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October 6, 2025 63 mins

In this episode of Perspektives, Big Bank sits down with special guest Yung LA for a powerful and introspective conversation about personal growth, resilience, and the importance of focus and discipline. Yung LA opens up about his journey through adversity, sharing how past experiences shaped his mindset and creative process. They explore the value of community support, the lessons learned from hardship, and the discipline required to stay motivated in the pursuit of success. The discussion underscores that success is not a destination but an ongoing journey—built on perseverance, purpose, and the choices made along the way. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You are now in June to perspect us with big bang.
Let's get straight to it.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Sometime the man in the mirror can be your worst enemy.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Welcome to Perspective Bank Today, I got a special special
special guests. You know what I'm saying, Young Leland out
in the building on the way the lake. Man, my boy,
how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
My brother line, Let me just clap it off. Let
me just take my time. I feel great, Bank, You
feel great. I feel great right now.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Ain't good to see you out here. Man, still still
on your shick grind, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, re rocking and lingo, just overly trying to just
do what I know I'm supposed to be doing, pressing
it like having fun with it too. Yeah, that's the
big part.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
So so I you know, I talked to you, you know,
we talk online and through text, like how you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
But how you doing? For real?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm doing better. I'm doing better than I was, you
know what I mean, just mentally, just everything for real,
I ain't it's coming together for me, you know, just
staying patient. You know, sometime we try to like we
do it on our time, like Russian, Like you know,
every time we strike, we think we're gonna hit, but
we're not gonna hit every time we strike, you know

(01:20):
what I'm saying. Then I have to understand that part.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
And then it's like meltic, you know, and keep it
all the way taed with you, Like it's like you
how many you keep getting all these shots?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I just gotta break it, break it down to you.
Get out of jail, you go crazy, go back in
like sometimes we in l a lock back up, go
crazy again. What you think it is to make it like?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well you just because the internet see you being but
we never see you break in half? Like what you
think it is? To God gotta favor over you? What
you think it is.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I definitely know it's Grandma prayers. I definitely know it's
overly mom prayers. I don't I definitely know it's overly
my prayers. And just just be leaven just knowing who
I am and doing what I'm doing. I respect it.
You know. When I get spank, I just you know
what I'm saying, I take that lick, you know, but
I come back cause I know I'm always knowing it
ain't over it, you know, what I'm saying. At times
I thought it was over with. It wasn't never over with.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, would you blame yourself for the position you
be putting yourself in? Do you blame yourself?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
For sure?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
For sure?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
A lot of stuff. I just have to straighten up
with me, you know what I'm saying. And that's why
I said this time is so special, cause it's like
we celebrating. I feel like I finally closed that chapter.
You know what I'm saying. Just the change, the just
feel like nothing like I didn't just shed it all that,
you know, and it took a minute. You know, I
was going through that block about almost seven eight you
know what I'm saying. Just that's a long time, almost

(02:43):
a decade, right, you know what I'm saying. So right now,
in this moment, while I'm up here with you, it's like,
I don't I feel like I done went through all
my obstacles in battles and I'm in my winning season.
So it ain't nothing but some smiling in Dallon. You
know what I'm saying. I'm smiling in Dallan right now
because you know what I'm saying. I feel like, you
know what I mean I have overcame and closed that
chapter and that feel good that I ain't looking left

(03:05):
and looking right, you know what I'm saying back? You
know what sathing? Looking forward?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
And what's you do to not because we don't seen
you focused, won't seen you unfe focus.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, ain't seen every version of the kid, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
So what's that you're doing different now to keep to
keep yourself focused on the mission?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I kind of just done kind of like went back
to my first love and it's like hooping, so like
my old like how you be hitting the mountain on
Sundays black, like when it ain't nothing to do. Instead
of trying to create something to do, find something to do,
I'm just taking my spare time on my LA fitness.
You know That's where it started at for me, just
like getting back to the fundamentals and the basis you
feel me so shit, I ain't got no downtime. I

(03:45):
ain't got it because it's like, hey, I ain't gotta
hang out or be around, you know what I'm saying,
Because then I got something else to feel that void.
So you know what I mean, just getting in the gym,
being athletic, getting back to my athletic self. You know
what I'm saying, getting back to stuff I love to do.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, for being in the mix. Yeah, that's the creative mix.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Man, what creative blender?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I't even me see. Like it's like they come back,
you head, Like it was like a.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Year year and a half ago. How long it been since?
Like is when they went viral? Song went viral again?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It was really my birthday, like right in March, like
a couple of days before March, I think it would be.
And I was, Yeah, I was in Streetport, Louisiana when
everything he had kind of kicked off, you know what
I'm saying. And I was just down there in street Port,
and man, I was trying to figure out what I
was going to do for my birthday this year. I'm like, yo,
I can't even go up in Pope. I want too

(04:39):
right now, you know what I'm saying. This is my
life money, so I can't really go do nothing too special.
You feel me? And bro, Like I guess on the
twenty third or the twenty fourth, I was smva. I
was like, yo, you know what I'm saying, trying to
just figure it out even the beginning of this year,
and that Boss Talk interview when I went to Dallas.
You know what I'm saying, doing it with whatever, working

(05:00):
with what I got. If it's just gas money, I'm
using this gas money to get me right while I
need to be. You know what I'm saying. If it's
just this couple hundred, I'm gonna take this a couple
of hundred that's gonna cover the room, and I'm gone
cause I know when I get there, I know what
the I just know me and what opportunities I'm gonna
bring myself and my belief. So I'm like the type
of guy, just get me to the ground. I came
with five hundred, I'm gonna leave with five thousand, you

(05:20):
feel me? And that was that attitude, just get me there.
And I was still in that mode like January, February
and March, just getting there, but guess what, getting there,
showing up and overly doing what I gotta do. So
it's like the Boss Talk interview here. Bro. By my birthday,
VA was calling me just like just the date is
just start falling. It was almost like so real, I'm

(05:41):
just being for real Bank. It was like I was
just slightly up in street port Louisiana, trying to figure
out you know what I'm saying, Like, you know this
should come around the like damn, I can't. Really, I'm
working hard, but that ain't turned into no revenue. It
ain't turned into no currency. But the workload is everything.
I ain't stunning the money. I ain't married to material bank,

(06:04):
I ain't like all that, Like I you know what
I'm saying. You know how it used to be like
when that was everything, it was like naw, that ain't
It's like I'm back in my real artistry bag. It's
all about the passion. So it's like with that whole approach,
that's how I was able to, you know what I mean,
really just get it going. And them dates really saved
my life at that time. Just keeping it real not
saved my life, but you know it feels like that

(06:25):
five thousand D that ain't nothing life saving still though
that was like yeah it was yeah, from from nothing.
So it's like, bro, when that happened, we just been
pushing and pushing. But what I'm saying to go back
to it was all work and not caring about how
I did it, how pretty it looked. I don't care
how ugly.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
This look.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I don't care about none of that. I don't care
if it looked geeked up. I don't care if it
look whatever. It looked like whatever. You gotta take the
look to get.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
What I'm going with.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm out here. Yeah yeah, and that kind of and
that's what got me really in this position for real,
for real.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like it went viral that you he was emotion in
the interview. What you think made you get emotional in
the interview?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I think it was just like be th close
to me. And then it's like you know when you
ask yourself, like when you don't have these same questions
in life and you don't already like these are sense,
these are sensitive moments for you. It was like being
on the comeback. I was kind of like it was
tears of joy because I was coming back. And then
it was like me reflecting, I'm like, yo, damn, how

