Par For The Course with Jordan Griffin aka JG

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now into
perspectives with big Let's get straight to it.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I always said I'm gonna just play the hand out
of depth. So I realized I had a power to
shuffle the cards. Hmm, welcome to the perspective bank.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Today. I got my.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Brother JG aka Blackball CEO in the building.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
What's my brother? How you feeling feeling good? Good? Where
you're mentally at right now? I like to always ask that,
like where your mental state at.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I like to stay busy, so I like to keep
my mind busy, like always thinking of something. I feel
like the entrepreneurs spirit. I try to like really like
live off of that. So I like to keep my
mind busy, just you know, thinking the new ideas. But
I feel like I'm in a good spot mentally, like
feel feel good, feel happy, feel healthy.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I ain't go off a big part of that too.
So yeah, we won't get into that book. But let's
take it back to the beginning. Like who is JG?
Where you're from?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah? You represent? Yeah? So how was you raised?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I was born in Seattle, Washington, but I moved here
when I was young, like three four years old.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I was raised in Fairville, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Grew up playing pretty much every sport you can think of, baseball, football, basketball,
all the Yeah. Ended up going to college and play football,
to play cornerback at Farmer University, so d one college football.
So I mean that was a real big part of
my life at that time. Right now, I'm just in
a space where I'm you know, golfing a lot. That's

(01:33):
really my thing right now. I got into it recently
and started a business around it. So just trying to
run a business and have a good time golfing and
to join myself and you know, trying to make money
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So that's really where I'm at right now.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Would you say that sports just playing sports taught to discipline.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
For sure, especially football because I went to Santa Creek
High School, which is one of the like bigger football
programs in Georgia. So it was some real competitive to
get on the field, like you wasn't just getting on
the team and playing like that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You had to earn your way on there. So yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Like the coaches back then, I know, stuff is a
little different now, but back then it was real strict,
Like you on time or you not playing, like showing
up to practice or you're not playing, it ain't no
leeway around it. So I feel like that really taught
me discipline as far as like timeliness and you know,
doing what you say you're gonna do, and you know,
just being there for your team and working hard.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
And trying to earn something. So I think the sport's
definitely a big part of that for me. How hard
was it like to just remain focused high school?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
It wasn't that hard, just because I was on such
a tight schedule so much in high school. But college,
when you got a little bit more freedom and you know,
a little bit more time to yourself to think about
your thoughts and all that, it was definitely a little
bit more difficult. I'd say definitely had some challenging times
in college as far as sports and just living in
a town that I wasn't familiar with. So I think

(02:58):
I grew a lot from that time. I mean, it
taught me a lot about myself and who I am
just spending the time by myself with myself, So I
felt like college was a time to learn about myself
and learn what I needed to get into and what
I not didn't need to get into type thing.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So you do you feel like like shifting a little bit?
Do you feel like golf golf is part of your purpose? Yeah,
for sure. It kind of came out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
But the more did I get into it, the more
I realized how it like really relates to life in general.
Like yeah, because I mean, you go out on the course.
You can hit a bad shot and it ended up good.
You can hit a good shot end up bad. It
just show you that you just got to take your shot.
So yeah, and if you take your shot, it might
end up good, it might end up bad. But you
know what I'm saying, that's just that's that's life really,

(03:45):
and that's golf too.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I recently just got in real heavy, Like I had
went to a tournament with.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
With Miguel Wilson.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I ain't know how to play golf shit, but I
went out there and I just seen like I felt
because I always be hiking and ship anyway, so I
went out there. It's the same like you're outside, you
know what I'm saying. But then golf is like I
couldn't hit the bomb, so that made me want to
play it. You know what I'm saying it's a challenge. Yeah,
it's a challenge for you. Did you play sports when
you was like just play a little football, baseball, but

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that ship wasn't then, Like yeah yeah, but coming out
there it's shit a whole another thing because it's new.
So you don't want to feel defeated by nothing, especially
not when you see people younger than you're in and older
than you perfecting it.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the thing. Like you can get good,
but then like you never know how good you're gonna
be on any given day.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
So uh, Like I've been working at the ship non
stop and I feel like I'm at a point where
I'm all right golfer, but.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I can go out there and play bad too.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
So that just challenged you to keep like you gotta
get really really fine with it, Like you got to
really knock out the bad shots for real.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So it's just thinking about mindset, Like coming out there
with the wrong mindset.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, that's always the recipe for disaster, if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's anything, Like, yeah, anything, and with the golf, like
you'll get frustrated with yourself, but then you realize like
getting frustrated, it's only gonna make your game worse. It
don't never makes it better. It never makes it better.
So you gotta keep a cool head.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
You gotta really keep your calm, and you gotta maintain
it because if you don't, your game gonna get worse.
You're gonna get even more upset. So you gotta really,
you know, really fight through it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Mentally apply that to life. Yeah no, unless whit you
down in life. You know what I'm saying. You wake
up already frustrated, man, ain't then gonna go right for you. Yep,
it's the same thing. Like like a nigga can hit
his first shot, it's like full shot on each hole.
It's gonna either be it's supposed to be three, five
or four shots, right, so it ain't just one shot.

(05:39):
So you hit a bad shot and be so frustrated
that you don't even recover on the second because you frustrated.
But you hear a bad first shot, and seen y'all
do hit a bad first shot, then come out instead,
go right by the flag. You never know, You never
know how it's gonna go. So yeah, sure you gotta.
It's always the next shot, always the next shot.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
How is it being like a young black entrepren a period.
It's tough. What's the ups and downs? Up?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
It's tough, especially in the golf space, just because it's
not really that many black folks in the golf space
for real, so you kind of really building it up
and trying to work your business at the same time.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
It's challenging.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
When I first started running the black Ball thing, I
go to the course and be like, I really ain't
feel like I belonged there. Like it was like a
weird feeling, like a like an imposter type syndrome type thing,
just because you ain't really see nobody out there that
look like me, like dressed like me, like none of that.
So as I got more into it and I got
better at the game, I just my comfortability out there

(06:35):
really like got better as well. And I think that
my game improved too, because like we belong out there too,
because that's the biggest thing, Like it ain't no reason
it should be like no black people playing pro golf
for real, Like it's a few, but it ain't enough.
How talented the weird and things, and how good we
are athletically mentally, how strong we are, like it should

(06:58):
be a lot more black people professional golf.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
It's just when we ain't did it yet.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
When I tell niggas about it, we're gonna wake them up.
When I tell niggas about it, they just be like, Bro,
she just seemed boring, but she ain't seem like it's
shit too slow and all that shit that's a niggas
be saying.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
So when I was like preparing, kind of preparing for
this interview, I was thinking about like some possible things
that I might want to talk about, but I really
thought about it, like the cool thing to do when
we was young was play basketball, play football, and it
was all about how like d folks look cool too,
Like Deon look cool.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He had a swag about him. All Arbison look cool.
He had swab.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So that made us want to play basketball and play football.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
But you ain't see that in the PGA.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Like Taker Woods was good at golf, but he ain't really,
you know, exemplify what black culture is for real. So
I feel like we got somebody like that and we
start putting it on and going out there and golfing,
like it's gonna change who want to play golf?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
And that's the first thing. It got to look cooler
to the young generation.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
We know it's cool because we play it now, But
as soon as you get him into it, I feel
like it'll be you know, it'll move more black people
into the golf.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
What's some thing?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
What's some steps you think besides sewing that you gotta
be fly playing the ship?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
What you think some steps is that we can take to.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Make you really invest in the kids, like the kid
programs as far as golf goes, like first t programs
like get them into a young and not having to
spend that much money, so then they fall in love
with the game on their own, because that's the only
reason they that's the only way they're really gonna get good. Yeah,
is if they fall in love with the game on
their own. It ain't gonna because so and so pushing
me to play golf. Like, if you love the game,

