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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Oh, any minute now, baseball is gonna be starting, and
I'm pumped up about that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Aaron Judges Ready, Hey, are you ready for over promise?
It's our bonus show. Let's go. We're Cavino and Rich.
We're on Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday, five to
seven on the East, two to four on the West.
This is the stuff we can't fit into the show.
But it's gonna be action packed, action pat We're gonna
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talk about name changes. You know, Pee Wee Herman's name
is Pete W. Herman. A lot of people know that,
a lot of people don't. Yeah, we're gonna talk name
changes because it's a very special anniversary. We're gonna talk
about the reasons you fell in love with sports. I
have a little spin on something that went viral, but
we're kicking it off with comebacks because there's two stories.
There's a lot of boxing news this week. Dana White's
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getting involved with Turkey Ala Shechic. They're gonna start their
whole boxing league. But this Turkey Ala Chic guy me say,
Turkey la Chic. I feel like it's uh something. He
had a Benigan's Make You Hungry? That was a Turkey
old tools. It's some nice honey mustard, the Turkey O
Tools on a sour dough pretzel roll with honey mustard.
I worked at Benigan, Can I tell you I know
that because even though you worked there, I used to
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go to Benigans all the time, and I thought there
was no better chain restaurant sandwich than the Turkey O Tool.
It was so good. So a lot of boxing news.
Turkey Ala Chic also has that May second card coming up. Oh,
you don't want to talk about sandwichris No, no, no fighting, right,
I'm sorry. When I see May second, it's one of
the biggest cards ever. You got Tia Fimo Lopez fighting Barbosa,
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you got Devin Haney and Ramirez. You got Ryan Garcia again, yeah,
Rolie Romero. Right, you're only missing Gervonte Davis there. But
as part of this fight, guess who's coming back. Who's
back guy We've talked to many times, Jim Lampley.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And this to me makes so much sense. Take a
listen to gym Hello again.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I'm Jim Lampley, and I'm here to announce that, after
a few years away from Ringside, I will be returning
on May two under the banner of the Ring magazine
to cover the triple header and Times Square that involves
Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney and Taya Fimo Lopez, a new
groundbreaking event for the sport outside in the middle of
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New York City. I'll be back at ringside to call
blow by blow. Couldn't be more excited about it now.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Dude, He's been doing online stuff but hasn't done blow
by blow since the golden era of the HBO fights. Right,
So he's coming back. And then guess who wils is
coming back today or is trying to come back? It
was announced that there he is. Jim Lampley. Very excited
about that, man, Dude, Jim one of the best in
the game. You know, we go up watching Jim Lampley
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helped us fall in love with the sport. But today,
a former heavyweight champion said he wants to make a
comeback to become the oldest heavyweight to ever do it,
to ever win a title. He said he only wants
to come back if he gets a title shot. He
hasn't fought since twenty seventeen. That is Vladimir Klitschko, Oh Clitchko,
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the guy that was so good yet so boring. A
lot of people say he ruined the heavyweight division. It's
true because he was so dominant and he refused to
fight his brother. I understand, but they held that heavyweight
title so long it made the heavyweight division boring. And
if the heavyweights are boring, no one really cares about
the middleweights and the lightweight so on set the tone, right,
I look at it this way. I just looked it up.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
His last two fights, he lost to two legit guys.
He lost to Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fiory. So Klitchko
went out in twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen to twenty twenty five,
that's eight boxing years. That's like dog years, Like he.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Might as well have been out of the out of
the ring for fifty years at ring rust the ring.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I don't think there's any harm in it. But listen,
he's not fifty seven to fifty eight year old Mike Tyson.
But are you really going to get an old almost
fifty year old clitch Goo in the ring against a
guy like an Usik.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, if there's interest there, if there's intrigue, it's
a big name, an international name, might be a lot
of money involved. It could happen, but I would not
mess with the UH six and Daniel Dubois of the world.
These young dudes hit hard. He's getting older, but again
he's saying he wants to make a comeback. Foreman did it.