(07:26):
do you like? That wasn't right? Like I dropped that ball,
Like I shouldn't have did that, you know what I'm saying.
Just like I think it was a mix of emotions,
you know what I'm saying, And it was pure emotion.
It wasn't on stage. It was just like Yo, it
was compassion and just really showing my real time emotion
for the people I love and the stuff that I

(07:46):
care about. You know what I'm saying that I spoke
on that I hadn't did it right by you know
what I'm saying in all aspect, you feel me. So
when you get a chance to do it again, you
know what I'm saying, or just even have a shot
at trying to do it again, it's like it's a
great feeling.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
What's your biggest struggle like off camera? You know, cause
we all got our struggles.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, what's your.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Biggest struggle off camera? Like mentally, physically, spiritually, whatever, Like,
what's your biggest struggle?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Like, damn, I need to get this together because we
know before people know.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
What we're sure. Man. I think for me was just
like just letting go of like places like I felt
like I had like vice, places that I humed, you
know what I'm saying that. So it's almost like reverting
like my biggest problem, Like soon as I get like

(08:39):
some momentum and do good, I revert back to the
old that don't mean nothing else. I really never seen nothing, no,
I never seen nothing, no progress come out of these
and you know what I'm saying. From me hanging here,
you know what I'm saying, or being here or having
myself intertwined with this or intertwined with that, I feel
like I take two steps forward bank and jump back
to him, you know what I'm saying. And it's just reverting,

(09:03):
like going make you.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Revert, you know, I guess just like reality.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I want to say, I say for reality, and not
only that, just not being a produgal where you grow
up or not like trying to be real. But it's
like always wanted to be able to know you can
go back. The feeling of knowing you can go back,
you know what I'm saying to like after you make
it to like whatever where you grew up, at where

(09:30):
you made your claiming thing at. You know what I'm
saying around the way, just the feeling of like, yo,
why I made it this for I can still go back.
That's always a good feeling. But it's any artist. You
know what I'm saying, go back and help not go
back and be a part of.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
This ship now for sure, for show you something different
now when something differ you something different. Guys, just know
that because you go there and get caught up in
that ship. Then your mind get like you your body,
don't just go back to your melting everything.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Take ten steps out.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You're right, bro, No cap man, I think like that.
That's what I think. That was my biggest I think
that's my biggest thing. So like I command myself right now.
And just like I been really sticking to my guns
for like since last November, because we started working like
last November. So like just going on to you just
like all working O play. You know what I'm saying, Like, YO,

(10:18):
cut it off, knock it off. You know what I'm saying.
You got shit to do, and you overly still got
the opportunity the relationships, you know what I'm saying. Because
one thing about it, like when you, like I say
poor love and shit, you be genuine too, even through
your struggles. They people know a genuine person. You feel me.
So a lot of my supporters and my supporting cast
and people that I look up to kind of stamp me.

(10:39):
They never turned their back, you know what I'm saying.
Or they never like dis attach theyself from me. And
that was big, you know what I'm saying. Like you know,
like the Xethovens, the VA bookings, you know, the swifts,
the carries, you know what I'm saying, And that's that's
like a that's a great tool to I got that,

(11:00):
you know what I mean. I kept it genuine all
the way around the board. So now when I'm circling around,
it's not hard for me to ask for help because
everybody needs help. I'm the type of nigga that's gonna say, hey,
help me, I need some help.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Facts.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't tripping by no assistance,
Like can we get together, line up and put it together?
Because I can't do it. It ain't just me and I
can't do it all myself. And we know as we
level up and level up and level up, trying to
do this shit all yourself, it's just hard and hard
and create more. It's just more strain. I feel like,
you know what I mean. So what I'm saying is like,
on this next resurgence, I kept my relationships good and

(11:33):
I overly got a team of people who believe in
what I'm doing, and it's almost like I'm moving like
I got a label, you know what I'm saying. People though,
and they great people, you know what I'm saying, People
that I've known for like probably over a dime, you
know what I'm saying. And that's special when you can
go back to that. You can burn your bridge down.
Some people fuck the bridge up and you can't even

(11:55):
get back in the arena or the atmosphere that you know, thought.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
You'd have been all over that metro ship, like all
over it.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
It was hard, No, it was hard, But I'm just
saying I would have thought, like you've been all over it?
Like sure, what what?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I heard that y'all in studios something like like
would you.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
On your LA ship?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah? Like nah, for show for show, see see what
it was? Is like when I'm like, like when everything
happened through like through the summer, we've been running around.
We haven't been able to stop three shows in one night.
Our record is four on one night. Our record, my
lifetime record is four shows and one night. Hey shows.

(12:37):
Me and Va almost touched the record on this current
run through the summer with three shows in one night.
And we looked at each other, you know what I'm saying,
cause that's how we do like and we say, like
the spirit of Clay, you know what I'm saying, cause
that's how I men. We all came from that. Yeah, yeah,
long live Clay and that's our little thing because we
are because I already know he with me because he
wanted them guys who just overly like you bank seeing
it in me and always told me to write stuff

(12:57):
and was just you know, fun of me. So it's like, yo,
the spirit of Clay Boom. But we almost did four
that was closed, like three shows in one night, is
you know what I mean. So basically we was doing
so many shows that they was already working on the album.
I came in on the ass in like they was calling,
like they are hit. I ain't in the city. Oh
he in Miami, oh he oh, you know what I'm saying.

(13:18):
So it was like that's what it was. So I
think me not being there from the start of the album, yeah,
kind of decreased like how much you've seen me? So
I came in on the ass in and hey, I
got in. You know, I was able to get this
Jerry Curry going with wam On with with with wayam
On there. That was like a great collaboration for me

(13:41):
just to see his work ethic, Like I like, I
just I like he take the studio like how serious
he take it when he and up? He take it
serious like me. It was organic. And then I ended
up on another record two with chains on them. And
that's one of the guys I always like want to
rap with. He's a real rapper, Like I could sell
myself like yeah, Change, like I consider myself an m C.

(14:04):
And so I had did a record on a Metro beat.
I was like, damn, who you on? This bitch is like,
I'm like Change, And then a couple of days later
I ended up being on a record with him just
by being in the atmosphere the Metro album. You know
what I'm saying. Versus getting passed around? Who is getting
passed around? Now? I got one with Change. So it's like.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
You think you let j Money outwork you and y'all
come back overly.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, I'm the one.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I mean, like I'm just asking a question. God, you
know you're right here with JD.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
He did he Yeah, it's like Layers said, I know
the niggas out there on the back on the road
getting that bad.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I mean because it's like it makes you bigger
with y'all, not for real, it makes you bigger when
you not always around, like I ain't trying to always
be around. I ain't see niggas gott to chase everything.
One thing about Leland. I don't got to chase everything.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I chase your moments.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, like I can create the moment future.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Richy Summer and that ship like JD. I feel like that.
That's like your your era. That's that's some ship like
you was a part of creating. Niggas can't take that
from you like you a part of creating it.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Not for sure, for sure? So long for who getting
mad at who? Say? Who started?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah? Yeah they niggas know. One of them on Metro
told you you cannot do future Rischty Summer with that
future Leland period.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
That that that that.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That why you think Futuristic Summer didn't drop into what
he got his hands on? Who tall frog Lingo tell
that boy, you're gonna hit them back. You ain't here
with the fraud now for real. I'm just saying and
everything I did, I did it on the last two days.
And I just currently dropped four projects with Nought and
be I'm currently finna drop again on Twins. I'm on

