PWB Replay* | Conversation Rules The Nation with Jody Breeze

Originally aired January 20th, 2025

Big Bank sits down with special guest Jody Breeze to discuss the impact of upbringing in Georgia and his transition into the music industry. They also unpack the dual nature of social media, the evolving dynamics of masculinity and gender roles, the importance of communication in relationships, the lack of role models in today's society, the influence of streaming platforms, the state of lyricism in hip hop, the implications of AI on human behavior and more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in tune,
respectives with big Let's get straight to it.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Legion isn't about bouncing the back. It's about moving forward,
stronger and wiser. Every strip you take mother too perspectively
back today, I got my dog with me, my Gemini
twin Joe to Bree, what's up, bro?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up my brother? How you feel? I'm good? I'm good.
I always ask everybody, this is where you're melting at
right now. I'm good to be honest with you. Feel that.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's a new year, new money, new things. You know,
we're trying to stay out the way and any way
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
No, for sure, they take you to the beginning at first.
I know you don't tell the story meantime. But Georgia, boy,
what part of Georgia you come from? Good for you,
broy bottom of the bottom of the day. You feel
the biggest thing came out that month? For sure? For sure?
Standing on that, for sure, I was. I wasn't like
growing up down though.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, like the little rural areas that be around
the major city, like any state, it's kind of like.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
We get we get everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Last type of ship you see what I'm saying. So
we had to be two times better than the next person,
you know what I mean. Had we had to be
like one stuff in and everybody to become somebody, especially
in the city like that where it really ran.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
By old white people and ship. You feel what I'm saying.
It's like a retirement place, but it's still is gritty,
you know what I mean. Yeah, we kick it the
same way.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
In fact, would you say that that was that was
a challenge you had to overcome from now? Now like
what's made the challenge you had to overcome down there?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
That that pretty much. It just just trying to make
it out the hood, bro. You know, I grew up
in the street really like you know what I mean.
I wanted to be a hooper, you.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Know what I mean. I wanted to play ball when
I was young.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
But you know, just coming to how I came up
and how we came up anyway, it's just hard to
pursue dreams when you around it by so much negativity
and pretty much bullshit, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So we got we had to weave out.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Way around the bullshit to get where we're trying to
go back and I just so happened to.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I always believed in God. My people don't pray a lot,
you feel what I'm saying. So I started praying early
to be able to get out get out of a
lot of situations because I just knew that I couldn't
do it by myself.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You see what I'm saying. I never really dependent on people.
Fact who inspired you to want to do music? Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I never to be honest, but I never really wanted
to do music. You feel what I'm saying. I wasn't
a rapper. I wasn't writing rhymes or.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
How can I say? Like, I wasn't in tune with
the industry like that.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
We listened around, we thought, like I said before, like
we used to stay rapp with langs here, you know
what I'm saying. So by the time I started rapping,
I was eighteen years old. So my potol heard me
bullshit around one time and he was like, bro, you
you all hard that type of shit. So it was
like they ain't even want me sitting no dope door.
That The niggass like, hey bro, you hit a rap

(03:06):
you our way?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, So I took that into consideration. But I was
still doing my things, just trying to find my way,
you know what I mean. And I was having a
little girl too around this time, like O three, so
I just knew I had to do something. So RAP
was like, Okay, if I sound good, y'all say y'all
like it, and I'm gonna try. You feel I'm saying,
looking back on it, now, what you think you You

(03:29):
brought from the street that prepared you for this interesty shit?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Clientele? Bro, you feel what I'm saying? Clientele?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Good relationship, good dope, you know what I mean. Like,
you gotta be solid too. You gotta stand on some principals.
You gonna have some kind of morals and ship to
be able to leave for somebody to want to follow
you, you know what I mean. Like everybody ain't even callowing
them money. They following the principal. And I learned that
at a young age, just by a lot of my
big homies and my uncle, my granddad and my grandmother,

(03:56):
just the way people we'll see you them, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I want to be that type.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I brought a lot of needs to We had money,
but money never moved me because I never had a
problem getting none, you see what I'm saying. So it
didn't move me about the money. What moved me was
like how sided you could be? Like if we're gonna
keep it real with each other like that type of shit,
it's my whole mentality and if I can't, if I
can't vibe with you on a.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mental level, then we ain't gonna really get along. When
was that moment that you knew, like, yeah, I'm here
to staying rap shit? When newon of them came and
found me like Noon them actually, you know, shout out
to Noon because you don't even know who Noon is.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
But Noon like to me, like Jimmy, I veeen uh uh?
What's what's Kevin Lyles? He wanted these type of dudes,
but he quiet, you ain't gonna see him, you see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
He responsed be for a lot of shit. So he
found me.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
At this little uh rap battle thing I was doing
and making at a CUS show. Shout out the DJ
skills too, because he had put it together. But I
actually my first time rapping. I used to call his
radio station and making down at some point nine right,
they had like a who got the flavor type shit
going all back then, so I called it one time

(05:15):
I wrapped. He had like three rounds I wrapped for
him over the radio, like literally live. So he heard
me called me back. He was like, look, bro, I
need you call back up here tomorrow. So said, oh,
so I called for the nick two weeks. So I'm
ripping ship, you know what I mean. I'm just talking shit,
and I'm standing in the truck literally like with the
phone right here, the car right here is coming out

(05:36):
the car now and like yeah, getting into niggas like boom.
So he put he put a car show together and
make it at the mall. And when I got down there,
I was supposed to been battancing some dude that stayed
across the street from but he had supposed to been.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Like the top dude down there with rapping and shit.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
So when I went on stage Noon and Squeak, Squeak
actually managed drummer Ball, I don't know if he still
managed Squeak now Squeat Sweep was Noon people, you know
what I mean. So yeah, I went on stage and
they had this like they had our battle before. This
R and B group that Noon actually went to see.
He went to see this little R and B act

(06:15):
that was coming after us. But yeah, I got that
eight shout up, like he ain't even last around, you
know what I'm saying. I rapped two times, he robbed
one time.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh like a battle, yeah yeah, yeah, like a versus
type ship.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, just just a I actually did fifty wants to
be okay, he choked up. Oh he's the bad so
bad they they was, they was getting him up out
of there. So Noon squeaked met me at the back
of the stage. So Noon was like, hey, hey, you
want to do Hey, man, you want to do this
like you went to the rapping shit. So I had