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He won it at the age of forty five. Clitchko
is forty eight. And it makes us think of some
of our favorite comebacks.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And you know, the Tyson Jake Paul thing should just
remind us all that sometimes the comeback you want better
off not happening. It's just better off being left alone.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Couldn't leave well Enough alone, could you? Now?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If you want to start this list, there's a comeback
that I mean, the headline was comeback.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's I'm back. I think I'm back. I'm back. I
think it was a simple I'm back. And we're talking
Michael Jordan after he left for baseball. Yeah, there it is.
Number forty five was short lived.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
People forget that that first year back he lost in
the conference finals. He wore number forty five and he
changed it to twenty three. And that's the comeback we
like to think about. But based on my theory of it,
should have left well Enough alone.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Sorry, is that your theory or hang tight because I
think it's someone else's Okay, and we'll get to that verse.
But Michael Jordan, we like to ignore the Wizard era,
and rightfully so, why would we want to think about
the guy that missed half the season Every season he
played as a wizard, and he put up like twenty points,
but he was a shell of the man he once was. Yeah,
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but we're talking about comebacks. We enjoyed. I enjoyed when
he left baseball and came back. Okay, not that shitty one.
That shitty one. And when you think of comebacks, it's
not just in sports, right you also think entertainment, movies, music.
You can chime in at Fox Warriors, Sorts Radio, at
Covino and Rich. A comeback that was isn't that much
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of a comeback but got so much hype in so
much news. Was John Travolta's when he came back in
pulp fiction.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But he wasn't even gone that long look back, I
know in perspective, I know, not that long. But if
you want to say, yeah, he did shit in the eighties,
but Grease was nineteen seventy eight, pulp Fiction was nineteen
ninety four. That was a sixteen year gap of not
acting of relevance because Grease was huge, Pulp Fitcher was huge,
and it put him in like a different line. He
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was dancing with Satday Night Fever and now of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's talking and all that other stuff. The thing is,
for whatever reason, it felt like he was gone and
out of our minds forever when he came back, and
he came back as like a bad guy, like Wow,
I didn't know that side of Travolta, the Royalwo Cheese.
It was a huge comeback. So in the world of movies,
it was definitely one of the biggest. Now in the
world the sports rich back to sports. I know a
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lot of people think when you're thinking like the New
England area, maybe the Red Sox, the two thousand and
four Socks, But as the Yankees and I say, screw that.
Gotta think of twenty eight to three Tom Brady in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I'm going to think of both of those Boston area teams.
I mean, I'm thinking of the Patriots. I mean, when
you think about how that game was twenty eight to three,
there's no way you thought that Tom Brady and that
team was coming back now, Super.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Bowl fifty one was a wrap. That's how we saw it.
We were at my house. Do you remember being in
my apartment in Sherman Oaks. Was that the one when
you were crying? I did shed a little. I shed it.
U was right, that was the one. It was the
year looking back, is I understand why you crying? That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You guys made fun of me, But there was that
They had a picture back of the day where I
was sitting like with my hands on my chin looking
at Tom Brady and I'm like because in.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
That moment, I'm like, it was amazing. He really it
really was like unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And you know, when you really think about Boston, for
all those obnoxious, awesome Boston people, we know the fact
that they had that New England comeback and the Red
Sox come back, two great stories.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They own them both. Thirty four twenty eight over the
Falcons in overtime amazing moment screwed the Red Sox moment,
because honestly, that was super moment trumps it And for
me in the world of entertainment, I guess you would
say my honorable mention prisoner of the moment because it's
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still fresh on my mind. Has to be Billy Zapka.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Say, honorable mention, I couldn't leave well Enough alone, honorable mention.
I say, like number one, Billy Zapka made Cobra Kai
an amazing show. I love Ralph Maccio. All the kids
on that show are great. But without Billy Zapka would
Cobra Kai have had success. And by the way, today,
happy seventy ninth birthday. Martin Cove really karate kidd and
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of course Cobra Kai.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I like that. Every time I call Kavino Cove, he
feels like he has to do that. I have to
do the Martin Kober. He holds his his gee, he
holds his gee like this. But you're so right. Not
only the comeback of Johnny Lawrence the character where he
was like misunderstood and now he's the hero, but the
comeback of this guy's acting career, because he really showed
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his chops. Even though it's the cheesiest show yet so great.
He was amazing in the show. I think he deserves
an award. I think Billy Zapka still has juice left
in him. We haven't seen the best of this dude.
