September 29, 2025 • 56 mins
In this episode of Perspektives with Bank, special guest Andra Hall opens up about her powerful journey from personal struggles to building the successful cupcake brand CamiCakes. She reflects on overcoming her daughter’s health challenges, her own battle with breast cancer, and how these life-changing experiences shaped her approach to business and resilience. Andra shares insights on entrepreneurship, the importance of family, and finding purpose and peace amidst adversity. The conversation highlights the role of faith, perseverance, and vision in creating a lasting legacy, while also touching on Andrea’s aspirations for the future and the continued growth of her brand.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in
tune to perspect us with big bang bang, Let's get
straight to it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
My grandmother told me it's always better to do one
thing really well than a lot of things mediocre facts.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes, welcome too, perspective bank man, today, I got the
lettend there, missus Andrew Hall with me. How you doing today?
Doing really really well? Thank you for having me, Thank
you for coming. Always do a wellness check before we
get started, like where you're mentally at, where your spirit
at right now? How are you today? I'm doing really
really good.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You wind like a few years ago wasn't wasn't the case,
but right now I'm amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But you had to go through that to feel how
to feel, to feel how amazing feel? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You are absolutely right. You don't know what how it
feels like unless you know what lowe feels like.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hey, give us a little background about you and your story,
where you come from, where you're going.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sure so born and raised was born Alahassee, Florida. Raised
in the country right outside of Tallahassee, monte Sella, Florida.
Moved to Jacksonville in the nineties. It kind of tells
my age it's to stay there for ten years. While there,
what took me to Jacksonville was a man I was married,
got married, moved to Jacksonville, had our daughter, started camy Cakes.
(01:20):
But prior to starting Caemy Cakes, when my daughter was
just about a year old, I was working in the
corporate field and she got sick. No, it wasn't really sick,
she had issues with breathing. We went in, had some
adnoid tissue removed just to open up her airway, and
while in recovery she I was feeding her and she flatlined.
(01:44):
She coded, Yes, she coded, and I didn't understand what
was going on. They took her away, and then while
we're still sitting there trying to figure it out, a
chaplain came to talk to us. Like, okay, chaplin, So
fast forward the story. She she was gone for two
days and then when she came back, her eyes were
bright and pretty, but she wasn't the same little girl anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So that's when I quit my nine to five, stayed home,
took care of her, try to get her going, but
ends were not meeting, so I ended up working at
a hotel at night to just try to keep everything afloat.
I was making like nine dollars and some change. I'm
doing that graveyard shift. And that's when I decided I
(02:27):
had any epiphany, like I'm not going back to that,
But what do I love doing? And I knew that
I always loved bacon. I would always do it for
people on the side and make their wedding cakes, make
their birthday cakes. And I remember, I'm gonna focus on this.
I didn't know how to write a business plan. I
was researching stuff at night, trying to figure things out.
(02:48):
And I remember when I got my income tax because
at that time, Sex and the City it's like most.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
People, I don't even know what I'm talking about, but
Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Was a big thing, and it was a big crazy
with the whole cupcakes and the bakery that they showed
on it, which was Magnoa Bakery. And so once I
got my income tax, I took that money, took a
trip to New York. I wanted to see what it
was all about. I stood in that long line, waited
to get my cupcakes, and then like I got it,
I got it, did the same thing, came back home, regrouped,
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did the same thing, went out to California because at
that time, Sprinkles was like the first official cupcake bakery,
and took a trip out there, saw what they were doing,
longline people waiting, and then I said, okay, so how
can I bring this back to Jacksonville, Florida?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
With no money?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The only thing I had was skills and the hotel
I was working at super supportive. They let me do
like little cupcake socials to narrow down my flavor. So
I had everything, had my business plan, I had my flavors.
I had sourced the location. Those locations needed walk by traffic.
Of course it didn't have that in Jacksonville, but I
knew that a mall would work, so I sourced the
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location in the mall and had everything intact. But I
didn't have any money, and so my ex husband and
I we did have a starter home and we ended
up refinancing that home. We were able to get out
I think around forty forty five thousand dollars. About twenty
of those had to go back to like paying bills,
things that we had to agree on to get that money.
(04:20):
And so what was left was about twenty twenty five
thousand to get the doors open. And so that means
a lot of stuff. I had to buy a used equipment.
We had to paint the walls ourselves. I was the
only employee, so I was coming in at five in
the morning, seven days a week. Did that for two
years straight. Not the only employee for two years, but
just worked every day for two years.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Did that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So the routine was five am, bake, make frosting, frost,
did everything set up, get the store open, become the
customer service, did all of that until I had enough,
like I felt secure enough to hire someone. So about
two weeks in, I said, okay, kids walking in the mall. Yeah, yeah,
So I was able to get them and then so
they came after school.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That gave me a little bit of relief.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But some of those days while doing that, Camille was
in the back in a little bassinet and I'm just
trying to serve customers and.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Say please, don't go please.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't want them to know I had a baby
in the back. So anyway, the grime was the grime
was real starting out. And but I will say that
blessed from the beginning because our very first day and
when I said I did all rolls and that included
sending out my own press release, but got coverage on
our opening day in Jacksonville. It was actually an orange
(05:37):
park and we got news coverage that morning and later
on in the day. As soon as we opened our
doors about two hours later, we sold out of everything.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And so that's how Gaming Cakes was born. And we
moved to the South Side. And while there, people kept saying,
you gotta come to Atlanta, like you guys will do
it really, really well in Atlanta. Had no intentions on
moving to Atlanta. I said, okay, I'll check it out.
So had a little break, came up, checked it out,
drove up and down on Peachtree. I found this location.
(06:10):
I was like, okay, give it a shot. So that's
you know, came here, but I was just opening the doors,
and instead of just opening the doors, I ended up staying.
Never really went back.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So basically, you took something that would that would normally
breaks people and built you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right when you say you would normally break people, like.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
What you went through with your daughter that would break.
Sometimes they would break people's spirits and they give up, Like,
but it built you. You named the company out there
and everything.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was the inspiration behind everything.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's really dope. Congratulations thank you. I appreciate that. So
Atlanta was the gold mine.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is a special city. I must say, like, you know,
for people who live in the city, I don't think
you all realize how special this city is. I can
compare it to coming from Jacksonville, started a business in
Jacksonville and living in another city town hassee versus what
it's like to move in Atlanta. Just it's easy, it's supportive.
(07:11):
It's it's you don't belong here type of like in
other place is like what you doing here? You don't
belong here, and it's like here, it's like what you want,
we own this, you know. It's more it's a different
type of energy and a different type of vibe here.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Telling us how you grew up, Like how did you
grow up?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like as a kid, girl and you girl, I grew
up on a dirt road, no no lights, like once
the sun went down, everything was black outside black than me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But but yeah, that's how I grew up country. Who's
your biggest inspiration coming up?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My grandmother, my mother, Yeah yeah, yeah, tribe of BoNT Tease,
Like that's just how we did it. Strong women in
the family.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So did you put one in your hometown did you
put it?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So, my hometown is a little small town. My high
school graduating high school class was only ninety people. So
I think you can do the math from that. But
telorhass He would probably be the place I did do it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, So how did you laser? How did you
get laser focused on like just building a brand?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like I was laser focused out the cake. And this
is the thing about me. And even when I moved
to Atlanta, a lot of people I didn't I didn't socialize,
I didn't go out. I kept my head down for
about a good eight years before I even realized what
was happening around me. Like when I hone in on
something like there's no distractions, I just only say one
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thing and that's the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Goal that it is, dope. So how what part do
you think your baby played and you like, just keep going.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
My my baby played every part. So that was one
part of her story for me after we recovered from
all of that in even moving to Atlanta. So the
year we moved to Atlanta, it's the same year she
started school and teachers were saying, mom, oh no, something's
not quite right, and I just like, what do you mean?
(09:11):
Is y'all not her, But that wasn't the case. So
I ended up getting her tested, going to doctor's, doctor's
appointments after a doctor's appointment. So eventually the doctor said,
well how about we get some genetic testing. So we
did a genetic testing and we found out that she
had a deleted chromosome. So she's considered to be on
the spectrum, that's how some people refer to it, or autistic.
(09:32):
If anyone's ever met her, she's full of energy personality.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
On the surface, right, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But what I did learn from that is that she
had to be in the right environment in order to thrive.
And that's all of us, Like, in the right environment,
all of us can thrive. So I had to put
her in right schools and all of that to get
her going. But she's I mean, she's anyone who goes
to Linux, they see her face all the time, and
so she is the everything regarding kemmuy cases aside from
(10:02):
the namesake, like she's she's just the energy, the vibe
and everything.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So when you got on your grind and you know,
got a laser focus, like, how did friendships and relationship
did some dissolve? Did some evolved like how did that work?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So I was married and was Mary for twenty years,
got divorce about six years ago, so it was different.
So it was we were our own little circle nucleus.
It was me, Camille and her dad. So we just
did our own thing. We just knew that what it
took in order to build a business, and everybody was
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on board.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So what part do you think is being like in business?
Because y'all was in business together, right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I started the brand everything, but he joined, he
joined along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
What part do you think that played in? Like divorce? Uh? Divorce?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, Oh, it played a huge part. Because one thing
working together is first of all, you together all the
time because you're living together, you're doing everything, and now
you're working together and I think things should be done
this way. No, I think it should be done that way.
And so that can create some contention. But the hardest
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part for us was when I decided to veer way
from Cammy Cakes and started another brand which was named
after my paternal grandmother, and it was a cafe called
anie Ma's Entry.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And that's when things.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Really got hard for us, because I don't know how
people operate fooll scale restaurants and that wasn't even fool scale.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was just a cafe.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But that trying to do that on top of operating
Camy Cakes, and at that time, I think we had
about seven or eight stores.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It just became a lot. Yeah. Oh wow. So Atlanta,
you and Atlanta, I know the dating this ship. Fuck.
We messed up in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right dating wise. So here's the thing. I don't really
date in Atlanta. I just haven't. I just haven't. I mean,
so okay. So my story is, got a divorce, and
right before COVID, that was twenty nineteen. When I got
my divorce, I did online dating. And as soon as
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I was I got online, I met someone like maybe
two days in and that person that I met didn't
live here, and we started talking and it was in California,
and so then it was fun to fly to California.
He fell out here, and so we did that for
a little while, and then COVID came and then couldn't
really fly the way we used to, and so that
kind of broke things up. And then after that chilled
(12:43):
for a bit, and then my family introduced me to
someone one of my family members, and they live in Florida,
and so that's really kind of how it been.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It works out. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Mean I've gone on some dates here, but you know,
the stories that people tell about Atlanta and dating.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, that's what I don't really I don't really have any, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I can say from the people that I've met and
we talk about like what it's like, even men and women.
I feel like, you know, when you hear people say that, well,
Atlanta is because I do ask me in that, I said, well,
you know, Atlanta is the land of milk and honey
for you all, and then they go, well, it depends
on what level of milk we're talking about it, what
level of honey we're talking about. And so I feel
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like men do have struggles regardless of age because and
you know, and I'm in my early fifties and you know,
we're considered to be nobody ain't checking on y'all aunties
type of type of vibes. But I feel like, regardless
of our age, if you're a good person, people still
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want good people in that life.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So yeah, let's take it back to the business. What
was some of your early, early on mistakes that you
looked at like, I shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The biggest mistake I think I made in business overall,
like looking back over all of these years, is I
had an opportunity to was approached by somethenture capitalists. I
had an opportunity to check out a caemic cakes get
a big fat check, and I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's my biggest mistake. You feel like you just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, that's not the reason I really trusted an advisor
to like tell me, like, am I moving the right way?
