April 30, 2025 • 47 mins
For Inning 2, Parney and Cheats are joined by WWE Hall of Famer and icon Jeff Jarrett! Jeff talks about falling in love with wrestling, the art of entertaining and promoting, the incredible people he's met along the way, and even how he’s found a new home in Minor League Baseball. That — and so much more — from the legendary Double J on Parney Time.
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
Joe T.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You excited? Oh yeah, all right, don't yo, I'm a
here so loud it kind of hurts. And then Party
Pop Club MP on the mic, mi Ia MP on
the mica today. But the one and only cheats is
with us Cheats. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm working all my strut. You're working on your shrut
for today. All right, then, and here's the reason why
Party Time's all about relationships. At Monor League Baseball has
brought to this guy party over the last thirty six years,
and it goes all through the world, all through the sports.
And our guest today for this inning is a person
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who is a world renowned Hall of Famer, not only
as a wrestler, a professional wrestler, but as a person.
And he's yet another person that I met in sports,
that he and I met and it was like we've
known each other our whole life. So I'm really excited.
Once again, have no idea where this conversation is going
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to go. These are conversations, not interviews. But please everyone,
welcome the one and only Jeff Jarrett to party time. Jajy,
what's up.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You're supposed to be clapping? You said you got this
strut ready supposed to be clapp than my man. Oh,
thank you, party. I'm excited to be here. I'm very happy.
And as you were kind of given the introduction, you said,
thirty six years. You know this year I started April
of eighty six. April six of eighty six is when
I started wrestling, So I'm you know, if we do
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the math here, this is going into my uh yeah,
thirty eighth year or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You got me by two. You got me by two,
But you've been thrown on the mat a lot more
than I have.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I started like in third grade, so it's hard for
you to get into minor league baseball in third grade.
But no I did. It's a little bit you. You
probably did the the college thing, or before they kicked
you out, I mean, before you decided.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I had a three point seven my first year in college,
one point nine the first semester one point eight to
second semester.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There you go, buddy, they were the plus seven years
of your life. So, uh, where did you go to college? Party?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I actually played college basketball in Harsford, Pennsylvania for a
Division III school, psych College. I hold the record there
for most missed shots in my career and also the
more beers illegally drank on a Christian campus. But everybody
that listens to this from a psychollege that's allegedly that
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really didn't happen, I hear you, although although it did
so Yeah, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which I'm sure you've probably wrestled
in Harrisburg many times.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And as you say that, I didn't realize, man, all
the years we've known each other. I played one year
of college ball, and I had all the expectations of
going back and the rusting bug bit me and yeah,
where were you at for that? In Nashville Quanas Junior College,
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my kind of claimed fame. Party is started every game
my freshman year. It was I am to this day,
I am a basketball junkie. I'll watch I'll watch the
late game of you know, throw in any two teams
Clippers who were they're good now, But are they're okay?
You know a late name Clippers, Seattle, whatever, I watch it,
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Seattle's not even there. But you know I am a Laker.
I did watch anything, but no Aquannas junior college, they
won the national championship the year after I left, so
I got him ready went into wrestling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My nickname in college was Parneye. But on the basketball
team they called me Big Mac because I couldn't jump
over one, but I could eat a bunch of them,
so Big Mac.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You mentioned playing basketball in college yourself, and I did
not know that, and you're right. We've known each other
a bunch of years, and so it's just an example
in relationships you always find out something right. Yeah, but
the way we met is another connection. Elliott Sadler also
played was going to play college basketball and James Madison
and you and I met through Hermie. Hermie and Elliott
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were on season one. I think it was episode eight,
I believe something like any eight. Elliott and her we're on.
We had a great time with them. Oh boy, but
that's just how it happens. Like like I remember, Hermie
either texted me or called me and said there's this
guy I need you to meet, and it was you,
And I'm dead serious. I don't even remember how our
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first conversation went, because I feel like we known each
other our whole life, and I think that's just really
special for me, you know, to have a lot of
people like that in my life, of particularly you. Do
you remember when we first met?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, it was God party, We're going back. No, I
don't remember, but it's it's Hermia. The connection. I want
to say it was about twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I bet it was before then, but we because we
did a GFW show here.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh, that's that's why I was saying, So that the
GFW show would have been fourteen fifteen. We knew each
other before that, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Think, yeah, it might have even been, but it was Hermie.
But but anyway, we'll give Hermi the credit. But I
feel like I've known you for like thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So here's what I do remember. Hermie s Yeah, I
got a buddy of mine and all this kind of stuff.
And it wasn't like thirty seconds later, Hey, Parney, buddy
of mine, Jeff, here's a connect text and off running
and we jumped on the call.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well it's been great. I think we're both like minded because,
you know, in the wrestling world, one of the things
I've always loved about you. You're a great promoter, You're
a thinker, you're a risk taker, but you also are
a problem solver. And that's the way I worked my
whole career. We started yes and go backwards from there.
When people ask us to do something, you said, you
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have you called the wrestling bug, But you got it.
You kind of cheated on it, you got it, honest, right.
I mean your dad, your dad's a legend in the
wrestling business. You want to tell our party time listeners
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, you know what. I'm one of five kids, and
so my grandmother she did everything but Russell. She got
into the business in nineteen forty six. She walked into
a shoe store in downtown Nashville. She was a single
bomb of two and needed a second job, and there
were two signs out front. And I always love to
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tell the story and just kind of think, how this
one decision. Uh. My grandmother was one of h five yeah,
one of five poverty. They absolutely came from absolutely nothing,
kind of a rough part of Nashville, and she was
a hard worker, and my grandmother literally changed kind of
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the course of our entire family in so many ways.
But there were two signs outside, and it says help
needed and the other sign said wrestling tickets for sale.
And she walked in and the guy run in the
shoe store said, hey, how can I help you? And
she said, uh, you know, how can I help you?
She said, I saw both signs out front. Uh you know,
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she said, She said, I saw the sign out front,
and he said which one? She said both, because you know,
she wanted a job, but you know, the wrestling tickets
for sale and she wanted you know, was enamored by that.
And then she parlayed that into what we would call
today as a CFO. She got into it. Like I said,
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she did everything but Russell, but worked her way up.
And then she actually ended up promoting towns. And my
dad was a you know, a junior high kid and
hanging around the box office and all that, and he
actually got his hardship license back in the day, and
he started promoting towns with her, and then he started
running his own and then next thing, you know, he
marries my mom has two kids, and then uh played
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football in college but got out of that and went
into wrestling, and it literally the wrestling business has put groceries,
I'll say, on the Jared's table for a long time,
eighty years, and that one decision she made to get
a second job, and she's you know, she was really
my first mentor. A father son relationship sometimes can be
a little bit difficult, a little bit tough, uh, But
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she was a real mentor and really taught me so
many fundamentals, not necessarily about wrestling, but about life and
about business and and those kind of things. And then
obviously I broke in and my dad was no doubt
the mentor in the resting business. But yeah, I get it, honest.
But I bring up that I'm one in five kids.
I'm the only sibling that got into the business that, yeah,
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nobody else really had any interest. My brother has a
super successful construction company in town. You know, my sister's
a homemaker, and my brother's into the finance business, and
so it's just but I'm the only one that, like
I said, I got the buck. I loved it, literally
party and you know that's why you know the different
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stories and you run across people. I am very grateful.
I truly feel like I've really never worked a day
in my life. I loved the business from the very
first wrestling match I.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Went to, Well, we'll get this in a little bit.
But another reason we connect is because later on in
life and I want to make sure we make time
for this. You're involved in the baseball business as well,
and I think one of the reasons we've connected with
each other so well through the years is behind the scenes.
Minor league baseball and professional wrestling is a lot the same, right,
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because it's all about the fan experience and having the
fans like behind in the locker room, in the locker
room here for the Squirrels and the Biscuits down in Montgommer.
You've been in both places. People want to know what
it's like behind the scenes, and I've watched a bunch
I'm a wrestling junkie, as you know, and I watch
a bunch of shows about the behind the scenes. You
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have so many stories about what goes on in the
locker room. And this party Time show is not that long.
Is there like one that just when I say, JJ
tell cheats and the party Time listeners something that's really
special in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
What do you got oh man, oh god, it's a question.
I know, as I say that is such a loaded question,
you're gonna have to throw out a little more bait there,
but you know to and again we both played basketball,
So the locker room in sports, if you will, it's
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just like you guys, you know, you you have, you know,
pictures and catchers report. You kind of have that routine
of pictures and and I'm not the expert on this,
but pictures and catchers reward, and then you get rolling,
and then you have you know, pre season, and then
you have opening Day, and then you try to struggle
through April, May and June and by the All Star
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break you get this and playoff contention and just that
whole cadence and hey man, playoffs and where are we going?
But it's a season. I mean, it literally is a season.
And you know, our business is called sports entertainment, so
from a sporting aspect you can kind of see it.
But you know, a sport has opening day in the
championship series rock and roll, we'll call it the entertainment side,
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or a television show has an episode, they have a season.
