Legacy Work, Family Business, Finance & Finding Purpose with Anthony “Mr. 6Ways” Dodson

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in
tune to perspectives with big Bang.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get straight to it, work to perspective. Bank. Today's
guess is the definition of transformation from two worlds Virginia
Streets in the South Carolina struction. He flipped his pain
into purpose, his hustle into legacy, author, entrepreneur, mental family man,
mister families forever himself, Anthony mister six way dots.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And how you feel like? I'm good brother? How you
the intro?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah? I like trying to do that.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah that's sure.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. No, I always check on people mental before we
get started, like where you're mentally at?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Bro, I'm good, bro. Just trying to in reality, just
trying to get this word out of people, Bro, Just
trying to change situations. And like I was just talking
to one of my partners, is just getting niggas out
the street and having them understand, like the hood is,
corporate America is just covered up in a suit. You
know what I'm saying. So if I can break it
down to a nigga to make it where he understand

(01:10):
the same shit they doing in the corporate America, you're
doing on the streets. You just doing it illegal way.
Let me show you the legal way to do it.
Like I tell people like the scammers, like bro, y'all
financial a visus y'all just don't know that, Like come on, bro,
or if you get a credit card, it's like flipping
bricks because you god damn get in front of that
credit card. You go make it do what to do?
You give them their money back? Guess what they're gonna

(01:30):
give you more?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Damn. I ain't never looked at it like that, But
I do know most of the time when a person
do transition from the streets, they be a better business
man because it's less stress and you already got the game.
Like you said, we been selling. We were selling things
when I was in the street that you couldn't even market.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know what I'm saying. It's because it's illegal. Yeah,
Like now you can market this shit. We go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's just the whole thing for me, bro, Like just
being able to put niggas in position for them to understand.
My whole thing is I don't want to see no
more mother's cry. Like that's one of the worst feelings
I've ever felt. It's in a mother cry and you
can't do shit about it. You could tell her you're
gonna go get that get back, but she's just like
that shit a't gonna bring my son back. So I
realized the best thing I could do for any of
my dead partners is make sure they family street put
them in position. You know what I'm saying, make sure

(02:16):
their kids ain't going down the path we went down.
Because in reality, like I tell niggas, we get back,
you can get that shit, But what the fuck that's
gonna do for their family? If your dumb mass get
locked up too, you just making another mother cry?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
What's the balance in between both worlds like streets and
working class? What do you think the balance is?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
The balance for me is understanding like these niggas just
is cut through play that game, you feel me like?
So for me, it's like shit, they got a little
shit they do. We doing the same shit. It's just
I gotta convert it. So with me going in the corporate,
I tell them it's more cut through them. Motherfuckers cut
you off. Ain't shit you can do about it, you
know what I'm saying. They cut your water off. Quick
say the wrong shit to them. You know what I'm saying,

(02:54):
you know, nigga in the streets, you beefing with the niggas,
so you know it's up. But them niggas cut you.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah you fired they pencil. Yeah the fuck out of here. Hey,
did you ever feel like you had to choose side
to survive? Though you had to choose the corporate side
to survive facts? Yeah, I mean, because it was a reality.
Which way I'm gonna go. I can be like my
pops or I can be myself, you know what I'm saying.
And the whole thing for me is I always feel

(03:19):
like be the statistics. Statistics are negative, so I turned
into a positive. It's always when you think of a
stick to you weren't supposed to make it here, you went,
while I'm the one that the few that did make
it here.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
So I changed the situation around and I look at
it like with me, the difference is is, all right,
all my pops kids, they all doing something. You know
what I'm saying. I don't want none of y'all doing
that shit, like we see what it did to our pops,
like that niggas incarcerator twenty six years of my life,
Like you know what I'm saying that niggain't ride no
bike with me. So if I could show them, you

(03:49):
know what I'm saying, if I could show them something different, then.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So my thing is, it's like I didn't have a
father figure growing up, so I had to choose the
corporate oute to make sure I take care of my
family because why would I want to make my mama cry?
Why would I want to make my grandmother cry? Why
would I want to make my sister's cry. You know
what I'm saying. And one of the things that my
uncle taught me when he came home, he said, one
of the worst feelings when you get sentence, it ain't
the sentence is when you look back at your family

(04:15):
and their hearts broke, and it ain't ship you can
do to hug them, touch them, Nigga, they about to
take your ass behind that wall. So for me, it's
like once they told me that, yeah, corporate for me,
I'm good on.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hey, what what part of your foundations did your grandma play?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Everything? My grandmama in the world to me because she
was the only one that didn't give up on me
when I was little.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's how I feel. God blessed death for real, Like
when everybody doubted me, when everybody told me what I
couldn't do, she was always like, nah, you you're gonna
be something. You're gonna do something. And you know what
I'm saying. I was in and out of trouble as
early as like the second grade. I was on wow shit,
Like I remember one time I threw dirt behind one
of my teachers back and then just here behind the
school because I was just don't dump in the second grade.

(04:57):
But like my grandma, she really fought from me and
things ain't going my way when me and my mom,
Like when she came back home, she cause she was
incarcerated for my father for perjury. You know what I'm saying.
Trying to say the nigga, but he told her not to,
but she you know how women are, So when she
came on, she like, we need to put him in
an asylum or something because he's wild. And so I
was getting in trouble in school, so and sending them

(05:18):
to sending me the alternative school. They sent me to
the asylum. So I had to do class from eight
to five. So once I finished my shit, they like,
do you want us to keep them. My mama like yeah,
my grandma like hell nah, if you do that, just
know you can't come back to my house. And so
from that moment, Ford, it was just all you my life,
like that's my everything, because she gave me a different route.

(05:40):
When my family wanted me in Virginia and both of
them got incarcerated, my grandma rode up and not take me.
I'm riding the bus. I'm coming to get them, Me
and my sister. So my heart is always hurt because
her heart is big, so my heart is big. So
I don't ever want to disappoint her. So, like my
biggest thing for me was rap before she died, me
and my daughter had that our ted talk, you know
what I'm saying, like a month before and then the

(06:01):
next month rat as she died, a school in Augusta
brought me in. No schools back home was bringing me in.
So she was able to actually go and see what
influenced me and my daughter had and you could see
the smile on her face. So it meant a lot
to me to show her, like everything that you put
in me, everything you instilled in me, I didn't go
to round everybody expected, damn.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So with the rules in the structure that she did
instilled in you, which one do you still live by
the day and which one that you just that fall
by the wayside?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
She said, I'm hot headed. I'm still hot headed. I
didn't telling the damn when I'm still hot headed. And
the thing that I live by is, you know, I
always see the best in people because somebody needs somebody
to believe in them. So if what am I angry
with you for? Because at the end of the day,
you're going through something, you're hurting eternally. So I know

