A Varied Perspective with Justin Williams

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
He gets no better than this. You are now in
June to perspectives with Big Bang Bang. Let's get straight
to it.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to perspective with Bank Today. I got my brother,
my friend, my homie, justin William.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
What's uping my brother? My brother? How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bless me?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
How you feeling?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I feeling lovely.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
For sure? Man. It's always good to have a brother
sitting across from me. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I really I'm really digging this perspective with Bank man,
because it's like as soon as I get in here,
I go.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Into therapy mode. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I instantly start feeling like I'm sitting in therapy section. You
know what I'm saying now, I'm saying, I'm receiving therapy.
Just have a conversation with real people, you know what
I'm saying, and trading perspective.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
How you feeling? How you feeling?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
First off, Man, I'm gonna tell you I needed this today,
Like I was really like waiting for this one today, man,
just to kind of release managers, chop it up with
my brother. Manager, just kind of get some stuff off
the chest and clear ahead, like you need that sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay for people who might not know you. You know
what I'm saying, just tapping in with you. I like
to let people get their own introduction to the people
who justin Williams is.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Look, man, I'm a father, I'm a son. You know
my husband, you know, twenty six years in the hotel business.
Started from the bottom, kind of came up from there.
I'm the managing My title is the managing director Overstone Mountains,

(01:40):
so I oversee two hotels plus the two golf courses
that are there. But hospitality is what I do. But
my passion is to people. So you know, I got
my own podcast, the Black and Bougie Podcast, streaming on
all platforms.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, gotta check that out, y'all gonna check that out.
Let me ask you a question. What you think your
message to the world is what you think? You know
how they say, like, what's your emo? What you feel

(02:19):
like you can get a world that the real ain't got?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I live by a model of just like like an
attitude of just like a like serving people.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That don't mean that you lower than somebody, you know
what I mean. It's just like I'm living off of
seed that I sold like fifteen years ago. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So like, if you're good, that means I'm good. And
so I think if people put other people first and
we operate in that whole mindset, then everybody will be good.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But like, put other people first.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I agree with that. I agree with that. Really shit,
I agree with that. I ain't never heard nobody say that.
But so you feel like serving people is your purpose?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, you know. I always tell people, I mean, I
run financials, I run multimillion dollar businesses, but that's.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Not what I'm really in it for.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like I'm in it, you know, to make sure that
people look good, to make sure that black and brown
vendors are eating. Yeah, you know, to make sure people
are employed, put people in positions. I always tell people like,
if you got a seat at the table, if you
ain't doing nothing with it, and what's your point of
having a seat at the table. Okay, And so I

(03:41):
make sure that my seat at the table that it matters.
And so, because I don't know how long I'm gonna
be at that table. Fact, so while I'm there, I'm
making sure I'm pulling as many people up as I can.
And when I'm ready to sit back and step away
from that table, somebody else gonna do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, you know perspective, Like, we got a lot of
young men that watches when I do the mein episode.
It's a lot of young men watch that. You know,
they reach out to me after they listen to the episode,
they be like, bro, I needed that. So it's a
lot of people trying to find themself watching this, and
it's a lot of people in it at that crossroad

(04:19):
where they trying to see which way they're gonna go.
So I like to give them both sides. So every story,
you know what I'm saying. So what that man said
is what's the downside of serving people?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Serving people? And people can you over?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
And you know, I tell people like access to you
is like currency.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And so when you give people access to you and
they fund it over, they devalue that currency. Yeah, it's
just like when the dollar drops, then your value drops.
Everybody don't deserve a piece of you. Everybody don't deserve
you picking up the phone. Everybody don't deserve or you
answering every single text. And that's the part that you

(05:03):
got to kind of navigate from. But when you you're like, look,
I'm down for everybody, but you have to like kind
of like get yourself in the mold of like I
can't do this. Everybody don't deserve me.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
To add to that, you gotta be okay with a
nigga saying thank you. Yeah, niggas don't understand that. Some
people it's harding them to be okay with. They try
to please everybody. Like man, I don't want them to think.
I don't want them to think. They gonna think what
they gonna think. Anyway I'm looking, I'm trying to make
some niggas say me like that, nigga, Bank, please.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I need to prone and shave some dudes out. Yeah,
Like I can't.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I can't take care of everybody, but I want to,
you know what I mean. But like I can't do it.
And like I said, everybody don't deserve. You know, whenever
you do what Bank do, that you're gonna go one
thousand percent for sure. Everybody don't deserve for you to
go one thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Would you rather let me ask you a question? Would
you rather be able to read minds or disappear? Somebody
asked me that earlier, and that shit kind of tricked
me out when She said that, like, would I rather
read minds or disappear?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I read minds because if I can read your mind,
I can disappear when I need to. Like, if I
know what you're thinking, then I know what the next
movie is that I need to make. But just disappearing,
I'm just sitting back in the background. But if I
can read your mind and I can know what I
need to do, I'm that's that was cool.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
But I feel like if I can disappear, me in
being invisible, right, yeah, right, So if I can be invisible,
I'm gonna catch you being your real self. So I'm
really reading your mind because I can see you when
you don't think nobody watching.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, but if you think about it, you're invisible. But
that person could be putting on somebody else. But if
I can read your mind, regardless of what you're trying
to do, I'm in your head THEMN facts.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But if I can read your mind, people are confused
in their mind so the same un that they should.
People are confused in their minds. Some people don't know
who they is, and I know that because I'm in
their mind exactly. But I know it too. Watching your
ass when you're thinking, ain't nobody to me when I'm
watching you from the sideline, you being exactly who you is,
because something is what we can be when we get

(07:26):
by ourselves.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
We show read our real self to ourselves.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know what I'm saying, The way we look at
ourselves in the mirror, the way we you know what
I'm saying, stress, and the way our head hanging like
you can tell you kind of reading their mind to me.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
If I get see flying the wall, if I was
a fly on the wall, I know the conversation you
had with just I know the conversation you had with Shot.
I know the conversation you had with Courtney. I know that,
and I see a bunch of different shit. I don't
have to know exactly what's on your mind. I know
your characters. So once I read your character one, y'all
AS's in trouble, damn on your mind?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, I go to therapy. I just started therapy
because everybody needs to take that shit. This is my theory,
and so I had you know, the therapist said to
me that sometimes people don't know themselves and you can
be putting on for yourself. So even though you're invisible,
you could actually be in there just putting on for
yourself because you don't really know who you are. But

(08:23):
if I'm in your head, I know exactly. I can
diagnose you.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thet but we gotta agree to disagree. I don't even disagree,
but I'm just saying, it's just that I got a differentia. Yeah,
you need both of them because if I can, God damn,
I just feel like you just want to do some
sneaky ship if you not even though sneaks shit, I
just want to see who you are.

Speaker 1 (08:49):

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I can get inside your mind and I can just
see a bunch of crying, you know what I'm saying.
I can just see a bunch of wining, and I
can just know you're a depressed person. Really, I just
know you know what I'm saying. But the way you
act doubt to me. Let me see who you are
in different settings.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like we're just talking on be faced.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I was just telling them, like, if you're in a relationship,
your spouse is not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Who they are one in front of you. Tell me
what you mean by that. Going in a little bit deep.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, what I'm saying is at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
To me, I always say that my perspective on this
is somewhat were all gonna put on a mask for
our spouse because of the way we feel about them.

Speaker 1 (09:46):

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Because if I be one hundred percent me, that's what
compromises come in a I'm gonna hurt your feelings. If
if I'm unapologetically one per me, I'm gonna hurt your feelings.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Because we're individuals.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Everybody think different, So certain things are alt about me
because I know I shouldn't do that in a relationship,
or I'm considering your feelings.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I think this is one you just say quiet like
it's like I saw you said this the other day
on the episode you were like, you know, like sometimes
your wife would be like, oh, you know, like how
you think this outfit look on me? She really want
to hear you say the thing. This is it. But
if you would have sit up there and be like, baby,
that ain't that ain't the one she might feel a

(10:36):
type of way.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
She ain't gonna feel a type of way, and I
will say like that I'm gonna do that, like like,
so do you think I know you. You're married, right, Yeah,
you're married to your wife. I met your wife. Do
you think one hundred percent she's the same exact person

(10:57):
around you and with her friends or moms or whoever
somebody else.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Do you think she could be a different person. I
don't think we could be one hundred percent around anybody.
I think it's a version of.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Me saying the same thing. We're saying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's the one hundred for me, you know what I'm saying,
because you still gotta protect me. At the same time,
like I say, there's no way, no person every day
don't see somebody that they're compatible with. No matter how
they feel about their person, You're gonna always see a
crush or damn, he looked nice or he smelled good,

(11:32):
or he something is gonna be something. But you're not
gonna tell. You're gonna tell your husband or your wife.
I only have eyes for you. But you still can see, nigga.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But the eyes lock in on you. But you might
say you got eyes another place.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
My eyes locked in on you.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
But I'm being distracted because this is a worldly world.
But I'm just being one hundred tun They didn't get
what I was saying, but we was talking.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
About I'm desensitized to it. I don't even I don't
even see it no more. I'm be honest with Instagram
and everything else, I don't see it anymore. It's so
much in my face.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But I ain't even saying, like, I get what you're saying,
but not even the physical of it. Sometimes they don't
even be the physical that you see. Like you can,
you can. You can meet a motherfucker that's one million percent,
like damn, I fuck with them, you know what I'm saying,
and that shit turns into it don't yeah, it don't it,

(12:32):
don't stay you motherfucker go to looking better.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now you're starting to look better than God.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. Now,
you're starting to look like Damn, I like her, Like
just think about it. Motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
You never looked at like that till you got around them,
and then y'all start fucking each other and being around
each other, and to wait, their character moves your spirit.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But how is it moving? I mean, because you can
rock with somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
then you can rock with somebody, No, you can rock.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Somebody, or you can rock somebody. Yeah, I give it.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
You said I ain't somebody rocking agg I'm just saying,
but you know, but you never admit that like and
I like them, motherfucker, but I can't like you like that.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
If that makes sense what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Everybody sees those type of people, bru, this is life
like I don't. I don't, but you got some people
that lives in denial. To me, that's the worst place
to live at, in denial of.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Who we really are. We really that's.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Probably tempted by our temptations. If that's something put in
us to see if we're strong enough. Just because you
haveing the mean you wrong, that's prison.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It was something the other day, if it was you,
was someone else I was watching and they were talking about,
you know, cold switching, right, you know what that is?
So cold switching is like when I act one way
maybe in the corporate world, and I act another way.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
That's probably but I didn't say that word. That's what
it's called called cold switching.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And so I realized I used to think it was
cold switching, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm just being me.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I know how to navigate in any room that I am.
Maybe all of it is me. Like when I'm talking
to somebody like you know that's whatever from the streets
or whatever, I talk that way. When I'm talking to
somebody in the corporate world, I talk to them that
way as well. Like all parts of that is me.

(14:33):
Like we ain't got to be just one thing all
the time. When you're on the golf course, you ain't
talking about hiking. You're talking about golf, and you're talking
about your swing and you're talking about whatever, Like it
doesn't make sense for you to talk about unless the
concept is the same. So it's like we got to
stop trying to lock in and say that, hey, look
I need to be this one way all the time.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
No, all parts of it is is all me. Oh no,
I get what you're saying. You just saying something else,
but that's the parts of it. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
I agree, because I just feel like my manorism never changes,
you know what I'm saying. My conversation changes a lot,
but my manorism is what it is. Like I can feel,

(15:18):
you know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna use the
word feeling.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I can.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Digest certain energy. It just makes me be a certain way,
you know what I'm saying, But it's still all you. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. So that's the only thing. Like
I could come in the room and see like this
ain't my vibe. I just be quiet, and I ain't
never quiet.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Member out on the golf course and Country White dude
came out there. He was watching you swing. Yeah, he
was like, hey, buddy, wance.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
You go ahead and do this and you grip your
hands like this and you're doing this and da da
da da.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Y'all start connecting, for sure, and you start building with
for sure. But if you just saw him otherwise, you
might be like, man, he on some different types of.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah yeah, real ship. Yeah yeah, that's automatical. What you
what you're starting for sure?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But you know what if you thought one way, but
all parts of that is you you the same bank.
Yeah from East Atlanta. That's talking aboud it who probably
has absolutely no idea.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah you are. Oh nah, that's crazy because that's what they.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't keep saying they got ship, but that's what
that's what's out there.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It's a common interest relationship. Like no, I don't even
have to get your number. But when I see you
out there, we're friends no matter who. I don't care
damn what you do. It was just today, it was
a dude played with us. He one dude's in finance.
One dude is a real live heart surgeon. I never
met a heart surgeon in my life, like Bro. So
I asked, so you you touch hearts like I touch hearts,

(16:57):
Bro with gloves on the course. But I touch hearts,
I pass them.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
You know what I'm saying. The person still alive?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like you know what I'm saying. I like, Damn, that's
that's fascinating to me, though, you know what I mean.
That's where it's is. Yeah, that's that's it. Uh, that's
a good run here. Would you rather win the lottery?
We're gonna ask a couple of questions, just you know,
get your perspective on a couple of line. Would you
rather win the lottery for a billion dollars or bring

(17:24):
somebody back from the dead to pass away. That's a
good question, depends on who it is I bring. Yeah,
I bring Dave back for that money.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Damn, I bring my grandmama back, my grandmama shake my
hole in time.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, mind too, But I just my grandma. I love
my grandma than anything in the world. But you know
how you can look at a person like that is
she lived her life. She passed away like eighties, so
she lived her life. You know what I'm saying. I
feel like brush shit got cut short for whatever reason
God wanted at home. But I feel like my grandma
lived her life and she's in the after life, still

(17:58):
living life, like I gotcha.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I can feel that from her.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
But with David, like, bro, come on, Bro, I need
you to come on, bro, we can make a bill
and a nigga fuck that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I just need you, Dawn a lot of wing. I
don't even play the lotter.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Can you imagine if you pick, I'm gonna get this
billion versus bringing somebody back and you lose that shit
in in two weeks. That's how money is. Money come
and money go, but they're gonna take a long time.
Fuck up a be though it will, but you can
fuck it up. You know shit, who I don't even
nobody buying that stuff. That's why I've never been interested

(18:34):
in this stuff. That ex spensive shit like I just
get what I like.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I ain't never been interested in like then, watch called
five million dollar bro. I don't even want to see
what it looked like. I don't give fuck how much
money I get. I won't never buy that. Yeah, unless
I know that's some shit you can buy and get
the same money back or more. It's just like it's
still in your pocket now, ship like that. That's different.
That's a different type of flax. You buy some shit
that's gonna be worth more, like that's investment.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But some shit that devalue. I don't want that.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, like artwork, like you buy smart work and I
bought smart pieces and it's just gonna sit there.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's just gonna keep going up. So you said it
depends or your bring grandma back for them. Bring grandma back.
I don't care what you saying. Yeah, nah, she wasn't
like she went.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I feel like my grandmother was my mama, my father,
my everything, and I had her up until I was
twelve years old.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was like, man if I had her till I
was twenty four, that what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
See, I think my grandma passed away like thirteen years
and now like fifteen years I had her to I
was full grown, like thirty or song. So she had
and gave it to me one hundred percent. Like that, lady,
you know what I'm saying, and she I don't know. Man,
I don't want to start reminiscing on that, but let
me see I got something else.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I don't know who put this question on heare though,
but do you think men was meant to be with
one woman? Uh?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
You know, I'm gonna say, I don't know. I think
some men are meant to be with one woman because
you know, people can fox stuff up regardless. So some
men are are meant to be one woman and some
men I want to be with no woman depending. Yeah,

(20:36):
that's my political ship.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I don't talk about any I'm meant to be who
I'm meant to be with. But as other people, you
might it might work for you to be with two,
with two or three, But my situation is good the
way it is.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Why do you think me and urge urge women the
way we do?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
What you mean like urge like maam, Like why you
think niggas urge women outside of their women? Because you're
a man, That's what I'm saying. So that's contradicting what
you're saying. You're saying that don't mean you gotta have them,
But I'm saying you gotta have what I'm saying. Do
you think by us urging it's in our nature?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Mm hm. So so we're fighting against our nature for
what reason? I don't think you're fighting against it. I
can have check this out.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I can have I can decide to say, look, man,
I want to eat one hamburger. I want to eat
foe hamburgers like I know, I shouldn't be eating for hamburgers.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm gonna have heart disease, cholesterol, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Everything. I shouldn't have faux hamburgers. So just because you
can doesn't mean that you should. But you can get
too sliders and equal one hamburger. Ain't got to sliders
in crystals, nigga. Ain't gotta get no big head, too

(22:08):
big backs, you know, not the two big backs. Now
for me, man, I think, and whatever you're into is
what you what.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You It ain't to me.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I ain't even talking about them like that part of it,
what you're talking about I'm talking about, I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't think nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I'm I'm I'm happily married, I love my wife more
than anything in the world. And I've picked to be westernized,
you know what I'm saying. But westernized me controlled.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know what I'm saying. Control.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I feel like we've been controlled by through our mind,
through our beliefs.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Through our we've been controlled. We are being controlled. Like,
how come up? I can tell you something.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
If you're not tapped into the spirit, you can't be controlled.
If you really tapped, man, you can be controlled.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because the way of life was it and to us,
we don't live how we wake up and want to live.
That's why we stress. Niggas wake up and live how
they supposed to live, like it was a rule. We
don't live how we really want to live. Anybody that
do that we deem them as crazy. Kanye, live how

(23:19):
you want to live. I want to walk down the
street with some motherfucking no socks on and my bitch
have niked.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
This is how I want to live my life that
God gave me.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So, how did you wake up this month? How did
you really want to wake up this morning?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Me? Yeah, I ain't think about that because I'm already programmed.
But if I could, like a dream, wake up. You
want to know what a dream. A dream wake up
would be me somewhere just in the wind, waking up
to some shit I've never seen before. Every day, that's me.

