King & Lin Strong Meet World

Shawn Hunter’s parental situation wasn’t ideal on Boy Meets World, but Rider’s reality was the exact opposite. The Parent Series continues, now with Lin and King Strong in the hot seat and sharing everything you want to know about the origin of a young angsty sitcom star!

The Strongs reveal the early movies that molded Rider and his brother Shiloh into creatives and what ‘90s summer blockbuster almost cast the Strongs to star opposite Warren Beatty. 
 
The gang also finds out what it’s like to watch your son become a teen heartthrob in Hollywood, all while dealing with competition, unpredictable schedules, and newfound independence.
 
All this and more Grinders in-line skating talk, on a relative edition of Pod Meets World…

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I always look like I just rolled out of bed,
and I there's people like, like you said, Rider, like
the bad head hair is like people try to achieve
that look. I literally just do nothing. So I'm glad
of that actual look.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I shower, but I.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Shower because I work out. Showering used to be a
much bigger thing.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Okay, So when you say do nothing, mean actually I
take a shower.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I mean, but then I just dry my hair with
a towel and I don't like put anything in my
hair or comb my hair or do it.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
The definition of doing nothing is very different than mine.
Like if I literally getting out of bed and doing nothing,
I am doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
But yeah, so no, I showering used to be a
much bigger thing in my life. Now it's just rinsing off,
which is just like the worst thing ever. Like what's
the point because it's with the pointless The showers should
take forty five to fifty minutes, you should read it.
It should be relaxing so much.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's why that doesn't do it. That's why I'm angry.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now take exactly well, it was more than one cigarette,
and my two showers now take a total of like
twelve minutes for both showers and it's just the worst.
So yeah, I'm always in this mood now too, because
I don't have the full shower anymore. I don't have
an experience of being back in the womb, which is
what I think it is.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Frankly, Yeah, the showering is womb like for you. I
mean it is true that the I'm just currently obsessed
with modern street style, which is you can wear your
pajamas as pants. That's totally fine. You could wear borderline slipper.

(01:53):
Look at you rocking.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It like you? Okay this I was gonna say, you
wear your slippers out of the house. Will.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
The way you are dressed right now is as a
young cool. You're dressed as a young cool.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Wheat.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Now, I'm not saying you are a young cool, but
you are dressed like a young cool. If you were
to go to any like any outdoor place where there
are shops and cools, sure, a boba shop.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
But will you never would go out like this? Would you?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I'd go out?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm sure I would lodge bread like that. Yeah kah, yeah,
yeah like that.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't think I could not.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I can't go out, no problem.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You can't go out in sneakers.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
No, I can. I'm joking, but I prefer not to because.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
You feel underdressed for life and sneakers.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yes, absolutely absolutely, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Not a pegged writer is the fancy one between the
three of us, I.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Know, But I like, right, why not to explain that?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I just because.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Because you live under the tree in the woods and
not shower for three weeks if you had your druthers right, yes,
but like to go to the grocery store, You're like,
I need a scarf, a leather jacket and some necker chiffery.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, to do that.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
And because do you guys ever look at like old
film like.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Sne This is like my papa, My papa, who is
ninety nine and a half, would be like, have you
ever seen the way we used to get dressed to
go on a plane. It's an abomination these kids today.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Jun what anybody else does. I don't care what anybody
else does. I just when I see that, I'm always like, yeah,
like you know, we're like another jacket or a texture
or something.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's true. And not to get with again talking about
the much older people. But my mother in law, she
was ninety three when she passed away, And she used
to always say that when everybody dressed a certain way,
they acted a certain way. So when everybody dressed up
to go on an airplane, there was kind of a
respective being of the travel and being on an airplane.
And yeah, that kind of seems to have gone away.
I understand that. That's why, you know, there's the school