(08:33):
you're gonna work hard to get better at it. So
you got to make them fall in love with the
game earlier, I think is the biggest step, and then
push it put like keep them going through high school
through college and then you know, really got them along
the way, Nah, because I'll be seeing them people having
their kids out there young. Other other race and coaches,
they be having their kids out there young. Like everybody
you see playing me, I've been playing all six years old.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know what I'm saying. I'm starting at forty six. Yeah,
you know what I'm sat But I love it though.
I'm gonna play this ship till I can't no more.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah for sure. I mean playing young.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Also, you get the muscle memory factor into it, like
you get used to playing the game. So it's I
think that's the most important piece to me. How is
it living in Atlanta and trying to date as a
young man. Well, I'm recently engaged, so I'm kind of
out to day and scene now.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
But it's an interesting type of shit. It's an interesting scene.
Ship crazy You fought your good one, Yeah for sure.
For sure. There was a needle in the hattat though.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah it was it kind of it came out
of nowhere, but like it kind of fell into place
like perfectly.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So I feel like that's the best way to make
it happen. Like how you know, how you know like
this your this one.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I just feel like in past relationships, like I was
just had a like I ain't gonna say like a quick,
quick temper, like I ain't really an angry type guy,
but like just one of the end things quick, Like
it wasn't never know like I'm fight through this.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I ain't gonna you know what I'm saying. I'm ana
do whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It takes before this relationship, like and now I feel
like in this relationship, like I'm aa fight for this,
fight for it, fight for my girl. Got more patient, exact,
way more patient.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm gonna stick through it, like I'm like I'm really
in it, like and it's like a different type level
for me personally. So that's kind of how I knew,
like that this was definitely you know, where I needed
to be at who I needed to be with. And
I think compromising is really important too, like in a relationship,
like you gotta have somebody who know you and know
what you're gonna do so they can, you know, get

(10:35):
a feel for you, Like my girl know I'm gonna
be on the golf course, like it ain't never no issue, like, oh,
yeah you need to come home, like, yeah, you've been
at the golf course all day? Yeah, Like I know
I need somebody like that, you know what I'm saying,
because I know how much I love you.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Every day every day if I can really every day.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
If I'm traveling the summer, might take a day off,
but I try to get out there almost every day
at least a practice like chipping putting, cause that's the
only way you.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Really gonna get good. Yeah, you gotta do this.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
You gotta work at it for sure. Who's some of
the people that inspire you though.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Definitely my parents, just because I mean, they don't help
me down my whole life. They've been together my whole life,
Like they gave me a good picture to look at
to like what I wanted to strive to be when
I grew up. So they definitely like my biggest like
like motivators, and you know who I idolized the most
just because how they did it and they made it

(11:29):
just look how I think it's supposed to look.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Other than that.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Like, I got a lot of friends, man, My friends
really motivate me. I like to keep people around me
that's gonna like push me and you know, be like
you bullshit and like you you're supposed to be doing
a good job too. You need them, folks, Ryan, you too.
A little bit of both of them like family and
friends really like my driving motivators for real?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
For real? Ya? What about you though? What who motivates
you the most? Like right now? Who you feel like? Like?
Like who you looking at? Like Okay, yeah, I like that.
Let me see, Uh, anybody that's being themself?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, anybody that's being them like he him? It could
be they don't have to be having no money, they
don't have to Like I feel like that's the ultimate success.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
When you can just be you, all the rest of
are gonna come.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know what I'm saying, Like a people person that
don't have a mask on, like get inspired by that.
I'm an advocate for be yourself. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like because at the end of the day,
then you give people a choice. If you who you is,
they got a choice to fuck with you or no.
But if you're faking it, they might like you for

(12:48):
the fake you, and then that shit gonna start stressing
you because you're gonna run out of it, Like, man, man,
go fuck you know how you got a part.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Be folks man? Yeah? Be fake?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Y'all said that. I gotta go eat fake. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Motherfuller you know you don't fuck with that shit crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But no, that's that's a good question too, that you
double back and asked me, because I never I asked you.
I never thought about that anybody that's being themself like,
I'm inspired by that. Like you can just tell from
the people I fuck with. You know what I'm saying, Heaven,
that's especially industry people like you know what I'm saying,
I just love mother pull it. That's just if you.

(13:28):
If you out there, you don't care about being out there,
you feel what I'm saying, like, I love.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Them kind of people. But the motherfuckers who I can
sit next to.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And because I read character good and energy, I read
that shit good. I can tell when you can watch
how you treat me. I watch how you treat motherfucker.
You probably feel like shit. How you around that person,
how you greet that person. You know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm paying attention to. So if I win me,
you'll be doing me like you know what I'm saying,

(13:57):
big you little me. You get one saying so to me,
that's a character flow. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
You see a nigga feeling like just because this person
ain't this or it ain't on my level. I don't
have to respect them. I don't respect that, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Everybody saying.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Everybody's saying, Man, these people, you know, I don't judge
people out what they got.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I get a kick it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I get a kick out of seeing something go to nothing,
go to something, It don't matter what it is.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Like I can see them watch a plant grow, you

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I mean, I just walk in that motherfucker growing, you

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I mean, that's really like the plant thing.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I really think about that too, like you just like
this is is alive, like the plant that's different, Like
you know what I'm saying, saying it grow from nothing
or something like you said, exactly amazing. Really, she can
be a tree we go put in the backyard. Once
we're growing in the in the flower pot, we're gonna
put it outside and keep going this shit crazy. So
that's just like a metaphor just saying I like to

(15:06):
see a seed growing to a tree, you know what
I'm saying. And that's what people too, Like I always
wanted to fuck with the underdogs. Like they think that
I can see what they gonna this is gonna be.
So this is what I want to attach myself to.
And then I'll be like I knew it. I knew
that ship. I get a job out of that.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's all for real. You think shall like the motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Huh Yeah, And niggas, any niggas can tell you avouce
for it. Like I feel like all the same shit
that anybody that's doing shit, she can do that, he
can do.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That, you can do that shy, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Like the same way because I seen these same people
who who's moguls now like be nothing, you know what
I'm saying, But they what they had a wheeling the
determination to be You could tell people with me like
I can tell black Ball is gonna be huge just
being one hundred and I told you all the camera
like I could tell like shipping and be big.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, Because it's the mindset.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And the spirit and the and the determination and the
wheel to do the ship that y'all got it.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You your brother who I met, y'all got this ships
like shipping to go up.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, appreciate that it's going up. Appreciate you're going we're
going up. You know.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Them already got the brunches on them. Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So you where you went to school in Georgia? Yeah,
sant Creek, Okay, I mean not high school on my college.
I went to school in South Carolina, Okay, Greenville, South Carolina.
You stayed down up you okay? And did you come
back for the summer?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
How you were doing was?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I mean I came back for like maybe three four
week during the summer, and then we spent the rest
of the time like being doing camp getting ready for
the season. So maybe like a month a year I
was at the house.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You got any kid? No, no kids?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
How important do you think it is to be in
your kids? Very important? Very important.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's because it's so much noise in their ears nowadays,
like it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It ain't the same like when we was growing up.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
They got the internet, they got cell phones all day
every day, like they always looking at something we outside playing,
like just talking to the folks around us.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
They always got a million different things. They can look
at what's going on in the world everywhere.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
The guidance they need nowadays, I feel like it's way
more than the guidance that we needed just because we
the access is so much different.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
So yeah, I think it's very important.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You gotta gotta be in your kids life and and
and if you can't be in your kids life, then
you know that's that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, it's not really shit because now because you're a
product of a two parent household, as you said, right,
So it's just like I think it gives you a
different especially you gotta stayle Ain't not like a stable home, man,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Ain't nothing like a stable home.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Like I said in the beginning, Bro, you can be
depth the hand, but you can shove the cause niggas
don't feel like they can shuffle.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Bro. Because of where I come.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
From, a lot of time we won't feel like we
can shuffle that ship. It's just like then what it
is I'm going to play this Yeah, Yeah, that's why
I'm on ship. That's why I'm gonna live in testimony.
You ain't got to state the same ship. You can
go play golf, yeah, even being from the street. Yeah,
golf course right off Cleveland Avenue.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, exactly. It wasn't done there every hood.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I just wanted to want that to a bone sh
in the ghetto.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Like you just gotta it's just a mindset thing. Like
you said, you gotta decide. This is what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go golf. I ain't gonna do this. I
ain't gonna be you know out here like this. I'm
gonna golf. I'm gonna go to golf course. Ye, Caddy,
you know, shag some golf balls like we were talking
about earlier.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Bro Jiffin say, young crazy man, don't you know how
much money you can make going in the golf courses
finding golf balls and selling them, washing and selling them
all right, money?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, money. You need to put a crew together. Business
you can. That's a business man.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Because most of them ball like you said, he ain't
been hit the one time, Hey get the.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Ball pulled out the box hitting into the wood. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I done donated over two hundred and fifty thousand balls.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
You can't find them.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, you really gotta go searching for me. Yeah, you
can't do that. It'd be a whole bunch of golf
balls out there.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
So when you if you hit your balls in the wood,
you might go over there and find every ball.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But you're a ten ball. But yo, you know what
I'm saying. That kind of like life too, though, Ye
you know what I say.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You go ahead, folks, don't really go over there to
see what's over there.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Like you go try to find your gold ball, you
find fifteen other golf ball.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, you never know what's gonna be on. You're gonna
walk right now, you're gonna walk.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
He was on your car. You're just driving.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's up green like, but sometime you go in the
wood you find fifteen golf balls, like you never know.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Really shit.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Real, So let me ask you some what's your respective one?
Like politics and shit?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Man, I hate to say this, but I just have
Like I actually was a political science major in at
firm university career, but like my interest in politics has
has decreased ever since I got out of school, Like
it just keeps decreasing. It's just because I don't know.
It just don't seem like this this might sound bad,