What should I do? And I think I relied too
much on someone else versus just really like listening to
myself and my own spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you could have cashed in, just sold the brand completely.
Yeah you would have done that. Yeah, I would have
done it. Tell you that's what we do with building.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Instead what look, what happened?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Life happened?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And when once life happened, you have to put that
kind of stuff meaning for me when I say life
happened years four after divorce, then COVID and then breast cancer.
Diagnosed with breast cancer. When I was diagnosed with that,
I just had to check completely out because one I
carried a BRONC I found out I didn't know it
until then. My my diagnosis was triple negative, which is
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the hardest type of breast cancer to beat. And also
I carried the brocka chen, meaning that you know that
it was line dormant and it took something to spark
it all. And so those two things alone are like
to make this the type of cancer for me very
very difficult. And so I just completely checked out of
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everything and said, I got to focus on me first
before stepping back into this.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And then, you know, so who's running a business while
you It was really on auto pilot.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It really was. I had managers in place, but yeah,
it was kind of an autopilot and and just a
lot of things I couldn't deal with it. I said, well,
after I'm over this, I'll just have to pick up
the pieces wherever they are. Which is why my thing
says we're back on the map, because a lot of
people wanted to know, like what location, what happened in
that location, Like what's going on with you guys, what's happening,
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And they didn't really know like the full story of everything.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, wow, I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's crazy.
So so going through that process of you know, trying
to get better, so you beat it, right, Yeah? Yeah,
So going through that process of trying to you know,
beat it and get your life back on track, where
was your mindset that it was?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It was all over the place. I'm not gonna lie.
It was a lot of dark days. And I think
anyone in they when you're going through a process like this,
and I was going through emory, they know that sometimes
you need support, and so they the therapy was available
for us, and I did do that, but it was
online therapy, putting me in different social groups. I didn't
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do that because that almost felt like a second job
to me, like really trying to keep up with all
the different meetings. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's hard when you look at yourself in the mirror
and one day, you know, you see one person. And
when you're going through chemo, the skin gets really like
dark and ashed out. You lose all of course, you
lose all your hair. But a lot of people said
that you don't look like what you're going through. But
if I didn't look like it, I definitely felt it.
So it was it was definitely challenging.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Did you ever have know going through what you went
through with your baby and then you going through you know,
surviving counsel. Did you ever have moments where you questioned God,
like what's going on? No? I never did that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But what I did do was I leaned in closer
to God, and luckily I had a friend that came
into my life around the same time that kind of
pushed me more into the Word. And even now, like
as a part of my daily routine, as I wake
up every morning, I have the Bible app on my phone.
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I start my day with the Scripture every day like,
and that has really kind of kept me grounded, so
to speak. Yeah, what's some other stuff you do just
to keep yourself, you know? I work out now three
days a week. I changed my diet from eating a lot.
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I never was a big meat eater, but I definitely
laid off of some chicken, although I still like that
ten piece all flats, extra chrispy. So that's that's my
vice right there. I eat a lot of fish, eat
lots and lots of vegetables. I eat meat probably about
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three times a week, and the other times I try
to go like heavy on vegetables.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Drink lots of water.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't drink any alcohol at all never was a
I never was an alcohol big alcohol drinker. I would
just do it socially. But now zero never smoked, so
that wasn't a big thing. I do like gummy, so
that that actually helps relax. You got your you know,
I gotta stair shut out. Would you take the CD
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the real Yeah, yeah, yeah, CVD.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I like them. CBDs kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They neave me cloudy to long Oh yeah the next day,
yeah you do be kind of yeah. I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So how often do you have to go back and
like check.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Every six months, go back for a checkup, be nervous.
I just said one about a month ago, And no,
I wasn't nervous. I wasn't nervous because let me tell
you what happened. So when I went through that process,
what I realized is that we all, I mean all
of us have to say, okay, how much mad I
don't care what you look like. We all have the
same story, this boring date and then this inspiration date
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and that dash in the middle. And so it's the
dash in the middle that determines what your life is.
And some people dash is longer, some people that'sh is shorter.
And so what I realize is that as long as
I'm still in the middle, I got that dash, it's
gonna live it up. So so I don't worry about it.
It's like whatever, we all got the same ending. Some
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some come.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Sooner, some come later, and so there's nothing I can
do about it. Live in between, and that dash is
your best life you can is it? That is it?
I feel That's what I figured out. So what what
what what's your living your best life look like to you?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
For me, it is not worrying about certain things like
before I used to be like so like it's gotta
be right, that's got to be on top of these people.
I gotta do this, I gotta do that, Like I
just like put the right people in the right place,
let them do their job, hold them accountable. Take that
off of me. And the other party is being in
tune with my baby girl, like making sure that she
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is thriving and that she understands that regardless of what
label that she doesn't even know she has, that she
has to be able to take care of herself. So
teaching her the ropes and even inside of the business,
but teaching her that she has to take you like
you can't depend on anyone else to take care of you.
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You have to have the basics now. And it is
just like sleeping well, eating well, like moving around, just
the simple things. Really, what I realized is that because
you know, I've been I've lived different LIFs. I've lived
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in a trailer is what I grew up in a
two bedroom trailer on a dirt road in the country
is how I grew up. Moved to you know, and
work my way up at a big, beautiful quote unquote
mentioning bucket. And so now we live in Smyrna. So
I've lived on different spectrums. And what I realize is
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that the simplest way is the best way. Fact, like,
you don't need all of that stuff, You don't need
a lot of people around, you don't need a lot
of stuff, you know, you know, it's just a simple
life is good.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think we we all purpose driven people, and we
we we was taught to just chase purpose. You think
it should be purpose over piece, a piece over purpose.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I think that purpose creates peace because once you know
like what you're here for and what you're born to do,
that that creates like that grounds you, and that creates peace.
When you don't know, it's like you're always searching them,
always looking for something like I just like you don't
feel settled in your soul.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, your no purpose do create peace because once you're
living in your purpose, you're able to say no, you're
able to be your authentic self out of you at peace.
You feel like you're at peace right now, I'm totally
at peace. I'm so at peace. What's the thing that
you have to got? And you know how, we have to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Realize when you're not in alignment, like when you're not
like when don't force stuff when it just doesn't align,
it just doesn't align.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come that no, you know, like if it don't align
behind this, don't just don't resonate with my spirit right right,
That's it, that's it. But that's kind of hard to
do when it's when it's something that you.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Really feel like you want though, right when you really
feel like you want it, But then also you have
to look at is it right? So okay, So you
know how I'm gonna use this from a dating and perspective,
like if you have a dating for preference, Yeah, your
preference may look like six' five and this and, that
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but the person that's right for you may not look like,
that and you really feel at peace and at home
with something different versus trying to make force yourself with
something and that and not being totally, respected not being
totally cared for and all of. That so you're out of.
Alignment so when you're in, alignment then it's just it's everything.
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Flows so you just have to, learn like you have
to learn your place in. Life and it goes back
to purpose.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Too do you ask you? Something do you feel like
we all are are design where we automatic know our
energy automatic tell us if we're aligned with people or
things or businesses and.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Things, YEAH i call it. Instinct now they say women
have STRONG i think everyone has. Instincts but you, know it's.
Energy it's something that we JUST i think we all
have built in. Us children have it for, sure dogs have.
It like you, know when something is, right you lean
in and if it doesn't feel, right you kind of
see it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Back you can't fold your. Arms so it's just it's.
Energy why you think we Resist we resist our.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Instinct because we're not one hundred comfortable with who we.
Are we think that this is what life should look.
Like instead of saying, NO i actually know WHAT i
want and WHERE i want to. Be, instead success may
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look like this over, here having this type of person
on your, arm or living this type of, life or
driving this type of. Car it's always strived for, That
but are you really comfortable in that? ENVIRONMENT i think
that AND i AND i AND i understand it because
for me it was like UNTIL i have, That i'm
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gonna always want.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That but once you get, that then you, go you,
Know i'm.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Cool you know that's not really WHAT i. True i'm
not truly comfortable one percent.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Comfortable what's some things that you value that holds no
value no more to, You.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like just the simple like going on walks like's.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know What i'm, Saying like that you value back
in the, Day oh THAT i used to value back
and now it's like whole no zero, value zero.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Value OH i used to Value like WHEN i first moved,
here IT'S i drove around AND i didn't. KNOW i
just used the other side of.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Me IS i like?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
DESIGN i like, Architecture like even WHEN i, traveled that's
kind of that's kind of HOW i get. That AND
i don't like doing like the standard touristy, stuff SO
i always like try to go off the beaten path
and look at beautiful. Homes and so, anyway WHEN i
first moved, here like just driving Around bucket and looking
at all of the pretty, houses and the ONE i
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discovered the Church New, Hope aemy church that's. BURIED i
don't know if y'all, know but there's An ammy church
that's buried in the heart of all these, big beautiful
homes In. Bucket but it's a. Difference that was a,
slave al, Right SO i found that. Church but WHAT
i did WAS i remember being on the mount here one,
day just driving, around AND i remember, Saying i'm going
to live here one. DAY i just said that to,
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myself LIKE i JUST i got. It and then eventually
that one day. Came but then when it, CAME i
was working so. MUCH i didn't even enjoy the, house
LIKE i didn't even LIKE i don't even half remember living.
There lived there for about seven, years AND i don't
even really remember it BECAUSE i was like on a,
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grind like and it Doesn't then some Days i'll drive
by they tore it down now and built something. Else
but some DAYS i drive the neighborhood and my daughters
in the, CAR i.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Said you you you missed living over?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Here said, no not, really but, yeah so that's that's
one of the THINGS i would. Say you know that need.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To just like everything that that you you think you,
want when you get, it it just don't hold no
value to you no. More it's, like, yeah, yeah you
know What i'm.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Saying check you check the box and keep it.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Pushing but the simplest thing holds the most. Value LIKE
i can, go like you, say going, WALKS i go
on a, HIKE i can go play some golf AND
i field. Excellent yeah, yeah, yeah same same. Here it's
crazy AND i THINK i think we're just getting. Old
you LIKE i can't even stand in, It like people
be inviting me. PLACES i can't even be there more
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than ten. Minutes yeah what's? That? Yeah, yeah what what's?
That what that? Means AND i think a lot of
my friends get get get get kind of upset with
me CAUSE i don't come to. Nothing yeah it's LIKE i.
Don't IT'S i don't value that no. MORE i. UNDERSTAND
i used to be, outside.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Used to be outside and SAY i never was an outside.
PERSON i never valued. That but NOW i get.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
IT i get. IT i get. It how things. Change
so people from your, hometown they look at you like it's. Superstar,
no why wouldn't They, WELL i mean they're proud of.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Me but that's the, thing like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Do you know a lot of people From. Florida, yeah
we don't really move like you, know we were kind of, yeah,
okay you, Know i'm just So i'm, saying Like i'm
about the small, town not like you coming you're coming
out of, There like it ain't that many people that
came out and did what you've, done.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Right, well we gotta so you need to Say I'm.
