July 2, 2024 • 54 mins
I didn't realize how much I needed this conversation until I sat down with these gorgeous girls. Danielle & Thyri Frazier give insight on their beautiful relationship together and how they broke generational trauma. They also talk about discovering new things about each other, establishing boundaries, and how they share their relationship on social media to inspire others to heal and work on their relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to the Overcovered podcast. I am your host,
Jenna Colopis. Thank you guys so much for clicking and
choosing to watch this episode today. I'm very excited and
also very honored and have the pleasure of meeting two beautiful,
gorgeous mother daughter duo girls at women, let's say women,
because they're not girls, they are women. We have Theory, Hey,
(00:27):
and I have Danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is our first time meeting each other. We're gonna
get to know them together. I kind of see who
they are, what they do they do? They do do
mother daughter content. They are an amazing duo, and I
would love to go deep dive into your guys'.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Relationship on and off camera.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How you guys started social media, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We're gonna have like a cool little chit chat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm ready. Yeah, I'm so excited to be here. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm never like you know, not that I'm never, but
I rarely give mother daughter duos.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I love to see like the different dynamics and
opinions and like.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You, first of all, I hope everybody in the comments
is going to agree that they look like sisters. I
was when I came downstairs because they were they're here
in my house, right. I saw them like, there's no
way that's a mom and daughter, Like you look exactly alike. Well,
you know, I think that you did a great job.
She's gorgeous and you're also very gorgeous as well. Okay,
(01:27):
so let's get let's get into it. You guys obviously
have a tremendous following.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What are the numbers at right now?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Let's say so TikTok for my main account is nine million,
Hers is one point two million, our Instagram's mine is
at one point one hers is at almost two fifty k.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Congrats on YouTube is.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That one million one point one and Facebook is also
at one point one million.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That for you guys, well deserved success.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How did it all start?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, it just started with me being a grumpy gil
So before social media became this big prominent thing in
everybody's life, we all spoke on a couch and we
all hung out a lot. Like every day she would
come home from school, she'd be like, oh, this is
what happened. You come home from work and be like, yo,
(02:24):
let me tell you about this. These two chicken heads
started leaving me out and talking and giggling over this phone,
and I was like, dude, what are you guys laughing at?
Like it's TikTok? I was like, what the is a TikTok?
So they start showing me and I was like, this
is not funny. This is not funny. So I decided
during the pandemic that I was going to try it,
(02:46):
and it didn't. It didn't hit. I was just trying
to do trends and one day we did a we interacted.
We did a.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Second conversation because I was like, Mom, I think my
ex boyfriends cheating on me, and she was like, you
want to pull up? Just being funny, Like we were
just like being so funny. She was like, that would
be so funny if we just record that really quickly.
So I was like, So I walked in the room.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I was like, hey, Mom, like, I think my ex
boyfriends cheating on me, Like we need to pull up.
She was like, all right, let's go, let's go. I swear.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
We posted it and it got like six million views,
like yeah, first time I ever posted it relatable, So
very like, what if.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We just start recording our reactions from like ten years ago,
five years ago, just recreate all these interactions and.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It blew up so very organic, very it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Was very organic.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So you guys would.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Say, like the bond on off camera is the same.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We do keep a little bit private due to I
don't think that the internet is really ready for how
raw it can get.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But you're too honest by as Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
There's a few times. There's a few times we have
like put something out and it's really raw and they're like,
this is too much m h point. Taking the B word.
Everybody's like, I can't believe that, and I'm like, well,
it's our conversation. It's like how we communicate with one another.
If I say bitch, she knows that it's not the way. Yeah,
(04:21):
it's not you know what, you stupid. I would never
talk to her like that. There's a difference from speaking
to her and talking to her at her talk.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And I've seen like videos word it's meant like they've
she's called you right, yeah, does it?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I feel like people.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Take that out of context as well. They do, and like,
so how's the reaction towards that, like.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
To the commentor yes, I'm just like, look if you
if it's look life is not all fit all, be all.
If it don't fit for you, don't do it. Don't
call your mom the B word, and don't allow your
children to call you to be word. We went through
a life span of growing and communication and things like that,
(05:07):
so where I would never allowed her at thirteen, don't. Yeah,
we're not we're not there yet, but you're twenty one
years old and you're my friend. At this point it's
more so friend than mother. Before it was mother than friends.
So this is my girl, this is my bitch, is
my girl.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I love the gone though, but has it always been.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like that between the closeness? Yes, yes, not this close.
I think it takes time to build a relationship to
get to this point.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
To understand each other. You guys had some rocky.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And especially from a kid's point of view, it's kind
of hard to trust your parents in certain aspects. Like
even though she was like, I promise you're not gonna
get in trouble, I'm still like mm hmm, I think, yeah,
I don't know if I should tell you because I
want to get stroking. Yeah, But it's always that first conversation,
like when I told her that lost my virginity for
the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Was this scary?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
She found out? She found a bad way.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I already didn't knew she did, she already.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Know, she alreadynew Chary is.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I told the story she came home one day
and she was just walking different.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, it wasn't no, it wasn't No, she knows.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
They found out through my phone being connected to the
computer when there was pictures.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You went through it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
No, my oh okay, my other mother went and she's
seen the pictures of like me and my ex boyfriend
and like yeah, so you know. So after that conversation,
I swear everything changed, like I felt after Okay. I
talked to her and I was like, I'm really sorry.
She was like, I'm not mad at you for doing it.
I'm mad you for not talking to me about it
because I wanted to be able to educate you on
(06:44):
the situation and like precautions and what you should and
should not do. After that, I was like, hold on, girl,
like you're not mad at me for you know, doing
my thing, Like you're not mad at me, And she's like, no,
I'm upset because you didn't talk to me about a prior.
So after that it opened my eyes a lot, like, Okay,
I can trust her. She's not gonna be mad at
me for doing it. I just need to talk to
her prior for before I make the decision. So I
(07:06):
feel like that definitely opened up our dynamic. Dynamic, okay,
one hundred percent, way more.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I agree. I think you did realize that you could
trust me at that point when Yeah, after.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That, which I can like relate a little bit because
of my sister.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I always mentioned this, like I've learned.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
To keep that dynamic, like that boundary even.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
As I get older and I feel like it changes.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's like I want to keep limitations, like obviously she's
your friend.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But do you tell her everything? Like absolutely everything?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Everything? Really everything she knows?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, that's good, No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I don't even want to know what the phone
call I got last weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
What do you get scared?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Though?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
As a mom, like like trying to see that balance
to like I know she's telling you like this is
a friend and then I happy one.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So we talk about that a lot, and I'm like, hey,
can I be your mom right now?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And she's like, okay, I guess I don't like it.
I'm like, don't friend form?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, She'll asked me to tell her in front for
him because I think she respects that more than me.
I feel like Momy is very coddling.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's like, you know, I feel like I don't like that,
she don't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I need her to be like you need to do this.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I need that. I need like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Recently, I just had to pull her, pull her up.
I had to pull rank, which I don't like to
do because she is a twenty one year old young woman.
But sometimes I when it comes to me having to
pull rank and like, hey, I'm s so your mom,
it's kind of uncomfy for me in a in a
way because I don't want her to think that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Come from bad place.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, it's coming from a negative place. I don't know why.
I don't know why because I feel like our conversations
with friend for him is more like understand understanding. She's
more receptive of it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, okay, you guys, we're gonna go on break and
we will be right back.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Welcome back, you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You also you mentioned you have like another mom, right, yeah,
I'm assuming your partner, yes, yes, Can I dive deep
into that as well? Because I'm I've always been interested,
and I've never met the correct people. Yeah, Like you're
so open about your sexuality and obviously you too, right,
So it's kind of like, how what is that balance
(09:28):
or how is that like with Tina?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, well I don't yeah, so my way.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, so she's different.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
She's Tina.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So the pause I just gave you is just she's
a force to be reckoned with. She does not take
theory very lately. She's very protective. She's never her friends.
She's always mama.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
She's the mom.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
She is very anybody says or does anything to theory
to her. Look, I have goosebumps because my.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Wife is like, she'll kill, She'll kill.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's my baby girl. She does not play about this one.
Uh So when it comes to her being open and
being who she is, she's all four, one hundred percent.
But she's not going to be that friend for him.
She's always going to be the mother forum, she's always
going to be educating, she's always going to be guy.
There's a big balance in our dynamic us three, which
(10:25):
is why it works so well. And I'm grateful. I'm
so grateful. I'm so grateful for you, Tina. She's such
an amazing woman and theory would not be who she
is without that woman either. Yeah, because I am. I'm like,
you know what, I raise you kick it. Yeah, But
she's like.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The She's like that, Yeah, you can. You can go
do this, you can go do that, you can do that.
I'm like, okay, Tina, She's like no, no, no, no,
you could rein this. You can do this, you could
do that, Like, no, you cannot do that. Like She's
very like tough love is Tina, but.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
She also gives you reasons why.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, but I would never I don't. I would never
hear for it because it's always come from a good
place and I appreciate it so much because you're tough love,
but you're not tough love. You're very like education, educational light.
She's gonna like, I'm gonna let you learn from your
own mistakes. I'm gonna tell you, but if you do it,
you do it.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's fine. Tina's like, hena, No, you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Kind of get like best of both both.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Of it, and I love it. I love it. It
works so well.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
In some areas, like Tina, I'm so tired of her mom.
I'm so tired, Tina, Like it works sometimes Mimosa.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I've also been like nosy in the comments about
like obviously like the sexuality thing. And then I don't
want to say blaming you because or whatever, but you
know what I mean, like they've made comments like that,
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh gosh, it's I mean, it doesn't make me feel
any type of way, just because I know the truth
and sexuality is not just something that you force upon somebody.
It's definitely you know who who you are. But theory
came out before I did, like between us two, so
(12:07):
she already we already knew that she was interested in girls.
I grew up, I was already interested in girls. I
never told her that. And you know, it wasn't me
influencing her or her influencing me into thought. Yeah, she
liked girls way before I even came out to her.