(15:48):
these boys top like I'm really working like bank. You
know how I get when I'm like just in that
you know that bag. So it feels good to be
able to still hit the gym and hit it with
that same you know what I mean intensity and be
able to re rock the soiund be able to just
rebrand this shit. You know what I'm saying. They calling
me from now like just the fifth time I of
reinvented this shit.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Come on, I'll put it hard for that. You and
ad collaborro.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I see person post not how Go Left though you
showed us major love how It Go Left though it
really ain't. I mean some things is like I feel
like this. I feel like the record right there and
what back on that did wasn't enough.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, But you're working on tape.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, we was in the midst of you know what
I'm saying, trying to put a tape together. You know
what I'm saying, putting together like something with trench work,
you know. But in the missions, like I still got
three four five projects, I've been overly working. I already
got my setup. So me and Ali joining this more
for me, that was like big closure. It was alignment
for the city. It was showing like you can't move like,

(16:52):
you can't move forward without what looking in the mirror
and facing and closing chapters facts, And that's what that
was for me and Ellien. The record did overly good,
like the city fucked it with it. Domn mean, we
gotta be a group, damn mean, we gotta wrapped together
every day. We did enough? Right there? What more y'all want?
Y'all know the history?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Why did ain't you taking them full TV out this ship? Though?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Whoop do well?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
How you do this?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Man? Woop do?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's why y'all fell out? Man? And I just found
that out on big facts.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Woop do do you had to get them? Woo no
coming man, woo do?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I can dig it?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like, talk to you, talk to me about that though,
about what it's nothing to eat? I mean, it's really
it's nothing to.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Talk about what you saw? What it was? Yeah, like
y'all y'all said, this was this?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
This was that? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Whatever that is? Whoever? You know what I mean? Like
that's what you know? Yeah, y'all just seeing y'all, Yeah,
y'all just seeing what y'all seeing, y'all not seeing everything.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
What I'm saying, we're asking you what we saw? What
do we see?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Me? Me overly leaving? Be overly leaving from somewhere.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I don't want to be okay, and I gotta get
I gotta get out here with something.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Try man, I won't get out with something.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Man, I'm overly leaving. I'm gone what Yeah, you're right,
you know you know what? And I'm being you know
I'm being genuine that Hey, let me ask youself.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You know, always one hund when you first get out
of jail, no matter if the world against you, gonna
tell you got him their time by what you're doing,
they drop that ship and say the.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Frog in your DM tall fraud. Let go what we're doing?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, Like, bro, you got so many people pulling for
you because they know that you got it. What is
it that knocks you all track?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Then?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
What we're trying to get to? Like what knocks you
all track when you get knocked off tracked? I say,
you're gonna get knocked off track this time? What usually
takes you off track?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I just feel like, oh, like it's going back to
exactly what I said, like reverting, like you would be
all the way up here and then you will just
be you would go you're in some dumb shit. You
will be going through your phone or just anything and
you see something like you would start like going back
and dealing with people that you know don't mean you
know kind of good. They already showed you they don't

(19:22):
mean you no good. You will still go place yourself
around that shit. You know what I'm saying. Whether it's
a woman, you know what I'm saying, You start with
the women. You know she ain't keep it real. You
know she did d d da da da da da da.
You know what I'm saying. And having a spot to
what you feel obligated or you feel like this was
something you supposed to do. You know what I'm saying.
You let your your feelings and your emotions, you know

(19:43):
what I'm saying, trick you back into a spot you
feel me Wow, for sure?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
So what you're doing I already asked them asking again
what you're doing to make sure that don't happen again.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Man, I'm just overly like every day, I'm just committing
myself to my schedule and I'm making sure my schedules
stay full on purpose, so I ain't got time to bullshit.
You know what I'm saying he.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do the same shit, but they say that's he's a
form of like trying to cover the scars and cover
the pain. So what are nigga doing to work internally?
Basically what I'm saying, because it's like a lot of
shit we can, we can do some shit to stay visible,
we still gotta lay down and like, oh, we still gotta.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
When we do get a little time to think.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know what I'm saying, that shit behind the nigga, Like,
what's the ship you're doing to work on?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, you know, everything takes time and you're getting better
and you healing or whatever you're doing. It's not just
like an over nine thing, So you know what I'm saying.
It's just like, like I say, overly doing what I know
I supposed to be doing. You know, when you're doing
this ship that you don't supposed to be doing, you
know what I'm saying. And I'm just like, I'm doing
what I know I supposed to be doing. I know,
you know what I'm saying. And it's been it's working,

(20:47):
got me in a better space, you know what I'm saying.
At first, it was like, Yo, I'm doing everything I
supposed to be doing then you know what I'm saying.
You know, ain't doing nothing for me or ain't going
as far as I think of a go, and then
I relax on my work. You know what I'm saying,
Get back in that. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I mean? You think this time is like not,

(21:07):
it's not even this time. Like every time I go
at it, it's like I'm always seeing the best and
starting with great energy. But like I say, if shit
ain't going my way or really pushing, how how I
envision it? Like if you're a visionary, you got a vision,
your vision on fold how you want to see it?
Then it's like yo, man, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Do you think you think like sometimes an artists shouldn't
be like in a collaborative atmosphere like let me just
do me first. I can't really like like how you
be trying to do takes with this person, tap with
that person, elaborate. You think it's good for artists to
just be like let me let me figure me all
the way out first, figured my shit out first, before
I be trying to do some ship with another.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Nigga Like yeah, yeah, nah it is.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's like it's like some creators creep better, create better
in the space, you know what I'm saying, by theyself,
So yeah, I feel like that. That's like a if
you don't work on you, or you ain't putting yourself
in your bag, then you collab How you gonna collabor
with any You know what I'm saying. It ain't no collaboration.
So it's like sometimes you gotta just or drop by yourself,

(22:15):
you know what I'm saying, and why you're working on
you and probably not spread yourself so thin. And that's
what I really like on this run, I really been
doing that, like let's just go up like you feel me.
You got what it take? Do you know what I'm saying?
Or you ain't gotta go a line or be in
a mix or stand next to you know what I'm
saying this person or that person, And shit, it's working
right now. You know what I'm saying. I'm hanging my
hat on small progress. I ain't hanging my hat on nothing.