(06:55):
that you need me more than I need you, despite
of how you treat me. She always had a good
heart to forgive.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So nah, really, Ship, So what was your ultimate goal
as a as a young and like what was your
first goal you thought of or your first dream we'll
say your first dream.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Ship, I don't really know. Prove everybody wrong, prove.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Everybody before then before you even know they were wrong
or right. Like as a kid, you know, like we
first come out first, our first like you say, second grade,
like Ship. But I'm gonna be a goddamn a teacher,
I'm gonna be a punster, gonna be a fire I'm
gonna be this.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I wanted to be a preacher.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. First, what what made
you feel like? What made you not be a preacher?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
It was for me I was too because like once
I got like middle school, bro, I jumped off the
porch because me and my sister stayed in the hood.
But my sister never really was around everybody. So once
I got to public school, because I was in private school,
I'm gonna be around them, like them, the kids, that's fun.
Everybody walking past. I don't know none of y'all ship
what y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
What's jumping out the poor? You seen jumping out the
poor to the street, just jumping off the porch? Which one, Nah,
I was jumping off the porch of the street. Like
we got a basketball court in our neighborhood. It was
a rap since then. Yeah, So I just like I
wanted to be a part of what everybody else was doing.
I wanted to fit in, you know what I'm saying,
because I never really did. So the thing for me
was like once I got to middle school, it's like

(08:17):
I'm trying to go out there gamble. I even tried
to sell sell weed at one time I was putting
that shit in the ceiling at my high school. You
know what I'm saying, But it wasn't for me, Like
you know what I'm saying, Like that type of hustle
wasn't for me.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I could hustle. So you know what I'm saying.
As I moved forward, I just hustling in different ways.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, a hustle spirit is a hustle spirit. No matter
what you're selling. You could be selling water shit, you
know what I'm saying. But you say most of the
people you grew up with either dead in jail, do
sometimes you feel like, damn, I just left them for
like you could have saved them, like survivors remorse.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Basically, that's one of my biggest PTSD's. I feel like
everybody from the hood has it, we just don't acknowledge it.
Both of my best friends. I feel like if I
was that, none of that sh would have happened. Ain't
nobody that I've ever lost in my life. I have
been around when it happened, and I always feel like
if I was there, Like when my grandma got sick
to the point where she had to go to the hospital,
me and my daughter was out here in Atlanta at

(09:10):
slew move because she wanted to play with slime. When
my best friend died, I had moved to Charlotte. I
had just got to Charlotte and he had got shot,
you know what I'm saying. And then my other best friend,
I wasn't Aspen, Colorado, he got shot. So I just
feel like, damn if I would have been there, I
could have just changed the situations. But it kind of
go back into that street. So the corporate world. When
one of my friends he just didn't want to change,

(09:33):
and it's like, bro, I gotta go this route. You
know what I'm saying. I'm gonna come back and get you,
but I didn't have the time so I can get them.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So Base's success pulled you, kind of pulled you away
from the people you love, right, So would you trade
your success to go back and help them?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Hell ya? Very single time?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
She not me.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So the thing for me is just like She's success,
success means nothing if you ain't got nobody to share
it with.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Shit, But whoever supposed to be a gonna be there? Yeah,
that's day route, that's they pep. I can't. I can't
got damn be telling God, I don't you know what
I'm saying. God? They say, do you believe that everything
happened for a reason. Everything happened was written or meant,
So who are you to try to change that?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
It was just I would say, more so my grandmother,
like spending more time with her. But my homeboys, yeah,
oh yeah, nah yeah, n we all got somebody, but
now my part is in them. Is like, I wouldn't
be doing what I'm doing now if that shit wouldn't
have happened, because that's what motivates me to do what
I do. So it had to happen.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
So how do you pour back in the hood into
the hood?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Now? So most of the people, like I explained credit
in the way that the hood understands, I understand financial
literacy in the way that they understand it. Like I tell,
like all my partners, that's like, you know, most of
them in the credit space, they flexing their money. They
talking about what they got and how they got this.
But it's like who that helped that don't help nobody. Now,
if you go take that same Ferrari Lamborghinian taking it

(10:54):
in the hood and tell these kids, boom, this is
what I'm doing to get that they gonna listen to you,
But you the nigga that's gonna be scared to go
out there because you feel like they're gonna rob you.
So how you really pouring back into the black dollar? No,
you're taking the black dollars. So for me, it's like,
if they want to learn financial literacy, I'm giving it
to them. That's why we created curriculum, That's why we
created books, because I break it down in a way

(11:14):
for somebody where I come from. For it to make sense,
I gotta tell people, a nigga in the hood don't
care about that shit unless it benefits. Now, So if
I can tell you boom, all right, if you get
five credit cards, you add five people as authorized users.
You know you can charge each one of them three
hundred dollars. You do the math, do that every month,
Tell me how much money you make. Now they're like, oh,
what you hold on? What you're talking about? You know
what I'm saying, see you what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You said, you said. What happened? Though?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
So let's say you got good credit. Right, you get
five credit cards. Let's say they got twenty thousand on
them each. You go tell people in the hood because
you know, when people need houses, people need cars, they
credit bad. They gotta add an authorized user. People sell
these and it's not illegal. You don't got to give
them the car. You freeze it. So if I tell
you it's three hundred, and I get five slots on

(11:59):
my credit card, that's fifteen hundred. Now let's say I
do five credit cards like that. You know what I'm saying,
nine every month or every two months. However, you you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
You knew because of huss how long you leave them
on as an authorized you hustle, are gonna hustle.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You tell them like I put you on for a month,
or I put you on for two or this is
the price for three months. You know what I'm saying.
So you hustling? How you hustling. But at the end
of the day, if I can teach you that, or
I'm like yo, all right, boom. You know all the
scams to you know what I'm saying, get money from banks,
call them credit card sequences, call them loans. You know
certain type of sequences. People is paying for that legally,

(12:36):
they it's called funding. They charged ten percent. So if
I give you fifty thousand, I get five, I get
you a hundred thousand, I get ten.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You know a lot of like you know how interview
dudes who do credit financials and I'll be picking through
to see if they scams. Now, you know what I'm saying.
But I looked at your shit. You graduated at sixteen.
That's discipline. What drove that? So that basically you gotta
be a smart dude, right kind of your kind? I
break the story out of your Yeah, But what I'm
saying by you even being able to start out early

(13:07):
as a kid to know that you want to be
successful or smart or whatever, that kind of make me
be like when they sit out like let me read
up that sh scam niggas. You know what I'm saying,
just being real, I don't respect that. How do you
keep from getting caught up in that mix of playing
on people money like people that you help?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's crazy, I was. I think for me, it's more
so the change that I care about. It's your kids
that I care about, you know what I'm saying. So
I don't never want to do nobody dirty because I
don't want nobody to do me dirty. Like I said,
even though I'm not in the streets. I still live
by all the codes and ethics and all of that shit.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So my uncle always told me, if you play the
game fair, the game might do you wrong sometimes, but
people gonna respect you because you play it fair.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I've never been the type to go go do
somebody dirty, because, like I be telling a lot of them,
like I don't even looking at them, their scammers. I'll
be looking in the back of my head like, Bro,
you play with the money with people I know like
that they coming to get you. Bro. They don't care
if it's a thousand, five thousand, or ten shit, they
gonna take your head. Yeah, niggas belt to ask Like, so,

