August 26, 2025 • 39 mins
We’ve got a true queer power couple in the studio today: THE Raven-Symoné and Miranda Maday, co-hosts of the hit podcast Tea Time! Raven’s been in the spotlight since diapers, but don’t get it twisted – Miranda is every bit a powerhouse herself, with an Emmy to boot.
Nothing’s off-limits in this conversation. We’re tackling the biggest (and girthiest) questions about strap-ons: Raven wants to know, why pink? Madison counters, why not? And are “flesh-tone” strap-ons outdated—or still the ultimate hipwear??
Raven gets candid about growing up under the Disney microscope, the pressures around gender identity and presentation, and how meeting Miranda changed everything. In just 38 minutes, this episode covers so much ground—from why entertainers get paid so much, to what it’s like navigating private pain while in the public eye, to why the powers-that-be are so terrified of social media. And of course, what it actually means to represent the LGBTQ+ community (or as they call it: the Labiquita!) as public figures.
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every time I open up, my mouth up and goes out.
Don't wait, no, wind yourself, bitch, get a job ricking honey,
Rick hod More, he Chase, I'm black like that. He
(00:33):
sbout living. It's color easy. This is Outlaws with tears medicine.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Is it on? Honey? Is this thing recording what's up
to the lands all across the land? This is your
grow teas medicine. I'm coming to you loud, live and always.
I'm the forever in the color from the Outlaws podcast.
And bitch, let me tell you something. The Outlaws Podcast
is a show where the people come on here who
are the thing of the thing. Oh, not just that
(01:06):
they've done something, said something been something that does got
them outlawed, honey. But one thing about Outlaw We're always wanted, dude,
Ladies and gentlemen. It is my esteem, honor and pleasure
to have here on my show today the legendary legendarian
Raven Simonier, oh and her wife Veranda Simonier.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'll take it, I'll take.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Thank you for having us on.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, thank you for doing you know, listen, you are
a legend. And then you know y'all have been together
how long have y'all been together? I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We will be married five years in June. Known each
other for ten yeah, five years?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So okay, y'all have known each other for ten years
and then you got married and I'll be married for
five years.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We got married during COVID and we have been strong since,
started a podcast, started a production company, just got a house.
And during that ten years of knowing each other, we
dated for a few months and then more.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Than a few months, I think like eight months, eight.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Months, okay, what was two months off?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And just and we I'm just I got it. I
got the year written on me, so I'll never forget
the year. And that's what we need to just worry
about the year.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What made you want to get married?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
A couple of reasons for me, and I'm sure her
reasons are different because we have different backgrounds. Whatever. For me,
like taxes, period, taxes, security, knowing that I have a
woman by my side that I can share my money with,
and I know that she can't run off without consequence.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Wait a minute, hold on, I'm mess because.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
She's very practical.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Listen, listen, you don't want to wear it's going to
cost us a whole bunch of money for you to
go somewhere. Know, if I'm dating you, you can get
all the presents. You could just leave whatever you want to.
But I don't want to do that for her. I
want to share my life, and I want to share
my wealth, and I want to share my work and success.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What just so much sharing of money?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Did you just are you just not signing this out?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes? I don't know the reasons were sharing money? No scends.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I can look at them hands and I know exactly
who bought them. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She's jeweled.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm jeweled, but I bought my own jewels.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That's what my love hers is mine?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, j Low, But seriously, it's marriage is a practical sense.
In that theory, I would have been with her without
marrying her, if you know, I wasn't inundated with society's
necessaries to kind of function.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In and since I didn't need Raven's money, I married
her for love.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
That's not the question.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well why did I get married? No, Like, you.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Could still love me without getting married. Kurt Douglass and
that other one that he's been with since nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Eighty two Goldie Han.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, they never got married.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
This is true.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And they had the daughter, Kate Hudson.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, but she's not. That's just Goldie's daughter, not his
biological daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Does.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, her father's last name is Hudson.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That makes sense, that does.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But I thought she just didn't want the Han because
of Goldie's success and she wanted to be an actress.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So she made up Hudson. No, her dad is somebody,
but he didn't really raise her. He wasn't present in
her life. But she kept his Yeah, exactly, Kurt. She
calls Kurt papa. I think papa.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know that's her nickname, Biggie, not big Pop.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold up, wait a minute. Ship,
this is moving quick.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, so she got it tatted.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I literally have. I would stand up right now and
show you it's a tramp stamp on my back, biggie.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's also why she married me.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Oh yeah, there's now. If you're talking about why I
married her because of Miranda, we can get into a
whole other conversation. But I know that the original question
was what made marriage?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is true. I I veered us.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm sorry, it's okay, because you're taking me in so
many directions that I want to go. So you have Biggie,
you have so you say it's a tramp stamp on
your base, it's Biggie.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, why yeah? So it is my nickname. And
around the age I think of six or seven, I
had a younger sister who could not still still has
I still yes, I still have a younger sister. So,
but I meant like she was a lot born. She
came into the world at that time. Shit. So I
(06:07):
have a younger sister who had a hard time saying
Miranda when she was young. So for whatever reason, I
said to her, don't worry about it, call me Biggie,
and it's stuck. My sister Mimi, to this day still
calls me Biggie. I'm thirty seven. She's thirty one and
obviously can say Miranda, but I'm just Biggy.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Her mom calls her Biggie, her dad calls her biggie.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, my dad doesn't. He never He's never called me
Bill Miranda.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, Randa, Amanda, what Miranda?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But you said you're big?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Well I was going to say, like I'm gonna call
her Papa at home, that's not gone.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But but you, But you, she's big Papa energy for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Not me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
She's Daddy energy.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
In my own world, I'm just biggie, just cute biggie.
This is a biggie.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know I'm dead because I'm I'm I have questions.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I feel like you've rendered you speech. Listen. You've
probably never been speechless before in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, it's because I'm wanted the speech that I want
to say. I want to make sure that I said correctly.
What a strap? Ad you got the strap? You use
the strap? What's the stroup size? That motherfucker's scrappy?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Is that I'm courteous. I let her choose so that
I don't have any problem.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
But it can be a color.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Wait, wait a minute, So it's a it's like a blueberry.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It better not be so it has to be it
has to be skin tone, a skin tone. But she
can choose the she can choose the raven.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, ma'am, because I have a dick of my own yep.
And I know you've probably heard that. It's I was
big dick bitch at one point in my life. Yes,
I did. Okay, do you have it where you were.
(08:02):
If it's so like gifting you do I have it? One?
Do you have it where it's ribbed for your pleasure too?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I've used those, not a full fan because it moves
a lot and I don't need it. I don't need it.
There's a one thing I also love about Miranda that
I've never had with any of my other partners is
a mental connection that allows for a strap and a
(08:31):
non strap as well, and it feels the same either way.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So it's weird, do you You said it's weird.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, it's not in a bad way. It's just like
we have a really strong connection and we have a
really good sexual chemistry, so it works.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Really, that's another reason why I married her.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So when you look into her eyes and you tell her,
take this mother, do you do that?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
When you do it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do you do that? Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
My god? Again, I am very gentle with my wife
at times and most times. Most times, it takes a
consistent sexual pattern for it to get to there. But
(09:29):
we are kind of in that brain space where we
like to build tension over the course of time. So
it's not an aggressive release at first, but if we
do have a release, and then we start and it
kind of swirls into a week's worth of stuff. Then
we will get a little bit more aggressive as that goes.