(12:28):
Uh So when she did come out, I just was like, hey, girl, Hey.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
She wasn't shocked. She was not shocked. I was like, girl,
I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I was like, would have been different if maybe she
wasn't or like you know what I mean, like if
you were just like maybe against it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Let's say, if I was against it, I can't put
myself in that mental state because I love individuality. I
think that's how the world works. If I was against
let me see, if I was against something, what would
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Or did you ever have a moment of like like,
I don't know, maybe you didn't want this for her?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, So she's like, yeah, yeah, tell me.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, with my life choices, with the person that
I was with, why you brought.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Me on the spot with this life choice. It was
very hard to sit back and watch you do something
that I just did not like. So I can utilize
that one as.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But that was the mom and you probably too, right.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, because you can't protect your kid from their own heart,
and you can't protect them from their own will, their
own free will, their own decision making, and a part
of being a parent is allowing them to make those
mistakes and figuring that part of themselves out on their
own so they can have the tools in the future. Unfortunately,
(14:01):
I have to allow her to make that mistake, not
even a mistake, that life choice. I wouldn't say it
was a mistake.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But without ever throwing it in her face.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
With that, no, I wouldn't have never a freaking never
because I'm not perfect. I've done it multiple times. I
don't even know if I even answered that question, but sorry,
did I answer that question?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, it wasn't necessarily questions, more like so like topic,
like because I'm interested, like you know, at least for
being Latina and Mexican households, it's sadly forbidden like being
gay or liking another sex in general. And then on
top of because I saw the comments obviously as well,
like you're in a relationship, you have a wife, and
(14:42):
also I love it supported whatever, but as someone from
like Latino culture, it's like really forbidden, you know. And
I would say also like it affects more mental health,
and I love that you guys talk about that, and
you're so big on your guys' relationship, bend your bond,
and it's so sad to say that it's kind of
(15:04):
taboo to talk about your feelings or that relationship as well. Yeah,
is there anything that happened in your life as well,
like maybe it was so important to make sure you
have a good relationship.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
With your daughter.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, so I didn't grow up in the best situation
situation with my upbring end with my dad being absolutely
absent and my mother raising three biracial children in a
predominantly white neighborhood, and you know, there was a lot
and she was given hardly any tools to raise three
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biracial children, and she was given no tools to be
able to communicate or the mental capacity to allow her
children to express themselves. So I don't take it out
on my mom. I don't dislike her or hate her.
We have a great relationship. We're building.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It stood where she was coming because.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I knew she didn't get the tools. Yeah, but the
way does she made me feel as a child that
needed to express themself and needed to be heard and
felt invalidated. I knew I did not want my baby
to feel that way. There was no way I was
bringing her up and allowing her to sit in that
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room and think about the things that I thought about.
I never want her to ever go through the things
that I had to ever go through. And that's why
I raised my daughter the way that I did. Open discussion.
Anything that you want to talk to me about, I'm here.
I don't care if I don't like it. She has
told me things that I wish she didn't have to
tell me. But I appreciate it and I respect her
(16:39):
for it, and I also respect myself to allowing her
to have that space. But seeing how my siblings are today,
and I'm just like, I wish you could love yourself
enough to be able to move forward from our past.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Because trauma and stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, my siblings really hold on to that the way
that we were raised. And I'm like, yeah, just move forward.
And I know it's not that easy, but when you
love something, you want to pour love into it, You're
going to find a reason to move forward or try
to move forward.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, and you mentioned you had a lot of siblings.
I do, so it's like I have a lot of
siblings too. Yeah, And I feel like I don't want
to say, like I feel like my mentality is a
lot different and like I agree like the traumas, like
I feel like I've let go, And I totally agree.
Like people have different periods of healing.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's it takes time. It's different for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But for me, it's like you desire the same for them,
the same type of peace, the same type of like
vision or like seeing things differently.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You want them to be healed, Yes, you want them
to fill the because once you start healing when you
start giving, I start healing myself my childhood. When I
start treating her the way that I knew that I
wanted to be treated. I start raising her the way
that I know she wanted to be needed to be raised.
And I feel good and I want that for my siblings.
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I really do. I want that for everybody, And I
think that's another reason why I do the things that
I do, because I want everybody to feel and heal
that in our child.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think most importantly, also is like you guys showing.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That side.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Like I said, it is also taboo, and it's sad
that it is. But I appreciate you guys with the
content that you give in the relationship that you have
not just for me, but also people of color, Like
they can understand that because it's hard.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's hard for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It is for So.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
If there's anything you guys could say, obviously to your guys'
community or anybody in general, like you as a daughter,
maybe like what is your piece of advice, like to
have a better relationship with your mom or for your
mental health or anything.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know, when they ask you, just be honest. I
feel like being honest is the easiest way for you
to get that relationship, even if it's hard for you
to be honest with them.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
At least.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't know how to explain it because I'm when
it comes to okay. When it comes to situations like
this where it's like people can't be honest with their
mom and they don't have they don't have good relationships
with them, it's kind of hard for me to give
advice to it because I've never had that, but I
can always say, just be honest with them. At first,
(19:38):
for a while, it was hard for me to be
honest with my mom because I was just scared that
she would be mad at me. But if you be
honest with them, it's an easy way to have better
relationship and communication with them. And even if it's rocky
with them, just be like, Mom, listen, I need you
to understand. From where I'm coming from, I feel like
it's just honesty in communication is just the best way
to go when it comes to trying to build that
(19:58):
relationship with your mom. It's also two way street, not one,
so they have to be honest as well. But I
feel like that's just for me. It's honesty and communication.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, what about you.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
What do you feel.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
On how to build a better relationship with.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Their cats better?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, treat them.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like human beings, human beings. Treat them like human beings
and allow them to be their own individual A lot
of us parents, I feel we raise them to have
this expectations of what we expect them to be and
who we want them to be. But if you do that,
(20:40):
you're crippling their individuality. We're not allowing them to express
who they are. And if you're shutting down their feelings,
if you're shutting down their life motivations and you're like no,
you need to do this, They're not going to be
able to find themselves. They're going to find themselves in
the forties like me, or in the late thirties like me.
Like yeah, but you know, just allow your kid to
(21:05):
be who they are, you know. And also with the
lgbt qi A community, I know that's it's a tough topic,
but when it comes to gender, I don't I don't
know if we should even bring this up, but I
feel like if you keep on telling your boys that
(21:25):
they can't play with the doll, they're going to be
more interested in wanting to play with it. You know
what I mean, I think and.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm going to tell somebody something.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No, Yeah, they're gonna want to keep doing it. Yeah,
they're gonna want to keep on doing it, and they're
gonna wonder why. So you're making them more curious as
to why. If you would just say it's a toy,
they're gonna be like, Okay, I played with the toy.
You can't wear pink, Well, let them wear the color.
It's color. I feel like we as parents put that
kind of pressure on them, and I feel like that's
(21:55):
the start of how we corrupt their brain. That's a
different time.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, I agree, No, No, I agree and me myself,
like I just feel the world is so universal, like yeah,
like it's created for a reason. Like let's just I've
even had this conversation with my friends the other day
about like, you.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Know, dresses and boys. Yeah, you know, like certain things
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's kind of like if you put things into perspective,
it's like try it, yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
If it works out.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Like there's no yeah, because then it's like you're blocking
them from just seeing life in general, like let's say
objects or a color, Like it's like not everything's forbidden
just because you're a boy, just because you're a girl.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I always say that life is not a contract. Yeah
you know what I mean. You you're not signing it.
Just turn the page and keep on going, or.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Like, when's the contract? What's the page?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ed?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah you can I didn't see this covering.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You can change it. It's not like a deal with
the devil or anything. Like, just live your life if
you just just love it, try it out.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, and definitely, like I loved what you mentioned like
killing your childhood trauma but also through her.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And one thing I can say, just not from that
from my perspective of what if you done, let me
start over. What I can say is something that you've
done for me, for me to trust you and to
actually want that relationship with you, is not being judgmental
when it comes to things that I was coming to
you for. Yeah, like you gave me room to be
open and honest. You also gave me room to, you know,
(23:32):
tell you the truth about things, and you don't judge
me for things you relate to them. So like when
I came about my eating disorder or things I was
going through in life, instead of you being like She's like,
shut up, theory, like you're fine, like da da da da,
You're like theory. Listen, when I was eighteen years old.
When I was sixteen, I didn't want to eat either,
Like I was getting calonics weekly done so that my
(23:53):
stomach was flat. So I can model, like you've related
to me about it and then you let me know,
like theory, lessen, it's okay, we can do it together.
What can I help you with? She was going to
the gym with me every day, meal prepping with me
every day, looking up meals for me, like it's for
this situation I will be forever. I'm just for this
situation I'm forever grateful for because a lot of people
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don't have that, like you never and like never in
her life has ever judged me for anything that I've
ever done, even with the situation with my my what
I was just going through with somebody, like I chose
hell over like my family, over everything that I loved,
I chose Hell. And she sat there the whole entire time,
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and it was just like I'm holding her hand, this
is what I think you should do. But it's okay.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
She just never judged me for it, and I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That even if.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's wrong, if it's messed up, and I will be
forever grateful for that because people don't get that nowadays.
So that's why I trust.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
That's my girl.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I trust her because of that. That's my bitch, That
is my bitch.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's my bitch, because that, you know what, I love
and appreciate these things, and I don't want to turn dark.
But I don't have my mom right. My mom passed
away when I was fifteen.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And I'm twenty six now, so I've missed a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I've usually gotten. The years is going down.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Everybody would tell me I look thirty thirty, yes.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But that's because I act very sure. I act mature
in my head. I'm like thirty, I've been through the
daughter's age. Yeah, so I'm like, I've been through some shit.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So but anyways, back to what I was saying, I
appreciate relationships like this, and I feel like the closest
I can say that I have that relationship with is
my sister, and it's evolving every day.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, that's also my sister.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
She's also the person that raised me and it's beautiful
to see because a lot of people, You're right, they
don't have that, and even if they had the opportunity
to have their mom here, they treat it very differently
and it's really sad. And I don't want to be
like the dark one in the room either. Like with
you're certain friends, with certain friends, I'm like, you guys
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are just treating or you're not listening, Like, yeah, you're
not listening to.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Your mom, like obvious. And I'm not saying moms.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Are right all the time, right, but it's like there's
like a if she's saying it's she's saying it.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's for a reason, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I really like this. This brought me a lot
of like it's healing. I love that for you guys.