(14:13):
I ain't about to play with nobody because at the
end of the day, I ain't gonna do nothing nobody.
I don't want them to do to me.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Having a baby at nineteen that was your first child, nineteen, right,
your only child.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I had one at sixteen.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do you feel like it was pressure, purpose or panic
which one was when you when you first had your
first child.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I think it was purpose because it was not expected.
So I think it was needed for me to change
because it was like I still had one foot in,
one foot out. I'm in college crashing out on niggas
like I'm just ready to fight and all kind of
other stuff. And it was like, what you're doing? Like
my GPA was terrible. That's just like my high school GPA.
They both was terrible.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Did you do you feel like that that slowed you?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Basically?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That slows you down? Right?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, it slowed it. Damn so slowed me down. It
really if it wouldn't happen, I think about when my
partners style, I would have crashed out. But my brother
called me. He like, bro, you got a kid, Bro,
what the hell is you talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Do you feel like you had to act grown before
you really were?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hell you? Especially graduating at sixteen? Like cause I literally
had to be on my own. I went off to school,
so I had to be adult early, especially if I
was gonna try to get females like they ain't not
about to deal with no kid.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So let me ask you something you talked about. You
keep talking about the people you lost, right, how did
them passing away shape you as a lamb?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
It made me want to have a purpose in life,
Like I said, the mother's cry was what really got
me is like, damn, I gotta change some of these kids' lives.
I gotta go into these schools and talk to these
kids that you know, most people give up on the
misunderstood because that's what's gonna stir them down the wrong path.
I tell teachers that all the time, your words carry weight,

(15:53):
like you know what I'm saying, Like, people like you know,
stick and sous may break my bones for words and
never hurt me, but words also will be remembered forever.
A motherfucker hurt too, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
So it's like when I think about, you know, me
in high school, when I think about my partners in
high school, it's like a lot of them went the
other way because the teacher told them that you ain't
gonna be shit what you're gonna do, You're gonna work
at McDonald's. And now I tell kids, if a teacher
tell you that and be like, I'm an own father,
now what change the perspective on it?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So, yeah, hey, so there's a lot of pain within
your journey. How did you turn your pain to inspiration
instead of business though, or into purpose?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Like you said, how you turning your pain into purpose
instead of business? Understanding that we have to go through
things to get to where we want to go. And understand,
it's not why me, it's why not me. It was
meant for this to happen in order for me to
be successful. So a lot of people look at life
as damn, this going this, going on, what happened? I
look at it it's like, all right, something special about
to happen because I'm going through the trenches right now,

(16:50):
and anything that breaks you only makes you stronger. Like
if you lift weights, your muscles gotta break down for
them to build. So my mindset has always been it's
something better on the other end, because if I let
it drive me, depression kicks in. And I had the
pressure for a very long time, and it's like now
it's like I'm not gonna let that win. God put
me through this for a reason. I'm still here for
a reason all these people did and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So I just gotta be grateful chosen. Hey, if your
younger self was standing right here with you, what would
he say to you? And what would you say? Then?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think my younger self like, damn, how the hell
you get here? Like how you move like that? And
I think if I had to talk to my younger self,
I would tell myself take a lot more serious, take
relationships more serious, Tell more people you love them. Understand
that time wastes on no man, So don't always say
that you're gonna get to it, that you're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Do it when you can.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean and mean it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
So, yeah, you touched on it earlier when we first
started talking to you. Like the Corporate America and the
Block basically run on the same code. Break that down
a little bit more fun.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So I think Corporate America and a Block break down
in the same codes. Because all of his business, all
of it got something to do hustling, all of it
got something to do with sales. A business don't perform
without sales. The streets don't perform without sales. You can't
be the top dog if you broke, you know what
I'm saying, in any business. So I think when you
even look at it, if you look at it from
a king Pin down to the nicol and dom Diller,

(18:16):
that's Corporate America. You got the CEO and then you
got your nine to five employees. So once you understand
how those systems work, they convert with each other. They're
not too far away from each other. It's just how
having the understanding and the language to know both. What
was your first legit hustle? My first legit legit hustle
was throwing parties. Okay, so when I honestly got fired

(18:39):
from my job when my daughter was born, and I
started throwing parties, going crazy and just blowing the money. Soya,
that was my first legit hustle was thrown parties.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I started a hustling talent and go get them in
telling what else that you took from the streets into
like the boardroom and shit.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
One of the things that a lot of the corporateeople
ain't like. I ain't write no statements. I ain't taking
none of that, Like if somebody got caught at the job,
I ain't see nothing. So like that was one thing,
and then the other thing I would say is if
you don't hustle, your starf So I was a top
salesman when I was working for Veridion. I was the
one in the country, and it was because I had
that mentality like if I don't hustle, I stop. I

(19:20):
got people to feed, So I ain't making no excuses
for myself. I'm gonna go get it and I'm gonna
work extra hours if I got to off the clock
because I gotta get this money.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So do you think corporate America think like people that
come from the hood or whatever lack intelligence.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Heck, kid, me being in all the positions I've ever
been in. When I was actually working a job, people
didn't expect me to get to where I got, But
I could speak their language, knew what they were saying,
I knew what they was trying to do to me.
I knew the corners they were trying to put me
because the same traps. But they definitely try to underballers,
They try to lowballers. They try to make it seem
like it's bigger than us. Nah, I'm educated.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
What's something you had to just to like when you
first got there that once you find it, it just
it really changed everything. You'll change your perspective. Attitude, Yeah,
my attitude. Yeah, that was the biggest thing for me,
was like, I can't talk to these people like that,
Like it don't work that way.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
So I had to tone down my tonality and talk professionally.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
When did you realize, like the word trauma and realized
what it meant to you, or realize that you had
it a PTSD and.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
All that shit. So I've always been known to like
when I go through pain, I work. I work hard,
like I get to hustling. So when my grandmother died,
like none of my friends came to the funeral or
anything like that. So I'm like, I'm angry at everybody.
And I was in a relationship, you know, we end
up breaking up like and like everything just went crashing

(20:46):
down me and my daughter got into it cause she
was like she on like my attitude, so like my
world went apart and I'm like, why am I so angry?
And I had to realize I was burnt out, like
life did that to me. And it was like damn,
like this is why cause you And then my home
girl she told me some real shit. She was like,
you know you never heal from your homeboys, And I'm like, huh,
And I never thought about it because when they die,

(21:07):
I'm the older I'm the older homeboys. So my first
homeboy died, we carrying the castle. I'm the one making
everybody laugh because you know what I'm saying. These young niggas,
so if they see me crack. They cracked. So you
know what I'm saying, I'm telling niggas to keep it together.
And my other part of died. You know, I'm still
looking at some of them like, Yo, y'all gonna be good. Y'all,
y'all keep doing your thing. I never had time to grieve.
I didn't cry at neither funeral because y'all might look

(21:30):
my way and y'all might break down.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I gotta be the strength.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah. So, once my grandmother died, I realized, like, I
ain't never really deal with my traumas.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Lose your grandma? How did that reveal you?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Though? It made me change who I was, and it
made me want to be the person that she always
wanted me to be. So I really took six months
away from my business. I didn't do nothing in it,
and I just went on a healing journey. And then
it made me really realize, like, all right, it's a
lot of things that I can do differently. So it
changed my whole perspective of life.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I know, one thing, out the streets, right, we forever
in survivor's mode, because when I was in the streets,
I always felt as though I was running out of time,
I have a Russian Russian Russian Russian act. But as
as I fast forward and got a little knowledge, I
realized that was anxiety. I not knew that. I didn't
know that at the time. You know what I'm saying,
You know how you always Russian like come on, come on,
come on, come on, like if you don't want to

