July 19, 2023 • 32 mins
Shane and Marty catch up with PING Pro Tyrrell Hatton inside the Tour Truck to discuss his recent tour success, why he plays a 7-wood, memories of his first Open qualifier, and a rare six-man playoff win.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The guys from paying.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters.
I just love that I can hit any shot I
kind of want.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to the Ping Proovy Grounds podcast. I'm Shane Baker,
that's Marty Jerks, and we have Tyrol hatton with us.
I've been really excited about this. I find you very interesting,
very fascinating, and I always say you're my favorite golfer
to watch play golf. So I want to start with this.
If you were commentating on golf, what do you think
you'd say about yourself on the golf course?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Probably just along the lines of he doesn't look very happy.
I think just keep it very simple.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are you happy when you play?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Not very often?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, even when you're playing well.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm pretty good at still finding something to moan about.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So, but you, but you seem like a happy person,
Like you're you're a lovely person. I mean, I've got
a chance to interact with you a few times. But
you're not a grumpy guy. You're not a mean guy.
You're like a nice sky So why is it that
when you're on the golf course it seems or feels
like you're a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Grumpy, I don't know, being ultra competitive and I guess
a perfectionist and one in and yeah, and everyone hit
a bad shot, and there's certain times in tournaments where
it's it's more frustrating than others.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Were you, like tho, as a junior golfer or grown up?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Is this kind of a bold no?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, no, as I'm potentially calmer now, which is probably
scary to hear that. Yeah, I had a few dodgy
moments in my teens on the golf course and at tournaments,
but we probably shouldn't go down that route.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
If you I mean, like you said, you're working on it,
trying to improve. You're better than you were when you
were a kid. Is that something that you actually spend
time trying to get better at in terms of the
way you feel on the golf course?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Ah? No, I mean I think there's as I said,
there's times in a tournament where I can kind of
deal with it better than maybe other times. Yeah. And
then sometimes you know, we're all human and have a
really bad night sleep and you're naturally, just a bit
more grumpy that day than you typically would be. Some
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other thing. Certain things bother you more than they should. So, yeah,
my everyone has bad days.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I guess tyroll your your game like I'm looking. I mean,
like I know we talk. I mean, I know a
lot of people talk to you about the way you
act or look like on the golf course. The golf
game has been spectacular, and I mean you've had fifteen
starts on the PGA Tour this year, fourteen cuts, me
ten top twenty five's, six top tens, you've had a
runner up. I mean, it's polished right now. Where do
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you feel like you are right now with your golf game?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it's been a it's been a good run this year.
This year, I've tried to make more of an effort
off the golf course with just like training in the
gym and yeah, trying to certainly in a tournament week,
be a little bit better with what I eat and drink.
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I think in twenty twenty, which was my best best
year on the FedEx, I know there was limited events
with everything that went on, but that was probably the
fittest I'd ever been in my life. I was training
a lot, and sort of midway through twenty twenty one,
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early twenty one that kind of really tailed off and
I'd sort of slipped back into not training and yeah,
just things like that. And so this year just made
a conscious effort to try and be better off the
golf course. And yes, I feel fitter, and I think
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that's definitely how my golf game. I still I still
enjoy myself in terms of like, I'm not super strict
in the sense of I'm not gonna I If I
want something to eat type thing or certain drink, then
I probably will, but I'll make sure that I've I've
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earned it rather than just doing it for this because
you can. So yeah, I think that's been a that's
played a huge part in how I've played this year.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So you talked about twenty twenty being very high up
on the FedEx. How much do you am always curious
about this? How much do you look at your stats?
You know, are you just looking at finishes FedEx points
or are you getting down into strokes gain stats different you know,
better or worse in certain areas and using that to
improve your game, or a little more just kind of
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going off your feel of what's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, it would probably be more feel I'd always be
curious at the end of a around or end of
the tournament to see how I stacked up against the field.
It's funny because I always feel like my I don't
have a bad short game, but then I'm a pretty
aggressive player and I will miss it in some pretty
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horrible spots. Yeah, So even though I feel like I've
got a decent short game, like my short game stats
would be horrendous. Ah, yeah, because it's been like, oh,
you're eight yards away, which is pretty close, but you've
chipped it to twenty feet, which actually.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Was caused by the ball. It was kind of caused
by the ball striking.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You hit in the wrong spot, right, Yeah, But essentially
I'm only eight yards away from the pin, so I'm
not that far out. I've just missed it in a
horrible spot. So now I can't actually chip it that close.
Then I fit a really good chip shop it's still
twenty feet. So then I feel like sometimes stats can
be a bit more punishing and how than how you
truly feel.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, you're iron player. Iron stout's a bit phenomenal. Do
you would you consider yourself a little bit more aggressive
than the than the average player in that regard.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I would say so. I think certainly when you're
you feel you feel confident, that that's the time when
you should be sort of maybe more aggressive. Naturally, we
all go through times where you don't feel as comfortable
and you might be ham or conservative. But yeah, I mean,
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so far this year, we've we've we've played nicely, and
I think there's there's certain times on a golf course
where you have to try and take advantage of where
you've positioned positioned yourself off the tea.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What about left pins? Right pins? Any more comfort? Do
shape them? In?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
There?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Do you play one shot shape? Do you prefer left
or right? No one over the other.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I never, I never think about shaping the golf ball.
