June 14, 2021 • 39 mins
For this podcast, Gianno digs into the latest controversy surrounding Hunter Biden, who used the N-word repeatedly in texting conversations with his lawyer. Yes, that N-word — the ugliest, most vile word in the English language. A word that slave masters used while they were beating slaves. And what’s the response from the media and Democrats? Complete and utter silence. Gianno's guest this week to discuss this outrage is Republican Rep. Burgess Owens from the great state of Utah. Beyond Hunter Biden, the congressman and Gianno also discuss Kamala Harris, the border crisis, critical race theory, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next, how WOUDO called part of it? Has just
been confirmed that the President of the United States, Joe
Biden's son, Hunter Biden, has on numerous occasions used the
N word. I am not joking. I am not kidding.
The President of the United States of America's son, Hunter Biden,
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has used the INN word casually numerous times. A word
that has the ugliest history in our country. A word
that slave masters used while they were beating slaves to death,
a word the slave masters used when they lynched people
hung them from a tree, is one that casually comes
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out of the mouth of the President of the United
States son, Hunter Biden. What's even more interesting is the
fact that his father has used it in Congress. Meanwhile,
we're led to believe that Joe Biden is supposed to
be the uniter of this country. He's supposed to quash
all the race issues we have and bring us together,
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especially after what happened with George Floyd. I don't believe
one bit of it. I do not believe that Joe
Biden's son just recently started using it. I believe that
he's been using it, and I believe that he probably
heard it from his father to begin with. When I
look at the policies in which Joe Biden has provided
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to this country, things that have become law, His his
stands on segregation, racial jungles, as he said he didn't
want his kids growing up in a racial jungle. When
I think about his stance with the ninety four Crime
Bill creating it, imprisoning hundreds of thousands of African Americans,
impacting millions of families, millions of families impacted, I am
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not surprised that Joe Biden's son would get caught using
this ugly language. But my question is this, I don't
expect anything to change with Joe Biden. I don't expect
anything to change with Joe Biden's son. But will African
Americans black voters view Joe Biden's son and him differently?
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And we were to find out that Joe Biden uses
the word frequently and there was evidence provided, would they
view him differently or will they continue to support his administration?
That's the question that everyone should be asking right now,
because when Trump said things that were racially insensitive, and
he has said things that were racially insensitive, folks were
up in arms, and in some cases rightfully, so this
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should never ever ever be acceptable. And the fact that
we may not even see any outrage from the media
those on the left tells the whole story that when
it comes to racial reconciliation, for so many, it's a
talking point, it's a cold word, not to actually get
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anything changed in this country, but to use it as
a farce to get more black people voting for Democrats.
And this is only Gianno Caldwell's opinion. Black lives don't
matter the Democrats black votes do. And seeing things like
this coming from the Biden family as a clear and
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unacceptable example of it. Ye, welcome back to allow with
Gianno calledwell, well, folks, you just heard my monologue on
Hunter Biden, and you can tell that I'm quite fired up.
I'm piste off, to be honest with you. I'm just
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extraordinarily disappointed with what I see as medium oulpractice for
not covering a story that deserves attention in the President
of the United States sun especially who the president is called, uh,
the smartest person he knows and someone he takes advice
from on policy issues as well as I can imagine.
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But I am honored to have a discussion with a
man that really needs no introduction. You know him as
a super Bowl champion. You also know him as a congressman,
and he just actually really recently became a congressman. His
name is Congressman Burgess Owens, and I'm telling you, folks,
he's a rock star, superstar right out of Utah. And
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I am so honored to have him here, and I'm
honored to call him a friend and a and a
new mentor to me. So I want to welcome Congressman
Burgesson and thank you for joining. And I allowed with
Gianno Caldwell. Thank you my friends, so so good talk
with you and uh and I look forward to this
these these topics we're going to go in the next
few nts. Absolutely, and last time I saw you, we
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had some really good conversation. We had lunch in Washington,
d C. And thank you for accepting my invitation to
join the show. So, as you know, I opened up
the show talking about the Hunter Biden story. I'm sure
you've read about it, and I know that you've tweeted
about out of as well. The President son used the
inn word repeatedly in several texting conversation with his white lawyer.
Some of these texts were also allude and just playing bizarre.
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Before getting into the media angle of the story, what
was your personal reaction when you heard about it, especially
as a black man who was raising the South during
Jim Crow Well, I think the uh, the response all
of us, anyone who who who understands the environment we're
in today and sensitive to it. Uh it. It's obviously upsetting,
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but it's not surprising. And I'll tell you why. And
this this goes I think more to the crickets we're
hearing from the media. I think that's really what we
need to look at as we talked about things like
systemic racism. Let's let's really peel back this a little bit.
I grew up in a Deep South, and at sixty
years old, I kind of recognized there are two types
of racist. One is the one that's in your face.
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Of course, being down South, Uh that we dealt with
him all the time. The good thing about the one
in your face, you know what to how to prepare yourself.
You you know, not to trust, you know, to be
ready to fight when you have to. But the ones
that's the most dangerous one is the one that smiles
your face gives you a big hug um and and
does everything to uh and just pulls you in real close,
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tells you how much you love you, and then at
the very end make sure you know that that your
inferior and that they are superior. That's the worst kind
because the trust factor is what allows you to believe
that they have your best interests in mind. We're seeing
a media now that uh that is nothing but full
of racists. Uh well nothing I should I should say
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this to racist and black elitist. We have the nub
A c P, we have the Black Caucus. The silence
of course on this because their their their end game
is not so much to pull to point out these
people that are not not uh supporting our race or
or doing those things that help our race move forward.
It's all about a gender of power and and we're
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seeing that as we speak, so um and just I
just want to add one little thing to to kind
of point this out. We have. Last week, there was
a a big report came out about the NFL. I
don't know how many of you guys have heard this one,
but NFL was paying black players less in conversation for
brain injuries and white players. And the reason they did
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that because they called it race norm they come up
with an algorithm in which black people are less intelligent,
so therefore, uh get the same injury, we get paid
less than they do now. And I have to understand
where where we're going with this. This is the kind
of stuff that I grew up in, this kind of stuff.
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I came into the NFL back in the nineteen seventy
three with when you actually have no no leadership positions quarterbacks, centers,
metal linebackers. These all were white leadership positions. We're now
doing the same thing in nine when NFL in which
the intelligence of the black race is baked in that
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we are less so uh so the broader pictures, Why
are we not talking about Hunter while we're not talking
about the NFL, while we're not talking about all the
things that that that that we end up finding on
the far left. That becomes very obvious when when all
these black businesses were being burned down and every urban
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city and all these black people being killed, there's something
that we have to understand that there is systemic racism
that's always on the other side. It's always on the
party that looks down on our race. Uh that does
not expect good things from us, that it's okay we
have high high crime, high uh literacy, h unemployment. That
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never seems to be the issue because it's always the
white man's problem. And so when I when I'm hoping
that the audience will will will see it's not just
about Hunter, um. Uh, it's about the entire process of
messag you are getting from the from the from the
far left. And if we understand that and recognize that
they're just not our friends. Uh. And I'm gonna tell
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you my my white American friends out there, Uh, we're
all any of all of us in the same same
same place. When it comes down to the far left,
when you're dealing with elitist, uh, it is a equal
opportunity uh provider. It doesn't matter who you are, what
color you are. Uh. Elitist love power and use anybody
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anything to get there. So we just have to be
aware of that and understand that's what the problem is.
So in terms of Hunter, he's got some big problems.
