Atlanta Ain’t What It Used to Be feat. Scrappy

In this episode of Perspektives with Bank, Big Bank sits down with hip-hop veteran Scrappy for a candid conversation about the evolution of Atlanta’s music scene, the power of branding in nightlife and entertainment, and the realities of navigating relationships in the public eye. Scrappy reflects on personal growth, the distractions that come with fame, and how definitions of loyalty, authenticity, and “snitching” have shifted within hip hop culture and the streets. Together, they unpack the pressures of public perception, staying true to yourself in the industry, and what it really takes to remain grounded while building longevity in music and business. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You were now to
respectives with the big bang. Let's get straight to it.
We're back perspective.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Bank, were locked in, got my dog strapped in the
bild on dig what's had?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
How you feeling, man? And I'm grateful and blessed man
a lot too.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm finna ask you where your energy? But your energy
always be on point? Yeah, I see them from then
to now.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Energy. How you keep your energy like that? God?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know what I'm saying. I'm on taped in with God.
I always been that way. You know, Pops with me
a long time ago. You know, preach your kid, you
know by t now he just was like shooting whatever
you think of that's what it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know what I'm saying. Whatever you put in your heart,
that's what it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you down negative but everything you're gonna stay right there, Yeah,
because I ain't. It's just gonna add on. Basically you're
giving the negativity the energy.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
But here you've been on what you've been had going on?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Man, Man working Man music team moving thing. Just did
a little branding deal I'm gonna come out with. It's
called the Naive Package. You know what I'm saying straight
straight from night life. You know what I'm saying. It
is some water, a cognac, and a tequila, a big cookar,
you know, electric cooker that they have in the club,

(01:17):
and the little paying bake pan.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
All in one thing. All the one thing is the
Naive package. Naive. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
you can't take that ship in the club. No, it's
for your house clubs, for the club. Straight. I'm selling
it to the clubs, all the clubs. I'm just okay,
you come with the section, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know what, I might have have a little NAI
section and you know what I'm saying, the club, strict club,
strict club, you know what I And then after that
just the club because I be doing promotion to promoting
that club and ship, so I'm gonna put them in
there too. So anytime we have like a guest or
a host or something come up in there, just drenching

(01:57):
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know what I'm saying. How you come up with that?
But shit, I already had the lingo, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
But then his brain had come to hit me and
they was like, man, we want to do something which
we want know what we want to do, And I'm like,
what can you do?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
They said everything they can do, and I was just
I just picked every anything that I know I fuck with.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know what I'm saying. People that I know fuck
with that's really making money.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Water makes money, Liquor makes money, Bates make a whole
bunch of money. The hookah definitely make money. I had
talked to a club owner. He said he made seven
MS off of fucking hookah and.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Not hookah is the money. Yeah, I wanna with him
on that. Hey, I'm gonna get right to it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
What you think the biggest shift in the city is
what you mean in the last ten years, just like
the biggest shift in the city period.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
He ain't got there on the hit just looking at
it now.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I mean, for a minute, it was like the young
nigga taking over, you know what I'm saying. And whatever
they said, that was law, you know what I'm saying.
But like lately, it's just been money. Everybody getting money,
you know what I'm saying. You know, I always say
Atlanta is a small city with big money, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's why it all would be big problems. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
When they do be probably be big problems because there's
so many people with money and ain't nobody Finna let
you take that from you. You know what I'm saying, Like
it's crazy, but from where I'm from, you know what
I'm saying. Like you know, I say I'm from Southeast
because I'm from Cleveland Avenue, but then I moved to
the east side.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know what I'm saying, So Southeast. You know what
I'm saying. The Southeast, dude. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So I mean with them two places, like it's been
like a tear down, build up type situation.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Atlanta been building, you know what I'm saying, just building, building, building.
And the club scene is the club scene is different.
It ain't like how well when I was you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Over it, bro man, you're just standing around in the club.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, like when I was in there, like we used
to be in there just you couldn't even stop us
from moving the crowd with way I used to be
in a bounce and you have to like kind of
you know, I was small, a little skinny dude.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I had to kind.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Of wasp myself, hold on, could it just be I'm
talking about the whole shit be waving now that shit
just be like you don't see nobody, no dance everybody like.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
But that came with the Dope by era, though I
think she came with the sections.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, but that's what I'm saying. They curved it
on how the people get down. So when at first
it was the Trump, it was crump. And then when
Jez and Adam came through and they they they made it,
they been and not to be. I ain't crump. We
dope wasn't here, So you know what I'm saying. So
they'll stand up there be looking around with the look

(04:38):
or they don't want to move because if they moved
and people take them unseerious or something like that. And
I used to be looking at that ship like Nigga
were from Atlanta. Nigga like it don't even matter, you
know what I'm saying, Like were from Atlanta. We all
do this ship, man, you know what I'm saying. But
it was the type of movement they had and then
it went. Then BMF came in and then everybody. It's
just it was like that they saw it curve. Yeah,

(05:00):
it went from turning up krunk and fighting and all
that to I wanna do all that well, sweating off
my ship, got damn jewelry. Hey, let me ask you something,
what what era on music you think was the best
era music for love? Man, I'm gonna have to say mine.

(05:23):
I'm gonna have to say mine. I'm gonna have to
say mine. The party by the party era, you know
what I'm saying. When it was when you know what
I'm saying, When you couldn't you couldn't pay, You couldn't
pay to come in the club and chill.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
It wasn't no chill, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Like you either fighting or you you dancing or you
It was like everybody could exist in that ship. You
know what I'm saying, everybody could. Everybody can exist if
you're a dope while you chilling the corner like you
you like, I ain't, I ain't going over there on
the niggast, but I've had to shoot one.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Of the niggas, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
And then you got the fighters. They they came to
just to fight, you know what I'm saying, then you
got to do it. They just you got the girls
like it was everybody was there. And then you you know,
you got the pretty girl like everybody knew where they
supposed to be at, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But then, you know, like I said, it changed. You
know what I'm saying, they break down all the arrows. Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
The first era was I guess Sam saying booty shaking
all that ship, not sall boot shake ship.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Then came the outcast them era. Yeah, then came the
Crump era, right.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, because it went from outcast to goody mob, the
young bloods and then yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
When I say out, I'm saying, like.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Then it went to the cru crump ship with you
John went on because I was in I was still
in school when Ti I came out, I was like
a little pun but it didn't catch an error yet
though Tip had this had this run, you know what
I'm saying, But he didn't catch I think the dope.
But era came after the Crump even though Tip was

(07:03):
already he was already t I.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You know, he still had that, he still had that
outcare flow though. Yeah, it was like he was in
the middle of is he gonna do crump? Is he
gonna do? Like he was talking to trap music.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
But it was like it hadn't caught all the way
up after the crump to me, cause then you had
more people snapping in after him. It was like him, Gucci, Jesus, Jesus, Rocko, Future,
all that came. It came like a you know what
I'm saying, Then I can't even I can't even put
Future in there with them, because Future like got a