(22:20):
sit in one spot or some of heim like you,
I should have got hell on.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So that just had you Russian.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Do you think survival survival mode exists in like corporate world?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, most definitely, because the thing about the corporate world
is if you're trying to move up, you gotta make
sure that you're moving quick. So when that position opened up,
you gotta be first in line. So you always in
that mode where I gotta go at y'all, like I
gotta go hard like every day, I gotta keep going.
I gotta grind because my opportunity may exist. So yeah,
it's definitely there. What's some shit you do to hell?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Like? What healing looked like for you?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Is it therapy, prayer, silence?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
What's your sign? First of all, I'm a virgo. Okay,
yeah I figure that real shit. But what you know,
I'm heaving on what I'm saying. People you're saying I'm crazy,
but I'm heavy on the mother person what it looked
like for you, though.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Healing is taking the time to actually learn the lessons
that you that you had to learn when you took
a loss. So for me, healing is understanding what should
I learn from this, what should I take from it?
So taking some time to sit back and look at stuff.
A lot of people tell you to always take the
first step forward, but I tell people sometimes you got
to take a step back to figure out where you're going.
What's some shit you do to protect your piece, and

(23:31):
like what's some of your triggers. So right now, to
protect my peace, I don't talk to people that ain't
talking money. I ain't gonna lie. If you ain't talking
money or something that benefit me, I ain't trying to
hear it. So I call it withdraws and the positive,
and I teach this when I go speak. If they
were drawn from you, you know what I'm saying, You
don't need me your life. Only get around people that
deposit in your life. So to protect my piece, it's like,

(23:51):
if you're talking about some crazy stuff, I ain't trying
to hear it. Bro, I ain't trying to hear nothing
about you fighting or beefing with this person or your
baby mama tripping. Hey, Brian, got time for it. So
I just separate myself from people that ain't talking about
nothing beneficial.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So what's the business that you that you built with
baby girl?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
What's her name? Firs of all, my daughter name is Katie.
So we build a business called Bonding through Business where
we teach parents how to build profitable businesses with their
children that I have in any type of business idea,
or if they do have a business, how to incorporate
your children into the business.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Eleven And when y'all start this, she's like five, okay,
so she understands the business.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Oh yeah, she's big ceo hoop and shit like yeah,
she don't play, she don't play about it. So yeah,
oh yeah. So who do you learn from to help
teach her? My oldest brother that's one of the main people.
And then just different mentors. I got different people that
I'm close to that has really like broken down things

(24:49):
for me. I'm a big sponge. So if I can
learn from somebody, I'm gonna learn. And then I just
replicate whatever I learned back to people.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's kind of hard for me to like do business
with my family, though, do you think and pull y'all closer,
bring y'all apart?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think if you do it right, it brings you
closer because you got to put them in a position
that benefits them. A lot of us want to put
our family in whatever they say they want to do.
But what are you good at? What can I put
you in? It's gonna actually bring happiness out of you.
So when we teach it, we teach them to focus
on things that their kids are good at. So for instance,
something simple like if you incorporate your kid into your marketing,
you know, these kids know TikTok better than anybody. They

(25:26):
can do a TikTok dance with your item. Men, you
know what I'm saying, Or just the fact of they
may know certain things that you don't know. They may
be more creative than you. So you gotta find a
place in the business that makes sense for the child.
So for instance, my daughter, when we created our books,
she did all the she made her own character. Because
it's called a lid to restore, which is like an
off brand door to explore and she wanted like certain

(25:47):
games in the back that taught financially. So we had
crossword puzzles, all kind of different things. And then when
we got an Airbnb, I never will forget it because
I got the house. She thought it was our house.
She's like, yeah, Daddy, you know we got a house.
I'm gonna decorate my room. She like, I want to
board wall. I'm like, what the hell, I ain't getting
you on chalkboard wall. Then I thought about it. I'm like,
people mess up walls in a house. You get chalkboard paint,

(26:09):
you can wipe it off, so it's saved you from
always having to repaint. So it's just sometimes just talking
with your children. And another thing is the disassessment. On
a lot of people don't use the disassessment, which is
a personality test. Your kids sometimes don't have the same
personality or your family members. So if you are dominant,
so it's dominant, influential, strategic, conscious, that's what that's how

(26:29):
I use it. So if I'm a dominant person, I'm
gonna execute right. But a strategic and conscious person they're
more timid. They want instructions and stuff like that. So
if I'm a dominant person. I'm like, go do this,
this and this and this. I lost them. But if
I go and let's say I want to do it
like that, I go to chat GBT, say what I want,
tell it to make it in a word document. Now
I give it to that person. Now they're not as
stress and they can execute on the job.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
I think. I think being being a good boss is,
like you said, actually understanding and being able to see
people purpose before they do, like or see what they're
good at. Okay, nah, she good at talking, So we're
gonna let you talk.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
You know what I'm saying. You ain't ain't good at
doing this. You know what I'm saying alone, because we
only setting ourselves up for failure. And then you mad
at him, then you mad at them. This person ain't
even equipped for that. That's what I've been doing lately. Man.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Just see okay, nah for him your in fact.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
So let me see why I say, Well, man, I
was about to ask you one more thing about your
building to bus with your daughter? So what about when
she gets some wrong, when she when it's something wrong
or she that wrong?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
How do you handle that? That's the difficult part before
I do it, because I'm very blunt. I asked my
mama how to handle it because my daughter, she we
let her express herself. So if I say something she
don't like, she gonna pop it back. Well, daddy, you
should have taught me that that's your fault, Like you
know what I'm saying. So she do something wrong, I
just let her know, like, Okay, you gotta look at

(27:56):
it from what's next, because like how my uncle always
taught me when I used to do stuff, here's the
pros and here's the concert. What you do, you get
to make those decisions, and this is how you know
it affects you. So when she does something wrong, it's like,
all right, ka, this is what happened. But if you
would have done this, this could have changed that. Why
didn't you do that?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I put that accountability back on her. What has
she indirectly taught you? Because I learned a lot, even
my grand baby they one and two and three and
five and.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Said, ship patience, having the right attitude, giving people grace.
I'm quick to fire you if you ain't working right, Hey,
you gotta go, Kateen. It'll be like, no, Daddy, we
didn't teach some right, give them some time, so patients
and understanding. She really got more of a c your
mom set to me, honestly, you and your mom studio No, no,
why so I had a I ain't even gonna go

(28:48):
down that rabbit hole because she ain't about to kill me.
But we was cool in college and then we tried it,
you know, one last time. It wasn't for us. So
like we cool, like were very cordial. Like I think
I got blessed with my baby mama. She ain't asking
for no money, she ain't tripping out, she ain't busting
the windows like I get girlfriends. My baby mama treated
more like a girlfriend than me. She like, yeah, she

(29:09):
be taking Katie, let her do this. Damn you lost
a good one like she'd be on that type time.
So that's just not a great friendship.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah. The brand is so the brand is family forever.
Family's meaning behind that. I know what it means, But
what's the meaning behind that to you?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
So family is forever?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
For me?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Is money? Violence of death can't separate family because family
is always forever. If you look at your family like that,
none of that can separate you. The thing in the
world that separates a lot of people is money and death.
You know what I'm saying. When somebody died, family separate.
When money get involved, family separate. But if you real family,
y'all really live by that, y'all family. Even if y'all
ain't talking to each other, that's still my family. I'm

(29:47):
gonna still love you. I might love you from a distance,
but I'm always here. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Do you do you consider everybody that's related to you
as family?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Hell no?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
You needing?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Hell no?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
We had the same little still feel like fuck it.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Some of my family ops right now if I catch on,
you know what I'm saying. What made them up a lot?
There's a lot of situations that happen, like especially when
my pops came home. It's just certain things happened that
when posed to happen. And you know, I stay on
my side, y'all stay on y'all side. Ain't no beef,
but we can make it that if you want to
take it. Yeh, you know what I'm saying. But I'm
just but nah, like I'm just in my lane day

