October 14, 2025 • 41 mins
The doctor is IN today– this week’s episode of "Outlaws" is holy, hilarious, and dare we say... HEAVENLY. TS Madison sits down with her longtime friend, dentist, reality TV star, and Congressional candidate, Dr. Heavenly Kimes from "Married to Medicine."
Dr. Heavenly shares with Maddie how she got into dentistry, from early encouragement to study medicine to the search for a speciality that would also allow a work life balance. Because she’s not just a doctor and a business woman, but a wife and mother of three kids too! The pair get into Dr. Heavenly’s dive into the reality TV world with “Married to Medicine." Dr. Heavenly says reality TV gave her the training she needed for her next career move– politics.
That’s right, Dr. Heavenly is running to represent Georgia’s 13th district in Congress! She and Madison delve into her decision to run for office, what she plans to do once she wins, and why it’s important to get out the vote. TS Madison reminds us that now more than ever, as so many vulnerable groups face attacks from the federal government, it’s important to bring humanity back into politics!
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Don't wait, no wind two inches bedd beat.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yourself is get a job ricking honey, rick hoondre.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Chasing it all.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm black like that sbout living in color easy.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
This is Outlaws.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But she is medicine, honey, is it on? Is it
only this? Stay recording?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is your gratias, medicine coming to you loudlive and
always end, forever in color.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
From the Outlaws podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Child and today, I have a woman who is not
only my good Judy, she is a good dentist.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She is a raped wife, wife, mother, mother, entrepreneur, entrepreneur,
and now and now she is running for Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You asked, House of Representative ladies, will please put y'all
hands together for my sister, my friend, doctor Heavenly Himes. Yes,
doctor heaven that's me. So, so I know where you're from.
Can you tell us where you're from?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, you know, I'm from Miami, the bottom, the bottom,
Carol City, by way of over Town, Liberty City, Carol City,
Scott Lake, all of that, Miami born and raised, born
and raised in Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, okay, And so what got you into being a dentist.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like I said my mama. My mama told me from
the time I was very little. You know, the older
generation thinks that being a doctor is everything. You're going
to be a doctor. You're going to be a doctor.
You're going to be a doctor. That was instilled in
me from time I was I was four years old.
So I used to see My mom used to say,
you're gonna be a pediatrician. I couldn't even say a pediatrician.
And then I realized I didn't like kids like that, so,
(02:06):
well do you like kids? Now? I like my kids,
you know, but sometimes but I felt like that wasn't
the career for me. So I wanted to do dentistry
because I wanted to be a wife. I wanted to
be a mother. I wanted to set my own hours.
I wanted to be able to work when I wanted
to work. So I wanted a lifestyle that I could
do and not be on call, not be you know
(02:26):
what I'm saying. And so I without a dentistry, Well,
what made you want to be a wife and a mother?
I just always wanted that. I wanted a man and
I wanted kids. That's what I wanted, not nobody else's
kids but my own.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Now, you know, I had debate people all the time,
especially the men that I'm around. M hm, debate okay,
that usually women are bred to be wives and mothers. Yeah,
because that's a woman's god. They want to they want to.
Women dream about the wedding dress that they're gonna pick
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out out to walk down the island. And they also
dream about my first kid, what is his or her
name gonna be. I hope he looks like his mom,
and I hope he looks like his dad's.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Oh. I hope that if I have a daughter, she
looks like me.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yes, they think about the clothes, and I get argue
down so much about how that's not true. And every
time that the opportunity presents itself for me to say gotti,
I do it to every nigga that I talk to, Okay,
because it's like it's like when we're debating, because we
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get into this.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Thing about.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
How much, you know, men and women are on equal
playing fields when it comes to cheating and all that
type stuff, and I'm like, no, no, no no no
no no no.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No no no no no no no, you don't want
to have that conversation with me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Men and women are completely different on the playing field
when it comes to cheating. Absolutely, women are because we
live in a patriarchal society. Men can get away with
complete being exactly who they are, and women have been.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Instilled, it has been instilled in women to be wives
and mothers. Women want to be a wife and a mother.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Lay back.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I had to crack my bag because I'm always I'm
always right all the time, all the time. So you
became a wife, you became a mother, you became a dentist.
And you didn't just become any dentist. You became a
dentist in Atlanta. What brought you to Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, long story short. My husband he matched in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He did family medicine right for three years he was
a resident and I was working as an associate doctor.
He did family medicine, but he wanted to do emergency medicine.
So Emory accepted him into their emergency medicine school downtown Atlanta.
And so I came with my man.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So did you meet him in Miami?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, no, no, I met him in dental school. We
met in Nashville, Tennessee, oh Nashville. He went to Case
Western Reserve. He was from He was from Vineland, New Jersey.
I was from Miami, Florida. He said he had never
seen this many black people in his life because we
went to an HBCU, which is Mahary Medical College. And
he said he was gonna find his wife here, and
when he saw me, he knew I was it. So
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that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And then you put that scorpion on him.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, I put that Miami scorpions scorpion.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You had stung it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
A hot steak. Hot fire got him, gott he got him?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And did you hear?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Then?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now there's two doctors married, And how many children do
you have?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now? I have three children. I have Damon Junior, I
have Zachary, and I have my baby girl on Laura.
She's nineteen now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, so I met all your kids. She had two
sons and a daughter. And you are you breeding your
sons to be dentists or doctors.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My middle boy, Zachary is actually in dental school right now.
He's in his second years Mahary Medical College. So I'm
breeding him to take over my practice. I will when
I win. When I win, I will take office in
twenty twenty seven, and my son will be able shortly
after to take over my practice.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I'm have a call up to the office and
let him do it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It'll be smiled by not to Heavenly and zach and
doctor Zachary.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yes, so I have to call out they let him
do my little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I don't him, Yes, talk to him. I will.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I know that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So, so now we're here at this space and you
you got on. I'd like to know, because I'm taking
a step by step.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Because I step, I'm gonna get to how you take
your time? We you got on? How did you get
on reality television?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know what? I never never thought I would ever
be on reality TV. My opportunity presented itself. I don't
know if y'all know Mariah Hook and Toya Bush Harris.
Toya husband actually worked with my husband in the er,
and uh, they called me one day. I was in Rome,
Italy and Toya say, hey, we're doing a pilot for
a reality TV show. And I say, yeah, everybody in
(06:57):
Atlanta doing that. You know what, I'm saying, but I
actually he did the pilot the first season. Decided not
to do the show because I had nine practices right,
and I was like, this is gonna negatively infect affect
my practices, So I didn't. They called me back the
next year. The next year, I actually got to see
the show and I knew it was two million viewers.
Two million viewers, so I was thinking about my marketing
(07:19):
process there. But also they had to fight the first season,
so that was also a reason for pause. I ended
up joining the show the second season and been there's
ever since and we just filmed finished filming season twelve.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, I was I'm on this season. I think, Yeah,
you are you?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are you extet?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I was on.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was on the last season, the season before, and
every time they have a season, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They yes, Ts, they called me for you, They say, hey,
can Ts film with you today? Can Ts? Can we
get Tia? But you be so busy A lot of
times we can't get you when we do it all cast.
But we thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But I thank you for having me. I thank you
for always looking out for me. I think I thank
you for that you've repaired my teeth. Yes, you've repaired
my mother's teeth. Yes, my mother has a beautiful smile.
We're gonna let you do the bottom of it too.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know, I got to save up a lot of money.
You're worth every dime.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I know that's right. Thank you for saying that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'd like for people to know that you're worth every day.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Smiles by doctor
Heavily dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I love you too.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
How did you get into this area of this life
where you are right now? Because right now you're running
for us hungred.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, yes, yes, long story short. I went down down
to pick up an award, a good citizen award down
there in the Capitol Building. Everybody that a lot of
people down there knew me. They you know, were taking pictures.
And one lady said, would you run for office? I laughed,
I laughed. I said, do you know who I am?
She said I do. I said, do you know what
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I do on TV? She said, and do? And that's
why they need you down there on you know, in
government in the Capitol Building. I said no. Initially, in fact,
I said hell no. I went back. They told me
to talk to a few people, and I did. They
told me why they needed somebody with a wide voice,
with the resources, with the reach for office. And I
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thought about it. I see my people need me now.
