September 14, 2025 • 54 mins
Everywhere you look...there’s another Dancing with the Stars legend! And thank God, because Danielle is just hours away from Season 34 debut and open to any and all ideas!
So Full House star, and co-host of the How Rude, Tanneritos podcast, Jodie Sweetin is sitting down to chat about her time in the ballroom, including the injury that sent her straight to the hospital!
What advice does she have for Team Topasha and how did she juggle dance rehearsals and Fuller House? Find out on an all new, and final preseason, episode of Danielle with the Stars!
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischel,
a TV director, a podcaster forever to Panga, and a
mom of two. Currently, though I am learning how to
ballroom dance one step at a time. You will see
me on season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars,
premiering September sixteenth on ABC and Disney Plus, and throughout
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the process, I am recording this podcast chronicling my journey,
giving you the inside story of one celebrities quest for
a Mirror Ball Trophy. I am in the mix as
we speak, practicing every day for the debut episode, a
night that will mark the first time I have danced
in front of an audience since I recited a poem
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for Corey and applied lipstick across my face on Boy
Meets at only twelve years old. Not kidding, but I
figure the best way to prep for the moment is
to talk to those who have competed before me, and
today I have the privilege of talking to another superhero
from the extended Podmeets World universe, a fellow tgiflum who
already competed on Dancing with the Stars and lived to
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talk about it. She appeared on season twenty two of
the show back in twenty sixteen and was partnered with
dancer Kyo Mutzepi, finishing in sixth place and suffering one
of the more dramatic injuries in Dancing with the Star's history.
But don't get it twisted like her ankle. Even though
week eight was her last, she went out with two
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basically perfect scores, a thirty on her jive and a
twenty nine for her tango team up. She's the real
deal and I know I need her help. Today on
Danielle with the Stars, I am paired with Stephanie Tanner,
herself the iconic middle child of full and Fuller House
and the co host of How rutan Arito's Say Hello
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to Jody Sweeten. Hello, Hello, Jody. Thank you so much
for agreeing to talk to me. I am for agreeing to.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Talk to you as if I that's uh.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You're right, because I don't thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, I have agreed for these purposes only for
the next forty five to fifty five minutes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Will speak to you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Thank you. I really appreciate it. I know normally you
have a strict no Danielle policy too.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
From the second I met you, it's just been like, no,
we don't get along.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We don't will we will not discuss Yeah, no, okay,
I know. But seriously, I really do appreciate it because
I am in week one of practice and not since
our Kushling's commercial have I felt this nervous about what
I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So my god, Well, look, if you can handle Kushlings,
you can handle dancing with the stars, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
They're very transferable skills.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, very friends, that makes me feel a lot better.
I I just wanted to know. Did I make a
bad decision here agreeing to do the show? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Did you you like to dance and also be terrified
on live TV in front of a large room full
of screaming people?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So were you terrified even though you're a great dancer? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh my god, oh terrified.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You will learn to hate those three clicks, oh gosh,
because you'll hear them and that's when your music starts,
and when you're in the ballroom half the time you
can't hear it. Because people they want everybody to scream.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So those the first.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Like ten seconds when you're there and you're like, I
just want to hear the music.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because if you know, if you don't hear that, you're like,
you're going to be off. Yeah once if you start
off on a bad foot, how do you ever catch up? Right?
Right right right?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But no, I and I don't mean to scare you
because it was so much fun. It was such incredibly
hard work, but I loved it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I I did it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean I used to go watch ballroom dance competitions
when I was like in my late teens.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm a nerd and I love dance.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That was your fun time.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I mean not like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Every weekend, but I definitely went to a few because
I loved ballroom dance and it was a type of
dance that I never did, and it was partnering, but
I just loved watching it. So when I got the
chance to do it, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
How did you get the chance to do it? Did
they approach you? What was the situation with how you
joined the season? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They approached me. It had been something I was like, oh,
this would be fun, and we had talked about it
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Maybe second season.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm trying to remember what because we were shooting Fuller.
We started shooting Fuller in twenty fifteen, and I want
to say it was twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Sixteen, like season two.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think that I did Dancing with the Stars and
they came to me. Max and Val had done an
episode on Fuller.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
House oh famous a famous dancer brother doing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Answer Brothers, the Schmikowsky's, and Candace had been VAL's
partner when she did Dancing with Stars, and so they
had done an episode and it was super fun and
you know, and so then it was just kind of
like I think that was maybe the seed planted amongst
them a little bit, but it definitely once I went
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back to Fuller that that was kind of when it happened.
And then I got eliminated the night before I went
back to start working on season three, Season two season anyway,
So yeah, I would have been doing both shows and
I was like, yeah, I could do it. And then
once I started back doing Fuller, I was like, I
am so glad I'm doing too.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
How would it have been possible?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It was one of those things where like I do,
I say yes and then figure it and then panic later.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So it's how I try to.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Rule my life is just sure and then go, oh
my god, what have you done?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What have you done? Help me figure this out? Someone
helped me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, but no, I was glad that because that
would have been a lot, because it's as you do. Oh,
I mean you're in just the first week, but it's
a lot anyway, Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I think maybe the rules have changed. I don't
know about when.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, like, what are the rules now post COVID post.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It's been a long time. It's been almost ten years
since I.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, they they're limiting it, limiting us currently to only
four hours a day, five days a week.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That was, we have a limit, okay, have a limit
four hours a day, five days a week. But I
that was I went full out from.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Day one, got it. That's what I figured. I figured
you were. Yeah. I want to talk a little bit
about your dance history, because I know you had never
done ballroom before, but if people remember full House or
have just kept track of your history and memes, they
would know that if.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You've seen a me, I mean you've seen me dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, when did you start dancing? As a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Uh, dance was the first thing I ever did. I
started dancing when I was about three. I started in
like ballet and tap and you know, just having fun.
But I loved it. I always loved performing. And really
my first day dance recital was where my mom kind
of saw that, like not saw that I was like
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enjoyed performing, but saw that I had zero problem being
on a stage and moving other people out of the
way so I could excuse me, you get Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was dressed as a little cabbage patch with a
giant nineteen eighty four ok so, okayay, five sequins satin
homemade costumes I had. I had like a giant bonnet
thing for like look like a little cabbage patch kid.
And that was my ballet number. And then I was
dressed like a small duck. Oh my tap dancing number
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called I Am a dancing duck. I am the dancing duck.
I am Tap tap tup.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh my gosh, do a video of this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's on VHS and my parents have it. But I
do have the costume some okay, I have Oh, I
have the little duck costume. I've got little orange tights
that are probably this big you hitting my little tap
shoes and the little feathers and the hat.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh yeah yeah. So, as you mentioned, it's a difference
than doing a partner dance. Absolutely. Do you think having
a background and dance helped you or hurt you?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Of course, no, having a background and dance definitely helps.
I mean it gives you the baseline for everything, okay,
for turns, for holds, for a posture.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All of that kind of stuff. Great, I have zero I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Hand placement all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It just makes it a little easier if your hands
don't look like this, you know you're used to kind
of blowing them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
What was I saying? It? Did dance help you work?
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
There we go, So it helps me.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'm not doing Dancing with the Stars now because I
forget my own name. You No, it definitely helped. It
definitely helped, and because I loved it, I wanted to
do it every day. I mean I want I was like,
I want to dance four hours a day every day
and push myself right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And so how quickly did you adjust to being with
a partner.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, you learn very quickly that your job is sort
of just to.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Follow okay, which is hard. Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You're probably much like I am, and you're like no, no, no, no,
I'm I can't charge. Yeah, I gotta know what I'm doing.
And so that was like the hardest thing was really holds.
You think you're just in a hold and dancing, but
like no, no, no, your back and your arms and you're like,
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it's And I remember when I.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We had a switch up week.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was with Keo and we had val and he
would make me wear weights on my hands so that
then when you took the weights off, it was that
much easier to hold your hand, you know what I mean.
So you got used to having that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Sort of weight.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it's it was a lot, but it definitely having
a back a dance background was kind of key.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it helped kind of push.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Me along a little further.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And Okay, I definitely think it helped who I think
who won our season was Gingersy, and I think she
had some dance background as well.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So it can help, Okay, it can help for sure. Okay, great,
well I don't have that so but let me tell.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You there's also been like amazing ice skaters, ice dancers
and other dancers that just don't make it the show.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You never do we know of any klutzy middle aged
women who've won, oh, who've won? Because that's what that's
what I'm going for. I'm a real, real klutzy middle
aged woman. I'm gonna just try to learn some grace.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I feel like, learn, learn some grace, be patient with yourself. Okay,
somewhere around week three or four, you'll probably have a meltdown. Yeah, yeah,
that's kind of what it happens. It's I found that like,
by the like week four, I had been practicing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Every day, we had had a couple of show, Like,
I was just.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Burnt, and it was like my brain stopped being able
to kind of absorb information for like two days.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, and I yeah, it was did.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You slow down during those days? Did you? Then?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No? No, no, no, But I did throw a fit.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I did in the middle of my rehearsal. I wasn't
getting something. I don't remember what it was, but it
was like one of those stupid things were for whatever
reason in my brain, I was like turning right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And it was supposed to be left, and I just
couldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I was just frustrated, and so I tried to
make a really dramatic exit to the bathroom, okay, and
the door handle wouldn't work, and so I was just
spinning the door handle on camera because you know, they
precred everything while trying to and I actually it made
me laugh at myself because I was like, Okay, yeah,
I mean, what are you gonna settle down?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You're really having a tanta Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Mean I still had to go have a little tantrum
and like cry in the bathroom, and then I was like, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, Well, thank you for thinking it's
I'm going to get to week four before I breakdown.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But I do appreciate that you are absolutely going to
make it to week for.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Okay, thank you. Can we talk about wardrobe also, because
I don't really fully know what I'm in for with
the outfits, so any advice you have is appreciated. How
much input do you have in the things you wear?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A fair amount, okay, because they come.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
To your rehearsals usually, okay, the wardrobe people. They will
come to your rehearsals and see what your dance.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Looks like, so that whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Creating for you kind of work well.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And there's also like you know, fox trot, some of
the like baller dances like that you have to wear
a long dress.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
That's you know, samba.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You're always in a like sort of swingy little thing
because it makes your hips look really great.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
But you will you will have people changing you and
putting body makeup in places while you're standing in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
A room full of crowded people, and you will.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The thing about dance, live theater and live television is
you learn there is no modesty. You're like, I don't
I have a quick change. I have to change from
one number to the next, and I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Naked right here. Yeah, I gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They don't make you get naked in front of the
whole room of people, but it's you're like, just we
gotta get this done, like you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know. I remember thinking before I had children, someone
saying like I don't remember what I had said, but
saying something like and then so then you just have
all those people in the room. And my mom said, oh, yeah, Dangelle,
you're not thinking about it when you're getting burn And
I was like, oh, I bet I'm gonna think about it.
