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March 4, 2024 67 mins

We have a date with the President’s daughter on Pod Meets World! Elisabeth Harnois is hanging out with Danielle, Will and Rider to look back on her role as Missy Robinson in “The Last Temptation of Cory,” along with appearances on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Charmed, and the most beloved DCOM you can’t stream anywhere!
 
Elisabeth reveals what it was like to have one of her first on-screen kisses with Cory, and details how Will Smith got everyone pumped up on the set of Fresh Prince (plus how one ‘90s star got everyone pumped for a double date)!
 
All this AND the story behind that iconic pink dress! Don’t miss out on this surreal ‘90s flashback…

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
So as we're recording this, you can tell behind you, Danielle,
that it is February twentieth.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
That's right, my mom's birthday official.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Happy birthday shout out.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We still have not exchanged our Christmas gifts.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I know.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
I'm sitting in my closet right now, as excited as
I am to see your expressions when I give you
your gifts.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I want my friend.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
So crazy, How do we.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Make this happen?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's been too much now getting bordering on ridiculous. Danielle
and I live ninety seconds from each other. I know
I can at least have half my presence today.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
I got you guys puppies, so I've been keeping these
dogs along.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
They are now dogs.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
They're no longer puppies.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We are.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
We got you a pony. You're dealing with two ponies.
They're both named Susie. Susie one Susie.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I've got so many grappling hooks in my closet for you. Writer.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
This is now.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I don't need getting ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So yeah, I want my presence, Okay, I mean the
annoying thing is that we've seen each other too, like
we've we've done photo shoots we've seen each other and
we just have it's like.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
We're going to do a night. We talked about doing
the Magic Cast Magic Cast, which one of our amazing
listeners sent us.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Invitation to the Magic Castle.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Magic will be me getting my presence.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think we should just exchange Christmas gifts and do
Magic Castle whenever we can, and not relate it to
Christmas and just actually exchange getting.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Over zoom and then just like mailed them to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Should we open each others Christmas gifts and then yours
was literally.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Right there because I have so many funny stories about
getting especially riders gifts.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I shopped for a rider entirely this year on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
What and you know.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That leads to so many random emails going is this
a scam?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Did I did? Are you not just gonna send me something?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Then actually getting it and going this was not the
size it looked like on the screen.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, there's you hear.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Me, grappling hook it's gonna be It's gonna be like
a doll sized grapplings. I saw it was a grappling hook,
but it was for Batman action figure. I had nothing
to do with.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Nominds me I ordered off of I don't know if
you guys have heard of the app t MoU t
e m you I have actually, Okay, so I ordered
off the mistake this thing that was like a giant
It's supposed to be like a phone booth and inside
like a like a lantern, but it's supposed to a
phone booth and there's snow and somebody standing inside of it,

(03:02):
and I was like, this is beautiful. Was around Christmas?
It arrived and it was yeah, it was an inch
and a half and I hung it on the tree.
It literally now an ornament.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Oh no. The best was you know, I was prepping
for like earthquake prep, and it was like, oh, you
should have a a crowbar by your bed, Like yeah,
everyone should have a crowbar by their bed. I was like, oh,
that's a good call, So I ordered a crowbar.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Of course, what am I going to do?

Speaker 5 (03:34):
I'm gonna get myself out of this.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Thing.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
This is the worst.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So yeah, that's kind of happened, TIMU. I think it
was the one that did all the big Super Bowl push,
didn't it.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Sue saw it popped on the screen and she went, yes,
that whole thing was a scam.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I know I did too. Here's what I'll tell you
is a scam. When you have the app and then
you haven't used it for a while and you open
it for some reason, it targets you with all of
these like here, spin this wheel and you'll get a
certain percentage off. By the way, you always get one
hundred percent off.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh that's so they're just mailing you free stuff basically.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
But then but then it takes forever. It's like you
spin the wheel in first, you get twenty percent off,
and they go, we're gonna do you a favor. Spin
it again, and I'm like, just do me this. I
know this routine now.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
I know it's the gambler.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I know which.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
By the way, Danielle, she's waking up. Much money would
take it out?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
How much money would take it out? She make gout
the wheel again?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Do you have a spinny wheel? A sty wheel? I could.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I just got a hat that says future lottery scratch
off winner, and it made me decide I'm going to
do one scratcher a day for a full year. Are
you really waste of money?

Speaker 5 (04:46):
I mean it's three hundred and sixty five dollars, so
that's not that big right here.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm not always going to only do one dollar.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Oh just do one dollar, please, just do one dollar.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Sometimes I'll do five. Sometimes I'm even gonna do ten.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Here's her husband of this podcast, Jensen needs step in. No,
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I you know what, I'm gonna start it. I think
I'll leapier day because it's an extra.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's the light days right now is not cool?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Oh god, it's like Rider talking about Proost.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Have you seen that amazing video? The amazing video of
the guy. I think he's from Australia. He won three
hundred thousand dollars in the scratch off, and the local
news brought him to the store to recreate him doing it,
and on camera as he was recreating it, he won
five hundred grand in the scratch off.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
What yeh got to be kidding.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So they're like, we want to recreate it. So he's like,
I was here, I scratched off. And then you just
see him and he goes, I won five hundred thousand,
Like that's great. He's like, no, I really just won
five hundred and so.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Won eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm like eight hundred grand in two streets.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You still think it's a bad idea. Still think it's
a bad idea, writer, I still think it's a bad idea. Yes,
what if I win thousand dollars?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Look at you, Danielle. I haven't seen you this animated ever.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
I know.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
We're like, hey, I just had kids.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I watched the Super Wow. I watched the Super Bowl
and it was in Vegas, and I was like, oh,
it's calling me.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
I hear Vegas. What part of the Super Bowl made
you think of Vegas? Besides the Vegas Vegas.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
They showed the exterior and I was like, look, I
wanted there.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I was just telling the story the other day about
us being in Vegas and Jensen. All Jensen wanted to
see was the sphere. Just wanted to see the sphere,
and we didn't see it the entire time we're there.
The plane takes off, it banks around as if it's
circling the sphere, like, oh man, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
We land.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm like, you saw it, right, He's like, so what
He never looked to the left, and it was.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Like, Oh, you've got to be kidding.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh, I see. We got to go back anyway, Welcome
to Pond Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishle, I'm Render Strong,
and I want my gifts.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm Wilford.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Over the past year, we have traveled the United States
with one stop in Canada on tour for this here podcast,
and there were a few things we could guarantee what
happen at every stop. Ryder would have friends. In any city,
Will would be tasked to take a picture of me
and a fan from Boy Meets World, and the mere
mention of the movie my date with the President's daughter

