Be Kind, Rewind: “Once in Love with Amy” with Lee Norris

As we approach Season 6, we've decided to welcome back a few of our favorite past guests to specifically analyze one episode of their selection! So first up - Lee Norris, a.k.a. Minkus, joins the hosts to take a second look at Season 1's, “Once in Love with Amy."

Lee breaks down a very stressful week of filming and a familiar story of notes-induced pressure emerges. What did he know about the tag that saw some rare BMW special effects and what did his now six year old son think of seeing dad as an actor for the first time ever?
 
The group explores a fan theory that ties into our Topanga/Yale debate and Lee talks about what it was like to return for the end of Season 5.
 
We’re all heading back to the classroom, seated next to our favorite nerd, on a special Pod Meets World!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oh my stomach girds you guys, I went to I
went to a pilates class yesterday and it was really good.
And I know it's good because I can't laugh today
without being in pain.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, Pilates is that thing that everybody thinks they can
do and then they do it and they can't walk
for a weekend. Can you?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
If you just watch a pilates class, you're like, what
are those what do those.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
People think they're doing? And then you do it and
it's really hard.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Have you ever tried it?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I really think you would really love it. This was
a reformer class. You can do Matt pilates or you
can do them on a reformer. This was a Reformer
and man, the thing I'd say is that it's a
lot of like small movements or what looks very simple.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But man, you're working on the movements. Yes exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm sorry, but all that's going through my head is Reformer.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yeah no, no, that was that was a Snow was
his name.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
No, I'll never forget because his first album was titled
twelve Inches of Snow, So never forget that as long
as I look.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, Informer, all right, thank you very much, so talking
about a reformer.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Will have you ever done You've never done pilates.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I did pilates one time, and that was that was
three times too many for me.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I'd like to go back.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'm doing I'm big into the doing the calisthenics now,
which is a fun long way of saying, lots of
push ups. Okay, that's all that is. It's like yoga.
The first time I went to yoga, it's like, Oh,
they're just hiding doing seventy five push ups.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
That's all that yoga is. So I find.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yoga can be too mellow. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, oh,
I was for forty five minutes, I was stretching.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, which stretching is great for you. It's really good
for your body and your long term health. But yeah,
try again. We've talked about this. Not a sponsor, but
just the the better me app. I do that every day.
It's up to like a half hour a day. It's
sit ups, push ups, stretching, it's all kind of combined.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's great.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
And then I run every day still and do my elliptic.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know your twenty seven thousand steps that you get
in a day.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I do you crazy person?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
The thing I loved about my pilates class yesterday was
the instructor, Like, you can have the same class, but
depending on who is teaching it, it can just completely
change your entire thing.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh yeah, this is a big problem with yoga classes.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh really.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh well, if it gets to like, let's just sit
and talk about your intention for today.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
And oh God, are you intending to you?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh my god, are we? And then like they get
too personal, Like there's one teacher I just can't because
it's always about her personal journey that she's been on
and what happened this weekend, and it's like, no, no,
I sorry, Like that's it's not what I'm here for.
Oh god.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, well yeah, because yoga is it can it's also
a spiritual practice. So maybe if you go to somebody
who's leaning a little too heavy onto the spiritual side
and you're specifically there for a physical experience, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
My spiritual talk will will lower my cholesterol at the
end of the day.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
So you know, Uh, the instructor I had yesterday would
say things like.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And now slowly lower the reformer back down.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And every now and then someone would just like drop
and you hear all the things, and she'd go or that.
I just loved it because there was no like trying
to be overly polite.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was just really like, you're not doing this right.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
She said to my friend. My friend knows her really well.
She said to my friend, she was like, Oh, your
form for the upper body stuff is really good. My
friend goes, oh, it's just my lower body that.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yes, there's a lot of these things opening up near
us that are very straight like is it bunda? Yes, yeah,
that's that's all just uh stare masters right, which sounds
just awful awful.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I don't know. I need to do I need
to do something. Oh, Tara producer there, I died.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, it opened right near us, and it is it's
just you see these women like crawling out of these
these classes that are and then there's the other one
where you tie a rope to your your waist and
it goes all the way to the to the ceiling
and you like fly around. Have you see these Wow,
that's like anything sit ups and push ups. It's just
like I'm gonna fly myself to help.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I still go to our karate studio twice a week,
not during karate time. But my karate instructor, which is
a women's class on Wednesdays and Friday mornings.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So's I've been going Miss Savannah.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Miss Savannah, who is a badass.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh yeah, Miss Savanna heard her knee. Oh no, no,
she's going to the doctor today, She's right.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
But anyway, Miss Savannah, I've been going to her class.
That's pretty amazing. My my as one of my best friends,
Jamie Jewelry, Jamie Jamie friends.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You have to know ever find jewelry.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
She has gotten really, really in shape over the last
couple of years, and she said that when she first
went to Bunda, it was so hard she nearly died.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
And now she works out so much. She's like, now
Bunda's too easy for me. I can't go to it.
It's and I'm like, what, yeah, so I don't know,
but I have started working out more.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm going to start the martial arts class again, but
I think I'm gonna do MMA this time.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wow, It's just the problem was with our karate play.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
No, our karate place was great, it was just it
was far away and the class was later at night,
and I think I can do an afternoon class at
the MMA.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Is going to be all grappling, though, aren't you just
going to be like on the ground like?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
But that's what they say.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
The whole the whole premise of MMA is nine out
of ten fights and on the ground anyway, So take
them down first and getting in fights.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Do you need to learn how to fight or exercise.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
All the time? I do? I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would curl into a ball and just be No.
I want the exercise, But I also like the skill.
I like the I like the kind of the tactician
side of it. It's like human chess, which I think is.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But to get into the octagon.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I always tell Sue that if I find myself in
the octagon a, I'm going to tap out right in
the locker room because that's the easiest way to do it.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
But also something horribly has gone wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
If I need to fight in the octagon in any way,
shape or form, it just that's not going to work.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
I could see you as a fighter.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Writer, I know you could see writer as a fighter.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
No, all I would do is cry and never give up.
That's that I mean. I would be the I would
be if anybody like punches me or like I'm like,
I'm going to kill you, and I would just be crying.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
But why are we doing this?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I hate now I have to kill you, oh my god.
And I wouldn't be able to give up. I would
never tap out. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I always tell Sue, I just have to be fast
enough to outrun her from danger and then I'm.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Fine, And then you're fine.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's all you.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, I just got to be faster than my wife.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
And I'm good.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Welcome tou Pond meets World. I'm Danielle Fischl, I'm right
or strong, and I'm Wilfred Dell.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
And if we could just all take a deep cleansing breath. No,
just let's talk about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, a stawn mistay, tell me about your weekend.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Wekend.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So during this year gap year, we want to try
out some things that we have been meaning to do
for the past few seasons, and one of those things
is the be Kind Rewind episode. When we have talked
with guests many times, we have casually thrown out the
idea of certain cast members and writers coming back to
recap a specific episode with us get a little more

