Cynthia Bailey: I Didn't Know I Was Her

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
He chasing.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
It all.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm black like that, he sbout living.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's color easy.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
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about this? You go a tears medicine coming to you loud,
live and always. I'm forever in color from the Outlaws
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(00:57):
I love this woman because not only I'm a lover
of women. I love this woman because she's so beautiful.
And I'm I am a Libra and Libra's love beauty,
and we also love lots of things that I love.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We we love beauty first.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
But I want to let you know that I'm so
excited because this is my girl and she's here loud,
living in color with us here on the Outlaws podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Ladies, just got to put your hands together first. Cynthia Bailey.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Sat out, yes, all right. So when I ran it
to you at the the Truth Award, the Truth Ward
in La. I ran to you at the Truth of
the Wards in La and you were so voluptuous.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That you was on a weight loss journey.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
When I saw you, I was so and I kept
doing it and I and I want to tell you
I'm sorry because I love thick women. I love thick
I love was women because I see myself as that,
as a thick, voluptuous woman. And then I love I
saw and I'm used to seeing you skinny, like skinny.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
And when I saw how I was like, oh my god,
I feel that that girl felt that she's hippie like
she was.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It was I was like, oh, from a place of
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Like oh you know, and I hope that I didn't
make you feel bad because I think somebody tell me
it was like mas, you know, she real sensitivebout a way.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I was like, I was like, oh my god,
I'm sorry, like I was in admiration.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Mode because and honestly, Madison, I took it as a compliment,
like you were like, oh girl, you look guy.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yes you around, turn me around in a circle, coming
back around, because I'm not used to seeing you so plump, yes, vous, voluptuous, Yeah,
I like the word voluptuous, curvy and thick.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Think was the word which is? Which is a compliment?
It is And for me, I'm at a point in
my life I am. I am on a wellness journey, right, Okay,
So I do want to lose a little bit of weight.
I've always been, you know, just you know, the beginning
of my career was my modeling career. So I've always
been scanny basically, and that was for my work. However,

(03:22):
at this point in my life, i am fifty eight
years old. What, I'm on the other side of menopause.
What and everything has just stopped moving in a different way.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:31):
What fifty eight? Yes, I turned fifty eight this year.
I'm a Pisces on the cusp of a quarries and
pisces action. But anyway, okay, I know take.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
It all in, I had all it what, Yes, very
proudly so I'm yes, yes, yeah, I'm amazing.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I'm on this on the cusp of Scorpio.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh okay, my daughter's a scorpio October twenty second, okay,
Noel's November nine.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh, yes, she's a corpio. Scorpio yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yes, on water definitely. But anyway, you don't have to apologize.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Okay, Well, I just because you don't owe me an
apology I received as a compliment. I was just I'm
in a space of just being my best, best, healthiest
way right now, and for me, I know that I'm
not the size that I want.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
To be right now.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
So I just kept laughing because I was like, if
t is company woman, I'd be like, yeah, good.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Girl. It was because you know what I'm saying. Here's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think what what tends to happen with with black women?
You know, and and and you know what a black
woman should be in today's society, Like everybody wants a
black woman to be, you know, like or they everybody
want this, everybody on this fitness thing and not saying
that everybody, Oh I want to be skinny.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I wanted this.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I'm from the girl growing up looking at black women
when they was thick to the boss.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know what I'm saying. I'm from from Miami.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I know, I'm from a band. I know exactly the woman.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
And I see that it's outside and then you sit
on a woman who you've watched on TV and you've
watched be you know, slim, and then when you see
it's like, oh ship, you know, and and and like
I don't have a sexual attraction to women, but I
can respect beauty and body when I see it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And when I see it, I was like, whoa, yes,
because that's as.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Growing up being a boy looking at women.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
And and and you're saying like she when I get
me some here right right, I'm I'm dad too.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So to see that it was you you look amazing, amazing,
and so me looking at it, I.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Just was because I'm so used to yeah, no, no, no, baby, apologize,
okay apologizing you know that was a genuine genuinely as
a compliment. But I'm just in this space.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I have a I'm working with weight watchers to just
get control of my weight, to just have a different
conversation with food, which is like, you know, just be
mindful because I, like I said, everything just stopped moving
after I went through menopause. So with that said, I
just wanted to be the way a healthy weight that
I wanted to be. And it was never about being skinny,

(06:12):
like I'm like I said, I'm fifty eight, like I
have been skinny my whole life.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm not trying to get that. I don't even think
my body wants that at this point. I just, you know,
gut health. I just wanted to kind of make sure
I'm think and fine and hell are yes.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So I'm I'm not a biological woman. I'm a transgender woman.
So talk to me about menopause. I'd like to talk
about that.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh my goodness. Okay, So menopause it's like three parts.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
It's pre menopause and then you're actually going through menopause,
and then it's the other side, which is postmenopause. So
it varies in age in terms of when you can
start menopause. You can start menopause pre menopause in your
thirties forties, it really doesn't matter. I started, I would
say maybe in my late forties, almost fifty. That's when

(07:00):
I started going through menopause. When my periods, your periods
eventually stop happening. But like I remember, like I would
get one and then it would I would not get
a period for like three months and be like, okay,
I'm in it's it's it's over, like it's done. And
then I would it would come back, and I'd be like, Okay,
so basically your periods stop eventually, which is great, so

(07:22):
that you ain't missing them. With that, You're very lucky
to do with that, okay, because those periods definitely, you know,
wear us out. So with that said, and then I
also I think for the most part for me, I
didn't really go through the hot flashes and all that stuff,
so you know, not missing that either. It's like, you know,
a lot of women are very uncomfortable. A lot of

(07:44):
women gain weight regardless of what they're doing. They could
be exercising, watching their diet, but your body just kind
of like stops, like it just stops.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
How do I put it? Things just stop moving the
way it used to.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Like if you used to be able to eat burger
and fries, now you just eat the burger, no fries,
and you're still going to gain the same weight.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It just it just becomes the body different body.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
It makes you retain it.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Makes you retain water. I definitely retain water. All of
the things like just not feel good. You know, you
don't sleep well. You know a lot of people go
back and forth with that. I would say the biggest
thing for me was I didn't deal with the sleep
issues that much, nor the hot flashes, but it was
just the you know, my body just started changing.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So this is pre or post.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Or between really really in between and then on the
other side post as well.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So so what happens posts menopause.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well then you're like, then you have your new body
that you didn't have before. And it could be you know,
for me, it's very individual, you know, for women. But
for me, all of a sudden, you know, I could,
you know, exercise not exercise. It just every thing just
started being a little harder to manage. And you know,
I'm in you know, with my career, I have to