(22:38):
You know what I'm saying, win by win, small win
and small win. I see you saying all yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You was like you name you name care va people
that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
And Ryan out with, Yeah, what about the people that
just didn't understand, just didn't get it? How you deal
with those type of people or just didn't get you
or people that gave up on you a people relationship
you had to give up on, Like how you deal
with those?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
How does it affect you mentally?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I mean I kind of tend to just leave like
a lot of the stuff where you know what I'm saying,
where it's at. And then it's like if if you
like it's like if you gave up on me and whatever,
or if you didn't see whatever I seen, then it's
like I just overly work hard. That's how I deal
with it and make sure that I'm progressing and make
sure I'm doing what I need to do. Cause it's
like I ain't trying to say nothing to you. I

(23:20):
talk with the work. I talk with the results. I
talk with the progress. You know what I'm saying. And
that's just how I deal with it. You know what
I'm saying, Like I don't wash my hands with so
much shit bang like I'm so ingbout Like don't you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's peace though, That's what peace come in.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Like you can't care because it people that you really love,
your whole heart that you just can't deal with because
they make you the worst person that you can be.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know what I'm saying, Like when you wash your hands, man,
you already know, like I'm at that point. So it's
like people be like, yo, this be yo, how you
keep going? You got this going on? This going on?
That shit don't affect me. I be trying to you know,
you know, I disattach. You know what I'm saying is
it don't affect you or you just And I've already
like looked in the mirror about so much ship that

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they've been asking me, like that's the same stuff, and
like when you already overcame and really truly like have
put that behind you, it's nothing. That shit cannot affect you,
like it can't like you.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Know, so so you ain't dwelling on none of this.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Sh I ain't dwelling on ship futuristic Leland gone, I'm gone.
I ain't dwelling on nothing like I get to reset,
but until my whole ship down, I don't give a
damn look as ugly i'ma build this ship back up,
real ship right in front of everybody. I don't give
a damn high. You know what I'm saying, And that's
what I'm doing, Cleaning this ship up, ship working right,
tell you them and tell it to come from just

(24:39):
the projects. Yeah, Tom of hell, he see you're parking
lot on the right. Three twenty four, Big Amy, Auntie,
Mary Joe, Candy Lady. For real?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
What's some ship the project taught you? Outside of it?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Keep going mentality that you could you would have never
learned if you stayed.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Somewhere, Probably that it's bigger than this, or it's a
world outside of this, you know what I'm saying, Cause
you know, like that be so much of a part
and then we forget it. Be it's a bigger world.

(25:16):
You know what I'm saying. We stay in the hood
all day, but it's you know, it's it's like that,
it's a big world. It's something else in life other
than this, you know what I'm saying. And then that
make you, you know what I'm saying, that kind of
spread your mentality, get get you to moving around, and
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You said after you came out of the project, and then
oh you're saying by being at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, I think there's one thing anything else?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it don't teach you that if
you stayed at.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Them, No, no, know what I'm saying, Like even in
the nah you know like now it don't it don't
teach you that if you stay, if you stay there,
if you can go on and yeah, you know what
I'm saying, if you go see some ship then yeah,
I ain't saying just as far as staying in there,
but being there like you always it's like you're so
suppressed right there and sometimes you don't know like his

(26:03):
other life outside that you feel me? Sure, you see
what I'm saying. So taking that mentality into any other situation,
you know what I'm saying, When you're not boxing yourself
in That's basically what I guess I'm trying to say,
you feel me?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, sure?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Man?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
What about like instincts? You know how the street taught me? Instinct?
Then when I only thing I can say with like
cause I was just ask myself, what did I really
get from the street? You know what I'm saying, right,
it was instinct? You know what I'm saying, Like, well.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You could feel it like or like yeah, you can read.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Honest, seen every bullshit nigga that is in the world, right,
So I know a bullshit I know how you walk,
I know how you talk, I know how you I know.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It to play from down out.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, I can smell you. You smell like a bullshit nigga.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
So and shit taught me instincts, and I feel like
that's very important to have.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It is especially when you are moving and then you
know what I'm saying. You on the road, we talk
about like moving militant and moving the right way. When
you're moving around, that's when you know what I'm saying,
I'm instincts kicking you feel me, cause it's like, hey
this you know, I'm I'm kind of used to this,
or I know what they're do in this situation, or
I know when I hear that go that way, or
you know what I'm saying, shit like that. So I
mean you, I mean you take that with you. You know

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what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
In hindsight, like you know, we all, I got a
lot of relationship that ain't relationship no more.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
But it's still a little like.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
When you look back on seeing you be like they
ain't one incident, you be like, yeah, I fucked that
one up myself.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I did that. I got to eat that.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Just any incident in life.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
It don't matter, it ain't could be a family man, whatever,
just you know, like you know how we beat Una
did shit, we gotta stand on, like you said, were
moving on past ain't gonna But I know, yeah, I
fucked that relationship up. I fucked that move up. I
fucked that play up.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, shit, probably God damn. When I probably had a
I had a situation on the table, and I think
like the way I approached it, you know what I'm saying,
like just not having the patience. I feel like I
kind of fucked it up. And it was a good
situation for some real pain. And it was like I
needed the paper at that time, and it was like
the red I was in and it was like my attitude,
you know what I'm saying, why I was wouldn't even

(28:03):
let me like I ain't even had a you know
what I'm saying, A or or just to finish the play.
I basically like my whole vibe was off, you feel me?
And then I have to look back at it like, yeah, damn,
I really fucked that up by just you know what
I'm saying, not being able to brush shit up, you
know what I'm saying, or get him you know what'y
you gotta be able to turn it on and off.
And it was a time where I couldn't, you know
what I'm saying. So it was like I missed out

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on a big play.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh how you raising the households? You, your mama, your sister,
How many peoples in the house on?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
How was you raised?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Me?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Mom, Duke's Jazz, Mentoria.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
And your sisters?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah? Really three of us for the most part, into
Jamaria and Jamiir those my younger brothers and sisters. Yea,
they came later, so you say me my mom by
four of us.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Then it was in the project.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah. Well basically like you know, they started on like
my mom and my auntie them they started on like
Chilsen Oh yeah, my luntil Matt. Yeah, after two hours
back to back and then they was like in the
East Lake area to my cousin Jason and Minti Mary Joe.
So they migrated from from from that area on down

(29:10):
to Decay to my mother. Then we had members like
you know, Amy, she went to like Tuma'sville, area, you know,
dispersing when they're you know, when everybody was moving. So
the book of my family is from zone six.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Like, so did you always have the passion to do
music or what did you thought you're gonna be at
first player?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I mean, I think we all got aspirations of like
you know what I'm saying, when you coming out being athletic,
but I could have really, you know what I'm saying,
Like that's what my first love was like for real,
for real playing ball? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
So when you pick up the mic.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
In the midst of all that, Joe, right, my rhymes
and shit probably about like on the bus. You know
how you doing this? You know how you you play sports?
You want to and then it's like you riding on
the bus and you you can open you know what
I'm saying, doing little boys shit you always the best
freestyle of some shit like that, or you just playing
and you good, like you know what I'm saying. I
always seen signs, but I feel like I ain't start
really fucking with rapping. To my auntie, Joe wrote my

(30:04):
first rap and this was like before even best probably
this was ten years old. Shit like Daddy Leven, I
was young with my Auntie Joe. Auntie Joe was a
hip hop artist. She was in a group my Auntie Shorty.
Untie Shorty passed away, but my Auntie Joe is the
first one that wrote my rap. And that's why I
feel like, that's how I picked it up. That's when
I started liking it, taking it real serious, like trying

(30:25):
to mimic and write my own shit or write other
people shit down to try to just get in the
mold of being an artist.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
When did you know that you you had what it
take to be you know what I'm saying successful shit?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Right after God damn the school, uh the athletic shit
was over, you know what I'm saying, box myself out,
just you know, not going doing you know how it
is then not graduating and when you playing and high school.
You know, it's like if you ain't do good last semester,
you ain't finished sneak on the team, if you ain't
do it, if you ain't hunder your business, you know