I generalely love your guys' relationship. It is so it's
so beautiful and it's so genuine and yeah, let's can
we choose to someone. Oh you finished it, girl, Okay,
let's just do air cheers. Okay, you guys, we're gonna
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go on break and we will be right back. Welcome back,
you guys. Okay, So let me tell you a little
bit about my life because they're asking me off Camra, Like,
who like more about me?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So okay, like I said, people think I'm a lot
older because of this shit that I've been through, my mentality,
and I'm very.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Mature, so let's just make it short.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
My passed away when I was twelve, right, he was.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
He wasn't in and out of the picture.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He was in jail, you know, did some bad things,
but he was a great dad.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And then my mom passed.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Away three years later after that in a plane accident.
So imagine like me and then my other siblings, right,
my sister. My mom passed away when my oldest sister
was my age twenty six, so we're all fresh, like
figuring out life. Like my sister was always the one
(27:31):
protecting us, like leading us. And you know, they're super,
very emotional, they're more.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
When my mom passed away, I became.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
More I don't want to say harder, but I felt
like I needed to be a pillar for them because
you know, they I would just see them more emotional,
and it was a lot harder for me to express
my emotions because you know, at least for me, And
I don't know if you've ever felt that, Like, I
just don't want to add on to like what's happening,
you know, like it's just I don't want to be
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that person. So then there's me coming home by myself crying,
and then you know, shit that I've been through like
social media, work and all these things, like it's matured
me and I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the experience. I'm grateful,
you know. And I know it sounds bad, but I
don't think that I would be who I am today
if my mom didn't pass away or you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
And I'm not saying like.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh I would love to have her here, right, No,
I would love, love, love, but I appreciate who I
am now without her, you know, and finding discovering my
identity who I am and understanding who I am. I
dated a girl before also like without her here. So
it's kind of like I've enjoyed understanding myself and discovering me,
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but still having the space to honor her, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And what you mentioned about.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like you're obviously you're eating disorder and all. You know
that the story was completely different from me. You know,
my mom was also very strict me about my weight,
me and my sisters. You know, but now I understand.
My relationship with food has always been like.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Wishy washy back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I've always gained weight emotional eating. You know, I hate
like addicted to working out. I hated it at one point,
you know. But that was also because the way she
was raised. You know, my grandpa was very very very
tough on her, and so it kind of just overflowed.
And because she was an artist and image was very.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Important, you know. And again Latino.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Culture is very like to the book, straight to the
point and like you know, no Nortias, no bread and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So it's very hard exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So then you know, now that I'm older, when I
was actually when I was younger, I was sent to
like a I don't even know what to call it.
There's no the word to call it than a fat
camp for me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's the only thing I call it, you know, Or
I don't even know what it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Was called back then, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I only saw it as that.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Would I ever do that to my kids?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, But I understand my mother now, I.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Don't blame her like I I've forgiven her for that,
even if like I never got and I'm sorry because yeah,
it's it's definitely a mind fuck, like it's it's a battle.
It's literally it's something that I probably still struggle with
to this day.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And it's not something that's ever gonna go completely away, obviously.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like there's healing and there's things that you could fix
and whatever. But when you see it, like when you
and I say it in general for everything as well,
but when you pinpoint the reason for everything, like I
feel like that brings so much more healing.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So that's why again, like I love your guys' relationship.
I love that you were there for her during that
time of her life when she mentioned, you know, when
she got emotional, Like I I would love to have
that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I appreciate the fact that I got to learn
it on my own as well exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And I'm able to teach that to people or you know,
my friends or making sure that I can fully love
myself as well, you know. So yeah, it's like so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Feel that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I love that because you are so powerful. You are
a very strong woman, because you had nothing to actually
really lean on beside yourself and with even with that
background noise in your head of that I went to
that camp, I did this, and I don't have that
that that conversation with my mom. To actually heal this
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part of me, I know I can find it within
myself to do it on my own, and that is beautiful.
I love that for you. I'm the same way, so
that resonates with me on many levels. There was nobody
else to help me heal that part of me, even
though I had my mom, there was no there was
no way I can communicate with my mom the way
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the theory can with me. So it was like I
had to heal that part of myself self about myself.
So I love that. I love that for you, and
you are such a powerhouse room and it's just like.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Really and I really like these like those type of
comments because I feel like I used.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
To not be like that.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like they've known me for years already, and I feel
like I've evolved and like changed my attitude about life,
and like you know, I've I'm blessed. I'm honestly blessed,
and I'm grateful and like I love to say that
I've been able to do a lot of things without
having my parents. But I love seeing a duo a
relationship flourish and manifest and be this great thing because
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a lot of people do not have do not have it,
and like I said, when they do have it, it's
taken for granted, you know, like they.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
See it as like a drag or a burden, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like, oh, you're in my way in my life.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I always say this.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm like, the world would be so much better if
they did therapy, like everybody or like something.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know what I mean. You guys have done therapy.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh yeah, we love therapy.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We love therapy. We have a great relationship. But there's
parts of her that I so when she's so when
she said that she tells me everything, I'm like, you're
telling me everything. Yeah, that's why we I mean therapy,
so we can have individuality from one another.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Why because you guys feel like you guys are too close.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Maybe No, it's not that I think that we're too close.
Yeah maybe yeah, I could just actually yeah, because I
say that all the time. I think we're too close.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So I practice therapy just because I feel like I've
been a mom since I was eighteen years old. I
have been a big sister since I was eleven years old.
I have been the little big sister my whole entire life.
My older siblings rely on me like I'm their mother.
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So I need individual space for myself. And I think
me practicing that. I think that theory does too, and
that's why I love therapy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do you guys say separation anxiety from each She does,
oh theory, I am.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I say no, I do too. I stay at the
house for one day, like one night, to protect me.
I just don't know how I can live with that.
I so much give me, give me two three days.
Like I stayed over my friend's house for the weekend
and I was.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like a lie. She had my grandpuppy.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
No, not even her.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Don't even sorry about that. I'm talking about every other
different time.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm girl.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We can pull up texts.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I am not like that.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
I came home.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I went to school, okay, Okay, so I started school
back up. I'm going to a stition school. And I
went for like a week okay. And she's like every
time we just come home, just gets so exciting happy,
Like I've been so depressed all day. Now you're home,
but I'm just so happy, like I just I realized
that I just can't live without you. And every time
you're home, I just get so happy. Like this is
literally our conversation. And she was sitting on the couch
(35:11):
so depressed. I was getting text from her from school.
She's like, I'm just so sad. I came home and.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
She's like, I just got a burst of energy. I'm
so happy.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm like, that's your depressed sit down, Like, no, not okay,
it's because I'm there and it's fine. You just love
my energy.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
You guys currently live together, Yes, that's gonna be bad.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm assuming you would like to move out at some point.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I'm looking, really, how are we hand? How's that sitting?
M M, the breath, the long pause.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So it's different. It's different now because my grandbaby.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
She don't care about me no more. She gets what
my dog.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No. So wherever she goes, I will be moving to
the state wherever.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
A minute.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Because she's my she's also my work partner. She is
my partner. We have business together as well, so it's
not like don't do that, girl, even if it before
we even start working together. Wherever you go, I go,
Wherever you go, I go.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
You're my best friend.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I wouldn't I would.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I'd rather her be like next door neighbors anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But no, Look, if you guys have a good relationship now,
it'll probably be even greater.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
When she moves up, when she moves out, and I'm
looking forward to it. I am looking forward because I
want to decorate her house. I want to come over
our house. I want to be obnoxious. But it's just.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I she's not ready for me to move to Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I want to go.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's not that I'm not ready for you to move
to Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Where are you guys from right now?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Maryland, Okay, okay, it's not that I'm not ready for
her to move to Miami. It's I'm not prepared for
me to move to Miami. And it's selfish, but I'm
willing to do that.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Okay, let go, Yeah, let go.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I know I keep on saying it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It's like I'm going no matter what.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, no, I want her to And I've told her
this many a times.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like there, just go. I'll be there when I.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Will be there, if even if it's like six months later,
I will be there. But it's more of the I
don't want her to have that responsibility of Cora, because
I know that she's going to want to be out
and party and do the things that she wants percent.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
But I still have a responsibility when it comes to
being home, and that's my dog.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
So I think it's trusting her.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, get it together.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think it's trusting her. I think you know. There
you go.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
No, it's only because of the dog. If it wasn't,
because of course, she would have been like bitch bye.
But it's because of my dog.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Even when I'm.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
She's leaving the house and course with me, she's like
no one just no one loves her as much as
no one would take care of her as much as
I like.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I birth her. Like, it's fine, I got it. A
dog is a gift, it is that's my girl gift. Yeah,
I love her, I know, and I got her girl.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
How does your partner feel about that? Your wife about moving?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So she's going to keep the house. So I told
her I was going to do a six month one
six six months off where I did that before. It's fine.
I'm okay with it until she feels comfortable wherever she
stays completely. So yeah, it's still just a trial.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
It's not just like I'm going to follow you everywhere forever.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I always keep my out my house smart, but
I will always rent a place wherever she wants to go,
just until she knows exactly what she wants to do,
and I always want her to Unfortunately, I'm this cuckoo
head a safe space. I know she has nick like I.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, that's the first thing she said.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
As long as she has Nikki, I am, I am.
And that's the only This is the only reason why
I'm willing to do the six month the one six
months off is because of her.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Nicole's like, okay, sorry, because a lot of the people
don't know. But Nicole's like another sister. She's my best
friend's sister, so everybody knows. But they live in Miami,
and Theory will be going and have Nicole. But I
wanted to ask where did Theory come from?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Like the name.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I was like, Groove Theory.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Okay, what is Groove Theory? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's an old band, Okay, It's.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Like, I think it's a very unique name.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
I used to hate my name.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
She used to call her Amaya. I used to hate,
but now I call her Amaya just to tick her off.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Do you have a middle name, my Destiny Theory, a
Maya Destiny.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yes, so I was giving her up for adoption. That
was her original name. It was a Maya Destiny.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, you were going to give her up for adoption, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Okay, originally I was giving her up for adoption, and
then I'm sorry, I'm so go ahead, and then I
decided to keep her at that moment. So I originally
really wanted the name Theory when her father and I
were together, but I was so young that my aunt
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and uncle were like, Okay, if you don't want to
do this right now, we'll take her. And I was like,
thank you, but you can't have my name. You want
to have to name her Amaya Destiny, and that's her
original birth certificate. But once I seen her little Dodo foot,
it was all purple and stuff, I was like, you
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knew it's my girl. And I told her about this foot.
