Episode 48: Breaking the Myth: The Failure of Liberalism in Inner Cities with Kim Klacik

America’s inner cities have been flooded with federal money for decades, yet they remain riddled with crime, poverty, and terrible schools. And today these problems only seem to be getting worse, especially in Baltimore and Chicago. Why is this the case, and what can be done about it? For this podcast, Gianno digs into the facts and sheds light on some unpleasant truths in a very special episode. Gianno brings on his good friend, conservative rock star Kimberly Klacik, to co-host with him this week. They have an in-depth and wide-ranging conversation about the rise in violent crime devastating America’s cities, the terrible state of education in these same cities, and all things COVID. Plus, Gianno asks Kim about her political future — and gets an exclusive about what she has planned.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next, Out Loud with Gianno called America's inner cities
have been flooded with federal money for decades, yet they
remained riddled with crime, poverty, and terrible schools. And today
these problems only seem to be getting worse, especially in
Baltimore in Chicago. Why is this the case and what

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can be done about it? Today? I dig into the
facts and shed light on some of the unpleasant truths
with a very special guest. This is Outlied with Gianno Caldwell.

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Welcome back to Allied with Gianno Calblo. I'm Giano Calblin
and I've got an amazing show for you guys this week.
We're doing something different, but I think you'll enjoy it.
I'm bringing on my dear friend Kimberly Klasick, who I'm
sure many of you already know, to co host with
me this week. Rather than me interviewing her as I
do with most of my guests, We're gonna tag team

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this episode, having a really honest and in depth conversation
who knows, maybe even a debate on issues we both
really care about. Now, for those of you who don't
know Kim, she's a rock star in the Republican Party
in the Conservative movement in Camera and for Congress in
Maryland seven District, which includes much of Baltimore, winning the

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Republican nomination. During the campaign, Kim gained national fame for
her creative and hard hitting ads calling out Baltimore's Democrat
leaders for filling the city's residents for decades. Earlier this year,
following the campaign, Kim founded Red Renaissance, a new and
influential political action committee dedicated to supporting the next generation

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of conservative leaders. Kim and I will discuss her pack
and plans for the future, but first we dig in
to the rise in violent crime devastating American cities, the
terrible state of education in these cities, and all things COVID.
Trust me, you don't want to miss this one. Stay
in your seats. And with that, I want to bring

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on my very dear friend, Kimberly Klasick. Kim, thank you
so much for doing this. I'm so excited to have
you on. This is really for me. Uh, it's an honor.
In a full circle moment, I remember many many years
ago how we met. You reached out to me on
Twitter and you wanted to talk about media, and I
was like, wow, Okay, first and foremost, this young lady

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is very beautiful, Like who is this? Why haven't I
heard of her just yet? And we madden hit a
very friendly conversation, and um, from there has been just
a tremendous friendship of growth. You've grown in media and
so have I don't think at that point I was
on Fox News. But the little advice I was able

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to offer you in contact, you took and you blew
it up and did something that I've never seen anyone
else do. So it's an honor to be working with
you and co hosting this show with you. I don't
thank you so much for having me back. I was
just thinking about the fact I think that was two
thousand and fourteen, and that we met up and you
were giving me advice at a coffee shop, and if

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you remember all those details, yeah, I do Starbucks on
Capitol I remember that day. Yeah, yeah. And then from
there I went and did the show with with Roland Martin,
I believe Roll one American News Network, and then it
was Roland Martin. But you you just stayed consistent in
your approach. You continue to push. We talked regularly throughout
and then you became a big superstar. And I don't

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know if you recall, during that Starbucks visit on Capitol Hill,
I said, and I recalled, I said, you can be
very big. You got it. You just gotta push through, Uh,
star writing, do TV media, But I think you could
be a big star. Remember me saying that to you?
I do, I do, And I didn't believe you. I
was like talking point talking point indeed, but you are

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a big star. So it worked out. So I'm happy
to be here with you. So as we talk about
what's really devastating the violent crime in America cities, it's
it seemingly always an issue, but it's especially more of
an issue now in the in the wake of George Floyd,
and you see how the Democratic Party has been running

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the country from the White House to these Chicago you
talk about Baltimore, going to Detroit, any of these urban centers,
for the residents there, it's hell on earth for many
of those folks. And you really made a name for yourself,
uh when it comes to Baltimore by shooting film of

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the waste in the city where people were actually living,
seeing the environment. And President Trump took it upon himself
to repeat a number of your videos and it really
put you on a rocket. No. Absolutely, and I'm so
blessed that. I feel so fortunate for that happening. This
is why I tell people on of time, like, if
you have something going on in your community and you

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know it's not right, and you know, government can get
involved because you're paying taxes and it's their job. Anyways,
what I did was basically take my cell phone and
made a couple of videos showing just all of the
trash in all the crumbling infrastructure, and I kept posting
it and I did it for about a week. Um,
and then that's when I got a call from a
producer at Fox News and they're like, um, can you

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tell us where you are? And I was like, I'm
in Baltimore, and she thought I was in another country.
She had no idea. Yes, that's what's so crazy about it.
And she said, well, you gotta come on and explain.
And so I went on Fox and Friends that morning,
and it just so happened. President Trump was watching at
that moment, and when he retweeted the videos, he was like, look,
I know for a fact, we have sent millions of

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dollars to Baltimore. Recently, you know, because right after the
the riots that we had in two thousand fifteen, after
the death of Freddy Gray, President Barack Obama and President
Trump sent a ton of money to Baltimore and into
that area where I took the video ols that I
was just showing people. Look, they haven't done anything on
the ground here, and it's been years, and so I

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just felt very fortunate that the story got picked up
and people got to see what was going on. And
you've not stopped since then. You ran for Congress, but
you're still in the community, You're still in Baltimore, you're
still talking to the residents. In fact, we have some
exclusive audio that we want to play from one of
the residents that you you're you're providing for for our
show today. Yeah. Well, man, I'm scared to go out myself.