(20:29):
but it don't seem like it matters, Like it don't
seem like it matter who the president is. It don't
seem like like this this stuff don't really you know,
politics something you don't really want to hit on too
much just because people so opinionated, yeah, polarized about it.
But uh, like I feel like a lot of the
stuff that's going on when so and so the president
might also go on when so and so the president.

(20:49):
It's all about the state of affairs with the Like
I think the people, like we really got to like
the local elections, Like it's more important than the big
the big time elections to me, m m, like the
president for per se, like voting for your mayor and
that type stuff, but gonna directly affect you.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And then if folks voting.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
For their mayor and getting good mayors in they city too,
Like that's the real like united part.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Of the you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
You think anything dealing with big money rig though, like
like a super Bowl could be fixed or off. Like
anything dealing with big money, it's like some scam in
that shit. Anytime it's big money, somebody trying to get
the gotta be bro it gotta be it's some snake
shit somewhere and it's too much money.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean, it's the easiest way to do it
is with the officials, the referee. Like if you're talking
about sports, like I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Think the players in on it, don't because I played sports,
so it'd be so hard to rig a football game.
It's damn near impossible to do.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
What you mean, because you got athletes out there that's
really fighting for their life, like you out here hitting
folks like you could be seriously injured. This ain't no game.
You're not out there like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Like, but she won the quarterback throwing in quarterback got
the power to do something like that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And anybody too, because you could drop it. You could
drop that motherfucker. You're gonna be running back and fumble.
But you got to think how depend it is on
the other team to like what they doing, Like you
can try to do whatever you're gonna do with the
other team. They going again, don't know they they turned
up exactly whooping the nigga up.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, he'll throw three interceptions and were turning the back over. Yeah,
you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
You're the team kind of dictated too, So I mean,
maybe not football, but maybe like boxing and them.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Nigga like joinking boxing for sure. Nigga like joinking through
through a series though. Oh basketball, Yeah, if you're the
main player. Yeah, you can do that.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And then with all the prop bets and stuff going on, now,
like what but the name John Tay John Tay something
he got caught with the sports betting scheme was being
on his own like prop bets like points rebounds, that
type thing, and got call you got arrested and then
kicked out of the NBA career. Yeah, basically, yeah, that's
a teacher. Yeah, I mean it's a it's a big

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dis not with the props.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
So you know what else sports you for? You for
that soccer?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Really, I'm a I'm a big football fan, basketball fan, baseball.
I like baseball too. I'm a big Falcons fan for Shure.
But you know, you know how that is.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
It stressed, stressful, probably one of the most stress with
teams to be a part of.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I thought they gonna get right last Sunday, I did too.
I was real disappointed.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I was in the room for the boys, man, but
it got ugly so and then it was justin Fields
that made it made it even worse. But real Yeah,
you know, he from Georgia, so he came in the
house and beat us.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Damn. Yeah. Coming up, who's your favorite rapper? Favorite rapper?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Coming up probably low Waynell Wayne. Like during college for
a little minute, it was whiz Khalifer, Like I was
really rocking with Wiz Khalifer.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's probably when I had started smoking a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Uh. But the Whiz Khalifer because Your Orange Juice was
probably a big, big album to me.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But Wayne, who else? Growing up? For real?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You think Jay should Wayne did the Schooshie too? Okay here, Yeah,
Gucci shut out the Walk. You think you think Jay
supposed to Wayne did the Super Bowl? Yeah, definitely, especially
with the performances they gonna have in the past few years.
How Like they went to California and they let the
California artists like get up there and do their thing.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like you in New.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Orleans, everybody thinking that Lil Wayne as far as music,
how could you not have him? Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like him or somebody in New Orleans, somebody
Kendrick from from l A.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
That's that's that's that's the way out there. When you
got all these local artists, that's big time. Like I
feel like they could have just did a like collaboration
on a whole bunch of New Orleans artists or something.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, they could have had that ship because that should
have been lit. They would have been fold have been bounce.
He could did bounce music. But I don't know the
politics the big money ship rid it might not even
beat Jay.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, it's Kendrick around going crazy right now too, So
I mean that's a part of it too, why they
want the big money.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, do you think that do you think that
it's crazy?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And I'm gonna ask this question a couple of times
to a couple more people, do you think that that's
like a a.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Nail in the coffin?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Like niggas think that that's a nail in the coffin
for Drake now, Like they're saying, like he won now
because this nigga did all this.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
They've been this. Now he in the super Bowl type shit.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I mean he probably Drake probably was like damn, I
think that, but nail in the coffin now, he just
he just been going too long.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
He's been through a whole bunch of different things. You
know what I said, I don't think he could because
he do too much.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
He makes good music. Yeah, that's the that's the main thing.
As long as you're making good music. Folks gonna listen
to you, especially your long term fans, Like people been
listening to Drake for fifteen years now. You ain't finna
just be off to Drake like Bandwagon, for.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
He can only make them get off his bad way. Yeah,
like when they start seeing like you're getting timid or something.
You know what I'm saying, You got to keep dropping.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Sure, So what you think is like the most what's
been the biggest challenge as far as getting into golf
and like getting good at golf for you, what would you.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Say, just remain to come and focuses. Yeah, because I
know but one thing about golf. This shit crazy has
one thing about golf. It's a tricky. It'll show you
what you can do. Because I come out the one
day y'all with good ball bank, good ball bank, and
that come out there like today when we played.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Until y'all go ahead, I'm practicing. I ain't keeping no
school on now. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's just staying focusing and just playing through, playing through it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
When you're mental ain't right, you know what I'm saying?
What mind state you feel like?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Say you going to the golf course, like, what mind
state are you in when you play your best like game?
You think like you just like calm and you like
excited about the round, and you like, like what what
you think it is?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I ain't gonna lie anytime when I when I'm you're saying,
like when I'm finna pull up and ship. Yeah, I'm
always excited to play. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I'm excited to night before. I lay my shit out
like I'm going to school. You know what I'm saying,
I lay my clothes.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't. I can't wait to play, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
But some days, like you could get a call on
the way right, so you see on this round you
can't do that. Yeah, you just gotta block it out
and go play. Yeah, I can't have your phone. I
agree one hundred percent. I'm with you on that one.
You cannot play with golf with your phone on.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You know I'll be trying to do it.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, you're never gonna play good.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's just in the car.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I can't get frustrated like you were saying earlier.
It's just I don't know, it's just a mental challenge though,
you know what I'm saying, though, why I went and
got me I had the cart bad. I just went
and bought me a carrying bag. So I'm finna gotten
the implement my hiking with that.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Just walking.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I walked the Nines all the time. Just start walking
to eighteen. Son't get my steps in and cause I
think every time I walk right, it takes me a
minute to get to the whole I'm thinking instead of
riding on the cart talking to a nigga.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ain't getting my focus together. When I walk to my ball,
I'm cussing myself out, like you're really, bitch, bro, how
you just make the ball go alway in these bushes?
You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, bro, buckle down,
get folks walk up on that motherfucking whack it walking.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, I agree, I think you play better golf
when you walk. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And so so it's all like you said, all go
back to life, like you're taking your time and you're
pacing yourself like y'all, nigga, here the driver three hundred
yards and shit, that ain't I can't do that yet,
you know what I'm saying. So what I'm gonna do
is if the if the hole is God damn if
the whole This is what I just knocked out there,