If I if I do think about shaping it generally
goes horribly wrong. To be honest, I I've always just
picked a point and just hit it at that with
with irons, which is generally the pin, and then with
drivers with the driver, I've always had a shot shape
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naturally falling left to right, and so I just again
I am a hair left of target, and I always
try and score a goal I'll try and pick two
points and yeah, and kind of see how many see
how many goals we can score in around. I always
found that that was quite a nice visual for me,
certainly times when you play if a fair ways like
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quite wide, and you know, you just need to sort
of narrow in a bit better. I think choosing a
small goal is always a good thing. I always liked
the quote from American Sniper always says aim small miss small.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, what's the goal look like in your brain? Is
it a soccer goal?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Not so much. It would just be for example, like
two trees they might be five yards eight ten yards apart,
but that they're like posts, right, And I just need
to and that's my visual.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Interesting, Yeah, I mean I remember I was. I was
talking to Paul easing Or he told me when he
won the PGA Championship. He saw he was hitting at
a barn the week before the PGA and he said
he would start it on the left side of the
barn and it would in on the right. He said,
the whole week he just kept seeing that barn, you know,
and sort of think about the goal in your brain,
you know, to hit the goal. It simplifies the game
for you. I mean, you're not thinking about cutting or
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hooking the golf ball. It's just simply if I can
hit it in the goal, I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, I mean in theory. Yeah. And if you are
hitting your goal, certainly off the tee, then it gives
you confidence when you stand on the next one.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It is nice. Said the proving grounds. We have the
posts on the fence in the back. They're exactly twenty
yards wide, which is you're playing a major, I mean
twenty yards. If you can hit a twenty yard wide fairway,
unless you're doing really, unless you're wing for sure, you'd
be good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We maybe we shouldn't go talking about wing foot.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're we'll get to golf courses. I was. I was
asking some of the guys around the truck, and they
said that you pay the most attention to your equipment
of anybody in terms of a ping professional. Will you
come in here and kind of watch them build your
clubs or what are you the most focused on in
terms of builds when you get something new made or
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something new Bill.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It probably stems from my dad. So my dad runs
a business back home, custom club fitting and teaching, so
he's he's been doing that since I was I think
ten maybe eleven years old. So yeah, growing up watching
him always build clubs. Yeah, so naturally kind of Yeah,
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be in the truck and see see how things.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He's easy to hover. Do you have a spot in
your house that you can build?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, I wouldn't build. I would quite appy someone else.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I got you, I got you. You've been a big
seven wood guy as well. I'm hearing seven wind of
the bag this week.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, I think I've used seven woods since it's almost
near the start of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Really, yeah, you're like an og seven would guy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, well I copied FITSI I think in that sense
he's been using it longer than me. But yeah, I
generally struggled with rescues like naturally, my my mishits would
be slightly more towards the toe and so early on,
I just and going back earlier, like my natural shop shape.
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Certainly with the driver and woods would be sort of
falling right. So with the toe strike with the rescue,
I'd always see it going a little bit left and
that that's never a comfortable visual for me. And so yeah,
I tried the seven word. It's it's quite short. It's
it's only maybe an inch and a half longer than
my fore iron. So for a wood that feels really short,
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but it feels like it'd be really easy to hit.
And yeah, with the loft, it's still it still goes
through the rough.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah. Well, I think the length on yours is forty
and a half for forty in a quarter, so it's
it's an inch. It's over an inch shorter than like
a standard seven wood. I think that's a theme we're
seeing Shane with the with Turtle and some of the
players is high lofted fairy woods. They're a little bit shorter,
they can manage the gap and then they don't go
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too far for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, right, exactly. So it always it's always fitted in
nicely between the four iron and the three wood. It
generally carries around two hundred and thirty five, sometimes to forty,
so it's that's yeah, that's a nice number for me.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, Tyrell, when did you go beard? When did you
decide I'm going to be a beard guy? Because I
feel like I don't really remember you beardless.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, it hides the double chin. Okay, Yeah, so that
was a big part of the Scars the decision making.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't think i'd
see a double.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Chin right now with sharp yeah stuff. I think it
was after the Ryder Cup in twenty eighteen. I was
I'm just not going to shave for the rest of
the year, which Emily, my out wife, she was probably
not enjoying that visual come Christmas. But we had some
fun with it. It was We've got some white beard
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spray and we put some Christmas ball. So, yeah, it
was a good. Look.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You have a photo of this, I do, Okay, I
might have to see that at some point. It look
good when so you so you're telling me you haven't
been clean shaved since eighteen? Have you have you you
hadn't ripped it all the way down like no, I
mean us open green level or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I yeah, I prefer it longer. Yeah, I just
feel like it. It looks better.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, I think I think you're you're a beard
guy for life. Potentially.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I just wish I had a stronger tash. Tash is
pretty weak.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You're saying you this can't grow. The DEPI up here
is a little low.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, gets windy.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Outside of my blowoff, Tyl you're you're if you continue
to improve year over year is quite impressive. What what
do you think the key to that is? Like, you know,
over the last six, seven, eight years, every year it
seems like your strokes, gin, your finishes, your world rankings
continue to improve. What is uh, what's kind of the
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key ingredient to that improvement?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't know. I mean I feel like being out
here long enough now that you you get comfortable and
you having good results, it gives you confidence in yourself
that you know that you can on your good weeks
that you're you're going to be up there and giving
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yourself a chance to win. So I think just having
that experience and yeah, just feeling comfortable with where I'm
at and I said, now I know that I'm doing
the right things off the golf course and that goes
a long way.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, you're winning Bae Hill. I mean it was so
tough that week. I mean that golf course obviously always
plays very, very tough. Do you prefer a golf course
to play really hard then to play easy? In twenty
twenty two Underwents.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ah, I think it's nice to have the balance throughout
the year. Yeah, bay Hill always is carnage at the weekend,
just trying to hold on.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just hitting four or five irons all day everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, but it's not even that like the holes, even
when you're hitting wedge or like to even eight iron
and lower, like, it's just they're still so hard to
get the ball close and it's so easy to miss greens.
So yeah, like I said, it's nice to have the balance,
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but as long as the golf course is set up
kind of fair, then then it's all good.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Can you give us an example of, like, when you
think about a fair course set up in your brain,
what tournament or golf course comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know. I guess in my mind I would
always I'd always like the with par fives that if
you've if it's a narrow fairway, if you hit the fairway,
then you should be rewarded with being able to go
for the green. Okay, Like there's no point in I
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always I don't really enjoy part fives where even if
you hit the fairway, you're you're laying up. They're just boring, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Because then it almost feels like you're playing a part
of three because you're kind of all laying up to
the same spot. Yeah, and you're in theory you're hitting
the third shop in the fairway.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean the only thing you do is if you
do it the fairway, you're making your lay up like
a little bit easier. And like growing up watching a
lot of golf, I still watch golf on my weeks
off now and I always just think it's boring when
if you're watching the tournament and guys are fit a
good t shot and then there they have to lay up.