(07:48):
direct about their memories and because we're just barreling through
these Boy Meets World seasons, we never got around to it. Well,
here we are ready to enroll in college, and there
is no better time to try it. Since we first
welcomed this guest during season one of Podmeats World, there
has been a constant barrage of Instagram comments and emails

(08:10):
asking for his return, and we get why we have
wanted him to come back just as bad, not only
to the podcast, but on this thirty year old sitcom
we're watching. Imagine if he just reappeared at Penbrook as
Corey's roommate.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Over the past.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Two years, we had a few scheduled tape days in
the books that either had to be postponed or fell through.
But now, during our first pack of be kind Rewind episodes,
we knew we had to invite him back and go
a little deeper into his character for a second look.
He has chosen season one, episode twelve, Once in Love
with Amy, which debuted on January seventh, nineteen ninety four,

(08:49):
and it's obvious why he chose it. Stuart Mingus sure
does shine in it.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
So hold the plane.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's finally time to welcome back our good friend Lee Norris.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
You good to see you.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
Is everybody safe, yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, we're all pretty lucky.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
We all kind of die very lucky. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Good. I'm so glad. It's been you know, nothing like
being there but frightening to watch from afar and wonder
about your friends.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So yeah, I know. And how are you in North Carolina?

Speaker 7 (09:25):
We're good, We're good. So you know, I'm sure where
Jackie is in the western part of the state is
where most of that yeah station was, So we're in
the center part of the state.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So okay, so you were also safe from that as well. Okay,
So right now.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
We've done disaster check out.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Now we can laugh, right.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So, Lee, we asked you to pick any episode to
break down, and you picked Once in Love with Amy,
and so I want to give our listeners a little
bit of a recap. In this episode, Corey learns a
lesson when he and his older brother suspect their mother
is having an affair. Meanwhile, at school, Corey and his
classmates face a difficult math problem. It was directed by

(10:07):
David Traynor and it was written by Ken Kuda. So,
without giving too much away about your thoughts of the
recent viewing, why did this episode come to mind for you.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Well I was first surprised when I got the email
to come back. I thought, boy, they're really taking their
time moving through this series. One deep dive and I
can't It was really really really cool if you guys
asked me to come back and talk about something. So yeah,
I was thinking about, you know, about all the episodes,

(10:38):
and I remember most of them, but this is one
that I think kind of sticks out in my mind.
Certainly I had more to do as a character in
this episode, Danielle. You were in it, which is always yeah.
Plus yeah, and there was more about the behind the
scenes kind of that I remember that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
We'll go but well, you were laugh out loud funny.
I mean like it's funny, yes, which might be the
first time it happened in the series.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
In the series, yeah, I think, so yeah, did.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I need Boy?

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Did I need it? I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Really, Okay, I can't wait to get into it because
you are just such a star in this episode.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
It's good, so amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Really tell that they were just loving it too. We
have to write to this and then just kept giving
you new levels.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
It's so funny.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
It was fun. It was a fun art.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So this was your twelfth episode out of the twenty
three you appeared in, and we made you watch it
for us again today. What were your feelings when you
first encountered watching a little Lee on screen.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Oh? Well, first of all, you didn't make me, but
I will say this. This, This is you know, Kim
about at an interesting time. You guys know, I have
a six year old son at home. You know, we
live in North Carolina, and so we haven't really had
this conversation with him yet. Of oh Dad was on TV.
It really come up, and you know he's he loves

(12:05):
Netflix and Disney and you know, watching the shows. Danielle.
I think we've talked about Bluie more.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Times than Oh.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, he loves all of that.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
And so I he's getting to the age now at
six where I think he's starting to realize when we
go out and sometimes people ask for a picture with dad, Okay,
maybe that's not totally normal.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, that's not happening to other kids parents maybe not.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
So I thought, okay, this is a good time to
talk about it. So he actually sat down and watched
the episode with me, and it was really so that
I just kind of want to set the stage a bit.
It was really kind of surreal and cool because.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
This is the first time you've ever watched any of
your work with your son.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
It's probably yeah, it hasn't watched Yeah, he hasn't watched
One Tree Hill later, but so, yeah, this is a
really cool moment. And you know, God, did you ever
think like back? I mean, we were kids.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's just you couldn't have imagined it.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
I just couldn't wrap my brain around it. So that
was really cool. And then second was and I'm sure
you've talked about this at length, but to just identify
so much with Alan and Amy more so now with
Corey and Minkus in the gas at the table, it
is just surreal. So I don't know how interesting that
is to listeners, but for me, it was a trip

