November 11, 2024 • 64 mins
Big Bank sits down with special guest OG Shawty Giant to discuss growing up in Atlanta, the challenges and dynamics of street life, the impact of community, his personal highs and lows, including a life sentence and his journey to overcome adversity. They also unpack the current state of the streets and the loss of hope among the youth, his launch of a nonprofit aimed at supporting individuals reentering society after incarceration, the complexities of political figures like Trump, the responsibility of voting and much more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in
June to perspectives with big bang.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get straight to it. It takes too many emotions
to give. It takes zero emotion not to welcome to
the perspective back today, I got my Knigga in the
building with me. The shout John, oh g shout at John?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
What's up? Upon? How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Super woman, super wom blessed. I always asked people first
question is like where you're mentally at right now?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Relax?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Relax, relax.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I ain't never heard nobody say that. Relax What that means?
Found on that?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What that means not not you know, not trying to
move too fast, not trying to move too slow at
a pace? Yeah, taking some different stuff out, you know
what I mean? Well, wow, I'm figuring it out. Not speed. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. That makes sense to make
an honer sense. So people that might not know you,
(01:00):
who is shout of giant? Where you're from? What you
standing on? Who are you?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean shout a giant.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean I can't even really I can't put it
in a nutshell, but I think speaker who I am?
I'm really just a native from Atlanta, right, who kind
of been there for a minute. I think I'm I
think I'm four decades in the game. Yeah, yeah, maybe five.
I don't know, got made, you know, But serious now, man,
(01:36):
I'm saying I ain't you know a lot of people
be trying to put a whole bunch of rep on
their name and all that. I mean, I'm giant, that
pretty cool brother that growed up around the streets on
the projects, you know, recreational football always all the way
up to the game. So I pretty much the brush
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shoulders everybody. And to be honest with you, I think
I know too minimal.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Me too. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to
downside that, y'all. You when you ask to what y'all job?
I think that might be the next year. Just know
too many motherfucker you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, because you know, knowing too many motherfuckers that end
up putting a lot of expectations on you.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean, I growed up dude in the first grade.
He feels like I on when we all the nine
you know what I'm saying, Ship like that?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How you so coming coming?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Up. It was what single single parent household to my
my house, old grandmama.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
How you raised where you raised that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We were pretty much single parent you know, pretty much
the norm. You know probably how the project was, you know, yeah,
pretty much the single parents. But you know how how
now growing up with certain type of strong women, you know,
build a village. Yeah yeah, so Grandmama stayed with us.
We won't even like to have a dog. We had
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a picture, you know what I'm saying, like that and
then come to brothers, he'll come to sisters, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So pretty much single time dad wasn't around.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, he had all the agyendals you know, yeah,
the streets grabbing them early. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We had different we we kind of had the same
We kind of had the same fight in a way,
but his was he was mostly fight.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Like a drug edition in the streets. Pretty much. That
grabbed me.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know, it's still end up being what we had
in come was an absence, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What what age was when you got introduced like to
the streets like then on my side, now, oh, ship
right out of talent shows and ship I think we
were doing talent shows. We were.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think round.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Eleven, you know, twelve somethe Yeah, house having a little
different stuff going on with my mate really having enough
end make an end to make ends meet. So I
mean it's like you said, I got to be outside
and I'm the oldest.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So it's almost like.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You you see these people need you know what I'm saying,
independent enough, you know you will take on that challenge
when you came out there, what you came out of
off poor doing like before with the like major huss
when you came up with your first pity hustle, will
my first petty huse. We had something in Husks because
you know, I'm kind of I'm I'm I'm from the
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zone three areas.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, we had so many different from.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Till tapping and doing our That's that's almost you know,
like you know, you're going downtown and you fake like
you're arguing with each other, and then when the when
the tendant who's supposed to be watching the car come
out there and be trying to break out up, you
done went over there and when in the cash draws.
You know what I'm saying, stuff like that. And you
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back back before the criminal styles style of hustling came about,
we used to do stuff like go to the grocery store,
common stuff. We'll go down there. We'll go down there.
And we figured out the way to rig up down
at the at the gold what it was, the gold Man,
(05:30):
the gold Man, And.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, we figured a way to rig up the game.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So if you got money, we'll give you a bunch
of credits to give a half or you know something.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think with the clothes hanging some some of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Them now, man, you know, and then you know, I
growed over some of the greatest.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So they game never stopped. They created created soon as the.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Soon as soon as whoever the law, soon, whoever was
on the other side of the law come up with
a way to stop this, they created something else.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Already ready it's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Hey, do you do you remember times when niggas thought
like come from other big cities to the sound like
this ship was.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Just candy sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, man, I remember back and I remember back in
the day. Man, it wasn't even really the energy wasn't
even giving out like that. And we wasn't even really
receiving it. Like I remember, it was really like all
little greed bring people in. I remember back in the
day when run them, see them used to come right,
and we ain't really have the money to go into
the concert, so we'll just go down and be standing around.
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But shew York in the building, fat shoe string cano.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And a kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Beata suits the big roads. Then before we even got
a chair to come off the porch with it having
the same type of no problem when nobody starting wh nobody,
you know what I'm saying, I scrilled a mean mugging
and nothing for we really out there really watch them
break dance, you know what I'm saying. So I can't
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remember until like the drugs hit, it started looking like
they was, you know, invading with some kind of you know,
the extra taking over type ship. You know.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Once once upon time.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We was kind of scarce on them having artillery and
stuff like that, you know, if you come from somewhere
like how they want to not to speak coming so much.
But when like when the boys came from down down South,
we weren't really ready. So when they came, you know,
it's kind of like it wasn't no easy takeover, but
they kind of had us.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It was a little more power and they had the
money and the dope. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That. So it was kind of one of the situation
where you know, that was I remember back and they
were when that was kind of one of the first takeovers.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know what I'm saying, try or temp takeovers that
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, y'all too tough for up here, man, y'all, y'all,
y'all said at all, y'all don't relay down. I'm just
telling than Yeah, y'all, don't relate down. Y'all like y'all
more so, y'all like to be players first. Yeah, for sure,
she ain't gonna be nobody whole never.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You know, I read life.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I raised my kids like that a little bit. You know,
like they not extra bad, they're not extra managed. Yeah,
but they'll do some little different stuff, you know what
I mean. In the same time, you know, they ain't
gonna be your soft, your cushion, You're sureman, whatever you
want to call it, they ain't.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Gonna be that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but
you think the.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
The the biggest difference is from like when he was
hustling in the nineteen eighties and nineties to now.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What's the biggest difference, I'm I think just.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The game has switched up so much, man to to
to to put it to kind of put it in
a nutshell. Unruliness. They people that ain't nobody want to
don't nobody want to follow no rules. You see what
I'm saying, cold just is out the door. You know,
it's just certain things you can't you used to couldn't do.
Every regard is about who you belong to. Say you
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can't do that, right, you know, he gonna let you
know you can't do.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That round him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now it's a little different. Well, they just don't really
have no rules, you know what I mean. They don't
want to follow them. They have them because they still
they never changed, you know what I'm saying. You know,
you don't supposed to be shooting over here with this
old lady state where you'ren't supposed to be stilling theirself.
But you know the way they look at the way
they move now, it's like, yeah, you know the respect it, Yeah,
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that's what's what you think. The disconnect there between the
old niggas and the young nim The old nigga got
so in fact, it's scared on yep, exactly what it
is exactly. I keep saying that everything I be tripping,
I say that it just scared me your knee. And
see that's the whole thing. Like for me, it ain't
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enough for me. See if if if a lot of
mes can come together, yeah, I mean we can show
them me ain't scared. But you know, I ain't gonna
be running up off Meek nom by my mother. But
what I'm saying, but it's just like then fuck with me,
young nigga. They don't care, So you kind of do
gotta be scared of the nigga like gone, because I'm
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scared what you gonna make me do. But I ain't
scared what you're gonna do to me. I'm scared what
you're gonna make me do. Yeah, but they all still
gonna ball down the power because you know what I mean,
like we gotta take the power back. Like like I mean,
we scared because they done took the power. I'm just
telling you, Like if you think about.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It, like.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
When we were growing up, we all medic new It
don't matter, you know how, because I mean we we
was a little feisty, yeah, but it really didn't matter.
It didn't really matter how feisty that you was when
you got eight nine more other o gez around you
that ain't really going for that. You feel what I'm saying.
But the thing about it, well, I'm gonna tell you
what I think too. Though it's so many niggas that's
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getting older and waking up. It's like them nigga ain't
in the street back in our day. Them nigga was
still in the street getting money because it was sweet.
The streets so fucked up that the old niggas ain't
in the streets no more. Yeah, but I'm just talking
a little past your streets. I'm talking about just period
as a race of people now, like it's like it
done got so bad to well disrespect just on another level, no,
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no facts, you see what I'm saying. So it's almost
like we whether you cleaned up your act or whether
you still move around in the street, it's got to
be still something that you know, kind of established.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Like, man, I don't really I ain't really.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Here to try to tell you what to do, but
you can't do that right here or whatever it is
to make sure something, you know, be back, re establish
what a respect gotta be man, I'm saying, I'm saying
right right the day I got some I got a friend.
They they family live in like one of what do
(12:13):
you call the senior home, And sometime I go by
there and see a mom, see a couple of uh
other older mothers that there the right when I get
over there one day, the folks tell me something like
they don't start breaking the the people called the cold
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ship fatic that shipatic, you're breaking the need? Got a car,
you know what I'm saying, breaking the need? Folks call
and see for real, real that should be the type
of ship what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like this didn't even gottenhing to do with this, hasn't
even gotten hing to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Turn this on sixty.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
She ain't even got nothing to do with whether or
not this street about nothing. When you think it went
left like that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Uh, it wasn't left when I think it really was
real left when I when when a nigga, I think
it really was left when a nigga who's a natural
bond hustler turned to a jacket. Yeah, when nigga started
getting extra high all the extra hog ship ye double cupping, yep,
popping the pill smoking that that real ship back to back.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You're just out your mind, just high. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Relate to nothing, what real real not saying? Really yeah
yeah looking at me stupid and I just told you
something that was some good ship on jewels. You know,
back in the day, we used to think, I guess
you can get somebody out of the street that ain't
got nothing if you got some whills you want to
hear because it's almost almost like what we were saying
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back in the day, like putting nothing down on some
different stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You know what I'm saying that we really need help
to continue to grow. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Do you remember like the highest point in your life
and the lowest point, Like I know when I was
at my highest end, at my lowers, I was at
my highest. To be honest with you, some of these questions,
I don't want to rush through them because take your time. No,
I want to stay on point because I know people
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gonna be watching it. I don't want a nigga be
thinking I'm just up in flex sh.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Sh ship.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Really, you know what I'm saying because this should go
past just sitting right with bank.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I want a nigga to understand what so my highest
my highest?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think my highest when we were growing up man
with no words. Yeah, we know we can come ourselve
out without getting shot. You know your mama gonna look
out for us the way my mama gonna look out
for you. I think will niggas be thinking about when
you ask something, When you ask that question, some people
think niggas think about money, Yeah, think about that will
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be high? Yeah, No, because you think about where you
was the happiest at That's yeah, that's right, that's your highest.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When I used to really play throw up tackle exactly,
and then it don't matter about because you my brother,
my blood brother, you got the fighting with my best
friend rain in it.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I ain't got nothing to do breaking it up and
then you hit you.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, well figure that out. Throw the ball back
on the ball to you. Not that that that could
be considered as my highest. When we used to play
with ca motherfucking lightning bulls. Yeah, play hide and go
seek and how and go get no word, you know
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what I'm saying, No word like that? Breaking into swimming
pool at night, you know what I mean, just to
swim nigga, nigga come from nigga, come from the swimming pool.