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the whole three hundred and eighty something yards away right
stud of me.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Here my driver trying to get.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
On into I can hit my h one eye or yeah,
the one eye, or I can hear some ship a
five and hit it one seventy one.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Seem to what that is?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, three, I'm there in three and I can God
damn part or birdy.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean, somebody hit they drive a three fifty the
whole fourteen.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
They still got to hit another shot. Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, they got a chip. They might chip on fuck
up on the chip. You still gotta this shit crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's something different like metaphors you can make for the
game of golf. I feel like, just like the way
different things go when you're out there.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
So that still, like you say, run back and resonate
the life, as in, stop, don't try to hit driver
because they hit driver.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Walk your path.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Somebody here in the five iron, somebody here in an
eight iron. But as long as it go the right distance,
that's exactly the right way. And shit still gonna lead
to the same destination exactly. Some facts. Sure, what's the
shit you've.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Seen that you learned in school that you I mean,
what's some shit that you learned from life that you
could have never learned in school?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Learned from life I couldn't never learned in school. I mean,
just the consequences of your actions. Really like school, I
mean school, they kind of like if you're going to class,
you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, You're gonna
make it through school, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
But life, like you mess up, it's consequences for everything
you make a wrong decision, it's a consequence for that.
Like you got to really be patient and be thoughtful
a lot of decisions you make because I mean, just
a little small slip up is I mean, it could
set you back so much and then you gotta fight
all the way to get back to where you was
just att Yeah, So I mean the setbacks and the

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consequences of your actions is something that life teaches you
that I don't think school ever will teach you for really, So.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, I know, it's gotta be a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's never got damn So you feel like you've never
came off your path ever since. You definitely half what
took care of your path. When I was in college, man,
I actually, uh, I played. I really ain't never even
told the story before, but I played. I played three
years at front University. I was starting corner like all

(31:02):
freshmen and SoCon all that shit.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
It's kind of spring of my junior year.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
We got this like beach bike weekend or something like that.
It's in like Charleston. I had to finish the turn paper,
so I stayed on campus.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Uh. My homie ended up got down.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Giving some weed, give them give him some weed to
somebody for him, like gave him like a little seven.
Didn't think twice about it. Three four weeks go by,
Damn cops come on campus, arrest me my homie, and
she got kicked off. The football team had to transfer.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Uh. I mean it was a lot of shit, man,
it was.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
It definitely swayed me from my path a lot, I
feel like, uh, But at the same time, like I
felt like it happened because it was supposed to happen,
Like I needed to learn that lesson, you know what
I'm saying. Like it taught me so much about myself.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Uhself, it might have been a lot of this ship
went left. I really don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I think somebody on campus that like because they were
like doing they were doing it for real, like I
guess in the area, and somebody gets caught on to
them and was trying to get them.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
And I served at it undercover one time, and it
was undercover.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I thought, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah. So they was already like on them
and shep went left. But yeah, that's part of part
of part of my journey at this point. So it ain'
ain't nothing to be ashamed of. I can't go back now,
kept going for sure, And I think it just it
just motivated me to, you know, push me to be

(32:39):
you know more, you know what I'm saying, and really
do my own thing and also be smarter than my
decision making, just because you know, that's that's something you
just gotta do.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
It's just like like you said, it's just like motherfucker
went over there, but it didn't go out of bounds. Yeah,
nigga still still in play, Paul stealing the motherfuckers in
the words man for sure, Nah, for real, I think
you're dope, bro, And everything you standing for is dope. Bro.

(33:08):
Just about being around being on the golf, cause you
need some really good people out there, bro.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's for sure. That's that's one of the one of
the biggest like things about golf. Like if you get
out there and you just experience it, like you never
know who you're gonna meet out there. And I met
so many people that I never even thought about meeting
for real, y'all, Barkley, Like you know, har you know
what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
I ain't never expected me none of y'all for real.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
So, but the golf connected the artist, like it just
it just brought it all together. Yeah, And especially because
it's so few of black people golfing right now, you
like you're gonna if they if they in the golf,
like a lot of successful black people gonna be golfing.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, by the time you play eighteen hole with it
in y'all friends, that's just what it is, bro.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Y'all gonna talk about everything little eighteen even and it
ain't even gotta be no personal conversation. It's just when
you're talking about golf and how you miss your shot
and good shot and this about in it's like, you
know what I'm saying, this shit crazy bro. Yeah, Like
I feel like I've been missing out on something, not
just not start Like damn, I have been playing this
ship out have been good. Yeah, I think the same thing.

(34:10):
But it is what it is that you just gotta
work with what you get. You shill get good man.
I'm pretty get good now.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
They got the champions to it back.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
You know, you go go pro the Champions to you
gotta be fifty in up to get on there. It is.
That's like the old pro golfers. They in like a
fifty and up.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
League our years.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm playing four years old pro four years. You just
gave me a destination. When a turn fitted, I'm getting
in that ship. That's a good goal. Yeah and ship.
So you say it's the champions to call the championstore.
And what you gotta do to get in I don't
know how. I guess you just pull up to I
really don't know. I really don't know, but I know
you gotta be fifty in up man. If you if

(34:48):
you're good enough, you can you can get onto it.
Just like the PGA two. I think how often you, uh,
you do tournaments? You playing tournament pretty often? Pretty often.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
The more you get into golf, like people always looking
for people to fill in and they like groups, and
you know what I'm saying, I'm always getting people hit
me up like, oh you want to co golf today?
Like at least like three four times a day, I'm
getting like text about golfing. So I playing a few scrambles,
but really been working them a lot with the brand too, though.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well you see a black black Ball golf brand in
five year, five years.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just want to I just want to just keep
pushing like us, Like that's the that's the main thing.
I hope our story and our and our and our
what we what we're working for and striving folks remains
the same. And I just hope we stay in the
lane of trying to push younger golfers, young black golfers,
young underprivileged golfers, and just continue to push them into