(07:37):
whole little thing in his own, but.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
He was a part of that right in it. Right
after that.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
They want him to be right there because talking about everything,
her talking about it.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Cut had little songs, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
When I when I seen the Future doing, I was
like finding somebody came and just just making music.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know what I'm saying. He ain't really like to me,
he wasn't like this where you put him in. He
was just like if you can.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Compare him to anybody be on some drake ship, like
they rapping, they singing, they're doing whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
They making hits, they making bangers, some.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Half of them, most of them are trapped in street
street ship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
But the guy got Damn R and B songs, you know,
so what else? What else was after that? Trap? Here?
Then the futurist they got the trap. Yeah, that would
came out.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Of the money and all the Yeah, and the school
didn't come from rich kids. And what about Snap Snap,
Well Snap was with us. Snap was along with they
wasn't I went, I can't call them crunk, but they
was right there with us.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
That was like sa same Aero, same year, Because I
mean I remember, man, we was in the club, you
know what I mean, would be for a minute like
we was in the club, like you know, we end
up you know doing you know that crump Ship pushing
niggas and ship and you know on the west side.
They turned around like don't be pushing me, bro, Like

(09:00):
I don't give a fuck with you on, nigga, I'll
push the fun out your ass again, be like hold on.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
But like they were right there with us though, Yeah
they crump air Ship. I want a nigga to con him.
I know you you want a nigga like went over
and shot. He wanted crazy, but niggas was just having fun.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, they wore man, like I remember just like actually
being the club, you know, doing the crump ship bowing
niggas because that's what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I remember being in megaplexy. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm talking about me and all my nigga poo baby,
all the niggas man were throwing niggas out the window
and ship man fight this out. And I wasn't even
smoking like that. I wasn't even drinking like that. I
was a little nigga fighting niggas in there.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
She was basically like rockster ship.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah for real, because I'm talking about I literally like
even when I got on on, I literally like, wake up,
you were John, We'll go somewhere a niggas start the
liquor ship. We I ain't never had drunk so much
in my life. Was still a kidu cole got damn
y'all get that Get that hand right though, scrap get
their hand. I'm like what I'm doing with it, man,

(10:11):
drink that ship the bottom shore. I'm like, I'm looking
at my nigga like he want us to drink this
ship was like, but let it go, you know what
I say? And we would turn up from the time
we got up to the next day and start all
over again. I'm talking I actually wake up and it'd
be bitch as there were like you know, like hey,
trying to go, trying to go nigga, and even had

(10:32):
time to take a shout nigga, get on the.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Tour, but go and we crump the whole tour bus
like crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Hey, what you think it was for you to be
able to just have continue to reinvent yourself?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
You know what I'm saying. Over the years, taking chances.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
You know what I'm saying, I had to take chances
that that other people just didn't do, other people didn't see.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
God gave me a vision. I prayed for this, you
know what I'm saying. A long time ago, I'm like, man,
I want to be I don't want to be in
the hood. I've seen older people as they existed in
the hood, how they you know, they levels of hood.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm like, I don't want to be like that, Like
I ain't trying to be twenty one, twenty five, thirty five,
forty five, stealing the hood, looking at the hood nigga,
like like what y'all doing? But like none of that,
you know what I'm saying. So every time I felt
like a shift change and it won, it won my
time no more. I'm like, well shit, I'm gonna find

(11:30):
a way to get that time back. I'm just finna
lock in and see what I need to do. Finna
go pray or whatever, meditate and see what I need
to do. Because it's always you can always change with
the times.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You know what I'm saying. I always do that. You
have any regrets though, m.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, just messing with all the women man like, that
was like my biggest distraction. You know what I'm saying.
I could have been further right now, but it was
always a woman right now, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
What I'm saying. How they stop it?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Because I was just fully invested in the woman and
what she had going on. I want to help her
get that, you know what she going you know what
I'm saying. But my career, I'm thinking, this ship gonna stay,
gonna still be right there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
But it don't cause new niggas come and just keep coming.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm talking about it's to the point now where it
done flooded, Like it's like a whole gate open.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
You know, why the fuck over? What you think the
biggest distraction for you with women in what you mean? Like,
what part makes you distracted that? For JJ?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's THEJ man. You know what I'm saying, that virgiinant.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
But after that, do it just start taking over your
mental life? You started getting timbered with what.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I was, started getting timber, Like now a's a grown man.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't I have to take breaks from that ship.
I'd be like, hey, yeah, nah, you don't want nah,
not right now. I need to get stay focused cause
you know what I'm saying, because it's right now. It's
a focus thing to me. I got all these kids,
so I'm like, I gotta take care of them. I
can't lose focus. I lose focus, then that might be
a wrap. You know what I'm saying, No more little

(13:09):
scrap in his bit scrapped now, ain't no more going backwards.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You know it's straightforward. What's some ship that hit the.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Web up that you that you were counting bard but
you had to stand up on like damn this ship,
he'll count of fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't know, I stand on all my ship. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, you go stand on the bum saying what made
you feel away? You get going to say, you know
how ship like what?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, what it is? My third baby mama?
Like she you know, she sees some many things. She
don't like she get to what one it is the
last one?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know what I'm saying, My baby boy mama. You
know what I'm saying, Like cud yeah, like mouth oft
some ship like be like, what the fuck happened? I mean,
I don't know, man, It's like I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I really always, even back in the day, I always
look at ship.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I see somebody saying some ship, some crazy ship, and
I just be like, let me just pipe down real quick,
cause I know what I be on. You know what
I'm saying, Let me just chip even if it's a
especially if it's a dude saying some ship, like I'd
be ready to I be ready to go, you know
what I'm saying. But I noticed that it don't have
no power until I'm until I'm a part of it.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm a part of and I'm going back and forth
with the motherfucker. I'd be like, oh, could keep going.
Then people be like even if I get back on
the ground and I'd be like on some parts of ship,
like hey man, you know God good.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know what I'm saying. Everybody be like, nah, what's
that ship you were talking about the other day? Like
we want to get back on that? Like all amen,
Like what's up? Like you be like I don't want
to talk about it to day, be like ship, We're
still on that, you know? Yeah? So is it anything
you wish you could have avoidered? Just in the music

(14:55):
in distribute?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I wish I would have took it a lot more
serious than than than what I was taking it, because,
like I mean, even though I ain't gonna lie, I
got some hits that I still make money off of
the day, I still go places and tour and all that,
and they just like it just came out.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm like, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
But at those times, I was like living just like
a rock star, like for real, and I ain't even care.
I was just like, yeah, I got music, I'm gonna
keep making music, ain't. I ain't gonna never go nowhere.
And because of that, it slipped out my hand, you
know what I'm saying, for a little while, and I
was just like dangn and.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Rest in peace. Cut a Cartel.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I remember cut it with telling me he was like,
don't turn your back on what God bless you with,
because then they'll turn.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
This back on you. You know what I'm saying. And
I remember saying, man, fuck that music. Shit. I was
just finna get back in the street like I wore
bro like like I would talk. I know how. I
know how to look at a nigga and be like,
well he flawed.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I know how to say okay, like let me step
back real quick for ourself in that environment.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
In that environment, it's hard to tell. In this environment,
it's hard telling this. I don't know who's doing what?
Why you? But I'm like, bro, like why you come
around me? Now? Can I be like that? Now? Like
who is you? While you around?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Like while you laughing too much? While you what's going on?
Which doing you little finicky? You know what I mean?
You can't tell, but you can kind of tell that
something wrong, you know what I'm saying with buddy, like
came out of nowhere? What do you think about like
the new raps where like you know how like the

