January 28, 2025 • 50 mins
This week my guest is Isaac Rodriguez. Having open, honest, and taking accountability in friendships is essential to healing and bettering any relationship. Many may not know but we have personally gone through the waves in our friendship and found a way to come back together as mature and healthier individuals.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to the Overcome for podcast. I'm your host,
Jena Kalpez. Thank you guys so much for joining today's episode.
If you guys have seen the title, then you guys
already know who is here. But before I introduce him,
I do want to remind you guys and bring awareness
also to everything that's going on in the world. We
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are having a lot of ice raids and a lot
of families are being affected by it. So if you
or anyone you know is at risk or needs help,
I'm gonna leave a couple links in the description box
that you guys can go ahead and find out ways
that you can help and support those families, or if
you guys need awareness, just you know, I'm gonna leave
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that all here. Please, please please be kind to one another,
and without further ado, we have the one and only,
for the third time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Run it back.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Isaac Rodriguez. All right, you guys, I think I think
this is a surprise too many. Let's just say, I
think we're just gonna say how it is. It is
a surprise too many, because I I think everybody kind
of knows, like, you know, we had a little break,
(01:18):
little moment, you know, we did we grew we you know,
he has his own life. I have mine a lack
of the better words. We you know, we've parted ways
for a bit, yeah, just for healthy reasons, I would say,
simpler in simpler terms. Yeah, and we're here now we're friends, yeah,
(01:41):
because not that it gets awkward, but it's just like
now that we're past that part, it's like, all right,
you guys. You know, this is like getting back with
the toxic eggs, like like this is like well being friends,
like as an adults.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
They just kind of looks like, you.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Know, which is what I want to talk about, and
kind of like just kind of walk people through obviously,
you know, there's things that had happened, there's things that
everybody kind of knows about, and especially like the TikTok
world and you know, all my favorite people are on
there and just and we love all of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They're just great. I love all the little TikTokers and
referring to the people in.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
The chat, you know, Okay, okay, well I think we should.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think just I'm honesty, I'm gonna let you drive.
I'm your passenger, princess, I'm go and wherever you go.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Isaak loves being the Princess Jackie. I'm just kidding, No, honestly, okay,
I think that I don't even okay, I wanted to
keep it between about me and you. Obviously there's obviously,
like other factors that played into it, and like you know,
(03:03):
I genuinely believe that there was just a lot, a
lot going on that obviously poured into our friendship, which
obviously sucked. Yeah, and I think I'll take accountability and
acknowledge the parts that you know, I obviously took a
step back and did what I had to do for
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my own peace of mind and whatever, and always praying
and hoping for the best because at the end of
the day, like we did live together, like we like,
the Isaac that you guys know is not the Isaac
that I know. So I think that's why it hurt
me more like what was going on and like how
it turned things turned out to be because the guy, yeah,
(03:47):
like Isaac, you guys see, it is obviously a different Isaac.
It's a new and better Isaac. It's you know, he grew.
But in my head and in my heart, it was
always that guy that you know, my guy, best friend,
the one that lived with me like we had hookah
and I it's like we would. He was there for
my anxiety attacks, like he was there for a lot
of things. So losing that part of me and losing you,
(04:07):
and like I never had a best guy straight friend.
I have gay friends, but questionable. I'm just kidding, just kidding, Okay,
I'm sorry, you know this is this is why I
brought him guys. No, I'm just kidding. No, but he
was and is my my best guy friend. Like he
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was the one that I ran to and I feel
like we have we have and had had a connection
that like not many people can like understand and you
understand me, and I understand you for sure. But I
do want to tell you publicly also because you also
did something for me publicly, and I think it would
be fair if I did the same thing in return, obviously. Okay, yeah,
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I'm just gonna say it for orders his unbrowns person
I out here anymore that live. Remember I messaged you
about the life that Wilito had with the therapist and
then everybody in the Waka house was there and like
everyone kind of just shitted on me, and like everything,
I do want to say that Isaac was also the
only person and maybe a couple I want to say
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shoddy a couple times also did clear out and defending me.
And because a lot of that shit wasn't true and
it's still not true about who I am or who
my family is, or that I stole or that I
put seasoned desist or this, this and that, or that
I was just an evil person. I Isaac was one
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of the main people that came out and also defended
me and my family. So I wanted to say thank you,
and I appreciate that because you didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And like to preface that, it's also like at that
time we weren't talking at all. So I did that
because I genuinely knew the truth and I knew that
it wasn't fair for you guys to be kind of
like a casualty of war at the time when I
really felt like you guys really had nothing to do
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with it, very like was the right thing.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
To do, right, And Isaac, obviously, I mean, you know,
you were there, You've been around my family, you've been
around me, and obviously you lived with me, so yeah,
it's like you know firsthand, but I did want it
to It's just that was in my mental knowledge, I
do want to publish per safe, thank you no, because
it was it was a pivotal because you know what,
and I think you could agree to this, like TikTok
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is no joke. Everybody, like I'm sorry. Maybe I'm the
only person that was really happy that it was gonna
get banned, and I know that stucks to say, but
like I know, but I know I thought, no, bro,
I know that's why because I thought about you. I'm like,
the damn Isaac makes money from here, like a lot
of people do mem which you know sucks. But I
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was also like I cannot wait till everybody's a kind
person again, Like there's so many like hateful people on
there and the hate that I was receiving, and I'm
sure that you were too about just things and you
get to this day and the shit that I get
to this day. It felt good knowing that, like damn,
like okay, yeah, it's over now, it's over now, and
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like he knew and like it it lifted something obviously
that still didn't end.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, It's crazy because like when that happened, I was
with Jackie and San Diego and then it was like
a moment where you couldn't like it just went black.
I was sitting there, I was just like, damn, Like
everything that I like thought was so like as far
as like opinions and what people thought about me and
stuff like, I'm like it's over, Like I can't see
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what they say about me anymore. It's it's legit disappeared. No,
it was like a pressure or not like a pressure.
Don't feel pressure to do it or like it just
felt like everything that because at one point it was
something that you know, things that you're involved in, like
drama and stuff like that. When you're in it, it
does like it stays in your mind and then for
(08:03):
it to just kind of like disappears, like oh it
really doesn't matter, you know, like people think of you
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, And I think that's like, but that's the thing
when it's when it's your living, you constantly have to
be there looking at it, and it's like, fuck, like
this is my living. I don't want people to think
this about me. Yeah, how am I going to fix
it or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because she's like, yo, I use TikTok obviously I post
and you know, I go live. You know, people clip
stuff or whatever. But I used ticktok to laugh and
have a good time, bro, and I love TikTok, Like, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You're looking cookie recipes like dam.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I used to out to fix my fucking my battery
or some bullshit or like cooking stuff too, and then brom,
you know it. It was like a bitter sweet relationship.
I love hate relationship because obviously you're able to make
money or you're able to you need it. You know,
it's upon social media, but yeah, there is like when
you are involved in it, there's I go badass, Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I had to change my algorithm, like I had have
you gone in there and done the refresher for you page? Bro?
I had to like, and I'll say it loud and clear.
I was like, and I've even told you too, Like
I had to like unfollow and do whatever I had
to do because I didn't want to see nothing. Like
it was such a bad energy or type of like
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toxicity that I just didn't feel like was healthy for me.
And you know, like I battled with anxiety and like
you know, I've been in this for a while, so
just like I don't want any bad anything, like I
wish everybody well and I've even told you that too,
and I even told Jackie too, because Jackie has reached
out to me and you know she's she's dope and
cool and love and respect to Jackie. I don't know
(09:41):
how you put up with it, but you know you
do because I wonder. I'm like, damn, like I know,
I've lived with that man.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like, yeah, Jackie, she's a keyper, she's a good one.
She loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How's it going? I want to know?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, I would say, you know, just like any other relationship.
We have our our discussions, as we'd like to call them,
our heated debates. But no, I think she's a special person.
And it's crazy like when TikTok was always like damn,
I really met you because of this app technic. Yeah,
you know, like all this trenks are because I started,
(10:23):
you know, filming, I met certain people and then that
brought me to you. But it does feel like like
a one of a kind person you meet I love
so much, and uh, you know we're going strong and.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What is it a year and something?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's like a year. We're going into February, so like
a year in like three months.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, imagine you forgot.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
TikTok.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, you guys, we're going to go on a
quick break and we'll be right back with more Isaac.
Welcome back, you guys. And it was so funny because
you and I to go to the same exact gym,
and the times we would just like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Run into each other, You're like, it's like, it's like
very complicated because I felt like my issue there were
things that I was upset about with you, but I
felt like my real frustration or anger was never directly
(11:25):
towards you, you know, And that sucked because it was
just kind of, like as I said before, it was
like you were a casualty of another friendship that I
had and you were kind of like stuck in the middle.
And it just kind of felt like, well, I have
to let go of that for sure, and you were
in the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And I think that's what is important about also having
individualism and separating relationships and having that open communication. And
I just literally got to a point one day whereas
like I saw you at the gym, I'm like, I'm
tired of this. I'm so done. I was like, Isaac,
let's talk, Like let's let's literally let's talk. I don't
(12:03):
even know how many months it was that we weren't
talking about. I was just like, you know what, like,
let's just clear it up for the sake, because you're
a good person. You're a good friend, and I love you,
and like I love the growth and I love to
see the things that you're doing, and it would suck
for me. It's like, damn, like these are things that
he dreamed of while he was living with me, and
that I wish that I was a part of.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I'm not saying it like out of jealousy or whatever.