I have been giving back to my community and I
will continue to give back to my community. But I
prayed about it. I fasted for three days and God
put something on my heart to do it and I
and I went from hell no to God, why me?
To I am so excited that God chose me for
(09:37):
this task. So God can change your feelings about certain things.
And I'm ready for the task. D to heavenly for Georgia,
dor heavenly for Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So what is your first plan of action when you
win my platform?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
First of all, we have so much going on in
my community that people are not being heard. In fact,
we talked about it. A lot of people are not
even voting because they feel like they're doesn't matter because
people don't think that people care. First of all, I
will promise the people that you will get the truth
from me. I do not have any big machines behind me.
All I want to do is help the people and
speak up for the people, my family, my community, and
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the decisions we make will not just affect our community,
but the communities around us, the state, and probably the
whole United States. But my platform, what you ask me,
has to be health care. We see too many people
without health care. Even when they talk about Medicaid, medicare.
Even the people that are not on medicating and medicare,
we have people in the gaps. Insurance is high. The
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first rule of business that expand Medicaid Medicare, but lower
the costs of medical insurance got to be right. Okay, schools,
I'm big on education. I can go on and on
ts medical education, education, education, education. At this point, our
schools in our district are not up to part and
I have so many ideas to help the school system.
(10:56):
And sometimes the answer is just not to throw more
money at them. Sometimes the answer is to make them
more competitive to each other and actually educate the people
from the school board own down. You know what I'm saying.
I do.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, you know where you are in this current regime
that we're and you're in my district, yeah, in Conyers.
You know where you are in this current regime, and
you know the pushback that you might receive, yes from
the current president that we have in office. Yes, they
want to dismantle the Department of Education, which is something
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that you absolutely you're running to clean up education.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And also you are in the healthcare.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Because you know, I do believe that dentistry, especially cosmetic dentistry,
is a part of gender affirming care. Yes, all of
that stuff is being challenged right now currently in the administration.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So you don't think that this is going to be
like an extreme challenge.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think that a lot of people ask me, heavenly,
are you ready to fight this challenge? Why would you
be ready? Why would you want to fight this? I
think a lot of times we think that we're not
in war. We're already in war, whether we choose to
fight or not. I see this knocking at my door,
and I have a platform and I'm willing to use
it to help the people in my community and my
family and the people I know. So this is a
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great task. T s madisone. It is, but I'm here
for it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm excited about it. Actually it's gonna be a battle.
It is because you're a democrat, right, I.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Am absolutely a democrat. And the thing about it, a
lot of people say reality TV is the negative. No,
it trained me for this. I'm ready. I have the voice,
I have the reach. I'm not afraid, and you know,
and I don't care really what people say. We have
an agenda and we need to push forth that agenda
to help our people.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I believe that, but I know that currently right now,
I'm looking at how the Coke Country is being dismantled,
like their country is being dismantled piece by piece, especially
the way that they are going completely against the constitution.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, they are, they are. They are.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So all the things that you're standing for and that
you're coming in and finding for, and that you have
the voice of.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The people for that's going to be a very tough thing.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No doubt about it. And I'm built for that. That's
why I'm here.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I'm built for it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You understand what I'm saying. I'm telling you that, Yes,
there are a lot going There's a lot going on
right now, and sometimes you have to expose everything and
tear it up before you start rebuilding it and putting
it back together the right way. So sometimes you have
to just expose it. I think we have the reach,
we have the voice, we have the resources to bring
back to the community. And you know, I'm big on
not just waiting for the government to help our people, right,
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but coming up with ideas where we can help ourselves.
For example, if I open a Medicaid office in Rockdale
County or in the district somewhere, right, I can get
a whole lot of dentists to volunteer if you will there.
Just based on my platform, I can say, hey, you
know what, I got millions of followers on social media,
if you come here, because everybody wants something, you know,
for exchange, if you come here, will promote your business
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like I do. Smile by Doctor Heavenly and they'll come.
I know them based on you know, we can help
each other. My husband is a physician, so we can
do all kinds of medical and you know, and events
and drives to help the people in every way. We
know a lot of people, we have a lot of resources,
and we're ready to put them at work for this district.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I know, Doctor Heavenly, But what about the the way
that that they're cutting all this they're cutting Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
They are they are and people will die, yes, and
will die. We're seeing the effects of it right now.
My husband tells me that the older people or even
younger can't get their Medicaid medication, meaning that if you
have diabetes or some other kind of ailment right now,
not even when this bill is finished passing. Of course,
hospitals have closed and will continue to close, especially in
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the rural areas, but they're not getting their medication right now.
So these people are going to die. And we cannot
leave our people behind, the elderly, the less, the unfortunate,
the less. You know, And I'm winning to fight. I'm
willing to do what I can. I can use my voice,
I can use my intellect right and make some changes.
I don't want to just be down there talking. I
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don't want to do that. I want to actually pass policy.
So I understand how you have to reach across the
house and be be be friendly with the people and
and and work together at some point.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But how do we combat something like that? It sounds
like that you would.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Have You know why you're thinking that. Let me give
you an answer to that. You're thinking what your carnal mind? Listen,
I'm thinking. I'm speaking spiritually. I'm gonna come in there
and and and and spiritually. God has called me to
do this for real. I ain't even playing with y'all.
God has called, So it's going to change because we're
gonna bring I think God is pulling people from unexpected places.
You understand, I'm the least likely you would think that
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would run for Congress right list, And we have a
lot of sisters and a lot of bad sol that
are coming together and hopefully I can inspire others to
come forward because these jobs don't pay a lot of money.
They don't pay a lot of money. A lot of
people feel like and basically I hate to say that
they getting what they're paying for. You see what I'm saying.
So we need the people that can step up, step
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out in spite of you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I do, but I'm just thinking about because I know
I'm looking at it every single day. I see something new,
something heinous, being done to the less fortunate people. And
as a person that's gonna be running for office and
that will win because you know, as a person that's
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doing this, you gotta come in and with some like
I know that you say you're coming with the spiritual mind, but.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You got to come in and be like, damn this.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
They are really making my job difficult because if Medicaid
is paying for the doctors to do all the stuff
that people need.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This means that.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Everybody's gonna have to become selfless and start working on
people and helping people without being paid for medicaid.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think that there is a in between. I think
that we can demand, we can get people together, doctors, physicians,
then to selike to actually demand that they expand medicaid,
not just statewide because it is state wide program, but
put more federal funds into these programs. I think that
that can happen. I think it will happen. I think
it has to happen. But they need people that are
not afraid to speak up and speak out. And I know,
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you know people talk about reading and doing all that,
knowing any of time to read. Is it time to
shake things up and be heard so we can actually
bring about a real change for real, Like this ain't
no joke, t is. I wouldn't even do it if
I wasn't serious about it.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I've seen the shift of you since the third first
day that you announced that you were doing it. Absolutely,
I've seen the shift like you very I can't play
no more. I've been playing on social media.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I've been playing on reality TV, but now it's trying
to get real seriously as medicine. So have you have you?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's a question that I don't because I.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Ask it, Boot, I'm gonna answer, have you Yes, I
don't know. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, it's about the way that people have already got
this perception about you. I love you because I know
I know what the perception is that I know how
the people treat you to have to receive you.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You from Miami. Yes, we read to the floor. Yes,
and we are your mamma in a heartbeat. Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
How do you how are you going to navigate or
how do you navigate around? Because you've had eight seasons
actually eleven.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
We're in season twelve right now.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I came in on the second season, but I was
a friend in the first season.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Or yes, so you've been there for nine season.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I've been there eleven season. Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, Well you have eleven seasons of people that have
been like I love that, I love her, and then
eleven seasons of people mmm, like uh, but they know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Me, they know me, right, that's just like with anything.
Thirty three percent of that people can't stand you. Thirty
three percent of love your dirty draws thirty three percent.
Don't give a damn one way the other. Right, all
I need is fifty plus one, fifty percent plus one.
I've done the numbers and we're gonna make that happen.