(06:45):
my cousin with me, you know a little bit more
about what I was doing anyway, because I'm straight from
the truck to doing whatever you want me to do.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Noon took me right then. We dumped in the road
right then, and the part left my car. Everything. We
came to it that night, same day.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Right then he called jazz jazzy fay right when he
called jazz and jazz like, I was like, damn they
real live jam, Like, what's up with it? He was like, man,
look the dude you're with. He was like if he
say you that you that He was like, you'na brain
you to me right now? So we get on the
road Boom. Tip had Trap Music A released part of

(07:23):
that night. Right, it's the same day I meet Jazz
and them. He kind of looked at me and I
met him at the spot at the Trap Music ship.
So they gave me outfits and ship, you know what
I mean, in a Silver Rains role. We hit the city, Boom,
I'm like, damn, I go in to the show. I

(07:45):
see everybody. That's when Beanie Man and Marriage like his
first album, this went to yeah yeah. He was literally
king yeah. So I walked in on that. I seen
the play. This is my first introduction to rap here.
I ain't no ship about nothing. I walked in, but
I'm trying to swagged up though you feel I'm saying. So,

(08:05):
I feel like I supposed to be here, you know
what I mean. I walked in like shit, it's just everywhere. Bro,
I'm like, what the hell kind of ship is this?
Jazz don't stay. So he comes, he come around, he
see me. He dropping glasses type ship. So when he's
seeing me, he automatically like, hey, yeh man, no say
said that? U man, what you do?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Look?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
This is the crazy part. This is the story that
people don't know him. Fols don't tell because I don't
know why they don't tell her. But this is how
I actually became a rock. I want to plaque and
everything that day, and I betted my homeboys that I
want to go down here and eat this nigga, gass
up and come back with the plank.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's all I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I wasn't standing then going on with no wrap, none
of that ship, right man, Look bro, no lie. When
I left that night, we bought out like we're talking,
oh three bollywbo.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's a different type of bom nigga. We turned. I say,
I'm still in the truck. I learned how to do
my wares too.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You feel so I feel like I'm already straight hair,
b on on really about I already feel like shit,
I'm on nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I go back to the crib.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm back on the block. Look, Boom, I was with
jazz them last night, tea all the nigga last night.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
We walked to the own boy.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
They were like, you lying, you know what I mean
here nigga laing. I'm like, show them pictures and ship.
We had Instagram when doing all that show un till
last year. So I get back to the hood and
nigga like, hey man, one of my pott and he's like,
brou you liked it, bro, Like what the nigga talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
You like that?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You just finn do that. I still ain't standing. So
a week go back block Noon and squeaked. Then my
first time me blocked, they had himself for the fire
and they went and found my hount out. They came
down there and found my hunting owner. To this day,
I don't know how they found out. Well, my aunt
needs they drove the griff. This a week later because

(10:05):
I ain't called Noon Bank, I ain't calling nobody.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Saying that how we wore back there, So it wasn't
really shipped to be looking forward to because I ain't
know nothing about the game.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
And them nigga show up at the crib.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
My people called me like, hey man, it's niggas over
there in the celling forty five and you auntie them,
you'rd so.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Niggas like out outside the gate.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
My auntie had the gate, ran the motherfucker right by
spoting heights and anybody familiar with with Griffin on spoting
heights want this story hood we got like niggas.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It's like that.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So you got niggas out there trying to see who
these niggas are. They damn don't want to rub and everything.
They don't even know it. So they in the house.
My mama, I scared the oh, my mama and my aunt,
my cousin and everything, like what the hell going on?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So they're like, hey, man, who these niggas is in it? Such?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I get in how it's them niggas. It's Noon blocking street.
I'm like, what the fuck I said?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Damn? Bro? He was like, man, Noon was like what
you do? What you're doing? Man? Like? And if and
then why I popped my ship?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Like I popped my ship because the nigga who found
me is that nigga period.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
He ain't no way around now like hones him.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
So if he's saying this nigga came down here to
get me, like, ain no, Bro, we finished, We're finish,
change the whole life. You can do that in the
third And I'm still looking like, man, funk all that ship.
So my aunt telling my mama like, look, bro, get
this nigga the fuck away from around here. Cause he finished,
he's gonna be doing take his ass all the whey

(11:33):
y'all gonna take you. So my mama still looking like, no,
who is y'all niggas? And when you think you're gonna
take my son to we ain't doing all that old
type of ship down here. We don't get down like yo,
pick him up, do out it. So block go outside
with my mama and talk to her on some big
brother ship. And I lived with the niggas after he
after he my mama, she was like, all right when

(11:56):
I left, I left.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Stay gone gone, yeah, right out.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
More than they first built them town holes on more
than yeah when they first built Yeah, I know exactly,
yeah jen them affugger, they put me up, you know
what I mean? I met Jazz at Dark which is
Dad's Austin studio shot that that is Austin and that's
also don't get a lot of little the little he's
supposed to get either, But that's that nigga like these

(12:21):
these one behind the iconic type ship. So I'm in
here just being at Dark brouh. You gotta think everybody
in Lord Sierra, all of them there at the time
pull over the dune Johnte Austin beacocked all these writers,
and I'm around these niggas every day.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So when I get in there, I rock for Jazz.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
He was like, sh up, I'm just gonna do beat
you roughed. I stayed her about a month, a month
and a half. I had a deal that wanted because
they had a whole label deal.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Show No Rookers. That's where Show ruok is come from. Now.
I remember that, I remember that. I was. I remember
that like like when you popped on the scene, you
just I was. He was here to stay. I was.
Do you feel like then you end up getting in
the group, right? Yeah? The group cats see Block was
a part of the Show No Team.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, Noon was the brains, Jazz was the producer.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Block was the most rhyme. Was over the tour Yeah
yeah right?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Or Terror Yeah, it was ogly ship and they took
it serious. Do you feel like you you shouldn't have
got in the group or you should have got in
the group, which you feel hells?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
The group was a blessing, you know what I mean?
It was just like.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Block took what Jazz of them did with me solo wise,
and he went and did it with the group. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying. Because they all knew I
was that, it wouldn't have denied that. I was really
like that. You see what I'm saying, And I ain't right.
You know, I'm the first rapper to come in that
motherfucker be spending without having to right now down, I'm
just going into boothing and this when everybody was writing

(13:59):
on with.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Are you riding in the booth like like, gi me
to beat?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, give me to beat my vibes for me, and
I'm going there, bit ship, I was rapping none stop.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I didn't know what the hook was. I ain't know
what the verse war. I was just rapping through the whole,
no punching or nothing. Nothing. That's what made them be like, yeah, yeah,
we get a deal, yeah real ship.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, So what challenges you face like transitioning from from
like the streets to like actric but your shit, I'm
so fat.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
You ain't had to really go bro. I never passed
our CDs. I never took that that that leg work, groundwork.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
When I came, I would own and I think they
rubbed a lot of niggas the wrong way to a
lot of niggas that I was around. They had been
doing it so long. They were like this nigga, wait,
come and how were we able to do that? You feel
what I'm saying? So it was like I sensed a
lot of hate early just because you know, I ain't
from Atlanta. This it long, but you know I've been riding.