(13:23):
to do that.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
And I'm sure you guys are, well, you're not that
much older in the episode than your son is now.
I mean, when you think about it, you're really not
that much older. So it's oh man, it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I got to jump in and say I put this
episode on and Indy was supposed to go to bed,
and he was like, wait, wait, wait is this first season?
I was like yeah, and he's like, I want to
watch this, and he jumped in and was so excited
and laughing so hard. It was like, wow, first season
really speaks to Indy. He loves it and he's like,

(13:56):
I remember this one and he laughed at every joke,
and I was like, wow, I cannot get him to
watch the show now, Like he does not want to
watch boy Mean's World post season two. It's crazy. Uh,
but yeah, So it's really interesting that this just he
loved it. He loved Yulie. He just thought you were
the funniest thing in the world. And he's like, oh
remember this, he time travels, he like remembered everything, and

(14:16):
I was like yeah, but yeah, it's like it's so amazing, Like, yeah,
the show is. It's a very different show than what
we're watching in fifth.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But it's also, in all fairness to Indie not watching
later episodes back in the day, he would have grown
up with the show, which you don't do anymore because
you just binge everything that's out there.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
But also, I think you could jump into this show
never having seen a single episode of Boys World. You
could watch this episode and find it just as funny
as where we're at right now in season five. If
you don't know Corey in Depega's torture history or Sean,
you don't know what's going on last year, it really
doesn't work as it's so serialized compared to this with

(14:57):
season one was like just a classic sitcom. It's funny,
the story is so tight. It's yeah, it's great.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Yeah, well, I think I think it's a testament to
you guys and to the show and everybody that the
show so layered and took on a different life and
kept maintaining that audience and built on it. And how
cool to be a part of you know, because I
hear from folks all the time. I'm sure you do.
They feel like they grew up with you of that aspect. So, yeah,
it was cool.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, last time you were here, we basically sang your
praises for an hour straight. And in this episode we
are absolutely reminded why because Mincus is having a breakdown
because he has finally gotten something wrong at school.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, so what do you remember about this week? Lee?

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, so I remember that, you know, we always started
out with a table read. I'm sure you guys have
talked to me before we did anything. And I remember
going into the table read excited because I had a
good I felt like a good story. I remember Michael laughing,
everybody happy. Uh this big scene, you know where I
come in and have the breakdown. Well at table reads,
so that's always what you want, because you know, we

(16:08):
were trained to like listen for the laughs and then
we're like, yeah, maybe our part will stay in. Yes,
you were one of the peripheral characters, right, you weren't
Corey or whatever. So yeah, so that was all good.
And then I guess the next big event would have
been we would have had some rehearsal and then I
think producer run through.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I guess would have yeah, Monday.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Monday, and so I think that's where things started to
fall apart. We had the producer run through, and I
have that scene where I come in and have the
meltdown in the kitchen. In the kitchen, yeah, and I
did not hear Michael laughing, And instead what I heard
was a lot of scribbling of pencil on the stone.

(16:47):
Did I just figure you? And this moment.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
The pencil on the paper and the foot the.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Footshake, silence, and then the pencil on the paper.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's the worst combination.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
And no one else will laugh. If Michael's not laughing,
they all check with him, and if he's scribbling and
not laughing, none of the other writers would laugh.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
And that was so frustrated, Right, that's exactly right. It
was like I felt like I knew once he wasn't
going that that I was.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
No one else was going to write anywhere.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Else, so you know, so I sort of was like,
all right, we'll see how this goes. The rest of
the runthrough goes on, and then we have our note session,
and you know, I was talking to my mom about this.
Who I have to say last time I saw you.
My mom got to see you, and that was so exciting, exciting.
But I asked her, I was like, do you remember this?
And she's like, oh, yeah, I remember this was you know,
this was a tough week. And but she reminded me

(17:37):
as a good mom would. Do you know, I'd worked
with Michael for three years, two years prior to coming
on Boy Meets Rolled on the Torkal Sins, And she said,
you know, you never really had a negative note session
with him up until this point. And I appreciated that,
you know, and I think that's set the stage a
bit for why this sort of threw me. But he

(17:57):
really it was like a one one way note session
for god, I don't know, it was probably only twenty minutes,
but it felt like you know too, yeah, not for you, yep,
that's right. So but I had not really had that
experience with him, and so it really threw me. And
as a kid, you check your it checks your confidence

(18:20):
a little bit, and so, you know, just went into
the Okay, well, I've got to figure out how to
make this right. And so went home and just drilling
this over and over, working with my mom, trying to
find the beats, trying to understand what the notes were.
And I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Now, I was just going to say, yeah, I was
just going to say, do you remember if the performance
was that different during that first run through or not?

Speaker 7 (18:41):
I really don't will I don't know if that's like
a self protective mechanism, but yeah, but I don't remember.
I mean, I feel like at one point the script
either made a reference to or a note was given
to me somewhere about maybe it was like Minkus was
sort of drunk on you who the chalk Dream and

(19:01):
what ended up on the screen is not what I
would sort of envision is being drunk on you who.
That's not how I would really that. So I don't
know if it started out more that way and ended
up with kind of this manic episode or what. You know,
I don't really remember, but I just know that the
network run through was very stressful for me. And it

(19:21):
wasn't like someone was coming to me and saying, your
job's on the line, but I just felt a pressure
that I didn't always feel. And it's one of those
times where, now looking back as an adult, I realized like,
oh yeah, this was not always fun and games there Definitely,
this definitely was a job. There were high expectations, this
could be stressful at times. And so when you said,

