July 29, 2025 • 64 mins
Teresa Josephine Marie Fortenberry 🫱🏻🫲🏾Thunderstorm Madison.
We’re mixing it up today with the internet’s favorite good Southern Christian girl, Terri Joe. Terri’s here to share the word of the Lord with TS Madison, and how she navigates the world as a true child of God amidst abominations like vampires, welfare, hair dye, and pork chops. Terri shares stories from growing up in Bon Temps, Louisiana, including her…unique conversion therapy method, granted to her by God. Over the years, Terri Joe has cured many a hommaseggsyuhs (except for her nemesis Saucy Santana) and her work is far from over!
Unfortunately, Terri Joe had to leave unexpectedly mid-interview, but the phenomenal Kelon Campbell steps in to take over the rest of the episode!
Madison shares her love for the success of Kelon’s alter ego and how sharing the stage with Terri Joe has been a longtime dream! Kelon reflects on how Terri Joe came to be, taking the stage with Madonna, and going live with legends (Doja Cat!). We get into everything from the night he was escorted by security out of Shawty Bae’s birthday party, to the upcoming TERRI JOE MOVIE in the works! Did y’all know that was happening?! Madison encourages Kelon, as an Outlaw and as one of the seeds of her garden, to speak on his accomplishments with a little more pride moving forward – because if you can't celebrate yourself, how in the hell you gonna celebrate somebody else?! AMEN.
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every time I open up my mouth up and goes out.
Don't wait, no win twenty two inches b BD, bed yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is that up?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Get a job? Ricking, honey, rick hore.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Chasing.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm black like that, he stout living. It's color easy.
This is Outlaws with TS Medicine? Is it on? Is
it on? Honey? Is this bitch recording? Or what's up? Podcast? Lens?
The lens all across the land outside of the podcast leans, honey.
(00:50):
I don't know where y'all at, but listen. You are
now watching and listening to the Outlaws Podcast with T. S. Mesa,
and today I have a very very special guest. She
is a Caucasian woman all the way from Bon Tom.
I mean you may have seen her in so many
(01:11):
different spaces. She washes cars down to Joe's car wash. So, ladies,
jen to please put your hands together for the one,
the only, the infamous and famous Terry Joe. Hi, Hi, Terry, Listen,
you are so beautiful. I think watching you so closely,
(01:31):
I'm gonna get to wait a minute, hold on her,
my greadit is good. I have good.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's the first. That's the first. I'm here from a
colored woman. Oh, Okay, color's got a white man at home.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, actually, I'm black like that. Haven't you heard?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I never heard of her?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now I'm black like that? Okay, yeah, what though like
beyond black?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Beyonce black, but she's like talented.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
She is?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and so am I. Oh okay, what can you
like sing for us?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's called fish? Okay, yes, I'm smelling a little bit
of so I get it again. So, Terry Joe, I
did do a little back story on you from some
my producers in the back were telling me that you
are a Christian woman from montm I am. I've heard
(02:33):
of this place. I used to see a spot that
was on public television on and then it was a
spot there that I want to always be. It was
called Verlots.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yes, I'm a frequent there. I do love their alligator fritters.
I can say that I agree with the the patrons
of the place because it's a bit rambunctious for me.
But seeing how it is the only restaurant in town,
I'm gonna have to you know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But when you say rambunctiously, yeah, you know, I'm really not.
I don't know how to spell that word, how to
do I just know to say it. Okay, I don't
really know how to pronounce it really well. But you're
a white woman, and so I would expect for you
to it's rambunct rambunctious. Yet, okay, so this that means
it's a lot of color colored people.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There, Oh, not very many color people. A couple of them.
Couple of them work in the back as they should pay.
But mostly just people who are not very crystial like
that's what I mean. Other color not color folks, but
white folks who like you know, do drugs and stuff
like that. But you know, I still clear of them.
Just eat my meal, keep my head down, leave all right. Okay,
(03:44):
So how much do you eat? I don't eat very much. Actually,
A lots of people for some odd reason things that
I eat a lot. But I'm actually down to one
meal a day. I'm mad they call it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, one meal a day summer lots can accommodate that
one meal. No, no, no, I don't eat there that often.
I don't have that much money in the bank account
these days. I got yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Ever since my pap he died, I got to know
to take care of the house stuff. Mama can't work,
so I got to pay the bills and stuff, so
I don't have much money to for leisure.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Stuff with your father. He passed three years ago, he did? Yes,
where did he go two years ago? Where did he go?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To hell? Probably?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yell?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, it's a long story, but long story short. Daddy
was caught in the vampire bars getting his rear end
plunged for lack of a better word, and it actually
ruptured his inside and he bled out and died. So yeah,
he was living a life of seeing him. He's probably
burning the hell right now as we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, you do know that just because you've had anintal
sex doesn't mean that you're going to hell.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, in the Bible it says to me as a sin,
and that literally is the definition of sodomy. So I
think you are going to hell.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Would you know what chapter and what verse?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Chapter and verse? You know it's in Deuteronomy? Uh huh yeah,
chapter six through ten and it's in there Somewhow about sodomy?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, yeah, what about gomorrowy?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't know, you know, I think you just made
that up.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Tomorrow is in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh well, we must be reading the wrong about the
two different Bibles. A color Bible. Oh yeah, you mean
the one that gave to the slaves. Yeah, I think
that's what you read.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh my mine is a bit different. Well as a
white woman from the sound you all gave my people
that we did.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But the thing is, you can't let the colored folk
be in on what the old thing is. You got
to keep them on a lower tier than you they belong.
Sometimes that's just like a predated you know thought.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I don't think that. But that's not of God. Slavery
is not of God.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh no, I never said nothing about slavery. I just mean,
like you know, the right way is usually the right way.
So I'm just saying y'all had a lower tier.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Wait a minute, y'all.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, if the fits, they don't.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This is twelve. Oh oh well, well, Terry, I had
heard through the producers as well that you do a
conversion therapy.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I do. I do quite often.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Actually, can you explain to our viewers out here?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, Ever, since I was a kid, I almost sarted
saying the song. Ever since I was a kid, I
actually have had this adversity towards as versus the word.
I'm not sure I'm from the South, but this thing
towards homoseexus. What it's just really like rides.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's just like wa terry. I'm sorry against what homoseexus.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, men who like me and women who like women
homosexs never heard of no? Oh yeah, I'm surprised because
you know, they run rampant around especially where we are
in Los Angeles right now. They run rampant around here.
So you might want to keep your things close.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But do they steal?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Of course, they still the identities of women. Dress up
like women, thank their women, call themselves different names and
stuff like that. You know, you gotta keep your you
gotta protect your womanhood.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I try to do that with my penties on.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what you got to do. Put a lock on it,
lock and keep Like what is this thing called chastity?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, So in this conversion therapy of with homo homo? Yes,
what how does that process work?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well? Usually it's a few sessions with a therapist and
then if that doesn't work. I have a certain ability
that God has bestowed upon me that I like to
keep under wraps sometimes because if a lot of people
find out about it, I'm like, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're amongst friends and this is a nobody watches it, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
True, besides other colors. And who are they gonna tell?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
KFC.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm sorry, but yeah, basically, my cooter, it's been blessed
by God himself, and I have been known to turn
a couple of homosexuals into heterosexus with just one lick.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Wait, so they licked the cooter.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, sometimes it's licking, sometimes it's penetrating. But it's all
in the name of the Lord. I'm still a virgin.
So yeah, but it's it works, it does, It's worked
on several occasions. As that's why he's staying alive. Yep,
(09:13):
he ain't got that disease. He's staying all the way alive.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, mhm, Terry.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yes, so John Travolta, Yes, lick your cooter? He did, yes,
several years back.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, okay, I have.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
A few more questions because I've seen your beautiful, beautiful
blonde hair, thanks you flowing all over the internet. And
I saw you, uh, sitting at your desk one day
because you were streaming from your Yes, you were streaming room.
It was your dining room, yes, And I saw you
(10:16):
you were talking to a very very prominent, very demure,
very mindful superstar by the person by the name of
A Saucy Santana and you were you all were in
the closet.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He was in the closet, not me. I've never stopped
inside of a closet before. Actually, I have a walk
not walk in what is it called, just like a
few like little shelves of miles. I don't have an
actual closet. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And so I saw you you are having a conversation,
and we did it got very heated. Can you explain
to us how that happened?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, basically, sorry, there was like a spirit and I
was trying to grasp it and put in my body.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think that that probably was the spirit of home.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No God, no, I would have started rising, was that
it was something else entirely. But yes, I do this
thing sometimes where I go on live and try to
preach the people who I can't touch in person, because
you know, there's lots of people in the world who
can't be in pump Toon't Louisiana all the time. So
I do it like virtually, but clearly he's too far going.
(11:27):
He got a BBL and all kinds of stuff, so
it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But what's fun. I think he's healed now, Yeah, what
makes you think that. I've watched I watched Santana's show,
and Santanna's actually been here.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, the last time I saw him, he was shaking
his cities down on the internet. So I don't think
that's something a straight man will be doing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wait a minute, I say he was healed, not straight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh hell, for one, his hole is here from the
last time. Never mind.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh sorry, I also saw you talking to one of
his friends. Was it Krisha?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Krisha? Yeah, that's a lot. So. Yeah, Laura knows he's
been calling her home for years, but her phone must
be off or some because she just won't go.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She just won't. Do you think she's a homosextion?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You know, I've heard her talk about doing things with
women that's untoured, But I don't think she's fully there now.