So as our president, it's become very obvious that there's
a consistency here. And not only we're gonna continue to
find out more about this this fella, but we're gonna
find a system of process in which will never get
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the truth when we need to hear so we can
make the decisions we need we needed to make. You know,
what's interesting to me because you you mentioned the media angle,
and you mentioned CBC and UH double A c P,
uh CNN, New York Times, we haven't heard anything. Washington Post,
we haven't heard anything. Just a handful of outlets really
picked up this story. And what's so disgusting to me
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is the media has been all over race based stories.
They've written stories about a fifteen year old girl. I
believe it was that you use the N word, and
I think her she had an application for college or
something other that was rejected. Because it's a story that
have come out, they've talked about the N word, with
none about non political figures. If Don Jr. I mean,
obviously know what everyone knows. If it was any of
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the Trump kids to use it, we have wall to
wall coverage. Donald Trump said in a campaign rally, he said, look,
my African American over there, my African American. You're a
powerful person, my African American. And you know the to paraphrase,
that's exactly what he's at my African American over there,
wall to wall coverage, Hunter Biden, nothing and what pisses
me off even more. And I'm gonna tell you, Congressman,
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can I call you Doc, because that's what I've been
calling Doc. I'm gonna tell you what pisces me off
even more is whenever that was a race story that
came out about Trump or any Republican I had people, friends,
people that I know call me, text me, you gotta
say something about this. You gotta speak out about this,
you gotta do you know what those people are now silent,
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They don't have no speaking out. I look on their
their social media page, there's no comments. I've called some
of them and they said, well, what relevance does this
really have He's not the president. Well you've talked about
other members of the Republican Party that wasn't the president
or elected who have said things. Now, I see what
has been race is in. Racism isn't an issue to
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be solved. It's an issue to benefit from for those
many of those on the left. And I don't want
to generalize everyone, because there's some people who are really
fighting for justice. I get that, but a lot of them,
the majority from what I can see, the vocal majority,
That's what I'll say. The vocal majority are all about
benefiting from racism to point at the other side versus
solving it or calling it out wherever it lies. And
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I think it's a problem for um, for our community,
for the black community. It's a problem because now democrats
realize because you won't get upset, you won't talk about it,
you won't be vocal about it. They see, really, we
don't need to do anything to get your vote, but
to call other side raises and we got you. What
do you make of this double standard? Well, first of all,
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we should be surprised what we have to do. And
this is really what it comes down here. I have
to understand who it is that we are working with
or working against, or who's who it is that we're
just trying to undermine. The fabric of who we are.
See is the fabric of America is one in which
we literally every generation become better looking at each other
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from the inside out. First, outside in the fabric is
our your deal Christian values, which says, no matter what
faith you worship, you're welcome here. But because worship have
a faith of faith in God, then we we we
we do our best to be blessed by him by
treating to other people. Right now, you take that out
of the equation, which is what the heart left has done.
You have to understand what we're dealing with here. We
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deal with people who do not believe in God, do
not believe in the family unit. Um and uh. And
also capitalism a free market is taboo. Uh. The idea
of having a self sufficiency, have an empowerment of of
of ownership that is so against the other side that
we're dealing with. So if we begin with that premise
that we're dealing with an ideology and that ideology is
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almost like a spiritual religion of his own. Um, it's
it's it's the question you have to ask, and that
this is I just heard this other day. Uh. You know,
the the questions do you believe in God? And if
you believe in God and you and as long as
you do and you know that you're not Him, then
we have something we to talk about. We have a
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side of this, this process here that truly does want
to undermine who we are. And the most powerful thing
that we the people do is we talk. We we
we we we we look for harmony, look for ways
that we can find common interests. We look at a
football game or basketball in which we can we can
forget our division, our differences, our politics, and come together
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and root for our team and be friends. So those things,
those common bonds, that that makes our country what it is. God, family, country,
entertainment or sports, which we see and feels fell as
a team. That's what's made that has made us great.
And that's why whenever we have things like the nine
eleven or or Pearl Harbor, you find America's coming together
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like nothing else in the in the world. We come together,
we bond, and boy, there's no more more powerful than that.
The Left wants to destroy that. So don't don't look
for logic, and I guess that's my point. Don't look
for logic. We have conversations about the hard left. There's
no shame, Number one. When there's no God, there's no shame.
They'll do whatever they feel they have to do to win.
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And they don't care who who pays the price for them,
as long as they're not paying the price. They're used
to be as anyone and everything. And so that's what
we're seeing now. Uh uh they're they're going to uh
you know, they look so hard to find ways to
make white people feel guilty and black people feel angry.
And we have to get past this and recognize who
we are. I'll say this one of the great things
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about uh. This as tough as it was, and and
many of us lost good friends. Uh, you know, jobs
will become an issue. You have so many children now
that have lost a whole year. Uh. It was an
attack on our system. But that that has allowed us
also to pull back the curtains and start having conversations.
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It's canna be really important for us. So uh, we're
not waking up. We're not realizing that our freedoms are
so so gosh. Uh. The vulnerable we we just can't
take for granted. When also wake up, can't go to school,
can't can't go to church, um, can't open your business,
then we can have a conversation to bring us together.
So keep that in mind, and we and we continue
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to have these issues with race and racis and be
pushed up. Keep that in mind. It see logical, and
let's move forward to do something else. Before we move on,
I just want to remind our audience of things that
Republicans have experienced UH. And when it comes to people
making comments, whether they be insensitive or just racist, I
want to remind folks that Steve King, who was a
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Republican Congressman from Iowa in January nineteen, he said the
following line in an interview with The New York Times,
white nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization. How did that language
become offensive? Republicans across the board immediately rebuked him, removed
King from his committee assignments, and basically made him a pariah.
And then King lost reelection in and Jess this sheer
Goop leaders immediately and forcefully condemned Congressman Margi Taylor Green
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for comparing COVID related rules to the Holocaust. But the
Democrats have done nothing to condemn, let alone punish, UH
Congressman Omar for routinely making anti Semitic comments. She's still
on a House Foreign Affairs committee despite spread and missing
from Asian and demonizing our closest ally Israel. And obviously
they've been solid on President Biden son using an inn word.
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It seems that racism and bigotry are exposed to the
like Republicans condemned right away and Democrats don't. We're talking
to Congressman Verginson from the Great Thing of Utah. We've
got so much more with the Congressman right after this break.
Why did you decide to run for Congress? You? You know,
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you're you're a superhero of so many people. You talk
about you winning. Uh. You you worked in the NFL,
very successful. They're a champion there. You've obviously written books
done quite well and and that arena as well. And
you came into a space where people were really gonna
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begin to hate you. There's a shift that takes place
when you're a love of a love figure. You think
about somebody like Ben Carson, who was really loved in
the black community. I remember going up in Elment Entry
School and seeing this picture with Oprah Winfrey and many others.
Your picture may actually have been up there as well
as great black folks. But as soon as uh, you
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saw him switched not even switched gears who really talked
about his faith, who talked about the fact that he
was a Republican, he got hated. So why would you
Why would you do something like that? Like, you know,
you had a great life before. Why joined public service? Well? Uh,
because I also had a vision. I've had a mission,
and I've had that mission since I was uh since gosh,
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since I was very young. I was very fortunate to
have been raised at the time when when my community
really believed in and their mission is being their children
living better than they did. Their mission was the idea
that they were gonna command respect just by winning and
showing that they can and they can compete in any
arena um And we can spend time talking about that,
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but if you just go back to world. The warden
of the king Marches noticed that they were wearing white shirts,
dark ties, sometimes dress dress shoes because they wanted to
give the impression of a very professional, committed, disciplined, principal
articulate race because at that time who looked at as
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beneath the white race very inferior. So when I came
to the NFL, my mission, because I raised in this
community and I talked about Dad all the time, it
was it was a great nuttor and trying to find
out a high of ways to help young people is
I had the same dream. I had a dream of
coming out the NFL building a business and some kind
of weight turning, helping my race the kids and young
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people to have the same Well, well I I did.