(19:42):
you know, I got the applause break, that sort of
speaks to what I was feeling on tape night, which
was just so much nerves and emotions and I didn't
know if it was going to be what he wanted
or not. And I talked to other writers, and other
writers weren't really able to verbalize kind of what he
was going after. And so, you know, I did it,
and when the audience responded the way they did. I

(20:04):
felt just a wash of relief because I thought, even
if he doesn't like it, they liked it.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So that night, you know, so when I had my
I've talked about my first experience that was like that
in my first episode where I the note session was
just very much like, well, Danielle, everyone would have to
stay here forever if it was going to be about you.
But then for me the next day after run through,
then in that note session, he told me I had

(20:28):
accomplished the goal he had been after, Like there was
there was, at least only twenty four hours later a
confirmation that I had. I had come close to nailing
what he was looking for. You're saying you didn't really
get that even through tape night, you weren't sure if
you ever really addressed the notes that he wanted.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
No.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
I remember going into tape night and it feeling like
a lot of pressure in terms of will I will
I will I get what we're going after? And I
wanted to because I and I and listen, he's got
great instincts and great timing and all of that, so
it was important to me to do it right. But
you know, it worked out in the end, and I

(21:10):
will say, looking back, whether it was his notes or
my guts or the mixture of both, it turned into
something I'm really proud of.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
And oh, it's so good. It's so good. The whole
performance is just.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
I know, it was fun, but the episode as a
whole was great and I had so much fun watching
you guys and writer. Likewise, my son loved it. He
he loved my character, which made me happy. He loved Danielle.
I mean, well, I don't know if we're going to
go through scene by scene, but he loved you know,
your transformation where your ch channeling Giptien mathematician, and I
mean he loved it, and it was it was really

(21:46):
special to experience that with him.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, you know what I loved.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
There was so much weird, quirky but natural fun for
all of the young actors. Like the scene where you
guys were Will and Ben are zipping up the ball.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
In completely breaking.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But you guys are, and and all that energy you
have with that where you run back to the table,
the quirkiness of Tapanga channeling the ancient you know, Egyptian
mathematician and the turning around and the growling and you know,
obviously all the incredible stuff Lee gets to do, like
to see that many kids have that much fun in

(22:30):
an in a twenty two minute show is really enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
We were all also very much our characters, like everybody
on the show.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
The parents were perfectly the parents. Feeni was perfectly FIENI,
Mincus was perfectly Minkus. Sean was perfectly Sean.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Like everybody's character was there, and you could really delineate
finally between Okay, eric is actually has things to do
and is more that more than just kind of girl
crazy and Tapanga is the street. I mean, everybody had
a clear character and it show.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
It really showed.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Very It's the note that I took, you know, because
I'm still comparing it to like what we're watching now
in season five or entering season six, is that the
show feels softer now like back then it had more edges,
the characters are much more sharper, And I was trying
to like figure out what because it's it's it's in
the writing, it's in the performances. You know, in some
ways it's more elevated, it's more kind of sitcomy and

(23:25):
in some ways less realistic. Maybe, But what I realized
was like, oh, you know what's happening is that there
there are bits and scenes that describe the characters as
opposed to characters creating bits. Does that make sense? It
was like it was like we were defining our characters
by seeing them go through things, and so they were

(23:45):
writing to like what would be so funny is if
this kid is so freaked out about getting a bad
grade that he's like a drunk, you know whatever, a wreck,
and that that describes minkus like letting that as opposed
to like, I feel like where Boy Meets World got
to was like just a much sort of softer, like
sort of like we know who these characters are, so

(24:07):
we would like fall into bits they if they happen
at all. But this is like just let's present these
We know who these people are because of the crazy
situations that they're in or the funny lines that they're saying,
and that's just a different angles. It's so much easier
for like a kid to get into this. It's just
immediately funny, it's immediately witty, it's it's really sharp.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, I agree with all of you.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
I thought too, Like in that first classroom scene where
all we're all four of us younger kids are in
the scene. That dynamic too, I mean, we were looking
for the right dynamic. I remember as a show because
you remember the third chair that they kept trying to
fill right with another friend, and it seemed like by
that point, writer, You've just done such a great job
of filling that role that it was like they abandoned

(24:52):
finally trying to make that work and just let you
carry that weight, which you did so well. And then Danielle,
it's like the energy you brought I thought was really
great for Mincas too, because it went from being this
sort of two on one dynamic with Corey and Sean
and Nikis where he sort of felt like the outsider,
to oh, here's this other character who's not just like

(25:12):
everybody else necessarily, and you know they're all they all
have these individual personalities and like you, it was just
engaging and fun and my little guy loved it and
I did too, So so cool.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I love the idea that for Minkas there was an
intellectual rival, but it's with a person who's not trying
to at this point, not trying.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
To compete with you.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's just somebody who is in a competition with you
because we are both on the same grounds intellectually and
seeing you like I am not used to this like that,
it's such a great dynamic. And just so you know,
your name has come up a lot recently, because we
recently had a discussion about whether or not we finished

(25:54):
season five and we saw the graduation episode where Sepanga
is trying to decide she's going to go to Yale
and she proposes to Corey, and it has come up
a lot. We did a we did an episode where
we had some fans leave us voice memos about whether
or not they thought Tapega should go to Yale, and
someone wrote in with a very uh, very take, very

(26:15):
astute take, which is, let's be real here, we're talking
about the wrong thing. Let's talk about the fact that
Tapega would have never gotten into Yale. She's been in
all regular classes with Corey and Sean, and meanwhile, Mincus
has been on the other side of the school apparently
where the VP classes have been. And they may have

(26:37):
the same amount of a's, but mincuses are weighted a's.
He would have had the real GPA. He would have
been the one to get into Yale. So let's talk
about the fact that Tapega shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Even been exactly she Gotga got into Yale Tech, which
is a different school.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Is a smaller university.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Underestimated boy meets old fan for sure. No, that's amazing.
I love I'm so glad you did graduation. That was
a fun one. That was that was fun to come
back and pop back in that way.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, we talked about how amazing it was too that
there was that moment when after you get your diploma
and you walk back on the stage and there's kind
of like this.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Moment where you're like, am I am I one of you?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And we get to bring you in for a big
bear hug ye and David and Wesley were in the
in the on the scene.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
With us as as professors. So cool. Yeah, So do
you remember this week we.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Talked You talked a lot about getting those notes for Michael.
Do you remember then working with David trainor a lot.
Did David then work with you on what he thought
Michael's notes were?