(30:23):
in a lane.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hey, in this internet era, how do you how do
you stay true to what you're doing instead of trying
to you know, how we want to veer off. Let's
try some shit like how you stay on your path?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Because who I'm doing it for? It's for these kids.
It ain't for me, Like I ain't the type of
person that I got a flex on the ground, Like
I'm the type of person I'd rather see y'all flecks.
I rather see y'all winning and this shit. Like even
going back to when you ask me about me graduating
at sixteen, I tell kids all the time, you don't
like school, Get out there, bitch early. That's why I
did it. I ain't do it because I'm like, shit,
life is going I'm tired of this ship. Give me

(30:56):
a body here out yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I did
some summer's classes. Yeah, give me a boty here.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So how is it like? And I need to plug
on these books?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Too good?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You don't wrote what twelve? You don't let them their twelve?
Financial literacyes? Three? Was that curriculum? And four development books?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
We go once we start wing, we just put them
in series.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh okay, so how many how many you plan on
doing for you? For you check out.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
As many as the world needs, you know, what I'm
saying because the financial literacy was the start for us,
because generational wealth don't go past the second generation. But
if you include your family in generational wealth, you create traditions.
Traditions last forever. So and then the self development was
after my grandma died that would burn out. So I'm
telling people how to heal. So it's whatever I go through,
and I feel like it's beneficial to people, all right,

(31:46):
it which one mean the most to you? That's tough, bro,
because against my daughter and my grandma. Right now, it's
the healing books because so many people are going through
traumas and they trauma dumping into their kids. Okay, So
I feel like, you know, for instance, for me, when
my daughter was born, because my father's based off how

(32:07):
he lived, I was always told, like Nigga's out to
get you. You better be careful where you go, especially
if you're in Virginia. So when my daughter got raised,
I'm like, people don't like him, people don't like me.
You gotta get a cor intent set. You gotta do this,
you gotta do that. I'm like, Yo, she don't even
live like you. She live in the suburbs. Like what
are you doing like, and I realized, like a lot
of the things that we go through, we implanting in
ours children that they may not even deal with it.

(32:28):
Now you're putting something in their head. Then they ain't
ever had the face. Now they're expecting that to happen.
So we trauma dumping our children. So in order to yeah,
so in order to actually take care of our children
and love our children properly, we first got to heal
and learn how to love ourselves. Because how can you
love somebody else if you ain't ever learn how to
love you? Did you ever doubt yourself? A long way
on your journey? Hellya all the time? Still sometimes like

(32:51):
I haven't poster syndrome sometimes in my mind because it's
like certain levels, you know what I'm saying, Because once
you get at certain levels, people will do whatever you say.
You know, I'm saying, Like you bank, if you go
on the internet right now, like hey man, y'all need
you got two or three of them? That's gonna be like,
let me go do that. And I don't ever want
to tell people wrong. Sometimes I get scared, it's like
can I handle this? Or everywhere I go people asking

(33:13):
for pitches and stuff like that because I'm I'm converted,
but I know me at the same time, like, bro,
I ain't even move get the get the fuck on, man,
like I'm with my girl, Like I'm not about to
take no picture with you, So I be worried. Sometimes
it's like if I get too famous, can I handle
what comes with it?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
So I deal with a position, it's gonna you can
have it because at the end of the day, you
and your purpose. Yeah, I ain't can't. I don't feel
like nothing can really come to you if your heart's
sit in the right place. None fucked up.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yere. That's just how I feel.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
So you don't feel like you got to figure it
out at this point?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah? Successful for me? Yeah yeah, because it's all about systems.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
What part you don't feel like you gotta figured out?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think the part that I feel like I don't
got figured out is patience, having real patience and understanding,
like you know, it's meant for me, I think honestly.
To be honest, I'm gonna go deepen in it and
I'm gonna keep it a band. I'm a big giver.
So it's like for me, I teach, t t teach

(34:23):
and I never be like, you know what I'm saying
because I don't be feeling right. But like a lot
of my you know, mentors and stuff like that, like, bro,
you gotta charge for your time.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
You gotta get your money.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
But I be like, man, somebody be like man, I
ain't gotta you know what I'm saying. For credit payer,
I'll be like, all right, give me this. Or if
they won't mentorship, all right, just give me this. Like
I spent a lot of time with my mentees and
stuff like if I if I like, let's say I
do your credit, I'm gonna teach you how to do
credit while we're doing it. If I do funding for you,
teach you how to do funding. If I do financial
literacy or burning, I'm gonna teach you. I got you,

(34:52):
I need, I got you. I put your game. That
means you.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Ve ya I come to Houston.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah that shit easy word, it is right, I break it.
I'm gonna keep you this simple. Go ahead, all right,
people be like, yeah, I can get you one hundred,
three hundred, nigga, if you got a seven hundred credit
score and you and you ain't got no derogatories and
shit on your credit you was gonna get it anyway.
You might not get the amount that I was gonna
get you, but you're gonna get something. And the thing
that people don't understand is, let's say you don't get

(35:23):
what they can get you, you can call in and
reconsider it. But here's the other thing about funding. They
be putting all these different funding plays on TikTok and Instagram.
Literally get a pin map out. You ain't even gotta
go to bank, branch located or none of them. Go
to Google, type in banks and credit unis around your area,
call each one of them. Hey, you know what I'm saying.

(35:43):
I'm just trying to get to know you guys. So
I tell people credit and funning is like dating, but
it's a poly relationship. So what I mean by that
is I'm gonna go to all these different banks and
I'm gonna see how you benefit me. So a lot
of us going to banks, and this is why these
people getting paid what they get paid, Because you're going
to the bank asks of for money. You can't go
in there like that. If I'm going to Chase, I'm like, yeah,

(36:04):
I just left Welles Swaga. I don't like how they
treat me. What can you do now? They telling me
what they got? Yeah, cause it's like, man, I ain't hey,
I ain't even trying to I ain't about to bank
with y'all yet. I got questions. Now you don't look
like a scammer. Now you don't look this certain way.
So I'm going to all these banks starting relationships now,
or who you pull because they gonna tell you, oh,

(36:24):
yeah we pulled from this. If you got that, you good?
You make this you good? They breaking down. Shit, they
ain't even supposed to be breaking down because they trying
to win you because they get commissions on what they sell.
So boom, you go, put on the out all the
credit unised near me, Go go have a conversation, go
sit in there, you figure out what what credit bureaus
they pulled from, how much they give, and then you
just literally you can chat GBT figure out certain amounts,

(36:45):
or go to the little help me credit dot com
thing and figure out what they're giving people.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
They I don't want to give me ship though, pull
my credit up down.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
But see the thing, that's why you got to build
a relationship. Like I tell people, you can't just go
to a shorty. You might get somewhere you're like, yeah,
I just want to fuck. They gonna be all right,
But most of them like hell no, who is you?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, damn't want to fuck. Some are trying to get
straight to the money. What you'll go nah, So you
gotta go about it one. I don't you know any
girl want the man that they can't really get if
you ain't paying no attention. Now they want your attention.
So you do the same thing with the banks.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I ain't really Oh damn, mister Anthony, you know you
ain't came in a week. We just want to see
if you may be still interested. Then I hit you with, yeah,
Wells Fargo gave me twenty five? Can you match that.
They don't know if Wells Fargo gave me twenty five
till they pull the credit. But the underwriter gotta pull it.
So I tell people go to google mouts, find these banks,
build relationships, have a conversation. Credit unions are going to

