August 12, 2024 • 52 mins
The TGIF Multiverse expands when Candace Cameron Bure makes the leap from Full House to Boy Meets World! Candace is joining the gang and ready to talk about the most surprising role of her career: Ushkar, the Queen of Malevolence and daughter of Evil!
We hear the true story of the “rivalry” between TGIF shows and find out if Candace would still audition for a role that has her answering to Satan.
Plus, they compare experiences on “very special episodes,” handle weight issues as famous teens and dissect the deep voice of possession - on a major crossover event for Pod Meets World!
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Do you remember getting into a car accident with me?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, no yet, I was so I must have just
been sixteen and you couldn't drive yet. And we went
to the one on one coffee shop. Yes, a coffee right,
I love that place. And we were pulling out and
I stopped at a stop sign and for some reason
backed up and backed into a woman in her car.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you remember this.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Now that you're saying it. I vaguely remember the backing
up crunch.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh my god. It was the first time I'd ever
been in an accident. I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was terrified.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But what was so funny about is then you and
I get out and this woman could not have been meaner.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
She was so upset. She's like, are you even can
you even drive? Because we were kids, we.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Were so young, exactly is this your parents car?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And I remember you? And I got so like whoa lady?
And she was like she was convinced that, you know,
because I just heard her car, and that I was
never going to pay it, that I didn't have insurance,
and I was sneaking off and I was like in
the middle of the day, and I just remember her
being this like crazy, frantic upset lady, which in retrospect kind.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You see two like babies get out of the car
that just backed into you, and it's like it was
an expensive car, it was an suv, it was my
Pathfinder brand new. Oh yeah, but I just remember you
and I being so self righteous, you know, because I
gave her the insurance information.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But I remember assuring her.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I was like, it's my car, I have my own money,
I do this, and she was so uninged, and I
just remember you and I being like.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I wonder why you backed up at the stop sign.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We maybe maybe yeah, or maybe you were too far
too far out, I know what I mean, Like maybe
you felt like you were too far out.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So oh but I just yeah, I get you know,
And like this has happened to me a couple of times,
Like now we have backup cameras, but like it happened
to be a couple of times where I would back
into something because I just wouldn't look.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, what an idiot.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh yeah, that wasn't sure if you remembered that. I
had that like memory come back to me and I
was like, yeah, Danielle was in the front seat, and
like we were both.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just so like couldn't believe this woman. I can look
back and like, how dare she not respect me?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Dare she assume we're in our parents' car. We are
clearly in our mid teens. We are clear in the
middle of a dish.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
We should have been in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Exactly what she was probably like, these kids are ditching school,
which absolutely the right thing to She's like, do I
have to call the cops on you?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Where's a truancy officers? Officer?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is ridiculous. You just backed into me, and I'm
like it'll probably just like calmed down.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Lady, lady, guys, just a material object.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Don't stress. I used to call everybody's stress puppies.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's why, remember such a your mom's such a stress.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Puppy, just being like she's a total chiz rat right now,
she's all chizen out.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This has nothing to do with the accident, but I
wanted to know if you recognize the shirt I'm wearing,
it's the north Western San Diego shirt. Yeah, so anyway,
this was made that for us, right, Yes, it was
given to us at a at a meet and greet
after one of our Podmets World live shows based on
the school that Eric Matthews wants to go to the
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north Southwestern state. And they made the shirts and they're
so cute they look like they could actually be our merch.
So you know, our our fans are not chiz rats. No,
not or stress puppies or stress puppies. Where'd you get
chiz rat?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, when you're crusting, crusting with some cluckers coffee
cats and sebastopol on coffee all, you know, you become
like a total cheers rat, like these words coming.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Down of you know this, I want more of this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is Sebhole speak from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
This is the most teen writer.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I feel like I've just been transported into and I'm like,
oh man, that's pretty great, Sebhole. Wow, thank you for
thank you for taking me back.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Writer.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
We had so many good times, a lot of rain.
I remember being with you in the rain a lot.
We liked the rain, I know, we love the rain.
We loved County Crows and so we used to sit
and remember there was you had like a big rock,
like a landscaping rock in your yard and Encino and
we would like hang out on the rock, a little
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bit of nature.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Hey man, you know, get away from the city, rain
my rock.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This big landscaping rock.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh my god, get away from the stress, puppies.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Let's just crust on this rock and think. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Welcome to Pond meets World.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and we are
missing our dear wil Fredell today. As you could imagine,
every now and then, things come up for us in
our personal lives that have to take priority over doing
the podcast, and when we've already got things scheduled, it's
too hard to necessarily cancel them and pick a different date.
(05:31):
So we have chosen to do the show without Will today.
He is going to be sorely missed, but he will
be back. Everything's cool and good, but there was just
something he needed to take care of. So we will
welcome him back with wide open arms for our next episode.
And today we are very excited to interview someone.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
DJ Tanner is a.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Character name that sits among the most elite sitcom roles
of the nineties. Thanks to our guest this week, an
actor who we can only imagine was compelled by a
to appear with us in a nineteen ninety seven Halloween
Bottle episode that ended with Ben and I most likely
dying in an airplane crash. She played Millie slash Ushkar,
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Queen of Malevolence, daughter of Evil, the love interest of
the newly cast Jack for season five, causing a serious
rift with his roommate Eric because she might just be
a witch. It became one of the most memorable cameos
Boy Meets World ever had, and around the same time
as the Craft was released in theaters, we had our
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own version time exactly, we got our own version of
a cute witch chic. But more importantly, she spent eight
seasons on Full House one hundred and ninety two episodes,
a show that cracked the top ten twice and was
only out of the top thirty shows on TV in
its first season. Twenty four point three million viewers tuned
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into its hour long series finale, and it was a
show that was still in the top twenty five when
it was taken off the air, which means it shouldn't
have been a surprise when they all returned for a
sequel Netflix show that ran for five more seasons. She
has since built an empire working with Hallmark and now
Great American Media. Her Christmas movies have become as much
of a tradition for the holiday as candy canes, and
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now as former criminologist turns Craft's artisan Ainsley McGregor, she
continues her journey of grabbing the torch from Angela Lansbury
and then solving a mystery with it. She's taken on
a power position in Hollywood, producing everything she now stars
in and a ton of other projects, like the recent
movie Unsung Hero. This week on Pod Meets World, we
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are talking to someone I am regularly mistaken for. It's
nineties Royalty, Candice Cameron Beret.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
That's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I never knew that you guys got confused in pupil's minds.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It happened a lot when I was a teenager, when
she and I were both teens. It would be like
are you And I would start to answer and they'd
be like.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
From full House, he Hi.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was just saying, how I still to this day
get mistaken for.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You and I get mistaken for you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It recently happened for me at a valet I had,
I had handed over my car keys. I went into
this event, I came out, I went to get my car,
and he was like a teenager and he said, excuse me,
this might be a weird question, but are you And
then just trailed off and I said to Panga from
(08:27):
Boy Meets World and he said, no, I was going
to say. I was going to say, And then he said,
one of your kids' names their mom And he said,
because I did Natasha I did, wasn't Natasha?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I did hockey? I did hockey hockey with him?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was like, that's an interesting way because it wasn't
even that you. So you mistook me for somebody who
used to see it like hockey practice.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, but it's just like that show that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Was on a teen show in the nineties, right, Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It was so say the same thing all the time,
but it's like are you, and I wait for it because.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Sometimes they go to paying us. That's funny.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Thank you so much for joining us. We've been really
looking forward to talking to you. And I have to
assume you don't do a ton of interviews where you
get to talk about playing a witch who has taken
control of the soul of a teenage boy.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Huh No, not too many interviews on that I'm looking back,
I'm laughing pretty hard in retrospect.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yes, well, I'll get to a question about that later.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But I know we asked you to watch the episode
kind of as a catalyst to remember this fever dream
of a script. Did you remember a lot about the
Witches of Penbrook or like us, did you feel like
it was watching a totally different person on screen?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Totally different.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'm glad I watched it because I.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Don't think i'd seen it since we did it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, And first off was like, oh my gosh, the
bleach blonde hair, the cut, like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It was just so nineties. It was kind of incredible
and that was fun.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But then watching the episode, I was like, oh, yeah,
I remember playing playing a witch. And then I'm like, oh,
this is like a little bit spookier and darker than
I remember. And I'm like, huh wait, I said that
we did that, and I was like there was a
lot of making out too.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh yeah, a lot of making out. Which the first
thing I wanted to ask you is what was going on?
Were you had just finished your first iconic run of
Full House as DJ Tanner just two years earlier in
ninety five, So what was going on in your life
in nineteen ninety seven when you came and joined us.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Oh my goodness, So I had just gotten married this way.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Which is crazy.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, because I got married in nineteen ninety six. I
met my husband at eighteen. Then I was going to say,
you were very young, right, That's what I remember about you.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Being on set.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It was like, Wow, she's she's only a couple years
older than us, but she's like married and has this
whole like grown up life that I remember being like.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Why what is that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like, I know it was.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was I don't even know what was going on
in my life except for that, like because we lived
in LA at.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The time, or had you left LA for some reason?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
He was so I still had always had my home
in LA, but my husband was playing for the Montreal Canadians, right,
so I was living there half the year throughout the
season and then I would come back. So yeah, so
I might not have been in LA like at that time,
depending on when we filmed it, but that was what
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was going.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
On in my life.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
It was just like marriage, and I was still trying
to work here and there, and then that kind of all,
you know, left. I just put that to rest for
a while, because then a few years later I had
or a year after that, I had Natasha Wool.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So you were visiting us like a few months to
a year after you got married and about a year
before you had your head, before you had Natasha.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeh oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
See interesting transition period.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, and you had a long, extensive list of impressive
shows that you had guest starred on already. You did
Punky Brewster to Saint Elsewhere, Who's the Boss. Did you
enjoy the process of being a week long guest star
in comparison to what you spent eight years doing like
the star of Full House.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I liked it. It was fun.