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So yeah, that's just my view.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, ChIL, let's talk about let's talk about your putter
in just things you like. You've worked with Tony Sarrano
a lot on pod models. I think you've been part
of the development of our OSLO model. You've played the
Oslo for quite some time, right, Yeah, and what particular
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little things are important to you in the putter, you know,
even down to putting the grip on at a certain
clocking orientation.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah. So I enjoyed working with Tony. I've used the
Oslo since the first week in the bag was the
Dunhill twenty sixteen, which was my first first win on
the European Tour. Yeah, so yeah, that is a special
week and I basically used the Oslo almost the whole
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time since there's been a few little changes in there,
just to scare it, you know, you need that. You
need that sometimes you've nervous. Yeah, it's to freshen it
up a little bit. But always always went back to it,
and there was just things that I felt the visual
of how I what I would rather see. It was
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certainly making it a little bit thinner and the head
marginally smaller. But the big thing for me would be
the sight line. I don't use a I never used
the line on the ball. I always use the line
on the putter to make sure that I'm hopefully aiming
where I want to be. And I think a slightly
thicker sight line which just makes it easier to aim,
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So that that's a big thing for me.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Marty. It's interesting. It's like we had walking in here earlier,
and just the line on the putter thing is so
interesting to hear two players that have completely different philosophy,
totally different line. You know. Joaquin said he didn't like
the line on his putter because he uses a line,
and he said it would feel like the lines didn't
match at times. And so for you it's it's.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I get that because certainly using the line on the
ball from when you're reading the part and you've got
the ball down and you check it, it looks good. But
there was when I did try and use to find
there was so many times to serve the bomb. That's
that's way too low. That's way too you don't believe yourself. Yeah,
you just can't trust it. So I just eliminated that,
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and that's why I just went blank side of the
ball and trust myself that I'm aiming where I should be.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You mentioned your dad earlier. Do you still work with
your dad on golf, swing and stuff?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Has he been your instructor your whole life?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, from from the age of ten ten or eleven, Yeah,
we've we've worked together. So I took part in junior clinics,
but before that age and and things like that. But yeah,
my dad's my dad's helped me massively from as I said,
ten or eleven.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It is how much has technology helped that relationship obviously
with you've been on the road all the time and
him not being able to travel, you know, week in
and week out.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean we tried it a little bit last
year with him coming out to tournaments, and I think
it trying to do work at tournaments never didn't didn't
work that well for me because I think ultimately you
you're off weeks is where you're going to try and
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get everything you want lined up so you can then
just go to the tournament, go out and play. And
there was times where I think last year I was
getting a bit frustrated, certainly on the range, because you
kind of just want like a magic pill, and it
doesn't work that way. So we just that was the
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first year that we tried coming out more to more tournaments,
and we both just kind of sat down at the
end of the year and figured that we both felt
the same, like it didn't really work that well, and
this year we were just he would only come out
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if I needed the help, and that would probably be
on and off week. So yeah, I think that's everyone's different.
Some guys want they coach there every week and you know,
always on the range, and I think, yeah, for me,
that would just be be way too much. I wouldn't
be able to deal with that. You end up with
too many thoughts in your head, and golf is a
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complicated game as it is. And I think the simpler
you make it, the better, the easier it is.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Shane asked you the question about, you know, challenging golf
courses in it it seems as if you, you know,
play your best golf on tough courses, against tough fields.
What do you think it is about your game and
or mentality that's kind of led to that?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, I think ultimately you want to be playing against
the the best players in the world as as often
as possible, And yeah, enjoying that competition and it gives
you It allows you to compare yourself to see where
you're at as well. And yeah, like this year has
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been great so far. I have played really nice in
in the elevated events and I haven't been too far
away from from winning a couple of times, which is exciting.
And yeah, hoping hoping my week arise pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What's the most nervous you've ever been on the golf course.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That that there's two times that jump out probably over
that too, and half at path to win it?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Okay, did it did it have movement? Like? Did you
have to play it anywhere outside the hole it all?
Or around?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well? I mean I couldn't believe that I managed to
leave the first put short in the first place was
like downhill left right. Yeah, like from twenty feet twenty
five feet wasn't really a nice part to have anyway,
with how fast the greens were, but I managed to
leave it. Yeah, just that awkward distance where you're like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
To make it, but I also have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, well it's one of them. If you missed
the whole, we've probably got like a six foot coming back,
and then if you miss that one, you've actually missed
a playoff and it's just a disaster. But yeah, I was.
I stood over that and the putter head was shaking,
and I was like, oh my god, please just hold
this and please don't miss because I didn't want the
embarrassment of, like, you've missed a two and half foot
put to win the tournament. I feel like that would
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have been quite hard to deal with. But Yeah. Another
time was when I was eighteen. I was qualifying for
the Open that's and Andrews in twenty ten at Ladybank,
and I knew that I was there or there abouts
and I was, so the thirty fifth hole of the day,
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it was a part three and I had seven iron,
and I mean, my the head, this was behind the
ball and it was all over the shop. I was,
oh my god, I was so nervous, but yeah, luckily
managed to hit it onto the green for about fifteen feet.
But that was when I was Yeah, these two moments.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Were That was in the local final qualifying.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, and I ended up qualifying for the tournament, which
was which was it was really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And you're that so that's seventeen. You're not even on eighteen.