(03:59):
uniform or debate back and forth about you know, should
kids be forced to wear the school uniform that kind
of thing. So I get that, you kind of, but
they also say, dressed for the job you want. And
the job I want is to sleep for a living.
So I'm dressing for the job I want. I'm listening
to them, but so far nothing.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's so funny because like when I think about the nineties,
you know, like so much like my mentality back then
was like, don't care about what you wear.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah that's what drink.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah right, but but it was so obviously carry more
than if I actually write, do you know what I mean?
Like if I actually like bought clothes that fit me
or like, which I thought was like taking too much effort,
but in reality I cared so much more about what
I looked looked like because I had to make it
look like I didn't care what I.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Looked for right exactly, you were like it was like
the perfectly faded grungey enough tea or is this true
crisp and is this flannel worn in enough?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Or of these jeanes big enough?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think so, I mean, I don't know, like I guess,
I just I mean, in some ways it was a
cop out, like I could just get way with wearing
the same like three pairs of Jenko jeans over and over,
as I didn't care. But like, yeah, I think, I
don't know. It wasn't healthy, Like I definitely did not
have a Like I think it's really healthy to have
a clear sense of your own style of how you

(05:15):
want to present in the world and whatever that is,
whatever that is, just be comfortable and confident in that,
you know, do you remember it always was insecure, like
how much always miserable about the way I looked.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
How much ish We used to give Matt Lawrence for
dressing up nicely to come to work and he looked great,
had a style, and we were like, why can't you
just be relaxed? So if then he came in one
day with a wrinkled T shirt on and we were like.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Hey, we made that. We were making fun of him.
We were just talking. We were all talking about each
other's style one day and we we had you were
you were into categorizing everybody, if I remember. So, you
were like, you're this type of guy. You're that type
of guy. Like you still do e when you call
me creepy professor. So yeah, whatever the fact that you've
said something about me. And then you said to Matt,

(06:01):
you said, and you're a pretty boy, and he was
like what does that mean. I was like, well, you
you care about how you dress? And he was like
I don't know. And we were like, Matt, because and
to be fair, Matt spent a lot of money on
clothes back yes, but he looked great. He does not
he looked great. But he would go shopping a lot
with his family and spend a lot of money. And

(06:21):
he never wore the same clothes twice. Like that's what
I remember. It's like if you saw it. So we
were like, Matt, you just don't wear like a T
shirt and jeans. So the next day he came in
with like designer jeans, like the perfectly ripped oh yeah,
five hundred dollars jeans and a T shirt that was
just like slightly wrinkled, and we're in He's like, hey, guys,

(06:41):
and we were like, Matt, that's not it, and you know,
we just wouldn't let him off the hook. And then
we caught him later taking the steamer to.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
A set steam ironing the T shirt.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
He took off his clothes. It was steam ironing in
the wardrobe. We were like, see, Matt, you couldn't do it.
You couldn't even make it a day.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
He was ahead ahead of all of us by actually
having a style.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
But of caring about fashion.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yea, I found something because we've talked about it several times,
and I thought you'd want to see this. The original.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
There it is the original John Adams High School Athletic
department sweatshirt you kept.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
There it is. It's perfectly ripped, like you know the eighties.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's not right.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You cut that? You cut that?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I think, so I think you're right. Yeah, I think
I probably at the time did cut that. And then
it's just wow, that's great. This is also one of
my gauges of where I am weight wise, because sometimes
this fits and sometimes it does not. So yeah, it's
but it's still have it.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I just dressed like a juggalo and I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
What's a juggalo?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Juggalo? You know one of those people who likes the
insane clown posse.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, okay, I'll just say you mispronounced jiggalo. I'll be
honest with you. I was like, what's a juggalo.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's kind of like a movement, right, It's like a
whole like political movement. Or is it just people that
like their music. I don't know, it's a it's a
whole thing. I don't I don't really get into the
weeds of God. You just you know so much about
so much, Daniel do anything. We're the iHeart Concert. You're like, oh,
so and so so and so so and so like
reality TV show stars obviously, musicality TV.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
It all. Ye yep.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm like, I don't know who anybody is. I know
who Sabrina Carpenter is because she played my daughter. Like
that's literally the only reason I know who she is exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I feel the same way.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh well, welcome to Pod meets Old People. I'm Danielle Vishel,
I'm right or strong, and I'm a juggalo. I will
oh Man I am really excited about today's episode.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And guys, we have some big, big announcements.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
First up, are you in Los Angeles and want to
see us in person?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But more importantly, do you want to see mister William
Daniels aka the Phoeneest of all Phoenees in person?