(07:20):
will create an instant standing ovation. We've watched the popularity
of this dcom vehicle for Will and this week's guest
go from a few scattered claps to a pure chaotic
moment of nostalgia over the last few months. And keep
in mind the movie isn't even legally streaming anywhere and
the version on YouTube looks like it was filmed in
a cave. So when his co star also popped up

(07:43):
on the season three Boy Meets World standout episode, the
Last Temptation of Corey, we knew we had to get
hurt on the podcast. She broke on the scene as
a six year old in Disney's One Magic Christmas. Then
as a teenage Alice in the company's live action puppet
musical Adventures in Wonderland, she'd end up with a yearances
on Highway to Heaven. Unhappily ever after Fresh Prince of
bel Air, charmed Criminal Minds, One Tree Hill, and most

(08:06):
notably as Morgan Brody on three seasons aka over eighty
episodes of CSI. But today we're focusing on the one
episode of a Tgia family sitcom where she fools the
lead character into coming to her house and then corners
him in a closet to make out with him. And
we're going to talk a little bit about that President's
Daughter movie too. Let's welcome to Pod meets World. Elizabeth Harnwaugh.

(08:40):
There she is, all how are you you?

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm so good.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You look fantastic. What glorious hair you have?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Thank you? It's all mine.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Actually I love it.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
So we like to start off with these episodes asking
about your Hollywood origin story. Now, you had an earlier
start than most. Tell us how did you end up
getting into the business at five years old.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think my parents kind of saw in me a
very outgoing, performative child. I was. Actually I would memorize commercials.
I would perform for them just without being asked, and
they were like, let's channel this energy. I also probably
think I had undiagnosed adds, so all that energy was

(09:30):
but they wanted to channel that energy into something that
clearly was my interest, and so they they just took
a chance. They'd called SAG and got a list of agents.
The first agent we went into was actually a really
reputable agency that's no longer he passed away years ago,
but I got signed on that like fluke meeting with

(09:51):
just a little like what do they call them comp
cards or like we're oh yeah, And it all just
happened very fast, Like the first a dish and I did,
I booked, which was just unheard of. It was a
was it the movie or the Hunt commercial? I believe
it was that where the Children the first movie that
I did.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Okay, and so yeah, I just worked.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It just kind of happened really really fast, and they
literally just went through. You know, I guess my dad,
being he grew up in southern California, so he kind
of understood a little bit about the industry from Michigan
and had no idea, and I think just him, you know,
growing up in around Los Angeles, he kind of knew
how to who to call and how to approach it.

(10:35):
But none of my family is in the industry at all.
They just kind of figured it out.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Unbelievable. It's amazing how many people we have talked to
whose families had absolutely no connection to the industry at all,
and how people just figure it out. My mom read
a book to get the list of agents your parents
called SAG. It's so interesting how that works out.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, because most people, like when you come from a
you know, a small town or or Middle America or
just not from a big city, people just think they
just automatically think it's so out of reach, and.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
They just don't understand, like it actually isn't that hard.
You just seek the information and yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So wow, yeah you and you went to high school
in Marino Valley.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Right, Yeah, I went to high school Marino Valley, which
was actually really nice too. Like my school experiences were
really nice, except for the occasional like you know, kid
who was rude or mean because of what I was
doing extra curricularly. But I have to say, mostly I
was blessed, Like I was mostly very much supportive by

(11:36):
my friends, so that was cool. I also kind of
ran with like a lot of theory people, So well.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's actually exactly what I wanted to ask you, Like,
did you have two separate groups of friends? Did you
have like your actor group friends, your actor group of
friends and then your high school friends. Did the two
ever intermingle?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah? I mean so it wasn't until I I was
about like maybe fIF fifteen. Privately, I think I was
about fifteen when I did. When It's Worlds, I have
to do the dates. But but up unto But like,
up until that point, like not a lot because I

(12:15):
was on a show that was just me as the
only child, and all the other characters were adults, and
so I was a little that was a little alienating.
And it wasn't until I started to get into my
teens that I broke into having some la friends and
feeling that vibe going on little dates with actor boys.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
And yes, I want to know who and tell me
about the date, Thomas, did you?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
The only one I can say that it happened a
little bit was Matthew Lawrence. After I did Brotherly.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Love, Oh Love, and.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
My friend Rebecca Herbs, she was going out with Joey.
She was a little older than me and she was
hooking up with Joey, and so she was and we
were good friends, and she was like and then the
Matthew thing happened. It was very cute. It was very like,
we're going out with the brotherly love brothers.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's so fun when that happens. Girlfriends, Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah. Yeah, but having stuff with groups of friends definitely,
I mean absolutely absolutely. Once it started happening, was I
tried my best to try integrate every now, like a
couple of my best friends I would bring into the
world of you know, my work, and they were always
cool and we could do it. But you know, Maria
Valley is an hour, like two hours outside of Los Angeles, right,

(13:47):
and that's where I went to high school.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
So did you did you go to college in Connecticut? Yes,
that's okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
You went to Wesleyan, right, Yeah, So that's what my
parents when I told them the last time that you
and I had spoken, they were.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like, oh, oh, we miss her. She went to school
in Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Like they remember that instantly that you had gone to
college in Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Just being Connecticut So that's what we remember back in
Connecticut is other people who've been.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Proud to Like I wanted to go to the East Coast.
I was like, I need that cold college. I want seasons,
and it was like either NYU. Like I applied to
Yale and got waylisted and Wesleyan was actually my first choice.
But yeah, that was the best time in my life. Honestly,
I'm so glad I left and went and did that.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
Some of the best people I haven't learned, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
It was just a good experience.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Is that in Middletown, Middletown, Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It is Middletown, Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So the one day I had a real job was
directly across the street from the Wesleyan campus.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I worked at a motorcycle shop for one day, one day,
one day, and.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I sold two lawnmowers. I was very proud of myself,
and that was right. That's how I know Middletown's right.
I did the motorcycle shop because it had like all
kind of it was a Honda shop, so it had
like bike Yes, uh.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Maybe maybe that's why you only worked there one day.
Are you even legally allowed to be working at.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Fourteen legal what's illegal? Come on?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
For Will what's legal?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
He had a fake ID. He was telling them he
was eighteen.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I wanted to sell lownmowers. I had to start my
career Middletown, Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yep, great, did you just not show up for day tour?
Did they fire you?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It was I was The guy was a client of
my dad, so he allowed me to work at the
shop one day, like I helped out one day. Were yeah, yes,
and and it was kind of like, all right, let's
see what the kid can do.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
And he was like, you sold two lawnmowers. I was like, yep,
sure did. Yep, it's became So I'm in Philly, I'm
from I'm from these coasts.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Son, So we're southern.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Southern down there on the East coast.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Son. So One Magic Christmas was your first project with Disney,
which is a company you would become somewhat synonymous with
for most of your childhood. It starred Mary Stean Virgin
and Harry Dean Stanton, who are two actors who have
totally different reputations on sets. What do you remember about