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I mean, uh, you know, we got Baltimore is on
um track club having three murder in a in a
in a year for a seven year row climb is up.
I can't go to the can't go to the gas station,
gas station people being robbed at the gas station down
when they pulled their cars up to the punt. I mean,
what are we supposed to do here. Baltimore commons, it's

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just out of control. Baltimo was one of the Uh,
this is one of the more worst cities for climb
in America. We're just supposed to do now, Kim, this,
this is your community. What do you think when you
hear this? It's the exact truth. And so when we
see people coming out and talking about defunding the police,
I want people to know in Baltimore City, especially West Baltimore,

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absolutely no one there wants to defund the police. They
actually want more of a police presence. And as that
gentleman was saying that the whole car jacking is through
the roof right now, armed carjackings, a lot of juveniles
are doing it. A lot of juveniles are getting away
with it because they know right now our state's attorney
isn't really prosecuting juveniles. So we call it a walk

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through here. You know, a police officer might arrest the
juvenile for an armed carjacking, but he's able to go
to central booking and walk right out because unfortunately, right
now they're not really prosecuting juveniles. UM. So it's a
very scary situation for those that live here. UM. And
we have a lot of senior citizens. They're the ones
that actually own their homes in these neighborhoods, and they're
afraid to go outside. Man. That's that's that's really devastating.

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And and and honestly, you know, you have experienced some
of these things yourself. It's not as you're just getting audio.
You've been in these neighborhoods. You've lived in one of
these neighborhoods before where they were shooting on the block.
You live knowing, right, correct? Even I guess it was
maybe two weeks ago. We were at an event one
of my managers here at Renaissance. They were hosting a

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town hall. We wanted to actually get people together in
a room at a church, Simmons Morel Baptist Church, and
just asked them what were their immediate needs right, what
can we do right this second to cure some of
the problems. And so we're all sitting there, we talk,
we're there for about an hour, we go outside, and
of course, further down the street we hear gunshots. It's

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literally NonStop, right, and and so a lot of times
we talk about the homicide, but we don't talk about
the shootings. We don't talk about the attempted murders. We
don't talk about them. Shootings basically heard and even though
they don't hit anyone, but those are attempts on someone's life,
and so we don't talk about that. But that's ongoing
in these neighborhoods. That's that's terrible. So anything gonna happen

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with the state's attorney there. So our states Attorney Maryland Mosby,
she's a self proclaimed progressive, so she's not actually prosecuting
what she calls low level crimes right now. Um, so
she's not prosecuting those dealing drugs, prostitution. Uh, there's like
a list of things, and she calls it victimless crimes.

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But we know those crimes lead to bigger crimes. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's it's unbelievable at what she does.
But we have violent repeat offenders on our streets as well.
And you take a look at what's going on in Baltimore.
We have shooters that have been caught with handguns scene,
leaving the scene of a crime, and they still just
to get to walk free. And it's unbelievable to me.

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You know what's interesting to me is we talked a
lot about criminal justice reform. And when the First Step
Act came up, we had a lot of conservatives. It
was a vocal minority, I should say a vocal minority
of conservatives who were saying, listen, we can't do any
criminal justice reform because then you're gonna allow those criminal
back onto the street, lighter sentences. Crime will will get worse,

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it will become worse. When we heard that, a lot
of us we pushed back on that. But we are
seeing crime become worse. But can anyone articulate that that's
because of the criminal justice reform? I e. People may
think that the laws have been weakened. Therefore the criminals
have become really bullish on committing to crimes in in
the area. Do you do you think that might have

(10:26):
anything to do with it? No? No, And I think
we're both we both know Doron Smith right, that was
right right, and he was the one that authored a
lot of that. For me, the proof is in the pudding, right.
Most of these crimes and most of the riseing crime
is happening in cities where you have progressive mayors and
progressive prosecutors. So it was really criminal justice reform because

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that was something that happened on a federal level. We
would see it in all areas, right, but we only
see it in these particular areas that progressives are in charge.
So I think it's fact that they're soft on criminals altogether.
I still believe that people should have second chances, especially
if it is what we call those victimus crimes. We
have a lot of people that come out of prison

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that want to do the right thing, and I believe
that they should have the chance to do so well.
I think with that Criminal Justice Reform, the biggest piece
of it was the First Step Act allowing individuals as
they're coming out of prison a chance to get caught
up on what we got in the tech boom and
you know, getting some skills understanding how to put their
resumes together. And so we're not releasing criminals not able

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to then go and get a job, because the last
thing we wanted for them to end up back in prison.
So I thought Criminal Justice Reform First Step Act. I
thought they were both great, at which President Trump got
more credit for him than he did. He was he
was the reason he was because the folks that the
very again vocal minority on the right, because Democrats played

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a game with it too, So Democrats were all for it.
When Republicans got on board, they were against it. Is
that all we can't do it. They didn't want Republicans
to get any credit. And then we had a vocal
minority on the right, people like Senator Tom Cotton, people
like the Senator Ted Cruz, who were saying, yeah, we
don't think we should be getting involved in that. In
Senator Mike Lee, a former federal prosecutor. Uh, he was

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a very big advocate for it, and he laid out
some brilliant points to counter all the nonsense from Senator
Ted Cruz. So that that was that was great. However,
President Trump was the reason. If it wasn't for him
pushing it, Mitch McConnell and others as hard as he did,
it would not have happened. So he does deserve a

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lot of credit. And I still stand by my statement
which I've made in the past. President Trump has been
the most productive advocate for policy that impacts black folks
most We've never seen the president like that on so
many issues and one term, especially being your term, no

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Democrat or Republicans, So he does deserve that credit, which
we know Democrats will not give him, not at all.
And we saw it on the heels of our first
black president, President Barack Obama, and I think that's also
what woke a lot of people up in the black community.
It was like, wow, you know, we had a black
president and and these are the things that he should

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have been pushing, but it took President Trump to come
along to get it done. So yes, I thank President
Trump for doing that, but I really am just so
disheartened by the progressives that really feel the need to
basically turn everything around and be soft on criminals when
they're praying on the individuals living in these dangerous neighborhoods. Indeed,

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so we talked about Baltimore, but you know, I gotta
ask you as far as Chicago, Um, I know that
your homicides are up fifty and shootings are up sixty
three compared to what you had going on in two
thousand nineteen. Its routine for several dozen people to be
shot over any given weekend, and we watched that play out.
And I know, I see on Twitter all the time

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just that the amount of numbers coming out of Chicago
as far as shootings, I just gotta ask, what are
people in Chicago saying about the spike in violets. You
know what, can I gotta tell you, Chicago is my home,
has been my home forever in a day. I will
always rep Chicago as hard as I can. I grew
up on the South Side of Chicago, se hard, seventy
second in Dorchester, A hundred and nineteenth in Michigan, all

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over the South Side of Chicago. Love the city to
this day, but I am horrified. I am horrified by
what I see there on a day to day basis,
and I'm actually piste the hell off. I'm pissed the
hell off for a number of reasons in general, but
I'm piste the hell off, but specifically around something that

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just happened recently in my family's life. Last weekend, I
was in Italy. I got a call from my little
sister on a Saturday, Apparently that Friday night, she was
walking with her infant child from the grocery store, infant
child and two people approached her, no interactions with him beforehand,