Speaker 7 (27:42):
You know, that's a great question. I love David. We
had a great working relationship. He was a great director.
I felt like David always understood that he was there
to try to help us, and I think, you know,
I'm sure he tried to help me stay positive. Yeah,
but I think he and I both knew that ultimately
the direction was going to come from Michael, you know.

(28:05):
So that's what I remember about that. One other thing
that my mom mentioned, which I was glad she remembered
because I didn't, was She said that after everything I
think had gone well on tape night or at some
point during the run of this, after the note session
that was tough, Bill Daniels came to me and gave
me some encouragement. And you know, Bill is just was

(28:30):
the consummate professional, but he's not I wouldn't have said
he was always the most fuzziest and I wasn't in
a negative way at all, extremely professional and respectful, but
I know that for him to come and say something
to me would have meant a lot. My mom remembered
that especially, so Yeah, so that was very cool to him.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's why those moments with him were so special because
they were so rare, and you're right, he was. He
was a wonderful guy and always ago you know, he
was never mean any of that out but to actually
put an arm around you and give you an adda boy.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
That meant so much because it just didn't happen a
whole lot.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, it's so crazy, how you know, like
you said, that wasn't normal for Bill, so you'd think
there'd be no chance you would have forgotten it. But
the protective mechanism that whatever went into you from that week,
there was so much pressure you felt.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Well at an age, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
True, that's true.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
We've got thirty years to forget it, but it is
true that, like when you know, what really stands out
for you was the feeling of whether it came from
external sources or even just that internal desire to appease
that we had as kids.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
That's what That's what weighed so heavy.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
In your mind, is whether or not you were going
to do it, whether or not you were capable.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, Well the tag is one of the craziest of
our entire series, especially with the special effects and no
laugh track. What are your memories of this tag where
you were gonna disappear multiple times.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
When it popped up, I'd honestly forgotten about it, and
oh yeah, I think this is and I again was
watching with my son. So when I disappeared, he was like, wait,
did you really disappear? Like so he's like, how did
you do that? So that was pretty cool. No, I
just remember, first of all, I had a lot of questions.
I was like, did I write all that? Because it
sort of looks like my handwriting, but I couldn't reach

(30:36):
that high there's yours and he's like jumping out.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I know, it's so cute.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
There's no way I wrote all of that, and so
thank you to our fantastic crew that I'm on.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
But yeah, no, it was probably Mark Pobson.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Yeah, thank you Mark. Yeah, it was really fun. I
I you know, this whole thing for me again, just
like looking back on it and to kind of build
on what you were saying, Danielle, Like, I felt really
lucky at this point, especially when things were sort of solidifying,
to be a part of an ensemble show. Those are

(31:11):
the kinds of shows that I grew up loving and watching,
like a lot of the TGIF shows, you know. But
I just felt so great. It was fun for me
to do my little part and and like have a
place in it, and for you all you're you know
and will like watching you and this show. You had
so many one liners that that I just loved, and
everybody was doing their thing and I just loved that

(31:32):
kind of synergy and being a part of that. And
I remember, you know, as much as there are memories
that are not so fun to think about, there's also
that which is really really cool to look to ick
and feel like I got to be a part of
that for a while.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
So yeah, so much fun.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I need to shout at one moment because as much
as I loved you coming in and almost seeming like
you were drunk on you who and that thing was hysterical,
just getting up and walking out of the classroom in
the beginning and just as you're wiping by camera, where
are you going.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Nurse, were just oh god, it was not It was just.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Perfectly timed and your face is ashen as you're walking by.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
It was just such a wonderful comedy moment. And I
and again shout out to our our great crew because
in the mannic scene that the hair and wordrobe so
much of the.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Work shaking like you're detoxing. It was well that I remember.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
I remember like I was looking at it and I
could see the individual hairs like shaking as I was
grabbing party, and I remember like my like my neck
tensing up, and my neck had been the size of
a like golf club, you know, so funny, it was
just it.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Was it was Do you remember doing the like the
war like? Do you remember them messing up your wardrobe?
Did you have to do a hair a hair test
for it?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Do you remember any of that?

Speaker 7 (32:51):
You don't remember a test, But I just I I
remember leaning into it and I felt I gotta go
for it, go, you know, go broke or go home.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
And it was just this the drunk you who? Because
I remember a drunk on you who thing too? Was it? Ye?
It was it in the original script and they cut
it out?

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Or was that just I have to I'm sure I've
got the old scripts. I'd have to go back and look,
but I don't know. I don't I don't remember another
instance this season where anything like that happened. So whether
that was in there and they took it out, or
whether that was a note that was delivered, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I'd just like to point out to my two best friend.
I know that Lee just said that he probably has
the scripts. You didn't give many for that, But I say,
I've got the scripts and that's all I hear.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
It's all you don't throw anything away, you don't throw it.
So just I'm with you, Lee, I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Hey. You know, someday they'll they'll they'll be worth something.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I don't, yeah, exactly, so they are.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I know.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Had I thought about it at all in the sense
of like what will mean something to me in thirty years,
I would probably still have mine too. Yeah, But at
the time I just didn't want the stuff. But it's
true that I wish I wish I had more. Was
there anything that you cringed about when you watched? Was
there anything that you thought like, ooh, I don't like that,
or I wish I did that differently?