I like, I'm so proud of you and everything that
you've done and that you continue to do and you know,
you're still grinding and whatever the case may be. I
just knew that for my my heart, like and for
my friendships and this new space that I was going
into that I was like, you know what, like I
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need to I don't want to just end something that
was so good like that, you know, And I think
that's important in friendships is having that open communication and
just being straight up, especially with someone that you live
with or some of that you're just super you're super
close with that knows everything about your life, yeah, you know,
and like I don't know, I don't know if you
want to speak into that about you know, communicating and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think that's something kind of like what I said
in the beginning, friendships kind of like changed throughout the
stages of your life, which is normal, Which is normal.
It just kind of happens like as you grow older.
And that's to say that I'm old man, because that's
another thing people say.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No but old no, no, but we're not twenty one,
we're not nineteen, and like you're changing exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So it's like you get into relationships or you know,
certain situations happened to where it's just like each situation
is different. But I think as I grew older, to me,
something that I felt like I developed a lot more
was a lot of empathy and understanding. So like even
when you told me like hey, I'm gonna follow you,
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or hey I gotta do this, like okay, Like if
that's something that you need to do for your own
sake and your own mental health, then like I understand,
I get it, you know, even if I don't understand it, Like, hey,
if that's what you need, I want what's best for
you and I feel like that's what I try to
do with all my I would say genuine friendships is
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like or anyone that I approachess I feel like I
have a relationship with is like, hey, my foundation was
with you? Is I care for you, I love you,
I want the best for you. So whether if I
understand it or don't understand it, whatever you got to do,
if that's what it's best for you, then okay, like
it is what it is. And I think when I
feel like now we're just kind of like talking about
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like mending relationships. And even if you were to have
like let's say differences, or you have some sort of
I don't know, misunderstanding certain situations to happen, I think
it's just all goes back to your foundation. If you
love this person, you care for them, you want what's
best for them, then someone has to put their pride
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down exactly. Someone has to go up to the other person.
And even if you feel like it's your fall or
it isn't your fall, or you know, whatever happened happened,
if you're willing and you care for that person, it's
just like, hey, I'm messed up, I'm sorry. What can
we do? Let's talk. And I feel like that was
a good sign, like for you, it's coming to me
that I was like, Okay, that takes a real person
(15:19):
to be like, hey, I don't give a fuck, well
how I look like, because I'm pretty sure up to
those moments, you're just like, bro, I'm gonna look like
an idiot. He doesn't want to talk to me, like,
of course, well this and X, Y and Z about
this situation. But to me, it was just like wow,
like that's real from her. She really does care for me,
because someone who really did it doesn't give a fuck
and would just like go on about their life of course.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And I think now it's like respecting each other's boundaries
as well, like whatever it is like in your friendship
or in this case, like certain people or certain things
that might be said or whatever. And I think it's
obviously like how you said, going back to the foundation
and going back to the base, Like to me, it's
always going to be like me, you just the days,
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like that's all that's my picture, that's my idea. That's
always going to be what it is because that's who
I know, who you are versus obviously like TikTok and
ill you know, I don't know, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's like the whole thing about TikTok is that they
get a perspective of thirty seconds, yes minute clip, and
you form an opinion of us.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They have your whole life plan. They know this, You're.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The worst person, Satan's son. I mean that seriously, Like
they draw their conclusion about you from two minutes of
a clip, and I understand, like there's an aspect to
it towards like you know, they're they have no other
thing to draw from except you see online. Absolutely, you know,
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even I got clipped the other day. Oh my god.
So I was my frustration, Like, I have absolutely no hate.
I have no offense to anybody that I've collaborated with,
that hung out with. Like a to each their own.
I may have a different opinion on certain things, but
I don't hate any creator or anything like that that
(17:18):
I like, I have nothing but good to say about everybody. Okay,
but I realized, I'm like, my frustration is with the
comments people in the chat, because you guys say things
that I'm like, that's fucking insane for you to say.
That's crazy. So then I started to roast the chat
(17:39):
and I said, oh, that's why you magic, because you're
and I started to make fun of their toes and
shit like that, I say, your toes throwing gang signs
and you know. So and like people don't know about
me or I feel like I think by now they
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would catch up, but they don't. I'm very sarcastic, like, yeah,
that is the number one. That's how I kind of
like show my love towards people. It's like once I
can started like kind of teasing you and picking at you,
like that's my love language of like, hey, you're my friend,
you're in my inner circle. Like you, I can pick
at you, you can pick at me. And we go
back and forth, and they clipped it in a certain
(18:22):
way and they're like, oh, Isaiah's about this right right,
and oh my god, like I was getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, because it's just what that clip is, yeah exactly,
Like there's no they don't see the context or whatever.
They weren't on the live or yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So it's just it's crazy because you know, people will
just form an opinion about you in the thirty seconds
two minutes or you know, sometimes people just say things
that just aren't simply true, all right, and then they
people just run with it and you're just kind of
like a bystander of that and they don't really see,
like going back to what you were saying, it's like
they don't really know or see, like, hey, the things
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that you've done for me, the things that like I've
done for you, things that you've done for other people
online and stuff like that, and you know, that's that's
why I lie to us. It's I feel like it's
always easy to just be like, hey, like let's let's
cut the bullshit, let's let's try to work things out.
Like you're a person that is not prideful, that is humble,
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because I think, if anything, what had drawn me to
you and our friendship it was like, well like despite
you having all these things, like you were always simply humble,
you're always simply a person of just like, hey, I
want to help you out, which is you know the
reason why I'm here today. And you know some people
know that, some people don't, but you know, those are
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things that like I will always stand for what's right
and what's true. So that's why in that moment when
they were saying certain things to me, it was like,
not like I know how this person is. I know
it may look like a certain thing and because they
don't know you, like how I know you or your
family and stuff like that. But to me, it felt
like I'm always going to stick to what's right and
what I leave its true, no matter if I know
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this person for ten years or I know this person
for two weeks three.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Weeks, right, which is obviously important. I think it's like again,
the basis of any friendship. And I do want to
clarify something because I already know that they're gonna get
mad at me.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I hear it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I see it about the TikTok band because I want
to go into it with you about Obviously, it was
a wake up call for like a lot of people,
a lot of creators that depend a lot on TikTok
and the creator fun. I'm not happy obviously that people
were losing their jobs. Technically, I do not want I
want to make that clear obviously someone that like, because
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then they're gonna be like, oh, you make a lot
of money and whatever. Like No, I already I already
know how it's gonna get. No, I don't. I'm not
happy about that, obviously, It's just in another perspective, and
in another world, it's like, I feel like TikTok is
the most toxic app that there is out there. So
in that sense, that's what I That's why I'm saying that.
But obviously you've had You've built a lot of your career,
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and obviously you know, you have your other job and
you do your stuff on the side. Was it a
wake up call and like was it like oh shit,
like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, definitely, it's just like that saying of like, don't
keep all your eggs in one basket. So to me,
if any think I woke up something in me like
a new challenge, because obviously I've been doing TikTok for
what it feels like two years now, and it just
kind of felt like repetitive, like oh, going live and TikTok.
So if anything, I was never like scared because I
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remember like Relita would always be like, bro, it's really
going away as it is, I'm his new source those
NBC Fox five like that he needs information on I'm
his source. So I'm like, bro, Like I genuinely think
it could go like there's a possibility, Like you know,
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at first it was you hear something and then they
were talking about the band like from last year that
was gonna happen, right right, So you know we thought
it was but.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Thought it wasn't gonna happen. Huh.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It did, And then I was never fearful, like I'm like, Okay,
it could happen, but I'm just sorry. It's a new challenge,
it's a new opportunity for me to and I just
found like that's what God put in my heart or
resonated a lot in my mind. It was like, all right,
I need to try to do something new. Maybe you two,
maybe streaming the case may be. And yeah, I mean
(22:24):
is that where you're I feel like what you were
saying is like you can like something and not like
everything about it. You know, I love TikTok, but is
there bad Hell yeah, there's a lot of stuff that
I don't like about it. And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
There, it's your favorite app. It's everybody. It's not mine. Yeah, exactly,
like it's it's a wishy washy But all my respects
to everybody that you know, yeah, make their money and
this is what they do. Go for it. Just have
a plan B because we really don't know I don't.
I truly don't believe that, Like you don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I always thinking about the people that would go like,
there's guys, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There's people that are live all.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Day all day.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm like those people, you guys are about to be
so bored.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
God, what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And then Instagram was already starting like their little monetization,
like with reels and stuff. It was like, damn, they're
really trying out here, or if not, they're all going
to snapchat.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Everybody's out there to snapchat. Is like there's a whole process.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Like TikTok, I feel like, is the app that it
was so easy to blow up on and then obviously
make money. Of course you can literally go on live
and be live twenty four hours, then you could probably
make good money.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah sure, I mean we've seen it didn't Okay. So
are you and Jackie still having your YouTube channel or not?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah? We do, Okay. The last time we film something,
it is it's hard because we're not with each other
all the time. Okay, that is the difficult part for sure.
The last time we filmed was a bit like a
month ago and we went to Big Beer with oh yeah,
But now I'm kind of like taking because the whole
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point of the channel was like to do stuff together.
But then if I wanted to do stuff by myself
do it, I could do it. And then she wanted
to do stuff, she could do it. So now I'm like,
all right, you know because sometimes, like at least with Jackie,
she's been doing it for so long, it's like templus. Yeah,
doing social media, there's like, you know, if we can film,
we can film. But to me, it's like I'm just starting. Yeah,
(24:26):
I'm so excited about you know, like creating, Yeah, creating, storytelling,
filmmaking and stuff like that. So I definitely want to
take advantage of that. And now we have this YouTube
channel and I tell them you don't film, I'm gonna film. Sorry,
I do have to have some videos lined up, and
you will be seeing me more on on YouTube and
than TikTok.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I feel like, there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
My passion for that is still there.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's good though. Honestly, today is also a very happy
day for Isaac because his Eagles are going to the
Super Bowl. I told he, I literally messaged him yesterday.