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and they approached her, a man and a woman, both adults,
and they beat the hell out of her, pushed it
to the ground, kicked her in her face, kicked in
her stomach, her body, while her child was there, her
infant child, he's only like what three or four months old,
And then they pulled a gun out on her and
they said, we will kill you and your child. She

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thankfully lived, but so many people in that same situation,
only by God's grace, but so many people in that
same situation would have been killed, no question about it,
and and and never probably would have received justice for it.
That Chicago Sometimes just came out with an analysis showing
that since ten since twenty sixteen, over a thousand shooting

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victims a hundred and six that died, there were only
two convictions, two out of over a thousand. I think
that number was a thousand thirty three I think was
the actual number for the analysis. But since this is
the justice, that they're getting, no justice at all, and meanwhile,
it I think hardens the criminal. If I'm not gonna

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get convicted for it, if I'm not gonna face any
any real charges for why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I
walk down the street with an a K forty seven?
Why wouldn't I go and attack somebody just randomly, which
is something that used to actually do when I was.
I was growing up. At times you'll see kids that
would jump on you at the bus, but you weren't
losing your life per se. They may beat the beat
you up, or they may try to rob you or something.

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But this is a whole different beast, and it's a
satanic one it at that. So yeah, I'm really upset
by how the direction of my city. I think the
County prosecutor she is a big part of the problem.
She's a big part of the problem. That's why so
much bloo hut in the streets of Chicago because she's
letting the criminals off. Twenty five thousand felony cases dropped,

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including murders under her leadership. This is not an American
city anymore, as a third world country with some good
people living in it. And it's it's just really insane,
and it's shameful where we are at it's time in
our country. And it's even more shameful that people like
the Biden administration who said that they were gonna be
advocates for for those who feel like they've been left

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out of the American dream, they're not advocates for the
people in Baltimore. They're not advocates for the people in Chicago.
Joe Joe Biden is an advocate for any of those people.
He may be an advocate for those who are coming
in over our southern boarder, the migrants that are coming
over here bringing thousands of cases of COVID, he may
be an advocate for them. In fact, he's probably their president,

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because that seems to be the only folks that he
cares about. When you have American citizens who are suffering
on a day to day basis in places like Chicago
and Baltimore, it's ridiculous. It's upsetting, and I cannot stand
this ish anymore. I'm very disappointed. I am so sorry
that your cousin, I mean your family and my little sister,

(18:09):
my my blood little sister. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm glad that she's okay. I guess
the prosecutor there is, is that Kim Fox? Yeah, that's
Kim Fox's county. Yes. So what are Chicago's liberal political
leaders and people like Kim Fox, the prosecutors, what are
they doing to reverse this trend? I mean, we've they've

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been trying to reverse the trend. And look, let me
not saying that they've not necessarily been trying to reverse
the trend. They've been saying they're trying to reverse the trend. However,
as I mentioned, if you're gonna drop twenty five thousand
felony cases, including murder, then that tells me uh and
her predecessor closed way more cases and had more convictions

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than than Kim Fox. That tells me you're not a
part of the selution, You're part of the problem. So
how we reverse the trend? New leadership? Get rid of
the county prosecutor, bringing somebody who's gonna be tough on crime.
That can be a Republican or even a Democrat. You
can have sensible policies that that can be supportive of
those who want to have second chances, that were willing

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to put in the work, but punish the criminals and
especially those repeat offenders. You can. You can do all
of that as a county prosecutor. Ours just isn't And
the mayor is another person the blame game that she's doing. Oh,
violence is so bad in Chicago because of racism and
sexism and people, you know, it's just ridiculous, Like, I

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don't know if these people are ready to start working
at MSNBC or what these talking points are really for.
But it makes no sense, it's not based in fact.
And I think a lot of Chicagoans, a lot of
Chicagoans are upset with the leadership of these folks and
I can only hope, I can only hope that they're
gonna do the right thing when it comes to election time. Yeah,

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I mean, I hope so too. In Baltimore, just to
give every to feel for this, in Baltimore City, of
the homicides are ever solved in Baltimore County, the neighboring
county where we have a moderate Democratic attorney, of those
homicides get solved, and so you have to look at
it and say, it is definitely leader. Them get solved

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in Baltimore County, only gets solved in Baltimore City. And
that's like I said, they're neighboring county. So it's crazy
and it's definitely comes on to leadership. What do you
think is causing the surgeon crime in Chicago? Do you
think that's part of the defund the police movement? You know,
it's interesting when it comes to the defund the police movement,

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I think if we're just purely looking at the numbers.
Just overall in the country, sixty three of the sixty
six largest police jurisdiction saw increases in crime, and at
least one category. If you saw the Fox News polling,
it showed eventy seven percent I believe it was, but
it was in the seventies seventy percentile. Believe that there

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is much more crime than that was last year and
probably has been in many, many years decades. I mean,
the last time we saw a crime like this, I think,
really and truly was during the crack epidemic. I think
in the eighties the nineties, especially in Chicago inner cities.
We saw how badly those cities were beaten up by

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the drug dealers and the gangs that were controlling the
market of drugs. We saw how how those things impacted
cities like Los Angeles. We saw it in New York,
we saw it in Baltimore, we saw it in Chicago.
But things did change and get better at a point.
But now it seems as though we're back on that trend,
which is completely unfortunate. But Democrats have themselves to blame. Honestly,

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George Floyd Dyan was not a mission slip to say
we're gonna defund the police, or we're gonna create an
environment where criminals can kind of do their thing and
and decriminalized crime, if you will, that's the term, right,
criminalized crime. That's where we are now. Democrats across the
country have decriminalized crime. Therefore, you see places like San

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Francisco where they go into Walgreens with garbage bags steal
everything off the chef while people watch, because they have
laws in place which says you can't you can't even call.
But I don't know if it's you can't call the police,
but you definitely can't get involved while they're still in
you gotta let them go. It's this insanity on every
level and not worthy to be in any American city.

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So when I think about polaces like Chicago to defund
policeman movement, it's the mentality that even elevates criminals, the
fact that they know that the police um either won't
come or if they call, they're called, they won't be
They won't even engage the criminal. In some cases, there's
a law on the books in Chicago, a recent one

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which was a part of their police reform, where they
can't even they can't even chase criminals now, and criminals
can make anonymous complaints about police officers and they can
lose everything with no evidence at all, no facts. They
can make anonymous complaints to you know, police brutality, et cetera,
and they'll lose their jobs with no uh, with with
no evidence. And that's where we are in this country.