(09:49):
But my wife is a beautiful princess, and I have
to be gentle sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, but I can. You do have the spirit of
take dic.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I do have that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I was, but we're not gonna talk about that, Okay,
we want she.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Was just gonna say I was raised by God.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
She said, I call that Disney ship this month.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No joke. And I have to say slow down. I
just say, I'm a real person.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yo, where are we?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's crazy? He's such a leo, such a li Listen,
this is the out lost pocket. This is why we
want I'm not the traditional like people. I want to
talk about all the greedy, greedy, the fun. Yeah, you
get so many podcasts where people just want so you know,
you were over this, and you know, and then Oprah
said this, and then you said this, and then we
(10:45):
have to I don't really give a funk about it
because you've talked about it fifty million times. I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We say this all the time. This is what we
try and do on our podcast. Too.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Should come, I will, but we agree. It's like, especially
in this industry to the point where we are the
same questions get asked over and over again. And this
is a different medium. This is not e news, this
is not you know, V one.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
O three different.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We've seen the stuff happen. We've seen it. You done
went through the backlash of the ship and you don't
cuss motherfuckers out about it, then you don't listen. I
don't want to go to a podcast where I have
to be like, yeah, I want to get to the
podcast and be like yeah, man, you know, yeah, I
want to have fun. That's what is that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's what you said, that's what you want to do. Yeah,
we're going dick. You wearing right now?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Tell me what is it? What's black? You should be
black like that caramel mocha A little bit in between
the times.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I agree, So I understand that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, the hyper paymentation.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So my thighs get a little, this, a little got.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
An extra tan there?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I get it. I got that from how much
the open no sun getting that bitious little?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You can sun it?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Have you sunned it? How do you say?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
My goodness, babes, tell them all that you just lay
outside and.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's fantastic. Naked naked and you just asked the son
to enter you. When I tell mother Nature, mother Nature
has a dick of her own and it'll come right
through you in the form of u V rays. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
We did.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We did it in the sand, we did it in
a in palms.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We did it in this I didn't actually you did.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I did.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was fantastic, was all about it. We were two
bunch of palms. She's like, I'm about to go sun
my volva.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
B r b b r b b r b b
r b b You do that, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, now we got about what, We're gonna get into
the trash. We're gonna go back to the trash. But
we have to do this at the top because it's
at the top of the can stop reminding me of it. Okay,
we gotta do this at the top of show. So
on the out Lost podcast, yes, we have a section
(13:05):
called talk your Ship. Okay, great, now it's time for
you to talk your ship. Who you are, what you do,
what are you proud of? Now? This is your time
to shine, so don't hold back. I'm a bit of
a narcissist, a little bit because I've done a lot
of things on this earth. And I brag about it.
(13:25):
I did it, and people don't like that. But on
this show, we love for people to come on and say,
I'm worth five hundred million dollars and I've had television shows,
I make television shows. I'm rich as fuck. We got it.
We we expound on this is we make people. We
(13:47):
like our hate watchers too.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I love them because they come in with the ships
they bring you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, tell us exactly who you are, how many Emmys, Grammys,
how much money you've made, how many TV shows. I
want you to just looking at him. My name is
and just say and this, and just talk your shit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Hey, what's up everybody? My name is Raven Simo and
Christina Pierman may Day. That's right, I have two hyphenated names.
I've been I've been famous since I was sixteen months old.
I have been on multiple TV shows that some are
no longer on the air they're so old. My residual
checks range from one penny to thousands of dollars. I
(14:27):
married a woman who has her own shit, who is
out here thriving, and all I have to do is
support her. It feels fantastic. I'm writing my memoir. I've
had my own television shows. I've employed thousands of people
of all different colors and genders and representation. And I
(14:48):
am stepping behind the scenes because I can. I've had
multiple albums, I too have an Emmy and multiple awards
that I display and some that I don't well, and
I have a Nickelodeon one and a t.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
R L Award then Nickelodeon Disney Award. You've what's the
one with the mouse?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Then that's not an award, is it? Anyway? I'm sorry anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I I don't have a good ship talking.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This is a leo.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm as sad, like you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Were really great.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I was really good.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I thought she was great.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
She was. I just wanted her to say also, and
I'm rich as fuck.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh yeah, I am rich as fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm for a long time now.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The way you say that it's so sexy I have.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That was a very denzelous Let me bring the purple
up for you tonight, did babe?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh wait, the purp, not the pink nah purple r.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
That man was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
See, let's talk about that. He was so pretty, you know.
Let's talk about gender non conforming gender, queer gender, gender that, Yeah,
start your pronouns.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
My pronouns are Raven and raven and that bitch. No,
I'm just playing. No, I don't really like it. I
don't really like the pronoun thing. I think it's weird
for me and I And since I choose raven as
my pronouns, I am nodding my head to those who
need that information and that validation as of right now
(16:21):
in the community that we live in, because it's so
new and I understand it. So instead of saying all
the things that we talk about at home, I'm just
gonna say I like Raven. I do feel very much
in the center of the spectrum when it comes to
presenting out in the world and thought processes. But I
don't really.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I try not to dive too much into it because
it can be a little polarizing at times, and I
know that there are a lot of generations that are
still catching up to this new generation and what they
need for validation. So I like to listen. I like
to try out the fence a little bit. Okay, I'm
not trying to get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
On your yas mass shit, because listen, but here we
can get in trouble because do your thing. So whatever,
you free listen and I saw you on Jason Lee
just recently. Shut up. He's dangerous, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, you're great.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'm very much so like, I don't want to get
you in no trouble. I just want you to free ball,
because that's free ball everywhere, the fun out exactly because
it's just like I don't. It's you'll get clicks and
views because your your name brings clicks and views. But
I want you to talk about things that you don't
really talk about because people when people sit down in
(17:33):
the interview. So, yeah, you and Kye used to be
together and y'all did a show called The Queen's Court.