I think she has some time to heal, hopefully in
the future, settle down and put all that stuff behind her.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But you don't think that her that she has the
same kind of cooter you got that they could be
nobody has.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's just me, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
How did you know you had that magic? What? What
was it that made you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
My uncle told me. Yeah, my uncle told me. Sorry,
I'm a little bit hot in here visibly.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Can we get up because we don't need her writing
a letter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The thing is when I step into space with a
bunch of Homo Saxons, I tend to get a bit
hot because I can feel that negative energy.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wait a minute, hold on, do you think that I'm
a home section?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No? I don't think so. Okay, I hope not, because
I don't want to be sitting on a podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I would never do that. I wouldn't set you up
like that because one thing, I know, you will write
a letter.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I will. It's already written. I'm just waiting to be said.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh okay, and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They will come and get you me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, I'm of the Lord, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I watched TVN Really Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What's your favorite? What's your favorite? Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What's your favorite segment?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The segment with A Paul and Jim Crouch? Okay they're
both dead though, Well I have no.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Clue who those people out the most becolored.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, Paul and Jim Crouch are not colored. Her hair
used to be colored. It was pink before she passed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That sound like a day them to me. Wait a minute, Oh,
I'm just saying, I don't know anybody up the right
I'm putting on pink in their hair.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Arch, Wait a minute, what's wrong with Niggi's hair?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Ain't nothing wrong with it. I love Nigga and knowage,
I love her to die.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
There it is. Do you see how that fan is
starting to blow your beautiful yea lutious blinding hair? Trusted,
you're trestlie. It is very loud.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that's fine, It's fine, It's fine loud.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, I'll deal with it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I'll do it in church all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So Terry, what church do you?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
What church do you go to? A What church I
usually go to? Usually I only go to the Fellowship
of the Sun. It's one of the major churches in
my neck of the woods.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
The last time, what I saw the Fellowship of the
Sun in Bontop, they were unnecessarily killing people of the night.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well that's not really killing if you think about it,
because they're already dead. Wait, that's just bringing them back
to the Lord where they should be, because the devil
had a hold of them and told them they were
gonna stay on this earth forever. And that's not what
God intended. He intended a circle of life, and they
decided to defy that circle of life when they decided
(15:33):
to become a vampire. But my church we end all
that for him. We end their suffering because that's what
it is. Imagine living for eternity. That's suffering.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But imagine living for eternity and sucking somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's the thing. How you how you how you live
for eternity. But you have to kill other people.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
To so no one has to die, They just have
to be sucked.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, you have to take the of living people for
you to stay alive. That don't make no sense.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So basically, you're gonna sit here on this show and
say that you're your anti vampire.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, yes, they're of the devil. I'm anti everything of
the devil.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Listen, the Lord made everyone.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
He did make humans and animals and things of that nature,
but van version not of nature.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Have you ever been bitten by vampire?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I have not, Thank God. I keep this silver necklace
on me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All is that a cross? What was your first encounter
with Jesus?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
My first encounter with Jesus, Well, long story, but when
I was five years old, I actually was taken to
the church after being brutally beaten by my mama once
she called me and my uncle, but that's not of
the Lord Terry. No, no, no, it was because that's
(16:55):
what he told me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You been with your uncle's not of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, you know, sometimes in the South, things that get
a little bit of like mixy when you're talking about, like,
you know, family members and relationships with family members. It's
just like blurred lines like Robin Thixie. Oh yeah, what
was your mama's name, Ma, Mama Tamberlin, like Chery Lynn
(17:23):
the singer.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But have y'all ever received food stemps?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
No? No, no, no, never. We never take things from
the government. That's a color folk thing. Color folks like
to live off the government. And you know Section eight
food stamps, welfare.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You do know that white women and white people consume
more of governmental benefits than people of color.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That's a lie. That's all propaganda from color folks. So
they want to they don't want to seem like they're
the reason why the economy is the way it is
because they're so lazy. They don't want to it up.
Do no work. I get it, y'all works for a
couple of years, but I'll pay get over itch.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So my question is the price of eggs now, Yes,
it's like four hundred dollars. Yes, you don't receive any
assistance in getting those.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Not because if you were smart, you would have a
couple of chickens in your backyard that would just lay
the eggs for you. It's free.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You see.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The Color folks don't think like they don't have backyards
of living apartments, so it just doesn't work out that way.
But I guess that's just the system that we placed
for y'alls. Is it our fault is yours? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, I'm rich, so I don't believe I don't really
understand the things you know about the price of eggs. Okay,
because I have them imported from China.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh wow, you must do like you know, back door pharmaceuticals. No, no, no,
those are only rich Color folks know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
No, No, I've never done any back to a pharmaceutical
Okay activities. I've done backdoor activities, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, Well that's that's interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I've done a few moments of sodomy.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh, like to yourself or someone doing it to it?
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, if you explain to me the difference in between
the two.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, if you're good, like an enema or something like that,
that's like, you know, that's medical, that's not I've had it.
But if it's for like a sexual reason, then you're
going to hell. Sorry to tell you you're going to hell.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well they say that people going to hell. Do you
really believe in heaven and Hell?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Terry? I do?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Actually, it's in the Bible. I believe everything in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do you eat pork chops?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm sorry I couldn't get the answer straight.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Terry.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you eat pork chops? Noir, Terry? Do you eat
Do you go to red lobster? In the shrimp?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, I've never been ready lost before. That's expensive. I
can't ad nothing like that. No, but I do love shrimp.
You do from the South? M shrimp, mubbugs, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So have you do you put? Uh? Do you mix
linens like polyester? And no? I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I only wear cotton. This right, here's actually homemade cotton
from Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait a minute, huh wait a minute, hold on, Terry, wait, Terry,
you only wear cotton?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Only do you know how many lives were lost because.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh I know, yeah, I know the history of it.
But all things are fair, love and war. God created
cotton for people to consume it in certain ways, not
like eating it. I don't know if that's what y'all
were doing out there when y'all was picking them. But
this is all cotton. Everything. My MoMA makes me as
(21:01):
pure cotton from the backyard.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Herry. Who harvested that cotton?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm not sure who harvested now. I know who harvested then,
but I'm pretty sure it's like a like a meal
these days.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You know, you've spoken many times about abominations, yes and
solo me and sin, and in your answer, i've heard
you participate like what your uncle licking your couder.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Like I said, I was of God because I was
trying to heal him from because I caught him with
my pappy in the closet doing things they shouldn't be doing.
So God called to me one night and said, hey,
I know how you can fix this situation. And I tried.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Didn't work, But he did lick your couter.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Certain occasions, sure.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And he didn't change.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So this means that you're you. It will It could
would you probably say that your couter isn't as blessed
as you think.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You know, sometimes it takes a little time for a
blessing to manifest from ment. So it took a little while.
Like I said, I learned this as an early age
that I had this miracle. But over time it grew
so now it works perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So you could take a homosexual man right now and
he can lick your couter.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Sometimes it doesn't even take that much. Sometimes just takes
shock therapy each of the brain.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But yes, but could he do this in the eyes
of God? Yes, be sure, could And you think that
both of you would go to heaven?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
No, no, I'm going to heaven. I already have like
a written letter from God himself that says I have
one way ticket straight up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Did you find that in the book of Leviticus?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I found it in my pocketbook my stomachs, like you
know it is?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Are you hungry here?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I think so? I told you just that one mill
one mile of day thing.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Would you like some leaving bread?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or I actually know what that is?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You don't. It's in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, Well, like I said, we have two different Bibles,
so your house. Maybe you said something about some leven broad.
I only know about communion. Oh you crackers, Yeah, the
crack of the wine.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh, Terry, you know' I'm noticing as I'm speaking to
you more and more. Yeah, you have an ethnic uh tone? Yes,
are you Terry man? I ask you a question. You
(23:59):
won't be angry at the hole, of course, Terry. Are
you are you really black?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, honey. The thing is, sometimes when I talk to
color folks, I like to relate to them in a
certain way to make them feel more comfortable in my presence,
because you know, I don't want to try to call
me a Karen and nothing like that. So I try to,
you know, do a little a v E here and there.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
When you say.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That's the devil, that's not of God.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Terry, would you like to get you a pork chop? Said?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, I don't eat poor told you that it's just
the gurgles of the mornings. Sometimes it happen to trip.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We don't have an extra pork chop sandwich in the
back because I know, she said, Okay, pounds of crawfish.
Oh so you like crawfee, You do know that crawfish?
It's a shellfish. Well, yes, you do know in Leviticus,
(25:09):
they're your liberty in Leviticus. The King James version who
also was a ho. You do know that consuming shellfish
is an abomination?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yes, in your Bible, and my Bible says nothing of
the sort.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So again I'm gonna ask you, would you like a
pork chopping?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Said, you know what, dot mm hmm, but ten pounds
of crawfish? I would love.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You do know that if you consume the pork chopp
sandwich or the ten pounds of crawfish, you are going
to go to hell.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
No, mm hmm. I already told you.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I have a written letter.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I can do what I want to do. I couldn't
even sleep with a colored man is still going to
have it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Wait wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
would you sleep with the color No?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I would never, only because I don't really like to,
you know, defile the blood line in that way, because
you know why folks are being diminished all throughout the nation,
because they're mixing and mingling.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
With the color folks. I'm trying to figure out here,
ladies and gentlemen, because I'm sitting here and I feel
that I'm sitting in a path of delusion because I've
played this game for a very long time here, and
I'm a bit I'm not confused, but I'm just Terry.
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I'm tired of the charades.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I wouldn't be too if I was a colored
woman in America. There's a lot of charats going on
with y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Because I'm sitting here and ladies and gentlemen, I just
as a as a host of a show. I just
can't do it anymore. Terry, you're black, I'm your hair's
fur c.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's one a.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Bonn top is not in real place it is.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I lived there. I've lived there my whole life, all
twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Terry. We did some discovery here at the Outlaws podcast
with Tea his message, and we found out your true father.
His name was Eddie Long.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Eddie Long, I've never heard of Eddie Long before.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And we also found out while we were digging that
your uncle, uh, it's Pastor TD Jakes.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh well, I've actually heard of Pastor T. D. Jakes.
I went to one of his sermons before. I can't
say that I agree with his take on Christianity.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But and we no relation. Yeah, we we have a
mirror in here, Terry, okay, and they like to show
you that you, Terry, you're black.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, I can see how one would want to relate
to someone like me because you see me and I'm
like benevolent, and you want to see yourself in me. Well,
you want to see a reflection of yourself when you
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see me because you want to be me. However, I
am not a colored woman, Terry.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
We also found out that your mom isn't her name
is it Cheryl Lynn tamer Lynn. Yeah, we just found
your mom's name is pam.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, that's my auntie.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No, No, your mom's name is Pamela Anne.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't think I think you're getting your information from No.
We we looked you at wrong sor Terry.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We look you out, okay. And when we looked you up,
we also found out that not only are you black,
you're a negro.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Ain't done the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, there's a difference being black.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And well, I would love to hear about it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It means your mother was dark skinned, your father was
dark skin. And that hair that you have that you
think is blond, it's for seam. And that's not a
cotton dress, that's a polyester cotton.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Are you fine? Perhaps no, visually in any way, I'm not.
This is the lashes that are probably okay.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's showing me the tru I think you sleep, you know, Terry,
I really like for you to walk in nature. Yes,
And when you go out in nature and God really
blows on you and he takes the crust from your
eyes so that you could see the true nature.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You're a black woman, okay. Like I said before, I
am a Caucasian Christian woman, never been black, never claimed
to be. I don't do no cultural appropriation, So don't
slap me. But I do you know why you're right?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I am?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I am a colored woman. I'm an Asian woman. I'm
a Mexican woman. Hell I maybe even a Canadian because
we're all the same in that way, at the end
of the day, the soul is the same. So if
you're speaking of those terms, yes, I am a colored woman,
that's all. Are you? You may even be white too?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, I'm a colored okay, but my pronouns are they them? Though?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I have to go, no, y'all, I have ago. I
can't stay for much more longer.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You think you're going to go to hell?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah? My things started to burn when you said.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Terry, we want to let you know here the outlawst Podcast, Okay,
is that you can still go to heaven and be black. Yes,
you can still go to heaven and be a woman.