Rock and roll guys come up with an album or
country mut music. They go on tour, and the tour
starts in weather breaks, so we'll say kind of March
and runs through October, noveer, whatever it may be. Wrestling
has no seasons. It's fifty two weeks a year. And
I say that in that that really gives a such
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a in a lot of ways, a set point, but
almost kind of a disconnect. That, hey man, that you're
in a locker room together and there are brothers and
sisters that run up and down the roads, and you know,
Kevin Nash's a mutual friend of mine, and you know,
in nineteen ninety four, we probably spent more time together
than we did our wives. I mean, that's just the
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reality of it. I mean, we were on the road.
I think we did seven or nine international trips and
those were a minimum of ten days. And so you
just start doing the math and all that. But when
you when you enter into a professional wrestling locker room,
it is the cadence of twelve months out of the year.
So when people are in and out, in and out.
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You can see a guy, uh, you know, at a show,
and it may be his last night, or he may
be going a different direction. You may not see him
for a couple of years, literally a couple of years,
and then when he walks back in the dressing room,
oh man, what's going on? You kind of pick where
you're left off. So there's a there's a unique kind
of form of camaraderie. So that's on the one side,
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and then the other side is it's kind of a
disconnect because you know, we all know full well that
nothing's guaranteed. There can be an injuries, there can be contracts, views,
you may be gone tomorrow. So that camaraderie is a
little different, and I think that gives it bears so
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many different kinds of fruit. I'll say that in sports,
you have a season and you may not get along
with this guy at all. Weaseball, go home, get out,
or hey man, let's suck it up and for the team,
let's win the championship. That that is not the case
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because team ball, you know, it is team first. Wrestling buddy,
it's dog eat dog world, and there is the nature
of the beasts. And you know, Kevin uh Nash always uses,
as I bring up again, you know, it's called show
business for for for a reason, it's not called show friends.
Uh And so you you. You gotta kind of look
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at it through that perspective, and so, uh, you know,
a story, I don't know. There's so many different practical
jokes that uh time that really pass time. And I mean,
you know, the same hotels and the same cadence and
the same routine and all that kind of stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Let me let me change it up a little bit. Then,
Is there like.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I can give you an Owen story that is always
but go ahead?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Is there is there like how do y'all did y'all
y'all get like in these days a text for something
that tells you who you're going to be up against?
Is there like anybody when you saw the card in
the lineup you went, oh shit, I gotta I gotta
be in the ring with this guy. Is there like
somebody that was your favorite to wrestle against and somebody
that was your least favorite to wrestle against.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, as you just lifted up the phone, as we know, party,
that changed everything. We are in the age of instantaneous
exchange of information. Back in the day, we used to
get a stack of airline tickets. It would be three
weeks at a time, paper tickets, and that's what you
better not lose that shit because that's your stack of
cut And then you had your booking sheets and you
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would know because we you know, WWF we were running
two towns a night, sometimes three towns a night, and
you would be on different runs and you could pretty
much say, all right, you know, back in the day,
I know, I'm wrestling raisor ramone for for ten straight
days and that kind of stuff. Nowadays, the cadence is different.
It's so much more big show mentality. And there are
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many many instances when you find out what you're doing
by Instagram X or Facebook. Oh the cards out, this
is who I got. Uh, there's such a huge churn. Uh.
And that's just that. That's that's how it that's kind
of how it goes. Yeah. So I can give you stories,
but I don't know where you want me to start
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or stop at. Because when you said thirty five minutes,
I said, oh boy, yeah, we're in trouble being part
of your talkers.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We're in trouble. Well, and she says too, and she's
we're gonna get you on you for for one of
your one shots here in the second.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I haven't heard of hell yeah once when I've been
talking Joe. Okay, he's he's wait, he's a way.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He hasn't had a spaghetti yet today, JJ, So you
got to feed the animals. Uh, let me go from
the from the in the ring stuff like that too.
For wrestling on the mic, who's your favorite who's your
favorite mic worker? Of all times? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Boy party going through the years, there's so many good ones.
But you know, I was my dad's business partner. People
know him as Jerry the King Lawler. Lawler had a
real I think he's one of the best to ever
do it. But man, you talk about he could go
do comedy, he could do go do serious stuff. He
could go make he can make you cry, he can
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make you laugh. He's really really good. And the evolution
of the promo in our industry, like everything has has
just radically changed. Uh. You know, in the nineties there
were a different style, and then in the two thousand
and twenty ten and now everything, like the world we
live in is sound bites and it's it's much faster base. Yeah,
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but I still believe the art of delivering the right promo,
like the fundamentals of our business, like and you know baseball,
if you can do the fundamentals. Good buddy, sign me up,
You're gonna go money. And that's the same with rustling.
If you can cut a good promo, you're gonna make money.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, I grew up in Charlotte, as I think you know,
and the Jim Crockett promotion. This is what I was
raised on. My grandfather used to take me to the
parks Charlotte Parks Center every Wednesday night for the for
the Saturday taping. Uh And and I could go on
and on about all the people I saw there while hooping.
Daniel Andre to Giant Superstar, Paul Jones, Rene Gule, Tony Atlas,
a superstar. He was my favorite, Tony Atlas. Uh So
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those are the childhood memories. So this is this is
where I'm going to go with this. In my League baseball,
we always say we're in the memory making business. But
I honestly feel like you guys in the wrestling business
are in the memory making business too.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right, Oh, no doubt, And that that is something that
and I don't know how in tune you are with
the current world of professional wrestling, but there is the
guys in the business today. The athleticism is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Watch it. I meant, I watch your A W stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's such on a different level. And I think the
same in the n b A. You see those guys
hitting those threes from not not not a foot outside
of the line, you know the report I'm talking about
a stride or half court, and they make the spectacular
truly look routine, like the shooting drill. And so I
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think as an audience, whether it's basketball, baseball, you know, Otani, whatever,
they make everything look so easy, and I think in
a lot of ways it almost downplays the reality. And
I go back to man if if if you can
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really make somebody feel a memory, a moment, because you
know me and you could probably right now, I could
probably come off the top of my head ten wrestling
moments really don't have anything to do with the match,
doesn't have anything to do with the spectacular moves, doesn't
have anything to do with that. You know, a Flare promo,
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a Jerry Lawler angle. You know, you could get Hogan
or Austin and I mean we could go on and all,
but the moments in professional wrestling, obviously we got a
little bit cut above you guys. We can script our
moments and in the sporting world, you kind of try
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to capture them when you can get them. But it
is all the same. That is why, And I do
you know the bodily baseball mentality. I've always had just
a crazy mad respect for you guys in the fact
that your roster in a lot of ways is there's
a revolving door. So you guys can only control what
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you can control, and that's when they come through the turnstile.
You got to make this customer or this consumer enjoy
themselves and feel good about spending their money and coming back.
You know, in our world of wrestling, we've got to
do that good versus evil good triumphs. It's that, you know,
whether it's a seven to seventy or a seven year
old kid or a seven year old grandpa, they enjoyed
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the shows. It's the same mentality.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's the same thing. I always say. People say, what's
your target market, and I say, a beating heart cheat.
Sure up, buddy, I'm sorry it's taking me so long
to get to you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
With jeff Erre as a talker, man, he's a talker
nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
This is fantastic, Uh, doublej you said from the first
wrestling match you knew you loved the business and when
you got the bug.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I always like to ask professional athletes, especially minor league
baseball players, when did you realize, like internally, when did
you realize, like, I'm really good at this, I'm better
than the people I look around? When did you realize
like that?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Aha? I made it moment you just hit a grand slam.
I've never been asked that, and I've been done. Come on,
are you serious for thirty seven years? Yes, there you
go right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The animal just woke up into behind me right here.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I say, okay, so off the top of my head
thinking through that, I'm by the grace of God. But
I've always man, throw me a ball, I can shoot it.
I can throw it. At the athletic side of it
always came super easy easy to me. I was super shy,
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I mean, really bashful. I love to be around people
and talking all that, but getting in front of a
mic doing a program.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm an introvert as well. I feel your pain.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, but no, when I was, you know, me having
to do that first promo at eighteen, I was scared
to death, and so I've always I think that's part
of kind of a lot of my inner drive that
I reached in the first seven years of my career.
I worked for the Family Promotion, worked in Japan and
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Texas and Puerto Rico and around. But I'm you know,
I was in home base, and I always wanted to
get better and get better. Because I hadn't reached the
big time, get to the WWF. Well, get to the WWF,
became Intercontinental Champion, I still wanted to be and I
got to keep getting better, keeping good and better. So
I think, even to this day and ebbs and flows
and Hall of Fame and all that kind of stuff,
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I still think my inner clock is I want to
be better. I don't ever want to lose that. And
so your question was, when did you ever think I
was really really good at that? I can't say that
I've really sat back and said, nah, I've always known
I can be better. I really, to this day, I
haven't been taling. And now I've got different challenges, you know,
for a fifty seven year old guy getting in there
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with a guy. I used to joke this thing, Man,
Hey kid, I've got more shower time than you've got
ring time. Well that's a go. Well, you say, because
a lot of the guys I'm wrestling right now, I've
been wrestling ten years longer than they've been freaking alive,
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so that I don't lose sight of that at all.