(16:19):
filming this as your first big job?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
It was incredible. I have to say it was incredible.
I mean I was kind of in awe the whole time.
I was very young, still acting from a place of
complete just it's some of the I joke about this
all the time, like it's probably some of my best acting.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And how old were you?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I was only five, But it's like one of those
things like when at that age the lines of blurring,
the lines blur between reality and what you're doing and
you can really get into It's just everything is so natural. Literally,
when I go back and watch that, I'm like, I
got to get back to that place, you know what
I mean. It was.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
And also working with Mary Ce Murgin was very very
nurturing and motherly to me, and we've we've remained friends.
I ended up going to Wesley with her daughter. Like
we had some weird connections that brought us back together
working with Ted Danson on CSI, you know, so there
was like all these kept us in each other's life.
But you know, she and I she was just great
to me. But Harry Dean, it was a very funny

(17:23):
experience working with Harry Dean because not only was he
the sweetest man, but he wasn't always sober, so we
would be doing scenes and I hate to I don't
think this is an unknown fact, So I don't think
I'm putting something out there that's bad.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
No, it's pretty well known.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm like but as a child, for me,
it was just kind of like, well, he's just kind
of a funny guy's talks kind of slow sometimes and
sometimes like I would get it would make fun of
me and him because I'd be doing a scene with
him and I'd be waiting for him to say his line,
but he couldn't be like searching and searching and searching,
and then finally I would It would be on my
back and I because when it was not on my coverage,

(18:01):
I was whispering his life get through the scene, like
I have very very clear memories of doing this and
he and then one time he went, I know he
got so bad.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I know, Elizabeth so funny. I mean in a way
if you know, it's that's the cutest thing ever, like
and actually very helpful. If I were ever in those
shoes and a five year old was whispering my lines
to me and honestly keep it coming, thank you, Just
tell me what I'm supposed to say, but of course
it feels a little insulting when you have a five

(18:38):
year old who knows all your lines.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, But actually both of them were, in their own way,
very good to me. I have very good memories bringing
and the director was. He's a very well respected, you know,
Canadian director, beloved Canadian director. I'm sad he's not with
us anymore, but he was great too. He just knew
how to make every feel very much like we were

(19:01):
in a real family, and it made it fun. It
made not feel like work like that movie. I actually
had more to do than my first movie, and so
it was a lot more work and I was just
learning about what that meant, and it didn't feel like work.
It just felt like fun, except for when we were
like in the snow for hours and I was freezing,
But you.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
Know, yeah, that was fine.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Kids are the joys of Christmas movies.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, before you ended up on Boy Meets World, you
made a stop on Fresh Prince of bel Air as
Stephie during a time when a young Will Smith was
just entering mainstream culture. What do you remember about working
with Will before he went off to become a massive
movie star.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
So I got that job. I mean I auditioned, but
they kind of just read me because the producers didn't
know me. The director knew me. He directed a lot
of Adventures in Wonderland. Belly Jensen was his name, and
so I was super excited because I was a fan
of the show. I was like, I want to do
it absolutely, But the problem was that the character had

(20:03):
to be kind of sexy, and my mom was still
very much holding onto me not being any of those
things at all.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
To write, Yes, how old were you?

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I was fifteen for that, I think fourteen, or I
might have been. Yeah, I was about fourteen or fifteen,
but I was starting to get, you know, grow things,
and things were growing in and I was, you know,
things like that. And there was a scene where I
had to be in a bathing suit. It's supposed to
be like a very sexy bikini, and the whole joke
is just that, like, I'm this neighbor, this young neighbor
who just keeps coming through their house, you know, coming

(20:37):
to their parties, and they're like, oh, she's so hat
but that's so not okay, you know. Well, my mom
was like, she's not wearing a sexy bikini. And and
just Shelly was like, I really need I really want
you for this part. I want you to do this,
but this is like an important thing. And they compromised
on this bathing suit that was so hideous, and I

(20:57):
had to sell it with my performance in the way
that I walk and everything with the attitude more than
the actual revealing nature of the outfit, because it was
like it looked like, you know, like how toddlers have
like a little like sports broad top and high waisted
bikini bottom as their bathing suits. That's what I.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Not, not, you know, right, not what you would think
of when you think it was the storyline.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Got it, Everything went fine. One of my biggest memories
about doing Fresh Prints and working with Will. He was
very in that, you know, he knew he was coming up,
he knew he was becoming a big star. He knew it,
and he was a really very sweet person, very good
to me. He knew, you know, he was he loved
Shelley the directors, and he knew that I came through Shelley,

(21:44):
so he was very good to me. But before each show,
he would bring everybody into his dressing room and the
way he hyped everybody up for the show is. He
would like we were all crammed in like sardines, and
he would play his music so loud and jump up
and down, jump up and down, jump up, and everybody
had to jump up his house.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
How we got like no, wait, wait a minute, wait,
his songs like his actual music that.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
I want to start doing this now. I want to.
I want to. I want to bring you guys into
my dress and you and play my music.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So no, no, I want you to bring us into
your room. This will hold on. If it were writer
doing it, he would bring us into his room and
read us his poetry, his poetry. Would have to jump
up and down.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Oh that's kind of brilliant. You've got it. You play
your own music, going to ump everybody up.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Oh, I mean that's not the only time that happens.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Also, tell me every time.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I started to record his music and he was like
trying to do music. When we were on our first day,
we were all in this giant escalator something.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You need you to say it one more time? Who
was it?

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Joey Lawrence. He was blasting his own music in the
car and my friend and I were sitting in the
back seat just like the.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Best wait, is this when you guys?

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Is this when you and your friend had a couple
of dates?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, oh my gosh, on a date, you guys, you're
in the car with Matt.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Honestly, wow, it's just all those kind of moments, like
I understand it, Like I have friends who are musicians,
and obviously they want you to sit and listen. Actually,
in a car is the best place to listen in
terms of when you're mixing and finalizing the way it sounds.
But it wasn't that. That's not what was happening. Just
funny truck, let's listen whatever. I have no negatives about it.