And you can still go to heaven and be they
them and she, No, you.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Cannot because I don't. It's not even real. It's a
made up construct.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
People with green hair. It's a hair dye, that's what
it is. They get their Walmark hair dye, put it
in their hair and it gets into their brain, makes
them things. They're a different gender. It's not true. It's
just simply not true.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Terry. If we here at the show get you some help.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yes, I will love a little help. I can't get
up out this chair.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You can't. No. Is it because you're a descendant of
a woman that was six hundred pounds?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Because I shipped myself. Well, Terry, I need assistance.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well we're gonna get you some assistants here in the
Outlaws Podcast. We're gonna have two men coming in to Okay. Yes,
they we'll be white, but they will look black. Oh,
and they will. They're gonna take you out and they're
going to get you some help, because Terry, we've been
watching you for a very long time. We've been watching
(32:23):
you on Twitter. We've we've been watching you on Yeah
we know you do that too.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, well, we've been watching another time.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
We've been watching you on TikTok. We've seen you live
in this space, and we've been Terry, we've been crying.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah. Well, I love that. I love when color folk
can display empathy because sometimes, you know, it's hard for
them to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Terry, we've been crying for Yeah, we've been We've been
asking the Lord the when we serve black Jesus.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Oh fuck, it's not gonna work out. That's the wrong Jesus,
your prid.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We've been asking our Lord and Savior to heal you
from the delusion of the white the white woman that
you think that you are that lives.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I am it's not a thought, that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Excuse me, white mens a k a black man. Can
y'all help Terry Joe to the there's someone outside waiting
for her. Terry. We also have your your manager here,
and we also have your We have your manager and
your representative is Jalen is jen he oh wait, his
(33:48):
name is ke that's his manager's name, is her black?
We we gotta get Terry some help. Yeah, excuse me?
Can we can we have the men help Terry? Terry,
We're gonna get your pork chop sandwich to while well yeah, okay, okay,
(34:13):
we're gonna get We're gonna get you some crawfish too.
Can y'all walk Terry out first? Please? Teary your knees
are we hear them clacking? Oh? When does white women
have balls? Oh? Honey, this is tears, matters and back
(34:33):
loud live and then color. Honey, where are my cards?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And get me my cars and cars run my back?
Say that next, next.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Car, next card? Remember that from Patty? Oh wait a minute,
are we still with artists? Terry still with us?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
No, I'm just a little slow things.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So it's not Jalen.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
We're changing to the Actually I'm renamed.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I just want to say your alter ego was was
a great person to meet and actually bond with. I've
enjoyed watching your alter ego online for so long, and
I love to see I know that you may not
(35:23):
receive this this whey, but I gave it to sent
down in the same way I look at all of
you as my kids. I get an opportunity to watch
you all thrive and characters and and be uh social
media stars and just make money and live and be
(35:48):
black and you.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Are black god No, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Live and be black entertainers that are thriving and have
as the followings and influence and ship in the world.
And I want you to know as a mother, I'm
very proud.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Thank you. I'm very proud of you as well.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Do you view me as a moment Yes, not a dad.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I was saying more like auntie something like that, you know,
but yes, obviously, like you're like a trailblazer and LGBT
is an LGBT Yeah, so obviously like you're like one
of the for lack of better elders.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And I'm okay with that. And I want you to
understand that you are one day going to aspire and
you're going to be an elder too, and I'm going
to be a grand elder if I'm not already. But
because the world of social media is like this, click,
you know, I'm glad that you're here on the Outlaws podcast.
(36:57):
I want you for those that don't know who you are,
which I don't know where the fuck y'all been at.
There's a segment of our show it's called talk your Shit.
In this segment, I allow my guests to freely just
say brag. Yeah that a bitch. Motherfucking know who you are,
(37:22):
what you do, what you're proud of, how rich you are,
what you command, how many awards you have, all of
this stuff. I want you this is not the time
to be humble. This is the time to lead back
and be like bitch and just go.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
You know, that's kind of hard for me. Why I
don't it's not mean trying to be humble at all,
it either. I just kind of don't like, I don't know,
I don't see anything as like an accolade or something.
So we're like proud of obviously there's stuff to be
proud of, obviously, I don't know. I'm just very like
non excitable about certain things that It's just like when
(38:02):
I'm doing something that's like literally major, like working on
a movie or whatever, or being on stage with Madonna,
it like it doesn't do.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You see those subtle things? Yeah, why don't you? So?
Why don't you do it? Why don't you want to
do it? Direct?
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Direct it because well.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Well, these are the things that I know that people
would be like, oh yeah, that's like, that's like major.
It is interesting to me too. I know that, but
in my head, I'm just I don't know. I don't
know where it comes from.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I just you have to know where it comes from.
It comes from you being black and to be humble.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It comes from you being a new star growing into
being a big star. Yeah, and the words echoing in
the back of your brain be humble. Yeah, God will
take Don't don't ever forget where you come from. You
can't forget where you come from. You cannot forget where
you come from because you work hard so that you're
(39:04):
never there again. So you cannot ever forget where you
come from. So on this show, you have permission to
motherfucking speak out and be like, bitch, I'll give you
an example. You ready, you want to see how it work.
I am ts motherfucking Madison. I am the first black
(39:26):
transgender woman to executive producer and star in her own
reality television series on Earth. I also am on an
Emmy Award winning television show that I'm a judge on.
It's called RuPaul Drag Race, and I have an Emmy.
I am on Beyonce's album The Renaissance. I'm a song too,
which is Cozy. I am an accredited writer on that album,
(39:47):
of which I won a Grammy four. I am also
an executive producer. I am a actress. I am an
award winning ex porno star. I've created You know you
speak with no humility because people will try to smother
(40:09):
you and tell you to slit down, be humble because
they don't want to reach up, or they don't know
how to reach up, or they don't know how to
get those things. It looks to them as if you're bragging,
you're celebrating yourself. Celebrate yourself right now.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
My name is my name is Madison. No, my name
is Klan. It's not so funny, and I'm a drag queen.
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
How many followers do you have?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Three million?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Yeah, performed for them and you've made a massive amount
of yeah, yeah I have.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And yeah, and you've danced with the stars.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Well oh not like literally no, Yes, I have been
on Live with many of your face your face celebrities, Madonna,
dojakat the City Girls, who else?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Who has it?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I have a movie in
the works for the character I created, or characters. I
don't know what else.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Are you rich in spirit?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yes, I'm very comfortable, let's say that.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Are you gay? Oh God?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Sometimes?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Are you by? Are you?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I don't know. I kind of view sexuality as like
a spectrum. Well obviously everyone does, but I don't like
to play it's myself there because I feel like it.
But most for the most part, fluid. Yeah, okay, the
worst part, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Try to man. Oh yeah, are you a man?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Sometimes?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
From Wednesday to Thursday, I was gonna yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I want you to just let it all hang out here.
I want you to feel restricted, yes, said, I don't
want you to feel restricted. I don't want you to
feel like you need to be humble. I don't want
you to feel I want you to celebrate yourself this
because you know, we have been as black people. Once
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we reach once we start getting success, it's always us
that reminds us how we need to stay humble, how
we need to watch what we say, or we can't
bragg on ourselves, or we can't no no, no, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
I don't necessarily think it's that from me. Maybe it's subconsciously.
I don't know. I just feel like nothing really impresses
me in that way. So if I'm not thinking it's
impressive that I don't like, I want to say, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
But why wouldn't it impress you?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I don't know. I'm just not easily impressed.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well, I mean now, like, because I've been in the
business for so long, I've met so many stars and
I have relationships with them in my rolodex. It's full
in my field of people who I'm in business with.
But you still have to have there has to be
some spark of something that makes you tick, steal that
(43:46):
makes you still get up and go like, is there
a dream person that you want to do it? Can
I be honest to tell you that you were? You
were a person and I always wanted to get a
video with Thank you. You're You're a person that I've
always wanted to get a video because I was. I've
always well Terry Joe. I've found Terry Joe, the character
(44:08):
that you created so funny and fascinating, and I've watched
it's like it's like watching a piece of a fragment,
a moment of me dude, because some of those like,
I've never met Madonna. I'd love to meet Madonna. Well,
i'd like her to also pay me liked, but I've
never met her. I've been in proximity. You know. I
(44:31):
don't think she's found me to be, but through you,
she's found it because I see pieces of me and
everything that all the queer kids do. Be Like, y'all
don't watch some tears, Mads and ship y'all seen some
God damn y'all come, you don't see honey, You've seen
(44:55):
something that has made to be like, bitch, I'm gonna recreate.
You've seen something that you and so I when you
guys achieve. This is what I want you to understand.
You're telling me that you're there's a movie being made
off of a character that you created. You know how
(45:16):
much joy that gives me? That gives me so much joy.
I was on the internet long before all of you came,
and to know that there's seeds that I put in
the ground for this stuff to happen, and to see
these things happen for you, all that's to be celebrated.
And even though that you may it may not impress
you because it's just like I celebrate you for that. Yes,
(45:41):
I want you to know that I celebrate we celebrate
you here in this room for that. Because you're a
queer well you you're a queer person and you're black what, yes,
and young and I don't I don't really see you
understand the steps and the strides and the blood and
(46:07):
the tears and the dreams that you carry with you.
So you're you're to celebrate that. Take moments to celebrate that,
take time to be like bitch, motherfucking tarry.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Joke, I get all of them.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, were you raised in church?
Speaker 3 (46:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
I went like a couple of times, like my mom
had like spurt something like oh yeah, we'll go to church,
and then like three days later we're like stay home
and we just didn't go back to church for all.
But no, I've never really been to church like that often.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Where are you originally from? You're from Texas. Do you
have island dissent?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
No? I think my family is mostly from like Louisana,
like the older generation stuff from Louisiana, but they like
migrated to Houston, Oh migrated. But when they moved to Houston,
then like my mom and her mom from then down
(47:16):
lives in Houston, but I think up from there it
was Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So what got you in l A.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
I just everyone was telling me to move here, and
I was like, maybe I should further myself in this
career because it seems like that's where everybody. Everybody moves
to LA when they're in the entertainment industry, and I
wanted to see if it would like change my life
for the.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Right. Yeah, that's why I live in Atlanta and I
come here to work. Well, yes, and then I fly home.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Now I know that that's some thinking about moving back
to Houston, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't think
I'm done with LA for real.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Now I want to ask you about something that I
saw on the internet. Maybe I shouldn't ask you, but
I'm going to it because I've watched everything. What the
fuck happened? Do you know that I wanted to come
through that screen and tear those people to pieces?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I could say.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You don't have to get deep into.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Let's just say the internet makes things look like things
when they're not that thing at all.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Well, were you were you physically harm though.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Not in the slightest.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I was watching the video, and when I watched the video,
maybe yeah, I was twirling.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah to me, I guess I never really watched the
video first because it's just embarrassing to me. But for me,
it last like two seconds, like because you.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Were laughing going outside, were you set up?