Speaker 6 (09:09):
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Speaker 4 (09:09):
Join us on November seventeenth at the Orpheum in Los
Angeles for a very special Pod Meets World Live where
Bill Daniels will be joining us and.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Some other surprise special guests, but as stated, those are surprises.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
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dot com.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
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Theater and we can announce now we will be joined
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's going to be a special one.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
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Atlanta on December ninth, Durham, North Carolina on December tenth,
and Dallas and Austin in January.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
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Speaker 2 (09:51):
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Speaker 1 (09:53):
We released three new shirts this month and we love
them all.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
We have the ensorcell shirt celebrating our favorite word and
apparently the best way to make women do anything you
want on Boy Meets World. That's a deep cut.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But our two newest we heard your demands and we
have a Property of John Adams High School shirt and
hoodie for the podcast department and it's available now, a
way to wrap the school and the pod at the
same time. Those are going to sell like hotcakes.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And we finally did it. We made the Shan shirt.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's right, the T shirt we talk about all the
time where it looks like Atlas holding a heart and
I wore it for like three seasons straight. We've replicated
it and it's available now. Oh I cannot wait.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
To wear that big day for pod Meets World. Go
check them all out now and join us for a show.
Go to Podmeets worldshow dot com now. And for this
very special episode, we are going to do something a
little different and I am going to pass over introduction
duties to mister Ryder Strong.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh my god, wow.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Are you ready? Writer? How do you feel?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I'm okay, yeah, find my notes, okay, okay, yeah, this
is going to be interesting, guys.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I'm thrilled.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
All right, here's my attempt at an intro. Okay, Today,
we continue a journey that we began when Danielle's mom,
Jen Fischer joined us on the show, and that is
specifically the journey of discovering just how much teenage Rider
thought that all parents were soul crushing fascists. Now we
go behind the scenes of his delusion and meet the

(11:22):
poor parents who had to put up with him. Like
Corey Matthews, Linda Warner Strong grew up in suburban Philadelphia.
Like Sean Hunter, King Arthur Strong and yes that is
his real name, grew up with very little money in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
The two of them met at penn State University, where
she refused to believe that that was his real name

(11:43):
until he showed her his ID. They both moved separately
to San Francisco, where they reunited and fell in love
while spending six months riding a motorcycle to Alaska and back.
They then bought a piece of land in a redwood
forest and proceeded to build a home entirely on their own,
starting with digging a pool and making a hot tub
out of an olive oil tank. They decided to have kids,

(12:04):
raise them in the woods and make sure that they
also had unusual names. King was a captain in the
Marine Corps who piloted a four Skyhawks in Vietnam. Then
he was a lieutenant in the San Francisco Fire Department
for thirty years. Lynn was a nutritionist who taught at
the Santa Rosa Junior College until quitting her job to
manage her two sons burgeoning acting careers. Even though neither

(12:26):
of them had any experience in the arts or entertainment industry,
they offered constant, unwavering support, both emotionally and practically, for
their two sons to follow their dreams onto the stage
and eventually to the screen. Their little back to the
Land project in northern California has expanded into a beautiful
home nestled among some giant trees. It's their private paradise

(12:48):
where their son Rider doesn't visit enough, and where they
welcome anybody with open arms, provide copious amounts of food, wine,
and love. Please welcome my parents, Lynn and King Strong.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yay, what a beautiful introduction. It sounded a little bit
like a mad lib. They're just their lives are so interesting.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
It was like, look at these mad libs.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I'm just going to take that and just use
the same thing whenever my dad or my mom are on.
It's just attorney Gary Fredell, attorney out of a hot tub,
out of olive oil. Yeah, just get easy.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
All right, Let's see how that technology goes.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Hillary Burton Morgan here and I am excited to share
with you a new series. I'm launching a companion podcast
to my passion project, Sundance TV's True Crime Story It
Couldn't Happen Here Now. On the show, we focus on
small towns and the crimes that can rip them apart.
The cases we've covered have confused me and they have

(14:00):
made me deeply question our judicial system. What got me
so excited about doing this podcast is that we have
more time to really dig in. So you're going to
hear more information on these cases, as well as never
before heard interviews, and you'll get to go behind the
scenes with me and the team and learn what it's
like to make a show like this. Come join us

(14:22):
as we get curious and get involved. Listen to True
Crime Story It Couldn't Happen Here on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Oh my god, you guys look fantastic.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's so good to see you both. Thank you so
much for agreeing to do this. Guys, we're so happy
to have you both.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, it's funny to see you all once.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
So these guys are longtime listeners at least my dad, right, Dad,
you listen to every episode of part Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Listen to some, but I have I haven't heard them all.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Why have you not heard them all?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
In you love your son?