(23:52):
It was just occasions. The Freshmriance thing too was me.
I was just like, whoa, this is like a level
of self hyps love or like self love. I've never
seen this before.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I really love those stories. And now we're gonna have
to hype ourselves up for our podcast live tours listening
to our podcast, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Guess them over and over the podcast I was talking.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
But it's not just us.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
We have to bring the whole crew and the set
and the sound stage and everybody together, Like here, we
need to check in.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Are you guys recording you guys, you guys recording on
your own recording.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Do we have any ads to No?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh my gosh, Elizabeth, you you were music mattered to
you though, because you're I mean, I imagine you still are.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
But you were a pretty terrific singer.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do you still sing and did you start early in
your career singing as well or was that late? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I mean, you know, singing. I just kind of started
singing as a little tiny girl, like I would. I
have all these pictures that my grandparents had around their
house of me like standing up either at like my
great grandmother's nursing home, were like at like three years old,
like getting up with a mic in. I guess I
just had a little vibrato or something naturally as a child.
And then so my mom was like, oh, you know,

(25:11):
I want more, and she was always asking me to sing,
and so I just then you know, in church, the
church choir, K.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
So I came up in music a lot, I think,
especially in church. Like I was in the kids choir
in church, and they were giving me all the solos
and stuff, and honestly I didn't train for it until
like I didn't actually think about technique and singing in
any of that until I was after I had done
Adventures in Wonderland, which I sang on like the entire time.
But that's where I met the vocal coach that I

(25:45):
ended up working with for years after, and she kind
of got me all the tools, get rid of the
crack and you know all that stuff. I was probably
around the time that I was. I had coached with her,
around the time that we went to do karaoke, like.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Oh really, when you go at that, you crushed it
at that karaoke. I, on the other hand, was not
signed to any label after that. I did both parts
of I Got You Babe, which is my karaoke.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Go to I Got You Babe as your karaoke.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Go yeah again both That's what I did.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
On Boy Me World. You realize that, right, we did
the karaoke watched that.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
No, No, okay, no, I've been doing I Got You
Babe since back in the day.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
And I do the Oh I Got you I'll do
my own voice.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh no, I can't sing you sonny.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Hell yes, I do Sonny and chair that's that's clever.
So so you make it a bit well, No.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I sing my heart out as you're supposed to do.
I just happened to do both roles because of Persatal Rider.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
What did you sing, Elizabeth?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
You remember yep? You sung blue yea, And we came
out of the boot.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I came out of the booth and I had the
smile on my face because the engineer was there. You know,
there's all these separate who were in Toronto, and so
the I come out and you go and they make
you like your tape so you can keep your tape, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
And I said, I was like, this was like a
make an album cut.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, but like when you're still it's karaoke, it's still
on the screen in front of you.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
But they recorded and and you get your tape.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And so I came out and I was like, hey, bro,
I'm gonna need that tape because I got a meeting
with RCA next week. And he's just transfixed. He got
headphones on and he's transfixed. And I'm like, I knew
I was good, but this is a little too much.
And he's like, the girl in booth two is killing
it right now. Of course it was Elizabeth singing blue,

(27:38):
So yeah, he was like, I might make other copies.
I was like, I don't know if you're allowed to
do that. Yeah, but they she distinctly remember that. Yeah,
you crushed that song.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah, it's actually after Mark mothersbaw Mark. You know who
Mark mothers vaws from. Yes, I did Adventures. He was
the music supervisor for Adventures in Wonderland and he wanted
to work with me and develop me as a as
a recording artist. At that time, my mom was not
ready for me to go and be like a pop star.
She was like, no, we'll wait, and then, you know,

(28:13):
the moment passed. I do kind of regret that that
I didn't get the opportunity to well, you know, my
mom was very protective and both of my parents and understandably.
I mean I don't I have no problem with them
being that.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Way, but yeah, protective.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
But I was real ready when I was eighteen. We like,
he knows, he knows. That's when we worked together, right
after I sign my uncle contracts.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I yeah, you mentioned a couple of times Adventures in Wonderland,
So I wanted to talk about that because it was
a puppet show for Disney based on Alice in Wonderland.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Right, it wasn't a puppet show. It was basically a
live action. It was a bunch of Broadway actors playing
you know, all the Wonderland characters, and I played Alice.
And it was basically a learning show. It was developed
to be an educational show, both socially educational like social consciousness,
but also spelling and you know, grammar and things like that.

(29:24):
And they did it in a very sort of subtle
way where kids didn't realize they were learning great about it.
And it was also very funny so the adults could
watch it too, and it was a musical show. We
did two episodes a week. I worked six days for
two years straight.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, that was a hard time. It was a blast.
It was like it was like hardcore training for like,
you know, it was like being on Broadway or something
as a child, because I guess on Broadway they do
probably six days a week as well. They probably alternate children,
though I don't know.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
I was the only child.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
But it was hard, but it was great and I
won a bunch of Emmys, you know for different things,
you know, for educational show and things like that. So
it's a really great thing to be a part and
it has such a cult following now it's like people
who grew up watching it. There are there's like a
little cult following for it, like there's it's still in

(30:18):
the in the consciousness and it's on Disney Plus. Actually,
so oh how fun it looks? Really it was shot
on video, so it looks fabulous.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
But yeah, wow, so does Boy Meets World? Let me
tell you?

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah great standard death.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah so weird.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Speaking of Boy Meets World, do you remember auditioning and
had you seen the show at all before you auditioned
for Boy Meets World?

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Of course I did. I was a fan of the show.
I don't remember my audition. I'm sure that I did.
Obviously I auditioned, But I what I remember about it
was being a little bit intimidated because I just thought like, oh,
this cast is going to be like real cool and like,

(31:01):
you know, in their own little clicks and everything, and.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Always a concern when you're a guest star.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah yeah, and with young people, especially, like because kids
be mean and after kids can be bratty and mean,
and you guys were nothing like that. It was very welcoming.
I remember you Danielle were like we had no scenes together,
I know, but you were so sweet to me, and
I remember because I just wanted I thought you were
the cutest human being in the world. I was like,

(31:27):
she's adorable, so pretty, and and I was like, we
were leaving after rehearsal. You were on set. We were
I don't know why you we were there at the
same time, and we were walking out. We'd hung out
a little bit, but you like, I was like, oh,
you're so cute. I was like putting my armor and
you're like hugged me around my waist and you're like,
I love you.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Nobody fakes sincerity like Danielle.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, you two are the worst. What did you say?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I said, fake sincerity like Danelle? And she really it makes.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
You feel special in the fakest way. It's so, it's.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Just meanwhile, just a couple of weeks ago, writers saying,
do you remember that very sweet gift you went way
out of your way to get for me as a teenager?
And now here we are, And also add a writer,
I've got Adam Scott on the other line. He'd like
to have a word with you.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
If I just hugged him back and as none of you,
it would have been fine.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Wow, I love it.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Oh, I didn't care if it was make sincerity for me.
It was just like, great, they're not being mean.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, it's actually real sincerity from Danielle. Daniel was always
very sweet.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
Didn't feel fake, it wasn't fake.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I was also, by the way, regularly the only girl
on set for any extended period of time. So there
were always guest star girls that would come, you know,
come onto the set, but they were usually you know,
they were there for a week, and so when they
were there, I was always happy to have like a
female friend. Writer was off sulking.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I would thinking about it, like just me growing doing
the show with all the adults, Like I wonder what
it was like for Danielle to be just have the
three boys all the time.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Well, Will wasn't in school with us, so I didn't
get to spend a lot of time with Will. Although
we were friendly, we weren't like but it was like
a little sister older brother kind of thing exactly. And
it was like, you know, we'd see each other for
run throughs, and you know, in between or at the commissary,
we would eat dinner together and stuff like that. And Writer,
who I loved and was truly one of my closest friends,