Sick calling world is I really like it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I don't know about you, guys, but that is my
favorite place to be. So even with all the movies,
all the television movies I do, the mysteries and the
Christmas movies and all of that, my home is in
multi cam soundstage land.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
So being a guest star, it's always a little bit
intimidating when you're walking on someone's set. And I remember,
for with you guys, you guys were awesome. I already
kind of knew you, like, especially you Danielle, so I
felt comfortable. But I'd finished Full House a year, I
guess a year or two before that, So then I
was really nervous walking on that set, even though you
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guys made it great. But I remember being in the
audience or the live show, and we taped that and
had the audience and that's something I'm so used to.
But it was like my heart was pounding that very
first scene. I got so nervous, and then it was like, Okay,
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
How to do this. I couldn't do this.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But and once we got through that first scene, I
was like, Okay, it's like riding a bike. But yeah,
it's always a little different to come on to someone
else's stage because you respect everyone and you want to
do a great job.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You want to show up and.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
You know, and then you just hope that everyone's as
nice and loving and fun as you hope they will be.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yes, I know that feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We've talked about it many times, that like you're walking
into someone else's family, the same way you guys were
such a family on Full House.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know, we've now been on the air for five years.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We've got that same family, and you're like, hey, guys,
just yeah, So I'm glad that it made it a
good experience for you. And then what do you remember,
if anything, about playing Millie aka Bushcar, Queen.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Of Malevolence, daughter of evil?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What a bizarre laughter? What is going on? I know,
it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I remember when they asked me if I would feel
comfortable and they asked me to do that part, and
they were like, how do you feel about playing a witch?
And I was like, well, I'm an actress, like totally fine,
and I'm this is fun.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's sitcom, it's great comedy. I'm good with that, and
so I yeah, came in just feeling really fun.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
But now watching the episode, like ah, I.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Said that, I mean, at the very least, I wonder
if it sounded fun to play a character that was
so against type for you totally, and it was fun.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I remember feeling that it was fun. I'm like, no
one would expect this from me, and it's still felt
like a very safe place to do that because of wait,
the show was all about in itself and it's it's
a family show, so I felt comfortable.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
In that way. But but it was a little weird.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I mean, I remember saying some of those lines now
having watched and I'm like, ah, this, this doesn't totally
feel good, saying like I'm the Queen of Darkness, and
they were like, like, say it in the most evil
Rowley voice.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That voice had my.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Demon voice, and I'm like, I didn't even know I
had one. But as an actor, you're kind of just like, Okay,
let's just have fun with this and do that. But
I'm I'm laughing watching the show.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I mean, we absolutely loved one of your so much,
and we actually discussed whether or not it could have
possibly been your real voice or if it had been
like boosted by computer BOYO vio.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And it's when you growl.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's not a costume and I actually pulled the clip,
so I want to play the clip for you.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Listen to this. It's not a costume, so is that
a real boy?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But that's my real voice? It is you?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, we were like, is it actually her? Or did
they dub it over?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's so funny?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean I just I just growled like as
much as I could growl. And I remember the director
actually telling me. At one point we were rehearsing scenes
on that balcony, and he kept saying like, say it
like as dark and evil as you can. And I
kept trying, and he would go like, you're just too sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm just not buying. I just can you just.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And I'm like, I'm trying really hard, and you just
kept going like, just keep practicing it to whatever. So
I was determined to sound like I was a real
evil witch.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now we've alluded to it a little bit by talking
about how it feels different looking back at it retroactively.
You are very vocal about your faith and your values
and how much they play a pivotal role in the
jobs you act in and the jobs you produce. Would
you if you were offered a role like that today,
would you take it? Or do you think that's something
you pass on?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Here's what I always say. I am an actor. I'm
not looking to play myself right. So if there was
a there was a part that called for the evil witch,
but it was redemptive at the end.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
That's what I'm always looking for in my storytelling and
stories of faith, whether they have faith or not, I
just want redemption. So if the through line was like
evil is good, let's keep practicing this.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
My answer would be no, which how does the episode.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
End really redeem anybody? And it's so weird because it's
also like suddenly Boyby's world is magic, like there is
real spells in the world, and like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean that exact part if offered today,
I probably.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Not, yeah, because I was thinking about that. It really
just ends with you the witch just failing. So at
least she isn't successful, you know, right, she fails, but
like to writer's point, we also just kind of believe,
but it could have been successful, like as in, it
could have worked exactly, which is all weird. I loved
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your hair and I in general just loved the very
cool nineties look.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You had going on.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It was like a little trendier, a little edgier with
some of some of the things we saw with you
as DJ. And now, what are your opinions looking at
it considering all those nineties trends are back in style.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, sometimes I'm like I can't even look at some
of those styles because I've been there, done that, you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Know, I just like, stay away.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But they do look.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Cute on people twenty five years younger than because right, yeah,
but that was fun.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I remember right after.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Full House, I cut like all my hair off. I
went into a boy cut. I bleached it blonde because
I just, I don't know, there's something about it. And
I loved every second a full House. But I just
felt like I'm coming into something new, a new place
in my life, and so that's how I exercised.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah control, I mean an adults, I just like cut
my hair off and made it bleach blonde.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I totally totally understand that. I feel like we all
kind of had our own version, but for me it
was my hair too. I could not wait to cut
my hair the second Boy These World was over. It
was so essential to just be like it finally in
charge of your own appearance in some way, you know,
because when you have a whole team and you have
writers and producers, they're all in charge of what you
look like every weekend. So getting away from that was
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really important for me too. That's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah, I remember that episode, Danielle, when you cut your
hair on the show. Yes, and I so during Full House,
I had cut my hair. I always had long hair,
and then I cut a bob that was just.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Above shoulder length.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But I purposely didn't tell the producers, and I did
it on a random weekend while we were in the
middle of the season, and I just told the hairdresser
to cut my hair. So when I showed up that
Monday at work, I got reprimanded and they were kind
about it, you know, but they took me over and said,
you absolutely can't do this. You should have talked to
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us first. And I don't remember if i'd seen the
episode that you cut your hair first, or I cut
my own hair first, but I just knew if I asked,
they would have said no, or they'd say, well, you
got to wait because we want to write it into
an episode something like that. And you know, it didn't
feel good, but it's so true. You don't have control
of what you look like or what your appearance is.
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And then of course when we ended the show, I'm like,
let's just change it all up totally.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, they they are even you know, in control
of some of the things you do away from stage.
Like writer was very into snowboarding, and it was like,
they don't want you snowboarding.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
They don't want you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And they found out about and they were like, don't
do that again.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, and as a teenager for every teenager, so much
of what you want to do is just shart showing
people how you can make your.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Own decisions and you can do your own thing.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
So yeah, when, no matter what kind of incredible, amazing
situation you had on a show that you loved so much,
when it's over, there is a real sense of like,
I'm free, and.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Here's how I'm going to here's how I'm going to
exercise that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So, Kendice, how exactly you win? Full House started? I
was ten, I was on from ten to eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Wow, yeah, that's those are some formative years there. So
I started Boy Meets World at thirteen, so it was
thirteen to twenty. So I was like already full on
adolescent when the show started. But you started you were
still very much a kid at ten.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, I know, And isn't it. I know you guys
talk about this all the time, but it is weird
growing up in front of a camera, going through puberty
on national television, and for better or for worse, there's
you know, really wonderful things being able to be on
a television show and be cossful and all of that,
(22:29):
but it's just bizarre when like everyone sees your first ZiT,
your boob's coming in.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes, like whatever, it's weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What was the hardest transition for you? At what age
or season was the most difficult?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I think.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Probably right around fifteen sixteen, because you know, that's when
girls really change or I mean, it's the timeline can
be different for anyone, but when you're going through puberty.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think that for.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Me fifteen sixteen and then having episodes like talk about
you know your weight or things like I you know,
it was always the chubby cheeked girl, and a lot
of people loved that I was. And I can look
back and go like, I was just a normal, normal,
average girl. And yet and yet you meet people and
(23:23):
they're always like, you're so much thinner in person, Oh
my gosh, you're so and you're just like, is that
all people see?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Do?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They just see my chubby cheeks?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And so it's of course as a teenager you feel
that insecurity, whether you're on television or not. Yes, but
it gets magnified when you are So those ages were
a little bit more awkward for me. And I just
want to always go back and go I just want
to hug, I want to hug fifteen year old Candice
and go, okay, don't listen to anyone.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Did you watch the show when it was on the
air back then? Were you keeping up with it? I did?
They always we got a videotape, a.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
VHS tape that you had to pay for, yes, that
we had to pay for, and my mom got every
single one of them, and we taped on the nights
that our show aired.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I never really watched it.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
On television, but we got the videotape, and I would
watch every episode because I just in that way, I'm
a learner, so I always I do like to watch
whatever I do so that I can see what I
can fit and make better the next time.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Interesting writers stopped watching because he would notice.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The second I think I watched the first season and
I was like, never again, can't do this.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's going to be too sub conscious. Yeah. I think
Jody never watched the episodes either, until maybe she had
her daughters and watched a few, But no, I watched
them all.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Did they write an episode about your weight ever? Because
I had one about my weight?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, I had one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I had the one where I'm and I had lost
like twenty pounds from the end of one season to another,
I came in losing twenty pounds, but they thought it
was so great and they were like, oh, on the
opening titles, why don't we have you on an exercise bike,
like just to promote that, And looking back, I don't
think that was bad. I mean, I really put a
lot of hard work and effort into losing twenty pounds.
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But the season before I had that episode where it
was like Kimmy and I were going to a pool
party and I didn't want to put a bathing suit on,
so I did a crash diet to try to lose
weight in a week so I wouldn't feel bad about
myself in a bathing suit, and then passed out at
the gym because I wasn't working out. So you know,
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and those are those are things that we also that
many of us struggle with. But yeah, you know, you
play it out on television and sometimes it's like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Did they talk to you about it before? Like did
they call it?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They did? Okay, they did.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
They actually talked to my mom and dad and they
talked to me and said, would you feel comfortable if
we wrote an episode like this? And I was like, yeah, sure,
but when you're in it and doing it, it feels
a little awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I remember for me when they when they called me
into the office to tell me they were going to
it wasn't really like they asked. They just kind of said,
you know, we just you know, want you to know.