(15:02):
We chopped at walls and just like everybody else, do
you feel what I'm saying? And on the south side
and I hang on the old neck type ship when
stock breeding, that's what we hate. How you handle the
fame and the pressure of just being famous, Like how
did you handle that?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
In the beginning.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That ship want ship broke? I already felt like I
was that, like I always real shit. You should want
to like me, Like why you're don'na fuck with me?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know what I'm saying. I'm just cool. I'm a
cool dude.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
So with the rap, I just looked at it like, man,
it's just more another way for me to get out
of my situation. What's some ship that you just couldn't
get with? Like I just can't get with that and
this ship and this rap shit. To be honest with you,
at that time, but everything was solid. You feel around
that time, everything was sild of everybody wanted. They had

(15:51):
the same goals and and everybody had the same goal.
We went about it the same way. Niggas kept it
real a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It wasn't about I g likes, views and ship. It
was real. It was like regular, I fuck with you,
I fuck with you again. That you my brother? You
my brother? Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's how That's how I always looked at it until
it turned to where like I started figuring out the game,
you know what I mean, I started.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Knowing what was what, who was who? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So once I started putting my pieces together, then you
know you're growing up the old I get. I'm like, look, bro,
I ain't with all that like mans ship right there.
You know what I'm saying, I don't know what part
of the game is here, bit.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I ain't doing what part? What part you mean, like
what type of ship? All that?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Player ain't ass ship for no reason, you know what
I'm saying, Just player. I ain't no nigga just to
player because you mad at how I get out type
ship like they were weird than me. I don't be
around niggas who do that. You know, just killer talking then,
you know, just weird ass ship man.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
These nigga be doing.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
How you think, how you feel like cause you're a
fellow gymnast, so I know how you think, how you
move on, how you think that play a part of
just the way people see you and receive you.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I don't give I know what I'm saying me neither,
But how do you think it?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What role do you think that play?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
If my mind don't even work like that to think
that that is causing somebody. You know what I mean,
I don't. You don't fuck with me. You just don't
fuck with me. I ain't giving you no reason not.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
To fuck me. You think you be glittening though what
you mean like glitten going in and out?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I know what I'm in, I know what I'm I
know exactly what I've been saying when I said how
I said.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, I ain't saying like you be. You don't be
cognizant or conscious of what you do. I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But I know I can go in and out. I
know some days I be like this, some days I
be like that.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I do.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think there's everybody, bro we just its geminized geminize.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
More like.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Intact with this ship, Like sometimes I don't feel like
being bothered. Yeah, and so some people take that personal
though that they business. But I'm not doing it to
you take it. You react that way, I feel like
you got the problem.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know what I mean. Problem If you feel like
I'm doing something really because of me. Yeah, you're right whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I'm just saying, how uh yeah, have you ever felt
like a door, Like have you ever felt yourself like
slipping in and out? Like when I say slipping in
and out, I'm just saying like, like it could be
somebody could call me right and I could be already
in a fucked up state. I ain't gonna say move.
I can already just be in the only wanna be bothered?
Move and I can say some ship to them people

(18:39):
that I wouldn't normally say. And then I called back
and be like, oh my bad, I was going through something.
Do you ever catch yourself like I probably shouldn't have came.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Off like that. Nause, you got to take me.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's the only way I'm gonna come off to you
any other kind of way other than that.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I don't really cool, and I don't talk. You see
what I'm saying. I'm not a I don't like people
to talk all the like. I don't like to talk.
So when motherfuckers see me, they usually see me like
in the cut chilling. That's how I am. Brother.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Actually, I've been like that, so I feel like talking
too much. It's weird to me.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like, don't come around me talking out, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And then if you want to, if you want a conversation.
Didn't know how to have a conversation. I feel like
conversation with the nation, bro, But you got to know
how to have a conversation. You can't just come up
talking to a nigga like, what's up? Bro?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
She I be I heard? Man, I don't want to
hear all this ship. How you doing brother? What's your name?
Or you be doing what? Oh that's up? All right?
Well I'm me I'll be doing this. You're going by today? Boom?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I'm like that, like they keep it real simple, but
coming to talk, I don't. I don't care about your
being it. I don't want to hear you talk about
nobody like. I just don't like that type of shit.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Real ship.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
You know what I'm saying, what's your perspective on like
streaming platform? Because when we first when y'all first came
in and started doing music, you know, it was physical competite,
just like what's your perspective on streaming.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's it's a it's a good thing, I think.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I think it's a were able to connect with the
fans more with the streaming thing. Then gonna have to
go through labels and people that try to tell you
this that, and the third is like put it out
to see for independence, it's even yeah, it's real good
for independent.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'll be seeing a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Of people don't want to be independent no more. When
really you gotta have a little something to be independent,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
And you gotta have a following them that's following you anyway.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So if you gotta following it, you got a little
change spend or you got some people around you that
got some nice meat sources and ship.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's the way.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
But you know, doing it with the label is gonna
always put you in their faces, you feel what I'm saying,
So it's always upside to the label ship.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
But it's you ain't got no.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Say so for real, what you think about like AI
ship and the robots and all that ship. Brid ain't
even got any of that, Like I be looking at
it shit, like I don't even get in the AI
world because I already feel like they. I already feel
like people already feel like people. Robots are like just

(21:14):
regular motherfucker, not even robot regular motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
They robotic.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Bro It's really simple because if you look at a robot,
br we control it. You got to control their robots
some kind of way. It man made, so it's been
put together by a man. When you look at the
world today and you watch how so many people be
in their phone when you go out here, When you
go out here in the world, you mean we come