I'm like, okay, and I cussed that bitch out and
we cussed each other out. I told the whole to
go back to her slave cabin and she lives in
bitch honey, riding around that ice cream fucking truck. Fuck
you bitch. So I did that, and I don't given't
talk about that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's we did that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I already did that. There's no reason to spend that.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
One thing doesn't define you forever, and that's something that
the internet. That's something that television and society do.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
If you tell someone to go back to their slave cabin,
it might define you for at least twenty years.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I gotta tell you, because you know, have you seen
her house? Go? Have you seen her house? Oh, honey,
I'm done the house. Well, i'll show you before you leave.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I need to see this calabney.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's definitely a cabin in the woods.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is there our house?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, honey, there might be one in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, there's definitely a what is it a cast iron
with some grits in it?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, here's the gag. Okay, also do it. Don't give
me a no. She's trying to get because we started,
we started. We need to move. Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
How do you feel about gender, about others? Gender others
and yours?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
What is your gender? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I was like him, would you be gagged?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I would?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, that's not you would. I would be dude.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I mean my pronouns are she her? And how I
feel about others is none of my business. I don't
care what anybody else identifies as wants to be.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You know what I don't like though. We just had
some guests. We had some friends over the house and
they were showing us that on the dropdown menu of
what are your pronouns? That was a lot from ze zoo,
zod z, fairy, fur, fern.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Tree.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Literally, no where were they were.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You say it too, you say, come on, I love
Actually that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It was at south By Southwest, yes, and they were
filling out a form that was required. And again, as
we even said, the drop down menu, it was like
twenty options for pronoun.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's ridiculous though, it's starting to know it was a
little much.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Can I say this please? Thank you? I'm old. There
were two things when I was growing up. You were
a faggot or a damn dyke. Yeah, no, Raven, we were.
There's so much stuff going on. It's so much energy
going on in the room, like it's it's Libra sage
cancer Gemini.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's a lot of energy going on in here, and
the camera just keeps Yeah, it keeps retracting like a
like an uncircumcised penis going You've had one, I've had
a few.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
My body count is only four though, okay, that's not
man for dot dot dot not zero zero. There's a
dot four zero zero zero dot four. I don't. I don't.
I don't really know many men. That's fair, and not
(20:50):
a lot out here. It's not a lot. So we
were talking about pronouns and all that type of stuff whatever,
you know, and and you and I are from a
place of freedom. You obviously are. You've been a child
star since you're sixteen months old, and so I'm just
really blossoming into being a star through social media and
(21:13):
all that type of stuff. So whatever. So that's been
about twenty years. You have even though I'm older than you,
you have more experience in that. And so we were
talking about programming and the way that we're free, because
I love the way you walk where you free. Like listen,
when I go back and I watch some of the
old things that you were on, I was just like,
I wondered this, did Raven know that Raven was going
(21:36):
to be this free?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And did you feel confined? Like just like confined? And
when you go back and you look at the old
things that you were on, were you like bitch?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So I'm writing a memoir to talk about this, but
tell us the name of it. I don't know it yet.
I'm literally in the middle of gathering my history and
all of the stories and things that I went through.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That name. I don't know it yet.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I don't know if. Yeah, seriously, that part it's true. AnyWho, No,
A quick little thing like I would go to work
and I'd come home and I'd take off all of
the wraps, arounds and sports bras on top of regular
bras and makeup and you know, wear my pro club
and chilling the house with whatever guy I was dating
at the time, and they would be like, you're more
(22:27):
of a dude than I am. When you get home.
What's going on? I'm like, shit, You're fine.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I didn't realize. However, the subconscious of me knew. I
remember when I was younger in my room looking at
the Ellen Degenereses and the Chaz Bonos and you know,
Whitney Houston's all I like that listen side listen, and
hearing the stories around these people and how negative it
(22:55):
was at the time, right because this world was not
as free. This is brand new, and it wasn't until
you know, I started dating Miranda and we started really
having conversations where I feel comfortable enough to speak the
truth that was underneath all the layers that had been
kind of programmed to be a product for the world.
(23:19):
So it's it's been an interesting un peeling of onion
layers to get to a core that makes me feel
like I can wake up and come to work. Listen,
I haven't more makeup on a job.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I was thinking about that this morning.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Literally, as I was doing my makeup, I was like.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well, you have one makeup? Your skin is beautiful, do you?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I mean a little bit. I don't wear a lot
of makeup.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But I wear cake batter, cake batters and strawberry.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But I literally was like, I'm so jealous because Raven
just gets up and goes. But there was a there's
just not to do her makeup. I know there was
a period.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
There was a point though, at a period there was
a period of time where if I didn't go to
a meeting that wasn't even on camera and I went
to a meeting without makeup, somebody would be would call
the people in charge of me, and I would get
like yelled at for not going to a meeting with
a full face of makeup and like a whole outfit.
That was just the culture back.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Then and even since we've been together and knowing Raven,
like the Raven in twenty fifteen, right that I met,
who was on the view and still kind of very
female presenting and facing to the world. You've changed so
much even since that point in time, and it's been
beautiful to watch her progression and her kind of self
(24:40):
integration because she's become more and more comfortable with herself.
And there were even times where she would be like,
do you think I need to do this? Do you
think I should wear this for the carpet? And I'm like, babes,
do you want to wear that? Do you feel comfortable
in it? And she's like, no, I want to wear this,
and I'm like, wear that. Then it looks fantastic. Nobody
ever spoken to me like that, And I'm like, wear it.
And who cares? You know, because yes, like you're saying,
she had people in her life when she was young
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who really manipulated and controlled the image and the programming exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's so crazy because like we sit back and we
watch our favorites on television and we don't know really
what they're doing, you don't know, and we're watching them
be like superstars and you know, and making us laughing,
But they're part of our programming. Yeah, And what's going
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on in our administration now with the regime that's going
on now is the attempt to erase all the things
that we've really worked for and trying to reset us
back to boxing us into this place.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
It's control because the more freedom you have. Listen, for
the longest time, certain people couldn't read. Why can't you
learn how to read? Because if you get knowledge, you
become powerful, and then you realize that you have the
power within you. And you can't do that when you
need people's money and you need their souls in order
to make things go down. You can't do that. And
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we got too free for some people, you know. And
I smile when I say it, because you can't hate
on a game like that's just the game of what
they created. And some people found out the truth. Our
social media opened up a door to where we now
know the truth and can report the truth, and they
are scared about it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I was having a conversation with somebody about why actors
and athletes are paid as much as they are, because
sometimes you hear about these contracts and you're like, oh,
my God, he just signed like a five hundred million
dollar deal for three years of basketball play. And one
of the things that we were talking about was the
reason that entertainers and athletes get paid as much as
(26:59):
they do is because they capture people's They capture people's
attention in such a way that they can actually shift
their energy. And when you are shifting people's energy, it
is absolutely one of the most powerful things, if not
the most powerful thing on this planet. It's or the
most powerful influence we have over each other. And if
you capture someone's imagination, that is also that's Disney. You
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are able to control them. So when you talk about
the programming and the image, right and people who feel
so deeply connected to Raven, Raven presented an image. No
one knew what was happening behind the scenes, but she
presented an image that captured people's imaginations, capture people's hearts,
and therefore they were invested and therefore you create not
so much with that world, but what you end up
(27:45):
creating from the top is consumers. People who will buy things,
people who will come and watch the sports game, watch
and then you're you're done for like you you they
can they maybe millions and millions, and you mean entertainers
and athletes and performers and people who know how to
give that energetic to then capture and inform the masses.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And she really looked at it like that.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's that's my wife.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's that's how we talk.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
People don't know everybody on the internet coming from my wife, like,
go listen to that, well, some real shit.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We never I never really looked at it like that,
because it's just like, it's just like taking. And that's
why they've always kept me out because I have gates.
