April 12, 2021 • 29 mins
Remember when Joe Biden was supposed to be the man to bring the American people together, the moderate savior who would unify this country? Yeah, Gianno didn't believe any of it either. For this podcast, Gianno discusses just how divisive and destructive Joe Biden's presidency has been with Brian Kilmeade, the Fox & Friends co-host and best-selling author.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next, out Loud with Gianno called part of the gang,
which switch. Remember when Joe Biden was supposed to be
the man to bring the American people together, the moderate
savior who would unify this country. Yeah, I don't believe
any of that either, and needed that I believe it
to begin with. This is out Allowed with Giano called Brow.
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Welcome back to aullowed with Giano called Brow. I'm really
excited for this week's show. My guess is Brian Killed Mead.
One of the most well known political commentators in America today.
Brian hosts the nationally syndicated radio show The Brian Killed
Me Show weekdays from nine am to noon on Fox
News Radio. You can also see him each weekday as
the co host of Fox and Friends. Beyond radio and television,
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Brian is the New York Times bestselling author who has
written several books on American history, including his most recent book,
Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers, The Texas victory that
changed American History. Today, Brian and I are going to
talk about the biggest issues of the day, immigration, race, politics, culture,
and much more. Let's go today on Allowed with Gianno
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called While I have a very, very special guest, someone
who's a bit of a mentor to me, someone who
endorsed my book Taking for Granted, and he was one
of the first ones to say absolutely, I'll do it.
Brian Kiell me thank you for joining me today. Is
such a pleasure to have you on. Go get him Gianno,
congratulations really your success. Thank you so so much. So.
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I want to start by talking about Prince Philip. As
everyone knows, it was breaking news last Friday that Prince
Philip had passed, and I know that there was a
bit of a flare from the mainstream media suggesting that
you um said that he might have died because of
the Megan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey and Prince Harry.
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They say that you're saying that they contributed to it.
Can you run us through what your comments were? Uh,
you mean on the show, Yes, on the Fox and
Friends terrble. I mean, if if that's my grandfather in
the freaking hospital, I wait on the interview or don't
publish it. And evidently he was outraged by it, so
it's part of the story. So that's why I speak
spoken about it. Yeah, and the media is running crazy
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with it. I want to talk about your trip to
Texas of not long ago. I guess it was last week.
You went to Texas and you did a tour with
Commissioner George P. Bush. What did you learn from your
trip to Texas? For people not in Texas, it's not
a big position. For people who live in Texas, it's
a huge position because literally it's the land. Is the
development of the land, especially for oil, gas, wind, solar
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when you talk about developments, industrialization, ports, So it's a
launching pad for a career. And he obviously is extremely ambitious,
but humble guide typical Bush. And what he's saying is,
I'm fighting when they win. Joe Biden opened up those
books and signed those an executive order putting a pause
on oil and gas, and his job is to say,
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that's unconstitutional. We out of state here, we gotta be
able to do this, and please give me a reason
why you're pausing this. And the other thing to keep
in mind, too, is that when you pause oil and
gas and federal land, you're destroying Wyoming in New Mexico,
because Wyoming is something like their land is federally owned
and thirty five to is New Mexico, and that's the
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democratic run state. Right now, why would you first destroy
them with border issues? And number one and number two
come back and say, well, you still make a living
And what are you talking about? Because this is agenda driven. Now,
what's in the best interests of the people in the country,
Because if you want, you could tell everyone to stop
with oil and gas. Let's do that. Let's feel great
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about ourselves. Just so you know, we're gonna be buying
it from the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, which obviously they
have a problem with, and then Russia, who I don't
know if you've heard, they're not the best neighbors. So
now we're going to be buying from them, fattening up
their accounts instead of making Americans successful. So I wanted
to go out and cover that story and find out
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the human cost, and the human cost is tremendous, so
immediately it's affecting the economy. During your trip in in Texas,
I know you also discussed immigration while you were there.
Fox News recently reported on the ranchers in places like
Texas and Arizona finding bodies of dead immigrants on their properties.
We know many people in Central America have been encouraged
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to try to enter America illegally because Joe Biden is
in office. What do you make of the Biden administrations
immigration policies and what lessons, if any, should we learn
from the Trump administration on immigration. I'll tell you what.
Whatever you think about the Trump administration, they admitted there
was a problem, they made mistakes, they fired people, they
hired people. They've moved it through. They going through two
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secretary defenses, they went into other areas. Uh, they were trying,
and then when you showed up, the border patrol was
allowed to take you through. I mean I was literally
doing interviews with the border patrol while people will walking
up on them, families turning themselves in. So I don't
feel like I was being lied too. I was seeing
a situation that we needed to be handled and they
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couldn't find a way. But eventually they got it right
to remain in Mexico with Mexico's cooperation was genius. The
way the President said I'm gonna put tariffs on you
unless you start reigning in your your southern border, and
they said, well, in turn, I will give you financing
to let these people apply for citizenship in your country,
and then we'll decide if they stay come into our country.
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And they said all right, and then they put twenty
thousand troops on their southern border. They said that was impossible.
Then they passed this other role that says, if you're
going to apply for citizenship in America, the first country
you crossed into is where you apply. So they were
crossing into the next country and applying, okay, and then
they went ahead and started building the wall. That doesn't work,
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then everyone needs so they were doing it, and then
things dropped dramatically to the point where I'm saying to myself,
why is Trump not running on this, Like why is
he not bringing up that we quieted down the border.
But what happened is it became a non issue. Almost
reminds me of when McCain got the domination. It's because
he supported the surge in Iraq and we eradicated ISIS
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or are on route to eradicating ISIS there. But by
the time he got the nomination was running for president.
The big issue was the crashing of the economy. I
almost felt like Trump, you fix the trade, you fix
the border, too quick. It's not even on people's minds anymore.
So there is so much that Biden's doing that is wrong.