(09:06):
stay on top. Yeah, you know, it wears out.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
We gave the way, you know, stomach whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, I'm.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Definitely up on my gut health issues because for some reason,
I'm at that age where everything just kind of goes
to my misssection. Then I'm like, I mean, I'm too
old to get pregnant child, but still, you know, I'll
be on the celebrity.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Baby bump list.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
It just don't look good because I feel like I
love my butt, I love my breast, I love my body.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I love the thickness of my body. I just want
my stomach to be flat.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So you haven't, so I'm glad that you with weight Watchers.
Yes you haven't done the GLP.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well you know, well okay, so here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
You know, Watchers has been around for a long time,
and now what they do is you go through the program,
which is really like a points program where you just
basically you your list of foods that you can eat it,
you know how many points they are, and you just
kind of stay within that system.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Usually, like for me, it was like thirty three.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
All right, So anyway, but once you get to that,
but you just got to stay within that point system,
all right, and then you know you will you will
see that. You know, you gotta do your water, you
gotta do all the things, and of course working out
is always.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Helpful, all right.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
So anyway, but once you get to that and you
start eating the way you're supposed to be eating and
stay within your point system, what happened with me. I
started to just kind of like plateau. Nothing was really moved.
It was like, okay, all right. So now the new
weight Watchers they do have the clinical part that they offer,
which is the semi glue tie.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So you can do it little so you can do it.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, but you got to go through all their team
and they have to like, you know, make you know,
check all your blood pressure, cholesterol, like all the things,
and prescribe the doses that they feel like is right
for you.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So the joint weight watch joint wait.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Watch was definitely. But I don't know you've done these
semigle tis right, I've done a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Okay, I tell you, well, I'm a little bit because
I can't stay. It's like, okay, So because I was
going to ask you how you felt on them, well,
I'm telling you if you if you cause I take
hormones too, yes, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
So it also affects the way my weight refluctuating and
ship and sometimes I'd be like, oh my god, like
why am I so fucking fat? And then it's like
I can't get little And then and then then I
noticed sometimes like like there was a time.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
That he was making me.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Get on the treadmill. You know, it's nobody training and
all this stuff. This time he trains too, Okay, so
he was making me get on that ten minutes a day,
get on the walk the treadmill, ten minutes a day, okay,
walk ten minutes a day walk.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I didn't notice in a week there was a little something.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Okay, okay? And how did you feel though? How did
you feel?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I wanted to eat? What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Eight?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
So it it's just like, but you look like you've
lost You've lost a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I haven't seen you in a while, to be honest,
until we saw each other in l A and then
we were on a flight together, and then we were
at the Trysts yeah hotel, hotel opening in Mexico together.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
But the geo them damn semi glue tie ship girl.
It's funny because it's like I'm like that, am I home?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Grey? Did I eat?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Right right? Like it's my stomach heart right right right,
I'm crapping right here, like oh, you know, it's where
you got to make sure you take the right dosage.
Number one. My doctor started me with the zero point
two five. When I think zero, that's low, that's little,
yeah saying you know he started me. That was happening

(12:48):
with that dosage For me, I had to up it
a little bit. Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
For some reason, and I'm probably on my what am
I like on my second month of it. Now, that's
something about my mood or something. I feel like it
kind of like there's something about the mood part of it,
the mental part of.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It, because it does to your brain to where it
makes you.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
What tells you you're not hungry? I guess, and you shouldn't.
Well maybe it shouldn't eat it.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Maybe then it tells me I'm not huggy. But it
tells me that the other age?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
What what's the other age?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It makes?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I'm like, I ate nothing.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Ship, I could get into somethings. Ship, I ain't nothing.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I said that on the symptoms. I hate nothing.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I could get into some with my phoney.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
But anyway, you look amazing. Thank you, sister.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You listen you do too, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm doing a little sum I'm trying trying to lose more.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I want to lose about fifty pounds.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
You won't lose fifty, Okay, about fifty fifty. But listen,
I used to be a little body.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I used to be a ronie. I used to lit
you did. I used to be this is not just
a lieutendant ron I used to be a little tend on.
That thing was a little bit it was. It was
a little more. I had a little bit more awful.
I had to move no stomach out the wet. I
had a little bit more awful.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
You can see, I see, you can see what's going on.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
But I could see that motherfucking but I had a
little bit more, a little bit more awful.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
All right, Well, you know we can talk. We can
talk if you want to do. Just would love you.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I think he would be great to report what you
think they would, you know absolutely. I mean I can't
speak for him, but I'm just saying I think.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I would that would really because it's different because like
for me, you know, someone would look at me and
be like, oh, you don't need to lose no weight.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
But it's like, this is my body. I know the
weight that I want to be. I know, like you
can't tell me the healthy body that I want to
live in every day. Yeah, so you are you know,
you have your weight loss goals. You know your friend
over here he may feel like he may lose some weight.
So it's like very individual. It's all about what you want.
You don't have to be, you know, a certain size