Speaker 4 (48:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Was it all like a.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I'm not sure for I was just I was just
saying the whole thing. I don't really care. Basically, I
was drunk at a house party. Sometimes when I get drunk,
I like to cause a little bit of mischief. Yeah. Yeah,
they were like, we're going upstairs. Like I saw my
friends go up the stairs and I was like going
to follow them upstairs, and I thought they're going to
the bathroom about them with them? Two of the people
(49:25):
who lived in the house were like, Oh, we don't
want anybody upstairs. Can y'all go downstairs? The party is
basically over anyways, And I was like, make me go.
And then I was like just joking and I was
like like playfully doing Joe yeah, and then the boy
was like like still talking. After I was like, okay,
I'm over it. As I walked out, and then something
(49:46):
in my head like, go back upstairs and pull his
little dress and then I did, and then he tried
to hit me, and then that's when the whole thing happened.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh you pulled his little dreams. Yeah, so you actually
hit first?
Speaker 4 (49:57):
You No, I just like playfully. I didn't like to
put it like that.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I was like that, were you the only black person
at the party? No, I'm sure, but when I watched
the video, it looked like you were the only black
person at the party.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Well it was mostly Hispanic people, but there was other
black people there. Two of them were my friends one
and they weren't okay.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
So there were three black people at the party.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
I think that was more. But for the majority of
us Hispanic people.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
And so it was all fun for you.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
That's the same.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
But I mean it's okay because because here's the thing
as a black person watching that happen. Yeah, And I
talked about it on my show. On my other show,
I was like, bitch, are we what we're doing? A
lot of people we loaded up in the motherfucker, bitch,
what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (50:55):
A lot of people were like up in arms about it.
And I wanted to say that it wasn't that serious.
But then like I saw how like big.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Guy, it was very big, it was bringing more.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Attention to it. So I just like said nothing.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I said, you said nothing, but we were ready to ride,
especially during this climate we're looking at Wait a minute, hold, I.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Was crazy and really like actually truly like that thing
happened and that like showed me like my like true
impact on people. You didn't know I did, but like
like the thing with me and not really like knowing
the measure of things.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
How do you? Why is it what is it that's
instilled in you that makes you want to want to
remain in a humble space. I don't know how space,
but in a place of like I.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Think I know that is. It's more so like I
don't know. I don't like to get myself excited for
things because I hate being disappointed by stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
What's life. There'll be a green light, then then a
lot will go red, and then it'll get and then
it'll get red. You know, as long as you exist,
it will be up, there will be a heartbeat, It'll
be up and down, up and down, up and down.
The point is to continue to exist when the meter
(52:15):
is beeping or when it's it's going to happen. You
know how many shows I've had Green Lid, Mini, You
know what I mean. It's been pulled off the table, Minnie.
You know I've come back around on a table all
because whatever's supposed to happen for you is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Well, that's that's my way of thinking about stuff, and
that's how I keep myself at this level, because it's
just like.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
When you keep when you keep yourself at that level.
I don't know what you believe in, but I want
you to know that the universe will give you what
you ask for. And if you ask the universe to
give you something and you look at it as a
mediocre thing, yeah, you're telling the universe. Okay, no, bitch,
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I have a television show. I had one season. My
show is neither canceled nor renewed. One day they can
come back to me and say, ts we want to
do a show. We want to redo your show again.
I'm like, Okay, if I got time, we'll do it.
At one point, I was disappointed because they didn't do
(53:25):
it immediately after. But I believe two things were true
in that situation. One, the people that were doing the
show with me wasn't supposed to come the next round.
And two I did not celebrate during that time like
(53:46):
I was supposed to, And the universe is like, are
you Oh that's how you feel? Her? Oh? Is that
how you feel?
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Would that I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Not like grateful, grateful for everything?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
No no, no, no, no no no no, not celebrating the
reasons because it was very much so embedded in me.
Be humble, Be humble, be humble. No, I'll be talking
about my television show, my television show. How you saying
my television show, my television show, because you know what happens.
I'll get another and another and another and another because
(54:25):
I'm I'm I'm screaming to the top of my lung.
That's the The Lord gave me that. The universe, the Lord,
the omnipponent, omnippotent, the off gave me that. And I'll
give me another one. Yes, the thing that's been embedded
in us is people to not celebrate or to be
(54:46):
humble comes from people who ain't got ship going on.
Your impact was that because you pull your camera, you
make us laugh, You've drawn us into your world. We
we we love Terry Joe, We love that she's a
white woman from bun Tom. We love when you. We
just love all of it, every moment of it. And
(55:10):
when we saw our terry Joe being being being jumped
on by people that were not of color, bitch, please, okay,
We're on top of you and you up there swinging
on everybody, and your arm was the only arm, and
(55:30):
I'm like, where are the rest of the arms that's
it's supposed to be? Like there? Didn't you feel away
to trap? Bitch? I was ready to terror.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Bitch?
Speaker 1 (55:39):
What's going on here? And why why are you the
only person at that party and everybody's over there? No, bitch,
I want to kick in the door swinging in for
Ford said, all you heard was Papa, don't hit me.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
That was the response I got from most people. And
then my head. Obviously, I'm thinking of it as like
it was like a silly joke thing. But to y'all,
it was more like heavy because they're like, oh, like
especially like you said, the climate.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Climate that we're in, we are in danger. We're people
of color, black and brown immigrants, like stuff. Did you
see like this? Like wait a minute, you're not finna
do this, bitch. We already going through stuff like this
back up, hold up, because we would ride it down. Yeah,
(56:33):
I want to pivot just a bit for a moment.
What made you create Terry.
Speaker 4 (56:38):
Joab bored m being bored in the house during COVID
nothing to do a little bit of Walmart wine and
a wig and an old moon I had and it
just like happened, Like I just went live and people
asked me like my name, and I made it up
and everything just happens to me and nothing is an
(57:03):
intentional That's why.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
That's the that's you got to pay attention. That's the
universe giving you everything that you've seen when you were
a kid. And that's the universe giving it to you.
And so you must be you must speak it.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
When you leave here, I want to see you speak
it more. Yeah, I wanted to. I want to see you.
Let them host have it, bitch, let them hosts have it. Yeah,
this break? Oh that's my stomach.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Now where's those bound?
Speaker 1 (57:34):
So what do you have? What is your what do
you have coming up? What's your next project? You have?
Speaker 4 (57:38):
Well, I'm currently working on producing writing a movie for
to be with this program that they have called Studios
where they take creators and give them like a bigger
platform to expand upon the world.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yes, oh we need to call.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
Yeah, we're gonna be creating this movie, expanding on the
world of and the other creators that I will creates,
other characters that I created to.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Will you have a role for you? Well, yes, if
you would like to, I would like I love that, Actually,
I would like that. I would feel so honored to
be a part of all the things for sure. Again,
y'all are y'all are my seat that I put in
the ground and.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
I'm a beautiful blossoming flower.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yes, I call your because she's definitely gonna come over,
and I'm saying I'm definitely not ashamed to be like, bitch,
call come over and tear it up.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
Okay, definitely there is I'm already thinking of a spot.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
But yeah, yeah, so are you Are you proud of that?
I am.
Speaker 4 (58:49):
It's like obviously a big achievement, and it's something exciting
and new and something I want for the character or
myself in general, just expansion, something beyond TikTok live even though.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
You make your money, and I want to give you
a little piece of advice. And then we're going to
go to the segment it's called bandon, bitch. Yes, never
leave where you start. Never well, unless it's porn, but
never leave where you your where your roots are, because
one thing they'll do is they'll take you, they'll suck
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you dry, and then they'll take fragments of you and
they'll give it to somebody that doesn't look like you,
and then you'll see yourself up there whatever, and then
your origin story starts where you started, and your people,
those millions of people that they're trying to get will
know that that's plagiarism. So don't ever when you get
(59:50):
through tape and get how y'all I just got through
tape in this movie, I was surrounded by so many
colors of God.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Back.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Always keep keep the peace to that in the back
of your head. Now, there's a sement of our show.
It's called ban it, Bitch.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
In the sement of our show, we take things that
we want to just completely ban. They're banning lbgtqi A books,
they're banning schools, they're even banning our existence. But we're
flipping the script. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
(01:00:26):
going to show you how we do the game.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
We each get a minute and I'm going to kick
it off and I'm going to show you how it works.
Something that I want to ban. Let me think I
want to. I think I can take a piece of
what we talked about here. Hi, y'all. This is TS Madison,
And if I ran the world, I would ban humility.
(01:00:52):
What the fuck do I got to be humble for?
Why is it embedded in us that we have to
be humble about the things that we've worked hard for.
I want to ban people telling me or anybody that's
a creator to sit down and be humble. Bitch. Celebrate yourself,
(01:01:14):
Celebrate what you are, Celebrate what you've done. You have
the right to celebrate what you are, who you are,
and what you've done. You have a right to speak
out loud. I need you motherfucker hoes that ain't got
nothing to do with your life or or don't see
it for anybody else, I need you all to sit down.
Stop telling people don't forget where they come from. You
can't forget where you come from, bitch, because God damn it,
you work hard so that you don't have to go back.
(01:01:35):
And I want to ban anybody that ain't got shit
going on telling me to stay humble, sit down, bitch,
that's how that works. But it doesn't necessarily have to
be that.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Okay, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
My name is.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
And if I were a ruler for a day, I
would ban an equality. Yeah, because I just think that
everybody in the world is clearly like on the same
not the same path, but we are on this big
rock floating in the middle of nowhere. And the fact
that there's like different factions of like people like whether
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it's religion or sexuality, color, and it feels like there's
no unity in the world. I feel like there should
be more of that, more people like supporting other people,
more people like just like banning together to make this
world a better place, because too much of the opposite
(01:02:40):
of that is happening and has been happening for eons.
So yeah, I would love to ban that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
It's banned. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
When you see Terry Joe outside till that bitch, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I want to think both of you for coming being
here on the podcast with me. I'm very proud of you.
I want you to persevere, push forward, and I want
you to win, win, win, and the day that you
go pick up your Emmy Oscar Grammy, Tony, whatever award,
(01:03:20):
I want you to stand in front of the crowd
and say, my aunt t tears. Madisone told me, bitch,
don't you ever, ever ever be ashamed of being great?
And I'm great right now, bitch, and eat this Emmy,
eat this Grammy, eat this Tony because I'm black and
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I was never supposed to have it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Well, thank you. I will keep that in my brain
for when I awards.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Thank you so much, Thank you. Thanks. Did you have
a good time?