Obviously it was Will and I. Will had gained some weight.
I had gained some weight. You know, obviously you guys
have gained a little bit of weight. So we're going
to write an episode about it, and we just wanted
you to know. And here's what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's going to be really funny to see my jaw
on the floor right now. What.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, And I remember that was that being the hardest
part for me was that meeting because Will very much
was like, oh, yeah, I'm totally fine with it just immediately,
which I know now he was very insecure and it
was really painful and powerful for him, but I didn't
know that. And he was very much like he was
(27:00):
so funny and such an amazing actor and was so like, yeah, sure,
that's no problem, that's fine for me. And for me
it was more like, oh wow, like I didn't no
one had said anything to me about it. I had
been aware that I had gained weight, but I was
still you know, I was a size four.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Girl, wasn't like I had let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And so I remember thinking, Wow, they to these people
think I've gained enough weight, we have to write an
entire episode about my weight gain.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And and then and now right now I have.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
To say I'm fine with it because they didn't even
present to me another alternative. And even if they did,
I probably wouldn't have felt comfortable being like, yeah, I
don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
If you had canned, if you had said I'm not
comfortable doing that, that would have been the story.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It is like, oh my gosh, it would have become
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And it's like, yeah, it's such a weird situation, so
much pressure.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And then yeah, then there was just in my head
forever awful.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh I'm so sorry, Like, okay, that just that hurts me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I am grateful. We had wonderful producers that I really
did love.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So they did ask.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
They asked my parents first first, and then they asked me.
They did ask too, They're like, how would you feel about.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Having an episode about getting your period, and I was
like no, no, really, no.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
No, and they went okay, and they didn't they didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And they didn't push it. Yeah. See that's that's nice.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, and I you know, we've interviewed a lot of
actors on this show, and a lot of them have
this story. A lot of them have the story of
being told they've gained weight or the episode where they
they're playing a certain character. And especially for the women,
the nineties were a rough time, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
So have you seen that TikTok or real that's been
going around about you know, why so many many of
us have eating disorders, such mental disorders of body image.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And it's this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Great video that shows like Nicole Ritchie and Jessica Simpson
and maybe even Paris Hilton, like all of these kind
of iconic people, not Paris Hilton, but saying that they
were saying, Oh, you're the chubby one, you're the fat one,
you're the mom Jean's one. And you look at them
(29:22):
and you're like, they're a size too.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There are six, there are a size eight.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
They're like just very still small, average sized people. Anyway,
it's a pretty good, it's a powerful video that's gone
around and I'm like, see, ye, that's what I grew
up with. That was the that was the standard. You're
called fat if you're a size four exactly as a
forty something year old woman like those it's hard to
(29:46):
to get those things out of your mind. They've really
formed and shaped you. You got to do some work to reprogram,
like what is what should be normal?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yes, well, I'm I'm so great.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Every time I have a conversation with somebody, I'm always like,
it's just there is a It is a weird, comforting
feeling to know there isn't something wrong with me.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That that's my experience.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
For all of us who for all of us who
grew up at around that same time with that same experience,
we all say the same things.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I have to reprogram myself.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I still struggle with disordered thoughts about food and disordered
thoughts about working out, and and it has taken a
lifetime to get to a place where I feel like, Okay,
I have got a hand a handle on it. And
even still the bad habits and the bad thoughts can
creep up and I have to rein it back in.
So you know, there is a there is a comfort
(30:41):
in knowing that it's there's nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
That that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So no, okay, I feel I know, I'm just mind.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We could keep going about it because I just I
was reading I had a movie come out this past weekend, inside.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
The way, what was the movie? Tell me about the movie? First?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Oh, not Unsung Hero. But I have a new mystery
movie series. That's all I called The Ainsley McGregor Mysteries.
But of course i'm reading comments. I just said, premiered
this week. I want to see what people thought about it.
And most of the comments were very kind, but there
was those handful of what did she do to her face?
Why does she have so much botox?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Did she get?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
You know, an eyelift? Did she get?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Of course those are the only comments you remember. You
don't remember all the hundred positive ones that are like now,
she's so beautiful, she's aged.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So gracefully, But you only remember your brain. That's why
you just have to stay away.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Don't mean anything like I just want and I don't
answer them, but I want to go like, no, did
you not watch the movie?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Because all I could see were my wrinkles. That's all
I could see.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Because I don't have Botoks. Actually I don't. No, I
didn't get a facelift, and no I'm not on tho
Zepic and like, okay, so anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
You know, the the obsession with comments, especially about women's
faces and what have they had done, has gotten to
a point that is just intolerable. You if you click
on the comments on anything a woman has posted, it
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will within the first five there's something about too much filler.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That's that's that, that's the end. It's just it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Unbelievable and it yeah, it's uncomfortable and it's painful and
it's hard to read, and like writer said, it's so
hard to not have those be the ones that stick
out to you.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
One of my.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Favorites is that they regularly on the on like the
thumbnail at the bottom of an article where they want
you to click on another one, they use a picture
of me from when I was truly eight and a
half months pregnant, but they only use it from the
shoulders up, and it's a story about like, you'll never
believe what she looks like now, and I'm it was
two weeks before I delivered Adler and yeah, my face
(33:03):
is significantly puffier and I want to be.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Like book guys. Could we just could?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We also just mentioned and a half months pregnant here,
but no, just get those clicks no matter what. So
you and I had obviously done some ABC TGIF related.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Promo work together.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We have also run into each other at a lot
of teen magazines and charity events. We were definitely in
the same circles. Had you ever watched Boy Meets World
before you came and appeared on it?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, really did? Of course?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, of course I absolutely did. But like I love
all the shows from the eighties.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
And nineties, all the sitcoms, like they were great, and
I and it was more fun because we knew each other.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So I also feel like I feel like back.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Then, well I don't want to say like we were
cheering each other on. Its feel competitive. I'm like, this
is so cool the TGIF shows or whatever whatever. I
was just we were all rooting each other on, so
they were really fun to watch. And yeah, and I
think there's always a connection when because again, we are
(34:34):
a specific group of people, whether we know each other
or not, whether we're personal friends or not. But we're
in a really special club together. Yeah, grew up on
television in the nineties, you know, some a little bit
in the eighties, and there's something that's very specific about it.
(34:54):
But and and also experiences that a lot of people
will never have and understand that we share together. So
just having this conversation feels.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So cool to me. But of course, like watching your show,
I always watched it and loved it. It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And because there's also the personal connection of going like
I wonder what it's like on their stage, and I
wonder who is doing their hair and makeup, and I
wonder if they get to make the same decisions that
I'm making, or don't get to that I don't get to,
you know, all that kind of stuff you think about.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, I can speak intimately to what it was like
to be on the Full House set because my first
speaking job on television that wasn't a commercial was on
Full House. I did two episodes. I think it was
your first my very first Oh wow, it was my
outside of doing commercials, so my first TV job. It
was my first live studio audience. It was so much fun.
(35:53):
The crew, the cast, everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Was so nice.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I walked around and asked for signed headshots from everybody.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Everyone gave me one.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I still have them all in a binder with like
my call sheets, the script and the ape from each
and every one of you, and then the pictures. My
mom was walking around asking everybody could you take a
picture with Danielle and I have all just the greatest
photos from especially that first week. So I wondered, with
(36:25):
obviously DJ, being such a beloved and well known character
from such a beloved and well known show, do fans ever.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Bring up your appearance on Boy Meets World to you?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yeah, a ton, but I yeah, I get a handful
of comments. And I was actually I was on my
my own podcast. I had a pastor friend of mine
on and before we were talking theology, like deep stuff,
and before it started, he was like, Okay, we just
(37:00):
have to talk about Boy Meets World, like before we
even get this whole thing, we just need to talk
about Boy and that episode that you were on, you
were like, it was.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It was so cute, it was so funny.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But yeah, fans, especially because you know, if they're fans
of your show, sometimes they get me mixed up with
Tapanga or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
But then they always yeah remember, and they're like, oh
my gosh, you were on.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
An episode of Boy Meets World, and yeah, that's always cool.
So it happens every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
So, like us, you obviously grew up in the industry.
Who was your crew? Who were your friends? Who were
you hanging out with when you weren't on set? And
did you guys go to ED Debvick's.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, been to EDS totally so funny.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
I think like with Jody and Andrea, I've been Dad
Vivics and then with my sisters and stuff, you know.
My so most of my crew were not in the industry. Okay,
I really had my friends from school because I part
time did like went to my real public middle school
in high school, so that was like my core crew. However,
(38:08):
if there were industry people that I hung out with,
and he and he was, I hung out with him
a lot. Was Julia White, So Julia and I were
really really good friends. And I was friends with Darius
and Kelly too, because Family Matters was just a couple
of stages down. But Julia and I we were good friends.
We liked each other a lot, and yeah, we're buddies
(38:31):
for a long time and we still keep in touch.
But yeah, he was like he was like your best Yeah,
my bestie.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And you guys were Were you on the Warner Brothers
A lot for all eight seasons or no? We were
on the Sony lot.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
It was like the old Columbia and then it changed
to Sony and Culver City. We were on that for
the first four years, I believe, and then went over
to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Wow, okay, now you are producing a ton of movie
and TV. Was that always something you wanted to do
as you learned more about the business, Where did that
like entrepreneurial spirit come from.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, I've always been an entrepreneur at heart. So when
I came back into the business, because I took this
big ten year break when I had my three kids,
and then when I came back, I think I was
just like I had I had processed things for ten years,
and I'm like, I just came back with a bang.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was like, if I'm going to do this.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I really want to do this, and it was it
was cool because I had such this time to grow
and evaluate all of the things.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And then when I came back, I was very.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Very happy that casting doors opened for me because you
kind of never know when you take a break that
long whether people are going to go like, ah, you
were a kid, we don't need Jaz as an adult.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
They didn't say that to me. It was like, oh,
we remember you and we liked you, so come on in.