Speaker 8 (15:25):
I do it at double speed everything. I listened to
a Double Speed and it's so I get through a
lot every morning. I got to do stretches and then
while I doing that, I get through a couple of
episodes or I sot to other things so much too too.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
You know, like like what got this universe and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Danielle official and double Speed sounds terrified.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's amazing, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's just like twelve year old Danielle.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
It is.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's like twelve year old Danielle for sure.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's funny because I also listen on Double Speed to
do the edits and uh, if you when then I
want to make an edit, I go have to go
into one time, you know, just regular speed.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And after that then it's.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
So sometimes what's going on here?

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Talking so slow and I have to get back some
of the wheels.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I want to I want to start a little
bit just I'm gonna let writer, you know, kind of
guide where he wants to take this interview. But you
have we have your gorgeous home in the background, and
I want to talk a little bit about the home
that you guys built from scratch by yourselves and what

(16:37):
that process was like for you.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
How many years ago was it that you built the house.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Now almost fifty Yeah, well.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Yeah, we want We wanted to move in right before
a Rider was.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Born, and he was born in seventy nine, as everyone
knows everyone else.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, so we moved in, but it's still we didn't
have cabinet covers or yeah, but we had a roof and.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
So we moved in. Her dad helped with the building
more than anything.

Speaker 8 (17:05):
So the two of us basically building and it was
it was a hass little bit.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
It was fun. It was really fun. He's the greatest
guy I worked with in my life.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
Everything come really nice. But we moved in without having
you know, like you said, the cab has done.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
A lot of things that are here now were built
after we moved in.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
But it's yeah, I was gonna say, it's really never
been done. The house is.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Still being Next week the elevator comes in.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Although it was just listened to a program.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
I can't remember what it was about how you shouldn't
use elevators when you get to this sage you keep
moving that stopped you from the hundred years of life
or something. It's about the interviewed all these people throughout
the world who have lived over one hundred years and
why they lived over that period of time. It's because
they didn't stop moving. As long as you're moving, you're joining.

(18:00):
Don't tighten up, you don't get lazy and just sit
all these people who just made to one hundred and
three hundred and.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Ten or something like that. It's incredible. It was really good.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
But anyhow we read that just or listen to that
just last couple of nights ago, sow In elevator supposed
to use it will really like it.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yes, and and I couldn't agree with you more that
continuing to move. But you guys also live on such
beautiful property. You can get outside and move on mostly
flat ground. The potential for injuring yourself on stairs far
outweighs the benefits of walking when you can do flat
ground walking.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, you're true. Sometimes absolutely.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Now, my my mother in law used to always say,
if you're resting, your rusting, So I thought that was
that was interesting.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It sounds like, well, as you guys know, Writer has
been painted as sort of a Jack Carawhac brooding artist type,
this young literature major.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So even when he was a preteen, he was that way.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I have to ask right off the bat, what was
it like raising a young writer strong?

Speaker 8 (19:18):
This guy was so sharp, but you know, really early
on realized intelligence he was and it was going some
particularly get into the programs to the show. That's where
it kind of threw me because there's so much he
was doing there and yet listen to podcasts. Is what
my amazing to me, how much I did not know

(19:38):
that you guys are experiencing. And Writer particularly he told
some of the stuff, but then he wanted it off
the show. And it was like, early on, why'd he
want off the show? But he had his reasons, and okay, we.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Went off the show. We'll get off the show.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
And actually we talked about that because he was so
anxious to get off and see the girl that he
was dating.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
More important thing.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Do you have, Mari?

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, okay, that's the most important to you, so you
can break the contracts, the big deal. Yeah, kind of
changed his mind about that. But as far as his
brilliance that I am aware of, I seem to.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Be recognized that really early.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
He's always even that's a little little type he was.
I felt he had an old soul. Yeah, that's yeah,
he has an old soul. Yeah, he's like an old
man in this tiny little lot he had with wisdom
and the intelligence that was pretty mind boggling.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Actually, I was getting embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Where do you think writer in Shiloh's like performative and
artistic nature came from. Do either of you have any
sort of performance bone in your body? Or either of
you would you consider yourselves to be performative or artistic?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
No?