(23:54):
I want to see something different every day. I don't
want to see the same shit. I don't want to
be programmed. I want to wake up in Africa today.
I want to wake up in Egypt to morning. I
want to wake up in Saint Lucia's sat I want
to wake up like that and height the Grand Cans
and all that type shit and live life.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
So I said, that's a good point. So I'm gonna
tell you this morning, it's a good time to have
this conversation. So this morning, when I woke up, I
was feeling like that. I was like, I don't want
to come and get locked in and tapped into the matrix,
like I don't want to that's what we're in. Like,
I don't want to go see people, have conversations with

(24:30):
people that I really don't want to have conversations with,
you know, do things that I don't want to do.
So you know what I did. I went into work
and I walked right back out. I was like, man,
I'm not doing this today. I'm just I'm just not.
I didn't think about what was on my calendar. I
didn't think about anything. I said, I'm not doing this today.

(24:54):
But the only reason that you can do that because
there's repercussions to that action. Only way that I could
do that is if I'm solid, and then I can
walk away and do that. Average person can't do that.
You gotta clock in and do a nine to five.
If you gotta structure situation that controls your life.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I said dope again before our clock in. I know
that you still say I ain't no nigga, gotta tell
me that like chantay you tell me all the time,
Like because I've been the nigga like we said a
can in school, bra ain't me the money? Let me
count the money, see what we got and I'm gonna
go get the canon. And like I been the nigga

(25:35):
that facilitated ship so I could be in the house
and shit still clicking. It's what I'm saying. You don't
have to do nothing you don't want to do when you,
like I said, I want to wake up and do it.
I want some days I.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Wake up, I say, hey, council, Thursday.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Court, Well, damn I nobody feel I don't want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's real.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm just keeping it real like, but they don't. But
nothing cancel it, bro, how have it go?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It goes? It's just my energy.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like if I can't live like that, I I don't
think I could live.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Bro, I can't live with somebody.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
God damn me feeling like I gotta put on to
feed my family. I have to be a certain way.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like I just you could and you can't do that.
I can't do it, But you're Amazon driver, gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I get it down. Yeah, I get it. They gotta
do it. But at the end of the day, you
can do something else.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Niggas is just not exercising their brains. Bro, But who
deliver your package? I'm saying that that's them, But I'm
saying if they didn't want to do it, Like I'm
kudos to the people that go to work. I'm saying me,
I can't be confined, like I'm the type of nigga.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And this some ship men say.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I had to learn that I can't be like that
because I'm a married man. Like I hate that where
you at M. Like I hate feeling controlled. I hate
feeling question. I hate that ship and it ain't got
nothing to do with I could be I could be
doing nothing. You just don't want to be.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I just don't want to be. Like you can ask me, hey,
how's your day? What are you doing? You go to
it's three?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
What like?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
What are you doing? Where you at? Wood to woo?
Who you with? That ship? Eat me up? Do you
not do that? Bad?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Never either, I've never asked a person what you're doing? Hey,
hear me when you're done? That's me, Like, what you
got going here? I don't give a damn what you're doing.
You're doing I didn't do that. If you know what
I'm saying, I'm not with you. You know what I'm
saying because I don't know what I am because and

(27:47):
then they don't even be mean nothing by She had
explained to me, like, I don't mean nothing by that.
But I'm just like, that's just a question. But I'm
just saying I have to love what I said. She
I have to look at it different because I'm married
to her. So it's like she's just asking, what are
you doing with you know? But look at different becase
you're a man. Yeah, But I don't want no nigga

(28:09):
ask me what I'm doing. I'm saying this like because
I come out the streets, I guess. So it's like
if a nigga asks you, nigga ain't gonna be asking you.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Where you at? Well, I'm at?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Why who you trying to send? You know what I'm saying,
what I'm doing. Just let's get to the point of
what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Coming to fuck with me? Ya, y'all, y'all here, let
me know what time? That's it all that?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I don't know, Bro. It might sound eating her, but
I'm just saying, like, it's just so much shit that
makes a person them.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
That they not doing. That's keeping their mind off track.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
It's keeping your spirit off track when you not doing
what you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Bro, you'll never be right. But is this the twenty
twenty four bank or is this always been?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's always been me this part. I just was in
a different field doing what I want to do. I
ain't never been.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
The type of motherfucker who can march to a beat.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Bro. I ain't even Finnia keep me laughing a joke
on like bothered my head to a song on like,
you ain't finna catch me doing it, bro, I just
I don't know. And people people look at that shit
as asshole shit because you can be like being real.
That shit is distinct though I can't do it, and

(29:29):
niggas be mad like niggas like some of my great
friends can have some great shit going on, and I
could really want to go all the way up to
the day of it, the moment I could put my
I could buy a whole suit to go here, and
the day coming, I don't want to go. I'm not
gonna go. And when you call and at me, damn,

(29:50):
but I thought you were coming, Bro, I ain't want
to go that shit. I'm not gonna make another excuse.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know what. My dog got sick.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, Bro, I just didn't. I wasn't feeling it when
it was time to go out one feeling it, Man,
I'm finna say something. And it's now now all the
people that hear me, they gonna know. My wife calls
me a natural asshole. She was like, you just a
natural asshole.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
People in the corporate raal, I don't see that about
me because you know, I gotta, you know, do what
I do for them. I'll be on the phone, and
sometimes I'm done talking. I just hang up the phone.
Like we'll be on the phone and you'll be in
mid sentenced and I'll be like business is a person.

(30:32):
I'm done with the conversation.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I hang up. I don't do that. I do.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I make sure up because if I'm talking to somebody
that I fuck, it depends. But I ain't never doing that.
When I'm talking to somebody on the fuck, I want
to make sure they know before I hang up the
phone with them.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
It's love. Because this shit been so fucked up, Bro,
you never know who you're gonna talk to again, like
you good. I'm gonna make sure I double check on you,
like I checked on you before I call you good.
I love you. Make sure you know I'm here. That's
just it's been me. That's just me. I gotta work
on me there.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm telling you that just because brouh niggas is so
many niggas is passing away, you don't never know just
the last time you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Talk to him.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And check this out.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
This is the last thing.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm I'm sorry. Can you have the last thing they
heard me say was I love you love bro. That's
what he said. That's the last thing, like no matter
what if if when shot accurdly today, last thing in
him to say love you. But y'all know each other,
That's what I'm saying. But that just anybody I fuck with,
even you and be like, all right, bro, makes you

(31:30):
good love.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I'm just gonna let you know it's love. So that's
the last thing you heard from Bank.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's why everybody can't have access to you. But I
said earlier. For surebody shouldn't be on your on the
other line on your phone. Everybody shouldn't be on the
other line of that text message because everybody don't deserve
that version of Bank, because the other version that they
gonna get it might be like, man, I really don't
want to talk to you. But that's what happens sometimes
with me. I'll be on the phone with people that

(31:56):
I just necessarily just don't want to talk to.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
That's crazy. See, that's what I'm saying. You gotta have buffers.
I don't talk to motherfuckers. I don't want to talk
to my phone on ring. It's like it's six people
probably call me my wife, scream Jade, shy court cuz Stone.
I'm the only motherfucker called me outside of my family.

(32:21):
Everybody that'll call it text me. They getting a screenshot
booker sitting at the court.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Talk to her.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
They're gonna get a good group to book a court. Hey,
this is such and such such, this is what they're
trying to do. Why am I because I know I
to me, I just give my all to people that
I fuck with. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
if I fuck with you, But that's why I don't know, bro.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh no, that's why I just can't.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
The world crazy, Bro. But guess what I learned though
to this day, Bro, I learned some new ship perspective,
bank and being just just trying to be a different nigga.
But you push out like the real lane as fucked
up as we think it is. But you push out,
you get back. God don't even allow certain people the universe,
and God don't even allow certain people to even be

(33:11):
in your space when you in the right space.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
If that makes sense. When say your world is your perimeter.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know what I'm saying, Like this shit don't even
come around you like the shit that come around you.
Now it's supposed to be around the ship that lasts
around you, because you're gonna come in the vicinity of
all type of shit.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
But the shit that lasts around you, the shit that
you think of. Let me hit that personal. What there
are going on? Bro? You know we're going to golf
in the wool. That just you can't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
You can make your two eighty five as big or
as small as you want. You can make it as
big as you want and include everybody, or you can
make it a little bit smaller as you want. You
gotta make That's why your circle you have to make
sure and the people that have access to you. Like,
that's what I'm on in twenty twenty four. Everybody does
not deserve to have access to me. It's no not

(34:05):
I ain't even gonna say access. That's good what you're saying.
I ain't gonna say access. They just don't deserve to
have you.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
No, everybody. I feel like God, I'm god gift to
the world like he did.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Everybody deserves that.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Everybody deserved to have access to me, but they don't
deserve to have what do you call it emergency? You
know how you putting people in the emergency contact? Like
my phone on silid. Certain people, it's gonna ring. They
don't deserve to get through an emergency time like everybody,
like on the hikes, when people out there, that's my community.

(34:40):
I love everybody that come on that hike, and I
know they love me too. Them folks don't want my number.
They don't want nothing but to see me at the
next height and let's catch up right there. That's access,
But they don't have immediate access to where they problem
to come.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
My problems and my problem to come, they problem.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's just when we see each other, we know we
finish light each other back up, no matter what we
went the past month.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
So everybody deserve asset what what is it? Access to you?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
But some people don't deserve all acts, you know, a
different paths that they get get you right here, gets
this shear to get you to the meet and greet,
This ship to gets you to the tool boys. This
should have get you followed on him. You know what
I'm saying, it's the it's the gold platinum diamond.

Speaker 1 (35:26):

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I respectfully disagree because some people don't deserve the basic access.
But I'm telling you what your heart is good. You
got a solid heart and like you're gonna be like
if I rock with you, I'm rocking with you.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But what I'm telling you is, Bro, when you when
you set in in space and play, certain people ain't
even gonna be allowed to be around you because of physics.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Science. Like so, anybody that can can get.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Past that stratus field or that that burial that that's
around me, they deserve access because I can smell it
on you, Bro, as soon as you hit the dough.
That ain't not my people tell you, Bro, I'm want
of them, super petty judge niggas like I can.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I'm gonna say how I felt when I met you.
That ain't not. If I meet you and be like
I fucked with Bro, my spirit ain't lying to me
no more. See. At first, we tried to give.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Access to people based off a familiality because I'm familiar
with you. I went to school with you, I know
your mama, you know my mama. But this and this
and that, But I'm not looking at characters. I'm looking
at I supposed to fuck with you because I been
knew you. You know what I'm saying, like did my
boy because I been know with my boy. But if

(36:52):
you met your boy today, you wouldn't death fuck with
my boy. Yeah, Like, I don't even deal with these
kind of niggas for this kind of bitch. I went
stick by Dick and you girl, you don't want to say.
I'm just keeping it real. But due to the fact
of this is saying bot like he saw me, he

(37:13):
got beat up in third grade. We shared the twist before.
You need the same bowl, same bed, bro ate out,
the same spoon. Don't mean shit, that's over that ship,
don't mean shit. How you feel about the presidential election.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
It's interesting, man, if you asked me this a couple
of weeks ago, I ain't on no party. I'm not
a party person. Like I'm not on the Democrat side.
I'm not on the Republican side. But if you're asking
me today, we screwed either way we go. And so

(37:57):
I know my friends that are, oh.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
We screwed the way sleepy yell really sleeping.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
He's sleeping.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
He he in a coma. When the comotos said nigga came,
that's Paul, you know.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
But if you think about it, like we literally got
one person that possibly doesn't know where he is, and
then you got another person that knows exactly where he is.
Which one is scary, The person that knows exactly where

(38:38):
he is and it's gonna speak his mind, or the
person that doesn't necessarily know where he is and other
people are controlling his mind.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
What do you mean by exactly where?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
He's saying? Basically, he knows exactly what he's doing. I'm
on the bullsh and I know I'm on the bulls.
You know what he is. I know any time, I'm
a fuck nigga. Yeah, and fuck that, I'm standing on
it and I don't care what you say. Yeah, I
know this. They got the other person that don't even
know here today. Ye sleep Nah, that's that's that's the

(39:09):
good one. I ain't never heard nobody say that. Break
it down like that. You're right, you gotta. But that's
the reason why I can choose Trump, because I got
a choice.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
This sleep ad nigga over here don't even know he's sleep.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Somebody else controlling him, That's what I'm saying. But this
niggat least I know, like, all right, I know how
to how to watch you. I don't even know how
to watch an unpredictable nigga. Even though Trump unpredictable. I
know he's unpredictable.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Let's check this out. And here's the thing with politics, man,
people gonna hate me for this one. But like obviously,
you know, we've been groomed to be Democrats.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Period. Yes, it's been grooming, We've been playing it.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's like that's what it is. They've been fertilizing us
as Democrats. And so you've got to be able to
look in that direction. If you look in any other direction,
it's like you're a colonizer almost, you know, if you
looking somewhere else. So we all know and say in
our own private rooms, Joe, ain't it. But because we

(40:12):
hate just how much Trump is who he says he is,
that I can't listen. I can't ever go against that.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I'm just being here, even though even though they saying
he's racist, they saying he grabbed pusses. Whatever he do,
I don't grab a couple of pussies. I don't like niggas,
just being real, like, I don't know what else there
is to say, So I can't go how you gonna
got there be a nigga that know, you kind of

(40:47):
fit some.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Of these characteristics. And now I don't like him because
he doing it out loud. That's what's going on. Like
I said, bro, and it's crazy. I was just telling
my homegirl today.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I was just talking her on the phone and she
called me, asking me about some relationships. And now that
the feeling they we need to figure out. We need
to figure out how to we need to figure out
how to monetize this ship. The folks really called him
asking some shit and I'm giving them some real ship. Yeah,

(41:19):
I gotta start doing on the phone. They gotta come
sit out and pet jail.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
She asked me.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
She said, because she dope. Like she's dope, Like I
been knew her. She's dope, and I see her in
different phases of her life. Like your homegirl that you
had as a homegirl, get the best advice. When they're
not in relationships, they be real niggas. So she getting
a relationships, she becomes delusional. Now you're wrong. Now she

(41:48):
telling you the real when y'all, when she's single, she
know the real life man bank.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
These holes ain't ship. And soon as she.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Get in a relationship with a nigga, she end up
feelings about what she going through. Now she looking at you,
ask this nigga, But I'm just your friend. You give
me advice as where you shouldn't be doing her like that.
Oh you know what I'm saying, she turned into an
emotional speaker. Now she gives you emotional advice because it
resonates with her. You know my character of what I