Excuse me, excuse me, the nigga turn. But you come
from the swimming pool and fall asleep outside of the
fucking paul kitching sunstroke and like that, hate to go
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in the house, man, man, somebody what you outside? Nigga
crying walking in the house. And then and then if
if you had to be made she you really want
to bring you want to bring.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Your crew with you? Well, can't they spending ny But.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Like it's something, it's something right in now I could
consider that's my highest that my lords. I mean, you know,
I say this so much and I'm I'm doro telling
this story because I'm it's old. But and then know
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it's always some new people that don't want to you
from speaking about Yeah, you know, because this is real,
but it's it's it's all with storytelling. Yeah, And every
time I talk about it, I had to go into
telling the story, which is when I call a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I had a like center, which I think everybody fucking
know now because.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Just being said repeatedly, But yeah, I think that was
my he and the judge hit the guy, hit the
the growl uh and say you got life. I think
that's one of the worst feelings that anybody could feel.
And I think that that is one of my worst
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feeling considering losing family members or something like that. But yeah,
but I think that personally for me, that was it was.
It was different what type of mindset you had to have,
like like going back in the back, walking in the back,
like right then, where your mindset it's it's it. And
I tell people that say a lot man tell people
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the truth, like you know, when we're talking about what
we swapping jail stories and stuff like that or whatever.
You know, you can be havel went to jail, but
until you have had that particular burden that you had
to carry, you don't really feel me. You know what
I'm saying. I know you, not you person, say anybody,
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but you don't really feel me. When I'm talking about
that's that's a different.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, when you're saying you ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Go home, yeah, I mean don't know. Yeah, yeah, So
it's almost like it will. It's it's to what type
of mindset you have. It you have to have you
ain't really really it begins to it begins to lead it,
it begins to grow a little past mental when you
start digging spiritually. Now, yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah,
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because that's the only.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Thing gonna hold hold you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now that you're gonna have to some kind of way
have spiritual and your mental running parallel, which your spiritual
and take on have to get a little greater than
anything else. I mean, you out there, you know you
out there. Man, Just just think about it now, the folks,
just think think about the folk. Drop you out there
in the middle of the see on the medle of
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the ocean. Ain't no boat around, Ain't nobody to talk to,
Ain't nobody who's you gonna be? Start calling? Then I
can't call him. I can't swim, So its over with me.
I'm saying, you're gonna go spiritual whatever, be grateful, you
help me, you go this. Yeah, I'll give what you're saying.
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That's crazy how you put that. You're saying, basically like,
sh ain't ain't nobody I can't even talk to about
this man, when your parents even tell you, ain't nothing
I can do. Baby, you're turning and told you.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Ain't the not gonna do so how you how you
get it overturned? You know how you come home?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Man? I just stayed fighting, you know what I'm saying,
Just stayed fighting, you know, just pretty much you know,
kept on, you know, taking my time, trying to dig
up things that could properly help, you know what I'm saying,
change the perspective of how the jurors and everybody else
looked at the situation.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It's kept fighting. Took a few it took a little,
it took a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But you know, like I would be down the road
really and I would be having more fun than you,
and you ain't got much too it. You'll be thinking,
I ain't not necessarily having fun, but I just didn't
let it just drag me. So you'll be thinking, like,
you know, ain't no way possible that I got some
kind of sentence that I got out here. But at
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the same time, I would be in the acting with
the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying, just to just
to keep coping, playing sports, doing different stuff, you know,
getting money, whatever it took, stay afloat mentally, like you said,
you know what I mean, how you how this shit shift,
you like when you came home with your mindset, well,
when you got.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Home, I said, when I came home, I just really
I just kind of like I came out me personally.
I came out.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I came out the gate running because I just felt
like I was. I really never accept that I was
gonna be there, because I already know who I pray
to and how hard I pray when I be praying,
So I know, ain't nothing bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So I already knew at some point I was gonna
come home.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So once I kind of started getting over you know,
a few years in there, and started being able to,
you know, maneuver, highlight the maneuver, my mind had already
kind of adjust to being back out here with y'all.
So I wasn't even never stuck. So my mind already
on some money, pick up the pieces, pick up the pace,
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let's get back to it, you know. So me, I
come out the gate, you know, really running, So all
the things that I really was thinking about that I wanted,
you know, all the things I feel like I missed
out on, I wouldn't have got it, you see what
I'm saying. So my mind was pretty much you know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It pretty had never died.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It hadn't really you know, it got sucked into how
the system can suck it, It suck you in sometimes,
so yeah, I pretty much came. I would kind of
look at my mom. My mom used to always be
saying stuff like, but you don't change. And let me
tell you something, sometimes you can be the change with
you and you haven't been paid attention to. So some ways,
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some ways I had got a little more uh tighter,
you know, selfish, you know, indirectly selfish, not knowing you
know what I'm saying. The love wasn't was emotionless. You
feel like people left you for dead.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
At first.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know, I grew up in them. When I got
out there, it was probably I was twenty somethings, So
you know when I at first, you know when you
when you think about it, you know, you want to
blame a whole whole bunch of shit on a whole
bunch of people, you know what I'm saying. As you
grow developed different ways of how you look at things,
how you think about things.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, I started looking at it totally different.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And even though I don't feel I didn't feel like
nobody old mean nothing I still have to feel grudge,
you know what I'm saying, Like, Nigga, I tell you,
niggased to take care of you before you left and
do this and do that, and you ain't even neverna
rope me up, stop by mam crib and be like,
how you doing? You know what I'm saying. So it's
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a nigga like that that felt my wrath when I
got out. Don't ship you know what I'm saying. Don't
don't do that, you know, And nigga be like John,
I got tight as here. Did you break into promises?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You know how?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
When you when you're in a fucker situation, they be
praying to God seeing all types of shit.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Did you breaking the promise? You made it up when
you got back up?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Man, we all do that. Yeah, yeah, man, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Man. Let me tell you something. My situation was so crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I got my case overturned. I got my case overturned
in motion for new trial. I'm in the hole at
the time and got into it somebody. I'm in the
hole at the time when they brought me to the whole,
I'm in that motherfucker singing Tupac that in my mind
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that that that that almost almost like you invincible type.
So I started, I start, you know, I started really
bragging on my blessing instead of receiving them the right way. Man,
I promise you it never happened. It never happened. It's
the first time we ever seen this happen. I had
a thing what you call a rebutter hearing. So while
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the officer came and got me out, he was like, look,
you gotta hear you gotta hear it anymore. I was like,
ain't no way I got to hear. And I just
got my case overturned. I ain't even got no time.
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You be like, you know you do? I like it
muther be some kind of default in the system. So
I go back over there. When I get over the
atturney like, uh, I see my turning, So that ship
must be seer.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I said, what's up? So what's you like? Shit?
We just got a little We just got a little
butter here. I said, what is that?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You know at the time, I ain't telling them what
was going on, And yeah, said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We should be straight. He said, I don't think that
the same judge that overturned your case will come back
and reverse it back in their favor. I still membim
exact word. So I was like cool, and we went
back to court. Man, See, yeah, this is the thing
that I was trying to tell you. My burden was
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get a licence. They snatched it away from then they
get that motherfucker back.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
After how long ship? In a few months? So I said,
how long you have been in there? I probably been
in there like two years? Okay, probably probably.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I probably went to try around about the third year,
close to the third year. Yeah, But once I got
the time, we went right back. It's it's three. It's
three stages that you can go through. It's I mean,
I think it's four. It's been a long time, black,
but I think it's three.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think it's.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Motion for a new trial. You go to the Pillars
court and then you can go to like a federal stage,
and once you once you it's all those remedies you did,
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I never rushed.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was just taking my time. I was like, old, look,
I ain't gonna just because I was seeing people who
jumping out there, they be so ready to get out right.
It's a jump out the fire as files and once
you file it, you can't file it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You can't file back in that in that area number E.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Once it denied, it denned, so you got to go
to the next stage. And then I took my time
with that a little bit. But on my from the
beginning of the motion for a new trial, I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Got a granted.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That was what I heard of too. You know, the
same courtroom that gave me any time turned around and
granted me a motion for a new trial. And that's
when I got a little cocky. I was feeling myself
talking in my head, I'm coming home. Yeah, everybody, y'all
through everybody act like they did this, you know, talking tough,
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all the extra shit, telling a girl she did wrong.
You know, just how just bring up all kinds of
ship that wasn't necessary. It was necessary, but you know,
don't get too cocky too fast. By instantly, man, God
took it right back from me. So now I got
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to go down the road in a fight. And that's
how that transition.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
How long you had stayed in there where you actually
came on my did ten year?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah? Yeah, but they overturned on technicality, you went back
to trail. They overturned on Ah, they overturned new discovery
over day.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, you ain't been an seen.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, now you see that.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm sitting on the show with you talking. That's all
I'm ready to right now. I hain't been beat, no
push over playing like that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
No, sir, no, sow what you think the tempture in
the streets he is right now? You know it kind
of fucked up like twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two.
What you think the tempt is right now? Not even
just Atlanta streets?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Period?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just like I said, I just think that.
I just think everybody ain't really they ain't following no rules.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
The police really can't even tell nobody what to do
no more.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I mean it's just like I mean, not even the
police authorgists who have got the power with authority can't
even tell them. So this thing ain't nobody listening to ship.
Nobody got to say. And they moving how they moving?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And for the young crew, they are they done lost hope,
the hope factor just gone, you know what I mean,
not back in the day. But we just have a
little hope. Yeah yeah, yeah, you saying like them niggas
just feel like but it's it. Yeah, it's all or nothing. Yeah,
(29:47):
I don't been in that space too though. I felt
like that, but I ain't. I ain't feel like that.
Dam I want to crash because of that though, Well,
you weren't really you want you know, when I cut
into you, you wasn't really what we cut into each
You wasn't really crash material. You was you was old.
It was over on the other end. You more like,
(30:07):
no play off first, I ain't ain't. Yeah, for trying
to get his mind. Yeah, I don't really want a
lot of extra going on, you know, but you have
some folks around you, do you You believe in a strategy,
You believe in this that whole duct Taste ship, Like
(30:36):
you don't remember that time we was on poors and men.
You're sitting over there trying to act like that we
ain't got nothing to do with what day over there?
This this nigga keeps putting the camera on men. Yeah,
we're trying to hide the niggas ain't even a duct taste.
But I get all the backlash from the niggas. Who
y'all beefing with? What the niggas went to talking about that?
(30:59):
Look at him? They put the camera right back on me.
I think I had grey handed this nigga need to
be at home with his grand shot. Ship, tell y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You know we were black.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We cut you know.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I don't even know why to let you trick me.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
To my child John stay on the where up in
the films some hall. I was like, Ship, I'm gonna
sit down, sitting down here looking like I need to
be at home with grand I ain't got no branchure
in time.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You got caught in the crumb man, I'm trying to
tell and it went by.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yuah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
There was the day too, ain't gonna lie. I had
some moments, bro, you know what I'm saying. Everything do
you feel like everything that happens supposed to happen? Well,
not everything that happened, it's supposed to happen, because I
do believe in too. I do believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Involuntary suffering.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Involuntary suffering, that's hard, it's hard. Ain't never heard that
be from him, And that's what of that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And that's one of my biggest challenges that I myself.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know, I don't never want to have my situation,
so it's easy to do it that it's Roger, Yeah,
stud shit need to be mean. You know what I'm saying.
I meant to do this. Nah, I've said, do you
believe in like signs and shit astrology? I mean, I
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definitely believe in science, because I mean, that's the closest
thing to what's real. But I'm not that deep into
it to say how much I believe in it.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I listened to certain breakdowns and it makes sense, you know,
you you that's one of your things.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I fucked with the I don't. I don't. I ain't
gonna say like I don't know, like you know, the
stars and all that ship the line. I don't know
how that.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I just know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Gemini at like a Gemini, Scorpio at like a scorpio,
A Libra at like a libra all on my meat.