I told her about the foot that I seen for
I think eighteen years. I told you. And my aunt,
who was originally supposed to adopt her, kept all my pictures,
my pregnancy pictures, my delivery pictures, and she took a
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picture of her foot.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I was like, ah, so on Mother's Day, on when
she turned eighteen, she sent me all the pictures and
it was just so cool. I was able to show theory.
I was like, this is the foot, this is the
foot that I see, this is the foot that I
seen that. I was like, you're my best friend. I
love you. You're staying here with me. And then I
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told the doctors. I was like, I don't want to
give her up for adoption anymore. I want to sign
the Alpha David. And they were like, this is what
you're gonna have to do. And I was like, can
I change her name? They were like, change her name,
whatever you want to do. Wow, theory, and that's here
I am. It has she has two birth certificates RESOICH
security numbers.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah. My original birth certificate says am I Destiny Fraser.
But I was a male.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, they messed up and yeah they mess VITA records
messed up and then it was like a my Destiny
Sevester and then it was like theory in My Destiny Fraser.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
It stayed male until I was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
No, it was like sixteen sixteen. Yeah, because you were
trying out for cheerleading, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Oh, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't I see, I always have these conversations with
my friends, like I don't know if I could ever
if I was ever to do adoption, right, do we
have theoretical conversations or whatever, like if there was like
certain situations like what if you did and but with
your your you said your.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Aunt, my aunt and my uncle.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Seeah, I don't know how I would do that.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, I'm glad I didn't because that's a different topic.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, did they did? I get mad after that?
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
They did. They didn't talk to me, like I said,
they didn't send me any other pictures until she was
like team.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
But I'm just glad, which is what years ago.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Wow, my uncle was arrested for my lusting my cousins,
his new wife's daughter and the neighbor's daughter. So he's
still currently in jail.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
So imagine.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, God said, girl.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
God works beautiful ways for real.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I was like yeah, and I just I think about
that moment. I don't know what came over me because
I was I was not ready to be a mom.
I was like, no, absolutely, and that foot.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
That foot you like, mom, gilt about it.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
All the time, I'm like, what was wrong with me?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm just like, what what? What kind of selfish woman?
Anybody else? Only me your opinion, my opinion for myself.
This is my mom guilty. What kind of woman would
actually put my child in a position to suffer that?
Even though I didn't you didn't know, she didn't go
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she did, But that could have been her life and
I would have been just willy nilly, just living my
life the way that I wanted to live. And she's
sitting here suffering at the hands of a family member
because I wanted to be selfish. But I talked myself
out of it all the time. Because I sit there,
(44:35):
I open up that damn door and I see her
little buckwee ass just look at me telling me to
shut the door.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Wow, don't play with me.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
No, that's crazy. That is Like did you like it was?
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Guys are like believe in God or love God?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay, do you feel like that was like a God
for you?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
A God moment? There's so many times that God saved
my life. There were so many times that God chose
me to be the person I am for her, and
because she's she's not for greatness. I'm telling you she's
man for greatness. God tells me that all the time.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
At some point, do you guys want to like separate
we will content and all that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, we're working on me. Well, I'm working on me.
I want to do, you know, becoming that girl in
the forties, because a lot of women in their forties
are like, Okay, I'm settled down, I'm gonna wear baggy clothes.
I want to do this, but today's age, this is
not what's happening. We're gonna be calm that at girl.
We're finding ourselves. Our kids are off to college, are
(45:38):
off on their own. Let's figure out what makes us tech.
What's what makes Danny tech? Who is Danielle? Because I'm
not just a mom, I'm not just a wife.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I'm doing not just a mama does content with her daughter?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Ye, no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And you're not, you know, seen separately apart from your
mom as well.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy because now I feel like
I'm adding her more into my content because she she's
departing like it's yeah, I'm adding you want to move
like I'm out, I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Like, yeah, I'm like I want to do stuff myself,
and she's like, can you do this video with me?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
I'm like sure, oh love it.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
But we'll always have the podcast together always.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
A lot of people have there I made it, or
like I can't believe I'm hearing this.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Where I'm at so far?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Like social media, like you guys have nine millions millions
of followers? Did you ever expect it to be where
it's at?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, Like where did you like? Where did you think?
They're like, okay, what did you want to be when
you grew up?
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Like this? This?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Okay? What did you want her to be?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I wanted her to be this?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
All right?
Speaker 5 (46:40):
I've been doing YouTube since I was like eight.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah. I bought her her first camcorder when she was
seven that Christmas, supporting the Dreams Beginning, And when she
turned eight, she just start recording. We pull up her
old YouTube videos all the time, that's family night, and
just watch them.
Speaker 6 (46:57):
I would never take it so bad. It's so uncomfortable,
it's so funny. It's the best guy, this is my baby.
And she was like, oh my god, I do bottle feet.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Not them clowning you.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm gonna write a story too that the producer because
I'm going to write a movie because I'm that girl.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
I've always wanted to be a movie producer or a
songwriter for some reason.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
How many like of the views are you?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
What percentage have you? How many times?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Gosh, I'm probably like seventy percent. And she does too.
She'd be watching them.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
My supporters now would text me be like, so I
started up prenating on YouTube and this is what I found.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Show a video of me. I'm just like, oh my god,
it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
And she does these little funny facial features and I said.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Oh cute.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I said, oh, oh, I love it. Do you guys
ever feel like you're living in each other's shadows?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Oh that's a hard question, but yeah, sometimes just because
I'm I always like, do you want to do this
because you want to do it? Or do you want
to do it because I'm asking you to do it?
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Like, I'm just like, do you really want to do it?
She's like, no, I really want to do it. I'm like,
but do you really want? And that's why I ask
you so many times, like do you really want to
do it?
Speaker 5 (48:22):
We do? We do?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
See?
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Don't I do? I?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Do you know, what can I be honest? Look like,
I've always struggle.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I've always struggled being in my mom's shadow because again,
she was like a huge artist, and then I've always
felt like I've had to live up to something right.
But I feel like theory, it's going to be the
one having a hard time to let go. Oh no, yeah,
like like moving a little bit. I feel like it's
going to be the next huge step and it's going
(48:54):
to be harder on her than it is on you.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
And I don't think she wants to show it.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's just my little my theory on theory.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Well I love that theory period, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I don't correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel
like I could see it a little bit like it's
true because.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Because she says things and she's like, but you're still
you're moving right, Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
She wants to make sure you're gonna go down the.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Street, ring right down. It could be forty five minutes.
I'm like, it could be forty five minutes, that could
be an hour, but I don't like that. Forty five
minutes is too long. You're gonna be fine, You'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Well, that's what I've also what I was like, hmmm.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
So and we talk about those kind of things as well,
because I'm like, hey, I'm forty, not saying I'm old
or anything but gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
But I don't want to talk about it either.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean take it to therapy. Yeah, she
needs needs. I mean I think you guys talked about that.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
I've been in therapy four times. Yeah, so she's been eighteen. Yeah,
there's nothing bad, nothing bad about it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But I like the therapist that you're with now. I
didn't like your first one. She was kind of our
therapist was.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
She told me that I had like split personality.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Later, I was, girl, what, and then she would sit
on the phone for an hour. I'm be like, and
this is what happened to me, And I'm so traumatized,
and my friends don't talk to me. I'm like, girl,
who is in therapy right now?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
That's why you're gonna try different ones? Yeah? Yeah you can't.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah you see, Yeah, my recent one is the best.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, you gotta for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But I hope it's not hard for you because I've
been preparing you for this.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, but it's gonna be hard for me. I feel like, no, listen,
you know what, let me boss up real quick. No,
let me boss up.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
That.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
No, I'm I'm a bad bitch. I got this. You'd
be down the street from me.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
They so do you, guys? Like, what's next for you? Guys?
Obviously you're moving.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I'm assuming the content is going to change the dynamic,
not the relationship, but maybe like the dynamic on socials
is going to definitely change.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, for you theory, where do you see it?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Where do you see it going? Now that you're getting older,
you're obviously entering a new phase of your life. You're
gonna be bosting up more like it's gonna be different
for sure.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Like our content or separately I think.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I think because it's going to be separately for it's
gonna start shifting that way.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Oh no, She's like, so me me, I'm trying to
focus on my brand. I'm going out to Miami Ford
start my skincare line. I found a warehouse out there
that will help me. So that's what I'm doing out
in Miami. For us, I feel like that we're gonna
continue what we're doing separate or not hours away or not.
We will make it work because what we have is
(51:43):
special and we are healing people. And I'm going to
continue to push on that, and we're going to continue
to keep on doing that. So no matter where I am,
no matter where you are, it's never gonna change. So
I'll start my skincare line, She'll have her eight hundred books.
We're still gonna be healing people's traumas. We're going to
be those girls. You know, it's never changing.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I well said, I taught you well no, But I
want to honor you guys, and again obsessed with your guys' relationship,
but I want to honor and respect you guys for
what you do for social media.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know, it's not easy. You guys still get hate.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
You guys are doing something good and it obviously gets
taken another way. But I appreciate you guys breaking the
status quo and being a voice for healing traumas, for
having a good relationship with your mom and how important
it is and how good it can be, you know.