(16:32):
do I just seen the dude in the studios high
hells on like they trying to see like who can
be more of a girl than what do you think
about that part of it?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Like man, I'll be blaming Thub for that ship, Like
why you do that? Now?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
They want to do they want to do more than
you you know what, They want to overdo it. They
want to do way more in thought. Like you know
what I'm saying, I look at through that that's a
little homer we're from from Cleveland Avenue ship. You know
what I'm saying. So you know, rest of peace boo.
And I met Thu through my nigga boo. You know
what I'm saying. And you know because he ain't even
like that, you know what I mean. I'm like, why

(17:05):
would you do some shit like he just they be
wanting their attention, you know what I'm saying. And the
attention is the pay more than money. Now, you know
what I'm saying. You see like you were just saying
the stream and ship like that ship pay more than
that's attention. That's somebody paying you some attention. They literally
paying you for your attention. Fat And it's like, you know,
that's the sad ship. That's some sad ass ship because

(17:27):
you know when I was growing up, like, you ain't
want that attention, that attention to get you fucked up,
you know what I'm saying, Like crazy, Like you can
get fucked up with the police, you get fucked up
with women, you get fucked up in the street, just
get you fucked up.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So you can't even do that now. It's like the
dope was doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
He don't lie stream while he's selling dope hold on
real quick, Holy kicking in the door.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
You're like, cut y'all, nigga really doing that ship the
whole movie. But you thinking that's the tension and what
made people doing that.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, that's the attention, Like like money, that can't you
can't hey for the attention that the folks want.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
You know what I'm saying, you can't pay for that attention.
You know what I'm saying, Like the.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Little cock what's his name, kak Conson not like Bro,
I was looking at that sh I'm like, I don't
get it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm like, what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's just sitting right there in front of the camera
and he talking, and then I'm like, bro, I ain't
gonna like have nobody in my show with me. Bro,
it ain't a female. You know what I'm saying. Just
for attention, you know what I'm saying, That's.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
What they be doing. They end up taking showers and
stuff with each other.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
They have to get that that the numbers up and
have somebody talking about them Like, I'm like, bro, I
don't I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Bro, take a show by myself. They got their clothes
off the draw.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
That what I'm saying, Cause like I done went past
a couple of things. I'm like, bro, where I'd be like, Bro,
where are we going with this? Where where we going?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
You know? Where are we going? You know what I say? Huh,
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
They got they got like they got little kids, like
doing little stuff like getting getting themself killed, bro, like
taking taking chlorox things and eating them.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
And like, I'm like, what you thought you were gonna
get from that? What did you really think? Did you
you heard?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I know you wasn't listening to Trump was you know
what I'm saying? Like the Trump like, well you shoot
that ship up in you You know what I'm saying,
Shina Shina light. It's great on both sides. You like
you got ship folk crazy damn man. Your attention is
a new new form of currency. It is like they're
actually paying you to get for your attention, for people's

(19:41):
attention to watch you. And I'm sitting there like, I
you know, my daughter hit me. She she in college,
my oldest, and she's like, Dad, you gotta stream. You
gotta gotta get up on that cause everybody be listening
to you talking and all that. You gotta stream. And
I'm like, I can't see myself putting up all my
cameras and stuff and like somebody looking.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
At me and I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Just trying to do everything in the way that did it,
Yet I can't see myself doing this. Yeah, I mean,
but this is like like I watched this because I'm
like I need to know what's going on. I wanted
to know that, you know what I'm saying. I want
to know what but it had going on, like you know,
you know what I'm saying is just saying if he

(20:23):
was on that streaming and you just talking about current topics,
now you're not doing all like you just talking about it.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think everything is just how you use it or
what you're using for, cause we could be live you
could be live.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Streaming, but they don't want they don't want no cool ship,
Like we're on some cool man.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
How many is that though? Like the world I'm talking about?
Like when how many time you watch Biden when he
was the president? Get on that talk?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
How many time you watch Trump? It's on TV back
in the back? Now, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Gonna watch Trump? You like what buddy talking about, and
he gonna he gonna He's gonna give you what you want.
You know, he gonna be Like I'm like, I don't
care about anybody else. The Democrats, fuck him.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
You know what I'm mean?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like, I ain't never heard the president custy Custom TV
and that man said, fuck them, they're all crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Fuck them they're out there. Damn mind you be like
old one bro. I can man, I ain't gonna start
that trunk because I can respect that. I respect it too.
I reect I know what I'm getting. Yeah, I respect
the truth and the more the life. I respect that. Hey,
so how do you choose the thing that you that
you voice your opinion on? I go live on Instagram still,

(21:38):
you know what I'm saying? Or TikTok You know what
I'm saying. How you choose what you're gonna talk about
and not talk about it be on my heart.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
It just got to be on my heart. I can't
just go in there see something like. I really got
to be on my heart be able to say something like.
I always pray, and I hate to sound like a
saint because I'm not, but I always pray that God
give me the right stuff to say through my anger
and my emotions. You know what I'm saying, because I'm
gonna let it go.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
You ever said ship you want you wish you could
took back? No, I ain't taking ship back. You have
said that they took out of context.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because I don't have
rants about baby mamas and stuff like that. Man, my
baby mamas and ship and my ex wife and all
that shit that I just be like, why did I
do that?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now I be looking, I'm like, wow, would I do this? Ship?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
But it was because at the same time I did
it because at that time that's how I felt. You know,
we're gonna come out. I ain't feeling sugar cold nothing,
And I mean that's how I feel. I mean, like
I tell people I got, I got one one discrepancy
in my life and everybody got to just chill and

(22:46):
look at my bloodline.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Mama, d is my mama, you feel I'm saying, So
give me a pa, you know, give me a pan
like ship might come out. Don't you know what I
made this way? I'm definitely man. I grow I grew
up that way with her, Like I've been around my mama.
Just she do.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
She did some crazy ship in front of me, and
I don't have the witness like I don't have the
witness some of the crazy ship girl, Like just like
damn gul, Like.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
What's some ship? Did she say? You're tripping about? Like
what she called you? Like you tripping? Now?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
She just tell me to get off the ground with
that ship even though she gonna go get on the
ground with that ship.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, let me do it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah. I be like in my life like they fucking
with me, And she'd be like, no, my mother fucking son,
but you a man, you stay up off that ship
me do it? We do that?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I tell that bit up. I'm like, no, I don't
want you to tell nobody up, like.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You know what I'm saying, like damn, like because I
go through something like I won't even like it's like
I found out and I learned that I can't tell
my mama ship. You know what I'm saying, not that,
not if it's negative that happened to me or somebody
saying something did something said, Oh, Kubby like oh yeah,
that's all good man. You know what I'm saying. Talk
to me about this ship. It be cool that thing,