I know my win number and we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
How how have you been? Have you been door to door?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Not yet, it's not time for that. Actually, we're kind
of early. We're kind of early on. Our election is
not until May of twenty twenty six, so we're early.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm early.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm getting in early, yes, ma'am. We're putting the word
out there.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And so your campaign manager.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, miss Watt wh Yes, I actually have a whole team.
I have a political team that works with high profile
politicians and we have a whole thing put together. But yes,
mss Quad is out front. She's my girl. I trust
her and I know she's putting a heart and her
soul into what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What made you choose Quad as a as a campaign manager?
You want the real answer? I do.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I trust her first and foremost. She is my friend. Secondly,
we on reality TV, so I felt like we could
get more camera time and she would push forward the
agenda she knows what this is, and she knows that.
I like bad sisters. I don't like no slow sisters.
I don't like no dumb sisters. I like bad sisters.
They can push their agenda to understand what this is
and how important it is to not just our people,
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but the people all around us, not just our district,
but for the state and for the United States. Since
you major announcement for this for your run, overwhelming support,
That's what I want to overwhelming support. I mean, we
get some negative, but my positive people shut them down.
We dare you talk about a black educated woman who's
trying to help her community. Why would you do that
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when your president has not only he has to set
the standards, because the standard should be much higher. However,
I remember listening to uh was it Jamal Bryant, right,
And I'm just giving this as an example. He said,
you know what, people are always asking how much does
Krefflo dollar make? How much did Eddie Eddie Long make?
How much does Jamal Bryant make? You never asked what
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Stanley Stanley, Uh, what's his name? Stanley, Charles Stanley, President
Preacher Charles. You don't ask about those people. You don't
ask about Joel Olstein and how much he makes.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But we saw the money in the wall down there.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
But you woult's see that. But my whole thing is
we're out front for certain things, and our people would
judge us harder than anyone else. But let's look at
the opposition, right, and we're ready, and you know, if
we're there, we ten times better, were ten times more qualified.
Do you want to hear how I'm qualified? Because I
can tell you that too.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'd like to know.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, listen, I built businesses, right, I've done payroll right.
The whole purpose of this job is to control money.
They give you a budget for your district in order
to decipher that money out to make sure you can
stretch it as long long as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So you're giving me a civics one on one right now.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Absolutely, I can tell you the three branches of government.
I'm gonna tell you what they are. They're the executive branch, right,
that's the president, his cabinet is vice president. Right. Then
there's the legislative branch, which I will be a part of.
There's Congress, House of Representatives and the senators right, and
then there's this judicial branch that's supposed to interpret the
laws right, supposed to right, and we're not following things.
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But the thing's gotta fall in place. You know what
I'm saying. If you look at the Bible, we will win.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Just know that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So don't even worry about don't question him. I remember
talking to Al Sharpton when he came on our show.
A lot of people give up, but you can't give up.
You got to keep the hope alive and keep going.
We've been we've been fighting for how long. We know
how to fight. We know how to do it since
Charlie Chisholm fighting. How they said the audacity of a
black woman to run for president? And she got so far,
she got so far, And a lot of people say, heavenly,
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how are you coming in this by yourself? I like
to quote the great Maya Angelo, come on, quote I
am not by myself. I'm with the thousands of my
answers that fought for me to be here, that are
right here with me today. So spiritually I'm here. I'm
ready to yes, Madison, and I ain't playing with the people.
I see you very passionate.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Absolutely, I see the passion. I feel it's oozing through
over here. To me, what brought about this change?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I told you when people, when people asked me to run,
Initially I didn't want to do it. God put this change.
That's the only ans I could give you, because there
wasn't no other reason. And the switch to Congress was
when I announced it, I got so much overwhelming support, clergy,
preachers of my colleagues, entertainers asking me, Heavenly, you need
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to broaden your horizon. Okay, the state is is, but
you could do Congress and actually bring all these resources
from Washington. Actually be a bridge from Washington to your district.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Right, Okay, hold the line, Hold the line, hold the line.
Initially you were just running for state.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Let me give you a difference. State is over the
state that okay. The head of the state representative would
be the governor, right, a governor, and then you got
your state representatives, and you got your state senators. Right.
I think in Georgia there are one hundred and eighty
state representatives and fourteen state senators. Right. The government so
it's run just like the federal government, but on the
state level. Right, So in the US Congress, you have
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your president that's over the state Senators. There's two per state,
which is one hundred total, and there's four hundred and
thirty five US congresswomen meaning US House of Representatives. There, right,
that's where I will be out of the four thirty
five right, and they actually they actually make the laws.
We push policy in legislation, so change things.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You went from state to Congress. It's Congress, Yes to Washington, DC.
Since the last time that I've seen you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, Yes, that's right. You got it, You got it,
you got it. We got overwhelmed support. So many people
asked me and I went through the same thing. Listen,
I gotta wait on God. I gotta wait on God.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I did.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And you know, I'm gonna tell you this, and I
don't even know if I should say this, but I'm
gonna say it. So many people asked me to run
for Congress. I was like, Nah, I'm gonna sit right
here because I know what this is and I can
stay here or whatever. And I knew my husband. I said,
my husband ain't gonna let me go to d C.
He ain't gonna do that. How am I gonna do this?
How am I gonna take this? How am I gonna
do this? God? Put it on my heart and I
said it while I was filming. I said, Daddy, I
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was initially asked to run for Congress, but I knew
you wouldn't let me go to d C. He said,
why did you think that? He said, if God got
a calling for you, I have no choice but to
help you and be behind you in every way. Right.
So then after that people kept it. I said, Lord,
what you want me to do? Jesus God, I surrender
my life to you. That's when I started having all
these attacks against me, my family. You know, my son
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got arrested, all these different things, and y'all gonna see
a player. I don't married to medicine, but I'm like, God,
what you want. And then this lady gave me a
book by Priscilla Shriver and it's called Put On the
Full Armor of God. And they explained to me, when
you're trying to do something great, the devil doesn't come
for empty vaults. He comes at you with everything he got.
And I knew at that point, I can't stop. I
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can't stop. I can't stop.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's insane that from the last time I've seen you,
you went from state.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To help it more people now understand it's the same district.
I'll be able to help the same dishcy. It's the same,
it's just more people. For example, state may be seventy
seventy four thousand people, right the US House is seven
hundred and fifty four thousand people. So it's a larger number,
very much larger. But the interesting thing is in our district,
the problem is many of us don't vote, and the
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primaries less than twenty percent of our population vote.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I've been asking questions, me and Freddio been out here
asking a question of people. Say they don't think we're
being heard. We don't think that it matters, we don't
think that the government cares. I think they're gonna do
what they want to do anyway. And my answer to
that is they wouldn't be doing all they doing is
your vote didn't care, they wouldn't be doing all the
jerry mandering and the line and the cheat and they're
doing right now, right if your vote didn't care, your
vote didn't matter. It's so much going on. So my
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whole thing is you need the people to stand up
and stand out, not just the talk, but actually make
policy happen. I'm not the one person that's gonna be
hollering out there. No, that's not me. I'm smart, I'm calculated.
I'm structured to the point where we're gonna give some
policies passed, and we're gonna pray. We're gonna meditate and
expose people and explain to them why you're wrong, not
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expose them in a sense that put them out there,
coach straight to them. And you say you're a Christian?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right I am?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I know. I'm saying, when we get to the people,
you tell you a Christian, how can you do this?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You see what I just said.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I am right, I believe it. I've separated myself from
the aspect of real religion. I'm more into a relationship
that I have with God. But I just said, when
you say, you say you're a Christian, I said, I am.
What's your what's your what is your what's your pitch
to them?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
After that?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My pitch is you know right from wrong, you know
good from bad. If you read any part of that Bible,
does it say that you and doesn't it say that
you're supposed to take care of the week and the poor.
That's our foundation, our country was founded on Christianity, So
if y'all could get back to that, no, yes, no, yes, yes,
the principles of Christianity. Yes, no, yes. Now, don't get
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me wrong. People have suffered, bred and dyed to believe
what they want to believe. Right, But good is good
and bad is bad.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yes, good is good and bad is bad. But if
we get into the subject of if we I believe
heavily in a separation of church and state.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I agree with you. I agree with you one hundred percent.