But then when I when I end up uh, you know,
finally getting to where I had a non for profit
work with without risk kids, I realized, if we don't
change policies, that the kids don't have a chance. So
that's what I ended up doing, is is uh had
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I had that moment. I realized that in order to
make the difference with these average kids, boys and girls
coming out of jenneral system, giving them a second chance.
And I realized if if I didn't do something with policies,
that it would not change. So I had a friend
of mine who asked me to seriously consider it, and
I finally did, and I realized that this might be
an opportunity to do so. So um uh and and
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and to the point of being disliked. I think when
you if you understand, if you're gonna make a difference
in life, uh, that's that's the price. Um. Any time
that you're gonna make this country great, make your family great,
stand up for you, community standard for what's right, they're
gonna people come after you. That is the way it works,
as good and as evil, and the other side doesn't
like to see good moving forward. So I'll say I'll
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say this, big G. I will say the same thing
for you, man. I know, I know for you. I
know for you, Uh, it could be so much easier
just to go out there and live your life and
and do things that are kind of not too controversial
and you still succeed, but but you would not feel
good about yourself because you know there's something more in
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there that you gotta do. So I'm hoping that Americans
across our country, and this is every color and background,
let's remember UH. And you're not being talked to history,
find a way to learn the great history we have
and and be part moving forward of making sure our
country comes together. We're at a remarkable place now, and
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those of us who stand strong history is gonna look
back and say, this was the generation that did what
they had to do. They were the they were the
kids that were running the beaches in World War two.
There were the firemen that ran into the buildings of UH.
And that's kind of what we have to look at ourselves.
This is our moment to save our nation, but we
can only do that by standing up and fighting against
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the bullies and the cowards. Because that's what the left are,
the bullies and cowards. And if you let them run, run,
shot over you, they will take advantage of you. They
will never ever stop. They will just find another way
to command you do what they want to do. And
we need to need to push back on that absolutely,
and that and that's a good segue. I want to
shift topics with you and discuss a story that's been
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in the news. As you know, President Biden put well,
let me say, President Kamala Harris is Joe Biden sometimes
called her. President Biden put Vice President Kamala Harris in
charge of handling the border and Harris just went on
the first foreign trip as VP to Mexico and Guatemala.
By all accounts, the trip was a disaster. According to reports,
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olives of Biden and even some people close to Harris
think it went horribly and she was totally unprepared for
basic questions. How do you assess Kamala Harris job as
VP so far, especially in the handing handling of the
border crisis. But I want to appoint a clarification in
terms of her being unprepared for basic questions. She did
um an interview with NBC and she couldn't explain why
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she hasn't been to the actual border border to see
what's going on and see the crisis that's taken place.
And she said, well, I haven't been to Europe there,
what what does that have to do with anything? So
it was she fumbled the ball on the interview. She
she she really lost out and before her her peers
in other countries, because um, I think it was the
president of Guala Mana who said that the crisis of
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the borders the father Joe Biden. So you know they're
they're telling on them. What what do you how do
you assess her job thus far? They're lost in space? Um.
They really they're showing that there the lightweights. And it's
sad to see this. It really is for a country
as strong as as our country is, that is in
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a position have always been the leaders, and we've had
presidents who you know, have come and go on somewhere
good and bad, but not none of the presidents and
vice friends have been clueless. And that's what we have
right now. We see the first six months of this year.
You tell about turning around a society to where more
and more people in misery. Uh, and we see inflation.
Uh that and and and for for young people like yourself.
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Inflate has always been so small, so minute, so slow,
that you don't quite get it until maybe, you know,
five ten years later, we've seen this. Within six months,
we're seeing a board in which is truly open. Um.
It is. I just came back from the Daring Gap
last week. Uh. And that's that's that's the place down
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between Panama and Colombia. Uh. It's just where uh people
coming from all around the world, sixty countries, it comes
to this gap, and they're coming all from all around
the world. It's a very dangerous gap, by the way,
it's the most dangerous jungle in the world. And people
dying going in and coming out. Um. And they're being
the wounded. They're dying. If it is amaze that they
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have been robbed, the women are being abused. But they're
coming through because they get this bill welcome sign and
they feel they can live American dream because we have
a president who has no clue about the misery and
with the consequence of his words. So so this is
going to continue because at the end of the day,
the far left has a mission. The mission is to
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push so many people into our country that we don't
recognize who we are. So many people who come here
do not know us, our language, do not know our culture,
have no idea what the American dream, what a loving
our country. Even they come here because they can get
some they get a quote a good life. We have
a government's going to give them everything. And that's not
what's build our country. Our country is built on pioneers,
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on on risk takers, on people building a bigger dream
and so proud to be Americans that they would change
their name and that speak only English because they want
to be assimilated to the American way. That's not what
we're seeing cabinet here, because the Left would do anything
they can to get power and to change us from
the country that lives in God country, family, respect for
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women in authority. That's who we are, by the way,
they want to change that because something that's exactly the opposite.
We hate, We disrespect, We don't think a family is
what's supposed be. We have no God in our lives
because they are God. They want to be. They want
to be in control everything. That's what they want and
we've seen it before Cuba, um Nazi Germany, China, Um,
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any place that we've had, uh, totalitarianism, it's what they're
trying to get to. And then then they're gonna get
there because American people are waking up. And I just
have so much faith in who we are and who's
backing us up. And we're gonna make that, you know,
we get, we get, we're gonna ge control of this
country and then going the right direction for sure, and
and getting the control of this country encompasses I think
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all voices at the table, especially when you think about
congressional Congressional organizations like the Congressional Black Caucus, which uh
is a group that's supposed to be nonpartisan, is mostly
made up of Democrats since the nineteen seventies. Only a
few Republicans have been a part of it. You're obviously
want a hand. What maybe it's like three Republicans now
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in Congress you Byron Donald's, uh, and then Tim Scott, right,
so it's only it's only three of y'all. Now. Recently,
Congressman Byron Donald's he was looking to get into the
Congressional Black Caucus and he's been denied. I want to
play this clip and get your response to it, but
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I want to set it up for the audience. Here.
This clip is UH Congressman Donald's on South CNN and
they just play a collage of statements made by Trump.
They get his response and asking why does he want
to join the Black Caucus after having supported Donald Trump.
Take a listen to his response. First of all, whatever
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the President said in the pass, it's nothing to do
with this discussion at all. I think you've defended you.
Don't cut me off. I didn't. I have not cut
you often, and if you please do not do that
to me. Thank you. As a black man in America,
I'm allowed to have my own thoughts on who I
choose to support and who I choose not to support.
I think that it's important whether you're talking about the
Congressional Black Caucus, or the Florida State Legislative Black Caucus,
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or the National LA Caucus of state Black legislators organizations
I have been a part of in the past. My
supporter President Trump has been consistent, But at the same time,
I've had the ability to advocate for issues ideas proposals
and funding that have helped the black community in my state.
You're talking to somebody who my first three years in
college was that Florida A and M and HBCU. So
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whether my support my support for President Trump or whether
it's for against is irrelevant. That has nothing to do
with this discussion. This is whether the ideology of somebody
who is conservative is welcome in to Congressional Black Caucus.
It's really that simple. And so to bring up President
Trump and trying to make this about him does not matter.