(24:06):
you know, be like, bro my Duke's on shaved room crazy.
She's done doubled up on it. Well, I was like,
I'm looking. I'm like, I just told you about it.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I thought we wasn't gonna gonna chick. She trying to
keep you coming so she can beat you, so.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
She can beat me to the point that I'm talking
about She and like a real rapper though, like she
and it, like, hey, you were fun about this ship?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
What you talking about?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I'm talking I'm like, mom, listen you older fun right now?
She really you know, oldest in your spirit, Cubby, Like this, man,
I'm outside, Man, was you talking about?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Like? How was it? How was it growing up with her?
It was a movie every day? What's your most memorable
moment in the street?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Was I remember was It was living on Cleveland Avenue
and she was pimping in and she had took this
girl from this the pimp, and he came down there.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He was like, alright, we had the little burglar bardo.
He was alright, bring my bitch on out, bring my
whole on out. And she was like, hey, hey player,
you need to go on ahead on that ship. She mind.
You know how that shit is shen tol. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
He was like, yoh, she might have told, but she
told with my money in her pocket, I need that
money back. And she was like, no, that come along
with it, you know what I'm saying. Like she she told,
I ain't no giving no money back. She had your
whole under the lock. Colbor like, nigga, I'm gonna run
my mother fucking cop in that bitch. I bet you
getting my ship. Then she did like this, she caught
the gun back, gave me one, and she caught the

(25:37):
one back and she said that nigga coming here with
that gun, you shoot you just let that motherfucker go
just like that.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And I'm sitting that bit like on your son.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, I'm like like I don't even know how to
shoot this motherfucker, like, I'm twelve years old, nigga, what
I'm doing, nigga know that for going off that ship
going out though she was she was like, hey's I
already caught back that mother, and she said, bring ass him.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
He's still at the door. He was like, bitch, I'm ooh, bitch,
I hate your motherfucking as I hate you. And he
just left.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I thought it was even gonna come in for
real though, Like and then I seen the same hole
tried to, you know, do her like that, and then
she caught up with the whole because the bitch she
had some drugs for my mama and some money that
she stole my mama and she because we had moved
to the East Side by then, but she still had
the same hole and so she got damn tried to

(26:31):
like steal the car one night and the ship God damn,
she don't hit the house and the bricks and ship
fell on. Well, Mama like, oh yeah, you gotta pay
for all that everything. You just let them try to
leave and try to like nah, then they're one of
the ones. I don't you know what I'm saying. Pipe
before my mom don but she called on the avenue man,
and I was in the back seat. Man, I'm like,

(26:52):
what's she finna do with the crow bar? I'm not
talking about my mama. And she went outside shout to
scull with that ship and that ship stuck right in
there and cug got.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
To doing this ship.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I was like, oh shit, shake out, yeah, oh ship,
cub paid a couple of junkies, Like, I don't know
who did that ship got in the car?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Who gone? Cause I don't have some wild moments.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
With Ma and dude, but I don't got to fighting
with niggas with her like me, her and some niggas
like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
And she she ain't stopped. She going full for and
she's to be big girl too. So you know, hey,
ask you do you think love and hip hop is
a gift for a curse? Both It's a gift and
the curse, just like everything else in life. You know
what's the gift, what's the curse?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
The gift is you know, the the attention that I
wanted from rapping, I get way more than that. And
here leave me to way more money, you know what
I'm saying, and put me in certain positions that people
just older people, young people, no matter what kind of
person it is, no matter what country there they watching it.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You know what I'm saying. I don't have to go
and make a whole album, do some crazy ship.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I already did all that. Now I'm on TV and
you know they love that shit. And on top of that,
it's the money, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
the money for me. You know what I'm saying, I
don't even look at it like a sensible thing. Sometimes
I just look at it as shit. That's my chick,
that's my job. I go to work to that ship
like I go to work at anything else.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And the curse is.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Sometimes people will take that little five minutes clip that
they've seen you.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
On and that's your life to them. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Other people can come on that that don't know you
and talk crazy about you and it can be totally
lies in the world will believe it.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
You feel me, So that's the curse. Hey, So what
I'm saying, what happened with you in chaotic y'all? Need
was cool? At for what happened? Like for real? What happened?
You want to get on there? I got it, y'all
need twin. Yeah, we went twin. I'm just saying, y'all
was brothers at one time.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
One brothers, y'all, it was associates. Johnny was rocking, I
was rocking the you know what I'm saying, y'all rocking.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
What happened? I mean, but it was just on some
different type shit, man, you know what I'm saying. I
ain't you know.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
He started doing a little you know, it was some
stuff like he was just acting like a female to me,
and I was just like, I don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
But then we had this little YouTube thing that we
were doing.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
And at the time, I wasn't really I was doing
skits every now and then, but that ain't that wasn't
my whole thing.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Wake up in the morning, do skits. He was watching
the young.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Dudes like, man, I'm trying to we need to get
on that platform, man, you know, like the what you're
just saying, the constant down how they be doing, the
streaming and all.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
He wanted to do all that, but I'm like, bro,
like I got kids, Bro, I got shipped to do.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I can't sit up in the house all day. And
cousin be mad like bro, Like, man, what the fuck? Bro,
I'm getting up he every more I'm doing and doing that.
I'm like, Bro, it's not gonna be a day in
my life while I go run up on people and
put them on camera and try to get them to
do a skit with me, And while I'm not asking
for shit like I'm gonna run my ship. I've been
running my shit, you know what I'm saying, Like to God,

(30:05):
give me something else to do. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not frinna be out there doing I mean, it's good,
it's a good look for you, but it ain't a
good look for me, you know what I'm saying, Like
I gotta not your band, you know what I'm saying,
protect my brain and not not even just that.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's like I'm a man, bro, Like I always feel.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Like men need to do men manly things, you know
what I'm saying, And that's not manly to me for
which part like running up on different women and being
in people business like you know, I just I ain't
with that shit, you know what I'm saying, And like
begging people to do a skit, I'm like, I'm not
asking no motherfucker. For shit, I'm just if I can't
do a skit by myself, then I ain't doing the skit.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
So basically I had a different we had a different,
a different situation.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
And then because I wouldn't move how he wanted to move,
cause he cut damn it cuts me out one day
because I wouldn't get up like like how my girl
would do it.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Though he was acting like if he was my girlfriend
or so. I'm like, bro, I'm not your nigga. You
is not my girlfriend. Even talk to me like that,
but you are? You not his nigga. He not your girlfriend.
You ain't gonna put it other way around like the
girl because I ain't one doing all that ship, you
know what I'm saying. Like I was telling I was
telling him my nigga too.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I was like, bro, like, hey's something wrong with herb
bro like but it like I don't know what but
it thinking, but that ain't me And I ain't gonna
lie like I When I look back at it, I
be like, but it was on or some you know
what I'm saying. He was on some You know what
I'm saying, because I mean he can make money like that.
I'm pretty sure he's still making money like that. But

(31:34):
what I was trying to tell him, I'm still making
for me because that ain't.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
For me, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, man,
did why did y'all make it an issue?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Because he because he tried to take the YouTube that
I help him build and try to when the money
came in, he tried to. He tried to cut the money,
didn't want it. Like as a real man, I feel like, what, okay,
you the scenario he gave me. If Snoop Dogg came
down here right now and said, I'm gonna do I'm
gonna do this with you, scrap I'm gonna do this
with you, and then we build it up that wasn't