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And it's a terrible time. So it really is, and
that's what we have going on here also in Baltimore.
Absolutely absolutely that we need to get to a commercial break,
But I hope you all enjoying the conversation. I'm certainly
glad to have Kim co host this with me, and
I'm really glad that we're able to really talk about

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these issues and not that she has this this pack
red renaissance. Kim is endorsing and putting candidates in place
who will fund the police, who will be supportive of
criminal justice reform and second chances, but also understand that
those who are repeat offenders, you're losing your second chances

(23:55):
the more you do this, so you're gonna have to
be tough and face the full penalty of whatever you did.
So I appreciate the conversation. We need the policy here
for a quick break, but when we come back, Kim
and I will dig into the problems with education in Baltimore,
in Chicago, back in the moment. So it's no secret
that inner cities have notoriously bad education systems with failing

(24:18):
public schools. You can look no further than Baltimore to
see just how devastating an impact these schools have on
the community. So what I did is I went and
I got some exclusive audio to talk to someone in
Baltimore City basically dealing with the poor education system tasical. Listen,
I feel like there's no hope for our kids. I mean,

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I have a family, I have nephews that's in high
school right now, and a Baltimore public high school students
earn a below one point g p A. How is that?
How is that helping our kids? How can our kids
go forward? And there's no hope, there's no hope for

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our kids, and we need to do something. That is
just so depressing to hear from a resident of Baltimore.
I mean, what do you think when you hear such hopelessness?
You know, it's it's I think it's been a reality
for people in the black community for decades. I think

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that's one of the reasons why there's been so many
people who champion charter schools. There's a charter school in Chicago.
It's called Urban Prep, and it Urban Prep. This is
mostly black, but they have like Latino students too, and
that I know they had some white students that came
in at a particular time. But I went to the
school to check it out for myself. Because their biggest

(25:44):
thing or play is and what they're celebrated for is
they get a hundred graduation. They have a hundred percent
graduation rate. So those who come into the school, they
stick with them. They do tutor sessions, they give individual learning,
and they ensure that these students graduate. Now, these aren't

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folks that they're just passing along. Because you hear that,
you're like, oh, so they must be just saying, okay,
participation trophy, you get to go to you get to
graduated high school and get your diploma. Now they're really
really working with the students to ensure their individual success.
And I think charter schools are supreme model for good
education and individual learning. Was because some of these charter

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schools end up being trade schools and we've got some
brilliant young people across the country, of course, but there's
so much I think smarts in the hood, if you will.
I think there's a lot of kids who may not
be proficient, but they're very smart people and could be so.
In Chicago, UH, Chicago public schools of elementary schools tested

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at or above the proficiency level for reading and tested
or above that level from math. Also, middle school students
tested at or above the proficiency level for reading and
tested at or above that level for math. Eighteen percent
for high school students test to add above that proficient

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level for reading, test to edder above that proficient level
from math. Those are horrible numbers. I mean, I if
I was married Chicago, I would be embarrassed that I
got all these students in in my in my city
who aren't even testing well at the proficiency level. This

(27:30):
is an embarrassment in every way. This is exactly why
the h we gotta break the backs of these teachers
unions who are secured UH from being fired in many cases,
and they're awful teachers. We got some great teachers out
there to go out there way. They spend their own money,
they go by their own supplies, they do. They tutor

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kids after school with no additional pay. We got some
who really care about young minds, but we also got
a lot who don't care, and they just want to
get a check. And this is beyond unfortunate that has
been allowed to continue. But we know why it's been
allowed to continue. Eat your unions give to democratic politicians.
Democratic politicians mostly run major urban centers, and those folks

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allow for these failures to continue, thereby creating another generation
of individuals who will never live up to their fullest potential.
And that's what's really upsetting for me. Yeah, and it's upsetting.
And we have similar numbers here in Baltimore. A lot
of people don't know this, but in Baltimore City, nine

(28:36):
out of ten Black boys and not read at grade level.
Nine out of ten. Yeah, Sean Handy talks about it
a lot, but people don't really mention it. But not
out of ten black boys can't read at grade level.
That's an insane number. I know. That's I don't like
to I would think that that would be almost impossible.
Nine out of ten, you would think so, But you

(28:58):
know what's so crazy too, And I don't know how
it is in Chicago. But here in Baltimore City. You know,
most school boards, you elect your school board members. Right
in Baltimore, the mayor actually appoints the school board members.
And so of course it's our our Democrat mayor who
appoints basically their friends that continue on with the same
agenda that they want to push and help them get

(29:21):
the vendor contractors for their other friends. And so it's
this vicious cycle, and it's it's almost like the parents
have no way of controlling what's going on. And so
you know, when I ran for office, I ran on
school choice, and it was interesting because there were a
lot of parents that were for it, um, but you know,
I don't think they felt like it was possible. And

(29:43):
I could see how you could feel that way, uh,
just seeing how bad the school system has been, you know,
their entire lives. Um. But what's your personal experience with
the school system in Chicago. I mean I grew up
there and went to elementary school, high school there. Uh,

(30:03):
I gotta tell you, just like I said, when I
was growing up, there was some I thought there were
some teachers that they cared, but you see a lot
that just simply there for a paycheck. I remember when
I was I had to be in what third grade? Yeah,
I think I was in third grade. I was a
good low elementary school. Was that third grade or fourth?
Maybe it was fourth, I don't know, maybe it was
fourth or fifth whatever, But I never forget this day.

(30:26):
I was in a classroom in this particular teacher. He
didn't he he was telling me that, you know, kind
of settle down, stop talking, or whatever the case is.
And I was never the kind of kid that would
talk back to the teachers because I grew up in
the house where we were told you have to respect adults,
no matter who they are, so you know, and then

(30:46):
you have the respect for your teachers. Anyway, they teach
you every day and you get sent to the principal
office some kind of punishments, dispension. So I didn't want
any of that. And I think I may have been
suspended in school maybe one time in my life, maybe,
I think. But this teacher who was so offended for
whatever reason, decided to take come to me, pick me

(31:10):
up by my shirt. I'm a little kid, and throw
me on the desk, and I'm like, you know, I'm
a kid. I can and I'm not gonna try to
fight a teacher. This guy was in his he was
in his twenties and I was a kid. But you teend,
you tend to see those kind of things happen. And
he literally he had graduated college not that long ago
before he had started teaching, maybe like a year or

(31:30):
two before. And I'm like, dude, why are you even
here as a teacher like you commend violence against students
and a young a very young one at that isn't
it would be different if you're in high school and
you're a senior and one of the kids trying to
get tough with you or something like that. I can
understand it going there, but not for somebody who's like
ten years old. So those kind of things do happen,

