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January 22, 2024 17 mins

On this episode of Our American Stories, Lowell Lytle has been one of the privileged few who has seen Titanic first-hand. Lowell has played the part of Captain Smith at Titanic events all over the globe and has been entertaining guests at the Titanic Museum for more than fifteen years. He is also the author of the inspiring read, Diving Into The Deep. Here’s Lowell Lytle to tell his story and the story of The Titanic’s Last Hero.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we continue with our American stories. More people have
ventured into outer space that have been to where the
Titanic rests two and a half miles down on the
ocean floor. Lowell Litel has been one of the privileged
few who has seen the Titanic firsthand. Lowell has played
the part of Captain Smith at Titanic events all over

(00:30):
the globe, and he has been entertaining guests at the
Titanic Museum for more than fifteen years. Here's Lowell Litel
to tell his story and the story of the Titanic's
last hero.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How do you do this? Is Lowel Litel.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have an unusual story to tell you. I was
home minding my own business way back in nineteen eighty seven.
I heard about the Titanic. They've discovered it, and when
do you know? I got a phone call from the

(01:15):
designer that was building an exhibit Orlando on the Titanic.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
He called me. He said, Lo, we've gone through three
hundred and fifty actors here in Orlando. Can't find a captain.
He said.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I told these men, I know someone that can play
that part. He's my next door neighbor. He used to
be a lead singer one of my rock and roll bands.
I had eight bands for twenty two years tour in
the United States and Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I went over there on a hoop just to
see what was all about.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And he opened the door and there was six men
sitting around the table and he said, gentlemen, here's captain.
They took one look at me and they said, yep,
you're it. I didn't know what the captain looked like.
But an hour later I went through that souvenir shop
and I saw the front page of the New York

(02:14):
Times nineteen twelve picture of Captain Smith looking right at me.
And my first thought was, my neighbor has taken my
picture and pasted it on the front page of the
New York Times.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
He shouldn't do that. That's wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, I was there for about two years and then
I heard they were going to dive to the Tynic
and I thought, oh, that would be nice if I
could do that. So I called him and they said no.
I waited two weeks and I called him again and
I said, I'd like to go down to the Titan again.

(02:51):
They said no, no, that's for archaeologists and important people,
wealthy people, people have climbed Mount Everest millionaires. I waited
two more weeks and I I you know, I remember
Winston Churchill made a famous speech during World War Two.

(03:13):
He said, we won't fight him in the air, we
won't fight him on lad we will fight him at sea,
but we will never surrender. I remember that he was
invited to speak at Harvard University after the war, and
the professor said that the students get your pads and

(03:34):
pens ready, cause when this man speaks, it's wisdom. They
flew him over from England. The old man hobble up
the microphone and he said, never give up. Never never, never,
never give up. And he turned around his sat down.

(03:55):
I never forgot that that was the best speech I
ever heard. I call him again and I said, I'm
the captain of the Titanic. I'm in front of the camera,
I'm in everyone's home. I'm the one that's talking about
your exhibit. I believe if the meeting could say this

(04:15):
man's been down to see this ship, more people would
be interested in what have to say about it, and
you'll get more people there, and you'll make more money.
It got quite on the other end the phone. Then
the man said, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Come along.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I actually packed up and I went to Saint John's, Newfoundland,
that's where you leave from. And I got there and
they looked at me and they said, you're too tall.
You won't fit in there. I said, I'll fit in
there now. I'm six foot four. I'm the tallest and
the oldest has ever been down to the tight Tanning.

(04:53):
I was sixty eight at the time. I said, I'll
fit in there. Well, we don't have a fire suit
big enough for you. Fire suit? What's this about a fire?
Whether you'll be breathing one hundred percent oxygen, it could
flash to a fire like Apollo one did. Well, if

(05:15):
that's the case, I'll be burnt to a crisp in
ten seconds. What good is a suit, they said, Well,
your name will be written on it. It's for identification, identification.
I'm that tall guy down there. Well, anyway, I got
into suit. That suit was a little too small, but

(05:37):
I did get in one. Now, when I and I
got on the Academy Keels that Russian dyed vessel, I
notice on the back end of one of those subs,
the protective shield that went around the propeller was held
together with duct tape.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now that doesn't breed a lot of confidence.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And I'm thinking to myself, do I really want to
do this? All I could think of is, well, I've
lived a long life. I'm sixty eight. If I die,
I know where I'm going. That's the important thing. And
if I come back, I'll have a story to tell.

(06:22):
And I came back, and I've been telling that story
for twenty one years all around the world. I told
it in Shanghai, China, for two weeks. I told it
in Singapore for two weeks. I did every state in
the United States, every providence in Canada where they've had
these Titanic exhibits, sometimes two or three times different cities.

(06:48):
One day, I was eating dinner. Now there's twice as
many people out there that would like to go down,
that would get a chance. So I knew I didn't
have any chance. But why I was eating that fellow
that I talked to on the phone came over to
me bent over and said to me, Lowell, you're going

(07:08):
down me in the morning.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And what a unique and original voice we're listening to.
And that is, of course the voice of Lowe Litel,
who plays the part and has been playing the part
of Captain Smith when we come back more of Lowelllidel's
story here on our American Stories. Folks, if you love

(07:32):
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(07:52):
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That's our American Stories dot Com. And we continue with
our American Stories and with Lowell Litel's story about being

(08:15):
one of the privileged few who's seen the Titanic first
tend and who also happens to play the part of
Captain Smith at Titanic events all over the globe. Let's
return to the Lowell Litel and his story.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh my goodness, my heart began to pound. I couldn't
believe it. They're going to let me go down to
the Titanic. Well, Fox Television followed me all around like
it was an astronaut. Now you, first of all, you
gotta take your shoes off, because in the event that
you pick up any oil from that mother ship walking