(21:38):
up in the world, where leave your phone? Man, Like,
don't take no pictures of what we're doing. Like you
fee what I'm saying, Like, don't be in here video
on all this whole ship over here. But now it's
like that's the thing to do. So if you wake
up every morning and you go straight to your phone
to look at anything, ain't on social media.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I do it. You rollbody, yeah about it like that joy.
I'm gonna tell you why some real ship.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm gonna tell you why you're doing what you're doing,
how you doing what you're doing, because you're able to
differentiate it.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, because you're real. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
I say you come from what you come from? Yeah,
I know that s it don't make me, ain't make
yeah yeah. Yeah. So that's that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
And we all, like we said, like people that that
was introduced this before they even know who they was exactly,
because they don't know who they are.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
The phone telling them, oh.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Boy, the cold There ain't no cold, no you No,
they don't know that.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Bro. That shit put chills on my arm. But you
said cracked the cold. It's obvious. But a lot of
ship that's you ain't obviously everybody else.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
That's what makes us to get upset because we are
so smart that we look at everybody else like, how y'all.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Don't get it?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, well they damon hill uh bro, they just slow
one of the other the thing snow and dumb. You
ain't fair shit.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
But they gotta learn. You just got gifted, Bro, that's
a gift.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Who at a certain age, Bro, And you ain't learned
certain ship by now, you ain't gonna learn it. Because
you can't learn what we got's it's instilled in us.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Brouh, Like somebody put this in me to be like that. Yeah,
so I ain't.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Gonna get along with people who didn't. Didn't nobody put
it in you. You ain't got shit in you.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Nobody told you that. That's not right. You know what
I mean, not telling you that's not right.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
If something like women have intuition, all people should have
some kind of intewish, right, if you don't been through
the struggle, you know what I mean, you don't want
to go back to the struggle, and you know what
the struggle means. Even if you ain't been through the struggle,
you just been raised by somebody who got fucking sin.
You aught to be able to tell right from wrong.
You know what you're doing? You know when you laying

(23:56):
you know what I mean? Like this shit just gonna
change dramassage dramatically because we come.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
From that none social ship.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so it's like we got to adapt to people
being so social and ship so fucked up because they
want to tell everything you want to tell all you
being that's never been the play, never, that's it's never
gonna run.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But how do you adapt to it. You don't.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't, bru. I feel like you're gonna love me.
You're gonna love, You're gonna like to hate me.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You're gonna hate. Yeah, it don't, Matt.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
But I'm gonna try to meel the right way, you
know what I mean. I'm gonna try to do what
I supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
The right way. And I ain't perfect. We all have flawed.
We all got ship that.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
We can change and we can work on, but internally
em slid. What's your definition of sidnd? I'll just ask
you that, what's your definition of soul?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm true to myself. I know who I am. You
know who I am. You can't everybody.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
They can't tell me what I know who I ain't
that what I'm done. I know who raised me. I
know where I come from.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know what I'm saying. I know it ain't gonna
I know what I'm going for.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, Hey, what do you think about like lyrics and
hip hop?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You think that ship? Did you know that ship? Kendrick
kind of bringing it back a little bit though somebody
had to make Kendrick mad Ken. We heard ship from Ken?
They went on playing with the man. Yeah, and he
came out busting. But he always been rapping like that,
though he most deflicate, that's for sure. Who ain't a

(25:29):
lot of them? Then saying, who would you who would
you consider as like that? Niggas will spend like a lyrics.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yah, just period, just period about five good niggas. It's
fry lyrics, and the Odds went on, yeahs always been
shoot ball, trick handed to people, be sleeping on trick balls.
But Ben Hard, you know what I'm saying. Make sure
said right people. As far as there's three stacks, big

(26:01):
boy two the ball, Lyris was on point. I like
to see though with the lys back then too, like
just Atlanta shit tip.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I always spit.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Little young niggas like little Baby though you know what
I mean, Little Baby spins.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
One dude from Chicago. I can't thank your name of
a dog skinned dude with the bread you're talking about. Damn,
I can't think your name neither. I know you're talking
about You've been out for a little Yeah, we'll come
back to it. I can't think of names.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's a couple of young niggas I like, But I
don't really listen to music like I used to you feel,
I'm saying, don't ask me who what you pulled a
linkening to.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I got out the fly. I just got me out,
you know, to your mother, I wasn't listening.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
When you find yourself, sometimes you're riding in the countess
listening to yourself, to your own thoughts. I prefer that
me too, Yeah, I prefer that. I don't really like
listening to music.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So you think social media is a good or bad
thing both? It can be good.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's useful too, But I think the bad aweighty good
for you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
All the negativity that comes with social media is outweighs
the good ship that come with there because people just
crashing out for a like interview, what's your perspective on
like most Black men like embracing their feminine side. I

(27:36):
don't even understand that question.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Like most of these niggas showing their feminine trait.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
These days that y'all don't see that like a lot
of men, they've been that way, you know what I'm saying.
But it's extra now because because being being self upstated question.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Being homost is accepted more now. So you know, even
the nigga who don't say like, don't identify as gay,
that's just your gay.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
The gay ship they do makes them gay. All that
gay ship be doing, Yeah, nigga be doing some gay
ass ship.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
They so gay to.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
The point where they coming in straight club now. I
you know it never used to be gay men that
were brave enough to come do this in the straight club,
like like regular club niggas in the regular club now.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So that's how I know everything gay. And I think
they putting too much of that ship, like stand on me.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm I'm a straight man. I love pushing that's nowhere
around it. I think it's something wrong with a man
like in another man like I think something wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
It's just my opinion. I'm not knocking you for it.
I don't want nobody to. I can't say wrong with it.
But you know what I'm saying, I don't get that, bro,
I don't. I don't. I don't like to play that
kind of game.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
So for me to see this ship all the time,
like everywhere I go, it's some gay shit going on,
they don't. I feel like they don't be appreciating real niggas,
like real men to be me and like they want
us to be some kind of feminine type shit, because
you got all this feminine shit going on, and we
gotta take it like we been dealing with this our

(29:18):
whole life. Nah, we ain't never we ain't never kicked
it like that. Bro, You got niggas who look like
us gains hell. So if you've been looking like this
the whole time you been.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Gang, Yeah, you feel like thet man. Yeah he ain't.
Let me ask you something. What about the women being
more maxculine? Now?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I said a bit down quick, I kick a bitch
out of their hou horse a saun shut up.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
You don't flex your muscles up at me and put
your chests in. You got titties, not a chest. We
got a chest. You got titties. The motherfucker move, don't
don't they jigger? They jigger, Bro, Don't nobody like that
with me? You feel that's all they be mean. They
just be mean to be told to chill out sometimes,
that's all. I always just hard for the fine one.