Like this morning, I was at the gym and Buddy
walked by me and he said, he just shook his head,
and I said what He said, what are you doing?
You're killing yourself. I'm like, I gotta stay in shape.
I truly look at it that way, and with all
the technology and recovery abilities and that kind of stuff.
So I love it. I love it today more than
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I did when I broke in.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I never worked a day in my life, even though
it was hard work, even though you're here at the
ballpark twenty hours a day. Sometimes, like people that have
to sell insurance and shit like that, I don't get
how they live life. Man, I would I would not
be happy. Jeez, you did such a good job on
your one shot. I'm giving you another one.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Here we go, cheats, batter up, brother, All right, I'm
up again.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So you know this double j When people meet you
when you're walking around, they're starstruck. They're just in awe
to be able to see someone that they've seen work
and admire and so forth. Has there ever been a
moment in your life where you met someone that actually
had you that made you take a step back?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Holy shit, cheats, why did you eat for breakfast today?
He's as smart as damn hell right now, she eats.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I wish my wife Karen was on here right now
because she could not believe what I did. And it's
not that big a deal, but she's just like, I've
never seen you this way. So I'm in Los Angeles
and it's a yeah. There was a lot of important
people there in the TV and IS production had a production.
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There was an agent. The agent brought his bass, which
was quote unquote as we all referred to, the big
big balls. But anyway, there was about fourteen of us
at this lunch, and the where I was sitting, I
was sitting. I say this diplomatic, but I was sitting
at the head of the end of one table.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But it always means you got to pick up the check, bro.
You gotta be careful with that shit.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But anyway, it was backed up into the corners because
when we walked in, Hey, you sit down there and
all this kind of stuff. So there's like six on
each side. But it's a pretty tight space in LA,
it's real spread out. But anyway, I'm sitting there and
we're appetizers are gone, the silence are gone, the meals
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are served, We're mid meal. I mean, we're into this.
This is all this, And out of the corner of
my eye I see getting out of a car and
he's walking down this long sidewalk and all this, and
I'm going, oh my god, that's him. I Am not
losing this opportunity. I jumped up. Karen goes, what the
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fuck are you doing? I said, and she said, yeah,
I said, and I just said, I shunned her. I said,
just wait anyway, I got up, got int of there,
I walked up. I said, mister logo, Jerry West, Jeff Jarrett.
I want to Yeah. I read his book. H He's
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a West Virginia boy. It came up the hard one.
I mean, if you really know his story growing up
and then how he succeeds. Didn't just kind of succeed,
he succeeded and then he transitioned as we all know
in the executive that that I mean, you know, look
(28:08):
a boy from West Virginia who had a rough upbringing
and he literally I'm a junkie. Going back to the
he he was the architect of Showtime, which in my
opinion was, Look, we can talk about the steel curtain
of the of the seventies and the cowboys of the seventies,
and yeah, that that kind of puts some showbiz into it.
(28:29):
But to me, the eighties Showtime took what we know
today is modern sport as a as a as a
big show piece that we looked at it. We don't
look at you know, Fox does a great job, but
but I don't think we look at sports the same
way that that folks did. And I think Jerry is
a is a mastermind architect. He wanted to put together
(28:51):
a team, but the branding and all that. Anyway, so
Jerry West and all of the great and Karen had
She's just like what And I said, you don't know
this to her dad's passed away. But her dad knew
the story. And we had had conversations since I got home,
and I'm telling my father in law about the story
and he laughed and he chuckled. But anyway, Karen to
this day will say, I've never seen Jeff before or after,
(29:15):
and I've met, I mean in the sport world, Jordan Gretzky,
uh so so many. And I'm very respectful. Isaiah Thomas
was my favorite point guard, no disrespect. I don't think
Magic is a point guard. I think he's uh he's
But anyway, the logo, man, the logo, that's a great one.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's a great one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Good question, cheat you and.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's And it's funny guys when you're like, you're right,
you've met everybody. I've not met as many people as you,
but I met a bunch of people. And but there's
always somebody. There's always somebody that you can't really speak to.
And for me, believe it or not, JJ mine was
was Phil Ford the best point guard in the history
(30:03):
of college basketball? Maybe you in c when I met Phil.
He's the reason there's a shot clock. Guys, He's the
reason there's a shot clock. No way, Yeah, yeah, corners
and Hermie's a good buddy is So I'm gonna my
go in life is the play golf with Phil Ford.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So I know what cardio session homework is going to
be tomorrow. I kid you not, I'm googling Phil Ford
shot clock. So they ran four corners.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Four corners and that's what got the n C. They
held that they were too good. They held the ball
like they'd get a four or five point six point lead.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And hold the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah. And they played the u v A in the
conference championship and the halftime score was seven nothing because
they had because u v A had Ralph Sampson And
oh yeah, this is what happens when you come to
party time. You learn, you learn ship, bro, that's what happens.
You learned ship.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Bumpa log back there. He has missed a lot of opportunities.
Hell yeah, hey, God beat him to beat you to it.
He's already.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Hey, we're already running out of time. But I got
two things I want to do. I want to talk
about baseball. We're gonna do that last real quick. Favorite
city to wrestle in.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh man, it is really hard at the end of
the day. Madison Square Garden has they they absolutely back
in the day, love to hate double J. I mean
it was they just always brought it. But they love
to hate me. They they I mean it just thundering booze,
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and that's what it's all about. But when I would
meet different folks in person in New York City. Whether
it was the accent or the double J character or
whatever it was. But I went up there on my
one of the first business trips for Tea A. So
this is, you know, two thousand and two, two thousand
and three, four right in that air. So I hadn't
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been in the garden at this point by four or
five years. But UH, pull up to a corner and
we were jumping into a meeting. And when we pulled out,
there was three cars back to back to back, and
I was in the first car. I jumped out and
the drop offs. I jump out of the car and
behind me guy's making pizza, right, he's making throwing the
pizza up and down. And I kid you not, Barney,
(32:26):
He's throwing the pizza up down. He said, double J
all this. He takes the pizza, throws it up his buddy,
he catches it. He walks outside, shakes hand, pulls out,
gets an autograph, goes back in there and keeps throwing pizzas.
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But that's now you got. Now you got show's attention.
That's because you said the word. You said the word pizza.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I got you. I didn't know if it was new
York City, but no New Yorker, the New York fan
base man, they're they're they're very you know, La is
a great market. I love performing there. London is a
good one too, San Juan porter Rico. They're all different personalities,
believe it or not. Louisville, Kentucky used to wrestle there
every Tuesday night and they were really good to me
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as a city that they get anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
They Uh Mexico too, right, I mean you were big
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, in Mexico. Cite you.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And I did some work in minor League baseball with
with some wrestlers from Mexico probably five six years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Oh you did you guys did that promotion with the
Flying Squirrels and Hispanics.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Doors and we had called Conan and a couple of
other guys. You got us. I set you that right. Also,
Cheats All Star Week twenty nineteen, Big and Rich were
our concert guests because Double J made the connection. I remember, Hell, yeah,
we're there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You go, that's right, that's right, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So cheats. Well, you're going to finish it off after
we do the baseball one last question, uh a thirty
years ago I got a phone call when I was
running the Kannapolis Intimidators with Dell Earnhardt Sr. I'm on
my back porch, I'm drinking a yingling the teams on
the road, and there's this college student on the other line,
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and he said South Carolina, and he goes, can I
have a few minutes of your time? I'm writing a paper,
long story short. This kid's name was Jamie Toole. This
kid's name was Jamie Toole. Jeff Jarrett, tell the story
about what you're doing in baseball and who you're doing
it with.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
That I cannot. I just me and Jamie were just texting.
So wow. I've obviously met all kinds of folks through
we'll call them baseball nights at Monor League, you know,
through through the years and mad respect JJ gotch and
I mean we could go through the party. I'm not
(34:49):
saying this because I'm on part of time. He's always
been my favorite, even to this day. And Jamie may
be upset that I say.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That, but yeah, eat it, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He loves you. Got there, you go anyway, met Jamie,
we hit it off, chatted it up. He was kind
of I think surprised that I was so engaged, and
I said, hey man, you guys are all about entertaining,
and you don't control who wins and loses on the field.
I control what wins and loses in the ring. And
but our same mindset anyway. So during the pandemic, you know,
(35:22):
he was like a lot of things. I mean, I
won't need, no need to get into it, but minor
league constricting, constricting. He was down in Jupiter and decided
that he wanted to go out on his own and
as you guys call it the wood bat leagues, but
the prospect league. He got a group of investors together
(35:42):
and he called me and he said, hey man, what
would you think about coming on board with Golden Rule Entertainment.
That's the name of the company. And I said, well,
tell me more about it. And I listened to it,
and I immediately look and it goes without saying I'm
not quote unquote the baseball guys as far as bat
and ball and wins and losses and curves and strikes
(36:03):
and all that kind of stuff. Although I'm a promoter.