(33:42):
was regularly moody and preoccupied with his I just wouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
A photo shoots with you. If I'd been a little
bit more like Andrew Keegan, we could have had we
could have so many photos together Instead.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
You'd be surprised to know, writer, I have a lot
of picture with you. You took quite a few pictures
you participated in my photo shoots. Well, I'm glad that
you by the way, oh thank you. I'm glad that
we made you feel welcome and that you you felt
like you were welcomed there and had a warm set
to be on, because there is truly nothing worse than

(34:16):
the anxiety you feel going as a guest star on
a show where you know everyone's going to have their clicks.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
It was a big episode for you too, I mean,
really was that entire episode.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It's a funny funny things about that, that that whole experience.
I think I probably lost a few fans playing that
role because the girl who I mean. People came up
to me after that aired and were like, I just
like you, but I don't like you now because you you, you.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Know, try to take Corey. You tempted Corey, and I was.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Very like assaulting in that episode, like, yeah, I'm very
like when I watched it, it's so weird in the
present time to watch these things again and just go wow,
that just seemed fine, like normal, and the way they
directed it, they kind of they were telling me that,
I think because they wanted to keep that balance of
like he's not fully at fault or something, so they

(35:09):
definitely like urged me to be even more.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Like, yeah, commaradingreditory. No, you're right, I mean, and we
are watching you know, yes, it's pretty aggressive, and I
think in our recap we called it out because then
later Corey doesn't say, you know, she kissed me. He says,
you know, I kissed her, and it's like wait, wait, wait,
I really, to be fair, you kind of were assaulted.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, I mean it is that that. I think that
that was like a gray area. At least when I
watched it back, I felt like the fact that he.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Allowed it to like didn't leave.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I feel like I was like holding his head to
my face. He did actually happened, and he was like
whoa at the end of it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So yeah, they did set up your character though, to
really be wearing a leather jacket in high school.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, Al fast girl.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's how they differentiated on on boying me thirled if
you're in a leather jacket?

Speaker 7 (36:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Do you remember that kissing scene? Do you remember, like
was that one of how had you done a bunch
of other kissing scenes before that or was this one
of your first?

Speaker 4 (36:15):
This was one of my first? Probably, I think I
did like one other one when I was like probably
around that scene, like that same year. I don't know
which one came first. That was probably one of my
first ones.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, how did your mom feel about those kissing scenes?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Oh, she's fine. She wasn't like puritanical or anything. She
just you know, didn't want me to get sexualized too early. Yeah, so,
I mean that's her big thing. That's why she was
afraid to get let me get into the music industry
too early. Like I was only thirteen when that was
starting to happen, So you know, she just didn't want
me to get sexuliced early. But things like kissing, you know,

(36:52):
that was fine. And actually he had really like puffy,
sweet little lips.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Oh I love that you cant lips?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I mean you're asking you back, what do I remember
at the kiss? Like he did have like that was
what it felt like, very pillowy, pillowy lips.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Great. And then so you don't have any scenes with
Will in Boy Meets World, but then you end up
with this little comedic genius in My Date with the
President's Daughter. When did you realize this? This movie has
a cult.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Following, probably like a couple a couple of years ago,
probably two years ago. I mean, first of all, throughout
my whole since we did it, anytime it aired, I
mean I got recognized for that movie more than anything
I'd ever done.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
And so it was because they would rerun it and
it would just that, Yeah, people recorded it, they watched
it again. It was just like a favorite for some reason.
So throughout my whole career I knew that it had
some sort of special following. But in the last two years,
some young people who were nannying for a friend of
mine were like, oh my god, you're the girl from

(38:18):
My Day with President's Daughter. And they were like easily
like twenty one or twenty two, and they were like,
I'm like, you know that movie like you were born,
and they were like, oh my god, we love it.
You're if you if you were to do a TikTok
right now, Like you're actually trending on TikTok right now.
The pink dress was like the to die for thing,

(38:41):
and so I guess it was trending because of the
dress and because of a clip, the clip of me
coming out of you know, the clip of me coming
out of the dressing room when we go shopping.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, and they take your hair down and I'm like, yeah,
big hair.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Movie, big hair movie.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Youtwoe, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
We had.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It was a big hair movie all the way around.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah, yeah, we didn't. We have a hair off. Yeah,
we had a hair off.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I think we had a hair off. And you won obviously.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
But now the only question going through my head is
are my lips pillowy?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Your? Your lips were so great?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, good.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I'm just making sure that because I mean, I think
you know.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
What I think it was. Maybe that's just a heightened
sense memory with when it comes to Sures then, because
it was really one of the first kisses, it's probably
just a heightened sense.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
What she's saying is she has no memory of yours exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I think that's a Hey, I'm fine with that. I
want to be forgotten. When it comes to relationships, I'm
okay with just forget I was ever part of it.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
That's fine with that. Forget we ever kissed. Just forget
it right.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
No, No, you were great though you I mean, but
we had fun, good friends.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, we had a ton of I mean it was
the ninety percent of that movie was just you and
I together, running around, running around, So it was I mean,
we had a ton of fun shooting that. And like Trojan,
I mean, this was a movie that the vast majority
of it was shot, was supposed to take place in
one night, so it's you know, we're out there three
o'clock in the morning in the streets of Toronto most
nights for a month. And yeah, we bonded. We had