(30:58):
what I'm saying. So I feel like around seventeen eleventh
grade around there is when I met Zay. So I
feel like that's when it turned serious to me for real.
You know what I'm saying, running in the ziggy because
it's like you're not you ain't playing ball no more,
so you gotta take something else serious.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
You know we can take it serious, but we still
won't know that we that when you knew you were
that Like shit, nah, I'm lingo, God, I'm did what
I do?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh like, oh probably I got it?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well? First I filled back. Then I leaned down like
cause I'm saying, like with Jay, that's when I unleashed,
Like that's when I really like seeing that I can
do it on a level. You know what I'm saying
That I was currently chasing that Zay was on where
he was you know what I'm saying. At like at
that time, him juice guaB. You know what I'm saying,
y'all boys, a lot of people out to see people

(31:50):
was actually doing it in front of me. Yeah, the
same people that I'm you know, I'm a fan of
music that I'm a fan of. So it's like once
I got with Jay, I was able to take my
crack at it. Once he she wants he like what
I was doing. It was like that was the battery
enough in my back, you know what I'm saying. So
I think that's where the battery came from. Like, oh yeah,
this is it? Right?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
When did you start gaining traction when people start saying like.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Oh nah, this nigga won?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I want to say. I want to say the hood
was still up around this time. I think I started
gaining traction around like the time I started going to
like Coco Loco, I started going to night Like, because
that's when I was actually bringing the stuff that I
had worked on with Za out and actually going out here,
going out here, going out here and actually feeling it

(32:36):
in real time and getting a real time response from
the people.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
You feel me, nah for sure? So how did that?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
How did your mental change after you know, people start
singing your song and ship Like, what was it different
from Young La playing ball Project Nigga being in z
Baby record to the nigga that's on stage they streaming
your name?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Like what changed in you?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
You mean, just like the feeling or whe did it
take me? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Like you know how you know how sometime and I
hate to say that because the nigga was your name,
charge naw say that. Niggas get stuck on the stage,
you know, what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, now y'all
call them my name. I can't be my regular self
no more. I gotta always be young La when y'all
see me instead of me being you know what I'm saying,
who I am when? Like, that's something sometime that changes people.

(33:27):
So don't ask you what changed for you? Like did
you go to feeling like should I made it? Nobody
ain't fuck with me or nigga? You know how something changed?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Like when cause it was just I mean I was young.
It was exciting. I mean it just it was like
it was it was an exciting moment for me, and
I was really having fun, like with something that I
was doing. So I think like a lot of that
in the beginning, I was running off so much momentum
of just off that that that ship like cataported. It
kept me like going in like I'm excited about doing

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this shit I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Let me see like not having it, you know what
I'm saying, Like I got start having.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Your own money, How did you feel when you start
having your own money on you?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
How did you feel?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I felt great? Like I felt great, Like you know
what I'm saying, Like, did you do something for your ego.
I mean, I don't know. I always kind of been
like this. I always I mean, you know, like give
or take, kind of felt like I always been the same.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Okay, you know what I'm saying that besides.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
My spirals or whatever, I feel like I always kind
of been the same, even with the pape. Nah, I
can go for that. I ain't never wear a big
on nobody or like I wasn't never the nigga who
sticky chest out was the nigga like you know what
I'm saying. I'm right back, like like I'm one of y'all.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
But you saw that though, right You saw a nigga
do that like he could be humble to day.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, I know talking about Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's what I'm saying. It's go ask you what change?
And you said nothing, basically nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
But I was living in some better shiit in my
rent was high here in just different atmospheres. I was
myself in different positions. I was able to do stuff
and like separate my myself, you know what I'm saying,
and kind of distance myself as I'm trying to make
a transition from lingo from right here to now. They
calling my name, you know what I'm saying, giving myself
a chance to make the transition.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
You feel me, did you ever felt like man it shit?
Olver it ever?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Man, I'm gonna be honest. I like I swelt like
I never gave it. I never felt like it was
over it. Like you see, like after a lot of shit,
I popped right back out and I'm just still working.
I just know like every dog had a day, and
I just know like I used to use other people's situations.
Not saying that, but I used to see like damn
Brad or research, but boom boom, it took him like

(35:41):
right here he was this age when you know what
I'm saying. So it's like when I see something happen,
somebody will let you know. You know what I'm saying,
it's possible, and you already over believe in your youth
and your craft and your pop and your lingo. You
overly could believe in it. So it's like it's inevitable
that it happened again unless you just abandon this ship
and stop going to the gym, or just just go

(36:05):
on some just you know what I'm saying, on some
out of shape ship.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You feel me, saying you said basically, as long as
you keep working, you outwork the hate.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, you can out work the hate and you can
change the narrative with your work at it in your workload.
That's what I'm currently doing.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, how many time you noticed that? Niggas thought it
was over for you every time?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
And not overly every time. So they asked, like jeopardy
or family feud or whatever, No, that's not that. And
then you know, if you you know, when you learn,
you focus, you channel in or something, you've done it
more than once, do you start to believe they give
you a lot of confidence, like you.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Think you how to do that?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I mean, you know I can't. I ain't. Don't. I
don't think you get a lot. Hell Na, I ain't. No, nigga,
ain't you got a lot. I ain't sitting over here overly.
I never got my next run bank because you gotta
think I had one situation right, this was my like,
my only situation was grand hustle in the scope. Yeah,
I ain't no situation there.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
But when you be right at the door for the situation,
pop up, yo, add do some bullshit?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No no, not just was saying nah not I ain't.
I ain't gonna disagree with that. I ain't gonna disagree
like it ain't having all players, you know that, that's
what's yeah, that's what Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
But we got, but we got, but we gotta notice
that we suck up and and and walk on eggshells
to know God and put some greatness in us. And
so we're supposed to be great. So the only thing
is stopping up for being great is.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Us, Yeah, for sure. And so that's why I'm treating
like this, like even with this whole approach, it's like
I'm grateful for this, Like I'm super grateful, and I
handle this ship every day like I'm grateful for it.
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I take it
very serious. Always have this some ship that I love.
And the only way to make progress or get anything

(38:05):
out something you love. You know what I'm saying. You
you know what I'm saying, It's like that's what you
gotta do. And so brih, I overly like appreciate every
little thing bang all the way down to the ad
libs bro so, and I feel like my pure self
is why like a lot of stuff is like trans
like going for me right now.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You're saying you so tapped in you you you don't
look at and now you've been through as you look
at that as your journey.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Man, I look at that ship. Is boy's finna make
the greatest book or movie in the world. Like, don't
give a damn. I don't give a damn. I go
through it and come talk about it. You see it,
and I come and tell you exactly what happened. Shit,
you know what I'm saying. And that's what's like a strength,
like you feel me though you can't beat me with that.
Knock that off You've heard that ain't gonna work. You know,
I know who I am. I know what I supposed

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to be doing.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
So you said as by no, hell no for what.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Worst thing happened? I didn't seen? Yeah, Like so it's like,
why be embarrassed about it? You know what I'm saying. No,
you gotta dust that shit off or you're gonna be
fucked up. You feel it. That should have caught you
a decade of you're like worrying by some shit you
feel me should have caught you five years of your
mental worrying about some shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
So how you handled it that first, like knowing like
your first first time, like you had to.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Grow to this.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah you had to grow it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Fu, But how you handling it back then? So for
a nigga that's handling it like that now, a nigga
who might be looking down on itself thinking like people
feel like it's old with me, how shit they handle it?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I tell my people this, and I appreciate this. I think.
I always tell people like, we gotta take ourselves off
this fixed stass. Watch ain't no age or no lemit
on your pop? You know what I'm saying. Like I
got brothers, I'm like, I'm like, damn, bro, are you
giving up on your pop? You feel me? On your band?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You one of them?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
How you giving up on your body? How you laying
your you know? And it's like it be because of like, Yo,
it ain't happen at this time. If I would have
ever thought like yo, this ship didn't happen at this time,
I wouldn't even be This ship wouldn't even be going on.
So it's like it's never over with, Like you gotta
know that ship. And like bank, we've done seen some ship.