(30:12):
Damn how we fix this ship? Though some of the
ships are fixed, we stuck so it basically stay out
the way anyway, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Like I think it's a way to be out of
everybody wait.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And still be able to do you you feel what
I'm saying, because I think that's what makes you stand out.
And I kind of looked at how ship going because
I'm about to drop for another project in there. I
ain't put a whole bit of workout in the Indivender,
but I'm about to drop like a projecting I'm talking
a little different than people are gonna.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Be expecting me to be toughing.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Just try to get out of the game and put
it in words for everybody to see how I be thinking,
because bro, I ain't gonna tell you no, lie, I
just think everything.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Weird right now. I just I just be feeling like, man,
it's too much real ship going on for me to
be able to.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Cope with everything and then still be everybody friend, you
know what I mean, Like it's hard for me to
be friendly.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Because you have to either have to be somewhat fake.
I gotta do this lane ship brou And that part
of the game is what made me like, like, damn YouTube.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But but but that's but that's the part about that's
a part of adapting, is a part of mastering yourself.
So you gotta learn how to adapt to certain ship
and not take it personal.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Right now, I am to be honest right never to
nothing personal. I take it for what it is.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Though.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's the difference for taking the personal and then taking
it for what it is.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And you said by me being in certain spaces, it's
gonna make me the bad guy because I take things
for what it is. Anybody who acts like this, we're
gonna they gonna say it's this, you see what I'm saying.
But if any body that really knows me, they'll tell you,
like I'm staying the office, bro, like I'm not. It's

(32:07):
crazy saying you keep saying it because every time I
see you so well, Bro, you be able to cut.
Anybody tell you that, Like I just saw you at
the party, being at the fiftie.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
You don't ask you to cut like by an exit
and then the party that we being people being that motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I never been like that, even in the BML days,
like when we was in the club behind it.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Deep, Bro, I never home with it. But all they fail,
I'm really with I'm really in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I just think you get more attention by doing the
opposite of what everybody else doing it always worked for me.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
So do you think it's a mask?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
One more question about that? Do you think the roles
have been reversed though with the women to me? And
that's the men fault?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, that's what I mean saying. How your wow, it's
the men fault.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
How they start letting wanting to get away with shit
they know they ain't got no bening get away with
by what cause she made more money?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Bitch? So yeah, whatever, Joe, See what I.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Say, I been getting money. I get money, so I
don't care what amount.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Of money you got.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I'm trying to figure out who you will the MoMA
with somebody I work, Like what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
What kind of conversation you got? See all that shit?
They skipping over that just to get to what's going on,
like what you got, what you're gonna do for me?
Or what is this? What is that? Hold on? Baby? Girl?
Don't even fucking know you? For one?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Then trying to get to know somebody these day when
we were coming up with two three months and we'll
be keeping two three months straight, I pretty much know
who you in it.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now. This ship takes two or three decad I ain't
know where the.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Fuck you were twenty years mother, Yeah, I passed on
that ship.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm trying to know who you live.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
If it's gonna take me ten years to find out
who you really, I don't want no parts of that ship.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
The facts you kicking your fact, your big one. I
live this ship right on God, I live this ship.
I see it my own eyes.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So you have to thought about writing a book man.
I had a book. Man. I told you about the
book Women that I'm still writing. I talked about it
on Big Fan Big fac.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Too, which called women well way no w that old
that that that is well wait up I done started
when you drifting?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I don't know because they Steve is still retard that.
Every time I get there to wrap up a champ,
the bitch come through us the most ship.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I'm like, oh look, okay, got that now, caring On,
got that down.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, this nigga is crazy, man. So what you what?
What the book go do? Is it gonna help them?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's gonna you know how Steve Harvey did with their
told On It told all all being that wouldn't bitch
started going started thinking they know ship. So Steve Harved
lame man, shout out Steve Harv to blame in hell
for that, because you did a movie too with Kevin
Hart the like clowns and ship all in the movie
clame the.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But well what what women? What it was?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Who meant how how to think like a man? Why
would you tell a bit how to think like that?
And he told the ship that the truth. I'll be
snick doing that ship too. But he wrote a book,
and I swear I don't care if people got to
get memored.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Remember when that book first came out. Why you think
it's so big? You think Steve like took off.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That book sold more than a whole lot of books
because these women was literally thinking that they know a nigga.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Now you know, women had been.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Trying to feed this shit out for a long time
that nigga wrote that book. Some of them jewels he
was dropping in their motherbucks. The whole start got damn
feeding in towards finding out, Oh that.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Ship was true?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
This ill true, And they started using against nicks instead
of niggas being like.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, I'm a natural player.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You feel like it's just natural, Like I love women,
so I know how to treat them.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I know how to get to them, you know what
I mean. But everybody ain't got that ability.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
So if you ain't player, you ain't dealt with a
lot of women in your life.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You're gonna meet a couple on that's gonna talented.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yes, they gonna treat you like like you.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
The woman, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
And that's what that's where the roles reverse, because now
these niggas are the women. Just because you ain't got
no backbone, you ain't got no spin, like you just
gotta have some span.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Sometimes women have more and they do more, and you
know what I mean, they deserve everything.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
And I don't because I don't bash women. I love them.
I just be trying to tell them about themselves.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
So I would rather write a book about women than
just keep trying to talk about what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Like God, damn, we already go through them not just
being black men, period. Yeah damn. What else y'all want
from them? Like, you know what I mean, what you think?
What you think the biggest like the biggest disconnect. That's
a good question. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I don't know if this is the biggest disconnect, but
it's a it's a big disconnect and it's communication, you
know what I mean. It's communication, and it's conversation.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
That ship rules the nation. Now, conversation rus facts. I
don't do with fact how you look at it?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Facts? Do you think do you think a relationship is
the biggest distraction for a man? Not if she's his
piece for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Well yeah, it can be the biggest distraction and his
biggest accent.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Be grateful man, how we need it.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, But do you think a toxic relationship is the
biggest distraction for a man?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I'm gonna say that.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It depends on who's being toxic. Who's the toxic him
or hurt the relationship. But the relationship can only be
taxing people in the relationship, both of us, because I
could I could come in, I could come in and
hurt you, or you could hurt me and then you
hurt me back.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Now we both talx right.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
No, that ain't toxic until a toxic kid for relationship,
somebody like a narcissist like you know these new word
narcissists women like to use all them saying like this,
then new ship is like they came up. They found
the word in the dictionary cancel to describe their own self,
but so so to say a narcissist. For you to

(38:40):
call somebody a narcissist, you're a narcisst. To say somebody
as a narcissist makes you a narciss because he never
said you never said that, nay one time that my
mama never said. Nobody never told me narcissists and bruh,
And I said, they use that ship so much right now,
He's almost like, Bro, bitch you the fucking narsissy.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Do you know what I mean? Have you read the difference?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I did, But some of them shild add up to
some some of the ship I be doing though when
I read it, I ain't gonna lie. I think if
you read the definition of narciss everybody got some of
them tracks. And know that's not true because definition a
narcissist visual a person who makes everything about themselves. Bro,
and it's all about you. It's like nobody else fault