And when Jamie said, hey man, I think you could
really fit in our group and be an ambassador and
be a promoter and bring different relationships to the table.
I jumped at it and went to my attorney and
he said, what the hell do you know about baseball?
I said, it doesn't matter, and I laid out the
vision to him. And so, yeah, it's been three years
(36:26):
ago that we came on board the group Golden Rule Entertainment, Springfield, Illinois.
We acquired our first team, did a rebranding. They used
to be called the Springfield Sliders and rebranded them and
there we are now the Springfield Lucky Horseshoes and it's
a right up your alley. You probably don't know what
a horseshoe is, but a horseshoe sandwich.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
People have said, I've had one up my ass my
whole life.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But a horseshoe sandwich is something that my man in
the back would absolutely love. It's a.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You got Joe T down, double Jay, You got Joe
T locked down to that anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And then we just rebranded, acquired our second team in Quincy, Illinois.
Came out cool looking merch man. We need to get
some it is awesome Quincy Doggie Paddlers. So we now
have two teams. We're gonna continue to expand the Golden
Rule Entertainment's the parent company that I'm a part of,
and I love it. I mean, I just can't tell
(37:22):
you how blessed is The real word that I come
up with when I say this story, is that for
me to get this opportunity and be a part of it,
that I love events, I love sports, you know, true sport.
I love true sport. I love events. I love to promote,
and so for me to get the opportunity, we had
a wrestling show at the ballpark in Springfield last year.
(37:43):
We're gonna do more of that. We're gonna bring music,
We're gonna bring wrestling, We're gonna bring all kinds of stuff.
So we're gonna continue to expand we're looking at multiple
teams right now. So I am in the yea party.
You probably I don't know. You probably hate to admit this,
but pal Me and you are in the same business.
We're in the young.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
In the same business in the moment we met each other.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Man, I appreciate you bringing that up. I love Jamie
uh and man. The thing that that I absolutely I
love a lot of things about our organization and Jamie,
but you know, he's the CEO or general manager. He
is end All Bill, but his title on email signature
and business cards is chief Storyteller and and and that
(38:26):
is really what the nuts and balls and it's not
just our organization. But we like to say baseball is
our platform, but not our purpose. And our purpose really
is in Springfield Quincy. And you can steal this. Yes,
it's about bringing the community together and that is what
we do, and it is that's right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I mean, that's that's minor league baseball, yes a t
you know, you said we call it what bat league,
but but the prospect league. Uh, And that's what our sport,
and that's what wrestling. And we bring people together in
an air where politically and otherwise everybody is on opposite
sides of the fence. You'll see in our game tonight
(39:06):
and here in Richmond, you'll see people from all walks
of life high five in each other, talking each other,
hopefully high five in the victory. Cheats. So that, that,
to me, is what you and I do for livings
has so much value to people's quality of life. And
that that that's why we do it, man, That's why
we do it. Cheats. You got one last question for double.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Jay, last one for the order double J. You mentioned
earlier your grandmother and that decision she made and how
it changed the course of your family forever. Have you
had that moment if you look back and say, your
grandmother made a decision that changed the course? What decision
did you make that you would say change the kind
of course of how how your journeys turned out?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
The third good question in a row from Cheats, Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't even begin to think
about putting myself in my grandmother's category because she literally
took her family, our family, but took because she got
into the business and started making money in which there
(40:16):
was a time when a sister worked and a brother
worked for her and the nieces and nephews, and I
mean it literally changed her generation. And obviously I'm two
generations down, but my dad and hit that generation. So
you know that that I don't even like to put
myself and I'm not in her category of literally changing.
But the thing that I you know, like when I
(40:38):
started TNA in two thousand and two, that was just
to this day, people are like, you, dude, you're absolutely crazy.
You're going to go up against Vince McMahon and compete
and this, and.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I just love That's what I love about you, man.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You I said, have the mindset and look, I never
looked at us as as competitors that I'll leave that
up to others. We came up with an alternative brand
and that I poured my heart soul into it. And
so I like to I've got five kids and I
like to let them know that I mean in this
(41:12):
dog eat dog world. And look, yes, you gotta have
money and you got to pay the bills and all this.
But the things that you really remember is that when
you have a calling and I don't want to get
biblical or spiritual, but it can be that. But when
you have a calling to do something and you just say,
hey man, I'm not gonna take no, I'm not gonna
come up with excuses. This is what kind of drives
(41:33):
me when I put my feet on the bed, I
mean on the floor from getting out of bed. That
kind of stuff is really what makes things tick. And
we're all gonna go our separate ways I'm talking about
as a family, and we'll come back home and you know,
we're together and all that kind of stuff. But whatever
drives your internal clock. And so that is something that
(41:55):
my grandmother said, screw this, I am going to work
two jobs and do what I've got to do because
I'm going to change my family's life. And so I
look at you know, maybe not change the socioeconomic status,
but I want my kids to say, bet on yourself.
I mean absolutely bet on yourself and give it a shot.
There's a lot to that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That is an amazing way to finish off this amazing show.
And we didn't even talk about how many guitar shots
have you done in your entire live Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Cheese came. I mean, and again, I'm not the baseball guy,
but I kind of feel like he came with the
ninety eight hour fastball. He didn't know sliders, no curves.
He didn't give me a little softball for me to
knock it out of the park like a simple wrestling question.
I mean, he brought the heat.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
M p missing Today he might be Wallly Pimpa the
Party Time Podcast. So how many guitar shots have you
think of delivered?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know what I want somebody because maybe a I
can answer that one day. I would love to, but
you know, I don't think they're all always.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
When people say a I think they're talking about Alan
I I did for a while, but party we got
to move on.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Laugh at us man practice. Yes, I always well, that's
another Philly story that I'll never forget it as long
as I'm living. You mean, tell it to you real quick,
you know, I'm an AI guy. I mean, yeah, it
goes the Georgetown all that kind of stuff where in Philly,
(43:36):
uh back door, come in on a w W taping,
there's all kind of I mean, it's just a lot
of mass chaos on TV this. Yeah, but I'm down
by a bunch of road cases with three or four guys,
all non basketball player, all completely they couldn't have picked whatever.
(43:56):
And they see a group coming down from way off
and it's an entourage, I mean, it is an entourage
all this, and one of the guys like, who the
hell is this coming? All this? And I said, oh
my god, I cannot believe this. Now, those yo yo's
they're all dialed in on the six two, the six seven,
(44:18):
the six', five all the big guys all blinged out
and all this kind of, stuff all, this AND i, said,
DAMN i cannot believe the size of. Him and they
look at, me and they, go he's he's six, seven
he ain't that. BIG i, go not. Him Alan iverson
(44:41):
is not a big guy and, skinny and the dude
could put up fifty Against. JORDAN i just was amazed
at him around other. Players little bitty.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Guy so when he played for The, SIXERS i went
to A Charlotte horns game set, courtside and the whole
NIGHT i did, nothing nothing but focus On Alan iverson
BECAUSE i want to see how hardy. Worked, yeah that.
Guy nobody on the court out worked.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Him no, ZERO a ton of respect for that.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Guy yeah you say you hit him over there with a, guitar.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That that's just hearing a needle choose and a few
mulah and a few. Others, well.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Chiefs my last goal in my, career before it's all,
OVER i Want Double jay to hit me over that
with a.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Guitar that's My i've got a promotion in the back
of my. Mind i'm telling, you charitable. Component i'm sure
we could. Get you've been in the business thirty six
thirty seven. Years we can probably call in a lot of,
favors raise a lot of, money have a sellout crowd
(45:48):
just by the people that you've pissed off in your.
Career there you, go, here we, go here we get.
Him hell, yeah hell, yeah put my thirty eight special guitar.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Down. YEAH i can't wait to talk about. That Jeff,
jarrett thank you so much for being On Party. Time
you're you're not only A hall Of fame, wrestler but
you're a hall of fame. PERSON i am, very very
flattered to tell people That jeff jareded is one of
my great. Friends AND i tell them that all the.
Time thank you for allowing me to name drop your.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Name oh, likewise but, man especially in my baseball. World,
hey you wouldn't happen to know there's a gal Over.
Parney you Know. PARNEY i love. IT i love WHEN
i get, Baseball, like how do you know party don't
worry about. It that gives me street, Cred you know it,
does but it gives me street. Cred like it's. HILARIOUS
(46:41):
i love. It, oh we go way back, anyway so we.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
DO i feel like we know each other a lot
longer than the time we've known each.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Other you got to figure it.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Out, yeah party, time you never know what's going to.
Happen party, time you never know who we're going to
talk to party, time you never know the stories and party,
time you never know how Good chief's questions are going to,
be and today they were damn.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Good hell, Y'all hell YEAH a double.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Jay thank, you, Buddy thanks.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
GUYS i appreciate y'all Have.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
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my man Joe T back there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Joe T.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You excited? Oh yeah, all right, don't yo, I'm a
here so loud it kind of hurts. And then Party
Pop Club MP on the mic, mi Ia MP on
the mica today. But the one and only cheats is
with us Cheats. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm working all my strut. You're working on your shrut
for today. All right, then, and here's the reason why
Party Time's all about relationships. At Monor League Baseball has
brought to this guy party over the last thirty six years,
and it goes all through the world, all through the sports.