(31:54):
and it is super unfortunate. But that's where we've been
for many, many years. So when you talk about the
folks in Balti More who don't believe the school choice
can happen, it's because the politicians there have have chosen
that route. So there are a lot more hopeless in
places like Baltimore in Chicago that they're going to get
a good quality education because they know the teachers unions

(32:17):
have everything on lock. And the bad teachers no matter
just about whatever they do, they stay in their jobs
because the union is protecting them. And that that's discouraging
for parents, I think, all across the country to know
that and to know what is being taught in these
schools these days. No, I totally agree. I can't believe
he was doing that to you at elementary level. That's

(32:38):
why that was well. And I wish I remember his name.
I got a lawsuit coming. I don't remember. He probably
is no longer a teacher there. He may have lasted
for a couple of years. Maybe I don't know, or yeah,
yeah I just got fired. I don't know, and maybe,
but I doubt he got fired, so he's Uh. It's

(32:59):
terrible times. But this happens a lot across the urban
centers and sometimes kids do take it there. But as
an adult, you should know a kid as a kid.
So leave it alone and let the let the police
deal with it is what they should be doing. Yeah, No,
for real, And I just wanted to read a quote
real quick. The late Walter Williams of George Mason University

(33:21):
once wrote the following in two thousands sixteen in thirteen
of Baltimore thirty nine high schools that a single student
scored proficient on the state's and mathematics exam. Citywide, only
fifteen percent of Baltimore students past the state's English test.
And here's the critical part. Money is not the problem
of the nation's one largest school system. Baltimore ranks third,

(33:46):
and spending per pupil, that's third, so we're right behind.
I think it goes New York City, Boston, Baltimore, and um,
you know, it's just wild to me that we get
so much money. But how can the education se be
feeling so much if it received so much funding, Like,
how does that even make any sense? Yeah, I think

(34:06):
I think you clearly laid it out for us, Kim
when you talked about especially you being kind of inner
circle in terms of being a political understanding the Baltimore politics.
I think a lot of Republicans don't understand Baltimore's politics.
And as part of the reason why when you ran,
people trying to write you off as like a gimmick

(34:28):
and oh yeah, she did a couple of videos that
Trump posted. Now she's gonna try to run for Baltimore
and nobody's gonna vote for you. But then you created
a movement right now, but I think you you you
set it up for us perfectly in terms of how
the corruption takes place. Follow the money. Follow the money
every time. Uh, these folks get into office and then

(34:49):
they give their friends these kickbacks, these deals, and as
you said, they do it for the vendor privileges, give
million dollar contracts, and a lot of times these are
their their donors. So yeah, where's the money. Where's the
money going in the pockets of the vendors and the
donors and the donors who donate to get these folks
in office and they get these contracts. Meanwhile, Uh, the

(35:11):
unions are still winning big time. Meanwhile, the mayor can
say that they care, but you don't see the substance
of them caring to change things around. In places like
Chicago and Baltimore, it's more empty promises and no action
there there lifting their duties and they fell in their residence. Yeah, no, absolutely.
I mean we get close to sixteen thousand dollars per

(35:34):
student in Baltimore City. That's why we're the third highest
per people spending. And we still have schools where they
don't have heat air conditioning, and they're still dealing with
lead pipes. Uh. So there's a lot of schools, especially
on the West Side, where kids can't even drink out
of the water fountains. Um. So yeah, I mean we're
getting a ton of money, but who knows where just going.
I don't know. Yeah, it wasn't it some years ago,

(35:56):
if I recall correctly, some years ago, there was a
study or it was like a maybe like a local
TV reporter, local news station went into a school and
it was it was like in a winner and they
didn't have he'd what was that situation? And has that
been rectified? Yeah? So that was our our last mayor
she was in office, Mayor Katherine Pugh, who's you know,

(36:19):
later was indicted for pay to play. Um. But in
other words, to your point, to your point, literally demonstrate
what you just said. Okay, got it right. And so
it was wild because one of the teachers in one
of the schools posted this picture that went viral of
all the students sitting there with their winter coats on,

(36:40):
and then she took like a picture of the thermostat
showing that it was sixteen degrees in the classroom. And
so because that went viral, and you know, social media
is good, you know, in a lot of ways. Because
that went viral. Then everybody started questioning what was going on,
and um, she said, oh it must be the school
board is is not making the right decision. So instead

(37:01):
of actually changing out members of the school board, she
actually added four more seats to the school board so
she could appoint four more friends. Yeah, well, I think
Rama Manue will say the best. Never let what do
you how do you say, never let chaos go to waste?
What man Never let a good a good crisis go

(37:23):
to waste good crisis? Clearly she said, man I see
more opportunity to make money, and so yeah, and and
and and the results where she went to jail afterwards. Yeah,
she went to jail for a little bit and then
they released her thanks to the pandemic. Oh wow, yeah,

(37:46):
we got out. Speaking of COVID, let's shift the latest
with the pandemic. Right after a quick break, Welcome back
to Outline with Giano called but I'm so excited to
have my dear friend co host the show with me.
The only repeat guest ever out of almost fifty episodes,

(38:09):
Kimberly Clasic is in the house and certainly glad to
have her give her vast knowledge on the issues that
people care about that are impacting families across the country,
and really putting the Democratic Party's failure on display. A
lot of folks, uh didn't realize how badly some of

(38:31):
these cities were running and performing, and you exposed it
all in a campaign that so I'm so so happy
to be here with you. And before we went to break,
before you tossed us to break, we were talking about uh.
You mentioned the mayor and who was released, the former
mayor of Baltimore who went to jail for pay to play,
and she was released early for COVID. So you know,

(38:55):
it's it's interesting that we're now talking about COVID in
a lot of ways. I know, there was a lot
of folks who felt like, man, most of the country
is now vaccinated, we can finally give it to the
mass and go back to our lives as we used
to live them. I was happy about it. I was excited.
I'm sure a lot of the people were. And we
were told by Joe Biden and Dr Anthony Fauci, once

(39:19):
you get vaccinated, you can get rid of the mask,
go back to your life, encourage your family to get
vaccinated or I remember when they said, well, if you
hit COVID before then you're gonna have this natural immunity
to you won't be able to get it again. Or
you you it's just like that's what It's just like
being vaccinated. And then everything turned. It's like the messaging

(39:40):
at the c d C, the White House, local government
officials is all over the place, and we saw what
benefits they received. And I hate to say it like this,
but it's true. We saw what benefits that they received
in the last election by virtue of locking down the