They all a you know what I'm saying, like each
they don't. They're not the same people. They don't have
the same character, but it's like the same traits when
they come down to emotions and different things of that
nature or MANNIORYTHM.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
They got a human connection. But they all are different.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Everybody different. Like when I said you're a Scorpio or
you a Gemini. You this like all geminis retarded. But
they all.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't think y'all retarded.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
There's two people, y'all, y'all about four five different.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But at the end of the day, all of them,
some of them can channel their energy and make it
something else instead.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Of like Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Him oh ship black, but.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Nah, I just know yeah, yeah, I know what I'm saying.
But them niggas don't.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They don't know how to really got damn die that
ship down a little bit, bro crazy. Now. I was
watching this man man, no, he he he's some special man.
They said that the lady had an ill piece of
the ear. They were telling him what to say or something.
Ain't no telling him. That's she Trump. I mean, buddy,
(34:33):
one't buddies you think Trump that bullshit? Trump that bullshit.
I don't think he's that bullshit. He definitely not that bullshit.
He just he can be that bullshit. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that you know some
stuff here that he's standing there, want to come the power.
(34:55):
I respect it because you need that. That's what he
was basically talking about. Next see everybody listening to something
that he wasn't saying. He's saying and I don't know
how true it is, but I'm just saying his argument,
just speaking of what he's saying is, bro, were not
respected right now and the day I'm making pay for
us to god damn pro protection. They had to pay.
Everybody had to pay all his points. We was bro
(35:18):
way y'all, y'all, y'all moving pipes and doing this ship
like getting punked. Basically he like poo wouldn't even be
doing all that. But I wonder how much of how
much of that Trump say some ship that don't really
be true, what zero confidence facts want to And he
(35:41):
was going out on the faith. He himya on, you
tell you one more time. I'm gonna be honest with you, man,
like you got some over there were coming if if
if if it was Trump, if if it was Trump
that I had to face, I would feel the same
way they feel because that motherfucker's crazy for real. You
know you want them once you remember forgot back in
(36:02):
the day man, we used to be going to the
fights back when we were young. Man man that man
was a gangster them man that was in the man
was affiliated in real mob like ship for something, you
know to a certain degree, you know what I'm saying,
So for real life to to to to excel to
that particular level of power. I take my hat out
(36:23):
to him because I seen his traveling, you know, just
with anybody, like when you when you go from now
to dare, from now to there, I mean, I gotta
respect it. Same thing like with you vice versus I'm
gonna give you a flyer before I leave. But definitely
the same thing, like when you see people you know
made a transition and emerged from in here, Like he
(36:46):
just went from being on the fucking reality show playing
what's the name of the relation a prinice apprentice.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I'm saying he went.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
From death to speaking or possibly becoming the president of
the United States one day and really manifest that to happen.
I saluted. Yeah, I don't know if I follow up
on a lot of stuff because I don't really see
you saying what I'm saying, Like, I don't know, like
because they told me the Project twenty five ship and
(37:15):
I'm told against that. But Trump said he ain't got
anything to do with that. Tr Trump said a lot
of ship. He ain't got nothing to do and got
lots of ship. Doell he tell you he just said
that black. He just said some ship to the whole
room right outside. You're like to say that, you know
(37:35):
what I'm saying. I just see it like that.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
You know, I.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Ain't really played about it. He ain't worried about what
you hate? Man? Why you He basically saying, why you
repeating that ship? Then stood that ship?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know what I'm saying. He wanted to guy, that
ain't the first prison I ever heard calling the nigga
shitch a snitch. Goddamn Trump, that cold nigga bro man.
But he just out loud. I think all of them
the same way. He just out loud with it. I
mean I think something, I think I think a lot
of them republished can be really cruel, and you know,
(38:16):
and like I said, heartless at some degree in something,
and sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You need it, you know that nigga.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Trump said, God mamn, we got a president who he
don't even know if he're alive.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He said a lot of little different, crazy shit.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now I sit there and watching him, I'm like, he
just don't give a fuck. He acting like he ain't
running for He acting like he ain't in no presidential
debate now because he knowing that he had too. Now
what Trump knows is he not going and he's not
trying to get no new people. He trying to rally
up all his people that feel like fuck, they don't
(38:50):
fucking with Trump. So that's why he's standing on his
side of they like me for me, me being me.
If I try to do anything else, it ain't gonna work.
I ain't gonna have the same people follow me. He
ain't gonna have the same people that follow him because
they ain't following him for telling you in your face. Yeah,
I just said that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They follow him because he the type of tell you
in your faith. I ain't just say that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I just said that. You know what I'm saying his
people is, it's but there's more people in the world
like that. They low you to him. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if I mean vote for that. I
probably vote for the local vote. Oh yeah, that's that's
what's so crazy right now about this particular presidential race.
(39:35):
I don't think that. I think that people is so
indecisive on who they want to vote for. They really
don't want to vote. But you know it's we got
a responsibility black because it was once upon time that
we didn't even have the right to do it. Mm yeah,
back to what I said. I said, I don't know
(39:57):
if you heard, because you know you said we had responsibility.
We especially as a black race, we got a sponsibility
to vote because it was one's Like I said, at
one point time, they didn't even give up, but.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They said this ship really don't even count on the vote.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Who there was they told us about this show Electoria,
Like yeah, Stevie Badge just told us. He said, you
can't even that ship, don't even your votes don't even count.
Like a nigga win all the votes from the people,
but lose the Electoria College shit, you lose the thing
about it with me, I don't want to get that deep,
(40:34):
but I know I will watch some ship once upon
time and they was like they were killing niggas because
they won't the vote. So I'm just a different kind
of nigga. Since she was doing some shit like that,
I got the vote. You know what I'm saying, You
didn't have my vote like that. You vote for them
(40:55):
I'm vote for I'm a man of or respecting power.
But at the same time, I'm a Democrat. Yard what
makes you a Democrat? Now? It got that soft ass
ship with me. You know what I'm saying, Love the
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people for the people. You know what I'm saying, you know,
not just the rich, you know what I'm saying. Or
so middle class on the class, on the dogs. You know,
just because I come from it, you know what I'm saying.
So it's been it's been part of my heart for
you know. So I mean I ain't the type that
I see eight of y'all jumping on somebody and because
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of all us together, I'm just gonna come jump in it. Yeah,
I'll be more so like black y'all trick. You know
what I'm saying. Might don't stop it, you might be
to get it some deserve. But what I'm saying, that's
just how my that's how my heart is.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
No for real me too. What's some ship that you.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That you look at no.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Person now you look back like damn I was stupid
head when I was doing that ship.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Uh, have multiple women at one time, you know, like
you know that that's one of the that's one of
my things. I look back and be like.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
That ship.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Really, you ain't just I was stupid. That ship stupid.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I mean, you know what's multiple? What do you mean multiple? Two?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Ship? What anything more than one?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Blas? I mean you kind of look, my man, that
shit a headache.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Man. You can't spend two. You can't spend Thanksgiving the
two places, much less three. You can't spend Christmas in
the morning. I mean, it's just a shit. Just become
a headache more than you know. When you was younger
had the energy for it because one nothing really locked
locked in, you know, but when you get a little
(43:01):
older you start thinking about it. Yeah, it's a lot
of extra you know what I'm saying. You know, I mean,
and I'm not saying that you need to if you
ain't really selling your hard way, you really really do that. Yeah, nigga,
ain't not wrong with just being single. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You ain't got no women, but you
(43:22):
you know you they you do different stuff like that,
you know, with some of your hobbits and ship you
do off camera and ship you know, you know, you know.
I've been a sauna.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
A son of dude for for a few years, and
I've been trying to get you in that I can't
breathe in that ship. What the son to do for
you something?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When people ask me that, I'm got so many benefits, man,
but for the most part, the one of the most
important things I tell people, it's great for y'allt Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, got so many different benefits.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Just google it when you yeah, and you can breathe
while you.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Say game, I can't.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I tried it, bro, I need I tried this ship.
I can't even stand there with that a second.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Black. You don't stop breathing because you're going I feel like, yeah,
you're just hot.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I can't breathe. I can't breathe.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I walk out, man, invite you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Man, I'm gonna show you how to breathe.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Because you got to have it. It kind of coincide
with what you got going on. Yeah, it coincide with
over tried out again, broy Yeah, yeah, ship.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But they need to turn this.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Ship down a litit this up. You probably need to
go in the infrared one first. It's a little different
ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't straight
coming from those colds. So I used to go to
this one when they when COVID hit, I used to
go to this one right here around the corner.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, I know you too much perspire. Yeah, yeah, And
that's probably a great one.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
For you to start at. Got your own room, your TV,
because relaxation of it is really what you're out to embrace.
And if you come in there already uncomfortable, you ready
to get out of there before you get a saying
to enjoy the love weighting there too, don't really lose weight,
but you know you're definitely gonna sweat the toxic don
(45:24):
come at you. Yeah, it's a lot of benefits though. Yeah,
we meditated when you're in there, a lot.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
A lot, a lot a lot. Like I'm in a
transition now.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I mean we were talking about all that jail stuff
and all that kind of stuff, but I'm in a
transition now too.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, like I said, it's just a lot of different ship.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
On my own when they click, when they click to you, like, man,
I don't want to do some different ship. Yuh what
when when when things weren't really you know when things
weren't when change, when things wasn't really changing from what
all my previous stuff I used to do, my results
(46:07):
was coming out to be the same. You know, like
when you be trying to still get money in the
street one foot in and you know, trying to play
it like that. You can, I mean, you can do it.
That ship.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's like some hypocrites. If you ready, if you're ready
to go to I'm ready to go to the next left.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I know you always used to be saying, you know,
at good time, show it that called me to the
front the center of this time.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
You playing, bro, you know, I get it though.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
It's just like it's just it's a crazy thing to
adapt because where we come from, we frowned that cameras.
We frowned that attention. Nigga, want a nigga, Let the
tension come to me. I'm back here, nigga, if you
want the attention and come back here and look at it, man,
and please don't bring a lot of them. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Yeah, come back here, look at
this ship. I ain't trying to be ah, but that's
the new currency there, Bro, attention is the new currents.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
And that's a way to do it. I like, I
like your route.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You heard what you just said speaking about Big Fast,
Like you know, even though you ain't read out, that
guy bitch is standing on the table with their draws out.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
You know what I mean, You're still reaching. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
You know, you ain't really had no extra viral moment y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You know what I'm saying. Nobody got to fighting because
they said the wrong thing. Whatever the viral moment, w
ain't reaching. You ain't chasing that, So still a way
to do it. Yeah, you know, you still got your
your respect the way you you're still gaining and growing
into your respect. On the other side, see how people
(47:50):
respect it, See how people come to you, See how
people talk. You know what I mean, different people that
were outside of how we grew up.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, I know everybody knows that. You know what I'm saying.
What about bank you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, yeah, now that I said, Nigga, gota re meet me,
bro I'm different, Nigga scared to be different. Bro. A
niggas scater of that ship because they Man, I'm gonna
keep saying this ship over and over again. Niggas is
trying to be validated by invalid people. Bro, Like anybody
that anybody that don't want to see you be different.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
They don't mean you no good.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So let me ask you something with with with with
the level of respect and what you earn outside of that.
Know you you don't even care about that ship, bro,
I don't want that. I'm saying you don't care about
I don't want that. They can have that because I
(48:45):
know what I'm gonna do. You call that line, then
you're gonna see the same understanding. I got that.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I got that, but I'm saying, do you I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Care about that?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That ain't me.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'm taking leave, buddy, But they need to go on
because that ship that don't bring that. But bullshit.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I ben listen, man, I I beg the different with you.
I get.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
That you are putting too much work, not just shoot,
I'm just talking about all good, good and putting too
much work to not care about it now, to be
foolishly caring.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
About it, that is ignorant.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I get what you're saying that you care about it.