And our guest today for this inning is a person
(02:26):
who is a world renowned Hall of Famer, not only
as a wrestler, a professional wrestler, but as a person.
And he's yet another person that I met in sports,
that he and I met and it was like we've
known each other our whole life. So I'm really excited.
Once again, have no idea where this conversation is going
(02:46):
to go. These are conversations, not interviews. But please everyone,
welcome the one and only Jeff Jarrett to party time. Jajy,
what's up.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You're supposed to be clapping? You said you got this
strut ready supposed to be clapp than my man. Oh,
thank you, party. I'm excited to be here. I'm very happy.
And as you were kind of given the introduction, you said,
thirty six years. You know this year I started April
of eighty six. April six of eighty six is when
I started wrestling, So I'm you know, if we do
(03:18):
the math here, this is going into my uh yeah,
thirty eighth year or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You got me by two. You got me by two,
But you've been thrown on the mat a lot more
than I have.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I started like in third grade, so it's hard for
you to get into minor league baseball in third grade.
But no I did. It's a little bit you. You
probably did the the college thing, or before they kicked
you out, I mean, before you decided.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I had a three point seven my first year in college,
one point nine the first semester one point eight to
second semester.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There you go, buddy, they were the plus seven years
of your life. So, uh, where did you go to college? Party?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I actually played college basketball in Harsford, Pennsylvania for a
Division III school, psych College. I hold the record there
for most missed shots in my career and also the
more beers illegally drank on a Christian campus. But everybody
that listens to this from a psychollege that's allegedly that
(04:18):
really didn't happen, I hear you, although although it did
so Yeah, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which I'm sure you've probably wrestled
in Harrisburg many times.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And as you say that, I didn't realize, man, all
the years we've known each other. I played one year
of college ball, and I had all the expectations of
going back and the rusting bug bit me and yeah,
where were you at for that? In Nashville Quanas Junior College,
(04:46):
my kind of claimed fame. Party is started every game
my freshman year. It was I am to this day,
I am a basketball junkie. I'll watch I'll watch the
late game of you know, throw in any two teams
Clippers who were they're good now, But are they're okay?
You know a late name Clippers, Seattle, whatever, I watch it,
(05:09):
Seattle's not even there. But you know I am a Laker.
I did watch anything, but no Aquannas junior college, they
won the national championship the year after I left, so
I got him ready went into wrestling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My nickname in college was Parneye. But on the basketball
team they called me Big Mac because I couldn't jump
over one, but I could eat a bunch of them,
so Big Mac.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You mentioned playing basketball in college yourself, and I did
not know that, and you're right. We've known each other
a bunch of years, and so it's just an example
in relationships you always find out something right. Yeah, but
the way we met is another connection. Elliott Sadler also
played was going to play college basketball and James Madison
and you and I met through Hermie. Hermie and Elliott
(05:54):
were on season one. I think it was episode eight,
I believe something like any eight. Elliott and her we're on.
We had a great time with them. Oh boy, but
that's just how it happens. Like like I remember, Hermie
either texted me or called me and said there's this
guy I need you to meet, and it was you,
And I'm dead serious. I don't even remember how our
(06:15):
first conversation went, because I feel like we known each
other our whole life, and I think that's just really
special for me, you know, to have a lot of
people like that in my life, of particularly you. Do
you remember when we first met?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, it was God party, We're going back. No, I
don't remember, but it's it's Hermia. The connection. I want
to say it was about twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I bet it was before then, but we because we
did a GFW show here.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh, that's that's why I was saying, So that the
GFW show would have been fourteen fifteen. We knew each
other before that, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Think, yeah, it might have even been, but it was Hermie.
But but anyway, we'll give Hermi the credit. But I
feel like I've known you for like thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So here's what I do remember. Hermie s Yeah, I
got a buddy of mine and all this kind of stuff.
And it wasn't like thirty seconds later, Hey, Parney, buddy
of mine, Jeff, here's a connect text and off running
and we jumped on the call.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well it's been great. I think we're both like minded because,
you know, in the wrestling world, one of the things
I've always loved about you. You're a great promoter, You're
a thinker, you're a risk taker, but you also are
a problem solver. And that's the way I worked my
whole career. We started yes and go backwards from there.
When people ask us to do something, you said, you
(07:30):
have you called the wrestling bug, But you got it.
You kind of cheated on it, you got it, honest, right.
I mean your dad, your dad's a legend in the
wrestling business. You want to tell our party time listeners
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, you know what. I'm one of five kids, and
so my grandmother she did everything but Russell. She got
into the business in nineteen forty six. She walked into
a shoe store in downtown Nashville. She was a single
bomb of two and needed a second job, and there
were two signs out front. And I always love to
(08:03):
tell the story and just kind of think, how this
one decision. Uh. My grandmother was one of h five yeah,
one of five poverty. They absolutely came from absolutely nothing,
kind of a rough part of Nashville, and she was
a hard worker, and my grandmother literally changed kind of
(08:25):
the course of our entire family in so many ways.
But there were two signs outside, and it says help
needed and the other sign said wrestling tickets for sale.
And she walked in and the guy run in the
shoe store said, hey, how can I help you? And
she said, uh, you know, how can I help you?
She said, I saw both signs out front. Uh you know,
(08:47):
she said, She said, I saw the sign out front,
and he said which one? She said both, because you know,
she wanted a job, but you know, the wrestling tickets
for sale and she wanted you know, was enamored by that.
And then she parlayed that into what we would call
today as a CFO. She got into it. Like I said,
(09:07):
she did everything but Russell, but worked her way up.
And then she actually ended up promoting towns. And my
dad was a you know, a junior high kid and
hanging around the box office and all that, and he
actually got his hardship license back in the day, and
he started promoting towns with her, and then he started
running his own and then next thing, you know, he
marries my mom has two kids, and then uh played
(09:30):
football in college but got out of that and went
into wrestling, and it literally the wrestling business has put groceries,
I'll say, on the Jared's table for a long time,
eighty years, and that one decision she made to get
a second job, and she's you know, she was really
my first mentor. A father son relationship sometimes can be
a little bit difficult, a little bit tough, uh, But
(09:52):
she was a real mentor and really taught me so
many fundamentals, not necessarily about wrestling, but about life and
about business and and those kind of things. And then
obviously I broke in and my dad was no doubt
the mentor in the resting business. But yeah, I get it, honest.
But I bring up that I'm one in five kids.
I'm the only sibling that got into the business that, yeah,
(10:16):
nobody else really had any interest. My brother has a
super successful construction company in town. You know, my sister's
a homemaker, and my brother's into the finance business, and
so it's just but I'm the only one that, like
I said, I got the buck. I loved it, literally
party and you know that's why you know the different
(10:36):
stories and you run across people. I am very grateful.
I truly feel like I've really never worked a day
in my life. I loved the business from the very
first wrestling match I.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Went to, Well, we'll get this in a little bit.
But another reason we connect is because later on in
life and I want to make sure we make time
for this. You're involved in the baseball business as well,
and I think one of the reasons we've connected with
each other so well through the years is behind the scenes.
Minor league baseball and professional wrestling is a lot the same, right,
(11:09):
because it's all about the fan experience and having the
fans like behind in the locker room, in the locker
room here for the Squirrels and the Biscuits down in Montgommer.
You've been in both places. People want to know what
it's like behind the scenes, and I've watched a bunch
I'm a wrestling junkie, as you know, and I watch
a bunch of shows about the behind the scenes. You
(11:31):
have so many stories about what goes on in the
locker room. And this party Time show is not that long.
Is there like one that just when I say, JJ
tell cheats and the party Time listeners something that's really
special in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
What do you got oh man, oh god, it's a question.
I know, as I say that is such a loaded question,
you're gonna have to throw out a little more bait there,
but you know to and again we both played basketball,
So the locker room in sports, if you will, it's
(12:09):
just like you guys, you know, you you have, you know,
pictures and catchers report. You kind of have that routine
of pictures and and I'm not the expert on this,
but pictures and catchers reward, and then you get rolling,
and then you have you know, pre season, and then
you have opening Day, and then you try to struggle
through April, May and June and by the All Star
(12:29):
break you get this and playoff contention and just that
whole cadence and hey man, playoffs and where are we going?
But it's a season. I mean, it literally is a season.
And you know, our business is called sports entertainment, so
from a sporting aspect you can kind of see it.
But you know, a sport has opening day in the
championship series rock and roll, we'll call it the entertainment side,
(12:53):
or a television show has an episode, they have a season.