(39:26):
but your like you all want to not always, that's
what the narciss is.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Women fuck niggas. They can be fun niggas too. They're
the biggest fuck niggash because they be some they.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Be the main one, you know, point their finger and
what they used to tell her, how many fingers pointing
back exactly exactly. Women do this to us all day.
It don't matter what we do right or wrong. She's
still gonna find some kind of way to what we
did or wrong. Give a bitch everything, bro, and she
gonna want some more, like give her the world or

(40:00):
that bitch want the moon. She wants to start, she
wants this scot right. You can't have all that, bitch.
It's not normal to think you can have about it?
And what makes you think that.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
You deserve it? Who told? Who told you that you
deserve it? Like? What makes you think that you are
more important than me? Not even that? It's what makes
women think they're more important than.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, period, Like somebody I said it before, though, Jody,
you gotta think they was breaded that way because as
a kid, whether you would say she a girl though,
you get what I'm saying, Like, like I use this,
I use this analogy one time. If it was two
twins the same age, a boy and a girl. The

(40:48):
little girl can be pushing this nigga, slapping him in
Nolladay and he crying, shut up your boy. If he
pushed her down one time, you're gonna get his ass
condossial girl. So they was breaded that way.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's true, true.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
But they were also talk to like we we're talking
errors our erarors. Yeah, this error or when they don't
stand a change. Let me ask you a question. I
said I was gonna ask you to and I'm gonna ask.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
The world as well. Now be honest with me to bro,
I can't do nothing but be at it. Give you
my perspective for sure?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Who are the like you know who was young, we
had not role models, but people that we looked up to,
You know what I mean that? Like our uncles are
the big dope boy in the neighborhood who took care
of everybody else or even your grandmama or your granddad
a time. Shit, who are you looking up to these day?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Like?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Who do people look up to these days? Like like
Shamar like charleson White take your read like not knocking none.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Of them these people.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You feel what I'm saying, But I feel personally that
if it wasn't for social media, we wouldn't be licked.
We wouldn't see half of these people. So it's like,
what are we giving all kids in the community to
look up to now because everything that's popping to me.
If you want to call me a hater or whatever

(42:22):
you want to call me, I'm just giving my pin
that shit ain't funning to me.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Like that shit not entertaining me. I'd be seeing ship
every day on the phone.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I'd be like, oh, y'all laying if y'all laughing at it,
the people in the coming, everybody who liked it, You
lane too, what's.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
So funny about it?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like? And I'm just using example this ship breaking your boy,
the ship standing and ship that's.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Y'all picking of them. Really, it's really some pick a ship.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But you want us to everybody feel like, yo, he
doing man, Come on, man with client bad.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Way supposed to be where he was.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Now you're teaching our children, and you're teaching these little
kids who coming up that they can be you already
can be whatever you want to be.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
But bruh, some of this shit ain't cute. Bruh. Some
of this shit ain't cool.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
And just how everybody else thinking is that's the meaning
it is. Still the whole world can be thinking one
plus one equal three, all y'all students, because it equals too.
But you got people out here that will alterer me
down that of equals three and you will believe it
because they got beian alls or what if y'all's we

(43:35):
are they got Jerry wrong.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't give a damn while you're wrong. Who do
you look up to? That? Who is your inspirational.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
People that you can say that you look up to
and you get game from or when you see them
it it inspires you and makes you want to do better,
makes you want to elevate, and for you to think,
for you to do that, nobody see but for you
to do that. If we rewind the time and we

(44:10):
was eighteen nineteen twenty and you asked it that same question,
we'll come right out of the top.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Oh my uncle who because they gave us something to
look up to, you to follow, Bro, You're right, you're right.
We ain't got ship out here to follow.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
But but the Internet, a lot of niggas be on
the Internet. Nigga hit me in be like, Bro, God
nown what you're doing bank woo.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
That should help me.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
But what I tell them niggas is bro, Bro, I
hope I spark some, but I ain't your role mind because.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I wake up one day trip is that you know
what I'm saying. So I just realized I can't tell
a nigga nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I could just want to show them niggas, bro, for sure,
because I'm a stand on SIDEID I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I can just show you by now.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
If you're watching me and they help you like niggas
all the time, you hit me up like, Bro, I
just need.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
To talk to you, Bro.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't know what to tell you cause because your
mind already cor up. I know what to tell you,
but it ain't gonna add up to like you say.
It gonna sound like a hater if I come out
tell the unscut truth right now, I'm on podcast ship.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I tell my truth, but I don't tell the brutal truth.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Like how you do you know what I'm saying because
I already know it, ain't even really accept it.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I hold it up in a way where they get it.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
If that makes sense when you be telling the brutal Trooper,
it's just you've grown now to how you deliver it good.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
You see what I'm saying. I know you by to
fuck with you trying to get go. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
But you want to know one too, bro, So you
can't pamper it. You can't do that. Don't matter if
the whole world don't like us this, they business like
shit if you want to speak on but I just
like na, man, we gotta start twenty twenty five. Bro,
that's that's our role to stop letting this ship slide.
We let too much shit slide. I started going viral

(45:48):
when I said fuck everybody. Yeah, because why I gotta
agree with what y'all agreeing with? With everybody knowing their lane.
I be seeing people say ship and then go somewhere
and say something different.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, why you doing that, nigga? If you feel like that.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
So you think because of what they finna put in
these comments or what these people, what you finna be
reading people say about you, that they gotta change how
you think and your mores and what you know is right.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Be a part of that camera if I feel it,
and we were gonna be right every time. But I
felt that this is what I felt I wanted to say,
and this is what I said. So if I'm wrong,
then you correct me and we keep we keep pushing.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
You got any regrets.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Now, we won't do regrets because everything happened for a reason.
I believe in God. You got to do what you
change anything that if you thought about it like that,
I would change that.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I wouldn't be what I am. I wouldn't have made it.
I want to have made it. I wouldn't have made
I supposed to have been gone. I want to have made it. Bro.
Do you try to to expectations? Not at all mine? Yeah,
my expectations. What about like family and your kids and
your mother? No, not trying to be funny man.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Like out of my family, I'm one of the ones
who really went and did something, you know what I mean,
Like I really.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Want and try to help the community. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I really stood don't business. I stood don't what they
taught me, And it took me. It took me around
the world, took me places that I would have never
thought i'd been. Not even rapped, bro, like me rapping
and niggas. Notice like I know I can speak bro,
Like it's just something I know. I can do that
shit easier to me, I can do that shit. Wake