I mean that mean that ship. I get what you're saying,
but let me to hear me out one time. Make
sure you get what I get what you're saying. You're saying,
bro acknowledge that's some hell of a ship too. Yeah,
that's what you're saying. Acknowledge that well well, and if
it and it have happened, it's done. That's a part
of your story. Y'all really put in this work. And
(49:39):
what you're saying is, nigga, you you wouldn't even be
able to beat this if you weren't that exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
All of them say that again, So I, mama, make
sure you wouldn't even be able to beat that this
what I'm doing that if you wasn't that okay, you're right,
because it wouldn't even look as good. It wouldn't be
even that believable all the way.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
You know what I'm saying. To a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, but that's cool because that's there. But what I'm saying,
I can't focus on it. I can't think about my boxship.
Don't I want to call a botsh.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I can't even think of that ship. Don't mean nothing
no more. Don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
But you do got to think about that house that
you bought with that box issues sit in front of,
and you don't want nobody to go over there and
vandalize it. See know what I'm saying that that black
respect still got to be there. Okay, for that gone
for sure, the box ship ain't there no more, but
Black still own this house. So just out of respect
for what I already put my work in respect that,
(50:30):
don't come over and just do that. No, no, no,
you're right, you're right when you put in that perspective,
you're right. But when I'm trying to say, just don't
don't follow up on just don't follow up with foolishness
behind who black was. But I'm just I'm just so
glitched up. If I dwell on the person that I
used to be what I do now, if I even
(50:51):
think about it, that triggers me. Bro, don't think about it.
Don't dwell or don't think about it, like niggas be
asking me when I when I be in interviews with shit,
niggas be asked me about old shit or mention and
shit from the past shit, and she cringed me, I
don't even want to hear that shit. Don't dwell or
don't think about it. You make sure you continue to
respect it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
No, No, I totally respect it.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Like I just know he ain't fall away. That's all
I'm saying, John, the nigga is right here. I'm trying
to remain over here.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Bro, that'd be foolish. If the nigga is right here.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
How many niggas you know it's following up? If he
follow up? Okay, the nigga's right here, go ahead, Okay,
the nigga's right here, right yeah, which is the old
black Yeah, but you on a new journey.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Now, if you fall up follow up with that nigga
being right here and just dive over into that bullshit,
that'll be the dumbest stuff in the world for you
to do.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
How many nigga we know dumb?
Speaker 2 (51:49):
We're talking about black now, everybody everybody made slippers.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I don't know how I'm a wake up. That's why
I pray every day. I'm not dumb at all, but
I make dumb decisions before.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Stop doing that. I'm trying. That's what I'm saying. That's
what I'm trying to make sure you raised.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But I'm not saying that he needs gone, not saying
that directly. You know what I'm talking about me too.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, like serious bit and like you know, I didn't
even need to gone shout the giant need to gone. Man,
look now, a little boo need to gone.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
He's been gone.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
He ain't gone. Yeah, he's been.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
He ain't gone. He's been going. He went into Charlotage giant.
That's how Sharlee John was created.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
She bank went in the black I mean black one
in the bank. But at the end of the day,
I don't I don't want that same ship with black Head.
That's why you want the same sit with Nah. So well,
it's certain No, I take that back. It's certain things
that I can't help to have, and I don't want
to get rid of that respect. I got to I
got to continue to have that, Okay, I got to
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have that, a sense of a sense of sincerity. Hold
up somebody downstairs, hello, one time? Who that is?
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Okay? Cause the right quick? Sure, bro? What was that
you asked me? You said, we were trying to figure
out it's that old spirit in us?
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, left, and what should we do to keep him going?
Basically something like that. And now you asked me the
question you said, you said, do that old do that
old spirit of a little Boo? I mean, do the
new spirit of a giant because I'm I'm I'm trying
to excel past giant right now.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Yeah, so definitely you know that little Boo ship, you.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Know what I'm saying. But at the same at the
same time, like I would tell you, it's still some
of that what little boot earned that created. I agree,
I agree. Still yeah give give him yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Because it's like
(53:52):
we're sending the percent. I ain't even gonna lie, bro,
it's really seventy percent of black still with me. Thirty
percent is just me create a room for not having
a short temple and reaction. That's all I had to fix.
My short temper reaction, patience, you know what I'm saying,
And a different perspective. Knowing that everybody, before I get
(54:15):
upset with John about his perspective, just know me and
him are different.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
He got out of here entitled to that, and I'm
entired of that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's all I had to fix. Once I fixed that,
it was cool. That's why name of ship perspectives with
bank because that ship healed me knowing that, But everybody
gonna think like you Pete, everybody ain't gonna be you bank,
So respect him for perspective, it's not disrespectful, right you
fee what I'm saying, that's that and that and that's
I guess that could be considered the key factor. You
(54:46):
know what I'm saying, Like if you if you are
trying to, like I said, propel to that next level
who you are coming from who you was, right, I
think h not allowing yourself to be around with a
disrespect come out at you know what I'm saying, that's
the best way to Yes, sir, that don't mean I'm
(55:07):
still running from what I have built from who I get.
What you're saying, you put it like cold nigga, you
put you're basically saying now when you said I got
a sleut black for never got them folded, putting that
brh you that nigga and you man funk all that
I got a slew black for that.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's some certain things.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
It's some certain thing that bank couldn't even be without
Black coming around for ever.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Your authenticity yr uh yeah, yeah, your.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yo, charisma da it's just I can't off. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah vice versa. Brother. That's why I was trying to
team when we telling them from the day is just
certain ship. Certain niggas ain't gonna do. So there's not
a shortageant in the world besides the exactly. That's what
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niggas gotta know, bro, That's what I feel like. Niggas
fuck up trying to adapt to what they think will pop.
What Wi pop is you? That's the truth, bro, Like
niggas don't give fuck. How fucked We just talked about
Trump that niggas fucked up, but he the president, he's
been the president and he's running again on pro whatever
(56:22):
the fuck you on a nigga out on buns, man, Man,
I'm just telling you, y'all, be a cold nigga, John
still be running number one.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
You gotta be a cold nigga even want to run
supposed to be an.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Accept everything that they knock you down, saying that you
can't do because of this and because of that, and
be like you know what, y'all right, Yeah, but he different,
he different. It's a lot of niggas out there different
like that. But that's a lot of niggas different. But
scared to be different. You know what I'm saying, Like, bru,
I know that I command, I know that I'm the
(57:00):
everybody look to me. I know that I'm this, But
a lot of niggas don't want to step in that
light because they don't want that responsibility. Yeah, but you
know sometimes that come with timing, not for sure, but
not me. I don't believe in that. I don't believe
in time. I believe time is now cause we run.
Everybody alall be like, bag, why you move so fast
while you're so I'm patient?
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You you you you just you fucking ancient nigga? You genuine?
You too anxious? No, Bro, I just I don't know.
I always moved like I was running out of time.
What it is that? Is that anxiety? It's my when
you always move like you out of sign like come on,
come on, man, let's go.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Let like I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Always jittery, like, ain't this gotta be anxiety? But I
play it to my advantage, even with even with things
I gotta do, like and I'm never late. I'm always
I'm late on purpose if I'm late. Other than that,
I'm saying, thirty men, I got thirty mens, to wait
on these folks.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
I'm never late. I'm never you know what I'm saying,
only on late if I just.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Don't want to go, Like, so are you?
Speaker 2 (57:58):
So you're not patient? No, I'm praying for that, but
I'm patience. I ain't patient with like move how I move,
But I'm patient with people and things I care about.
You know what I'm saying. I'm patient with the money,
like that shit gonna come, But I ain't patient with
my time. If that makes sense, like being placed and
(58:18):
prompt then like knowing like I'm playing the head like
I ain't feeling let traffic catch me if I'm playing.
If I'm finling the interview shot at John today it's
seven o'clock. I don't play golf the earliest shit right,
just in case I get back. I got a chance
to cut my hair, do what I gotta do. I'm chilling.
I can chill, smoke blood, fuck chantelle if I want to,
then come over and do my ship. You get what
(58:40):
I'm saying. I got my time.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
So you pretty much, so you are patient?
Speaker 2 (58:44):
You ain't You ain't because impatient can be almost like saying,
you know what I mean you'll be you'll go to tripping.
But what's that?
Speaker 3 (58:52):
No, Like I just can't generate, Like I'm just generous
a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Well, I mean you say something I guess Yeah, yeah, underssard.
I mean that's why I ask you the different word,
like you may you may do have anxiety. I do,
but you may not be impatient. That's crazy, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but I be praying for me.
I need to pray for my anxiety and not in
because it's just like you need to find out what
(59:18):
you need to do. A self donal I did.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
I got everything that mental illness is. I got everything.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
I got abandonment issues mm hmm, a hel passed trauma,
I have anxiety, got there? What else? What else?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
This ship is?
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I'm bipolar PTSD. Niggas like us got everything. Niggas just
don't want to see it because they feel appealed to
be weak. I don't know, vulnerable, vulnerable. I'm everything. I
looked up everything in the book of like mental earnings, Like, damn,
I got that and me Damn I be doing that
(59:54):
self doubt everything, brou Niggas got everything on the list.
If you be honest with yourself. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You know what, man, this is a mental health is
at an all time rate for real. A lot of
the ship that you were just saying that niggas really
have they just ignored it and it just continued and continued,
and a lot of nigga when the chain came behind
and she did not even knowing that exactly nigga ain't
(01:00:25):
mental healthy. Well he ain't gonna walk right out there
and walk right in front of car, now, you know
what I'm saying. He ain't that kind of mental health.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
So you how we grew up. If you ate that
kind of mental health, you ain up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, it's a good joy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Jumping around you ain't mental health. Yeah you're good. But
this boy throwed out like yeah, the boy hell got
he can't sit down, You can't listen, he can't he
can't comprehend.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I mean, spas out on the dime.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Them facts. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That ship looked different, bro, men, hell looked differ. Even
even even even a woman would have broken heart. She's
fucking she dealing with mental issues. Yeah, I mean, life
sometimes takes you through it. Yeah, takes you through it
like serious, like you know, you know, I got a
nonprofit that I'm lunching.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
We ain't really got to number of things that I
got going on because we've been just talking about other
little different stuff. But I got a non profit that
I'm lunching that it's helping. It's helping people like me.
When I came home, I really didn't have nobody to
sit me down and guide me and say, look, this
is what you need to do first, this is what
(01:01:38):
you need to do sopping, this is what you need
to hear, this is what you need to do overall
to get yourself together. I really didn't have that. So
on my program, it's targeting you know, people that have
done X amount of years. You gotta be a ten
year and better because the level of what the level,
(01:02:00):
what the system really do to you. All that what
you're talking about, that's what they're fighting against. Yes, then
they come right back to the street because I was
at first I would love that. Yeah, I can't really
get it, can't really figure nothing out. I ain't really
got nobody, you know what I'm saying to to help
you figure it out, and you fight against all that
(01:02:21):
what youre just talking now, hey man. And that's how
that's how they end up repeating, going back. You know
what I'm saying, that's when that level hopeless hopelessness sit in.
Yeah yeah, Mama had to do I speak on this
our time. He this is my boy. He did twenty
(01:02:44):
two years. Right, yeah, So he came home, he came home,
He came home and right, you know, spend a little
time out. He was doing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
He was taking little kids, doing a different stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So you know, I used to have once I had
the little club I had, right, I used to hire
them because when nobody else hired, So I just had
niggas down there who ain't got no experience and none
of this ship. And I just teach me as ago
make up a job.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Used to slash you managed, slash character.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
You parked, not class, cook, make a drink.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
That yet a nigga some.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Kind of action. Now you're my man. You're watching everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, matter fact, I'm going to mind and you turning
to me.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You know what I'm saying. It looked like my already.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Working the bell that giant right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Got a nigga that never So my man came home
and things kind of on and down. It was. It was,
it was yeah, you know, with the business and all
that kind of stuff. So I couldn't really do nothing
for him. So he uh, he a wild boy to
a little bit. But he had older he understands, you
(01:04:00):
know what I'm saying, got older kids and stuff, so
his perspective had changed, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get straight to it. It takes too many emotions
to give. It takes zero emotion not to welcome to
the perspective back today, I got my Knigga in the
building with me. The shout John, oh g shout at John?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
What's up? Upon? How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Super woman, super wom blessed. I always asked people first
question is like where you're mentally at right now?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Relax?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Relax, relax.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I ain't never heard nobody say that. Relax What that means?