I said, if they lose, please just don't come because
he gets in the worst moods ever, like this is
a great day for him, So congratulations to you. Yes,
(25:14):
all right, he's over here trying to be fade right.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You know, you know, you know what pissses me off
to that people say they're like, oh, you're trying to
be bad Bunny. He's trying to be like me, gang,
I promise you every time I put some on is
not a coincidence. Like a couple of days after he's
wearing like the same type of liked that. I'm going,
my bro.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So do you think like she just has you like
you think he's like, oh, let me go made.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think it's a hate hate account.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
He's like, I think you're the hot No, no, no, no,
that's not it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The thing is that, like I've never said I look
like bad Bunny, people call me you dell too.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You're such cat because you've told me that this man
is a liar.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You guys, listen. The only thing that me and bad
Bunny having comments that were both pisces. Okay, when people
say a little like bad Bunny, I never said.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't think anybody has ever said you look like
bad Bunny, Jennica.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I can go to my comments right now.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Whoever commented that, delete it down. That you were not
what that man is six three, you're like half.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That we have the same physical stature. Okay, clearly I've
fall short in.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The tattoos are very simil though I will say, like
the little everything.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And I was getting that first. See That's what I'm saying.
It's like I'm not sure how he sees me or
someone sends my stuff as like inspo. But like I
started wearing like nice collar shirts like crop. Who started
wearing crops? Now? Everybody but I was doing it first.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay, Sorr, you're gonna go to Puerto Rico and tell him.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I want to are you?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They stayed?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There's no hat on my side. This like just tag me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know I do love you. We do love you
number one fans right here, right here, if.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You want me to come up on stage and I'm like,
oh my god, like the double games are together, you know,
like when Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But yeah, no, there's a doppel gager at the gym.
Though yes it looks like what's his name, Tony Stark
Robert Downey Jr. And you made a baby like together
and it was you just shorter. No, he's no, he's short,
but he's buff. He's like, who how buff? You would
want to be? Like? Buff? Like I have to.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Show you because I never seen anyone looks like me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
There's a lot of people that look like.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You look like me at the gym. You know, you guys,
are you know we want to talk about celebrities. Okay,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh, okay, all right, you guys, We're gonna go on
a quick break and we'll be right back with more. Isaac,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's just when you've like known someone this long and like,
like he said at the beginning, like we could pick
on each other all day long. The same thing about
you picking on whoever's feet told you're picking on is
the same way he would pick on my feet if
I didn't get a pedicure in the house in Isaac
would see me walk around, He's like, you better go
get those ugly ass dogs pick I.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Just hope you're not wearing sandals.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
My biggest hater, I swear to God. Yeah, all right,
so I think of well, meet it update. You know,
it's kind of needed. Obviously, I saw I saw Alan
I's podcast. You did amazing with Jackie. Obviously you talked
about everything, how you came here and what you're doing.
I want to know what is in Isaac's plan right now.
(28:58):
Obviously it's still the being of the year. What are
we doing? How's it like? How's the house situation? What
do we you know, are we Jackie moving us an?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Listen? I'm doing I'm doing a whole lot this year.
I'm doing the most this year. I'm doing the most.
I want to do literally everything that I possibly can,
all right, because I feel like one thing that that
I feel like God has just put in my heart
and that That's when I was having this conversation with
Jackie the other day and I'm like, I just can't
(29:37):
sleep at night because I just have all these ideas
of what I want to do. And I felt like
I left a lot on the plate last year of
what I could have possibly done and you know, maximizing
my potential. And I think as that I get older,
I realized, like how just time kind of passes by
(29:59):
and I'm like, wow, I remember being because being with Wlito,
it's like seeing how young he is and I can
remember like being his age and it felt like yesterday.
To be honest, I remember being twenty twenty one, and
you know, to fast forward six years later not being
twenty seven. I was like, damn, that time went.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
By fast, dude, We're going to be twenty eight this year.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, being twenty eight, listen, Okay. People make fun of
me obviously being a little the oldest one house and
all that, but I'm not afraid to be old or
like be older.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I know a lot of people like like around young
people are just growing up and just.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Saying in general like yeah, you know, people like obviously
my girl talks about like, oh my god, eventually I
would be thirty. And I don't feel like that, you know,
because to me, it's just like all right, I feel
like I'm going to be a lot more wiser, a
lot more richer, Like you know, I'm going to be
good when I'm there. I'm going to be happy. I
feel like everything that I'm doing right now is going
to create the life that i want to live when
(31:05):
i'm that age. So I don't really have a fear,
like if everybody has. But as far as like this year,
I want to do everything that I possibly can. I
want to take more risk, and I would say in
the aspect of like social media storytelling and I this
is also something I was telling Jackie in regards to that,
(31:26):
I'm like, I can't sleep. I just have this urge
to create, to storytell, And I told Hi, I'm like,
one thing that I feel that God has put like
a gift to me is to see the good in others.
And I want to tell, you know, other people's stories.
You know, I want to create, whether if it's through
(31:47):
a podcast or not. I wouldn't say like a podcast
like format, but like through video, through storytelling and tell
that person's story and show the good that they have,
because I feel like that's something that I'm just able
to do and I'm able to see someone and be like, Yo,
you're this, you're that, And you know. That's many conversations
that I have, either with Jackie or Relite. I'm like, yo, bro,
I think you should have this person on stream, or
(32:09):
you should do this with that person because they're funny
or because of that, or I think it'll be good
some type of encouragement. Yeah. So I think in regards
to that, that's something that you guys will see more
from me, is you know just filming, telling stories a
lot more on YouTube. As I was saying before, TikTok,
(32:29):
just everything that I can do, whether it's streaming, and
I just want to be able to maximize his time
and just to be able at the end of the day,
whether if it's ten five years from I just be like, yo,
I took advantage of that time. I made the most
out of it. And if it went good, it went good.
If it didn't, it didn't as long as I'm able
to say.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Which is funny, not funny that you say, but not
like when you were talking about it. I remember, like
when you first moved over here, you were so depressed,
like and you had no idea what the hell you
were going to do. Like so saying that you stay
up at night now having a vision and having these
(33:10):
like creative ideas is such a shift to what you
were who you were when you got here. Yeah, and
it's like now it's like okay, because you would be
freaking out. You would freak out about like what am
I going to do? Like this, this and that, Like
you had no idea, and it's like now like not
that you have a plan because it's obviously, but you
have more vision, you have the drive to like, you know,
(33:33):
to do these YouTube videos or whatever it is, the
twitch and all that, like, and I'm just happy. I'm
happy and I'm very proud friend because I've seen him
come a very long way and a personal aspect.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And can I tell you something that you know, it's
like I still worry.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Of course, I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Still have those moments w FRO. I'm like, I don't
know how I'm going to do this. I don't know
if I'll even take off or if I'll even be
this person that I see myself like in my visions.
And that kind of like plays into that, like to
staying up at night. I just say that because it's
just like, yeah, at one point, it's kind of like
as you grow, the things you worry about are different, right,
(34:19):
you know.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But the difference is that at that time you were
scared to take risk, yeah, and I now that you're not, like,
you have a lot of risks that you want to take, yeah,
and you're like whichever one boom like goes so. And
even to get from there to where you're at now
is like a huge sign of growth because it takes
(34:40):
a lot for a person to come out of that
type of mentality too, like like okay, like because a
lot of people are scared of failure, and I feel
like that's the like you have to take the risk
and if you fail, you fail, and that's fine. But
if you don't know, if you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Don't try, that's that's the thing. You just don't know.
You don't know, you don't know if like even and
that's why you just have to get through that mental
block and whatever you do in life. Right Like when
I would say in my relationship, when I was driving
fucking three hours just to go to see Jackie. To me,
when I met her, it was like, wow, I love this.
(35:17):
I love the way she makes me feel. And it
makes absolutely no sense. Even where I was at, like
in my career doing social media, it made no sense
to get in a relationship unless it was gonna be
one of those like fake relationships that people do. But
to me, it was like, I just know, this is
something that I just have to do and I would
hate And this time I always told Jackie till like
(35:39):
the thought of not knowing overcomes my fear every time.
So what if of like what if it does amazing?
You know, whatever this goes well will always be my
But damn, what if it always goes bad? This literally
is the worst decision I ever make. It's like I
have to.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Know, But that's just us as humans though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's but some people are like, I'm too scared to
do it. I don't want to do it. Yeah, And
you just have to get through that mental block. So
whe if it's a relationship or you want to post
on social media, or like you know, you want to
do something in your career, go to school, quote your job,
start a business, you just have to get through that
mental block of like, damn, what if it goes back?