(15:12):
to decide the weight that you would like to know
and get a management you know, they're all about like
helping you manage your weight because it's hard to man.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I got enough stuff to manage. I gotta menagerement way too,
And I never really had to do that before because
it's like a lot your brain is telling you, like man.
And then the way that my work schedule is we
be all over the place absolutely and like I'm like,
I want to eat. I'm gonna pizza.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well see, here's the other thing too, with our travel,
because I know you travel all the time, because like
I said, I done ran unto you on a few points.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
At this point, when you're hungry, if you don't have
a lot of options, you're at the mercy of like
what's in the airport, And once you get hungry, you
just want to eat something.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
And then when you land that's what it's. Late flights.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
You get in the city and it's just like, girl,
I ain't had none to eat off day, and for
some reason I get.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Hungry at night. That's what it kick in for me.
I get in that hotel, turn the TV and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Girl, what's open? What's over each? He got none around here?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
So that's where I'm at with I would really love it.
And you have something else I do, I do. I
brought you a bottle of myne wonderful tequila. Commissario. This
is the blanco. We do have the other flavors as well,
and I'm so excited to be a partner and a
shareholder with this company.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
What is it tequila, commissaria, commissario.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yes, it's period.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Oh, it's everything. It's very smooth and it is delicious.
I'm a tequila girl. I really am, like I don't
really drink a lot, but if I'm gonna drink, I
want to go and get onto.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Okay, yes, kill a story.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Do you hear me say tequila? Yes, I fussed the
stuff up Aquila. I get the fighting and all kinds
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Listen that ship don't make it to a fight and
sometimes both sometime bo okay, but I like it.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So so it's you say it's very smooth. I see,
it's just one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
This is blanco. This is the blanco. Yes, okay, you
know I put my glass.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Look at us, one hundred percent gave blanco. Yes, Yes,
I'm going to receive this. Yes, and we're gonna take
with this, I'm going to receive this, and I'm only
gonna pull a little bit. What do you chase your
tequila with?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
You know what? At this point, I don't really need
a chance.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
No, no, you know, I may do lemon and salt,
but that's really it because I can almost drink it
straight too. Now because going back, I'm not I don't
want to make this whole thing about weight. But actually
alcohol was one of the things because I like the cocktail.
The sweet alcohols, those are not my friend. They have
a lot of sugar.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
So I had to like start, if I was going
to have a drink, I have to do it straight. Yes,
all the margaritas, love the margaerite, lemon drops, all of them,
four of sugar.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Right, your train is over there saying those are the points.
You eat up all your points, well, literally, drink up
all your points on your drinks.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
How many cocktails a day do you have?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't have any. Okay, well, okay unless we're social gatherers.
Well how social art will very Oh my god, yeah,
it's the drinks.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
The drinks was the drinks were making me gain more
weight than even just even eating.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
So but anyway, just go and drink it straight, child.
Women is gonna be able to help me. I think
so I do.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Everybody has their own weight loss story, they really do.
And I think you would be a great representation.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I would love please have them talk to me. Watch
you hear she said, come on down here to the
place and get myself.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And that's you know what. That's so funny when people
say that. But when I tell you, it's real though,
because when I tell you, my back is is definitely
a bigger back, and I'm like the game.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Than normally, the bigger back than you're normally.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Definitely, I'm definitely big backed. My back is definitely bigger.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
You you do know that men like bags.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh I haven't had any complaints.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh I know you don't. I know you don't.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I'm over here looking at chocolate. I'm over here looking
at this delicious. He's kiss over here, Thank you and so.
But when we're in this area, what's going on in
your love life?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
My love life? Well, I am dating.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
I'm in a relationship, actually, yes, a age gap relationship.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Eighteen years younger. He is almost forty.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, listen, he's over thirty.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
He's over there. Praise praise.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
He is European. He lives in Amsterdam. He actually just
left going back to Amsterdam today for a wedding, this
friend's wedding. I wasn't able to go because I'm working.
I like long distance relationships, but this is challenging because
it's like the time difference and stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Because here's the thing. He's a musician.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
By the way, his name is Le Prince. We're not
on social media together, and that was very intentional. You
asked me why I was intentional.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You saw about eyes like girl, what what? Well?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
We made that specific choice because I just personally don't
feel like social media is a.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Positive space for celebrity relationship.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
This is not they wear us out.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
And listen the moment you post your man h, you
posh your girlss, you know, it becomes relationship goals and
see people be down in the conversa relationship didn't be
down there in boxing. You know you're looking at his
inbox that all you see is pushing lists every well,
there you are you he trying to you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
He looked at your.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Inbusses and say, hey, I've been waring you for a
long time. You see digging it's like, girl, what in
the fuck? Like I thought, y'all just set relationship goals.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
But here's the thing it Scott, It works both ways though,
because if you if I feel like, if we're going
to put our relationship out there, we do open up
the door for people to comment. So that's why we decided,
you know, we're just not gonna put it out there now.
We also we're outside in real life.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
We do our thing, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
He goes to you know, events with me, premieres, you know,
you know, all the things that I do, and I
like it. We've been together for almost a year and
a half and it's.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's been great. The distance is the only thing that's
it's it's hard because I can't work over there. I
ain't got no work in answer today, no, So.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
He can work a little bit here, but he's mostly
known from you know, for over there, so most of
his work work is over there, So he comes back
and forth a lot more than I'm able to.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I go, you know, during the holidays and stuff like that.
When I'm all.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So, you know, I'm going to ask the question because
I shi sister, you can answer that your own discretion.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Okay, But it's just because I love a disclaimer.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I know, answer your discretion. Okay, So long distance relationship
is it?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Is? It? Is it? Not you?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'm just just because I don't want it. I don't
want to get you in trouble. Long distant relationship. Does
that still leave a door open for friends?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Not for me and not for him? Like we're we're
exclusive with each other, And.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
What makes exclusivity happen? Like, at what point do you
get exclusive with a person? I mean, some moodies cause something.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, well, get ready to talk.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
At what point do you have exclusivity like with a
person now, especially being a star?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Okay, all right, So for me personally, I can't speak
for everyone, but for me, it's just getting to know
each other and getting and you know, and building a trust,
building trust with each other, consistency, just being very intentional,
you know. I mean I I can't be in a
relationship with you if you don't want to be in
a relationship with me. So it has to be you know,

(23:08):
it has to be mutual, and we both have to
you know, not want to see anyone else. Basically, my
schedule is crazy, like I barely even have time for
a relationship if I can be honest, and that's probably
one of the issues that we kind of have is
that I don't really have a lot of time too

(23:28):
to go to Europe and you know, hang out works
for me.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Are you in a relationship? Are you single?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm everything.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
That explained.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm in a relationship. I'm single, I'm dating, I'm married.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I love you, relationship, you're married. Yes, anything that is needed.
You're all the things. You're literally all the things you
gotta be.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Well, here's why, here's whey, here's where I am now
at forty eight. Okay, and maybe when I'm in ten years,
when I'm fifty eight, I might be in a different place.
But where I am right now, if forty eight is
I'm well, I'm a lib so I'm always gonna match energy.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm an energy match Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I love so It's like, you know, if I get
me the guy and you know we're kicking it and
stuff like that, I'm gonna say, hey, my phone's ringing.
You know what that means, Bring me in the house
because I'm outside. But you got to bring me in
the house because I'm outside, nigga, because if you outside,

(24:39):
I'm my motherfucker' about the motherfucker dog. I'm like you outside,
but then when I'm inside, I'm letting all my I'm
letting everybody at the door open the window and say.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Hey, I'm in the house right now.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Now, if this nigga hits me, I'm coming big outside,
back outside.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Wait, wait, So would you ever get marri Have you
ever been married before? What do you think about marriage?
Because I've been married a divorce twice.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
And we're gonna talk a little bit just to just
because I don't want to get in there.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
You have I thank you.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, I would get married, but he has to understand
he got to keep me in the house. But how
does someone keep you in the house by not going outside?
Because it does have to work, you, I mean you,
I feel like you will meet so many people just.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
At work all the things.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Oh I meet that all the time. But if I'm
with a man, I'm in the house until I find
out he outside. When he outside, I'm out the door
and I ain't making no secret of it.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Okay, let's just assume that he's not going to be outside.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm going to open the window telling on me inside,
and if he hit me, I'm on the way out,
So y'all stay close to the water.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Basically, what I'm saying is I'm not gonna say I'm
not and I and here's the thing with with with
wh with some women.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
But I look, I think that it's the center like
women sometimes make men the center of their lives.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yes, yes, because that's.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
What women are bred to do. Women we were taught
taught to Women are taught to be mothers and wine. Correct,
you can have your career, you can have this and whatever,
but come home and be a wife and a mother.
Niggas be outside, right, they be out the door. Women

(26:37):
and the wife and the mother. The wife and the
mother is home that she's doing. The mother and the
wife do this, and the niggas outside or then the
phone rang because somebody else otside.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Right, Well, times have changed to.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Gray your man outside right while you in the house
bacon and frying. I don't want to be that woman,
you know, because I'm not a competitive I ain't come again.
I'm gonna say this out loud for us for a
nigga can hear me. I'm not I'm not compete with
ship right, you get the acting up. I'm acting up too.
I'm not compete because we the sign.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
You're gonna master the energy we meet the motherfucker you
outside myself, I'm not a dog, and.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I ain't realized that I'm outside. Let you know, I'm
at the dog. I'm gonna take a picture and show
you on outside. I ain't gonna sneak around. I ain't
gonna do none of that.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
And it always hits different when the woman decided to
go outside. It's different then, and then everybody wants trying
to make it side.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I want to come in the house.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I might stay out of the dog, right you you
don't open them. I told the people to stay about
the wind. I'm having a good time exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
I here bacon ship. I had to learn how to
bake a cake. Yeah, because when you met me, I
was already outside. I don't came here bacony cake, scrambling eggs,
frying chicken, changeing pamples.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
No, oh, you got clean, too clean enough?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Va?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
No, I'm about an equal player.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Well, I will say that after two marriages and two divorces,
I definitely I'm very much in my me like my
me moment era, saw Girl era, Happy Girl era, Take
my Peace era, Uh, let's be fair era you I
make my own money era, But I always have been

(28:32):
in that era.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
But yeah, you can put some on it as well,
like all of those things. So I actually, you know.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
It's not really when you break it down like that,
it's not really the whole marriage thing. Like I feel
like it needs to be updated.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
The rules?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
What what what? What?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
What?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
What do we need to add to it?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Well?