It's not with the putter. It's kind of rare for
someone to be that nervous on a iron shot, right.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I get that I could get nervous on six or seven.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, No, it was just I think I kind of
had a rough idea of where I was at, and
I knew the top three players would qualify, and yeah,
being eighteen, it was my first experience of it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And it's seen Andrews to get to. It's the holy grail.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and yeah, I think what the confidence I took
from that was the fact I was so nervous and
I was still able to hit a good golf shot,
and yeah, I end up finishing Papa, and yeah, we
went through and play played the Openings and Andrews. So
that was that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So what's next? I mean, as your do you lay
out plans every year or you one of those people.
I mean you obviously, as I mentioned, have played great
on the PGA Tour. The major finishes have been very
consistent as of late. What is kind of the next
goal in tyr Olhattan's head. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I didn't really, I wouldn't sit down at the start
of the year and set out like a load of
goals I kind of I want to achieve. I've always
just had the mindset of just going out each week
that I'm going to go and play and just try
my best. Ultimately, you give it one hundred percent every
time you pitch up, then like you can't do anymore.
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I think it's only if you've if you've not put
the work in beforehand, and you know, if things aren't
going well on the golf course and you stop trying
as as hard as you can, I think that's when
you can be disappointed, like truly disappointed in yourself. So yeah,
I've just always just tried to go out and try
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my best as a I guess a side goal if
you like I wanted to. I want to be in
the Ryder Cup team this year. So that's I guess
a loose goal that I set myself, but it's it
always seems so far away at the start of the
year that you kind of don't want to get too
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far ahead of yourself. You just you just keep playing.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But yeah, yeah, Shane, I think we should maybe uh
talk to Tyro about some golf course questions.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So we've we've heard you. I mean, you've bagged on
some courses in your day. We've all done it. What
does a perfect till heat and golf course design look like?
Because obviously the par fives are reachable if you're in
the fairway. Do we have short part fours on the
on the Hatton design?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think, well, a mixture of some longer power fours
and some short ones. But then yeah, all the part threes,
they wouldn't be any longer than absolute max would be
like one eighty five, one ninety.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I love this course, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So like you might be getting a seven iron dirty
maybe on a part three.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, and that's to a back pin. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
we're not We're not going like one nineties to a
front page. Oh no, none of that. No, it's back
pin that's gonna be one.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
If you're playing the back fend, that's right. Yeah, wind
shots off teas or in front of you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I always I like being able to see where where
you're hitting it. So yeah, that would definitely be a
part of if I was ever to design a golf
course that would be.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Fairways are like like twenty yards wide or like forty
yards wide.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Um, it'd be wide, but then narrower in in certain
certain places. I think the part five should probably go
slightly narrower, maybe not to the twenty yard thing, just
as what we loosely touched on earlier. When you can
be best driver of the golf in the world and
you can't actually hit the fair way.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, I had a good one. I'd go where the
ball is.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, So yeah, maybe it wouldn't be two, Like thirties.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
A nice I think thirty is a good number.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's a solid number.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, it's like the Aaron Hills fairways. You mentioned healthy
eating and you know, trying to eat better during the week.
What's like your number one cheap meal if you're gonna
eat something super unhealthy?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh ah, I don't know. I'm I would tend to
drink my calories.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So food wise you can okay, but yeah I have
a weakness for grape juice and other things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Gotcha. It makes sense anything else.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Marty tarl Uh, how about that? I always want to
hear the story of the Was it a Turkish Turkish
Open with a six man playoff right under the lights?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What was that? Like? That?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That a playoff that big?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Do you guys put in the same group?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I know we split. So we did two two three balls.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Were you in the first one or the second one?
Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I think I think I was in the I think
I was in the first one, and yeah, i'm it
was barely intense. But the eighteenth there is a It's
a Reachaball part five. But the the fairway really narrows
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the sort of around the three hundred mark, and with
the fairies at the time being barely firm, you were
kind of getting into the narrower section. And it was
a fair way that I struggled to hit for most
pretty much the whole week, and then one time I
did actually hit it. I think we had a mud ball,
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which which was fun. I end up missing it. In
a horrible spot. The pin was on the left and
it was a two tier green sort of lower on
the left hand side and rising up on the right,
and I missed it long right and it was just
just dead. And I remember I chipped it across the
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other side of the green and then chipped in for birdie,
which effectively kept me in the playoff. Yeah, I think
we went it was six I want to say it
was five or six holes as well. By the end
of it, we had the floodlights on. You want that one?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You won on the fourth extra fourth?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, you play? Yeah, I just kept going down eighteen. Yeah,
flood floodlights on. You definitely didn't want to hit it
offline because and you wouldn't see. And yeah, it's just
uh lucky that that was ended up being being my week.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's so okay. My favorite golfer thing. I say this
all the time is the golfer memory. And I mean
just instantaneously. Now I know, obviously you go on to
win the Tournament're go, what's going on? But shot mudball?
Lie where he chipped it to. I bet he can
close his eyes and picture the chip in. It's just weird.
I mean, I probably don't remember what I had for
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dinner last night, but I guarantee you I could tell
you a golf shot I hit in twenty twelve. Yeah,
like the fact that golfers, it's so crazy that our
brains work like that, you know, it's just we're weird people.
How many people do you think you can name that
we're in that playoff?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I just I have a list cut Eric van ryin
is it schwab nice?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
A couple of couple of French players, Victor Perez was
in it, and Benjamin Hebert Hebert really Albert air Bert.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I went, that's a correct way to say it, and.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I haven't said I haven't said it correct yet. Yeah,
but you I mean you did four. You did four.
That was pretty good, you know. I mean you weren't
in this group with all of them, for goodness sake,
It's not like you can remember everybody.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, I mean it's four years ago.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That's what I was wondering that if that's like the
biggest playoff, I mean, how I think we had an
eight person playoff one time on the PGA Tour. I
remember there was one years ago, and I think it
was a Tory and it was like seven or eight people.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, maybe Allenby might have won that one, but you
know that's that's always wild. Tyrrel, thank you for the time.
I really appreciate it. Good luck this week, keep killing it,
keep playing golf like you played. It's a lot of
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
This is the Pig Brobing Brown Podcast. Thank you so much.