But if I'm looking at these Republicans and they say
they're Christians, how dare you say you can do these things.
I'm not saying that everybody has to be a Christian.
I am. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I
believe them with all my heart. But this country was
founded on You believe what you want to believe, You
live how you want to live, you love who you
want to live, You do what you want to do.
But at the end of the day, they singing in
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christian if you're Christian and you understand that we're supposed
to take care of our people, yeah, I'm not exposed them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, but then we cherry picked the things, because that's
what they do exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Because this this, this last campaign was was ran heavily
on targeting trans people.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh lord, let's get to that. Let's get to it.
Let's get to it. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
This last, this last thing was it was heavily targeted
on trans people.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And why I mean, but the things they asked me,
They even asked me that the the launch, Heavenly, what
do you think about trans being in sports? And I'm
thinking it's layered.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You don't have the full answer. I don't have the
full answer, And I'm trans it is layered because there's
so many things that need to be measured. One we
don't even have we don't have our own It's not
a large percentage of us. There's five hundred thousand athletes
and I think eight eight or nine or eight or
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nine of them are trands, right.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
The percentages are very low.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's low.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So why is this even a topic of common? That
was what I was gonna say, you cutting me off.
I was thinking, like, I don't want to say the
wrong thing, but it's not it's not that many. Why
would you ask me that first? When there's people out
here hungry, my my campaign. I'm saying that why they're
asking me that when that is important. Don't get me wrong,
that's important everyone's But why is it important?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because they're they're they're screaming about protect women, right, and
everything is about protect women. But these are the same
men that are making laws on women's body, on having
and on having not a single woman in the room, yes,
on having governed being able to govern women's bodies.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So this whole thing is twisted, doctor, Heavenly, it is twisted,
and it's it's it's all cherry picked, and it's all
for patriarchy, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And when I say it's important, I mean that in
a sense that everybody's important. However, that's a small percentage.
Look at the percentage of people that don't have food,
that are not on they're getting their snap benefits. They
used to call it food stands before they EBP, but.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Heavily people knew that. People see that.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But the way that the campaign was ran, they made
us as public enemy number one. They made us public
enemy number one. And by making us public enemy number one,
they were able to garner votes from people who are Christian,
from people who I love the Lord, I don't like
them the Lord said all of them is abomination, and
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all in the same breath, not really paying attention to
the real monster that was standing in front of them,
and the real monster was taking away food from their kids.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
The real monster was taking away health.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Care, education, education leads in.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That the real monster was dismantling all of the civil rights,
or attempting to dismantle all of the civil rights that
the Constitution was amended for for minority people.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And they fused one group of people.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
One because they knew that people feared that, They knew
that people that would be something that they could bring together,
which wasn't a really big topic, but they felt like
a lot of people would be against it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's why they were. And they were against it because
they made us out to be.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't think they understand it. Yes, well they didn't
because they don't want to, right. I agree, they don't
want to understand it. And they they they made us
out to be monsters. They made us out to be
predators of children. They made us out to be separating
us from women, especially the trans women. They made us
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enemies with women, like you are invading women's spaces.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And they use the sports.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
To blow it up, you would think, because the average person,
doctor Hevley, is not running around here looking at the
numbers of people playing sports. They hear men against women right,
men against women, And it's just like, when you really
break it down, it's eight people, six five, maybe it's
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eight people amongst five hundred thousand people. But because you
were able to zero in and home in on a
specific group of people, you made these people, You made us.
You took the humanity from us and made it like
we don't have a right to live in this country
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or have any rights in this country. Or there's only
two genders it's male and female. Is this It's just
like it's just like I, because I am trans and
your friend I sat back and watched the government single
handedly destroyed so many other vulnerable groups of people, and
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those same vulnerable groups of people assisted in their own
destruction because it's something that they didn't understand and something
that they were led by Christianity to do. So, as
my congresswoman, I need you to bring humanity back.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Absolutely absolutely, no one person should be singled out for
their race, for their gender, for anything right, and I
believe that that's not a part of my legislation because
that's already passed. But what is is that education, that healthcare,
making sure everybody can come home safely, through police reform
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and through the economy, make getting money back to the community.
Because oh that's important. Your topic is important. Everybody's topic
is important.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But well, what heavenly we all tie into that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You know why they went after at medicaid and Medicare
and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It was cheap enough.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
They went after stuff for gender affirming care. I was
gonna say that gender affirming care. No, no, no, not
help me with this because I just don't know. And
and this might be I may have you to cut
this out because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
If you go to jail right and you don't get
your gender affirming care, what happens. I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I never stayed in jail long enough. I mean, I
haven't been to jail, but I I ain't stayed jail
long enough. Do you do you what gender firming care?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Turn back to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Let me tell you what gender affirming care.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Is not inappropriate to ask, because you know.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The world what gender affirming care is breast augmentation. Okay,
because teeth, anything that helps you.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And women.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And here's the thing what's so crazy about it. Everybody
gets gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, let's talk about that for a minute. Let's start
right there. When you say gender affirming care, are you
saying for the insurances to pay for it? Because I
will tell you this, the insurance doesn't pay for cosmetic dentistry.
It does not pay for breast augmentation unless there's some
kind of disease on there. So if you're saying gender
firma care to do something cosmetic, then that's something different, right,
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But you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I know, but but gender affirming care is everybody gets it.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
And so they were really heavy on trans people doing
the gender firmic care, and it helped the people vote
against themself instead of them being educated on girl, you
can't just get up and go have a sex change
without going through without going through psychological situations and stuff
like that. It's just so much, so many layers of
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stuff that people should have been should have been educated
on that you are a part of running for bringing
education back.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Why are they trying to remove of studies and like
queer studies and black studies in the same thing, wrapping
that stuff up in the same type of situation.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I don't want you to end.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm just trying to say they trying to move cancer studies.
People are dying. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I get what you're saying, and that show plight and
I get it. However, people are dying. They removing cancer studies,
they weren't the studies for high blood pressure, for kidneys
and everything like that. But what I'm telling you is
not finna kill.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Nobody doctor heamally.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
What I'm telling you is they use us as deploy
to deflect all of that that they're doing. And the
people were voting in that space because they're the main
focus was we were the political ploy use this to
blind them while we do all this, and they help
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us do this because they're uneducated on the girls, they're
uneducated on the gay They're uneducated. So if we can
use these people as a ploy, we can get them
all because we know that they all hate this, and
in their hate for this, we gonna be able to
cut around everything they need. So the focus needs to
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be on humanity as where everybody is a human being
and everybody needs these basic essentials to survive.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
We need education, we need health care, we need food.
We need food, and we need police reform. We need
to be able to live in our communities. We do
and know that the pas for us and not against them.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Take the focus off of this right and bring the
focus on we're all human, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And that's what I'm doing, is Congress, God They're heavenly
for Congress this year thirteen, We're gonna focus on the
things that really matter that affect everybody. Right, your grandmamaa
need that medicaid, medicare. I'm telling you a great percentage
of the the the clinics for or the places for
over juy n half the people that have children are
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on medicaid. How y'all gonna have these kids? Y'all gonna
be in the er. That ain't gonna work. E. Then
my husband used to work in the er. It's already
over saturated. Right. A lot of these hospitals in the
rural areas are gonna close. They're gonna close down, They're
already closing. Right. So the answer is, and I get
your ploy, and I'm very sensitive to it. I understand you.
But I'm telling you, people are sick, they're broke, they're hungry,
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and that's why I'm running for Congress to bring humanity. Now,
bring humanity back.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's it, ladies and gentlemen. I've been sitting here with
doctor Heavenly, honey. Please make sure that when it's time
to vote.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
When when we can May May.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's gonna be May twenty six for the primary. So
make sure y'all check that out. I'm in District thirteen
in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
District thirteen.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, May of twenty twenty, that's the primaries. Yes, the
primary is May of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Vote Heavenly, doctor Heavenly for Congress.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I say Heavenly for co because she's bringing humanity back.
Ain't that something? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, And I got the voice and the reach to
do it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Listen and I do two.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
So you and we together what we what were doing tomorrow? Ah, maddie?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Were we doing something? You're getting an award or something
this week? Something doing this awards? Something doing we bringing humanity?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's right, ladies and gentlemen. It has been an Outlaws podcast. Honey.
