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July 28, 2025 17 mins

On this episode of Our American Stories, Lowell Lytle was one of the few people who actually visited the Titanic’s wreck at the bottom of the North Atlantic. He also spent years bringing its story to life, portraying Captain Smith at Titanic museums around the world. While Lowell has since passed away, in this powerful story, he reflects on what it felt like to dive 2.5 miles below the surface—and why he believed the real legacy of the Titanic lies in the heroism shown on its final night.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we continue with our American stories. More people have
ventured into outer space that have been to wear The
Titanic rests two and a half miles down on the
ocean floor. Lowell Litel has been one of the privileged
few who has seen the Titanic firsthand. Lowell has played
the part of Captain Smith at Titanic events all over

(00:30):
the globe, and he has been entertaining guests at the
Titanic Museum for more than fifteen years. Here's Lowell Litel
to tell his story and the story of the Titanic's
last hero.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How do you do this? Is Lowel Litel.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have an unusual story to tell you. I was
homemining my own business way back in nineteen eighty seven.
I heard about the Titanic. They've discovered it, and when
do you know? I got a phone call from the

(01:15):
designer that was building an exhibit Orlando on the Titanic.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
He called me. He said, Lo, we've gone.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Through three hundred and fifty actors here in Orlando.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Can't find a captain. He said.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I told these men, I know someone that can play
that part. He's my next door neighbor. He used to
be a lead singer one of my rock and roll bands.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I had eight.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Bands for twenty two years tour in the United States
and Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I went over there on a hoo just to
see what was all about.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And he opened the door and there were six men
sitting around the table and he said, gentlemen, here's captain.
They took one look at me and they said, yep,
you're it. I didn't know what the captain looked like.
But an hour later I went through that souvenir shop
and I saw the front page of the New York

(02:14):
Times nineteen twelve picture of Captain Smith looking right at me.
And my first thought was, my neighbor has taken my
picture and pasted it on the front page of the
New York Times.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
He shouldn't do that. That's wrong. Well, I was there for.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
About two years and then I heard they were going
to dive to the Tynic and I thought, oh, that
would be nice if I could do that. So I
called him and they said no. I waited two weeks
and I called him again and I said, I'd like
to go down to the Titan again. They said no, no,

(02:52):
that's for archaeologists and important people, wealthy people, people have
climbed Mount Everest millionaires. I waited two more weeks and
I I you know, I remember Winston Churchill made a
famous speech during World War Two. He said, we won't

(03:14):
fight him in the air, we won't fight him on
lad we will fight him at sea, but we will
never surrender. I remember that he was invited to speak
at Harvard University after the war, and the professor said
that the students get your pads and pens ready, cause

(03:37):
when this man speaks, it's wisdom. They flew him over
from England. The old man hobble up the microphone and
he said, never give up. Never never, never, never give up.
And he turned around and sat down. I never forgot
that that was the best speech I ever heard. I

(04:01):
called him again and I said, I'm the captain of
the Titanic. I'm in front of the camera, I'm in
everyone's home. I'm the one that's talking about your exhibit.
I believe if the meeting could say this man's been
down to see this ship, more people would be interested
in what I have to say about it, and you'll

(04:21):
get more people there, and you'll make more money. It
got quite on the other end the phone. Then the
man said, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Come along.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I actually packed up and I went to Saint John's, Newfoundland,
that's where you leave from. And I got there and
they looked at me and they said, you're too tall.
You won't fit in there. I said, I'll fit in there.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm six foot four. I'm the tallest and the oldest
has ever been down to the tight Tanny. I was
sixty eight at the time. I said, I'll fit in there. Well,
we don't have a fire suit big enough for you.
Fire suit? What's this about a fire? Whether you'll be

(05:08):
breathing one hundred percent oxygen, it could flash to a
fire like Apollo one did. Well, if that's the case,
I'll be burnt to a crisp in ten seconds. What
good is a suit, they said, Well, your name will
be written on it. It's for identification, identification. I'm that

(05:29):
tall guy down there. Well, anyway, I got into the suit.
That suit was a little too small, but I did
get in one mm. Now, when I and I got
on the Academy kels that Russian dye vessel, I notice
on the back end of one of those subs the

(05:50):
protective shield that went around the propeller was held together
with duct tape. Now that doesn't breed a lot of confidence,
and I'm thinking to myself, I really want to do this.
All I can think of is, well, I've lived a
long life. I'm sixty eight. If I die, I know

(06:13):
where I'm going. That's the important thing. And if I
come back, I'll have a story to tell. And I
came back, and I've been telling that story for twenty
one years all around the world. I told it in Shanghai, China,
for two weeks. I told it in Singapore for two weeks.

(06:34):
I've been every state in the United States, every providence
in Canada where they've had these Titanic exhibits, sometimes two
or three times different cities. One day, I was eating dinner.
Now there's twice as many people out there that would

(06:54):
like to go down, that would get a chance, So
I knew I didn't have any chance.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
But while I was eating, that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Fellow that I talked to on the phone came over
to me, bent over and said to me, Lowell, you're
going down in the morning, And.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
What a unique and original voice we're listening to. And
that is, of course the voice of Loe Litel, who
plays the part and has been playing the part of
Captain Smith. When we come back more of Loweltel's story
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(07:34):
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(07:55):
these great American stories coming. And we continue with our
American Stories and with Lowell Litel's story about being one
of the privileged few who's seen the Titanic firsthand and

(08:19):
who also happens to play the part of Captain Smith
at Titanic events all over the globe. Let's return to
Lowell Litel and his story.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh my goodness, my heart began to pound. I couldn't
believe it. They're going to let me go down to
the titany well, Fox Television follow me all around like
it was an astronaut. Now you, first of all, you
gotta take your shoes off, because in the event that
you pick up any oil from that mother ship. Walking