Madison it is from you, know he's a few. People
but we still just like we're, cool wholesome. People, yeah,
yeah like, okay you're going to church on the. Side
they want to, know, like, yeah we're just.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Cool what was when did you, KNOW i, know you
say the first day you sold? Out you know What
i'm saying completely so like your first day and that
was that was still back In, florida right That so
when did you, know Like hammy Case helplo officially. ARRIVED
i think That so that was a, pivotal pivotal moment for.
Me but when we came To, Atlanta peachtree First Valentine's
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day line wrapped around the block and it's like non
stop for. Hours that's WHEN i realized, That, okay we got.
SOMETHING i remember you had like a like a machine,
too you can pull up and somebody had like a
like a box or something that you just pull up
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and get them out of. Box oh that's the mother.
People that wasn't you?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Know that was who they're trying to. Do that was
the company out Of. California oh oh, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
NO i remember that, though BUT i remember because if
you was righting On Pea street by ben in huntall, right, yeah,
YEAH i remember. That WHEN i first got, here my
own girl had she had what what do you?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Do the body ship right there in the same Pleasure
what do you call it when when the women get
their lashes and? Stuff? No, yeah what WHAT i name?
Interview Her manwim and Not Twine chanel was in the same.
Play she did. Lashes, YEAH i remember. Slashes Oh, shi
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it WAS i think you all, right that's HOW i
saw it first camera. Case maybe she's, Upstairs, yeah she was.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
UPSTAIRS i remember lashes being. Upstairs, Misconceded, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Remember that's HOW i saw for something came down and
got me a couple of. K's, NO i think what
you're doing is really, dope AND i think your story
is really. Dope what what's what's like you think the biggest, misconception,
like you, know because we all judge people from the,
outside looking at what you think the biggest misconception of
you that people may. HAVE i don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
You, YEAH i don't. Know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah are you quiet in your? Privacy are you just? Quiet? Quiet?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
WELL i would consider myself to be private and a little,
quiet a little, reserve not necessarily, quiet more reserve than.
Quiet so, yeah so just maybe people read me wrong
just because they don't.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Know that's. It, No that's HOW i. Feel it's like
people can be you know people you know when you
be in The lime life on podcasts or. Business people
feel like they draw their own person in their mind
when they don't know. You so it's LIKE i always ask, people,
like what do you think people got you fucked? Up?
At like, PEOPLE i think people got me fucked. Up
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they think that they don't know That i'm, Silly Like
i'm really a silly, Dude LIKE i just kick. Shit
but they probably think like you're stern When i'm.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Not.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
DON'T i got the biggest heart in the. World you
know What i'm. Saying you have, Siblings yeah, SHIT i
got on my dad's. SIDE i got two, brothers three,
sisters and my mom we GOT i got a brother
and a. Sister, yeah, yeah there everybody on the right.
THERE i gotta be a chosen. ONE i had a
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FIDDLING i had a breach, birth fuddling, birth so you
Know i'm chosen from? Birth? Wow AND i came out
what do you call it in your?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Geminis so, YEAH.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I looked it up. Though my mama just told me
THAT i looked it up LIKE i had the most
rarest birth. Ever, wow came out feet, first not no sea,
section just came. Out SO i looked at. Up they
told me, that, yeah oh just a. Little but if
you don't think, it who else? Will that is.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
True that is. True that's. True but then when you
know when you do think and then people go all
THAT i suppose to, Though, yeah how you don't supposed.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
To think YOU i AM i get. That but when
the person say you think you all, that they see
that you are. There, yeah that's HOW i look At,
YEAH i get that you thank you at it now
you must see it, too appreciate. It thank. You so
so you're about to be on this new, show, right, yes, excited, Flavor,
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yeah very. Excited are you reserved on the? Show you're
showing the.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Dode they told Me i'm. Reserved so it's so the show.
Is the premise of the show is six women who
migrated To atlanta started businesses in the food space and became.
Successful and TWO i don't know IF i can talk
about each of, them but they all have big. PERSONALITIES
i think the two most reserved ones would be me
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and Then shima who Owns Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Crab. Yeah, yeah the other one they getting lose.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Why they're just a lot more. Vocal so There's ebony
who Owns New bau you, know do you? Know, yeah
so's she's she's a fire. Cracker and then of Course
keisha where we were where we met and she Owned
cirque and So keisha is considered to be the O
g of the group and like the godmother and she's
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
FUN i like you a.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Lot and Then, bobby your friend and her business or
ex business Partner Tyring.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Terran so, yeah so did y'all do y'all film all
together or y'all film just?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Separate we did, both so in some scenes we film
all together and then they followed us at our businesses
or in some of the ladies' homes.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Individually so that's. Dope and the season you think you're
gonna you're gonna be there for the whole. Time did
you enjoy?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
It only one season right? Now and SO i think
if the show does well and pick, up then of
Course i'll be back because the whole premise of the
show is not just to follow, us but the premises
to bring an incredible food festival that mixes food and
entertainment In.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Atlanta so, YEAH i think did you ever see yourself
doing something like? That mm.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
HMMM i think over the cour of the, YEARS i
don't know necessarily with the other, women but over the
course of the, years like when we were really really,
popping like they've been offers to do certain, things but,
yeah just. Never, Yeah and my ex husband was he's
super super, private like even to this, day most people
don't even know who he. Was so yeah that WHILE
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i was, married that wasn't a. Thing, yeah it was
impossible to do well as a. FAMILY i could do my,
thing you, know by. Myself he just he didn't want
he didn't want any parts of the line like.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That because once they give, it once you allow people
in your, being you gotta respect ash you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
That so because that came up during the, Show like
there's a scene in the show where they wanted me
on not, day BUT i went on a date or
kind of a date. Situation so how do you feel
about being in the public with your significant?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Other, OH i don't really give the. FUN i don't
care what they think Because i'm, already like you, Said
i'm already at peace Cause i'm already within my. Purpose
so people gonna draw their own conclusion of you. Anyway
SO i don't really care because we already stamped on
what we got before we got, here you know What i'm.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Saying and that's the, Question, like do you think being
in the line might will mess it?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Out it will for a new. RELATIONSHIP i THINK i
got you a new relationship or or relationship that ain't
seeming in SOLID i think you do because because you
you open to. Opinions so once you open to, opinions
another person that don't truly know you can get to
know you through other people. Opinions that makes sense What i'm,
(36:34):
Saying like, Say, vincent you you out on a date with,
somebody or you dating, somebody you can get now his
baby mama can reach out to, you or now he's
sthing like. Damn certain things THAT i probably would have
never told you can get told to, you and WHICH
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i done left behind. Me yeah you get What i'm.
Saying you wonder why ain't told? You, like, man run
down thirty years of my life to, you and you
know What i'm saying, HERE i am nothing to, flush.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Right, okay what you? THINK i think that if you
want something to be successful until it's, solid you should
just be.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
QUIET i. Agree, yeah, yeah that's a Good.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Hey you know this my man when we, Married, like, YES.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I take key to that because a Lot i've been
seeing a lot of relationships getting destroyed because of social media.
Too i've been seeing, that, lady social.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Media i've been on THE tv shows just being in
the limelight with.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Things yeah, yeah, NO i think it is important to
remain especially if you if your spouse is easily.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Influenced yeah, yeah, yeah you gotta have some rock solid.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ship yeah, yeah if it ain't rock solid on no social?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Media, Boy so do you live up to The gemini.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
To the fullest? Maxic you, Know i'm, Scary So i'm
a blax some of Them gemini Like i'm sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
People oh, wow yeah whatever Somebody geminisa and, no thank?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You what what what's the problem With? Geminis let's break
this all?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right so it was that one like you don't know
who you're dealing, With, like, okay what we're gonna get?
Today BUT i haven't dealt with anyone up close and.
PERSONAL i THINK i always learned through other people's. Experiences
and my sister has dealt With. Geminis And i'm not
saying anything, negative but just just the Public geminis THAT
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i THAT i see out there that like which?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
One here we Go kanye, okay AND i Love andre three,
thousand oh.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Gosh but Every, gemini, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Y'all some special, people y'all. Different but we was born
in the. Summertime, man we're melon. In people's up for.
SOMEONE i THINK i think what it is with, Geminis,
man if you DON'T i can't stand the. Truth you
can't stand there so they gonna tell you the truth about,
anything even and the way it comes out seems it's.
(39:11):
Not it's not sweet like the camic. Cakes, yeah you
know What i'm. Saying it don't got no, sugar got no,
FROST i ain't got. Nothing it's just the. Truth but
motherfucker be like IF i tell IF i say something
to a, person they be, LIKE i get what you're,
saying and you're, right but it's how you're saying the.
DELIVERY i don't know how to deliver the, truth but
say it how the truth. Is but can you take?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It, yes you can take.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It, OKAY i can take, It but BUT i may
people feel like you can't take it because you debate. It,
yes that don't Mean i'm not taking the. Truth i'm.
Debating i'm just trying to give you HOW i feel about.
It but if you make me feel how you feel about,
it you know what on with? You when you're? Right
Like jones, say, YOU i gotta respect. It IF i don't, know,
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BABY i don't. KNOW i don't. Know i'm gonna stay
out of. THAT i can. TELL i always always ask,
them AM i? Tripping? Yeah let me, know BECAUSE i
KNOW i can TRIP i KNOW i be, slipping slipping
in and out of the massa and.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
When they say, yes and when they say, yes what.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
HAPPENS i try to get them to see What i'm.
Saying i'm gonna keep it. RID i try to get
them to What i'm. Saying but If i'm still, tripping
even ask because BECAUSE i THINK i may be. Tripping
so If i'm tripping and you Say i'm, tripping you
gotta confirm to me How i'm, tripping help me understand
How i'm. Tripping and then.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay so now once they confirm how you're, tripping then you, go,
no this is how you need to see.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
IT i don't WHAT i. Do joe old know What i'm.
SAYING i take it, like, OKAY i can see. That.
Okay that's why this is perspective because ONCE i start
respecting other people, PERSPECTIVE i REALLY i found more. Peaces
and that's why you named it, yes because that helped
me a, lot BECAUSE i used to think that everybody
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should think like. Me, okay that's that's that's the number one,
trait bad trait of a. Geminie we gotta understand that we're.
SPECIAL a lot of people catch on, late so they
not finished seeing how you see it close and.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Personal, yet so this world reviving Around.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Gemini, yeah name One gemini is not. SPECIAL i know
y'all say, special but name One gemini is not.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
A SPECIAL i gotta say. That and so maybe WHAT
i fear is that that that light.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Nah for, Sure and and and the crazy part about
it is the worst thing can be. Happening and if
A gemini come, around they can light you. Up that's
when that's the.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Best if y'all had your, medicine that.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Know like LIKE i could wake up in the worst
move but then come sitting on the dream and you
have the best. Conversation. YEAH i don't know how to.
Explain it's JUST i don't.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Know it's tell the different, moods the mood swings At,
okay you got a, tiptoe, okay, Okay so.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
But then WHEN i, did they can say certain things
to make me check myself to like you're, GOOD i
mean you ain't. Good, Growth yeah that's What i'm. Saying
that means you ain't. Good And i'm gonna tell you
a lot of, Things LIKE i was terrible BEFORE i
stopped eating that. Meat so you think BEFORE i stopped
going on this, journey Like I'VE i truly let people
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tell me about. Me at, FIRST i just be, like,
man this is HOW i. Am But i'm still like
that to a certain degree When i'm adaming About but you,
KNOW i KNOW i don't know, everything WHICH i THOUGHT
i did at.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
First, okay but, really let's go back to the. Meat
so you think the meat really kind of influenced your
thought process.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Because it's home alles in that, meat and it's. Blood but,
like AND i always say, this if you don't eat,
blood you don't see. Blood it's just like back in
the day to make a dog, mean they, say give
them some. Blood you know What i'm. Saying so if
you don't see, blood you Don't if you don't eat,
blood you don't see. BLOOD i really believe, that and
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that's for. Me LIKE i just feel Like god have
put me in a space and on a path that's.