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
All right, let's go get a yes and those ten
pounds across.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Outlaws is a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart
Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment. Co created by Tyler Rabinowitz
and Olivia Piece. I'm your host Tias Madison. We are
executive produced by Tyler Rabnowitz, Maya Howard, and Tis Madison.
Our simpervising producer is Jessica Krinchich, and our producers are
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Joey pat and Common Bra. Our video editor is Tyler
Rabinowitz and our sound editor is jes Crimechic. Our associate
producer is Trent high Tower. Special thanks to our producer's assistant,
Daniel Rabinowitz. Our theme song is composed by Wazi. Merritt
Our show art is by Pablo Montinina. Got You Next Week, Honey,
Every time I open up my mouth up and goes out.
Don't wait, no win twenty two inches b BD, bed yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is that up?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Get a job? Ricking, honey, rick hore.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Chasing.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm black like that, he stout living. It's color easy.
This is Outlaws with TS Medicine? Is it on? Is
it on? Honey? Is this bitch recording? Or what's up? Podcast? Lens?
The lens all across the land outside of the podcast leans, honey.
(00:50):
I don't know where y'all at, but listen. You are
now watching and listening to the Outlaws Podcast with T. S. Mesa,
and today I have a very very special guest. She
is a Caucasian woman all the way from Bon Tom.
I mean you may have seen her in so many
(01:11):
different spaces. She washes cars down to Joe's car wash. So, ladies,
jen to please put your hands together for the one,
the only, the infamous and famous Terry Joe. Hi, Hi, Terry, Listen,
you are so beautiful. I think watching you so closely,
(01:31):
I'm gonna get to wait a minute, hold on her,
my greadit is good. I have good.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's the first. That's the first. I'm here from a
colored woman. Oh, Okay, color's got a white man at home.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, actually, I'm black like that. Haven't you heard?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I never heard of her?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now I'm black like that? Okay, yeah, what though like
beyond black?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Beyonce black, but she's like talented.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
She is?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and so am I. Oh okay, what can you
like sing for us?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's called fish? Okay, yes, I'm smelling a little bit
of so I get it again. So, Terry Joe, I
did do a little back story on you from some
my producers in the back were telling me that you
are a Christian woman from montm I am. I've heard
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of this place. I used to see a spot that
was on public television on and then it was a
spot there that I want to always be. It was
called Verlots.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yes, I'm a frequent there. I do love their alligator fritters.
I can say that I agree with the the patrons
of the place because it's a bit rambunctious for me.
But seeing how it is the only restaurant in town,
I'm gonna have to you know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But when you say rambunctiously, yeah, you know, I'm really not.
I don't know how to spell that word, how to
do I just know to say it. Okay, I don't
really know how to pronounce it really well. But you're
a white woman, and so I would expect for you
to it's rambunct rambunctious. Yet, okay, so this that means
it's a lot of color colored people.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There, Oh, not very many color people. A couple of them.
Couple of them work in the back as they should pay.
But mostly just people who are not very crystial like
that's what I mean. Other color not color folks, but
white folks who like you know, do drugs and stuff
like that. But you know, I still clear of them.
Just eat my meal, keep my head down, leave all right. Okay,
(03:44):
So how much do you eat? I don't eat very much. Actually,
A lots of people for some odd reason things that
I eat a lot. But I'm actually down to one
meal a day. I'm mad they call it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, one meal a day summer lots can accommodate that
one meal. No, no, no, I don't eat there that often.
I don't have that much money in the bank account
these days. I got yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Ever since my pap he died, I got to know
to take care of the house stuff. Mama can't work,
so I got to pay the bills and stuff, so
I don't have much money to for leisure.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Stuff with your father. He passed three years ago, he did? Yes,
where did he go two years ago? Where did he go?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To hell? Probably?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yell?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, it's a long story, but long story short. Daddy
was caught in the vampire bars getting his rear end
plunged for lack of a better word, and it actually
ruptured his inside and he bled out and died. So yeah,
he was living a life of seeing him. He's probably
burning the hell right now as we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, you do know that just because you've had anintal
sex doesn't mean that you're going to hell.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, in the Bible it says to me as a sin,
and that literally is the definition of sodomy. So I
think you are going to hell.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Would you know what chapter and what verse?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Chapter and verse? You know it's in Deuteronomy? Uh huh yeah,
chapter six through ten and it's in there Somewhow about sodomy?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, yeah, what about gomorrowy?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't know, you know, I think you just made
that up.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Tomorrow is in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh well, we must be reading the wrong about the
two different Bibles. A color Bible. Oh yeah, you mean
the one that gave to the slaves. Yeah, I think
that's what you read.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh my mine is a bit different. Well as a
white woman from the sound you all gave my people
that we did.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But the thing is, you can't let the colored folk
be in on what the old thing is. You got
to keep them on a lower tier than you they belong.
Sometimes that's just like a predated you know thought.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I don't think that. But that's not of God. Slavery
is not of God.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh no, I never said nothing about slavery. I just mean,
like you know, the right way is usually the right way.
So I'm just saying y'all had a lower tier.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Wait a minute, y'all.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, if the fits, they don't.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This is twelve. Oh oh well, well, Terry, I had
heard through the producers as well that you do a
conversion therapy.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I do. I do quite often.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Actually, can you explain to our viewers out here?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, Ever, since I was a kid, I almost sarted
saying the song. Ever since I was a kid, I
actually have had this adversity towards as versus the word.
I'm not sure I'm from the South, but this thing
towards homoseexus. What it's just really like rides.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's just like wa terry. I'm sorry against what homoseexus.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, men who like me and women who like women
homosexs never heard of no? Oh yeah, I'm surprised because
you know, they run rampant around especially where we are
in Los Angeles right now. They run rampant around here.
So you might want to keep your things close.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But do they steal?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Of course, they still the identities of women. Dress up
like women, thank their women, call themselves different names and
stuff like that. You know, you gotta keep your you
gotta protect your womanhood.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I try to do that with my penties on.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what you got to do. Put a lock on it,
lock and keep Like what is this thing called chastity?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, So in this conversion therapy of with homo homo? Yes,
what how does that process work?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well? Usually it's a few sessions with a therapist and
then if that doesn't work. I have a certain ability
that God has bestowed upon me that I like to
keep under wraps sometimes because if a lot of people
find out about it, I'm like, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're amongst friends and this is a nobody watches it, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
True, besides other colors. And who are they gonna tell?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
KFC.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm sorry, but yeah, basically, my cooter, it's been blessed
by God himself, and I have been known to turn
a couple of homosexuals into heterosexus with just one lick.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Wait, so they licked the cooter.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, sometimes it's licking, sometimes it's penetrating. But it's all
in the name of the Lord. I'm still a virgin.
So yeah, but it's it works, it does, It's worked
on several occasions. As that's why he's staying alive. Yep,
(09:13):
he ain't got that disease. He's staying all the way alive.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, mhm, Terry.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yes, so John Travolta, Yes, lick your cooter? He did, yes,
several years back.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, okay, I have.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
A few more questions because I've seen your beautiful, beautiful
blonde hair, thanks you flowing all over the internet. And
I saw you, uh, sitting at your desk one day
because you were streaming from your Yes, you were streaming room.
It was your dining room, yes, And I saw you
(10:16):
you were talking to a very very prominent, very demure,
very mindful superstar by the person by the name of
A Saucy Santana and you were you all were in
the closet.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He was in the closet, not me. I've never stopped
inside of a closet before. Actually, I have a walk
not walk in what is it called, just like a
few like little shelves of miles. I don't have an
actual closet. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And so I saw you you are having a conversation,
and we did it got very heated. Can you explain
to us how that happened?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, basically, sorry, there was like a spirit and I
was trying to grasp it and put in my body.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think that that probably was the spirit of home.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No God, no, I would have started rising, was that
it was something else entirely. But yes, I do this
thing sometimes where I go on live and try to
preach the people who I can't touch in person, because
you know, there's lots of people in the world who
can't be in pump Toon't Louisiana all the time. So
I do it like virtually, but clearly he's too far going.
(11:27):
He got a BBL and all kinds of stuff, so
it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But what's fun. I think he's healed now, Yeah, what
makes you think that. I've watched I watched Santana's show,
and Santanna's actually been here.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, the last time I saw him, he was shaking
his cities down on the internet. So I don't think
that's something a straight man will be doing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wait a minute, I say he was healed, not straight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh hell, for one, his hole is here from the
last time. Never mind.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh sorry, I also saw you talking to one of
his friends. Was it Krisha?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Krisha? Yeah, that's a lot. So. Yeah, Laura knows he's
been calling her home for years, but her phone must
be off or some because she just won't go.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She just won't. Do you think she's a homosextion?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You know, I've heard her talk about doing things with
women that's untoured, But I don't think she's fully there now.
I think she has some time to heal, hopefully in
the future, settle down and put all that stuff behind her.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But you don't think that her that she has the
same kind of cooter you got that they could be
nobody has.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's just me, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
How did you know you had that magic? What? What
was it that made you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
My uncle told me. Yeah, my uncle told me. Sorry,
I'm a little bit hot in here visibly.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Can we get up because we don't need her writing
a letter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The thing is when I step into space with a
bunch of Homo Saxons, I tend to get a bit
hot because I can feel that negative energy.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wait a minute, hold on, do you think that I'm
a home section?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No? I don't think so. Okay, I hope not, because
I don't want to be sitting on a podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I would never do that. I wouldn't set you up
like that because one thing, I know, you will write
a letter.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I will. It's already written. I'm just waiting to be said.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh okay, and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They will come and get you me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, I'm of the Lord, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I watched TVN Really Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What's your favorite? What's your favorite? Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What's your favorite segment?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The segment with A Paul and Jim Crouch? Okay they're
both dead though, Well I have no.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Clue who those people out the most becolored.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, Paul and Jim Crouch are not colored. Her hair
used to be colored. It was pink before she passed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That sound like a day them to me. Wait a minute, Oh,
I'm just saying, I don't know anybody up the right
I'm putting on pink in their hair.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Arch, Wait a minute, what's wrong with Niggi's hair?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Ain't nothing wrong with it. I love Nigga and knowage,
I love her to die.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
There it is. Do you see how that fan is
starting to blow your beautiful yea lutious blinding hair? Trusted,
you're trestlie. It is very loud.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that's fine, It's fine, It's fine loud.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, I'll deal with it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I'll do it in church all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So Terry, what church do you?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
What church do you go to? A What church I
usually go to? Usually I only go to the Fellowship
of the Sun. It's one of the major churches in
my neck of the woods.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
The last time, what I saw the Fellowship of the
Sun in Bontop, they were unnecessarily killing people of the night.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well that's not really killing if you think about it,
because they're already dead. Wait, that's just bringing them back
to the Lord where they should be, because the devil
had a hold of them and told them they were
gonna stay on this earth forever. And that's not what
God intended. He intended a circle of life, and they
decided to defy that circle of life when they decided
(15:33):
to become a vampire. But my church we end all
that for him. We end their suffering because that's what
it is. Imagine living for eternity. That's suffering.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But imagine living for eternity and sucking somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's the thing. How you how you how you live
for eternity. But you have to kill other people.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
To so no one has to die, They just have
to be sucked.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, you have to take the of living people for
you to stay alive. That don't make no sense.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So basically, you're gonna sit here on this show and
say that you're your anti vampire.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, yes, they're of the devil. I'm anti everything of
the devil.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Listen, the Lord made everyone.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
He did make humans and animals and things of that nature,
but van version not of nature.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Have you ever been bitten by vampire?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I have not, Thank God. I keep this silver necklace
on me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All is that a cross? What was your first encounter
with Jesus?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
My first encounter with Jesus, Well, long story, but when
I was five years old, I actually was taken to
the church after being brutally beaten by my mama once
she called me and my uncle, but that's not of
the Lord Terry. No, no, no, it was because that's
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what he told me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You been with your uncle's not of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, you know, sometimes in the South, things that get
a little bit of like mixy when you're talking about, like,
you know, family members and relationships with family members. It's
just like blurred lines like Robin Thixie. Oh yeah, what
was your mama's name, Ma, Mama Tamberlin, like Chery Lynn
(17:23):
the singer.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But have y'all ever received food stemps?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
No? No, no, no, never. We never take things from
the government. That's a color folk thing. Color folks like
to live off the government. And you know Section eight
food stamps, welfare.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You do know that white women and white people consume
more of governmental benefits than people of color.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That's a lie. That's all propaganda from color folks. So
they want to they don't want to seem like they're
the reason why the economy is the way it is
because they're so lazy. They don't want to it up.