(36:19):
But what if it goes amazing? What if it is
the best decision you ever made. To me, it was
like I always go back to Thank god, I fucking
moved out of Miami. I moved in with you. Thank God, I,
you know, just took that d because if I hadn't,
I'll be fucking miserable over.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There, be sitting on a computer talking to what's.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Working nine to five? Bro, Not that there's anything wrong,
but to me, I would just that was just not
for me. I just could not do that. I was
rotting in my old life because I just knew the
things that like that I aspired for. We're just not there,
right and now you're here. Yeah, and we're now on
(36:59):
this big amazing you have a beautiful house.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Thanks, this is okay. You guys want to know this
is Isaac's first time in my actual house.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
She had tried to say, all, this could have been
your room, you know, Damn well, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Was showing the house. I was just like, yeah, that
could have been your room, but it's not. No, But
I do want to tell you, if you know, anytime,
my doors are always open, my heart is always open
for you. Yeah, I'm always going to be willing to.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Like.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I don't know, just be there for you and every
aspect in every way, even if I'm not there, Like
you know, I just want to know that you have
somebody here that still loves you and still cares for
you and believes in you and ways like that nobody
can understand, like and the same way with me, Like
you don't you know me in ways that a lot
of people don't understand and I appreciate. And I think
(37:58):
there's just been a lot of growth, even in your
personal relationships, but more specifically obviously in our friendship here, like,
I'm grateful for what happened, and I'm grateful that we
were able to you know, be grown.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, because I think the way it see is like
now that we've been through that, a situation like that
where we kind of like separated ways, where you had
your faults, I had my faults, It's like now we
know something like that will never happen exactly. You know,
it's something that you kind of grow through, you learn
and you move on communication exactly. And also like, hey,
if something happens right, you know, I'll talk to Wilito
(38:34):
and you know, you can we have a room for.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
You to you know what, Honestly, I'm okay where I'm
at in my corner.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Hey, you know I'll put it in a good way
then you know, we can make it happen. We'll put
a spot.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Look, I think we should Yeah, I think that Wlito
also should be Uh. I guess we gotta yeah in
case everybody's asking no, But honestly, I would love to.
I feel like again like I'm in a space and
maybe a lot of people don't can't recognize it or
see it because they don't know me, But I am
in a space of like I just want to like
(39:12):
clean slate, like wish well for everybody. I'm the last
person to wish mad mal intent on anybody. I love
and care for everyone, and I would do it all
over again for you and because of what the loves
that I received from you. And you know, I'm not
just happy. You know, I can like talk to you about, like,
(39:32):
you know, my problems since.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, exactly what relationships for you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Here he goes, because our last podcast was about what
was it? We were talking about something about dating guys
and dating or whatever. Yeah, you know what, as I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Older, recap for last year.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Last year, we're all my dating recap, dating all right,
So I probably went on about like three dates. No,
yeah dates. One was the first, one was the first date,
he got, two second dates, three got my number. But
(40:10):
this year's yeah, there's nobody ever me through friends. Yeah,
but that doesn't matter anymore. No. I did do a
dating apps, but I was just I was just there
and this is not it. I don't I don't recommend it.
I mean, if it's where you go for it, do
you feel.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Like meeting someone through mutual is the best?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
No? No, no, no, no, no, I don't I mean,
it could be a way, but I also feel like,
because there's that middle person, that person could always be
that middle person that like, I mean, unless they're grown, grown,
I know how to communicate. But I feel like because
I had that experience that that person wasn't like emotionally
(40:49):
available or like mature, that it was always that going
to communicate through that middle person, And probably on my
part too, because like I'm obviously gonna go and cheeve
me out into them, like what the fuck's happening? Yeah,
but I do think it takes a lot of emotional
maturity to like separate the two. But dating wise, I
think this year, I'm just I'm over people that are
(41:13):
younger than me. I do need a lot older than me. Yes,
I can't, Isaac.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
How old were these guys on this?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I dated twenty six? Okay, I'm twenty seven. I'm twenty seven, right,
I'm when it turned twenty eight, So twenty seven twenty six,
and that was pretty much it twenty seven twenty six.
But now, oh, I can't give you all that infor now.
What you mean, I'll tell you off camera anyways. But no, honestly,
(41:42):
I'm kind of just I'm taking it easy, and maybe
I think my problem is and I realized that yesterdays
that I overly communicate how I'm feeling, and I think
that can come off as like, okay, like I share,
Like if I don't like something, I say I don't.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Like it, like and the reason why.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, and then like that person, Okay, great, you got
it there. Then something else happens that I that bothers me,
not necessarily that I don't like, but I express it.
And this is like talking stage though. So I think
I overly communicate and it scares people off or they're.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Just not say like, okay, well go on the first day,
and then you tell me, oh, I don't or no,
say it because it talking. Okay, so look, give me
an example. I'm trying to say an example. Okay, right now.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You know what really bothers me is that when someone
watches my stories or replies to my stories but won't
reply to my text first.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Ah, okay, okay, okay, so you tell them, hey, I
don't like the fact that you watched my story but
you didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yes, that is one of my like, okay, that's something
I don't like. I feel like whatever. Okay, cool, there's that,
but then it's also like another forms of communication, like
I get that you don't have to talk every day
every day.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
No, no, but hold on, I want to go back
to this over community so communicating. So you said you
tell them, hey, I don't like that, you replied to myself,
but don't text me. So where do you go from there?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Do you over?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay, I'm sorry? Okay, that person says, I'm sorry. Okay,
this is like you know, I'm sorry, Like it wasn't
like that, Okay, cool, Yeah, Like I'm letting you know
that I don't like it, so let's not let it
happen again.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But then another thing happens where it's like, oh, you
didn't text me for like a lot of the day
A lot of the day, yes, exactly, which I still
don't feel like anyone is too busy like or doesn't
(43:45):
look at their phone. That's the ship that bothers me,
the excuse that I wasn't on my phone. No, like
you have like be for real. But you know what
I'm just gonna I've expressed it how I don't like
feeling because I think my thing is is that I
(44:06):
just I don't like feeling ignored, especially as if I'm
like if the line is like we've already shared our
intentions in dating. You already know what I want. I
know what you want. Like we're kind of on the
same page. So and when you're kind of just like
a little bit ghost, you're acting a little weird.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Listen, I relate to that because I think there's some
me and you share is like the moment you make
us feel like not important or insignificant, it's like I.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bet exactly, I bet, thank you you see he gets me.
It's because it's like I could play I could play
the game. I'll play the game too, But what was
told to me before is it what's happening now? So
like so we're switching up all right, cool, like I
got it.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
So then when you communicated that.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I communicated that, and then it comes off as like
everything is kind of like a little bit judging or okay,
like I'm probably like like they get scared. I'm I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know, and I
try to do like healthy communication because you already know,
like I'm used to hiding or like keeping things to
myself and now that I'm just like especially in a relationship.
(45:14):
I feel like it's super essential to have that, like, hey, like, yeah,
let's this is what I like and what I don't like.
If this is something that you're not going to fuck
with or that you can't get passed or can't handle,
and let me know, yeah, because this is what like,
this is the type and certain communication that I need.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
And then can I give you some hope?
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Tell me, all right, some hope for you you will
find that person that is understanding of how you are,
of course, because like when you want to be with somebody,
you'll look over past their flaws, their imperfections because you're like, hey,
you know what, a life is better with them than
without them. And I feel like that's that's my I
(45:58):
would say my reason as to why me and Jackie
last or have been together for you know, a year,
it's not that we've had a perfect relationship. It's more
of like we've had we've shown our nakedness, our perfection,
our truths are bad, are past, and it's a like, hey,
(46:20):
in spite of all of that, in spite of you know,
her immaturities, the things that she has fallen short as
to me, it's like, hey, I still want to stay.
I still want to work it out because life is
better with you than without you. So you will find
that person that will deal with your over communicating and
(46:41):
learn together and grow together, because that's the whole point.
And it's like I feel like dating now it's like
either you come perfect or this ain't it.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Sadly, yeah, I think more for me too, because I
just I feel like I've been just been through too much,
Like I don't have time to be like going back
and forth. Like if you got problems, like I get it,
like it's having you know, your little issues are fine, Yeah,
but if you haven't like worked through them, or like
if you're not at like a certain point, like I'm sorry,
(47:14):
but you're not cut for it. Yeah you know, but
you know, we're gonna see how it goes. I'm hopeful
this year.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
And I'll say this and then we can move on
to the next thing. But it's like we live in
a generation of like in the past, people broke things
and they fixed it. Now things are broken and then
we replace it with new things.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah. So yeah, but I can't be a fixer and that's.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
My problem for sure, for sure. But it's obviously two
people coming together. And that's where you need to make
a decision on whether things, Hey, I can deal with
this or you can't be cause you have to have
some so self awareness as like I can't deal with this,
Like this is just too much. I got to step away.
You know, I agree, you.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Know what, honestly in your list of dreams and risk
in your little podcast or twitch or whatever, I think
you should do like hotlines of like dating, Yeah, we can, we.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Can go, we can do yeah a stream where and
then people call in, Yeah, I just gotta get a
new number.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Please do you invite me?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Please?
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I'll give the girl perspective, you guys like guy perspective.
That's cool, that'll be cool, all right, you guys. No,
but I really appreciate you coming out here and welcoming
you into my home. I appreciate obviously you having that
communication with me and putting our relationship first before anything.
(48:38):
And I love you and I love everything that you're
doing again, so very proud. Please share your socials, share,
you know, if everybody wants to catch up and see
what he's doing, and you know his little leprechaun as,
just keep watching him and just everything. He's just great. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Anyways, when you're not watching Jenica and her tiktoks or
her podcast, you can find me on TikTok and on Twitch.
Isaac made you look. And then if you want to
watch a long form video of me and my friends
or you know what's coming up, and you can find
me on jay and I've logs Jays and Jackie and
(49:20):
I as an Isaac okay on YouTube. I promise you
more video. I'm gonna have Jenica on a video too,
so you're gonna see me and Jenica do more content.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Oh my gosh, you guys were back. That's like you
give people the reasons.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I troll so much.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
It is what it is, all right, you guys. Thank
you so much for watching and listening to this episode.