(32:04):
built up off of Scrappy. That was built up off
of Snoop. He the one that's famous than being famous,
you know what I'm saying, ain't nobody know because until
I started really really rocking with him, you know what
I'm saying. I even put him on the Love and
Hip Hop joint, you know what I'm saying. The first
one they went out the country to Jamaica. Then I
told him, I said, listen, I'm married. So I can't
really do half the ship that I could do when

(32:26):
I wasn't married. So bring him to Alemma and they
put him on him because he was funny. You know,
all that shit.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Damn so so so he had. So let me ask
you something.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Did he have a right to fear as if though
you said, Brad, we built this shit together. Yeah, and
we built it off my faith. Okay, but you weren't
taking it as serious as as do he feel like
because he was making more of the content than it
was his money. Yeah, but the content that really made
the most money was me and my family.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So you I was looking at that.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I was looking at this shit that was really getting numbers,
and I'm like, that's all me and my family, or
me and my mama, my baby mama or something like
my daughter. You know what I'm saying. I'm looking at it.
I'm like, and he probably don't even race it now,
but I'm just like, bro, like you can't. I seen
what he was doing, and then I seen other people
will hear me from Miami and different places, like, bro,
he got me. He was like my partner, and then

(33:22):
he just I ain't see him no more. And he
was still on that he was still on that. He
didn't look like he was still on that ghettos because
I don't Cayota for a long time, you know what
I'm saying. But he wasn't like that at first, you
know what I'm saying, real hood dude. Like I'm like,
I fuck because it was street. But then he just
switched it up on him, like, bro, who is that nigga?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I understand he you know, he done went to
prayers and and stuff like that. He didn't got shot up.
And I used to ask people. I'm like, why he
gets shot up? It gotta be some you know what
I'm saying, Like niggas ain't you know, niggas ain't shooting
up niggas that.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Ain't took nothing. You took something or you told something
like what's going on? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Then I start hearing other stuff, you know what I'm saying.
So I was just like, I just want to back
away from that, you know other stuff?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, what kind of other stuff. I don't have to
go look that up. You know what I'm saying. Don't
even put better. Let me ask you something.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
One more thing about that though, Yeah, do you feel
like it could have been avoided? Yeah, if he wasn't
so hardcore about that ship. We were thinking, like watching
the ship, I was thinking, like these niggas is trolling,
they playing, Yeah, until I start hearing certain ship y'all
saying there like as it like me see me personally?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I was like, ship, let you meet up somewhere and
do what we gotta do. Culse it won't do that.
So I was just like, man, man, that niggas you
bigg funk over there, man like a giant. That man?
What you mean man? Nobody, nobody ever gave me that
that that type of I get it. Man, nigga ain't

(34:57):
trying to do that. Come on, be real, what you
mean putting up to get beat up on?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It can get down when you get mad. That if
you're mad, you feel the some kind of way. Honey,
your business, you know what I'm saying. What happens after
a nigga, Like we just said, attention and counting is
the biggest. So what are you supposed to do if
somebody else feeling y'all to fight and it go on
line and got his head to it, he's supposed to
end right now.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He can do whatever you gotta do. I'm just saying, like,
so it's just best of art.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
This shit, my whole thing is the only way I
could have respected him and been and kept that shit solid,
and we went to the back and we got it
out the way.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I'll just forget whether he beat my ass or not.
I've been like that was up my nigga, and keep
on pushing.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
You know what I'm saying. I could have I ain't lie.
I would have forgot about the money he ain't give
me an everything. I'd have been like, shit, I got
my love, i got my aggression out about this shit.
I'm done, like you know what I'm saying, Like you
let you, you let me know where you're at. You
done hit me a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I respect it, you know what I'm saying. I just
wanted to respect for real, Like that was my whole
little thing to respect.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
For If you can change one thing about the city
right now, what would it be? Damn? I don't think
I would change the shit. I love it. I love
it whole thing.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Don't give a at I just when I go outside,
I smell that shit, that ship smell good. When I
leave this bitch and I'm tired of it, I be
wanting to come right back. You know what I'm saying.
It ain't nowhere like this on the earth, you know
what I'm saying. Like it's some little you know, young
niggas all over the globe gonna make they city no
matter what, gonna make the ship fucked up. You know,

(36:34):
even be like cud, But what a niggas where they o?
G niggas that they're supposed to be teaching them ship.
You know what I'm saying, Nigga, don't you want to
teach the young nigga shit no more?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Niggas that be wanting to be scared on they be like, well,
I ain't fnna cut your nigga, take you straight up
by what the fuck your contract?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Talking about contract? Old man?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Like what yeah, but you still gotta tell them tell me.
I be like, Bro, that's ship Lane, Bro, that ship Lane.
I don't know how y'all nigga do that ship with
that ship lane, Cause you know what, maybe you should
do it like that so you still be a real
nigga when all when it's a little fast, shit is
over with when it's little ship done and gone, because
the you know, you can look at the past and say,

(37:13):
oh ship, all this ship then passed by. You know
what I'm saying, it's new ship now, but it ain't
really new ship, just recycle type shit.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It was its Instagram now first we had Twitter. Before Twitter,
we had face my Face Facebook.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You know what I'm saying. It's always something. You know what,
if you can change somebody the music industry up with it.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Be.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Man. I would want people to like really think about
what they rapping.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know what I'm saying, that ship, Yeah, put some
thought into your ship, like because even right now we
got a lot of shit going on. Ain't nobody talking
about it. Ain't nobody rapping about it? Like how when
I grew up, it was you heard the news. You
heard everything that was happening in the world on niggas record.
You know what I'm saying, what was happening down the street.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
You was hearing that shit. You was like, damn, I
heard remember of that ship, Like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
So I'm like, damn, like it ain't nobody rapping about
you know what I'm saying better days. Ain't nobody rapping
about the hard time. Niggas talking about they all got chicks.
I'm like, when did y'all get the chick?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Like I just seen you, Yeah, I just seen you.
You you've been rapping, but I did not see you
balling out of control like that. You was just like broke.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
You look like a bomb, you know what I'm saying.
And now you now you've always been You've been selling
drugs and ship your whole time. I'm like the niggas
I know, so drug they weren't looking like how you
were Lookingga, don't even.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Want to rap.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Niggas like, well, I ain't gonna do all that. Go
to a studio, nigga. I'm in this booth right now, Nigga.
I'm popping it out, you know, I'm like cud. So
it's just it's like they be trying to make and
I know the street element is in the rap game,
but it's like, I be wanting to be honest about
that ship.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
You ain't always had it, bro, And you're like gucu
to say, he say, Nigga, I hear they they rap
and they get their money, then they think they the godfather, Bro,
they won't go put hits out on niggas.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And ship like that.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, Bro, that ain't with nigga. Like I said, go
see that man, Go holler that man. It might not
even be like that for real. You hollered that man,
and see what's up y'all. Get y'all little fade in
or whatever that should be over with you. Ain't let
nobody feeling or nothing like that, y'all. Somebody gone, it's
up somebody. Everybody come by themself. Though, everybody come by themself.