(40:12):
we really did. We had a We had a ton
of fun doing that together.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
I've never seen this movie. Do you guys? Do you
do you end up together?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
How's how's how's it working?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I don't want to ruin it for you rider if
you've spoiler alert, so it's all one crazy date is watching.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
The quality of it will be not great because it's
I think they see it as YouTube. But if you
want to, you know, take the piss a little bit
out of either this in the future or just watch it.
That the value in watching it. But it's an enjoyable film.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I really, I do think we still need to do
a pod meets World My Day with the President's daughter rewatch.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Okay, we did it on Magical rewind.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
But I know you already did it, but we would.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Love to do that as well. I think we should.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I would love that.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I think Rider needs to see it.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, you can be there, please, You're going to be
there as well.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, we had fun. I mean it was it was.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's like, you know, this kid makes a bet with
his friends that he can bring a date to the
to the dance, and meanwhile, the president's daughter keeps sneaking
away from her secret Service because she's not allowed to
have any life, and the President's Dabney Coleman.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Her life is so repressed that she desperately wants Yeah,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's like writer sneaking away from his Disneyland guide.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Correct, the president I might really relate to this.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
You would be my film, and why they're so expensive.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
He didn't have to pay for it.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
A writer did, just didn't appreciate.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I think that his guide is literally still sitting outside
of the hard Rock Cafe hoping that he's okay.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Now, we had fun. We had fun doing that movie.
It was it was ninety seven, ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Nice ninety a thing, well one of those years.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, And it has been confirmed by Elizabeth herself that
I did indeed audition.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
You did I have you audition for my favorite song?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I apparently did, And I have no memory of it,
but that's not surprising to anyone who's listened to this
podcast at all. I have a very bad memory, and
I just can't believe that, Like, did Will already have
the part? Were they really thinking about putting Will and
Me in a movie together?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Where?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Will?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Did you audition or or did they just give it
to you me?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I think I went in and read once, but I
think it was kind of a foregone conclusion that I
was going to do it. But I could that that
could be wrong. I mean, when I went and met
Alex alexand who's the director.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Of the film.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
When I walked in, you know, they obviously wanted the
synergy of of somebody on that that was already on
ABC because this was a wonderful world A Disney which
is going to be ABC.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
So I'm I.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Definitely read, but I think it was more like a
meeting reading than it was waiting with a bunch of
people in the in the waiting room kind of thing.
But yeah, I think I was cast first because Elizabeth
did we read together?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I think so didn't.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Wait.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I'm glad I'm not the only one with a bad memory.
It makes me feel a lot better about it.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
He reminded me of so many things that happened on
this set. When we did our for his other podcast,
I was like, oh my god, I forgot about dh
Pell I forgot about so don't feel bad. I do
remember that it was a very like energy driven audition,
like there was a lot of physicality and like sort
of but it might have not been you.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I can't I can't remember if we did either.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, but what I told them when he asked me
on his other podcast was that when I was walking in,
you were literally leaving the audition room, and I was like,
oh my god, she's probably gonna get it. She's so great.
That's what I'm thinking in my head. But then I went, wait,
why would they have her playing the romantic opposite of
somebody who's on the same show. So I was thinking
the same things. I was sort of like, maybe maybe

(43:50):
that's not going to happen. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, No, we're also under age, weren't you, Danielle.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, well, if you filmed it in ninety seven, I
was no more than sixteen. I will turn sixteen in
May of that year, so.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, there would have been a lot of creepiness that
would have been involved.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Well, you were also horrible.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
I mean that's true.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Probably, I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
The role until I went I'm not working with her.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
That's so that's very likely. So you're probably right. I
wasn't good.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
That audition.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Were at the final audio. You were in the final like,
you were like one of the final people, so that.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
God, you probably went back multiple times. Danielle, And you
have no idea, you know, memory too busy doing a
photo shoot Andrew in the parking.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Lot out here. I could be driving snick Shift with
Andy outside, and you.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Remember this audition as well as Elizabeth remembers kissing me.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
I rememberbulous.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Oh see, well that she's Danielle faking it.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
She remembers Danielle hugging her more than she.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
It was the feel of my arms around her.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Ways, it was that thinks sincerity was way betters.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I buy that.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
God, Oh my gosh, well fair.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
They also wouldn't let us have like a very like
crazy kiss, so it was a very delicate.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Sweep we did, and we were like very far apart
from each other, and we did the hip thing where
we like moved in awkwardly to kid and I can't wait.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
To see this movie. Oh yeah, I cannot wait to
see this movie.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I know I want to watch.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I think you pointed out and I think you're right
that they had us each standing on marks that they
didn't need to leap because of the green screen where
the Lincoln memorials behind us and the reflecting pools in
front of us.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
So it was probably like you know, nineties green screens.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Was like, don't move, just stay in and kiss each other,
and then we do this weird, awkward sixth grade hug
to end the date.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
It was very yeah, very strange.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
It was really awkward that part. I was like, why
didn't you just stay in the closer show that?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah right?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And yeah, and have Halle assault Duncan the way that
you assaulted ben On.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I'm boyant squirrel.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Right, that's what I wanted to do, but they wouldn't
because she kept asking for that.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So it would be a true crime if we did
not talk about the pink dress, which, by the way,
someone online said, is this generation's Marilyn Monroe white dress
standing over the drafted grate?

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yes, that was said online. I don't have their username.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
But it was said, did you so amazing?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Isn't it great? I know what a compliment. Did you
know when you when you tried it on, when you
wore it, did you know that it would become memorable?
Did you think, like this dress is going to make
a mark?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
No, that's absolutely not. I've told this story a couple
of times because the dress has been a part of
my interviews a lot.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
And yeah, reality is.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
I when I was first given the dress to try on,
I was very self conscious in it. It was I
had not yet played a role where I was playing,
like doing something that's sexy, and I was very kind
of uh self, just self conscious. I thought I looked
you know, the crazy minds we had when we were young.
I thought I looked fat in it. You know, that's

(47:20):
just the crazy things that girls were made to feel back.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
Then, and but so I.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Was kind of not wanting to wear and I tried
to get out. I was like, what else do we have?
And she's like, I'll we tried on other things and
she was like, no, this is it. She's like this
is it. Everybody is loving this. I'm like okay. So
I had to wear it, and then by like you know,
day three, I was like, no, I actually kind of
like this. I'm starting it just I just had to
feel myself in it and be like I can wear

(47:48):
a spandex mini dress, sure, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
But we were like climbing stuff and jumping in and
out of cars and you were in a super short skirt,
as were and I'm like behind you, like right behind
yours were sneaking out of things, and it.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Was very funny.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
It was yeah, it was did you wear bike shorts?
Like do you remember did you wear stuff under it?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Okay, shirts for sure, and yeah, because we were climbing
ladders and everything. But in terms of the dress becoming popular,
like that was one of the things that early on,
I think when I started to get recognized and people
would actually talk about the dress even then, and I've
had been interviewed by like fashion you know, websites and

(48:35):
magazines and stuff about that dress, just like it really is,
Like I, it's just one of those things you never think,
like some you realize how important good wardrobe is when
when something like that happens, and how it can really
just that it drew more attention to the entire film
and it was just you know, which is kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well I can, I can obviously so very relate to
all the things you were saying about the way you
felt when you put the dress on, and all of
the insecurity you felt. But I hope that all these
years later, you're able to look back and see very
clearly now that truthfully what got all of the attention
is not even it's not the dress. It's truthfully, the