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(50:28):
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Welcome back to the Overcome for podcast. I'm your host,
Jena Kalpez. Thank you guys so much for joining today's episode.
If you guys have seen the title, then you guys
already know who is here. But before I introduce him,
I do want to remind you guys and bring awareness
also to everything that's going on in the world. We
(00:27):
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that all here. Please, please please be kind to one another,
and without further ado, we have the one and only,
for the third time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Run it back.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Isaac Rodriguez. All right, you guys, I think I think
this is a surprise too many. Let's just say, I
think we're just gonna say how it is. It is
a surprise too many, because I I think everybody kind
of knows, like, you know, we had a little break,
(01:18):
little moment, you know, we did we grew we you know,
he has his own life. I have mine a lack
of the better words. We you know, we've parted ways
for a bit, yeah, just for healthy reasons, I would say,
simpler in simpler terms. Yeah, and we're here now we're friends, yeah,
(01:41):
because not that it gets awkward, but it's just like
now that we're past that part, it's like, all right,
you guys. You know, this is like getting back with
the toxic eggs, like like this is like well being friends,
like as an adults.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
They just kind of looks like, you.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Know, which is what I want to talk about, and
kind of like just kind of walk people through obviously,
you know, there's things that had happened, there's things that
everybody kind of knows about, and especially like the TikTok
world and you know, all my favorite people are on
there and just and we love all of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They're just great. I love all the little TikTokers and
referring to the people in.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
The chat, you know, Okay, okay, well I think we should.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think just I'm honesty, I'm gonna let you drive.
I'm your passenger, princess, I'm go and wherever you go.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Isaak loves being the Princess Jackie. I'm just kidding, No, honestly, okay,
I think that I don't even okay, I wanted to
keep it between about me and you. Obviously there's obviously,
like other factors that played into it, and like you know,
(03:03):
I genuinely believe that there was just a lot, a
lot going on that obviously poured into our friendship, which
obviously sucked. Yeah, and I think I'll take accountability and
acknowledge the parts that you know, I obviously took a
step back and did what I had to do for
(03:24):
my own peace of mind and whatever, and always praying
and hoping for the best because at the end of
the day, like we did live together, like we like,
the Isaac that you guys know is not the Isaac
that I know. So I think that's why it hurt
me more like what was going on and like how
it turned things turned out to be because the guy, yeah,
(03:47):
like Isaac, you guys see, it is obviously a different Isaac.
It's a new and better Isaac. It's you know, he grew.
But in my head and in my heart, it was
always that guy that you know, my guy, best friend,
the one that lived with me like we had hookah
and I it's like we would. He was there for
my anxiety attacks, like he was there for a lot
of things. So losing that part of me and losing you,
(04:07):
and like I never had a best guy straight friend.
I have gay friends, but questionable. I'm just kidding, just kidding, Okay,
I'm sorry, you know this is this is why I
brought him guys. No, I'm just kidding. No, but he
was and is my my best guy friend. Like he
(04:29):
was the one that I ran to and I feel
like we have we have and had had a connection
that like not many people can like understand and you
understand me, and I understand you for sure. But I
do want to tell you publicly also because you also
did something for me publicly, and I think it would
be fair if I did the same thing in return, obviously. Okay, yeah,
(04:55):
I'm just gonna say it for orders his unbrowns person
I out here anymore that live. Remember I messaged you
about the life that Wilito had with the therapist and
then everybody in the Waka house was there and like
everyone kind of just shitted on me, and like everything,
I do want to say that Isaac was also the
only person and maybe a couple I want to say
(05:16):
shoddy a couple times also did clear out and defending me.
And because a lot of that shit wasn't true and
it's still not true about who I am or who
my family is, or that I stole or that I
put seasoned desist or this, this and that, or that
I was just an evil person. I Isaac was one
(05:40):
of the main people that came out and also defended
me and my family. So I wanted to say thank you,
and I appreciate that because you didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And like to preface that, it's also like at that
time we weren't talking at all. So I did that
because I genuinely knew the truth and I knew that
it wasn't fair for you guys to be kind of
like a casualty of war at the time when I
really felt like you guys really had nothing to do
(06:11):
with it, very like was the right thing.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
To do, right, And Isaac, obviously, I mean, you know,
you were there, You've been around my family, you've been
around me, and obviously you lived with me, so yeah,
it's like you know firsthand, but I did want it
to It's just that was in my mental knowledge, I
do want to publish per safe, thank you no, because
it was it was a pivotal because you know what,
and I think you could agree to this, like TikTok
(06:35):
is no joke. Everybody, like I'm sorry. Maybe I'm the
only person that was really happy that it was gonna
get banned, and I know that stucks to say, but
like I know, but I know I thought, no, bro,
I know that's why because I thought about you. I'm like,
the damn Isaac makes money from here, like a lot
of people do mem which you know sucks. But I
(06:55):
was also like I cannot wait till everybody's a kind
person again, Like there's so many like hateful people on
there and the hate that I was receiving, and I'm
sure that you were too about just things and you
get to this day and the shit that I get
to this day. It felt good knowing that, like damn,
like okay, yeah, it's over now, it's over now, and
(07:15):
like he knew and like it it lifted something obviously
that still didn't end.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, It's crazy because like when that happened, I was
with Jackie and San Diego and then it was like
a moment where you couldn't like it just went black.
I was sitting there, I was just like, damn, Like
everything that I like thought was so like as far
as like opinions and what people thought about me and
stuff like, I'm like it's over, Like I can't see
(07:41):
what they say about me anymore. It's it's legit disappeared. No,
it was like a pressure or not like a pressure.
Don't feel pressure to do it or like it just
felt like everything that because at one point it was
something that you know, things that you're involved in, like
drama and stuff like that. When you're in it, it
does like it stays in your mind and then for
(08:03):
it to just kind of like disappears, like oh it
really doesn't matter, you know, like people think of you
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, And I think that's like, but that's the thing
when it's when it's your living, you constantly have to
be there looking at it, and it's like, fuck, like
this is my living. I don't want people to think
this about me. Yeah, how am I going to fix
it or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because she's like, yo, I use TikTok obviously I post
and you know, I go live. You know, people clip
stuff or whatever. But I used ticktok to laugh and
have a good time, bro, and I love TikTok, Like, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You're looking cookie recipes like dam.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I used to out to fix my fucking my battery
or some bullshit or like cooking stuff too, and then brom,
you know it. It was like a bitter sweet relationship.
I love hate relationship because obviously you're able to make
money or you're able to you need it. You know,
it's upon social media, but yeah, there is like when
you are involved in it, there's I go badass, Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I had to change my algorithm, like I had have
you gone in there and done the refresher for you page? Bro?
I had to like, and I'll say it loud and clear.
I was like, and I've even told you too, Like
I had to like unfollow and do whatever I had
to do because I didn't want to see nothing. Like
it was such a bad energy or type of like
(09:21):
toxicity that I just didn't feel like was healthy for me.
And you know, like I battled with anxiety and like
you know, I've been in this for a while, so
just like I don't want any bad anything, like I
wish everybody well and I've even told you that too,
and I even told Jackie too, because Jackie has reached
out to me and you know she's she's dope and
cool and love and respect to Jackie. I don't know
(09:41):
how you put up with it, but you know you
do because I wonder. I'm like, damn, like I know,
I've lived with that man.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like, yeah, Jackie, she's a keyper, she's a good one.
She loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How's it going? I want to know?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, I would say, you know, just like any other relationship.
We have our our discussions, as we'd like to call them,
our heated debates. But no, I think she's a special person.
And it's crazy like when TikTok was always like damn,
I really met you because of this app technic. Yeah,
you know, like all this trenks are because I started,
(10:23):
you know, filming, I met certain people and then that
brought me to you. But it does feel like like
a one of a kind person you meet I love
so much, and uh, you know we're going strong and.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What is it a year and something?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's like a year. We're going into February, so like
a year in like three months.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, imagine you forgot.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
TikTok.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, you guys, we're going to go on a
quick break and we'll be right back with more Isaac.
Welcome back, you guys. And it was so funny because
you and I to go to the same exact gym,
and the times we would just like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Run into each other, You're like, it's like, it's like
very complicated because I felt like my issue there were
things that I was upset about with you, but I
felt like my real frustration or anger was never directly
(11:25):
towards you, you know, And that sucked because it was
just kind of, like as I said before, it was
like you were a casualty of another friendship that I
had and you were kind of like stuck in the middle.
And it just kind of felt like, well, I have
to let go of that for sure, and you were
in the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And I think that's what is important about also having
individualism and separating relationships and having that open communication. And
I just literally got to a point one day whereas
like I saw you at the gym, I'm like, I'm
tired of this. I'm so done. I was like, Isaac,
let's talk, Like let's let's literally let's talk. I don't
(12:03):
even know how many months it was that we weren't
talking about. I was just like, you know what, like,
let's just clear it up for the sake, because you're
a good person. You're a good friend, and I love you,
and like I love the growth and I love to
see the things that you're doing, and it would suck
for me. It's like, damn, like these are things that
he dreamed of while he was living with me, and
that I wish that I was a part of.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I'm not saying it like out of jealousy or whatever.
I like, I'm so proud of you and everything that
you've done and that you continue to do and you know,
you're still grinding and whatever the case may be. I
just knew that for my my heart, like and for
my friendships and this new space that I was going
into that I was like, you know what, like I
(12:45):
need to I don't want to just end something that
was so good like that, you know, And I think
that's important in friendships is having that open communication and
just being straight up, especially with someone that you live
with or some of that you're just super you're super
close with that knows everything about your life, yeah, you know,
and like I don't know, I don't know if you
want to speak into that about you know, communicating and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think that's something kind of like what I said
in the beginning, friendships kind of like changed throughout the
stages of your life, which is normal, Which is normal.