Saying I'm being in humanitarian by letting kids stay here
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is inviting tens of thousands to come here and risk
their lives to get here and to drown in the
Rio Grand River in route, or to be taken advantage
of by coyotes, or having families say the best thing
I can do for my kid is to sell my
house and send my kid to America because he gets
to stay. So everything they're doing is so shortsighted, and
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the fact that they're ignoring it, the Vice presidents refusing
to do anythings that make one phone call getting a
total pass on it. Yeah, and they're there's projecting that
there's gonna be over two hundred thousand unincompanied unincompanied children
coming to the southern border, and we're not hearing a
whole lot of conversation about that. So it provides a
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problematic status for the country continuously because you're bringing people in,
you're inviting a man, as Joe Biden did, and certainly
he's endangering these families. Johnna. They're not letting us talk
to the border patrol people, they're not letting us into
the facilities. Why is this media so compliant. Why are
they okay getting the heisman? Well, where where's the anger?
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I mean, Okay, you don't like Trump and you're Democrats.
I get it. If that's the case, it clearly is
the case. But don't you have pride in what you do?
I mean, as I said, Trump was willing to have
a bad story told because he didn't think he was
to blame and he was trying to fix it. Whatever
I had access, I literally they said to me I
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could fly down with the Secretary of Defense and do
whatever story I want. I flew down there on the
pen on the Secretary Defenses plane, and they talked about
how they were gonna use both the Defense Department funds
and HHS funds in order to stop immigration. But they
didn't tell me making a positive story. I said, let
me just tell the story. They okay, yeah, if you want,
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you can hop on their plane. And I was able
to do interviews on the plane on the way down there.
Now I don't I don't think, not only couldn't you
do that? Now you're not even allowed to talk to
a border patrol person. If they're caught communicating with you,
they get fired. Wow, So things have changed. Extraordinarily in
terms of getting the story out. We haven't seen people
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like AOC make some of these bizarre and extreme comments
that you made with regards to the Trump administration, even
though the Biden administration uh has really encouraged the displacements
of these children. So there's no safety, they're just coming
over and you've got a lot of smugglers still in
the space that are profiting off these families. Is really disgusting.
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You're paying taxes on daily basis, you're gotta buy something,
you're paying taxes. You're writing a check at the end
of the year, you're paying taxes. Uh, you know you work,
you know how hard you work to get this job.
If you sell a sponsorship on this job, you get
a percentage of it. But if you ever get paid
paid as a freelancer, which when when you do a
book or a speech you get paid as a freelance,
you don't take any taxes out. That's when you understand
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how much of your paycheck goes to taxes. And now
in New York, of all your money is going to taxes.
If you're in the higher tax bracket, why why am
I working for half the year? All right? But I understand,
you got to tax, you gotta ge roads, you gotta
get subways. I get it, but is totally out of control.
Highest in the country. If you're writing tax checks on
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these taxes at the around now every year, how do
you feel about New York putting two point two billion
dollars worth of some of which is your tax money
aside for people here illegally. So now they're getting up
to sixteen thousand to come here. It's a magnet. Number two,
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I've never seen something. To qualify. You have to prove
that you don't exist. I promise you, I don't have
any idea and I snuck in here. Please give me
sixteen thousand dollars. What country can afford to do that?
Can I answer that? None? What country would do that? None?
That wanted to be successful and sustainable? And now we're
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thirty thirty trillion dollars in debt. People say, well, you're
you're a rich country. You should be able to know.
We're not. We're we're overspending our budget. And if I'm
going to overspend, it's not gonna be because I'm going
to the clubs and partying and taking littles home. It's
gonna be because I'm doing something that's gonna benefit your life.
And sometimes you're overdrawn, go too much in your credit card.
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But to go over for this reason, it's to me
unacceptable for for America. I agree with you completely. Before
we move on, let's take a quick break back in
a second, and I want to switch gears a little
bit because there's something really big going on in the news,
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Baseball's decision to move this All Star game from Atlanta
due to the backlash against the law. As a former
sports commentator, you know, I I got some thoughts about
what you may think because I've I've read some of
your stuff. But how ridiculous could this actually be? When
six of African American support voter I d American support
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voter I D the companies to say that this is racist.
I think it's ridiculous. I think you just took a
hundred million dollar investment from the black community and and
put it over to where else where. There's not a
lot of black folks in Colorado. It's not a lot
of black folks in Denver, Colorado. So wokeness is a
new shot in the face because you're taking economic power
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away from a community that needs it. To see Jim
Crow and how ugly it is part of America's past.
No one ducks it terrible. Don't ever justify it. Please,
I don't know anybody that does. If they do, they're
probably whispering it somewhere in some back alley. I never
hear it, but to say that this is Jim Crow
on steroids. And now you're saying it's worse. So you're
saying segregated life, several segregated neighborhoods from eighteen seventy on
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down where if you want to vote, you better pay
some money. When you want to vote, you better take
a literacy test. When you want to vote, you can
have your life threatened or you could actually lose your
life to vote. So people, uh minority communities weren't even
doing it. To compare this law and these these measures
to that is so beyond logical, practical and accurate. I
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can't put into words. So Georgia does this openly. They're
happy about it. They pushed back on Trump and they
made some changes and they said, well, you're trying to
rule out before it's even done. Stacy Abrahams comes out
and says, I want to say that this is Jim
Crow to point out, wow, is that insulting number two?
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Number two is what don't you like about it? Just
tell me who you don't like about. Just go to
bat on these measures. You're very popular, you have a
lot of power. Tells who you don't like. So as
you look at these measures and read this bill and
then you hear what they explain on almost each one
of them, it makes total sense to me what I'm
saying is and I believe if you put from what
I know of the Georgia officials, I only know him
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from television and radio. But if you gave them a
lie detective test and said do you want everyone to
vote accurately and fairly? The answers yes. What they're guarding
against is fraud. They're not guarding against people voting what
they're doing in Texas. They're not saying minorities stay home.
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There is a sense that they've lost control of the
process on the unsolicited no excuse balloting. They these ballots
are and apartment buildings where people haven't lived in four years.
There in licenses when people leave, when they leave college
there Obviously there are just changes. If they didn't request
a ballot, the ballot will just sit in that dorm room,
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in that building, in a house. It doesn't belong and
people might pick it up, fill it out, send it in.