Everybody
The guys from paying.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters.
I just love that I can hit any shot I
kind of want.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to the Ping Proovy Grounds podcast. I'm Shane Baker,
that's Marty Jerks, and we have Tyrol hatton with us.
I've been really excited about this. I find you very interesting,
very fascinating, and I always say you're my favorite golfer
to watch play golf. So I want to start with this.
If you were commentating on golf, what do you think
you'd say about yourself on the golf course?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Probably just along the lines of he doesn't look very happy.
I think just keep it very simple.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are you happy when you play?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Not very often?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, even when you're playing well.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm pretty good at still finding something to moan about.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So, but you, but you seem like a happy person,
Like you're you're a lovely person. I mean, I've got
a chance to interact with you a few times. But
you're not a grumpy guy. You're not a mean guy.
You're like a nice sky So why is it that
when you're on the golf course it seems or feels
like you're a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Grumpy, I don't know, being ultra competitive and I guess
a perfectionist and one in and yeah, and everyone hit
a bad shot, and there's certain times in tournaments where
it's it's more frustrating than others.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Were you, like tho, as a junior golfer or grown up?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Is this kind of a bold no?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, no, as I'm potentially calmer now, which is probably
scary to hear that. Yeah, I had a few dodgy
moments in my teens on the golf course and at tournaments,
but we probably shouldn't go down that route.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
If you I mean, like you said, you're working on it,
trying to improve. You're better than you were when you
were a kid. Is that something that you actually spend
time trying to get better at in terms of the
way you feel on the golf course?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Ah? No, I mean I think there's as I said,
there's times in a tournament where I can kind of
deal with it better than maybe other times. Yeah. And
then sometimes you know, we're all human and have a
really bad night sleep and you're naturally, just a bit
more grumpy that day than you typically would be. Some
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other thing. Certain things bother you more than they should. So, yeah,
my everyone has bad days.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I guess tyroll your your game like I'm looking. I mean,
like I know we talk. I mean, I know a
lot of people talk to you about the way you
act or look like on the golf course. The golf
game has been spectacular, and I mean you've had fifteen
starts on the PGA Tour this year, fourteen cuts, me
ten top twenty five's, six top tens, you've had a
runner up. I mean, it's polished right now. Where do
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you feel like you are right now with your golf game?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it's been a it's been a good run this year.
This year, I've tried to make more of an effort
off the golf course with just like training in the
gym and yeah, trying to certainly in a tournament week,
be a little bit better with what I eat and drink.
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I think in twenty twenty, which was my best best
year on the FedEx, I know there was limited events
with everything that went on, but that was probably the
fittest I'd ever been in my life. I was training
a lot, and sort of midway through twenty twenty one,
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early twenty one that kind of really tailed off and
I'd sort of slipped back into not training and yeah,
just things like that. And so this year just made
a conscious effort to try and be better off the
golf course. And yes, I feel fitter, and I think
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that's definitely how my golf game. I still I still
enjoy myself in terms of like, I'm not super strict
in the sense of I'm not gonna I If I
want something to eat type thing or certain drink, then
I probably will, but I'll make sure that I've I've
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earned it rather than just doing it for this because
you can. So yeah, I think that's been a that's
played a huge part in how I've played this year.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So you talked about twenty twenty being very high up
on the FedEx. How much do you am always curious
about this? How much do you look at your stats?
You know, are you just looking at finishes FedEx points
or are you getting down into strokes gain stats different you know,
better or worse in certain areas and using that to
improve your game, or a little more just kind of
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going off your feel of what's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, it would probably be more feel I'd always be
curious at the end of a around or end of
the tournament to see how I stacked up against the field.
It's funny because I always feel like my I don't
have a bad short game, but then I'm a pretty
aggressive player and I will miss it in some pretty
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horrible spots. Yeah, So even though I feel like I've
got a decent short game, like my short game stats
would be horrendous. Ah, yeah, because it's been like, oh,
you're eight yards away, which is pretty close, but you've
chipped it to twenty feet, which actually.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Was caused by the ball. It was kind of caused
by the ball striking.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You hit in the wrong spot, right, Yeah, But essentially
I'm only eight yards away from the pin, so I'm
not that far out. I've just missed it in a
horrible spot. So now I can't actually chip it that close.
Then I fit a really good chip shop it's still
twenty feet. So then I feel like sometimes stats can
be a bit more punishing and how than how you
truly feel.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, you're iron player. Iron stout's a bit phenomenal. Do
you would you consider yourself a little bit more aggressive
than the than the average player in that regard.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I would say so. I think certainly when you're
you feel you feel confident, that that's the time when
you should be sort of maybe more aggressive. Naturally, we
all go through times where you don't feel as comfortable
and you might be ham or conservative. But yeah, I mean,
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so far this year, we've we've we've played nicely, and
I think there's there's certain times on a golf course
where you have to try and take advantage of where
you've positioned positioned yourself off the tea.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What about left pins? Right pins? Any more comfort? Do
shape them? In?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
There?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Do you play one shot shape? Do you prefer left
or right? No one over the other.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I never, I never think about shaping the golf ball.