(08:52):
on the deck and breathing one hundred percent oxygen, it
could if there's a spark, that would be it. So
I took my shoes off. I got inside and in
my long legs. When you know, I kicked over the
oxy didn't tank. Boy, it didn't take long before that
Russian pilot came alive and straightened that thing out.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Now I got no place to sit.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm in a ball and six and a half eat
in diameter, nineteen inches thick, and there's three grown men
in there, and it takes two and a half hours
to get down two and a half miles to the
wreck side. They turn off all the lights to conserve

(09:41):
the batteries. Now they turned that hatch down tight, and
I knew then I couldn't change my mind. I can't
see anything. All I can do is think about what
I'm about to see. I'm not going to see a movie.
I'm going to see the real thing. And when they

(10:02):
turned on the lights, the Russian pott says, we're almost.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
There, and I didn't like what I saw.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We were going too fast and we bounce off the
ocean floor. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Course it
took five minutes for all that dust to settle down.
And the first thing that I noticed was the sea life.
It was so strange. There's no light that far down

(10:33):
on the ocean floor, no sun. So the crabs are white.
The starfish that thirteen inches in diameter five points, but none.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Of 'em any larger than their little finger. Now, when
they turned on the lights.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Moments later, I was right over the bow, the same
spot where Jack and the movie held out his arms
that I'm the King of the world.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Went right over that spot.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I said, take me to the captain's Captain James Cameron said,
the side was already gone. They took me there. I
was five feet from the captain's bath for ten minutes.
While they were changing film.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I found a wretch down there.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
The mouth on it was thirteen inches across, sticking straight
up in the ocean floor like somebody throwing the the javelin.
And I noticed while I was picking items up off
the ocean floor, there was a hat. It looked like
a Derby hat, and it was in mint condition. There's
no current that far down. And I told the Russian

(11:42):
pilot to go get that and he did. There's two
mechanical arms in the outside of that sub and he
picked it up and they'd pushed a button and a
basket went out from underneath, and he'd let go of
it to fall into the basket and it disappeared like
a cloud. The micro organisms they're eating up that ship

(12:03):
at such a tremendous rate, it's gonna be an orange
spot on the ocean floor within a hundred years now.
I think that hat was probably made out of felt.
Had it been made out of leather, it probably could
make it because those microorganisms that do not like the

(12:24):
tanning process of leather, it repels them their shoes and
hats and bags. That's why you see those things. Found
enough items that I thought to myself, I just gonna
stay focused on this and not not get involved emotionally.
But after an hour and a half, all I could

(12:47):
think of was what really took place at night? Fifteen
hundred souls slipped into eternity. All of them had plans
to get to New York, can start a new life.
It never happened. Life can be short, folks, make sure
you tell your loved one every day how much you

(13:08):
love them. And you better know where you're going, because
it's going to happen to every one of us. We're
all going to die at one time or another. When
it happens, it'll be too soon. Just remember this eternity
is a long time to be wrong. Get it right.

(13:30):
In fact, there's a story about a second class Passenger's
name is Reverend John Harper. There's a book entitled The
Titanic's Last Hero. It's about Reverend Harper, and he was
on his way to Chicago to preach. He had a
revival service before he left, and he told the people

(13:56):
in that service he said he was going to go
to New York on that new ship called the Titanic.
The next week, after the service, one of his parishioners
came up to him and said, Reverend, I have a
bad feeling about that ship. I am an ominous feeling
that something bad's going to take place. I feel so

(14:19):
strongly about it. I want you. I want you to
go to New York, but I don't want you to
get on the ship. Please take the Lusitania. I'll even
pay for your ticket.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Reverend Harper thought about it.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
He says, no, the Apostle Paul wouldn't run away from
danger if anything happens, said I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
And it happened.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
And when that Titanic started to go down, that Baptist
minister ran around the deck shouting women and children and
unsaved people get aboard the lifeboats.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You just can't keep these Baptists quiet.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
He even gave his life fest to a man that
was not a Christian. His daughter Anna was standing right
next to him, and the sister Law was standing next
to him. They both survived. The sister Law overheard the
reverend when he gave that life fest to that man.

(15:26):
He said, here, take this, I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I'm not going down. I'm going out.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
He's in the water now twenty eight degrees. It feels
like a thousand knives stebbing in.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And a man.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Drifted buying a piece of wood, and Reverend Harper shouted
to the man, how.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Are you saved? The man said no.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Reverend Harper shouted, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and
thou shalt be saved. The man drifted off into the dark,
and later the current drew him back and Reverend Harper
again shouted to the man, how are you saved?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
The man said, I can honestly say that I am.
Reverend Harper's last words were believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
and nought shall be saved. And with that the Reverend
slipped under the water and went to that frozen watery grave.
There were twelve people pulled from the water that night.

(16:33):
Six of them lived.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That man was one of them.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
And that story was told a few weeks later in Hamilton,
Ontario by that same man who said, I listened to
Reverend Harper's last message and became a believer in Jesus Christ.
With two miles of water beneath me, Titanic's last hero,

(17:00):
John Harper.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
God bless you, folks.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And what a piece is storytelling by Lowell Litel, not
only his story, not only his passion for the Titanic,
but telling the story of the Titanic's last hero as
well as perhaps only he can do. We haven't had
many better storytellers on this show and many better stories.

(17:25):
A special thanks to the Lowell Litel for sharing his story.
He has been entertaining guests at the Titanic Museum for
more than fifteen years. He is also the author of
the inspiring read Diving into the Deep. Lowell Litel's story,
the Story of the Titanic. Here on our American stories
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