Unmatched Like i'm at. PEACE i don't care who's. UPSET
i don't care who don't like. ME i don't care
WHO'S i don't care. ANYMORE i don't care about telling nobody.
NO i don't care about if you're not, aligned leave you.
BEHIND i don't care. Nomore at, FIRST i used to
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be a people pleaser, too, like, nah, MAN i can't do. That,
MAN i gotta and be somewhere upset That i'm doing
something THAT i KNOW i ain't want to.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Do NOW i just won't do. It so when did
you have that? Epiphany around twenty nineteen BEFORE. Covid, yep
around twenty. Nineteen it's something happening in. Life what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Was like a routine. CHECKUP i was like three twelve
be hundred and twelve. Pounds SO i went to the
hospital and they were the doctor check. Up they was
telling me that everything fucked, up my, glue clothes and
my lute close, whatever whatever your, name but your, borderline this,
borderline that. Borderline SO i started on a health, journey just,
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walking you know What i'm, saying and walking and trying
to eat. Better when FIRST i just stopped in red.
Meat and As i'm losing the, weight losing the, Weight i'm,
Losing i'm getting more, Calmer i'm losing all types of.
Shit i'm losing, Toxins i'm losing all that detoxing and
getting some shit out your. Body that shit is, real it,
is it is that's real. Life that's real. Life AND
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i don't. Know see THEN i was. Sick if you
think about, it you be sick and don't even know.
It like your mental your your, memory your, thoughts your,
everything it's a singing he all that bullshit, Man and
like right, now in this, moment right, NOW i can just,
say LIKE i wake up feeling, good, Sleep.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Well what's the typical day of? Eating what does that
look like for?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
You, LIKE i ain't et none? Yet, okay so you?
Fast so you do? That, okay, FAST i juice AND
i might eat, eat eat one meal and then later
on the night drink some old juice or. Whatever you.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Know do you have people saying.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You're not eating?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Enough you can skin, yeah because that, happened you.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Know BUT i felt like that last last, MONTH i
did a seven day watermelon. Fan WHAT i. LOVE i
eat like a watermelon a. WEEK i love eating it
as a mom excuse, me LIKE i hurry up? START
i WOULD i would, HERE i, would, uh you, know
Because i'm trying to go raw. Vegan SO i just
want to start eating junk food. VEGAN i went and get,
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it got me some schletted. VEGAN i would have got
me some shout out to Mission. BURGER i went and
got just packing myself to get that wake back. On
you know What i'm, Saying but BUT i feel.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Do you ever, slept ever slept like eat?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Meat? No to, me looking at a person eating, meat
AND i hate to say, this it's like somebody eating
another person to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
NOW i saw On instagram where they showed they reversed.
It they showed chickens going down the aisle looking at
people impact like how we look at packs of, Meat
and that was so like interesting to see it from that,
Perspective like imagine chickens walking through the grocery store and
they looking over and we got like a human body
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crew up with the plastick on. It have you ever
watched what the health on that fleet it?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Is BUT i don't force the vegan on people BECAUSE
i go to the vital light on And avenue, right
and she she do by BLOOD i mean your blood,
type so some people do supposed to eat certain type of.
Meat SO i don't try to force it on. Everybody
it's for. Me like WHEN i went to her AFTER
i became, vegan so WHEN i told her to take
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my blood, TIGHT i was like if you tell Me
i'm supposed to. Beggan what you're doing is fake BECAUSE
i Know i've never felt this. Good even as as
a young adult came, Back mine came back a. Positive i'm, like,
Okay she's, like, yeah you be giving vegetarian. Diet so
it's Like god just pushing. Me LIKE i, Said he's
just pushing me into. Alignment makes, sense, Right so AND
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i realized and recognized and take up accountability THAT i
do be. Tripping so ONCE i learned THAT i do be,
TRIPPING i try not the.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Trip how important Is god in your? Life the number?
One change everything in? Me But i'm more. Spiritually but
did you ever feel like you hear his voice Or
i'm using His but if you're, spiritual higher being's voice
to say you?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Tripping, yeah no one like like we do ancestral. WORSHIP
i pray to my, ancestors tell them to talk To
god for. Me we talked to. Deities BUT i dreamed
that is my. Dream now My grandma will come in
my dream and, LIKE i, LIKE i can't tell you
WHAT i, did BUT i dreamed AFTER i did some
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shit THAT i knew of some, BULLSHIT i dreamed THAT
i was getting a whooping as a child my. Grandma
i'm gonna even whoop my ass every day for, nothing like,
Nothing i'm, saying, like not for, nothing for WHAT i
may have, missed BECAUSE i know you did some. Bullshit,
okay come, on BUT i got a whipping in my,
Dreams so it's like that was. Wrong that was really. Wrong.
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Man yeah she didn't even like.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That, okay you know.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
What i'm, saying and it was just some. Shit i'm
gonna go ahead and say, it like cursing my wife,
out like saying certain words THAT i vowed to not
say no more like, bitch shut. Up YEAH i got
a whipping for that in my. Dream you know What i'm.
Saying it's, crazy but it. Happened SO i just think
we are very divine creatures man us as black, people
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we the best That god. Created and if we don't know,
that if a person don't know that, yet yeah he.
CRAZY i. AGREE i agree with you were the best
humans That god ever. Created we got natural. Instincts, yes
do you? Believe let me ask you. SOMETHING i Know
i'm gonna turn into conspiracy theoris who you believe that
we were?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Tricked what part just everything are we saying like, slavery
or we're saying like doing.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Like that movement to us that was gave to us was,
wrong or how to live?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
LIFE i DO i believe, THAT i.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Now gonna say THAT i.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Will, YEAH i think.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
THAT i.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
THINK i think if we did not have the involvements
of the others in our, life that we would be
living totally.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Different, great, well you are so politely. CORRECT i love
that you, right BECAUSE i ain't even gonna start. That
but let's let's let's let's go and get back to
this Because i'll be gonna say some bullshit on, hell
what's going? On so what are you envision camra case
ten years from?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Now oh so ten years from? Now honestly may at this,
Time i'm just trying to the state That i'm in
right now is Still i'm picking up the pieces from post.
Cancer i'm trying to get it in a situation where
my daughter there's a legacy for her and that there
is residual income to take care of. Her and that's
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my goal as far it to create stability for her
And i'll be able to.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Retire that's WHERE i am in. Life i'm.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
CLOSE i feel Like i'm close to. Retiring BUT i
can't do that until SHE'S i know that she's taken.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Care Of and what way what do you mean taking
care of, like, oh she.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Likes to spend.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Money the girl needs.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Money she's spends it faster than she can get. It
but you, know putting her on some type of budget
to where for the rest of her. LIFE i know
that that that to seed that was planning can somehow
take care Of perfect the rest of the. Life so
if that means a big company can come in and,
(51:15):
say you know, WHAT i like what you did, here
AND i think that there's enough that has been, done
like enough foundation and that has been created so that
we can do more with it and it takes care
Of perfect the rest Of IF i would love for
something like, that it's the goal is to Sell oh, yeah, yeah,
Absolutely what.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Do you think you need to do from this point
to get it back to the point the where you
had it? At you know that's.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Possible AND i said that to myself my, mind how
do you go back and recreate? History you.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Can't you can't do.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
That, no it's, different like people are different. Now it's
like you can't once you once that moment you can
still do other, things but you can't go back and
SAY i want to try to that's.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Gone that's. Gone you gotta let that.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Go that's almost like saying you want somebody back and
trying thinking that you can get. It the same way
is that's that's you, know and people have, evolved things
have the world has, evolved but you still have. Something
and the reason WHY i KNOW i still have something
BECAUSE i did absolutely nothing for almost two years and
people were still.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Like we Love chemmic, CAGs we Love chemmic.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Cakes so that is a testament in itself because most,
people considering What i've, been it would would that they
would forget about you AND i wouldn't have anything to
come back. To but the only thing that kept iron
a couple of doors open at that point was the,
people just the love for us and the, product so
(52:43):
THAT i know that there is equity, there just getting
aligning with the right person to you, know make it
happen in the new.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Way, so, okay we talked about the. Business what's next
for you as a, PERSON.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would love to be married. AGAIN i don't belong
in the.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
STREET i don't belong to the, streets.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
SO i WOULD i would love to add again on
the personal note and just in and retire and be
on the beach somewhere living it.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Up that's that's WHAT i would love to. Do, traveling.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
TRAVELING i love to. Travel so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Okay if, anything you want to leave with the people
before we get out.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Here oh, Okay so this this says we're back on
the map In. Atlanta we're back on the. Map so
three locations that we have here In. Atlanta we are
on the west side Of. Atlanta it's off Of maria
at a. Boulevard we're In buckhead and that's The Atlantic
square mall right in the center of the. Mall and
Then Sandy springs On Rodsworld.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Road, Next oh, yeah you're right down there by my
by ther shops of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Yeah and then the, Truth oh he got have you?
Ever have you?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Ever have you ever taken that tonic from? HIM i
got some in the frustrator of The navy ship in the.
World but it, works AND i call it when people come,
OVER i, said have you baptized them? YET i call
it being newly baptized at first time.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Taking That but it works though it cleans you.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Out it will clean you. Out, yeah that's the one
thing before we get out of.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Here everything that tastes good ain't. Good everything Is nasty's
supposed to be the best stuff for. You, yeah well.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Bitters so WHAT i learned From jeff is that bitters
they get rid of the parasites.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Anybody so that's part of how it detoxes that. Stuff
just linger too, long, man you gotta. Be it takes
me a whole myself and the detox off. There it
takes me like five days to boost up my energy
to drink as nothing as you would take drink drink
eight ounces.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Up oh you follow the instruction That, no it works
without following the. INSTRUCTION i just do like a few. Ounces,
YEAH i drink the whole.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Thing oh, god the whole. Day you. Can't you can't
leave the. House oh so so you can drink it
like a like like a.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
SHOT i do the shots LIKE i do a shot, Today,
like just do a, shot and it just kind of
keeps you.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Regular oh, Okay.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
See this is a sign of us getting old because
only old people talking about.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
So you're just keeping them a great. Functioning what do
you call?
Speaker 2 (55:22):
It, yeah it's state regular, yeah by just doing like a.
SHOT i just like to get it over, yeah, yeah.
Yeah and there's also a location In. Texas my brother
he has opened up a store outside Of dallas and, McKinny.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Texas so with your, FRANCHISE.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I franchise to.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Him, Okay i'm saying like to, strangers.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
But the one we had In Camp creek was a. Franchise, okay, yeah,
YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Was congratulations on. EVERYTHING i think your story is extremely.
DOPE i think you're in. Dope you you don't belong
to the.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
STREET i don't. Belong so on our website it's Chemmy
cakes dot. Com instagram is at Chemic Cakes, cupcakes and
then my personal instagram is and it was probably for
a long, time BUT i opened it up to the streets.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
So you can find me. There, man y'all make sure
y'all tapping. In, man go support black owned, business aint
you go like to strive and come into the big fat.