(40:00):
entire country, ensuring there was mass mail in voting. Uh,
they did a number of things. And now we're at
a place where soon enough we're gonna be going into
another election in the fear of COVID and the new
delta variant as being dialed up tremendously. So no one

(40:22):
really knows what may happen again, or if the country
is gonna shut down again and go back into a
depression after all of what we experienced. What are your
thoughts on that, Kimberly, So for me, it's very personal,
you know, Like you know, I ran for Congress in
Maryland seventh and um, you know here in Maryland we

(40:46):
allow unsolicited mail in ballots, and this is something that
Governor Ron De Santis is trying to tackle in Florida
right now, we have supposedly a Republican governor and Governor Hogan,
but he's not doing anything about it. When you have
unsolicited mail in ballots come in, it's not like absentee ballots.
It's you know, these ballots come anywhere. Um, it could

(41:06):
be a former resident of a home and that new
resident could just fill it out and send it back
in the way they want to. And then also, unfortunately Maryland,
ballot harvesting is legal, so we had a lot of
people on my opponent's side that would go to nursing
homes and other areas and literally just collect ballots for people.
And so when you have unsolicited mail in ballots, if

(41:27):
if they wanted to help somebody that didn't receive a
ballot with another ballot, they could just basically request one
or even just pick up another one to fill it
out for them. So on election night, we thought it
was gonna be a pretty good night, but the very
next day we had a lot of mail in ballots
counted and we actually ended up with more mail in

(41:48):
ballots than we did voters in our Yeah, so so
it allows people to basically get into fraudulent activity. But
that's something that we should have been tackling in the meantime.
And so, now, like you said, we see COVID coming back,
they just continue to move the goal post. Right, And
we first heard about it, it was, oh, we gotta

(42:08):
flatten the curve. Right, it was flatten the curve for
two weeks that it was this and was that, Like
you said, the vaccine. Now they're telling us, oh, the
vaccine doesn't really work. Still got to wear a mask. Oh,
now you know, unvaccinated people, they must go and get
a vaccine. Like you know, they continue to move the
goal post because I do think now they are looking
at two they're looking at the fact that they didn't

(42:28):
do anything to secure the border. Like we talked about,
crime and violence is out of control when Democrat areas.
So it's not looking very good for them. And even
when it came to the COVID relief bill, there's a
lot of money that is still caught up in that
and didn't really make it to those in need. And
so if you look at it, the administration the Body
administration didn't accomplish a whole lot. So I guess to them,

(42:50):
why not take advantage of another election with COVID. Yeah,
I think I think that's I think that's a really
important point. And I also want to point out that
the unemployment rates in califern Fownia, in New York, which
it was at eight point five percent, in California eight
point nine percent, and uh New York remained significantly higher
in February than the national six point to average. Unemployment

(43:13):
in New York City was still at twelve point nine percent.
But yeah, the the real issue, I think for a
lot of folks is now what do they do. We
were supposed to be, not necessarily in a post COVID world.
We're supposed to be in a place where we have
the solution to the problem, which was the vaccine. Now

(43:34):
we have a different variant. They're talking about passports, uh
COVID passports, which I think it's really ridiculous. Like we
went from you can't and I know people have made
this point, but yeah, you know, we we can't us
get be identified to have somebody with an I D
to go and vote. But yeah, we're gonna get your
health record passport like it's kind of ridiculous and it's

(43:55):
stupid in that way. I don't think that it should
be anyone's business if person is vaccinated or not, unless
they want to tell them that if you are a
person that's overweight, if your person is obese, if your
person would pre existing conditions, then perhaps you should be
one that wears a mask. Definitely get vaccinated, because those
are a big bulk of the people who died from

(44:18):
COVID last year and this year. Those who were have
the preexisting conditions or overweight or obese, and with where
we are now, it appears to be a lot of
government overreach and dealing with what the issue truly is.
It's you shouldn't require citizens to make a medical decision

(44:38):
for themselves and unless also keep in mind some people
have reportedly died after they receive their shots, and I'm
not trying to make people hesitant from getting the shot.
I'm not. I'm not trying to be the boogeyman on
that issue, but there are people who are concerned about
their health because this pick. These shots have emergency authorization,

(45:01):
but they've not been FDA approved, So some people want
to ensure that the FDA has fully approved it. Not
only that for those who already have had COVID, they're
following the science. And I saw a friend of mine
just yesterday he said, listen, I don't I don't need
to go get vaccinated. I had COVID. I'm gonna follow
the science. Which the Democratic Party used to be the
Party of science. I'm guessing that was just a facade

(45:24):
at this point because they're not following the advice that
was then put out and a number of times from
a number of doctors, just like when Trump said, hey, um,
if you get the hydra coded Quinn, this is called it.
It's a Z pack. Again, I can't think of how
to pronounce him anyway, when he said, hey, you take
this and and and and the survival rate is better,

(45:47):
and all the reporters, the media and even a number
of doctors came out against that, and he turned out
to be right. The survival rate I think increased or
something like that after people would have that that particular medicine.
And just imagine how many people would have been saved.
Head the media not ridiculed President Trump for saying something

(46:10):
that ended up being true. We could have saved a
lot of lots, So people are really following the science anymore,
and it's more political in a lot of cases than
it is science based. And that's what's really troubling now.
A live decisions are being dictated based on the politics
of a governor or a mayor, and that's insane, No,
it is, and it's so crazy about it. I'm one

(46:31):
of those people where I'm listening to my doctor, so
I see an asthma and allergy specialist once a month
just because I always have dealt with asthma really bad,
and apparently with the vaccine, they have been seeing respiratory issues.
So I was told to wait and to kind of
see what happens with other people dealing with the same

(46:53):
issues that I have. So I personally have not been
vaccinated UM. I also had COVID right when it we
really started talking about it. That was in what was it,
March when I had UM and so yeah, we were
told that we wouldn't have the antibodies. I don't know
if they said forever obviously, but no, I know the

(47:13):
risk as somebody that's not vaccinated, and I personally choose
to take the risk instead of choosing to take the vaccine,
not knowing if it's going to trigger a n asthma
attack and have a bad effect. So I'm gonna listen
to my doctor before I listened to Joe Biden to

(47:35):
like a smart decision. Listening to Joe Biden these days
it's not worth while. And half the time he doesn't
even know he's president, so we it's tough to try
to listen to Joe Biden no much of anything, and
it's it seems as the other media has been protecting
him on all his his uh his his misspeaking to
put it mildly, because some of his laws is not