What do I have to lose? I hate Trump, I
love Trump, I loved Rondo Santis, I love Stacy Abrams.
I'm gonna vote for Brian Kemp. That doesn't make anybody
feel good about the election process. So expanded hours. There's
seven and seven. They've always been seven and seven when
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it comes to mailing in a ballot. No excuse, balloting
is new, okay, so you don't have to tell say
you could be in town, it doesn't matter. But they
just want to have an idea on this. As you
just mentioned, seventy pers out of the country is for it,
of non whites, of African Americans. Wow, okay, so they
want to but know what they're saying, don't worry about
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the signature verification. So that was controversial last time. They said,
let you throw it out. Now that Brian kempt do
a good job explaining that. No, they're able to say
no water on the line. But for the President to
come out and say that's sick is to me something
that Trump would be raked over the cold for saying
so that's irresponsible. It is irresponsible. Do you get the
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feeling that black folks are continuously being exploited not just
bout the Democratic Party but the mainstream media as well.
It just seems like everything is a narrative and beyond
just what the political aspects of our of it is,
black folks end up being this disenfringised, a marginalized some way.
And that's by virtue of these MLB taking the game
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out of Atlanta. You lost a hundred million dollars in
your community businesses that needed it, especially after a year
with cold. They also bring up that they're gonna honor
Hank Aaron in Atlanta the year they he died, Uh,
you know, celebrating he is the true home run king.
In my mind that they're not gonna do that in Colorado.
If they do, no one's gonna care or not enough,
not as much as Atlanta. I want to say a
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couple of things. I don't want to. I think the
stereotyping I thought was a problem. Why am I stereotyping
on immigration that it hurts blacks or minorities? Isn't a
stereotype to think that all African Americans or might not
that modern our communities are working class or at the
bottom run I don't think that way. But people just say,
if you let the illegal immigrants in, it's gonna hurt minorities. No,
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I don't know. I mean, does it hurt the CEO
of the founder of b ET, No, it doesn't. I
don't like that. To me is the generalization that should
not be acceptable. And number two is why is it
acceptable to believe? Why is the conventional thought to believe
that minorities don't have I d S. I think that's
an insult. What do you think black folks can do
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the to kind of stop this? And I'm kind of
reminded of someone who book or T. Washington, And I've
been reading his Up from Slavery, his book Up from Slavery,
and seeing how he was just one of the greatest
intellectuals of that time. African Americans respected him, White folks
respected him, and his idea was, if we can just
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secure the right education and economic freedom, we can be
quote co equals in this country. And black folks. If
I look at Black women specifically, they're one of the
most educated groups period. You see a lot of black CEOs.
Now you see a lot of folks in senior positions.
But yet and still the same issues of the early
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nineteen and seventies, nineteen eighties, nineteen, early two thousand's people
are still there's still a sense of a fight and
black folks not being equal with white or there's injustices.
And I know that there are injustices. We see that,
But some of this stuff is being used as a
political weapon. Is not all totally true, just like the
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Georgia Law. What do you think folks can do the
sound the alarm and say stop mar generalized in us,
Stop saying that we're basically so stupid that we can't
get an I D we can't afford it. What kind
of stuff isn't so much? I remember doing talking about
slavery and the the original sin and George W. Bush
talking about that and the horror of it. Nobody ever,
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no pun intended, but whitewashed it. Ever, uh No one
ever talked about saying that reconstruction went smooth. Ever, when
I read Booker T. Washington's Up from Slavery, one of
the best books I've ever read, the story, I love
the fact that it's not his biography it's his autobiography.
It was his words exactly. So what he found out is, yeah, people,
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you know, people who brought up and they just assumed
that certain color skin made you were smarter or better.
And then the people started realizing that's washing away because
there was a sense that if you do not you know, uh,
that whites were smarter than blacks. It was only that
our of education. Booker T. Washington was somehow that was
instilled in him. He was determined to get that education Aian,
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and when he did, he studied both cultures. And when
he built the Tuskegee School, he watched the orderly way
in which white farmers would plant their crops opposed to
black farmers. He watched as whites were helpless after slavery
because they had absolutely no skills. He actually felt bad
for white because they couldn't do a thing themselves. They
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couldn't build a house, they couldn't take care of a farm,
they couldn't fix anything. Um and the African Americans had
all the skills, all the trades. So what he said
is we're gonna do both. I'm gonna teach you to
build stuff, and I'm also gonna teach you to know stuff.
So they're building buildings and built the Tuskegee School. But
he found out is if you could be a benefit
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to people, that's the equal that's the equalizer. And they
would make the wagons that would be transportation back then
and just drop it off in the middle of the
town and say, hey, is this from the Tuskegee School,
And they would become great neighbors. And then little by little,
this preconditioned preconception of slave me and blacks being better
than whites and whites being better than blacks just would
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fall by the wayside. There'd be people and that that
we were on our way, and those people who are
ignorant would be stepped aside. I'm not gonna focus on them.
I'm gonna keep moving forward. And when I address a
white audience, I'm gonna have the same speech as a
black audience. I'm not gonna change my message at all.
And if my goal was to have a president speak
at an all black school, he made it happen. Got
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William McKinley to show down and give the commencement address.
Everything that was seemed impossible, he made happen. In the
time in which I still think it's impossible, and he
did in eighteen seventy, eighteen eighty, right, he did it.
I mean, we were making so much progress, and I
feel now there's a there's an invisible force forcing us apart.
I'm just like a loss for words because it seems
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as though the energy has definitely dialed up. We saw
what happened with George Floyd last summer, and everyone knows
that it was a tragedy. Uh. You saw a senator
attempt Scott come out with the police reform bill, with
which the Democrats pushed back against because they hit their
own agenda and they wanted to use it as a
wage which issue for the election. But it doesn't appear
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that things are becoming better. Even though the wealth gap
is closing when it comes to African Americans between the
whites and black college education is up. It just doesn't
seem like there's that is making much of a difference
in our country. So you mentioned people are apologizing for
white privilege. No, they're apologize it for being white. It's
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it's there's a difference, you know there, there's there's a
distinction there, and it's it's become really awful for people.