And I was grateful for that opportunity. But then I
just you know, I'm a futuristic thinking person. I'm a visionary.
I think we're most of us are all creatives. And
it was like, well, what can I do? And I
would like to do more? But you kind of mentioned
(40:07):
it at the beginning. It was like not having that
control and having everyone tell you what you're going to
do with your life. I think that's the difference in producing,
where I was like, I don't want to just be
an actor and be told what I can do.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I want to I want to build the vision. I
want to build from the ground up and create. And so.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I've Danielle like, I would love to talk to you
so much about directing. I've directed a little bit in
MULTIICAM but which I love. Yeah, but I really found
that producing was more of my sweet spot and what
I really enjoyed doing, even even more than directing because
it's it's so collaborative.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's all of the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It's kind of like playing Tetris and you're just like,
where can I put a round peg into a square hole?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Like how do I for the opposite of that?
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I meant, you know, and so I just I love
the development process and that's why I really like producing.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
As a parent who has taken my children to more
interactive events than I can remember, I am very interested
in your Great American Media's Christmas Festival, which is in
New York this year. Can you tell us a little
bit about it. I know Danica mckeller is going to
be there.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah, we're so excited. This has been a vision for
a couple of years now, and so my company, Candy
Rock Entertainment, is producing this event and it's going to
be at the UBS Stadium that's in Long Island over
the over the Christmas season, really holiday season, like end
of October through I think the first week of January.
(41:43):
But it's a family event, so you know, bring your kids.
You don't have to have a family to come either.
But it's immersive, meaning it's not just it's not like
a con because we know there's Christmas Con and those
kinds of things where it's very and we do Nineties
Con together, which they're super fun, So.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
They're really great.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
You get to meet all the fans, but it's very
autograph driven and picture taking driven, whereas this is a
holiday event. This is for you to come, eat all
of the food, the Christmas and Hanka foods and you know,
all the things that we're celebrating it is. There's live
ice skating, there will be movies playing, there will be crafts.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
To be made.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You can you know, do all the pictures that you
want that will be very you know, like TikTok style
or instagram worthy of snowblobe pictures and all that kind
of stuff. So it's a fun place to come with
your friends and with your family. And also you'll get
to meet some of the actors and sign pictures, take
take autographs, do the meet and greets, and have q
(42:46):
and a's with some of the actors from Great American
Family Channel. But it's just it's much bigger than an
autograph experience, so fun.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
One Santa is there like a one Santa with a
Sarah or or is it going to be multiple Santas.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't know yet. I really don't.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I don't know the answer to that, but you'll be
greeted by a lot of characters throughout the entire evening, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
And this is all in preparation for a massive Christmas
season on great American media with a movie you've produced
and start in coming out soon, A Christmas Less Traveled.
Tell us what it was that gravitated you to these movies.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Well, it's always interesting every year to be looking at
Christmas scripts.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
To develop them, to find a news.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Story that's not that new, because you want the comforts.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Of what we all love in these movies.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
So we found a couple of great scripts, and A
Christmas Less Traveled is actually quite heartfelt, and it's a
journey about this woman that ends up going on a
road trip because her dad passed away and left her
these cassette tapes and it's all these these things and
(44:00):
stories that he wanted to tell her before he passed,
but he just didn't have the emotional capability to say
it to her.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
So she goes on this little journey as she listens.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
To her dad tell her of these experiences and all
the things that he always wanted to say to her.
So and lessons to be learned, so that one's pretty heartfelt.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
And now I'm going.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Into development right now on a movie with Cameron Mathieson
and he's a huge fan favorite. We're excited to work
together because we wanted to for about fifteen years and
have you never, ever, never been paired in a movie together.
So we're doing a movie and right now it's called
The Sweetest Christmas And guess what, guys, We're on a
maple farm and there's lots of Christmas trees.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oh maple farm, sweet Christmas trees.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
So with these movies, do you shoot them all in
the same town or do you do you use the
same crew? Like how does the actual production come together?
Because they are similar, right they sort of. Is it
the same group of people every time in the same place.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
It depends. It's not always the same group of people.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
And with all the movies that are produced, you know,
we shoot them all over they're not they're not all
done in the same location. But because I've been working
in Canada for a very long time, I've been shooting
up there in BC and typically in Vancouver or Colonna
or Victoria, and so for twenty years, really I've been
shooting there, so I have a lot of the same
(45:27):
people in same crew, and depending how close I'm working
on movies back to back, sometimes we roll one crew
into another crew, but they still get Everyone gets like
a three week break while we're prepping for the next movie.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So I just shot.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
One recently, and then I'm prepping now for three weeks
and I go back up there and I'm going to shoot,
so I'll have a lot of familiar faces, but the
cast always feels new.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Right well, speaking of the cast feeling new, today, we
are missing mister Wilford Owll, who would normally have been
here with us. He had a personal thing that popped
up and he could not get out of it, so
he's not here.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
I was sad to miss him, and he is so
funny watching that episode back, He's ridiculously funny and his
comedic timing is so so good.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I know I was going to ask you if you
had any specific memories of working with Will or Matt
that week.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I I just honestly like, I just remember loving them both,
like all three of you. But I think we only writer.
We only had a couple of scenes. They were very short,
exactly and.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Writer is the most carefree, fun loving I've ever seen
sean episode.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
I'm just kind of floating.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I remember being slightly weirded out that I was kissing
Matthew and not Joey.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Because of the age, I think a little bit of that,
but also because.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Like I knew, like I knew Joe and then I
was and now I'm like kissing his little brother, and
so that was a little at the time felt a
little bit funny.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And then I just remember thinking how funny Will was,
and I was like, I just like you. I just
like you as a person. Yeah, you're cool, dude.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
He's funny and he's cool.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Also, I wanted to let our listeners know that they
can watch you as Ainsley McGregor in the Ainsley McGregor
Mysteries A Case for the Wine Maker on Great American Family,
which is out now, and you continue the franchise is
Ainsley Solving Mysteries.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And our question for you today.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Is if Will was going to play a criminal, what
criminal would Will play.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I think he would be some kind of con man
because he's such a good actor, so he would just
he could be all the things, and you just don't
even know what's.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Real give him different accents and different outfits. Go, that's great.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Oh that's a really that's it. That's brilliant. Well, and
thank you so much for spending your time with us today.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Thank you guys, thanks for asking me to be on.
I have to admit to you, I'm like, when are
they going to ask me to be on? I was like,
I was on an episode, I want to be on
the podcast.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
I just like, I feel very united with all of
us TV kids, So thank you for asking me.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
It was super fun.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Absolutely, thank you for spending your time with us.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thanks. Good to see you guys too. Bye.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Exactly what she said, and it's you know, we realized it.
We talked about it so much when we started season
one of doing the pod. It's amazing what an unspoken
shared Bondah.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, all of.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Us, you know, former child actors, nineties actors, whatever you
want to call it, growing up in that time doing
what we did.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
There's such a it's a it's a big.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Community, but a very very small community when you really
think about it, and.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's very different from I'm what I imagine being a
kid actor now is like you know, or or from
what I've experienced, even I mean, you get to work
with kids all the time, but for me on Girl
Meets World, like just their sense of their own careers
is completely I always felt like none of us had
any idea what was going on, Like we had we
were like listening to lucky if we were lucky to
have an agent like Judy Savage, we would take their advice,
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but none of us had a plan for the future
or how. And I feel like now there's much more
sort of predictable pathways of like you're on a Disney show,
you get an album deal and you do you know,
and like they have there's so much more ambitious and
in a way good about it. You know, they know
how to think about themselves in contextualize it. And the
way that at that time I just felt like we
were flailing and none of us had an hangy of
(49:39):
what was going on. And yet but yeah, it's super
interesting the way that like there's all these people that
I know and I don't actually know them that well,
Like I don't, you know, I don't I don't have
many memories of like talking to Julie White that often,
but sure enough if I see him, I'm like, yep,
you and me we get each other, you know, it's
like and there's that that community.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's a very interest connection. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
And something else I thought of with her that you
know she talks about she took that ten year break
where she was married and she decided to start a
family and she took ten years off. So much of
what I say about my own career, I really hurt
my I think I hurt myself in my career if
I wanted to be an actor by taking a couple
just even a couple of years off, but really maybe
it wasn't long enough off.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Like I think about what she said where she.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Was like, yeah, I did a couple of things, but
then I just really stepped away for ten years.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
And then when she came.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Back, there was a oh yeah energy you there was
an energy and an excitement and like she's now new
because we haven't seen her at all.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
And like one one of my best friends said that
to me when I didn't get a part in a
movie that I really wanted, I think when I was
about twenty five or twenty six, and he was like,
you know what, writer, it hasn't been long enough. You
should just quit acting and come back in your thirties,
and I remember thinking like, huh, okay, I didn't. I
just ended up keep acting for a little while and
then quit when I was about thirty.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Just stop. It was good advice. I was like, that's true.
I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
But it's hard to think of yourself in those ways.
You'd think like, oh, I just gotta keep working or
I'm gonna you know, but yeah, and that's what yeah again,
like having any sort of objectivity and like knowledge about
how acting careers work like that, I was always just
stumbling through it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
We didn't have like a business plan. We didn't think
of it like uh, you know, yeah, we just didn't.
So anyway, I thought that was really smart and I
thought that was really interesting that, you know, then while
she was away she got reinspired and had all these
new ideas. Anyway, thank you all for joining us for
this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can
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dot com.