(37:38):
give you more money than banks because credit unis nine
times to ten. The underwriter is either in the room
are somewhere close because credit unions are reagion based. So
it's a bunch of credit unis in Atlanta that's just
for Atlanta. So instead of you trying to go run
all these funny plays, everybody, give me a guess what
the same plays that you're running on the internet. Guess
who else watching that? The motherfuckers that work at the bank.
So them plays become harder. But if you focus on

(37:58):
the little players that don't nobody really know about, because
they the banks in your area, they gonna work with you.
And the thing about credit unis is they want to grow.
In order for them to grow, they got to grow
with the businesses that's in the area. So you carry
yourself in that way, so fun it really ain't hard
because nine times agen if you already got good credit
and all these different things that they telling you you
was gonna get some bread anyway.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Hmm, I'm goin to see soon we get out of
my mob and show you my whole shit got you
to do?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Hey, what you think the biggest financial myth that's killing
our community?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
That debt is bad? A lot of us say that
dead is bad, like you know, like our older generations
were telling us, don't get credit cards. That's bad. You messing.
Here's a thing without credit. You can't really get much.
I tell people all the time. Cash is king, but
credit is queen. A king is nothing without his queen.
So how I look at it is understanding that the

(38:49):
riches are the rich.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
They in debt.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That's that's how they make their money. So in order
to understand, like why would I go spend my last
dollar to start this business when most businesses fail in
the first three years. When I can go to this,
ain't get twenty thousand, start my business. Only use ten
thousand and it go flip that ten thousand, give them
their money back, tell them I need more now.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I can't wait. I can't wait. The older nigga mane,
she let me old you. Yeah, that define wealth beyond
money though to you, happiness in peace, being able to
live your life however you want.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
To correct.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Sharing this Ted talk, stayed with your another. How to
that feel?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Amazing? Brother? And then realizing, like I'm going through ted talks,
I don't see no like black. You know what I'm saying, Father,
daughter duo going at it, and it's like being able
to do that with my daughter at our young age.
It's like, no matter what she's doing life, she just
made history. It's adults that can't even get on the
ted X sage. So being able to put her in
positions where it could change her life forever, because I
tell her all the time when I die, the most

(39:47):
that a lot of people do when people die is
go google them, go search them. Now that you got
these twelve bucks, now that you got this Ted talk,
I'm able to create a wealth for you for the
rest of your life. As soon as I leave this world,
me too, because I always think about this.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
You know, grief. We deal with grief in different ways.
And my brother Dave, I feel like he got a
chance to see me transitioning before he left. You know
what I'm saying. Do you think your grandma and your
friends all him they got a chance to see like,
oh nah, he going in the right way.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yes, I think with my friends, both of my friends,
it was me corporate America when my grandma was an entrepreneurship,
and they really got to see a different side of
me that It's like, not little Dougie, not Chipmunk from
the gap, this is Anthony, this is mister six ways.
Like my grandma. She used to come, I'm kid you
not bank because I used to drop money off to

(40:37):
my grandma. And you know with the funding, you get
a bag off of it. So I remember I dropped
twenty thousand. She said, you know, if he's doing something
illegal in them streets, is gonna break my heart. Baby,
I don't want you doing that stuff while you spending
so much money. Because she really thought I was doing
something illegal. So when she got to finally see it,
she's like, oh, and then she you know, she cracked
it up. Why all them kids going up you acting
me for an autograph? Who you think you is?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
For her to see that, and the smile on her
face meant the world to me.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, you can remember that same smile right now, right
what you think she would say right now to you?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Keep going? Stopped doubting yourself.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
You got this When you hear legacy, What come to
your mind?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
My daughter off real I have no legacy whatever, because
what she doing is earth is gonna determine what me
and her mom instilled in me.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
What promise does you make to yourself to keep you motivated?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I won't go backwards, I won't go to the streets.
And if I could change one child's life, I did
my purpose on this world. It's to stop a child
from making their mother cry again. You know what I'm saying,
Like that thing sticks with me, just hearing a mother buckle,
because you know when a mother lose they son, like
they pass out. It's all kind of noises that you
hear that you can't never get out your head. So

(41:48):
it's like, that's when I want to give up. I'm like, man,
is somebody child out there that's gonna need me? Or
is somebody that's a parent that's about to put trauma
into their child because they not heal. I gotta get
these kids a different way, because these kids in the
hood ain't nobody talking to right now. You know what
I'm saying. Everybody talking about you fifty thousand, a hundred thousand,
You could do the same thing. You telling these people

(42:11):
to go chase one hundred thousand dollars. But at the
end of the day, when they go chase one hundred
thousand dollars, how much time is they spending with their children?
Because our children don't care about the money we make.
They care about the memories we create. Fact, So when
people be talking about that, I tell people all the time,
stop buying your kids everything you've ever had start teach
them everything you didn't know, Chutch.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, so them facts. What's a full circle moment right
now that you're still chasing.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Hmm. I think a full circle moment for me that
I'm still chasing is being able to get a position
where I can retire my mama. That's the only thing
I want to do. My pops, he good, you know
what I'm saying, you did twenty six years. You need
to go hustle a little bit. Shit. I miss days
with your gang like you do your hell. On the

(43:00):
other side, well, my mama, like you know what I'm saying,
she struggled with three kids. Even though my grandma raised
me and we ain't had the best relationship. My mama
did everything she could for us, and she's not getting
no younger, so I couldn't really well, my grandma's already retired.
But you know what I'm saying. I want to get
my mama the same opportunities I gave my grandmother, So
that moment is to be able to be like, man,
you ain't gotta do shit no more. I got you.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, if you could just talk directly to a young kid,
because you keep speaking about kids like you want to
make sure the youth, but that's all we got basically
after us is them. What's something that you tell somebody
who trying to find theyselves or fix theyself?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
First things, firstus, you don't gotta fit in. And then
the second part that I tell them is the same
kids that's complaining and picking at you and bullying you,
if the same kids that's gonna be askually for a job,
keep them keep the course and understand that like that
route ain't got to be your route, you know what
I'm saying. The best thing you can do if you
if you consider yourself gangster gangsters, taking care of your

(43:56):
family gangsters, making sure that your mama and your civil
don't want for shit, you know what I'm saying. So
at the end of the day, I understand that you
want to live this certain type of lifestyle, but you
don't got to the way the world is right now,
it's so many opportunities for these kids to make money.
Twitch you know what I'm saying, TikTok. You know, it's
so many different ways where these kids can really get
a hustle on fact, and so my thing is telling

(44:17):
these kids, like, understand this you doing these dumb things
right now. The only thing that's guaranteed is jail or death.
And guess what you ended up on a T shirt
both ways and all people don't talk about how they
got you, but you're gonna be alone by yourself.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Facts, Wow them facts. That's a great one. Hey, what
about an adult man. We ain't gonna speak to the women.
A man that feel like who done gave up? What
would you tell him if he's about to give up?
Not he doesn't already give up. He on the verge
of giving up.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
A man that's about to give up, for instance, I
would tell a man that's about to give up, is
understand your purpose is bigger than what you're going through.
Life may be coming at you full speed, but understand
that life is only coming at you full speaker. It's
trying to give you a lesson. It's trying to teach
you something. The moment you learned that lesson the moment
everything changes. But also the other thing that I tell