(39:19):
I mean, but whether you get beat up or not,
you got to understand like you came for that. Yeah,
you came for that like you knew you were gonna
squad bro like and didn't go your way.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Who you think the most slept on artists from Inland?
It's a girl. It's a girl who is what's a
girl name? Bro? I'm ready, I'm rather hardest ship. I'm
talking about hardest ship I ever seen.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
What.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
She don't like to be She don't like to be
seen and ship, she don't like to be out there
like that. You know, probably you can't adapt to this
fake ash and people can't. I know.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's that's what I That's what I see because she
was on love and hip hop for a second and
she couldn't do the ship.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
She was just like, I can't do that ship. Some
people more be too too, like man, I gotta stand.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
On yeah yeah, and see I stand on my morals.
But it's a catch twenty two with everything because it's entertainment.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And then I look at it and I'd be like,
who taught to the morals? Is that why they didn't
make it in life? You know what I'm saying because
some of that, some of the morals is from old
old shit, like from older people, like people that them die,
ain't they're not here right now like you. Some of
these people will be broke if they were standing on
their morals right now, like all they more some of

(40:31):
the morals is like coul, what you're not gonna sing
because you said somebody you fat man. Look if you
get SA saying that ship, if you can rap, rap
that ship. If you can do comedy, do comedy. But
I mean, don't do the other ship. It's just the
other ship. If you're a man, be a man. If
you're a woman, be a woman. If you switching it up,

(40:54):
switch it up, but stand on it. Don't come back.
You know what, stand on where you at? You know
what I'm saying, do not come back. In Jesus name,
do not come back.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
You think the most overrated artists is in Atlanta? What's
your period? We ain't gonna say, just because I was.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Just like, I don't even really know no underrated art
I think overrated, overrated?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Hm hmmm, I don't even know. I ain't even really
been paying attention to like a whole bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
What not even overrated? It's just what music that you
just can't get with, Like, but I can't listen to
this kind of music. Ain't gotta say a person like
this kind.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Of music just.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
You know, the drill shit be cool. But then I
be like, it throwed me off a little bit. I'm like, so,
y'all talking about some ship. Y'all just did y'all kill
the nigga? Now you're smoking over his grave? You know
what I'm saying. You stumping on the nigga gray and
you're trying to get rich. You're trying to be you know,
you're trying to go on. Well, you ain't gonna be

(42:01):
able to go nowhere. They got family members, they got homeless.
You ain't gonna be able to go nowhere, not for
too long. You're gonna be dead, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just I just I be listening to it.
I'll be like, nah, I can't get with this ship, bro,
like you, it's contradicting. It contradicting, like you know what
I'm saying, Like, how you a real nigga, but you're
talking about this shit like you know what, I can
see if it was years down the line and everybody

(42:22):
got tried and got out and yeah, you can talk
about it now. But just you talking about some shit
they're finna put you in jail, like for real, Like
what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Like shut the fuck up? Like I be. I'm like,
cause it's taking a whole.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Bunch of people off the street that could really be somebody,
you know what I'm saying, when they you know, and
then you. But what I do like is the older
drill rappers they changing it now, you know what I'm saying.
But that young ship, some of that young drill shit.
I'll be like, but take me off this overdoing. Yeah,
y'all overkill with that ship, bro, Yeah, because most people
feel like, like you said earlier, if if an older

(42:58):
drill rapper came out, okay, cool, now the niggas got
an out dread of Heim got an out drilling good
Like I just my whole thing. Now, I'm gonna tell
you who I do like. I do like a little baby.
I like the baby. I like young Kodak. I like
what's a little crazy boy man nba young boy. I

(43:19):
love his ship.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I don't like. I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't pay attention to his personal shiitse ain't got
nothing to do with me. I like the music, you
know what I'm saying. And I mean even that, I'd
be like, damn if he was just leading this and
out like he'll go way super far than where he's
going there. But if you if yeah, one thing all
the art you just name, it's somewhat substance to this ship,
that ain't just only doing the dread ship. Like if

(43:43):
you listen to they really saying how they feel things
they go through, they you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Saying, Like why I like them? You know what I'm saying.
They some type of substance to it.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
And I feel like I feel like the baby with
the first one in a long time. When I looked
at him, I was just like, you remind me of me,
you know what I'm saying. He just he was like, ship,
you come up in there. How you're gonna get shot?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
You know, on my property? Gonna get shot? Ain't gonna
do it, and ain't gonna talking about done it. Yeah,
I ain't gonna ramp about it. And you know so
I like that ship, you know, I like that.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Type of ships, real solid, you know what I'm saying.
That's why I fuck with that ship man for anything.
I'm in the club with Kodak cut cuz on his
ship cut in that bit. Yeah scrap like I don't
even give au. But I like because he's just me
and him. He's not trying to be nothing else. Yeah,
being here, you see that man in the middle street
in Wing. Let that man eat wings in.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
The middle of the street. Ain't hurt nobody, ain't hurt nobody.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Then if you had a gun in the middle street,
then we can talk about it. Like because in the
millle Street Wing, I know a lot of folks that
do ship like that.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
A lot of these people gotta understand that certain niggas
make themselves look crazy just so you can stay away
from them.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Exact. People do that, like people don't understand, like he
could be trolling the.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
World exact and soon the camera go out, be regular,
what's exactly we look at that nigga, like, bro, the
nigga because I be doing that ship exactly, like making
seeing the motherucker com.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
My phone ship broke, just so you be like, all right,
we I'm gonna call you back, hang up the phone, regular,
what's up? I'm regularly regular. I just didn't want to
talk to your way. No, I do that ship too, yeah,
you know, like bro, yeah yeah, yeah, but I don't know. Yeah,
I'm talking. I get on the phone like just like that,

(45:28):
just quiet and motherfuckers just be talking their head.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Okay. I feel like he he ain't a part of
the conversation. I'm gone, I'll be like, all right, you
know whatever, real ship you gotta that.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Motherfuckers just talk. Let him talk, got let him talk.
I be feeling like bro on the real bank, like.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
And I watched I watched the whole bunch of these
you know what I'm saying that you be doing, Like
I feel like this one is like one of the
only real ones that you know this bank what you're
gonna say?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
The bank man asks, you know real quick, nigga like,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I would listen to the thug joint. I listened to
the other boys. I was like, I was like, Yeah,
that's what ship I would have did. I've been like, no, bro,
we gotta get this ship done. You know what I'm saying.
Nigga want to know you know what I'm saying. I
see you out there. You know what I'm saying, moving
and ship like, let her know you know what I'm saying.
So I appreciate this, this podcast. I got to do
your ship definitely, getta with scraps, got to pull up. Yeah,

(46:27):
keep in stack. You gotta keep it a stack because see,
I don't like to be on no Southern ship. Bro,
Like you know what I'm saying. If I ain't no,
I ain't no super thug nigga, ain't no killer. Never
been like that, never been on that ship. Most of
the hood ship I ever did, Street ship I never
did was sell drugs. Nigga, fight rob a nigga.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I ain't never really went out my way trying to
kill no niggas. You know, what I'm saying that ain't
my ship. You can keep your life. Let me get
them pies, you know, like, that's my ship.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I ain't never been like that, you know, So I
just I tried to come out that ship at an
early age too, because, like I said, I'm gonna preach
a kid. And you know, even though I was in
the street with my mama real heavy, my daddy always
had that with me.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
He I'm talking about, he installed that shit all the
way in me to where my conscience messed with me
when I'm doing fucked up shit and I hear God
like or I hear my dad in my head like, boy,
you don't pay for that one. You're gonna have to
stand on it too, you know what I'm saying. That's
why I be like, Bro, ain't no telling, Ain't no telling.
When you do something, nigga just talk about you. Don't