And I wonder me as an individual who doesn't have kids.
I'm not married or anything like that, yet, like, what
kind of country will my kids grow up in if
this is what we have right now, and it just
seems just overly divided to me? Yeah, I mean it's
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just overkill. I mean, if there are sections in America
that think it's eighteen, what's straightened them out? But I
really believe most of America respects you as much as
you might respect me, and might be disrespectful to you
as much as disrespectful to me, but not because of
the color of your skin, and not because of the
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color of my skin. Some people like, yeah, the one
thing I know for sure is that guy Brian killed
me and I hate him on Fox. I never he
was cognizant of color. And I think a lot of
it has to do with number one growing up lower
middle class, not further closer to lower than middle. Number
two is playing soccer. It was such a you don't
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understand this, probably, but when you play soccer in the
nineteen seventies, nobody was playing and almost everybody was so
called foreigners or minorities. And even when I went to college,
I was one of four Americans on my college soccer team.
And would you you never see Cohen? You say, well,
I got three Israelis over here. They're gonna be good,
hard working midfielders. I got a Greek guy in the back.
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He's gonna be a great sweeper. This guy is from Somalia.
You know he's gonna be great foot skills. I don't
know about his in durance. And then you got somebody
from Jamaica or Tobago. Straighter that to Bago, I'm gonna
tackle in a way it's gonna cut you in half.
I didn't do that to label people. I just said
that's what's gonna make a great team. I never saw color.
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I saw the culture and I loved it. You know,
we had three guys from Tobago. All these guys people
I just mentioned that made up our team over the
next four years. Had two guys from Greece, one guy
from Colombia. The whole back line was Jamaican and the
other guy was from Huntington Long Island. The goalie was
from Huntington Long Island. When you play sports, it really
gives you an education on where a team, what's it
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gonna take. And that's the way I've always looked at it,
and now they're forcing everybody to see black and white.
Even that United Airline story. We're going to now fifty
of all new pilots are gonna be minorities. And I'm
thinking to myself, Well, if I'm a minority, I wanted
to be a pilot. I don't want it to be
because you made a policy. I want to be the
best guy. Right. No, our hundred percent agree with you
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on and that we need to policy. Here for a
quick break, but we'll be back in a second. You know,
being black, growing up like I did on the South
Side of Chicago, I think a lot of times we
were taught to view life through the prism of race,
because oftentimes they would tell you, listen, you're gonna be
discriminated against. You're not gonna get the best opportunities. You're
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not gonna white people are gonna look down on you.
These are things that that are taught. These aren't things
that you you just grow up believing, you were born
into believing that you weren't going to be the best.
These are things that you're taught. And we live in
a society and a culture which continues to perpetrate that
narrative and say, because of your color, especially if you're black,
you're you're gonna be insignificant to do these major things
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that so many other people have done. And it's something
that I would have thought would have changed by now,
but you continue to see it in ways that can
be micro. So United Airlines, Yeah, it's fine to have diversity.
The most important thing is safety in the airplane. Can
you do the job first and foremost? And this is
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what it doesn't. So let's say that Giano Caldwell wants
to be a pilot and you apologize and the United
had an opportunity to go in there, And do you
want people in that class saying well, Gianna only got
here because it was a quota. No, you want to
know what you're great to a great You know you've
got great perception. It has always been your dream. Can
I please have my dream back? Please? Can you please?
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You know, I'm just astounded about some of the logic here.
Is Democrats now control the federal government. The left control
so many of our most important institution is the media, academia, Hollywood,
increasingly athletes, and now even corporate America. How do you
see our culture changing in the coming years as a
result of all the leftist control and what role does
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Joe Biden terrible? It couldn't be more disappointed. I think,
I don't want people are listening to this, but for
him to now put together a thirty six person committee
to study fattening the courts, for him to be writing
checks one nine trillion dollars, essentially bribing people to vote
for him and then putting two point two trillion in
there and pretending its infrastructure. We basically we elected AOC.
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Everything that's going on is way to the left, and
I don't think the country is there yet. My worry
is they're being bribed. They're being bribed with tax dollars,
tax tax dollars, and he's gonna get credit for as
we come out of the pandemic and vaccines or shott
into people's arms, and then we'll be able just to
go back to work, not asking to reboot where in
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two thousand and eight we had to go back and
go find with the bad new banking system will be
and find new careers in some situations. But now we
have to just go back to work, go back to
that restaurant, go back to the department store, Uh, go
back to go back to your apartment building. Uh, and
now go back to your workplace. And that's gonna put
the economy on turbo speed. My big worry is they're
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going to say that these policies gave us that and
and this kind of economy was blown was coming back.
I don't care who was president because of the pandemic. Yeah,
I think that he's gonna gut defense. That's what I
think the legacy is. And it gout defense at a
time where China doing the exact opposite. It's death. It's
death to our superpower status. Speaking of China, to pick
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pick up on that point, recently, they threatened the United
States if they boycott at the Olympics. They said that
it would be a robust Chinese response if the US
was to do that. I think Joe Biden kind of
cow til to that because at first there was at
least reports that there were conversations with our allies about
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boycotting because of the human rights abuses in China. Joe
Biden is clearly showing weakness to China. Why do you
think that is? Yeah, I mean Anthony B. Lincoln was
the recipient, but did give some back in Alaska. I'm
mildly encouraged by him. He talked about the go to
the Asian Accord, uh, the Braham Accords. Um. He did
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talk about how NATO is paying more than they thought.
That's really a tribute to Trump. He's leaving the tariffs
in place, which I like. It shows that tariffs did
work and all that criticism was all politics. But they
are really belligerent to come into arts on our soil
and talk to us as if slavery was taking place
in our country. They because you have a huge problem
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with Black America. They're being slaughtered on a daily basis,
and equate that to what they're doing with the Muslim
weakers as if it's eighteen seventy or eighteen thirty. Is unbelievable,
but it shows you are all politics are hurting us internationally,
but they want to beat us. Our advantages, we have innovation,
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our advantages. We need to be challenged and uh, if
you give us a common enemy, we can rally. Hence
the Soviets in every way, shape or form. So we
have to get interact together. I wonder think Bland killed
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Up next, out Loud with Gianno called part of the gang,
which switch. Remember when Joe Biden was supposed to be
the man to bring the American people together, the moderate
savior who would unify this country. Yeah, I don't believe
any of that either, and needed that I believe it
to begin with. This is out Allowed with Giano called Brow.