Found on that?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What that means not not you know, not trying to
move too fast, not trying to move too slow at
a pace? Yeah, taking some different stuff out, you know
what I mean? Well, wow, I'm figuring it out. Not speed. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. That makes sense to make
an honer sense. So people that might not know you,
(01:00):
who is shout of giant? Where you're from? What you
standing on? Who are you?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean shout a giant.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean I can't even really I can't put it
in a nutshell, but I think speaker who I am?
I'm really just a native from Atlanta, right, who kind
of been there for a minute. I think I'm I
think I'm four decades in the game. Yeah, yeah, maybe five.
I don't know, got made, you know, But serious now, man,
(01:36):
I'm saying I ain't you know a lot of people
be trying to put a whole bunch of rep on
their name and all that. I mean, I'm giant, that
pretty cool brother that growed up around the streets on
the projects, you know, recreational football always all the way
up to the game. So I pretty much the brush
(01:56):
shoulders everybody. And to be honest with you, I think
I know too minimal.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Me too. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to
downside that, y'all. You when you ask to what y'all job?
I think that might be the next year. Just know
too many motherfucker you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, because you know, knowing too many motherfuckers that end
up putting a lot of expectations on you.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean, I growed up dude in the first grade.
He feels like I on when we all the nine
you know what I'm saying, Ship like that?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How you so coming coming?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Up. It was what single single parent household to my
my house, old grandmama.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
How you raised where you raised that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We were pretty much single parent you know, pretty much
the norm. You know probably how the project was, you know, yeah,
pretty much the single parents. But you know how how
now growing up with certain type of strong women, you know,
build a village. Yeah yeah, so Grandmama stayed with us.
We won't even like to have a dog. We had
(03:01):
a picture, you know what I'm saying, like that and
then come to brothers, he'll come to sisters, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So pretty much single time dad wasn't around.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, he had all the agyendals you know, yeah,
the streets grabbing them early. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We had different we we kind of had the same
We kind of had the same fight in a way,
but his was he was mostly fight.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Like a drug edition in the streets. Pretty much. That
grabbed me.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know, it's still end up being what we had
in come was an absence, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What what age was when you got introduced like to
the streets like then on my side, now, oh, ship
right out of talent shows and ship I think we
were doing talent shows. We were.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think round.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Eleven, you know, twelve somethe Yeah, house having a little
different stuff going on with my mate really having enough
end make an end to make ends meet. So I
mean it's like you said, I got to be outside
and I'm the oldest.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So it's almost like.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You you see these people need you know what I'm saying,
independent enough, you know you will take on that challenge
when you came out there, what you came out of
off poor doing like before with the like major huss
when you came up with your first pity hustle, will
my first petty huse. We had something in Husks because
you know, I'm kind of I'm I'm I'm from the
(04:39):
zone three areas.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, we had so many different from.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Till tapping and doing our That's that's almost you know,
like you know, you're going downtown and you fake like
you're arguing with each other, and then when the when
the tendant who's supposed to be watching the car come
out there and be trying to break out up, you
done went over there and when in the cash draws.
You know what I'm saying, stuff like that. And you
(05:07):
back back before the criminal styles style of hustling came about,
we used to do stuff like go to the grocery store,
common stuff. We'll go down there. We'll go down there.
And we figured out the way to rig up down
at the at the gold what it was, the gold Man,
(05:30):
the gold Man, And.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, we figured a way to rig up the game.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So if you got money, we'll give you a bunch
of credits to give a half or you know something.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think with the clothes hanging some some of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Them now, man, you know, and then you know, I
growed over some of the greatest.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So they game never stopped. They created created soon as the.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Soon as soon as whoever the law, soon, whoever was
on the other side of the law come up with
a way to stop this, they created something else.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Already ready it's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Hey, do you do you remember times when niggas thought
like come from other big cities to the sound like
this ship was.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Just candy sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, man, I remember back and I remember back in
the day. Man, it wasn't even really the energy wasn't
even giving out like that. And we wasn't even really
receiving it. Like I remember, it was really like all
little greed bring people in. I remember back in the
day when run them, see them used to come right,
and we ain't really have the money to go into
the concert, so we'll just go down and be standing around.
(06:39):
But shew York in the building, fat shoe string cano.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And a kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Beata suits the big roads. Then before we even got
a chair to come off the porch with it having
the same type of no problem when nobody starting wh nobody,
you know what I'm saying, I scrilled a mean mugging
and nothing for we really out there really watch them
break dance, you know what I'm saying. So I can't
(07:09):
remember until like the drugs hit, it started looking like
they was, you know, invading with some kind of you know,
the extra taking over type ship. You know.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Once once upon time.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We was kind of scarce on them having artillery and
stuff like that, you know, if you come from somewhere
like how they want to not to speak coming so much.
But when like when the boys came from down down South,
we weren't really ready. So when they came, you know,
it's kind of like it wasn't no easy takeover, but
they kind of had us.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It was a little more power and they had the
money and the dope. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That. So it was kind of one of the situation
where you know, that was I remember back and they
were when that was kind of one of the first takeovers.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know what I'm saying, try or temp takeovers that
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, y'all too tough for up here, man, y'all, y'all,
y'all said at all, y'all don't relay down. I'm just
telling than Yeah, y'all, don't relate down. Y'all like y'all
more so, y'all like to be players first. Yeah, for sure,
she ain't gonna be nobody whole never.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You know, I read life.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I raised my kids like that a little bit. You know,
like they not extra bad, they're not extra managed. Yeah,
but they'll do some little different stuff, you know what
I mean. In the same time, you know, they ain't
gonna be your soft, your cushion, You're sureman, whatever you
want to call it, they ain't.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Gonna be that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but
you think the.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
The the biggest difference is from like when he was
hustling in the nineteen eighties and nineties to now.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What's the biggest difference, I'm I think just.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The game has switched up so much, man to to
to to put it to kind of put it in
a nutshell. Unruliness. They people that ain't nobody want to
don't nobody want to follow no rules. You see what
I'm saying, cold just is out the door. You know,
it's just certain things you can't you used to couldn't do.
Every regard is about who you belong to. Say you
(09:26):
can't do that, right, you know, he gonna let you
know you can't do.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That round him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now it's a little different. Well, they just don't really
have no rules, you know what I mean. They don't
want to follow them. They have them because they still
they never changed, you know what I'm saying. You know,
you don't supposed to be shooting over here with this
old lady state where you'ren't supposed to be stilling theirself.
But you know the way they look at the way
they move now, it's like, yeah, you know the respect it, Yeah,
(09:54):
that's what's what you think. The disconnect there between the
old niggas and the young nim The old nigga got
so in fact, it's scared on yep, exactly what it
is exactly. I keep saying that everything I be tripping,
I say that it just scared me your knee. And
see that's the whole thing. Like for me, it ain't
(10:17):
enough for me. See if if if a lot of
mes can come together, yeah, I mean we can show
them me ain't scared. But you know, I ain't gonna
be running up off Meek nom by my mother. But
what I'm saying, but it's just like then fuck with me,
young nigga. They don't care, So you kind of do
gotta be scared of the nigga like gone, because I'm
(10:38):
scared what you gonna make me do. But I ain't
scared what you're gonna do to me. I'm scared what
you're gonna make me do. Yeah, but they all still
gonna ball down the power because you know what I mean,
like we gotta take the power back. Like like I mean,
we scared because they done took the power. I'm just
telling you, Like if you think about.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It, like.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
When we were growing up, we all medic new It
don't matter, you know how, because I mean we we
was a little feisty, yeah, but it really didn't matter.
It didn't really matter how feisty that you was when
you got eight nine more other o gez around you
that ain't really going for that. You feel what I'm saying.
But the thing about it, well, I'm gonna tell you
what I think too. Though it's so many niggas that's
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getting older and waking up. It's like them nigga ain't
in the street back in our day. Them nigga was
still in the street getting money because it was sweet.
The streets so fucked up that the old niggas ain't
in the streets no more. Yeah, but I'm just talking
a little past your streets. I'm talking about just period
as a race of people now, like it's like it
done got so bad to well disrespect just on another level, no,
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no facts, you see what I'm saying. So it's almost
like we whether you cleaned up your act or whether
you still move around in the street, it's got to
be still something that you know, kind of established.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Like, man, I don't really I ain't really.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Here to try to tell you what to do, but
you can't do that right here or whatever it is
to make sure something, you know, be back, re establish
what a respect gotta be man, I'm saying, I'm saying
right right the day I got some I got a friend.
They they family live in like one of what do
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you call the senior home, And sometime I go by
there and see a mom, see a couple of uh
other older mothers that there the right when I get
over there one day, the folks tell me something like
they don't start breaking the the people called the cold
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ship fatic that shipatic, you're breaking the need? Got a car,
you know what I'm saying, breaking the need? Folks call
and see for real, real that should be the type
of ship what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like this didn't even gottenhing to do with this, hasn't
even gotten hing to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Turn this on sixty.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
She ain't even got nothing to do with whether or
not this street about nothing. When you think it went
left like that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Uh, it wasn't left when I think it really was
real left when I when when a nigga, I think
it really was left when a nigga who's a natural
bond hustler turned to a jacket. Yeah, when nigga started
getting extra high all the extra hog ship ye double cupping, yep,
popping the pill smoking that that real ship back to back.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You're just out your mind, just high. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Relate to nothing, what real real not saying? Really yeah
yeah looking at me stupid and I just told you
something that was some good ship on jewels. You know,
back in the day, we used to think, I guess
you can get somebody out of the street that ain't
got nothing if you got some whills you want to
hear because it's almost almost like what we were saying
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back in the day, like putting nothing down on some
different stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You know what I'm saying that we really need help
to continue to grow. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Do you remember like the highest point in your life
and the lowest point, Like I know when I was
at my highest end, at my lowers, I was at
my highest. To be honest with you, some of these questions,
I don't want to rush through them because take your time. No,
I want to stay on point because I know people
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gonna be watching it. I don't want a nigga be
thinking I'm just up in flex sh.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Sh ship.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Really, you know what I'm saying because this should go
past just sitting right with bank.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I want a nigga to understand what so my highest
my highest?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think my highest when we were growing up man
with no words. Yeah, we know we can come ourselve
out without getting shot. You know your mama gonna look
out for us the way my mama gonna look out
for you. I think will niggas be thinking about when
you ask something, When you ask that question, some people
think niggas think about money, Yeah, think about that will
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be high? Yeah, No, because you think about where you
was the happiest at That's yeah, that's right, that's your highest.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When I used to really play throw up tackle exactly,
and then it don't matter about because you my brother,
my blood brother, you got the fighting with my best
friend rain in it.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I ain't got nothing to do breaking it up and
then you hit you.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, well figure that out. Throw the ball back
on the ball to you. Not that that that could
be considered as my highest. When we used to play
with ca motherfucking lightning bulls. Yeah, play hide and go
seek and how and go get no word, you know
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what I'm saying, No word like that? Breaking into swimming
pool at night, you know what I mean, just to
swim nigga, nigga come from nigga, come from the swimming pool.