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Sure, Yeah, I mean I think that's human nature, especially
as a performer, to look with a critical eye. But
you know, also to remind myself I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
But yes, I.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
Think in the first scene where I go in the classroom,
where I go and I explain the math problem to Corey,
I just noticed there was a lot of hands going.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
On, finger wagging.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
A lot of that.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Happening is the He's always pointed, have you ever guys
never noticed that no, watch Harrison Ford every the Ford finger,
that's the fore finger. Harrison Ford finger always comes out.
So you could.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Call me good.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I feel less, yeah, less crazy. You know, there's stuff
like that. But you have to look back and remind
yourself that you're a kid. I mean, you guys, I
don't know how you do it. Week after week. I
would be very self conscious looking back and analyzing everything,
and I think you just have to remember, like, this
is not look in the grand scheme of the world.
It's not like these jobs are hard, but it's easy

(35:07):
to be difficult on yourself, and you know, it's it's
easy to pick it apart.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
But yes, for sure. So you watch the show with
your son.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Do you see any of your son in little twelve
year oldly?

Speaker 7 (35:22):
Oh my god, you guys, it's you know, what's so
funny is one day in his room, you know, I
don't know, my wife and I were getting ready for
bedtime or something, and he was looking at his books.
We always do story time at night. And this was
before he'd seen Boy Meets World. But I can't even
tell you what he was saying. But eventually I just

(35:44):
heard him at you know, out of the corner of
my ear, say, according to my calculations, and.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I was just, oh, man.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
I don't know if I ever said that as Minkus,
but it's but it's.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Such a Megus line.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Yes, and his little voice sound, you know, a lot
like mine, and then so cute. Just one of those
moments where I frozen was like according to my calculations,
I was like, oh my god, Oh my god, oh
my god. Yeah, so I see a lot of him,
I mean. And and it was interesting too, because you know,

(36:17):
he was pointing out he's sick, so he's still a
little young that he didn't get everything that was acture
in the show. In fact, it either yeah, you know, well,
like something would happen that he didn't understand and he'd go.
My wife and I were just dying laughing because he
just kept happening.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
But he did.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
He did understand a lot of it, and and and
and laughed at a lot of the jokes and and
the Morgan stuff. He really related.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, again, that's an.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
Easy character to take for granted, but when you see
a kid seeing that.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
We thought the same thing when we watched the first
time around that it was just we were kind of like, wow,
Lily's there, and oh she's part of the show, and
then you forget that there were kids that she was
their favorite character. I mean that's who they were so so.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
But he what was interesting is some some things would
happen and he would say, oh, data, that's not kind, right,
like somebody, you know, because there's that at six you're
trying to eat yea happening, you know, you know, and
so we're trying to teach him about kindness, and so
I would say, yep, you're you're you're right.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's not kind, not.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Kind, but you know, but also kind of funny and that's.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Okay if you get the laughs on.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
You don't always need to be kind.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
How crazy is it like to go back for us,
like to see Corey is a completely different character. Yeah,
Cory is this like kind of conniving like and it's
that met me out of trouble, quick talking and like
there's none of that like nervous insecurity. It's like he
has kid insecurity, but he doesn't have the like anxiety

(37:55):
that like has become the hallmark of Corey now Like
back then he was like anti anxiety. He was much
more like eh nah, mister feenie you don't know crap.
You know, he's like this and it's a very it's great.
It's a cool character. It's so interesting to see that
that's gone, like that is not the Cory anymore. And
when did that happen? Second season? Do was it right after?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
For like?

Speaker 4 (38:18):
But it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
And we've talked about how they tried to have the
best of both worlds with Corey, where sometimes the universe
is always going to work out to what he wants,
but then in other times he'll say things like, well
it because it's my luck. It's going to go to
because it's my luck, and it's like, well, what do
you mean? Usually you're saying the universe works out for you?
But that's season one Corey. Where season one Corey goes, ah,

(38:40):
I did this wrong, right because that's my luck. So
somewhere along the way he changed, but also occasionally remembers that, yeah, yeah,
it is. It is really interesting, Lee, do.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
You remember the actual equation for time travel? Because that
would be worth something.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
It'd be good to know.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
What's so funny is you know I did I did
well in school, but math was by far my worst subject.
So the fact when I saw me standing in front
of all those calculations, I was like, oh, this is
definitely make believe because oh.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, well there's one the one thing you draw is
clearly not a math.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Symbol like this scribble or even I'm like, okay, that's
just a thing that's not a math symbol, that's doodle.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
I was much more the visual learner, you know. The
the Malibu Barbie car and the dolls was much more
my excuse.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
So we did talk about this way back when, and
I think I had done just a very minor amount
of research to figure out if there is actually an
answer to this problem. And I did find one. So
I don't know if you guys are interested, but there
is an answer. So it says in six minutes a'll
wash is one car assuming a constant rate of washing

(39:53):
in T minutes.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
So we're just going to use a letter T. A'll
washes T exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I'm lost, that's my mom. Then you're adding letters into math.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
I'm out exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So they turn it into a fraction T over six,
So in six in T minutes, al washes T over
six of the car, so T sixs of the car.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Similarly, in T minutes.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Fred washes t over eight of the car, because Al
washes in eight minutes, or Al washes in six Fred
washes in eight. If T is the time it takes
the two of them, capital T is the time it
takes the two of them to wash one car. In
that time, Al has washed t over six of the
car and Fred has washed washed t over eight of
the car. Since they washed one car, capital T over