Do no work. I get it, y'all works for a
couple of years, but I'll pay get over itch.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So my question is the price of eggs now, Yes,
it's like four hundred dollars. Yes, you don't receive any
assistance in getting those.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Not because if you were smart, you would have a
couple of chickens in your backyard that would just lay
the eggs for you. It's free.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You see.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The Color folks don't think like they don't have backyards
of living apartments, so it just doesn't work out that way.
But I guess that's just the system that we placed
for y'alls. Is it our fault is yours? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, I'm rich, so I don't believe I don't really
understand the things you know about the price of eggs. Okay,
because I have them imported from China.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh wow, you must do like you know, back door pharmaceuticals. No, no, no,
those are only rich Color folks know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
No, No, I've never done any back to a pharmaceutical
Okay activities. I've done backdoor activities, yes.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, Well that's that's interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I've done a few moments of sodomy.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh, like to yourself or someone doing it to it?
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, if you explain to me the difference in between
the two.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, if you're good, like an enema or something like that,
that's like, you know, that's medical, that's not I've had it.
But if it's for like a sexual reason, then you're
going to hell. Sorry to tell you you're going to hell.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well they say that people going to hell. Do you
really believe in heaven and Hell?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Terry? I do?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Actually, it's in the Bible. I believe everything in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do you eat pork chops?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm sorry I couldn't get the answer straight.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Terry.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you eat pork chops? Noir, Terry? Do you eat
Do you go to red lobster? In the shrimp?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, I've never been ready lost before. That's expensive. I
can't ad nothing like that. No, but I do love shrimp.
You do from the South? M shrimp, mubbugs, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So have you do you put? Uh? Do you mix
linens like polyester? And no? I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I only wear cotton. This right, here's actually homemade cotton
from Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait a minute, huh wait a minute, hold on, Terry, wait, Terry,
you only wear cotton?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Only do you know how many lives were lost because.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh I know, yeah, I know the history of it.
But all things are fair, love and war. God created
cotton for people to consume it in certain ways, not
like eating it. I don't know if that's what y'all
were doing out there when y'all was picking them. But
this is all cotton. Everything. My MoMA makes me as
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pure cotton from the backyard.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Herry. Who harvested that cotton?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm not sure who harvested now. I know who harvested then,
but I'm pretty sure it's like a like a meal
these days.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You know, you've spoken many times about abominations, yes and
solo me and sin, and in your answer, i've heard
you participate like what your uncle licking your couder.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Like I said, I was of God because I was
trying to heal him from because I caught him with
my pappy in the closet doing things they shouldn't be doing.
So God called to me one night and said, hey,
I know how you can fix this situation. And I tried.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Didn't work, But he did lick your couter.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Certain occasions, sure.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And he didn't change.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So this means that you're you. It will It could
would you probably say that your couter isn't as blessed
as you think.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You know, sometimes it takes a little time for a
blessing to manifest from ment. So it took a little while.
Like I said, I learned this as an early age
that I had this miracle. But over time it grew
so now it works perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So you could take a homosexual man right now and
he can lick your couter.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Sometimes it doesn't even take that much. Sometimes just takes
shock therapy each of the brain.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But yes, but could he do this in the eyes
of God? Yes, be sure, could And you think that
both of you would go to heaven?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
No, no, I'm going to heaven. I already have like
a written letter from God himself that says I have
one way ticket straight up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Did you find that in the book of Leviticus?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I found it in my pocketbook my stomachs, like you
know it is?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Are you hungry here?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I think so? I told you just that one mill
one mile of day thing.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Would you like some leaving bread?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or I actually know what that is?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You don't. It's in the Bible.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, Well, like I said, we have two different Bibles,
so your house. Maybe you said something about some leven broad.
I only know about communion. Oh you crackers, Yeah, the
crack of the wine.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh, Terry, you know' I'm noticing as I'm speaking to
you more and more. Yeah, you have an ethnic uh tone? Yes,
are you Terry man? I ask you a question. You
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won't be angry at the hole, of course, Terry. Are
you are you really black?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, honey. The thing is, sometimes when I talk to
color folks, I like to relate to them in a
certain way to make them feel more comfortable in my presence,
because you know, I don't want to try to call
me a Karen and nothing like that. So I try to,
you know, do a little a v E here and there.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
When you say.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That's the devil, that's not of God.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Terry, would you like to get you a pork chop? Said?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, I don't eat poor told you that it's just
the gurgles of the mornings. Sometimes it happen to trip.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We don't have an extra pork chop sandwich in the
back because I know, she said, Okay, pounds of crawfish.
Oh so you like crawfee, You do know that crawfish?
It's a shellfish. Well, yes, you do know in Leviticus,
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they're your liberty in Leviticus. The King James version who
also was a ho. You do know that consuming shellfish
is an abomination?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yes, in your Bible, and my Bible says nothing of
the sort.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So again I'm gonna ask you, would you like a
pork chopping?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Said, you know what, dot mm hmm, but ten pounds
of crawfish? I would love.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You do know that if you consume the pork chopp
sandwich or the ten pounds of crawfish, you are going
to go to hell.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
No, mm hmm. I already told you.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I have a written letter.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I can do what I want to do. I couldn't
even sleep with a colored man is still going to
have it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Wait wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
would you sleep with the color No?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I would never, only because I don't really like to,
you know, defile the blood line in that way, because
you know why folks are being diminished all throughout the nation,
because they're mixing and mingling.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
With the color folks. I'm trying to figure out here,
ladies and gentlemen, because I'm sitting here and I feel
that I'm sitting in a path of delusion because I've
played this game for a very long time here, and
I'm a bit I'm not confused, but I'm just Terry.
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I'm tired of the charades.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I wouldn't be too if I was a colored
woman in America. There's a lot of charats going on
with y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Because I'm sitting here and ladies and gentlemen, I just
as a as a host of a show. I just
can't do it anymore. Terry, you're black, I'm your hair's
fur c.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's one a.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Bonn top is not in real place it is.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I lived there. I've lived there my whole life, all
twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Terry. We did some discovery here at the Outlaws podcast
with Tea his message, and we found out your true father.
His name was Eddie Long.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Eddie Long, I've never heard of Eddie Long before.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And we also found out while we were digging that
your uncle, uh, it's Pastor TD Jakes.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh well, I've actually heard of Pastor T. D. Jakes.
I went to one of his sermons before. I can't
say that I agree with his take on Christianity.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But and we no relation. Yeah, we we have a
mirror in here, Terry, okay, and they like to show
you that you, Terry, you're black.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, I can see how one would want to relate
to someone like me because you see me and I'm
like benevolent, and you want to see yourself in me. Well,
you want to see a reflection of yourself when you
(28:26):
see me because you want to be me. However, I
am not a colored woman, Terry.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
We also found out that your mom isn't her name
is it Cheryl Lynn tamer Lynn. Yeah, we just found
your mom's name is pam.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, that's my auntie.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No, No, your mom's name is Pamela Anne.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't think I think you're getting your information from No.
We we looked you at wrong sor Terry.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We look you out, okay. And when we looked you up,
we also found out that not only are you black,
you're a negro.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Ain't done the same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, there's a difference being black.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And well, I would love to hear about it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It means your mother was dark skinned, your father was
dark skin. And that hair that you have that you
think is blond, it's for seam. And that's not a
cotton dress, that's a polyester cotton.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Are you fine? Perhaps no, visually in any way, I'm not.
This is the lashes that are probably okay.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's showing me the tru I think you sleep, you know, Terry,
I really like for you to walk in nature. Yes,
And when you go out in nature and God really
blows on you and he takes the crust from your
eyes so that you could see the true nature.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You're a black woman, okay. Like I said before, I
am a Caucasian Christian woman, never been black, never claimed
to be. I don't do no cultural appropriation, So don't
slap me. But I do you know why you're right?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I am?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I am a colored woman. I'm an Asian woman. I'm
a Mexican woman. Hell I maybe even a Canadian because
we're all the same in that way, at the end
of the day, the soul is the same. So if
you're speaking of those terms, yes, I am a colored woman,
that's all. Are you? You may even be white too?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, I'm a colored okay, but my pronouns are they them? Though?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I have to go, no, y'all, I have ago. I
can't stay for much more longer.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You think you're going to go to hell?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah? My things started to burn when you said.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Terry, we want to let you know here the outlawst Podcast, Okay,
is that you can still go to heaven and be black. Yes,
you can still go to heaven and be a woman.