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I feel like if I got to cook and clean,
then my husband should have to cook and clean. I
don't think that should be solely just a wifely duty.
I think that should be a partner ship. I think
I cooked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and you cook Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Then we can both cook on Sunday, but we can
go out thereat on Sunday. We both got to clean,
we got to wash clothes like all of that. A

(29:12):
marriage should be a partnership. But when you rid, and
with the money too.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But when you rid.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
The maid of the housekeeper, but whatever, the chef is
gonna be in that cooking with me, right, Well, yeah,
don't be in the cooking.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You come on. I don't end like you got money
to nine don't.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Do this, okay, all right, so that's what it is.
That okay, that was love of one. Okay. As we
can get.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Money and and drivers and all those days, well then
somebody you don't have to do it yourself, but somebody
got paid for it, right, So that's still where the
partnership comes in.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's still you know, we have a driver, we have
a cook, we have a housekeeper.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Because I need them to be doing it so I
can enjoy you. Yeah, I can enjoy you.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I can go watch TV. Yeah, whole hand, go to
the beach and go in the in the in the
at the picnic, and.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
The maid of the house key whatever it is, whatever
we want to call them, and open the basket.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
And then you have so much more of you to
give your partner because we work hard and I know.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
You were, yes, but since this is how this is
how I see life for me, because I see life
for us as people in the public and stars and ship.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I don't got time to do all that, Like you
really don't have time, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Nigga, I ain't got time. And I love my mama.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes, when I come you you met her when I
just come outside, uh Cynthia from working.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
If anybody gonna keep me grounded on this earth, it's
gonna be that lady.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yes, I come home, boot go over there and get
this and move them. That's my mama. I'm like, my
but I just got home.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
God damn, I just walked in the dome, Mama.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
My mom just saying way. My mom would call me
and be like, hey, what you what you? What you
doing today? I was like working doing me? You know
I'm working.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
She's like, oh, okay, I didn't know you was. I
thought maybe it was off today, been off since I
was sixteen.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Years to take me to the stove. Let's go, don't.
I'm gonna have somebody to come over here and pick
that up or bring that your to your She don't
like that, Yeah, she don't like that.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
She don't like it. My head turned TV.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, she don't like that.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
But wait, what's what's your Okay? So how do you decompress?
How does someone like you decompressed? What's your favorite way
to decompressed? Do you like massages and stuff?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, think like what kind of massage?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I like? Medicine was relaxing massage. Do I like that
kind of massage you know, your.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Feet like I love having my feet eat massage. I
had massage mother, Listen, you.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
See I had but my my, my unwine is I
like movies?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Me too, Me too.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I like nostalgia, like old movies. Yes, I like.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Cartoon I like all that, like like you like documentaries
true crime.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Now, I do like to watch how if I have
to kill that?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
If I have to kill thatigg I got I got
to figure out how I will cover about it.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh my god, I gotta figure out how.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes, so I do like you. It's not going out.
It's gonna gets good.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
You feel comfortable though, you feel very comfortable because listen,
I don't want to boy brush you with that stuff people, because.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
You'll tell me what you wants to other stuff all
the time.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
No, I love this, yeah, because I don't get Listen,
we care about that stuff, Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
We do, but it's just like we're saying, we.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Know you was friends with Nini, we know the ship
going on the show, we know about these other people.
I don't give I don't really give a fuck about
that stuff because you're a human being, and I think
what tends to happen with people is that they forget
that we are human beings. And that ship you see
on TV or that shit you girl, we're getting paid
to do this job. You know, I don't like her.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
She may like me.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I don't really give a fuck. I'll clock you in
and I leave that ship. The only downside to that
is when you get into a relationship, when your personal
life starts coming into this, that's the downside to that.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's because then it becomes.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Because now you're going home from work and your work
is then you're still dealing with and that you gotta explain.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
You got to explain while you in the house baking
and frying. You gotta explain why, nigguy side.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Now you have to.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
That's why I don't do that shit, because I'm not
finna explain to no motherfucking body.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Why this nigga outside?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Bit?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know why he outside? Here a nigga, that's why
he outside. You know this, why he outside.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
No matter how big of a star you are, how
much money you make, whatever, you still face human problems.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
And if you marry somebody, if you date someone, if
you're talking and they don't respect your star, You're gonna
be subjected to that shit. So being that we both
know that, how.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Do you maneuver through that type of stuff?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Oh? Wow? You know I.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Put myself first, and you know it's easy to say that,
but I really honestly do at this point in my life, like,
I'm very much an energy person. If it don't feel right,
I just don't be around nobody.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I don't want to be around. Now.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
If I'm getting paid to be around it, that's a
whole another store. Now, I can work with anybody.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
The energy is what it is.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
But I'm not in my own free time making a
choice to be around anyone. Oh, I don't want to
be around I don't like you. You'll really care for me?
The energies all you know, you're you know, I love
being around. Everything I try to do comes from a
space of love. I like being around positive people. I

(35:35):
like being around successful people. I like being around people
that are in good spirits most of the time. I
know everybody walking around here doing the walk, But I'm
just saying, for the most part, I can't do a
lot of negativity.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's too much, that takes me too fast.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
If you are just negative all the time, Like I
don't thrive in those situations. So boundaries are very important.
I understand the value and said, nope, no, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Be an make it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
People don't understand I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I'm not gonna be. And it's not even that I
can't go. I don't feel like I don't want to.
I want to sit on my couch and watch Netflix tonight.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's what I want, is a complete sentence.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, I no longer people please. I used to
be a huge people pleaser, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Take me a leave.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
What changed?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I got older, life, changed relationships.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Just looking back on my life and I was like,
you know what, I have to put myself first, and
it's okay to say that out loud, like I am
is only as good as I am and I'm just
doing the best that I can do. So if there's
any one around me who is making my life difficult,
my life unhappy, my life unpeaceful, you.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Just do I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I gotta go.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
I just don't want to do that anymore, I honestly,
but rather you know how to the old say you
do bad all by yourself and be around a bunch
of people who are not pouring into me, you know,
because I'm I'm a giver, I'm a I'm a helper.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm very resolution oriented.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
If you got a problem, as soon as you say,
oh it is that, okay, I'm already like, okay, how
are we gonna fix it? Okay, so you know, let
me call this person. Okay, you know what, you should
call that person. Let me let me do this, let
me let me go with you over here to talk
to this person, like I'm that person. So if you're
not trying to get to the other side of like
going back to the happy place, like because I don't
want to be stuck over here too long, Like Okay,
you got two days to be saying, Okay, your man

(37:26):
left you, you wanna left you, whatever, Okay, sit it
two days and then call me when you want to
get out of it, because I want to. I want
to be the girl to say, hey, let me, you know,
come over, come over the lake, Bailey, Let's go have
a drink, let me take you to dinner, let me
treat you to a massage, Let's.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Do a vitamin IV drip, whatever, whatever's gonna get let's go.
Let's go out. It's something that door and go outside.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Now, cynthy hell, you ever been a fighter?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
A fighter in what way? Like a physical child? I
have one fight in my life, and after that I
knew I was not cut out. Fight I remember, and
it was a horrible story. I can't even believe that
I'm even saying this right now. But I was in
I think middle school, and I still remember her name,
but I will not say it because no power.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
I have no power. I remember it was in middle school.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Maybe, yeah, I think it was at least Okay, I'm
just gonna say middle school. I can't remember, and I
feel so bad because I didn't know like what bullying was,
you know. I just wanted to like be with the
cool kids. And a lot of cool kids are mean kids.
Basically they're popular and they're mean. And this one girl,
she was not in the in the cool kids crowd,