(40:41):
eight plus capital t over six equals.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
One seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
The answer equals out to three point four two nine,
which means it takes both of them about three minutes
and twenty six seconds to wash the car.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Which is basically what Minkus says.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
He says, he says four and a half right, and
he and the way he did his math is that
he figured if one is in six minutes and one
is in eight minutes, that's twenty five percent faster. So
let's just remove twenty five percent off of the total
time it took Al.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
But that's not the that's not the equation.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
So it is just interesting that in the show they
chose to say the whole point is there really isn't
a right answer, But math wise, I guess there really was.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, there really was math.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
The other guy is also sleeping with Al's wife, which
makes the whole thing different.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
It didn't even bring that into the I mean, there's
a lot of math in there.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
But my favorite part of it was that this answer
came from Henry Smith and it was on Quora. And
then at the end of it, it says, by the way,
am I the only one who remembers where this comes from?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
And it has?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
So whoever initially asked the question? This person who answered
said I know where this comes from, and they gave
credit to Boy Meets World and Lee.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Can I ask, what what is the mathematical the I
guess it would be the word for tea?

Speaker 5 (42:07):
What is T? Do we know what that is?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Time?

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Is that what it is? So tea is timing time? Okay?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah? In T minutes time? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Sure, okay, all right.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Just like we couldn't get the basketball goals, we can't
do that. This is why we're.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
After This is why we host a podcast.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Calculia is a real thing, people, It's a real thing.
I'm telling you. Yikes.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
Can I also say to you just justice for Amy
and Betsy like she was so criminally under used. So
another reason why I love this episode was the fact
that she got to you know, it is at least
center on her.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Have a character, have emotions, give a lesson, like one
of the few times she gets to teach Corey something.
This does not happen after this, like ever, is it
not really? I mean, if anything, she's well, I guess
she's she's she has lessons in terms of Topanga Kory relationship,
like she involves herself in that. But even then she's
antagonistic in a way like this is just so nice

(43:00):
to see her as like a voice of reason and
maturity and you know, it's it's really yeah, it's so nice.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It's also the thing that's amazing, though, is this episode
you picked Lee was chalk full of inside jokes and
one liners that we still say bricks, yeah, bricks on
Oak Street, la bougie, I mean all the kind of
there was like four or five different things that every
time I was like, oh my god, these are all.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
From the same episode. Yeah, that brick split level on
Oak Street.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think it's a pretty classic episode.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
It is.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
It is solid season one episode.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
We haven't spoken to you since we lost David Combs,
an instrumental person in Our Boy meets World Lives.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Did you have any memories or thoughts you'd like to
share about David?

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Sure? No, I love David. He was such an interesting
guy and haird for us so much. This is really fitting. Actually,
you know, I debated whether I'd actually mentioned this or not,
but after the note session in this episode, I think

(44:17):
it was told to me later that he actually David
actually I think how to talk with the producers and
said we need to be thoughtful about these note sessions.
And you know, I think it was I mean from
just a place of let you know, I don't I
don't think there was any malicious intent at all from
Michael or anything. I think we were all just working
really hard to make.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
A great show.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
But you know that is.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
David's role was sort of David's role to not only
be a teacher, but to be an advocate for us.
And so this is an episode where he actually spoke
up and I think said something and kind of helped
us all. Remember you know our kids at the end
of the day, right, what a great estimate to him,
And gosh, I was crushed to hear that we and
I didn't get to know him for nearly as long

(45:03):
as you all did, but he was. He held a
special place for me and always will. So thanks David.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, yes, yeah, we think about him so much, especially
like you said, with these episodes and memories we have
then behind the scenes with him. And you're right, the
role of the set teacher is not just to give
an education, it's also to be an advocate. And it
was also, as we've talked about, it was very hard
and felt out of place for our parents to be

(45:32):
a person to say, can I talk to you about
the note session today? Like, yeah, none of our parents
would have done that. It wouldn't have been cool, it
wouldn't have been well received. It would have been it
would have been thought of as being like a problem,
but it wasn't from David.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
And so for David to say.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
And I'm sorry to interrupt, but I worked with a
lot of studio teachers who were wonderful, but not all
the studio teachers would have done that either. I mean
a lot of people would have been worried about their
jobs or the.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, now, David had no problem speaking truth to power.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
That was that was very yep.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Not letting the production go five minutes over, No, no,
you get grace and he would be standing on set
waiting for No. Nine and a half hours. Yeah, kids, they're
out of here.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
He's like, this is my job and I take it
very very seriously. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
We all worked with studio teachers that were not good. Yeah,
and that was not David. Yeah or Wesley. They're both
phenomenal at what they did. So yeah, think they were.
They were in the graduation, did you say that.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yes, Yeah, they're in the cap and gown.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
When I'm singing, i lay across all the studio teachers
as I'm singing to Feenie, so they're all like staring
at me.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
It was it was really cool to bring them in
for the graduation.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
It was really great. Oh I love that.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, it was very cool.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Well, and to sort of continue on with that too
with David. This is just coming to me as we're
talking about that. But you know, that is something that
I really wanted to do. When they asked me to
come back to do the graduation, I'm I'm ninety percent
sure they did not fly me out from North Carolina.
It what do that?

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You flew myself?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Really, if you want to come back to Boy Meets World,
there's a chance.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
I'm wrong. I've been wrong before. My wife will tell you.
But I feel pretty I don't know why. I just
have this memory of I had. I feel like I
had to fly myself out there, and I think they
put us off or you know, but it was really
important to me. I well, A I was, I was,
you know, I thought it was really nice that they
asked me to come back, but I wanted to do it.

(47:29):
I felt like I needed that sort of sense of
closure in a way because I'd never really gotten it
yes the first go round, and I wanted to see
you guys. And I also felt like for people that
watched the show, you know, I still had people that
came up to me and remembered the character. So I thought, well,
maybe this will be nice too. If yeah, I set
off for him, and I didn't know if the show
would was ending or what, you know at that point.