I have been the gates, unapologetically loud, laughing in color
and tell my motherfucker listen, bitch, be yourself, bitch, step
(28:43):
your pussy up, honey, get a job, own a business.
But so cold. Yet you take a person like that,
Who's who's telling you I'm not gonna be that. I'm
not gonna be skinny, bitch. I don't need to be skinny.
I don't need to clean my mouth up for you
to watch me. I'm gonna say, motherfucker anytime I get ready.
(29:04):
You're not gonna tell me because I'm trans now, I
can't talk about that. I have a dick. Are you crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You know what, you know what you're doing. You're being authentic.
And authenticity is the most contagious thing.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Which is why social media has taken over.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yes, it is highly highly contagious. And they're literally like,
I won't bore us with this, but there are studies,
fascinating studies, and everyone should look this up. It's called
a hundred monkey study. And that study shows you how
authenticity is truly the most contagious thing. So every time
that you are speaking your truth and someone is listening
to it, you are actually inspiring that person to live
(29:39):
a little bit more authentic.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And let me add to it. So you have someone
like me who's been programmed to be a certain brand
and I know how to turn on. I was literally
in the kitchen with my wife today and I I'm
about to do this audition. I was like, oh, that
felt truthful. She was like, yeah, that felt truthful. Compared
to back in the day before authenticity was so important,
our our retional ships didn't need authentic I could walk
(30:01):
into an audition and not feel truthful and get the job.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
There is a.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Weird energetic shift that has happened recently where if you're
not authentic, they won't hire you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's weird, but it's the most powerful thing that every
individual has. Really. If you live in your authenticity, that
is where you will be able to impact other people
and manifesta regardless of like who you are or what
you're doing. It is. It is truly energetically powerful. But
a lot of people can live a lot of people
don't live in their authenticity.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wait a minute, are you calling me a witch?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yes, exactly what I'm calling you.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
We have seven minutes, so we only have seven inches left.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, seven inches. I can take it me too, let's go.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I got it on camera. So we've gotten down because
I know you guys have a heart out. I want
to we would come back, and I'm definitely coming to you.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I will come back.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Please come time.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
We're all coming thanks to seven inch.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So we've got a part of the show. It's called
Bannet Bitch.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So now this part of the show is if we
ruled the world the world.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Okay, there we go, my sons.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Before we'll do it all day. We'll walk right into.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
The white girl, wiggle right next to you. It's pretty unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So we come to the show. It's called bannet bitch. Now,
if you rule the world? Uh, come on, what a
paper it is?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
It?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Eight? Oh? You got it, you're doing it, so we
got It's now eight now not seven.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Here's how it works. We each get one minute to
make our case for what needs to go. Producers will
keep track of time and call out when there's thirty
seconds left and ten seconds left. Let me kick it
off and show how down. Okay. So hey, my name
is T. S. Madison, And if I rule the world,
I would ban flesh colored dialdos. I like pink ones,
(32:32):
I like black ones, I like you know, I'd like
to have a variety, you know, because decks are like candy,
and I think that you should be able to have
a pink dick, a blue one for blueberry, a lavender
one for the lavender. So I'm banning the flesh colored
(32:53):
ones because we should live in a society where color
doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
She brought that around, she brought that all the way
back around.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Doesn't matter as long as it is, I'm banning not
being able to enjoy colorful tis.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, that's fair, that's very cute. Well, done snaps snaps too.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Imagine if Dick's were all based off of like like Smurfs,
because you got to have a blue Dick, the Grinch,
you need it, green, Christmas Time, big bird Yellow.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We need I just I just want us to not
have this conversation you're banning.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Everyone should.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So now.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
You know, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
My name is Raven Simone. And if I rule the world,
I would ban money.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
She's so rich, you don't need money.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm work.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I would actually go with the barter system that way
every I would you guys listen, if we can bring
back tariffs, we can bring up the barter system. If
I would just think about this, everyone has some type
of talent. It can be cooking, it could be driving,
it could be anything. But I really truly believe that
money is the root of a lot of evil and
(34:29):
we should all be able to partake in this world
that we create, and it should just be off of trust. Yes,
I live in a euphoria type setting, but I just
feel like I would like that more and we should
be able to do whatever we want to. We have
a podcast, people come on. We barter our life back
and forth to people. If I want a car, cool,
I want a car? What can I help you with?
Let me babysit your son? Like you know what I mean.
(34:50):
Like there's things that we can go back and forth
with because money is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I I how sons and cars.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That's one to one.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Baby sitting in cars go one to one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, I don't want to need children to I don't
want to watch yours, So.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No car for you.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I'll ride your man.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Hilarious, that's a nice.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I'll take care of him for.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I'm up. Okay. If I rule the world, my name
is Miranda, And if I ruled the world, I would
ban the Are you still watching on Netflix? Because yes,
I am still watching. And what I don't need is
Netflix shaming me for still watching. Like I do like
(35:38):
to sit on the couch and I do like to
watch YouTube for hours or Netflix for hours. And when
you pause my show to ask me if I'm still
watching my show, I find it rude. I find it unnecessary.
I find it an interruption that I didn't ask for.
Like I am an adult who knows how to hit pause.
I know how to hit stop. I know how to
(35:58):
turn off my TV when I leave the room. If
my TV's on, it's because I want it on. I
might just need the background sound. I might actually still
be watching. And five hours of watching, Like that's not
too long. I mean that's kind of average. And I
just feel like I don't need that. None of us
need that. We all have enough questions in this world,
and I really don't need TV questioning if I still
(36:21):
want to continue watching it when I obviously do, because.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Crazy, I like that. And while you need to know,
you should be asking yourself are you watching?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
The TV might be on and we might be watching
each other that part, because I've definitely had on Netflix,
and my legs have been to the moon.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You were sunnying, you were mooning your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
My legs are to the moon. And then I looked
over and it's like, are you still watching? I'm like no,
The question is are.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You for real.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
What you'd be watching?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Where your legs go up, just stretching, just stretching, stretching.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm Richard Simmons in Flexible. You like Richard Simmons.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
He as we He masked really well, did he? He
was representation for us for a while.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yes, remember were kids, but we knew that that was something.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
That was Libiquito. And that's what I'm saying. He like
passed enough for the streets to be like, I'll watch
you and work.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Out, But that was Libiquita as one gentlemen. This has
been Raven Simonier and Miranda Simonier. I can't remember the
hyphens and stuff like that. I it's the House of Simon.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We'll take that.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I'll take the House of Simonier.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, the House of Simon.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think she should call it, like, yep, this is me.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, we should not.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That was me. No, we tried, you know what.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Thank you and that's a wrap, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And Miranda's done.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
House of the Dragon.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I'm about the House of Balenciaga.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I went there.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh, the House of Carl Lagerfield. I can't keep going.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That was fun, but we will come back. We really
enjoyed it. But next time, like we like, but I'm hungry. Yeah,
we would come back.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Outlaws is a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart
Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment, co created by Tyler Rabinowitz
and Olivia Piece. I'm your host Tias Madison. We are
executive produced by Tyler Rabinowitz. Maya Howard and Tis Madison.