(38:36):
and somebody dared me to, like, you know, pick with
her or whatever. And I just remember walking into the
classroom and I forgot to bring my pencil.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, this is how old I am, man, I've got
to bring my pencil, and she has her pencil on
her desk, and I just walked to her up to
her desk, and I just like, she I think she
may have been right, And I just took out her
hand and went and sat down and was like, you know,
I thought I was all cutter, but I was laughing,
like I was like, I was like, look at me
taking her pencil for And then somebody said that she

(39:08):
was mad about it, and then they were like, well,
y'all need to beat in the girl's bathroom and work
it out. So I was like okay. So then everybody
and I didn't even know.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
At that point, then it just moved everything really fast
because I was like, okay, I took the pencil. That
was all I really felt comfortable doing that. I actually
felt bad about it, to be honest, I really want
to look keep giving back.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
When nobody because you didn't want to do that. Now
I got the damn pencil. I got to like stand
in and now I'm like I'm already there. Every think
I'm cool because I did this.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
So anyway, somehow it gets to the point that after
lunch that apparently which I didn't know, we were gonna
be fighting in the girl's bathroom, Can I just get
a pencil back?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I decided up to.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Listen. It just went too far.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
So anyway, So now I got to show up. Everybody's
in the girl's bathroom waiting to me. I walk in
there and I'm like, please.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Don't let this girl show up. Girl. You know, she
showed up like you have one job, do not I
show up? So she show up and literally just came
right up to me and just started wearing me out.
I don't even know when I.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Was supposed to start.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I
don't even know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
We can just take each other on site.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
When I said, she had me hammed up under the toilet,
just wearing me out. That was the only that was.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And I listened and.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I decided, Actually, I was like, you know what, forget
these cool kids. I'm gonna be a good person, Like
I just can't be like that. You say, I get no,
I ain't getting nothing.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
No.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
It was horrible. Have you ever been to fans of
the worst thing you.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Lose for so long? Girl, I can show you scars
and listen, I get it on the floor to dates
it's that.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Ain't bet for it. I choose peace.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I choose peace, but I will if I got to.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Use good to yellow weapon, that's one of the trade.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That is not a web. Once done, I'll get active
in this month. When did you know that you were who?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
You were?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Beautiful?

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Uh? Oh wow? No one surpressed me that. When did
I know I was beautiful?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I was never told.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
I never even heard the word beautiful as it was
to describe me until I moved to New York City
to start my modeling career. Like I never heard at school,
never heard around my family. No one's like, oh my god,
you're so beautiful, Like, just.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Never heard that. I don't even know if I heard
that I was cute.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Actually, before I started modeling, I was like tall, lanky,
the high cheek bones.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
But I was like, you know, models have a kind
of specific kind of beauty. Like I always thought like, like,
you know, the girls on like I was a children
and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Too, but like the little short, cute girls, I was like,
they're like the ones that all the boys like. Nobody
was like checking for me like that. So anyway, so
I moved to I ended up being in the one
and Only beauty pageant. I was actually, okay, let me
take you back a second. So I was homecoming queen
in my high school. And I was the first Black

(42:10):
African American homecoming queen of my school, which was awesome
because like my court was you know, I had my
beautiful court and I was the queen, so that was
that was amazing. So anyway, so what happened with me
being homecoming queen. I was invited to be a invited
to be a part of a homecoming queen pageant actually
right here in Atlanta, Okay, so I'm a part of

(42:32):
the pageant. Never been in a pageant. I think I'd
recited I think my talent. I didn't really have any talent,
so I think I recited Mark Doctor Martin Luther King's
I have a Dream speech because I had it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I had a talent, but I had a dream. Please
know that I always had a dream, so that that
speech always resonated with me.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So I did.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
That didn't end up winning anything, didn't place or anything
like that. I thought, damn, I can't even get miskage aali.
I thought I was cool with everybody whatever. Anyway, so
I didn't win, but I kind of won because one
of the judges was a model scout from Wilhelmina Models
in New York City.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
So after the pageant was over, she was the I
was the only.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Person that she approached and she wanted you know, she
basically offered me a modeling contract in New York to,
you know, with Wilhelmina Models.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And that's how your career, that's how it started. So
I went home and I was like, okay, whatever.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
You know, I'm already like thinking about college and you
know what I'm gonna do after high school. And it
just kept being in the back of my head. I
was like, wow, lady thought I can model. You know,
I never really looked at myself like a model. So anyway,
I ended up going to New York. The lady calls
me and this is for a cell Phone's girl like
literally called phone Cynthia. I'm laid in New York is

(43:47):
the oldest funk because I gave him my phone number,
and she's like, I really think you should come to
New York. Wilhelmina is very interested in you. Blah blah
blah blah. So when I went to New York City,
I can fits my parents to let me go. I
went to New York City to test to do a
test shoot, which is basically just take some photos with
you know, a New York photographer. So I went, and

(44:07):
of course I was like, oh, I think I was
gonna be all made up. You know, I didn't know
what a model was, girl I had.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
They basically stripped me down, no wigs, hear.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Anything, and just put like a little struggle bun like,
just as natural as possible. So of course I thought,
coming from the South, we didn't even go to the
grocery store without fixing ourselves up a little bit. So
I was like, okay, well this is gonna be a mess.
And they loved the photos and I thought I looked crazy,
but anyway, and they just kept going, oh my god,
you're so beautiful, You're so stunny.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
And I was like, the people didn't know. I'd never
heard that before.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
So to answer your question, when I started modeling, and
then I heard it, you know, a lot after that,
But that was the first.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
What was what was the first? What was the biggest modeling?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
The cover of Essence, the cover of Essence magazine twice. Actually, wow, yeah,
that was it. And that was like amazing because I
didn't really you know, we didn't have fashion magazines. But
every now and then you know, we didn't have it
like in my house or whatever. We didn't have my
mom didn't rebogue and stuff chats at work, like it
just wasn't that kind of life. But every now and

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then I would get a hold to an Essence or
an Ebony and be like, oh my god, and those women.
I would look at that magazine and be like, these
women just were so beautiful and they seemed so confident
and strong and nice and happy. And I just didn't
even know how I could represent that because I didn't
even know who I was. I was like eighteen years old,

(45:34):
so I was just but I would just look at
them and it just seemed like so such a reach
to be in a magazine. I was like, wow, Okay,
So anyway, so I ended up going on a casting
for Essence and it was like for a beauty spread,
and I ended up I walk in and I've never
seen more beautiful women in my life, Like all these

(45:55):
models there their portfolios, and I walk in. I'm like, gosh, shit,
I ain't gonna get this like these I've never even
seen girls like this before. And I go in and
I meet with the beauty editor and at the time,
the makeup artist was Reggie Wells, May you rest in peace.
He did OPRAH for a long time for many many years,