(35:44):
the game. I think that's the main goal of black
Ball for real, like just to get more of.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Us in the game. Like it ain't necessarily we out here.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Trying to, you know, be the biggest brand in golf,
but we want to just stand by what we believe
in and really push our our near livin, push the
clothes we like, and you know, feeling good out there.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
And that's the main thing.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Like five years, I think it's gonna be bigger than
bigger than ever. But you gotta just go step by step.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I feel like, no, you gotta be always saying I'm
out there, like I know y'all see me fucking up now,
But y'all gonna be the same niggas saying, even though
niggas is pushing me forward, they're gonna be the same
one saying, Man, I remember that nigga couldn't hit that drive.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I remember he couldn't this. I remember.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's what I thrive about for that would give me
the energy to keep going because when I do be
it when I because I know I'm gonna get good,
like good good.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I ain't gonna play with this ship. You're gonna put
the work in. Yeah, I'm gonna put the work in.
So it's gonna be nigga be like nah, that nigga
shooting shooting low seventies.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was awful when I first started. Everybody is That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Everybody is that why I'll be telling you though, like
when you be hitting, when you glimpse at a good shot,
you're talking about that, just tell you the potential that
you got exactly, and if you can just replicate that shot,
you're gonna be good at.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Go man, so many motherfucker. It's just like he said, Man,
you can't be scared. Man, he needs it scared to
be embarrassed in front of other people, That's what it is. Yeah,
that's the big people. People pride bigger than they then they.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Ambition.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
You think that discouraged like more people from getting into
golf just because they get into everything, not just got everything.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Motherfucker's scared to even just take because they don't want
to let nobody see them fail.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You gotta feel in front of people too.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, if you I mean, if you don't ever fail,
then you ain't trying to you know enough things like exactly,
you ain't trying hard enough if you fail.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You know, in time, Michael Jordan didn't make that shot
that ah damn. But it's the big one that he made. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. But he made some big ones,
probably missed more than he made.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Man, it don't go.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like how people think it should go because they watching him,
like they say, watching another motherfucker highlight reel. Yeah that shit,
don't go like that, bro, you gotta be you gotta
step out on face.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah. Believing in yourself ship.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
A lot of people say that, like it's so cliche,
but that's the biggest thing and everything, like you just
gotta believe in yourself.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
You gonna you can make it happen.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
It's the moment of doubt that you gotta erase the
you really pushed through?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Man, is that that is no doubt?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Who that was Smile just saying, like saying, not believing
yourself you gotta know, yeah, fuck believe, fuck faith, I
know that's true.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Who that was saying? This ship Joe, It was Oh, yeah,
Stevie Baggs. My home is Steve bad.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
But I think you're doing to Oh I ain't no,
did I ask him no? But yeah, Nah, it's a
lot of niggas out there getting into this ship now.
You think so many people like getting into golf nowadays,
like what what what what do you think?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Like why why did you pull up to the first
turn that you went to?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like what was your Yeah, my man, like we're gonna
do whatever. Like whatever he whatever he got going, I'm
gonna fuck with it. Whatever I got going forward. You
can getting Wilson right here.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You know what I'm saying. He introduced me to the
suit cigars and all that shit.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I fucked with og but cause he's just a fly
old nigga, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
But he ain't look like no old nigga, fly old
young niggas. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
He called me out there to the thing. I always
wanted to go to it anyway, because I thought that
was a fly shit. He really asked me to model
at the shit for him at the polo class is
coming up to polo classes. I went there after He
was like, man, I'm doing a golf tournament. Man, you
gotta come. Man, you know what I'm saying. I play
you just come, man, Just ride on the cart and me.
We just gonna build. Went out there, hit a few balls.

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I played the whole eighteen. That was my first time
el on the golf court.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
How long ago was that? That was two months ago?
That was in in June. Okay, yeah, yeah, you brand
new to that. Yeah, so so shit.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I ain't mad at myself where I'm at now, because
I remember I didn't even hit the ball when I
was out.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
There with I ain't kill them still trying Now you
gotta come on with a group behind it. I ain't
nobody none of that. The other thing, you stay up
till you hit it.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You ain't like the like the whole etiquette, Like you
know what I'm saying, Like certain thing golfers do that
you might not understand, like you might not know about
you think that drives people away from the game too,
Like how you feel about like all the little small
little things that you noticing, Like gotta be quiet out there,
Like you can't talk while somebody hearing they shot and
you can't.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Like that's that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Don't want to don't want discipline though, you know what
I'm saying, Like they got some shit in golf that
I heard. I was like, yeah, I love this ship.
I heard it like the fird day. They were like,
you know, when you're on the green, it's like you
step on somebody line. That disrespect. That's disrespect. You cross
the line in real life. You just disrespect me. Don't
cross my line, you know what I'm saying. Ship, So

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don't knock my focus off. But I'm in the tea
boll shit the fuck up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Part of it gotta have gotta be disciplined.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, this is ain't no but discipline, bro, every man needs. Yeah,
woman too, it's some good. It's some five women too though.
Oh yeah, for sure I know that one.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I know a girl named Alexis Belton. She's one of
the best golfers I've ever seen. Like, no, no, no
exaggeration and women the best woman and women. She one
of the best golfers I've ever seen. She played in
the pro she played pro golf for a minute. She
living in London. Black, young black girl. She uh, young
black woman. Let me let me rephrase. But she she's

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she's an amazing golfer.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
She she always giving back to the community, running clinics
and all types of stuff too.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So I gotta connect you with her for shows. What's
the clinic? Uh, you go to a golf clinic.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
You you basically learn the fundamentals of putting, chipping, driving, grip,
like all the little small things that you need to know,
like the details about golf really to introduce you to
the game. And also teach you like the fundamental part
of it, like what you need to do to be
you have a good golf swing.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
People run a lot of clinics like for uh like uh,
you can do a clinic for like corporate events, like
they do that type of clinic. And then they got
clinics where you can like do like a women's clinic,
men's clinic like co ed like and then you have
like three or four instructors there and just basically guiding
people driving range. Yeah, So how you think your perspective

(42:24):
change when you started playing golf.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I mean, like you said earlier, the biggest thing is
you you can't get frustrated with yourself, like you gotta
really you gotta really be You gotta gotta be nice
to yourself out there, Like you can't go too hard
on yourself. You can't be like too self deprecating, like
you gotta really be nice to yourself. You gotta gotta
treat yourself nicely out there if you want to have

(42:47):
good results. I feel like and when I first started golfing,
I hit a bad shot, I'm cussing on myself, like
throwing clubs, like getting mad, not talking to the people
I'm golfing with the whole round type shit like me,
you like, I like this when I'm not gone, you
know what I'm saying. So I had to realize, like, yeah,
my feelings way too much and my friend.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Never let me live it down.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Like at what time we went to the Dallas Cowboys Club.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I had a bad round with my boys.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm not talking to nobody at the end of the round,
Like we're sitting there out eating at the end, I'm like,
I'm my head down, not talking to none of them
for the whole time.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
We got to eat.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Buddy, send me a picture like every year this is you.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Remember. I'm like, it ain't be that, Like that can't be.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
My persona out there me for real, And you can't
let it affect you too much when you hit like
bad shots and that type thing.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
So no, I agree, Yeah, you just got to be
nice to yourself. I think it.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Sounds like we're talking gone, but it's real, Like shit, bro,
you know what I'm saying, Like, when you go through something,
just because you went through something on me, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Stay in it. Whenever you leave your mind and some ship,
that's when you fuck up. Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You gotta move past it. I got to prepare for
the next got Yeah, that's that. That's that's great point.
Like you gotta have a short term memory, like because
when I played corner and in football, Like, you gotta
have a short term memory. You might somebody might catch
the ball on you. But if you live with it
and you keep in anything like you said, in anything,

(44:15):
any sports, any any life.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta have a short term memory.
You got you can't live in in the past moments.
You got a nigga got a highlight being on you
out now, Oh yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Nice on me. Yeah on you, you know, like ooh
doggg you. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
One time, who was I don't remember his name, but
we was playing Auburn, Auburn University. This is my sophomore year.
I was having a decent game before this. I don't
know if it was a run up past, but somehow
the running back I think it's number was number thirty four,
thirty six something like that. I come up to him,

(44:55):
I break down perfect like I'm about to make the tackle,
Like I'm about to make the tackle, like ain't no doubt.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
About it, Like I lunch out towards him.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
He like hit me with a little juke juke, I'm
on the ground, he running down the field like and
it's out in space too, like you didn't know what.
The whole crowd went crazy. Uh that ship was embarrassing.
That was That was definitely. I'm definitely on his highlight
tape for sure, if he got one, I'm on his
highlight tape. Number thirty folks Auburn. It was like twenty ten.
So look up at the roster that that you did.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I don't know, I don't know how many time you
did that.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I played defense mostly, but I used to. I used
to crack crack like I used to hit some folks,
like back in high school and college, like I got
I got on film like I'm knocking some knock some
folks heads off type shit.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
With my picks. I have some picks.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I have some pick seas I ain't really ain't get
to I ain't get enough picks. I think back on
that I should have had more. Yeah, like I should
have had more. I had a lot of past breakups
because yeah, I was fast, I was around like high
fo folk. I was decent. Could I could play a
little bit. I think he could have went all the way.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think if all that didn't happen, been like I
could have got a chance, like I would have been
like in camp trying to make a team.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So how you record, you just you just you just
stopped playing football all the way around with that happened.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I tried to get back into it when I came back,
when I went to Georgia State, but it was just
wasn't in the cars and I could just couldn't make
it happen. So once that happened, I kind of just
focused on like working type things and then somehow got
into golf and it like kind of create reliving that
like competitive spirit at the same time of playing sports

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in the past.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
So you know a lot of people would have used
as as their excuse to be like I missed my
chance and just to be nothing. You know that, right,
That's what most people do when they fail at one thing.
They think that everything is old right, well not even
feel if something just don't go as playing. Like you
said earlier, I think it was meant to happen. Yeah,