(47:35):
talk about what you're done seen and all that talk
about you.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I did this. I stole that.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I grab that these niggas are going there with you
won't even do nothing or do more than you. They'll
do more than you and then tell on you. You
be like bro, I did the smallest shit in that bitch, bro,
I took a fucking lamp. You took the TV, the car,
the fucking you took everything they got to, took a
fucking lamp, and you put it all on me.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
You feel me? So so do you think, yeah, they
said so what you think about just all this telling ship?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That ship is horrific. I'm talking about to the point.
They don't change the definition of snitching. They didn't change
the whole with the definition in there. Like I've seen
you with with them them them, you know some of
the why dudes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
He was on bit fast.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I think ain't no where in the fuck you can
hear that and not think you finished snitch. You hear
what like if motherfuckers say take a plea, but you
got to say this is like why it heal is
a game?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Well, that's what thug is fighting. That is not a game.
So why would you say it's a game? Do you
feel like that's telling? That's telling, like anything that.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Going against your partners in the case is telling. And
everybody was like, hey, man, I think I think thugs
told him do that. Why the funk will he tell
them to do that. Why that that ain't doing nothing
for him? That you think you want to be in
jail while they making money? Nah, how about we all
do that because we all was in there like everybody

(49:06):
just calling down the pipe, down the chill. Stand on
your ship, you're like dot your ship. If ain't nobody
saying nothing, they ain't got nothing, So we just sit
here'll put you know, pull your cover up and go
to sleep, you know what I'm saying. And we're gonna
survive this shit because they can't keep you in there
long without a guilty or innocent verdict, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Rioting niggas at three years they can't get but they
can't do five years.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
They can't do them there five And now you start again,
now that you going against the law. You keep him
in there without without anything, like we ain't had a
trial or nothing.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
They had a trial.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
But what if the telling I'm just playing them as
what they telling them niggas like this can't go against
them what they said with what they said with Gunner,
he took the effort police. This can't be used to
get to nobody in this case. What about when they
break it down to you like that, and you ask
a hundred times like you sure, I'm just taking for
mine my lip. Bro, you say anything if you're telling

(49:59):
on your p because it put it like that, Okay,
fucking alpha plea without that plea, without them saying alpha.
Do you think he snitched without them saying because he
did say he said wise he his a game And I've.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Seen them do criminal ship for that.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
So my whole thing is that whole little conversation right
there Fox is fucked up, but.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
It ain't supposed. I'm just I'm just telling you how
people to use it against them. Yeah, I'm just telling
you how with what they saying, with niggas saying and
what people. The argument is these folks saying that they
can't use against you and it don't go against them. Yeah.
The only way it got leaked out is somebody recorded it. Yeah,
what's that against them? I'm just asking you. I know
how I feel. I feel.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I feel like it is you know why, because you
still got the jury who who've been at home watching
this ship and they gonna take it like, okay, so
they were doing fucked up ship. So everything they hear
when they're coming into the trial they've been at home
watching this ship. So now they're gonna be like, oh,
and they gonna look at throg how he looked, and
his music and all the little news clippings.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
They gonna take that ship and run with They gonna
take what you said and run with it. Even even
though the judge might say, y'all can't take this, but.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
We're still human. But human we know we heard, yeah, man,
you got ol J.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Simpson man and killed them folk. And the folk the
jeury knew that man killed them folks. And they said,
but he innocent. We're gonna let him go.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Can he black? Come on now?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
So we down here watching the whole We got thug
had the Traveler of the Century in Atlanta. We ain't
never had no ship like that in Atlanta. And cut
winning then said, yeah, I seen why I says a
game and I seen them do criminal ship.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
That's it for me. That was just it for me.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I mean, I was just in Vega bro for the Dreds,
the dres Dreid thing closing down the lad their drell
and gunner will perform me.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
And I ain't don't even lie to y'all. Was in
there you're getting fucked at night. I was in there.
I was like, I was like, man, you know what
I'm saying. I'm a thug my little niggas, so I'm
like ship. I mean, I get the vible sh I
was like, man, nigga ship man, but this ship was hard. Bro.

(52:14):
I was just like, you can't even put the nigga
with the with with the music with the nigga no more.
You just gotta like what you like. Man.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
It is a different that everybody's out there though with
in your opinion, I'm saying niggas ship should have dynamic
changed because everybody's at well most of them is at home.
And I feel like I even feel like GNE should
be like back together again because you know, I don't
really believe Ganna knew what he was doing, you know

(52:42):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Don't.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I just think that he wanted to get the fuck
out of there, you know what I'm saying, and whatever
they were telling him, Like you said, if they just
like the young niggas, they go off a different definition
of snitch.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
He felt like, well, I don't getting nobody locked up,
then I'm good man, I'm just gonna tell, but they got.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
They gotta that.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That's why I keep trying to tell the young niggas.
I'll be having the bait with young niggas on the
phone with my son living.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
And like them.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
We're going back and forth like Okay, y'all can't say
one thing is something then the other thing and something
because we.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Like them exactly just what it is. We gotta call
spade or spade. He didn't.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I don't watch all these little niggas look at niggas
that they like and that's popping right now and be like,
oh no, he he real nigga really, And I'm watching
the nigga do sucker ship. I'm like, cut, there's some
sucker ship.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
But he ain't really. I don't heard nigga but he
ain't really. Yeah, but he ain't really got damn. You
know what I'm saying. You got damn got you got
c hey man, Oh you gotta see, like how the
nigga do.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I'm like, I ain't no way you can spend it.
Ain't no way you can spend it. Don't how you
gonna spend it. But if we're gonna spend it, for one,
we got spending everybody.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's what I'm saying. I just removed myself from the
whole who what is it this day? Because I got
my own opinion exactly so.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
But you're gonna only hear that from your niggas that
like the person you're talking about. They like you got
old nigga doing it too, those strap because they like
the people that you talk.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But this dude here cold
fuck nigga, cold f you know what, But this nigga
here cold.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
For nigga, I like, I wan want to say that
I do. I love twenty one seven get down though
I love solid you know. I look at Coby like, hey, man,
could need to be the mayor of the little young
mayor around this bitch. He be trying to get them
nigga together. He got the nigga together, like man, y'all
nigga wrong with nigga? Man, I just like when you

(54:28):
hear the nigga talk, you be like, that's some real ship.
I would say the same ship. You know what I'm saying,
It's a real ship that nigga just were not him.
But niggas, I feel like like you said it all
depends on if we like you, We're gonna move the
gold post for you. You know what I'm saying, because
I can do the same ship and it's gonna be