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and he used to call everybody Mary.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
And I didn't know. I didn't know what yeah, because
I used murder like hey, hey, Mary, come in Mary.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
So I walk in and it's my turn to go
show my you know, my book, and I'm talking to
uh the beauty editor who was Mickey Taylor at the time.
She was there for many many years as the beauty editor.
And Reggie comes up and takes my book. He was like, mayor,
you go, had to get your tee fixed. And at
the time, I had like a little space in my
tea and he's like, Mary, you cut. You got to

(46:46):
get your teeth fixed, and you may have to get
you some titties or whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
And I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
First of all, first of all, who was married?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Who? I was like, why is he calling me Mary?
And I've just never had anybody just tit together quick
and being like, girl, get the t thing, can get
you some titties. And I was like, oh my god,
like got church going girl from Alabama. I had never
tore you up real quick like that ate me right up.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
I was like I didn't even know how to respond.
I was like okay, uh, I was like, okay, yeah,
thank you sir.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
You know whatever. Anyway, some buy some miracle.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
I got the job and it ended up being I
did the shoot and they ended up, you know, using
one of the beauty shots as the cover, which I
wasn't even there for the cover, and I don't think
I was there for that, but it ended up being
the cover of Essence, which was so I mean, if
I didn't do anything else, I couldn't actually stopped modeling
after that, because once I was on the cover of Essens,
I was like, oh my god, well, honey, I have

(47:43):
a ride ribbon, I have a ribbon, I can go
to some I can do something else.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Now, how did you get fashion Fair?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Oh? Fashion Fair? Oh my god, so fashion Fair? You
know I did? Actually, how did you even know about that?

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Because I don't really talk about that one that much
because it was like, really before I really took.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Off, I've seen the things, okay and watched all right,
so fashion Fair? So what I never I used to you?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Do you remember those Fashion Fair runway shows that they
would come to different small towns. It's different cities.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
And stuff. You remember that Fashion Fair.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Was one of the first makeup I ever put on
my face.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Yes, yes, same, same. Did you used to like what
was that lipstick color? I know you probably liked it
was like it was like a plump was like one
was like an iridescent rasp.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
It was my mama loves that.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It was a plum.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yes, like a plum, y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Asked miss Mary. I did, what's that? What's her favorite?
Oh that you goes, mama? What was your favorite Fashion
Fair lipstick? Which one passion?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Passion? Oh? No, she now she got it.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Oh my god, I'm not ready if she pulled up that. Okay,
But anyway, Fashion Fear so one of the things that
happened when I was in high school, remember.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
The Jet Beauty of the Weeks and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
So I was like, okay, I had an Ebony magazine
and I had a Jet I can't remember somehow they
had back then they would have an address where you
can mail your photo.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
So I was like, you know what, I'm just going
to see, like, I love all of this.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
I love these beautiful, confident women. So I melted my
photo and I actually got a call from them saying, hey,
you know, we're whatever in Chicago, we're interested in you
come into audition, and I was like, oh my god.
And again like coming from like a small town in

(49:54):
the South, like I'm actually like what you were probably
knows like Huntsville. I'll usually just say Huntsville, but I'm
really where I really grew up is come to your Alabama.
Oh that's deed, that's like Florence muscle shows. Yeah, that's
in that country country like matter of fact, Helen Keller.
It was the birth place of Helen kell. Oh yeah,
her little house is still right there.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
It's like a tourist thing.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
But anyway, anyway, Chile, So I had I didn't have
that kind of confidence, you know how like you walk
in like you I don't have that like ts Madison conference,
like when you walk in. I mean I was like, okay,
I'm cool and whatever, but like I didn't walk in
and just soak all the air out the room.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Girl.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I like, hey, y'all, I know, but that's like a
different kind of confidence. And I don't know, like when
did you get that confidence like that, because like that
you just don't get that confidence.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
I'm gonna tell you, I tell people. This It's like
when I used to I'm gonna give you the real answer. Okay,
when I used to walk the streets. Okay, when I
used to walk the streets and there was so many
was competitive, I guess, so you had to.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
It was so many that was so.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Much more pretty. It's so much more, so much more passable,
so much more fire, and so much more sexy. And
they all would be losing their apartments, they would be
losing their cars, they would be getting evicted. They would
be and I was like, what, I'm over here looking
at this bitch, like this bitch is the baddest bitch walking,
and this bitch is really trash underneath all that. Oh girl, please,

(51:20):
And so when men would come up roll up on me,
I would be like they would be like, oh you.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I was like, uy, that whole it's tied, and bro,
you got somebody.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
So I never see That's why I could.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Stand in with any beauty, with the beauty of the week,
the beauty of the year, the GQ magazine or whatever
is whatever, the most beautiful woman, the most beautiful trans woman,
and feel absolutely nothing and still.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Be like give her her things because I don't know
what's going on under.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
The layer of that, right right, I know what I
do right right?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I knew that obviously you hose gett put out be
cause y'all can't something no dig.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Using y'all car on, y'all, y'all ain't doing your job
because obviously you would be getting.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Some money, you would be managing your money better. Girl.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Well, I was gonna say, clearly, you just were exuded
more confidence to even get to even get chosen.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I guess I was confident.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I was confidence, yeah, Cynthia, because I was.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
You were somebody you had no choice. But I didn't
lose my apartment, right, you were trying to survive. I
ain't lose my apartment. I ain't losing my car, I
ain't lose my stuff. And I'm watching these girls struggle,
so that so their struggles as beautiful as they were
boosting my confidence.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
But that won't happened in the ugly all right, possibly
I would possibly never be losing my part. Right, you're
sitting on triple D titties and I have nothing, Please.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Babe, come on, baby, So what confidence is key?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
That's what it is. You weren't confident, and I was confident.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
But I wasn't bad bitch, confident like you know, like
and where I came from, I was. I wasn't not confident.
I had, you know, high self esteem.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
But if you if you're put in the room with
the Tyer Banks and everybody in New York City and
it's between you know, the best of the best to
ever do it, You're like, okay, like, I gotta come
in I gotta walk into this cast in a different
kind of way.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
I gotta walk in here like I belong. I gotta
walk in here like I'm her, and I gotta walk
in here like forget all these other supermodels in here.
Y'all want to work with me today.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And that's what I had to learn.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
But you were her, You are her.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I know what I didn't know you did because I
was with a lot of other her.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
You know why you you know why you didn't know
that because you still showed up.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You could have left.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yep, that's true. You knew that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, you could have.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
You could have left. You could have You still showed
up that you knew you were when you filled out
that thing. He was like, girl, I don't know if
I'm gonna get picked bush. Somebody made like what they see.
It was the inter you that really knew, you knew it. Yeah, listen,
when I'm around other people, I know who I am.
I don't have to make no announcement. I don't have
to whatever I come in the room. Sometimes I come

(54:16):
in the room trying to be but it never works out.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
That's not it.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Clearly that ain't it worked out. You can't even come
on the air that you can. I was on the
center my seat, pull it out, my little snack I
had brought on a plane and all of a sudden,
it's tornado.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
First of all, did you ever do your perfume life?
Because I smelled you before you hat man, I did
let that first class.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It was.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I was like, I mean, we're like okay.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I was like, I think it's it's because they talked
I was. I was always told I was ugly.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I was not.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I was not first pick I was. You know this
when as much better? And I survived through all that. Yes,
So that built because you were because in me.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I was the doll.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
And I used to be able to say I wish
I had this, And this is why people got to know.
Sometimes you wish it for other people's life, and they
ship is fucked up.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
They shit be fucked up. You gotta do you got it?