(42:18):
may have did. So you're looking at me as some bullshit.
But you know how this shit go really, but you
don't know how I go because you going through it. Now,
that makes sense what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
But is that is that just again? Is that just
a female traite because you're in a relationship, right?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Ma, Yes you give advice. Yes, you think your advice
is a one for sure for the It depends on
what type of nigga you you're in a relationship. Yeah,
so why does it it work for them?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Why doesn't it work for them?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
It do when they follow this ship, I'll be giving
them they be straight. You're not getting what I'm saying.
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
These women that you're saying that it works when they're
in a relationship, their advice is.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Because they become the loose you know, once they feelings
getting they forget how it really goes.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
So is that a female to male thing.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I think it's I think it's misery.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
So I think, no, No, you missing, you missing the
point what we're saying. I'm saying. I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
What I'm saying is not the not the the advice
you'll get your homegirl. I'm saying, I'm a dude. You
got women that thinks like dudes when they're not in relationships,
and when they get in a relationship, and if feelings
get involved, they see it only from a woman point
of view. They can know some real ship when it's

(43:40):
time to be real. Like I said, shah Ta gonna
tell little one the really ship. When it comes to females,
why because that's her son. My wife's gonna tell my
son the really ship. Like nah, if Red doing that,
you need to check that. But she wouldn't want me
to check that when it comes to her.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Is that because she? Is it gender specific?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
No, it's the women really be knowing what's going on,
but when their feelings get involved, they want you to
change who who what it is?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Do you do the same thing as a man? Who
I don't?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
So is it gender specific?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Oh yeah, it's jender pacific. Oh yeah, I don't be
knowing the orridas you're saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
gender gender if you if you're a male or a female.
But that's how it's different. You're right, That's why you
got to understand that women are ninety percent emotions. You
know what I'm saying, Like once I figured that out,
because I'm thinking, because I know that they don't go

(44:39):
like that you're supposed to know. But the thing about
it is, you have some women that know when they're
not in relationships. It's what I'm trying to get you
to see it. Be the really bitch ever helping you
be some bullshit. She real shout is solid. She know
how the shit go. Soon as she gets her dude,
and she upset a little bit. Now, I just hate
niggas they become in denial because whatever your conversation is

(45:05):
something that they probably through themselves. I just said that, John,
I just said that, John, do you right correct? Exactly?
Know they don't get it cause they snapped right up.
They can get the right the best advice like they like. Man,
you just gotta be you. You gotta live in your truth.
You gotta you can't worry about that. Un Like you right,
I'm a king, but you want this nigga to be

(45:28):
a peasant who you is.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
You know what I'm saying. That ship is the lud google.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
That's a great perspective, you know what I'm saying, Like
you know how this ship goes when it's supposed to go,
how it goes, but when shoes on the other feet,
you want him to be this person that you've never
met before in life. If you just imagine it's an ego,

(45:59):
it's pro Just imagine if you really accepted the nigga
for how you see niggas, how happy y'all would be.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But what are you seeing? You see niggas for who they.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Are, But when you get them and you start caring
about them, you don't want to see them for who
they are. You want to see an imagine they person. Yes,
you know exactly how niggas are. You know how your
daddy was, You know how your uncle or your cousin was,
your brother was, everybody your baby daddy.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
You know how everybody and everywhere you met.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
He is exactly who you met.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
You know how they are.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
You've heard about You've seen this ship for life for hell,
like the boys say, you've been seeing this shit forever.
But as soon as you get a nigga God sent
me Jesus, you ain't never seen a nigga do this.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
What you thinking that I can do this shit makes sense?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Do you think that's you know? I've lived being in
the hotel business. I've lived in Detroit, DC, NAPA, Santa Monica, Boston,
I've lived everywhere, and so one of the things that
I realized is that the way we are in Atlanta
is completely different than the rest.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Of the Oh.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
You right, because when I be online and people being
to come in, they be talking like I'm talking a
foreign language. So really, really I'm stuck in I'm stuck
in a bubble and speaking on some massive ship like
this is how it goes because in Atlanta, brou then
how I go is different. This ship different, bro, this

(47:57):
shiit different. Like I don't know, y'all gott to move
out the city. Man, We're in our own We're in
our own bubble down here because and that's good and bad.
It's good and bad. But bro, he as ain't ship. Yeah,
niggas ain't either. It's just it's too plentiful. Bro, everybody,
this shit fucked up, Like you can meet a woman
like I'll be talking to my friend.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I got a bunch of partners like that, having their way,
doing what they do.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Niggas good, good dude, take care of their kids, ready
to take care of their parents and everything like good dude.
They can't find a woman because of how women come different.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
It's how you come.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It's how you come like you expect something from me
for nothing too fast.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
So you would consider you you was a street dude, right,
that was came the streets, right from oh street.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Others said straight, yeah, from the streets, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
But even coming from the streets. Did you know of
somebody that their mom or dad was either lawyer, doctor,
police officer, judge, or somebody had money. Did you know
of somebody they might not have been one of your
homeboys or homegirls. Did you know of somebody was black?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Nobody?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
The most successful person I knew growing up, it was
a niggah went to the army, like he went to
the army.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
So I'm gonna tell you this. I'll never get this.
I was in Have you ever heard of Peoria, Illinois?
Never heard of it? Right, it's the home of Richard
pryor so I'm in Peoria, Illinois, and I'm pumping gas
and I gotta I gotta suit on.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Suit it up. This dude pull up in an old school.
He's like, yo, like where you where you? Where you going?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Like I'm going into my going into my job. He's
like wearing a suit and I'm like yeah. So he
goes parks his car, comes over to me. He's like, man,
I just want to shake your hand. Man, I ain't
never met nobody they go, they go to work and
have a suit on. But being from Atlanta, I can

(50:10):
at least say if I go to the grocery store,
I go to Walmart, I go anywhere I can see
a black man or a black woman that's gonna be
suited and ready to go in something that I'm not
in correct, we take that for granted because of where
we are, but for the rest of the world it's different.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, I can't speak for them. You can in this moment. Yeah,
but yeah, but fess she didn't the way them.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
But they don't even know how nest. They only know.
They only know what they know. They ain't gonna never
see somebody like that where they from.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
You right about what you're saying, because I was just
on the golf cut right. Niggas out there they do
the grass. My nigga got a the nigga I know,
he got the grass company. So he had his sons, nephews,
all them out there. They got there deep. They getting money.
They cut all the golf course. Man, Nigga, I bent
that con on. They got damn golf court.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That niggas said, Bank, you nigga bank out here playing golf. Bro,
what you know what I'm saying? How them niggas. He
was like, Bro, Nigga, you know how? And I hate
this for niggas. We want that love, Bro, Real niggas
when they see you, they want that love. You ain't
got to be bro. This ain't no fan. You ain't
got to say that because we can read energy. Brouh.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
That love that them boy gave me on that golf court. Bro,
that made me feel like I'm doing the right thing
with my life.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
You know what I'm saying. It's like they were paying bro'.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
He was like, Bro, what The one of young dudes said, Man, Man,
I'm in my work cloth, man, but I want to
get a picture anyway.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I was like, Bro, come on, let get it. Bro.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
You showing that you grind you at work. I'm at
least I ain't GoF you working. Ain't that bigger than working?
Niggas don't understand that. It ain't that bigger than working, bro.
Nothing like I said earlier that I wouldn't clock in,
But ain't that bigger than working?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You're working. I done did some low level hustling.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
To not be able. You know what I'm saying. That's
the same thing as a worker like working. I done
did a bunch of low level shit. If this makes
sense what I'm saying, Joe, I done did a bunch
of shit that would I would consider as a peasant
or a worker, or a nigga trying to figure it out,
or a broke nigga selling goddamn our food stamp back

(52:42):
in the day, sell the whole two fit to get
one twenty five by man eight ball to try to
come up and we'll get.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Some food later. I been that nigga, So I get
that bro like.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
This twenty twenty four. Bro, you can got them. You
can flip five six some checks and figure something out.
Do you do you think that by your camera starts
your whole motherfucker you can do it like your playing
starts with you. Like what I'm saying, I ain't saying
I witn't clock in. I'm just saying I couldn't never
do it. So I always had to put myself in

(53:14):
a position of well, I'm gonna create me a play.

Speaker 1 (53:19):

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Don't your fuck what that means. I don't fuck what
that mean. Like I would just changeing when that PPP
and all that shit started. I probably if I were
the same nigga I wore before pe people, I'll probably
be caught up in that shit. It's ba's and I'll
have all that shit.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Like I'm trying to get two three m's out this shit.
I'm a hush pipping whatame? Who got? I'm trying to
do that? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
But it's always a way, That's one thing about it, bro,
Niggas gotta know. Bro, it's always away.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
If you not winning, you're not operating in your purpose,
some in your way. If you not even if you're
not coasting, it's something in your way. Check your circle,
check your environment, check you check yourself first, looking at
mirror and see what's going on.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Because we all got something like a gift.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
God gave all us something special that would make us
stand out from everybody else.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Do you think.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Do you think for the culture like I can't have this?
One episode, one of my episodes of my podcast was
called fuck the culture.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Do you think that it's sometimes risky to love and
embrace it and try to be that for the culture?
What's the coature?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
First?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Well, us, when I'm talking specifically culture, I'm talking about
black and brown.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Bro. I just told you, Bro, you can't really fuck
with these niggas. Bro, you gotta fuck with people who won't.
Won't you gonna be able to tell, brother, you can't
fuck with everybody for sure, and everybody can.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Access to you, but you have you must fuck with
the ones that want some fucking with. So that's a culture.
That's the culture, bro.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, the niggas who want some fucking with you can tell, brother,
niggas motherfuckers are making excuses and and always got debit down,
and we can't do that with you right now till
you get right not to say we're gonna give up
on you. We just gonna put you over there and
let us focus on the people who read it. When
you read it, we ready. That's all I'm saying, Like
I bag away from some shit, like even even even

(55:35):
people that probably think I don't fuck with them. If
I see you and I see you're ready by guns,
be by gun, Let's get it. That's just how I
am as a person because I know everybody can shift.
It's is do you want to shift?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
And will you? Will you shift? Like niggas know, bro,
Like I'm telling you, nobody call my even my ponding them,
they just DM me.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I love your brother them nigga knowing I don't want
to hear what they gotta say, Like bro, you know,
so shu, Bro, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I don't know them no more. I don't know that
you know.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
And I'm gonna put this out there and then we're
gonna take a break for them and give me. I
gotta piss, but I'm gonna put.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
This out there. The best way to move forward is
to keep moving. Did you catch that?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Keep moving? That's the only way you can move forward.
You gotta keep moving.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
But you ain't getting what I'm saying. What I'm saying
every day all day, Like right now, I put myself
on the schedule. I'm gonna wake up. I'm gonna walk first,
go to the general b shout out of my nigga
be on bees. I'm gonna play golf. Then I'm gonna
do a podcast. By that time it's time.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
My wife can go to sleep. My day has been moving.
I ain't have time to think about no sucker ship.
Everybody calling me call me by being in the court
of caller. Hey, these folks want to want you down
in New Orleans? Can you go to that successible? Now
we ain't gonna do that. We're gonna go to BT
and for what stning. You know what I'm saying me
and I already got that bull I'm having called by

(57:20):
everybody's calling my phone. I ain't even making any time
for it. I'm packing my ship up, so packed up
that I ain't got time to hit it.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
You calling me? You you you called me? You see
me pick up the fall. I got a call club man.
What's up? Bro?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh No, I'm gonna hit you brother, hell your business?
You you knowing I don't want to hear what you're
finished saying. So that ain't the real access to that. Huh,
that's that basic level access. That's what I'm telling you,
but I'm ready to drop the clubs and the ball
one of them call me talking about some dope.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
This is just in between times. All this shit I'm
doing in between time, like I got a lot of
in between times. Cut me so busy.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I don't chanting like I ain't you know what I'm
saying more than David as much. I ain't think that
she was stuck on me. Bro, I just send like
that should get you on the corner. You just be
strolling Instagram crying and ship. I ain't got time for that.
I'm gonna be doing our type of shit and the
I'm gonna start doing yoga, yat damn Plotti is uh canoeing,
spending class under everything you can think of. Jo, I'm

(58:21):
gonna jump out a plane again with my boy t
shirt on, say we're gonna go with me. He told
he was gonna do it on the birthday, but he
ween he ain't make it. So I'm gonna go jump
out here playing again with the shirt on and all
type of ship. Bro, I'm gonna go do the grand
can I ain't getting I ain't giving myself.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I ain't giving myself time to not be who I
want to be.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Real, real, because that's when doubts set in and fear
and all that ship because you're you're having too much
time to think of that.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
So even the bullshit bank don't have access to bank. Everybody, ooh,
you just killed it.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Even the bullshit bank ain't even got asset. Because I
will go there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I will turn it to some You know what I'm saying,
because it once it, once it's set in, it doesn't
set in.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
The Glittien bank.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I ain't glicien no more. I don't fix the glicks.
I don't win in that motherfucker. Tighten the cruise up,
brom telling you I know what to do. Don't give
yourself a chance. When you give yourself, it's okay not
to answer for a nigga.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. Everybody got the same
ring on my phone self chante right, But I can
hear my phone ringing no this. I tapped in then
there and dave them and my ancests and everybody got me. Bro,
I give my phone ringing no, I don't want to answer,
and then when I look at it, I'll be like, hey,
you I don't talk to them. That's some cold ship.

(59:54):
The motherfucker be in the room. In there, I can feel, Hey,
bring my phone. That's somebody I don't want to talk
to me. And I pick it up and scream good
energy azz nigga. Bro, you know what I'm saying. You
get you know what I'm saying, Like I can tell
you it's on some progression time and it's the same
ring tone. If you ain't get what, you give what

(01:00:16):
I'm saying like, I'm a no bro, And they gonna
keep coming. It's gonna the ship that don't supposed to
be there, gonna keep trying to inch in. You see,
I got a little plug in, a new plug in
and zap them nets. I need to probably change the feelter.
You know what I'm saying. It's a it's a beautiful
thing that you wouldn't even know. Like I used to
have the ship hanging out with the with the with

(01:00:39):
the wax on it look like the nigga in Africa.
So well, but now I got to plug and ship,
so I'm still zapping shiit same way your ancestor to
God Universe. They're zapping ship before it even getting your stratosphere.
That's the truth, bro, and I know it and I'm
living by that. Like you know how nigga like niggas

(01:00:59):
be deming me, Hey, bro, I need to holland you
serious to you? It ain't serious to be bro. Give
a damn, but it covered give a damn what you talk?