We love you so much, Doctor heaven To thank you
for coming through. And you got my vote. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I appreciate your endorsement as well. Radio I Side. Let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Let me give you four to dollars back round.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
From the Outlaws podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Child and today, I have a woman who is not
only my good Judy, she is a good dentist.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She is a raped wife, wife, mother, mother, entrepreneur, entrepreneur,
and now and now she is running for Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You asked, House of Representative ladies, will please put y'all
hands together for my sister, my friend, doctor Heavenly Himes. Yes,
doctor heaven that's me. So, so I know where you're from.
Can you tell us where you're from?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, you know, I'm from Miami, the bottom, the bottom,
Carol City, by way of over Town, Liberty City, Carol City,
Scott Lake, all of that, Miami born and raised, born
and raised in Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, okay, And so what got you into being a dentist.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like I said my mama. My mama told me from
the time I was very little. You know, the older
generation thinks that being a doctor is everything. You're going
to be a doctor. You're going to be a doctor.
You're going to be a doctor. That was instilled in
me from time I was I was four years old.
So I used to see My mom used to say,
you're gonna be a pediatrician. I couldn't even say a pediatrician.
And then I realized I didn't like kids like that, so,
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well do you like kids? Now? I like my kids,
you know, but sometimes but I felt like that wasn't
the career for me. So I wanted to do dentistry
because I wanted to be a wife. I wanted to
be a mother. I wanted to set my own hours.
I wanted to be able to work when I wanted
to work. So I wanted a lifestyle that I could
do and not be on call, not be you know
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what I'm saying. And so I without a dentistry, Well,
what made you want to be a wife and a mother?
I just always wanted that. I wanted a man and
I wanted kids. That's what I wanted, not nobody else's
kids but my own.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Now, you know, I had debate people all the time,
especially the men that I'm around. M hm, debate okay,
that usually women are bred to be wives and mothers. Yeah,
because that's a woman's god. They want to they want to.
Women dream about the wedding dress that they're gonna pick
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out out to walk down the island. And they also
dream about my first kid, what is his or her
name gonna be. I hope he looks like his mom,
and I hope he looks like his dad's.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Oh. I hope that if I have a daughter, she
looks like me.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yes, they think about the clothes, and I get argue
down so much about how that's not true. And every
time that the opportunity presents itself for me to say gotti,
I do it to every nigga that I talk to, Okay,
because it's like it's like when we're debating, because we
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get into this.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Thing about.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
How much, you know, men and women are on equal
playing fields when it comes to cheating and all that
type stuff, and I'm like, no, no, no no no
no no no.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No no no no no no no, you don't want
to have that conversation with me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Men and women are completely different on the playing field
when it comes to cheating. Absolutely, women are because we
live in a patriarchal society. Men can get away with
complete being exactly who they are, and women have been.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Instilled, it has been instilled in women to be wives
and mothers. Women want to be a wife and a mother.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Lay back.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I had to crack my bag because I'm always I'm
always right all the time, all the time. So you
became a wife, you became a mother, you became a dentist.
And you didn't just become any dentist. You became a
dentist in Atlanta. What brought you to Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, long story short. My husband he matched in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He did family medicine right for three years he was
a resident and I was working as an associate doctor.
He did family medicine, but he wanted to do emergency medicine.
So Emory accepted him into their emergency medicine school downtown Atlanta.
And so I came with my man.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So did you meet him in Miami?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, no, no, I met him in dental school. We
met in Nashville, Tennessee, oh Nashville. He went to Case
Western Reserve. He was from He was from Vineland, New Jersey.
I was from Miami, Florida. He said he had never
seen this many black people in his life because we
went to an HBCU, which is Mahary Medical College. And
he said he was gonna find his wife here, and
when he saw me, he knew I was it. So
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that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And then you put that scorpion on him.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, I put that Miami scorpions scorpion.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You had stung it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
A hot steak. Hot fire got him, gott he got him?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And did you hear?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Then?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now there's two doctors married, And how many children do
you have?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now? I have three children. I have Damon Junior, I
have Zachary, and I have my baby girl on Laura.
She's nineteen now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, so I met all your kids. She had two
sons and a daughter. And you are you breeding your
sons to be dentists or doctors.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My middle boy, Zachary is actually in dental school right now.
He's in his second years Mahary Medical College. So I'm
breeding him to take over my practice. I will when
I win. When I win, I will take office in
twenty twenty seven, and my son will be able shortly
after to take over my practice.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I'm have a call up to the office and
let him do it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It'll be smiled by not to Heavenly and zach and
doctor Zachary.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yes, so I have to call out they let him
do my little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I don't him, Yes, talk to him. I will.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I know that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So, so now we're here at this space and you
you got on. I'd like to know, because I'm taking
a step by step.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Because I step, I'm gonna get to how you take
your time? We you got on? How did you get
on reality television?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know what? I never never thought I would ever
be on reality TV. My opportunity presented itself. I don't
know if y'all know Mariah Hook and Toya Bush Harris.
Toya husband actually worked with my husband in the er,
and uh, they called me one day. I was in Rome,
Italy and Toya say, hey, we're doing a pilot for
a reality TV show. And I say, yeah, everybody in
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Atlanta doing that. You know what, I'm saying, but I
actually he did the pilot the first season. Decided not
to do the show because I had nine practices right,
and I was like, this is gonna negatively infect affect
my practices, So I didn't. They called me back the
next year. The next year, I actually got to see
the show and I knew it was two million viewers.
Two million viewers, so I was thinking about my marketing
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process there. But also they had to fight the first season,
so that was also a reason for pause. I ended
up joining the show the second season and been there's
ever since and we just filmed finished filming season twelve.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, I was I'm on this season. I think, Yeah,
you are you?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are you extet?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I was on.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was on the last season, the season before, and
every time they have a season, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They yes, Ts, they called me for you, They say, hey,
can Ts film with you today? Can Ts? Can we
get Tia? But you be so busy A lot of
times we can't get you when we do it all cast.
But we thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But I thank you for having me. I thank you
for always looking out for me. I think I thank
you for that you've repaired my teeth. Yes, you've repaired
my mother's teeth. Yes, my mother has a beautiful smile.
We're gonna let you do the bottom of it too.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know, I got to save up a lot of money.
You're worth every dime.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I know that's right. Thank you for saying that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'd like for people to know that you're worth every day.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Smiles by doctor
Heavily dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I love you too.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
How did you get into this area of this life
where you are right now? Because right now you're running
for us hungred.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, yes, yes, long story short. I went down down
to pick up an award, a good citizen award down
there in the Capitol Building. Everybody that a lot of
people down there knew me. They you know, were taking pictures.
And one lady said, would you run for office? I laughed,
I laughed. I said, do you know who I am?
She said I do. I said, do you know what
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I do on TV? She said, and do? And that's
why they need you down there on you know, in
government in the Capitol Building. I said no. Initially, in fact,
I said hell no. I went back. They told me
to talk to a few people, and I did. They
told me why they needed somebody with a wide voice,
with the resources, with the reach for office. And I
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thought about it. I see my people need me now.
I have been giving back to my community and I
will continue to give back to my community. But I
prayed about it. I fasted for three days and God
put something on my heart to do it and I
and I went from hell no to God, why me?
To I am so excited that God chose me for
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this task. So God can change your feelings about certain things.
And I'm ready for the task. D to heavenly for Georgia,
dor heavenly for Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So what is your first plan of action when you
win my platform?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
First of all, we have so much going on in
my community that people are not being heard. In fact,
we talked about it. A lot of people are not
even voting because they feel like they're doesn't matter because
people don't think that people care. First of all, I
will promise the people that you will get the truth
from me. I do not have any big machines behind me.
All I want to do is help the people and
speak up for the people, my family, my community, and
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the decisions we make will not just affect our community,
but the communities around us, the state, and probably the
whole United States. But my platform, what you ask me,
has to be health care. We see too many people
without health care. Even when they talk about Medicaid, medicare.