And then guess what I guess you're not about it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's amazing how things certain things take.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Over and you're like, I don't care, don't get it
all of it. Yeah, but yeah, I mean that. I
will say it's really fun. The costumes are really fun.
But I will warn you you do not dance in
your costume right until dress rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, which is the day before the show. No, I
mean the day of the show. Oh you don't you
for camera blocking, you're not in your wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Uh no, wow, camera block and you're not in your wardrobe.
You wear your wardrobe day of the show. At least
we did our season day of the show for your
dress rehearsal that day.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Oh my gosh. And let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It throws things off sometimes because when we did our samba,
I was used to.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Turning with zero weight on me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I put a beaded dress on that weighed probably twelve pounds.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And all of the beating is at the hips.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So when you're turning now, Kio was like, you got
to turn harder, Like you can't, it's not reading. And
I'm like I'm trying, you know, like swowing my hips
around and yeah, like that's Another thing that you don't
think of is all of a sudden, once you have
that on things that you may have been.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Doing in gym clothes.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes, all of a sudden you It just makes it
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So wow, okay, that's really good to think about, Like, yeah,
what am I gonna be wearing? How quickly am I?
How am I gonna need? Does swing these hips? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
How important does picking songs end up being? It's pretty important.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But they have a lot to say, so, like, okay,
they have most of the say is like it'll usually
be like, oh, here's whatever, the few songs, the five
songs that we like for this particular dance style or whatever,
and then they'll kind of choose one and sometimes they'll
be like, those are great, we didn't pick any of those.
So here's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's yeah for week one? For you, who did you
invite into the audience to watch? Uh? Week one? I
believe it was my parents and my kids. Oh I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Think I'm trying to think of people I invited kind
of over time. I know Lori Lachlan came, Candice came,
I believe Andrea came.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And then just like you know, other friends and stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But yeah, I think it was my parents and my
kids and the audience theft for that first one that
is so cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Uh. Did you have immediate chemistry with Kio or was
it something that grew over time? Did it click right away?
What was your relationship like with him?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It clicked right away. We got along so well and
we had so much fun.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And I.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Was actually really grateful for him as a teacher because
he was patient but pushed me, if that makes sense,
like he it wasn't. I mean, look, Max and Val
are amazing dancers, but the Ukrainian methods of teaching things
are strict. Again waits you know you're dancing with a
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broom handle.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And you're it's right, it's uh, it's strict.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a lot and uh and and Q I think
was able to push me in ways, but also knew
when I was like again, having a frustrated moment, and
he'd be like, okay, let's you know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What, let's say and we would just be stupid and laugh.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And we had all kinds of little inside jokes and
you know, code words and stuff, and you know, when
you're dancing out there, doing the show. You're talking to
each other the whole time. Yeah, and you know you
are just like in it and yeah, you really.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I mean, you definitely get to know and trust the
people that you're out there dancing with.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
And I'd say for women on the show, it's a
little bit different because the guys, the male contestants are
kind of they have to lead and they don't know how,
you know what I mean, So like it's sort of
a I think in some ways, being a woman on
the show is a little bit easier in that you
can kind of fall into the trust of going with
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your partner a little bit easier, which is kind of
one of the keys of ballroom.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, it's interesting you say that because in all the
seasons I've watched, I've always thought, man, the women have
it so much harder. It feels like they have to
do so many more, like they do somebody or spins
and and and I noticed, no matter what my I
is watching the woman, I'm just watching, well, I'm just
watching her dance.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's why we get the fancy costumes and the thing.
And it is true, you're as women, you you are
expected to do more because the male dancer of in
partners just kind of leading and sort of the position
there while somebody else. So it is in that regard,
like their partner can do a lot of showy things
and you're like, I'm not even looking at him.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You guys agree that dance was amazing, amazing you were there.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, but yeah, it's but also like knowing that you
can kind of relax and you don't have to be
the yeah, the one to remember every single next step right,
they'll put you in right, although I did when we
did our season, I did have to dance with another contestant.
I danced with Nile de Marco, Yes, which was interesting
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because he's deaf.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh wow, you did have quite a season of fellow competitors,
Heraldo Rivera, Marla Maples, Antonio Brown, Misha Barton. Did you
did you do any fraternizing with the other kid? Not
with those four?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, An, I mean I feel like the first two
were fairly obvious. Yeah, uh no, I mean they were lovely.
Everyone was nice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
No, I would say that people I probably got closest to.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Janye Morris was on my season from Boys to Men, Yeah,
and I spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Who else? Who else?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Paige Van's aunt. Paige and I spent a lot of
time together. Ginger z she was a doll. We kind
of always had similar like.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Rehearsal schedules.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah right, Antonio was like never there. I felt so
bad for Sharna, Like really it was kind of it
was Antonio was Antonio all over the place and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He would just leave, like the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Car would be there to pick him up and be
like three hours later. John was like, guess we're not
rehearsing today.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh yeah, gosh, yeah, okay, did you have any weird
run ins?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, good no, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Weird run ins.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Everyone, like I said, everyone was excited and like.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Happy to be there.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah, it was all super supportive and you know,
but it was I think the people that go the
first few weeks, Yeah, it's you don't. You just don't
get as close to them because by the week one
and two they're not They're gone.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right. So your first dance was to Confidence by Demi Levado.
What do you remember from that first night? What were
your nerves like?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh my god, it was terrified, Okay, terrified.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I actually have a picture.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh I did where did it go?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Someone stole your photo.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Someone stole my photo. No, I have a photo of
it somewhere, a picture from that first dance. Oh, it's terrifying.
And you and and and then you think you did great,
and then you get the judges, you know what I mean,
and you're.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Like, oh, what was you? Do you remember your first score?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I remember I don't remember my first score.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I think it was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It was like sevens, Okay, that's great, sevens six is
sevens maybe, But I do remember Carrie Anne uh said something.
She was like, your face the whole time you were dancing.
I just didn't like you were face so that I.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Was like, cool things. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
She was like, I just didn't like what was happening
on your face. And I was like, it's called concentration.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, you know what that is. Actually, it's funny that
you say that, because now it's been one of the
things that's been the hardest for me trying to learn.
You think that doing what we do, our personalities would
come through while we're dancing, But I'm so focused on
remembering the steps and the form and everything else that
my face is very different.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, or I just kind of like I
get like an intense when I'm like doing something and
so I'm like and and it was like I looked
kind of angry.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right, but I was just focused, just focused, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, But but yeah, you'll get notes on stuff where
you're like really and.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Then sometimes you'll be like, okay, now I see that,
I see that. Yeah, but yeah, it's uh, it's nerve racking.
And like I said, those when you get out there
and the room start screaming and you hear the announcement
of like it's Jody and Keo dancing that, and you're.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like, okay, hold on, I don't know anything. I don't
know anything.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And then like you just hear the three clicks and
you're like it's time. It's like a roller coaster, like
you get you're just going, going up to the top,
and then the music starts and you're just kind of
going and you go and you're just following along and
you're like.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
And there's a sort of a freedom innute because once you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Get there, you're like, okay, yes, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it's like any live show. The terrifying part of
stepping off the l edge.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, is actually really cool. Yeah, absolutely, and exactly
once you get through that part or in your pants,
which is always my like go to feeling like I'm I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Gonna be sud I'm gonna tell you in those outfits.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, great. Okay, So I won't be staying hydrated
on the show, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh no, you will be hydrated, but you'll be sweating
so much that you you could drink just a giant
arrowhead gallons.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Of water and it would sweat right out. Okay, when
you get a not so great score or a score
you're not happy about, how do you maintain a smile
because I'm worried they're going to give me a score
and I'm gonna think I did much better than that,
and then I'm gonna want to be like, hey, you
let me tell you something right, Well, that happens the
look that does happen.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I seem to remember somebody on our season being like
kind of being like, well, act that you know you
you because sometimes they'll pick at something that you're like.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well that wasn't I mean, I you know, okay, but
like I couldn't fix that, you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't fix my face that's just the face I got,
Like whatever it is that you're like kind of frustrated by, right,
But yeah, it's an exercise in.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
In uh grace.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
To have someone tell you something that you did wrong
live on television and just go, yes, that's you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yes I saw that too, thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And then you're walking off stage with your partner and
you're like, yeah, I can't believe I missed stupid term.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So then in week three and four you ended up
being the last celebrity to be called safe.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What is tormenting me?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Does that feel like awful?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
The world awful. It feels awful because.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Because you know, like there's some people you're like, okay,
they're like and not to sound, but there are there's
people were like, okay, I know they're probably like that
the dance was maybe wasn't greater, you know, Yeah, but
then there's some times you're like, I M M, no idea,
I am not in the bottom, right, I know, I'm
not in the bottom, you know, like rights, it's just
a it's a mind game, you know what I mean,
(25:14):
It's just sort of a mind game sometimes too.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
They got some.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Several people have to be in the bottom and somebody's
got to go home.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So they have to scare people occasionally.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But it's awful because you feel like you've worked so
hard and you've done so much, and you're like, oh, well,
I guess I guess that's the guess that sucked.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know, well, I you had a trajectory that I
hope to emulate in the sense that your first week
was your lowest score, but by the time you then
got to week five, it all had just seemed to
click and you never scored under a twenty five again. Yeah,
what what do you think happened in those first five
weeks that really just catapulted you?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, after that first week, I replaced my face.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, you put a smile on? I did, Yeah, I
put it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I just put the smile on.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I think one nerves.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I also think that that first week, everybody kind
of scores, you know what I mean, Like they got
to give you somewhere to go totally, and that first
week isn't great usually, you know what I mean. There's
it's you're getting used to it, it's your first live show.
By the time you're in a few weeks, you're kind
of like Okay, I know the routine, I know what happens.