(47:52):
And I remember too coming back and David saying to me,
you know we he basically told me again in a
kind way like that. There was a moment of kind
of mourning that I didn't continue on, and that was
really appreciated too, because I didn't know that, you know,
I mean, i'd been I'd been a part of other
shows where people had left and you as an actor

(48:13):
just have to pick up and move on.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Yeah, people who were on the remaining on the show.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
You can't dwell and you don't always know what the
reasons are or what happens. And so to come back
and have him say that was something that I needed
to hear and was very nice again speaking to him,
and also just nice in the long long run to
have men.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
It was always strange how we were spoken to, because
it was like the higher ups a lot of times
would have no problems telling us what we were doing
wrong or how maybe it didn't go well or how
we had to change this. But we were never talked
to as adults when it came to ideas for our
stories for the show or characters that weren't brought back.
We've talked about how we didn't know you weren't coming back.
We didn't know Tony Quinn wasn't coming back. We didn't
know that Lily nick Say was going to be replaced.

(48:55):
I mean, we weren't never told any of that.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
So it was hunger games man Like I remember just
being like, oh, wow, maybe Lee's not coming back, but
at least I'm still here.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
He's always always feeling like, oh, you know when I
didn't get fired by episode four, because kids were getting fired.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
Kids were getting fired constantly. When you talk about this
note session, that was a very real thing. Like, you know,
I think if anything, we probably felt threatened by you
because you would work with Michael before you were. Also
he had more security as far as like I was concerned,
you know, because it was like, well, Michael likes Lee,
and you know, Lee's always going to be here.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
And then it's like next season, dodge that bullet. I
didn't get fired and Lily's gone, and you know whatever.
It was like, and we just felt wrateful and like, yeah,
it was Lord and Fly. It was totally just like
I'm still here and like in retrospect, God, that's kind
of messed up, Like I don't know.

Speaker 8 (49:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:49):
Well, and my wife pointed out very astutey also that
really what was going on in this episode was a
parallel of what I was going through as an actor.
I mean it was like the first time that I'd
sort of gotten it really wrong right in the teacher's eyes,
you know, and was like thrown for a loop and
basically almost exactly what he was going. I know.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
It's like when we saw you last it was in
your hometown of North Carolina. You came out to our
live show and the place absolutely erupted, and then we
got to see you at nineties Con. Have you felt
the love from the Boy Meets World fan base in
this era of nostalgia?

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Oh, my god, of course it's incredible. I mean, you know,
it's it's that truly, you know, we we look at
some of these things, right, we talk about like the
negative aspects, but but what what an adventure and a
ride love that we're We're really, i think fortunate to
be a part of a show that that that people
feel genuine love for and that they want to you know,

(50:51):
that they want to come up and say something, or
that they'll listen to a podcaster, come out to a
live show and during North Carolina. You know, it's yeah,
it's amazing. So I'm grateful, absolutely, It's it's a good feeling.
It makes me feel like at the end of the day,
you know, obviously this was a dream something I always
wanted to do. It was like I was doing this

(51:13):
for any noble reasons, but to have had some kind
of effect on people as a great feeling totally and
I love it, Yes, and I feel very lucky. And
you guys are very kind to invite me to your show.
And I guess I jumped a gun earlier when I
mentioned it, But my that was so special. You know,
my mom hadn't seen you guys in over twenty years,
and she was really with me every day on the set,
So yeah, it was just such a cool moment for

(51:36):
me to see that and for her to get to
see you guys, and yeah, it's it was touching, It
was fun.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It was so great to see your parents and always
always so much fun to see you. I hope we
get to see you again, whether it's at another nineties
con or I don't know. You know, we've kind of
paused our live shows, but we we adore you. You
know how we feel about you. Every time we see you,
it's a joy, and we keep coming up with formats
still going into season six, just to talk.

Speaker 7 (52:05):
To you, you guys, you know chance we have. Yeah, Well,
thank you thank you for having me. Love to all
of your families.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Thank you so much for being with us.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Lee, We love you.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Yeah, thank you too. Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I love that he got to watch it with his son.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Oh god, it's so fun.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Yeah, it's a new era because I mean, yeah, so
when we started the podcast in.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
He was seven, right, and he was ten now yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Yeah, I'm so curious if India is because now his
friends are watching it, watching and I think it's really
around one. Yeah, it's like nine through eleven that the
kids really I think start.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
And it's on free Form now too.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I think I heard somebody last night between like midnight
and two am or something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well, and he's not watching it, then.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
He might be that kid's got a rich social life.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Wow, Yeah, I told you that.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
The one time Adler said he wanted to watch it,
we had turned on Disney Plus and it had been
we had just watched it for the for the rewatch
and so it was like on the main screen and
he was like, what's that. I said, Oh, it's a
show called Boy Meets Rolled. He was like, let's watch it,
and I said okay, and I put it on. I
put it on Corey's Alternative Friends and I got to
the scene where you see me and I was like,

(53:23):
that's mommy is a little girl. And he's like, uh,
he's watching it for a little bit and he's like,
all right, this is boring.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I want to watch something else. But he was only
like three at the time.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I'm like, I got I can't wait till I'm not
gonna not gonna test it again. I want to wait
till he's a little older and then and then.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
See when he likes it. I can't I can't wait
for that moment.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
So, uh, season one again. I think at the end
of the day, season one and season four it's a
toss up for which one was was better. You could
also argue they are two phenomenal seasons from two different
television programs.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
I think so yeah, I mean exactly, you know, so yeah?
Who knows? But great? Great.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Thank you all for listening to this episode of Podmeets World.
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