It's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the situation
at hand. What did you think of what Congressman Donald's
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just had to say about that? Uh, well, I think
I think that, Uh he was spot on. Here's what
I wanted everybody to remember when it comes down to
the heart left. We talked about earlier who the true
racists are in our country. You see, they expe black
people to think exactly the same way because we're black.
They think we think with our skin, and if we
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don't say the right things, they're upset, they're frustrated, and
they wonder what the world we're thinking about. We must
be crazy. Well. Byron, by the way, is one of
the sharpish young man I've had a chance to me.
I've been so proud to serve with him. He will bring. UH.
He will bring to any organization a perspective and intelligence,
a way of kinding solutions. But what we're seeing here
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is a black call because that does not care, that
does not care at all about solutions. UH understand that
in every single UH community that's that that is going
through misery black community, who's in charge of that community?
Whereas the biggest literacy, the biggest crime, the destruction of
the family. UM, the anger, the anger that that takes
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people to the streets is always in the same people.
It's the same folks, the same the same areas and
in the in the same same places that have been
run by the Encourage to Congressional Black Caucus. I give
Byron a lot of credit because I had not I
had not myself want to be part of the organization
because I don't see that we have a lot in
common my goals and make sure that every community, no
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matter what the color is, is surviving and moving forward.
Particularly particularly because I'm a Black American. I want Black
Americans to feel and know that the American dream is
here for them too. And I'm realizing that every single
place that that these UH that this this caucus oversees
this misery. So uh So, I think there's a couple
of things that you see that and here the condescending
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attitude of these uh these white liberals is amazing. Here's
a congressman and she can't help herself by disrespecting him
the way in the tone that she gives the to
talk to this guy, to talk to Byron. Why because
in their mind, this is not a true Black American
and he does not deserve their respect because he's not
acting like black people should be acting. So there's a
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couple of things that unfolding this. Keep this in mind
of whatever you hear these people talk to conserve the
black people, and there's other side of it. And I say,
this is one of the worst things that thing has
happened to us. And I grew up in my community
that was a remarkless successful community in the sixties. Uh
And I just say this real quickly. Let our country
and growth, the middle class middle mem Ma tride late
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from college men permitted the marriage it was and the
percentage of entrepreneurs. That was a community I grew up them.
And what turned us upside down was not right supremacy.
It was black elitists, elitists that cared more about their power,
their positions, uh, their fame, they care about their community
and they put they just like a matter doors they
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opened their gates and let these folks come in and
destroy our community. And they're trying to do the same
thing today. So I want my friends out there to recognize, Uh,
we should not be we should not turn against each other.
We might not agree on everything, but we have the
same in game, which is to make sure our kids
have a remarkable future and that the opportunits are lives
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in pursuit of happiness for everyone, no matter what side
of the hour on we agree on that recognize their
people that do not want that to happen, and they
are our true enemy. Uh. And so this this, let's
make sure we're talking to friends and and and then
agreeing to disagree. We do that, and believe me, we
get luck further and it will understand again who our
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true enemy is, and that's who that those are people
who want to destroy everything. We believe that. Before we
move on, let's take a quick break, and I want
to ask you about sports. You obviously played in the
NFL for teen years, you're super Bowl champions. Sports are
traditionally patriotic and all about hard work and a meritocracy.
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But now professional sports leagues are becoming increasingly woke. They're
promoting Black lives matter, they're talking about laws that are
being proposed. What do you make of the NBA, NFL
and other sports lead becoming an increasingly political, political and
left wing I think the arrogant, delicious pair of price
they're arrogrant that there was a time when when woke
companies who cared about all their customers more than they
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cared about jumping into his proital political arena. What we're
seeing now is the results of having a terrible educational
system that teaches our young people to grow up and
be socialists. And they're now in charge. So they don't
care about the seventy four million other people that did
not vote for Biden. They care about their agenda. They
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care about again, the whole left agenda, which many of
us are against. So I football game in two years
and I won't. I'm a person to believes in being principal.
Let's give some things up, and when it comes down
to the free market, we give things up by not
paying for their services, and at some point they will
get it. Uh and and so I think that's that's
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important to keep them keep in mind. Uh we right now,
as they missed before, we're fighting for the hard soul,
our nation we want to place in which our kids
grow up looking at each other. The way my kids
were raised. It doesn't not care about the color or
the religion or their culture. You care more about the
fact that there's somebody that you that you have the
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same um basic beliefs in terms of content, helping people,
accepting people who they are, those are things we look
for and and and we cannot allow for our kids
to grow up in an environment that's teaching them to
hate other people based on their skin color. Uh. And
I just want to make this one point. I grew
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up in that that environment, uh, in which I never
and when I was in high school, did not develop
any white friends because we were getting through just that
that that first integration period and just just trying to
get an idea who we were. And and today, decades later,
when I run into some of my colleagues through that area,
we talked about how it's just so sorry we missed
that opportunity to spend time together, to date, to to
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hang out, to have fun because we were just trying
to get through that era. We were that we with
the generation that sacrifice a lot of friendships, so we
can get to the point now where none of that,
none of the stuff should matter. Let's not let's not
be the people that look back and our kids say,
I sure wish I had not gone through that era
I was taught to take to hate people, because now
I regret it. We cannot let our children say that
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one day. So let's uh, let's not let that happen. Absolutely,
And I wanna get in your if you tell people
about your book, and if you have any legislation coming up,
the folks at home should be aware about. Uh. We
will love to hear it. First of all, I had
a couple of books. The last one was Why I
Stand from Freedom to Killing Friends of Socialism. My first
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one was um. The first one was Liberalism or had
to turn the Good Minute to Winders, Winnings and Webbs.
Great great, great history about our our my race, about
our great country. But the most important thing right now
is that those are listening. Let's make sure we learn
our great history. That's what it comes down to now.
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Right now I'm on the judiciary and the ranking a
ranking member for h for education labor uh K through
pre K through twelve, and we're put together legislation to
make sure education is as an option for everyone. That
choice should be out there a big time. So just
keep in mind, keep that up as we move forward.
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Uh I would say that the goal is to make
sure that the Republican part is in charge in two
If we allow that to happen, we're gonna find policies.
It's gonna allow us our kids to have options, for
businesses to start running again. Black businesses out there can
can get back on track to become part of the
American dream. And we're gonna have ruling a rural rule
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of law where you build a business, you raise your family,
and you walk up your house and you feel safe
at the end of the day. That's what it comes
down to. We need to get back to basics. We
do that and America just wins. We do that to
make the to make that point for sure, thank you
Congressman for spending time with me here on allow with
Giano calls well and we want to be sure to
support your book. I think that you're an outstanding standard
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bear for what folks can aspire to. So we appreciate
your service and sacrifice. A super a super Bowl chimp
that uh went ten years, that's that's a long time.
But thank you so much for all that you do
for our country. Well, thank you, And let's just say this,
I have been so impressed. I know that our future
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is a good hands. We have strong, solid conservatives like
yourself that stand for the right and particulate yourself. And
this is a team effort. Uh, it's all we do.
We all do our parts. So I'm thankful that I'm
in the position i am. I'm also stateful friends like
you that gives us a voice, a platform that to
have these kind of conversations, and for people across the board,
it doesn't matter what our party is, is to have
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common sense conversations where we can come together and realize
we need to really work together harmonize again to keep
our country going strong. So thank you all right, absolutely,
and I think that was an incredible point that you
may having a platform to speak up because not everything
goes right within the party, would certainly call out if it,
if it, if things aren't going in the right direction.
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And absolutely that's the point we can have conversation, dialogue,
and it's not gonna be like on the other side
where they just you let stories like the Hunter Biden
in store in words story just go to go to
the wayside because he's a Democrat. We're gonna call it
out if necessary, and we're gonna keep moving forward to
ensure our party um has earned the respect of all Americans.