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I seen niggas come back from it. It's like I'm
not saying in every situation, but you gotta go in
with this mentality.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's possible. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
How you not gonna go back in the gym you
come from doing push ups?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right, you're weak and out go at least do you one.
If you got to the point where you was you
couldn't do no push ups, start back doing one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Now you're doing to pop your ship. Now you're right,
but not do nothing.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
You know, I think, I think, I know it's like
you mastered it.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I think what you're saying is you mastered the point
of not giving a fuck. How you see me now,
I'm still gonna be working. Don't give how y'all with a.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Missing too, if you don't give a fuck the nigga
told me like a yo B like you got all
your teeth done and you bring out of money on
the last too. You know what I'm saying. And you
think they don't stop you from going to get my bag?
No creaky smile, Ja Cole. All my blimingshits, y'all seen
the scars already make these calls look good. Real shit,
I ain't tucking no smoke or nothing.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
No that real shit. What you're saying now that that's
a mentality that a nigga have to have.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Man, niggas, A lot of niggas are lay down like Bro,
I ain't me no more lay down you saying, Bro,
you gotta know you, you and your heart.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
You gotta know you, you and your heart and who
you are. You know what I'm saying, And like I mean,
it takes time to do that, like you're saying right now, Bank,
this took me a minute to get This took me
a lot of going through You know how many I
had to go through ten different things.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Back to back to back to back to back.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Just to get to hear exactly you see. That ship
took a lot, nigga. So I'm just saying, like, over
a time. When you get there, it's like, Yo, you
gotta know. I gotta do this for my people. I
don't care what nobody think. I don't care what because
who's gonna do this shit for? You?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Ain't let me ask you something, bro?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
See here a question, what part do you think, like
taking drugs play a part of it? You not being well?
I feel like it should be it. I know you
were back to work. But I'm saying, what part of you.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Like I think what you mean, just what part of
I think it played a big part.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, So what you're doing, what you're doing to like
move away from that type of shit or maintaining I
ain't say maintaining.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
The urgent keep it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
To keep the way you can stay more focused on
what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I think it's currently for me, and it's some real shit.
I think it was like, well, my uncle died, my
uncle Calvin. Rest of the people, my uncle Calvin, when
somebody gave him just like something it was the bad whatever, whatever.
And I think that was really like that, like that
was heartbreaking for me. And then that was just like damn,

(42:47):
this could have been like I almost looked at it
like yo, this shit can be in it, you know
what I'm saying. And so I think I'm just saying
recently that's been like for me, it's like damn, I
gotta god damn cleaning it up on Cacavin. You got
me all right, for real? For real? Ship you getting
these street farming consuls or any whatever you're doing, or
even if you've been dealing with somebody, even for a

(43:08):
long period of time, get some ship that ain't what
it is, and that ship over with.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
You be the one to take the ball on everybody.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
And everybody else. So that's been like a thing for me,
you know what I'm saying. And so like I've been
doing great with it ship, and then like I say, overly,
just when I'm bored, I'm going I'm going to hoop.
I'm gonna get my l five yo on, im gonna
shoot my jumper. And that's a big stress. Really getting
better vices. Im getting better vices. Yeah, you're doing different, ship,

(43:38):
and get.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Keep your mind to where you won't get idle.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yep, Because when nigga get bored, nigga you feeling like ship,
call them folk man, tell them pull.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Up or god damn. Instead of reverting back to you
like having a urge, or you try to use something
else to suppress it, like a girl like some old
puzzy or some you're doubling back. I ain't been doubling back,
Like you know what I'm saying, better vices go to
the gym, hit va. You know what I'm saying. It's
a Tuesday. I've been having good brothers to talk to,
Like on Tuesday, we do like a It's like a

(44:07):
Bible study line. When is the VA tesday Wednesday? Like
every Wednesday, So I'll be like and v A mom
do it. So it's overly like at seven thirty, at seven,
I know v A gonna be calling me. It's like
stuff like that through my week that keep me. I
gotta be on point.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
You think everybody needs somebody to talk soon?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Hell yeah, Hey yeah, I think niggas, you can be
out to yourself and figure it out. You know what
I'm saying. You can try to talk to get out
to yourself and figure it out, but you overly need
somebody who will he.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Only way you can talk it out to yourself. You
be real with yourself, cause some people lie to theyself.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I'm the niggas who say what what the fuck? But you?
But yo? You you know what I'm saying too? Yeah? Yeah,
because sometimes that that's how I self checked myself. I
talked to myself crazy me too, man. I ain't man
ship just but like you know, just anything like that
to myself and it's like hold on you feel me?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
So on that course, I'll be cussing myself out. You hope, bro.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You ain't here the box.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta be your biggest critic.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
You do, and that's one thing I'm great at. You
know what I'm saying, just shit criticizing myself. You know
if I know it ain't right, I ain't gonna be
biased because it's me. You be like, you ain't getting
to the next spider. You need to clean it up
to you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Saying, What can we expect from you?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Man? I'm just like I say bank, I mean, you know,
I ain't playing nothing. I'm just taking I'm having so
much fun and just like dwelling in this space. You
know what I'm saying that I like just created and
where I'm at and I'm just really moving at a
pace that's really like super like relaxing, bro, Like I
ain't running around like chasing, and I feel like everything

(45:50):
they have came have came from you working at my
own pace and I'm just continuing to work at my pace.
Maybe we get another album, I mean, you know what
I'm saying. Met like Me and Metro working on Eland
or Leland right now currently. After the like futuristic singer
rap Mumba on the Way to be released. All that
purple and Yellow I've been running around with. You know
what I'm saying, They finally finished. See what the you

(46:12):
know what I mean? Yeah, purple and yellow rap mumba
we dropping October third. We got another uh the right
back at it to her. You know we got another
run that were about to go on. I don't know
what the universe gonna bring me back. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
You said you just gonna gonna stay in your bag?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
What you told me a staying? What in that pocket?
How long I ain't been out of? How long I
been in that pocket?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Let me tell how I know you in pocket?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And that's how he motivated me and hit me like
you ain't in your hey, you know what I'm saying,
Like staying in bag, staying at packet.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
You I know you in packing. Let me break it down.
I know you in packet. Because he was so confident
that he was gonna have you here. Usually be like nigga,
be like, well shit, we're gonna see man.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Nigga like they don't know what you don't know if
I'm gonna talk to this nigga.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
He was like, Bro, we're gonna be their only time, y'aller.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Hey, grateful for the opportunity for you.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
To be here, bro, like I'm pulling for y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Want to see you win, King Man, Hey, you and
you always just always wanted the best for me, ever
since little one, when it was like we used to
be in the van. You will see me like when
lil was coming, Like, hey, but I need you come
work with little when to write a couple. You always
embrace me like that. And I tell people that you
know what I'm saying when I speak on you. You
want the guys. I admire your whole switch, your whole year.