If I if I do think about shaping it generally
goes horribly wrong. To be honest, I I've always just
picked a point and just hit it at that with
with irons, which is generally the pin, and then with
drivers with the driver, I've always had a shot shape
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naturally falling left to right, and so I just again
I am a hair left of target, and I always
try and score a goal I'll try and pick two
points and yeah, and kind of see how many see
how many goals we can score in around. I always
found that that was quite a nice visual for me,
certainly times when you play if a fair ways like
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quite wide, and you know, you just need to sort
of narrow in a bit better. I think choosing a
small goal is always a good thing. I always liked
the quote from American Sniper always says aim small miss small.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, what's the goal look like in your brain? Is
it a soccer goal?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Not so much. It would just be for example, like
two trees they might be five yards eight ten yards apart,
but that they're like posts, right, And I just need
to and that's my visual.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Interesting, Yeah, I mean I remember I was. I was
talking to Paul easing Or he told me when he
won the PGA Championship. He saw he was hitting at
a barn the week before the PGA and he said
he would start it on the left side of the
barn and it would in on the right. He said,
the whole week he just kept seeing that barn, you know,
and sort of think about the goal in your brain,
you know, to hit the goal. It simplifies the game
for you. I mean, you're not thinking about cutting or
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hooking the golf ball. It's just simply if I can
hit it in the goal, I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, I mean in theory. Yeah. And if you are
hitting your goal, certainly off the tee, then it gives
you confidence when you stand on the next one.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It is nice. Said the proving grounds. We have the
posts on the fence in the back. They're exactly twenty
yards wide, which is you're playing a major, I mean
twenty yards. If you can hit a twenty yard wide fairway,
unless you're doing really, unless you're wing for sure, you'd
be good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We maybe we shouldn't go talking about wing foot.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're we'll get to golf courses. I was. I was
asking some of the guys around the truck, and they
said that you pay the most attention to your equipment
of anybody in terms of a ping professional. Will you
come in here and kind of watch them build your
clubs or what are you the most focused on in
terms of builds when you get something new made or
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something new Bill.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It probably stems from my dad. So my dad runs
a business back home, custom club fitting and teaching, so
he's he's been doing that since I was I think
ten maybe eleven years old. So yeah, growing up watching
him always build clubs. Yeah, so naturally kind of Yeah,
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be in the truck and see see how things.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He's easy to hover. Do you have a spot in
your house that you can build?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, I wouldn't build. I would quite appy someone else.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I got you, I got you. You've been a big
seven wood guy as well. I'm hearing seven wind of
the bag this week.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, I think I've used seven woods since it's almost
near the start of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Really, yeah, you're like an og seven would guy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, well I copied FITSI I think in that sense
he's been using it longer than me. But yeah, I
generally struggled with rescues like naturally, my my mishits would
be slightly more towards the toe and so early on,
I just and going back earlier, like my natural shop shape.
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Certainly with the driver and woods would be sort of
falling right. So with the toe strike with the rescue,
I'd always see it going a little bit left and
that that's never a comfortable visual for me. And so yeah,
I tried the seven word. It's it's quite short. It's
it's only maybe an inch and a half longer than
my fore iron. So for a wood that feels really short,
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but it feels like it'd be really easy to hit.
And yeah, with the loft, it's still it still goes
through the rough.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah. Well, I think the length on yours is forty
and a half for forty in a quarter, so it's
it's an inch. It's over an inch shorter than like
a standard seven wood. I think that's a theme we're
seeing Shane with the with Turtle and some of the
players is high lofted fairy woods. They're a little bit shorter,
they can manage the gap and then they don't go
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too far for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, right, exactly. So it always it's always fitted in
nicely between the four iron and the three wood. It
generally carries around two hundred and thirty five, sometimes to forty,
so it's that's yeah, that's a nice number for me.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, Tyrell, when did you go beard? When did you
decide I'm going to be a beard guy? Because I
feel like I don't really remember you beardless.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, it hides the double chin. Okay, Yeah, so that
was a big part of the Scars the decision making.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't think i'd
see a double.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Chin right now with sharp yeah stuff. I think it
was after the Ryder Cup in twenty eighteen. I was
I'm just not going to shave for the rest of
the year, which Emily, my out wife, she was probably
not enjoying that visual come Christmas. But we had some
fun with it. It was We've got some white beard
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spray and we put some Christmas ball. So, yeah, it
was a good. Look.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You have a photo of this, I do, Okay, I
might have to see that at some point. It look
good when so you so you're telling me you haven't
been clean shaved since eighteen? Have you have you you
hadn't ripped it all the way down like no, I
mean us open green level or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I yeah, I prefer it longer. Yeah, I just
feel like it. It looks better.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, I think I think you're you're a beard
guy for life. Potentially.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I just wish I had a stronger tash. Tash is
pretty weak.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You're saying you this can't grow. The DEPI up here
is a little low.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, gets windy.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Outside of my blowoff, Tyl you're you're if you continue
to improve year over year is quite impressive. What what
do you think the key to that is? Like, you know,
over the last six, seven, eight years, every year it
seems like your strokes, gin, your finishes, your world rankings
continue to improve. What is uh, what's kind of the
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key ingredient to that improvement?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't know. I mean I feel like being out
here long enough now that you you get comfortable and
you having good results, it gives you confidence in yourself
that you know that you can on your good weeks
that you're you're going to be up there and giving
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yourself a chance to win. So I think just having
that experience and yeah, just feeling comfortable with where I'm
at and I said, now I know that I'm doing
the right things off the golf course and that goes
a long way.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, you're winning Bae Hill. I mean it was so
tough that week. I mean that golf course obviously always
plays very, very tough. Do you prefer a golf course
to play really hard then to play easy? In twenty
twenty two Underwents.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ah, I think it's nice to have the balance throughout
the year. Yeah, bay Hill always is carnage at the weekend,
just trying to hold on.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just hitting four or five irons all day everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, but it's not even that like the holes, even
when you're hitting wedge or like to even eight iron
and lower, like, it's just they're still so hard to
get the ball close and it's so easy to miss greens.
So yeah, like I said, it's nice to have the balance,
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but as long as the golf course is set up
kind of fair, then then it's all good.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Can you give us an example of, like, when you
think about a fair course set up in your brain,
what tournament or golf course comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know. I guess in my mind I would
always I'd always like the with par fives that if
you've if it's a narrow fairway, if you hit the fairway,
then you should be rewarded with being able to go
for the green. Okay, Like there's no point in I
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always I don't really enjoy part fives where even if
you hit the fairway, you're you're laying up. They're just boring, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Because then it almost feels like you're playing a part
of three because you're kind of all laying up to
the same spot. Yeah, and you're in theory you're hitting
the third shop in the fairway.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean the only thing you do is if you
do it the fairway, you're making your lay up like
a little bit easier. And like growing up watching a
lot of golf, I still watch golf on my weeks
off now and I always just think it's boring when
if you're watching the tournament and guys are fit a
good t shot and then there they have to lay up.