(46:51):
some fluid shit, it just happened. It's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, I can't stay right there though.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, It's just it definitely changed my perspective on a
lot of things, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
How did your h How does your mom and dad
take that?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Like that was tough. That was a tough time for sure,
real tough time. I think just because it wasn't never
I ain't never really been in no trouble for real,
Like I wasn't never really like you know what I'm saying,
Like it wasn't never nothing gonna be no bad call
about me. Like I was just chilling doing my thing,
playing sports, that type of thing, and it wasn't never
no issue. So I think it kind of hit them,

(47:28):
hit them hard for sure, and me at the same time,
Like it was more embarrassing than anything for me, And
I knew that I ain't want that to be like
the end of the story.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
You feel like you embarrassed them a little bit too,
Yeah for sure, for sure, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
I mean I was on a full scholarship and now
I'm like, you know what I'm saying, I gotta find
a way to get back into school and pay for it.
Like it's a whole different you know, boy, they came
and got.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
You out high school. Ye, what we're doing about this tournament, Bro, we.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Need to make it happen. We're gonna make it happen.
We don't need to make it. We're gonna make it happen.
But I think it's gonna be huge, man. Like it
just like we was talking about earlier, Like the way
it connects, like the BBG, Big Bank Golf, Blackball Golf,
the way it connects so seamlessly. I think it's gonna
be a great event just because this it all happened organically.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I hear you say that word a lot, and I
think that's so important. Like regardless, you gotta you gotta
make organic connections.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Like I don't believe in forcing that. When you force
it, it ain't gonna work anyway.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
So when you do it organically like you were saying,
and the connection between you and the brand and us
on the golf course and just having a good time
out there and you just recently getting into golf and
we connect so quick, and you know what I'm saying.
I think it was just you know, purpose for sure,
gonna be a big event.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
What else you see yourself? Yeah, to be to be
announced to b d T b D T R two
is okay. On the day.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, in the October right exactly like me Octoba end October.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's gonna be huge, crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
What's some goals you got outside of just golf and
stuff like That's you know, when I say I got
a lot of a lot of different goals, a lot
of them is oriented with just being happy at the
end of the day.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
That's the main goal for me. Golf make me happy.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
So I'm really focused on that at this point right now,
and I like to drive down, you know, I'd like
to stay in my lane, Like if I'm really feeling something,
I like to you know, put my energy towards that
and really, you know, get to where I see myself at.
Like I got high aspirations as far as you know,
when I get into things, I want to succeed at
whatever I do. So with the golf thing, I'm kind

(49:46):
of ten toes down full focused on it right now.
But in the long term, just being happy is the
ultimate goal for me.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
What's happening though, to you, you know, just healthy?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Main thing healthy, like taking care of yourself, feeling good
about yourself. Like when you when you're really invest in
your body and invest in your mind, I think that
makes you more happy just because you like really taking
care of yourself. And it's important to take care of
yourself too, Like you can't always rely on other folks
to take care of you and give you what you need.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
You got to really go out there and try to
find what you your purpose is. I think that's the
biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
So yeah, just just health, and I think, you know,
having good relationships and being being strong in the relationships
and like people trusting me, like with you know what
I'm saying, they emotions and they state and that type thing.
Like being a person that folks feel like they can trust.
I think that's important to me too.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah. How you how you maintain like your friendship relationship,
how you maintain.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
It's crazy because me and my friends we being friends
literally since like elementary school. Like it's like it's like
eight or nine of us, Like we went to elementary.
Well we ain't go to the same school, but we
always playing sports together at that point, and like we've
just been We've been strong my whole life.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, like we're real brothers.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Like it's not no, it ain't never been no animosity
for real, Like obviously gonna fight with your you know,
you know how that is if you got lifelong friends,
like you're gonna get when you.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Call the k though, Like, man, you're stupid head bro.
Yeah that's what I expected.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, I'm saying that's what I expected because I put
myself in that situe.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, so you know it was all of love saying that.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Like sure, yeah, they trying to push me to be better.
That's all how I always look at it when when
it's your brother's for real, Yeah, yeah, you can't take it.
It's like they trying me, they dissing me, Like you
gotta you gotta look at it as constructive, you know, criticism.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
What about traveling, Yeah, I love traveling. God can taking
it around the world to show.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Like you want to see what the different courses look
like everywhere around the nation, and it's it's every course
got its own like personality. So traveling is is definitely
one of my favorite things to do.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Who you think the gold is or the golf go
to golf, Tiger for sure, we go. Yeah, no question
making because Jevity. Yeah, and how dominated he was at
the time.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I know he was. He wasn't like folk folk probably
didn't like him winning.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Like that's that's what makes so crazy, like as he
got good, like folks love Tiger, but when he was
first getting up there and beating all them folks and
the young black guy like be these established people in
the PGA, I'm sure he.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Had a whole lot of heat on him, like he
was getting some hate. For sure.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
They had him the mic shore that they died. He
got caught up in another ship, had him up on
the mica.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
They was watching him trying to make sure, like see
if he made a mistake, and just you know what
I'm saying, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
He different, bro, I'll be watching it taps and ship.
You can't watch the YouTube training trying to learn how
to play. Tiger said that too.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Tiger said that, like you can't watch YouTube videos trying
to learn how to go because it's it's just so
many different perspectives and your swing is for you, like
you know what I'm saying, You can't necessarily try to
replicate because your arms ain't the same lean, your legs
ain't the same length, like you know what I'm saying.
Like it's different for everybody. So yeah, the YouTube gonna
mess your brain up. You're gonna be thinking too much.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Who else? Who else? Who? Top five, you say Tiger,
who is top five? Tiger?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
You gotta go Scottie Shuffler right now? Who's been dominating
golf right now?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I probably put Phil Micholson. Yeah, uh, I'm all about
like have you been doing it? And then how long
you've been doing it for? Like that's that's different.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Like when you're doing it for a long time and
you you continue to win, You're fifty years old, you
still win the tournaments.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
That's that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, if I had the name two more, I really like, uh, genre, I.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Think he caught and then probably Rory.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I had to say, I think that's
a that's a decent top five.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, no, for real, that's sure. I love that ship, though, Bro,
I just I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I wish I wish it was a twenty four hour course.
They need to have the night courses, man, I feel like, yeah,
glowing the dug twenty four hour course. Yeah, that's ship
we're gonna have to do. They say that, like the
electricity bill be so crazy, like it'd be hard to
like keep them up if folks ain't really pulling.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Up for you, ship. You smoke a we got who
is on the golf course, like the driving range that
you ain't even got to have like a whole you know, whole.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Set up three whole player three. Yeah you get you say,
the glowing the dark ball player.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Three, niggas running ship, the man in the circuit.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
We can just do an event like that, though we
ain't gotta necessarily have a whole spot.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
We could do an event like that. That'll be hard. Yeah,
it'll be like some ship up.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Some night nightgof event.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
We need to put that on and put that on
that too. That's it.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
That's it, like that ship would be two player broyeh See,
people don't like you said, you we just got a
brain brain to it, you know what I'm saying, bring
bring us to it. Cause niggas, like you said, niggas
may man, you better learn how to hit while nigga talking.
We talking, nigga. What I'm saying, Like and I been
like on summer like in uh at nighttime or something.