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So I appreciate that and thank you so so much
for your time, Congressman Burgess Owens. Um, I want to
thank Congressman Burgess Owens for a great interview. If you're
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Up next, how WOUDO called part of it? Has just
been confirmed that the President of the United States, Joe
Biden's son, Hunter Biden, has on numerous occasions used the
N word. I am not joking. I am not kidding.
The President of the United States of America's son, Hunter Biden,
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has used the INN word casually numerous times. A word
that has the ugliest history in our country. A word
that slave masters used while they were beating slaves to death,
a word the slave masters used when they lynched people
hung them from a tree, is one that casually comes
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out of the mouth of the President of the United
States son, Hunter Biden. What's even more interesting is the
fact that his father has used it in Congress. Meanwhile,
we're led to believe that Joe Biden is supposed to
be the uniter of this country. He's supposed to quash
all the race issues we have and bring us together,
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especially after what happened with George Floyd. I don't believe
one bit of it. I do not believe that Joe
Biden's son just recently started using it. I believe that
he's been using it, and I believe that he probably
heard it from his father to begin with. When I
look at the policies in which Joe Biden has provided
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to this country, things that have become law, His his
stands on segregation, racial jungles, as he said he didn't
want his kids growing up in a racial jungle. When
I think about his stance with the ninety four Crime
Bill creating it, imprisoning hundreds of thousands of African Americans,
impacting millions of families, millions of families impacted, I am
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not surprised that Joe Biden's son would get caught using
this ugly language. But my question is this, I don't
expect anything to change with Joe Biden. I don't expect
anything to change with Joe Biden's son. But will African
Americans black voters view Joe Biden's son and him differently?
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And we were to find out that Joe Biden uses
the word frequently and there was evidence provided, would they
view him differently or will they continue to support his administration?
That's the question that everyone should be asking right now,
because when Trump said things that were racially insensitive, and
he has said things that were racially insensitive, folks were
up in arms, and in some cases rightfully, so this
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should never ever ever be acceptable. And the fact that
we may not even see any outrage from the media
those on the left tells the whole story that when
it comes to racial reconciliation, for so many, it's a
talking point, it's a cold word, not to actually get
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anything changed in this country, but to use it as
a farce to get more black people voting for Democrats.
And this is only Gianno Caldwell's opinion. Black lives don't
matter the Democrats black votes do. And seeing things like
this coming from the Biden family as a clear and
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unacceptable example of it. Ye, welcome back to allow with
Gianno calledwell, well, folks, you just heard my monologue on
Hunter Biden, and you can tell that I'm quite fired up.
I'm piste off, to be honest with you. I'm just
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extraordinarily disappointed with what I see as medium oulpractice for
not covering a story that deserves attention in the President
of the United States sun especially who the president is called, uh,
the smartest person he knows and someone he takes advice
from on policy issues as well as I can imagine.
(04:05):
But I am honored to have a discussion with a
man that really needs no introduction. You know him as
a super Bowl champion. You also know him as a congressman,
and he just actually really recently became a congressman. His
name is Congressman Burgess Owens, and I'm telling you, folks,
he's a rock star, superstar right out of Utah. And
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I am so honored to have him here, and I'm
honored to call him a friend and a and a
new mentor to me. So I want to welcome Congressman
Burgesson and thank you for joining. And I allowed with
Gianno Caldwell. Thank you my friends, so so good talk
with you and uh and I look forward to this
these these topics we're going to go in the next
few nts. Absolutely, and last time I saw you, we
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had some really good conversation. We had lunch in Washington,
d C. And thank you for accepting my invitation to
join the show. So, as you know, I opened up
the show talking about the Hunter Biden story. I'm sure
you've read about it, and I know that you've tweeted
about out of as well. The President son used the
inn word repeatedly in several texting conversation with his white lawyer.
Some of these texts were also allude and just playing bizarre.
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Before getting into the media angle of the story, what
was your personal reaction when you heard about it, especially
as a black man who was raising the South during
Jim Crow Well, I think the uh, the response all
of us, anyone who who who understands the environment we're
in today and sensitive to it. Uh it. It's obviously upsetting,
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but it's not surprising. And I'll tell you why. And
this this goes I think more to the crickets we're
hearing from the media. I think that's really what we
need to look at as we talked about things like
systemic racism. Let's let's really peel back this a little bit.
I grew up in a Deep South, and at sixty
years old, I kind of recognized there are two types
of racist. One is the one that's in your face.
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Of course, being down South, Uh that we dealt with
him all the time. The good thing about the one
in your face, you know what to how to prepare yourself.
You you know, not to trust, you know, to be
ready to fight when you have to. But the ones
that's the most dangerous one is the one that smiles
your face gives you a big hug um and and
does everything to uh and just pulls you in real close,
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tells you how much you love you, and then at
the very end make sure you know that that your
inferior and that they are superior. That's the worst kind
because the trust factor is what allows you to believe
that they have your best interests in mind. We're seeing
a media now that uh that is nothing but full
of racists. Uh well nothing I should I should say
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this to racist and black elitist. We have the nub
A c P, we have the Black Caucus. The silence
of course on this because their their their end game
is not so much to pull to point out these
people that are not not uh supporting our race or
or doing those things that help our race move forward.
It's all about a gender of power and and we're
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seeing that as we speak, so um and just I
just want to add one little thing to to kind
of point this out. We have. Last week, there was
a a big report came out about the NFL. I
don't know how many of you guys have heard this one,
but NFL was paying black players less in conversation for
brain injuries and white players. And the reason they did
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that because they called it race norm they come up
with an algorithm in which black people are less intelligent,
so therefore, uh get the same injury, we get paid
less than they do now. And I have to understand
where where we're going with this. This is the kind
of stuff that I grew up in, this kind of stuff.
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I came into the NFL back in the nineteen seventy
three with when you actually have no no leadership positions quarterbacks, centers,
metal linebackers. These all were white leadership positions. We're now
doing the same thing in nine when NFL in which
the intelligence of the black race is baked in that
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we are less so uh so the broader pictures, Why
are we not talking about Hunter while we're not talking
about the NFL, while we're not talking about all the
things that that that that we end up finding on
the far left. That becomes very obvious when when all
these black businesses were being burned down and every urban
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city and all these black people being killed, there's something
that we have to understand that there is systemic racism
that's always on the other side. It's always on the
party that looks down on our race. Uh that does
not expect good things from us, that it's okay we
have high high crime, high uh literacy, h unemployment. That
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never seems to be the issue because it's always the
white man's problem. And so when I when I'm hoping
that the audience will will will see it's not just
about Hunter, um. Uh, it's about the entire process of
messag you are getting from the from the from the
far left. And if we understand that and recognize that
they're just not our friends. Uh. And I'm gonna tell
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you my my white American friends out there, Uh, we're
all any of all of us in the same same
same place. When it comes down to the far left,
when you're dealing with elitist, uh, it is a equal
opportunity uh provider. It doesn't matter who you are, what
color you are. Uh. Elitist love power and use anybody
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anything to get there. So we just have to be
aware of that and understand that's what the problem is.
So in terms of Hunter, he's got some big problems.
So as our president, it's become very obvious that there's
a consistency here. And not only we're gonna continue to
find out more about this this fella, but we're gonna
find a system of process in which will never get
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the truth when we need to hear so we can
make the decisions we need we needed to make. You know,
what's interesting to me because you you mentioned the media angle,
and you mentioned CBC and UH double A c P,
uh CNN, New York Times, we haven't heard anything. Washington Post,
we haven't heard anything. Just a handful of outlets really
picked up this story. And what's so disgusting to me
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is the media has been all over race based stories.