Speaker 4 (51:40):
And we have March.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
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the laughs this episode of Pod Meets World did not
did not have. There were so many jokes missed, so
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Speaker 4 (51:57):
To be made, nobody made them.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
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Do you remember getting into a car accident with me?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, no yet, I was so I must have just
been sixteen and you couldn't drive yet. And we went
to the one on one coffee shop. Yes, a coffee right,
I love that place. And we were pulling out and
I stopped at a stop sign and for some reason
backed up and backed into a woman in her car.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you remember this.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Now that you're saying it. I vaguely remember the backing
up crunch.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh my god. It was the first time I'd ever
been in an accident. I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was terrified.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But what was so funny about is then you and
I get out and this woman could not have been meaner.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
She was so upset. She's like, are you even can
you even drive? Because we were kids, we.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Were so young, exactly is this your parents car?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And I remember you? And I got so like whoa lady?
And she was like she was convinced that, you know,
because I just heard her car, and that I was
never going to pay it, that I didn't have insurance,
and I was sneaking off and I was like in
the middle of the day, and I just remember her
being this like crazy, frantic upset lady, which in retrospect kind.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You see two like babies get out of the car
that just backed into you, and it's like it was
an expensive car, it was an suv, it was my
Pathfinder brand new. Oh yeah, but I just remember you
and I being so self righteous, you know, because I
gave her the insurance information.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But I remember assuring her.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I was like, it's my car, I have my own money,
I do this, and she was so uninged, and I
just remember you and I being like.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I wonder why you backed up at the stop sign.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We maybe maybe yeah, or maybe you were too far
too far out, I know what I mean, Like maybe
you felt like you were too far out.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So oh but I just yeah, I get you know,
And like this has happened to me a couple of times,
Like now we have backup cameras, but like it happened
to be a couple of times where I would back
into something because I just wouldn't look.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, what an idiot.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh yeah, that wasn't sure if you remembered that. I
had that like memory come back to me and I
was like, yeah, Danielle was in the front seat, and
like we were both.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just so like couldn't believe this woman. I can look
back and like, how dare she not respect me?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Dare she assume we're in our parents' car. We are
clearly in our mid teens. We are clear in the
middle of a dish.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
We should have been in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Exactly what she was probably like, these kids are ditching school,
which absolutely the right thing to She's like, do I
have to call the cops on you?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Where's a truancy officers? Officer?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is ridiculous. You just backed into me, and I'm
like it'll probably just like calmed down.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Lady, lady, guys, just a material object.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Don't stress. I used to call everybody's stress puppies.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's why, remember such a your mom's such a stress.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Puppy, just being like she's a total chiz rat right now,
she's all chizen out.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
This has nothing to do with the accident, but I
wanted to know if you recognize the shirt I'm wearing,
it's the north Western San Diego shirt. Yeah, so anyway,
this was made that for us, right, Yes, it was
given to us at a at a meet and greet
after one of our Podmets World live shows based on
the school that Eric Matthews wants to go to the
(03:33):
north Southwestern state. And they made the shirts and they're
so cute they look like they could actually be our merch.
So you know, our our fans are not chiz rats. No,
not or stress puppies or stress puppies. Where'd you get
chiz rat?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, when you're crusting, crusting with some cluckers coffee
cats and sebastopol on coffee all, you know, you become
like a total cheers rat, like these words coming.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Down of you know this, I want more of this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is Sebhole speak from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
This is the most teen writer.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I feel like I've just been transported into and I'm like,
oh man, that's pretty great, Sebhole. Wow, thank you for
thank you for taking me back.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Writer.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
We had so many good times, a lot of rain.
I remember being with you in the rain a lot.
We liked the rain, I know, we love the rain.
We loved County Crows and so we used to sit
and remember there was you had like a big rock,
like a landscaping rock in your yard and Encino and
we would like hang out on the rock, a little
(04:50):
bit of nature.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Hey man, you know, get away from the city, rain
my rock.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This big landscaping rock.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh my god, get away from the stress, puppies.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Let's just crust on this rock and think. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Welcome to Pond meets World.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and we are
missing our dear wil Fredell today. As you could imagine,
every now and then, things come up for us in
our personal lives that have to take priority over doing
the podcast, and when we've already got things scheduled, it's
too hard to necessarily cancel them and pick a different date.
(05:31):
So we have chosen to do the show without Will today.
He is going to be sorely missed, but he will
be back. Everything's cool and good, but there was just
something he needed to take care of. So we will
welcome him back with wide open arms for our next episode.
And today we are very excited to interview someone.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
DJ Tanner is a.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Character name that sits among the most elite sitcom roles
of the nineties. Thanks to our guest this week, an
actor who we can only imagine was compelled by a
to appear with us in a nineteen ninety seven Halloween
Bottle episode that ended with Ben and I most likely
dying in an airplane crash. She played Millie slash Ushkar,
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Queen of Malevolence, daughter of Evil, the love interest of
the newly cast Jack for season five, causing a serious
rift with his roommate Eric because she might just be
a witch. It became one of the most memorable cameos
Boy Meets World ever had, and around the same time
as the Craft was released in theaters, we had our
(06:32):
own version time exactly, we got our own version of
a cute witch chic. But more importantly, she spent eight
seasons on Full House one hundred and ninety two episodes,
a show that cracked the top ten twice and was
only out of the top thirty shows on TV in
its first season. Twenty four point three million viewers tuned
(06:55):
into its hour long series finale, and it was a
show that was still in the top twenty five when
it was taken off the air, which means it shouldn't
have been a surprise when they all returned for a
sequel Netflix show that ran for five more seasons. She
has since built an empire working with Hallmark and now
Great American Media. Her Christmas movies have become as much
of a tradition for the holiday as candy canes, and
(07:17):
now as former criminologist turns Craft's artisan Ainsley McGregor, she
continues her journey of grabbing the torch from Angela Lansbury
and then solving a mystery with it. She's taken on
a power position in Hollywood, producing everything she now stars
in and a ton of other projects, like the recent
movie Unsung Hero. This week on Pod Meets World, we
(07:38):
are talking to someone I am regularly mistaken for. It's
nineties Royalty, Candice Cameron Beret.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
That's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I never knew that you guys got confused in pupil's minds.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It happened a lot when I was a teenager, when
she and I were both teens. It would be like
are you And I would start to answer and they'd
be like.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
From full House, he Hi.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was just saying, how I still to this day
get mistaken for.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You and I get mistaken for you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It recently happened for me at a valet I had,
I had handed over my car keys. I went into
this event, I came out, I went to get my car,
and he was like a teenager and he said, excuse me,
this might be a weird question, but are you And
then just trailed off and I said to Panga from
(08:27):
Boy Meets World and he said, no, I was going
to say. I was going to say, And then he said,
one of your kids' names their mom And he said,
because I did Natasha I did, wasn't Natasha?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I did hockey? I did hockey hockey with him?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was like, that's an interesting way because it wasn't
even that you. So you mistook me for somebody who
used to see it like hockey practice.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, but it's just like that show that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Was on a teen show in the nineties, right, Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It was so say the same thing all the time,
but it's like are you, and I wait for it because.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Sometimes they go to paying us. That's funny.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Thank you so much for joining us. We've been really
looking forward to talking to you. And I have to
assume you don't do a ton of interviews where you
get to talk about playing a witch who has taken
control of the soul of a teenage boy.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Huh No, not too many interviews on that I'm looking back,
I'm laughing pretty hard in retrospect.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yes, well, I'll get to a question about that later.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But I know we asked you to watch the episode
kind of as a catalyst to remember this fever dream
of a script. Did you remember a lot about the
Witches of Penbrook or like us, did you feel like
it was watching a totally different person on screen?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Totally different.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'm glad I watched it because I.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Don't think i'd seen it since we did it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, And first off was like, oh my gosh, the
bleach blonde hair, the cut, like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It was just so nineties. It was kind of incredible
and that was fun.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But then watching the episode, I was like, oh, yeah,
I remember playing playing a witch. And then I'm like, oh,
this is like a little bit spookier and darker than
I remember. And I'm like, huh wait, I said that
we did that, and I was like there was a
lot of making out too.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh yeah, a lot of making out. Which the first
thing I wanted to ask you is what was going on?
Were you had just finished your first iconic run of
Full House as DJ Tanner just two years earlier in
ninety five, So what was going on in your life
in nineteen ninety seven when you came and joined us.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Oh my goodness, So I had just gotten married this way.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Which is crazy.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, because I got married in nineteen ninety six. I
met my husband at eighteen. Then I was going to say,
you were very young, right, That's what I remember about you.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Being on set.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It was like, Wow, she's she's only a couple years
older than us, but she's like married and has this
whole like grown up life that I remember being like.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Why what is that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like, I know it was.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was I don't even know what was going on
in my life except for that, like because we lived
in LA at.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The time, or had you left LA for some reason?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
He was so I still had always had my home
in LA, but my husband was playing for the Montreal Canadians, right,
so I was living there half the year throughout the
season and then I would come back. So yeah, so
I might not have been in LA like at that time,
depending on when we filmed it, but that was what
(11:44):
was going.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
On in my life.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
It was just like marriage, and I was still trying
to work here and there, and then that kind of all,
you know, left. I just put that to rest for
a while, because then a few years later I had
or a year after that, I had Natasha Wool.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So you were visiting us like a few months to
a year after you got married and about a year
before you had your head, before you had Natasha.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeh oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
See interesting transition period.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, and you had a long, extensive list of impressive
shows that you had guest starred on already. You did
Punky Brewster to Saint Elsewhere, Who's the Boss. Did you
enjoy the process of being a week long guest star
in comparison to what you spent eight years doing like
the star of Full House.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I liked it. It was fun.
Sick calling world is I really like it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I don't know about you, guys, but that is my
favorite place to be. So even with all the movies,
all the television movies I do, the mysteries and the
Christmas movies and all of that, my home is in
multi cam soundstage land.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
So being a guest star, it's always a little bit
intimidating when you're walking on someone's set. And I remember,
for with you guys, you guys were awesome. I already
kind of knew you, like, especially you Danielle, so I
felt comfortable. But I'd finished Full House a year, I
guess a year or two before that, So then I
was really nervous walking on that set, even though you
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guys made it great. But I remember being in the
audience or the live show, and we taped that and
had the audience and that's something I'm so used to.