Our supervising producer is Jessica Krinchicch and our producers are
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Joey pat and Common Mole. Our video editor is Tyler
ra Bennowitz and our sound editor is Just Crime. Our
associate producer is Trent high Tower. For sure thanks to
our producers assistant Daniel Rabinowitz. Our theme song is composed
by Wazi. Merrit our show art is by Pablo Martinina.
Catch you next week, honey,
Every time I open up, my mouth up and goes out.
Don't wait, no, wind yourself, bitch, get a job ricking honey,
Rick hod More, he Chase, I'm black like that. He
(00:33):
sbout living. It's color easy. This is Outlaws with tears medicine.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Is it on? Honey? Is this thing recording what's up
to the lands all across the land? This is your
grow teas medicine. I'm coming to you loud, live and always.
I'm the forever in the color from the Outlaws podcast.
And bitch, let me tell you something. The Outlaws Podcast
is a show where the people come on here who
are the thing of the thing. Oh, not just that
(01:06):
they've done something, said something been something that does got
them outlawed, honey. But one thing about Outlaw We're always wanted, dude,
Ladies and gentlemen. It is my esteem, honor and pleasure
to have here on my show today the legendary legendarian
Raven Simonier, oh and her wife Veranda Simonier.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'll take it, I'll take.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Thank you for having us on.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, thank you for doing you know, listen, you are
a legend. And then you know y'all have been together
how long have y'all been together? I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We will be married five years in June. Known each
other for ten yeah, five years?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So okay, y'all have known each other for ten years
and then you got married and I'll be married for
five years.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We got married during COVID and we have been strong since,
started a podcast, started a production company, just got a house.
And during that ten years of knowing each other, we
dated for a few months and then more.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Than a few months, I think like eight months, eight.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Months, okay, what was two months off?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And just and we I'm just I got it. I
got the year written on me, so I'll never forget
the year. And that's what we need to just worry
about the year.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What made you want to get married?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
A couple of reasons for me, and I'm sure her
reasons are different because we have different backgrounds. Whatever. For me,
like taxes, period, taxes, security, knowing that I have a
woman by my side that I can share my money with,
and I know that she can't run off without consequence.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Wait a minute, hold on, I'm mess because.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
She's very practical.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Listen, listen, you don't want to wear it's going to
cost us a whole bunch of money for you to
go somewhere. Know, if I'm dating you, you can get
all the presents. You could just leave whatever you want to.
But I don't want to do that for her. I
want to share my life, and I want to share
my wealth, and I want to share my work and success.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What just so much sharing of money?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Did you just are you just not signing this out?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes? I don't know the reasons were sharing money? No scends.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I can look at them hands and I know exactly
who bought them. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She's jeweled.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm jeweled, but I bought my own jewels.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That's what my love hers is mine?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, j Low, But seriously, it's marriage is a practical sense.
In that theory, I would have been with her without
marrying her, if you know, I wasn't inundated with society's
necessaries to kind of function.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
In and since I didn't need Raven's money, I married
her for love.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
That's not the question.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well why did I get married? No, Like, you.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Could still love me without getting married. Kurt Douglass and
that other one that he's been with since nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Eighty two Goldie Han.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, they never got married.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
This is true.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And they had the daughter, Kate Hudson.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, but she's not. That's just Goldie's daughter, not his
biological daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Does.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, her father's last name is Hudson.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That makes sense, that does.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But I thought she just didn't want the Han because
of Goldie's success and she wanted to be an actress.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So she made up Hudson. No, her dad is somebody,
but he didn't really raise her. He wasn't present in
her life. But she kept his Yeah, exactly, Kurt. She
calls Kurt papa. I think papa.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know that's her nickname, Biggie, not big Pop.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold up, wait a minute. Ship,
this is moving quick.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, so she got it tatted.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I literally have. I would stand up right now and
show you it's a tramp stamp on my back, biggie.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's also why she married me.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Oh yeah, there's now. If you're talking about why I
married her because of Miranda, we can get into a
whole other conversation. But I know that the original question
was what made marriage?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is true. I I veered us.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm sorry, it's okay, because you're taking me in so
many directions that I want to go. So you have Biggie,
you have so you say it's a tramp stamp on
your base, it's Biggie.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, why yeah? So it is my nickname. And
around the age I think of six or seven, I
had a younger sister who could not still still has
I still yes, I still have a younger sister. So,
but I meant like she was a lot born. She
came into the world at that time. Shit. So I
(06:07):
have a younger sister who had a hard time saying
Miranda when she was young. So for whatever reason, I
said to her, don't worry about it, call me Biggie,
and it's stuck. My sister Mimi, to this day still
calls me Biggie. I'm thirty seven. She's thirty one and
obviously can say Miranda, but I'm just Biggy.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Her mom calls her Biggie, her dad calls her biggie.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, my dad doesn't. He never He's never called me
Bill Miranda.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, Randa, Amanda, what Miranda?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But you said you're big?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Well I was going to say, like I'm gonna call
her Papa at home, that's not gone.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But but you, But you, she's big Papa energy for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Not me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
She's Daddy energy.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
In my own world, I'm just biggie, just cute biggie.
This is a biggie.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know I'm dead because I'm I'm I have questions.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I feel like you've rendered you speech. Listen. You've
probably never been speechless before in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, it's because I'm wanted the speech that I want
to say. I want to make sure that I said correctly.
What a strap? Ad you got the strap? You use
the strap? What's the stroup size? That motherfucker's scrappy?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Is that I'm courteous. I let her choose so that
I don't have any problem.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
But it can be a color.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Wait, wait a minute, So it's a it's like a blueberry.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
It better not be so it has to be it
has to be skin tone, a skin tone. But she
can choose the she can choose the raven.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, ma'am, because I have a dick of my own yep.
And I know you've probably heard that. It's I was
big dick bitch at one point in my life. Yes,
I did. Okay, do you have it where you were.
(08:02):
If it's so like gifting you do I have it? One?
Do you have it where it's ribbed for your pleasure too?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I've used those, not a full fan because it moves
a lot and I don't need it. I don't need it.
There's a one thing I also love about Miranda that
I've never had with any of my other partners is
a mental connection that allows for a strap and a
(08:31):
non strap as well, and it feels the same either way.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So it's weird, do you You said it's weird.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, it's not in a bad way. It's just like
we have a really strong connection and we have a
really good sexual chemistry, so it works.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Really, that's another reason why I married her.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So when you look into her eyes and you tell her,
take this mother, do you do that?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
When you do it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do you do that? Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
My god? Again, I am very gentle with my wife
at times and most times. Most times, it takes a
consistent sexual pattern for it to get to there. But
(09:29):
we are kind of in that brain space where we
like to build tension over the course of time. So
it's not an aggressive release at first, but if we
do have a release, and then we start and it
kind of swirls into a week's worth of stuff. Then
we will get a little bit more aggressive as that goes.