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Oh hear this ship? You know what I'm saying. You
finna tell you about Hey such something saying they gonna sits. Bro, No,
they ain't. It ain't gonna work. It is. Don't you
forget into it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
For real, though, let's let's get into it. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Let's get into it, like because we don't have the conversation.
One time you told me some ship that like kind
of stirred my spirit, like like you try to commit
suicide or ship before.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
People.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, I've always thought that like a person that that
tried to commit suicide, like that's a form of weakness.
But what you said kind of sparked something like, Bro,
I've never thought about it until the moment that I
tried it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
It Actually, as soon as I did it, I said, Man,
why did I do it? You have to have no
idea what somebody is going through, Like you can't judge.
Somebody just said, Oh, this person is weak and this
person is that you don't know, like, I never thought
that I would do something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Like but tell a story of what happens so I
can give you my perspective on that. I want the
people to head.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
You know, I I found some information out that you know,
I didn't. I didn't think it could ever happen to
me that I was cheated on. And as soon as
I found the information out, I lost it. And I

(01:02:42):
think part of that me losing it was me being
arrogant because I thought like that could never happen to me,
and then when it happened, I just went crazy. I
went picked up the knife and I just started slicing
my arm and I had one hundred and sixty I stitch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
It in my wrist and right after probably the last one,
I said, what am I doing? It was too late.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
So in layman tern, you try to kill yourself by
a bitch, Yeah, well you're a cold nigga one. I
don't never want to meet no bitch to make me
want to kill myself.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Bro. I don't know. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I vowed to myself as a young niger and I
would never die, kill or go crazy about no bitch, bro,
because they gonna do what they want to do. No bro,
It's like you gotta you gotta. I'm just saying I'm
telling this for niggas to watch it. Like, you gotta
pre program yourself because you can be let down by anybody,

(01:03:45):
not just somebody, anybody you look.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
You be let down by your parents, you can be
let down by anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
You gotta meant to prepare yourself for that to know
that it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Not to say, put a wall up. I don't know
what I'm trying to say, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
When you put anybody else over yourself, because that's exactly
what I did, correct, I put somebody else over me,
and I said, fuck it the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
So if you find out your new wife chaneould you
feel like what you used to try to do something? Shit?
I'm out keep it moving.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Yeah, But at that point, but that's why I said,
I think it's a point of arrogance because you think
at that point that this can never ever happen to me.
But it did, and so I just I went crazy
and it literally went crazy at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
But was you pump faking though? Like because to me
a nigga trying to kill itself, gonna kill itself like
you if you really was you did you just lose
it and try to hurt yourself or you try.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
To get crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
The doctors actually told me, they said it was like
your veins moved out the way, like you were supposed
to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Like and so I can tell and I just went.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You got to think I had one hundred and sixty
five stitches in my wrist and I just kept cutting
without even thinking about it. So I just think it
was I was meant to be here. Yeah, there's two
times in my life where I think that I was
supposed to be out of here, but I wasn't supposed
to be out of here. It was once where I
tried to take my own life. And the second time

(01:05:22):
is when I actually had stage four cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Damn. So yeah, stage no cancer before you try to
kill yourself, or after.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I had stage four testicular cancer that went from my
liver from my testicle to my liver to my lungs
to my lip noise and my abdamen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
How you keep your faith throughout it? Oh, it's hard.
And anybody that tells you that it's not hard to
lying to you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Every day. I was like, I'm out of here. I
want to be out of here. I'm done. And so
it was actually my wife at the time. She was like,
you're not out of here. It's not your time yet.
That's why I say it's important to have people in
your circle and people that's on your side that keep
pushing for you, because sometimes you're like I'm done. I

(01:06:16):
was actually begging to God, I'm like, I want to
be out of here. Iain was just that great that
I didn't want to be here anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
What you believe in astrologists like signs and ship what's
your Sagittarius?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I always call Sagittarius is like a mixer to go
with anything, like we can mix with any other sign.
I think it's the greatest scientist out there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Kids elf.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, that's unfavolable to me because you never been through
anything that will take you there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
And I would tell people all the time like, don't ever.
You never want to be at a point, and you
never want to be with a person that would actually
take you there. It's better to just walk away, move
away and do something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I can see myself wanting to leave earth if I
was in a position of suffering, like if I was
bed really or like it's my time to go, Like, bro,
I can't do nothing myself. I'm so depending. I'm dy
like they can pull the plug and like I want
them niggas get it over it. But I don't think

(01:07:29):
I can allow someone else's actions make me want to
hurt me. It probably make me want to hurt them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
That's why I still I think it was I think
it was arrogance. I think it's just like it's not me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
So what did she did you? How long did y'all
stay together after that happened? It's just a year? Oh
so you so so? Hold on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Hm?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
How I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I got kids, you got life, you got a way
of life. So you just you know you you keep
it moving. How did you feel? Was that torture?

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I know that, But still still though like very different
smelling dick on your bitch, Bro, it's old like you
just look like a dick now when I see you,
like look at look at little dicky.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
But it is different. I can't do that, Bro, it's arrogant.
I can't do that. I rather mansbe slicking in the
cannon or bro don't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
It's just like something instantly go away and I'll try
to see if it's still there. But it's not with
your wife, with any woman that I've dealt with with
my wife, and my wife cheat on me. She too
in the water. Gone Dicky, you're Dicky, but you're older now.
I wouldn't give a funk how old I was. You've

(01:08:53):
seen it. You've seen listen. Did you see it was
a ninety six year old and a ninety nine yo.
That man divorced that lady he found out she cheated
sixty years ago. It was an old letter in their house.
She rode a boyfriend that nigga left her. I don't
want to die with you in my last name man
like Yo, Look, I'm good I went there if I

(01:09:14):
was six, six, seven, eight nine, ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Bro, I know me because that's Torch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I'm telling you, Bro, I know me, I knew me, No,
I knew me, ain't no such it's my pride is listen,
it ain't even pride. I probably would have tried to
stay with you as a nigga in the wrong mindset,
but now, especially now, it's like I know the person
that I'm gonna be towards you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
He ain't got nothing to do with me. I know,
I don't trust you. It's a confirmation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And it ain't got nothing to do with just cheating,
just anything of something that just don't align with what
with what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
What do you say.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
That's next door? They got a TV on mm hmm,
it's fine. I ain't anybody to hear that shit on him?
All right, let me see what I was saying. I
got it, You're real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I just don't feel as if though somebody else's actions,
I'm allowed them to take control of me. Bro, That's
just what it is, because that's when you put too
much in people like we were just speaking about this
the other day on the podcast, Like I don't think

(01:10:45):
I'm exempt. I don't think I'm exempt. I just think
that you respect me enough that and you know that
there are consequences with a person like me, as if
though consequence that you may not be willing the face
right now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I feel as though if I was any woman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
That I dealt with, she's gonna try her best to
not make me feel how she know I would feel.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
That's just how I look at it. I'm gonna keep
I'm I'm gonna be arrogrant enough to say that if
you fuck with me now, if it's over, you don't
give fuck out what fucked me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
You don't think that's grown man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I've always felt like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I've always felt like like I've never checked me, like
Sean taking a whole nother husband somewhere I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I don't check her phone, I own nothing exactly because
you don't want her to check your life. No, it's
because I don't want to see some shit that I
don't want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
I don't want to look. I'm not looking to leave you.
I'm not trying to catch you up. I love you
the way you are, so I don't want to catch
you up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
My question is like, do you look?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Do you not look?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
You don't want him to look at yours because you're
not trying to look at theirs either. I'm the type
of nigga tell you it's in there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
So you're breaking that phone looking for some shit you
look into to have a problem because whatever you're looking
for in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
That motherfucker, you go see the road ship.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
So I ain't trimming on that what I'm saying is
I don't want to see some ship that make me
look at you the way I don't want to look
at you because I already love you the way I
love you. I'm already accepting you for who you are.
But specific, that's that's the privacy invasion to me. Gender specific.
I think that men and women just are programmed differently.

(01:12:27):
But you got some nigga that be checking phones and
ship though I ain't never did that in my life.
I don't ever dann what you did because I feel
like if it comes, if it comes, it gonna come
like I don't even want to see your phone and
it ring my eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Don't look over at your phone over?

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Then who calling you over? Damn you Elnce, you could
be dead with the tell a moocha. You can say
whatever you want to say. I don't will fuck who
that was up? Hands on it. I don't care. It
ain't my bedding to hit my door. It ain't my
bidding brother, And I know that's sad to say. It's
just like you got to give us some level of
varner ability and trust in order to keep your peace.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Yeah, I think at this point in my life, whatever's
meant for me is meant for me. I ain't got time.
I'm not looking for nothing. I ain't trying to go
search for nothing. Like what's mine is mine, because what you're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Gonna do about it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
If you searching, if you feel it like you gotta
search a person, that means you know, shouldn't even be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Fucking with them. So you know my wife, my wife
is Lebanese, so she's she's from the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
And so the first time we were going out and
she was you know, I would she'd be on one
side of the room and I'm over here, and she
was like and men would be trying to talk to her,
and she's like, you don't feel no type of way
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
And I'm like, oh, I don't. She's like really, And
I'm like, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Like I'm one, I'm confident in me, and whatever you're
gonna do is whatever that you're gonna do. But culturally,
for them, it's looked at its disrespective as another man
because they're they're moral compasses made differently. So they're like,
they don't even think about that, what from but here? Man,

(01:14:07):
they don't care if you're with somebody, not with somebody
they coming at you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Mmm, I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know, man,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I just I feel like you gotta protect your own sanity,
you know what I'm saying. And I don't want to
take a lot of micro hurts, like a lot of
micro That's the ship that round you crazy, all of
wondering all that micro ship. That shit leads to a
big ass like tuma. How them tumors be getting big
and bigger? That's all they do. Just let me get

(01:14:44):
it in one dose where I can be like, shit,
I know I can't take this. All that little shit
add up to ship that starts starts to fuck with
your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
With my doctor when I had cancer, they said to me,
they were like, can't tell you that our medical opinion
on this. We can tell you what we feel, and
we feel that when you have negativity and negative energy,
it feeds into the tumor. So whatever we're doing, that
negative energy fights against it. And that negative energy when.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I agree with that, Because at the end of the day, Bro,
the niggas who live forever is the niggas that smiling
you think about. Just think about all the niggas who
always be smiling them. Niggas be having that same smile
for ninety something years, Bro, niggas who be frown them?

(01:15:41):
Niggas ask I don't know, bru. It's's like, oh, you
just fade in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Bro. It's a light on energy, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
The light flashed on you when your energies they won,
Bro telling your brother shit just shine on you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Like people people just drawn the right people are drawn
to you, bro, the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Wrong people can't even can't even fathom being around you
because it's not the same shit. It's just like you
just standing in a gay club. It's like a nigga
just in the bulldog. Bro, what the fuck is you
in here doing?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
It's a different vibration.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
It's the same shit. This shit don't work right here, Like,
hell no, how you not uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Nothing against them, just saying it's just not my environment,
or I'm just I'm just me bank, I'm just in
the goddamn pile of headhouse like everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Remember, fuckers just snowing like, hell, I'm just this shit cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
That ain't my environment, bro, Not saying something wrong with
what they're doing. It just ain't my environment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Yeah. So, and that's the same way like Eve.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Nigga on some positive working out, hiking and god damn
shiking and dyking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
With you need don't want to be on the energy,
so they ain't even gonna come around it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
So when you started a hight with banks, do you
think it was people that was going around in your circle? Like, Man,
I ain't on this type of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
No now, because I had an already God. I ain't
gonna say I God had an already melt that ship
down to you know what I'm saying, A dot with
the escamation on the escamation with the dot. You know
what I'm saying, it's already was stamped that whatever I
was doing, everybody was supporting so hard that they'll do

(01:17:38):
it with me to make sure that I'm staying focused
enough to do it. Like I don't hike with everybody
that's around me. Now, every single person that's around me,
don't like down to my kids, to my wife, to
my mama, to my sisters, to my assistance, to my
to Jade, to stream to everybody shot. Anybody that's around
me has stroke. They have been on the hike, you know,

(01:18:00):
no matter they came one time or every time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
You know, the first time I hike was with Hyke
with Bank and you know, I said to myself before
hike with Bands, I ain't doing no hiking, man, that's
just walking outside. That's what I thought to myself. I
was like, man, they're just walking outside. And when I
went out there for the first time, I'm like, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Even think about it. You just out there in the elements.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
You're feeling it and before you know what you're done
and then you want to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Yeah, that shit just a vibe, bro, Like s just
a vibe. That shit brought me out type of peace bro.
And mental checks and you know what I'm saying, Like
I just was checking myself. It's it's like it's a
long time, bro. You walk five miles to yourself, you
know what I'm saying. And I ask your phone ship, Bro,

(01:18:54):
you're checking yourself because you get to reflect, like you
go to you get to see your thoughts, like visualize
your thoughts. Like if you walking on the trail with
yourself around nature, all these woods in this water and
ship and you're thinking about what's some ship that don't matter,
it's gonna feel like it shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Matter that it is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Because I said this a couple of times when we've
been talking, I'm like, is that the bank today or
is that with the bank today be the same as
the bank yesterday? Because for me, no, I was just
about justin Justine today is a completely different person than.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I'm I'm saying I'm a different person than I was yesterday.
Like I'm keep it real, like I'm trying to do
this ship every day. I'm trying to change one little
micro thing every day, so I feel like every day
I'm different, Bro, tomorrow, Nigga, I'm trying to. I'm trying
to be Rath Vegan. I'm trying to I'm trying to
be the person that I always try to make other

(01:20:00):
people be.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
But that's how we do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I'm gonna keep saying that we look at everybody as
perfect when we fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
With them, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Why do you answer phone like this? Why you don't
you know what I'm saying, do yourself like that? M
That's what I'm doing. I'm doing myself like that. I'm
just overly challenging myself, bro, And I ain't afraid to
look to be like now that you ain't good at that?
You know what I'm saying. I ain't afraid to be like, shit,
this shit that ain't work. But for some reason, everything

(01:20:32):
a nigga touched God makes this shit God damn.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Enough. You know what I'm saying, Make it enough for me,
Like I ain't, I ain't finna walk in the shutter
knowing that on favored.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
That's what niggas do. Niggas know they favor women. Everybody
know they favor you. Know you're different. You know you're
not like anybody that came up around you. You know
you're not like no one you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
But you'll try to blend in just because you don't
want them to down. People to think. I don't want
to think on ji oh, but is that a bank
today from a bank yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
And I'm gonna sell you Why I keep saying this
because so my grandma, my grandmother, died when I was
twelve years old. And so one of the things that
my grandmama said to me was she was like, you
got you got a great voice. She was like, you
can not a singing voice like my voice. What I say,
she was like, you use that voice for good or

(01:21:32):
you can use that voice for evil. It's up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Let me say this. I'm gonna go answer the question
that you asked me, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I'm the same exact person, but then I just was
in survival mode, so certain certain responses warranted the environment.
Get what I'm saying, Like certain responses, I had to
be this way because this how it is tought your core.

(01:22:03):
You was always in my core. I was always banking.
I was always a leader. I was always the person
that walked my own road. I was always this person
who I am, cash maker. I was always this person,
the same exact person, but just more aggressive, more short tempered,
more uh no nonsense, more zero understanding, because that what

(01:22:26):
was understood in that era. You get what I'm saying.
That was that was understood like pressure, it's either presser
or prey, which one you gonna be? Ain't no middle.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
So it's like, shit, did what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Did what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
So certain thing that you know you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Do or you shouldn't do it, you wouldn't do I
gotta do ja cuz they won't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I ain't playing like that or however it goes. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
So, but it's always been and I've always avoid comforting,
like I'm non confrontational for real, been that way. But
if you want a confrontation, I don't mind a conversation.
You know what I'm saying, like shit, and I'm gonna
go hard because I'm scared. Don't scare me, bro, don't
make my anxiety going, don't make me go to feeling

(01:23:17):
but you're ass in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
That's why I stay away from the clubs and all
that shit. I don't want to get in that, you
know what I'm saying. Back again to wild Ship where
I got a strike. I don't want to be like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
It's called fight a flight. You're gonna need to fight.
You're gonna fight, You're gonna flee. You choose to fight,
Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
I would. I wouldn't let me think about it. I would.
I wouldn't let me think about it, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I think I asked you it for. Would you commit
a crime to continue to feed your family and live
a lifestyle you want to live?

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
I would.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
My family is most important to me and my role
as a provider. I'm going to do whatever it takes
to take care of my family.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Would you ever try to take another tempt on your life?

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
I wouldn't it ain't worth it. Nothing is worth at
the end of the day. I got to think about
my creator. Whatever it is you believe in, gave you
the opportunity to be here. So for me to go
ahead and say I'm going to take that away from
what created me is a disrespect to the creator.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Facts. Would you be in a polar relationship if your
wife said she wanted to have another wife with y'all?
Gotta think about that, Nigga, I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
I gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
I know she gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Somebody, let me tell you why. I gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I gotta think about it. What's you trying to do?
What else?

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
What else? What else you need?

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Trying to do?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
She know?

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
You won't, bro, It's about me. It's not about you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
What you mean? She she she like puts it. Do
what's that?

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Bro? Let's get down.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
I gotta think about it. It depends on It depends
on who you with. I'm talking about your wife. Now,
my wife would how you gonna say what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
She wouldn't? How you know she don't have a mask
on today? How you know she just know, like this
is what I'm supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
What she's just have a come to god moment and
be like, you know what, bro, I think I know
what would make you happy or happier.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
I know you're happy. You deserve this case.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Is this the thing that you know?

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
One? What? You mean? Nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
There's some things in life.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
The only thing I know one is I'm probably gonna
pass away with this color on my skin. You know that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I don't think so. I don't think she would. You
know that one hundred percent? I think so should I
think so? I can't say that, bro, Like that's the same,
that's arrogant. That the same things putting.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Me think I know who? She can't got nothing to
do with me, just knowing you ready to turn this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
I'm glad you saying this. Huh what if? No? Not
hypothetically speak? Okay, I get it will come back to that. No,
not hypothings.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
That's great though, Courton. What I'm trying to ask you is, sir,
you saying that you feel as if though you can
tell in your heart what a person wouldn't do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Yeah, I have a feeling. How do you so?