Speaker 3 (55:29):
And then people wish for our lives.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
And when I tell you, they couldn't mark a day
in my shoes because they have no idea what I
what my day to day is like?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
You don't want to sleep?

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Oh you must not want to sleep. You don't get
no sleep?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
What's the day to day?

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Oh? My god?

Speaker 5 (55:42):
My day and of life with me is work. Well,
first of all my only off day, and I forced
myself to be off on Sundays. I just try not
to do any work on Sundays. So other than that,
I usually get up in the mornings around For some reason,
my body wakes up at seven. It used to be eight.
Now I just wake up at seven. Yeah, get up,

(56:08):
wake it up, get some need. I check my emails.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
And it's always everything is urgent, respond you know, time sensitive.
So I do that. I go.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
You know, I'm not a huge breakfast person, to be honest,
but I try to just eat a little something because
I you know, otherwise I'll go in. It's like three
or four o'clock and I haven't eaten anything yet, but
I try to eat a little something. But for the
most part, it's it's mostly work. It's like, you know,
going over my schedule. Like I literally have a book
if I showed you my I have an old school
like agenda, like where I actually write everything down. I'm

(56:46):
like one of those people. I have to be pinned
the paper. I need to open it up and see
it in front of me. I post this everywhere in
my house to just remind me of everything that I
need to do because I'm very professional and I take
my job in my career very seriously because I had
to work hard, and I don't want to go back
to not like not having all money and not being
you know, financially independent and being able to live the

(57:10):
life that I that me and God want me to live. Okay,
So anyway, so it's just basically working from seven in
the morning to probably like mostly like maybe not at night,
to be honest, whether it's like you know, doing content,
you know, even putting a post gonna take me bout
thirty minutes to make sure I got to get the
right caption, gotta get the write song.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
You know.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
I do a lot of brand partnerships, you know, and
all that stuff is work, and you have to be
consistent with that stuff. And as a brand, I take
my brand very seriously because I'm able to make money
outside of you know, the TV shows that I do,
outside of the movies. My priority right now, My real
focus is my acting career. Come on, but I'm at
you know, I'm still growing and learning as an actress.

(57:52):
So I'm not up there where. And even you know,
you even saw like a lot of the you know,
well established actors, they just don't get paid that much money.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
So you gotta have thirty other households going on at
all times.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
So I live in fear of not being able to
take care of myself, which is another reason why, you know,
my health and wellness journey is important to me because
I got to be You got to be healthy to work,
and you can't call in sick to a TV show.
You know, we're filming Housewives. We're filming I gotta go
to work.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Well, my last stinch is a little bit about housewives.
I want you to close out on that.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Okay, sure, give me all the day.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Well, I can't give you too much, but I just
will say this is I have been a part of
the Housewives of Atlanta for well over a decade at
this point. I love that I was able to create
a space on that show, on the show as a friend,

(59:05):
and I love that because there's so many other things
I want to do, because I'm the kind of person.
Once I get the T shirt chat I did it,
done it, I really want to do so many other things.
And I feel like the thing that I will be
most known for, to be honest, hasn't even happened to
me yet. And this is a fifty eight year old
woman saying this, Like I really feel like for me

(59:26):
that that's going to be bigger than all the stuff
that I've done.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Life over till it's over.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
It's not over till it's over. So with that said,
I love working on the show as as a friend.
I love staying attached to the fans because, you know,
with about the fans and our supporters, I mean, that's,
you know, part of our story, Like we without them,
we're not celebrities because we got to have fans. We
got to have people that support us and everything that

(59:51):
we have going on.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
So we don't really have any dirt yet, not just started.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Is the show a gift and a curse.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Oh, that's a great question. It's a gift and it
can be a curse, but I think it's more of
a gift.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
I think if you have an opportunity to have a
platform like that, then you have to decide and be
very intentional about how you want to use the platform.
So anything that is not working in your life, if
you go on a show like that, is just going
to be magnified.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
And that's okay too, because Lord knows, when I first started.
I started Housewife season three and I didn't know what
I was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
It was a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I watched you get married.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You did watch me get married? Excuse me, you did
watch me get married.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
We watched you watch watched divorced.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Yes, you watch me go through money struggles on the
show parenting, all the things, all the things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Do you regret any of it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Not not a day, not a marriage, not a divorce,
none of the shows, none of my relationships, none of
my friendships.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
It's part of my story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Do you look back over the show and say over
from the years, I can say damn, damn, I did it,
or I wish I would have did this one better,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
When you're actually living it and is your life.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Like I don't look at my life because I'm the
one living it, doesn't is not that sensational to me.
It's not like, oh my god, I can't believe I've
been on a show for over a decade.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
It's just me. It's just my life, and I'm always
striving to get to the next thing or be better
at whatever it is that I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
So I always see room for I always look at
what I could have done better or how I can elevate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
You know. It's always like a work in progress for me.
But I do look back, you know, I do love.
It feels good to live in my purpose, to do.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
To get to do a job that that I enjoy
doing for the most part, Like I love you know,
I'm finally comfortable in the whole public figure space because
I'm actually kind of shy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I know you never know that, but I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Can tell, yeah, I am, Like I can be a
little socially awkward, like even like you know, if I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Go somewhere and they'd be like I tot the amiliens
at hours, I'm like, you know, like not too much.
Let me just go sit out. Yeah. So, but anyway,
I love.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I feel incredibly grateful to get to have my life
and live my life because I feel bad to even
complain about anything because I get to like, like I
went from I mean, I've had so many chapters Cynthia
the model, This is not started, Cynthia the TV personality,

(01:02:58):
Cynthia the actress. I mean, I just got my my
doctrine degree as a great humanitarian.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Doctor Bailey, Doctor Bailey.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
It just keeps going. But it's all it's just my life.
So it's just like you. It's you look at yourself
and you just see you. I look at myself. I
just see me, and I see like, okay, I'm running
to go and get this done and get that done.
It's just not that sensational to me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
But when I step back and look at the life
that I could have had, I love the life that
that I get to live.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I do one last hard question and then I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Uh huh, not a hard one. The last question ain't
supposed to be hard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Why didn't you marry Leon?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Oh my god, wow, I've never been asked that question before. Okay, So,
so I did not marry Leon because I felt like
at the time. You know, he's an artist, I'm an artist.

(01:04:14):
He's a creative. I'm a creative. He's a pisces. I'm
a pissy. Oh lord, we are literally the same people
in so many ways. And I just felt like Leon
as an artist for who he is, and he's a
true artist. Okay, that man was born to be an actor,
that is what he does, and a singer.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
I felt like he needed the type of partner that
could really nurture that, Like he needed someone to let
him be the artist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Because it's tricky when you got two artists and everybody's
going for the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
I mean, I've seen it be done, but I felt
like I wouldn't be able to fully just nurture his
talent and you know, the things that he needed from
a partner because I will still figure it out what
I was doing, and I knew that it would probably
be something in entertainment for sure, and he's entertained in entertainment.