I want to see where he spins off in his
life and his acting career, so major comeback props to him.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I wouldn't hate it if William Zapka the Poet, If
Billy Zapkaye, by the way, that's how I Met your
Mother referenced William Zapka the Poet, If Billy Zapka thin
my mother won a Golden globe or something for this role,
I wouldn't hate it at all. And by the way,
the gap of that was eighty six to twenty eighteen,
a thirty two year gap between playing Johnny Lawrence and
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I remember Rocky Balboa talked about it once. The gap
between nineteen seventy six Rocky one and then playing that
same character get to be one movie.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Are people still going to care? Is going to translate,
But to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Try to reimagine that character thirty forty years later is unbelievable.
And speaking of How I Met your Mother, billy's Apka
was on that show with this guy, Neil Patrick Harris.
I always feel like you downplay child star Doogie howser Dipzo,
dips away for over a decade, comes back as a womanizer.
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Barney Stinton on How I Met Your Mother and the
irony is that he's a gay man playing the biggest
womanizer there is.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I just never looked at it as a comeback. I
looked at it like he reinvented his character. He reinvented himself.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's that's an over a decade long, like all right,
when am I gonna get my next shot?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He got it, and it was like, dude, hey, there's
no right or wrong answers. You could chime in again
at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio hashtag Billy's
as the man, but again that congrats again to Jim
Lampley and props to clitch Goo. I'd love to see
you get We all love a great comeback.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
What about if Klitchko fought another like U, you know,
like if Tyson wanted to get back in there.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
He said he's only coming back for a title shot.
That's where we're at right now. So much money does
the shek have? Right? Exactly? And that brings us to well,
the reason why we're here in the first place. Again,
we all grew up playing sports, watching sports. Rich and
I worked for Bleacher Report, SNY, ESPN now Fox Sports Radio.
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Over promised he'd been around the world and yeah, and yeah,
it makes you think, well, why did I fall in
love with sports in the first place. I saw a
video that made me think, all right, some kid went
semi viral on TikTok and take a listen to what
he said.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Hit it watched them your favorite sports team play. For me,
it was David Ortiz being a Red Sox fan in
your early twenty tens. In that era, getting to David
Ortiz play every day was such an incredible thing to
watch when I saw him in the boxes like, I
had to watch him. It was just one of those
kind of players, and he was one of the reasons
why I kept watching a team because I loved watching
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him play. I loved watching my home runs. The fact
that David Ortiz might be the reason why I'm such
a big sports fan today is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's also for like and he posts the question of
what's the reason you fell in love with sports? Who
was the reason? And my little spin on that is
maybe it wasn't a person. Maybe it was a moment,
you know, maybe it wasn't a person. He's saying David
Ortiz was that guy for him. His question was who
was the reason? I'm saying was there a moment or
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was there a person? Either way, I want to talk
about it. I want you guys to think about it,
because if we're going to talk person rich for me,
as a little pumpkin pie haircutted kid growing up on
the East Coast, if there is a person aside from
your parents who you know introduced you or your uncle
who introduced you to a game you love, right, yeah,
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it has to be done maddingly growing up on the
East Coast. It has to be that magical scene where
his six grand slams. I mean, for you, just being well,
answering on behalf of me. It has to be for
you made it seem like it had to be for everyone. No, okay,
this is my answer, Donnie Baseball. You could think whatever
it is you think it's gonna be different for everybody.
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I'm posing the question his MVP seasons, how he was
the shining light on such a DODO team for so long,
Donnie Baseball. It was a way he played. It was
the way he wore his hat, and the way he
stood in the batter's box and wore his EyeBlack. Everything
about don madding to me represented baseball. Donnie Baseball the
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hit Man, and it made me fall in love with
the Yankees. And I give him the credit. But if
there was a moment, rich if there was a moment,
he was probably something Mike Tyson related in the world
of boxing because it brought family together for a big
pay per view, big fun night. But I think that
real moment for me was when Julio Saysarchav has knocked
out Meldrick Taylor with like three seconds left, Richard Steele's
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counting it down. I remember my family just erupting when
that happened, and that really like set me off my
love of boxing.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's funny you would say boxing because I have my
baseball and football answers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But what made me fall in love with sports?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I remember watching Warner Wolf's Plays of the Week and
his Plays of the Year and all that stuff. There's
a fight in the eighties where Mike Tyson knocked out
Trevor Burbick, and Berbick fell once, then he got up,
fell again, got up, and then he fell through the ropes,
and I remember being like, yo, Mike Tyson's a beast.