(47:35):
You know what I'm saying. In your bag and stand
in your package. You ain't missed the mountain and like,
I don't know how many something but it's hard.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
But it's hard though, Well I'm asking you.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
I ask you all these questions, so if you miss
some ship, I can tell you, like what I did.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's worth sticking with it. Bank. It's hard, but it's
worth sticking with it.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
The only way.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
The reward is great, right Bank, So I'm holding on
because I know the nigga the reward is right there.
I'm scratching my nails. Whatever I gotta do to hang
on to this year, really shit, whatever it take. I'm
you know what I'm saying, I'm hanging on to it
because I appreciate it coming back to me and I
know that I'm overly blessing. I ain't trying to play
with it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
If you could say something to the people that just
never gave up on you, no matter how men tell
you let them down, what would you say?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I really think all my supporters like and I feel
like all my supporters, my shit have been such an
open book that y'all have watched my fuck ups one
by one with me as I've grown through them. So
it's like my fans so familiar with me, and like
the ones who are still with me, those are true
Leland fans, you know what I'm saying. Those are true
fans are just who Leland Austin is, you know what

(48:39):
I'm saying, not just young La, you know what I'm saying,
The real individual and after artists, they know the real individual,
not no bullshit, you know what I'm saying. You know.
So it's like I just overly thank them, like for
even just even want to peek back in all my shit.
You hurt me, you know, and when this shit gets so,
I'm pretty you don't want to look at that shit
no more, you know what I'm saying. So for them,

(49:00):
just don't want to peek over and then see something
that kind of you know what I'm saying, like, oh,
and now staying with me right here. That's work and
change the narrative. Just work through everything. Just work and
just keep pushing. You know what you gotta do. It's
not gonna be easy. You're finnah, go through this ship.
It's just a part of it's inevitable. So you man up.
Go through it.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Real ship, Nah, real, man up, go through it, get
to it. Man up, go through it, get to it.
I'm gonna tell you what the biggest ship that I
put from the interview. You said, Bro, it's like talent outwork,
can outwork the hate. You can outwork the hate.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
You can like niggas can hate all they want to
be lows. You don't start believing what they say.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
You can't lose that ship like an added fan? Is
that shit like an added fan? At that time, that
hater is an added fan. When that motherfucker don't bother
you or nothing. You just boosted your fan base. You
got a thousand hated them. Thousand haters turn to fans
when the don't do nothing to you. Fact they you're bigger.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Now, the real ship ain't catching You're right, thousand hater.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, they do turn the fan because turn into an
added fan, add one more if.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
You if you can make a motherfucker believe like even
niggas that I've been schnick hating on before in my lifeline,
yeah it ain't.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I still come and be.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Like nah that in the paint and went crazy. You
gotta get a head onto them. You get that.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
No matter what.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Same here, same here, ain't no difference, same here.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Ship.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
We all have been through that moment though everybody. Everybody
got there, had dollars and ship, but.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Everybody doubt it theyself or had some kind of form
of doubt.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know what I'm saying. You can't get stuck in it,
just can't get stuck in it.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
How you climb out of somebody looking at it?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
How do you climb out a doubt stage?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
How you climb out of that?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
It's I mean, sometimes it's you know, it's hard. I
mean I think you got to have a support system
of people overly pouring love in you, telling you you him,
telling you you him still, because reinsuring you. Because if
you too far into doubt and you ain't got no reinsurance,
then you might don't get back. You know what I'm saying.
I had my mom who's just you know, like at

(51:15):
times like even in like them prison calls or like
them FaceTime calls, showing me my being, my awards or
showing me all my like accolades and gangs, and it's
just like, you know what I'm saying, it's like man
ship at this point, you know, gonna gonna fight for that.
You know, people every like she's showing you like you're

(51:35):
tripping you right there. That's not who you are, that's
not your that's not your definition. I'm showing you this
would define you. Yeah, And then it's like I see
what I do. I know it. And then it's like,
you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna go with this,
the good ship, the positive ship, that's what you know
what I'm saying, and try to pull yourself back out.
And I mean everybody don't have that system, but I
kind of had that with a mom my auntie. You

(51:58):
know what I'm saying, Certain people like in my family
for real, for real, to have really helped me get
through this transition.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
But I been ask you, do you ever like on time,
think about like when I was in this space, I
felt like this.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
When I was in this space. You know what I'm saying.
What I got from each space?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Like what I do is I go back and say
everything that I've been through, every time.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I fucked up my money, anything.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I did, I realized, I go back and make myself
in hindsight learn something from it.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Like okay, saying like how you be going to jail?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
When I was in jail, I know, I felt like
this and this what my mind was telling me to do,
and I apply.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Now you get what I'm.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Saying, you know cause that's almost like you're saying you
got to revisit. Yeah, yeah, to know, like I don't
want to feel like this no more. And I know
how I got.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
In that situation. You get what I'm saying. It's like
you gotta assess that motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
You gotta evaluate it, Like, let me see what got
me there, how I felt when I was there, how
I came out of it, and why did I come
out of it?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Type shit? You get what I'm saying and never forget
basically letting that stuff stick with you and always being
able to revert to it, like you know what I'm saying,
like use it this stript. Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Now that what I be doing.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Like I go back, like okay, Like you said, I
wouldn't get no money when I was standing around on
hunting niggas, I won't get no money.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I would get some money, but I wouldn't get the money.
I won't. I wouldn't getting no peace. Fuck that, but
that's gonna word.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I wouldn't get no peace.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I wouldn't getting no peace. So at the end of
the day, it's like, I know how this feel. I
know how this feel right now when I leave over
and go play golf, that's peaceful for me for sure.
I know how this feel. This feel way better than
I ever felt before. Boy, come on, rut them on
the mountain. They feel way better than I ever felt before.
So why the fuck am I Finela?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Go do some shit?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
They have had me uneasy anxiety. I'm throwing up in
all type of shit that don't even make say it don't.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Make no sense. I'm stuck on like you know, I mean,
I just hustle two backwards. You make I feel you.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Do that just to fit in. Niggas are harm theyself,
just to be cool.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Just to be in the mix, or just to be
a part of what the standard is of this what's
going on, or just to be in the midst of
the this is what's going on.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
And you don't even like it, like me standing the
club for what I went to every club you can
go to us seeing every bit shaker as and then
in America.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I'm like, this is what's going on. That's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
But go the other ways, peaceful. You gotta got there.
You gotta done that. Man, I don't know, got it
too bad?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
You're not saying nothing wrong. When I started going back
to the gym with my ball, like I'm actually going
on Walmart, I buy my basketball before I go. You
know what I'm saying. If I'm finish, go who I
buy me a new rock, I get the needle, the pump.
You know what I'm saying, Because you know you buy
someone ain't gonna be all the way pump it up.
On the way to the gym, I take my big
black gym bag. I almost imitate the NBA player to