This seems a little more like a normal schedule that
(26:32):
I have that I can be accustomed to. But like
that first week just feels like you're kind of all
over the place, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So it's then week six and you get injured and
rushed to the hospital. Oh what happened? Here? Walk us
through the whole injury. Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This was before I had my big injury where I
snapped my ankle on my left side and cash a
bunch of pins and a plate and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Still, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
This was prior to that, Okay, which probably made dancing
a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh, but I definitely like, so we were doing there's
things that you do and you're like, I don't know,
this feels kind of hard. We were it was the
week we were recreating iconic dances, and we were doing
Pink's video for Try Okay, which I don't know if
(27:33):
you've ever seen the video, It's like she's being thrown
on the mattress and dragged, you know, and all this
kind of stuff. It's very like intense and physical and
very physical because Pink.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, exactly goodness, an absolute athlete. Oh my god. So
they're like, you're going to recreate that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm like, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And there was one move that they did where basically
it was a counterbalance of myself and Kio. Right, so
we're leaning away from each other, but I am supporting
our weight. My legs are the ones on the ground
and hit and I forget how we were intertwined, but
(28:15):
basically I have to keep my hips and my core
up or the whole thing collapses down. We had tried
it a couple times before cameras got there.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We had tried it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We had tried it, and it was like, I was like,
I it's a lot, it's you know, like, yeah, he's
a big dude.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
And it was just the like the the balance of it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
If you if you weren't exactly right, and if I
didn't hold that strength, like if everything came crashing down.
And that's basically what happened was the original choreographers came
to help us with the you know, with our our
dance and perfecting stuff and whatever, and they were like, Okay,
we want to see you try this, you know, this move.
(28:57):
Of course they wanted it on camera, and I was like,
this one was hard. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yes, I guess, and we did it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then I was tired and so my core just
kind of collapsed and my ankle rolled and Keio with
his tailbone, came down right on top of my ankle
bone and just shammed it into.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The wood floor, wood floor. I was like, up there,
we go there.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It was so painful. It was the side of my foot,
like the bones on the side of my foot on
the outer edge, uh huh, those little metatarsals and the
ankle bone. And I was cra I mean, I was like,
oh my god, I it was really really painful, and
I was like trying to.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Put weight on it and it just hurt. And I
was like oh.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And I was so upset because I was like no, no, no,
this can't be like, this is not this is not
the way I go home like sobbing, crying. They called
ambulance because of course, you know, ship you over there
and drama, So they shift the ambulance. Keo gets in
the ambulance with me. I remember, he's sitting there holding
my purse and we're like on our way to the
emergency room.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I call my mom. I'm like, I'm going to the er.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I'm like, no, no, it's just my ankle.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Then my gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
We're in the er.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Keo's there with me, and we're there and they do
all these X rays and everything, and they find out
it was a like a severe bone bruise. So I like, okay,
it bruised the bones on the outside of my foot
and the soft tissue, so it was really really tender
to the touch, but nothing was broken. I didn't feel
great to dance on, but it wasn't I wasn't going to,
(30:41):
you know, further aggravate anything. But while we were sitting
there waiting for the doctor. I will never forget, that's
when the news the Prince died came in and I
was sitting in Cedar Sinai and then I started crying
all over.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Again because I love Prince. But I will never forget.
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That was when I was doing Dancing with the Stars
and I hurt myself and I was in the hospital
and Ko and I went, oh no, because we had
just been talking about some song that yeah, so wow. Yeah,
so weird random like things that I remember from.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That, Yeah, you definitely win. You know, whenever somebody's like,
I know you always remember where you were during yeah
you have you You're like, yes, I do, I do. Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then there was another injury where I thought he
broke my nose where we were doing a hold and
he had to like drop me really like into a
thing really quick and like spin and I hit his face,
just punched me right in the nose and I heard
a crack and oh no, Like I ran out of
the room because I thought it was blood. It was
just like snot from getting hit really hard.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I was like, oh great, cool broke my nose, like.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh wow, okay, And then you ended up hurting your
ankle where it like shattered and you needed a plate
and screws or that was a separate injury.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh, that was a separate injury. I was rescuing a
one dollar toy for B like the next year sometime,
and I went over a small fence and landed on
the inside of my left ankle and then the bottom
of my foot was pointing sideways.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, okay, yeah, you
know what, It does make sense actually to me that
children are how we hurt ourselves?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah more yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I was like, oh, I'll get it. Totally worth the
one dollar toy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Exactly, anything to avoid the tantrum.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like right, I was like, well, I was being a
hot shot. I was like, I can hop a fence,
you know. I was like, I've hopped fence under way
worse conditions than this. Yeah, and then I but apparently
I'd never hopped a fence in ugs.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Oh yeah, I do not recommend that there is the
killer ankle support zero. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So were you at any point in time, I know
you mentioned that when you were then let go from
the show you then started season three. Was there ever
a time where you were shooting season two and doing
Dancing with the Stars at the same time. No, okay,
because on hiatus, right, I was on hiatus because we had.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think that the season before they had asked me
to do it, and we were trying to figure out
how can I make this work? And my manager, Rachel,
who you know, has had several clients on there as
dancers and as contestants, and she was just like, I
don't know, I don't think you really want to do this?
(33:31):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I really want to
do this, and it just full House was like Fuller
was like, yeah, no, we can't write this is we
love you but no, And so it kind of happened
over hiatus. But then, like I said, I got a
perfect score all tens on my jove.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah this is week eight, one week before the semifinals.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, one week before the semifinals. And and I
was eliminated. And literally the next morning was back on
the set of Fuller.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So my gosh, okay, so you score a perfect thirty
on your drive and then you also got a twenty
nine on your team up tango and yes, somehow you
were eliminated. Did you feel like this was coming? This
seems like people should have been protesting outside of CBS.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Honestly, I was super happy to go out, how I did.
I loved that jive, it was one of my favorites.
Got a great score. I felt like I went out
on top. And I was like, and I didn't have
to like kill myself to get right to do both jobs,
to do both jobs, because I think I would have
sucked at both of them, you know, like that would
suffer and I wouldn't have been very funny. So yeah,
(34:34):
it was probably better that I just tried to do
one thing at a time.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
After you were eliminated. Did you watch the Semis and
the finals or did did you just need some distance
from it?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I didn't, But I was like I knew all that
was going on, you know what I mean, Like I
didn't care about watching it on TV. I was like, oh,
let me just hear the gossip from everybody. Yeah, you're
still in the MA and people on said and contestants,
you know, just sending pictures or doing all all this
one really well, yeah, no, I wasn't. I I was
(35:05):
really sad the night we got eliminated. And I remember,
because you get eliminated and then they're like, okay, now
go do a press line, and you're like, we did
our press line. And then Kio and I went back
into the ballroom and it was empty. They cleared everything
out for the night, and he and I just went
and sat in there for a while and talked, and
(35:28):
it was really nice, and it was like a really
nice way to feel like, Okay, I gave this floor
everything I could. I gave this partner everything I could,
and we he went further than he had ever gone
in the show. His mom flew in from South Africa
to see his dance. He hadn't seen her in like
nine years. So yeah, it was really cool and really
(35:50):
special and yeah, and I didn't but I didn't. I
didn't watch the rest of it after Wow, I saw highlights.
But yeah, yeah I have And I have a picture
of Key and I sitting on the steps of the
ballroom floor like where the band aid stuff is, and
(36:10):
somebody took a picture of us from behind just kind
of like that is like looking out at the Yeah. Yeah,
it was a nice moment to get to say, like,
thank you. I'm really glad I got to do this.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There is one more dance I want to ask you about,
because when I first signed onto doing the show, Jensen
and I decided to just pick one of our friends
who had been on it and just see how they did.
And we picked you, and we were like, let's watch
one of Jody's dances.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Which one did you watch?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Tell me didn't watch the Disney word samba.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh, the samba, Yes, the samba with the dress that
weighed so much.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's the one that weighed twelve pounds, well, weighed.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Like twelve out And that was the one that I
that I had put on and I was like, Okay,
we're hauling ourselves out there.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah. I watched that dance and I said, how did
she not win? It was spectacular?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Thank you, Thank you. That one was really great. I
loved that dance.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That dance was amazing, and I think Hailey Herbert and
Jenna were I think it was Jenna and Haley were
like the other two kind of backup dancers for like
the first little moment or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean really incredible. I think you that you
scored a twenty one for that dance, and I that's
one of those moments where I want to be like,
hold on, I'm gonna need you to put the scores
down and and rewatch, let's replay play the play the
clip and then and then give her a better score,
because I literally implored if I was even do it
every one of those where I was like, yeah, I
(37:53):
won a twenty one, that was not a twenty one. Yeah,
definitely not. So I just have to tell you how
how incredible I thought, specifically that dance was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That one was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, that one was really fun and like the costume
was amazing. But that was one of those where I
was like, oh this is this is the costume challenge
where you're like I just figured this out two hours
ago and now I have to relearn things.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yes, So looking back now, how do you feel about
your overall performance? Do you think you exceeded your own expectations?
To be honest, I wanted to make it to the end. Okay,
you wanted to make it to that.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You wanted to make it to the end.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
But I was really happy with how I did.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I had to let go of this idea that everything
was going to be perfect and just do my best,
you know, right. I mean I think everybody that goes
on is like I want to make it to the end. Maybe,
I mean, maybe not like Geraldo, but right, I think
most people, if you're really serious about it, or you
have any kind of dance or you just are loving
the show, like I really want to make it to
(39:01):
the end. But no, I I was really proud of
how hard I worked. I was really proud of what
Kio and I did. You know some of the things
that we fought for to get for set design and
stuff like that. You know, it's you, you are, You
have a lot of input. You and your partner have
a lot of input and sometimes you got to really
fight for what you want.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And I was just really proud of of what we
did and what we accomplished, and I thought it looked
great except for my Disney Week.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I hated my Disney Week. What was Disney Week?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
What did you do? God?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
This Shakira song from Zouotopia it still gives me nightmares.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, uh no, it was so Disney Week because like
they do a big you know, Disney whatever crossover or
did when it was on is it's still on it,
It's still on ABC. Yeah. So yeah, they do like
a big Disney crossover week or whatever, and they give
you Disney songs to do stuff to. And that fricking
Zutopia song.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That Oh that was the week.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think it was week three or four, And that
was the week that my brain uh less, I had
my melt down.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I could for whatever reason that dance.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It was that week I was.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Broke you no, we're not, No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And so I got out there and in the middle
of the dance, at one moment, it was like my
entire mind just went.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Wow, blank blank, And.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I will never forget ko sees the terror in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And I was like, I forgot and he's like, just
keep going, just keep going, just give it thing okay,
and turn. I turned and then we're like communicating the
whole time and he's just telling me step by set
because I it was it was like someone snatched.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
My brain out of my body. Can you hear him?