They've written stories about a fifteen year old girl. I
believe it was that you use the N word, and
I think her she had an application for college or
something other that was rejected. Because it's a story that
have come out, they've talked about the N word, with
none about non political figures. If Don Jr. I mean,
obviously know what everyone knows. If it was any of
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the Trump kids to use it, we have wall to
wall coverage. Donald Trump said in a campaign rally, he said, look,
my African American over there, my African American. You're a
powerful person, my African American. And you know the to paraphrase,
that's exactly what he's at my African American over there,
wall to wall coverage, Hunter Biden, nothing and what pisses
me off even more. And I'm gonna tell you, Congressman,
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can I call you Doc, because that's what I've been
calling Doc. I'm gonna tell you what pisces me off
even more is whenever that was a race story that
came out about Trump or any Republican I had people, friends,
people that I know call me, text me, you gotta
say something about this. You gotta speak out about this,
you gotta do you know what those people are now silent,
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They don't have no speaking out. I look on their
their social media page, there's no comments. I've called some
of them and they said, well, what relevance does this
really have He's not the president. Well you've talked about
other members of the Republican Party that wasn't the president
or elected who have said things. Now, I see what
has been race is in. Racism isn't an issue to
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be solved. It's an issue to benefit from for those
many of those on the left. And I don't want
to generalize everyone, because there's some people who are really
fighting for justice. I get that, but a lot of them,
the majority from what I can see, the vocal majority,
That's what I'll say. The vocal majority are all about
benefiting from racism to point at the other side versus
solving it or calling it out wherever it lies. And
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I think it's a problem for um, for our community,
for the black community. It's a problem because now democrats
realize because you won't get upset, you won't talk about it,
you won't be vocal about it. They see, really, we
don't need to do anything to get your vote, but
to call other side raises and we got you. What
do you make of this double standard? Well, first of all,
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we should be surprised what we have to do. And
this is really what it comes down here. I have
to understand who it is that we are working with
or working against, or who's who it is that we're
just trying to undermine. The fabric of who we are.
See is the fabric of America is one in which
we literally every generation become better looking at each other
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from the inside out. First, outside in the fabric is
our your deal Christian values, which says, no matter what
faith you worship, you're welcome here. But because worship have
a faith of faith in God, then we we we
we do our best to be blessed by him by
treating to other people. Right now, you take that out
of the equation, which is what the heart left has done.
You have to understand what we're dealing with here. We
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deal with people who do not believe in God, do
not believe in the family unit. Um and uh. And
also capitalism a free market is taboo. Uh. The idea
of having a self sufficiency, have an empowerment of of
of ownership that is so against the other side that
we're dealing with. So if we begin with that premise
that we're dealing with an ideology and that ideology is
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almost like a spiritual religion of his own. Um, it's
it's it's the question you have to ask, and that
this is I just heard this other day. Uh. You know,
the the questions do you believe in God? And if
you believe in God and you and as long as
you do and you know that you're not Him, then
we have something we to talk about. We have a
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side of this, this process here that truly does want
to undermine who we are. And the most powerful thing
that we the people do is we talk. We we
we we we we look for harmony, look for ways
that we can find common interests. We look at a
football game or basketball in which we can we can
forget our division, our differences, our politics, and come together
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and root for our team and be friends. So those things,
those common bonds, that that makes our country what it is. God, family, country,
entertainment or sports, which we see and feels fell as
a team. That's what's made that has made us great.
And that's why whenever we have things like the nine
eleven or or Pearl Harbor, you find America's coming together
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like nothing else in the in the world. We come together,
we bond, and boy, there's no more more powerful than that.
The Left wants to destroy that. So don't don't look
for logic, and I guess that's my point. Don't look
for logic. We have conversations about the hard left. There's
no shame, Number one. When there's no God, there's no shame.
They'll do whatever they feel they have to do to win.
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And they don't care who who pays the price for them,
as long as they're not paying the price. They're used
to be as anyone and everything. And so that's what
we're seeing now. Uh uh they're they're going to uh
you know, they look so hard to find ways to
make white people feel guilty and black people feel angry.
And we have to get past this and recognize who
we are. I'll say this one of the great things
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about uh. This as tough as it was, and and
many of us lost good friends. Uh, you know, jobs
will become an issue. You have so many children now
that have lost a whole year. Uh. It was an
attack on our system. But that that has allowed us
also to pull back the curtains and start having conversations.
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It's canna be really important for us. So uh, we're
not waking up. We're not realizing that our freedoms are
so so gosh. Uh. The vulnerable we we just can't
take for granted. When also wake up, can't go to school,
can't can't go to church, um, can't open your business,
then we can have a conversation to bring us together.
So keep that in mind, and we and we continue
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to have these issues with race and racis and be
pushed up. Keep that in mind. It see logical, and
let's move forward to do something else. Before we move on,
I just want to remind our audience of things that
Republicans have experienced UH. And when it comes to people
making comments, whether they be insensitive or just racist, I
want to remind folks that Steve King, who was a
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Republican Congressman from Iowa in January nineteen, he said the
following line in an interview with The New York Times,
white nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization. How did that language
become offensive? Republicans across the board immediately rebuked him, removed
King from his committee assignments, and basically made him a pariah.
And then King lost reelection in and Jess this sheer
Goop leaders immediately and forcefully condemned Congressman Margi Taylor Green
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for comparing COVID related rules to the Holocaust. But the
Democrats have done nothing to condemn, let alone punish, UH
Congressman Omar for routinely making anti Semitic comments. She's still
on a House Foreign Affairs committee despite spread and missing
from Asian and demonizing our closest ally Israel. And obviously
they've been solid on President Biden son using an inn word.
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It seems that racism and bigotry are exposed to the
like Republicans condemned right away and Democrats don't. We're talking
to Congressman Verginson from the Great Thing of Utah. We've
got so much more with the Congressman right after this break.
Why did you decide to run for Congress? You? You know,
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you're you're a superhero of so many people. You talk
about you winning. Uh. You you worked in the NFL,
very successful. They're a champion there. You've obviously written books
done quite well and and that arena as well. And
you came into a space where people were really gonna
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begin to hate you. There's a shift that takes place
when you're a love of a love figure. You think
about somebody like Ben Carson, who was really loved in
the black community. I remember going up in Elment Entry
School and seeing this picture with Oprah Winfrey and many others.
Your picture may actually have been up there as well
as great black folks. But as soon as uh, you
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saw him switched not even switched gears who really talked
about his faith, who talked about the fact that he
was a Republican, he got hated. So why would you
Why would you do something like that? Like, you know,
you had a great life before. Why joined public service? Well? Uh,
because I also had a vision. I've had a mission,
and I've had that mission since I was uh since gosh,
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since I was very young. I was very fortunate to
have been raised at the time when when my community
really believed in and their mission is being their children
living better than they did. Their mission was the idea
that they were gonna command respect just by winning and
showing that they can and they can compete in any
arena um And we can spend time talking about that,
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but if you just go back to world. The warden
of the king Marches noticed that they were wearing white shirts,
dark ties, sometimes dress dress shoes because they wanted to
give the impression of a very professional, committed, disciplined, principal
articulate race because at that time who looked at as
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beneath the white race very inferior. So when I came
to the NFL, my mission, because I raised in this
community and I talked about Dad all the time, it
was it was a great nuttor and trying to find
out a high of ways to help young people is
I had the same dream. I had a dream of
coming out the NFL building a business and some kind
of weight turning, helping my race the kids and young
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people to have the same Well, well I I did.