But it was like my heart was pounding that very
first scene. I got so nervous, and then it was like, Okay,
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
How to do this. I couldn't do this.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But and once we got through that first scene, I
was like, Okay, it's like riding a bike. But yeah,
it's always a little different to come on to someone
else's stage because you respect everyone and you want to
do a great job.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You want to show up and.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
You know, and then you just hope that everyone's as
nice and loving and fun as you hope they will be.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yes, I know that feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We've talked about it many times, that like you're walking
into someone else's family, the same way you guys were
such a family on Full House.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know, we've now been on the air for five years.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We've got that same family, and you're like, hey, guys,
just yeah, So I'm glad that it made it a
good experience for you. And then what do you remember,
if anything, about playing Millie aka Bushcar, Queen.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Of Malevolence, daughter of evil?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What a bizarre laughter? What is going on? I know,
it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I remember when they asked me if I would feel
comfortable and they asked me to do that part, and
they were like, how do you feel about playing a witch?
And I was like, well, I'm an actress, like totally fine,
and I'm this is fun.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's sitcom, it's great comedy. I'm good with that, and
so I yeah, came in just feeling really fun.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
But now watching the episode, like ah, I.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Said that, I mean, at the very least, I wonder
if it sounded fun to play a character that was
so against type for you totally, and it was fun.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I remember feeling that it was fun. I'm like, no
one would expect this from me, and it's still felt
like a very safe place to do that because of wait,
the show was all about in itself and it's it's
a family show, so I felt comfortable.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
In that way. But but it was a little weird.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I mean, I remember saying some of those lines now
having watched and I'm like, ah, this, this doesn't totally
feel good, saying like I'm the Queen of Darkness, and
they were like, like, say it in the most evil
Rowley voice.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That voice had my.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Demon voice, and I'm like, I didn't even know I
had one. But as an actor, you're kind of just like, Okay,
let's just have fun with this and do that. But
I'm I'm laughing watching the show.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I mean, we absolutely loved one of your so much,
and we actually discussed whether or not it could have
possibly been your real voice or if it had been
like boosted by computer BOYO vio.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And it's when you growl.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's not a costume and I actually pulled the clip,
so I want to play the clip for you.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Listen to this. It's not a costume, so is that
a real boy?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But that's my real voice? It is you?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, we were like, is it actually her? Or did
they dub it over?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's so funny?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean I just I just growled like as
much as I could growl. And I remember the director
actually telling me. At one point we were rehearsing scenes
on that balcony, and he kept saying like, say it
like as dark and evil as you can. And I
kept trying, and he would go like, you're just too sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm just not buying. I just can you just.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And I'm like, I'm trying really hard, and you just
kept going like, just keep practicing it to whatever. So
I was determined to sound like I was a real
evil witch.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now we've alluded to it a little bit by talking
about how it feels different looking back at it retroactively.
You are very vocal about your faith and your values
and how much they play a pivotal role in the
jobs you act in and the jobs you produce. Would
you if you were offered a role like that today,
would you take it? Or do you think that's something
you pass on?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Here's what I always say. I am an actor. I'm
not looking to play myself right. So if there was
a there was a part that called for the evil witch,
but it was redemptive at the end.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
That's what I'm always looking for in my storytelling and
stories of faith, whether they have faith or not, I
just want redemption. So if the through line was like
evil is good, let's keep practicing this.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
My answer would be no, which how does the episode.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
End really redeem anybody? And it's so weird because it's
also like suddenly Boyby's world is magic, like there is
real spells in the world, and like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean that exact part if offered today,
I probably.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Not, yeah, because I was thinking about that. It really
just ends with you the witch just failing. So at
least she isn't successful, you know, right, she fails, but
like to writer's point, we also just kind of believe,
but it could have been successful, like as in, it
could have worked exactly, which is all weird. I loved
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your hair and I in general just loved the very
cool nineties look.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You had going on.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It was like a little trendier, a little edgier with
some of some of the things we saw with you
as DJ. And now, what are your opinions looking at
it considering all those nineties trends are back in style.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, sometimes I'm like I can't even look at some
of those styles because I've been there, done that, you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Know, I just like, stay away.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But they do look.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Cute on people twenty five years younger than because right, yeah,
but that was fun.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I remember right after.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Full House, I cut like all my hair off. I
went into a boy cut. I bleached it blonde because
I just, I don't know, there's something about it. And
I loved every second a full House. But I just
felt like I'm coming into something new, a new place
in my life, and so that's how I exercised.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah control, I mean an adults, I just like cut
my hair off and made it bleach blonde.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I totally totally understand that. I feel like we all
kind of had our own version, but for me it
was my hair too. I could not wait to cut
my hair the second Boy These World was over. It
was so essential to just be like it finally in
charge of your own appearance in some way, you know,
because when you have a whole team and you have
writers and producers, they're all in charge of what you
look like every weekend. So getting away from that was
(20:03):
really important for me too. That's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah, I remember that episode, Danielle, when you cut your
hair on the show. Yes, and I so during Full House,
I had cut my hair. I always had long hair,
and then I cut a bob that was just.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Above shoulder length.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But I purposely didn't tell the producers, and I did
it on a random weekend while we were in the
middle of the season, and I just told the hairdresser
to cut my hair. So when I showed up that
Monday at work, I got reprimanded and they were kind
about it, you know, but they took me over and said,
you absolutely can't do this. You should have talked to
(20:42):
us first. And I don't remember if i'd seen the
episode that you cut your hair first, or I cut
my own hair first, but I just knew if I asked,
they would have said no, or they'd say, well, you
got to wait because we want to write it into
an episode something like that. And you know, it didn't
feel good, but it's so true. You don't have control
of what you look like or what your appearance is.
(21:05):
And then of course when we ended the show, I'm like,
let's just change it all up totally.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, they they are even you know, in control
of some of the things you do away from stage.
Like writer was very into snowboarding, and it was like,
they don't want you snowboarding.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
They don't want you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And they found out about and they were like, don't
do that again.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, and as a teenager for every teenager, so much
of what you want to do is just shart showing
people how you can make your.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Own decisions and you can do your own thing.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
So yeah, when, no matter what kind of incredible, amazing
situation you had on a show that you loved so much,
when it's over, there is a real sense of like,
I'm free, and.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Here's how I'm going to here's how I'm going to
exercise that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So, Kendice, how exactly you win? Full House started? I
was ten, I was on from ten to eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Wow, yeah, that's those are some formative years there. So
I started Boy Meets World at thirteen, so it was
thirteen to twenty. So I was like already full on
adolescent when the show started. But you started you were
still very much a kid at ten.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, I know, And isn't it. I know you guys
talk about this all the time, but it is weird
growing up in front of a camera, going through puberty
on national television, and for better or for worse, there's
you know, really wonderful things being able to be on
a television show and be cossful and all of that,
(22:29):
but it's just bizarre when like everyone sees your first ZiT,
your boob's coming in.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes, like whatever, it's weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What was the hardest transition for you? At what age
or season was the most difficult?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I think.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Probably right around fifteen sixteen, because you know, that's when
girls really change or I mean, it's the timeline can
be different for anyone, but when you're going through puberty.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think that for.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Me fifteen sixteen and then having episodes like talk about
you know your weight or things like I you know,
it was always the chubby cheeked girl, and a lot
of people loved that I was. And I can look
back and go like, I was just a normal, normal,
average girl. And yet and yet you meet people and
(23:23):
they're always like, you're so much thinner in person, Oh
my gosh, you're so and you're just like, is that
all people see?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Do?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They just see my chubby cheeks?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And so it's of course as a teenager you feel
that insecurity, whether you're on television or not. Yes, but
it gets magnified when you are So those ages were
a little bit more awkward for me. And I just
want to always go back and go I just want
to hug, I want to hug fifteen year old Candice
and go, okay, don't listen to anyone.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Did you watch the show when it was on the
air back then? Were you keeping up with it? I did?
They always we got a videotape, a.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
VHS tape that you had to pay for, yes, that
we had to pay for, and my mom got every
single one of them, and we taped on the nights
that our show aired.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I never really watched it.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
On television, but we got the videotape, and I would
watch every episode because I just in that way, I'm
a learner, so I always I do like to watch
whatever I do so that I can see what I
can fit and make better the next time.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Interesting writers stopped watching because he would notice.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The second I think I watched the first season and
I was like, never again, can't do this.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's going to be too sub conscious. Yeah. I think
Jody never watched the episodes either, until maybe she had
her daughters and watched a few, But no, I watched
them all.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Did they write an episode about your weight ever? Because
I had one about my weight?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, I had one.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I had the one where I'm and I had lost
like twenty pounds from the end of one season to another,
I came in losing twenty pounds, but they thought it
was so great and they were like, oh, on the
opening titles, why don't we have you on an exercise bike,
like just to promote that, And looking back, I don't
think that was bad. I mean, I really put a
lot of hard work and effort into losing twenty pounds.
(25:22):
But the season before I had that episode where it
was like Kimmy and I were going to a pool
party and I didn't want to put a bathing suit on,
so I did a crash diet to try to lose
weight in a week so I wouldn't feel bad about
myself in a bathing suit, and then passed out at
the gym because I wasn't working out. So you know,
(25:44):
and those are those are things that we also that
many of us struggle with. But yeah, you know, you
play it out on television and sometimes it's like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Did they talk to you about it before? Like did
they call it?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They did? Okay, they did.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
They actually talked to my mom and dad and they
talked to me and said, would you feel comfortable if
we wrote an episode like this? And I was like, yeah, sure,
but when you're in it and doing it, it feels
a little awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I remember for me when they when they called me
into the office to tell me they were going to
it wasn't really like they asked. They just kind of said,
you know, we just you know, want you to know.
Obviously it was Will and I. Will had gained some weight.