Rock and roll guys come up with an album or
country mut music. They go on tour, and the tour
starts in weather breaks, so we'll say kind of March
and runs through October, noveer, whatever it may be. Wrestling
has no seasons. It's fifty two weeks a year. And
I say that in that that really gives a such
(13:17):
a in a lot of ways, a set point, but
almost kind of a disconnect. That, hey man, that you're
in a locker room together and there are brothers and
sisters that run up and down the roads, and you know,
Kevin Nash's a mutual friend of mine, and you know,
in nineteen ninety four, we probably spent more time together
than we did our wives. I mean, that's just the
(13:40):
reality of it. I mean, we were on the road.
I think we did seven or nine international trips and
those were a minimum of ten days. And so you
just start doing the math and all that. But when
you when you enter into a professional wrestling locker room,
it is the cadence of twelve months out of the year.
So when people are in and out, in and out.
(14:02):
You can see a guy, uh, you know, at a show,
and it may be his last night, or he may
be going a different direction. You may not see him
for a couple of years, literally a couple of years,
and then when he walks back in the dressing room,
oh man, what's going on? You kind of pick where
you're left off. So there's a there's a unique kind
of form of camaraderie. So that's on the one side,
(14:23):
and then the other side is it's kind of a
disconnect because you know, we all know full well that
nothing's guaranteed. There can be an injuries, there can be contracts, views,
you may be gone tomorrow. So that camaraderie is a
little different, and I think that gives it bears so
(14:44):
many different kinds of fruit. I'll say that in sports,
you have a season and you may not get along
with this guy at all. Weaseball, go home, get out,
or hey man, let's suck it up and for the team,
let's win the championship. That that is not the case
(15:05):
because team ball, you know, it is team first. Wrestling buddy,
it's dog eat dog world, and there is the nature
of the beasts. And you know, Kevin uh Nash always uses,
as I bring up again, you know, it's called show
business for for for a reason, it's not called show friends.
Uh And so you you. You gotta kind of look
(15:27):
at it through that perspective, and so, uh, you know,
a story, I don't know. There's so many different practical
jokes that uh time that really pass time. And I mean,
you know, the same hotels and the same cadence and
the same routine and all that kind of stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Let me let me change it up a little bit. Then,
Is there like.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I can give you an Owen story that is always
but go ahead?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Is there is there like how do y'all did y'all
y'all get like in these days a text for something
that tells you who you're going to be up against?
Is there like anybody when you saw the card in
the lineup you went, oh shit, I gotta I gotta
be in the ring with this guy. Is there like
somebody that was your favorite to wrestle against and somebody
that was your least favorite to wrestle against.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, as you just lifted up the phone, as we know, party,
that changed everything. We are in the age of instantaneous
exchange of information. Back in the day, we used to
get a stack of airline tickets. It would be three
weeks at a time, paper tickets, and that's what you
better not lose that shit because that's your stack of
cut And then you had your booking sheets and you
(16:34):
would know because we you know, WWF we were running
two towns a night, sometimes three towns a night, and
you would be on different runs and you could pretty
much say, all right, you know, back in the day,
I know, I'm wrestling raisor ramone for for ten straight
days and that kind of stuff. Nowadays, the cadence is different.
It's so much more big show mentality. And there are
(16:55):
many many instances when you find out what you're doing
by Instagram X or Facebook. Oh the cards out, this
is who I got. Uh, there's such a huge churn. Uh.
And that's just that. That's that's how it that's kind
of how it goes. Yeah. So I can give you stories,
but I don't know where you want me to start
(17:16):
or stop at. Because when you said thirty five minutes,
I said, oh boy, yeah, we're in trouble being part
of your talkers.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We're in trouble. Well, and she says too, and she's
we're gonna get you on you for for one of
your one shots here in the second.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I haven't heard of hell yeah once when I've been
talking Joe. Okay, he's he's wait, he's a way.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He hasn't had a spaghetti yet today, JJ, So you
got to feed the animals. Uh, let me go from
the from the in the ring stuff like that too.
For wrestling on the mic, who's your favorite who's your
favorite mic worker? Of all times? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Boy party going through the years, there's so many good ones.
But you know, I was my dad's business partner. People
know him as Jerry the King Lawler. Lawler had a
real I think he's one of the best to ever
do it. But man, you talk about he could go
do comedy, he could do go do serious stuff. He
could go make he can make you cry, he can
(18:16):
make you laugh. He's really really good. And the evolution
of the promo in our industry, like everything has has
just radically changed. Uh. You know, in the nineties there
were a different style, and then in the two thousand
and twenty ten and now everything, like the world we
live in is sound bites and it's it's much faster base. Yeah,
(18:38):
but I still believe the art of delivering the right promo,
like the fundamentals of our business, like and you know baseball,
if you can do the fundamentals. Good buddy, sign me up,
You're gonna go money. And that's the same with rustling.
If you can cut a good promo, you're gonna make money.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, I grew up in Charlotte, as I think you know,
and the Jim Crockett promotion. This is what I was
raised on. My grandfather used to take me to the
parks Charlotte Parks Center every Wednesday night for the for
the Saturday taping. Uh And and I could go on
and on about all the people I saw there while hooping.
Daniel Andre to Giant Superstar, Paul Jones, Rene Gule, Tony Atlas,
a superstar. He was my favorite, Tony Atlas. Uh So
(19:18):
those are the childhood memories. So this is this is
where I'm going to go with this. In my League baseball,
we always say we're in the memory making business. But
I honestly feel like you guys in the wrestling business
are in the memory making business too.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right, Oh, no doubt, And that that is something that
and I don't know how in tune you are with
the current world of professional wrestling, but there is the
guys in the business today. The athleticism is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Watch it. I meant, I watch your A W stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's such on a different level. And I think the
same in the n b A. You see those guys
hitting those threes from not not not a foot outside
of the line, you know the report I'm talking about
a stride or half court, and they make the spectacular
truly look routine, like the shooting drill. And so I
(20:10):
think as an audience, whether it's basketball, baseball, you know, Otani, whatever,
they make everything look so easy, and I think in
a lot of ways it almost downplays the reality. And
I go back to man if if if you can
(20:31):
really make somebody feel a memory, a moment, because you
know me and you could probably right now, I could
probably come off the top of my head ten wrestling
moments really don't have anything to do with the match,
doesn't have anything to do with the spectacular moves, doesn't
have anything to do with that. You know, a Flare promo,
(20:51):
a Jerry Lawler angle. You know, you could get Hogan
or Austin and I mean we could go on and all,
but the moments in professional wrestling, obviously we got a
little bit cut above you guys. We can script our
moments and in the sporting world, you kind of try
(21:13):
to capture them when you can get them. But it
is all the same. That is why, And I do
you know the bodily baseball mentality. I've always had just
a crazy mad respect for you guys in the fact
that your roster in a lot of ways is there's
a revolving door. So you guys can only control what
(21:34):
you can control, and that's when they come through the turnstile.
You got to make this customer or this consumer enjoy
themselves and feel good about spending their money and coming back.
You know, in our world of wrestling, we've got to
do that good versus evil good triumphs. It's that, you know,
whether it's a seven to seventy or a seven year
old kid or a seven year old grandpa, they enjoyed
(21:56):
the shows. It's the same mentality.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's the same thing. I always say. People say, what's
your target market, and I say, a beating heart cheat.
Sure up, buddy, I'm sorry it's taking me so long
to get to you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
With jeff Erre as a talker, man, he's a talker
nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
This is fantastic, Uh, doublej you said from the first
wrestling match you knew you loved the business and when
you got the bug.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I always like to ask professional athletes, especially minor league
baseball players, when did you realize, like internally, when did
you realize, like, I'm really good at this, I'm better
than the people I look around? When did you realize
like that?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Aha? I made it moment you just hit a grand slam.
I've never been asked that, and I've been done. Come on,
are you serious for thirty seven years? Yes, there you
go right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The animal just woke up into behind me right here.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I say, okay, so off the top of my head
thinking through that, I'm by the grace of God. But
I've always man, throw me a ball, I can shoot it.
I can throw it. At the athletic side of it
always came super easy easy to me. I was super shy,
(23:13):
I mean, really bashful. I love to be around people
and talking all that, but getting in front of a
mic doing a program.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm an introvert as well. I feel your pain.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, but no, when I was, you know, me having
to do that first promo at eighteen, I was scared
to death, and so I've always I think that's part
of kind of a lot of my inner drive that
I reached in the first seven years of my career.
I worked for the Family Promotion, worked in Japan and
(23:42):
Texas and Puerto Rico and around. But I'm you know,
I was in home base, and I always wanted to
get better and get better. Because I hadn't reached the
big time, get to the WWF. Well, get to the WWF,
became Intercontinental Champion, I still wanted to be and I
got to keep getting better, keeping good and better. So
I think, even to this day and ebbs and flows
and Hall of Fame and all that kind of stuff,
(24:04):
I still think my inner clock is I want to
be better. I don't ever want to lose that. And
so your question was, when did you ever think I
was really really good at that? I can't say that
I've really sat back and said, nah, I've always known
I can be better. I really, to this day, I
haven't been taling. And now I've got different challenges, you know,
for a fifty seven year old guy getting in there
(24:26):
with a guy. I used to joke this thing, Man,
Hey kid, I've got more shower time than you've got
ring time. Well that's a go. Well, you say, because
a lot of the guys I'm wrestling right now, I've
been wrestling ten years longer than they've been freaking alive,
(24:48):
so that I don't lose sight of that at all.