(45:07):
a man it's about to give up on itself is
there's somebody out there that you don't know that support
and love you. But a lot of times we look
at it front of people that we're around, But the
people that really know you is the people that you
don't even know, that's constantly watching you and constantly doing
certain things. And even though you might want to give up,
it's gonna hurt somebody else, keep going because your life

(45:29):
matters and you have a purpose here. Correct.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Hey, it's crazy because it's just certain shit. Is this
designed to throw us off? This morning, I went downstairs
to pick up my water shoutside though t Magi brought
me a couple of cases of water now, and I
went to get the water. I dropped my keys in
the elevator, right, God damn through the ship truck, keys
on their apartment, key, the boat apartments. The God damns

(45:53):
everything on the mother for me. But as soon as
I dropped them, if my first initia would be like
fuck studd, get what I knew? Bro, every time, thank God,
I thank god. This is the mishap because I see
niggas going through mishaps. I don't won't they mishap? And
this is miss Tell them court, tell them four hundred

(46:14):
whatever it gonna be. Man, come on and fix this ship.
Get my keys and we'll move past that. I think,
I think what our problem is is black men, black
people whoever. We dwell too much. Yeah, we dwelled on
ship too much. We hold ship too close to our
heart instead of looking at this ship like everything having
for a reason. You know what I'm saying, Ship, I

(46:34):
probably dropped them keys because I need to spin them
for I don't know why the fuck I dropped them,
but it is what it is. Thank you God.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Acts And I tell people all the time. People focus
more on the problem in the solution. That's why they
can't get past it. Facts, What does?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
What does?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
What does perspective mean to you? The word, your outlook,
how you looking at life, and the way you look
at things. Either you got a positive mindset or you
got a negative one, so you perspective is everything. Like
I tell people all the time, your situation is not
your destination and your environment it's not your reality. You
get to choose all of that. You could be in
a certain environment and in your heir you somewhere else,

(47:12):
So your environment don't have to be reality. Even if
you're in a room full of roaches and rats. You
might be doing all this, but in your head, you
know where you want to go, So that's your perspective.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Bars Nah no, that's correct. Let me ask you one
more thing. Do you feel as if what you think
is who you are? Like what you think comes to
you like like I would listening to let me see,
I was just about to put it up. I was
listening to this dude the other day, right, uh huh,
let me find this shit all right? The book was, well,
it's not even a book, it's a Napoleon. Hell yeah,

(47:42):
your track, what you focus on, it's on YouTube, Like
he got a lot of difference on YouTube. Different shit
looks like this. Yeah, I know, like them like an
our our conversation.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
About Yeah, I'll be saying that to my assistants every day.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yes, what exactly what he was saying was, bro, whatever
you play in your mind is what is what your
life gonna be. Like you can plant negative shit, negative
shit gonna come you playing positive shit, and poli shit
gonna come. So that's what I've been on. I've been
on that. But he just you're confirmed it, like yeah,
like just saying if you think of some negative shit,
cause we all get those thoughts, you gotta counter rebut

(48:15):
them off for it. Like, man, why you thinking about
the dumb man and ship mate? You know, what I'm saying,
like some shit happen to somebody else and you'll place
yourself in them shoes. Hell yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like something having to somebody else, people or something you
be like, they don't happen to mean why has she
been thinking like that?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Facts?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I think your mind, Your mind cur rates your thoughts,
your life, and your thoughts that shit curates your life.
I saw him your journey up in one word, blessed.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And the reason I say blessed is because everything I
went through had to get me to where I'm at.
And so if anything changes, like I tell peop all
the time, I don't live with no regrets because if
I live with regrets, that means anything in my life
could have got altered. And if things got altered, what
I be sitting there, sitting in this room with you
right now. So I'm blessed or everything that has ever
happened to me?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Real ship?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Nah man?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
So you say we can feed my credit when we.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Can do?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Give us give us some game before we get out
of there. Bro, you gave us some game on that.
You gotta date them banks, you're right.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Here, you gotta date them? What kind of game you
want me to give.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Because whatever your heart, Yeah, okay, give.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Us enough of I like teaching. One of the things
I can give people is how simple and creative anything
can make you money. So I tell people at the time,
anything that you like doing can become a business. Another
thing is matter of fact, this is what I'm gonna
because we talking about them kids bumped that parents hold.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I like that. You just said anything, anything you enjoy
can become a business.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, I'm about to break it down so everybody knows
about nil.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah's the thing. The first thing you should do as
soon as you have a child is go by LLC
with they name, create a domain with the so www
whatever they name is create an LLC around that create
books throughout their lives. So the first book could be
them first learning how to read, first learning how to walk.
Put that on Amazon. It costs you nothing. You know
what I'm saying, Go on chat GBT, get it documented

(50:15):
created the proper way. Then another thing is break down
every lesson that you've learned, as crazy as that sound,
because we should journal because that's how we know if
we're healing. Create all of this stuff turning into a book.
This is something that you can pass from generation to
generation so that the family still understands where you come from,
where you start it from, and how you're going. Another

(50:36):
aspect of that is understanding that know which credit cards
to add your kids as authorized users, because you want
to add them as authorized users at a very young age,
so that way, when they're turned eighteen, you can build
their credit. Now I'm gonna give you another piece of game.
Here's the thing. When kids go off to school, one
of the first things that kids go to is a dormitory. Right,
so a dormitory can be ranging from three thousand and

(50:57):
four thousand. Hell, these days they probably be five six
thousand or some Right, you got your child with a
good credit, put them as a co signer on a
house at the age of eighteen, because both of y'all
got good credit. Get a three bedroom house the same
amount of money that these kids are paying for room
and board. Rent out those other two rooms to other
kids at that school. Now your child's making passive income.

(51:19):
Here's the other thing. Now you put your kid in
that house, they have certain little events, watch parties, you
know what I'm saying, Study nights, have people come to
their house each person pay ten dollars, your kid go
by one hundred dollars a worth of food. But they
got a one hundred people in the ten dollars, that's
a thousand, or you might not want that many people
in your house. That's two hundred. Now you just made
a hundred off of them. So now you're covering food

(51:40):
for the money. Now that you done created this house,
and you done created this thing inside of this house.
After the four years of your kid graduating, guess what,
most kids don't stay in the area. So now either
you can rent the house out as an airbnb or
you can sell it. I would recommend selling it. One
of the reasons I recommend selling it is now one
thing about properties, they ain't making no more land. So
now you sell the house. Guess what if your if

(52:01):
your child has student loans or anything like that. Now
that money covers the student loans. Now your kid come
out of school debt free and a solar house, and
they're all on their credit and they made money while
they was in.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
School, So you're just setting them up. Basically, set them up.
You're gonna set them up. Nah, that's the game. Give
us some more, Give us, give us some over.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
So another thing is a lot of people don't understand
like Discover has a student card, so they have an
honor system for your kids. So make sure you get
your kids a student Discover card when they go off
to college. Every semester they do what they call good grades.
So you just got to put in your GPA. If
y'all catch what I'm saying, they give you a twenty
five dollar credit. You know what I'm saying, So that
way it covers your kids. Also, another thing is you

(52:42):
can do the book thing with piece hood. So if
you like Piece and your kids like Pieces, you could
create where they read books over the summer to make
sure that your kids are reading and then y'all getting
free pieces. So my daughter reseaid at a twelfth grade
level and she's eleven, you know what I'm saying. So
my daughter's intellectual. So you say things you are learning,
you have to implement and teach your kids the same
way we learn. You know, don't call the pot kettle

(53:05):
black or whatever, you know what I'm saying, or never
tell the right hand with the left hand doing. You
can do the same thing with credit and stuff like that.
So when I break this stuff down, to people. Y'all
gotta understand that it gotta make sense to the person
you're telling to. If it don't benefit them or makes sense,
then it's not gonna make sense. I'll break down one
of our books. One of our books right now is
called leean Investment Factor. What is that based off Daveing Busses?
Because what do you do when you go to daving Busses?