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Welcome back to aullowed with Giano called Brow. I'm really
excited for this week's show. My guess is Brian Killed Mead.
One of the most well known political commentators in America today.
Brian hosts the nationally syndicated radio show The Brian Killed
Me Show weekdays from nine am to noon on Fox
News Radio. You can also see him each weekday as
the co host of Fox and Friends. Beyond radio and television,
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Brian is the New York Times bestselling author who has
written several books on American history, including his most recent book,
Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers, The Texas victory that
changed American History. Today, Brian and I are going to
talk about the biggest issues of the day, immigration, race, politics, culture,
and much more. Let's go today on Allowed with Gianno
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called While I have a very, very special guest, someone
who's a bit of a mentor to me, someone who
endorsed my book Taking for Granted, and he was one
of the first ones to say absolutely, I'll do it.
Brian Kiell me thank you for joining me today. Is
such a pleasure to have you on. Go get him Gianno,
congratulations really your success. Thank you so so much. So.
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I want to start by talking about Prince Philip. As
everyone knows, it was breaking news last Friday that Prince
Philip had passed, and I know that there was a
bit of a flare from the mainstream media suggesting that
you um said that he might have died because of
the Megan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey and Prince Harry.
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They say that you're saying that they contributed to it.
Can you run us through what your comments were? Uh,
you mean on the show, Yes, on the Fox and
Friends terrble. I mean, if if that's my grandfather in
the freaking hospital, I wait on the interview or don't
publish it. And evidently he was outraged by it, so
it's part of the story. So that's why I speak
spoken about it. Yeah, and the media is running crazy
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with it. I want to talk about your trip to
Texas of not long ago. I guess it was last week.
You went to Texas and you did a tour with
Commissioner George P. Bush. What did you learn from your
trip to Texas? For people not in Texas, it's not
a big position. For people who live in Texas, it's
a huge position because literally it's the land. Is the
development of the land, especially for oil, gas, wind, solar
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when you talk about developments, industrialization, ports, So it's a
launching pad for a career. And he obviously is extremely ambitious,
but humble guide typical Bush. And what he's saying is,
I'm fighting when they win. Joe Biden opened up those
books and signed those an executive order putting a pause
on oil and gas, and his job is to say,
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that's unconstitutional. We out of state here, we gotta be
able to do this, and please give me a reason
why you're pausing this. And the other thing to keep
in mind, too, is that when you pause oil and
gas and federal land, you're destroying Wyoming in New Mexico,
because Wyoming is something like their land is federally owned
and thirty five to is New Mexico, and that's the
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democratic run state. Right now, why would you first destroy
them with border issues? And number one and number two
come back and say, well, you still make a living
And what are you talking about? Because this is agenda driven. Now,
what's in the best interests of the people in the country,
Because if you want, you could tell everyone to stop
with oil and gas. Let's do that. Let's feel great
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about ourselves. Just so you know, we're gonna be buying
it from the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, which obviously they
have a problem with, and then Russia, who I don't
know if you've heard, they're not the best neighbors. So
now we're going to be buying from them, fattening up
their accounts instead of making Americans successful. So I wanted
to go out and cover that story and find out
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the human cost, and the human cost is tremendous, so
immediately it's affecting the economy. During your trip in in Texas,
I know you also discussed immigration while you were there.
Fox News recently reported on the ranchers in places like
Texas and Arizona finding bodies of dead immigrants on their properties.
We know many people in Central America have been encouraged
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to try to enter America illegally because Joe Biden is
in office. What do you make of the Biden administrations
immigration policies and what lessons, if any, should we learn
from the Trump administration on immigration. I'll tell you what.
Whatever you think about the Trump administration, they admitted there
was a problem, they made mistakes, they fired people, they
hired people. They've moved it through. They going through two
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secretary defenses, they went into other areas. Uh, they were trying,
and then when you showed up, the border patrol was
allowed to take you through. I mean I was literally
doing interviews with the border patrol while people will walking
up on them, families turning themselves in. So I don't
feel like I was being lied too. I was seeing
a situation that we needed to be handled and they
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couldn't find a way. But eventually they got it right
to remain in Mexico with Mexico's cooperation was genius. The
way the President said I'm gonna put tariffs on you
unless you start reigning in your your southern border, and
they said, well, in turn, I will give you financing
to let these people apply for citizenship in your country,
and then we'll decide if they stay come into our country.
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And they said all right, and then they put twenty
thousand troops on their southern border. They said that was impossible.
Then they passed this other role that says, if you're
going to apply for citizenship in America, the first country
you crossed into is where you apply. So they were
crossing into the next country and applying, okay, and then
they went ahead and started building the wall. That doesn't work,
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then everyone needs so they were doing it, and then
things dropped dramatically to the point where I'm saying to myself,
why is Trump not running on this, Like why is
he not bringing up that we quieted down the border.
But what happened is it became a non issue. Almost
reminds me of when McCain got the domination. It's because
he supported the surge in Iraq and we eradicated ISIS
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or are on route to eradicating ISIS there. But by
the time he got the nomination was running for president.
The big issue was the crashing of the economy. I
almost felt like Trump, you fix the trade, you fix
the border, too quick. It's not even on people's minds anymore.
So there is so much that Biden's doing that is wrong.