Even with the loud music? Can you hear your broth
when you're right here? You can he yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're like in each other's here. The only
thing you can really hear is them, Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So yeah, it's you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Come to rely on them very yeah, because you're like,
if all, if I fail, you're the backup engine.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, exactly, you have to. You're the copalt here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You're gonna have to throw me around and jar something
loose till I remember where my feet are supposed to be. Yeah,
and I and I remember I got I think that
was one of our lower ones.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
And of course, when you get a low score on
something that you're already kissed about, you know what I mean, You're.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Like, oh, damn, I know, I know, I know, I know,
I don't Yeah, I know, we get it, we get
we can just speak through it. Just you know, just
just I'm just gonna go backstage.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That was kind of how that one fell. I was like,
I know, you don't need to rub it in that
it sucked and I forgot, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But that was the week that was like the mid
because I did I made it to week eight, so
that was it was like week three ish for was
the midpoint where my body and brain went.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing ma'am,
I'm giving you four weeks of this.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't I don't know what to take in any
more information.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
We'd Would you do it again if you were given
the chance at an All Star season? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'm a glutton for punishment. I am.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I'm a glutton for punishment. And you know I did so.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I've done three different like reality show competition ones like that,
and it was because they were all three things that
I really wanted to learn how to do ballroom dance yep,
cook yeah, and push myself physically to the limit like
on a survival sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, and I did that, but.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I would definitely go back and dance again. It would
be interesting to see. I mean, I I feel like
I would do Okay, now that it's been long enough
from my injury, like that doesn't really interfere anymore. But
for a long time it was, you know, I wouldn't
have been able to dance in heels or do anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That was from the the B injury. From the B.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, from the the B injury.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, well it was the It was the small to
the fence and the ex which, by the.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Way, Zoe and her dad because they were it was
Zoe's soccer tournament that we were at when this all happened.
Zoe's dad and her went and retrieved the little toy
and put it in a shadow box, oh, framed, and
that was like Christmas present, and it's sitting upstairs on
my Yeah, oh, to remind you if you remind me.
(43:19):
But also don't remember the broken ankle, you know what
it was? Uh, that broken ankle led to a lot
of reevaluation of a.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Lot of things.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
So if anything, I look at that little thing as
like remember to be still before life forces you to.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, wow, good lesson to take from that.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I mean I haven't learned it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's probably still you know, but I look at it
and I think about.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It, right, you think about it, I should do that
memory memory there. Do people still talk to you about
Dancing with the Stars everywhere you go when the season
is on? Oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Again we're like, I mean I get a lot of
people like you and Keio should have gone further, you know,
And yeah, there were we had a lot of really
great support on our season and a lot of really
great fans. And you know, at the end of the day,
like there's how well you do, which is its own thing,
and then there's the popularity contest of it, all right,
and that you can't account for.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
If if it's a sports person that has.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
A bazillion fans, they're gonna get a lot of you know.
So there's part of it that you're like, I can't
take that. This isn't personal, you.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Know, like it exactly. There's also the aspect of people
who were thinking like, oh, that dance was so good,
I bet they don't need the votes, like people thinking like, right,
they're safe, they're safe. I'm going to put my vote
over here. So yeah, there's so many things you can't
account for. Also, you know, they don't tell you what
the math is they don't tell you like it's here's
(44:50):
how much of it accounts for the judges, and here's
how much are the fans. It's based on the week.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Before your elimination, right right, So so you're not so
like I.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Knew I didn't get eliminated for the perfect score for
the job, exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I got eliminated for the week before, which I was like,
oh I could have done that, you know. But that's
the thing is you're you're like, oh, I'm gonna get eliminated.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
But I had my best night and I just did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I just told me like they're a strading part, but
also kind of the part where I was like, Okay, good,
I got my perfect score and.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Now I can leave exactly, thank you. I am going
out on a high.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, And that honestly we did. We went out on
such a high with that dance. And we had so
many we had like people's you know, in like the
little choir that we had all the dancers with us,
So it was a big number and it was high
energy and just it was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, and I got to wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I think that's why I.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Did so well, because I didn't have to dance.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
In those stupid heels.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I had plant refeshion, I had plantifetchitis. By the end
I had, my feet were a nightmare. Oh gosh, by
from all the dancing and heels.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, and how are your feet now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Still a nightmare. I've had a bunyan ectomy on my
right foot. I've had yeah's, you know. Take care of
your little tootsies.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I will tell you, voltairean.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Gel yeah, buy it now, buy it nowel it is.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's like an anti inflammatory gel. It used to be
prescription only. Now you can get it over the counter
at a IT. I would rub that on the bottom
of my feet to help the inflammation from my ankles
and my feet because you're dancing, as you know, in
two to three inch.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Heels, five hours a day, six days a week.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
And yeah, it becomes a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
O comes a lot on your feet. Okay, Voltaire, I
will I'm I'm telling you, I yeah, I should have
been sponsored by them when I was.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You're like, I'm just putting it my whole body, my
whole body everything.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, can I get another? You will also love the
spray tanning.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Every week you get SPRAYTND. But let me tell you
there's some interesting things that happen. One is, uh, your
body really only holds onto so much spray tan, so
by like week three, it's your gross and they will
tell you go to the Korean spa, go get everything
scrubbed off of you and start over. And you literally like,
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by week three you gotta just We're like, I need
a whole new layer of skin. And with all the
physical therapy because you're constantly seeing the physical therapists for like,
oh my shoulder hurts, my me this, so you're getting.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Taped up with all this physiotape.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Well, the physiotape is sort of that weird like wavy
thing and you put it on your shoulder or on
your back or wherever. Then when you take it off,
some of that spray hand and now you have all
of these strange patterns all over your body that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Just gonna spray over again. Yeah. Like, and you are
never your hair, girl, I don't know how, oh no,
what what your hair?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (48:02):
I'm just saying that I my one of my best friends,
Brooke that you met in San.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Francisco for the live show. Brooke came to the show.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
One night and he was staying with me, and of
course I get home and I'm having.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
To take my hair out.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
There were over eighty bobby pins.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
On my Oh my gosh, because to mention it, not
to say.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Anything of the extensions. So I had all kinds of extensions.
Plus for the last group number we did the Beyonce
Medley thing, I had a half leg clipped to my hair,
plus extensions in the front.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Like my head.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Not only did the does a dress weigh twelve pounds?
You don't have your hair done and all everywhere until
dress rehearsal right, So now all of a sudden, you're like,
oh my god, my head, my head weighs as a
ton because my hair's piled up and you're sprayed, like
I mean, there is nothing moving.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
And I'm just saying that because you got hair.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Me and my three strands of hair, it was heavy
because they had to attach a bunch of stuff. It
might be okay for you because there's no room to
attach any more hair to your head, but for those
of us who are follically challenged, it was a lot
of extensions.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
This is good for me to know because I hadn't
even thought about, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Your hair will be so dried and crispy and fried
from the gel and the heat styling and the hair
spray and the bobby pins.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And the yeah it's yeah, your skin and your hair.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Basically the outer shell of you when you're done is
just you're just gonna want to just scrub it all off,
just in an air fryer.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Internet.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, just crisp yourself, peel it off, start over.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Okay, Well, this was all very good advice. But as
my last question for you, if you could just give
me like one piece of advice as I prep for
episode one, what do you think is the most important
thing specifically for week one?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I would say the most important thing is oh god,
that now to see I've had like three ideas. But
I would say have fun, okay, and connect to the audience.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Both in the room and at.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Home, okay, because that those are the people that like,
you know what I mean. You have to give them
an interesting story, give them, you know, you got to
give some reality TV.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Moments that they love, because that's you know, the show.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
But have fun.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
And the more you're having fun, the more the audience
at home sees it, more, the judges see it, and
also the less you beat yourself up right right, which
is and I know you and you're like, it can
be you can be like I'm an idiot, yes, yeah,
could I screw that up?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
You stupid? Just have fun, And that is the hardest part,
is overcoming that when that happens, when you, like you
said in your example where you were like that Disney
week and you kept wanting to turn it right once,
I'm upset with myself and I'm and I'm so else
talking in such a negative way to get it, forget it.
I'm never I can't I can't learn anything. I can't
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pay attention to anything. Things I knew for sure I
had locked in a second ago. Now I no longer have.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, you will probably also have a tantrum, but I
suggest just check the door handle first.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
So yeah, yeah, So it really.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Ruins the mood when you're like, I'm pissed, door handled,
door handled?
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Right, I can't get out of their Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
But yeah, have fun because it is really fun, Okay,
and it's unlike anything you've ever done in your life.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, good, I'm still very excited. I can't
believe how nervous I already am leading into week one.
But it does make me feel a little better knowing
that even you, who it was such a good dancer,
is such a good dancer that you were that nervous,
Because I'm like, maybe I'm just a dummy for taking
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this on knowing I have no dance experience, but yeah,
even though a dance experience, i'd be this nervous.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
But people your topanga girl.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
People love you. Scott, You're gonna you're you, You and
your hair will go far. I just want me and
my little Crispy here to go far.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I said, yeah, that's it, you and your nine thousand
Bobby pins.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
But no, it really is.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
It's fun, but it is I think more so. It's
not even the dance necessarily. I mean, that's one thing,
but it's the live show of it all. Yeah, I
mean watching what happens in between commercial breaks or what's
going on over here as they're hosting, and there's a
set being built and there's like things flying in and
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it's kind of incredible to watch.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
And be a part of. Like I love live theater.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah, it's such a fun you know, So in that regard,
it is it's really exciting because you're like, we're we're
on the razor's edge of like if something goes wrong,
what then?
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah? You know? Oh so great, Jody, thank you so
much for agreeing to be my friend for this hour.
You're so welcome.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
I'm so glad. I can go back now to not
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Your number you can block me again. I love you
so much.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I love you too.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
I really so appreciate you, and thank you for the advice.
And will you will you come visit me?
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I was gonna say, I was like not to invite myself,
but I will watch you.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I would love to come sit in the audience and
support you and cheer and be screaming for your hair
and for you, but no, mostly my hair, but mostly
your hair.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
No, I would absolutely be honored to come support you.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Okay, thank you so much. And I will bring I will.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Bring all of the kushlings I can find. Bring all
the cush lings and instead of roses, I'm gonna throw
kushlings at you when you do it, when you when
you have a great number.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Perfect yeah, yeah, fact, just aim low. I don't want
to get hit in the face with a cushlin.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
No, no, you'll have like four sets of lashes on.
We don't want to do that now, you'll just kind
of at the you know, at.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
The floor, per your feet, at my feet. I love it.
Thank you so much, Jodi. Always always a pleasure to
see you. Thank you so good to see you too, Danielle.