(01:05:13):
So I needed a partner that maybe was not so much,
you know, doing the same things that I was doing.
So I just needed the balance of like, Okay, you
are doing this and I'm in this space.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
So I just felt like and I was. I was younger.
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
We have our beautiful daughter, Noel together, who's twenty five now,
and I just yeah, she's twenty five now, and I
didn't want to be like, oh, you know, I'm pregnant,
let's get married. But I do felt like I knew
I was going to meet Leon and I knew we
were gonna connect. And this is just from seeing him
in movies, Like I would literally be like, I'm going

(01:05:50):
to meet him one day and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I'm like, hey, he's baby.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
I mean, well, I knew that was gonna be a connection,
I'm telling you. And from the first time I met
that man, we locked eyes and I was like I
knew it. I just I don't even know what that's called,
but I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Knew it meant that he was my person.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Yeah, but I think we were put together to have Noel.
Noel is his one and only. She's my one and only,
and I think we were put together to have Noel
for Robinson. And we had We had a good time.
We had a beautiful time. Like I was like when
I was with Leon, you know, that was like the
first time I was really in love and it was

(01:06:28):
just like living out this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
And he was an actor and were going to premieres.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
I was a model. We just like the modeled actor.
I mean, it was a It was a beautiful love story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
It really really was. And I still love lyon He's
like friends.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I've watched how y'all interact. I've been watching you grow up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
Yeah, a lot of love and respect for him. I
just didn't feel like at that time, you know, and
I said, don't feel like I'm his person in that way.
I've always felt like I was going to be in
his life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
He was. I was gonna be in Leon's life.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
You knew he was. I'm gonna have his baby, and
that's gonna be my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
I didn't know about the baby then, but I knew
I was gonna be in the man. I knew I
was gonna be in this life.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
And they wore were gonna have sex, some good sex. Now,
there was no question about that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
And I didn't know I was gonna get pregnant had
the man baby, but I knew it was gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
And from that I knew that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
So when I tell you, I love you and I
cannot wait to see whatever God has for you, and
I can't wait to do things with you, because we're
gonna do some stuff together, honey watching.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yeah, Okay, we gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get down and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Then I want to I want to help support you
the starter houses. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, listen, we got some good news about expanding it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Okay, we'll talk. Yeah, let me come and talk to
the ladies. Let me like do whatever I can be Absolutely,
I have skincare, have my glow somebody. I can have
somebody come up and give him face a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Okay, soo, so closing out, Cynthia, tell us all the
stuff you got.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Okay, we know what to get from you, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
So I also just started a skincare line with my
partner and friend. Okay, we do Okay, Okay. We talked
about tequila. Okay, the Commissary of tequila that is worldwide.
It it's all over the place. You can guys, you
guys can get it anywhere. It's amazing tequila. If you
like tequila, you will love to I'm sorry and I
can't wait. I need to have a shot with you

(01:08:28):
have this interview. But yeah, if y'all got some shot
glasses around, so I have that and then I also
started a skincare line with my longtime friend of over
twenty five years, Dana Hill. It's called it's called Globe
sim we have two products. We have a miracle skinned
oil elixir and it's amazing. I'm going to get you
some of that and a moisturizer. We want to start

(01:08:50):
with just two products, get that out there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I was like, you know, I follow a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Boss women entrepreneurs, and I kind of like took a
page from you know, Anastasia with the eyebrow and she
started with just eyebrow thing, and we all she sold
us on those brows.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
And then then she started rolling out of the products.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
So the advice, like, you didn't ask me to do this,
but the advice I'd gift to anyone who's starting the
business is to start small, like get your one thing
out there and make sure people can't live without it,
and then you expand.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
So I have that, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Oh, I have a suit line. Almost wore today. I
am doing a suit line with Jovanni. Yes, I wear
a lot of their dresses. If you see me in
a gown is more than likely Jovanni. So we're doing
a partnership together where I'm doing suits with them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I love a good power suit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well, do I need some of the for the Emmys?
Do they have a dress?

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Oh yes, Oh my god. I will definitely hook you up.
Like seriously, I'm not even playing with you when you
need it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Well, the September fourteenth is the Emmys.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Okay, yes, a congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Well that's drag Race, honey.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Yes, you know I'm at Rue Paul. Years ago when
she first started, we did a photo shoot with This
is one of my modeling stories with David la Chappelle,
and he was like telling me, like, you know, Ru
Paul is coming in, and I think she was from here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
I want to say she came from Atlanta. Now, don't
get me a line, but I feel like it was
from Atlanta. And we ended up doing an editorial together.
And what I remember about her that power and that confidence.
Like she walked in and I was like, and she
happened makeup on. She walked in and she brought all
her stuff and this was way back then. She did
her own makeup and when she came out, she had
got her wig on, and we were like, we were

(01:10:33):
shooting for this Japanese magazine and it was like, I
just told her, reminder her about this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
But anyway, long.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
Story short, girl, I've lived. At some point, I want
to do a book. What would you call out of Stories?

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Oh? What would I call it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Oh? Now, what are you going to call it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
What am I going? Yes, that's right, manifested manifestation. I'm
going to call it. What should I call it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
CB? One on one, C B one on one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
It's it's a books something we're spiritual.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Oh, because I'm really like, we didn't get into my
spiritual journey part of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
You want it to well, come back an other time.
I think we'd have ran out of time, have we?
I know, we definitely been. We talked about wait for
thirty minutes and I got to get your address from
Joe Vine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Shall we be on the phone and top of it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
But we all come up with the name.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Yeah, and but that that's like the final final, literally
the final chapter is. I would love to just tell
my story because I think it's you know, I always
want to be in a space of inspiration and motivation
for girls, women who didn't know, didn't know they were her, didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Know I didn't know I was her?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Oh my God, I love that. I didn't know I
was her. See look at that. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
I didn't know I was her because I didn't. I
honestly didn't know. And then some days I wake up
if now I'm like, am I ever heard that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
The name of your book? Yeah? I did, Cynthia Bailey.
I didn't know I was her.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I didn't know I was her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I don't want none of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
You'll get to can do the fore word for it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yes, because I didn't know I was her either, Listen,
because I wasn't him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Listen. You know so many people that had risen to fame.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I bet they didn't know they were Boom, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
I didn't know it was y'all gonna take my I
love yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Cynthia, I love you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Come on out to the house before you get too
to before you get too small. Let my mama cook
you something and give you a spood for of that
purple lipstick that she got. That purple passion, that passion,
that passion, it's passion, something from passion.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I'm look at it so as because I knew exactly
I know the lipstick that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I love you. Make sure to tune in to the Housewives.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Of Atlanta Hunter when it comes on season seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Caesus seventeen. God damn it, Cynthia Bailey. Y'all put, y'all
have the thank you, thank you, thank you, I love
your love you all right, okay, bye bye. Outlaws is
a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart Podcast and
Turtle Run Entertainment Call. Created by Tyler Rabinowitz and Olivia Piece,

(01:13:18):
I'm your host Tias Madison. We are executive produced by
Tyler Rabinowitz, Maya Howard and Tis Madison. Our simpervising producer
is Jessica Krinicch and our producers are Joey pat and
Cormon Mora. Our video editor is Tyler Rabinowitz and our
sound editor is Just Crime.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Our associate producer is Trent high Tower.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Special thanks to our producers assistant Daniel Rabinowitz. Our theme
song is composed by Wazi Merritt. Our show art is
by Pablo Martine. I Got You Next Week, Honey,

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