But then when I when I end up uh, you know,
finally getting to where I had a non for profit
work with without risk kids, I realized, if we don't
change policies, that the kids don't have a chance. So
that's what I ended up doing, is is uh had
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I had that moment. I realized that in order to
make the difference with these average kids, boys and girls
coming out of jenneral system, giving them a second chance.
And I realized if if I didn't do something with policies,
that it would not change. So I had a friend
of mine who asked me to seriously consider it, and
I finally did, and I realized that this might be
an opportunity to do so. So um uh and and
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and to the point of being disliked. I think when
you if you understand, if you're gonna make a difference
in life, uh, that's that's the price. Um. Any time
that you're gonna make this country great, make your family great,
stand up for you, community standard for what's right, they're
gonna people come after you. That is the way it works,
as good and as evil, and the other side doesn't
like to see good moving forward. So I'll say I'll
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say this, big G. I will say the same thing
for you, man. I know, I know for you. I
know for you, Uh, it could be so much easier
just to go out there and live your life and
and do things that are kind of not too controversial
and you still succeed, but but you would not feel
good about yourself because you know there's something more in
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there that you gotta do. So I'm hoping that Americans
across our country, and this is every color and background,
let's remember UH. And you're not being talked to history,
find a way to learn the great history we have
and and be part moving forward of making sure our
country comes together. We're at a remarkable place now, and
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those of us who stand strong history is gonna look
back and say, this was the generation that did what
they had to do. They were the they were the
kids that were running the beaches in World War two.
There were the firemen that ran into the buildings of UH.
And that's kind of what we have to look at ourselves.
This is our moment to save our nation, but we
can only do that by standing up and fighting against
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the bullies and the cowards. Because that's what the left are,
the bullies and cowards. And if you let them run, run,
shot over you, they will take advantage of you. They
will never ever stop. They will just find another way
to command you do what they want to do. And
we need to need to push back on that absolutely,
and that and that's a good segue. I want to
shift topics with you and discuss a story that's been
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in the news. As you know, President Biden put well,
let me say, President Kamala Harris is Joe Biden sometimes
called her. President Biden put Vice President Kamala Harris in
charge of handling the border and Harris just went on
the first foreign trip as VP to Mexico and Guatemala.
By all accounts, the trip was a disaster. According to reports,
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olives of Biden and even some people close to Harris
think it went horribly and she was totally unprepared for
basic questions. How do you assess Kamala Harris job as
VP so far, especially in the handing handling of the
border crisis. But I want to appoint a clarification in
terms of her being unprepared for basic questions. She did
um an interview with NBC and she couldn't explain why
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she hasn't been to the actual border border to see
what's going on and see the crisis that's taken place.
And she said, well, I haven't been to Europe there,
what what does that have to do with anything? So
it was she fumbled the ball on the interview. She
she she really lost out and before her her peers
in other countries, because um, I think it was the
president of Guala Mana who said that the crisis of
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the borders the father Joe Biden. So you know they're
they're telling on them. What what do you how do
you assess her job thus far? They're lost in space? Um.
They really they're showing that there the lightweights. And it's
sad to see this. It really is for a country
as strong as as our country is, that is in
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a position have always been the leaders, and we've had
presidents who you know, have come and go on somewhere
good and bad, but not none of the presidents and
vice friends have been clueless. And that's what we have
right now. We see the first six months of this year.
You tell about turning around a society to where more
and more people in misery. Uh, and we see inflation.
Uh that and and and for for young people like yourself.
(23:59):
Inflate has always been so small, so minute, so slow,
that you don't quite get it until maybe, you know,
five ten years later, we've seen this. Within six months,
we're seeing a board in which is truly open. Um.
It is. I just came back from the Daring Gap
last week. Uh. And that's that's that's the place down
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between Panama and Colombia. Uh. It's just where uh people
coming from all around the world, sixty countries, it comes
to this gap, and they're coming all from all around
the world. It's a very dangerous gap, by the way,
it's the most dangerous jungle in the world. And people
dying going in and coming out. Um. And they're being
the wounded. They're dying. If it is amaze that they
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have been robbed, the women are being abused. But they're
coming through because they get this bill welcome sign and
they feel they can live American dream because we have
a president who has no clue about the misery and
with the consequence of his words. So so this is
going to continue because at the end of the day,
the far left has a mission. The mission is to
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push so many people into our country that we don't
recognize who we are. So many people who come here
do not know us, our language, do not know our culture,
have no idea what the American dream, what a loving
our country. Even they come here because they can get
some they get a quote a good life. We have
a government's going to give them everything. And that's not
what's build our country. Our country is built on pioneers,
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on on risk takers, on people building a bigger dream
and so proud to be Americans that they would change
their name and that speak only English because they want
to be assimilated to the American way. That's not what
we're seeing cabinet here, because the Left would do anything
they can to get power and to change us from
the country that lives in God country, family, respect for
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women in authority. That's who we are, by the way,
they want to change that because something that's exactly the opposite.
We hate, We disrespect, We don't think a family is
what's supposed be. We have no God in our lives
because they are God. They want to be. They want
to be in control everything. That's what they want and
we've seen it before Cuba, um Nazi Germany, China, Um,
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any place that we've had, uh, totalitarianism, it's what they're
trying to get to. And then then they're gonna get
there because American people are waking up. And I just
have so much faith in who we are and who's
backing us up. And we're gonna make that, you know,
we get, we get, we're gonna ge control of this
country and then going the right direction for sure, and
and getting the control of this country encompasses I think
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all voices at the table, especially when you think about
congressional Congressional organizations like the Congressional Black Caucus, which uh
is a group that's supposed to be nonpartisan, is mostly
made up of Democrats since the nineteen seventies. Only a
few Republicans have been a part of it. You're obviously
want a hand. What maybe it's like three Republicans now
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in Congress you Byron Donald's, uh, and then Tim Scott, right,
so it's only it's only three of y'all. Now. Recently,
Congressman Byron Donald's he was looking to get into the
Congressional Black Caucus and he's been denied. I want to
play this clip and get your response to it, but
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I want to set it up for the audience. Here.
This clip is UH Congressman Donald's on South CNN and
they just play a collage of statements made by Trump.
They get his response and asking why does he want
to join the Black Caucus after having supported Donald Trump.
Take a listen to his response. First of all, whatever
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the President said in the pass, it's nothing to do
with this discussion at all. I think you've defended you.
Don't cut me off. I didn't. I have not cut
you often, and if you please do not do that
to me. Thank you. As a black man in America,
I'm allowed to have my own thoughts on who I
choose to support and who I choose not to support.
I think that it's important whether you're talking about the
Congressional Black Caucus, or the Florida State Legislative Black Caucus,
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or the National LA Caucus of state Black legislators organizations
I have been a part of in the past. My
supporter President Trump has been consistent, But at the same time,
I've had the ability to advocate for issues ideas proposals
and funding that have helped the black community in my state.
You're talking to somebody who my first three years in
college was that Florida A and M and HBCU. So
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whether my support my support for President Trump or whether
it's for against is irrelevant. That has nothing to do
with this discussion. This is whether the ideology of somebody
who is conservative is welcome in to Congressional Black Caucus.
It's really that simple. And so to bring up President
Trump and trying to make this about him does not matter.
It's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the situation
at hand. What did you think of what Congressman Donald's
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just had to say about that? Uh, well, I think
I think that, Uh he was spot on. Here's what
I wanted everybody to remember when it comes down to
the heart left. We talked about earlier who the true
racists are in our country. You see, they expe black
people to think exactly the same way because we're black.