Thanks bye. Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by
Danielle Fischell. Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive
in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer
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Tara Sudbasch. Theme song by Justin Siegel. Follow us on
Instagram at Danielle with Stars and vote for me
Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischel,
a TV director, a podcaster forever to Panga, and a
mom of two. Currently, though I am learning how to
ballroom dance one step at a time. You will see
me on season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars,
premiering September sixteenth on ABC and Disney Plus, and throughout
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the process, I am recording this podcast chronicling my journey,
giving you the inside story of one celebrities quest for
a Mirror Ball Trophy. I am in the mix as
we speak, practicing every day for the debut episode, a
night that will mark the first time I have danced
in front of an audience since I recited a poem
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for Corey and applied lipstick across my face on Boy
Meets at only twelve years old. Not kidding, but I
figure the best way to prep for the moment is
to talk to those who have competed before me, and
today I have the privilege of talking to another superhero
from the extended Podmeets World universe, a fellow tgiflum who
already competed on Dancing with the Stars and lived to
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talk about it. She appeared on season twenty two of
the show back in twenty sixteen and was partnered with
dancer Kyo Mutzepi, finishing in sixth place and suffering one
of the more dramatic injuries in Dancing with the Star's history.
But don't get it twisted like her ankle. Even though
week eight was her last, she went out with two
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basically perfect scores, a thirty on her jive and a
twenty nine for her tango team up. She's the real
deal and I know I need her help. Today on
Danielle with the Stars, I am paired with Stephanie Tanner,
herself the iconic middle child of full and Fuller House
and the co host of How rutan Arito's Say Hello
(02:01):
to Jody Sweeten. Hello, Hello, Jody. Thank you so much
for agreeing to talk to me. I am for agreeing to.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Talk to you as if I that's uh.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You're right, because I don't thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, I have agreed for these purposes only for
the next forty five to fifty five minutes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Will speak to you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Thank you. I really appreciate it. I know normally you
have a strict no Danielle policy too.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
From the second I met you, it's just been like, no,
we don't get along.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We don't will we will not discuss Yeah, no, okay,
I know. But seriously, I really do appreciate it because
I am in week one of practice and not since
our Kushling's commercial have I felt this nervous about what
I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So my god, Well, look, if you can handle Kushlings,
you can handle dancing with the stars, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
They're very transferable skills.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, very friends, that makes me feel a lot better.
I I just wanted to know. Did I make a
bad decision here agreeing to do the show? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Did you you like to dance and also be terrified
on live TV in front of a large room full
of screaming people?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So were you terrified even though you're a great dancer? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh my god, oh terrified.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You will learn to hate those three clicks, oh gosh,
because you'll hear them and that's when your music starts,
and when you're in the ballroom half the time you
can't hear it. Because people they want everybody to scream.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So those the first.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Like ten seconds when you're there and you're like, I
just want to hear the music.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because if you know, if you don't hear that, you're like,
you're going to be off. Yeah once if you start
off on a bad foot, how do you ever catch up? Right?
Right right right?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But no, I and I don't mean to scare you
because it was so much fun. It was such incredibly
hard work, but I loved it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I I did it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean I used to go watch ballroom dance competitions
when I was like in my late teens.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm a nerd and I love dance.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That was your fun time.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I mean not like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Every weekend, but I definitely went to a few because
I loved ballroom dance and it was a type of
dance that I never did, and it was partnering, but
I just loved watching it. So when I got the
chance to do it, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
How did you get the chance to do it? Did
they approach you? What was the situation with how you
joined the season? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They approached me. It had been something I was like, oh,
this would be fun, and we had talked about it
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Maybe second season.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm trying to remember what because we were shooting Fuller.
We started shooting Fuller in twenty fifteen, and I want
to say it was twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Sixteen, like season two.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think that I did Dancing with the Stars and
they came to me. Max and Val had done an
episode on Fuller.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
House oh famous a famous dancer brother doing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Answer Brothers, the Schmikowsky's, and Candace had been VAL's
partner when she did Dancing with Stars, and so they
had done an episode and it was super fun and
you know, and so then it was just kind of
like I think that was maybe the seed planted amongst
them a little bit, but it definitely once I went
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back to Fuller that that was kind of when it happened.
And then I got eliminated the night before I went
back to start working on season three, Season two season anyway,
So yeah, I would have been doing both shows and
I was like, yeah, I could do it. And then
once I started back doing Fuller, I was like, I
am so glad I'm doing too.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
How would it have been possible?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It was one of those things where like I do,
I say yes and then figure it and then panic later.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So it's how I try to.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Rule my life is just sure and then go, oh
my god, what have you done?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What have you done? Help me figure this out? Someone
helped me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, but no, I was glad that because that
would have been a lot, because it's as you do. Oh,
I mean you're in just the first week, but it's
a lot anyway, Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I think maybe the rules have changed. I don't
know about when.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, like, what are the rules now post COVID post.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It's been a long time. It's been almost ten years
since I.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, they they're limiting it, limiting us currently to only
four hours a day, five days a week.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That was, we have a limit, okay, have a limit
four hours a day, five days a week. But I
that was I went full out from.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Day one, got it. That's what I figured. I figured
you were. Yeah. I want to talk a little bit
about your dance history, because I know you had never
done ballroom before, but if people remember full House or
have just kept track of your history and memes, they
would know that if.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You've seen a me, I mean you've seen me dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, when did you start dancing? As a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Uh, dance was the first thing I ever did. I
started dancing when I was about three. I started in
like ballet and tap and you know, just having fun.
But I loved it. I always loved performing. And really
my first day dance recital was where my mom kind
of saw that, like not saw that I was like
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enjoyed performing, but saw that I had zero problem being
on a stage and moving other people out of the
way so I could excuse me, you get Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was dressed as a little cabbage patch with a
giant nineteen eighty four ok so, okayay, five sequins satin
homemade costumes I had. I had like a giant bonnet
thing for like look like a little cabbage patch kid.
And that was my ballet number. And then I was
dressed like a small duck. Oh my tap dancing number
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called I Am a dancing duck. I am the dancing duck.
I am Tap tap tup.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh my gosh, do a video of this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's on VHS and my parents have it. But I
do have the costume some okay, I have Oh, I
have the little duck costume. I've got little orange tights
that are probably this big you hitting my little tap
shoes and the little feathers and the hat.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh yeah yeah. So, as you mentioned, it's a difference
than doing a partner dance. Absolutely. Do you think having
a background and dance helped you or hurt you?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Of course, no, having a background and dance definitely helps.
I mean it gives you the baseline for everything, okay,
for turns, for holds, for a posture.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All of that kind of stuff. Great, I have zero I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Hand placement all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It just makes it a little easier if your hands
don't look like this, you know you're used to kind
of blowing them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
What was I saying? It? Did dance help you work?
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
There we go, So it helps me.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'm not doing Dancing with the Stars now because I
forget my own name. You No, it definitely helped. It
definitely helped, and because I loved it, I wanted to
do it every day. I mean I want I was like,
I want to dance four hours a day every day
and push myself right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And so how quickly did you adjust to being with
a partner.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, you learn very quickly that your job is sort
of just to.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Follow okay, which is hard. Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You're probably much like I am, and you're like no, no, no, no,
I'm I can't charge. Yeah, I gotta know what I'm doing.
And so that was like the hardest thing was really holds.
You think you're just in a hold and dancing, but
like no, no, no, your back and your arms and you're like,
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it's And I remember when I.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We had a switch up week.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was with Keo and we had val and he
would make me wear weights on my hands so that
then when you took the weights off, it was that
much easier to hold your hand, you know what I mean.
So you got used to having that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Sort of weight.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it's it was a lot, but it definitely having
a back a dance background was kind of key.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think it helped kind of push.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Me along a little further.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And Okay, I definitely think it helped who I think
who won our season was Gingersy, and I think she
had some dance background as well.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So it can help, Okay, it can help for sure. Okay, great,
well I don't have that so but let me tell.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You there's also been like amazing ice skaters, ice dancers
and other dancers that just don't make it the show.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You never do we know of any klutzy middle aged
women who've won, oh, who've won? Because that's what that's
what I'm going for. I'm a real, real klutzy middle
aged woman. I'm gonna just try to learn some grace.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I feel like, learn, learn some grace, be patient with yourself. Okay,
somewhere around week three or four, you'll probably have a meltdown. Yeah, yeah,
that's kind of what it happens. It's I found that like,
by the like week four, I had been practicing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Every day, we had had a couple of show, Like,
I was just.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Burnt, and it was like my brain stopped being able
to kind of absorb information for like two days.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, and I yeah, it was did.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You slow down during those days? Did you? Then?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No? No, no, no, But I did throw a fit.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I did in the middle of my rehearsal. I wasn't
getting something. I don't remember what it was, but it
was like one of those stupid things were for whatever
reason in my brain, I was like turning right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And it was supposed to be left, and I just
couldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I was just frustrated, and so I tried to
make a really dramatic exit to the bathroom, okay, and
the door handle wouldn't work, and so I was just
spinning the door handle on camera because you know, they
precred everything while trying to and I actually it made
me laugh at myself because I was like, Okay, yeah,
I mean, what are you gonna settle down?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You're really having a tanta Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Mean I still had to go have a little tantrum
and like cry in the bathroom, and then I was like, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, Well, thank you for thinking it's
I'm going to get to week four before I breakdown.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But I do appreciate that you are absolutely going to
make it to week for.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Okay, thank you. Can we talk about wardrobe also, because
I don't really fully know what I'm in for with
the outfits, so any advice you have is appreciated. How
much input do you have in the things you wear?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A fair amount, okay, because they come.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
To your rehearsals usually, okay, the wardrobe people. They will
come to your rehearsals and see what your dance.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Looks like, so that whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Creating for you kind of work well.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And there's also like you know, fox trot, some of
the like baller dances like that you have to wear
a long dress.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
That's you know, samba.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You're always in a like sort of swingy little thing
because it makes your hips look really great.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
But you will you will have people changing you and
putting body makeup in places while you're standing in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
A room full of crowded people, and you will.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The thing about dance, live theater and live television is
you learn there is no modesty. You're like, I don't
I have a quick change. I have to change from
one number to the next, and I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Naked right here. Yeah, I gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They don't make you get naked in front of the
whole room of people, but it's you're like, just we
gotta get this done, like you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know. I remember thinking before I had children, someone
saying like I don't remember what I had said, but
saying something like and then so then you just have
all those people in the room. And my mom said, oh, yeah, Dangelle,
you're not thinking about it when you're getting burn And
I was like, oh, I bet I'm gonna think about it.