It just kind of happens like as you grow older.
And that's to say that I'm old man, because that's
another thing people say.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No but old no, no, but we're not twenty one,
we're not nineteen, and like you're changing exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So it's like you get into relationships or you know,
certain situations happened to where it's just like each situation
is different. But I think as I grew older, to me,
something that I felt like I developed a lot more
was a lot of empathy and understanding. So like even
when you told me like hey, I'm gonna follow you,
(13:55):
or hey I gotta do this, like okay, Like if
that's something that you need to do for your own
sake and your own mental health, then like I understand,
I get it, you know, even if I don't understand it, Like, hey,
if that's what you need, I want what's best for
you and I feel like that's what I try to
do with all my I would say genuine friendships is
(14:17):
like or anyone that I approachess I feel like I
have a relationship with is like, hey, my foundation was
with you? Is I care for you, I love you,
I want the best for you. So whether if I
understand it or don't understand it, whatever you got to do,
if that's what it's best for you, then okay, like
it is what it is. And I think when I
feel like now we're just kind of like talking about
(14:38):
like mending relationships. And even if you were to have
like let's say differences, or you have some sort of
I don't know, misunderstanding certain situations to happen, I think
it's just all goes back to your foundation. If you
love this person, you care for them, you want what's
best for them, then someone has to put their pride
(14:58):
down exactly. Someone has to go up to the other person.
And even if you feel like it's your fall or
it isn't your fall, or you know, whatever happened happened,
if you're willing and you care for that person, it's
just like, hey, I'm messed up, I'm sorry. What can
we do? Let's talk. And I feel like that was
a good sign, like for you, it's coming to me
that I was like, Okay, that takes a real person
(15:19):
to be like, hey, I don't give a fuck, well
how I look like, because I'm pretty sure up to
those moments, you're just like, bro, I'm gonna look like
an idiot. He doesn't want to talk to me, like,
of course, well this and X, Y and Z about
this situation. But to me, it was just like wow,
like that's real from her. She really does care for me,
because someone who really did it doesn't give a fuck
and would just like go on about their life of course.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And I think now it's like respecting each other's boundaries
as well, like whatever it is like in your friendship
or in this case, like certain people or certain things
that might be said or whatever. And I think it's
obviously like how you said, going back to the foundation
and going back to the base, Like to me, it's
always going to be like me, you just the days,
(16:02):
like that's all that's my picture, that's my idea. That's
always going to be what it is because that's who
I know, who you are versus obviously like TikTok and
ill you know, I don't know, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's like the whole thing about TikTok is that they
get a perspective of thirty seconds, yes minute clip, and
you form an opinion of us.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They have your whole life plan. They know this, You're.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The worst person, Satan's son. I mean that seriously, Like
they draw their conclusion about you from two minutes of
a clip, and I understand, like there's an aspect to
it towards like you know, they're they have no other
thing to draw from except you see online. Absolutely, you know,
(16:56):
even I got clipped the other day. Oh my god.
So I was my frustration, Like, I have absolutely no hate.
I have no offense to anybody that I've collaborated with,
that hung out with. Like a to each their own.
I may have a different opinion on certain things, but
I don't hate any creator or anything like that that
(17:18):
I like, I have nothing but good to say about everybody. Okay,
but I realized, I'm like, my frustration is with the
comments people in the chat, because you guys say things
that I'm like, that's fucking insane for you to say.
That's crazy. So then I started to roast the chat
(17:39):
and I said, oh, that's why you magic, because you're
and I started to make fun of their toes and
shit like that, I say, your toes throwing gang signs
and you know. So and like people don't know about
me or I feel like I think by now they
(18:00):
would catch up, but they don't. I'm very sarcastic, like, yeah,
that is the number one. That's how I kind of
like show my love towards people. It's like once I
can started like kind of teasing you and picking at you,
like that's my love language of like, hey, you're my friend,
you're in my inner circle. Like you, I can pick
at you, you can pick at me. And we go
back and forth, and they clipped it in a certain
(18:22):
way and they're like, oh, Isaiah's about this right right,
and oh my god, like I was getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, because it's just what that clip is, yeah exactly,
Like there's no they don't see the context or whatever.
They weren't on the live or yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So it's just it's crazy because you know, people will
just form an opinion about you in the thirty seconds
two minutes or you know, sometimes people just say things
that just aren't simply true, all right, and then they
people just run with it and you're just kind of
like a bystander of that and they don't really see,
like going back to what you were saying, it's like
they don't really know or see, like, hey, the things
(18:59):
that you've done for me, the things that like I've
done for you, things that you've done for other people
online and stuff like that, and you know, that's that's
why I lie to us. It's I feel like it's
always easy to just be like, hey, like let's let's
cut the bullshit, let's let's try to work things out.
Like you're a person that is not prideful, that is humble,
(19:19):
because I think, if anything, what had drawn me to
you and our friendship it was like, well like despite
you having all these things, like you were always simply humble,
you're always simply a person of just like, hey, I
want to help you out, which is you know the
reason why I'm here today. And you know some people
know that, some people don't, but you know, those are
(19:41):
things that like I will always stand for what's right
and what's true. So that's why in that moment when
they were saying certain things to me, it was like,
not like I know how this person is. I know
it may look like a certain thing and because they
don't know you, like how I know you or your
family and stuff like that. But to me, it felt
like I'm always going to stick to what's right and
what I leave its true, no matter if I know
(20:02):
this person for ten years or I know this person
for two weeks three.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Weeks, right, which is obviously important. I think it's like again,
the basis of any friendship. And I do want to
clarify something because I already know that they're gonna get
mad at me.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I hear it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I see it about the TikTok band because I want
to go into it with you about Obviously, it was
a wake up call for like a lot of people,
a lot of creators that depend a lot on TikTok
and the creator fun. I'm not happy obviously that people
were losing their jobs. Technically, I do not want I
want to make that clear obviously someone that like, because
(20:37):
then they're gonna be like, oh, you make a lot
of money and whatever. Like No, I already I already
know how it's gonna get. No, I don't. I'm not
happy about that, obviously, It's just in another perspective, and
in another world, it's like, I feel like TikTok is
the most toxic app that there is out there. So
in that sense, that's what I That's why I'm saying that.
But obviously you've had You've built a lot of your career,
(21:00):
and obviously you know, you have your other job and
you do your stuff on the side. Was it a
wake up call and like was it like oh shit,
like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, definitely, it's just like that saying of like, don't
keep all your eggs in one basket. So to me,
if any think I woke up something in me like
a new challenge, because obviously I've been doing TikTok for
what it feels like two years now, and it just
kind of felt like repetitive, like oh, going live and TikTok.
So if anything, I was never like scared because I
(21:30):
remember like Relita would always be like, bro, it's really
going away as it is, I'm his new source those
NBC Fox five like that he needs information on I'm
his source. So I'm like, bro, Like I genuinely think
it could go like there's a possibility, Like you know,
(21:51):
at first it was you hear something and then they
were talking about the band like from last year that
was gonna happen, right right, So you know we thought
it was but.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Thought it wasn't gonna happen. Huh.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It did, And then I was never fearful, like I'm like, Okay,
it could happen, but I'm just sorry. It's a new challenge,
it's a new opportunity for me to and I just
found like that's what God put in my heart or
resonated a lot in my mind. It was like, all right,
I need to try to do something new. Maybe you two,
maybe streaming the case may be. And yeah, I mean
(22:24):
is that where you're I feel like what you were
saying is like you can like something and not like
everything about it. You know, I love TikTok, but is
there bad Hell yeah, there's a lot of stuff that
I don't like about it. And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
There, it's your favorite app. It's everybody. It's not mine. Yeah, exactly,
like it's it's a wishy washy But all my respects
to everybody that you know, yeah, make their money and
this is what they do. Go for it. Just have
a plan B because we really don't know I don't.
I truly don't believe that, Like you don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I always thinking about the people that would go like,
there's guys, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There's people that are live all.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Day all day.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm like those people, you guys are about to be
so bored.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
God, what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And then Instagram was already starting like their little monetization,
like with reels and stuff. It was like, damn, they're
really trying out here, or if not, they're all going
to snapchat.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Everybody's out there to snapchat. Is like there's a whole process.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Like TikTok, I feel like, is the app that it
was so easy to blow up on and then obviously
make money. Of course you can literally go on live
and be live twenty four hours, then you could probably
make good money.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah sure, I mean we've seen it didn't Okay. So
are you and Jackie still having your YouTube channel or not?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah? We do, Okay. The last time we film something,
it is it's hard because we're not with each other
all the time. Okay, that is the difficult part for sure.
The last time we filmed was a bit like a
month ago and we went to Big Beer with oh yeah,
But now I'm kind of like taking because the whole
(24:04):
point of the channel was like to do stuff together.
But then if I wanted to do stuff by myself
do it, I could do it. And then she wanted
to do stuff, she could do it. So now I'm like,
all right, you know because sometimes, like at least with Jackie,
she's been doing it for so long, it's like templus. Yeah,
doing social media, there's like, you know, if we can film,
we can film. But to me, it's like I'm just starting. Yeah,
(24:26):
I'm so excited about you know, like creating, Yeah, creating, storytelling,
filmmaking and stuff like that. So I definitely want to
take advantage of that. And now we have this YouTube
channel and I tell them you don't film, I'm gonna film. Sorry,
I do have to have some videos lined up, and
you will be seeing me more on on YouTube and
than TikTok.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I feel like, there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
My passion for that is still there.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's good though. Honestly, today is also a very happy
day for Isaac because his Eagles are going to the
Super Bowl. I told he, I literally messaged him yesterday.