(09:49):
But my wife is a beautiful princess, and I have
to be gentle sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, but I can. You do have the spirit of
take dic.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I do have that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I was, but we're not gonna talk about that, Okay,
we want she.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Was just gonna say I was raised by God.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
She said, I call that Disney ship this month.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No joke. And I have to say slow down. I
just say, I'm a real person.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yo, where are we?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's crazy? He's such a leo, such a li Listen,
this is the out lost pocket. This is why we
want I'm not the traditional like people. I want to
talk about all the greedy, greedy, the fun. Yeah, you
get so many podcasts where people just want so you know,
you were over this, and you know, and then Oprah
said this, and then you said this, and then we
(10:45):
have to I don't really give a funk about it
because you've talked about it fifty million times. I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We say this all the time. This is what we
try and do on our podcast. Too.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Should come, I will, but we agree. It's like, especially
in this industry to the point where we are the
same questions get asked over and over again. And this
is a different medium. This is not e news, this
is not you know, V one.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
O three different.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We've seen the stuff happen. We've seen it. You done
went through the backlash of the ship and you don't
cuss motherfuckers out about it, then you don't listen. I
don't want to go to a podcast where I have
to be like, yeah, I want to get to the
podcast and be like yeah, man, you know, yeah, I
want to have fun. That's what is that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's what you said, that's what you want to do. Yeah,
we're going dick. You wearing right now?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Tell me what is it? What's black? You should be
black like that caramel mocha A little bit in between
the times.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I agree, So I understand that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, the hyper paymentation.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So my thighs get a little, this, a little got.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
An extra tan there?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I get it. I got that from how much
the open no sun getting that bitious little?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You can sun it?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Have you sunned it? How do you say?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
My goodness, babes, tell them all that you just lay
outside and.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's fantastic. Naked naked and you just asked the son
to enter you. When I tell mother Nature, mother Nature
has a dick of her own and it'll come right
through you in the form of u V rays. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
We did.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We did it in the sand, we did it in
a in palms.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We did it in this I didn't actually you did.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I did.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was fantastic, was all about it. We were two
bunch of palms. She's like, I'm about to go sun
my volva.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
B r b b r b b r b b
r b b You do that, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, now we got about what, We're gonna get into
the trash. We're gonna go back to the trash. But
we have to do this at the top because it's
at the top of the can stop reminding me of it. Okay,
we gotta do this at the top of show. So
on the out Lost podcast, yes, we have a section
(13:05):
called talk your Ship. Okay, great, now it's time for
you to talk your ship. Who you are, what you do,
what are you proud of? Now? This is your time
to shine, so don't hold back. I'm a bit of
a narcissist, a little bit because I've done a lot
of things on this earth. And I brag about it.
(13:25):
I did it, and people don't like that. But on
this show, we love for people to come on and say,
I'm worth five hundred million dollars and I've had television shows,
I make television shows. I'm rich as fuck. We got it.
We we expound on this is we make people. We
(13:47):
like our hate watchers too.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I love them because they come in with the ships
they bring you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, tell us exactly who you are, how many Emmys, Grammys,
how much money you've made, how many TV shows. I
want you to just looking at him. My name is
and just say and this, and just talk your shit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Hey, what's up everybody? My name is Raven Simo and
Christina Pierman may Day. That's right, I have two hyphenated names.
I've been I've been famous since I was sixteen months old.
I have been on multiple TV shows that some are
no longer on the air they're so old. My residual
checks range from one penny to thousands of dollars. I
(14:27):
married a woman who has her own shit, who is
out here thriving, and all I have to do is
support her. It feels fantastic. I'm writing my memoir. I've
had my own television shows. I've employed thousands of people
of all different colors and genders and representation. And I
(14:48):
am stepping behind the scenes because I can. I've had
multiple albums, I too have an Emmy and multiple awards
that I display and some that I don't well, and
I have a Nickelodeon one and a t.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
R L Award then Nickelodeon Disney Award. You've what's the
one with the mouse?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Then that's not an award, is it? Anyway? I'm sorry anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I I don't have a good ship talking.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This is a leo.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm as sad, like you.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Were really great.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I was really good.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I thought she was great.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
She was. I just wanted her to say also, and
I'm rich as fuck.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh yeah, I am rich as fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm for a long time now.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The way you say that it's so sexy I have.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That was a very denzelous Let me bring the purple
up for you tonight, did babe?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh wait, the purp, not the pink nah purple r.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
That man was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
See, let's talk about that. He was so pretty, you know.
Let's talk about gender non conforming gender, queer gender, gender that, Yeah,
start your pronouns.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
My pronouns are Raven and raven and that bitch. No,
I'm just playing. No, I don't really like it. I
don't really like the pronoun thing. I think it's weird
for me and I And since I choose raven as
my pronouns, I am nodding my head to those who
need that information and that validation as of right now
(16:21):
in the community that we live in, because it's so
new and I understand it. So instead of saying all
the things that we talk about at home, I'm just
gonna say I like Raven. I do feel very much
in the center of the spectrum when it comes to
presenting out in the world and thought processes. But I
don't really.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I try not to dive too much into it because
it can be a little polarizing at times, and I
know that there are a lot of generations that are
still catching up to this new generation and what they
need for validation. So I like to listen. I like
to try out the fence a little bit. Okay, I'm
not trying to get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
On your yas mass shit, because listen, but here we
can get in trouble because do your thing. So whatever,
you free listen and I saw you on Jason Lee
just recently. Shut up. He's dangerous, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, you're great.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'm very much so like, I don't want to get
you in no trouble. I just want you to free ball,
because that's free ball everywhere, the fun out exactly because
it's just like I don't. It's you'll get clicks and
views because your your name brings clicks and views. But
I want you to talk about things that you don't
really talk about because people when people sit down in
(17:33):
the interview. So, yeah, you and Kye used to be
together and y'all did a show called The Queen's Court.
I'm like, okay, and I cussed that bitch out and
we cussed each other out. I told the whole to
go back to her slave cabin and she lives in
bitch honey, riding around that ice cream fucking truck. Fuck
you bitch. So I did that, and I don't given't
talk about that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's we did that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I already did that. There's no reason to spend that.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
One thing doesn't define you forever, and that's something that
the internet. That's something that television and society do.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
If you tell someone to go back to their slave cabin,
it might define you for at least twenty years.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I gotta tell you, because you know, have you seen
her house? Go? Have you seen her house? Oh, honey,
I'm done the house. Well, i'll show you before you leave.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I need to see this calabney.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's definitely a cabin in the woods.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is there our house?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, honey, there might be one in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, there's definitely a what is it a cast iron
with some grits in it?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, here's the gag. Okay, also do it. Don't give
me a no. She's trying to get because we started,
we started. We need to move. Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
How do you feel about gender, about others? Gender others
and yours?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
What is your gender? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I was like him, would you be gagged?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I would?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, that's not you would. I would be dude.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I mean my pronouns are she her? And how I
feel about others is none of my business. I don't
care what anybody else identifies as wants to be.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You know what I don't like though. We just had
some guests. We had some friends over the house and
they were showing us that on the dropdown menu of
what are your pronouns? That was a lot from ze zoo,
zod z, fairy, fur, fern.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Tree.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Literally, no where were they were.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You say it too, you say, come on, I love
Actually that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It was at south By Southwest, yes, and they were
filling out a form that was required. And again, as
we even said, the drop down menu, it was like
twenty options for pronoun.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's ridiculous though, it's starting to know it was a
little much.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Can I say this please? Thank you? I'm old. There
were two things when I was growing up. You were
a faggot or a damn dyke. Yeah, no, Raven, we were.