(47:58):
a miss misspoke situation. Uh. And I'm I'm sure with
all the new information coming in about about the delta variant,
are you more concerned than you were about COVID previously
because they said this is a stronger variation of the
original strain of COVID. Are you concerned? I mean, I
definitely think about it. You know, I travel with my

(48:19):
pack every week, and so I meet a lot of
new people all the time. But that's right, because you
do events multiple times a week. Yeah, so I but
I also get tested often too, so because you have
to travel correct, and you know, the last thing I
want is to like give any kind of variant to
somebody else, so exactly, and you know, I have a

(48:41):
five year old daughter as well, so we got to
just keep you know, track of it. But you know,
that's how I choose to live my life. And I'm
fine with that. And hopefully if I get it proved
to go and get the vaccine, I will. But for
right now, think about it with Joe Biden in his
town hall, what was that two weeks ago he was
telling people on stage, Look, if you get vaccinated, you

(49:03):
can live life normally. And literally within days, he completely
changed his chune about it. Yeah, and that's we don't
need that kind of leadership, especially when there's a public
health emergency. And let's also keep in mind Joe Biden
ran on the platform that Donald Trump mishandled COVID, and
I'm gonna being honest, there was some I don't think

(49:25):
he he took it seriously in the way, but when
he came at the hospital, I just thought he did
too much. Like that should have been his point where
he's like, you know what, there is a serious disease. Folks,
wear your masks etcetera, etcetera. And I gave the Democrats
and the media more uh more soundbites for them to
play over and over and say that he didn't take

(49:46):
it seriously. So I thought when he came out at
President Trump came at the hospital, when he did the
one on the balcony of the White House with all
the music and the sound, that was like, bro, you're
doing don my old question doing the most. Yeah, you see,
he could not breathe up there right for air. I

(50:06):
was really nervous because of course I think asthma immediately. Um.
But yeah, no, I think he probably could have done
a little bit more to say, look, you know what,
I got vaccinated and and it is serious and something
that we should all just stop politicizing. But yeah, I
look at it as President Trump, no matter what he
says or does, he's going to get bashed. So yeah,

(50:29):
that's that's been the case. But he's also given some
reasons to bash him too. I think that would be
one of them. And as much as I would support
the policies in which he passed on the number of occasions,
I'm still willing to call him out wherever necessary, because
that was just not that was awful. That was awful.
But but that's here nor there. What do you make

(50:52):
of people with like New York Mirror Bill de Blasio
essentially saying unvaccinated people won't have access to the same
races and freedoms is vaccinated people? What what do you
make of that? Um? I feel like that's the new form.
It's like modern day segregation, right, I mean, it's that's wild.
I saw the mayor in Boston, black woman Democrat, she said,

(51:14):
how is this any different than asking slaves for their papers? Right?
I mean it's to me, it's it's segregation. It's like, okay,
here the unvaccinated, here the vaccinated. They already seem to
want to shame the unvaccinated. I think it's a personal choice,
and I don't think we should be taking it down
this road. But Mayor built a Blasio. I mean, I've

(51:35):
never shocked at the things that he says and does. Yeah,
it's it's it's gotten to the point where we just
already know he's he lost his way a long time ago.
I don't think he ever really had it. But you know,
don't get me wrong, there's some Democrats out there where
I'm like, man, this is a good part. I've had
Democrats on the show where I'm like, Okay, these are
good people. These are really cool people, elected officials and everything.

(51:58):
They're like good hearts. They want to do the right thing.
We may disagree on politics or particular policy, but they're good,
good people, and you know, they're well intentioned. And I
don't know how well intentioned build the Blasio is I
I don't necessarily see see that. You don't force people
to make medical decisions. I just I'm just really against that.
In Democrats are supposed to be the party of choice,

(52:21):
and they're giving us no choice. You know. I respect
the person's desire, which is not to get vaccinated, just
like I respect somebody who says I want to be vaccinated.
I've not been vaccinated. I've had COVID before, So I'm okay,
I'm comfortable with not being vaccinated. I'm not comfortable with
being shamed for not being vaccinated. And leaders like you

(52:42):
said they gotta stop throw the politics away, just give
us the science and let us go on from there.
You know, it's a serious health issue, got it? Uh
Wuhan lab likely came from the Uhan lab, the one
in which the the CCP certainly UH probably unlikely head
of hand in just based on the reporting that we've

(53:04):
seen have has come out, and certainly it was. If
this is the case, if the reporting gets correct and accurate,
that the this came from the Juan lap UH, then
China certainly was looking to decimate the U. S economy
and whoever else, And as a result of COVID and
the lockdowns, their economy will overtake or at least is

(53:27):
UH scheduled or predicted to overtake the U. S economy
UH in this decade. So with these different variants, I
wonder you know where could this have come from? But
democratic politicians are helping to stop the progress of our
country economically, given China UH front row seat, or rather

(53:47):
in the driver's seat if you will, to win over
us economically, which brings me to another statement here. When
the data is clear, the red states that opened up
from the lockdowns quicker did better economically, as Political reported
in late June, of the fifteen states that have returned
to pre pandemic levels of economic activity to wherever I

(54:10):
led by Republican governors of the ten states reporting the
lowest level of economics activities since January seven. I run
by democratic governors. Economics, folks, it's it's you have to
be able to take care of your family. We cannot
live on the government. I know there's a lot of
folks who received a bunch of unemployment. They may have
gotten some p PP money. And somebody that I know

(54:34):
I saw in l A recently said, man, that was
the most money that I ever made on that unemployment.
I wish they'll bring it back. No, folks, we gotta
get back to self reliance, and we have politicians who
are creating economic situation that is destructive to families. What
do you think about what's going on with them shutting

(54:56):
down or have shut down and possibly about to shut
down local governments or rather cities and states. Again, what
are you what's your your take on, Nick Camp? I mean,
it's a scary thought. Everything the government has ever touched
or run. I believe it's just been a disaster. That
can point too many times in history where that's happened.
I think the biggest one is in nineve where it

(55:18):
really affected the black community, and in my opinion, is
when basically the government asked the black woman to marry
the government rather than the father of a child. Right,
we saw basically the welfare state come into play and
that has devastated our communities since then. And then you
compound that with crime bill. It's just everything the government
touches to me just ends up being more of an issue.