I said, if they lose, please just don't come because
he gets in the worst moods ever, like this is
a great day for him, So congratulations to you. Yes,
(25:14):
all right, he's over here trying to be fade right.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You know, you know, you know what pissses me off
to that people say they're like, oh, you're trying to
be bad Bunny. He's trying to be like me, gang,
I promise you every time I put some on is
not a coincidence. Like a couple of days after he's
wearing like the same type of liked that. I'm going,
my bro.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So do you think like she just has you like
you think he's like, oh, let me go made.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think it's a hate hate account.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
He's like, I think you're the hot No, no, no, no,
that's not it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The thing is that, like I've never said I look
like bad Bunny, people call me you dell too.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You're such cat because you've told me that this man
is a liar.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You guys, listen. The only thing that me and bad
Bunny having comments that were both pisces. Okay, when people
say a little like bad Bunny, I never said.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't think anybody has ever said you look like
bad Bunny, Jennica.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I can go to my comments right now.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Whoever commented that, delete it down. That you were not
what that man is six three, you're like half.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That we have the same physical stature. Okay, clearly I've
fall short in.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The tattoos are very simil though I will say, like
the little everything.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And I was getting that first. See That's what I'm saying.
It's like I'm not sure how he sees me or
someone sends my stuff as like inspo. But like I
started wearing like nice collar shirts like crop. Who started
wearing crops? Now? Everybody but I was doing it first.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay, Sorr, you're gonna go to Puerto Rico and tell him.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I want to are you?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They stayed?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There's no hat on my side. This like just tag me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know I do love you. We do love you
number one fans right here, right here, if.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You want me to come up on stage and I'm like,
oh my god, like the double games are together, you know,
like when Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But yeah, no, there's a doppel gager at the gym.
Though yes it looks like what's his name, Tony Stark
Robert Downey Jr. And you made a baby like together
and it was you just shorter. No, he's no, he's short,
but he's buff. He's like, who how buff? You would
want to be? Like? Buff? Like I have to.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Show you because I never seen anyone looks like me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
There's a lot of people that look like.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You look like me at the gym. You know, you guys,
are you know we want to talk about celebrities. Okay,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh, okay, all right, you guys, We're gonna go on
a quick break and we'll be right back with more. Isaac,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's just when you've like known someone this long and like,
like he said at the beginning, like we could pick
on each other all day long. The same thing about
you picking on whoever's feet told you're picking on is
the same way he would pick on my feet if
I didn't get a pedicure in the house in Isaac
would see me walk around, He's like, you better go
get those ugly ass dogs pick I.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Just hope you're not wearing sandals.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
My biggest hater, I swear to God. Yeah, all right,
so I think of well, meet it update. You know,
it's kind of needed. Obviously, I saw I saw Alan
I's podcast. You did amazing with Jackie. Obviously you talked
about everything, how you came here and what you're doing.
I want to know what is in Isaac's plan right now.
(28:58):
Obviously it's still the being of the year. What are
we doing? How's it like? How's the house situation? What
do we you know, are we Jackie moving us an?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Listen? I'm doing I'm doing a whole lot this year.
I'm doing the most this year. I'm doing the most.
I want to do literally everything that I possibly can,
all right, because I feel like one thing that that
I feel like God has just put in my heart
and that That's when I was having this conversation with
Jackie the other day and I'm like, I just can't
(29:37):
sleep at night because I just have all these ideas
of what I want to do. And I felt like
I left a lot on the plate last year of
what I could have possibly done and you know, maximizing
my potential. And I think as that I get older,
I realized, like how just time kind of passes by
(29:59):
and I'm like, wow, I remember being because being with Wlito,
it's like seeing how young he is and I can
remember like being his age and it felt like yesterday.
To be honest, I remember being twenty twenty one, and
you know, to fast forward six years later not being
twenty seven. I was like, damn, that time went.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
By fast, dude, We're going to be twenty eight this year.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, being twenty eight, listen, Okay. People make fun of
me obviously being a little the oldest one house and
all that, but I'm not afraid to be old or
like be older.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I know a lot of people like like around young
people are just growing up and just.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Saying in general like yeah, you know, people like obviously
my girl talks about like, oh my god, eventually I
would be thirty. And I don't feel like that, you know,
because to me, it's just like all right, I feel
like I'm going to be a lot more wiser, a
lot more richer, Like you know, I'm going to be
good when I'm there. I'm going to be happy. I
feel like everything that I'm doing right now is going
to create the life that i want to live when
(31:05):
i'm that age. So I don't really have a fear,
like if everybody has. But as far as like this year,
I want to do everything that I possibly can. I
want to take more risk, and I would say in
the aspect of like social media storytelling and I this
is also something I was telling Jackie in regards to that,
(31:26):
I'm like, I can't sleep. I just have this urge
to create, to storytell, And I told Hi, I'm like,
one thing that I feel that God has put like
a gift to me is to see the good in others.
And I want to tell, you know, other people's stories.
You know, I want to create, whether if it's through
(31:47):
a podcast or not. I wouldn't say like a podcast
like format, but like through video, through storytelling and tell
that person's story and show the good that they have,
because I feel like that's something that I'm just able
to do and I'm able to see someone and be like, Yo,
you're this, you're that, And you know. That's many conversations
that I have, either with Jackie or Relite. I'm like, yo, bro,
I think you should have this person on stream, or
(32:09):
you should do this with that person because they're funny
or because of that, or I think it'll be good
some type of encouragement. Yeah. So I think in regards
to that, that's something that you guys will see more
from me, is you know just filming, telling stories a
lot more on YouTube. As I was saying before, TikTok,
(32:29):
just everything that I can do, whether it's streaming, and
I just want to be able to maximize his time
and just to be able at the end of the day,
whether if it's ten five years from I just be like, yo,
I took advantage of that time. I made the most
out of it. And if it went good, it went good.
If it didn't, it didn't as long as I'm able
to say.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Which is funny, not funny that you say, but not
like when you were talking about it. I remember, like
when you first moved over here, you were so depressed,
like and you had no idea what the hell you
were going to do. Like so saying that you stay
up at night now having a vision and having these
(33:10):
like creative ideas is such a shift to what you
were who you were when you got here. Yeah, and
it's like now it's like okay, because you would be
freaking out. You would freak out about like what am
I going to do? Like this, this and that, Like
you had no idea, and it's like now like not
that you have a plan because it's obviously, but you
have more vision, you have the drive to like, you know,
(33:33):
to do these YouTube videos or whatever it is, the
twitch and all that, like, and I'm just happy. I'm
happy and I'm very proud friend because I've seen him
come a very long way and a personal aspect.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And can I tell you something that you know, it's
like I still worry.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Of course, I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Still have those moments w FRO. I'm like, I don't
know how I'm going to do this. I don't know
if I'll even take off or if I'll even be
this person that I see myself like in my visions.
And that kind of like plays into that, like to
staying up at night. I just say that because it's
just like, yeah, at one point, it's kind of like
as you grow, the things you worry about are different, right,
(34:19):
you know.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But the difference is that at that time you were
scared to take risk, yeah, and I now that you're not, like,
you have a lot of risks that you want to take, yeah,
and you're like whichever one boom like goes so. And
even to get from there to where you're at now
is like a huge sign of growth because it takes
(34:40):
a lot for a person to come out of that
type of mentality too, like like okay, like because a
lot of people are scared of failure, and I feel
like that's the like you have to take the risk
and if you fail, you fail, and that's fine. But
if you don't know, if you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Don't try, that's that's the thing. You just don't know.
You don't know, you don't know if like even and
that's why you just have to get through that mental
block and whatever you do in life. Right Like when
I would say in my relationship, when I was driving
fucking three hours just to go to see Jackie. To me,
when I met her, it was like, wow, I love this.
(35:17):
I love the way she makes me feel. And it
makes absolutely no sense. Even where I was at, like
in my career doing social media, it made no sense
to get in a relationship unless it was gonna be
one of those like fake relationships that people do. But
to me, it was like, I just know, this is
something that I just have to do and I would
hate And this time I always told Jackie till like
(35:39):
the thought of not knowing overcomes my fear every time.
So what if of like what if it does amazing?
You know, whatever this goes well will always be my
But damn, what if it always goes bad? This literally
is the worst decision I ever make. It's like I
have to.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Know, But that's just us as humans though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's but some people are like, I'm too scared to
do it. I don't want to do it. Yeah, And
you just have to get through that mental block. So
whe if it's a relationship or you want to post
on social media, or like you know, you want to
do something in your career, go to school, quote your job,
start a business, you just have to get through that
mental block of like, damn, what if it goes back?