Excuse me, excuse me, the nigga turn. But you come
from the swimming pool and fall asleep outside of the
fucking paul kitching sunstroke and like that, hate to go
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in the house, man, man, somebody what you outside? Nigga
crying walking in the house. And then and then if
if you had to be made she you really want
to bring you want to bring.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Your crew with you? Well, can't they spending ny But.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Like it's something, it's something right in now I could
consider that's my highest that my lords. I mean, you know,
I say this so much and I'm I'm doro telling
this story because I'm it's old. But and then know
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it's always some new people that don't want to you
from speaking about Yeah, you know, because this is real,
but it's it's it's all with storytelling. Yeah, And every
time I talk about it, I had to go into
telling the story, which is when I call a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I had a like center, which I think everybody fucking
know now because.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Just being said repeatedly, But yeah, I think that was
my he and the judge hit the guy, hit the
the growl uh and say you got life. I think
that's one of the worst feelings that anybody could feel.
And I think that that is one of my worst
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feeling considering losing family members or something like that. But yeah,
but I think that personally for me, that was it was.
It was different what type of mindset you had to have,
like like going back in the back, walking in the back,
like right then, where your mindset it's it's it. And
I tell people that say a lot man tell people
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the truth, like you know, when we're talking about what
we swapping jail stories and stuff like that or whatever.
You know, you can be havel went to jail, but
until you have had that particular burden that you had
to carry, you don't really feel me. You know what
I'm saying. I know you, not you person, say anybody,
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but you don't really feel me. When I'm talking about
that's that's a different.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, when you're saying you ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Go home, yeah, I mean don't know. Yeah, yeah, So
it's almost like it will. It's it's to what type
of mindset you have. It you have to have you
ain't really really it begins to it begins to lead it,
it begins to grow a little past mental when you
start digging spiritually. Now, yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah,
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because that's the only.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Thing gonna hold hold you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now that you're gonna have to some kind of way
have spiritual and your mental running parallel, which your spiritual
and take on have to get a little greater than
anything else. I mean, you out there, you know you
out there. Man, Just just think about it now, the folks,
just think think about the folk. Drop you out there
in the middle of the see on the medle of
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the ocean. Ain't no boat around, Ain't nobody to talk to,
Ain't nobody who's you gonna be? Start calling? Then I
can't call him. I can't swim, So its over with me.
I'm saying, you're gonna go spiritual whatever, be grateful, you
help me, you go this. Yeah, I'll give what you're saying.
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That's crazy how you put that. You're saying, basically like,
sh ain't ain't nobody I can't even talk to about
this man, when your parents even tell you, ain't nothing
I can do. Baby, you're turning and told you.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Ain't the not gonna do so how you how you
get it overturned? You know how you come home?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Man? I just stayed fighting, you know what I'm saying,
Just stayed fighting, you know, just pretty much you know,
kept on, you know, taking my time, trying to dig
up things that could properly help, you know what I'm saying,
change the perspective of how the jurors and everybody else
looked at the situation.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It's kept fighting. Took a few it took a little,
it took a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But you know, like I would be down the road
really and I would be having more fun than you,
and you ain't got much too it. You'll be thinking,
I ain't not necessarily having fun, but I just didn't
let it just drag me. So you'll be thinking, like,
you know, ain't no way possible that I got some
kind of sentence that I got out here. But at
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the same time, I would be in the acting with
the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying, just to just
to keep coping, playing sports, doing different stuff, you know,
getting money, whatever it took, stay afloat mentally, like you said,
you know what I mean, how you how this shit shift,
you like when you came home with your mindset, well,
when you got.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Home, I said, when I came home, I just really
I just kind of like I came out me personally.
I came out.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I came out the gate running because I just felt
like I was. I really never accept that I was
gonna be there, because I already know who I pray
to and how hard I pray when I be praying,
So I know, ain't nothing bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So I already knew at some point I was gonna
come home.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So once I kind of started getting over you know,
a few years in there, and started being able to,
you know, maneuver, highlight the maneuver, my mind had already
kind of adjust to being back out here with y'all.
So I wasn't even never stuck. So my mind already
on some money, pick up the pieces, pick up the pace,
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let's get back to it, you know. So me, I
come out the gate, you know, really running, So all
the things that I really was thinking about that I wanted,
you know, all the things I feel like I missed
out on, I wouldn't have got it, you see what
I'm saying. So my mind was pretty much you know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It pretty had never died.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It hadn't really you know, it got sucked into how
the system can suck it, It suck you in sometimes,
so yeah, I pretty much came. I would kind of
look at my mom. My mom used to always be
saying stuff like, but you don't change. And let me
tell you something, sometimes you can be the change with
you and you haven't been paid attention to. So some ways,
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some ways I had got a little more uh tighter,
you know, selfish, you know, indirectly selfish, not knowing you
know what I'm saying. The love wasn't was emotionless. You
feel like people left you for dead.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
At first.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know, I grew up in them. When I got
out there, it was probably I was twenty somethings, So
you know when I at first, you know when you
when you think about it, you know, you want to
blame a whole whole bunch of shit on a whole
bunch of people, you know what I'm saying. As you
grow developed different ways of how you look at things,
how you think about things.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, I started looking at it totally different.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And even though I don't feel I didn't feel like
nobody old mean nothing I still have to feel grudge,
you know what I'm saying, Like, Nigga, I tell you,
niggased to take care of you before you left and
do this and do that, and you ain't even neverna
rope me up, stop by mam crib and be like,
how you doing? You know what I'm saying. So it's
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a nigga like that that felt my wrath when I
got out. Don't ship you know what I'm saying. Don't
don't do that, you know, And nigga be like John,
I got tight as here. Did you break into promises?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You know how?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
When you when you're in a fucker situation, they be
praying to God seeing all types of shit.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Did you breaking the promise? You made it up when
you got back up?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Man, we all do that. Yeah, yeah, man, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Man. Let me tell you something. My situation was so crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I got my case overturned. I got my case overturned
in motion for new trial. I'm in the hole at
the time and got into it somebody. I'm in the
hole at the time when they brought me to the whole,
I'm in that motherfucker singing Tupac that in my mind
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that that that that almost almost like you invincible type.
So I started, I start, you know, I started really
bragging on my blessing instead of receiving them the right way. Man,
I promise you it never happened. It never happened. It's
the first time we ever seen this happen. I had
a thing what you call a rebutter hearing. So while
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the officer came and got me out, he was like, look,
you gotta hear you gotta hear it anymore. I was like,
ain't no way I got to hear. And I just
got my case overturned. I ain't even got no time.
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You be like, you know you do? I like it
muther be some kind of default in the system. So
I go back over there. When I get over the
atturney like, uh, I see my turning, So that ship
must be seer.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I said, what's up? So what's you like? Shit?
We just got a little We just got a little
butter here. I said, what is that?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You know at the time, I ain't telling them what
was going on, And yeah, said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We should be straight. He said, I don't think that
the same judge that overturned your case will come back
and reverse it back in their favor. I still membim
exact word. So I was like cool, and we went
back to court. Man, See, yeah, this is the thing
that I was trying to tell you. My burden was
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get a licence. They snatched it away from then they
get that motherfucker back.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
After how long ship? In a few months? So I said,
how long you have been in there? I probably been
in there like two years? Okay, probably probably.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I probably went to try around about the third year,
close to the third year. Yeah, But once I got
the time, we went right back. It's it's three. It's
three stages that you can go through. It's I mean,
I think it's four. It's been a long time, black,
but I think it's three.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think it's.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Motion for a new trial. You go to the Pillars
court and then you can go to like a federal stage,
and once you once you it's all those remedies you did,
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I never rushed.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was just taking my time. I was like, old, look,
I ain't gonna just because I was seeing people who
jumping out there, they be so ready to get out right.
It's a jump out the fire as files and once
you file it, you can't file it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You can't file back in that in that area number E.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Once it denied, it denned, so you got to go
to the next stage. And then I took my time
with that a little bit. But on my from the
beginning of the motion for a new trial, I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Got a granted.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That was what I heard of too. You know, the
same courtroom that gave me any time turned around and
granted me a motion for a new trial. And that's
when I got a little cocky. I was feeling myself
talking in my head, I'm coming home. Yeah, everybody, y'all
through everybody act like they did this, you know, talking tough,
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all the extra shit, telling a girl she did wrong.
You know, just how just bring up all kinds of
ship that wasn't necessary. It was necessary, but you know,
don't get too cocky too fast. By instantly, man, God
took it right back from me. So now I got
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to go down the road in a fight. And that's
how that transition.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
How long you had stayed in there where you actually
came on my did ten year?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah? Yeah, but they overturned on technicality, you went back
to trail. They overturned on Ah, they overturned new discovery
over day.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, you ain't been an seen.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, now you see that.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm sitting on the show with you talking. That's all
I'm ready to right now. I hain't been beat, no
push over playing like that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
No, sir, no, sow what you think the tempture in
the streets he is right now? You know it kind
of fucked up like twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two.
What you think the tempt is right now? Not even
just Atlanta streets?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Period?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just like I said, I just think that.
I just think everybody ain't really they ain't following no rules.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
The police really can't even tell nobody what to do
no more.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I mean it's just like I mean, not even the
police authorgists who have got the power with authority can't
even tell them. So this thing ain't nobody listening to ship.
Nobody got to say. And they moving how they moving?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And for the young crew, they are they done lost hope,
the hope factor just gone, you know what I mean,
not back in the day. But we just have a
little hope. Yeah yeah, yeah, you saying like them niggas
just feel like but it's it. Yeah, it's all or nothing. Yeah,
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I don't been in that space too though. I felt
like that, but I ain't. I ain't feel like that.
Dam I want to crash because of that though, Well,
you weren't really you want you know, when I cut
into you, you wasn't really what we cut into each
You wasn't really crash material. You was you was old.
It was over on the other end. You more like,
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no play off first, I ain't ain't. Yeah, for trying
to get his mind. Yeah, I don't really want a
lot of extra going on, you know, but you have
some folks around you, do you You believe in a strategy,
You believe in this that whole duct Taste ship, Like
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you don't remember that time we was on poors and men.
You're sitting over there trying to act like that we
ain't got nothing to do with what day over there?
This this nigga keeps putting the camera on men. Yeah,
we're trying to hide the niggas ain't even a duct taste.
But I get all the backlash from the niggas. Who
y'all beefing with? What the niggas went to talking about that?
(30:59):
Look at him? They put the camera right back on me.
I think I had grey handed this nigga need to
be at home with his grand shot. Ship, tell y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You know we were black.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We cut you know.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I don't even know why to let you trick me.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
To my child John stay on the where up in
the films some hall. I was like, Ship, I'm gonna
sit down, sitting down here looking like I need to
be at home with grand I ain't got no branchure
in time.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You got caught in the crumb man, I'm trying to
tell and it went by.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yuah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
There was the day too, ain't gonna lie. I had
some moments, bro, you know what I'm saying. Everything do
you feel like everything that happens supposed to happen? Well,
not everything that happened, it's supposed to happen, because I
do believe in too. I do believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Involuntary suffering.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Involuntary suffering, that's hard, it's hard. Ain't never heard that
be from him, And that's what of that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And that's one of my biggest challenges that I myself.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know, I don't never want to have my situation,
so it's easy to do it that it's Roger, Yeah,
stud shit need to be mean. You know what I'm saying.
I meant to do this. Nah, I've said, do you
believe in like signs and shit astrology? I mean, I
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definitely believe in science, because I mean, that's the closest
thing to what's real. But I'm not that deep into
it to say how much I believe in it.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I listened to certain breakdowns and it makes sense, you know,
you you that's one of your things.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I fucked with the I don't. I don't. I ain't
gonna say like I don't know, like you know, the
stars and all that ship the line. I don't know
how that.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I just know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Gemini at like a Gemini, Scorpio at like a scorpio,
A Libra at like a libra all on my meat.