NETWORK i appreciate, you beautiful. Thing thank. YOU i appreciate
you as. Well that was.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My grandmother told me it's always better to do one
thing really well than a lot of things mediocre facts.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes, welcome too, perspective bank man, today, I got the
lettend there, missus Andrew Hall with me. How you doing today?
Doing really really well? Thank you for having me, Thank
you for coming. Always do a wellness check before we
get started, like where you're mentally at, where your spirit
at right now? How are you today? I'm doing really
really good.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You wind like a few years ago wasn't wasn't the case,
but right now I'm amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But you had to go through that to feel how
to feel, to feel how amazing feel? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You are absolutely right. You don't know what how it
feels like unless you know what lowe feels like.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hey, give us a little background about you and your story,
where you come from, where you're going.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sure so born and raised was born Alahassee, Florida. Raised
in the country right outside of Tallahassee, monte Sella, Florida.
Moved to Jacksonville in the nineties. It kind of tells
my age it's to stay there for ten years. While there,
what took me to Jacksonville was a man I was married,
got married, moved to Jacksonville, had our daughter, started camy Cakes.
(01:20):
But prior to starting Caemy Cakes, when my daughter was
just about a year old, I was working in the
corporate field and she got sick. No, it wasn't really sick,
she had issues with breathing. We went in, had some
adnoid tissue removed just to open up her airway, and
while in recovery she I was feeding her and she flatlined.
(01:44):
She coded, Yes, she coded, and I didn't understand what
was going on. They took her away, and then while
we're still sitting there trying to figure it out, a
chaplain came to talk to us. Like, okay, chaplin, So
fast forward the story. She she was gone for two
days and then when she came back, her eyes were
bright and pretty, but she wasn't the same little girl anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So that's when I quit my nine to five, stayed home,
took care of her, try to get her going, but
ends were not meeting, so I ended up working at
a hotel at night to just try to keep everything afloat.
I was making like nine dollars and some change. I'm
doing that graveyard shift. And that's when I decided I
(02:27):
had any epiphany, like I'm not going back to that,
But what do I love doing? And I knew that
I always loved bacon. I would always do it for
people on the side and make their wedding cakes, make
their birthday cakes. And I remember, I'm gonna focus on this.
I didn't know how to write a business plan. I
was researching stuff at night, trying to figure things out.
(02:48):
And I remember when I got my income tax because
at that time, Sex and the City it's like most.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
People, I don't even know what I'm talking about, but
Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Was a big thing, and it was a big crazy
with the whole cupcakes and the bakery that they showed
on it, which was Magnoa Bakery. And so once I
got my income tax, I took that money, took a
trip to New York. I wanted to see what it
was all about. I stood in that long line, waited
to get my cupcakes, and then like I got it,
I got it, did the same thing, came back home, regrouped,
(03:20):
did the same thing, went out to California because at
that time, Sprinkles was like the first official cupcake bakery,
and took a trip out there, saw what they were doing,
longline people waiting, and then I said, okay, so how
can I bring this back to Jacksonville, Florida?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
With no money?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The only thing I had was skills and the hotel
I was working at super supportive. They let me do
like little cupcake socials to narrow down my flavor. So
I had everything, had my business plan, I had my flavors.
I had sourced the location. Those locations needed walk by traffic.
Of course it didn't have that in Jacksonville, but I
knew that a mall would work, so I sourced the
(04:00):
location in the mall and had everything intact. But I
didn't have any money, and so my ex husband and
I we did have a starter home and we ended
up refinancing that home. We were able to get out
I think around forty forty five thousand dollars. About twenty
of those had to go back to like paying bills,
things that we had to agree on to get that money.
(04:20):
And so what was left was about twenty twenty five
thousand to get the doors open. And so that means
a lot of stuff. I had to buy a used equipment.
We had to paint the walls ourselves. I was the
only employee, so I was coming in at five in
the morning, seven days a week. Did that for two
years straight. Not the only employee for two years, but
just worked every day for two years.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Did that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So the routine was five am, bake, make frosting, frost,
did everything set up, get the store open, become the
customer service, did all of that until I had enough,
like I felt secure enough to hire someone. So about
two weeks in, I said, okay, kids walking in the mall. Yeah, yeah,
So I was able to get them and then so
they came after school.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That gave me a little bit of relief.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But some of those days while doing that, Camille was
in the back in a little bassinet and I'm just
trying to serve customers and.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Say please, don't go please.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't want them to know I had a baby
in the back. So anyway, the grime was the grime
was real starting out. And but I will say that
blessed from the beginning because our very first day and
when I said I did all rolls and that included
sending out my own press release, but got coverage on
our opening day in Jacksonville. It was actually an orange
(05:37):
park and we got news coverage that morning and later
on in the day. As soon as we opened our
doors about two hours later, we sold out of everything.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And so that's how Gaming Cakes was born. And we
moved to the South Side. And while there, people kept saying,
you gotta come to Atlanta, like you guys will do
it really, really well in Atlanta. Had no intentions on
moving to Atlanta. I said, okay, I'll check it out.
So had a little break, came up, checked it out,
drove up and down on Peachtree. I found this location.
(06:10):
I was like, okay, give it a shot. So that's
you know, came here, but I was just opening the doors,
and instead of just opening the doors, I ended up staying.
Never really went back.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So basically, you took something that would that would normally
breaks people and built you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right when you say you would normally break people, like.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
What you went through with your daughter that would break.
Sometimes they would break people's spirits and they give up, Like,
but it built you. You named the company out there
and everything.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was the inspiration behind everything.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's really dope. Congratulations thank you. I appreciate that. So
Atlanta was the gold mine.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is a special city. I must say, like, you know,
for people who live in the city, I don't think
you all realize how special this city is. I can
compare it to coming from Jacksonville, started a business in
Jacksonville and living in another city town hassee versus what
it's like to move in Atlanta. Just it's easy, it's supportive.
(07:11):
It's it's you don't belong here type of like in
other place is like what you doing here? You don't
belong here, and it's like here, it's like what you want,
we own this, you know. It's more it's a different
type of energy and a different type of vibe here.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Telling us how you grew up, Like how did you
grow up?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like as a kid, girl and you girl, I grew
up on a dirt road, no no lights, like once
the sun went down, everything was black outside black than me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But but yeah, that's how I grew up country. Who's
your biggest inspiration coming up?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My grandmother, my mother, Yeah yeah, yeah, tribe of BoNT Tease,
Like that's just how we did it. Strong women in
the family.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So did you put one in your hometown did you
put it?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So, my hometown is a little small town. My high
school graduating high school class was only ninety people. So
I think you can do the math from that. But
telorhass He would probably be the place I did do it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, So how did you laser? How did you
get laser focused on like just building a brand?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like I was laser focused out the cake. And this
is the thing about me. And even when I moved
to Atlanta, a lot of people I didn't I didn't socialize,
I didn't go out. I kept my head down for
about a good eight years before I even realized what
was happening around me. Like when I hone in on
something like there's no distractions, I just only say one
(08:37):
thing and that's the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Goal that it is, dope. So how what part do
you think your baby played and you like, just keep going.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
My my baby played every part. So that was one
part of her story for me after we recovered from
all of that in even moving to Atlanta. So the
year we moved to Atlanta, it's the same year she
started school and teachers were saying, mom, oh no, something's
not quite right, and I just like, what do you mean?
(09:11):
Is y'all not her, But that wasn't the case. So
I ended up getting her tested, going to doctor's, doctor's
appointments after a doctor's appointment. So eventually the doctor said,
well how about we get some genetic testing. So we
did a genetic testing and we found out that she
had a deleted chromosome. So she's considered to be on
the spectrum, that's how some people refer to it, or autistic.
(09:32):
If anyone's ever met her, she's full of energy personality.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
On the surface, right, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But what I did learn from that is that she
had to be in the right environment in order to thrive.
And that's all of us, Like, in the right environment,
all of us can thrive. So I had to put
her in right schools and all of that to get
her going. But she's I mean, she's anyone who goes
to Linux, they see her face all the time, and
so she is the everything regarding kemmuy cases aside from
(10:02):
the namesake, like she's she's just the energy, the vibe
and everything.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So when you got on your grind and you know,
got a laser focus, like, how did friendships and relationship
did some dissolve? Did some evolved like how did that work?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So I was married and was Mary for twenty years,
got divorce about six years ago, so it was different.
So it was we were our own little circle nucleus.
It was me, Camille and her dad. So we just
did our own thing. We just knew that what it
took in order to build a business, and everybody was
(10:40):
on board.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So what part do you think is being like in business?
Because y'all was in business together, right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I started the brand everything, but he joined, he
joined along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
What part do you think that played in? Like divorce? Uh? Divorce?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, Oh, it played a huge part. Because one thing
working together is first of all, you together all the
time because you're living together, you're doing everything, and now
you're working together and I think things should be done
this way. No, I think it should be done that way.
And so that can create some contention. But the hardest
(11:19):
part for us was when I decided to veer way
from Cammy Cakes and started another brand which was named
after my paternal grandmother, and it was a cafe called
anie Ma's Entry.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And that's when things.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Really got hard for us, because I don't know how
people operate fooll scale restaurants and that wasn't even fool scale.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was just a cafe.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But that trying to do that on top of operating
Camy Cakes, and at that time, I think we had
about seven or eight stores.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It just became a lot. Yeah. Oh wow. So Atlanta,
you and Atlanta, I know the dating this ship. Fuck.
We messed up in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right dating wise. So here's the thing. I don't really
date in Atlanta. I just haven't. I just haven't. I mean,
so okay. So my story is, got a divorce, and
right before COVID, that was twenty nineteen. When I got
my divorce, I did online dating. And as soon as
(12:20):
I was I got online, I met someone like maybe
two days in and that person that I met didn't
live here, and we started talking and it was in California,
and so then it was fun to fly to California.
He fell out here, and so we did that for
a little while, and then COVID came and then couldn't
really fly the way we used to, and so that
kind of broke things up. And then after that chilled
(12:43):
for a bit, and then my family introduced me to
someone one of my family members, and they live in Florida,
and so that's really kind of how it been.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It works out. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Mean I've gone on some dates here, but you know,
the stories that people tell about Atlanta and dating.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, that's what I don't really I don't really have any, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I can say from the people that I've met and
we talk about like what it's like, even men and women.
I feel like, you know, when you hear people say that, well,
Atlanta is because I do ask me in that, I said, well,
you know, Atlanta is the land of milk and honey
for you all, and then they go, well, it depends
on what level of milk we're talking about it, what
level of honey we're talking about. And so I feel
(13:26):
like men do have struggles regardless of age because and
you know, and I'm in my early fifties and you know,
we're considered to be nobody ain't checking on y'all aunties
type of type of vibes. But I feel like, regardless
of our age, if you're a good person, people still
(13:46):
want good people in that life.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So yeah, let's take it back to the business. What
was some of your early, early on mistakes that you
looked at like, I shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The biggest mistake I think I made in business overall,
like looking back over all of these years, is I
had an opportunity to was approached by somethenture capitalists. I
had an opportunity to check out a caemic cakes get
a big fat check, and I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's my biggest mistake. You feel like you just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, that's not the reason I really trusted an advisor
to like tell me, like, am I moving the right way?
What should I do? And I think I relied too
much on someone else versus just really like listening to
myself and my own spirit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you could have cashed in, just sold the brand completely.