(55:16):
It's a whole nother bout. We're here'll have fun. We're
here to be competitive. Okay, we play go, but we
he'll have fun. We're teaching. We it's basically a clinic.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yeah, it's time and place for you know, you know
some people playing real competitive golf, but it's also all placed.
I feel like in golfer you to have a good
time exactly, so you know, stiff on the rules and
dress code and all that. So Black Ball kind of
doing that too, Like we want to kind of like
like tend the line about like is this acceptable to
golf in or is this like you know what I say,

(55:43):
streetwear like per se. So we kind of on that
line and we want to kind of like confuse the
line really because we feel like the golf.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Where right now it really ain't it for real, so
it gotta be some It's crazy you play golf with
a nigga. You know what kind of nigga is?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, straight up one time because if a nigga lying
about his strokes and lyne and god damn, he's so
mad about this, like you said, he got mad and
then talk, you know what I'm saying, he really can't
control these emotions, or he's a liar or he's so
you know what I'm saying, it just different ship bro,
that shit crazy or if a nigga late, you.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Know what I'm saying, Nigga always late. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
You just learn about niggas, Bro, but not even know
what I'm saying that you're saying that. Yeah, Like that's
as far as business go too. Like you know, when
you meet somebody out there on the golf course, you're
gonna know if you can do business with this person immediately,
because if you if you're out there lying like you
said line about strokes and cheating and moving your balls
and that.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
That means something. It means a lot, I mean something.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
That's why listen that one. I'm out there learning the rules.
But y'all know I'm moving my ball off after the bitch.
It's in the water. I can't hit it out of
the water, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just like, Bro,
I'm just playing. I'm just out here playing baseball. Or
if I'm finished, take scode. This is what I'm doing.
I'm playing with y'all. But I can't. I can't that
day you get you know what I'm saying. But I
ain't gonna be out there like bro, Bro, I'm putting

(57:08):
for Birden. Damn bab you putting for Birdie.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Some people will say that to you, man, it's really crazy.
But yeah, like you said, you can learn a lot
about a person course.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Really shit, it's it's just like etiquettes, right, Yeah, you
can see I don't know what's the what's the what
energy that you try to try your bit to stay
away from people?

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Probably jealousy.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
If I had to say, like jealous energy is is
that's a strong that's a strong energy. I feel like
like if somebody jealous of you, they and they want
to they really want to see you feel like, or
they want to be you type thing like that's never
somebody I really want to be around.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
What's some signs of jealousy like comparison number.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
They not congratulating you, Like, yeah, I don't. I don't
need much congratulations. I don't need much recognition. But you
can tell if somebody like acting be trying not to
congratulate you on certain stah, that's one of one of
the main signs of jealousy. But I agree, yeah, like
if you're going out your way not to say you
know what I'm saying, I'm seeing you all the time,

(58:14):
you see you know what I'm saying, like because I'm
congratulating you, you know what I'm saying, Like it's not.
It's not a one sided thing. Like if I see
somebody doing good, I ain't jealous. I'm I'm congratulating you,
like and if I'm not, then that could mean something.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Your nigga trying to add like they ain't see it. Yeah,
how important do you think it is to reinvent yourself?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I mean it depends if you're doing good.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I'm just saying, like good or bad, like if you
if you're doing good, like like black Bottom took off,
like Okay, now I might want to I might want
to do something else like not just you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, I think it's really it's important. It's
somewhat important to me. I think, like if you're in

(59:01):
a lane and you're doing good, like, it's important to
maintaining yourself too, like and as opposed to reinvent yourself,
like if you're already doing what you want to do,
if you live in your purpose, sometimes you don't need
to reinvent yourself, like because you are it's already working
for you.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
You're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
But maintaining yourself is really important because if you in
this lane, you got to keep working while you're having
success too. So I mean it's a certain time to
reinvent yourself and when you need to do it, it's
very important. But at the same time, like certain people
are already living in their purpose, already doing what they
supposed to be doing, so maintaining themselves is important for
them as opposed to like reinventing themselves when they're already

(59:38):
doing well in what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
If you get what I'm saying, what about like what's
your perspective pone like just.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Trying new businesses and shit, you mean like something looming
or like working with new businesses or work with new
business partners.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Okay, it's a I mean it's it's just it's tricky.
It could be a slippery slope, like it's it's really
hard to uh because being from Atlanta, I don't know,
like if it's just us, like we always gonna be
like real like suspicious about certain things, like everything everything.
But if something seems so good, like they're trying to
push this opportunity to you, you don't know if it's

(01:00:21):
a real opportunity they trying to get over on you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And that's something you're gonna be thinking about in the
back of your head.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
But do that ship help her hinder us? Though? I Mean,
I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's good to be cautious, but sometimes you could be
overly cautious out on opportunities at the same time. Yeah,
could what email fuckers be coming left field like a
motherfucker with this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Man, it's like in the email, Oh yeah, we can
find a way to make you an extra so and so.
Your so and so likes it real is it's not real?
And then you actually do it and it's real, And
then you're like, Okay, maybe I've been missing out on
some stuff I should have been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
But I think you do. You do you believe in energy? Yeah,
so can't you kind of feel certain shit? Yeah, but
not when you first, like getting introduced to somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Oh no, to feel it out through it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, you you sometimes our reject ideas before you know
what I'm saying. I even go through a thorough you
know what I'm saying, figuring out what's going on. Yeah,
you can't really do that now, you can't. Yeah, you
never know exactly, but I don't know. I think I
think it's first sight with me. I can kind of
tell I ain't saying them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
God, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
A god or nothing, but I can kind of tell
at first sight. But I can adapt to that too,
Like I can tell what type of personal person is
like immediately, but I can adapt to it. Not saying
I'm gonna be faked. I can just know I can't
put this type of energy in that. If that makes
sense what I'm saying. We're gonna get some business, we

(01:01:54):
coin of some ben together. We gotta be friends, you
know what I'm saying, Like people getting shit mixed up,
Like just because we're doing being together, we're cool. We
gotta talk every day. If you talk to somebody every
day and be around them every day, you're gonna start
to see things you don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
That's with anybody, even your spouse.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
If you're around a person every day, even if it's
not a deal broak, I ain't mad at you, but
I just don't like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
So that's with anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
So you're around them off of our time, you just
gonna then that shit start to weigh on you. I
just feel like sometime space is good, man, with everybody,
you feel like like getting back to golf kind of
like you feel like, does that give you an opportunity
to like decmpress when you out on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
The golf court.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yes, yes, like cause it's like you with yourself, no
matter if if you playing somebody or not, you still
with yourself when you step up to that tea. You
gotta try to block these people out who with you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
You feel like you're going to the zone when you're
out there every time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yeah, okay, every time. It's a place of healing. Bro.
I wouldn't even a lot, nothing like that, Bro, I'm
telling you, I just don't put the hiking down. Bro.
I had to go the other day just to make
sure I know. Man, I still hike. You can do
both on the golf course. You walk with your bag
and be walking in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
But then it's a different walking in the in the
in the wood, in the wood.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
That's true. I gotta come out there with you want to,
But we can go before and then go to the
of course. I can't. I can't remember the last time
I been hiking, honestly, No that bro. This ship vied out, bro.
Ain't Bush and that ship the same thing? But different?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
On the different with golf is you're challenging yourself yeah,
you know what I'm saying. But I you just really you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Challenge himself with that too, though. If you get tired,
you get fatigued, like mentally, it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Ain't getting that hard to wear you like about the
I don't know if I can make it up to
the top or nothing like that like that, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Hell or not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
And first it was when I was got there three
hundred pounds. Damn how much weight you lost? Like shit,
I'm at I was like down there three twelve. I'm like,
I'm I'm fluctuating from one ninety six to two o three.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Okay, that's why you know what I'm saying. I've been
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I'm been fluctuating for like six months now. Yeah, probably
I feel great, But a lot of that ship just
going away. Bro, I ain't gonna turn that shit into that.
But a lot of this shit just slowly releasing from
a nigga. And it was like, God, push me into
all the right spaces, like no, you need to be GoF.
You need to challenge yourself to to get your etiquettes

(01:04:33):
together now, like it's all lining up to what you
know what I'm saying, It's all lining up to like, yeah,
you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I don't don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I don't know how to explain it. Niggas has better
wake up, man, We're gonna wake them up. Yeah, we're
gonna wake them up. We're gonna showing we have fun.
We're chilling. It should have vibe. Yeah, Well, beautiful cart
girls out there, we've been to turn up man, bb
G man, we've been turn this ship up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
So ideally, what you want the tournament to look like?
What's your in your mind? Like the perfect tournament?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Like? What the vibe? Like? What? What? What is looking like?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I want to do it at the spot we played today.
I ain't gonna say it on came, but I want
to shout out of my nigga trip to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Nigga. He'll leave it too is juggle. I fuck with
that nigga trip.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
But I want that ship to look like she Black
excellence the real way, you know what I'm saying, Like
druns and like ship you never saw before.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Out there. You get you some red wine, You pull
up to a spot. You know what I'm saying. You