Saying I'm being in humanitarian by letting kids stay here
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is inviting tens of thousands to come here and risk
their lives to get here and to drown in the
Rio Grand River in route, or to be taken advantage
of by coyotes, or having families say the best thing
I can do for my kid is to sell my
house and send my kid to America because he gets
to stay. So everything they're doing is so shortsighted, and
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the fact that they're ignoring it, the Vice presidents refusing
to do anythings that make one phone call getting a
total pass on it. Yeah, and they're there's projecting that
there's gonna be over two hundred thousand unincompanied unincompanied children
coming to the southern border, and we're not hearing a
whole lot of conversation about that. So it provides a
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problematic status for the country continuously because you're bringing people in,
you're inviting a man, as Joe Biden did, and certainly
he's endangering these families. Johnna. They're not letting us talk
to the border patrol people, they're not letting us into
the facilities. Why is this media so compliant. Why are
they okay getting the heisman? Well, where where's the anger?
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I mean, Okay, you don't like Trump and you're Democrats.
I get it. If that's the case, it clearly is
the case. But don't you have pride in what you do?
I mean, as I said, Trump was willing to have
a bad story told because he didn't think he was
to blame and he was trying to fix it. Whatever
I had access, I literally they said to me I
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could fly down with the Secretary of Defense and do
whatever story I want. I flew down there on the
pen on the Secretary Defenses plane, and they talked about
how they were gonna use both the Defense Department funds
and HHS funds in order to stop immigration. But they
didn't tell me making a positive story. I said, let
me just tell the story. They okay, yeah, if you want,
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you can hop on their plane. And I was able
to do interviews on the plane on the way down there.
Now I don't I don't think, not only couldn't you
do that? Now you're not even allowed to talk to
a border patrol person. If they're caught communicating with you,
they get fired. Wow, So things have changed. Extraordinarily in
terms of getting the story out. We haven't seen people
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like AOC make some of these bizarre and extreme comments
that you made with regards to the Trump administration, even
though the Biden administration uh has really encouraged the displacements
of these children. So there's no safety, they're just coming
over and you've got a lot of smugglers still in
the space that are profiting off these families. Is really disgusting.
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You're paying taxes on daily basis, you're gotta buy something,
you're paying taxes. You're writing a check at the end
of the year, you're paying taxes. Uh, you know you work,
you know how hard you work to get this job.
If you sell a sponsorship on this job, you get
a percentage of it. But if you ever get paid
paid as a freelancer, which when when you do a
book or a speech you get paid as a freelance,
you don't take any taxes out. That's when you understand
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how much of your paycheck goes to taxes. And now
in New York, of all your money is going to taxes.
If you're in the higher tax bracket, why why am
I working for half the year? All right? But I understand,
you got to tax, you gotta ge roads, you gotta
get subways. I get it, but is totally out of control.
Highest in the country. If you're writing tax checks on
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these taxes at the around now every year, how do
you feel about New York putting two point two billion
dollars worth of some of which is your tax money
aside for people here illegally. So now they're getting up
to sixteen thousand to come here. It's a magnet. Number two,
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I've never seen something. To qualify. You have to prove
that you don't exist. I promise you, I don't have
any idea and I snuck in here. Please give me
sixteen thousand dollars. What country can afford to do that?
Can I answer that? None? What country would do that? None?
That wanted to be successful and sustainable? And now we're
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thirty thirty trillion dollars in debt. People say, well, you're
you're a rich country. You should be able to know.
We're not. We're we're overspending our budget. And if I'm
going to overspend, it's not gonna be because I'm going
to the clubs and partying and taking littles home. It's
gonna be because I'm doing something that's gonna benefit your life.
And sometimes you're overdrawn, go too much in your credit card.
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But to go over for this reason, it's to me
unacceptable for for America. I agree with you completely. Before
we move on, let's take a quick break back in
a second, and I want to switch gears a little
bit because there's something really big going on in the news,
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Baseball's decision to move this All Star game from Atlanta
due to the backlash against the law. As a former
sports commentator, you know, I I got some thoughts about
what you may think because I've I've read some of
your stuff. But how ridiculous could this actually be? When
six of African American support voter I d American support
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voter I D the companies to say that this is racist.
I think it's ridiculous. I think you just took a
hundred million dollar investment from the black community and and
put it over to where else where. There's not a
lot of black folks in Colorado. It's not a lot
of black folks in Denver, Colorado. So wokeness is a
new shot in the face because you're taking economic power
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away from a community that needs it. To see Jim
Crow and how ugly it is part of America's past.
No one ducks it terrible. Don't ever justify it. Please,
I don't know anybody that does. If they do, they're
probably whispering it somewhere in some back alley. I never
hear it, but to say that this is Jim Crow
on steroids. And now you're saying it's worse. So you're
saying segregated life, several segregated neighborhoods from eighteen seventy on
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down where if you want to vote, you better pay
some money. When you want to vote, you better take
a literacy test. When you want to vote, you can
have your life threatened or you could actually lose your
life to vote. So people, uh minority communities weren't even
doing it. To compare this law and these these measures
to that is so beyond logical, practical and accurate. I
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can't put into words. So Georgia does this openly. They're
happy about it. They pushed back on Trump and they
made some changes and they said, well, you're trying to
rule out before it's even done. Stacy Abrahams comes out
and says, I want to say that this is Jim
Crow to point out, wow, is that insulting number two?
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Number two is what don't you like about it? Just
tell me who you don't like about. Just go to
bat on these measures. You're very popular, you have a
lot of power. Tells who you don't like. So as
you look at these measures and read this bill and
then you hear what they explain on almost each one
of them, it makes total sense to me what I'm
saying is and I believe if you put from what
I know of the Georgia officials, I only know him
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from television and radio. But if you gave them a
lie detective test and said do you want everyone to
vote accurately and fairly? The answers yes. What they're guarding
against is fraud. They're not guarding against people voting what
they're doing in Texas. They're not saying minorities stay home.
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There is a sense that they've lost control of the
process on the unsolicited no excuse balloting. They these ballots
are and apartment buildings where people haven't lived in four years.
There in licenses when people leave, when they leave college
there Obviously there are just changes. If they didn't request
a ballot, the ballot will just sit in that dorm room,
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in that building, in a house. It doesn't belong and
people might pick it up, fill it out, send it in.
What do I have to lose? I hate Trump, I
love Trump, I loved Rondo Santis, I love Stacy Abrams.