Yeah you would have done that. Yeah, I would have
done it. Tell you that's what we do with building.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Instead what look, what happened?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Life happened?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And when once life happened, you have to put that
kind of stuff meaning for me when I say life
happened years four after divorce, then COVID and then breast cancer.
Diagnosed with breast cancer. When I was diagnosed with that,
I just had to check completely out because one I
carried a BRONC I found out I didn't know it
until then. My my diagnosis was triple negative, which is
(15:11):
the hardest type of breast cancer to beat. And also
I carried the brocka chen, meaning that you know that
it was line dormant and it took something to spark
it all. And so those two things alone are like
to make this the type of cancer for me very
very difficult. And so I just completely checked out of
(15:32):
everything and said, I got to focus on me first
before stepping back into this.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And then, you know, so who's running a business while
you It was really on auto pilot.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It really was. I had managers in place, but yeah,
it was kind of an autopilot and and just a
lot of things I couldn't deal with it. I said, well,
after I'm over this, I'll just have to pick up
the pieces wherever they are. Which is why my thing
says we're back on the map, because a lot of
people wanted to know, like what location, what happened in
that location, Like what's going on with you guys, what's happening,
(16:04):
And they didn't really know like the full story of everything.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, wow, I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's crazy.
So so going through that process of you know, trying
to get better, so you beat it, right, Yeah? Yeah,
So going through that process of trying to you know,
beat it and get your life back on track, where
was your mindset that it was?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It was all over the place. I'm not gonna lie.
It was a lot of dark days. And I think
anyone in they when you're going through a process like this,
and I was going through emory, they know that sometimes
you need support, and so they the therapy was available
for us, and I did do that, but it was
online therapy, putting me in different social groups. I didn't
(16:45):
do that because that almost felt like a second job
to me, like really trying to keep up with all
the different meetings. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's hard when you look at yourself in the mirror
and one day, you know, you see one person. And
when you're going through chemo, the skin gets really like
dark and ashed out. You lose all of course, you
lose all your hair. But a lot of people said
that you don't look like what you're going through. But
if I didn't look like it, I definitely felt it.
So it was it was definitely challenging.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Did you ever have know going through what you went
through with your baby and then you going through you know,
surviving counsel. Did you ever have moments where you questioned God,
like what's going on? No? I never did that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But what I did do was I leaned in closer
to God, and luckily I had a friend that came
into my life around the same time that kind of
pushed me more into the Word. And even now, like
as a part of my daily routine, as I wake
up every morning, I have the Bible app on my phone.
(17:46):
I start my day with the Scripture every day like,
and that has really kind of kept me grounded, so
to speak. Yeah, what's some other stuff you do just
to keep yourself, you know? I work out now three
days a week. I changed my diet from eating a lot.
(18:07):
I never was a big meat eater, but I definitely
laid off of some chicken, although I still like that
ten piece all flats, extra chrispy. So that's that's my
vice right there. I eat a lot of fish, eat
lots and lots of vegetables. I eat meat probably about
(18:27):
three times a week, and the other times I try
to go like heavy on vegetables.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Drink lots of water.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't drink any alcohol at all never was a
I never was an alcohol big alcohol drinker. I would
just do it socially. But now zero never smoked, so
that wasn't a big thing. I do like gummy, so
that that actually helps relax. You got your you know,
I gotta stair shut out. Would you take the CD
(18:53):
the real Yeah, yeah, yeah, CVD.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I like them. CBDs kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They neave me cloudy to long Oh yeah the next day,
yeah you do be kind of yeah. I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So how often do you have to go back and
like check.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Every six months, go back for a checkup, be nervous.
I just said one about a month ago, And no,
I wasn't nervous. I wasn't nervous because let me tell
you what happened. So when I went through that process,
what I realized is that we all, I mean all
of us have to say, okay, how much mad I
don't care what you look like. We all have the
same story, this boring date and then this inspiration date
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and that dash in the middle. And so it's the
dash in the middle that determines what your life is.
And some people dash is longer, some people that'sh is shorter.
And so what I realize is that as long as
I'm still in the middle, I got that dash, it's
gonna live it up. So so I don't worry about it.
It's like whatever, we all got the same ending. Some
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some come.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Sooner, some come later, and so there's nothing I can
do about it. Live in between, and that dash is
your best life you can is it? That is it?
I feel That's what I figured out. So what what
what what's your living your best life look like to you?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
For me, it is not worrying about certain things like
before I used to be like so like it's gotta
be right, that's got to be on top of these people.
I gotta do this, I gotta do that, Like I
just like put the right people in the right place,
let them do their job, hold them accountable. Take that
off of me. And the other party is being in
tune with my baby girl, like making sure that she
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is thriving and that she understands that regardless of what
label that she doesn't even know she has, that she
has to be able to take care of herself. So
teaching her the ropes and even inside of the business,
but teaching her that she has to take you like
you can't depend on anyone else to take care of you.
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You have to have the basics now. And it is
just like sleeping well, eating well, like moving around, just
the simple things. Really, what I realized is that because
you know, I've been I've lived different LIFs. I've lived
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in a trailer is what I grew up in a
two bedroom trailer on a dirt road in the country
is how I grew up. Moved to you know, and
work my way up at a big, beautiful quote unquote
mentioning bucket. And so now we live in Smyrna. So
I've lived on different spectrums. And what I realize is
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that the simplest way is the best way. Fact, like,
you don't need all of that stuff, You don't need
a lot of people around, you don't need a lot
of stuff, you know, you know, it's just a simple
life is good.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think we we all purpose driven people, and we
we we was taught to just chase purpose. You think
it should be purpose over piece, a piece over purpose.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I think that purpose creates peace because once you know
like what you're here for and what you're born to do,
that that creates like that grounds you, and that creates peace.
When you don't know, it's like you're always searching them,
always looking for something like I just like you don't
feel settled in your soul.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, your no purpose do create peace because once you're
living in your purpose, you're able to say no, you're
able to be your authentic self out of you at peace.
You feel like you're at peace right now, I'm totally
at peace. I'm so at peace. What's the thing that
you have to got? And you know how, we have to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Realize when you're not in alignment, like when you're not
like when don't force stuff when it just doesn't align,
it just doesn't align.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come that no, you know, like if it don't align
behind this, don't just don't resonate with my spirit right right,
That's it, that's it. But that's kind of hard to
do when it's when it's something that you.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Really feel like you want though, right when you really
feel like you want it, But then also you have
to look at is it right? So okay, So you
know how I'm gonna use this from a dating and perspective,
like if you have a dating for preference, Yeah, your
preference may look like six' five and this and, that
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but the person that's right for you may not look like,
that and you really feel at peace and at home
with something different versus trying to make force yourself with
something and that and not being totally, respected not being
totally cared for and all of. That so you're out of.
Alignment so when you're in, alignment then it's just it's everything.
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Flows so you just have to, learn like you have
to learn your place in. Life and it goes back
to purpose.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Too do you ask you? Something do you feel like
we all are are design where we automatic know our
energy automatic tell us if we're aligned with people or
things or businesses and.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Things, YEAH i call it. Instinct now they say women
have STRONG i think everyone has. Instincts but you, know it's.
Energy it's something that we JUST i think we all
have built in. Us children have it for, sure dogs have.
It like you, know when something is, right you lean
in and if it doesn't feel, right you kind of
see it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Back you can't fold your. Arms so it's just it's.
Energy why you think we Resist we resist our.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Instinct because we're not one hundred comfortable with who we.
Are we think that this is what life should look.
Like instead of saying, NO i actually know WHAT i
want and WHERE i want to. Be, instead success may
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look like this over, here having this type of person
on your, arm or living this type of, life or
driving this type of. Car it's always strived for, That
but are you really comfortable in that? ENVIRONMENT i think
that AND i AND i AND i understand it because
for me it was like UNTIL i have, That i'm
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gonna always want.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That but once you get, that then you, go you,
Know i'm.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Cool you know that's not really WHAT i. True i'm
not truly comfortable one percent.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Comfortable what's some things that you value that holds no
value no more to, You.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like just the simple like going on walks like's.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know What i'm, Saying like that you value back
in the, Day oh THAT i used to value back
and now it's like whole no zero, value zero.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Value OH i used to Value like WHEN i first moved,
here IT'S i drove around AND i didn't. KNOW i
just used the other side of.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Me IS i like?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
DESIGN i like, Architecture like even WHEN i, traveled that's
kind of that's kind of HOW i get. That AND
i don't like doing like the standard touristy, stuff SO
i always like try to go off the beaten path
and look at beautiful. Homes and so, anyway WHEN i
first moved, here like just driving Around bucket and looking
at all of the pretty, houses and the ONE i
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discovered the Church New, Hope aemy church that's. BURIED i
don't know if y'all, know but there's An ammy church
that's buried in the heart of all these, big beautiful
homes In. Bucket but it's a. Difference that was a,
slave al, Right SO i found that. Church but WHAT
i did WAS i remember being on the mount here one,
day just driving, around AND i remember, Saying i'm going
to live here one. DAY i just said that to,
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myself LIKE i JUST i got. It and then eventually
that one day. Came but then when it, CAME i
was working so. MUCH i didn't even enjoy the, house
LIKE i didn't even LIKE i don't even half remember living.
There lived there for about seven, years AND i don't
even really remember it BECAUSE i was like on a,
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grind like and it Doesn't then some Days i'll drive
by they tore it down now and built something. Else
but some DAYS i drive the neighborhood and my daughters
in the, CAR i.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Said you you you missed living over?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Here said, no not, really but, yeah so that's that's
one of the THINGS i would. Say you know that need.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To just like everything that that you you think you,
want when you get, it it just don't hold no
value to you no. More it's, like, yeah, yeah you
know What i'm.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Saying check you check the box and keep it.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Pushing but the simplest thing holds the most. Value LIKE
i can, go like you, say going, WALKS i go
on a, HIKE i can go play some golf AND
i field. Excellent yeah, yeah, yeah same same. Here it's
crazy AND i THINK i think we're just getting. Old
you LIKE i can't even stand in, It like people
be inviting me. PLACES i can't even be there more
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than ten. Minutes yeah what's? That? Yeah, yeah what what's?
That what that? Means AND i think a lot of
my friends get get get get kind of upset with
me CAUSE i don't come to. Nothing yeah it's LIKE i.
Don't IT'S i don't value that no. MORE i. UNDERSTAND
i used to be, outside.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Used to be outside and SAY i never was an outside.
PERSON i never valued. That but NOW i get.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
IT i get. IT i get. It how things. Change
so people from your, hometown they look at you like it's. Superstar,
no why wouldn't They, WELL i mean they're proud of.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Me but that's the, thing like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Do you know a lot of people From. Florida, yeah
we don't really move like you, know we were kind of, yeah,
okay you, Know i'm just So i'm, saying Like i'm
about the small, town not like you coming you're coming
out of, There like it ain't that many people that
came out and did what you've, done.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Right, well we gotta so you need to Say I'm.
Madison it is from you, know he's a few. People
but we still just like we're, cool wholesome. People, yeah,
yeah like, okay you're going to church on the. Side
they want to, know, like, yeah we're just.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Cool what was when did you, KNOW i, know you
say the first day you sold? Out you know What
i'm saying completely so like your first day and that
was that was still back In, florida right That so
when did you, know Like hammy Case helplo officially. ARRIVED
i think That so that was a, pivotal pivotal moment for.