I had gained some weight. You know, obviously you guys
have gained a little bit of weight. So we're going
to write an episode about it, and we just wanted
you to know. And here's what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's going to be really funny to see my jaw
on the floor right now. What.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, And I remember that was that being the hardest
part for me was that meeting because Will very much
was like, oh, yeah, I'm totally fine with it just immediately,
which I know now he was very insecure and it
was really painful and powerful for him, but I didn't
know that. And he was very much like he was
(27:00):
so funny and such an amazing actor and was so like, yeah, sure,
that's no problem, that's fine for me. And for me
it was more like, oh wow, like I didn't no
one had said anything to me about it. I had
been aware that I had gained weight, but I was
still you know, I was a size four.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Girl, wasn't like I had let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And so I remember thinking, Wow, they to these people
think I've gained enough weight, we have to write an
entire episode about my weight gain.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And and then and now right now I have.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
To say I'm fine with it because they didn't even
present to me another alternative. And even if they did,
I probably wouldn't have felt comfortable being like, yeah, I
don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
If you had canned, if you had said I'm not
comfortable doing that, that would have been the story.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It is like, oh my gosh, it would have become
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And it's like, yeah, it's such a weird situation, so
much pressure.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And then yeah, then there was just in my head
forever awful.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh I'm so sorry, Like, okay, that just that hurts me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I am grateful. We had wonderful producers that I really
did love.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So they did ask.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
They asked my parents first first, and then they asked me.
They did ask too, They're like, how would you feel about.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Having an episode about getting your period, and I was
like no, no, really, no.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
No, and they went okay, and they didn't they didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And they didn't push it. Yeah. See that's that's nice.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, and I you know, we've interviewed a lot of
actors on this show, and a lot of them have
this story. A lot of them have the story of
being told they've gained weight or the episode where they
they're playing a certain character. And especially for the women,
the nineties were a rough time, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
So have you seen that TikTok or real that's been
going around about you know, why so many many of
us have eating disorders, such mental disorders of body image.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And it's this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Great video that shows like Nicole Ritchie and Jessica Simpson
and maybe even Paris Hilton, like all of these kind
of iconic people, not Paris Hilton, but saying that they
were saying, Oh, you're the chubby one, you're the fat one,
you're the mom Jean's one. And you look at them
(29:22):
and you're like, they're a size too.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There are six, there are a size eight.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
They're like just very still small, average sized people. Anyway,
it's a pretty good, it's a powerful video that's gone
around and I'm like, see, ye, that's what I grew
up with. That was the that was the standard. You're
called fat if you're a size four exactly as a
forty something year old woman like those it's hard to
(29:46):
to get those things out of your mind. They've really
formed and shaped you. You got to do some work to reprogram,
like what is what should be normal?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yes, well, I'm I'm so great.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Every time I have a conversation with somebody, I'm always like,
it's just there is a It is a weird, comforting
feeling to know there isn't something wrong with me.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That that's my experience.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
For all of us who for all of us who
grew up at around that same time with that same experience,
we all say the same things.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I have to reprogram myself.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I still struggle with disordered thoughts about food and disordered
thoughts about working out, and and it has taken a
lifetime to get to a place where I feel like, Okay,
I have got a hand a handle on it. And
even still the bad habits and the bad thoughts can
creep up and I have to rein it back in.
So you know, there is a there is a comfort
(30:41):
in knowing that it's there's nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
That that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So no, okay, I feel I know, I'm just mind.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We could keep going about it because I just I
was reading I had a movie come out this past weekend, inside.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
The way, what was the movie? Tell me about the movie? First?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Oh, not Unsung Hero. But I have a new mystery
movie series. That's all I called The Ainsley McGregor Mysteries.
But of course i'm reading comments. I just said, premiered
this week. I want to see what people thought about it.
And most of the comments were very kind, but there
was those handful of what did she do to her face?
Why does she have so much botox?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Did she get?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
You know, an eyelift? Did she get?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Of course those are the only comments you remember. You
don't remember all the hundred positive ones that are like now,
she's so beautiful, she's aged.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So gracefully, But you only remember your brain. That's why
you just have to stay away.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Don't mean anything like I just want and I don't
answer them, but I want to go like, no, did
you not watch the movie?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Because all I could see were my wrinkles. That's all
I could see.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Because I don't have Botoks. Actually I don't. No, I
didn't get a facelift, and no I'm not on tho
Zepic and like, okay, so anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
You know, the the obsession with comments, especially about women's
faces and what have they had done, has gotten to
a point that is just intolerable. You if you click
on the comments on anything a woman has posted, it
(32:19):
will within the first five there's something about too much filler.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That's that's that, that's the end. It's just it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Unbelievable and it yeah, it's uncomfortable and it's painful and
it's hard to read, and like writer said, it's so
hard to not have those be the ones that stick
out to you.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
One of my.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Favorites is that they regularly on the on like the
thumbnail at the bottom of an article where they want
you to click on another one, they use a picture
of me from when I was truly eight and a
half months pregnant, but they only use it from the
shoulders up, and it's a story about like, you'll never
believe what she looks like now, and I'm it was
two weeks before I delivered Adler and yeah, my face
(33:03):
is significantly puffier and I want to be.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Like book guys. Could we just could?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We also just mentioned and a half months pregnant here,
but no, just get those clicks no matter what. So
you and I had obviously done some ABC TGIF related.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Promo work together.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We have also run into each other at a lot
of teen magazines and charity events. We were definitely in
the same circles. Had you ever watched Boy Meets World
before you came and appeared on it?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, really did? Of course?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, of course I absolutely did. But like I love
all the shows from the eighties.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
And nineties, all the sitcoms, like they were great, and
I and it was more fun because we knew each other.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So I also feel like I feel like back.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Then, well I don't want to say like we were
cheering each other on. Its feel competitive. I'm like, this
is so cool the TGIF shows or whatever whatever. I
was just we were all rooting each other on, so
they were really fun to watch. And yeah, and I
think there's always a connection when because again, we are
(34:34):
a specific group of people, whether we know each other
or not, whether we're personal friends or not. But we're
in a really special club together. Yeah, grew up on
television in the nineties, you know, some a little bit
in the eighties, and there's something that's very specific about it.
(34:54):
But and and also experiences that a lot of people
will never have and understand that we share together. So
just having this conversation feels.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So cool to me. But of course, like watching your show,
I always watched it and loved it. It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And because there's also the personal connection of going like
I wonder what it's like on their stage, and I
wonder who is doing their hair and makeup, and I
wonder if they get to make the same decisions that
I'm making, or don't get to that I don't get to,
you know, all that kind of stuff you think about.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, I can speak intimately to what it was like
to be on the Full House set because my first
speaking job on television that wasn't a commercial was on
Full House. I did two episodes. I think it was
your first my very first Oh wow, it was my
outside of doing commercials, so my first TV job. It
was my first live studio audience. It was so much fun.
(35:53):
The crew, the cast, everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Was so nice.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I walked around and asked for signed headshots from everybody.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Everyone gave me one.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I still have them all in a binder with like
my call sheets, the script and the ape from each
and every one of you, and then the pictures. My
mom was walking around asking everybody could you take a
picture with Danielle and I have all just the greatest
photos from especially that first week. So I wondered, with
(36:25):
obviously DJ, being such a beloved and well known character
from such a beloved and well known show, do fans ever.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Bring up your appearance on Boy Meets World to you?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yeah, a ton, but I yeah, I get a handful
of comments. And I was actually I was on my
my own podcast. I had a pastor friend of mine
on and before we were talking theology, like deep stuff,
and before it started, he was like, Okay, we just
(37:00):
have to talk about Boy Meets World, like before we
even get this whole thing, we just need to talk
about Boy and that episode that you were on, you
were like, it was.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It was so cute, it was so funny.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But yeah, fans, especially because you know, if they're fans
of your show, sometimes they get me mixed up with
Tapanga or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
But then they always yeah remember, and they're like, oh
my gosh, you were on.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
An episode of Boy Meets World, and yeah, that's always cool.
So it happens every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
So, like us, you obviously grew up in the industry.
Who was your crew? Who were your friends? Who were
you hanging out with when you weren't on set? And
did you guys go to ED Debvick's.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, been to EDS totally so funny.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
I think like with Jody and Andrea, I've been Dad
Vivics and then with my sisters and stuff, you know.
My so most of my crew were not in the industry. Okay,
I really had my friends from school because I part
time did like went to my real public middle school
in high school, so that was like my core crew. However,
(38:08):
if there were industry people that I hung out with,
and he and he was, I hung out with him
a lot. Was Julia White, So Julia and I were
really really good friends. And I was friends with Darius
and Kelly too, because Family Matters was just a couple
of stages down. But Julia and I we were good friends.
We liked each other a lot, and yeah, we're buddies
(38:31):
for a long time and we still keep in touch.
But yeah, he was like he was like your best Yeah,
my bestie.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And you guys were Were you on the Warner Brothers
A lot for all eight seasons or no? We were
on the Sony lot.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
It was like the old Columbia and then it changed
to Sony and Culver City. We were on that for
the first four years, I believe, and then went over
to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Wow, okay, now you are producing a ton of movie
and TV. Was that always something you wanted to do
as you learned more about the business, Where did that
like entrepreneurial spirit come from.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, I've always been an entrepreneur at heart. So when
I came back into the business, because I took this
big ten year break when I had my three kids,
and then when I came back, I think I was
just like I had I had processed things for ten years,
and I'm like, I just came back with a bang.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was like, if I'm going to do this.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I really want to do this, and it was it
was cool because I had such this time to grow
and evaluate all of the things.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And then when I came back, I was very.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Very happy that casting doors opened for me because you
kind of never know when you take a break that
long whether people are going to go like, ah, you
were a kid, we don't need Jaz as an adult.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
They didn't say that to me. It was like, oh,
we remember you and we liked you, so come on in.
And I was grateful for that opportunity. But then I
just you know, I'm a futuristic thinking person. I'm a visionary.