They all a you know what I'm saying, like each
they don't. They're not the same people. They don't have
the same character, but it's like the same traits when
they come down to emotions and different things of that
nature or MANNIORYTHM.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
They got a human connection. But they all are different.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Everybody different. Like when I said you're a Scorpio or
you a Gemini. You this like all geminis retarded. But
they all.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't think y'all retarded.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
There's two people, y'all, y'all about four five different.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But at the end of the day, all of them,
some of them can channel their energy and make it
something else instead.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Of like Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Him oh ship black, but.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Nah, I just know yeah, yeah, I know what I'm saying.
But them niggas don't.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They don't know how to really got damn die that
ship down a little bit, bro crazy. Now. I was
watching this man man, no, he he he's some special man.
They said that the lady had an ill piece of
the ear. They were telling him what to say or something.
Ain't no telling him. That's she Trump. I mean, buddy,
(34:33):
one't buddies you think Trump that bullshit? Trump that bullshit.
I don't think he's that bullshit. He definitely not that bullshit.
He just he can be that bullshit. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that you know some
stuff here that he's standing there, want to come the power.
(34:55):
I respect it because you need that. That's what he
was basically talking about. Next see everybody listening to something
that he wasn't saying. He's saying and I don't know
how true it is, but I'm just saying his argument,
just speaking of what he's saying is, bro, were not
respected right now and the day I'm making pay for
us to god damn pro protection. They had to pay.
Everybody had to pay all his points. We was bro
(35:18):
way y'all, y'all, y'all moving pipes and doing this ship
like getting punked. Basically he like poo wouldn't even be
doing all that. But I wonder how much of how
much of that Trump say some ship that don't really
be true, what zero confidence facts want to And he
(35:41):
was going out on the faith. He himya on, you
tell you one more time. I'm gonna be honest with you, man,
like you got some over there were coming if if
if if it was Trump, if if it was Trump
that I had to face, I would feel the same
way they feel because that motherfucker's crazy for real. You
know you want them once you remember forgot back in
(36:02):
the day man, we used to be going to the
fights back when we were young. Man man that man
was a gangster them man that was in the man
was affiliated in real mob like ship for something, you
know to a certain degree, you know what I'm saying,
So for real life to to to to excel to
that particular level of power. I take my hat out
(36:23):
to him because I seen his traveling, you know, just
with anybody, like when you when you go from now
to dare, from now to there, I mean, I gotta
respect it. Same thing like with you vice versus I'm
gonna give you a flyer before I leave. But definitely
the same thing, like when you see people you know
made a transition and emerged from in here, Like he
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just went from being on the fucking reality show playing
what's the name of the relation a prinice apprentice.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I'm saying he went.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
From death to speaking or possibly becoming the president of
the United States one day and really manifest that to happen.
I saluted. Yeah, I don't know if I follow up
on a lot of stuff because I don't really see
you saying what I'm saying, Like, I don't know, like
because they told me the Project twenty five ship and
(37:15):
I'm told against that. But Trump said he ain't got
anything to do with that. Tr Trump said a lot
of ship. He ain't got nothing to do and got
lots of ship. Doell he tell you he just said
that black. He just said some ship to the whole
room right outside. You're like to say that, you know
(37:35):
what I'm saying. I just see it like that.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
You know, I.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Ain't really played about it. He ain't worried about what
you hate? Man? Why you He basically saying, why you
repeating that ship? Then stood that ship?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know what I'm saying. He wanted to guy, that
ain't the first prison I ever heard calling the nigga
shitch a snitch. Goddamn Trump, that cold nigga bro man.
But he just out loud. I think all of them
the same way. He just out loud with it. I
mean I think something, I think I think a lot
of them republished can be really cruel, and you know,
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and like I said, heartless at some degree in something,
and sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You need it, you know that nigga.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Trump said, God mamn, we got a president who he
don't even know if he're alive.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He said a lot of little different, crazy shit.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now I sit there and watching him, I'm like, he
just don't give a fuck. He acting like he ain't
running for He acting like he ain't in no presidential
debate now because he knowing that he had too. Now
what Trump knows is he not going and he's not
trying to get no new people. He trying to rally
up all his people that feel like fuck, they don't
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fucking with Trump. So that's why he's standing on his
side of they like me for me, me being me.
If I try to do anything else, it ain't gonna work.
I ain't gonna have the same people follow me. He
ain't gonna have the same people that follow him because
they ain't following him for telling you in your face. Yeah,
I just said that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They follow him because he the type of tell you
in your faith. I ain't just say that.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I just said that. You know what I'm saying his
people is, it's but there's more people in the world
like that. They low you to him. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if I mean vote for that. I
probably vote for the local vote. Oh yeah, that's that's
what's so crazy right now about this particular presidential race.
(39:35):
I don't think that. I think that people is so
indecisive on who they want to vote for. They really
don't want to vote. But you know it's we got
a responsibility black because it was once upon time that
we didn't even have the right to do it. Mm yeah,
back to what I said. I said, I don't know
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if you heard, because you know you said we had responsibility.
We especially as a black race, we got a sponsibility
to vote because it was one's Like I said, at
one point time, they didn't even give up, but.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They said this ship really don't even count on the vote.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Who there was they told us about this show Electoria,
Like yeah, Stevie Badge just told us. He said, you
can't even that ship, don't even your votes don't even count.
Like a nigga win all the votes from the people,
but lose the Electoria College shit, you lose the thing
about it with me, I don't want to get that deep,
(40:34):
but I know I will watch some ship once upon
time and they was like they were killing niggas because
they won't the vote. So I'm just a different kind
of nigga. Since she was doing some shit like that,
I got the vote. You know what I'm saying, You
didn't have my vote like that. You vote for them
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I'm vote for I'm a man of or respecting power.
But at the same time, I'm a Democrat. Yard what
makes you a Democrat? Now? It got that soft ass
ship with me. You know what I'm saying, Love the
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people for the people. You know what I'm saying, you know,
not just the rich, you know what I'm saying. Or
so middle class on the class, on the dogs. You know,
just because I come from it, you know what I'm saying.
So it's been it's been part of my heart for
you know. So I mean I ain't the type that
I see eight of y'all jumping on somebody and because
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of all us together, I'm just gonna come jump in it. Yeah,
I'll be more so like black y'all trick. You know
what I'm saying. Might don't stop it, you might be
to get it some deserve. But what I'm saying, that's
just how my that's how my heart is.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
No for real me too. What's some ship that you.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That you look at no.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Person now you look back like damn I was stupid
head when I was doing that ship.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Uh, have multiple women at one time, you know, like
you know that that's one of the that's one of
my things. I look back and be like.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
That ship.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Really, you ain't just I was stupid. That ship stupid.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I mean, you know what's multiple? What do you mean multiple? Two?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Ship? What anything more than one?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Blas? I mean you kind of look, my man, that
shit a headache.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Man. You can't spend two. You can't spend Thanksgiving the
two places, much less three. You can't spend Christmas in
the morning. I mean, it's just a shit. Just become
a headache more than you know. When you was younger
had the energy for it because one nothing really locked
locked in, you know, but when you get a little
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older you start thinking about it. Yeah, it's a lot
of extra you know what I'm saying. You know, I mean,
and I'm not saying that you need to if you
ain't really selling your hard way, you really really do that. Yeah, nigga,
ain't not wrong with just being single. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You ain't got no women, but you
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you know you they you do different stuff like that,
you know, with some of your hobbits and ship you
do off camera and ship you know, you know, you know.
I've been a sauna.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
A son of dude for for a few years, and
I've been trying to get you in that I can't
breathe in that ship. What the son to do for
you something?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When people ask me that, I'm got so many benefits, man,
but for the most part, the one of the most
important things I tell people, it's great for y'allt Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, got so many different benefits.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Just google it when you yeah, and you can breathe
while you.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Say game, I can't.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I tried it, bro, I need I tried this ship.
I can't even stand there with that a second.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Black. You don't stop breathing because you're going I feel like, yeah,
you're just hot.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I can't breathe. I can't breathe.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I walk out, man, invite you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Man, I'm gonna show you how to breathe.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Because you got to have it. It kind of coincide
with what you got going on. Yeah, it coincide with
over tried out again, broy Yeah, yeah, ship.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But they need to turn this.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Ship down a litit this up. You probably need to
go in the infrared one first. It's a little different
ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't straight
coming from those colds. So I used to go to
this one when they when COVID hit, I used to
go to this one right here around the corner.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, I know you too much perspire. Yeah, yeah, And
that's probably a great one.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
For you to start at. Got your own room, your TV,
because relaxation of it is really what you're out to embrace.
And if you come in there already uncomfortable, you ready
to get out of there before you get a saying
to enjoy the love weighting there too, don't really lose weight,
but you know you're definitely gonna sweat the toxic don
(45:24):
come at you. Yeah, it's a lot of benefits though. Yeah,
we meditated when you're in there, a lot.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
A lot, a lot a lot. Like I'm in a
transition now.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I mean we were talking about all that jail stuff
and all that kind of stuff, but I'm in a
transition now too.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, like I said, it's just a lot of different ship.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
On my own when they click, when they click to you, like, man,
I don't want to do some different ship. Yuh what
when when when things weren't really you know when things
weren't when change, when things wasn't really changing from what
all my previous stuff I used to do, my results
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was coming out to be the same. You know, like
when you be trying to still get money in the
street one foot in and you know, trying to play
it like that. You can, I mean, you can do it.
That ship.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's like some hypocrites. If you ready, if you're ready
to go to I'm ready to go to the next left.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I know you always used to be saying, you know,
at good time, show it that called me to the
front the center of this time.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
You playing, bro, you know, I get it though.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
It's just like it's just it's a crazy thing to
adapt because where we come from, we frowned that cameras.
We frowned that attention. Nigga, want a nigga, Let the
tension come to me. I'm back here, nigga, if you
want the attention and come back here and look at it, man,
and please don't bring a lot of them. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Yeah, come back here, look at
this ship. I ain't trying to be ah, but that's
the new currency there, Bro, attention is the new currents.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
And that's a way to do it. I like, I
like your route.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You heard what you just said speaking about Big Fast,
Like you know, even though you ain't read out, that
guy bitch is standing on the table with their draws out.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
You know what I mean, You're still reaching. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
You know, you ain't really had no extra viral moment y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You know what I'm saying. Nobody got to fighting because
they said the wrong thing. Whatever the viral moment, w
ain't reaching. You ain't chasing that, So still a way
to do it. Yeah, you know, you still got your
your respect the way you you're still gaining and growing
into your respect. On the other side, see how people
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respect it, See how people come to you, See how
people talk. You know what I mean, different people that
were outside of how we grew up.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, I know everybody knows that. You know what I'm saying.
What about bank you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, yeah, now that I said, Nigga, gota re meet me,
bro I'm different, Nigga scared to be different. Bro. A
niggas scater of that ship because they Man, I'm gonna
keep saying this ship over and over again. Niggas is
trying to be validated by invalid people. Bro, Like anybody
that anybody that don't want to see you be different.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
They don't mean you no good.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So let me ask you something with with with with
the level of respect and what you earn outside of that.
Know you you don't even care about that ship, bro,
I don't want that. I'm saying you don't care about
I don't want that. They can have that because I
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know what I'm gonna do. You call that line, then
you're gonna see the same understanding. I got that.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I got that, but I'm saying, do you I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Care about that?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That ain't me.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'm taking leave, buddy, But they need to go on
because that ship that don't bring that. But bullshit.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I ben listen, man, I I beg the different with you.
I get.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
That you are putting too much work, not just shoot,
I'm just talking about all good, good and putting too
much work to not care about it now, to be
foolishly caring.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
About it, that is ignorant.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I get what you're saying that you care about it.