Me but when we came To, Atlanta peachtree First Valentine's
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day line wrapped around the block and it's like non
stop for. Hours that's WHEN i realized, That, okay we got.
SOMETHING i remember you had like a like a machine,
too you can pull up and somebody had like a
like a box or something that you just pull up
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and get them out of. Box oh that's the mother.
People that wasn't you?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Know that was who they're trying to. Do that was
the company out Of. California oh oh, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
NO i remember that, though BUT i remember because if
you was righting On Pea street by ben in huntall, right, yeah,
YEAH i remember. That WHEN i first got, here my
own girl had she had what what do you?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Do the body ship right there in the same Pleasure
what do you call it when when the women get
their lashes and? Stuff? No, yeah what WHAT i name?
Interview Her manwim and Not Twine chanel was in the same.
Play she did. Lashes, YEAH i remember. Slashes Oh, shi
(30:26):
it WAS i think you all, right that's HOW i
saw it first camera. Case maybe she's, Upstairs, yeah she was.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
UPSTAIRS i remember lashes being. Upstairs, Misconceded, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Remember that's HOW i saw for something came down and
got me a couple of. K's, NO i think what
you're doing is really, dope AND i think your story
is really. Dope what what's what's like you think the biggest, misconception,
like you, know because we all judge people from the,
outside looking at what you think the biggest misconception of
you that people may. HAVE i don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
You, YEAH i don't. Know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah are you quiet in your? Privacy are you just? Quiet? Quiet?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
WELL i would consider myself to be private and a little,
quiet a little, reserve not necessarily, quiet more reserve than.
Quiet so, yeah so just maybe people read me wrong
just because they don't.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Know that's. It, No that's HOW i. Feel it's like
people can be you know people you know when you
be in The lime life on podcasts or. Business people
feel like they draw their own person in their mind
when they don't know. You so it's LIKE i always ask, people,
like what do you think people got you fucked? Up?
At like, PEOPLE i think people got me fucked. Up
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they think that they don't know That i'm, Silly Like
i'm really a silly, Dude LIKE i just kick. Shit
but they probably think like you're stern When i'm.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Not.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
DON'T i got the biggest heart in the. World you
know What i'm. Saying you have, Siblings yeah, SHIT i
got on my dad's. SIDE i got two, brothers three,
sisters and my mom we GOT i got a brother
and a. Sister, yeah, yeah there everybody on the right.
THERE i gotta be a chosen. ONE i had a
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FIDDLING i had a breach, birth fuddling, birth so you
Know i'm chosen from? Birth? Wow AND i came out
what do you call it in your?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Geminis so, YEAH.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I looked it up. Though my mama just told me
THAT i looked it up LIKE i had the most
rarest birth. Ever, wow came out feet, first not no sea,
section just came. Out SO i looked at. Up they
told me, that, yeah oh just a. Little but if
you don't think, it who else? Will that is.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
True that is. True that's. True but then when you
know when you do think and then people go all
THAT i suppose to, Though, yeah how you don't supposed.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
To think YOU i AM i get. That but when
the person say you think you all, that they see
that you are. There, yeah that's HOW i look At,
YEAH i get that you thank you at it now
you must see it, too appreciate. It thank. You so
so you're about to be on this new, show, right, yes, excited, Flavor,
(33:16):
yeah very. Excited are you reserved on the? Show you're
showing the.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Dode they told Me i'm. Reserved so it's so the show.
Is the premise of the show is six women who
migrated To atlanta started businesses in the food space and became.
Successful and TWO i don't know IF i can talk
about each of, them but they all have big. PERSONALITIES
i think the two most reserved ones would be me
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and Then shima who Owns Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Crab. Yeah, yeah the other one they getting lose.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Why they're just a lot more. Vocal so There's ebony
who Owns New bau you, know do you? Know, yeah
so's she's she's a fire. Cracker and then of Course
keisha where we were where we met and she Owned
cirque and So keisha is considered to be the O
g of the group and like the godmother and she's
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
FUN i like you a.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Lot and Then, bobby your friend and her business or
ex business Partner Tyring.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Terran so, yeah so did y'all do y'all film all
together or y'all film just?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Separate we did, both so in some scenes we film
all together and then they followed us at our businesses
or in some of the ladies' homes.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Individually so that's. Dope and the season you think you're
gonna you're gonna be there for the whole. Time did
you enjoy?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
It only one season right? Now and SO i think
if the show does well and pick, up then of
Course i'll be back because the whole premise of the
show is not just to follow, us but the premises
to bring an incredible food festival that mixes food and
entertainment In.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Atlanta so, YEAH i think did you ever see yourself
doing something like? That mm.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
HMMM i think over the cour of the, YEARS i
don't know necessarily with the other, women but over the
course of the, years like when we were really really,
popping like they've been offers to do certain, things but,
yeah just. Never, Yeah and my ex husband was he's
super super, private like even to this, day most people
don't even know who he. Was so yeah that WHILE
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i was, married that wasn't a. Thing, yeah it was
impossible to do well as a. FAMILY i could do my,
thing you, know by. Myself he just he didn't want
he didn't want any parts of the line like.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That because once they give, it once you allow people
in your, being you gotta respect ash you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
That so because that came up during the, Show like
there's a scene in the show where they wanted me
on not, day BUT i went on a date or
kind of a date. Situation so how do you feel
about being in the public with your significant?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Other, OH i don't really give the. FUN i don't
care what they think Because i'm, already like you, Said
i'm already at peace Cause i'm already within my. Purpose
so people gonna draw their own conclusion of you. Anyway
SO i don't really care because we already stamped on
what we got before we got, here you know What i'm.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Saying and that's the, Question, like do you think being
in the line might will mess it?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Out it will for a new. RELATIONSHIP i THINK i
got you a new relationship or or relationship that ain't
seeming in SOLID i think you do because because you
you open to. Opinions so once you open to, opinions
another person that don't truly know you can get to
know you through other people. Opinions that makes sense What i'm,
(36:34):
Saying like, Say, vincent you you out on a date with,
somebody or you dating, somebody you can get now his
baby mama can reach out to, you or now he's
sthing like. Damn certain things THAT i probably would have
never told you can get told to, you and WHICH
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i done left behind. Me yeah you get What i'm.
Saying you wonder why ain't told? You, like, man run
down thirty years of my life to, you and you
know What i'm saying, HERE i am nothing to, flush.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Right, okay what you? THINK i think that if you
want something to be successful until it's, solid you should
just be.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
QUIET i. Agree, yeah, yeah that's a Good.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Hey you know this my man when we, Married, like, YES.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I take key to that because a Lot i've been
seeing a lot of relationships getting destroyed because of social media.
Too i've been seeing, that, lady social.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Media i've been on THE tv shows just being in
the limelight with.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Things yeah, yeah, NO i think it is important to
remain especially if you if your spouse is easily.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Influenced yeah, yeah, yeah you gotta have some rock solid.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ship yeah, yeah if it ain't rock solid on no social?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Media, Boy so do you live up to The gemini.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
To the fullest? Maxic you, Know i'm, Scary So i'm
a blax some of Them gemini Like i'm sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
People oh, wow yeah whatever Somebody geminisa and, no thank?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You what what what's the problem With? Geminis let's break
this all?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right so it was that one like you don't know
who you're dealing, With, like, okay what we're gonna get?
Today BUT i haven't dealt with anyone up close and.
PERSONAL i THINK i always learned through other people's. Experiences
and my sister has dealt With. Geminis And i'm not
saying anything, negative but just just the Public geminis THAT
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i THAT i see out there that like which?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
One here we Go kanye, okay AND i Love andre three,
thousand oh.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Gosh but Every, gemini, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Y'all some special, people y'all. Different but we was born
in the. Summertime, man we're melon. In people's up for.
SOMEONE i THINK i think what it is with, Geminis,
man if you DON'T i can't stand the. Truth you
can't stand there so they gonna tell you the truth about,
anything even and the way it comes out seems it's.
(39:11):
Not it's not sweet like the camic. Cakes, yeah you
know What i'm. Saying it don't got no, sugar got no,
FROST i ain't got. Nothing it's just the. Truth but
motherfucker be like IF i tell IF i say something
to a, person they be, LIKE i get what you're,
saying and you're, right but it's how you're saying the.
DELIVERY i don't know how to deliver the, truth but
say it how the truth. Is but can you take?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It, yes you can take.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It, OKAY i can take, It but BUT i may
people feel like you can't take it because you debate. It,
yes that don't Mean i'm not taking the. Truth i'm.
Debating i'm just trying to give you HOW i feel about.
It but if you make me feel how you feel about,
it you know what on with? You when you're? Right
Like jones, say, YOU i gotta respect. It IF i don't, know,
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BABY i don't. KNOW i don't. Know i'm gonna stay
out of. THAT i can. TELL i always always ask,
them AM i? Tripping? Yeah let me, know BECAUSE i
KNOW i can TRIP i KNOW i be, slipping slipping
in and out of the massa and.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
When they say, yes and when they say, yes what.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
HAPPENS i try to get them to see What i'm.
Saying i'm gonna keep it. RID i try to get
them to What i'm. Saying but If i'm still, tripping
even ask because BECAUSE i THINK i may be. Tripping
so If i'm tripping and you Say i'm, tripping you
gotta confirm to me How i'm, tripping help me understand
How i'm. Tripping and then.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay so now once they confirm how you're, tripping then you, go,
no this is how you need to see.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
IT i don't WHAT i. Do joe old know What i'm.
SAYING i take it, like, OKAY i can see. That.
Okay that's why this is perspective because ONCE i start
respecting other people, PERSPECTIVE i REALLY i found more. Peaces
and that's why you named it, yes because that helped
me a, lot BECAUSE i used to think that everybody
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should think like. Me, okay that's that's that's the number one,
trait bad trait of a. Geminie we gotta understand that we're.
SPECIAL a lot of people catch on, late so they
not finished seeing how you see it close and.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Personal, yet so this world reviving Around.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Gemini, yeah name One gemini is not. SPECIAL i know
y'all say, special but name One gemini is not.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
A SPECIAL i gotta say. That and so maybe WHAT
i fear is that that that light.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Nah for, Sure and and and the crazy part about
it is the worst thing can be. Happening and if
A gemini come, around they can light you. Up that's
when that's the.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Best if y'all had your, medicine that.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Know like LIKE i could wake up in the worst
move but then come sitting on the dream and you
have the best. Conversation. YEAH i don't know how to.
Explain it's JUST i don't.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Know it's tell the different, moods the mood swings At,
okay you got a, tiptoe, okay, Okay so.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
But then WHEN i, did they can say certain things
to make me check myself to like you're, GOOD i
mean you ain't. Good, Growth yeah that's What i'm. Saying
that means you ain't. Good And i'm gonna tell you
a lot of, Things LIKE i was terrible BEFORE i
stopped eating that. Meat so you think BEFORE i stopped
going on this, journey Like I'VE i truly let people
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tell me about. Me at, FIRST i just be, like,
man this is HOW i. Am But i'm still like
that to a certain degree When i'm adaming About but you,
KNOW i KNOW i don't know, everything WHICH i THOUGHT
i did at.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
First, okay but, really let's go back to the. Meat
so you think the meat really kind of influenced your
thought process.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Because it's home alles in that, meat and it's. Blood but,
like AND i always say, this if you don't eat,
blood you don't see. Blood it's just like back in
the day to make a dog, mean they, say give
them some. Blood you know What i'm. Saying so if
you don't see, blood you Don't if you don't eat,
blood you don't see. BLOOD i really believe, that and
(43:16):
that's for. Me LIKE i just feel Like god have
put me in a space and on a path that's.