Even the people that are not on medicating and medicare,
we have people in the gaps. Insurance is high. The
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first rule of business that expand Medicaid Medicare, but lower
the costs of medical insurance got to be right. Okay, schools,
I'm big on education. I can go on and on
ts medical education, education, education, education. At this point, our
schools in our district are not up to part and
I have so many ideas to help the school system.
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And sometimes the answer is just not to throw more
money at them. Sometimes the answer is to make them
more competitive to each other and actually educate the people
from the school board own down. You know what I'm saying.
I do.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, you know where you are in this current regime
that we're and you're in my district, yeah, in Conyers.
You know where you are in this current regime, and
you know the pushback that you might receive, yes from
the current president that we have in office. Yes, they
want to dismantle the Department of Education, which is something
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that you absolutely you're running to clean up education.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And also you are in the healthcare.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Because you know, I do believe that dentistry, especially cosmetic dentistry,
is a part of gender affirming care. Yes, all of
that stuff is being challenged right now currently in the administration.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So you don't think that this is going to be
like an extreme challenge.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think that a lot of people ask me, heavenly,
are you ready to fight this challenge? Why would you
be ready? Why would you want to fight this? I
think a lot of times we think that we're not
in war. We're already in war, whether we choose to
fight or not. I see this knocking at my door,
and I have a platform and I'm willing to use
it to help the people in my community and my
family and the people I know. So this is a
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great task. T s madisone. It is, but I'm here
for it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm excited about it. Actually it's gonna be a battle.
It is because you're a democrat, right, I.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Am absolutely a democrat. And the thing about it, a
lot of people say reality TV is the negative. No,
it trained me for this. I'm ready. I have the voice,
I have the reach. I'm not afraid, and you know,
and I don't care really what people say. We have
an agenda and we need to push forth that agenda
to help our people.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I believe that, but I know that currently right now,
I'm looking at how the Coke Country is being dismantled,
like their country is being dismantled piece by piece, especially
the way that they are going completely against the constitution.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, they are, they are. They are.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So all the things that you're standing for and that
you're coming in and finding for, and that you have
the voice of.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The people for that's going to be a very tough thing.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No doubt about it. And I'm built for that. That's
why I'm here.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I'm built for it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You understand what I'm saying. I'm telling you that, Yes,
there are a lot going There's a lot going on
right now, and sometimes you have to expose everything and
tear it up before you start rebuilding it and putting
it back together the right way. So sometimes you have
to just expose it. I think we have the reach,
we have the voice, we have the resources to bring
back to the community. And you know, I'm big on
not just waiting for the government to help our people, right,
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but coming up with ideas where we can help ourselves.
For example, if I open a Medicaid office in Rockdale
County or in the district somewhere, right, I can get
a whole lot of dentists to volunteer if you will there.
Just based on my platform, I can say, hey, you
know what, I got millions of followers on social media,
if you come here, because everybody wants something, you know,
for exchange, if you come here, will promote your business
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like I do. Smile by Doctor Heavenly and they'll come.
I know them based on you know, we can help
each other. My husband is a physician, so we can
do all kinds of medical and you know, and events
and drives to help the people in every way. We
know a lot of people, we have a lot of resources,
and we're ready to put them at work for this district.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I know, Doctor Heavenly, But what about the the way
that that they're cutting all this they're cutting Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
They are they are and people will die, yes, and
will die. We're seeing the effects of it right now.
My husband tells me that the older people or even
younger can't get their Medicaid medication, meaning that if you
have diabetes or some other kind of ailment right now,
not even when this bill is finished passing. Of course,
hospitals have closed and will continue to close, especially in
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the rural areas, but they're not getting their medication right now.
So these people are going to die. And we cannot
leave our people behind, the elderly, the less, the unfortunate,
the less. You know, And I'm winning to fight. I'm
willing to do what I can. I can use my voice,
I can use my intellect right and make some changes.
I don't want to just be down there talking. I
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don't want to do that. I want to actually pass policy.
So I understand how you have to reach across the
house and be be be friendly with the people and
and and work together at some point.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But how do we combat something like that? It sounds
like that you would.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Have You know why you're thinking that. Let me give
you an answer to that. You're thinking what your carnal mind? Listen,
I'm thinking. I'm speaking spiritually. I'm gonna come in there
and and and and spiritually. God has called me to
do this for real. I ain't even playing with y'all.
God has called, So it's going to change because we're
gonna bring I think God is pulling people from unexpected places.
You understand, I'm the least likely you would think that
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would run for Congress right list, And we have a
lot of sisters and a lot of bad sol that
are coming together and hopefully I can inspire others to
come forward because these jobs don't pay a lot of money.
They don't pay a lot of money. A lot of
people feel like and basically I hate to say that
they getting what they're paying for. You see what I'm saying.
So we need the people that can step up, step
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out in spite of you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I do, but I'm just thinking about because I know
I'm looking at it every single day. I see something new,
something heinous, being done to the less fortunate people. And
as a person that's gonna be running for office and
that will win because you know, as a person that's
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doing this, you gotta come in and with some like
I know that you say you're coming with the spiritual mind, but.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You got to come in and be like, damn this.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
They are really making my job difficult because if Medicaid
is paying for the doctors to do all the stuff
that people need.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This means that.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Everybody's gonna have to become selfless and start working on
people and helping people without being paid for medicaid.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think that there is a in between. I think
that we can demand, we can get people together, doctors, physicians,
then to selike to actually demand that they expand medicaid,
not just statewide because it is state wide program, but
put more federal funds into these programs. I think that
that can happen. I think it will happen. I think
it has to happen. But they need people that are
not afraid to speak up and speak out. And I know,
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you know people talk about reading and doing all that,
knowing any of time to read. Is it time to
shake things up and be heard so we can actually
bring about a real change for real, Like this ain't
no joke, t is. I wouldn't even do it if
I wasn't serious about it.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I've seen the shift of you since the third first
day that you announced that you were doing it. Absolutely,
I've seen the shift like you very I can't play
no more. I've been playing on social media.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I've been playing on reality TV, but now it's trying
to get real seriously as medicine. So have you have you?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's a question that I don't because I.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Ask it, Boot, I'm gonna answer, have you Yes, I
don't know. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, it's about the way that people have already got
this perception about you. I love you because I know
I know what the perception is that I know how
the people treat you to have to receive you.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You from Miami. Yes, we read to the floor. Yes,
and we are your mamma in a heartbeat. Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
How do you how are you going to navigate or
how do you navigate around? Because you've had eight seasons
actually eleven.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
We're in season twelve right now.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I came in on the second season, but I was
a friend in the first season.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Or yes, so you've been there for nine season.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I've been there eleven season. Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, Well you have eleven seasons of people that have
been like I love that, I love her, and then
eleven seasons of people mmm, like uh, but they know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Me, they know me, right, that's just like with anything.
Thirty three percent of that people can't stand you. Thirty
three percent of love your dirty draws thirty three percent.
Don't give a damn one way the other. Right, all
I need is fifty plus one, fifty percent plus one.
I've done the numbers and we're gonna make that happen.
I know my win number and we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
How how have you been? Have you been door to door?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Not yet, it's not time for that. Actually, we're kind
of early. We're kind of early on. Our election is
not until May of twenty twenty six, so we're early.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm early.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm getting in early, yes, ma'am. We're putting the word
out there.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And so your campaign manager.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, miss Watt wh Yes, I actually have a whole team.
I have a political team that works with high profile
politicians and we have a whole thing put together. But yes,
mss Quad is out front. She's my girl. I trust
her and I know she's putting a heart and her
soul into what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What made you choose Quad as a as a campaign manager?
You want the real answer? I do.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I trust her first and foremost. She is my friend. Secondly,
we on reality TV, so I felt like we could
get more camera time and she would push forward the
agenda she knows what this is, and she knows that.
I like bad sisters. I don't like no slow sisters.
I don't like no dumb sisters. I like bad sisters.
They can push their agenda to understand what this is
and how important it is to not just our people,
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but the people all around us, not just our district,
but for the state and for the United States. Since
you major announcement for this for your run, overwhelming support,
That's what I want to overwhelming support. I mean, we
get some negative, but my positive people shut them down.