(53:27):
You play games? And the base off of the game
that you play, depending on how much you win, you
get a prize. Guess what investment is. You put your
money into something, you invest it, you make money from it,
and you buy things that you want pass of income.
So breaking down these different strategies and understanding that you
know these things open doors that you may not understand
or you may not know. Another thing is when y'all

(53:48):
kids are going to college, make sure that you're actually
sitting down with them breaking down their majors, letting them
know what's including in this major, what type of classes
they gotta take. Because if you don't know they why
how can you expect to know anything? And those those
that ain't alationship, I'm gonna give y'all some game. One
of the best things a man can do with a
woman or ladies, y'all shoud start asking these men to
do it. I know y'all be talking about you don't
eat here and you won't do this. A vision board.

(54:10):
Y'all sit down together and do a vision board. You
do your vision board, he do his. Y'all don't actually
talk about what's on it after y'all doing. Now, ladies,
y'all can tell if he want kids, if he got ambitious,
what his goals are in life. Now, fellas, you know
what her goals and ambitions are in life. So now
y'all can understand each other better. But also you're setting
strategic goals for yourself. And like I tell people, in

(54:31):
order to make a vision board come true, a dream
can only become a goal when you got a strategy
behind it. So put a strategy behind what you're doing
and why. So these are just a few little different
things that you can do. And then on the credit end,
because I know bank want to know you know these
fundaments like that, here's the thing. Build a relationships with
the right banks. Understand what banks actually care about you

(54:53):
and what banks don't. Here's the thing, banks really don't
care about you? Because they got eight hundred numbers. So
the thing is go to these credit unions. And here's
another thing about the funding that people be talking about,
the eight hundred numbers of po boxes. Listen our word
for Rising. If you had an eight hundred number and
not saying that y'all can't use eight hundred numbers to
get funded. Here's the thing I would recommend getting a
regular number. And this is why our work for Rising

(55:15):
as a business account manager. That means we was touching
accounts with anywhere from ten to a hundred employees. You
had a eight hundre number, we weren't calling you because
why because I'm not going through prompts to get to nobody.
So if I gotta see that and then you're done.
Is in rad Street you say you got three employees,
what you got a eight hundred number for? It don't
even make sense. Now you look like a scount. So

(55:35):
make the stuff makes sense. You can get a regular
phone number. It's called one talk with Rising. I think
ten twenty thirty dollars a money and that's a regular
phone number. So just a little small things like that.
You don't have to trust all these girls. But what
you want to do is when you're studying and learning
from these entrepreneurs and trying to figure out what mentor
to go through. If you actually pay attention, cross reference
they videos with somebody else videos and see if they're

(55:56):
saying the same thing. That's one of the best ways
to understand if somebody tell you the right thing and
then here's the other thing. A lot of these people
that's giving you game in this mentorship. If you go
on that YouTube channel, they whole mentorship is just broken
into segments. You just got an all the piece together
and now you got their whole course for free. I
know y'all gonna hate me for that, but that's the game.
So I ain't gotta pay for your course. If I
can go through these different segments, I may not know everything,

(56:17):
but I know enough to get started. So if you
ain't got no money, put yourself in position so you
can get started. And this is the last thing I
want to tell people, because I keep hearing these mentors
and these people in my space saying it, Hey, if
you ain't making twenty thousand dollars, you ain't making thirty
thousand dollars. You ain't doing that. First of all, Humble yourself.
The reason why I tell you to humble yourself is
because you never know when it can be taken away

(56:38):
from you. Some people don't need twenty and thirty thousand
dollars a month to be happy. Some people can make
eighty thousand a month, I mean eighty thousand a year
and be completely happy because their family is happy, they
spending time with their kids. Everything is there. So when
these people are showing you the cars to close and
all of these these cars and houses, they have no substance.
They still trying to prove theirselves to you while you

(56:58):
trying to be like them. They want to impress you.
So who's the one really dealing with something internally? You
don't have to be like nobody else, be yourself. And
if you yourself, you will be able to be more
happy and be authentic. Because the moment you start chasing
other people, the moment you stop chasing your own dreams.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Nigga, your dream, your first dream, Cantry. You are preacher,
you just preaching this financial literacy. But that shit you
said about the relationship, I think y'all need to take
heed to that because I got a lot of people
watching my shit. That's that's in relationships and women that
be first date should be a vision board.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, first date, first couple.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Of dates, if y'all getting serious, should be a vision board.
And now you know what you're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, now it's in a real conversation. Now you can
see if she an airhead or not. Because a lot
of dudes don't want to talk about it. A lot
of these women that y'all like, oh, they got this,
what's between their legs? Ain't got nothing else for you?
As soon as you lose all your money or you wondering.
Matter of fact, you're wondering why she's cheating on you.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
She never was with you for the right reasons because
you throwing money at her all the time. Like dudes
be like, oh, I don't go fifty fifty, I pay
for everything. Another thing. The moment you say that you're
paying for everything one hundred percent, guess what if you
pass away? Now she gotta find another man to take
care of her, because she never took care of herself.
So you set your wife up for failure or your girlfriend.
So I'm gonna put you in position where I'm gonna
give you money, but I'm also teach you how to invest.

(58:14):
I can't say that I ain't gonna gonna get my
homeboys money. But I'm just study blowing money on my
girl and she ain't bringing nothing back to the table.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
You a dummy, nah, man, I appreciate. I think what
we need to do, Bro, I need to get with you,
my dog schnid. I got a couple other dude that's
really smart, and they y'all look like us. You get
what I'm saying. Let's try to Let's do something live, man,
Let's let's invite a couple of people. Let's do some
live to teach these people. Man, I'm gonna learn it
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
That's why I was riding your niggas because I'll be
trying to pick up two as we go. Yeah, I
know what I know, but I don't know what you know.
If that makes sense, fast and we can all learn
from each other.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
In fact, I tell people that all the time, Like now,
I never wanted to sit at nobody else table, and
I never want nobody to sit at my table, because
if we sit at each other's tables, that mean I'm
taking a plate off your plate. Where if I bring
a plate, you bring a plate. These other people bring
a plate. Now we got a buffet.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Real shit all you can eat, damn right and tell
them for well to find you to tap in.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
With you man, Instagram, TikTok YouTube, mister six ways, Mr
Dot the number six ways?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
What that means stand for six way with us?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Now I teach people six ways to do anything? Yeah,
you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I love yeah. Now man, y'all make sure y'all go
tap in my man, mister six ways man on all platforms.
Make sure y'all lights and striving and come into the
Big Fat Network. It was very intriguing conversation. I appreciate
you pulling up. We gotta do this shit again, bro show.
I appreciate you alway. Another FA episode of Perspectives with

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