I mean that mean that ship. I get what you're saying,
but let me to hear me out one time. Make
sure you get what I get what you're saying. You're saying,
bro acknowledge that's some hell of a ship too. Yeah,
that's what you're saying. Acknowledge that well well, and if
it and it have happened, it's done. That's a part
of your story. Y'all really put in this work. And
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what you're saying is, nigga, you you wouldn't even be
able to beat this if you weren't that exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
All of them say that again, So I, mama, make
sure you wouldn't even be able to beat that this
what I'm doing that if you wasn't that okay, you're right,
because it wouldn't even look as good. It wouldn't be
even that believable all the way.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
You know what I'm saying. To a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, but that's cool because that's there. But what I'm saying,
I can't focus on it. I can't think about my boxship.
Don't I want to call a botsh.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I can't even think of that ship. Don't mean nothing
no more. Don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
But you do got to think about that house that
you bought with that box issues sit in front of,
and you don't want nobody to go over there and
vandalize it. See know what I'm saying that that black
respect still got to be there. Okay, for that gone
for sure, the box ship ain't there no more, but
Black still own this house. So just out of respect
for what I already put my work in respect that,
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don't come over and just do that. No, no, no,
you're right, you're right when you put in that perspective,
you're right. But when I'm trying to say, just don't
don't follow up on just don't follow up with foolishness
behind who black was. But I'm just I'm just so
glitched up. If I dwell on the person that I
used to be what I do now, if I even
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think about it, that triggers me. Bro, don't think about it.
Don't dwell or don't think about it, like niggas be
asking me when I when I be in interviews with shit,
niggas be asked me about old shit or mention and
shit from the past shit, and she cringed me, I
don't even want to hear that shit. Don't dwell or
don't think about it. You make sure you continue to
respect it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
No, No, I totally respect it.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Like I just know he ain't fall away. That's all
I'm saying, John, the nigga is right here. I'm trying
to remain over here.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Bro, that'd be foolish. If the nigga is right here.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
How many niggas you know it's following up? If he
follow up? Okay, the nigga's right here, go ahead, Okay,
the nigga's right here, right yeah, which is the old
black Yeah, but you on a new journey.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Now, if you fall up follow up with that nigga
being right here and just dive over into that bullshit,
that'll be the dumbest stuff in the world for you
to do.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
How many nigga we know dumb?
Speaker 2 (51:49):
We're talking about black now, everybody everybody made slippers.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I don't know how I'm a wake up. That's why
I pray every day. I'm not dumb at all, but
I make dumb decisions before.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Stop doing that. I'm trying. That's what I'm saying. That's
what I'm trying to make sure you raised.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But I'm not saying that he needs gone, not saying
that directly. You know what I'm talking about me too.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, like serious bit and like you know, I didn't
even need to gone shout the giant need to gone. Man,
look now, a little boo need to gone.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
He's been gone.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
He ain't gone. Yeah, he's been.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
He ain't gone. He's been going. He went into Charlotage giant.
That's how Sharlee John was created.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
She bank went in the black I mean black one
in the bank. But at the end of the day,
I don't I don't want that same ship with black Head.
That's why you want the same sit with Nah. So well,
it's certain No, I take that back. It's certain things
that I can't help to have, and I don't want
to get rid of that respect. I got to I
got to continue to have that, Okay, I got to
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have that, a sense of a sense of sincerity. Hold
up somebody downstairs, hello, one time? Who that is?
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Okay? Cause the right quick? Sure, bro? What was that
you asked me? You said, we were trying to figure
out it's that old spirit in us?
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, left, and what should we do to keep him going?
Basically something like that. And now you asked me the
question you said, you said, do that old do that
old spirit of a little Boo? I mean, do the
new spirit of a giant because I'm I'm I'm trying
to excel past giant right now.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Yeah, so definitely you know that little Boo ship, you.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Know what I'm saying. But at the same at the
same time, like I would tell you, it's still some
of that what little boot earned that created. I agree,
I agree. Still yeah give give him yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Because it's like
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we're sending the percent. I ain't even gonna lie, bro,
it's really seventy percent of black still with me. Thirty
percent is just me create a room for not having
a short temple and reaction. That's all I had to fix.
My short temper reaction, patience, you know what I'm saying,
And a different perspective. Knowing that everybody, before I get
(54:15):
upset with John about his perspective, just know me and
him are different.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
He got out of here entitled to that, and I'm
entired of that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's all I had to fix. Once I fixed that,
it was cool. That's why name of ship perspectives with
bank because that ship healed me knowing that, But everybody
gonna think like you Pete, everybody ain't gonna be you bank,
So respect him for perspective, it's not disrespectful, right you
fee what I'm saying, that's that and that and that's
I guess that could be considered the key factor. You
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know what I'm saying, Like if you if you are
trying to, like I said, propel to that next level
who you are coming from who you was, right, I
think h not allowing yourself to be around with a
disrespect come out at you know what I'm saying, that's
the best way to Yes, sir, that don't mean I'm
(55:07):
still running from what I have built from who I get.
What you're saying, you put it like cold nigga, you
put you're basically saying now when you said I got
a sleut black for never got them folded, putting that
brh you that nigga and you man funk all that
I got a slew black for that.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's some certain things.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
It's some certain thing that bank couldn't even be without
Black coming around for ever.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Your authenticity yr uh yeah, yeah, your.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yo, charisma da it's just I can't off. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah vice versa. Brother. That's why I was trying to
team when we telling them from the day is just
certain ship. Certain niggas ain't gonna do. So there's not
a shortageant in the world besides the exactly. That's what
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niggas gotta know, bro, That's what I feel like. Niggas
fuck up trying to adapt to what they think will pop.
What Wi pop is you? That's the truth, bro, Like
niggas don't give fuck. How fucked We just talked about
Trump that niggas fucked up, but he the president, he's
been the president and he's running again on pro whatever
(56:22):
the fuck you on a nigga out on buns, man, Man,
I'm just telling you, y'all, be a cold nigga, John
still be running number one.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
You gotta be a cold nigga even want to run
supposed to be an.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Accept everything that they knock you down, saying that you
can't do because of this and because of that, and
be like you know what, y'all right, Yeah, but he different,
he different. It's a lot of niggas out there different
like that. But that's a lot of niggas different. But
scared to be different. You know what I'm saying, Like, bru,
I know that I command, I know that I'm the
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everybody look to me. I know that I'm this, But
a lot of niggas don't want to step in that
light because they don't want that responsibility. Yeah, but you
know sometimes that come with timing, not for sure, but
not me. I don't believe in that. I don't believe
in time. I believe time is now cause we run.
Everybody alall be like, bag, why you move so fast
while you're so I'm patient?
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You you you you just you fucking ancient nigga? You genuine?
You too anxious? No, Bro, I just I don't know.
I always moved like I was running out of time.
What it is that? Is that anxiety? It's my when
you always move like you out of sign like come on,
come on, man, let's go.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Let like I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Always jittery, like, ain't this gotta be anxiety? But I
play it to my advantage, even with even with things
I gotta do, like and I'm never late. I'm always
I'm late on purpose if I'm late. Other than that,
I'm saying, thirty men, I got thirty mens, to wait
on these folks.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
I'm never late. I'm never you know what I'm saying,
only on late if I just.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Don't want to go, Like, so are you?
Speaker 2 (57:58):
So you're not patient? No, I'm praying for that, but
I'm patience. I ain't patient with like move how I move,
But I'm patient with people and things I care about.
You know what I'm saying. I'm patient with the money,
like that shit gonna come, But I ain't patient with
my time. If that makes sense, like being placed and
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prompt then like knowing like I'm playing the head like
I ain't feeling let traffic catch me if I'm playing.
If I'm finling the interview shot at John today it's
seven o'clock. I don't play golf the earliest shit right,
just in case I get back. I got a chance
to cut my hair, do what I gotta do. I'm chilling.
I can chill, smoke blood, fuck chantelle if I want to,
then come over and do my ship. You get what
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I'm saying. I got my time.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
So you pretty much, so you are patient?
Speaker 2 (58:44):
You ain't You ain't because impatient can be almost like saying,
you know what I mean you'll be you'll go to tripping.
But what's that?
Speaker 3 (58:52):
No, Like I just can't generate, Like I'm just generous
a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Well, I mean you say something I guess Yeah, yeah, underssard.
I mean that's why I ask you the different word,
like you may you may do have anxiety. I do,
but you may not be impatient. That's crazy, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but I be praying for me.
I need to pray for my anxiety and not in
because it's just like you need to find out what
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you need to do. A self donal I did.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
I got everything that mental illness is. I got everything.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
I got abandonment issues mm hmm, a hel passed trauma,
I have anxiety, got there? What else? What else?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
This ship is?
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I'm bipolar PTSD. Niggas like us got everything. Niggas just
don't want to see it because they feel appealed to
be weak. I don't know, vulnerable, vulnerable. I'm everything. I
looked up everything in the book of like mental earnings, Like, damn,
I got that and me Damn I be doing that
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self doubt everything, brou Niggas got everything on the list.
If you be honest with yourself. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You know what, man, this is a mental health is
at an all time rate for real. A lot of
the ship that you were just saying that niggas really
have they just ignored it and it just continued and continued,
and a lot of nigga when the chain came behind
and she did not even knowing that exactly nigga ain't
(01:00:25):
mental healthy. Well he ain't gonna walk right out there
and walk right in front of car, now, you know
what I'm saying. He ain't that kind of mental health.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
So you how we grew up. If you ate that
kind of mental health, you ain up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, it's a good joy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Jumping around you ain't mental health. Yeah you're good. But
this boy throwed out like yeah, the boy hell got
he can't sit down, You can't listen, he can't he
can't comprehend.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I mean, spas out on the dime.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Them facts. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That ship looked different, bro, men, hell looked differ. Even
even even even a woman would have broken heart. She's
fucking she dealing with mental issues. Yeah, I mean, life
sometimes takes you through it. Yeah, takes you through it
like serious, like you know, you know, I got a
nonprofit that I'm lunching.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
We ain't really got to number of things that I
got going on because we've been just talking about other
little different stuff. But I got a non profit that
I'm lunching that it's helping. It's helping people like me.
When I came home, I really didn't have nobody to
sit me down and guide me and say, look, this
is what you need to do first, this is what
(01:01:38):
you need to do sopping, this is what you need
to hear, this is what you need to do overall
to get yourself together. I really didn't have that. So
on my program, it's targeting you know, people that have
done X amount of years. You gotta be a ten
year and better because the level of what the level,
(01:02:00):
what the system really do to you. All that what
you're talking about, that's what they're fighting against. Yes, then
they come right back to the street because I was
at first I would love that. Yeah, I can't really
get it, can't really figure nothing out. I ain't really
got nobody, you know what I'm saying to to help
you figure it out, and you fight against all that
(01:02:21):
what youre just talking now, hey man. And that's how
that's how they end up repeating, going back. You know
what I'm saying, that's when that level hopeless hopelessness sit in.
Yeah yeah, Mama had to do I speak on this
our time. He this is my boy. He did twenty
(01:02:44):
two years. Right, yeah, So he came home, he came home,
He came home and right, you know, spend a little
time out. He was doing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
He was taking little kids, doing a different stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So you know, I used to have once I had
the little club I had, right, I used to hire
them because when nobody else hired, So I just had
niggas down there who ain't got no experience and none
of this ship. And I just teach me as ago
make up a job.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Used to slash you managed, slash character.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
You parked, not class, cook, make a drink.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
That yet a nigga some.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Kind of action. Now you're my man. You're watching everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, matter fact, I'm going to mind and you turning
to me.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You know what I'm saying. It looked like my already.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Working the bell that giant right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Got a nigga that never So my man came home
and things kind of on and down. It was. It was,
it was yeah, you know, with the business and all
that kind of stuff. So I couldn't really do nothing
for him. So he uh, he a wild boy to
a little bit. But he had older he understands, you
(01:04:00):
know what I'm saying, got older kids and stuff, so
his perspective had changed, you know what I'm saying.
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