(55:41):
And then they try to say, oh, we need more
money to fix this issue, and that's what they run on.
It's the same old cycle and it never benefits. I
don't think we the people. I mean right here in Maryland,
we have a lot of people that are still on
unemployment because, like your friends said, they're making more money
sitting home, and so we have some busy This is
especially the rest Maybe I misspoke. Someone I know we

(56:06):
have is out of acquaintance people be like them your
Ganna Frians. No, we have some restaurants here in Maryland
where they are having a hard time getting people to
come back to work because they are making more money
on unemployment. Luckily, Governor Hogan is saying by September one, uh,

(56:27):
they're no longer going to be given, you know, so
much in unemployment to make people come back to work.
He ended the eviction moratorium daying, look, landlords need to
pay their mortgage and so you got to pay your rent.
And that's how it should have been from the get go.
It should have never gotten to this point. Of course,
I think I think like a Republican in that sense. Um,

(56:47):
But you know, for me, it's just a no win.
And we look at states like Florida with Governor Rod
de Santis, and they were able to continue moving those
people down there seem to be doing just fine with
and things are, you know, as fine as economically. We
look at the delta variant now and people are saying, oh,
it's it's more in Florida, Texas, and I believe Louisiana.

(57:09):
But I have to say with that, we know it
came in from out of this country. I think they
pinpointed to India. But we have our southern border wide
open right now. When I look at that, I'm like, well,
is this really serious. If it's really serious, why do
we have our southern border wide open? If it's really serious,
why didn't we do anything in the meantime to prepare

(57:30):
us for possibly the variant and another pandemic. I ran
on basically bringing the billion dollar medical equipment industry back
to the States, particularly through the Baltimore City port, but
we did not do anything to beef up our equipment
industry as far as medicine here during this entire time
that we're trying to rebuild from the pandemic. And then

(57:50):
you see President Joe Biden put out a tweet saying, oh,
We've got the most jobs back on the market this
past month, and it's like, basically he just he's taken
it for jobs that are being replenished that we're taking
away in the beginning right there, right, they're not new jobs,
they're not new careers. So it's it's a disaster to me.
But maybe that's just my take. No, I think that's

(58:12):
the take up a lot of other people. Very cogent point. Now,
I want to shift now from the issues of the
day to what you're up to, Kim, and what you
got planning for the future. But first let's take a
quick break. Welcome back to Ally with Giano Caldwell. I
got Kimberly Clasic co hosting the show with me, first
time ever doing this. It's been quite fun, certainly auspicious commentary.

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This is one of the shows that I think I'll
forever remember because I enjoy doing co hosting. I really do.
I'm actually co hosting on a Fox News channel here
next week, but I really appreciate having just the various
viewpoints and being able to kind of toss things back
and forth with somebody. So thank you for doing it, Kim.

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But I want to before I let you go, ask
the question that everyone wants to know from you, which
is will you be running for Congress again? Well, first
of all, thank you so much for having me today.
This has actually been a lot of fun being able
to just talk candidly. But yeah, we plan on running again.
We left a million dollars in the treasury to to

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do so. We were so fortunate to have support from
all across this country, from amazing people, and then to
have the support from the Trump family. We raised over
eight point four million dollars in our race, so we're
allowed to We're able to keep some money in the
bank to to continue. It's gonna take time. Baltimore City,
like Chicago, it's it's tough when you've been under Democrat

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one party rule for fifty some years. It's gonna take
time for people to change their minds and say, wow,
you know, maybe I should vote differently. But for us
in Baltimore City in that part of the district, usually
a Republican gets votes. We were able to get we're
teen thousand votes, and we did that in a in
a pretty short amount of time because our our viral

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ad didn't go viral until mid August and so we
had until November three to really just take it home.
So I think you know now that we still have time,
we're still in the community. You have a team out
there right now registering voters. There are actually seventy four
thousand people in Baltimore City that are not registered to
vote at all, and so that's a big chunk, and

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it's a big number where I know there's a lot
of people saying, look, things aren't going the way we
saw things were gonna be going at this point in time. One,
we're all, you know, we're going backwards in a way.
And so the more we stay out there and stay
relevant and making sure people know they were there for
the community. We took a bunch of kids from West
Baltimore and sent them down to West Virginia to summer

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camp this year, and that was a lot of fun
and you know, just give them something else to do
and great exposure for them. Hopefully they'll go back each year.
I've been donating and helping out at many churches in
the area and is doing the things that anybody would
do that's able to lend a helping hands. So we're
definitely gonna run again. We're looking to run in twenty two,

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but if it ends up being four where we make
the biggest ground game, then we'll just take our time
and do what needs to be done so that we
can win. But at the end of the day, I'm
never giving up on Baltimore. You know, I hear all
the rumors, Oh, Kim's gonna go to Florida. She probably
is gonna go run in a in a district where
it's easier to run, and It's like, no, that's not
why I'm here, That's not why I got into this.

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This is about changing Baltimore. There are people that have hope, dreams,
aspirations to do more, and I want to make sure
that they have the opportunity to get to the American
dream just like everyone else. And so we're gonna continue
to run. I'll probably wait a little bit to announce,
probably towards February next year, because I am working on

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my pack and you know the FBC rules, you can't
do a pack and be an announced Kimia at the
same time, so we'll we'll take our time on that. Well,
thank you for giving us that exclusive of Kimberly Classic
is running again. And you know one thing that I appreciate,
I think you have it. I mean obviously the star power,
but I think you actually care and that I think

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that resonates with people more. You actually care. And I've
known you for years and I know that you care
because we've been talking about this stuff for years before
you even really hit the scene in the in the media.
So thank you so much for all that you do.
And the GOP should really be taking note because instead
of trying to go to an area to win a

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race one time, especially when you're talking about urban centers,
you gotta be in the community. You gotta stay there.
You don't just win the race from one election. Most times,
when you're trying to win urban seat, you gotta let
the people get to know you. They gotta have conversations
with you, feel comfortable with you, and whatever political boogeyman
the Democrats will use. People look at it as bs

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and said, you know what, I know her. She's a
good person. I don't believe that I want to give
up my support. I met her, I believe in her,
so continue doing that. And I hope you're still pushing
the party to get involved in a lot of these races,
but certainly you're you're using your pack to create the
wave versus chasing it with the r n C. So, Kimberly,

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where can people find you? So? On Twitter, I'm at
kim k Baltimore, and on Instagram and Facebook it's Kimberly Clasick.
I'm on LinkedIn, but I mean that's not fun. Let's
be honest. So just kidding now it's Kimberly Clasic there too. Okay,
We'll be sure to follow you on all social media.
I want to thank you again for co hosting the

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show with me and I look forward to what you
have coming up and certainly doing more this with you.
Thank you, thanks for having me, and keep up all
the good work you're doing too. It's definitely appreciated. Thank you,
miss Kimberly Classic. I appreciate your time and talk to
you very soon. I want to thank my dear friend

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Kimberly Clasic again for co hosting with me this week.
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