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
In your forty seven years, life hasn't showed you that
people would do anything? Where did you grow up at
life has showed me that I've lived the ship that
I've seen that I thought people wouldn't do, Like motherfucker
wouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
We're in a different world than people that are from
a different space and time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
We're talking about what we just talked about, the smallest
less peanut business and ship pastors.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
That's what I'm saying. We've seen things that we should know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
What I'm saying that I ain't talking about that, bro,
We've seen people do things that we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
We've seen people make robots that are human that any
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
So that's what I'm saying. So how can you put
that past anyone? I've seen mothers killed their throw their
kids in the ocean. We've seen mothers do things to
their kids unless their kids me and molest their daughters.
How can we put things past people? So I tell
you this, there's something there's certain.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
It's a thing. I'm not saying. It's right. There's no
doubt that supports this. I believe in something that's called
the crazy eyes. You can look in somebody's eyes and
tell that they crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Man. I know some bitches line I'm telling you, but
good they their eyes lie either.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
It know how to come with sincere sincerity.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Line like I wouldn't know you a line unless I
knew you were line like I would have believed that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Like you got some Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I'm telling you, EHOs Bro put it on everything. I lie, Buddha,
my grandkids, my baby can't die at night.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
I don't seen them do it. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
I just think that I respect.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Those are people that's afraid to lose what's in front
of them because of a mistake they have made.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
You have people that's innocent, people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
That makes mistakes that they wish they didn't do it,
And I wish you'd never believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I know everything wrong. I knew that I would do
it wrong as you as a man. Some people don't
have that mindset. But you listen, you try to kill yourself.
That's wrong. You didn't. You ain't know that when you
did it. You did it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
You blanked out people blank out. But I was arrogant,
and I think arrogance we can't get around. I'm gonna
tell you something about arrogance. Okay, arrogance will fuck you
up for sure. How you know that these people wouldn't
get arrogant?

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
That's true, not them facts, but arrogance in itself will
make you do whatever the facts.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
But what I'm saying, people wake up different every day,
and motherfucker, Like I said, you can know a motherfucker
last night and tomorrow they can be a totally different
person due to their circumstances or something that's going on. Now,
we never knew, We never know what people insecurities are.

(01:30:21):
We never know what people's thoughts are. Bro, So you
we never know when your breaking point is. I give
you this, I'm nine a nine point ninety nine percent. See,
now you're putting doubt in and once you doubt it,
reason with doubt dismissed. Once you put it, you can't
change either your know you're not not a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Nine point I'm not not a nine point nine nine percent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
So it's a possibility. Once it's a possibility. She Once
it's a possibility. That's all I be wanting people to say, Bro,
you got nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
It could be based off of what I do, It
could be based off you know what I'm gonna show
this person, so then I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
That's the nine to nine.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Point Do you think in a relation in most relationships,
one or the other is cheating. What percentage of relationship
you think one of the other's spouse is cheating?

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
What percentage fifty fifty?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
It could be that's kept fifty fifty, it's kept eighty
percent of relationships.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Somebody is cheating, I.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Think Nah, I think we actually saying the same thing.
We just looking at our percentage.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
You know what I'm saying? Eighty percentage? An ever, I
mean a relatedbody, either the male or the female, is cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Eighty percent. It's rare.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
I'm gonna take it down in ninety. Bro, it's ten
percent of people. That's being one hundred percent faithful? Are
you saying in your relationship right now? Eighty percent? Either way?
Somebody fighting? Probably somebody doing something for sure, this is
what it is. One of us are doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I don't know who it is. It could be both.
I don't know. Somebody is doing something or has done something.
That's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
BRO to me, Like, BRO, I done seen some women, BRO,
Like you wouldn't believe that. I don't know what made
me do that, Like I would. You wouldn't even believe it, Bro.
And that and one thing about them, some women they
have some stand in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I ain't been nowhere in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Letn rephrase in Atlanta. If you're in Atlanta, Bro, that's Atlanta.
It's just because Atlanta's different. But no, you got some
women that ain't gonna say yeah, I'm gonna take that
percentage to Atlanta because you got some women that's solid,
and you got some men that solid. But if they

(01:32:56):
outside and all the industry life, that culture ship, that lost.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Call outside of Atlanta, New York, LA, that ain't really
that ain't really happening like that. You gotta think in
in Cornfield, Kentucky, it ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Like man, the whole fucking the milk man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Bro, Listen, I'm gonna tell you why people don't do
ship because they can't get away with it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
That's how I feel bro about everything. I don't think everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
I don't think nobody, So you think nobody is actually
like I think some people don't think. Own't knowm Like
I'm speaking on the people I know, bro, like these.
I know pastors, I know congressmans, I know counselmans, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Deacons. I know niggas to run hotels, I know niggas
that play golf.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
The conversation has yet to change. When they're comfortable, I
wouldn't give a fuck what you said. We turned this
shit on, it's gonna be different.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Get in front of the ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
It's some nega to know how to make the ladies
look look at me like I'm so bullshit, be cause
I'm telling the truth, Like I don't know what bank
be talking about. But them niggas get with me somewhere
on the golf course or somewhere. Them niggas know exactly
what the fuck on the top.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Of I don't know what you get what I'm saying. No,
but you get what I'm saying. No bro shp Almus
say not not no personal shit. Y'all get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
It's some nigga that just are better liars.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I ain't no good liar because I forget shit, so
I be gonna told her lie and then forgot the damn.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
The root of my lie. So I just don't say
shit or just just saying man, I don't know how
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Some niggas are professionals. Like I said earlier, if you
didn't like I done, heard niggas say ship that I
was like, if I was with you, I would believe you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Bro, you're a sincere liar, that nigga he actually is
sincereos like you believe it, like you make it be believed,
like that's myself did we got damn Just go to
the dentists, you know, but all bush inside of just
I just look at life through the Bye four.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
I got bye fold. I see far in near, I'm
nearing far sided. I got a double in my in
my glasses, even in my sun glasses. I got my
ship clear, so I could just see this ship from
all angles. Bro, and niggas can too. People can't too,
but they just afraid to say that they do because
once I say how I see afraid? They afraid because

(01:35:43):
that that exposed my hand. You know what I'm saying,
hand For some people, they're playing a game with me.
I don't give a about exposed my hand because I'm
giving you a I'm giving you a what do you
call it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
An option to deal with me?

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
You know who you're dealing with, same way with Trump
three thousand in them, Gemini, Prince Kanye, Tupac. You get
a choice. Soon as you meet this person and my trivial,
you know exactly who they is. Off top they not,
They not Kendrick, They not showing you nobody but themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
And that's Gemini shit.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
So I'm gonna go back to what we said, what
we were talked about earlier, when I said that everybody
doesn't deserve access to you, that is included in that
because you can be yourself one hundred percent around the
people that deserve to have access to you. Fuck the bat,
the basic versus the VIP access. It's just access in general.

(01:36:50):
And when you're able to be yourself one, those are
the people that deserve to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
But the thing about it, with me being one hundred
percent no matter what, it fights off the people that
can't be around. Back to that, I'm telling you, it's
like niggas already knowing because I'm so vocal. I'm gonna
say some ship that a nigga fit them shoes, nigga
like I can't fuck a bank. I'm gonna be like,
if I'm a nigga to be like, you know what

(01:37:16):
I'm saying, what kind of nigga the opinionated that nigga
saying like Lou, I don't even fuck what we we
be on a golf.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Course like whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Like but the nigga that won't access to you, it's
still gonna be around that bank.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
You know what I'm saying, But I can I can
see it in them, nigga, but I can cr I
can see you cringe when I speak it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Yeah, but guess what, he's still gonna be right there now.
He ain't. I'm telling you he ain't. Bro, He's gonna try.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
You don't think you got anybody right now that don't
deserve access to bank. That's that's that's hanging on somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
And I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
We everybody around me we using each other. We're using
each other to the max, even the ones that we love.
We're all using each other to make each other better
and make ourselves better. So it's like a it's like
a a cycle or that we're trying to. I mean,
it's like a machine that's working, you know what I'm saying,
So force that's working. So they deserve to be around

(01:38:13):
me because you're making me better and I'm making you better.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
And so the ones there's no no, no, that that's
that's that's that's to me, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
If I can tolerate you enough to be around you
and ask your call, you deserve access to me. I
ain't dealing with no ship. That ain't it ain't nobody
around me. Then I'm questioning right now. It's the people
around me that I disagree with the antics, But I
ain't questioning this person.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Those people out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
God did it already for me. He did it perfectly,
bro like like to like broke the house all the
way down to the foundation. Bro went in there and
gluten cracks up. Ship were building them. It's shit stronger
than THEO A doubt. Letna say everybody what I'm saying.
Time everybody sending like niggas used to send me, Like
I said, niggas used to send me fights and niggas

(01:39:05):
getting shy in news clip. I don't get none of
that no more. I like it is keep going, brother,
motivational ass ship and ship that's it in funny ship.
Thiggas want to see you smile and motivate you them
the niggas you need around you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
You know what I'm saying, Like and I and I
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Looking at that ship receiving that I ain't even receiving
that energy of a nigga trying to tell me what
little such and such them did and who said I
ain't even hearing that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
You said some on another podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
You were like when somebody said, what you know, when
did this change happen for bank and you said it
was around the Rico time or whatever, but it was
probably really before that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
So it was I just, you know, I say certain
shiit just to get responsed to. Niggas started laughing because
they do. My company was on the list and all
that shit. So I just say certain ship that niggas
feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
But what wasn't really though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
From grand babies and just just not seeing the results
of being that nigga. I was seeing results like money,
niggas getting money and shit, but I wasn't seeing no
growth in myself, Like I wasn't like I'm a nigga

(01:40:20):
that want to reach all heights, bro, Like I ain't
gonna never be satisfied. I want them niggas like that,
like I'm grateful, but I ain't gonna satisfy that nigga
like nothing nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Like nothing like bro longer day bro, any car of
about Bro, like get this and I'm gonna get this
or like that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
You know what I'm saying. I never got nothing that
I cherished. But people mm hmm unto about they can
be jeered nigga. You see jyr on a lot of
these niggas, the rappers who be nohing that was my ship,
you can have it. I'm a nigga that give you
some shit that you don't give people. I give on

(01:41:04):
my clothes every month.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
I don't want that shit no more. I just a
nigga that like, we had a whole bunch of friends
in this motherfucker. Hey, if you can come get it,
come get I just about this shit according to when
it got that shit for me, new shit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
This sh is new, not even two months old.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Get it. I even turned shit to the studio they
called around to day a'ybody knows somebody wanting to case
California came bed and get that motherfucker out of there too.
It's just I don't care about material shit, bro at
all that shit. I've always been the type of person
that can be okay with being me. I've always been

(01:41:42):
accepted as just being me, no matter what it could
be some crims, no matter whether the people can be like,
you shouldn't say that, you shouldn't say that. But when
they see how comfortable or how I am, how they
took it and still don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Like so.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
It kind of helped them a little bit, like that
is wrong because we was taught that was wrong. But
he can wear wrong so good he don't even give
a fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
It was one time we went in the hike and
I don't know if you remember, it was these these
trucks coming and we were everybody was in the street,
like the whole height, everybody was in there. Yeah, and
then you were like man, cracking crowd and and like
you just like you glitched for a moment and then

(01:42:30):
you looked over at you like my bad man, I'm
going corporate, but you thought.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
But it took for the people. Coco and Courtney. Courtney
studied telling peoplen y'all get out the street. Fuck him,
and Coco grabbed my arm like nah bag. She brought
me back to reality. But I still felt like, man, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Them crack and walking off.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I'm just being one hundred. I still felt like that
even day white, what day, that's white? What day he
was he was fire red.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
But it is what it is. I just because I
was in the moment of look at my people, brother.
Look what I just did.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Bro. Look at all these people on their bridge, brohiking.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
With bank ship. Brother, the folks happened, cameras up we
jugging this ship. Kid. It said, we live in life,
no frowns in sight.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
And it just just kind of took over me. You
know what I'm saying. But I don't be thinking. See,
I be thinking. God a real nigga, you know what
I'm saying. Like in my heart, I feel like God
a real nigga, the one I serve. I don't know
the way y'all what other people serve as in No,
you have to speak to him this way or be
this way. I feel like God, No, like you judge

(01:43:43):
you off your heart like Bro, like I know you
just got incited.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Bro, I know you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
You ain't mean you know what I'm saying, He and tripping.
He gonna keep rhying with you when you when your
heart ain't fucked up. I keep telling niggas niggas sitting
around mad at other people. Bro, ain't nobody to feel that.
But you're on God. You know what I'm saying. A nigga,
ain't mad that you mad? I'm glad you're mad at me.
God like come as you are.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Yeah, you mad, I'm still on my ship. I ain't
thinking about what you're thinking about, Bro, but.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
I think God has come as you are. But don't
leave as you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
I thank God fucking with niggas, Man, What do you
mean by that? I thank God fucking with niggas, But
I think he fucked with you how you is. You
just gotta know how you is and except how you is,
and don't try to fake him if you don't think
I want you to change and be better, change to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
What I made you. How is no, Bro, I made
you how you. I want you to have a great character,
but I made you how you are.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
That But what is great character?

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Great characters? Whatever suits your character to me? Great character?
Me and you could be different things, Bro, My eduque
could be different. I could be you know what I'm saying,
cursing but had the best heart in the world, cursing
around the same motherfucker's al ready to buy buy a
kidning it for but you type motherfuck you could be

(01:45:13):
type of motherfucker be like, Bro, that ain't my problem.
But my heart tell me I may not sound as
if though I'm a good guy, but because how direct
I am and blunt and and I don't give a
fuck or fuck, But that shit don't mean.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
I can I cuss you out by.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Doing something good for you at the same time, Like, man,
this nigga always nigga, why the fucking woo? Why ain't
pay for your insurance but still give any folks the
money to save your motherfucking life.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
That's a difference. People gotta know what love is.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I can like, Bro, this shit crazy when you grew
up in the ghetto like or you grew up in
in just urban areas, Bro, with a real grandmama and
a real daddy, like love felt love hurt Backni, Yeah,
like I can feel my grandma upset that she had
to whoop my ass. You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,

(01:46:08):
I don't want to whooping your ass, but you're too bad.
Like I'm the nigga used to get woke up in
the morning before you go to school, Like wake up,
who the covers off heat for ship because I'm just
gonna whoop your ad to day car might be tired
for what you finish? Do I know you're finish go
to school, act cup, So I'm gonna whoop your ass
in the morning for nothing, because I'm gonna be tired
when you get out of school. They gonna call me like,
I just get my ad just going to your ass?

(01:46:29):
Whoop me for this shot man. Let me tell you
something when I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I was that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
So my grandmama, I we grew up when I was younger, younger,
we grew up in an area called Pool Creek. And yeah,
you know pool Creek is right, And so during that
time in Pool Creek, I was bad. Like I was
the one that was like people be like, say another
curse word, say this whatever, and I was just like whatever.

(01:46:58):
My grandmama was working for these white people. She would
clean the house like min entire she bought our house
from cleaning behind white folks. My clothes was cleaning behind
white folks. Like her whole my whole existence came from
her cleaning for white people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
We moved a college park.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
We think we were up now, like you know, we
got a couple of white people on our street or
whatever we we thought we were. We thought we was it.
And then all of us moved in and then college
part turned into something turning into something different. But in
my grandmother's mind, she thought that these were good white folks.

(01:47:42):
Because these good white folks gave an opportunity that took
care of me. Yeah, so in my mind I had
to look at it. I'm like, how can I hate
so much what my grandmother used in order to get
me where I am today?

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
So you want to be a cracker, No, But from
my point, my point is we gotta be able to
look at things for what they are. Man, I look
at this ship like that. Bro, niggas don't understand that. Bro,
when you look at these nigga concerts, Bro, these black

(01:48:20):
niggas concerts and ship. All the white kids at the concerts,
they want to be us. When you go over there
and try to beat them, that's when they lose all
respect for you. Like, Bro, I'm telling we just out
there playing some white boys today. My partner he out
there talking like them. I'm out there smoking my blunt
like go tell yeah before we love bank.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Man, When do you play all here where you when
you ring your ray your rare rare?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Cause they knowing this is he don't Bro. I'm telling you, bro,
real people fuck with real people. You can people motherfucker
trying to appease you. I can repeat that, immediately you
trying to be how you think I want.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
You to be.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Immediately red flag. That's in life.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Everybody know that people walk in offices like, Bro, anytime
on give fuck where I go, Bro, I'm gonna be
banking them. People gonna be like he's wow right or
whatever today be like nah, this nigga he got sense.
He's just him unapologetically. When you try to bleand in
them folks, Bro, that's when they paint you out the picture, bro, immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
My whole part of this was my grandmother. She sacrificed
a part of herself. She sacrificed addictedy. She sacrificed because
she saw and she said, this one right here, he
gonna be the one. Oh yeah, Like I'm gonna do
whatever I gotta do. So she went and she cleaned

(01:49:54):
behind these white folks. So she did whatever she needed
to do because she said, this dude, right now, you
gotta handle your business. Though, it's gonna be the one.
So it's I guess my whole point, and what I'm
saying is what are we really doing when I talked
about earlier, when I talked about the culture, and fuck
the culture?