(49:16):
way you brought the dress to life. Your body in
that dress is what made that dress so spectacular. So
I hope that you know, when you look back on it,
you don't think, wow, crazy that this little flimsy piece
of pink fabric was so noteworthy. What has been the
reason it's noteworthy is truly because of you and your

(49:37):
beauty and what you how you embodied it. You brought
the dress to life. So it's truly a testament to
you and the way you carried it, more so than
any piece of fabric.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Well, thank you very much. Wow, that's very sweet.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's the truth.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
She fakes sincerity better than anybody else.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
So believable. I really felt it. I bought that all
the way, honestly.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
What doesn't do too.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
What I was thinking is how great it is that
Danielle can say that, because like, imagine a guy saying like,
like we I I cannot say like your body and
that direct like do you know what I mean? Like,
but Danielle saying it. Actually, it's a really great sentiment,
totally phenomenal, beautiful and and yeah it's a it's a.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
It was really nice, Danielle. I could not say that.
You know, we can't talk about your body here.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
We couldn't be like you wear it your body.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You know, it was your body.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
It wasn't just a you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Oh, it's terrible, these two. You see what I have
to deal with every day. My gosh, dynamic, it's awesome.
I know my cheeks, ahret this vin in my forehead
is pop it out. I can't control it.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Danielle it's not the vein, it's how you wear it.
That's it's.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
Oh my gosh, he know seriously, Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
It seems like the dynamics of the show Charmed have
been dissected on social media non stop for the last month.
I know you guest starred on the show as Brooke
in an episode called Magic Hour. What was your experience
on Charmed? What was your what was your day to
day like on set?

Speaker 4 (51:43):
So Charmed was good. It was actually really good. Alyssa
Milana was a sweetheart to me, Like she really like
took me under her wing and lost a lot of
my stuff was with her too, so that was helpful.
But definitely as a young person, I sensed the tension
on the set, like it was the others. The other

(52:05):
two were very were nice to me, but like not
as effusively kind as Alyssa was, And they were always
off in their own space and she would sit all
the way on the other side of the set by herself,
and like there was a major divide on that set
even back then, Like and I don't think that was
that long into the show. It was like only a
couple of seasons into the show, So I don't know Yeah,

(52:27):
it was. That part was interesting because I hadn't really
ever I was young. I hadn't really ever witnessed anything
like that on a set where people like really aren't hiding,
not liking each other, and I don't know enough about
what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But interesting that it that it could be felt.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
But I felt a me.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I remember when we're doing scenes. I felt like, you know,
when you're trying to be natural and being the scenes
and it was all three of us I did. My
stomach was tight like the whole time. I felt like
when cut is called and it would just be like wow,
and that effects the fifth wheel on the scene, the person,
It affects the whole you know, it feels icky. So

(53:10):
totally in terms of how I was true to it
was great, but just being in that energy was was strange.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's time.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yeah, I got to hold a baby owl. I real
liked that episode and that was probably the coolest part
of Baby Owl was just like looking up.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
At me and ye until you find out that the
owl did not get along with anybody on the caste. Yeah,
your line is who I know?

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I know? Oh my god, sorry, so funny those things.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
But anyway, can we talk a little bit about cus I,
because every time that I mentioned that you were coming
on the last podcast, this podcast, my wife Susan is like,
oh my God, tell her again how much I loved
her on CSI.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
So this is you came on to like a juggernaut
of a show. What season did you join?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
So that whole experience happened because I had done a
I forget it was like season ten or eleven, okay, yeah,
and I had basically been off just offered that part
off of doing a show that was very short lived
that Bruckheimer also produced called Miami Medical, and they just

(54:40):
really liked me on that show and they were sad
that it didn't go. And I remember he called me
up directly after that and was like, just you know,
we want to work with you again, and that's going
to happen. So I know you these he's he literally said,
you can get these these conversations in Hollywood all the
time and it never follows through. He said, we are
following through with you, for sure. And I was like, wow,
that was an insane conversation.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I did not expect that. And then within like a
month or month and a half, I got the call
that they wanted me to become a new CSI on
the show.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
I guess to.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
You know, bring another another element of like a little
bit of a younger energy. They wanted a little more
of a younger audience to start watching again. But they
were also it was a good time to bring in
a new character on the younger end of the spectrum
because Ted had then Ted Danson had replaced Billy Peterson,
so it was kind of like new faces on the show,

(55:36):
a little bit of a be launch of the show.
And Yeah, that was a that was a nerve wracking
experience coming into that talk about having anxiety coming into
a set knowing that they've been at it for over
ten years. Wow, and the same people and they're you know,
either a family or they're not. I didn't know, but

(56:00):
I got there and everybody was really welcoming, and everybody
seemed to get along with each other. And now to
this day, like some of those cast members are like
some of my best friends.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
And it reunited you with Mary Steinbrgin, right because Ted
Dancing is married.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Yeah, what really reunited me with her after the movie
was the fact that I went to college with Lily
and we used to play together when we were kids
because she would be on set. But it did reunite
us again, yeah, because you know, even though I had
kind of been in their lives and like I had
been in their lives a lot at that point, but
it you know, time good. You know, you'd have months

(56:37):
or years off and yeah, yeah, probably a year and
a half when I got that. And I think like
the best part of that really was one of the
best parts of that was working with Ted because he
was just one of the kindest, funniest you know, someone
like that who for me was I just was always a.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Of his.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
He was very uh, he had a sense of humor
that that really really worked on a set that when
you're coming in and you're you're the new person they
have to look to yeh, and it just it really
kind of made people fall in love with him very quickly.
It was it was his sense of humor and the
way that he talked to everybody and just a very

(57:26):
supportive person.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
So it's great.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I love hearing that about people that I respect, because
he's he can.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Do it all.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
I mean, he's you put him in cheers, you put
him in drama, you put him in whatever. And he's
going to kill it every time. So I love hearing
stories like that about people I admire that much, where
it's like, oh, it's you want to meet him, he's
everything you think he's going to be everything.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Thank God.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Yeah, that's really really true. I think the only other
person I can say in my career who's that level
of you know, a list or whatever, that I've worked
with that just kind of just opened my mind to
like how good you can still be even with that
level of success was Dolly Parton, And.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
She was like your idol.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
She was my idol, yes, but even so like just
above and beyond, she goes above and beyond when you're
working with her, Like literally I was treated like family.
I was like sleaming over like it was just cool.
And also because I was up fifteen or whatever when
I were there, Yeah, there, she was like very nurturing,