And I remember loving boxing because Mike Tyson and that
crazy knockout of Trevor Bourban.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I mean, how could you forget it? Yeah? He
kept trying to get out like baby deer, kept falling down.
It was wild. So those moments are what helped you
fall in love with sports. Was it a person an athlete?
Was it an athlete superstar? Was it a moment?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That is what I'm saying for me being a kid
of the eighties. I'm a Mets fan. I come from
a Mets family. I wore number sixteen for two reasons.
The two people that inspired me most star with baseball
eighty four, eighty five, eighty six. Every kid w to
get that high leg kick like Dwight Gooden. If you
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were pitching as a little leaguer in the eighties, you
need to own the city in the eighties, that big
wind up, the big leg kick, and you wanted to
be number sixteen. I still wear number sixteen when I
played softball because I loved doctor K. Dwight good and
there were billboards he made you want to emulate his
wind up, his mechanics. The guy was fluid, striking everyone out.
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And then on the flip side.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
These are the guys you were pretending to be when
you were playing with football when you were playing Little League.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
So to me, Dwight Gooden was the guy, and no doubt, coincidentally,
number sixteen was a guy. My dad told me, Richie, Oh, Richie,
this is the coolest dude, the coolest. My dad convinced
me that Joe Montana was the coolest dude on planet Earth.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And I was listen.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I was five years old when Montana beat Marino in
the Super Bowl, and I remember my dad being like,
and that's why Joe Montana's son is the greatest.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And when I was a little.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Boy, I remember that and being like, yo, and that's
he and I could see it, so still bring it
up till this day. It was very easy for me
until this day to wear number sixteen because my two
childhood heroes, Joe Montana and do I good In both
wore number sixteen. And what's funny, I said this to
Covin now the other day. It's really awesome to get
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a front seat view of this with my kids and
their friends, watching these little kids talk about oh Tani
Mookie bets Aaron Judge. Oh, my kids are like Linten Door,
like they love Lindor. So watching your kids get all
fired up about your childhood heroes and.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Their generational thing is going to be someone new for them,
and if you're older than us, it's someone else. And
that's what we're posing to you. We're asking you because
that person deserves a lot of credit. Think of how
much joy and entertainment you know, you get from sports
as an adult and as a kid, it's probably because
of that person, that athlete don magly for me, or
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that moment that happened that they changed your life, that
team won, or this knockout happened. But yeah, answer the
hit man, I said to Covino, pre must that's pre
mustache matting. The funny funny part about how times change.
And you know, depending where you are regionally, uniform numbers
funny to me because if you were a kid in
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junior high or high school through the nineties, you couldn't
get number two. Because every kid where I grew up
on the East Coast, I want to be Jea.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm a Mets fan, but every one of my team
was like I want to be Jeter. So high school,
middle school, whatever it was, no one could ever get
number two because it was like, yo, that's a fight.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Now again, let's let's keep it clear, though, Jeter sustained
my love of baseball, But who actually made me fall
in love with baseball every day? Washing team?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Don Manning. But I was I was telling you how
funny it is. I'm coaching t ball for my son
out here, Pony League Baseball, and on his te ball team.
I have one jersey that got left over and it
was number two, and I'm like, in my mind, I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like, in my generation, this would have been the first
one to go. No kid wanted to be number two.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Meanwhile, you know, twenty five years ago in New York,
is not a kid that didn't want to be number two?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You knowwhere else you see that when you're watching like
the Little League World Series, because every answer like who's
your favorite player? For years it was like Derek Cheeter,
Derrek No matter where that team is from. Now it's
Bryce Harper Shoho Taniyeah right, it's pretty cool. It's awesome.
So thank you guys for helping us fall in love
with sports and taking us here now again. I'm Cavino.
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That is rich and today is a very special day.