Like again, I think the main thing is that a
lot of people don't have this opportunity and you guys
(52:43):
are using it for your good and it's genuine and
organic and I love I genuinely love it, and I
definitely wish you guys all the success and all the love,
and I wish you the best of Miami.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Thanks, girls, It's gonna be nice you too. You got
just give her the dog bye, give her the now.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Now, do you guys want to share your socials so
that way they can follow you and be obsessed?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Say, you can follow our page at Sevester Underscored. You
can follow us at Sevester Underscore Danielle Underscore one. All
social media platforms YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
You can follow me at Theory phraser with two Eyes
on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
We're going to add it in the description box and everything. Yeah,
make sure you guys shall show them some love.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
If you guys got your mama, give them a tight hug,
love them, call them, tell them you love them. It's
a beautiful thing. I appreciate you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Make sure you guys like comment, subscribe to the podcast,
leave a review, and I will see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Overcome for podcast is a production of iHeart Cast Network
Welcome back to the Overcovered podcast. I am your host,
Jenna Colopis. Thank you guys so much for clicking and
choosing to watch this episode today. I'm very excited and
also very honored and have the pleasure of meeting two beautiful,
gorgeous mother daughter duo girls at women, let's say women,
because they're not girls, they are women. We have Theory, Hey,
(00:27):
and I have Danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is our first time meeting each other. We're gonna
get to know them together. I kind of see who
they are, what they do they do? They do do
mother daughter content. They are an amazing duo, and I
would love to go deep dive into your guys'.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Relationship on and off camera.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How you guys started social media, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We're gonna have like a cool little chit chat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm ready. Yeah, I'm so excited to be here. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm never like you know, not that I'm never, but
I rarely give mother daughter duos.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I love to see like the different dynamics and
opinions and like.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You, first of all, I hope everybody in the comments
is going to agree that they look like sisters. I
was when I came downstairs because they were they're here
in my house, right. I saw them like, there's no
way that's a mom and daughter, Like you look exactly alike. Well,
you know, I think that you did a great job.
She's gorgeous and you're also very gorgeous as well. Okay,
(01:27):
so let's get let's get into it. You guys obviously
have a tremendous following.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What are the numbers at right now?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Let's say so TikTok for my main account is nine million,
Hers is one point two million, our Instagram's mine is
at one point one hers is at almost two fifty k.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Congrats on YouTube is.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That one million one point one and Facebook is also
at one point one million.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That for you guys, well deserved success.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How did it all start?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, it just started with me being a grumpy gil
So before social media became this big prominent thing in
everybody's life, we all spoke on a couch and we
all hung out a lot. Like every day she would
come home from school, she'd be like, oh, this is
what happened. You come home from work and be like, yo,
(02:24):
let me tell you about this. These two chicken heads
started leaving me out and talking and giggling over this phone,
and I was like, dude, what are you guys laughing at?
Like it's TikTok? I was like, what the is a TikTok?
So they start showing me and I was like, this
is not funny. This is not funny. So I decided
during the pandemic that I was going to try it,
(02:46):
and it didn't. It didn't hit. I was just trying
to do trends and one day we did a we interacted.
We did a.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Second conversation because I was like, Mom, I think my
ex boyfriends cheating on me, and she was like, you
want to pull up? Just being funny, Like we were
just like being so funny. She was like, that would
be so funny if we just record that really quickly.
So I was like, So I walked in the room.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I was like, hey, Mom, like, I think my ex
boyfriends cheating on me, Like we need to pull up.
She was like, all right, let's go, let's go. I swear.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
We posted it and it got like six million views,
like yeah, first time I ever posted it relatable, So
very like, what if.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We just start recording our reactions from like ten years ago,
five years ago, just recreate all these interactions and.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It blew up so very organic, very it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Was very organic.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So you guys would.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Say, like the bond on off camera is the same.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We do keep a little bit private due to I
don't think that the internet is really ready for how
raw it can get.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But you're too honest by as Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
There's a few times. There's a few times we have
like put something out and it's really raw and they're like,
this is too much m h point. Taking the B word.
Everybody's like, I can't believe that, and I'm like, well,
it's our conversation. It's like how we communicate with one another.
If I say bitch, she knows that it's not the way. Yeah,
(04:21):
it's not you know what, you stupid. I would never
talk to her like that. There's a difference from speaking
to her and talking to her at her talk.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And I've seen like videos word it's meant like they've
she's called you right, yeah, does it?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I feel like people.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Take that out of context as well. They do, and like,
so how's the reaction towards that, like.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
To the commentor yes, I'm just like, look if you
if it's look life is not all fit all, be all.
If it don't fit for you, don't do it. Don't
call your mom the B word, and don't allow your
children to call you to be word. We went through
a life span of growing and communication and things like that,
(05:07):
so where I would never allowed her at thirteen, don't. Yeah,
we're not we're not there yet, but you're twenty one
years old and you're my friend. At this point it's
more so friend than mother. Before it was mother than friends.
So this is my girl, this is my bitch, is
my girl.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I love the gone though, but has it always been.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like that between the closeness? Yes, yes, not this close.
I think it takes time to build a relationship to
get to this point.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
To understand each other. You guys had some rocky.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And especially from a kid's point of view, it's kind
of hard to trust your parents in certain aspects. Like
even though she was like, I promise you're not gonna
get in trouble, I'm still like mm hmm, I think, yeah,
I don't know if I should tell you because I
want to get stroking. Yeah, But it's always that first conversation,
like when I told her that lost my virginity for
the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Was this scary?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
She found out? She found a bad way.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I already didn't knew she did, she already.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Know, she alreadynew Chary is.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I told the story she came home one day
and she was just walking different.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No, it wasn't no, it wasn't No, she knows.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
They found out through my phone being connected to the
computer when there was pictures.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You went through it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
No, my oh okay, my other mother went and she's
seen the pictures of like me and my ex boyfriend
and like yeah, so you know. So after that conversation,
I swear everything changed, like I felt after Okay. I
talked to her and I was like, I'm really sorry.
She was like, I'm not mad at you for doing it.
I'm mad you for not talking to me about it
because I wanted to be able to educate you on
(06:44):
the situation and like precautions and what you should and
should not do. After that, I was like, hold on, girl,
like you're not mad at me for you know, doing
my thing, Like you're not mad at me, And she's like, no,
I'm upset because you didn't talk to me about a prior.
So after that it opened my eyes a lot, like, Okay,
I can trust her. She's not gonna be mad at
me for doing it. I just need to talk to
her prior for before I make the decision. So I
(07:06):
feel like that definitely opened up our dynamic. Dynamic, okay,
one hundred percent, way more.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I agree. I think you did realize that you could
trust me at that point when Yeah, after.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That, which I can like relate a little bit because
of my sister.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I always mentioned this, like I've learned.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
To keep that dynamic, like that boundary even.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
As I get older and I feel like it changes.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's like I want to keep limitations, like obviously she's
your friend.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But do you tell her everything? Like absolutely everything?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Everything? Really everything she knows?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, that's good, No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I don't even want to know what the phone
call I got last weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
What do you get scared?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Though?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
As a mom, like like trying to see that balance
to like I know she's telling you like this is
a friend and then I happy one.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So we talk about that a lot, and I'm like, hey,
can I be your mom right now?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And she's like, okay, I guess I don't like it.
I'm like, don't friend form?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, She'll asked me to tell her in front for
him because I think she respects that more than me.
I feel like Momy is very coddling.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's like, you know, I feel like I don't like that,
she don't like it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I need her to be like you need to do this.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I need that. I need like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Recently, I just had to pull her, pull her up.
I had to pull rank, which I don't like to
do because she is a twenty one year old young woman.
But sometimes I when it comes to me having to
pull rank and like, hey, I'm s so your mom,
it's kind of uncomfy for me in a in a
way because I don't want her to think that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Come from bad place.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, it's coming from a negative place. I don't know why.
I don't know why because I feel like our conversations
with friend for him is more like understand understanding. She's
more receptive of it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, okay, you guys, we're gonna go on break and
we will be right back.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Welcome back, you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You also you mentioned you have like another mom, right, yeah,
I'm assuming your partner, yes, yes, Can I dive deep
into that as well? Because I'm I've always been interested,
and I've never met the correct people. Yeah, Like you're
so open about your sexuality and obviously you too, right,
So it's kind of like, how what is that balance
(09:28):
or how is that like with Tina?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, well I don't yeah, so my way.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, so she's different.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
She's Tina.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So the pause I just gave you is just she's
a force to be reckoned with. She does not take
theory very lately. She's very protective. She's never her friends.
She's always mama.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
She's the mom.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
She is very anybody says or does anything to theory
to her. Look, I have goosebumps because my.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Wife is like, she'll kill, She'll kill.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's my baby girl. She does not play about this one.
Uh So when it comes to her being open and
being who she is, she's all four, one hundred percent.
But she's not going to be that friend for him.
She's always going to be the mother forum, she's always
going to be educating, she's always going to be guy.
There's a big balance in our dynamic us three, which
(10:25):
is why it works so well. And I'm grateful. I'm
so grateful. I'm so grateful for you, Tina. She's such
an amazing woman and theory would not be who she
is without that woman either. Yeah, because I am. I'm like,
you know what, I raise you kick it. Yeah, But
she's like.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The She's like that, Yeah, you can. You can go
do this, you can go do that, you can do that.
I'm like, okay, Tina, She's like no, no, no, no,
you could rein this. You can do this, you could
do that, Like, no, you cannot do that. Like She's
very like tough love is Tina, but.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
She also gives you reasons why.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, but I would never I don't. I would never
hear for it because it's always come from a good
place and I appreciate it so much because you're tough love,
but you're not tough love. You're very like education, educational light.
She's gonna like, I'm gonna let you learn from your
own mistakes. I'm gonna tell you, but if you do it,
you do it.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's fine. Tina's like, hena, No, you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Kind of get like best of both both.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Of it, and I love it. I love it. It
works so well.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
In some areas, like Tina, I'm so tired of her mom.
I'm so tired, Tina, Like it works sometimes Mimosa.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I've also been like nosy in the comments about
like obviously like the sexuality thing. And then I don't
want to say blaming you because or whatever, but you
know what I mean, like they've made comments like that,
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh gosh, it's I mean, it doesn't make me feel
any type of way, just because I know the truth
and sexuality is not just something that you force upon somebody.
It's definitely you know who who you are. But theory
came out before I did, like between us two, so
(12:07):
she already we already knew that she was interested in girls.
I grew up, I was already interested in girls. I
never told her that. And you know, it wasn't me
influencing her or her influencing me into thought. Yeah, she
liked girls way before I even came out to her.