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
You can take a shot of red wine if you
want to, Like, you know what I'm saying last like community,
take your shot of red wine. Like I saying, we
vibed out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Bro, we're on the same page. We gotta make it happen,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Instead of cigarette, nigga, you get you you can get
your pre roll as a whole, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
It's a part of golf too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
It's a whole culture around like smoking and golf. Like
that's that's one sport that's really the only sport where
you can smoke and golf. I mean, that's the only
sport you can play where you can smoke. It's like
and ship yeah anything whatever you smoking, that's the only
sport you can play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
You can't smoke and play any other sports, Like golf
is one of the ones that you really can like
smoke a cigar and kick it like drink or drink.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I say, you nearly got a drunken head part. Like
people be hating the lead. I can see it in
them dude face when you when you when they pull up,
everybody getting out of the car. Yeah, but nigga here to
go home, nigga be like we're playing tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Niggas say that golf court bro I don't want to go.
I feel him though, being a trick about it. When
you get on the fifteen hold, that's when you start
playing excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
So you're like many more than ship man. That's how
they get you. They get you to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
You gonna have got there like spacking and Ship's like man.
So now I can't wait to go in the morning.
You read books, self helped books?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Oh nah, not really, you never read one. Okay, what's
your favorite book?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
That's a tough question for me right now. I really,
I really can't say. I can't say what my favorite
book is, like more more more often than not, Like
at this point, I watched a lot of like videos
like I'm listening to like audio books like me too.
But in the in the past, I had like, I mean,

(01:07:36):
it's gonna sound crazy, but Harry Potter was one of
the like one of the first things that got me
into reading for real, Like and then you used to
go to them what was it called?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
It was like a math not not a math thon,
but the little book you know you had to read
and then you got like the points.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I think it was something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
But if the book was bigger you got point so
like the Harry Potter ships was huge. So but thatver
really really got me into it. I sound like lebron
On here like talking about Hey, so what's nick for
Blackball Gough the BBG the Turn event.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Yeah, yeah, we we tend toes down on it. At
this point, we were going in We're gonna have a
great event. I can't wait to see, like because I
already know like the feedback as far as you know,
just your energy, I can.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Feel like you got good energy. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
You've been making connections throughout the city for so long,
like people gonna support whatever you do, and like you
doing an event like this, you're gonna really drive so
many people to golf that she don't even know right now,
Like you're gonna have a whole different you know, a
whole different group of people out there playing golf. And
just because you decided to get out there and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Do your thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
So I just think that the event it's gonna be huge, man,
And it's gonna it's gonna bring a lot of uh,
it's gonna it's gonna be a guiden step to what
we're about to do in the future. And I think
it's gonna be big for the for the future of
golf too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
No, I encourage people to go get I'm gonna go
get me some lessons too. I encourage people to go
get lessons, just at least tried.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
That's the thing. I ain't never got no lessons never.
Like I don't know if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
A pride thing an ego thing, but I just never
wanted to go get lessons.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
I kind of wanted to teach myself how to do it.
That ship do we had, like bro ship trying to
get it everything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Like, That's why I ain't never really want to, Like
I want to try to guide myself through to figure
out why I did this, why I did that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
And I feel like in the long run it would
be beneficial. But lessons definitely like gonna teach you the
fundamentals quicker than trying to do it on your own.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
No, well, I say so, We're gonna try to tie
them foundations to it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
What your foundation about?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Pass the part so we got an initiative were basically
trying to give more access to to youth, to children,
to underprivileged kids, to that to the golf course, to equipment,
to anything and all the necessities you need to play
golf because golf can be expensive, so it's important to
you know, give them access and give them equipment so

(01:10:15):
they can get out there and play and not have
to worry about the money. So that what passed a
part really trying to push and get more youth and
kids into the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Game, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, and uh, for sure. I just got my uh
it's called curating different thoughts. I just got my uh,
you know, legit papers, whatever you call it. Yeah, we're
about to go up with This is curating different thoughts basically,
just like you said, trying to help people change their thoughts.
You know what I'm saying, just because you definite cause
I mean, you got to play that hand you can sheff.

(01:10:43):
You know what I'm saying, Like, stop thinking that you
gotta be this way because they started that way, you don't,
you know what I'm saying. And special I really want
to just help the people that's going through the things
that calls from the If you get what I'm saying,
If your mama's on drugs or your daddy went to

(01:11:08):
jail or died in the streets, so you were just
affected by street ship, I just want to try to
touch them people let them know, like Bro and Ship,
don't stop you still hear you know what I'm saying
and try to promote it healthy E just change your
thoughts all the way around. Bro, Just just trying to
curate different thoughts. And then it's the same initials to

(01:11:29):
my brother Clayton David Tatum, So it means something to me.
I won't put the logo I of got him on
the logo with me and Ship, but curating different thoughts.
I think we're going up with that one, and we're
showing them that we actually think different, like everybody around
me know I think different.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Yeah, I still be going in and out they know.
I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
How you feel about like manifesting, like you you believe
in manifestation like okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Because.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
That's the only thing I really get because I always
knew I thought myself out of every situation. I believe
that I could do it like anybody ad me a Like, Bro,
this shit going up regardless. I ain't never did nothing
like I'm gonna keep it one hundred, Bro, I ain't
never did nothing. That just was just a straight doodo.

(01:12:19):
I just quit like I don't even want to do that.
Ship works I don't know God, it's just a gift
from God. The ship works immediately, like it may not
take all the way off of me, but it works immediately,
like this shit working.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I went in the studio, made a song, my first song,
a hit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, because you believe, because I know I knew, because
you knew.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
You know what I'm saying, just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Like God just favor certain people, bro, And I don't
take that shit for granted. You think hard how how
you think the balance of hard work and favor is?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
What do you think that balance is? You think you
get favored without doing the work? You think, No, no, no,
you gotta be a hard work in anything. I don't
give a damn. You could pray every day and don't work.
You ain't finna get shipped cause God ain't finna give you.
Just put it in your hand. He gonna give you
the will to do it. Yeah, you can do it, nigga.

(01:13:20):
All you say you want to do it, let's do
it on which but you gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
So what's your ultimate goal as far as like like
golf goes, like what you want to what you what
you want to see yourself doing in golf?

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
In five years ship. I want to play in that
that fit. Yeah, I don't playing this ship. You just
gave me the goal. I've been playing that ship. Yeah
up and look that up soon as we get off line. Yeah,
that's a good goal. Man. You just got to you
know how much work you're gonna have to. Man, you're
gonna help me get that. Bro, we're gonna work together.
Say you're gonna help me get.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
That for y'all. Niggas hit man. Today I felt so
I won't leave y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I text. I text my girl right what I love
to tell her?

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Good?

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I played, you know, feeling good. You've been crazy, bro,
IM like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Damn, these niggas out here ain't bushing. I was like,
I'm sorry, it's fuck. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
You know I've.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Been playing for five five six years now. No, but
I'm just saying. But I get inspired from that. I
get inspired from like. I went and played again, man,
Mike went to play What's not?

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I played? I played good?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Uh, we went and walked there Bobbie Jones, Okay, I
left from out there. We went to play Barba Jones,
but we walked it. Yeah, because they got the little
automatic ship.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
To walk behind. Yeah like Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I just played a little quick now. I was
like the schmacking that motherfucker you playing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
You just gonna keep getting better and better, man, Nah
man j G. Bro. I appreciate you. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
We're gonna double back. We're gonna do more content. We're
gonna have a date for y'all. Man, whole lot of
content on the way. Yeah, I just bring him over here.
He ain't wanted his first interview. He didn't want to
do it, but it came, and I appreciate. It's nervous,
but you make it real easy to do the interview, man,
So I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Man, I appreciate you. Brother. Doubt hey Bank telling.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
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JGG dot twenty two on Instagram, and then follow the
page at Blackball Golf on Instagram. All right, make sure
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Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
And make sure you come and get see if you
want to come to this tournament. We're having a tournament
the BBG.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
If you, if you if.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
You're rocking with us, man, let us know when we're
gonna we're gonna do it big.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
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