And then guess what I guess you're not about it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's amazing how things certain things take.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Over and you're like, I don't care, don't get it
all of it. Yeah, but yeah, I mean that. I
will say it's really fun. The costumes are really fun.
But I will warn you you do not dance in
your costume right until dress rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, which is the day before the show. No, I
mean the day of the show. Oh you don't you
for camera blocking, you're not in your wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Uh no, wow, camera block and you're not in your wardrobe.
You wear your wardrobe day of the show. At least
we did our season day of the show for your
dress rehearsal that day.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Oh my gosh. And let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It throws things off sometimes because when we did our samba,
I was used to.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Turning with zero weight on me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I put a beaded dress on that weighed probably twelve pounds.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And all of the beating is at the hips.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So when you're turning now, Kio was like, you got
to turn harder, Like you can't, it's not reading. And
I'm like I'm trying, you know, like swowing my hips
around and yeah, like that's Another thing that you don't
think of is all of a sudden, once you have
that on things that you may have been.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Doing in gym clothes.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes, all of a sudden you It just makes it
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So wow, okay, that's really good to think about, Like, yeah,
what am I gonna be wearing? How quickly am I?
How am I gonna need? Does swing these hips? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
How important does picking songs end up being? It's pretty important.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But they have a lot to say, so, like, okay,
they have most of the say is like it'll usually
be like, oh, here's whatever, the few songs, the five
songs that we like for this particular dance style or whatever,
and then they'll kind of choose one and sometimes they'll
be like, those are great, we didn't pick any of those.
So here's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's yeah for week one? For you, who did you
invite into the audience to watch? Uh? Week one? I
believe it was my parents and my kids. Oh I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Think I'm trying to think of people I invited kind
of over time. I know Lori Lachlan came, Candice came,
I believe Andrea came.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And then just like you know, other friends and stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But yeah, I think it was my parents and my
kids and the audience theft for that first one that
is so cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Uh. Did you have immediate chemistry with Kio or was
it something that grew over time? Did it click right away?
What was your relationship like with him?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It clicked right away. We got along so well and
we had so much fun.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And I.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Was actually really grateful for him as a teacher because
he was patient but pushed me, if that makes sense,
like he it wasn't. I mean, look, Max and Val
are amazing dancers, but the Ukrainian methods of teaching things
are strict. Again waits you know you're dancing with a
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broom handle.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And you're it's right, it's uh, it's strict.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a lot and uh and and Q I think
was able to push me in ways, but also knew
when I was like again, having a frustrated moment, and
he'd be like, okay, let's you know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What, let's say and we would just be stupid and laugh.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And we had all kinds of little inside jokes and
you know, code words and stuff, and you know, when
you're dancing out there, doing the show. You're talking to
each other the whole time. Yeah, and you know you
are just like in it and yeah, you really.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I mean, you definitely get to know and trust the
people that you're out there dancing with.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
And I'd say for women on the show, it's a
little bit different because the guys, the male contestants are
kind of they have to lead and they don't know how,
you know what I mean, So like it's sort of
a I think in some ways, being a woman on
the show is a little bit easier in that you
can kind of fall into the trust of going with
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your partner a little bit easier, which is kind of
one of the keys of ballroom.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, it's interesting you say that because in all the
seasons I've watched, I've always thought, man, the women have
it so much harder. It feels like they have to
do so many more, like they do somebody or spins
and and and I noticed, no matter what my I
is watching the woman, I'm just watching, well, I'm just
watching her dance.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's why we get the fancy costumes and the thing.
And it is true, you're as women, you you are
expected to do more because the male dancer of in
partners just kind of leading and sort of the position
there while somebody else. So it is in that regard,
like their partner can do a lot of showy things
and you're like, I'm not even looking at him.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You guys agree that dance was amazing, amazing you were there.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, but yeah, it's but also like knowing that you
can kind of relax and you don't have to be
the yeah, the one to remember every single next step right,
they'll put you in right, although I did when we
did our season, I did have to dance with another contestant.
I danced with Nile de Marco, Yes, which was interesting
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because he's deaf.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh wow, you did have quite a season of fellow competitors,
Heraldo Rivera, Marla Maples, Antonio Brown, Misha Barton. Did you
did you do any fraternizing with the other kid? Not
with those four?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, An, I mean I feel like the first two
were fairly obvious. Yeah, uh no, I mean they were lovely.
Everyone was nice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
No, I would say that people I probably got closest to.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Janye Morris was on my season from Boys to Men, Yeah,
and I spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Who else? Who else?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Paige Van's aunt. Paige and I spent a lot of
time together. Ginger z she was a doll. We kind
of always had similar like.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Rehearsal schedules.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah right, Antonio was like never there. I felt so
bad for Sharna, Like really it was kind of it
was Antonio was Antonio all over the place and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He would just leave, like the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Car would be there to pick him up and be
like three hours later. John was like, guess we're not
rehearsing today.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh yeah, gosh, yeah, okay, did you have any weird
run ins?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, good no, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Weird run ins.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Everyone, like I said, everyone was excited and like.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Happy to be there.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah, it was all super supportive and you know,
but it was I think the people that go the
first few weeks, Yeah, it's you don't. You just don't
get as close to them because by the week one
and two they're not They're gone.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right. So your first dance was to Confidence by Demi Levado.
What do you remember from that first night? What were
your nerves like?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh my god, it was terrified, Okay, terrified.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I actually have a picture.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh I did where did it go?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Someone stole your photo.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Someone stole my photo. No, I have a photo of
it somewhere, a picture from that first dance. Oh, it's terrifying.
And you and and and then you think you did great,
and then you get the judges, you know what I mean,
and you're.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Like, oh, what was you? Do you remember your first score?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I remember I don't remember my first score.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I think it was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It was like sevens, Okay, that's great, sevens six is
sevens maybe, But I do remember Carrie Anne uh said something.
She was like, your face the whole time you were dancing.
I just didn't like you were face so that I.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Was like, cool things. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
She was like, I just didn't like what was happening
on your face. And I was like, it's called concentration.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, you know what that is. Actually, it's funny that
you say that, because now it's been one of the
things that's been the hardest for me trying to learn.
You think that doing what we do, our personalities would
come through while we're dancing, But I'm so focused on
remembering the steps and the form and everything else that
my face is very different.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, or I just kind of like I
get like an intense when I'm like doing something and
so I'm like and and it was like I looked
kind of angry.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right, but I was just focused, just focused, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, But but yeah, you'll get notes on stuff where
you're like really and.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Then sometimes you'll be like, okay, now I see that,
I see that. Yeah, but yeah, it's uh, it's nerve racking.
And like I said, those when you get out there
and the room start screaming and you hear the announcement
of like it's Jody and Keo dancing that, and you're.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like, okay, hold on, I don't know anything. I don't
know anything.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And then like you just hear the three clicks and
you're like it's time. It's like a roller coaster, like
you get you're just going, going up to the top,
and then the music starts and you're just kind of
going and you go and you're just following along and
you're like.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
And there's a sort of a freedom innute because once you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Get there, you're like, okay, yes, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it's like any live show. The terrifying part of
stepping off the l edge.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, is actually really cool. Yeah, absolutely, and exactly
once you get through that part or in your pants,
which is always my like go to feeling like I'm I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Gonna be sud I'm gonna tell you in those outfits.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, great. Okay, So I won't be staying hydrated
on the show, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh no, you will be hydrated, but you'll be sweating
so much that you you could drink just a giant
arrowhead gallons.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Of water and it would sweat right out. Okay, when
you get a not so great score or a score
you're not happy about, how do you maintain a smile
because I'm worried they're going to give me a score
and I'm gonna think I did much better than that,
and then I'm gonna want to be like, hey, you
let me tell you something right, Well, that happens the
look that does happen.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I seem to remember somebody on our season being like
kind of being like, well, act that you know you
you because sometimes they'll pick at something that you're like.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well that wasn't I mean, I you know, okay, but
like I couldn't fix that, you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't fix my face that's just the face I got,
Like whatever it is that you're like kind of frustrated by, right,
But yeah, it's an exercise in.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
In uh grace.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
To have someone tell you something that you did wrong
live on television and just go, yes, that's you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yes I saw that too, thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And then you're walking off stage with your partner and
you're like, yeah, I can't believe I missed stupid term.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So then in week three and four you ended up
being the last celebrity to be called safe.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What is tormenting me?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Does that feel like awful?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
The world awful. It feels awful because.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Because you know, like there's some people you're like, okay,
they're like and not to sound, but there are there's
people were like, okay, I know they're probably like that
the dance was maybe wasn't greater, you know, Yeah, but
then there's some times you're like, I M M, no idea,
I am not in the bottom, right, I know, I'm
not in the bottom, you know, like rights, it's just
a it's a mind game, you know what I mean,
(25:14):
It's just sort of a mind game sometimes too.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
They got some.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Several people have to be in the bottom and somebody's
got to go home.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So they have to scare people occasionally.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But it's awful because you feel like you've worked so
hard and you've done so much, and you're like, oh, well,
I guess I guess that's the guess that sucked.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know, well, I you had a trajectory that I
hope to emulate in the sense that your first week
was your lowest score, but by the time you then
got to week five, it all had just seemed to
click and you never scored under a twenty five again. Yeah,
what what do you think happened in those first five
weeks that really just catapulted you?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, after that first week, I replaced my face.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, you put a smile on? I did, Yeah, I
put it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I just put the smile on.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I think one nerves.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I also think that that first week, everybody kind
of scores, you know what I mean, Like they got
to give you somewhere to go totally, and that first
week isn't great usually, you know what I mean. There's
it's you're getting used to it, it's your first live show.
By the time you're in a few weeks, you're kind
of like Okay, I know the routine, I know what happens.
This seems a little more like a normal schedule that
(26:32):
I have that I can be accustomed to. But like
that first week just feels like you're kind of all
over the place, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So it's then week six and you get injured and
rushed to the hospital. Oh what happened? Here? Walk us
through the whole injury. Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This was before I had my big injury where I
snapped my ankle on my left side and cash a
bunch of pins and a plate and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Still, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
This was prior to that, Okay, which probably made dancing
a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh, but I definitely like, so we were doing there's
things that you do and you're like, I don't know,
this feels kind of hard. We were it was the
week we were recreating iconic dances, and we were doing
Pink's video for Try Okay, which I don't know if
(27:33):
you've ever seen the video, It's like she's being thrown
on the mattress and dragged, you know, and all this
kind of stuff. It's very like intense and physical and
very physical because Pink.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, exactly goodness, an absolute athlete. Oh my god. So
they're like, you're going to recreate that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm like, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And there was one move that they did where basically
it was a counterbalance of myself and Kio. Right, so
we're leaning away from each other, but I am supporting
our weight. My legs are the ones on the ground
and hit and I forget how we were intertwined, but
(28:15):
basically I have to keep my hips and my core
up or the whole thing collapses down. We had tried
it a couple times before cameras got there.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We had tried it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We had tried it, and it was like, I was like,
I it's a lot, it's you know, like, yeah, he's
a big dude.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
And it was just the like the the balance of it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
If you if you weren't exactly right, and if I
didn't hold that strength, like if everything came crashing down.