(12:28):
Uh So when she did come out, I just was like, hey, girl, Hey.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
She wasn't shocked. She was not shocked. I was like, girl,
I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I was like, would have been different if maybe she
wasn't or like you know what I mean, like if
you were just like maybe against it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Let's say, if I was against it, I can't put
myself in that mental state because I love individuality. I
think that's how the world works. If I was against
let me see, if I was against something, what would
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Or did you ever have a moment of like like,
I don't know, maybe you didn't want this for her?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, So she's like, yeah, yeah, tell me.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, with my life choices, with the person that
I was with, why you brought.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Me on the spot with this life choice. It was
very hard to sit back and watch you do something
that I just did not like. So I can utilize
that one as.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But that was the mom and you probably too, right.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, because you can't protect your kid from their own heart,
and you can't protect them from their own will, their
own free will, their own decision making, and a part
of being a parent is allowing them to make those
mistakes and figuring that part of themselves out on their
own so they can have the tools in the future. Unfortunately,
(14:01):
I have to allow her to make that mistake, not
even a mistake, that life choice. I wouldn't say it
was a mistake.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But without ever throwing it in her face.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
With that, no, I wouldn't have never a freaking never
because I'm not perfect. I've done it multiple times. I
don't even know if I even answered that question, but sorry,
did I answer that question?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, it wasn't necessarily questions, more like so like topic,
like because I'm interested, like you know, at least for
being Latina and Mexican households, it's sadly forbidden like being
gay or liking another sex in general. And then on
top of because I saw the comments obviously as well,
like you're in a relationship, you have a wife, and
(14:42):
also I love it supported whatever, but as someone from
like Latino culture, it's like really forbidden, you know. And
I would say also like it affects more mental health,
and I love that you guys talk about that, and
you're so big on your guys' relationship, bend your bond,
and it's so sad to say that it's kind of
(15:04):
taboo to talk about your feelings or that relationship as well. Yeah,
is there anything that happened in your life as well,
like maybe it was so important to make sure you
have a good relationship.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
With your daughter.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, so I didn't grow up in the best situation
situation with my upbring end with my dad being absolutely
absent and my mother raising three biracial children in a
predominantly white neighborhood, and you know, there was a lot
and she was given hardly any tools to raise three
(15:37):
biracial children, and she was given no tools to be
able to communicate or the mental capacity to allow her
children to express themselves. So I don't take it out
on my mom. I don't dislike her or hate her.
We have a great relationship. We're building.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It stood where she was coming because.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I knew she didn't get the tools. Yeah, but the
way does she made me feel as a child that
needed to express themself and needed to be heard and
felt invalidated. I knew I did not want my baby
to feel that way. There was no way I was
bringing her up and allowing her to sit in that
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room and think about the things that I thought about.
I never want her to ever go through the things
that I had to ever go through. And that's why
I raised my daughter the way that I did. Open discussion.
Anything that you want to talk to me about, I'm here.
I don't care if I don't like it. She has
told me things that I wish she didn't have to
tell me. But I appreciate it and I respect her
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for it, and I also respect myself to allowing her
to have that space. But seeing how my siblings are today,
and I'm just like, I wish you could love yourself
enough to be able to move forward from our past.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Because trauma and stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, my siblings really hold on to that the way
that we were raised. And I'm like, yeah, just move forward.
And I know it's not that easy, but when you
love something, you want to pour love into it, You're
going to find a reason to move forward or try
to move forward.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, and you mentioned you had a lot of siblings.
I do, so it's like I have a lot of
siblings too. Yeah, And I feel like I don't want
to say, like I feel like my mentality is a
lot different and like I agree like the traumas, like
I feel like I've let go, And I totally agree.
Like people have different periods of healing.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's it takes time. It's different for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But for me, it's like you desire the same for them,
the same type of peace, the same type of like
vision or like seeing things differently.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You want them to be healed, Yes, you want them
to fill the because once you start healing when you
start giving, I start healing myself my childhood. When I
start treating her the way that I knew that I
wanted to be treated. I start raising her the way
that I know she wanted to be needed to be raised.
And I feel good and I want that for my siblings.
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I really do. I want that for everybody, And I
think that's another reason why I do the things that
I do, because I want everybody to feel and heal
that in our child.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think most importantly, also is like you guys showing.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That side.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Like I said, it is also taboo, and it's sad
that it is. But I appreciate you guys with the
content that you give in the relationship that you have
not just for me, but also people of color, Like
they can understand that because it's hard.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's hard for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It is for So.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
If there's anything you guys could say, obviously to your guys'
community or anybody in general, like you as a daughter,
maybe like what is your piece of advice, like to
have a better relationship with your mom or for your
mental health or anything.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know, when they ask you, just be honest. I
feel like being honest is the easiest way for you
to get that relationship, even if it's hard for you
to be honest with them.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
At least.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I don't know how to explain it because I'm when
it comes to okay. When it comes to situations like
this where it's like people can't be honest with their
mom and they don't have they don't have good relationships
with them, it's kind of hard for me to give
advice to it because I've never had that, but I
can always say, just be honest with them. At first,
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for a while, it was hard for me to be
honest with my mom because I was just scared that
she would be mad at me. But if you be
honest with them, it's an easy way to have better
relationship and communication with them. And even if it's rocky
with them, just be like, Mom, listen, I need you
to understand. From where I'm coming from, I feel like
it's just honesty in communication is just the best way
to go when it comes to trying to build that
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relationship with your mom. It's also two way street, not one,
so they have to be honest as well. But I
feel like that's just for me. It's honesty and communication.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, what about you.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
What do you feel.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
On how to build a better relationship with.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Their cats better?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, treat them.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like human beings, human beings. Treat them like human beings
and allow them to be their own individual A lot
of us parents, I feel we raise them to have
this expectations of what we expect them to be and
who we want them to be. But if you do that,
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you're crippling their individuality. We're not allowing them to express
who they are. And if you're shutting down their feelings,
if you're shutting down their life motivations and you're like no,
you need to do this, They're not going to be
able to find themselves. They're going to find themselves in
the forties like me, or in the late thirties like me.
Like yeah, but you know, just allow your kid to
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be who they are, you know. And also with the
lgbt qi A community, I know that's it's a tough topic,
but when it comes to gender, I don't I don't
know if we should even bring this up, but I
feel like if you keep on telling your boys that
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they can't play with the doll, they're going to be
more interested in wanting to play with it. You know
what I mean, I think and.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm going to tell somebody something.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No, Yeah, they're gonna want to keep doing it. Yeah,
they're gonna want to keep on doing it, and they're
gonna wonder why. So you're making them more curious as
to why. If you would just say it's a toy,
they're gonna be like, Okay, I played with the toy.
You can't wear pink, Well, let them wear the color.
It's color. I feel like we as parents put that
kind of pressure on them, and I feel like that's
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the start of how we corrupt their brain. That's a
different time.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, I agree, No, No, I agree and me myself,
like I just feel the world is so universal, like yeah,
like it's created for a reason. Like let's just I've
even had this conversation with my friends the other day
about like, you.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Know, dresses and boys. Yeah, you know, like certain things
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's kind of like if you put things into perspective,
it's like try it, yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
If it works out.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Like there's no yeah, because then it's like you're blocking
them from just seeing life in general, like let's say
objects or a color, Like it's like not everything's forbidden
just because you're a boy, just because you're a girl.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I always say that life is not a contract. Yeah
you know what I mean. You you're not signing it.
Just turn the page and keep on going, or.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Like, when's the contract? What's the page?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ed?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah you can I didn't see this covering.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You can change it. It's not like a deal with
the devil or anything. Like, just live your life if
you just just love it, try it out.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, and definitely, like I loved what you mentioned like
killing your childhood trauma but also through her.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And one thing I can say, just not from that
from my perspective of what if you done, let me
start over. What I can say is something that you've
done for me, for me to trust you and to
actually want that relationship with you, is not being judgmental
when it comes to things that I was coming to
you for. Yeah, like you gave me room to be
open and honest. You also gave me room to, you know,
(23:32):
tell you the truth about things, and you don't judge
me for things you relate to them. So like when
I came about my eating disorder or things I was
going through in life, instead of you being like She's like,
shut up, theory, like you're fine, like da da da da,
You're like theory. Listen, when I was eighteen years old.
When I was sixteen, I didn't want to eat either,
Like I was getting calonics weekly done so that my
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stomach was flat. So I can model, like you've related
to me about it and then you let me know,
like theory, lessen, it's okay, we can do it together.
What can I help you with? She was going to
the gym with me every day, meal prepping with me
every day, looking up meals for me, like it's for
this situation I will be forever. I'm just for this
situation I'm forever grateful for because a lot of people
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don't have that, like you never and like never in
her life has ever judged me for anything that I've
ever done, even with the situation with my my what
I was just going through with somebody, like I chose
hell over like my family, over everything that I loved,
I chose Hell. And she sat there the whole entire time,
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and it was just like I'm holding her hand, this
is what I think you should do. But it's okay.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
She just never judged me for it, and I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That even if.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's wrong, if it's messed up, and I will be
forever grateful for that because people don't get that nowadays.
So that's why I trust.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
That's my girl.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I trust her because of that. That's my bitch, That
is my bitch.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's my bitch, because that, you know what, I love
and appreciate these things, and I don't want to turn dark.
But I don't have my mom right. My mom passed
away when I was fifteen.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And I'm twenty six now, so I've missed a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I've usually gotten. The years is going down.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Everybody would tell me I look thirty thirty, yes.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But that's because I act very sure. I act mature
in my head. I'm like thirty, I've been through the
daughter's age. Yeah, so I'm like, I've been through some shit.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So but anyways, back to what I was saying, I
appreciate relationships like this, and I feel like the closest
I can say that I have that relationship with is
my sister, and it's evolving every day.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know, that's also my sister.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
She's also the person that raised me and it's beautiful
to see because a lot of people, You're right, they
don't have that, and even if they had the opportunity
to have their mom here, they treat it very differently
and it's really sad. And I don't want to be
like the dark one in the room either. Like with
you're certain friends, with certain friends, I'm like, you guys
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are just treating or you're not listening, Like, yeah, you're
not listening to.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Your mom, like obvious. And I'm not saying moms.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Are right all the time, right, but it's like there's
like a if she's saying it's she's saying it.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's for a reason, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I really like this. This brought me a lot
of like it's healing. I love that for you guys.