They think we think with our skin, and if we
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don't say the right things, they're upset, they're frustrated, and
they wonder what the world we're thinking about. We must
be crazy. Well. Byron, by the way, is one of
the sharpish young man I've had a chance to me.
I've been so proud to serve with him. He will bring. UH.
He will bring to any organization a perspective and intelligence,
a way of kinding solutions. But what we're seeing here
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is a black call because that does not care, that
does not care at all about solutions. UH understand that
in every single UH community that's that that is going
through misery black community, who's in charge of that community?
Whereas the biggest literacy, the biggest crime, the destruction of
the family. UM, the anger, the anger that that takes
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people to the streets is always in the same people.
It's the same folks, the same the same areas and
in the in the same same places that have been
run by the Encourage to Congressional Black Caucus. I give
Byron a lot of credit because I had not I
had not myself want to be part of the organization
because I don't see that we have a lot in
common my goals and make sure that every community, no
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matter what the color is, is surviving and moving forward.
Particularly particularly because I'm a Black American. I want Black
Americans to feel and know that the American dream is
here for them too. And I'm realizing that every single
place that that these UH that this this caucus oversees
this misery. So uh So, I think there's a couple
of things that you see that and here the condescending
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attitude of these uh these white liberals is amazing. Here's
a congressman and she can't help herself by disrespecting him
the way in the tone that she gives the to
talk to this guy, to talk to Byron. Why because
in their mind, this is not a true Black American
and he does not deserve their respect because he's not
acting like black people should be acting. So there's a
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couple of things that unfolding this. Keep this in mind
of whatever you hear these people talk to conserve the
black people, and there's other side of it. And I say,
this is one of the worst things that thing has
happened to us. And I grew up in my community
that was a remarkless successful community in the sixties. Uh
And I just say this real quickly. Let our country
and growth, the middle class middle mem Ma tride late
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from college men permitted the marriage it was and the
percentage of entrepreneurs. That was a community I grew up them.
And what turned us upside down was not right supremacy.
It was black elitists, elitists that cared more about their power,
their positions, uh, their fame, they care about their community
and they put they just like a matter doors they
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opened their gates and let these folks come in and
destroy our community. And they're trying to do the same
thing today. So I want my friends out there to recognize, Uh,
we should not be we should not turn against each other.
We might not agree on everything, but we have the
same in game, which is to make sure our kids
have a remarkable future and that the opportunits are lives
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in pursuit of happiness for everyone, no matter what side
of the hour on we agree on that recognize their
people that do not want that to happen, and they
are our true enemy. Uh. And so this this, let's
make sure we're talking to friends and and and then
agreeing to disagree. We do that, and believe me, we
get luck further and it will understand again who our
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true enemy is, and that's who that those are people
who want to destroy everything. We believe that. Before we
move on, let's take a quick break, and I want
to ask you about sports. You obviously played in the
NFL for teen years, you're super Bowl champions. Sports are
traditionally patriotic and all about hard work and a meritocracy.
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But now professional sports leagues are becoming increasingly woke. They're
promoting Black lives matter, they're talking about laws that are
being proposed. What do you make of the NBA, NFL
and other sports lead becoming an increasingly political, political and
left wing I think the arrogant, delicious pair of price
they're arrogrant that there was a time when when woke
companies who cared about all their customers more than they
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cared about jumping into his proital political arena. What we're
seeing now is the results of having a terrible educational
system that teaches our young people to grow up and
be socialists. And they're now in charge. So they don't
care about the seventy four million other people that did
not vote for Biden. They care about their agenda. They
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care about again, the whole left agenda, which many of
us are against. So I football game in two years
and I won't. I'm a person to believes in being principal.
Let's give some things up, and when it comes down
to the free market, we give things up by not
paying for their services, and at some point they will
get it. Uh and and so I think that's that's
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important to keep them keep in mind. Uh we right now,
as they missed before, we're fighting for the hard soul,
our nation we want to place in which our kids
grow up looking at each other. The way my kids
were raised. It doesn't not care about the color or
the religion or their culture. You care more about the
fact that there's somebody that you that you have the
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same um basic beliefs in terms of content, helping people,
accepting people who they are, those are things we look
for and and and we cannot allow for our kids
to grow up in an environment that's teaching them to
hate other people based on their skin color. Uh. And
I just want to make this one point. I grew
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up in that that environment, uh, in which I never
and when I was in high school, did not develop
any white friends because we were getting through just that
that that first integration period and just just trying to
get an idea who we were. And and today, decades later,
when I run into some of my colleagues through that area,
we talked about how it's just so sorry we missed
that opportunity to spend time together, to date, to to
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hang out, to have fun because we were just trying
to get through that era. We were that we with
the generation that sacrifice a lot of friendships, so we
can get to the point now where none of that,
none of the stuff should matter. Let's not let's not
be the people that look back and our kids say,
I sure wish I had not gone through that era
I was taught to take to hate people, because now
I regret it. We cannot let our children say that
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one day. So let's uh, let's not let that happen. Absolutely,
And I wanna get in your if you tell people
about your book, and if you have any legislation coming up,
the folks at home should be aware about. Uh. We
will love to hear it. First of all, I had
a couple of books. The last one was Why I
Stand from Freedom to Killing Friends of Socialism. My first
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one was um. The first one was Liberalism or had
to turn the Good Minute to Winders, Winnings and Webbs.
Great great, great history about our our my race, about
our great country. But the most important thing right now
is that those are listening. Let's make sure we learn
our great history. That's what it comes down to now.
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Right now I'm on the judiciary and the ranking a
ranking member for h for education labor uh K through
pre K through twelve, and we're put together legislation to
make sure education is as an option for everyone. That
choice should be out there a big time. So just
keep in mind, keep that up as we move forward.
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Uh I would say that the goal is to make
sure that the Republican part is in charge in two
If we allow that to happen, we're gonna find policies.
It's gonna allow us our kids to have options, for
businesses to start running again. Black businesses out there can
can get back on track to become part of the
American dream. And we're gonna have ruling a rural rule
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of law where you build a business, you raise your family,
and you walk up your house and you feel safe
at the end of the day. That's what it comes
down to. We need to get back to basics. We
do that and America just wins. We do that to
make the to make that point for sure, thank you
Congressman for spending time with me here on allow with
Giano calls well and we want to be sure to
support your book. I think that you're an outstanding standard
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bear for what folks can aspire to. So we appreciate
your service and sacrifice. A super a super Bowl chimp
that uh went ten years, that's that's a long time.
But thank you so much for all that you do
for our country. Well, thank you, And let's just say this,
I have been so impressed. I know that our future
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is a good hands. We have strong, solid conservatives like
yourself that stand for the right and particulate yourself. And
this is a team effort. Uh, it's all we do.
We all do our parts. So I'm thankful that I'm
in the position i am. I'm also stateful friends like
you that gives us a voice, a platform that to
have these kind of conversations, and for people across the board,
it doesn't matter what our party is, is to have
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common sense conversations where we can come together and realize
we need to really work together harmonize again to keep
our country going strong. So thank you all right, absolutely,
and I think that was an incredible point that you
may having a platform to speak up because not everything
goes right within the party, would certainly call out if it,
if it, if things aren't going in the right direction.
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And absolutely that's the point we can have conversation, dialogue,
and it's not gonna be like on the other side
where they just you let stories like the Hunter Biden
in store in words story just go to go to
the wayside because he's a Democrat. We're gonna call it
out if necessary, and we're gonna keep moving forward to
ensure our party um has earned the respect of all Americans.
(38:30):
So I appreciate that and thank you so so much
for your time, Congressman Burgess Owens. Um, I want to
thank Congressman Burgess Owens for a great interview. If you're
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