And you can still go to heaven and be they
them and she, No, you.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Cannot because I don't. It's not even real. It's a
made up construct.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
People with green hair. It's a hair dye, that's what
it is. They get their Walmark hair dye, put it
in their hair and it gets into their brain, makes
them things. They're a different gender. It's not true. It's
just simply not true.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Terry. If we here at the show get you some help.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yes, I will love a little help. I can't get
up out this chair.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You can't. No. Is it because you're a descendant of
a woman that was six hundred pounds?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Because I shipped myself. Well, Terry, I need assistance.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well we're gonna get you some assistants here in the
Outlaws Podcast. We're gonna have two men coming in to Okay. Yes,
they we'll be white, but they will look black. Oh,
and they will. They're gonna take you out and they're
going to get you some help, because Terry, we've been
watching you for a very long time. We've been watching
(32:23):
you on Twitter. We've we've been watching you on Yeah
we know you do that too.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, well, we've been watching another time.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
We've been watching you on TikTok. We've seen you live
in this space, and we've been Terry, we've been crying.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah. Well, I love that. I love when color folk
can display empathy because sometimes, you know, it's hard for
them to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Terry, we've been crying for Yeah, we've been We've been
asking the Lord the when we serve black Jesus.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Oh fuck, it's not gonna work out. That's the wrong Jesus,
your prid.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We've been asking our Lord and Savior to heal you
from the delusion of the white the white woman that
you think that you are that lives.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I am it's not a thought, that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Excuse me, white mens a k a black man. Can
y'all help Terry Joe to the there's someone outside waiting
for her. Terry. We also have your your manager here,
and we also have your We have your manager and
your representative is Jalen is jen he oh wait, his
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name is ke that's his manager's name, is her black?
We we gotta get Terry some help. Yeah, excuse me?
Can we can we have the men help Terry? Terry,
We're gonna get your pork chop sandwich to while well yeah, okay, okay,
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we're gonna get We're gonna get you some crawfish too.
Can y'all walk Terry out first? Please? Teary your knees
are we hear them clacking? Oh? When does white women
have balls? Oh? Honey, this is tears, matters and back
(34:33):
loud live and then color. Honey, where are my cards?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And get me my cars and cars run my back?
Say that next, next.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Car, next card? Remember that from Patty? Oh wait a minute,
are we still with artists? Terry still with us?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
No, I'm just a little slow things.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So it's not Jalen.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
We're changing to the Actually I'm renamed.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I just want to say your alter ego was was
a great person to meet and actually bond with. I've
enjoyed watching your alter ego online for so long, and
I love to see I know that you may not
(35:23):
receive this this whey, but I gave it to sent
down in the same way I look at all of
you as my kids. I get an opportunity to watch
you all thrive and characters and and be uh social
media stars and just make money and live and be
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black and you.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Are black god No, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Live and be black entertainers that are thriving and have
as the followings and influence and ship in the world.
And I want you to know as a mother, I'm
very proud.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Thank you. I'm very proud of you as well.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Do you view me as a moment Yes, not a dad.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I was saying more like auntie something like that, you know,
but yes, obviously, like you're like a trailblazer and LGBT
is an LGBT Yeah, so obviously like you're like one
of the for lack of better elders.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And I'm okay with that. And I want you to
understand that you are one day going to aspire and
you're going to be an elder too, and I'm going
to be a grand elder if I'm not already. But
because the world of social media is like this, click,
you know, I'm glad that you're here on the Outlaws podcast.
(36:57):
I want you for those that don't know who you are,
which I don't know where the fuck y'all been at.
There's a segment of our show it's called talk your Shit.
In this segment, I allow my guests to freely just
say brag. Yeah that a bitch. Motherfucking know who you are,
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what you do, what you're proud of, how rich you are,
what you command, how many awards you have, all of
this stuff. I want you this is not the time
to be humble. This is the time to lead back
and be like bitch and just go.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
You know, that's kind of hard for me. Why I
don't it's not mean trying to be humble at all,
it either. I just kind of don't like, I don't know,
I don't see anything as like an accolade or something.
So we're like proud of obviously there's stuff to be
proud of, obviously, I don't know. I'm just very like
non excitable about certain things that It's just like when
(38:02):
I'm doing something that's like literally major, like working on
a movie or whatever, or being on stage with Madonna,
it like it doesn't do.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You see those subtle things? Yeah, why don't you? So?
Why don't you do it? Why don't you want to
do it? Direct?
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Direct it because well.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Well, these are the things that I know that people
would be like, oh yeah, that's like, that's like major.
It is interesting to me too. I know that, but
in my head, I'm just I don't know. I don't
know where it comes from.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I just you have to know where it comes from.
It comes from you being black and to be humble.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It comes from you being a new star growing into
being a big star. Yeah, and the words echoing in
the back of your brain be humble. Yeah, God will
take Don't don't ever forget where you come from. You
can't forget where you come from. You cannot forget where
you come from because you work hard so that you're
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never there again. So you cannot ever forget where you
come from. So on this show, you have permission to
motherfucking speak out and be like, bitch, I'll give you
an example. You ready, you want to see how it work.
I am ts motherfucking Madison. I am the first black
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transgender woman to executive producer and star in her own
reality television series on Earth. I also am on an
Emmy Award winning television show that I'm a judge on.
It's called RuPaul Drag Race, and I have an Emmy.
I am on Beyonce's album The Renaissance. I'm a song too,
which is Cozy. I am an accredited writer on that album,
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of which I won a Grammy four. I am also
an executive producer. I am a actress. I am an
award winning ex porno star. I've created You know you
speak with no humility because people will try to smother
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you and tell you to slit down, be humble because
they don't want to reach up, or they don't know
how to reach up, or they don't know how to
get those things. It looks to them as if you're bragging,
you're celebrating yourself. Celebrate yourself right now.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
My name is my name is Madison. No, my name
is Klan. It's not so funny, and I'm a drag queen.
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
How many followers do you have?
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Three million?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Yeah, performed for them and you've made a massive amount
of yeah, yeah I have.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And yeah, and you've danced with the stars.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Well oh not like literally no, Yes, I have been
on Live with many of your face your face celebrities, Madonna,
dojakat the City Girls, who else?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Who has it?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I have a movie in
the works for the character I created, or characters. I
don't know what else.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Are you rich in spirit?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yes, I'm very comfortable, let's say that.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Are you gay? Oh God?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Sometimes?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Are you by? Are you?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I don't know. I kind of view sexuality as like
a spectrum. Well obviously everyone does, but I don't like
to play it's myself there because I feel like it.
But most for the most part, fluid. Yeah, okay, the
worst part, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Try to man. Oh yeah, are you a man?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Sometimes?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
From Wednesday to Thursday, I was gonna yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I want you to just let it all hang out here.
I want you to feel restricted, yes, said, I don't
want you to feel restricted. I don't want you to
feel like you need to be humble. I don't want
you to feel I want you to celebrate yourself this
because you know, we have been as black people. Once
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we reach once we start getting success, it's always us
that reminds us how we need to stay humble, how
we need to watch what we say, or we can't
bragg on ourselves, or we can't no no, no, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
I don't necessarily think it's that from me. Maybe it's subconsciously.
I don't know. I just feel like nothing really impresses
me in that way. So if I'm not thinking it's
impressive that I don't like, I want to say, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
But why wouldn't it impress you?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I don't know. I'm just not easily impressed.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well, I mean now, like, because I've been in the
business for so long, I've met so many stars and
I have relationships with them in my rolodex. It's full
in my field of people who I'm in business with.
But you still have to have there has to be
some spark of something that makes you tick, steal that
(43:46):
makes you still get up and go like, is there
a dream person that you want to do it? Can
I be honest to tell you that you were? You
were a person and I always wanted to get a
video with Thank you. You're You're a person that I've
always wanted to get a video because I was. I've
always well Terry Joe. I've found Terry Joe, the character
(44:08):
that you created so funny and fascinating, and I've watched
it's like it's like watching a piece of a fragment,
a moment of me dude, because some of those like,
I've never met Madonna. I'd love to meet Madonna. Well,
i'd like her to also pay me liked, but I've
never met her. I've been in proximity. You know. I
(44:31):
don't think she's found me to be, but through you,
she's found it because I see pieces of me and
everything that all the queer kids do. Be Like, y'all
don't watch some tears, Mads and ship y'all seen some
God damn y'all come, you don't see honey, You've seen
(44:55):
something that has made to be like, bitch, I'm gonna recreate.
You've seen something that you and so I when you
guys achieve. This is what I want you to understand.
You're telling me that you're there's a movie being made
off of a character that you created. You know how
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much joy that gives me? That gives me so much joy.
I was on the internet long before all of you came,
and to know that there's seeds that I put in
the ground for this stuff to happen, and to see
these things happen for you, all that's to be celebrated.
And even though that you may it may not impress
you because it's just like I celebrate you for that. Yes,
(45:41):
I want you to know that I celebrate we celebrate
you here in this room for that. Because you're a
queer well you you're a queer person and you're black what, yes,
and young and I don't I don't really see you
understand the steps and the strides and the blood and
(46:07):
the tears and the dreams that you carry with you.
So you're you're to celebrate that. Take moments to celebrate that,
take time to be like bitch, motherfucking tarry.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Joke, I get all of them.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, were you raised in church?
Speaker 3 (46:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
I went like a couple of times, like my mom
had like spurt something like oh yeah, we'll go to church,
and then like three days later we're like stay home
and we just didn't go back to church for all.
But no, I've never really been to church like that often.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Where are you originally from? You're from Texas. Do you
have island dissent?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
No? I think my family is mostly from like Louisana,
like the older generation stuff from Louisiana, but they like
migrated to Houston, Oh migrated. But when they moved to Houston,
then like my mom and her mom from then down
(47:16):
lives in Houston, but I think up from there it
was Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So what got you in l A.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
I just everyone was telling me to move here, and
I was like, maybe I should further myself in this
career because it seems like that's where everybody. Everybody moves
to LA when they're in the entertainment industry, and I
wanted to see if it would like change my life
for the.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Right. Yeah, that's why I live in Atlanta and I
come here to work. Well, yes, and then I fly home.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Now I know that that's some thinking about moving back
to Houston, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't think
I'm done with LA for real.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Now I want to ask you about something that I
saw on the internet. Maybe I shouldn't ask you, but
I'm going to it because I've watched everything. What the
fuck happened? Do you know that I wanted to come
through that screen and tear those people to pieces?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I could say.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You don't have to get deep into.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Let's just say the internet makes things look like things
when they're not that thing at all.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Well, were you were you physically harm though.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Not in the slightest.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I was watching the video, and when I watched the video,
maybe yeah, I was twirling.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah to me, I guess I never really watched the
video first because it's just embarrassing to me. But for me,
it last like two seconds, like because you.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Were laughing going outside, were you set up?
Speaker 4 (48:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Was it all like a.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I'm not sure for I was just I was just
saying the whole thing. I don't really care. Basically, I
was drunk at a house party. Sometimes when I get drunk,
I like to cause a little bit of mischief. Yeah. Yeah,
they were like, we're going upstairs. Like I saw my
friends go up the stairs and I was like going
to follow them upstairs, and I thought they're going to
the bathroom about them with them? Two of the people
(49:25):
who lived in the house were like, Oh, we don't
want anybody upstairs. Can y'all go downstairs? The party is
basically over anyways, And I was like, make me go.