I generalely love your guys' relationship. It is so it's
so beautiful and it's so genuine and yeah, let's can
we choose to someone. Oh you finished it, girl, Okay,
let's just do air cheers. Okay, you guys, we're gonna
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go on break and we will be right back. Welcome back,
you guys. Okay, So let me tell you a little
bit about my life because they're asking me off Camra, Like,
who like more about me?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So okay, like I said, people think I'm a lot
older because of this shit that I've been through, my mentality,
and I'm very.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Mature, so let's just make it short.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
My passed away when I was twelve, right, he was.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
He wasn't in and out of the picture.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He was in jail, you know, did some bad things,
but he was a great dad.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And then my mom passed.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Away three years later after that in a plane accident.
So imagine like me and then my other siblings, right,
my sister. My mom passed away when my oldest sister
was my age twenty six, so we're all fresh, like
figuring out life. Like my sister was always the one
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protecting us, like leading us. And you know, they're super,
very emotional, they're more.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
When my mom passed away, I became.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
More I don't want to say harder, but I felt
like I needed to be a pillar for them because
you know, they I would just see them more emotional,
and it was a lot harder for me to express
my emotions because you know, at least for me, And
I don't know if you've ever felt that, Like, I
just don't want to add on to like what's happening,
you know, like it's just I don't want to be
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that person. So then there's me coming home by myself crying,
and then you know, shit that I've been through like
social media, work and all these things, like it's matured
me and I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the experience. I'm grateful,
you know. And I know it sounds bad, but I
don't think that I would be who I am today
if my mom didn't pass away or you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
And I'm not saying like.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh I would love to have her here, right, No,
I would love, love, love, but I appreciate who I
am now without her, you know, and finding discovering my
identity who I am and understanding who I am. I
dated a girl before also like without her here. So
it's kind of like I've enjoyed understanding myself and discovering me,
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but still having the space to honor her, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And what you mentioned about.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like you're obviously you're eating disorder and all. You know
that the story was completely different from me. You know,
my mom was also very strict me about my weight,
me and my sisters. You know, but now I understand.
My relationship with food has always been like.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Wishy washy back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I've always gained weight emotional eating. You know, I hate
like addicted to working out. I hated it at one point,
you know. But that was also because the way she
was raised. You know, my grandpa was very very very
tough on her, and so it kind of just overflowed.
And because she was an artist and image was very.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Important, you know. And again Latino.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Culture is very like to the book, straight to the
point and like you know, no Nortias, no bread and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So it's very hard exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So then you know, now that I'm older, when I
was actually when I was younger, I was sent to
like a I don't even know what to call it.
There's no the word to call it than a fat
camp for me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's the only thing I call it, you know, Or
I don't even know what it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Was called back then, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I only saw it as that.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Would I ever do that to my kids?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, But I understand my mother now, I.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Don't blame her like I I've forgiven her for that,
even if like I never got and I'm sorry because yeah,
it's it's definitely a mind fuck, like it's it's a battle.
It's literally it's something that I probably still struggle with
to this day.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And it's not something that's ever gonna go completely away, obviously.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like there's healing and there's things that you could fix
and whatever. But when you see it, like when you
and I say it in general for everything as well,
but when you pinpoint the reason for everything, like I
feel like that brings so much more healing.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So that's why again, like I love your guys' relationship.
I love that you were there for her during that
time of her life when she mentioned, you know, when
she got emotional, Like I I would love to have
that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I appreciate the fact that I got to learn
it on my own as well exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And I'm able to teach that to people or you know,
my friends or making sure that I can fully love
myself as well, you know. So yeah, it's like so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Feel that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I love that because you are so powerful. You are
a very strong woman, because you had nothing to actually
really lean on beside yourself and with even with that
background noise in your head of that I went to
that camp, I did this, and I don't have that
that that conversation with my mom. To actually heal this
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part of me, I know I can find it within
myself to do it on my own, and that is beautiful.
I love that for you. I'm the same way, so
that resonates with me on many levels. There was nobody
else to help me heal that part of me, even
though I had my mom, there was no there was
no way I can communicate with my mom the way
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the theory can with me. So it was like I
had to heal that part of myself self about myself.
So I love that. I love that for you, and
you are such a powerhouse room and it's just like.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Really and I really like these like those type of
comments because I feel like I used.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
To not be like that.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like they've known me for years already, and I feel
like I've evolved and like changed my attitude about life,
and like you know, I've I'm blessed. I'm honestly blessed,
and I'm grateful and like I love to say that
I've been able to do a lot of things without
having my parents. But I love seeing a duo a
relationship flourish and manifest and be this great thing because
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a lot of people do not have do not have it,
and like I said, when they do have it, it's
taken for granted, you know, like they.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
See it as like a drag or a burden, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like, oh, you're in my way in my life.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I always say this.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm like, the world would be so much better if
they did therapy, like everybody or like something.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know what I mean. You guys have done therapy.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh yeah, we love therapy.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We love therapy. We have a great relationship. But there's
parts of her that I so when she's so when
she said that she tells me everything, I'm like, you're
telling me everything. Yeah, that's why we I mean therapy,
so we can have individuality from one another.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Why because you guys feel like you guys are too close.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Maybe No, it's not that I think that we're too close.
Yeah maybe yeah, I could just actually yeah, because I
say that all the time. I think we're too close.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So I practice therapy just because I feel like I've
been a mom since I was eighteen years old. I
have been a big sister since I was eleven years old.
I have been the little big sister my whole entire life.
My older siblings rely on me like I'm their mother.
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So I need individual space for myself. And I think
me practicing that. I think that theory does too, and
that's why I love therapy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do you guys say separation anxiety from each She does,
oh theory, I am.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I say no, I do too. I stay at the
house for one day, like one night, to protect me.
I just don't know how I can live with that.
I so much give me, give me two three days.
Like I stayed over my friend's house for the weekend
and I was.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like a lie. She had my grandpuppy.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
No, not even her.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Don't even sorry about that. I'm talking about every other
different time.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm girl.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We can pull up texts.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I am not like that.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
I came home.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I went to school, okay, Okay, so I started school
back up. I'm going to a stition school. And I
went for like a week okay. And she's like every
time we just come home, just gets so exciting happy,
Like I've been so depressed all day. Now you're home,
but I'm just so happy, like I just I realized
that I just can't live without you. And every time
you're home, I just get so happy. Like this is
literally our conversation. And she was sitting on the couch
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so depressed. I was getting text from her from school.
She's like, I'm just so sad. I came home and.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
She's like, I just got a burst of energy. I'm
so happy.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm like, that's your depressed sit down, Like, no, not okay,
it's because I'm there and it's fine. You just love
my energy.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
You guys currently live together, Yes, that's gonna be bad.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm assuming you would like to move out at some point.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I'm looking, really, how are we hand? How's that sitting?
M M, the breath, the long pause.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So it's different. It's different now because my grandbaby.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
She don't care about me no more. She gets what
my dog.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No. So wherever she goes, I will be moving to
the state wherever.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
A minute.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Because she's my she's also my work partner. She is
my partner. We have business together as well, so it's
not like don't do that, girl, even if it before
we even start working together. Wherever you go, I go,
Wherever you go, I go.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
You're my best friend.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I wouldn't I would.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I'd rather her be like next door neighbors anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But no, Look, if you guys have a good relationship now,
it'll probably be even greater.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
When she moves up, when she moves out, and I'm
looking forward to it. I am looking forward because I
want to decorate her house. I want to come over
our house. I want to be obnoxious. But it's just.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I she's not ready for me to move to Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I want to go.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's not that I'm not ready for you to move
to Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Where are you guys from right now?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Maryland, Okay, okay, it's not that I'm not ready for
her to move to Miami. It's I'm not prepared for
me to move to Miami. And it's selfish, but I'm
willing to do that.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Okay, let go, Yeah, let go.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I know I keep on saying it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It's like I'm going no matter what.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, no, I want her to And I've told her
this many a times.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like there, just go. I'll be there when I.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Will be there, if even if it's like six months later,
I will be there. But it's more of the I
don't want her to have that responsibility of Cora, because
I know that she's going to want to be out
and party and do the things that she wants percent.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
But I still have a responsibility when it comes to
being home, and that's my dog.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
So I think it's trusting her.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, get it together.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think it's trusting her. I think you know. There
you go.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
No, it's only because of the dog. If it wasn't,
because of course, she would have been like bitch bye.
But it's because of my dog.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Even when I'm.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
She's leaving the house and course with me, she's like
no one just no one loves her as much as
no one would take care of her as much as
I like.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I birth her. Like, it's fine, I got it. A
dog is a gift, it is that's my girl gift. Yeah,
I love her, I know, and I got her girl.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
How does your partner feel about that? Your wife about moving?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So she's going to keep the house. So I told
her I was going to do a six month one
six six months off where I did that before. It's fine.
I'm okay with it until she feels comfortable wherever she
stays completely. So yeah, it's still just a trial.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
It's not just like I'm going to follow you everywhere forever.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I always keep my out my house smart, but
I will always rent a place wherever she wants to go,
just until she knows exactly what she wants to do,
and I always want her to Unfortunately, I'm this cuckoo
head a safe space. I know she has nick like I.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, that's the first thing she said.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
As long as she has Nikki, I am, I am.
And that's the only This is the only reason why
I'm willing to do the six month the one six
months off is because of her.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Nicole's like, okay, sorry, because a lot of the people
don't know. But Nicole's like another sister. She's my best
friend's sister, so everybody knows. But they live in Miami,
and Theory will be going and have Nicole. But I
wanted to ask where did Theory come from?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Like the name.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I was like, Groove Theory.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Okay, what is Groove Theory? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's an old band, Okay, It's.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Like, I think it's a very unique name.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
I used to hate my name.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
She used to call her Amaya. I used to hate,
but now I call her Amaya just to tick her off.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Do you have a middle name, my Destiny Theory, a
Maya Destiny.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yes, so I was giving her up for adoption. That
was her original name. It was a Maya Destiny.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, you were going to give her up for adoption, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Okay, originally I was giving her up for adoption, and
then I'm sorry, I'm so go ahead, and then I
decided to keep her at that moment. So I originally
really wanted the name Theory when her father and I
were together, but I was so young that my aunt
(40:31):
and uncle were like, Okay, if you don't want to
do this right now, we'll take her. And I was like,
thank you, but you can't have my name. You want
to have to name her Amaya Destiny, and that's her
original birth certificate. But once I seen her little Dodo foot,
it was all purple and stuff, I was like, you
(40:52):
knew it's my girl. And I told her about this foot.