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
What is the culture? I don't know no man, no coach.
I'm looking at this ship like for what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
At the end of the day, I fuck who fuck
with me? Bro? That's the culture? I fuck? Who fuck
with me?

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
You don't fuck with me?

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Thank you? You know how many people?

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
And I'm gonna keep saying the same shit over and
over again to people. Get it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
You're how many people you can meet if you even
if you delete all the people you know? I ain't
forget all y'all right now, like fuck Courtney, fuck shy,
fuck justin fuck everybody, wipe my memory. But I still
got good sense and tomorrow I can meet the same
amount of people I know now and one day.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
So why the fuck is we stuck on leasing people
based off of what we think they are or what
that other that culture is you rock with? Who rock
with you? That's it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I don't even fuck what color they is. I don't
even fuck. Ain't no, I don't even fuck buy nothing that.
I ain't racist, ain't nothing. I don't care, Bro. I
don't Whatever matches me matches me. That shit don't match it.
Don't you vote for I ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
I ain't gonna say I'm gonna vote Trump probably if
I vote. If I don't vote, they say it the
same things. Vote for Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Nigga Tipta probably got damn red his here of me
saying that them nigga mad here them, nigga hate hated them,
hate Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
But by Ba to Bye by that motherfucker that he
was on five wind piss on him.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
I could see that right now, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
But I don't know, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
It's like bru, I rather have and I ain't see.
I probably sound eating her saying this because I ain't.
I ain't really up on the politics shit. I'm up
on characters. Trump characters fucked up, but you're.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Not hiding it. Guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Joe Biden character is waged ten times a million times
worse than Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Like I rather like a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
I respect holes who just I'm a whole nigga. Damn
that I love them kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Women because you're giving me a choice. You can mess
with you or not.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
It's them bitches who got there can cry on a
damn line. You gotta watch out for them. Them the victims,
Oh who got damn kind of make you feel like
she don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
You know what I'm saying, Bro, I don't even really
give no fuck. Bro, like she hit me when you done?

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Nigga Like yeah, because she she she's standing on you
know what I'm saying, She's standing on something different. It's
that fake shit. I can't deal with, Bro, That's what
anybody that's like. I don't even give people that I
love and I fucked with a chance to lie to me.
I tell them I know something, I come direct. Hey,

(01:53:12):
this is what happened. Don't try to defend that. This
is what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Just don't do that. Yeah, I ain't even gonna let
you try to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Cuddle me or make me because then I ain't gonna
be able to trust you. Because I want to trust you.
I'm telling you how I feel about what I know
you've done. And you could be comfortable with that because
you allow a few mistakes, because we all make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
But don't do that no more. You know what I'm saying.
So before you lie, just think about that because I
told it to you. You know what I'm saying. You
got mother.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
You try to put them on the fucking the line
all that they lie. Now, you don't created something else
that you don't even know. You created for this person
repercussions of that life that makes sense. Like I asked
you something, you be like no, no, no, no, no
no no no, and never you going back and forth,
and then you know I'll caught you in a lie
and you're looking all stupid and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Now I just can't you just a fucking liar of me,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
It's just like man lying that bitch and now you
say I believe no more. I ain't even gonna set
you up like that. What I'm gonna do is tell
you how I feel about.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
What you've done.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
And give you the option and a chance to never
do that again if you value what we got. Because
if you do that again, I'm telling you that ain't
how I rock. That's gonna make me feel this way
about you, and then you gonna feel like I'm wrong
because I'm gonna say fuck you for real, So.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Don't do that ever. By me letting you do that
and telling you don't do.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
That again, that's just me, that's my that's me taking
the first one on the chin to show you I
really love you, because I usually don't even give people
that one shot with that. You know what I'm saying,
so you're rocking with Trump, I already don't give a
fuck who in bro, This shit fucked up for niggas
either way, Like you said, Bro, But I feel like

(01:55:21):
Trump type of nigga. Now I could be wrong this
perspective with Bank. These are not facts. That's just my perspective.
I feel like Trump the type of nigga who it's
self centered and don't give a fuck about nobody but
itself right facts all. At the same time, I feel

(01:55:46):
like he was to take that same mentality out on
the world for America. Basically, fuck all them. Whatever y'all
want from up, y'all ain't getting to y'all do this.
I feel like Trump are pressed for us. Niggas can
get some paper and he'll go make this ship start
back flowing no matter how.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
He don't give a fuck about the deficit. Likew they
be saying.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
America sixty trillion in debt. Trump, don't give a fuck,
this is all fake. Just bring it over here, don't
give a fuck, Koh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
We ow anyway, you know what I'm saying, biting them,
trying to take out our mouth, giving the other niggas
put us further than debt by getting this shit away.
Trump like basically letting them folks lay on beef. Fuck
we spending on over here for keep make America great again.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
I'm over here, gotta do politics.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
I'm over here, bro, Well you know what I'm saying.
I'm over here. So the niggash's saying team us, it's
not really even if he ain't something about black people.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
I'm here. We we we we we know what we wiggles.
We know how to will what they doing. You know
what I'm saying. It's a nigga gonna always.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Be right there, sniff it out and bring it back
up as long as it's over here.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Bro, we know how to wiggle up it. Bro, you

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
So I'm like, man, whatever gonna make this ship? Man,
everything too high, Bro, Niggas who had money ain't got money.
Niggas who got money really ain't even got money. Ship
so high rich. Niggas ain't even rich no more. And
they got the money, but it just ain't this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
It's beening different. She ain't never been like that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Man like niggas is begging like unapologetically niggas, we'll ask
you for some ship like niggas ain't never hey, bro,
you know, I know ask you something.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
After what? Bro? You know I had got there, I
got this what's you name? The loss who coming through?

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
But uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Bruh, you man, he personally ask me that they don't
need no access to me. I can't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I know too many niggas that fucked up though they
gonna get it off, but I'm just telling me I
work for their money. Now I can't get away. I
know too many niggas like like, that's why you know
I do things in the community. But I got a
lot of niggas fucked up right round and I can
call and be like and do something for to be

(01:58:31):
charity work. I know too many fucked up regular people
eat this ship the same way with flies on the
Here you two my city of mother in Africa, help
your peace.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
You got a non profit foundation, dude?

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Yeah? Nah, I just got my five oh three what
do you call it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
I just got that, just went through man ce d
t Yeah, Curating Different Thoughts Foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Aka Klavey David Tatum Forever.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
You know what I'm saying, it's lie, It's lie. We
lit You know what I'm saying we got logo and everything.
It's dope, man, And were just gonna curate different thoughts. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
You know, you know the one thing about you know,
like not to get you into in today too much,
but when you find relationships with people that help build
you in that iron sharpened iron relationships, Like I think
this type of foundation is important for people.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
We don't do that for each other, No, for sure,
Like we're not trying to sharpen each other the way
we need to sharpen each other to get us to
the next level.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
No, no facts, I agree. I agree with you one
one million.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
It's like, Bro, that's one nigga that I can say
now because he passed away that was silent, Like I
don't feel like you can be solid until you pass
away silent because you always got a chance to do
some whole ass shit. That's just how I was raised. Like,

(02:00:16):
I ain't putting that past nobody. I feel like what
homage it did?

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
He did it. He wanted a niggas that I can't
say was flawed, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
I won't give a fuck who you meet a nigga say,
nigga had their own attitudes and light skinned nigga shit
and whatever the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
Fuck, But the nigga ain't flaw.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
To the point of, you know, against the coast and
moral flaw because everybody have flaws, it's people. But what
I'm saying like nigga just a flaw ass nigga. Nigga
hating on a nigga or this nigga that or this
nigga holding his nuts, so you ain't seen that the
back door.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
You ain't seen that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Can't put that on an So I feel like when
a nigga passed away solid, they deserve God damn floats
and boats and god Damn parades and shit man on
their birthdays. Bro, Cause this ship rare bro, Yeah, this
ship raal. You look back on these nigga like yeah, Bro,

(02:01:19):
I hate the niggas. So many niggas look back on
the nigga like hate. He passed away, but he was
kind of whole as nigga, Like you know how nigga
be like I can see.

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
It, No not homing bro.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
With that being said, We're gonna make sure we keep
the nigga name alive long as I'm here. Godless man like.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Ah man, But you can't put your trust in people, Bro,
you can't put your trust in people. I just you
make it. Some people can can. I can trust you
to know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
I ain't even gonna allow you to miss for me
to mistrust you, that makes sense. I ain't even putting
the with the burden on you to be too real
to me. Like when you create them false expectations of people,
that's when they let you down.

Speaker 3 (02:02:08):
You're not finn to give people that much credit.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
No, or that much power to put something in me.
That's what I'm saying. Like, even if.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Me and Chante just went through, Okay, she's got another
husband or whatever, she had a whole nother relationship, I
would be let down, but I wouldn't resent her because
I already know people would do some ship like that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
So you cool with that?

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Cool what? No, she gonna have to go one on
by the business. No what, she had a husband. I
ain't saying them cool with.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
I'm saying if I find out, she's gonna have to
get the funk away fro around me because she's donna
look like Dick. But I would still be able to
be okay with with the dynamics of it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
I wouldn't harbored on me. I just be like, damn yeah,
I just be like, damn sh what else I should?

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
I could, I could, I would take it with a
grain of salt. But I wouldn't be no better ass
nigga wish no bad on her or still win it.
I still will have a back one hundred percent. That's
just how I am. But I can't be intimate with
you no more.

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
But can you say yes or know that she would
wouldn't do that?

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Fuck? No, you couldn't. Well, man, I ain't putting that
pat did you going back? Yeah? No, I ain't. Nigga
be a damn bro.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
I hate when men say or people I know he
wouldn't do it like you said, I know she wouldn't
do that to me. That's delusion. How you gonna say
what you know another motherfucker won't do? Mm hmm, that's crazy.
You know what you would do, though I ain't know
exactly what I would. I don't even know what I would.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
You didn't know. You was like your wrist, So how
you know what another motherfucker won't do? You don't even
know what you might do? You never know, You never
know we pray I got faith and hope you don't, but.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
I don't know for real real That's all I be saying, Bro.
And that's that's the harsh reality and truth of the shit.
Like I please don't do that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
I hope you don't. I pray you don't, but you might,
but you might.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
It's a possibility, like you said nine nine nine nine
point nine, that possibility to be strong, bro, and people
right though, real shit, Bro, And I ain't trying to
have niggas looking at their people craze or none of that.
I'm just being logical about people people, bro, And it

(02:04:50):
ain't that just ain't no Atlanta shit. It's like, Bro,
people are shocking people every day. Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
And man Bob been cool for sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
On his jail, he come to mother for with a
ak tomorrow morning and shoot every motherfucking body and explain
why he doing it?

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
Bit you ate my lunch.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
In nineteen sixties, he been mad at everybody all the time,
getting loose at Listen before people do something, wasn't they normal? No,
I'm saying some people have traits, but I'm saying, like

(02:05:28):
we've seen shocking things for mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
Hm, that's real.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
That person wasn't like that yesterday, not in my not
what I saw. And then it happened and then they
exposed itself.

Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
Yeah. Man, it's like, man, I don't know, it's the
biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
When I went and when I when I did what
I did to myself, I'm sending an ambulance and I'm
looking at myself like I'm stupid.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
That's how the women be after they be gonna did dick,
like on the ride home, like why would I drink that?

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
Yeah, I'm sitting they looking at me and they asked
me all these questions and I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Like, I'm good. I'm just sitting here feeling like stupid,
like I can't believe I just did this. And then
then she she came to the hospital, and you felt
sort of a relief because you saw your herd like
she hears, she care. I ain't feeling nothing better. You better.

(02:06:39):
So what were conversations. I'm glad you brought that back up.
What the conversation was like?

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
To get back cool to everybody, I'm saying you stayed
a year, So what the conversations like? Like I had kids,
So I'm saying what y'all was talking about. We weren't talking,
so y'all was just in the house on the same
roof and just really you ready to choke the bitch
out like on Love ready to go.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
I wasn't even ready trouble nobody. I'm just ready to go.
Like I'm like, I'm what am I doing here? So
you're still sucking them? Yeah? But that ship what I'm saying,
like you're.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Still in the same like I mean, no, You're just
looking at things different.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Man. You just like you're not even thinking saying what
was you thinking about? Like?

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
Bro, man, you trust me, I wasn't thinking saying I
wasn't like, so I'm saying while you hearing that ship,
what's all your mind?

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
Like? Uh did bitch? You know? Man, you're thinking like
what what am I doing? Like why am I even here?
And then you end up not being.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
How many times you hear them for y'all look like
I don't know a lot? So you had to feel something, bro,
Like you bro, were you trying to spark it back up?

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
That's what you was doing.

Speaker 3 (02:07:48):
I'm just being active.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
You just get you up, that's it. You kiss him? Yeah? Yeah,
you see such some type of niggash if I tried,
ship gonna shift like.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
I ain't kissing you want to fix me? No food
or nothing, don't call on me, you stick on your
breath real like gone.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Man that she is Like, EO, how can am I tripping?

Speaker 3 (02:08:21):
Shot?

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
I got ahead you when you attempted to commit suicide?
Did you do it right after you found out or
you let some time? It was immediate he dropped the
phone and grabbed the night.

Speaker 3 (02:08:34):
I lost it, like I lost that glitch. I was
literally I was like, I'm done. I think it was.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
I think it was the arrogance of like this just
happened to me. Oh this this me.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
Like and that's the thing like when I when I think,
but I'm saying, if you have went through it, like
let's let's let's break this.

Speaker 3 (02:08:59):
See if I die, if you die, what would you
have accomplished? Man, I'm the stupidest person on earth.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
The Guinness Book a world record, like damn you deserve.

Speaker 3 (02:09:12):
And I hate like I don't ever want like you know,
like message, I don't ever want to call somebody stupid
for going like thinking about it, going to that level.

Speaker 1 (02:09:23):
But I just want you to care about yourself more
like a.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Lot of niggas is doing that ship more too, and
these guys are actually doing it, like a lot of
niggas killing themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Like I wonder, I don't want, I don't want. I hope. No,
I just pray for everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
Man, I pray for everybody has strength enough to know
that that one moment don't find define you.

Speaker 3 (02:09:46):
I'm telling I keep going back to that arrogance word, man,
But well, for me, I know I was arrogant, like
I'm like this, like this ain't gonna happen to me,
Like I'm the one like I'm doing this, I'm doing this,
I'm doing this, I'm doing this. None of that matters,
like at the end of the day, because guess what,
it's still it still happened. And so I think once you,

(02:10:07):
once you realize kind of what you say, like that
nine a nine point nine percent, anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
And so I just so, what are you the type
of nigga saying that you knew she wouldn't do it?
Like do you tell about that type of and you're
still saying that you crazy?

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:10:25):
No, I just think you have to believe, man, the
good and people.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
You have to know you've been through it. God showed you.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
Would hope that they wouldn't do it, and that's that
nine nine percent. I would hope, Yeah, that you that's
that you wouldn't do that. I guess things don't happen
to me because I know you would do that. I'm
just keeping it real in my mind. You're already guilty
to you prove an innocent. Like I said, you gotta

(02:10:55):
pass away that way. Yeah, we separate. If we separate,
I can't say what you do after or before me.
We separate, ud be like.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
Shit, we was cool. We ain't have no problem.

Speaker 3 (02:11:08):
You're just hoping the good of people.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
At the end of the day. I think you just
hope that people are gonna be good. We have, we
have the She's good right now. You're doing what you're doing,
but it's right now.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
And it's the people that disagree with the person that
I am, Well fuck them, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
I'm smoking buns, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Some people that disagree with me, I'm saying cuss words
in the same sentence as God.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
It's people that disagree with the person that I am.
But I don't give what fuck.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Yeah, but they're not meant for you. Thank you, They're
not meant for you at the end of the day.
I mean, you could tell let's tell something.