(54:49):
why you the come of Earth? Yeah, none of motherfuckers
do some ship. And it's like, you know what I'm saying,
So that what I just took my my I talked
any about it.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I don't, well, you know what I'm saying, real shit,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It don't matter no more because it's like this Vincent,
I can't interview you because because I feel a way
about chaotic for some ship.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You know what I'm saying, which I don't. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I don't really know Kaota, like I met him a
couple of times, but I'm just saying, like this a Vincent, Well,
I can't interview chaotic.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Scrap gonna be, man, I tell your side, your side.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
That's that's what this ship fucked up at because niggas
be trying to push everybody on one side or make
a nigga take they side, and it's always two sides.
It's always too sad. Yeah, Like I don't I don't
really get down like that, bro, Like I wouldn't. I
don't tell nobody like not to mess with nobody. I
got mutual friend that chaotic no. You know what I'm saying,
and he I done been around him. You know what

(55:47):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I don't mean him no harm.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
You know what I'm saying. I stay away from ship
like that. You know what I'm saying, Like, if it
ain't doing me no good, I just stay away from it.
I ain't gotta you know the well in the conversation
of it. I'm just gonna keep myself away from so
I don't have to get in no trouble. I don't
hurt nobody, nobody hurt me, and just keep pushing. You
can be this your life, Nigga, move how you want
to move. Niggas live life and dance in the sky. Nigga,

(56:10):
I'm just not gonna be around you know what I'm saying.
Everybody can be right, everybody be like scrab won't and
we're still cool too.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
But but it is men dudes just don't don't rock.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Don't rock, but people but they it's like in this
day and time, motherfucker want you to pick sides.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You know what I'm saying. And we Donna did that
shit and hindered ourselves. People people do that and hinder
theirself for other people. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You can't like like I was just having a conversation
with my ex wife, you know what I'm saying last
night while we were feeling I was just telling them, like,
you know what I'm saying. I know, like a couple
of y'all fucked with a certain dude that don't fuck
with me, you know what I'm saying. But it's cool
because y'all got a different relationship with buddy, you know
what I'm saying. Not Kayota, but it's another dude. I'm like,

(56:56):
you know, like it's Atlanta is real small, you know
what I'm saying. So we gonna know we all know
each other, you know what I'm saying, or we're gonna
cross paths at some point. So I just feel like
that's young ship, that's high school ship that you're gonna
fuck with him, my own fun with him.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
You who you hang with this ship? Like some girls? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Some girls ship Like I ain't with that. Sh Go ahead, hey,
you hang your fun, but when you come back, you.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Tell me the same ship. I'm telling you i'ma be like, yeah,
I know, be like that. Man. Damn, why you letting
me come on in and say this on your podcast?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Bro, This is a fucking part telling the nigga walking
to be in a haybird on saying thathing about my friend.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Hey, niggas say whatever you're gonna say. You said it.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
If we're gonna spend it for one, we got spending
for everybody, nigga, we spending niggah scrap.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I appreciate you pulling up, man, Appreciate your having drops
and game to the people, man, because you've been in
the game a long time, thriving bro, so you got
drossing game on your niggas trying to get in.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Man. Listen, man, all I can say is, man, stay
on the top of your queue. Man. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Whoever you pray to, which I hope is God, you
know what I'm saying, stay solid in that, stay grounded,
because like this whole thing tricky, this shit wet.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
You know what I'm saying, Niggas getting drowned every day
through this shit.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
You know what I'm saying, Niggas getting killed every day
and this shit because they not thinking you know what
I'm saying, nigga, don't even be thinking no more. It's
like everybody in fast motion to die, you know what
I'm saying, And they not even thinking about that part.
They just thinking that this shit is grand theft auto
and that you can come back. You can come back,
you can get spun back into the life. And it

(58:32):
don't work like that, nigga. Once you're gone, you gone,
your kids crying, your mama crying, your daddy crying, everybody crying,
and everything that you had gave them, all the money
that you were making to take care of your people.
That shit is gonna fade away soon because you're not
here to promote your shit.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
You know what I'm saying. Shit's gonna fade away.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
And no matter how many fish plates chicken plates that
they make, nigga, you either gonna die or you're gonna
be in jail for life and die, you know what
I'm saying. So just calm down, focus on something that
you want to do, that you like to do, get paid,
and stay out the way.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
That's all I can say. What you say, what you said?
What it is new podcast? Oh yeah, keep it a
stack with scrap, scrap man. Y'all y'all look out for
that man. Look out for me on that with him. Man,
I appreciate you putting us. Appreciate you hav always doing
the honorble brother, man, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Put I was just telling Bank man, you know, like
this is big. I remember when Bank was. You know
what I'm saying, You're different, totally different. And I'm talking
about before trying you know, like wow, I'm just looking
at this. I'm like, wow, Man, they don't even know.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
We're trying to figure this ship out that I say,
we can't never say what it won't do because I
never thought i'd be doing this ship. And when you
when you lost weight, Bro, I ain't even tell you
a lot of that ship got me back in there.
I seen you, Bro, that she got me back in there.
I'm looking I'm like bigger than me.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Come on hike with me one time where you're going.
You know, we do it like once a moning next
time when when when we get the date I'm sending
to you, send it to me because I you know
what I used to do. I used to stay behind
stone Mountain. I used to hike that bitch up and
down because well I used to get scared going down.
The last couple of times, I just get on that thing,
go back down. We go all different spots though for

(01:00:17):
a different all different spots we just walked the like
now just like in the woods, trill like hiking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, like all different hiking parts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
SHIPU we be out there, two three hundred motherfuckers ship
even with that one of them three hundred somebody will
killing somebody lived man's murderer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
You know it ain't know you know what I'm saying.
You think it ain't, but that motherfucker think it is.
Motherfucker been up slipping the nigga. We show somebody love
and praying ship before man folk.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You don't think the devil sitting in churt, I don't
want to kill that nigga, the devil sitting in church life.
I know you changed all I'm saying there. It's three
hundred motherfuckers out there. You think you think the robbers
ain't not that you think the killers ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
They're coming out there cause they don't want to be
that no more. They don't want to be that no more.
Then while they coming because they know our energy, bro,
they know our energy. I gotta come out there and see.
Don't tell you what. It's a community telling shock.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
She don't come no more but the ankle. Know, you
just got to get some some gripper shoes, some shooting
your shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
She just comes. Yeah, oh wow, yeah, you know. Oh yeah.
That's what it's about. Pray and everything you pray before.
Straight down. It's about you're gonna like this ship maybe
out there doing them purpose and ship. When you love

(01:01:45):
that ship. I can't do noing. I get down, boy,
I get down. Their workout. I got to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I seen you train fans, Yeah, because I already had that.
My daddy is used to be a powerlifter. You know
what I'm saying. So you to have me in there
with them, I have to be in there with them
five ten pound weights. Yeah, you know, begging them to
come in there, but let me come in out with you.
He was like, all right, so keep it the stablish scrap,
keep it the stablish scrap. Hiking with yeah, hiking with Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I got music on the way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You know what I'm saying. Tcee, you know what I'm saying.
My whole committed family. We dropping in to go do
a video now Cleveland Avenue, going to the block. Yeah,
hey man, y'all make y'all tap in my dollar strepping man.
Go to the Big Fat Network. Likes to strive coming.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Appreciate you, Bro, appreciate you. Keep it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
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