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So yeah, that's just my view.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, ChIL, let's talk about let's talk about your putter
in just things you like. You've worked with Tony Sarrano
a lot on pod models. I think you've been part
of the development of our OSLO model. You've played the
Oslo for quite some time, right, Yeah, and what particular
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little things are important to you in the putter, you know,
even down to putting the grip on at a certain
clocking orientation.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah. So I enjoyed working with Tony. I've used the
Oslo since the first week in the bag was the
Dunhill twenty sixteen, which was my first first win on
the European Tour. Yeah, so yeah, that is a special
week and I basically used the Oslo almost the whole
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time since there's been a few little changes in there,
just to scare it, you know, you need that. You
need that sometimes you've nervous. Yeah, it's to freshen it
up a little bit. But always always went back to it,
and there was just things that I felt the visual
of how I what I would rather see. It was
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certainly making it a little bit thinner and the head
marginally smaller. But the big thing for me would be
the sight line. I don't use a I never used
the line on the ball. I always use the line
on the putter to make sure that I'm hopefully aiming
where I want to be. And I think a slightly
thicker sight line which just makes it easier to aim,
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So that that's a big thing for me.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Marty. It's interesting. It's like we had walking in here earlier,
and just the line on the putter thing is so
interesting to hear two players that have completely different philosophy,
totally different line. You know. Joaquin said he didn't like
the line on his putter because he uses a line,
and he said it would feel like the lines didn't
match at times. And so for you it's it's.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I get that because certainly using the line on the
ball from when you're reading the part and you've got
the ball down and you check it, it looks good. But
there was when I did try and use to find
there was so many times to serve the bomb. That's
that's way too low. That's way too you don't believe yourself. Yeah,
you just can't trust it. So I just eliminated that,
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and that's why I just went blank side of the
ball and trust myself that I'm aiming where I should be.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You mentioned your dad earlier. Do you still work with
your dad on golf, swing and stuff?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Has he been your instructor your whole life?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, from from the age of ten ten or eleven, Yeah,
we've we've worked together. So I took part in junior clinics,
but before that age and and things like that. But yeah,
my dad's my dad's helped me massively from as I said,
ten or eleven.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It is how much has technology helped that relationship obviously
with you've been on the road all the time and
him not being able to travel, you know, week in
and week out.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean we tried it a little bit last
year with him coming out to tournaments, and I think
it trying to do work at tournaments never didn't didn't
work that well for me because I think ultimately you
you're off weeks is where you're going to try and
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get everything you want lined up so you can then
just go to the tournament, go out and play. And
there was times where I think last year I was
getting a bit frustrated, certainly on the range, because you
kind of just want like a magic pill, and it
doesn't work that way. So we just that was the
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first year that we tried coming out more to more tournaments,
and we both just kind of sat down at the
end of the year and figured that we both felt
the same, like it didn't really work that well, and
this year we were just he would only come out
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if I needed the help, and that would probably be
on and off week. So yeah, I think that's everyone's different.
Some guys want they coach there every week and you know,
always on the range, and I think, yeah, for me,
that would just be be way too much. I wouldn't
be able to deal with that. You end up with
too many thoughts in your head, and golf is a
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complicated game as it is. And I think the simpler
you make it, the better, the easier it is.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Shane asked you the question about, you know, challenging golf
courses in it it seems as if you, you know,
play your best golf on tough courses, against tough fields.
What do you think it is about your game and
or mentality that's kind of led to that?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, I think ultimately you want to be playing against
the the best players in the world as as often
as possible, And yeah, enjoying that competition and it gives
you It allows you to compare yourself to see where
you're at as well. And yeah, like this year has
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been great so far. I have played really nice in
in the elevated events and I haven't been too far
away from from winning a couple of times, which is exciting.
And yeah, hoping hoping my week arise pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What's the most nervous you've ever been on the golf course.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That that there's two times that jump out probably over
that too, and half at path to win it?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Okay, did it did it have movement? Like? Did you
have to play it anywhere outside the hole it all?
Or around?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well? I mean I couldn't believe that I managed to
leave the first put short in the first place was
like downhill left right. Yeah, like from twenty feet twenty
five feet wasn't really a nice part to have anyway,
with how fast the greens were, but I managed to
leave it. Yeah, just that awkward distance where you're like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
To make it, but I also have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, well it's one of them. If you missed
the whole, we've probably got like a six foot coming back,
and then if you miss that one, you've actually missed
a playoff and it's just a disaster. But yeah, I was.
I stood over that and the putter head was shaking,
and I was like, oh my god, please just hold
this and please don't miss because I didn't want the
embarrassment of, like, you've missed a two and half foot
put to win the tournament. I feel like that would
(22:47):
have been quite hard to deal with. But Yeah. Another
time was when I was eighteen. I was qualifying for
the Open that's and Andrews in twenty ten at Ladybank,
and I knew that I was there or there abouts
and I was, so the thirty fifth hole of the day,
(23:07):
it was a part three and I had seven iron,
and I mean, my the head, this was behind the
ball and it was all over the shop. I was,
oh my god, I was so nervous, but yeah, luckily
managed to hit it onto the green for about fifteen feet.
But that was when I was Yeah, these two moments.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Were That was in the local final qualifying.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, and I ended up qualifying for the tournament, which
was which was it was really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And you're that so that's seventeen. You're not even on eighteen.
It's not with the putter. It's kind of rare for
someone to be that nervous on a iron shot, right.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I get that I could get nervous on six or seven.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, No, it was just I think I kind of
had a rough idea of where I was at, and
I knew the top three players would qualify, and yeah,
being eighteen, it was my first experience of it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And it's seen Andrews to get to. It's the holy grail.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and yeah, I think what the confidence I took
from that was the fact I was so nervous and
I was still able to hit a good golf shot,
and yeah, I end up finishing Papa, and yeah, we
went through and play played the Openings and Andrews. So
that was that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So what's next? I mean, as your do you lay
out plans every year or you one of those people.