(47:34):
up and do that sh it ain't no problem. But
I be more concerned with the people that follow me,
Like like I want you to like.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Me for me before.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
If you want to say you're a fan of my rhymes,
raps and all that, I fuck with my fan because
when they see me, they know they can push up
on me. Wrap me up, man, Hey, brod, fuck with
you. You did that third and it's it's genuine.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I don't like the.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Love me today and hate me tomorrow type shit like
hate me today and to morrow you feel and just
stay over there like I don't.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
We ain't gotta do it. You unforgiving? God forgives.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, what you where do you take tact?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
You're like, I gotta get my lick back now. If
you hit me all, I'm gonna get my link back. Yeah,
I'm gonna get it back. If it takes ten years,
I'm gonna get your back.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You Patty. It's a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
When it when when I told you when you take
when I go there, petty, Paddy by Paddy got me
fucked up?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Hey, answer worded with the word first word come in
your head. That's a word with the word.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, what you mean I'm gonna give you a word
you asked it? What the word Okay? But yeah, it's
gonna be thirty of them. You're ready thirty God damn yeah,
I ain't no telling what say y'all. Listen whatever come
out of my mouth, bank did because I ain't no
word category though a trust, so you can't think I

(49:03):
must okay, communication.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Mm hmm. Communication, I'm trying to think of good words.
All you wanted to be saying makes me a little crazy.
You can't. You want me got but I do it?
But you want me to communication? You want me telling
me communication? Phone? Man, I'm trying to be giving game

(49:31):
this respected. It looks like give you some game anytime.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I got damn communications call me man, No, man, I
can do that all day.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
You want to do that? Not in the game, Bro,
We're gonna come back and be all me ballance. Oh
oh okay.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Vaulability, Bro, you ain't gonna make me just soun can
get some game. I'm showing down for Brodeare you be triggering?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You voting a little over there?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Brush, but listen, hold on the balance, keep it. Vulnerability,
try not to be try not to shoot.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Oh oh okay, you're here a wrong world. Okay, okay?

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Vulnerability all right, Jim said, yeah, all tak look vulnerability,
no loyalty, trust, forgiveness sometimes empty fuck, intuition needed, commitment,

(50:41):
don't need it them to words. Growth, it's a must,
that's a must. Conflict not today, attachment, I love you, love.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
This, boundaries I can't you want word, but I gotta
be like, go ahead, bro your words. He's like them boundaries.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Uh, don't cross mynd like, stay on your like, keep
your side like, don't cross mynd like.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Okay, except love.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You got to have adaptability, important, reflection mm hmm. Reflection,
I say sometimes flexibility always.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Compatibility depends good patient, virtue, chance, the rapper, identity, theft, support,
child strength, strengthens, honesty, lies, importance, importance, compassion mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
It's needed. Expression mm hmmm. Expression mm hmm. What can
I say for expression?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Oh, evolution, necess here, understanding, try you based, I mean,
last one, perspective, thanks, bread you.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Nigga jumps, tradingstweet, the whole game. I need to do.
That's how I'll probably be too, Like let me get
my ship off man, Hey, le me looking crazy saying
ship man? I already get enough about what I say? Hey?
What what?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
What you think the biggest challenge is just period for
you in life, like your biggest challenge. Huh well, right
now in this era, my biggest challenge is just dealing
with people.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
You know what I'm saying. I have a I just
have a problem with.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Fake liars, manipulators like bullshit.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I just I gotta.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
It made me feel some kind of way, So I'll
be trying to stay away from me as much as
I can. The world's so fucked up, right, man, Like,
you can't trust people, man Like, I can only trust
you to be who you are, Like I can only
damn trust motherfucker to be who I see they being.
And it ain't always been like this. So like, I'm
kind of like a cool dude, and I don't mind

(54:05):
meeting new people. And you feel what I'm saying or
catching vibe with people who understand life, like not just
what we do, but life in general. Likes more to
life than Wney called closing holes. You see what I'm saying.
I always say that it used to be rare for
a nigga to phone. Now it's rare for a nigga.
Stay solid. Yeah, when we stay solid, bro, we the problem.

(54:26):
Whenever you make the truth the problem. If you can
turn the truth into a lie, we fucked up. We
fucked up, Right, You got people lying all day every
day and somebody believe it. You know when we were
coming up, bro, like real talk, you have to you
have to prove that shit. And if you didn't prove it,
you barred from me telling somebody something you can't even

(54:49):
go tell nobody, then cain't nobody gonna believe because you
lied at one time. Never motherfucker lie sixteen times and
you believe we're all sixteen times?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
And you know these motherfuckers are don't do nothing but lie? Right?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
What we gonna win with it? That makes you gotta
stay away from people very y'all be lying to damn
much what you think the solution is, though we know
what the problem was. The solution to all this shit.
My solution is, but keep your circle small, stay prayed
up because you gotta pray facts. You feel prayer power.
It's more power than people think. And I know people
believe in what they believe in. And we got all

(55:24):
these different kind of gods and stuff and number, so
whatever you believe in, you're gonna have to You're gonna
have to buy down.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
You gotta buy down.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Cause we the human form. Bro, we fuck up fact,
and sometimes humans can't do that for all soul. You
know what I mean, can't do nothing for my spirit, bro,
because I know how I'm built, I know the words
coming out of my mind. I know I'm gonna touch
somebody when I talk. Become a leader. I'm not a follower.
I don't do what they do. I do what God
put on me to do. Like I'm just built like that.
But do you let me ask you a real question

(55:54):
or do you ever reject certain shit to God put
on you? I just like I cannot get on no
I have, I have, not knowing it. But you know
he'll He'll make your belief immediately. He'll show you. He'll
show you when you know when you didn't listen, like
because I can see certain ship that I know you'll
be good at that you probably wouldn't do because of
the world because it was going on like podcasts, your kid,

(56:16):
a book, writing a book, your kid.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It's like a nigga like.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Nah, I started to do it more like I'm telling you,
like even with just talking to seeing him talking to
you on your own, your platform. And I'm proud of you, bro,
you doing what you do because a couple of years ago.
You want to said you would be doing the podcast,
you would have said this ship know what it was
when they asked me to do.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
You know what I mean when y'all start a big fact.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Even when I came up there and we went outside,
you telling me like, hey, bro, you need the you
need to come this four years yeah yeah, and Brook
we go viral off that old ad clip. So just
just imagine like that ship old Big said that ship
three years ago, live with time when going up, and