(58:27):
but stayed in touch with me, you know, like still
in touch with her. You know. It's just kind of
people like that are really special when you get to
cross paths with them, you know, that's so great. In
this viz.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Were you always supposed to be on for over eighty
episodes when you started CSI or did it just keep growing.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Basically, I went on as a recurring. They wanted to
contract me as a recurring, but I also had another
offer for another pilot, and so their hand was forced
to make me a series regular within the first Wow week.
Nice working, so I didn't have to go through that
like wondering period of like are they going to upgrade

(59:08):
my contract? And gave me more money.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
Great, So that was like.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
A really kismet magical thing that happened there. And then yeah,
they just you know, they were happy I guess with
what I was doing, and kept me in every episode.
I mean I did contract. I did make a contract
to do a certain number to make sure that I
was in, you know, all the episodes or I wasn't
going to do it. But they kept me very present

(59:34):
in the episodes. It wasn't like, you know, standing in
the background and just there because you were contracted for it,
which was good. It was a nice it's an ensom.
It's a great ensemble and they usually you know, keep
everybody well in the storylines and well served in the storylines.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's so great. Yeah, So you were recently working with
Christian Oliver who tragically passed away with his two young
daughters in a plane crash. What were you working together on?

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
We were working together on a film that he was
producing with a director that I had worked with about
four or five years ago. They had stayed in touch
and they were starting to make films together, and this
was the first one they were doing independently outside of
any other.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Outside like a production company.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
So it was a really important passion project for him
and it meant a lot to him, and it meant
a lot to me that he wanted to work with
me again because I'd worked with Christian in that movie
that I worked with that same director, So basically it
was reuniting the three of us, and it just felt
like an honor that they wanted me to do it,

(01:00:52):
because you know, when a friend wants you to do
something like that, it means that you're not just friends
with them, they actually respect your work.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
That's really.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Meaningful to me, and I was really excited to be
a part of it. It's currently I'm not sure what
the title is going to be. It was called Forever
Hold Your Piece, and I think they're changing the title.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
So you finished, You finished the film.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Then we we were close to finishing. We had one
more day, but it was a day that was extras,
so we were able to finish it. And you know,
it's it's coming together, I think. I honestly, for me,
it's it's hard to even talk about the movie in

(01:01:38):
the wake of what happened, and so for me, it's
not really about the movie at this point. I mean, I,
you know, care, I care about it, but I care
more about him and his family. And he was just
one of the sweetest, kindest, cared about you on his

(01:01:58):
set kind of people. He he and I had a
very easy working relationship where we were able to take
like each other's cues, like without a lot of talking,
just take each other. We really worked together well in
terms of if there was a bad energy happening around us,

(01:02:20):
just like holding each other's hand and getting you know,
making sure that we were always where we needed to
be with each other in each scene. And it was
just a very giving acting acting experience, a very giving
and reciprocally giving acting experience. But that's also who he
was as a person. He was just a really generous,

(01:02:41):
kind loved his kids more than anything in the world
human being. He's very, very sorely missed it's it's a tragedy.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I'm very sorry for your loss.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Thank you. Yeah, I'm sorry for his family.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah, absolutely so. Looking back now, almost thirty years later
on both the Boy Meets World episode and My Date
with the President's daughter, can't believe how quickly we are
inching towards thirty years from that and with so much
work on your resume. What do all of these decades
of work mean to you now when you look back.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
That's a great question. It's funny. I've been incredibly reminiscent lately.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
I think maybe because I've been asked to do a
lot of different podcasts for things these the nineties, coming
into the consciousness of gen Z, and you know, it's
created this very like nostalgia driven these nostalgia driven days
where I'll just be doing something and I'm like, oh,
that was fun and anything that I feel like at

(01:03:53):
this point in my life, I feel very proud, you know.
I feel like I worked really hard most you know,
for a lot of years, and it's it's taught me
a lot that I don't I don't need to always
be so driven all the time, you know, I'm happy
to be, you know, exploring other things in my life

(01:04:14):
and you know it's not just about that stuff anymore,
and that's really beautiful. Yeah, I mean, I just feel grateful.
I feel when I think look back about it, I
feel really grateful, very grateful. I'm proud.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I guess you should be proud. Absolutely. Yeah, we are
all very proud of you. I'm wrapping my arms around
your waist. I love you very sincerely, with all my heart.
I love it forever and ever. Elizabeth. Thank you so
much for spending your time with us today. We've loved

(01:04:48):
reminiscing with you and talking about your incredible career. So yeah,
thank you for being here with us. And we do
want to do a pod meets World my Day with
the President's daughter Rewatch, and we hope you join us
for that and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Then it would be so fun. I just want to
I want every I want you guys to just make
fun of us. I just want that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Oh, that'll happen. So you want it to be a
regular Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Great, you're laughing that hard every day. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
It is. It's pretty good. We we love our lives.
Thank you, Elizabeth, it was great talking with you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
That's so fun. It's always so fun to talk with
people you haven't seen since thirty ish years ago. I know,
Will you just saw her recently, so you've you've had
again on opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I still have that kind of this is the
new hey, I just saw you thing, and it's still like,
you know, right, we see each other all the time,
and I still don't have my presence, so we obviously
didn't see each other that much. So yeah, it's I
mean again, i'd like I want to see I want
to actually see her. It'll be nice to you know,
be in the same space with her again, which which
would be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
We got along very very well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
She's really easy to work with, loves the work, really
enjoyable to be with on the set, just goes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Looks great in the pink dress, looks wonderful in the
pink dress. I'm allowed to say it. In that pink dress,
You're not allowed to say it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
She was eighteen years old.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
This was the first job she did as an adult,
and she took over and like negotiated her own contracts
at Wow Wow for my date. Yeah, she was like
because her mom was her manager at the time. She's
like I'm taking this, and so my date was the
first time she like took the reins of her career.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Really really impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Wow, I'll say, I still don't like to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
No, I don't either. I haven't had a contract for
anything in years. I just go and assume I still
called Judy Savage.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Can you make this steal for me?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
You're equivalent of still going to your pediatrician doctor partner
something I've an awi. Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Thank you all for joining us for this episode of
Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on
Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your
emails podmeets Worldshow at gmail dot com. And we have merch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
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you don't know what that means.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Later, I was gonna say, is there a song in
the oh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And it's going to be stuck in your head till
today you die?

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yes, Podmeetsworldshow dot com will send us out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
We love you all, pod dismissed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Podmeets World is nheart podcast producer and hosted by Danielle Fischel,
Wilfredell and Ryder Strong, executive producers Jensenkarp and Amy Sugarman,
executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,
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