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
My my father sold drugs, my father abused my mom,
did a whole lot of other stuff. I don't know
what was going through his mind at the time or
whatever was going on with him, but I know, and
I didn't have a relationship with him. But my sister
I think he's the best person in the world. Why

(02:12:08):
there was some good that was in him that makes
her think that he is the best person.

Speaker 1 (02:12:13):
In the world. It's some good and everybody for she.

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
It wasn't that for me, but he was that for her.
That just one't meant for me and him. But that
doesn't mean and I miss him and I wish that
I had a better relationship with him when he died.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
I think it's hard for us to accept that people
have their own that people have their own mind, basically
like their own will, their own they can make their
own decisions. Like we feel as if though we should
be able to control just because I love you and

(02:12:49):
you say you love me, you should put me.

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
Over everything. That's arrogance. We as people feel as though.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
Even I'm telling it can be And in one of
y'all y'all as the phone, I would feel a way
if I was stealing that saying like, I don't know
what the fuck do you folks.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
Got their whole life, they don't live with me to
eat it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:12):
But you can't be like that, bro, because you can't
make yourself so important to a motherfucker that you want
them to compromise them for you.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
And that's what people be want, Like you want me
to care about you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
That I compromise, Like I make myself uncomfortable, like you're
doing things like I could put myself out there for you, right,
you could be my friend and I can do something
from you that I know you're not worthy of, hoping
that me doing this for you makes you know that
I'm your real friend. So you're gonna pay me back
with being a real friend also. And then when I

(02:13:49):
been in this decision go sour, you feel like just
because it's you, I should compromise myself. When I don't
compromise myself, I'm acting different. You know what I'm saying.
The things that you're doing, the space that you'll put
me in in is a negative space. You and I
both know that, and ain't nobody else we talk to.

(02:14:09):
But just because it's you, it's like.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Well, you know I ain't got it, you know what
I'm going through, or you know this? You should? You should?
You should? I shouldn't. Shit, that's how people do you
till you did and to you, to you in the
dirt man.

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
Access But at the end of the day, I got
access that ship. That shit just need key codes to
get to different levels. Bro, Like you can get to
the door and weigh like a motherfucker here, Yeah, Bro,
I can hear yeah yeah from back here. That no
mean you ain't even finna get a chance to beg

(02:14:48):
or nothing. You ain't finna get a chance to do
that because it ain't gonna lead to that. It's always
on the pass and you gonna feel the love that
you still have access, but it's still through past them.

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
You I'm gonna keep it. You're gonna get some people
that are still gonna try their hand. But people know
who you are when you be who you are.

Speaker 3 (02:15:12):
Yeah, but you think that people have access to you,
but they really don't because you actually don't know even
where you are right now and and what I mean
by that is like you don't know the bank that
everybody else sees.

Speaker 1 (02:15:24):
It is like, oh shit, that's the bank. That's that's bank.

Speaker 3 (02:15:28):
Like I had to say to myself, like when I
slow down the access that people had to me, I
just think, I'm just justing. I'm working, I'm doing this,
I'm doing whatever. But in their mind they looking at
me as like I might be a big deal. I
have no idea that in my mind that to them
that I'm that I'm a big deal. And so these

(02:15:51):
people think that they have access to you, but you
really really don't correct we're saying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
That's what I'm saying you you but but you feel welcomed.
You know you don't have access to me, but you
feel welcome. But you know, bro, I gotta get in
the space to be to have access. I don't even
belongs in that space. Like it's still I'm still gonna
get the resources and the acknowledgement of I'm equal. But bro,

(02:16:23):
what are we talking about? And we ain't talking about
the same shit. That's just all I'm saying, Like it's
gonna disconnect right there at the door. Like if me
and you have a conversation and you see it. I'm
doing I'm doing media work. So if you ain't talking
to me about some shit like that, what are we
talking about? When talking about some shit gotta do it
hiking or or perspectives or shit show or Big.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Facts or.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
The network or anything of that sort. The fuck are
we talking about?

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
Do you know that you're the only outside of anything
that going on with in the Stone Mountain Park? Did
you know that you're the only company, organization, whatever you
call yourself that has been on the on the on
the big screen as you enter Stone Mountain Park.

Speaker 1 (02:17:14):
They need to put me on the side of the
mountainain them cracking out.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
Nobody else. I'm ready, I'm ready to be the one.
Letbody else has done that. And how did that happen?

Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
Because there was an there was an access point, Yeah
for sure, and everybody doesn't deserve to be able to
have that level of access.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
Oh no, you know, no, folks, I'm gonna keep it
real on. They they still been wearing out.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
You know, you can just pull up to the gated
Stone Mountain now going on to say I'm hiking with bank.

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
They let.

Speaker 2 (02:17:45):
Any time on the day anyways, So if you ever
go to Stone Mounts, say you hike with Bank, They're
gonna let your ass in.

Speaker 1 (02:17:51):
They doing it Like I don't hiking Bank. Let's start
talking to me. No folks out there and let you Yeah,
come on, we know about that, and where.

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
Are you from? And what's on the side of the
mountain and where you from and what's happening for those
people right now they got access.

Speaker 1 (02:18:02):
That's dope, man, Like I listen, bro. And and the
thing about this ship, like they be like, man, we
need to make this ship some substride base.

Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
And figure out how to monetize bro. I ain't trying
to monetize peace. Yeah, I ain't trying to monetize happiness.
This ship make me happy seeing these people, bro. He
folks driving from out of town. Shit, I ain't trying
to tell that and nothing like according to the T
shirts and ship. But I be had to got that
stand up here. I be gonna give all her shy

(02:18:31):
had to pay off for her ship.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
Because they's just like I'm just happy to see people happen.
Won't and won't b you know how how good it
feels for you to want to wrestle shit with my
name on it, Like I ain't good at retail and
selling shit because my heart.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Like I like, but you want to wear my ship,
but give all colors in her side. Make sure you
wear this ship everywhere you go. You know what I'm saying.
It's just, it's just, it's just how I am.

Speaker 3 (02:18:59):
I met a dude. He were from Alabama and he
was a head a drone and he was doing some
film and stuff out there and we just started talking
while we was walking. He said, Man, I came all
the way out here from Birmingham, Man just to just
to do this. I was like, really, He's like yeah, man,
He's like, you have no idea. The last time I
went to the hike, I met somebody that met somebody

(02:19:21):
that put me on and it's gonna change my life out. Yeah,
that's how you getting paid. Yeah, you don't got to
do no subscription, subscription base or whatever like that, because
you start eating off of seed that you don't even
know that people don't put in the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
Fact fact, don't compromise your PC for nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
Never ain't I ain't bro. Ain't I ain't tripping bro.
Like listen, man, I tell niggas man it don't take it.
Don't take that much for me, bro. And I know
a lot of niggas be saying that ship and a
lot of niggas them niggas don't mean it. But it
don't take that much for a nigga like me. Bro,

(02:20:06):
I'm happy in my skin. I'm happy. I'm happy, bro Like,
I ain't faking happy. I ain't trying to be happy.
I'm happy, bro Like. I'm straight all this shit. Being
able to sit here in these green chairs and perspective
with bang and smoke blunts and talk shit, have therapysition.
This shit makes me happy. This shit is extra for

(02:20:28):
my life. Bro, I didn't see this for me, that
know what I'm saying. I ain't see doing this. I
ain't no nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:20:34):
I've been talking shit, but I ain't no podcasting. What
the fuck is that? I even know what it was
when I started a podcast. I'm just being real.

Speaker 2 (02:20:42):
So it's like this shit extra. I'm seeing myself in
different lights. I don't even watch like. I just repost
my shit nigga sent me. They be like, Bro, post
this my nigga big college and it's a dope. Well,
sit that nigga always posted my shit and went on
Linked up.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
We doing shit.

Speaker 2 (02:20:58):
Shout out to big college bro. I don't even listen
back to my shit. When I say certain shit, I
just remember I said it, and i'd be like I
said this before. But I don't even listen to that
shit because ain't a lot of my shit gonna be
like contradicting because I'm growing at the same time. Some

(02:21:18):
shit I feel today I ain't gonna feel tomorrow. So
I'm making y'all know that. Don't look at me and
feel as if though I'm on a nigga trying to
be a perfect nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:21:26):
I'm growing in front of your eye.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
This shit is straight. This is a concrete, concrete rolls
that just blossoming right in front of nigga's eyes. I'm
just showing you that's possible to do. Along the way,
it's gonna be shit that you ain't gonna agree with.
I don't expect for these to grieve me. I don't
expect for niggas to even feel certain shit. I want
you to get into comings and say the shit that

(02:21:48):
make me think change my perspective. But as of how
I stand, I'm gonna say how I feel correct me
though I ain't tripping.

Speaker 1 (02:21:58):
I ain't tripping.

Speaker 2 (02:21:59):
Nigs to pull my coat tail, bro, they do it
all the time. I ain't tripping, and I take it in.
I might take it in on some shut the fuck up,
but I take it in and you're gonna see the adjustment,
like he don't want to get my product that I
just helped this ad upload, but I take it. You
feel what I'm saying. I feel like you can't look

(02:22:21):
look look to nobody and try to beat them. You
can just gain from what they're showing you. They are
you know what I'm saying. Like you said you tried
to God Damn cut your wrists, but niggas see bruh.
You know nigga, you feel that you know it wasn't
that bad to do that, you know what I'm saying,

(02:22:42):
So that a nigga gonna take that from this and
be like I was thinking about doing that shit, but
hell no, I might not survive if.

Speaker 3 (02:22:49):
You think about it like this. I try to take
my life on that instance. But here on the other side,
I had stage four cancer where doctors is telling me
out of here, and I didn't try to take my life,
but for something that really don't really matter that much.

(02:23:09):
I tried to take my life.

Speaker 1 (02:23:12):
But you know how she feels.

Speaker 2 (02:23:13):
She still feel like, I don't care who he mad
to that nigga try to kill herself about me.

Speaker 1 (02:23:17):
She wanted to she cocking the women be cocky. She like, Bro,
she forever feel like you a thweed?

Speaker 3 (02:23:25):
You know that, right?

Speaker 2 (02:23:27):
I'm just being one hundred like who wouldn't feel like that?
I'm saying a woman like him, brou I call that
nigga make him these women crazy, bro, like you can't
deal with these cards, as with it and then you chilling.

Speaker 1 (02:23:44):
Bro, you you got a true queen.

Speaker 3 (02:23:46):
Now you're looking like it, looking like that boy up?

Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
Oh no, he is not looking like it. But I'm
just saying, but still up. How am I gonna let me?
Let me say this not to take nothing never from you.
What I'm saying is a miserable person. What do you
think they're gonna run with?

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
You had me, but you had me feeling like that
when I was down.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
But I'm up.

Speaker 1 (02:24:06):
No, I'm a whole different person now, I get it.
But what they gonna when they're gonna run with? Shall?
I don't know? They down?

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
They're my duck you know he held he had two
shyster but these days and please I can call him
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:24:21):
Lying you you over here with.

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
A beautiful queen, living life, running all type of ship.

Speaker 3 (02:24:27):
You over there looking like get it sexy. I'm sorry,
like it is what it is, Like I'm up and
I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (02:24:37):
God did this. Yeah, I'm I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (02:24:40):
I survived for a reason I got, I got amazing kids,
like I'm up. I'm helping my community, like I survived
all of that ship to be able.

Speaker 1 (02:24:54):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:55):
When you look back on certain ship, do you feel
like I would have never been Like if you and
the never went through a phone just camput, you probably
would have never been.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Ship like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:25:04):
You know how niggas be around sir with like, ain't
gonna be shit fuck with this bit, no matter if
I'm catching Cheeta or not.

Speaker 1 (02:25:11):
She just ain't it for me.

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
I would have been a cliwent like it was thank
God that I found it that I went through whatever
it was that I went.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Yeah, save just so I wouldn't be here like correct,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:25:27):
So what you feel like, what kind of energy you'll
give a young nigga, like if he was going through that,
cause you know it's niggas watching it, going through this
same shit, feeling like it's no end with a female
right now, Like, bro, I just can't get ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
What should he do?

Speaker 3 (02:25:43):
First of all, we are up. No disrespect to women,
but that's men. We're we're up, Like nothing is ever
that bad. If you got another twenty four hours, you
can figure it out. All you need is another twenty four.
You got another twenty four and it can change your

(02:26:03):
complete life. I know because I've been through it, because
I've been through a twenty four when I was down bad,
in the next a whole complete life change. So if
you can just get to that next twenty four, you're
gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
How you how you feel about forgiveness, Like true forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (02:26:28):
I forget about saying that. People always say, you know,
not forgive that I don't forget, but I think it
has to be a little bit of forgetting in order
to forgive, Like and it's maybe it's not forgetting, but
it's just like I ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:26:40):
Think about that shit, But it's that forgiveness or that suppressing.

Speaker 3 (02:26:45):
I just think I'm not even thinking about that shit
Like I like, I've moved on, Like I'm so much
bigger than what that situation was. That that's just like,
that's just not even me anymore. Like I heard somebody
to say one time, like I think I was I
used to I used to wear Jurgons, but now you know,
now I'm wearing you know, keels, uh, facial care you know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:08):
You know or whatever. I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:27:11):
I'm not in the world of Jurgons anymore. That was
Jurgons to me.

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
Now now I'm up over here. I don't I don't
think like that. I don't speak that language anymore. I
moved on. I'm a whole different person for sure. Sure
do you ever you want to call?

Speaker 3 (02:27:29):
Like, I don't want to call nobody from my from
from my past. I'm good like just the ship. I'm
out here. They can google me, they can see what
time you.

Speaker 1 (02:27:45):
Got kids though, right, Yeah, I'm saying, so do you
do extra ship for the kids?

Speaker 2 (02:27:49):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:27:50):
That is.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
That is it? You know? They they what's the relationship
like with the kid? Everybody good like it ain't got
nothing to do with it with that situation.

Speaker 3 (02:28:03):
And I wish the best to have a relationship, yeah married, Okay, no, no,
and I and I have to keep saying this, I
was no ship nigga too, uh, you give us okay, Okay, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
I don't want to sit up here and be like
I'm just shooting on somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:28:23):
I was. And that's why I keep that And that's
why I keep going back to the arrogance factor because
you automatically think to yourself like.

Speaker 1 (02:28:32):
This can't have happened to me. I wasn't. I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:28:36):
I wasn't on nothing either.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
Do you feel do you feel as if though also
right now you're just in the space to where you
just like giving the energy you want to received.

Speaker 1 (02:28:47):
So you're just gonna be faithful and do all that
speak that Okay, That's where I'm at. You know them
used to be the niggas will get their heart bro too.

Speaker 2 (02:28:59):
Though soon you try to change, you gotta stay some bullshita,
know what I'm telling you, y'all stay that bullshit bro,
Like I'm keep going home, I think, Yeah, damn, And
this is the most ignorishit a niggan say. But we
didn't get down to the end. They don't be watching
it to the end anyway. So, and then I'll be

(02:29:21):
saying our type of bullshit. I feel like if I
if I was to be the nigga that Chante always
told me to be, she wouldn't respect me.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
Why. I don't know she told you. I just feel
like that's how women be.

Speaker 2 (02:29:37):
Women create a false reality of a nigga that they
not gonna like if you turn into because I wouldn't
be around if I ain't like the nigga that you
is now, I ain't around.

Speaker 1 (02:29:49):
We ain't on you to change it. I like this.
I just I'm just a.

Speaker 2 (02:29:53):
Person that's pushing against reality, trying to see if I
can see how much you love me. You turn to
this person, and when I turned into this person, you
lose all respect for me because the person that you
got in your mind I should be as a person
with no spine.

Speaker 3 (02:30:08):
So the better you is like the cherry on top
of you. It's like, that's cool, Like if I get
the cherry on top of you. But I'm cool with
you where you at.

Speaker 1 (02:30:15):
Today, Bro, that's the nigga that I want. The nigga
that you at today, Cherry on top and my Triven show.

Speaker 2 (02:30:25):
I'm fucking with the nigga that I want, but soon
as I soon as I'm telling you, you turn in
something different.