And that's basically what happened was the original choreographers came
to help us with the you know, with our our
dance and perfecting stuff and whatever, and they were like, Okay,
we want to see you try this, you know, this move.
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Of course they wanted it on camera, and I was like,
this one was hard. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yes, I guess, and we did it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then I was tired and so my core just
kind of collapsed and my ankle rolled and Keio with
his tailbone, came down right on top of my ankle
bone and just shammed it into.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The wood floor, wood floor. I was like, up there,
we go there.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It was so painful. It was the side of my foot,
like the bones on the side of my foot on
the outer edge, uh huh, those little metatarsals and the
ankle bone. And I was cra I mean, I was like,
oh my god, I it was really really painful, and
I was like trying to.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Put weight on it and it just hurt. And I
was like oh.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And I was so upset because I was like no, no, no,
this can't be like, this is not this is not
the way I go home like sobbing, crying. They called
ambulance because of course, you know, ship you over there
and drama, So they shift the ambulance. Keo gets in
the ambulance with me. I remember, he's sitting there holding
my purse and we're like on our way to the
emergency room.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I call my mom. I'm like, I'm going to the er.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I'm like, no, no, it's just my ankle.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Then my gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
We're in the er.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Keo's there with me, and we're there and they do
all these X rays and everything, and they find out
it was a like a severe bone bruise. So I like, okay,
it bruised the bones on the outside of my foot
and the soft tissue, so it was really really tender
to the touch, but nothing was broken. I didn't feel
great to dance on, but it wasn't I wasn't going to,
(30:41):
you know, further aggravate anything. But while we were sitting
there waiting for the doctor. I will never forget, that's
when the news the Prince died came in and I
was sitting in Cedar Sinai and then I started crying
all over.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Again because I love Prince. But I will never forget.
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That was when I was doing Dancing with the Stars
and I hurt myself and I was in the hospital
and Ko and I went, oh no, because we had
just been talking about some song that yeah, so wow. Yeah,
so weird random like things that I remember from.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That, Yeah, you definitely win. You know, whenever somebody's like,
I know you always remember where you were during yeah
you have you You're like, yes, I do, I do. Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then there was another injury where I thought he
broke my nose where we were doing a hold and
he had to like drop me really like into a
thing really quick and like spin and I hit his face,
just punched me right in the nose and I heard
a crack and oh no, Like I ran out of
the room because I thought it was blood. It was
just like snot from getting hit really hard.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I was like, oh great, cool broke my nose, like.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh wow, okay, And then you ended up hurting your
ankle where it like shattered and you needed a plate
and screws or that was a separate injury.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh, that was a separate injury. I was rescuing a
one dollar toy for B like the next year sometime,
and I went over a small fence and landed on
the inside of my left ankle and then the bottom
of my foot was pointing sideways.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, okay, yeah, you
know what, It does make sense actually to me that
children are how we hurt ourselves?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah more yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I was like, oh, I'll get it. Totally worth the
one dollar toy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Exactly, anything to avoid the tantrum.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like right, I was like, well, I was being a
hot shot. I was like, I can hop a fence,
you know. I was like, I've hopped fence under way
worse conditions than this. Yeah, and then I but apparently
I'd never hopped a fence in ugs.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Oh yeah, I do not recommend that there is the
killer ankle support zero. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So were you at any point in time, I know
you mentioned that when you were then let go from
the show you then started season three. Was there ever
a time where you were shooting season two and doing
Dancing with the Stars at the same time. No, okay,
because on hiatus, right, I was on hiatus because we had.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think that the season before they had asked me
to do it, and we were trying to figure out
how can I make this work? And my manager, Rachel,
who you know, has had several clients on there as
dancers and as contestants, and she was just like, I
don't know, I don't think you really want to do this?
(33:31):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I really want to
do this, and it just full House was like Fuller
was like, yeah, no, we can't write this is we
love you but no, And so it kind of happened
over hiatus. But then, like I said, I got a
perfect score all tens on my jove.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah this is week eight, one week before the semifinals.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, one week before the semifinals. And and I
was eliminated. And literally the next morning was back on
the set of Fuller.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So my gosh, okay, so you score a perfect thirty
on your drive and then you also got a twenty
nine on your team up tango and yes, somehow you
were eliminated. Did you feel like this was coming? This
seems like people should have been protesting outside of CBS.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Honestly, I was super happy to go out, how I did.
I loved that jive, it was one of my favorites.
Got a great score. I felt like I went out
on top. And I was like, and I didn't have
to like kill myself to get right to do both jobs,
to do both jobs, because I think I would have
sucked at both of them, you know, like that would
suffer and I wouldn't have been very funny. So yeah,
(34:34):
it was probably better that I just tried to do
one thing at a time.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
After you were eliminated. Did you watch the Semis and
the finals or did did you just need some distance
from it?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I didn't, But I was like I knew all that
was going on, you know what I mean, Like I
didn't care about watching it on TV. I was like, oh,
let me just hear the gossip from everybody. Yeah, you're
still in the MA and people on said and contestants,
you know, just sending pictures or doing all all this
one really well, yeah, no, I wasn't. I I was
(35:05):
really sad the night we got eliminated. And I remember,
because you get eliminated and then they're like, okay, now
go do a press line, and you're like, we did
our press line. And then Kio and I went back
into the ballroom and it was empty. They cleared everything
out for the night, and he and I just went
and sat in there for a while and talked, and
(35:28):
it was really nice, and it was like a really
nice way to feel like, Okay, I gave this floor
everything I could. I gave this partner everything I could,
and we he went further than he had ever gone
in the show. His mom flew in from South Africa
to see his dance. He hadn't seen her in like
nine years. So yeah, it was really cool and really
(35:50):
special and yeah, and I didn't but I didn't. I
didn't watch the rest of it after Wow, I saw highlights.
But yeah, yeah I have And I have a picture
of Key and I sitting on the steps of the
ballroom floor like where the band aid stuff is, and
(36:10):
somebody took a picture of us from behind just kind
of like that is like looking out at the Yeah. Yeah,
it was a nice moment to get to say, like,
thank you. I'm really glad I got to do this.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
There is one more dance I want to ask you about,
because when I first signed onto doing the show, Jensen
and I decided to just pick one of our friends
who had been on it and just see how they did.
And we picked you, and we were like, let's watch
one of Jody's dances.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Which one did you watch?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Tell me didn't watch the Disney word samba.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh, the samba, Yes, the samba with the dress that
weighed so much.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's the one that weighed twelve pounds, well, weighed.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Like twelve out And that was the one that I
that I had put on and I was like, Okay,
we're hauling ourselves out there.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah. I watched that dance and I said, how did
she not win? It was spectacular?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Thank you, Thank you. That one was really great. I
loved that dance.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That dance was amazing, and I think Hailey Herbert and
Jenna were I think it was Jenna and Haley were
like the other two kind of backup dancers for like
the first little moment or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean really incredible. I think you that you
scored a twenty one for that dance, and I that's
one of those moments where I want to be like,
hold on, I'm gonna need you to put the scores
down and and rewatch, let's replay play the play the
clip and then and then give her a better score,
because I literally implored if I was even do it
every one of those where I was like, yeah, I
(37:53):
won a twenty one, that was not a twenty one. Yeah,
definitely not. So I just have to tell you how
how incredible I thought, specifically that dance was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That one was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, that one was really fun and like the costume
was amazing. But that was one of those where I
was like, oh this is this is the costume challenge
where you're like I just figured this out two hours
ago and now I have to relearn things.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yes, So looking back now, how do you feel about
your overall performance? Do you think you exceeded your own expectations?
To be honest, I wanted to make it to the end. Okay,
you wanted to make it to that.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You wanted to make it to the end.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
But I was really happy with how I did.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I had to let go of this idea that everything
was going to be perfect and just do my best,
you know, right. I mean I think everybody that goes
on is like I want to make it to the end. Maybe,
I mean, maybe not like Geraldo, but right, I think
most people, if you're really serious about it, or you
have any kind of dance or you just are loving
the show, like I really want to make it to
(39:01):
the end. But no, I I was really proud of
how hard I worked. I was really proud of what
Kio and I did. You know some of the things
that we fought for to get for set design and
stuff like that. You know, it's you, you are, You
have a lot of input. You and your partner have
a lot of input and sometimes you got to really
fight for what you want.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And I was just really proud of of what we
did and what we accomplished, and I thought it looked
great except for my Disney Week.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I hated my Disney Week. What was Disney Week?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
What did you do? God?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
This Shakira song from Zouotopia it still gives me nightmares.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, uh no, it was so Disney Week because like
they do a big you know, Disney whatever crossover or
did when it was on is it's still on it,
It's still on ABC. Yeah. So yeah, they do like
a big Disney crossover week or whatever, and they give
you Disney songs to do stuff to. And that fricking
Zutopia song.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That Oh that was the week.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think it was week three or four, And that
was the week that my brain uh less, I had
my melt down.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I could for whatever reason that dance.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It was that week I was.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Broke you no, we're not, No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And so I got out there and in the middle
of the dance, at one moment, it was like my
entire mind just went.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Wow, blank blank, And.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I will never forget ko sees the terror in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And I was like, I forgot and he's like, just
keep going, just keep going, just give it thing okay,
and turn. I turned and then we're like communicating the
whole time and he's just telling me step by set
because I it was it was like someone snatched.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
My brain out of my body. Can you hear him?