I'm gonna vote for Brian Kemp. That doesn't make anybody
feel good about the election process. So expanded hours. There's
seven and seven. They've always been seven and seven when
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it comes to mailing in a ballot. No excuse, balloting
is new, okay, so you don't have to tell say
you could be in town, it doesn't matter. But they
just want to have an idea on this. As you
just mentioned, seventy pers out of the country is for it,
of non whites, of African Americans. Wow, okay, so they
want to but know what they're saying, don't worry about
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the signature verification. So that was controversial last time. They said,
let you throw it out. Now that Brian kempt do
a good job explaining that. No, they're able to say
no water on the line. But for the President to
come out and say that's sick is to me something
that Trump would be raked over the cold for saying
so that's irresponsible. It is irresponsible. Do you get the
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feeling that black folks are continuously being exploited not just
bout the Democratic Party but the mainstream media as well.
It just seems like everything is a narrative and beyond
just what the political aspects of our of it is,
black folks end up being this disenfringised, a marginalized some way.
And that's by virtue of these MLB taking the game
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out of Atlanta. You lost a hundred million dollars in
your community businesses that needed it, especially after a year
with cold. They also bring up that they're gonna honor
Hank Aaron in Atlanta the year they he died, Uh,
you know, celebrating he is the true home run king.
In my mind that they're not gonna do that in Colorado.
If they do, no one's gonna care or not enough,
not as much as Atlanta. I want to say a
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couple of things. I don't want to. I think the
stereotyping I thought was a problem. Why am I stereotyping
on immigration that it hurts blacks or minorities? Isn't a
stereotype to think that all African Americans or might not
that modern our communities are working class or at the
bottom run I don't think that way. But people just say,
if you let the illegal immigrants in, it's gonna hurt minorities. No,
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I don't know. I mean, does it hurt the CEO
of the founder of b ET, No, it doesn't. I
don't like that. To me is the generalization that should
not be acceptable. And number two is why is it
acceptable to believe? Why is the conventional thought to believe
that minorities don't have I d S. I think that's
an insult. What do you think black folks can do
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the to kind of stop this? And I'm kind of
reminded of someone who book or T. Washington, And I've
been reading his Up from Slavery, his book Up from Slavery,
and seeing how he was just one of the greatest
intellectuals of that time. African Americans respected him, White folks
respected him, and his idea was, if we can just
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secure the right education and economic freedom, we can be
quote co equals in this country. And black folks. If
I look at Black women specifically, they're one of the
most educated groups period. You see a lot of black CEOs.
Now you see a lot of folks in senior positions.
But yet and still the same issues of the early
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nineteen and seventies, nineteen eighties, nineteen, early two thousand's people
are still there's still a sense of a fight and
black folks not being equal with white or there's injustices.
And I know that there are injustices. We see that,
But some of this stuff is being used as a
political weapon. Is not all totally true, just like the
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Georgia Law. What do you think folks can do the
sound the alarm and say stop mar generalized in us,
Stop saying that we're basically so stupid that we can't
get an I D we can't afford it. What kind
of stuff isn't so much? I remember doing talking about
slavery and the the original sin and George W. Bush
talking about that and the horror of it. Nobody ever,
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no pun intended, but whitewashed it. Ever, uh No one
ever talked about saying that reconstruction went smooth. Ever, when
I read Booker T. Washington's Up from Slavery, one of
the best books I've ever read, the story, I love
the fact that it's not his biography it's his autobiography.
It was his words exactly. So what he found out is, yeah, people,
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you know, people who brought up and they just assumed
that certain color skin made you were smarter or better.
And then the people started realizing that's washing away because
there was a sense that if you do not you know, uh,
that whites were smarter than blacks. It was only that
our of education. Booker T. Washington was somehow that was
instilled in him. He was determined to get that education Aian,
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and when he did, he studied both cultures. And when
he built the Tuskegee School, he watched the orderly way
in which white farmers would plant their crops opposed to
black farmers. He watched as whites were helpless after slavery
because they had absolutely no skills. He actually felt bad
for white because they couldn't do a thing themselves. They
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couldn't build a house, they couldn't take care of a farm,
they couldn't fix anything. Um and the African Americans had
all the skills, all the trades. So what he said
is we're gonna do both. I'm gonna teach you to
build stuff, and I'm also gonna teach you to know stuff.
So they're building buildings and built the Tuskegee School. But
he found out is if you could be a benefit
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to people, that's the equal that's the equalizer. And they
would make the wagons that would be transportation back then
and just drop it off in the middle of the
town and say, hey, is this from the Tuskegee School,
And they would become great neighbors. And then little by little,
this preconditioned preconception of slave me and blacks being better
than whites and whites being better than blacks just would
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fall by the wayside. There'd be people and that that
we were on our way, and those people who are
ignorant would be stepped aside. I'm not gonna focus on them.
I'm gonna keep moving forward. And when I address a
white audience, I'm gonna have the same speech as a
black audience. I'm not gonna change my message at all.
And if my goal was to have a president speak
at an all black school, he made it happen. Got
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William McKinley to show down and give the commencement address.
Everything that was seemed impossible, he made happen. In the
time in which I still think it's impossible, and he
did in eighteen seventy, eighteen eighty, right, he did it.
I mean, we were making so much progress, and I
feel now there's a there's an invisible force forcing us apart.
I'm just like a loss for words because it seems
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as though the energy has definitely dialed up. We saw
what happened with George Floyd last summer, and everyone knows
that it was a tragedy. Uh. You saw a senator
attempt Scott come out with the police reform bill, with
which the Democrats pushed back against because they hit their
own agenda and they wanted to use it as a
wage which issue for the election. But it doesn't appear
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that things are becoming better. Even though the wealth gap
is closing when it comes to African Americans between the
whites and black college education is up. It just doesn't
seem like there's that is making much of a difference
in our country. So you mentioned people are apologizing for
white privilege. No, they're apologize it for being white. It's
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it's there's a difference, you know there, there's there's a
distinction there, and it's it's become really awful for people.
And I wonder me as an individual who doesn't have kids.