Like this morning, I was at the gym and Buddy
walked by me and he said, he just shook his head,
and I said what He said, what are you doing?
You're killing yourself. I'm like, I gotta stay in shape.
I truly look at it that way, and with all
the technology and recovery abilities and that kind of stuff.
So I love it. I love it today more than
(25:09):
I did when I broke in.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I never worked a day in my life, even though
it was hard work, even though you're here at the
ballpark twenty hours a day. Sometimes, like people that have
to sell insurance and shit like that, I don't get
how they live life. Man, I would I would not
be happy. Jeez, you did such a good job on
your one shot. I'm giving you another one.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Here we go, cheats, batter up, brother, All right, I'm
up again.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So you know this double j When people meet you
when you're walking around, they're starstruck. They're just in awe
to be able to see someone that they've seen work
and admire and so forth. Has there ever been a
moment in your life where you met someone that actually
had you that made you take a step back?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Holy shit, cheats, why did you eat for breakfast today?
He's as smart as damn hell right now, she eats.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I wish my wife Karen was on here right now
because she could not believe what I did. And it's
not that big a deal, but she's just like, I've
never seen you this way. So I'm in Los Angeles
and it's a yeah. There was a lot of important
people there in the TV and IS production had a production.
(26:22):
There was an agent. The agent brought his bass, which
was quote unquote as we all referred to, the big
big balls. But anyway, there was about fourteen of us
at this lunch, and the where I was sitting, I
was sitting. I say this diplomatic, but I was sitting
at the head of the end of one table.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But it always means you got to pick up the check, bro.
You gotta be careful with that shit.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But anyway, it was backed up into the corners because
when we walked in, Hey, you sit down there and
all this kind of stuff. So there's like six on
each side. But it's a pretty tight space in LA,
it's real spread out. But anyway, I'm sitting there and
we're appetizers are gone, the silence are gone, the meals
(27:04):
are served, We're mid meal. I mean, we're into this.
This is all this, And out of the corner of
my eye I see getting out of a car and
he's walking down this long sidewalk and all this, and
I'm going, oh my god, that's him. I Am not
losing this opportunity. I jumped up. Karen goes, what the
(27:26):
fuck are you doing? I said, and she said, yeah,
I said, and I just said, I shunned her. I said,
just wait anyway, I got up, got int of there,
I walked up. I said, mister logo, Jerry West, Jeff Jarrett.
I want to Yeah. I read his book. H He's
(27:46):
a West Virginia boy. It came up the hard one.
I mean, if you really know his story growing up
and then how he succeeds. Didn't just kind of succeed,
he succeeded and then he transitioned as we all know
in the executive that that I mean, you know, look
(28:08):
a boy from West Virginia who had a rough upbringing
and he literally I'm a junkie. Going back to the
he he was the architect of Showtime, which in my
opinion was, Look, we can talk about the steel curtain
of the of the seventies and the cowboys of the seventies,
and yeah, that that kind of puts some showbiz into it.
(28:29):
But to me, the eighties Showtime took what we know
today is modern sport as a as a as a
big show piece that we looked at it. We don't
look at you know, Fox does a great job, but
but I don't think we look at sports the same
way that that folks did. And I think Jerry is
a is a mastermind architect. He wanted to put together
(28:51):
a team, but the branding and all that. Anyway, so
Jerry West and all of the great and Karen had
She's just like what And I said, you don't know
this to her dad's passed away. But her dad knew
the story. And we had had conversations since I got home,
and I'm telling my father in law about the story
and he laughed and he chuckled. But anyway, Karen to
this day will say, I've never seen Jeff before or after,
(29:15):
and I've met, I mean in the sport world, Jordan Gretzky,
uh so so many. And I'm very respectful. Isaiah Thomas
was my favorite point guard, no disrespect. I don't think
Magic is a point guard. I think he's uh he's
But anyway, the logo, man, the logo, that's a great one.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's a great one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Good question, cheat you and.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's And it's funny guys when you're like, you're right,
you've met everybody. I've not met as many people as you,
but I met a bunch of people. And but there's
always somebody. There's always somebody that you can't really speak to.
And for me, believe it or not, JJ mine was
was Phil Ford the best point guard in the history
(30:03):
of college basketball? Maybe you in c when I met Phil.
He's the reason there's a shot clock. Guys, He's the
reason there's a shot clock. No way, Yeah, yeah, corners
and Hermie's a good buddy is So I'm gonna my
go in life is the play golf with Phil Ford.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So I know what cardio session homework is going to
be tomorrow. I kid you not, I'm googling Phil Ford
shot clock. So they ran four corners.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Four corners and that's what got the n C. They
held that they were too good. They held the ball
like they'd get a four or five point six point lead.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And hold the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah. And they played the u v A in the
conference championship and the halftime score was seven nothing because
they had because u v A had Ralph Sampson And
oh yeah, this is what happens when you come to
party time. You learn, you learn ship, bro, that's what happens.
You learned ship.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Bumpa log back there. He has missed a lot of opportunities.
Hell yeah, hey, God beat him to beat you to it.
He's already.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Hey, we're already running out of time. But I got
two things I want to do. I want to talk
about baseball. We're gonna do that last real quick. Favorite
city to wrestle in.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh man, it is really hard at the end of
the day. Madison Square Garden has they they absolutely back
in the day, love to hate double J. I mean
it was they just always brought it. But they love
to hate me. They they I mean it just thundering booze,
(31:44):
and that's what it's all about. But when I would
meet different folks in person in New York City. Whether
it was the accent or the double J character or
whatever it was. But I went up there on my
one of the first business trips for Tea A. So
this is, you know, two thousand and two, two thousand
and three, four right in that air. So I hadn't
(32:05):
been in the garden at this point by four or
five years. But UH, pull up to a corner and
we were jumping into a meeting. And when we pulled out,
there was three cars back to back to back, and
I was in the first car. I jumped out and
the drop offs. I jump out of the car and
behind me guy's making pizza, right, he's making throwing the
pizza up and down. And I kid you not, Barney,
(32:26):
He's throwing the pizza up down. He said, double J
all this. He takes the pizza, throws it up his buddy,
he catches it. He walks outside, shakes hand, pulls out,
gets an autograph, goes back in there and keeps throwing pizzas.
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But that's now you got. Now you got show's attention.
That's because you said the word. You said the word pizza.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I got you. I didn't know if it was new
York City, but no New Yorker, the New York fan
base man, they're they're they're very you know, La is
a great market. I love performing there. London is a
good one too, San Juan porter Rico. They're all different personalities,
believe it or not. Louisville, Kentucky used to wrestle there
every Tuesday night and they were really good to me
(33:10):
as a city that they get anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
They Uh Mexico too, right, I mean you were big
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, in Mexico. Cite you.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And I did some work in minor League baseball with
with some wrestlers from Mexico probably five six years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Oh you did you guys did that promotion with the
Flying Squirrels and Hispanics.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Doors and we had called Conan and a couple of
other guys. You got us. I set you that right. Also,
Cheats All Star Week twenty nineteen, Big and Rich were
our concert guests because Double J made the connection. I remember, Hell, yeah,
we're there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You go, that's right, that's right, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So cheats. Well, you're going to finish it off after
we do the baseball one last question, uh a thirty
years ago I got a phone call when I was
running the Kannapolis Intimidators with Dell Earnhardt Sr. I'm on
my back porch, I'm drinking a yingling the teams on
the road, and there's this college student on the other line,
(34:13):
and he said South Carolina, and he goes, can I
have a few minutes of your time? I'm writing a paper,
long story short. This kid's name was Jamie Toole. This
kid's name was Jamie Toole. Jeff Jarrett, tell the story
about what you're doing in baseball and who you're doing
it with.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
That I cannot. I just me and Jamie were just texting.
So wow. I've obviously met all kinds of folks through
we'll call them baseball nights at Monor League, you know,
through through the years and mad respect JJ gotch and
I mean we could go through the party. I'm not
(34:49):
saying this because I'm on part of time. He's always
been my favorite, even to this day. And Jamie may
be upset that I say.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That, but yeah, eat it, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He loves you. Got there, you go anyway, met Jamie,
we hit it off, chatted it up. He was kind
of I think surprised that I was so engaged, and
I said, hey man, you guys are all about entertaining,
and you don't control who wins and loses on the field.
I control what wins and loses in the ring. And
but our same mindset anyway. So during the pandemic, you know,
(35:22):
he was like a lot of things. I mean, I
won't need, no need to get into it, but minor
league constricting, constricting. He was down in Jupiter and decided
that he wanted to go out on his own and
as you guys call it the wood bat leagues, but
the prospect league. He got a group of investors together
(35:42):
and he called me and he said, hey man, what
would you think about coming on board with Golden Rule Entertainment.