I told her about the foot that I seen for
I think eighteen years. I told you. And my aunt,
who was originally supposed to adopt her, kept all my pictures,
my pregnancy pictures, my delivery pictures, and she took a
(41:15):
picture of her foot.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I was like, ah, so on Mother's Day, on when
she turned eighteen, she sent me all the pictures and
it was just so cool. I was able to show theory.
I was like, this is the foot, this is the
foot that I see, this is the foot that I
seen that. I was like, you're my best friend. I
love you. You're staying here with me. And then I
(41:38):
told the doctors. I was like, I don't want to
give her up for adoption anymore. I want to sign
the Alpha David. And they were like, this is what
you're gonna have to do. And I was like, can
I change her name? They were like, change her name,
whatever you want to do. Wow, theory, and that's here
I am. It has she has two birth certificates RESOICH
security numbers.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah. My original birth certificate says am I Destiny Fraser.
But I was a male.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, they messed up and yeah they mess VITA records
messed up and then it was like a my Destiny
Sevester and then it was like theory in My Destiny Fraser.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
It stayed male until I was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
No, it was like sixteen sixteen. Yeah, because you were
trying out for cheerleading, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Oh, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I don't I see, I always have these conversations with
my friends, like I don't know if I could ever
if I was ever to do adoption, right, do we
have theoretical conversations or whatever, like if there was like
certain situations like what if you did and but with
your your you said your.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Aunt, my aunt and my uncle.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Seeah, I don't know how I would do that.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, I'm glad I didn't because that's a different topic.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, did they did? I get mad after that?
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
They did. They didn't talk to me, like I said,
they didn't send me any other pictures until she was
like team.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
But I'm just glad, which is what years ago.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Wow, my uncle was arrested for my lusting my cousins,
his new wife's daughter and the neighbor's daughter. So he's
still currently in jail.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
So imagine.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, God said, girl.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
God works beautiful ways for real.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I was like yeah, and I just I think about
that moment. I don't know what came over me because
I was I was not ready to be a mom.
I was like, no, absolutely, and that foot.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
That foot you like, mom, gilt about it.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
All the time, I'm like, what was wrong with me?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm just like, what what? What kind of selfish woman?
Anybody else? Only me your opinion, my opinion for myself.
This is my mom guilty. What kind of woman would
actually put my child in a position to suffer that?
Even though I didn't you didn't know, she didn't go
(44:15):
she did, But that could have been her life and
I would have been just willy nilly, just living my
life the way that I wanted to live. And she's
sitting here suffering at the hands of a family member
because I wanted to be selfish. But I talked myself
out of it all the time. Because I sit there,
(44:35):
I open up that damn door and I see her
little buckwee ass just look at me telling me to
shut the door.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Wow, don't play with me.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
No, that's crazy. That is Like did you like it was?
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Guys are like believe in God or love God?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay, do you feel like that was like a God
for you?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
A God moment? There's so many times that God saved
my life. There were so many times that God chose
me to be the person I am for her, and
because she's she's not for greatness. I'm telling you she's
man for greatness. God tells me that all the time.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
At some point, do you guys want to like separate
we will content and all that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, we're working on me. Well, I'm working on me.
I want to do, you know, becoming that girl in
the forties, because a lot of women in their forties
are like, Okay, I'm settled down, I'm gonna wear baggy clothes.
I want to do this, but today's age, this is
not what's happening. We're gonna be calm that at girl.
We're finding ourselves. Our kids are off to college, are
(45:38):
off on their own. Let's figure out what makes us tech.
What's what makes Danny tech? Who is Danielle? Because I'm
not just a mom, I'm not just a wife.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I'm doing not just a mama does content with her daughter?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Ye, no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And you're not, you know, seen separately apart from your
mom as well.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy because now I feel like
I'm adding her more into my content because she she's
departing like it's yeah, I'm adding you want to move
like I'm out, I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Like, yeah, I'm like I want to do stuff myself,
and she's like, can you do this video with me?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
I'm like sure, oh love it.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
But we'll always have the podcast together always.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
A lot of people have there I made it, or
like I can't believe I'm hearing this.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Where I'm at so far?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Like social media, like you guys have nine millions millions
of followers? Did you ever expect it to be where
it's at?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, Like where did you like? Where did you think?
They're like, okay, what did you want to be when
you grew up?
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Like this? This?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Okay? What did you want her to be?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I wanted her to be this?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
All right?
Speaker 5 (46:40):
I've been doing YouTube since I was like eight.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah. I bought her her first camcorder when she was
seven that Christmas, supporting the Dreams Beginning, And when she
turned eight, she just start recording. We pull up her
old YouTube videos all the time, that's family night, and
just watch them.
Speaker 6 (46:57):
I would never take it so bad. It's so uncomfortable,
it's so funny. It's the best guy, this is my baby.
And she was like, oh my god, I do bottle feet.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Not them clowning you.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm gonna write a story too that the producer because
I'm going to write a movie because I'm that girl.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
I've always wanted to be a movie producer or a
songwriter for some reason.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
How many like of the views are you?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
What percentage have you? How many times?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Gosh, I'm probably like seventy percent. And she does too.
She'd be watching them.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
My supporters now would text me be like, so I
started up prenating on YouTube and this is what I found.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Show a video of me. I'm just like, oh my god,
it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
And she does these little funny facial features and I said.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Oh cute.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I said, oh, oh, I love it. Do you guys
ever feel like you're living in each other's shadows?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Oh that's a hard question, but yeah, sometimes just because
I'm I always like, do you want to do this
because you want to do it? Or do you want
to do it because I'm asking you to do it?
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Like, I'm just like, do you really want to do it?
She's like, no, I really want to do it. I'm like,
but do you really want? And that's why I ask
you so many times, like do you really want to
do it?
Speaker 5 (48:22):
We do? We do?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
See?
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Don't I do? I?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Do you know, what can I be honest? Look like,
I've always struggle.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I've always struggled being in my mom's shadow because again,
she was like a huge artist, and then I've always
felt like I've had to live up to something right.
But I feel like theory, it's going to be the
one having a hard time to let go. Oh no, yeah,
like like moving a little bit. I feel like it's
going to be the next huge step and it's going
(48:54):
to be harder on her than it is on you.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
And I don't think she wants to show it.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's just my little my theory on theory.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Well I love that theory period, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I don't correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel
like I could see it a little bit like it's
true because.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Because she says things and she's like, but you're still
you're moving right, Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
She wants to make sure you're gonna go down the.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Street, ring right down. It could be forty five minutes.
I'm like, it could be forty five minutes, that could
be an hour, but I don't like that. Forty five
minutes is too long. You're gonna be fine, You'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Well, that's what I've also what I was like, hmmm.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
So and we talk about those kind of things as well,
because I'm like, hey, I'm forty, not saying I'm old
or anything but gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
But I don't want to talk about it either.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean take it to therapy. Yeah, she
needs needs. I mean I think you guys talked about that.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
I've been in therapy four times. Yeah, so she's been eighteen. Yeah,
there's nothing bad, nothing bad about it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But I like the therapist that you're with now. I
didn't like your first one. She was kind of our
therapist was.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
She told me that I had like split personality.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Later, I was, girl, what, and then she would sit
on the phone for an hour. I'm be like, and
this is what happened to me, And I'm so traumatized,
and my friends don't talk to me. I'm like, girl,
who is in therapy right now?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
That's why you're gonna try different ones? Yeah? Yeah you can't.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah you see, Yeah, my recent one is the best.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, you gotta for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But I hope it's not hard for you because I've
been preparing you for this.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, but it's gonna be hard for me. I feel like, no, listen,
you know what, let me boss up real quick. No,
let me boss up.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
That.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
No, I'm I'm a bad bitch. I got this. You'd
be down the street from me.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
They so do you, guys? Like, what's next for you? Guys?
Obviously you're moving.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I'm assuming the content is going to change the dynamic,
not the relationship, but maybe like the dynamic on socials
is going to definitely change.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, for you theory, where do you see it?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Where do you see it going? Now that you're getting older,
you're obviously entering a new phase of your life. You're
gonna be bosting up more like it's gonna be different
for sure.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Like our content or separately I think.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I think because it's going to be separately for it's
gonna start shifting that way.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Oh no, She's like, so me me, I'm trying to
focus on my brand. I'm going out to Miami Ford
start my skincare line. I found a warehouse out there
that will help me. So that's what I'm doing out
in Miami. For us, I feel like that we're gonna
continue what we're doing separate or not hours away or not.
We will make it work because what we have is
(51:43):
special and we are healing people. And I'm going to
continue to push on that, and we're going to continue
to keep on doing that. So no matter where I am,
no matter where you are, it's never gonna change. So
I'll start my skincare line, She'll have her eight hundred books.
We're still gonna be healing people's traumas. We're going to
be those girls. You know, it's never changing.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I well said, I taught you well no, But I
want to honor you guys, and again obsessed with your guys' relationship,
but I want to honor and respect you guys for
what you do for social media.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know, it's not easy. You guys still get hate.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
You guys are doing something good and it obviously gets
taken another way. But I appreciate you guys breaking the
status quo and being a voice for healing traumas, for
having a good relationship with your mom and how important
it is and how good it can be, you know.
Like again, I think the main thing is that a
lot of people don't have this opportunity and you guys
(52:43):
are using it for your good and it's genuine and
organic and I love I genuinely love it, and I
definitely wish you guys all the success and all the love,
and I wish you the best of Miami.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Thanks, girls, It's gonna be nice you too. You got
just give her the dog bye, give her the now.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Now, do you guys want to share your socials so
that way they can follow you and be obsessed?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Say, you can follow our page at Sevester Underscored. You
can follow us at Sevester Underscore Danielle Underscore one. All
social media platforms YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
You can follow me at Theory phraser with two Eyes
on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
We're going to add it in the description box and everything. Yeah,
make sure you guys shall show them some love.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
If you guys got your mama, give them a tight hug,
love them, call them, tell them you love them. It's
a beautiful thing. I appreciate you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Make sure you guys like comment, subscribe to the podcast,
leave a review, and I will see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
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