I'm not married or anything like that, yet, like, what
kind of country will my kids grow up in if
this is what we have right now, and it just
seems just overly divided to me? Yeah, I mean it's
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just overkill. I mean, if there are sections in America
that think it's eighteen, what's straightened them out? But I
really believe most of America respects you as much as
you might respect me, and might be disrespectful to you
as much as disrespectful to me, but not because of
the color of your skin, and not because of the
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color of my skin. Some people like, yeah, the one
thing I know for sure is that guy Brian killed
me and I hate him on Fox. I never he
was cognizant of color. And I think a lot of
it has to do with number one growing up lower
middle class, not further closer to lower than middle. Number
two is playing soccer. It was such a you don't
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understand this, probably, but when you play soccer in the
nineteen seventies, nobody was playing and almost everybody was so
called foreigners or minorities. And even when I went to college,
I was one of four Americans on my college soccer team.
And would you you never see Cohen? You say, well,
I got three Israelis over here. They're gonna be good,
hard working midfielders. I got a Greek guy in the back.
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He's gonna be a great sweeper. This guy is from Somalia.
You know he's gonna be great foot skills. I don't
know about his in durance. And then you got somebody
from Jamaica or Tobago. Straighter that to Bago, I'm gonna
tackle in a way it's gonna cut you in half.
I didn't do that to label people. I just said
that's what's gonna make a great team. I never saw color.
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I saw the culture and I loved it. You know,
we had three guys from Tobago. All these guys people
I just mentioned that made up our team over the
next four years. Had two guys from Greece, one guy
from Colombia. The whole back line was Jamaican and the
other guy was from Huntington Long Island. The goalie was
from Huntington Long Island. When you play sports, it really
gives you an education on where a team, what's it
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gonna take. And that's the way I've always looked at it,
and now they're forcing everybody to see black and white.
Even that United Airline story. We're going to now fifty
of all new pilots are gonna be minorities. And I'm
thinking to myself, Well, if I'm a minority, I wanted
to be a pilot. I don't want it to be
because you made a policy. I want to be the
best guy. Right. No, our hundred percent agree with you
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on and that we need to policy. Here for a
quick break, but we'll be back in a second. You know,
being black, growing up like I did on the South
Side of Chicago, I think a lot of times we
were taught to view life through the prism of race,
because oftentimes they would tell you, listen, you're gonna be
discriminated against. You're not gonna get the best opportunities. You're
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not gonna white people are gonna look down on you.
These are things that that are taught. These aren't things
that you you just grow up believing, you were born
into believing that you weren't going to be the best.
These are things that you're taught. And we live in
a society and a culture which continues to perpetrate that
narrative and say, because of your color, especially if you're black,
you're you're gonna be insignificant to do these major things
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that so many other people have done. And it's something
that I would have thought would have changed by now,
but you continue to see it in ways that can
be micro. So United Airlines, Yeah, it's fine to have diversity.
The most important thing is safety in the airplane. Can
you do the job first and foremost? And this is
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what it doesn't. So let's say that Giano Caldwell wants
to be a pilot and you apologize and the United
had an opportunity to go in there, And do you
want people in that class saying well, Gianna only got
here because it was a quota. No, you want to
know what you're great to a great You know you've
got great perception. It has always been your dream. Can
I please have my dream back? Please? Can you please?
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You know, I'm just astounded about some of the logic here.
Is Democrats now control the federal government. The left control
so many of our most important institution is the media, academia, Hollywood,
increasingly athletes, and now even corporate America. How do you
see our culture changing in the coming years as a
result of all the leftist control and what role does
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Joe Biden terrible? It couldn't be more disappointed. I think,
I don't want people are listening to this, but for
him to now put together a thirty six person committee
to study fattening the courts, for him to be writing
checks one nine trillion dollars, essentially bribing people to vote
for him and then putting two point two trillion in
there and pretending its infrastructure. We basically we elected AOC.
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Everything that's going on is way to the left, and
I don't think the country is there yet. My worry
is they're being bribed. They're being bribed with tax dollars,
tax tax dollars, and he's gonna get credit for as
we come out of the pandemic and vaccines or shott
into people's arms, and then we'll be able just to
go back to work, not asking to reboot where in
(26:36):
two thousand and eight we had to go back and
go find with the bad new banking system will be
and find new careers in some situations. But now we
have to just go back to work, go back to
that restaurant, go back to the department store, Uh, go
back to go back to your apartment building. Uh, and
now go back to your workplace. And that's gonna put
the economy on turbo speed. My big worry is they're
(26:56):
going to say that these policies gave us that and
and this kind of economy was blown was coming back.
I don't care who was president because of the pandemic. Yeah,
I think that he's gonna gut defense. That's what I
think the legacy is. And it gout defense at a
time where China doing the exact opposite. It's death. It's
death to our superpower status. Speaking of China, to pick
(27:20):
pick up on that point, recently, they threatened the United
States if they boycott at the Olympics. They said that
it would be a robust Chinese response if the US
was to do that. I think Joe Biden kind of
cow til to that because at first there was at
least reports that there were conversations with our allies about
(27:41):
boycotting because of the human rights abuses in China. Joe
Biden is clearly showing weakness to China. Why do you
think that is? Yeah, I mean Anthony B. Lincoln was
the recipient, but did give some back in Alaska. I'm
mildly encouraged by him. He talked about the go to
the Asian Accord, uh, the Braham Accords. Um. He did
(28:02):
talk about how NATO is paying more than they thought.
That's really a tribute to Trump. He's leaving the tariffs
in place, which I like. It shows that tariffs did
work and all that criticism was all politics. But they
are really belligerent to come into arts on our soil
and talk to us as if slavery was taking place
in our country. They because you have a huge problem
(28:24):
with Black America. They're being slaughtered on a daily basis,
and equate that to what they're doing with the Muslim
weakers as if it's eighteen seventy or eighteen thirty. Is unbelievable,
but it shows you are all politics are hurting us internationally,
but they want to beat us. Our advantages, we have innovation,
(28:45):
our advantages. We need to be challenged and uh, if
you give us a common enemy, we can rally. Hence
the Soviets in every way, shape or form. So we
have to get interact together. I wonder think Bland killed
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