Unmatched Like i'm at. PEACE i don't care who's. UPSET
i don't care who don't like. ME i don't care
WHO'S i don't care. ANYMORE i don't care about telling nobody.
NO i don't care about if you're not, aligned leave you.
BEHIND i don't care. Nomore at, FIRST i used to
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be a people pleaser, too, like, nah, MAN i can't do. That,
MAN i gotta and be somewhere upset That i'm doing
something THAT i KNOW i ain't want to.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Do NOW i just won't do. It so when did
you have that? Epiphany around twenty nineteen BEFORE. Covid, yep
around twenty. Nineteen it's something happening in. Life what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Was like a routine. CHECKUP i was like three twelve
be hundred and twelve. Pounds SO i went to the
hospital and they were the doctor check. Up they was
telling me that everything fucked, up my, glue clothes and
my lute close, whatever whatever your, name but your, borderline this,
borderline that. Borderline SO i started on a health, journey just,
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walking you know What i'm, saying and walking and trying
to eat. Better when FIRST i just stopped in red.
Meat and As i'm losing the, weight losing the, Weight i'm,
Losing i'm getting more, Calmer i'm losing all types of.
Shit i'm losing, Toxins i'm losing all that detoxing and
getting some shit out your. Body that shit is, real it,
is it is that's real. Life that's real. Life AND
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i don't. Know see THEN i was. Sick if you
think about, it you be sick and don't even know.
It like your mental your your, memory your, thoughts your,
everything it's a singing he all that bullshit, Man and
like right, now in this, moment right, NOW i can just,
say LIKE i wake up feeling, good, Sleep.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Well what's the typical day of? Eating what does that
look like for?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
You, LIKE i ain't et none? Yet, okay so you?
Fast so you do? That, okay, FAST i juice AND
i might eat, eat eat one meal and then later
on the night drink some old juice or. Whatever you.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Know do you have people saying.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You're not eating?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Enough you can skin, yeah because that, happened you.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Know BUT i felt like that last last, MONTH i
did a seven day watermelon. Fan WHAT i. LOVE i
eat like a watermelon a. WEEK i love eating it
as a mom excuse, me LIKE i hurry up? START
i WOULD i would, HERE i, would, uh you, know
Because i'm trying to go raw. Vegan SO i just
want to start eating junk food. VEGAN i went and get,
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it got me some schletted. VEGAN i would have got
me some shout out to Mission. BURGER i went and
got just packing myself to get that wake back. On
you know What i'm, Saying but BUT i feel.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Do you ever, slept ever slept like eat?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Meat? No to, me looking at a person eating, meat
AND i hate to say, this it's like somebody eating
another person to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
NOW i saw On instagram where they showed they reversed.
It they showed chickens going down the aisle looking at
people impact like how we look at packs of, Meat
and that was so like interesting to see it from that,
Perspective like imagine chickens walking through the grocery store and
they looking over and we got like a human body
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crew up with the plastick on. It have you ever
watched what the health on that fleet it?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Is BUT i don't force the vegan on people BECAUSE
i go to the vital light on And avenue, right
and she she do by BLOOD i mean your blood,
type so some people do supposed to eat certain type of.
Meat SO i don't try to force it on. Everybody
it's for. Me like WHEN i went to her AFTER
i became, vegan so WHEN i told her to take
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my blood, TIGHT i was like if you tell Me
i'm supposed to. Beggan what you're doing is fake BECAUSE
i Know i've never felt this. Good even as as
a young adult came, Back mine came back a. Positive i'm, like,
Okay she's, like, yeah you be giving vegetarian. Diet so
it's Like god just pushing. Me LIKE i, Said he's
just pushing me into. Alignment makes, sense, Right so AND
(47:18):
i realized and recognized and take up accountability THAT i
do be. Tripping so ONCE i learned THAT i do be,
TRIPPING i try not the.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Trip how important Is god in your? Life the number?
One change everything in? Me But i'm more. Spiritually but
did you ever feel like you hear his voice Or
i'm using His but if you're, spiritual higher being's voice
to say you?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Tripping, yeah no one like like we do ancestral. WORSHIP
i pray to my, ancestors tell them to talk To
god for. Me we talked to. Deities BUT i dreamed
that is my. Dream now My grandma will come in
my dream and, LIKE i, LIKE i can't tell you
WHAT i, did BUT i dreamed AFTER i did some
(48:05):
shit THAT i knew of some, BULLSHIT i dreamed THAT
i was getting a whooping as a child my. Grandma
i'm gonna even whoop my ass every day for, nothing like,
Nothing i'm, saying, like not for, nothing for WHAT i
may have, missed BECAUSE i know you did some. Bullshit,
okay come, on BUT i got a whipping in my,
Dreams so it's like that was. Wrong that was really. Wrong.
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Man yeah she didn't even like.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That, okay you know.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
What i'm, saying and it was just some. Shit i'm
gonna go ahead and say, it like cursing my wife,
out like saying certain words THAT i vowed to not
say no more like, bitch shut. Up YEAH i got
a whipping for that in my. Dream you know What i'm.
Saying it's, crazy but it. Happened SO i just think
we are very divine creatures man us as black, people
(48:53):
we the best That god. Created and if we don't know,
that if a person don't know that, yet yeah he.
CRAZY i. AGREE i agree with you were the best
humans That god ever. Created we got natural. Instincts, yes
do you? Believe let me ask you. SOMETHING i Know
i'm gonna turn into conspiracy theoris who you believe that
we were?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Tricked what part just everything are we saying like, slavery
or we're saying like doing.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Like that movement to us that was gave to us was,
wrong or how to live?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
LIFE i DO i believe, THAT i.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Now gonna say THAT i.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Will, YEAH i think.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
THAT i.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
THINK i think if we did not have the involvements
of the others in our, life that we would be
living totally.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Different, great, well you are so politely. CORRECT i love
that you, right BECAUSE i ain't even gonna start. That
but let's let's let's let's go and get back to
this Because i'll be gonna say some bullshit on, hell
what's going? On so what are you envision camra case
ten years from?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Now oh so ten years from? Now honestly may at this,
Time i'm just trying to the state That i'm in
right now is Still i'm picking up the pieces from post.
Cancer i'm trying to get it in a situation where
my daughter there's a legacy for her and that there
is residual income to take care of. Her and that's
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my goal as far it to create stability for her
And i'll be able to.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Retire that's WHERE i am in. Life i'm.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
CLOSE i feel Like i'm close to. Retiring BUT i
can't do that until SHE'S i know that she's taken.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Care Of and what way what do you mean taking
care of, like, oh she.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Likes to spend.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Money the girl needs.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Money she's spends it faster than she can get. It
but you, know putting her on some type of budget
to where for the rest of her. LIFE i know
that that that to seed that was planning can somehow
take care Of perfect the rest of the. Life so
if that means a big company can come in and,
(51:15):
say you know, WHAT i like what you did, here
AND i think that there's enough that has been, done
like enough foundation and that has been created so that
we can do more with it and it takes care
Of perfect the rest Of IF i would love for
something like, that it's the goal is to Sell oh, yeah, yeah,
Absolutely what.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Do you think you need to do from this point
to get it back to the point the where you
had it? At you know that's.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Possible AND i said that to myself my, mind how
do you go back and recreate? History you.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Can't you can't do.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
That, no it's, different like people are different. Now it's
like you can't once you once that moment you can
still do other, things but you can't go back and
SAY i want to try to that's.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Gone that's. Gone you gotta let that.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Go that's almost like saying you want somebody back and
trying thinking that you can get. It the same way
is that's that's you, know and people have, evolved things
have the world has, evolved but you still have. Something
and the reason WHY i KNOW i still have something
BECAUSE i did absolutely nothing for almost two years and
people were still.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Like we Love chemmic, CAGs we Love chemmic.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Cakes so that is a testament in itself because most,
people considering What i've, been it would would that they
would forget about you AND i wouldn't have anything to
come back. To but the only thing that kept iron
a couple of doors open at that point was the,
people just the love for us and the, product so
(52:43):
THAT i know that there is equity, there just getting
aligning with the right person to you, know make it
happen in the new.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Way, so, okay we talked about the. Business what's next
for you as a, PERSON.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would love to be married. AGAIN i don't belong
in the.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
STREET i don't belong to the, streets.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
SO i WOULD i would love to add again on
the personal note and just in and retire and be
on the beach somewhere living it.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Up that's that's WHAT i would love to. Do, traveling.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
TRAVELING i love to. Travel so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Okay if, anything you want to leave with the people
before we get out.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Here oh, Okay so this this says we're back on
the map In. Atlanta we're back on the. Map so
three locations that we have here In. Atlanta we are
on the west side Of. Atlanta it's off Of maria
at a. Boulevard we're In buckhead and that's The Atlantic
square mall right in the center of the. Mall and
Then Sandy springs On Rodsworld.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Road, Next oh, yeah you're right down there by my
by ther shops of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Yeah and then the, Truth oh he got have you?
Ever have you?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Ever have you ever taken that tonic from? HIM i
got some in the frustrator of The navy ship in the.
World but it, works AND i call it when people come,
OVER i, said have you baptized them? YET i call
it being newly baptized at first time.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Taking That but it works though it cleans you.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Out it will clean you. Out, yeah that's the one
thing before we get out of.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Here everything that tastes good ain't. Good everything Is nasty's
supposed to be the best stuff for. You, yeah well.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Bitters so WHAT i learned From jeff is that bitters
they get rid of the parasites.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Anybody so that's part of how it detoxes that. Stuff
just linger too, long, man you gotta. Be it takes
me a whole myself and the detox off. There it
takes me like five days to boost up my energy
to drink as nothing as you would take drink drink
eight ounces.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Up oh you follow the instruction That, no it works
without following the. INSTRUCTION i just do like a few. Ounces,
YEAH i drink the whole.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Thing oh, god the whole. Day you. Can't you can't
leave the. House oh so so you can drink it
like a like like a.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
SHOT i do the shots LIKE i do a shot, Today,
like just do a, shot and it just kind of
keeps you.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Regular oh, Okay.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
See this is a sign of us getting old because
only old people talking about.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
So you're just keeping them a great. Functioning what do
you call?
Speaker 2 (55:22):
It, yeah it's state regular, yeah by just doing like a.
SHOT i just like to get it over, yeah, yeah.
Yeah and there's also a location In. Texas my brother
he has opened up a store outside Of dallas and, McKinny.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Texas so with your, FRANCHISE.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I franchise to.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Him, Okay i'm saying like to, strangers.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
But the one we had In Camp creek was a. Franchise, okay, yeah,
YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Was congratulations on. EVERYTHING i think your story is extremely.
DOPE i think you're in. Dope you you don't belong
to the.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
STREET i don't. Belong so on our website it's Chemmy
cakes dot. Com instagram is at Chemic Cakes, cupcakes and
then my personal instagram is and it was probably for
a long, time BUT i opened it up to the streets.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
So you can find me. There, man y'all make sure
y'all tapping. In, man go support black owned, business aint
you go like to strive and come into the big fat.
NETWORK i appreciate, you beautiful. Thing thank. YOU i appreciate
you as. Well that was.
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