Even with the loud music? Can you hear your broth
when you're right here? You can he yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're like in each other's here. The only
thing you can really hear is them, Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So yeah, it's you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Come to rely on them very yeah, because you're like,
if all, if I fail, you're the backup engine.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, exactly, you have to. You're the copalt here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You're gonna have to throw me around and jar something
loose till I remember where my feet are supposed to be. Yeah,
and I and I remember I got I think that
was one of our lower ones.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
And of course, when you get a low score on
something that you're already kissed about, you know what I mean, You're.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Like, oh, damn, I know, I know, I know, I know,
I don't Yeah, I know, we get it, we get
we can just speak through it. Just you know, just
just I'm just gonna go backstage.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That was kind of how that one fell. I was like,
I know, you don't need to rub it in that
it sucked and I forgot, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But that was the week that was like the mid
because I did I made it to week eight, so
that was it was like week three ish for was
the midpoint where my body and brain went.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing ma'am,
I'm giving you four weeks of this.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't I don't know what to take in any
more information.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
We'd Would you do it again if you were given
the chance at an All Star season? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'm a glutton for punishment. I am.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I'm a glutton for punishment. And you know I did so.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I've done three different like reality show competition ones like that,
and it was because they were all three things that
I really wanted to learn how to do ballroom dance yep,
cook yeah, and push myself physically to the limit like
on a survival sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, and I did that, but.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I would definitely go back and dance again. It would
be interesting to see. I mean, I I feel like
I would do Okay, now that it's been long enough
from my injury, like that doesn't really interfere anymore. But
for a long time it was, you know, I wouldn't
have been able to dance in heels or do anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That was from the the B injury. From the B.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, from the the B injury.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, well it was the It was the small to
the fence and the ex which, by the.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Way, Zoe and her dad because they were it was
Zoe's soccer tournament that we were at when this all happened.
Zoe's dad and her went and retrieved the little toy
and put it in a shadow box, oh, framed, and
that was like Christmas present, and it's sitting upstairs on
my Yeah, oh, to remind you if you remind me.
(43:19):
But also don't remember the broken ankle, you know what
it was? Uh, that broken ankle led to a lot
of reevaluation of a.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Lot of things.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
So if anything, I look at that little thing as
like remember to be still before life forces you to.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, wow, good lesson to take from that.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I mean I haven't learned it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's probably still you know, but I look at it
and I think about.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It, right, you think about it, I should do that
memory memory there. Do people still talk to you about
Dancing with the Stars everywhere you go when the season
is on? Oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Again we're like, I mean I get a lot of
people like you and Keio should have gone further, you know,
And yeah, there were we had a lot of really
great support on our season and a lot of really
great fans. And you know, at the end of the day,
like there's how well you do, which is its own thing,
and then there's the popularity contest of it, all right,
and that you can't account for.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
If if it's a sports person that has.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
A bazillion fans, they're gonna get a lot of you know.
So there's part of it that you're like, I can't
take that. This isn't personal, you.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Know, like it exactly. There's also the aspect of people
who were thinking like, oh, that dance was so good,
I bet they don't need the votes, like people thinking like, right,
they're safe, they're safe. I'm going to put my vote
over here. So yeah, there's so many things you can't
account for. Also, you know, they don't tell you what
the math is they don't tell you like it's here's
(44:50):
how much of it accounts for the judges, and here's
how much are the fans. It's based on the week.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Before your elimination, right right, So so you're not so
like I.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Knew I didn't get eliminated for the perfect score for
the job, exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I got eliminated for the week before, which I was like,
oh I could have done that, you know. But that's
the thing is you're you're like, oh, I'm gonna get eliminated.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
But I had my best night and I just did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I just told me like they're a strading part, but
also kind of the part where I was like, Okay, good,
I got my perfect score and.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Now I can leave exactly, thank you. I am going
out on a high.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, And that honestly we did. We went out on
such a high with that dance. And we had so
many we had like people's you know, in like the
little choir that we had all the dancers with us,
So it was a big number and it was high
energy and just it was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, and I got to wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I think that's why I.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Did so well, because I didn't have to dance.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
In those stupid heels.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I had plant refeshion, I had plantifetchitis. By the end
I had, my feet were a nightmare. Oh gosh, by
from all the dancing and heels.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, and how are your feet now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Still a nightmare. I've had a bunyan ectomy on my
right foot. I've had yeah's, you know. Take care of
your little tootsies.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I will tell you, voltairean.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Gel yeah, buy it now, buy it nowel it is.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's like an anti inflammatory gel. It used to be
prescription only. Now you can get it over the counter
at a IT. I would rub that on the bottom
of my feet to help the inflammation from my ankles
and my feet because you're dancing, as you know, in
two to three inch.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Heels, five hours a day, six days a week.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
And yeah, it becomes a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
O comes a lot on your feet. Okay, Voltaire, I
will I'm I'm telling you, I yeah, I should have
been sponsored by them when I was.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You're like, I'm just putting it my whole body, my
whole body everything.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, can I get another? You will also love the
spray tanning.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Every week you get SPRAYTND. But let me tell you
there's some interesting things that happen. One is, uh, your
body really only holds onto so much spray tan, so
by like week three, it's your gross and they will
tell you go to the Korean spa, go get everything
scrubbed off of you and start over. And you literally like,
(47:19):
by week three you gotta just We're like, I need
a whole new layer of skin. And with all the
physical therapy because you're constantly seeing the physical therapists for like,
oh my shoulder hurts, my me this, so you're getting.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Taped up with all this physiotape.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Well, the physiotape is sort of that weird like wavy
thing and you put it on your shoulder or on
your back or wherever. Then when you take it off,
some of that spray hand and now you have all
of these strange patterns all over your body that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Just gonna spray over again. Yeah. Like, and you are
never your hair, girl, I don't know how, oh no,
what what your hair?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (48:02):
I'm just saying that I my one of my best friends,
Brooke that you met in San.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Francisco for the live show. Brooke came to the show.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
One night and he was staying with me, and of
course I get home and I'm having.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
To take my hair out.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
There were over eighty bobby pins.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
On my Oh my gosh, because to mention it, not
to say.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Anything of the extensions. So I had all kinds of extensions.
Plus for the last group number we did the Beyonce
Medley thing, I had a half leg clipped to my hair,
plus extensions in the front.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Like my head.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Not only did the does a dress weigh twelve pounds?
You don't have your hair done and all everywhere until
dress rehearsal right, So now all of a sudden, you're like,
oh my god, my head, my head weighs as a
ton because my hair's piled up and you're sprayed, like
I mean, there is nothing moving.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
And I'm just saying that because you got hair.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Me and my three strands of hair, it was heavy
because they had to attach a bunch of stuff. It
might be okay for you because there's no room to
attach any more hair to your head, but for those
of us who are follically challenged, it was a lot
of extensions.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
This is good for me to know because I hadn't
even thought about, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Your hair will be so dried and crispy and fried
from the gel and the heat styling and the hair
spray and the bobby pins.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And the yeah it's yeah, your skin and your hair.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Basically the outer shell of you when you're done is
just you're just gonna want to just scrub it all off,
just in an air fryer.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Internet.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, just crisp yourself, peel it off, start over.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Okay, Well, this was all very good advice. But as
my last question for you, if you could just give
me like one piece of advice as I prep for
episode one, what do you think is the most important
thing specifically for week one?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I would say the most important thing is oh god,
that now to see I've had like three ideas. But
I would say have fun, okay, and connect to the audience.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Both in the room and at.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Home, okay, because that those are the people that like,
you know what I mean. You have to give them
an interesting story, give them, you know, you got to
give some reality TV.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Moments that they love, because that's you know, the show.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
But have fun.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
And the more you're having fun, the more the audience
at home sees it, more, the judges see it, and
also the less you beat yourself up right right, which
is and I know you and you're like, it can
be you can be like I'm an idiot, yes, yeah,
could I screw that up?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
You stupid? Just have fun, And that is the hardest part,
is overcoming that when that happens, when you, like you
said in your example where you were like that Disney
week and you kept wanting to turn it right once,
I'm upset with myself and I'm and I'm so else
talking in such a negative way to get it, forget it.
I'm never I can't I can't learn anything. I can't
(51:06):
pay attention to anything. Things I knew for sure I
had locked in a second ago. Now I no longer have.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, you will probably also have a tantrum, but I
suggest just check the door handle first.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
So yeah, yeah, So it really.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Ruins the mood when you're like, I'm pissed, door handled,
door handled?
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Right, I can't get out of their Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
But yeah, have fun because it is really fun, Okay,
and it's unlike anything you've ever done in your life.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, good, I'm still very excited. I can't
believe how nervous I already am leading into week one.
But it does make me feel a little better knowing
that even you, who it was such a good dancer,
is such a good dancer that you were that nervous,
Because I'm like, maybe I'm just a dummy for taking
(51:53):
this on knowing I have no dance experience, but yeah,
even though a dance experience, i'd be this nervous.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
But people your topanga girl.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
People love you. Scott, You're gonna you're you, You and
your hair will go far. I just want me and
my little Crispy here to go far.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I said, yeah, that's it, you and your nine thousand
Bobby pins.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
But no, it really is.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
It's fun, but it is I think more so. It's
not even the dance necessarily. I mean, that's one thing,
but it's the live show of it all. Yeah, I
mean watching what happens in between commercial breaks or what's
going on over here as they're hosting, and there's a
set being built and there's like things flying in and
(52:33):
it's kind of incredible to watch.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
And be a part of. Like I love live theater.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah, it's such a fun you know, So in that regard,
it is it's really exciting because you're like, we're we're
on the razor's edge of like if something goes wrong,
what then?
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah? You know? Oh so great, Jody, thank you so
much for agreeing to be my friend for this hour.
You're so welcome.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
I'm so glad. I can go back now to not
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Your number you can block me again. I love you
so much.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I love you too.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
I really so appreciate you, and thank you for the advice.
And will you will you come visit me?
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I was gonna say, I was like not to invite myself,
but I will watch you.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I would love to come sit in the audience and
support you and cheer and be screaming for your hair
and for you, but no, mostly my hair, but mostly
your hair.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
No, I would absolutely be honored to come support you.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Okay, thank you so much. And I will bring I will.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Bring all of the kushlings I can find. Bring all
the cush lings and instead of roses, I'm gonna throw
kushlings at you when you do it, when you when
you have a great number.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Perfect yeah, yeah, fact, just aim low. I don't want
to get hit in the face with a cushlin.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
No, no, you'll have like four sets of lashes on.
We don't want to do that now, you'll just kind
of at the you know, at.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
The floor, per your feet, at my feet. I love it.
Thank you so much, Jodi. Always always a pleasure to
see you. Thank you so good to see you too, Danielle.
Thanks bye. Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by
Danielle Fischell. Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive
in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer
(54:10):
Tara Sudbasch. Theme song by Justin Siegel. Follow us on
Instagram at Danielle with Stars and vote for me
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Danielle Fishel
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