We dare you talk about a black educated woman who's
trying to help her community. Why would you do that
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when your president has not only he has to set
the standards, because the standard should be much higher. However,
I remember listening to uh was it Jamal Bryant, right,
And I'm just giving this as an example. He said,
you know what, people are always asking how much does
Krefflo dollar make? How much did Eddie Eddie Long make?
How much does Jamal Bryant make? You never asked what
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Stanley Stanley, Uh, what's his name? Stanley, Charles Stanley, President
Preacher Charles. You don't ask about those people. You don't
ask about Joel Olstein and how much he makes.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But we saw the money in the wall down there.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
But you woult's see that. But my whole thing is
we're out front for certain things, and our people would
judge us harder than anyone else. But let's look at
the opposition, right, and we're ready, and you know, if
we're there, we ten times better, were ten times more qualified.
Do you want to hear how I'm qualified? Because I
can tell you that too.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'd like to know.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, listen, I built businesses, right, I've done payroll right.
The whole purpose of this job is to control money.
They give you a budget for your district in order
to decipher that money out to make sure you can
stretch it as long long as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So you're giving me a civics one on one right now.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Absolutely, I can tell you the three branches of government.
I'm gonna tell you what they are. They're the executive branch, right,
that's the president, his cabinet is vice president. Right. Then
there's the legislative branch, which I will be a part of.
There's Congress, House of Representatives and the senators right, and
then there's this judicial branch that's supposed to interpret the
laws right, supposed to right, and we're not following things.
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But the thing's gotta fall in place. You know what
I'm saying. If you look at the Bible, we will win.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Just know that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So don't even worry about don't question him. I remember
talking to Al Sharpton when he came on our show.
A lot of people give up, but you can't give up.
You got to keep the hope alive and keep going.
We've been we've been fighting for how long. We know
how to fight. We know how to do it since
Charlie Chisholm fighting. How they said the audacity of a
black woman to run for president? And she got so far,
she got so far, And a lot of people say, heavenly,
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how are you coming in this by yourself? I like
to quote the great Maya Angelo, come on, quote I
am not by myself. I'm with the thousands of my
answers that fought for me to be here, that are
right here with me today. So spiritually I'm here. I'm
ready to yes, Madison, and I ain't playing with the people.
I see you very passionate.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Absolutely, I see the passion. I feel it's oozing through
over here. To me, what brought about this change?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I told you when people, when people asked me to run,
Initially I didn't want to do it. God put this change.
That's the only ans I could give you, because there
wasn't no other reason. And the switch to Congress was
when I announced it, I got so much overwhelming support, clergy,
preachers of my colleagues, entertainers asking me, Heavenly, you need
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to broaden your horizon. Okay, the state is is, but
you could do Congress and actually bring all these resources
from Washington. Actually be a bridge from Washington to your district.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Right, Okay, hold the line, Hold the line, hold the line.
Initially you were just running for state.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Let me give you a difference. State is over the
state that okay. The head of the state representative would
be the governor, right, a governor, and then you got
your state representatives, and you got your state senators. Right.
I think in Georgia there are one hundred and eighty
state representatives and fourteen state senators. Right. The government so
it's run just like the federal government, but on the
state level. Right, So in the US Congress, you have
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your president that's over the state Senators. There's two per state,
which is one hundred total, and there's four hundred and
thirty five US congresswomen meaning US House of Representatives. There, right,
that's where I will be out of the four thirty
five right, and they actually they actually make the laws.
We push policy in legislation, so change things.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You went from state to Congress. It's Congress, Yes to Washington, DC.
Since the last time that I've seen you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, Yes, that's right. You got it, You got it,
you got it. We got overwhelmed support. So many people
asked me and I went through the same thing. Listen,
I gotta wait on God. I gotta wait on God.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I did.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And you know, I'm gonna tell you this, and I
don't even know if I should say this, but I'm
gonna say it. So many people asked me to run
for Congress. I was like, Nah, I'm gonna sit right
here because I know what this is and I can
stay here or whatever. And I knew my husband. I said,
my husband ain't gonna let me go to d C.
He ain't gonna do that. How am I gonna do this?
How am I gonna take this? How am I gonna
do this? God? Put it on my heart and I
said it while I was filming. I said, Daddy, I
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was initially asked to run for Congress, but I knew
you wouldn't let me go to d C. He said,
why did you think that? He said, if God got
a calling for you, I have no choice but to
help you and be behind you in every way. Right.
So then after that people kept it. I said, Lord,
what you want me to do? Jesus God, I surrender
my life to you. That's when I started having all
these attacks against me, my family. You know, my son
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got arrested, all these different things, and y'all gonna see
a player. I don't married to medicine, but I'm like, God,
what you want. And then this lady gave me a
book by Priscilla Shriver and it's called Put On the
Full Armor of God. And they explained to me, when
you're trying to do something great, the devil doesn't come
for empty vaults. He comes at you with everything he got.
And I knew at that point, I can't stop. I
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can't stop. I can't stop.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's insane that from the last time I've seen you,
you went from state.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To help it more people now understand it's the same district.
I'll be able to help the same dishcy. It's the same,
it's just more people. For example, state may be seventy
seventy four thousand people, right the US House is seven
hundred and fifty four thousand people. So it's a larger number,
very much larger. But the interesting thing is in our district,
the problem is many of us don't vote, and the
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primaries less than twenty percent of our population vote.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I've been asking questions, me and Freddio been out here
asking a question of people. Say they don't think we're
being heard. We don't think that it matters, we don't
think that the government cares. I think they're gonna do
what they want to do anyway. And my answer to
that is they wouldn't be doing all they doing is
your vote didn't care, they wouldn't be doing all the
jerry mandering and the line and the cheat and they're
doing right now, right if your vote didn't care, your
vote didn't matter. It's so much going on. So my
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whole thing is you need the people to stand up
and stand out, not just the talk, but actually make
policy happen. I'm not the one person that's gonna be
hollering out there. No, that's not me. I'm smart, I'm calculated.
I'm structured to the point where we're gonna give some
policies passed, and we're gonna pray. We're gonna meditate and
expose people and explain to them why you're wrong, not
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expose them in a sense that put them out there,
coach straight to them. And you say you're a Christian?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right I am?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I know. I'm saying, when we get to the people,
you tell you a Christian, how can you do this?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You see what I just said.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I am right, I believe it. I've separated myself from
the aspect of real religion. I'm more into a relationship
that I have with God. But I just said, when
you say, you say you're a Christian, I said, I am.
What's your what's your what is your what's your pitch
to them?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
After that?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My pitch is you know right from wrong, you know
good from bad. If you read any part of that Bible,
does it say that you and doesn't it say that
you're supposed to take care of the week and the poor.
That's our foundation, our country was founded on Christianity, So
if y'all could get back to that, no, yes, no, yes, yes,
the principles of Christianity. Yes, no, yes. Now, don't get
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me wrong. People have suffered, bred and dyed to believe
what they want to believe. Right, But good is good
and bad is bad.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yes, good is good and bad is bad. But if
we get into the subject of if we I believe
heavily in a separation of church and state.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I agree with you. I agree with you one hundred percent.
But if I'm looking at these Republicans and they say
they're Christians, how dare you say you can do these things.
I'm not saying that everybody has to be a Christian.
I am. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I
believe them with all my heart. But this country was
founded on You believe what you want to believe, You
live how you want to live, you love who you
want to live, You do what you want to do.
But at the end of the day, they singing in
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christian if you're Christian and you understand that we're supposed
to take care of our people, yeah, I'm not exposed them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, but then we cherry picked the things, because that's
what they do exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Because this this, this last campaign was was ran heavily
on targeting trans people.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh lord, let's get to that. Let's get to it.
Let's get to it. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
This last, this last thing was it was heavily targeted
on trans people.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And why I mean, but the things they asked me,
They even asked me that the the launch, Heavenly, what
do you think about trans being in sports? And I'm
thinking it's layered.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You don't have the full answer. I don't have the
full answer, And I'm trans it is layered because there's
so many things that need to be measured. One we
don't even have we don't have our own It's not
a large percentage of us. There's five hundred thousand athletes
and I think eight eight or nine or eight or
(30:10):
nine of them are trands, right.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
The percentages are very low.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's low.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So why is this even a topic of common? That
was what I was gonna say, you cutting me off.