There's so much stuff going on. It's so much energy
going on in the room, like it's it's Libra sage
cancer Gemini.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's a lot of energy going on in here, and
the camera just keeps Yeah, it keeps retracting like a
like an uncircumcised penis going You've had one, I've had
a few.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
My body count is only four though, okay, that's not
man for dot dot dot not zero zero. There's a
dot four zero zero zero dot four. I don't. I don't.
I don't really know many men. That's fair, and not
(20:50):
a lot out here. It's not a lot. So we
were talking about pronouns and all that type of stuff whatever,
you know, and and you and I are from a
place of freedom. You obviously are. You've been a child
star since you're sixteen months old, and so I'm just
really blossoming into being a star through social media and
(21:13):
all that type of stuff. So whatever. So that's been
about twenty years. You have even though I'm older than you,
you have more experience in that. And so we were
talking about programming and the way that we're free, because
I love the way you walk where you free. Like listen,
when I go back and I watch some of the
old things that you were on, I was just like,
I wondered this, did Raven know that Raven was going
(21:36):
to be this free?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And did you feel confined? Like just like confined? And
when you go back and you look at the old
things that you were on, were you like bitch?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So I'm writing a memoir to talk about this, but
tell us the name of it. I don't know it yet.
I'm literally in the middle of gathering my history and
all of the stories and things that I went through.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That name. I don't know it yet.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I don't know if. Yeah, seriously, that part it's true. AnyWho, No,
A quick little thing like I would go to work
and I'd come home and I'd take off all of
the wraps, arounds and sports bras on top of regular
bras and makeup and you know, wear my pro club
and chilling the house with whatever guy I was dating
at the time, and they would be like, you're more
(22:27):
of a dude than I am. When you get home.
What's going on? I'm like, shit, You're fine.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I didn't realize. However, the subconscious of me knew. I
remember when I was younger in my room looking at
the Ellen Degenereses and the Chaz Bonos and you know,
Whitney Houston's all I like that listen side listen, and
hearing the stories around these people and how negative it
(22:55):
was at the time, right because this world was not
as free. This is brand new, and it wasn't until
you know, I started dating Miranda and we started really
having conversations where I feel comfortable enough to speak the
truth that was underneath all the layers that had been
kind of programmed to be a product for the world.
(23:19):
So it's it's been an interesting un peeling of onion
layers to get to a core that makes me feel
like I can wake up and come to work. Listen,
I haven't more makeup on a job.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I was thinking about that this morning.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Literally, as I was doing my makeup, I was like.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well, you have one makeup? Your skin is beautiful, do you?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I mean a little bit. I don't wear a lot
of makeup.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But I wear cake batter, cake batters and strawberry.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But I literally was like, I'm so jealous because Raven
just gets up and goes. But there was a there's
just not to do her makeup. I know there was
a period.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
There was a point though, at a period there was
a period of time where if I didn't go to
a meeting that wasn't even on camera and I went
to a meeting without makeup, somebody would be would call
the people in charge of me, and I would get
like yelled at for not going to a meeting with
a full face of makeup and like a whole outfit.
That was just the culture back.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Then and even since we've been together and knowing Raven,
like the Raven in twenty fifteen, right that I met,
who was on the view and still kind of very
female presenting and facing to the world. You've changed so
much even since that point in time, and it's been
beautiful to watch her progression and her kind of self
(24:40):
integration because she's become more and more comfortable with herself.
And there were even times where she would be like,
do you think I need to do this? Do you
think I should wear this for the carpet? And I'm like, babes,
do you want to wear that? Do you feel comfortable
in it? And she's like, no, I want to wear this,
and I'm like, wear that. Then it looks fantastic. Nobody
ever spoken to me like that, And I'm like, wear it.
And who cares? You know, because yes, like you're saying,
she had people in her life when she was young
(25:03):
who really manipulated and controlled the image and the programming exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's so crazy because like we sit back and we
watch our favorites on television and we don't know really
what they're doing, you don't know, and we're watching them
be like superstars and you know, and making us laughing,
But they're part of our programming. Yeah, And what's going
(25:35):
on in our administration now with the regime that's going
on now is the attempt to erase all the things
that we've really worked for and trying to reset us
back to boxing us into this place.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
It's control because the more freedom you have. Listen, for
the longest time, certain people couldn't read. Why can't you
learn how to read? Because if you get knowledge, you
become powerful, and then you realize that you have the
power within you. And you can't do that when you
need people's money and you need their souls in order
to make things go down. You can't do that. And
(26:18):
we got too free for some people, you know. And
I smile when I say it, because you can't hate
on a game like that's just the game of what
they created. And some people found out the truth. Our
social media opened up a door to where we now
know the truth and can report the truth, and they
are scared about it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I was having a conversation with somebody about why actors
and athletes are paid as much as they are, because
sometimes you hear about these contracts and you're like, oh,
my God, he just signed like a five hundred million
dollar deal for three years of basketball play. And one
of the things that we were talking about was the
reason that entertainers and athletes get paid as much as
(26:59):
they do is because they capture people's They capture people's
attention in such a way that they can actually shift
their energy. And when you are shifting people's energy, it
is absolutely one of the most powerful things, if not
the most powerful thing on this planet. It's or the
most powerful influence we have over each other. And if
you capture someone's imagination, that is also that's Disney. You
(27:23):
are able to control them. So when you talk about
the programming and the image, right and people who feel
so deeply connected to Raven, Raven presented an image. No
one knew what was happening behind the scenes, but she
presented an image that captured people's imaginations, capture people's hearts,
and therefore they were invested and therefore you create not
so much with that world, but what you end up
(27:45):
creating from the top is consumers. People who will buy things,
people who will come and watch the sports game, watch
and then you're you're done for like you you they
can they maybe millions and millions, and you mean entertainers
and athletes and performers and people who know how to
give that energetic to then capture and inform the masses.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And she really looked at it like that.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's that's my wife.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's that's how we talk.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
People don't know everybody on the internet coming from my wife, like,
go listen to that, well, some real shit.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We never I never really looked at it like that,
because it's just like, it's just like taking. And that's
why they've always kept me out because I have gates.
I have been the gates, unapologetically loud, laughing in color
and tell my motherfucker listen, bitch, be yourself, bitch, step
(28:43):
your pussy up, honey, get a job, own a business.
But so cold. Yet you take a person like that,
Who's who's telling you I'm not gonna be that. I'm
not gonna be skinny, bitch. I don't need to be skinny.
I don't need to clean my mouth up for you
to watch me. I'm gonna say, motherfucker anytime I get ready.