(54:39):
the t. I'm talkingou from the dressing like, and I
go in there bruh, And that's the most like it's peaceful,
brou I get so much like. That's how I like
release in the gym, fact at the free throw line
with the basketball, not just in the gym, working out
inside the court. That's my sanctuary. I'm sure shit from
half court. You ain't shit from half court right now?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Drop the man.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
They say, what ten thousand hours, ten thousand shots, you're
a professional? Some ship like that. I mean, I mean you,
I'm probably like in the six thousand right for real.
Since I've been shown, I've been keeping up. I lost count.
I was at like five thousand. I was halfway there.
Over half. That's just me just shooting ball, like you know,
it's keeping up with it. My nigga Slick and a
couple of people.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
But now we want to see you stay free and
be the best person you can be. Bro. I like
what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Now one you know, appreciate it, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I can tell that the nigga you know what I'm saying,
it's trying. That's how we can do it. Try it,
but we just gotta recognize.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I ain't gonna not, I ain't finish. I'm gonna try,
I ain't gonna not. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
You gotta get that fuck it out of us. That's
what we got, like fucking can't say fuck it no more.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Hell.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You know what I'm saying, be like ship, let's go
over that brother fucking that dude it brother, fuck it.
He can't say fucking because it ain't faking.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
It's different.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, you're right that let just going up the
nah because I like what you said, Like when you
do just fuck it, it's like that ship to take
your mind back into like certain spots that it don't
need to be. You know what I'm saying, When you
already like if you thrive and thrive, you.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Thrive and thrive the niggas, I'm gonna go ahead and
hit the whole fucking for what.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
You don't know what. They don't got on her, man,
they don't got the nigga on all the niggah guns
working on you spiritually, boy, and you fuck this over.
She been fucking god damn little nigga that rod the bank.
It's calm.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You just mixed in with a lot. This ship all
ship all over you.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
THESSR. Bro, I don't even bitch, don't even touch me.
I don't know what you're doing. The nigga. Them niggas
ain't pass.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Like Yeah, but sure, I don't know what's the text
to you. I don't know what you're doing, what you
have been going. I don't know what you got going.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
It does ain't gonna tell me that. You don't even
want to talk to you. The people that you're talking to,
that's what they say. That's a low vibration energy.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, we're trying to go to how you talking about
no money?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Are y'all talking about some bullshit? Then now I'm talking
You're trying to talk you about some real ship.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
And you just that ship just getting on me like
goddamn chicken pox.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, that ship spread spread like legs.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
That ship don't line with you, bro. What they said,
if it don't line a line, you might leave it.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
But leave that ship behind for real.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
They're only funck how you feel about it.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I'm just with it. But over there, boy, I'm just
now like I swear finding it out, like I ain't
got in them, man, I have to keep finding that out.
It's like that's the going back to say, like that's
the difference on.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
The people you went around, like I went around via,
I went around baby gear. I went around these people,
of course, and you know the people you lose around.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Of course, I go to jail around these nigga. I
get geeked up around the Nia'll be around any of course,
this bitch Yemen. It's just a bunch of bullsh it
comes out with people.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, you're right, at that point, the joke's on me.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
At that point.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
The joke so be I'm Doug. Yeah, at that point,
the joke's on me. Knock it off. Beat it, beat
it you do, like, yeah, get out of here, please,
that way fast, the fastest way man.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
One thing about it, man, Now, I really appreciate you
pulling up though, man, shocking some game before we to
get up out of here.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
A Like what I'm.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Saying, whatever on your heart, whatever you want to tear
the world that I ain't ask.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
You man, you know you know, I mean, I'm just
I'm here and I'm going through like probably what everybody
else going through you feel me, and I ain't even
going in fact, act like the light ash you know
what I'm saying, They shifted that bad to what I
ain't still attached to a problems you feel me, don't

(58:51):
look at me like just look at me as a
person who just taking what's in front of him. And
I'm just working with what I got back out everything
but what I got, I overly work it. I use
what's in front of me. Some people, you know what
I'm saying, Like that's my that like that's my gems
to the world. Like you feel me, like you gotta

(59:13):
just really harning seeing and and and know like, hey,
is somebody else going through the same shit I'm going through,
And like I can relate to a lot of shit
that's going on because I'm trying to win in the
midst of real time. Going through you feel me every
day is a big battle for me. I get up,

(59:36):
I push, I do what I supposed to be doing.
You know what I'm saying, See I make you know
what I'm saying, that's what I'm doing. So I'm just like, y'all,
I ain't putting myself on you know what I'm saying.
It's like y'all watching a product who's getting there and
trying to get there still like picking up on this
ship and I'm one of y'all. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Never derived from your support system though, man, Nah for
sure if you do, mother fucker about your list to
them folks, cause like I always tell them, motherfucker, you're
not looking in the mirror some on your face, you
ain't gonna see it, you know what I'm saying. It's
like a nigga can see you and tell you some
ship cause they love your nigga be taking this ship
like a personal attack show. I take everything, ain't no
matter if it hurts me. Oh that shit hurts you. Listen,

(01:00:17):
I heard you, I heard you, You're right, and then
I look at it slock and can't be honest with themself.
You know what I'm saying, Like, motherfucker, you be on
the podcast like brother nigga breathing loud to hell in
the coming nigga, fat ahead, get what.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I looked at that ship and heard it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I hurt myself breathing too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
How the fuck be like hey, man, nigga, niga, nigga,
nigga igga posa breathe like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
No, fuck you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Be real with yourself, Real with yourself, Be real with
your position, your state. You know what I'm saying. I
don't mind showing one man in real time to my fans,
and I think that's why my fans love me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Man, We're gonna document this ship. We gotta come up
every six month and I let you by man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Man, come on, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
What I did?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, last time I seen you in a good spot,
we gauged at we got six as much a lingo.
What you done did to do that? Need to be
a part of my brotherhood. You already are. But like
my mentor bank for real, Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It hit me any time like you. I don't know
what you be doing on the fall, Broime, I try
to call green. Hey man, it was extra sloppy this summer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
The fall just started, you hear. Try going to a
ball fall. I'm trying to make it an em Somebody
hit the back like this such and such.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
This ain't getting Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Look, I'm trying to make it to an eighty ball fall.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And it was an extra sloppy summer that I'm going
into my eighty ball fall, and it was an extra
sloppy summer. Okay, running around getting it cleaning light up.
You know what I'm saying. You got a chance to
clean life up. Well you ain't at home, you somewhere.
What's going to help you clean up? You know what
I'm saying. So I've been running around getting in order,
doing a lot of venues and shows, you know what

(01:01:49):
I'm saying, And being able to work with certain artists
that I haven't got to work with. You know what
I'm saying, Work on stage with people that I'm fans
of that I never had the chance to get around
up until this point. I'm just enjoying it all, like
you know what I'm saying. Now we off the run,
we're chilling with you. Now, we're about to go in
the fall. I'm about to drop some more music, about
to get back on the road. Do what I know
I supposed to be doing. Man, got to get it

(01:02:11):
while it's there, Man, and much it said to you, bro, Man,
thank you. My number ain't gonna change perspectives. Got this
in into perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I really make sure y'all go like to try to
the Big Fat Network. Follow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, you follow me, you already know. I'm mostly on
Instagram my main handle at y u n g l
A on my TikTok Young La Underscore Official and then
I'm on YouTube to the real Leland Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Get that VA bookiet for all but get it VA
booking now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Go ahead, seend that money man sending them up for
the front end man, get a v A book with
them front end man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
We read it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
VA the biggest man, Bank, the biggest man. I'm able
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