(57:01):
it's all that what made me start being like when
the virush start going, I see these people keep taking
what I be saying off of old ass shit. It's like, okay,
now I'm gonna go to a certain platforms to where
I fuck with them.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
But you know, niggas be mixing your ship too now
like a motherfucker. I'll be seeing that, I be seeing
your me and you be up. We be on that motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying, Like nigga taking your word.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Niggas with podcasts, taking how they think you would think
and being you. You know that goes on like I
know they doing it to me like it's a nigga
that will study you like Joey don't know what he got,
so I'm gonna be Jody.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
It's niggas doing that. You know that, right, Nah? Because
I don't even pay that close attestion to I know,
I'm just saying, but that's how the world go.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Like you basically you aspiring niggas to do what it's
easy for you to do, what's natural for you to do.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
You get you know what I'm saying. For sure.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
That's always been a part of my life though like
it is with rap the same way when I was younger,
when I can't when I was doing this shit i
first came bro it w wasn't too many niggas like me. Yeah,
I stood out amongst this interest ship because it wasn't
a Jody Bridge. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It just it wasn't this type of ship going on.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
And I know I inspired a lot of these young
niggas who look like me right now doing what they're doing.
Because I remember y'all lit niggas you feel I remember
you telling me this. Yeah, but I'd never been the
type of person to come on here and say, hey,
look that little nigga right up their producer right here.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
That an all right, who all, y'all nigga changed from
the umbrella.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
When nigga drips auce on y'all, you feel what I'm
saying and y'all ran with it. You know what I mean?
Nah Man, I thank you great, Bro. I know you
got a great spirit.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Your energy always on punt with me since since you
was a young nigga and I was a young nigga.
Your energy always been the same, man. And I just
want to tell you, Bro, I see you doing some
great ship like you always did. I appreciate that bringing
death for you, but I do book of the week,
and this week the book is the gem and not personality,
understanding the twin of the zodiac.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
So y'all want to understand these niggas, go get that book.
I tell you it gonna be hard.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
A Gemini, Bro, were the most loved and hated sign
that it is. Yeah, because you can say any sign
that it exists. But when you say Gemini, oh ship,
I don't don't who they is. Your thing can be
the most fucked up one it is. Anyway, you still

(59:22):
want to say a Gemini? What about a Gemini?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
What? What? What makes a Gemini that bad? And you
want to know what. Make sure let's see it. They
SkELL it.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
One thing about it. A Gemini, a real one like
that's in tune with themselves.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
They gonna tell you the truth, but naked, and that
truth hurt. If don't nothing hurt, nobody.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Tell them the truth that the mirror it gets dead,
Untiday were the mirror is soaking to them, brou And
I sure got been like this in my whole, like
I don't get along with my family members and nobody.
I don't get along with nobody. You see what I'm saying.
And they said me, of course it's me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It's the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It's the truth, bro, It's a mirror like like people
people don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
People don't understand that most geminis like this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
If you wrong me, I'm gonna wrong you so bad
it's gonna make me look wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That's what it is, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Like you can come to you motherfucker and spit on
me and camera don't see it, but I shoot you
in your motherfucker face.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I'm wrong exactly if you can't tell me how to
react exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Exactly, And that's the problem. And I wouldn't even just
say just Gemini, but it happened to us the most,
but people in general. Bro, if people with know like
if you, if you do something to somebody, you can't
dictate what the fuck I'm finna do to you facts,
you can't dictate that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
And one thing about us, bir we ain't starting shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You can't tell me when it let shiit go either
that too, you can't tell me when to let it go.
I'm not letting it go because I didn't start that
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You did. You thought I was playing, You thought I
was somebody to play with it. You thought I was sweet.
You finish can't diabetes, bitch? Ye want to follow you
and Joey when we got covered up?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Bro, Man, listen, man, I ain't don't do the internet
ship like that. So if you do want to get
at me some kind of way, I'm on Instagram. Unlet's breeze,
underscore y g are I think I got Facebook pages
and Twitter X pages and all that ship too, I don't.
I don't really do all that, but I have started
to get my own part of cast ship. Please, bro,
bring on this I just built, but when you got

(01:01:36):
to come, I just built a nice little spot to
where I can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
That I got a whole little campaign. Bro, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go ahead and do it. And the book,
the book.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Too, that's it's called women. Let me say this about
y'allfo I leave, let me let women know so before
I leave, And I'm gonna respect my brother platform.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Now, dude, you do hell your business. I'm gonna respect.
I'm gonna respect it though.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I want to tell women right, and I love y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
My mama's a woman. I got little girls, brouh like
I love women.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
But let me tell let me tell all y'all. So
if we go, it's twenty twenty five too. All the
year we don't win, are going back and forth with y'all.
Man when this woman, this woman, that man that I'm
gonna tell you what gonna make every relationship easier for
us all. And before I say this about the women, men, brouh,

(01:02:39):
we fuck up naturally. In fact, who was born to
fuck up? It's not an excuse. God just made us
like that. But he's the one who ate the fucking apple.
That's the bitch you snuck. That's the bitch you got
snuck by a snake.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah we will sleep. Yeah, you come waking me up
with the bullshit, bitch. Okay, so let me explain this
to y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Go ahead, take some fucking accountability for your mother fucking actions.
Once y'all do that, once women take accountability for their actions,
we'll be all good, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Once women start.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
And men that they be wrong majority of the time,
and and we we be right. You can because we
men like we're supposed to leave y'all. We're supposed to
tell y'all what we're supposed to tell y'all. But it
ain't no fault y'all be picking them niggas back. Ain't
the niggas they treat you. Don't blame all of us
for them like a mass niggas. Now all were kind,

(01:03:37):
we ram donna be mad. Don't ram, bitch. I know
I'm rare. You can't find me. You can't replace me, bitch.
You could talk about me like a dog. I'm gonna
bark till I'm out this bitch. I'm still barking, bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Ruth ge Way Hey makes y'all likes to drive to
come into the big fat Network perspective. Bank Shoutside of
my nigga Joe and my part of the podcast, smoking mirrors.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Oh that's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I want to be on episode ten. I'll claim episode teen. Man,
I'm bringing throughout the rook jeffering.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Little to say that whenever you read I'm ready, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
So keep doing what you're doing, Bron, I don't care
about won't tell you. I am appreciate you. You want one,
Keep hopping that ship and on letting ful faders to
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