I think we're most of us are all creatives. And
it was like, well, what can I do? And I
would like to do more? But you kind of mentioned
(40:07):
it at the beginning. It was like not having that
control and having everyone tell you what you're going to
do with your life. I think that's the difference in producing,
where I was like, I don't want to just be
an actor and be told what I can do.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I want to I want to build the vision. I
want to build from the ground up and create. And so.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I've Danielle like, I would love to talk to you
so much about directing. I've directed a little bit in
MULTIICAM but which I love. Yeah, but I really found
that producing was more of my sweet spot and what
I really enjoyed doing, even even more than directing because
it's it's so collaborative.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's all of the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It's kind of like playing Tetris and you're just like,
where can I put a round peg into a square hole?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Like how do I for the opposite of that?
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I meant, you know, and so I just I love
the development process and that's why I really like producing.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
As a parent who has taken my children to more
interactive events than I can remember, I am very interested
in your Great American Media's Christmas Festival, which is in
New York this year. Can you tell us a little
bit about it. I know Danica mckeller is going to
be there.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah, we're so excited. This has been a vision for
a couple of years now, and so my company, Candy
Rock Entertainment, is producing this event and it's going to
be at the UBS Stadium that's in Long Island over
the over the Christmas season, really holiday season, like end
of October through I think the first week of January.
(41:43):
But it's a family event, so you know, bring your kids.
You don't have to have a family to come either.
But it's immersive, meaning it's not just it's not like
a con because we know there's Christmas Con and those
kinds of things where it's very and we do Nineties
Con together, which they're super fun, So.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
They're really great.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
You get to meet all the fans, but it's very
autograph driven and picture taking driven, whereas this is a
holiday event. This is for you to come, eat all
of the food, the Christmas and Hanka foods and you know,
all the things that we're celebrating it is. There's live
ice skating, there will be movies playing, there will be crafts.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
To be made.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You can you know, do all the pictures that you
want that will be very you know, like TikTok style
or instagram worthy of snowblobe pictures and all that kind
of stuff. So it's a fun place to come with
your friends and with your family. And also you'll get
to meet some of the actors and sign pictures, take
take autographs, do the meet and greets, and have q
(42:46):
and a's with some of the actors from Great American
Family Channel. But it's just it's much bigger than an
autograph experience, so fun.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
One Santa is there like a one Santa with a
Sarah or or is it going to be multiple Santas.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't know yet. I really don't.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I don't know the answer to that, but you'll be
greeted by a lot of characters throughout the entire evening, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
And this is all in preparation for a massive Christmas
season on great American media with a movie you've produced
and start in coming out soon, A Christmas Less Traveled.
Tell us what it was that gravitated you to these movies.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Well, it's always interesting every year to be looking at
Christmas scripts.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
To develop them, to find a news.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Story that's not that new, because you want the comforts.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Of what we all love in these movies.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
So we found a couple of great scripts, and A
Christmas Less Traveled is actually quite heartfelt, and it's a
journey about this woman that ends up going on a
road trip because her dad passed away and left her
these cassette tapes and it's all these these things and
(44:00):
stories that he wanted to tell her before he passed,
but he just didn't have the emotional capability to say
it to her.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
So she goes on this little journey as she listens.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
To her dad tell her of these experiences and all
the things that he always wanted to say to her.
So and lessons to be learned, so that one's pretty heartfelt.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
And now I'm going.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Into development right now on a movie with Cameron Mathieson
and he's a huge fan favorite. We're excited to work
together because we wanted to for about fifteen years and
have you never, ever, never been paired in a movie together.
So we're doing a movie and right now it's called
The Sweetest Christmas And guess what, guys, We're on a
maple farm and there's lots of Christmas trees.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oh maple farm, sweet Christmas trees.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
So with these movies, do you shoot them all in
the same town or do you do you use the
same crew? Like how does the actual production come together?
Because they are similar, right they sort of. Is it
the same group of people every time in the same place.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
It depends. It's not always the same group of people.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
And with all the movies that are produced, you know,
we shoot them all over they're not they're not all
done in the same location. But because I've been working
in Canada for a very long time, I've been shooting
up there in BC and typically in Vancouver or Colonna
or Victoria, and so for twenty years, really I've been
shooting there, so I have a lot of the same
(45:27):
people in same crew, and depending how close I'm working
on movies back to back, sometimes we roll one crew
into another crew, but they still get Everyone gets like
a three week break while we're prepping for the next movie.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So I just shot.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
One recently, and then I'm prepping now for three weeks
and I go back up there and I'm going to shoot,
so I'll have a lot of familiar faces, but the
cast always feels new.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Right well, speaking of the cast feeling new, today, we
are missing mister Wilford Owll, who would normally have been
here with us. He had a personal thing that popped
up and he could not get out of it, so
he's not here.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
I was sad to miss him, and he is so
funny watching that episode back, He's ridiculously funny and his
comedic timing is so so good.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I know I was going to ask you if you
had any specific memories of working with Will or Matt
that week.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I I just honestly like, I just remember loving them both,
like all three of you. But I think we only writer.
We only had a couple of scenes. They were very short,
exactly and.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Writer is the most carefree, fun loving I've ever seen
sean episode.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
I'm just kind of floating.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I remember being slightly weirded out that I was kissing
Matthew and not Joey.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Because of the age, I think a little bit of that,
but also because.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Like I knew, like I knew Joe and then I
was and now I'm like kissing his little brother, and
so that was a little at the time felt a
little bit funny.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And then I just remember thinking how funny Will was,
and I was like, I just like you. I just
like you as a person. Yeah, you're cool, dude.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
He's funny and he's cool.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Also, I wanted to let our listeners know that they
can watch you as Ainsley McGregor in the Ainsley McGregor
Mysteries A Case for the Wine Maker on Great American Family,
which is out now, and you continue the franchise is
Ainsley Solving Mysteries.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And our question for you today.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Is if Will was going to play a criminal, what
criminal would Will play.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I think he would be some kind of con man
because he's such a good actor, so he would just
he could be all the things, and you just don't
even know what's.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Real give him different accents and different outfits. Go, that's great.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Oh that's a really that's it. That's brilliant. Well, and
thank you so much for spending your time with us today.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Thank you guys, thanks for asking me to be on.
I have to admit to you, I'm like, when are
they going to ask me to be on? I was like,
I was on an episode, I want to be on
the podcast.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
I just like, I feel very united with all of
us TV kids, So thank you for asking me.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
It was super fun.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Absolutely, thank you for spending your time with us.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thanks. Good to see you guys too. Bye.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Exactly what she said, and it's you know, we realized it.
We talked about it so much when we started season
one of doing the pod. It's amazing what an unspoken
shared Bondah.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, all of.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Us, you know, former child actors, nineties actors, whatever you
want to call it, growing up in that time doing
what we did.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
There's such a it's a it's a big.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Community, but a very very small community when you really
think about it, and.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's very different from I'm what I imagine being a
kid actor now is like you know, or or from
what I've experienced, even I mean, you get to work
with kids all the time, but for me on Girl
Meets World, like just their sense of their own careers
is completely I always felt like none of us had
any idea what was going on, Like we had we
were like listening to lucky if we were lucky to
have an agent like Judy Savage, we would take their advice,
(49:18):
but none of us had a plan for the future
or how. And I feel like now there's much more
sort of predictable pathways of like you're on a Disney show,
you get an album deal and you do you know,
and like they have there's so much more ambitious and
in a way good about it. You know, they know
how to think about themselves in contextualize it. And the
way that at that time I just felt like we
were flailing and none of us had an hangy of
(49:39):
what was going on. And yet but yeah, it's super
interesting the way that like there's all these people that
I know and I don't actually know them that well,
Like I don't, you know, I don't I don't have
many memories of like talking to Julie White that often,
but sure enough if I see him, I'm like, yep,
you and me we get each other, you know, it's
like and there's that that community.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's a very interest connection. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
And something else I thought of with her that you
know she talks about she took that ten year break
where she was married and she decided to start a
family and she took ten years off. So much of
what I say about my own career, I really hurt
my I think I hurt myself in my career if
I wanted to be an actor by taking a couple
just even a couple of years off, but really maybe
it wasn't long enough off.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Like I think about what she said where she.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Was like, yeah, I did a couple of things, but
then I just really stepped away for ten years.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
And then when she came.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Back, there was a oh yeah energy you there was
an energy and an excitement and like she's now new
because we haven't seen her at all.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
And like one one of my best friends said that
to me when I didn't get a part in a
movie that I really wanted, I think when I was
about twenty five or twenty six, and he was like,
you know what, writer, it hasn't been long enough. You
should just quit acting and come back in your thirties,
and I remember thinking like, huh, okay, I didn't. I
just ended up keep acting for a little while and
then quit when I was about thirty.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Just stop. It was good advice. I was like, that's true.
I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
But it's hard to think of yourself in those ways.
You'd think like, oh, I just gotta keep working or
I'm gonna you know, but yeah, and that's what yeah again,
like having any sort of objectivity and like knowledge about
how acting careers work like that, I was always just
stumbling through it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
We didn't have like a business plan. We didn't think
of it like uh, you know, yeah, we just didn't.
So anyway, I thought that was really smart and I
thought that was really interesting that, you know, then while
she was away she got reinspired and had all these
new ideas. Anyway, thank you all for joining us for
this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can
follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can
send us your emails Pod Meets World Show at gmail
(51:39):
dot com.
Speaker 4 (51:40):
And we have March.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Silence, Sad Sad Sad silence. This silence stands for all
the laughs this episode of Pod Meets World did not
did not have. There were so many jokes missed, so
many jokes.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
To be made, nobody made them.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Podmeetsworldshow dot com for sad merch, We love you all,
pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced
and hosted by Danielle Fischl Wilfridell and Wryter Strong executive producers,
Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman Executive in charge of production,
Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara sudbachsch producer, Maddy Moore,
(52:24):
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