(08:52):
on the deck and breathing one hundred percent oxygen, it could.
If there's a spark, that would be it. So I
took my shoes off, I got inside and in my
long legs. When you know, I kicked over the oxy
didn't tank. Boy, it didn't take long before that Russian
pilot came alive and straightened that thing out.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Now I got no place to sit.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm in a ball and six and a half eat
in diameter, nineteen inches thick, and there's three grown men
in there, and it takes two and a half hours
to get down two and a half miles to the
rex out. They turn off all the lights to conserve

(09:41):
the batteries. Now they turned that hatch down tight, and
I knew then I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Change my mind. I can't see anything.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
All I can do is think about what I'm about
to see. I'm not going to see a movie. I'm
going to see the real thing. And when they turned
on the lights, the Russian pott says, we're almost there.
And I didn't like what I saw. We were going

(10:13):
too fast and we bounce off the ocean floor. Oh
my goodness, Oh, my goodness. Course it took five minutes
for all that dust to settle down. And the first
thing that I noticed was the sea life.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It was so strange.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
There's no light that far down on the ocean floor,
no sun. So the crabs are white. The starfish that
thirteen inches in diameter five points, but none of'em any
larger than their the little finger. Now, when they had
turned on the lights moments later, I was right over

(10:54):
the bow, the same spot where Jack and the movie
held out his arms that I'm the King of the world.
Went right over that spot. I said, take me to
the captain's cabin. James Cameron said, the side was already gone.
They took me there. I was five feet from the
captain's bath for ten minutes. While they were changing film.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I found a wretch down there.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
The mouth on it was thirteen inches across, sticking straight
up in the ocean floor like somebody throwing the a javelin.
And I noticed while I was picking items up off
the ocean floor there was a hat. It looked like
a Derby hat and it was in mint condition. There's
no current that far down, and I told the Russian

(11:42):
pilot to go get that and he did. There's two
mechanical arms in the outside of that sub and he
picked it up and they pushed a button and a
basket went out from underneath, and he'd let go of
it to fall into the basket and it disappeared like
a cloud. The micro organisms they're eating up that ship

(12:03):
at such a tremendous rate, it's gonna be an orange
spot on the ocean floor within a hundred years now.
I think that hat was probably made out of felt.
Had it been made out of leather, it probably could
make it because those micro organisms that do not like

(12:23):
the tanning process of leather, it repels them their shoes
and hats and bags. That's why you see those things.
Found enough items that I thought to myself, I just
gonna stay focused on this and not not get involved emotionally.

(12:43):
But after an hour and a half, all I could
think of was what really took place at night? Fifteen
hundred souls slipped into eternity. All of them had plans
to get to New York, can start a new life.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
It never happened. Life can be short, folks.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Make sure you tell your loved one every day how
much you love them, and you better know where you're going,
because it's going to happen to every one of us.
We're all going to die at one time or another.
When it happens, it'll be too soon. Just remember this
eternity is.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
A long time to be wrong. Get it right.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
In fact, there's a story about a second class Passenger's
name is Reverend John Harper. There's a book entitled The
Titanic's Last Hero. It's about Reverend Harper, and he was
on his way to Chicago to preach. He had a
revival service before he left, and he told the people

(13:56):
in that service he said he was going to go
to New York on that new ship called the Titanic.
The next week, after the service, one of his parishioners
came up to him and said, Reverend, I have a
bad feeling about that ship. I am an ominous feeling
that something bad's going to take place. I feel so

(14:19):
strongly about it. I want you. I want you to
go to New York, but I don't want you to
get on the ship. Please take the Lusitania. I'll even
pay for your ticket. Reverend Harper thound about it. He says, no,

(14:39):
the Apostle Paul wouldn't run away from danger. If anything happens,
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
And it happened.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
And when that Titanic started to go down, that Baptist
minister ran around the deck shouting women and children and
unsaved people get aboard the lifeboats. You just can't keep
these Baptists quiet. He even gave his life fest to

(15:07):
a man that was not a Christian. His daughter Anna
was standing right next to him, and the sister Law
was standing next to him. They both survived. The sister
Law overheard the reverend when he gave that life fest
to that man. He said, here, take this, I don't

(15:28):
need it. I'm not going down. I'm going out. He's
in the water now twenty eight degrees. It feels like
a thousand knives stebbing in and a man drifted buying
a piece of wood, and Rever Harper shouted to the man.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
How are you saved? The man said no.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Reverend Harper shouted, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and
thou shalt be saved. The man drifted off into the dark,
and later the current drew him back, and Reverend Harper
again shouted to the man, how are you saved?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
The man said, I can honestly say that I am.
Reverend Harper's last words were believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
and nought shalt be saved. And with that the Reverend
slipped under the water and went to that frozen watery grave.
There were twelve people pulled from the water that night.

(16:33):
Six of them lived.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That man was one of them.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
And that story was told a few weeks later in Hamilton,
Ontario by that same man who said, I listened to
Reverend Harper's last message and became a believer in Jesus Christ.
With two miles of water beneath me, Titanic's last hero,

(17:00):
John Harper.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
God bless you, folks.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And what a piece is storytelling by Lowell Litel, not
only his story, not only his passion for the Titanic,
but telling the story of the Titanic's last hero as
well as perhaps only he can do. We haven't had
many better storytellers on this show, and many better stories.

(17:25):
A special thanks to Lowell Litel for sharing his story.
He has been entertaining guests at the Titanic Museum for
more than fifteen years. He is also the author of
the inspiring read Diving into the Deep. Lowell Litel's story,
the story of the Titanic. Here on our American stories.
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