And then I was like just joking and I was
like like playfully doing Joe yeah, and then the boy
was like like still talking. After I was like, okay,
I'm over it. As I walked out, and then something
(49:46):
in my head like, go back upstairs and pull his
little dress and then I did, and then he tried
to hit me, and then that's when the whole thing happened.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh you pulled his little dreams. Yeah, so you actually
hit first?
Speaker 4 (49:57):
You No, I just like playfully. I didn't like to
put it like that.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I was like that, were you the only black person
at the party? No, I'm sure, but when I watched
the video, it looked like you were the only black
person at the party.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Well it was mostly Hispanic people, but there was other
black people there. Two of them were my friends one
and they weren't okay.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
So there were three black people at the party.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
I think that was more. But for the majority of
us Hispanic people.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
And so it was all fun for you.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
That's the same.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
But I mean it's okay because because here's the thing
as a black person watching that happen. Yeah, And I
talked about it on my show. On my other show,
I was like, bitch, are we what we're doing? A
lot of people we loaded up in the motherfucker, bitch,
what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (50:55):
A lot of people were like up in arms about it.
And I wanted to say that it wasn't that serious.
But then like I saw how like big.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Guy, it was very big, it was bringing more.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Attention to it. So I just like said nothing.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I said, you said nothing, but we were ready to ride,
especially during this climate we're looking at Wait a minute, hold, I.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Was crazy and really like actually truly like that thing
happened and that like showed me like my like true
impact on people. You didn't know I did, but like
like the thing with me and not really like knowing
the measure of things.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
How do you? Why is it what is it that's
instilled in you that makes you want to want to
remain in a humble space. I don't know how space,
but in a place of like I.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Think I know that is. It's more so like I
don't know. I don't like to get myself excited for
things because I hate being disappointed by stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
What's life. There'll be a green light, then then a
lot will go red, and then it'll get and then
it'll get red. You know, as long as you exist,
it will be up, there will be a heartbeat, It'll
be up and down, up and down, up and down.
The point is to continue to exist when the meter
(52:15):
is beeping or when it's it's going to happen. You
know how many shows I've had Green Lid, Mini, You
know what I mean. It's been pulled off the table, Minnie.
You know I've come back around on a table all
because whatever's supposed to happen for you is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Well, that's that's my way of thinking about stuff, and
that's how I keep myself at this level, because it's
just like.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
When you keep when you keep yourself at that level.
I don't know what you believe in, but I want
you to know that the universe will give you what
you ask for. And if you ask the universe to
give you something and you look at it as a
mediocre thing, yeah, you're telling the universe. Okay, no, bitch,
(53:04):
I have a television show. I had one season. My
show is neither canceled nor renewed. One day they can
come back to me and say, ts we want to
do a show. We want to redo your show again.
I'm like, Okay, if I got time, we'll do it.
At one point, I was disappointed because they didn't do
(53:25):
it immediately after. But I believe two things were true
in that situation. One, the people that were doing the
show with me wasn't supposed to come the next round.
And two I did not celebrate during that time like
(53:46):
I was supposed to, And the universe is like, are
you Oh that's how you feel? Her? Oh? Is that
how you feel?
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Would that I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Not like grateful, grateful for everything?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
No no, no, no, no no no no, not celebrating the
reasons because it was very much so embedded in me.
Be humble, Be humble, be humble. No, I'll be talking
about my television show, my television show. How you saying
my television show, my television show, because you know what happens.
I'll get another and another and another and another because
(54:25):
I'm I'm I'm screaming to the top of my lung.
That's the The Lord gave me that. The universe, the Lord,
the omnipponent, omnippotent, the off gave me that. And I'll
give me another one. Yes, the thing that's been embedded
in us is people to not celebrate or to be
(54:46):
humble comes from people who ain't got ship going on.
Your impact was that because you pull your camera, you
make us laugh, You've drawn us into your world. We
we we love Terry Joe, We love that she's a
white woman from bun Tom. We love when you. We
just love all of it, every moment of it. And
(55:10):
when we saw our terry Joe being being being jumped
on by people that were not of color, bitch, please, okay,
We're on top of you and you up there swinging
on everybody, and your arm was the only arm, and
(55:30):
I'm like, where are the rest of the arms that's
it's supposed to be? Like there? Didn't you feel away
to trap? Bitch? I was ready to terror.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Bitch?
Speaker 1 (55:39):
What's going on here? And why why are you the
only person at that party and everybody's over there? No, bitch,
I want to kick in the door swinging in for
Ford said, all you heard was Papa, don't hit me.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
That was the response I got from most people. And
then my head. Obviously, I'm thinking of it as like
it was like a silly joke thing. But to y'all,
it was more like heavy because they're like, oh, like
especially like you said, the climate.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Climate that we're in, we are in danger. We're people
of color, black and brown immigrants, like stuff. Did you
see like this? Like wait a minute, you're not finna
do this, bitch. We already going through stuff like this
back up, hold up, because we would ride it down. Yeah,
(56:33):
I want to pivot just a bit for a moment.
What made you create Terry.
Speaker 4 (56:38):
Joab bored m being bored in the house during COVID
nothing to do a little bit of Walmart wine and
a wig and an old moon I had and it
just like happened, Like I just went live and people
asked me like my name, and I made it up
and everything just happens to me and nothing is an
(57:03):
intentional That's why.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
That's the that's you got to pay attention. That's the
universe giving you everything that you've seen when you were
a kid. And that's the universe giving it to you.
And so you must be you must speak it.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
When you leave here, I want to see you speak
it more. Yeah, I wanted to. I want to see you.
Let them host have it, bitch, let them hosts have it. Yeah,
this break? Oh that's my stomach.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Now where's those bound?
Speaker 1 (57:34):
So what do you have? What is your what do
you have coming up? What's your next project? You have?
Speaker 4 (57:38):
Well, I'm currently working on producing writing a movie for
to be with this program that they have called Studios
where they take creators and give them like a bigger
platform to expand upon the world.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yes, oh we need to call.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
Yeah, we're gonna be creating this movie, expanding on the
world of and the other creators that I will creates,
other characters that I created to.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Will you have a role for you? Well, yes, if
you would like to, I would like I love that, Actually,
I would like that. I would feel so honored to
be a part of all the things for sure. Again,
y'all are y'all are my seat that I put in
the ground and.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
I'm a beautiful blossoming flower.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yes, I call your because she's definitely gonna come over,
and I'm saying I'm definitely not ashamed to be like, bitch,
call come over and tear it up.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
Okay, definitely there is I'm already thinking of a spot.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
But yeah, yeah, so are you Are you proud of that?
I am.
Speaker 4 (58:49):
It's like obviously a big achievement, and it's something exciting
and new and something I want for the character or
myself in general, just expansion, something beyond TikTok live even though.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
You make your money, and I want to give you
a little piece of advice. And then we're going to
go to the segment it's called bandon, bitch. Yes, never
leave where you start. Never well, unless it's porn, but
never leave where you your where your roots are, because
one thing they'll do is they'll take you, they'll suck
(59:27):
you dry, and then they'll take fragments of you and
they'll give it to somebody that doesn't look like you,
and then you'll see yourself up there whatever, and then
your origin story starts where you started, and your people,
those millions of people that they're trying to get will
know that that's plagiarism. So don't ever when you get
(59:50):
through tape and get how y'all I just got through
tape in this movie, I was surrounded by so many
colors of God.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Back.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Always keep keep the peace to that in the back
of your head. Now, there's a sement of our show.
It's called ban it, Bitch.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
In the sement of our show, we take things that
we want to just completely ban. They're banning lbgtqi A books,
they're banning schools, they're even banning our existence. But we're
flipping the script. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
(01:00:26):
going to show you how we do the game.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
We each get a minute and I'm going to kick
it off and I'm going to show you how it works.
Something that I want to ban. Let me think I
want to. I think I can take a piece of
what we talked about here. Hi, y'all. This is TS Madison,
And if I ran the world, I would ban humility.
(01:00:52):
What the fuck do I got to be humble for?
Why is it embedded in us that we have to
be humble about the things that we've worked hard for.
I want to ban people telling me or anybody that's
a creator to sit down and be humble. Bitch. Celebrate yourself,
(01:01:14):
Celebrate what you are, Celebrate what you've done. You have
the right to celebrate what you are, who you are,
and what you've done. You have a right to speak
out loud. I need you motherfucker hoes that ain't got
nothing to do with your life or or don't see
it for anybody else, I need you all to sit down.
Stop telling people don't forget where they come from. You
can't forget where you come from, bitch, because God damn it,
you work hard so that you don't have to go back.
(01:01:35):
And I want to ban anybody that ain't got shit
going on telling me to stay humble, sit down, bitch,
that's how that works. But it doesn't necessarily have to
be that.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Okay, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
My name is.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
And if I were a ruler for a day, I
would ban an equality. Yeah, because I just think that
everybody in the world is clearly like on the same
not the same path, but we are on this big
rock floating in the middle of nowhere. And the fact
that there's like different factions of like people like whether
(01:02:20):
it's religion or sexuality, color, and it feels like there's
no unity in the world. I feel like there should
be more of that, more people like supporting other people,
more people like just like banning together to make this
world a better place, because too much of the opposite
(01:02:40):
of that is happening and has been happening for eons.
So yeah, I would love to ban that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
It's banned. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
When you see Terry Joe outside till that bitch, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I want to think both of you for coming being
here on the podcast with me. I'm very proud of you.
I want you to persevere, push forward, and I want
you to win, win, win, and the day that you
go pick up your Emmy Oscar Grammy, Tony, whatever award,
(01:03:20):
I want you to stand in front of the crowd
and say, my aunt t tears. Madisone told me, bitch,
don't you ever, ever ever be ashamed of being great?
And I'm great right now, bitch, and eat this Emmy,
eat this Grammy, eat this Tony because I'm black and
(01:03:40):
I was never supposed to have it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Well, thank you. I will keep that in my brain
for when I awards.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Thank you so much, Thank you. Thanks. Did you have
a good time?
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
All right, let's go get a yes and those ten
pounds across.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Outlaws is a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart
Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment. Co created by Tyler Rabinowitz
and Olivia Piece. I'm your host Tias Madison. We are
executive produced by Tyler Rabnowitz, Maya Howard, and Tis Madison.
Our simpervising producer is Jessica Krinchich, and our producers are
(01:04:24):
Joey pat and Common Bra. Our video editor is Tyler
Rabinowitz and our sound editor is jes Crimechic. Our associate
producer is Trent high Tower. Special thanks to our producer's assistant,
Daniel Rabinowitz. Our theme song is composed by Wazi. Merritt
Our show art is by Pablo Montinina. Got You Next Week, Honey,
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