(36:19):
But what if it goes amazing? What if it is
the best decision you ever made. To me, it was
like I always go back to Thank god, I fucking
moved out of Miami. I moved in with you. Thank God, I,
you know, just took that d because if I hadn't,
I'll be fucking miserable over.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There, be sitting on a computer talking to what's.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Working nine to five? Bro, Not that there's anything wrong,
but to me, I would just that was just not
for me. I just could not do that. I was
rotting in my old life because I just knew the
things that like that I aspired for. We're just not there,
right and now you're here. Yeah, and we're now on
(36:59):
this big amazing you have a beautiful house.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Thanks, this is okay. You guys want to know this
is Isaac's first time in my actual house.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
She had tried to say, all, this could have been
your room, you know, Damn well, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Was showing the house. I was just like, yeah, that
could have been your room, but it's not. No, But
I do want to tell you, if you know, anytime,
my doors are always open, my heart is always open
for you. Yeah, I'm always going to be willing to.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Like.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I don't know, just be there for you and every
aspect in every way, even if I'm not there, Like
you know, I just want to know that you have
somebody here that still loves you and still cares for
you and believes in you and ways like that nobody
can understand, like and the same way with me, Like
you don't you know me in ways that a lot
of people don't understand and I appreciate. And I think
(37:58):
there's just been a lot of growth, even in your
personal relationships, but more specifically obviously in our friendship here, like,
I'm grateful for what happened, and I'm grateful that we
were able to you know, be grown.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, because I think the way it see is like
now that we've been through that, a situation like that
where we kind of like separated ways, where you had
your faults, I had my faults, It's like now we
know something like that will never happen exactly. You know,
it's something that you kind of grow through, you learn
and you move on communication exactly. And also like, hey,
if something happens right, you know, I'll talk to Wilito
(38:34):
and you know, you can we have a room for.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
You to you know what, Honestly, I'm okay where I'm
at in my corner.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Hey, you know I'll put it in a good way
then you know, we can make it happen. We'll put
a spot.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Look, I think we should Yeah, I think that Wlito
also should be Uh. I guess we gotta yeah in
case everybody's asking no, But honestly, I would love to.
I feel like again like I'm in a space and
maybe a lot of people don't can't recognize it or
see it because they don't know me, But I am
in a space of like I just want to like
(39:12):
clean slate, like wish well for everybody. I'm the last
person to wish mad mal intent on anybody. I love
and care for everyone, and I would do it all
over again for you and because of what the loves
that I received from you. And you know, I'm not
just happy. You know, I can like talk to you about, like,
(39:32):
you know, my problems since.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, exactly what relationships for you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Here he goes, because our last podcast was about what
was it? We were talking about something about dating guys
and dating or whatever. Yeah, you know what, as I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Older, recap for last year.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Last year, we're all my dating recap, dating all right,
So I probably went on about like three dates. No,
yeah dates. One was the first, one was the first date,
he got, two second dates, three got my number. But
(40:10):
this year's yeah, there's nobody ever me through friends. Yeah,
but that doesn't matter anymore. No. I did do a
dating apps, but I was just I was just there
and this is not it. I don't I don't recommend it.
I mean, if it's where you go for it, do
you feel.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Like meeting someone through mutual is the best?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
No? No, no, no, no, no, I don't I mean,
it could be a way, but I also feel like,
because there's that middle person, that person could always be
that middle person that like, I mean, unless they're grown, grown,
I know how to communicate. But I feel like because
I had that experience that that person wasn't like emotionally
(40:49):
available or like mature, that it was always that going
to communicate through that middle person, And probably on my
part too, because like I'm obviously gonna go and cheeve
me out into them, like what the fuck's happening? Yeah,
but I do think it takes a lot of emotional
maturity to like separate the two. But dating wise, I
think this year, I'm just I'm over people that are
(41:13):
younger than me. I do need a lot older than me. Yes,
I can't, Isaac.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
How old were these guys on this?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I dated twenty six? Okay, I'm twenty seven. I'm twenty seven, right,
I'm when it turned twenty eight, So twenty seven twenty six,
and that was pretty much it twenty seven twenty six.
But now, oh, I can't give you all that infor now.
What you mean, I'll tell you off camera anyways. But no, honestly,
(41:42):
I'm kind of just I'm taking it easy, and maybe
I think my problem is and I realized that yesterdays
that I overly communicate how I'm feeling, and I think
that can come off as like, okay, like I share,
Like if I don't like something, I say I don't.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Like it, like and the reason why.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, and then like that person, Okay, great, you got
it there. Then something else happens that I that bothers me,
not necessarily that I don't like, but I express it.
And this is like talking stage though. So I think
I overly communicate and it scares people off or they're.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Just not say like, okay, well go on the first day,
and then you tell me, oh, I don't or no,
say it because it talking. Okay, so look, give me
an example. I'm trying to say an example. Okay, right now.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You know what really bothers me is that when someone
watches my stories or replies to my stories but won't
reply to my text first.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Ah, okay, okay, okay, so you tell them, hey, I
don't like the fact that you watched my story but
you didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yes, that is one of my like, okay, that's something
I don't like. I feel like whatever. Okay, cool, there's that,
but then it's also like another forms of communication, like
I get that you don't have to talk every day
every day.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
No, no, but hold on, I want to go back
to this over community so communicating. So you said you
tell them, hey, I don't like that, you replied to myself,
but don't text me. So where do you go from there?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Do you over?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay, I'm sorry? Okay, that person says, I'm sorry. Okay,
this is like you know, I'm sorry, Like it wasn't
like that, Okay, cool, Yeah, Like I'm letting you know
that I don't like it, so let's not let it
happen again.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But then another thing happens where it's like, oh, you
didn't text me for like a lot of the day
A lot of the day, yes, exactly, which I still
don't feel like anyone is too busy like or doesn't
(43:45):
look at their phone. That's the ship that bothers me,
the excuse that I wasn't on my phone. No, like
you have like be for real. But you know what
I'm just gonna I've expressed it how I don't like
feeling because I think my thing is is that I
(44:06):
just I don't like feeling ignored, especially as if I'm
like if the line is like we've already shared our
intentions in dating. You already know what I want. I
know what you want. Like we're kind of on the
same page. So and when you're kind of just like
a little bit ghost, you're acting a little weird.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Listen, I relate to that because I think there's some
me and you share is like the moment you make
us feel like not important or insignificant, it's like I.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bet exactly, I bet, thank you you see he gets me.
It's because it's like I could play I could play
the game. I'll play the game too, But what was
told to me before is it what's happening now? So
like so we're switching up all right, cool, like I
got it.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
So then when you communicated that.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I communicated that, and then it comes off as like
everything is kind of like a little bit judging or okay,
like I'm probably like like they get scared. I'm I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know, and I
try to do like healthy communication because you already know,
like I'm used to hiding or like keeping things to
myself and now that I'm just like especially in a relationship.
(45:14):
I feel like it's super essential to have that, like, hey, like, yeah,
let's this is what I like and what I don't like.
If this is something that you're not going to fuck
with or that you can't get passed or can't handle,
and let me know, yeah, because this is what like,
this is the type and certain communication that I need.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
And then can I give you some hope?
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Tell me, all right, some hope for you you will
find that person that is understanding of how you are,
of course, because like when you want to be with somebody,
you'll look over past their flaws, their imperfections because you're like, hey,
you know what, a life is better with them than
without them. And I feel like that's that's my I
(45:58):
would say my reason as to why me and Jackie
last or have been together for you know, a year,
it's not that we've had a perfect relationship. It's more
of like we've had we've shown our nakedness, our perfection,
our truths are bad, are past, and it's a like, hey,
(46:20):
in spite of all of that, in spite of you know,
her immaturities, the things that she has fallen short as
to me, it's like, hey, I still want to stay.
I still want to work it out because life is
better with you than without you. So you will find
that person that will deal with your over communicating and
(46:41):
learn together and grow together, because that's the whole point.
And it's like I feel like dating now it's like
either you come perfect or this ain't it.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Sadly, yeah, I think more for me too, because I
just I feel like I've been just been through too much,
Like I don't have time to be like going back
and forth. Like if you got problems, like I get it,
like it's having you know, your little issues are fine, Yeah,
but if you haven't like worked through them, or like
if you're not at like a certain point, like I'm sorry,
(47:14):
but you're not cut for it. Yeah you know, but
you know, we're gonna see how it goes. I'm hopeful
this year.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
And I'll say this and then we can move on
to the next thing. But it's like we live in
a generation of like in the past, people broke things
and they fixed it. Now things are broken and then
we replace it with new things.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah. So yeah, but I can't be a fixer and that's.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
My problem for sure, for sure. But it's obviously two
people coming together. And that's where you need to make
a decision on whether things, Hey, I can deal with
this or you can't be cause you have to have
some so self awareness as like I can't deal with this,
Like this is just too much. I got to step away.
You know, I agree, you.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Know what, honestly in your list of dreams and risk
in your little podcast or twitch or whatever, I think
you should do like hotlines of like dating, Yeah, we can, we.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Can go, we can do yeah a stream where and
then people call in, Yeah, I just gotta get a
new number.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Please do you invite me?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Please?
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I'll give the girl perspective, you guys like guy perspective.
That's cool, that'll be cool, all right, you guys. No,
but I really appreciate you coming out here and welcoming
you into my home. I appreciate obviously you having that
communication with me and putting our relationship first before anything.
(48:38):
And I love you and I love everything that you're
doing again, so very proud. Please share your socials, share,
you know, if everybody wants to catch up and see
what he's doing, and you know his little leprechaun as,
just keep watching him and just everything. He's just great. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Anyways, when you're not watching Jenica and her tiktoks or
her podcast, you can find me on TikTok and on Twitch.
Isaac made you look. And then if you want to
watch a long form video of me and my friends
or you know what's coming up, and you can find
me on jay and I've logs Jays and Jackie and
(49:20):
I as an Isaac okay on YouTube. I promise you
more video. I'm gonna have Jenica on a video too,
so you're gonna see me and Jenica do more content.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Oh my gosh, you guys were back. That's like you
give people the reasons.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I troll so much.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
It is what it is, all right, you guys. Thank
you so much for watching and listening to this episode.
If you guys felt anything, if you guys agreed with anything,
please make sure you guys leave a review, follow, Subscribe
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(50:07):
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(50:28):
so much, and I will see you guys next Tuesday. Bye.
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