I was thinking, like, I don't want to say the
wrong thing, but it's not it's not that many. Why
would you ask me that first? When there's people out
here hungry, my my campaign. I'm saying that why they're
asking me that when that is important. Don't get me wrong,
that's important everyone's But why is it important?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because they're they're they're screaming about protect women, right, and
everything is about protect women. But these are the same
men that are making laws on women's body, on having
and on having not a single woman in the room, yes,
on having governed being able to govern women's bodies.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So this whole thing is twisted, doctor, Heavenly, it is twisted,
and it's it's it's all cherry picked, and it's all
for patriarchy, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And when I say it's important, I mean that in
a sense that everybody's important. However, that's a small percentage.
Look at the percentage of people that don't have food,
that are not on they're getting their snap benefits. They
used to call it food stands before they EBP, but.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Heavily people knew that. People see that.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But the way that the campaign was ran, they made
us as public enemy number one. They made us public
enemy number one. And by making us public enemy number one,
they were able to garner votes from people who are Christian,
from people who I love the Lord, I don't like
them the Lord said all of them is abomination, and
(31:49):
all in the same breath, not really paying attention to
the real monster that was standing in front of them,
and the real monster was taking away food from their kids.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
The real monster was taking away health.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Care, education, education leads in.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That the real monster was dismantling all of the civil rights,
or attempting to dismantle all of the civil rights that
the Constitution was amended for for minority people.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And they fused one group of people.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
One because they knew that people feared that, They knew
that people that would be something that they could bring together,
which wasn't a really big topic, but they felt like
a lot of people would be against it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's why they were. And they were against it because
they made us out to be.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't think they understand it. Yes, well they didn't
because they don't want to, right. I agree, they don't
want to understand it. And they they they made us
out to be monsters. They made us out to be
predators of children. They made us out to be separating
us from women, especially the trans women. They made us
(33:05):
enemies with women, like you are invading women's spaces.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And they use the sports.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
To blow it up, you would think, because the average person,
doctor Hevley, is not running around here looking at the
numbers of people playing sports. They hear men against women right,
men against women, And it's just like, when you really
break it down, it's eight people, six five, maybe it's
(33:35):
eight people amongst five hundred thousand people. But because you
were able to zero in and home in on a
specific group of people, you made these people, You made us.
You took the humanity from us and made it like
we don't have a right to live in this country
(33:55):
or have any rights in this country. Or there's only
two genders it's male and female. Is this It's just
like it's just like I, because I am trans and
your friend I sat back and watched the government single
handedly destroyed so many other vulnerable groups of people, and
(34:18):
those same vulnerable groups of people assisted in their own
destruction because it's something that they didn't understand and something
that they were led by Christianity to do. So, as
my congresswoman, I need you to bring humanity back.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Absolutely absolutely, no one person should be singled out for
their race, for their gender, for anything right, and I
believe that that's not a part of my legislation because
that's already passed. But what is is that education, that healthcare,
making sure everybody can come home safely, through police reform
(34:58):
and through the economy, make getting money back to the community.
Because oh that's important. Your topic is important. Everybody's topic
is important.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But well, what heavenly we all tie into that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You know why they went after at medicaid and Medicare
and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It was cheap enough.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
They went after stuff for gender affirming care. I was
gonna say that gender affirming care. No, no, no, not
help me with this because I just don't know. And
and this might be I may have you to cut
this out because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
If you go to jail right and you don't get
your gender affirming care, what happens. I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I never stayed in jail long enough. I mean, I
haven't been to jail, but I I ain't stayed jail
long enough. Do you do you what gender firming care?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Turn back to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Let me tell you what gender affirming care.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Is not inappropriate to ask, because you know.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The world what gender affirming care is breast augmentation. Okay,
because teeth, anything that helps you.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And women.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And here's the thing what's so crazy about it. Everybody
gets gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay, let's talk about that for a minute. Let's start
right there. When you say gender affirming care, are you
saying for the insurances to pay for it? Because I
will tell you this, the insurance doesn't pay for cosmetic dentistry.
It does not pay for breast augmentation unless there's some
kind of disease on there. So if you're saying gender
firma care to do something cosmetic, then that's something different, right,
(36:32):
But you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I know, but but gender affirming care is everybody gets it.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
And so they were really heavy on trans people doing
the gender firmic care, and it helped the people vote
against themself instead of them being educated on girl, you
can't just get up and go have a sex change
without going through without going through psychological situations and stuff
like that. It's just so much, so many layers of
(37:00):
stuff that people should have been should have been educated
on that you are a part of running for bringing
education back.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Why are they trying to remove of studies and like
queer studies and black studies in the same thing, wrapping
that stuff up in the same type of situation.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I don't want you to end.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm just trying to say they trying to move cancer studies.
People are dying. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I get what you're saying, and that show plight and
I get it. However, people are dying. They removing cancer studies,
they weren't the studies for high blood pressure, for kidneys
and everything like that. But what I'm telling you is
not finna kill.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Nobody doctor heamally.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
What I'm telling you is they use us as deploy
to deflect all of that that they're doing. And the
people were voting in that space because they're the main
focus was we were the political ploy use this to
blind them while we do all this, and they help
(38:02):
us do this because they're uneducated on the girls, they're
uneducated on the gay They're uneducated. So if we can
use these people as a ploy, we can get them
all because we know that they all hate this, and
in their hate for this, we gonna be able to
cut around everything they need. So the focus needs to
(38:24):
be on humanity as where everybody is a human being
and everybody needs these basic essentials to survive.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
We need education, we need health care, we need food.
We need food, and we need police reform. We need
to be able to live in our communities. We do
and know that the pas for us and not against them.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Take the focus off of this right and bring the
focus on we're all human, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And that's what I'm doing, is Congress, God They're heavenly
for Congress this year thirteen, We're gonna focus on the
things that really matter that affect everybody. Right, your grandmamaa
need that medicaid, medicare. I'm telling you a great percentage
of the the the clinics for or the places for
over juy n half the people that have children are
(39:10):
on medicaid. How y'all gonna have these kids? Y'all gonna
be in the er. That ain't gonna work. E. Then
my husband used to work in the er. It's already
over saturated. Right. A lot of these hospitals in the
rural areas are gonna close. They're gonna close down, They're
already closing. Right. So the answer is, and I get
your ploy, and I'm very sensitive to it. I understand you.
But I'm telling you, people are sick, they're broke, they're hungry,
(39:32):
and that's why I'm running for Congress to bring humanity. Now,
bring humanity back.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's it, ladies and gentlemen. I've been sitting here with
doctor Heavenly, honey. Please make sure that when it's time
to vote.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
When when we can May May.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's gonna be May twenty six for the primary. So
make sure y'all check that out. I'm in District thirteen
in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
District thirteen.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, May of twenty twenty, that's the primaries. Yes, the
primary is May of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Vote Heavenly, doctor Heavenly for Congress.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I say Heavenly for co because she's bringing humanity back.
Ain't that something? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, And I got the voice and the reach to
do it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Listen and I do two.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
So you and we together what we what were doing tomorrow? Ah, maddie?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Were we doing something? You're getting an award or something
this week? Something doing this awards? Something doing we bringing humanity?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's right, ladies and gentlemen. It has been an Outlaws podcast. Honey.
We love you so much, Doctor heaven To thank you
for coming through. And you got my vote. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I appreciate your endorsement as well. Radio I Side. Let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Let me give you four to dollars back round.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Outlaws is a production of The Outspoken Network from iHeart
Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment. Created by Tyler Rabinowitz and
Olivia Piece. I'm your host, Tis Madison. We are executive
produced by Tyler Rebnowitz, Maya Howard and Tis Madison. Our
supervising producer is Jessica cry and our producers are Joy
(40:58):
Pat and Common Wrong. Our video editor is Tyler Rebinowitz
and our sound editor is Just Crinchin. Our associate producer
is Trent high Tower Special thanks to our producer's.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Assistant, Daniel rebino Witz. Our theme song is composed by
Wazi merrit. Our show art is by Pablo Martine. Got
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