That's the name of the company. And I said, well,
tell me more about it. And I listened to it,
and I immediately look and it goes without saying I'm
not quote unquote the baseball guys as far as bat
and ball and wins and losses and curves and strikes
(36:03):
and all that kind of stuff. Although I'm a promoter.
And when Jamie said, hey man, I think you could
really fit in our group and be an ambassador and
be a promoter and bring different relationships to the table.
I jumped at it and went to my attorney and
he said, what the hell do you know about baseball?
I said, it doesn't matter, and I laid out the
vision to him. And so, yeah, it's been three years
(36:26):
ago that we came on board the group Golden Rule Entertainment, Springfield, Illinois.
We acquired our first team, did a rebranding. They used
to be called the Springfield Sliders and rebranded them and
there we are now the Springfield Lucky Horseshoes and it's
a right up your alley. You probably don't know what
a horseshoe is, but a horseshoe sandwich.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
People have said, I've had one up my ass my
whole life.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But a horseshoe sandwich is something that my man in
the back would absolutely love. It's a.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You got Joe T down, double Jay, You got Joe
T locked down to that anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And then we just rebranded, acquired our second team in Quincy, Illinois.
Came out cool looking merch man. We need to get
some it is awesome Quincy Doggie Paddlers. So we now
have two teams. We're gonna continue to expand the Golden
Rule Entertainment's the parent company that I'm a part of,
and I love it. I mean, I just can't tell
(37:22):
you how blessed is The real word that I come
up with when I say this story, is that for
me to get this opportunity and be a part of it,
that I love events, I love sports, you know, true sport.
I love true sport. I love events. I love to promote,
and so for me to get the opportunity, we had
a wrestling show at the ballpark in Springfield last year.
(37:43):
We're gonna do more of that. We're gonna bring music,
We're gonna bring wrestling, We're gonna bring all kinds of stuff.
So we're gonna continue to expand we're looking at multiple
teams right now. So I am in the yea party.
You probably I don't know. You probably hate to admit this,
but pal Me and you are in the same business.
We're in the young.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
In the same business in the moment we met each other.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Man, I appreciate you bringing that up. I love Jamie
uh and man. The thing that that I absolutely I
love a lot of things about our organization and Jamie,
but you know, he's the CEO or general manager. He
is end All Bill, but his title on email signature
and business cards is chief Storyteller and and and that
(38:26):
is really what the nuts and balls and it's not
just our organization. But we like to say baseball is
our platform, but not our purpose. And our purpose really
is in Springfield Quincy. And you can steal this. Yes,
it's about bringing the community together and that is what
we do, and it is that's right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I mean, that's that's minor league baseball, yes a t
you know, you said we call it what bat league,
but but the prospect league. Uh, And that's what our sport,
and that's what wrestling. And we bring people together in
an air where politically and otherwise everybody is on opposite
sides of the fence. You'll see in our game tonight
(39:06):
and here in Richmond, you'll see people from all walks
of life high five in each other, talking each other,
hopefully high five in the victory. Cheats. So that, that,
to me, is what you and I do for livings
has so much value to people's quality of life. And
that that that's why we do it, man, That's why
we do it. Cheats. You got one last question for double.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Jay, last one for the order double J. You mentioned
earlier your grandmother and that decision she made and how
it changed the course of your family forever. Have you
had that moment if you look back and say, your
grandmother made a decision that changed the course? What decision
did you make that you would say change the kind
of course of how how your journeys turned out?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
The third good question in a row from Cheats, Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't even begin to think
about putting myself in my grandmother's category because she literally
took her family, our family, but took because she got
into the business and started making money in which there
(40:16):
was a time when a sister worked and a brother
worked for her and the nieces and nephews, and I
mean it literally changed her generation. And obviously I'm two
generations down, but my dad and hit that generation. So
you know that that I don't even like to put
myself and I'm not in her category of literally changing.
But the thing that I you know, like when I
(40:38):
started TNA in two thousand and two, that was just
to this day, people are like, you, dude, you're absolutely crazy.
You're going to go up against Vince McMahon and compete
and this, and.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I just love That's what I love about you, man.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You I said, have the mindset and look, I never
looked at us as as competitors that I'll leave that
up to others. We came up with an alternative brand
and that I poured my heart soul into it. And
so I like to I've got five kids and I
like to let them know that I mean in this
(41:12):
dog eat dog world. And look, yes, you gotta have
money and you got to pay the bills and all this.
But the things that you really remember is that when
you have a calling and I don't want to get
biblical or spiritual, but it can be that. But when
you have a calling to do something and you just say,
hey man, I'm not gonna take no, I'm not gonna
come up with excuses. This is what kind of drives
(41:33):
me when I put my feet on the bed, I
mean on the floor from getting out of bed. That
kind of stuff is really what makes things tick. And
we're all gonna go our separate ways I'm talking about
as a family, and we'll come back home and you know,
we're together and all that kind of stuff. But whatever
drives your internal clock. And so that is something that
(41:55):
my grandmother said, screw this, I am going to work
two jobs and do what I've got to do because
I'm going to change my family's life. And so I
look at you know, maybe not change the socioeconomic status,
but I want my kids to say, bet on yourself.
I mean absolutely bet on yourself and give it a shot.
There's a lot to that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That is an amazing way to finish off this amazing show.
And we didn't even talk about how many guitar shots
have you done in your entire live Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Cheese came. I mean, and again, I'm not the baseball guy,
but I kind of feel like he came with the
ninety eight hour fastball. He didn't know sliders, no curves.
He didn't give me a little softball for me to
knock it out of the park like a simple wrestling question.
I mean, he brought the heat.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
M p missing Today he might be Wallly Pimpa the
Party Time Podcast. So how many guitar shots have you
think of delivered?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know what I want somebody because maybe a I
can answer that one day. I would love to, but
you know, I don't think they're all always.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
When people say a I think they're talking about Alan
I I did for a while, but party we got
to move on.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Laugh at us man practice. Yes, I always well, that's
another Philly story that I'll never forget it as long
as I'm living. You mean, tell it to you real quick,
you know, I'm an AI guy. I mean, yeah, it
goes the Georgetown all that kind of stuff where in Philly,
(43:36):
uh back door, come in on a w W taping,
there's all kind of I mean, it's just a lot
of mass chaos on TV this. Yeah, but I'm down
by a bunch of road cases with three or four guys,
all non basketball player, all completely they couldn't have picked whatever.
(43:56):
And they see a group coming down from way off
and it's an entourage, I mean, it is an entourage
all this, and one of the guys like, who the
hell is this coming? All this? And I said, oh
my god, I cannot believe this. Now, those yo yo's
they're all dialed in on the six two, the six seven,
(44:18):
the six', five all the big guys all blinged out
and all this kind of, stuff all, this AND i, said,
DAMN i cannot believe the size of. Him and they
look at, me and they, go he's he's six, seven
he ain't that. BIG i, go not. Him Alan iverson
(44:41):
is not a big guy and, skinny and the dude
could put up fifty Against. JORDAN i just was amazed
at him around other. Players little bitty.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Guy so when he played for The, SIXERS i went
to A Charlotte horns game set, courtside and the whole
NIGHT i did, nothing nothing but focus On Alan iverson
BECAUSE i want to see how hardy. Worked, yeah that.
Guy nobody on the court out worked.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Him no, ZERO a ton of respect for that.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Guy yeah you say you hit him over there with a, guitar.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That that's just hearing a needle choose and a few
mulah and a few. Others, well.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Chiefs my last goal in my, career before it's all,
OVER i Want Double jay to hit me over that
with a.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Guitar that's My i've got a promotion in the back
of my. Mind i'm telling, you charitable. Component i'm sure
we could. Get you've been in the business thirty six
thirty seven. Years we can probably call in a lot of,
favors raise a lot of, money have a sellout crowd
(45:48):
just by the people that you've pissed off in your.
Career there you, go, here we, go here we get.
Him hell, yeah hell, yeah put my thirty eight special guitar.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Down. YEAH i can't wait to talk about. That Jeff,
jarrett thank you so much for being On Party. Time
you're you're not only A hall Of fame, wrestler but
you're a hall of fame. PERSON i am, very very
flattered to tell people That jeff jareded is one of
my great. Friends AND i tell them that all the.
Time thank you for allowing me to name drop your.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Name oh, likewise but, man especially in my baseball. World,
hey you wouldn't happen to know there's a gal Over.
Parney you Know. PARNEY i love. IT i love WHEN
i get, Baseball, like how do you know party don't
worry about. It that gives me street, Cred you know it,
does but it gives me street. Cred like it's. HILARIOUS
(46:41):
i love. It, oh we go way back, anyway so we.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
DO i feel like we know each other a lot
longer than the time we've known each.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Other you got to figure it.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Out, yeah party, time you never know what's going to.
Happen party, time you never know who we're going to
talk to party, time you never know the stories and party,
time you never know how Good chief's questions are going to,
be and today they were damn.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Good hell, Y'all hell YEAH a double.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Jay thank, you, Buddy thanks.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
GUYS i appreciate y'all Have.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Meil thank you for listening to this ending Of Partie,
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