It's an anniversary magazine day. Dooty Magazine Day nineteen.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Sixty four, today's the day that Cassius Clay said, I
am no longer Cassius Clay.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I am Muhammad Ali. By the way, I love that
coming to America. But a cool name, such a cool name,
Cassius Clay, but became the great Muhammad al Lee. And
that photo spot is a famous one. And if you
look between his legs in the color version, you see
you see Larry Merchant in there somewhere in the background,
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but he's there. But that makes us think of the
greatest name changes in sports.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
According to us, Well, they always say this two categories, right,
The categories are religious purposes or ego purposes, and it's
gonna be one of the others. So you say Ali religion, right, Uh?
Number two ron art test metaworld piece. Is that that's
you could say, like, oh, that's for the good of it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
He wants attention, but he wanted to change up his
reputation a little bit too, right and escape that ron
Artest sort of attitude that he had. I automatically think
of Chad Johnson too. It was Chad Johnson. I mean,
I'm sorry, Chad Ocho sink And.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I loved his number so much, and he had such
a love for his nickname. He became legally Chad Ocho Sinco.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Even though I was the original OG eighty five. In
high school, they called me Ocho Cinco. Dude, yeah he
did unied high school. They get stuck. Oh seriously, no,
but Chad Johnson definitely comes to mind. Legally changed his
name Ocho Cinco.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Now another guy religious purposes, NBA legend, and I believe
you scammed the kid in your town out of his
rookie car because some little dunce in Union, New Jersey
in the eighties didn't realize that lu Alcinda was Kareem
abdul jabbaru.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Else in there, Kareem abdul Jabbar again. Yeah, some kid
wanted like a Clodel Washington baseball card and I was like, hey,
I'll give it to you for the Who's that Luel
Simba guy? Yeah? Who that was? Because we know him
as Kareem abdul Jabbar.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now this is sort of a funny one because I
remember one season he came back and I'm like, what's
going on here. Mike Stanton was a pitcher for the Yankees.
I always remember Mike Stanton at the bullpens good and
then there was some slugger on the Marlins.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Mike Stanton.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm like, wait, wait, what happened to Mike Sam Who's
Junk Carlow? Is that you remember this one named G?
Now big big G. John Carlow entered the league as
Mike Stanton and then he went with Gean Carlow. That
happens a lot in Hollywood too.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's like, what's that famous story about Katie Perry. Wasn't
she Kate Hudson? Her name is Kate Hudson really, but
because there was another Kate, yeah, I guess I'll switch
it up, go with the maiden name or whatever. But
he was like, eh, let's go with Gean Carlow now,
which I love. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
This guy didn't change his name as much as just
this is one of those one ego ones, Joe Thiseman.
I did not know this until later in life. I'll
be honest. This is one of those like I didn't
realize until maybe the last decade.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's a great story. He wanted it to rhyme with Heisman,
so before he was.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
In college he was Joe Thieesman. Joe Thiesman went Joe
Heisman and Joe Thiesman became Joe Thiseman because he wanted
to win the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And then there's just other stories too. You remember growing up,
you remember your baseball cards. You remember how guys went
from like Jorgey Bell to George Bell. Right, there was
like course, I remember who's rock Rains. That kind of
was going but I mean it's just a nickname, but
he was going by that for a minute, Tim Rains.
So some of the greatest name changes and one that's
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not really catching on. Rich your cousin Gervonte Davis. You know,
he changed his name to abdul Waheat, but no one's
really rolling with it. So he's Dravante. But you know
what they're calling him after last week, Pauli Malanaji calls
him Stank Davis. So he's no longer I don't know Davis.
After that performance, he's after taking a knee. I don't
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know if Stank Davis will catch on. But that's what
your cousin Gravante's going by.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Could I tie it all together as we say farewell
to everybody? Sure talking about name changes? Yeah, cash is Clay.
What are your passions como sports and music and butt cheeks?
But cheks, Yeah, I'll tie two of them together. Wasn't
Pearl Jam's original band named Mookie Blaylock.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yes, yeah, that was their original name. It's true, and
they decided to go with Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But they go out in the famous basketball player Mookie
Blaylock Pearl Jam.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And yeah here you got better known as Pearl Jam.
There you have it, so you could add two famous
name changes and chime in. Hope you enjoyed the show.
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Hit us up at Covino and Rich until next time.
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