I mean you obviously, as I mentioned, have played great
on the PGA Tour. The major finishes have been very
consistent as of late. What is kind of the next
goal in tyr Olhattan's head. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I didn't really, I wouldn't sit down at the start
of the year and set out like a load of
goals I kind of I want to achieve. I've always
just had the mindset of just going out each week
that I'm going to go and play and just try
my best. Ultimately, you give it one hundred percent every
time you pitch up, then like you can't do anymore.
(25:04):
I think it's only if you've if you've not put
the work in beforehand, and you know, if things aren't
going well on the golf course and you stop trying
as as hard as you can, I think that's when
you can be disappointed, like truly disappointed in yourself. So yeah,
I've just always just tried to go out and try
(25:28):
my best as a I guess a side goal if
you like I wanted to. I want to be in
the Ryder Cup team this year. So that's I guess
a loose goal that I set myself, but it's it
always seems so far away at the start of the
year that you kind of don't want to get too
(25:49):
far ahead of yourself. You just you just keep playing.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But yeah, yeah, Shane, I think we should maybe uh
talk to Tyro about some golf course questions.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So we've we've heard you. I mean, you've bagged on
some courses in your day. We've all done it. What
does a perfect till heat and golf course design look like?
Because obviously the par fives are reachable if you're in
the fairway. Do we have short part fours on the
on the Hatton design?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think, well, a mixture of some longer power fours
and some short ones. But then yeah, all the part threes,
they wouldn't be any longer than absolute max would be
like one eighty five, one ninety.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I love this course, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So like you might be getting a seven iron dirty
maybe on a part three.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, and that's to a back pin. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
we're not We're not going like one nineties to a
front page. Oh no, none of that. No, it's back
pin that's gonna be one.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
If you're playing the back fend, that's right. Yeah, wind
shots off teas or in front of you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I always I like being able to see where where
you're hitting it. So yeah, that would definitely be a
part of if I was ever to design a golf
course that would be.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Fairways are like like twenty yards wide or like forty
yards wide.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Um, it'd be wide, but then narrower in in certain
certain places. I think the part five should probably go
slightly narrower, maybe not to the twenty yard thing, just
as what we loosely touched on earlier. When you can
be best driver of the golf in the world and
you can't actually hit the fair way.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, I had a good one. I'd go where the
ball is.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, So yeah, maybe it wouldn't be two, Like thirties.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
A nice I think thirty is a good number.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's a solid number.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, it's like the Aaron Hills fairways. You mentioned healthy
eating and you know, trying to eat better during the week.
What's like your number one cheap meal if you're gonna
eat something super unhealthy?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh ah, I don't know. I'm I would tend to
drink my calories.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So food wise you can okay, but yeah I have
a weakness for grape juice and other things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Gotcha. It makes sense anything else.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Marty tarl Uh, how about that? I always want to
hear the story of the Was it a Turkish Turkish
Open with a six man playoff right under the lights?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What was that? Like? That?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That a playoff that big?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Do you guys put in the same group?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I know we split. So we did two two three balls.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Were you in the first one or the second one?
Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I think I think I was in the I think
I was in the first one, and yeah, i'm it
was barely intense. But the eighteenth there is a It's
a Reachaball part five. But the the fairway really narrows
(29:01):
the sort of around the three hundred mark, and with
the fairies at the time being barely firm, you were
kind of getting into the narrower section. And it was
a fair way that I struggled to hit for most
pretty much the whole week, and then one time I
did actually hit it. I think we had a mud ball,
(29:23):
which which was fun. I end up missing it. In
a horrible spot. The pin was on the left and
it was a two tier green sort of lower on
the left hand side and rising up on the right,
and I missed it long right and it was just
just dead. And I remember I chipped it across the
(29:43):
other side of the green and then chipped in for birdie,
which effectively kept me in the playoff. Yeah, I think
we went it was six I want to say it
was five or six holes as well. By the end
of it, we had the floodlights on. You want that one?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You won on the fourth extra fourth?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, you play? Yeah, I just kept going down eighteen. Yeah,
flood floodlights on. You definitely didn't want to hit it
offline because and you wouldn't see. And yeah, it's just
uh lucky that that was ended up being being my week.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's so okay. My favorite golfer thing. I say this
all the time is the golfer memory. And I mean
just instantaneously. Now I know, obviously you go on to
win the Tournament're go, what's going on? But shot mudball?
Lie where he chipped it to. I bet he can
close his eyes and picture the chip in. It's just weird.
I mean, I probably don't remember what I had for
(30:41):
dinner last night, but I guarantee you I could tell
you a golf shot I hit in twenty twelve. Yeah,
like the fact that golfers, it's so crazy that our
brains work like that, you know, it's just we're weird people.
How many people do you think you can name that
we're in that playoff?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I just I have a list cut Eric van ryin
is it schwab nice?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
A couple of couple of French players, Victor Perez was
in it, and Benjamin Hebert Hebert really Albert air Bert.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I went, that's a correct way to say it, and.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I haven't said I haven't said it correct yet. Yeah,
but you I mean you did four. You did four.
That was pretty good, you know. I mean you weren't
in this group with all of them, for goodness sake,
It's not like you can remember everybody.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, I mean it's four years ago.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That's what I was wondering that if that's like the
biggest playoff, I mean, how I think we had an
eight person playoff one time on the PGA Tour. I
remember there was one years ago, and I think it
was a Tory and it was like seven or eight people.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, maybe Allenby might have won that one, but you
know that's that's always wild. Tyrrel, thank you for the time.
I really appreciate it. Good luck this week, keep killing it,
keep playing golf like you played. It's a lot of
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
This is the Pig Brobing Brown Podcast. Thank you so much.
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