Speaker 1 (02:30:36):
Like you got women that say like I heard, I heard,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (02:30:41):
Was us over there topic after Shade interview, they was like,
I think court and one of them said like, just
certain niggas just can't try me like that.

Speaker 1 (02:30:53):
M hmm. Right in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (02:30:56):
What does that mean? I'm gonna tell you. But then
they be like, but he boring or this nigga some bullshit. Okay,
now look where you're putting, putting the whole player right.
You say you want niggas to be honest, but you
meet a nigga that you feel like outside of your
caliber or kind of beneath you, because some women put

(02:31:18):
some niggas just beneath them due to their character. So
it's like duck and he could be the man of
your dreams, God sent, but you're looking at the exterior
first because you want to please some people that don't
even matter, because you really don't even give a full
You just don't like how the nigga treat you, and

(02:31:39):
that's what you're supposed to like until it grow it
in something else. But you'll say, this nigga can't try
me like that, but you'll go over here and be
a schloded jetty for good damn buddy. But over here
he gotta take his time instead of going ahead and
getting this nigga some of this inspiration.

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
Mm hmm. And y'all go ahead and do what y'all
need to do. You know what I'm saying. You trying
to like I told you because slater, but it allows
you to be who you is. You ain't me.

Speaker 2 (02:32:13):
You chasing this and you ain't me. That ain't anything
about all. Ain't ivera hit your up one of them
kind of niggas. They love that you overa hit your up. Nigga,
got no remorse like you want this ship like I
want this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
We jaid, we jid we je.

Speaker 2 (02:32:34):
Before you in a minute. Good yeah, sh niggas on
here later on or something. All right, mm hmm, slurt
it baddy, your nigga turns. Nigga go home and got
now be breathing all in your faith. Man. This shit crazy, bro,
This ship like the real I've been scarred. I've been

(02:32:55):
scarred bro for the ship life seen women do and
I think that's my problem. Songs speaking from I gotta
hear from that, like, and it ain't just women like
that vib dealt with.

Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
It's other people. Women, women in my family, just women periods.
Just women. My grandmother shit, she taught me. She told
me all that. Bro. It's just like, but you know,
all that's coming from space.

Speaker 2 (02:33:21):
But no, bro, it's like the way they do things,
it's designed to destroy you.

Speaker 1 (02:33:30):
Hold on, listen what I'm saying when I said, like,
like a nigga do little shit to women.

Speaker 2 (02:33:39):
At the end of the day, if you just a
regular nigga, it's cheating, right not to downplay that, but
women do things that's so deceitful that it destroys you.
You know what I'm saying. It destroys you. It don't
it don't leave you. It leaves you broken like it

(02:34:02):
be deceit like you intentionally did the niggas some pussy
get caught.

Speaker 1 (02:34:06):
Man, I was just trying to get some puss bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:34:10):
You done built the whole empire with a nigga. You
insign it for shit. Y'all locked this this y'all shit
better than hour. And when you find out, it's like, well, hey,
you don't have no remorse. When they're trying to say
fuck you. At least a nigga be like confused, kind

(02:34:32):
of like man, shit, man here, not even confused, like man,
I just fucked up.

Speaker 1 (02:34:36):
The women, they be torn. If your woman ever cheates on,
she would be torn. Is she doing it for a purpose? No,
she would be torn. Because women, to me, when they
if they like in a real.

Speaker 2 (02:34:51):
Relationship, like in a real relationship, they cheating, they emotionally attached.
You know what I'm saying, Because you've been lacking. That
ain't a out that lack now there It's like, I
don't know what I want to do. I'm ready to
risk it.

Speaker 3 (02:35:04):
But do you think they're emotionally attached? But when we
do it, it's because we're emotionally withdrawns.

Speaker 1 (02:35:12):
Be emotionally attached too.

Speaker 2 (02:35:13):
But you come your senses fast like you come your
sence fab especially if you want me gonna tell.

Speaker 1 (02:35:19):
Hey, you know I got a bitch. I fought with you,
my bitch, but I got a bitch. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:35:24):
We do it though?

Speaker 1 (02:35:26):
Why not? Well why do we? Why not? I don't
know why to? Why not? I don't know. I'm not
saying you should, you shouldn't. Why not?

Speaker 2 (02:35:36):
Like this is a conversation that I hope we This
is a topic that I hope we break on perspective
with Banks. I want to I want to get down
to the bottom of this ship. I feel like we've
been bambooze. You gotta think the strongest man had over
thirty sons. Granddaddy had thirty sons. The son hunh exactly,

(02:35:57):
the son had thirty son. The great grand that had
thirty son. For you know it, it's it's like five
hundred living Williams off your brand. That's a whole fucking tribe.
You know what I'm saying, Like you sit around here,

(02:36:18):
get you one two babies out one bitch, and then
what it is, Man, My lasd n ain't gonna be
shitting five ten years.

Speaker 1 (02:36:23):
Like she ain't a gonna have no kid. He'll he gay.
And it's like we ain't gonna have no kids in
the family. Our family name Gonne.

Speaker 3 (02:36:33):
But you know in other cultures, right outside of Western culture,
that you don't lose your father's last name. Even if
you married some somebody marry you, they still gonna keep
their fathers.

Speaker 2 (02:36:45):
Last night, No, well, I'm saying, if you had these
if we all had all these kids, bro, and how
them people do it like you said, in other cultures,
and shit they create this is a big business like
they're they're they're locked into a trade at birth.

Speaker 1 (02:37:05):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (02:37:05):
Now it's cultural. What we got over here and learned
is get you one shit. You know, y'all gonna go
through ship. Your mind ain't gonna be right in certain aspects.
You ain'tn't even be able to focus. That's why most
niggas be successful single and get more successful on a

(02:37:26):
second or third marriage or something like that, you know
what I'm saying. Or or go get successful then get
another woman, I'm saying, because.

Speaker 1 (02:37:33):
It's like a culture.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:37:34):
Let me tell you when I married my wife, and
the one thing she told me was She's like, I'm
just gonna let you know. Our problems are my family's problems.

Speaker 1 (02:37:45):
That's the way it works in the Middle Eastern culture.

Speaker 3 (02:37:49):
Like so if we're going through something, were going through something,
so then by the time that that that something happens,
they're on the phone and they're talking to Big Broad,
they're talking to sister, they talking to Aunt Tie, and
they're talking to everybody. Everybody is invested in the success
or the failure of that relationship. This is some an

(02:38:14):
American eye to ship that happened here, and if we
probably all had that type of mindset and process, the
relationships would be a little bit strong.

Speaker 1 (02:38:24):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (02:38:27):
Now we're gonna get into the book of the week. Man,
it's uh. The Book of the Week is called twelve
Rules for Life.

Speaker 1 (02:38:36):
We need it. But I got it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:38):
I got it right now, and I started sucking with it.
But I was locked in on that rule number eight.
It's say, tell the truth or at least don't lie.

Speaker 3 (02:38:52):
If we all did that, we in a better spot.
Tell the truth or at least lie. Ain't that the
same thing?

Speaker 2 (02:39:01):
Nope, I'm telling you, how do this, bro Tell the
truth or at least either I'm gonna tell the truth.
I ain't gonna tell you nothing, Okay, So you keep quiet.
That ain't no lie. I don't tear you nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:39:16):
I ain't lied to you. Motherfuckers say withhold the information.
That's lying.

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
Lying is saying of some false shit. If I ain't
saying nothing, I ain't saying no. This is They give
you the biggest game, the biggest.

Speaker 1 (02:39:33):
Gem in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
Before they lock you up, they tell you have the
right to remain silent that kills it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:40):
You gotta utilize that in life.

Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:39:43):
I don't say nothing at all, tell the truth. I
don't say nothing. Tell the truth. It's a rule number eight.
Tell the truth or at least don't lie. Basically what
we said, I just have to do what's rule number now,
Oh it's in the we gotta open the book up.

(02:40:03):
But tell the truth of at least don't lie. I
agree with that one hundred percent wholeheartedly. Because it's too hard.

Speaker 1 (02:40:14):
Bro. Lines Bro them lines rough, Bro, like I tried it.
I tried it.

Speaker 2 (02:40:21):
It give me anxiety, you know what I'm saying, because
I'm always thinking that you're done found out that I'm lying.
You're always on edge. I'm always thinking you don't found
out that I'm lying. So it's like, fuck it, let
me gonna suffer the consequence. So I think that's the
best communication in silence. Sometimes that sounds some players ship

(02:40:46):
it is, Bro, The best communication is soild, especially when
you knowing all right, Bro, I'm gonna tell you some
men I always say, because I'm big gonna respect like
as long as woman respect me. Men always say that,
But women are the biggest on that. If the motherfucker
don't respect you, bro. You ain't got your You got
yourself a whole bag of shit. She can love you

(02:41:11):
the devil when she don't respect you, you dead, you dead, bro,
You dead, you trash. It's like, motherfucker got to see
you as something like that's sitting next to God.

Speaker 1 (02:41:24):
Almost.

Speaker 2 (02:41:26):
Woman don't see you like that. She don't see you, bro.
I'm telling she she'll go for anything. She got to
see you right next to God. Then the rest of
her falling place like my kids, my grandkids and my
parents and all that shit.

Speaker 3 (02:41:40):
They gotta be God then you. That's why you say that, man.
My wife she told me, she tell people all the time.
She said, it's my My husband is the god of
the house. She said, there's God and my husband. That's
how it goes.

Speaker 4 (02:41:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:41:57):
If it ain't that, it ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:42:00):
And that's heart. But twenty twenty four, man, you know
putting your head down that with God, damn little pup pup.
Do you think women it's all type of ship down
to the dog. Did you do you think women now
can have that type of mindset perspective. Bank gonna bring
some of the ship back. We're gonna spark. We're gonna

(02:42:21):
spark the heart of a whole to be a wife.
Say that again, perspective bank is gonna spark the heart
of a whole to become a wife.

Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
A good one. Clip that that's a T shirt. That's
the truth because it can happen.

Speaker 2 (02:42:47):
I'm witnessed all type of emergency changes I wasn't. I
ain't the same nigga wore five years ago. In a
lot of ways. I got a lot of similar traits,
but I ain't the same nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:43:00):
Bro. Like I'm too calm. I don't feel aggressive, you

Speaker 2 (02:43:06):
I don't feel the need like I said, I feel
like I got a force feel around me. I don't
feel I feel indestructible, Bro, And I feel like if
I if I destruck, that's just what it was meant
to be.

Speaker 1 (02:43:19):
I ain't tripping. It ain't nothing. Niggas ain't there, bro, Niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:43:25):
That's why niggas are still a lying Niggas is still
afraid to be ridicute. Niggas is still afraid to be
a shamed, still afraid of be embarrassed, still afraid to
be exposed. I would expose me like I'm the most
vulnerable I could ever be in life. I don't give
a fuck. I'll wake up and tell the world or

(02:43:46):
wrong shit, I don't care in this moment. That's pure peace.

Speaker 1 (02:43:55):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:43:56):
Niggas is living with lies, Like I wonder how that
shit feels just looking in the mirror, like, man, I
don't fake it.

Speaker 3 (02:44:03):
Fuck you know, don't you think that women also need
to be held accountable for that a little bit to
be able to be like, look, let me accept you
for whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (02:44:16):
But but the thing about it is a woman gonna
do what she's supposed to do, and that's push the limits.
When you know who you are, she has no choice
but to accept her to walk away because you're unapologetically yourself.
Niggas is altering theirselves. So it's like when you all yourself,

(02:44:44):
she feels like you're trying, like you're trying to get it,
not like you know what I'm saying, Like basically like.

Speaker 1 (02:44:52):
He giving in like I think he's doing good.

Speaker 2 (02:44:54):
So when you turn it to who you really are,
because you after yourself, she's gonna be upset because this
is gonna be like you going back to your old ways.
I thought you were changing when nigga, you won't never change,
you just off yourself for her.

Speaker 3 (02:45:07):
This has always been me.

Speaker 1 (02:45:08):
It's who I am.

Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
So we gotta get dudes to be themselves. We got
everybody be themselves. That's the only way, bro, I'm telling you,
that's the only way.

Speaker 1 (02:45:23):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:45:24):
Niggas can say whatever they want to say because you
still give a personal choice.

Speaker 1 (02:45:30):
M M.

Speaker 2 (02:45:32):
I ain't gonna tell you ship. You canna add me
A million times have I did something and be like, Bro,
I don't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (02:45:38):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:45:40):
I'm gonna see it when I'm lying when I ain't
too though, see, because you gotta keep keeping shift. Like
when I don't want to talk about ire, I don't
want to talk about I don't want talk about nothing
about that type shit because I ain't what assume the
worst and and and and it's crazy to say assume
the worst. I want you to assume the worst and
react to that. So anything you accuse me is act

(02:46:04):
like I did and do the next step, whatever that is,
Go ahead and do it because I can't convince you
or nothing. So if you accuse me or ask me something,
just assuming the worst and do whatever you would do
if it was that because I ain't nothing I could
tell you me trying to plead the case going only

(02:46:26):
let you know online, real shit, you're trying to convince
a nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:46:33):
It's just like you lose on nigga heap. You find
it ray never helping that nigga. Look for that ship,
but you lost your ship. Fire, Your ship o't go.

Speaker 2 (02:46:45):
You walk around try to help a nigga fire your
head of ship. Nah man, what you got coming up? Bro?

Speaker 1 (02:47:00):
A lot of stuff happening at the mountain.

Speaker 3 (02:47:01):
It's the big things that are happening over the next
thirty days that I can't talk about, but just be
on the lookout for what's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:47:07):
In Stone Mountain. Then I got my my bougie ball.
When is it?

Speaker 3 (02:47:19):
What's happening in October of this year. It's an event
that I do and it celebrates the podcast. It actually
goes and it you know, celebrates people in the community
that are doing all the things that they should uh
and it just gives us an excuse to just go
out there and be done.

Speaker 1 (02:47:39):
Okay, what are you doing Atlanta in the mountains in
the mounts, No, no, no, it's gonna be at the
Mary Out Marquee, oh Downtown Leant.

Speaker 2 (02:47:51):
Okay, shit, were pushing up, man, I appreciate you pushing
up on my game.

Speaker 1 (02:47:56):
Brother, I appreciate it. Man. Perspective is the way, Hey,
let me let me ask you something. I always ask
people this before get out of there. Anything in this
conversation give you like an aha moment of like shifted
your perspective in any type of way, like any part
of this conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:48:11):
Absolutely, relationships. It's a relationship stuff that happens.

Speaker 3 (02:48:16):
And then you know, you got people in the background
that always challenge you think about yourself a little bit differently.
You mean, I mean, you know, you got people that
work on your team that are always you know, they're
also so your perspective is a total perspective.

Speaker 1 (02:48:33):
Yeah, so it's what we're talking about now. But you've
got a.

Speaker 3 (02:48:36):
Full circle that's around you, and so a lot of
that off conversations that we have, it also makes you
recalibrate your mind and think a little bit differently.

Speaker 1 (02:48:46):
Okay, that's what we're here to do. Man. Perspective bank
just get niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:48:50):
See, even if you're on total a pre least you
can look at it in a different way and form
a different perspective or a better one. You know what
I'm saying. It can give you an understanding, you know
what I'm saying, Like we are serving a purpose. I
don't know if niggas understand what this ship is, bro,
Like I ain't. I'm trying to have a conversation because
it's so many niggas going through so much shit and

(02:49:13):
go and so and thinking about the same shit that
we're talking about that it'll shock.

Speaker 1 (02:49:18):
You, Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:49:19):
Nigga could need this, like Bro, you know what, Bro,
I would Bro, I would yet that yet I would
jet broh you crazy?

Speaker 1 (02:49:28):
But I needed this. It's some niggas that feel like that, bro, And.

Speaker 3 (02:49:31):
You know I think for you, man, like the different
people that you have coming on the show, like everybody different,
Like you might have somebody in this lane you got
me that's completely different in somebody else's lane.

Speaker 1 (02:49:44):
But we all got it. We all got a perspective exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:49:47):
All our perspectives matter, and I think we all need
to sit down and talk about it because if we don't,
we'll be stuck in our own la la land and
we'll never ever grow.

Speaker 1 (02:49:59):
So you just to continue to keep doing Noah, I
appreciate you for coming through. My brothers love.

Speaker 2 (02:50:06):
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Speaker 1 (02:50:21):
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