(29:04):
You're not gonna tell me because I'm trans now, I
can't talk about that. I have a dick. Are you crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You know what, you know what you're doing. You're being authentic.
And authenticity is the most contagious thing.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Which is why social media has taken over.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yes, it is highly highly contagious. And they're literally like,
I won't bore us with this, but there are studies,
fascinating studies, and everyone should look this up. It's called
a hundred monkey study. And that study shows you how
authenticity is truly the most contagious thing. So every time
that you are speaking your truth and someone is listening
to it, you are actually inspiring that person to live
(29:39):
a little bit more authentic.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And let me add to it. So you have someone
like me who's been programmed to be a certain brand
and I know how to turn on. I was literally
in the kitchen with my wife today and I I'm
about to do this audition. I was like, oh, that
felt truthful. She was like, yeah, that felt truthful. Compared
to back in the day before authenticity was so important,
our our retional ships didn't need authentic I could walk
(30:01):
into an audition and not feel truthful and get the job.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
There is a.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Weird energetic shift that has happened recently where if you're
not authentic, they won't hire you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's weird, but it's the most powerful thing that every
individual has. Really. If you live in your authenticity, that
is where you will be able to impact other people
and manifesta regardless of like who you are or what
you're doing. It is. It is truly energetically powerful. But
a lot of people can live a lot of people
don't live in their authenticity.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wait a minute, are you calling me a witch?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yes, exactly what I'm calling you.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
We have seven minutes, so we only have seven inches left.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, seven inches. I can take it me too, let's go.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I got it on camera. So we've gotten down because
I know you guys have a heart out. I want
to we would come back, and I'm definitely coming to you.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I will come back.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Please come time.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
We're all coming thanks to seven inch.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So we've got a part of the show. It's called
Bannet Bitch.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So now this part of the show is if we
ruled the world the world.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Okay, there we go, my sons.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Before we'll do it all day. We'll walk right into.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
The white girl, wiggle right next to you. It's pretty unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So we come to the show. It's called bannet bitch. Now,
if you rule the world? Uh, come on, what a
paper it is?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
It?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Eight? Oh? You got it, you're doing it, so we
got It's now eight now not seven.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Here's how it works. We each get one minute to
make our case for what needs to go. Producers will
keep track of time and call out when there's thirty
seconds left and ten seconds left. Let me kick it
off and show how down. Okay. So hey, my name
is T. S. Madison, And if I rule the world,
I would ban flesh colored dialdos. I like pink ones,
(32:32):
I like black ones, I like you know, I'd like
to have a variety, you know, because decks are like candy,
and I think that you should be able to have
a pink dick, a blue one for blueberry, a lavender
one for the lavender. So I'm banning the flesh colored
(32:53):
ones because we should live in a society where color
doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
She brought that around, she brought that all the way
back around.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Doesn't matter as long as it is, I'm banning not
being able to enjoy colorful tis.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, that's fair, that's very cute. Well, done snaps snaps too.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Imagine if Dick's were all based off of like like Smurfs,
because you got to have a blue Dick, the Grinch,
you need it, green, Christmas Time, big bird Yellow.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We need I just I just want us to not
have this conversation you're banning.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Everyone should.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So now.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
You know, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
My name is Raven Simone. And if I rule the world,
I would ban money.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
She's so rich, you don't need money.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm work.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I would actually go with the barter system that way
every I would you guys listen, if we can bring
back tariffs, we can bring up the barter system. If
I would just think about this, everyone has some type
of talent. It can be cooking, it could be driving,
it could be anything. But I really truly believe that
money is the root of a lot of evil and
(34:29):
we should all be able to partake in this world
that we create, and it should just be off of trust. Yes,
I live in a euphoria type setting, but I just
feel like I would like that more and we should
be able to do whatever we want to. We have
a podcast, people come on. We barter our life back
and forth to people. If I want a car, cool,
I want a car? What can I help you with?
Let me babysit your son? Like you know what I mean.
(34:50):
Like there's things that we can go back and forth
with because money is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I I how sons and cars.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That's one to one.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Baby sitting in cars go one to one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, I don't want to need children to I don't
want to watch yours, So.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No car for you.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I'll ride your man.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Hilarious, that's a nice.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I'll take care of him for.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I'm up. Okay. If I rule the world, my name
is Miranda, And if I ruled the world, I would
ban the Are you still watching on Netflix? Because yes,
I am still watching. And what I don't need is
Netflix shaming me for still watching. Like I do like
(35:38):
to sit on the couch and I do like to
watch YouTube for hours or Netflix for hours. And when
you pause my show to ask me if I'm still
watching my show, I find it rude. I find it unnecessary.
I find it an interruption that I didn't ask for.
Like I am an adult who knows how to hit pause.
I know how to hit stop. I know how to
(35:58):
turn off my TV when I leave the room. If
my TV's on, it's because I want it on. I
might just need the background sound. I might actually still
be watching. And five hours of watching, Like that's not
too long. I mean that's kind of average. And I
just feel like I don't need that. None of us
need that. We all have enough questions in this world,
and I really don't need TV questioning if I still
(36:21):
want to continue watching it when I obviously do, because.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Crazy, I like that. And while you need to know,
you should be asking yourself are you watching?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
The TV might be on and we might be watching
each other that part, because I've definitely had on Netflix,
and my legs have been to the moon.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You were sunnying, you were mooning your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
My legs are to the moon. And then I looked
over and it's like, are you still watching? I'm like no,
The question is are.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You for real.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
What you'd be watching?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Where your legs go up, just stretching, just stretching, stretching.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm Richard Simmons in Flexible. You like Richard Simmons.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
He as we He masked really well, did he? He
was representation for us for a while.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yes, remember were kids, but we knew that that was something.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
That was Libiquito. And that's what I'm saying. He like
passed enough for the streets to be like, I'll watch
you and work.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Out, But that was Libiquita as one gentlemen. This has
been Raven Simonier and Miranda Simonier. I can't remember the
hyphens and stuff like that. I it's the House of Simon.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We'll take that.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I'll take the House of Simonier.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, the House of Simon.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think she should call it, like, yep, this is me.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, we should not.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That was me. No, we tried, you know what.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Thank you and that's a wrap, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And Miranda's done.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
House of the Dragon.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I'm about the House of Balenciaga.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I went there.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh, the House of Carl Lagerfield. I can't keep going.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That was fun, but we will come back. We really
enjoyed it. But next time, like we like, but I'm hungry. Yeah,
we would come back.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Outlaws is a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart
Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment, co created by Tyler Rabinowitz
and Olivia Piece. I'm your host Tias Madison. We are
executive produced by Tyler Rabinowitz. Maya Howard and Tis Madison.
Our supervising producer is Jessica Krinchicch and our producers are
(38:49):
Joey pat and Common Mole. Our video editor is Tyler
ra Bennowitz and our sound editor is Just Crime. Our
associate producer is Trent high Tower. For sure thanks to
our producers assistant Daniel Rabinowitz. Our theme song is composed
by Wazi. Merrit our show art is by Pablo Martinina.
Catch you next week, honey,
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