Speaker 6 (21:00):
No, But but we were stake at one time. I
felt like I was, but that was.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
More and I'm crafty. I knit and do.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Pottery, drawings and paintings.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
But we did videos. We early on when writer was
about what were you writer to or three?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I was two? I think, yeah, and that was where
did that come from? Because Dad, you just bought a
video camera. You were like one of the best first vhs.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Yes, yeah, right, yeah, Well your mother had always took
a course.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
I took a when I was in graduate school. I
took an elective of filmmaking. So we used to what's
it called super eight, you know, and had to edit
and do little things. So I knew you could how
you could edit certain ways. And so so we had
writer and Shiloh become in their story that they made up.

(21:55):
They become cowboys. But then they turn around and we
stopped the camera. They become get into their superhero outfits
and get on the same spot and as they turn
around and they magically become superheroes.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Wow, that's it.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
That's the moment visual effects. Yeah, please tell me you
still have this somewhere. Do you have this video Great
Toy Caper, The Great Toy Caper, and you have it? Yes,
they just showed into some of these. I haven't seen
them in years, but the Great Toy Caper was the
first one. I was like two and a half. Shiloh's
like three or four. And I mean, what I love
about these videos now is and then, like I said,

(22:33):
I haven't seen it a while, but like, my parents
are like always the bad guys or like, and they
are so committed and they would, you know, they like
they would do this this particular story. They were stealing
tolleys from the sandbox and so they wore bags over
their head and they play these bad guys and they're
all like, and it is and then my grandparents are

(22:54):
get involved.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:57):
It was a family everybody even yeah, even your grandmother.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
We would spend all day making these movies. Oh yeah,
and they were inspired by whatever. Like Shiloh came home
from school one day he had created some robot character
at school. So then remember we made Dracula meats Robot
one twenty six or whatever, and it was like, yeah,
and my dad played a mad scientist who built a
child because their son died. I died, right.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
The story.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Good So that you know, the boys were exposed to
being on a camera, very arrowly on and it was
always a fun story that we told, which was it
was their stories. They're the ones that wrote them.

Speaker 8 (23:44):
Yeah, they made up the ideas that we just had
the fun doing the editing stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
But I love how you you were wondering if you're like,
I guess I'm kind of artistic. And then you're talking
about making films as a family over and over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's incredibles. By the way they would edit, they my
mom would play piano, they'd add music like these were
like you know, they were working and that's the thing
they was all. It was like basically, my brother and
I were always being told that like whatever we imagined,
the family was willing to spend days making a reality
out of which is just like that's the greatest gift
you can give, Like I want to be a little filmmaker.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's like, oh, this is important and let's learn the
skills to figure it out. So, yeah, you guys are
incredibly creative. You also both are musically gifted. Dad, you
can sing really well. Mom you play the piano. Like
you guys have lots of artistry. Yeah, you just never
had it in your lives, Like you never made a
career out of it. Right, But Dad also does stained glass.
You can see a little bit of the stained glass
behind him. He did these stained glass windows all throughout

(24:40):
the house.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I love the staying somedays I remember them from your
house yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But the correlation is kind of interesting between making a
film and building a home. I mean, you're building something from.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Scratch that's artistic.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Whether it's something like building a home or making a film,
you're still starting with nothing and creating something amaze. So
I mean, the the artistry just in building the home,
it is there in itself. So yeah, I love to
hear you guys are both searching for like, well, I
guess we're kind of artistic people. As you're sitting in
the home you built by hand, talking about the films

(25:14):
you were making Unrenewable.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
So how did you then tackle the concept of entering
Hollywood like without any real connections and in a small
little town that you live in.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
That was because Sharlow and Ryder were taking hacking lessons
and one of the antient Asian an Asian contacted the
leading person in the acting class and said, do you
have anybody that can go for audition?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Audition for what it was for?

Speaker 7 (25:54):
And so so we videotaped, we got the side, so
we video and and we got they got screen tested.
They were down to five kids in the nation, five
little boys, and two of them were horse They flew
as they flew us down to Los Angeles. We met

(26:15):
Warren Baby.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
Kids went in and they didn't get the part. They
had no idea what we were doing. The limousine picked
us up.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
The limos all we cared about you guys were and
then yeah, you guys are just you were like trying
to explain who Warren Baby was and we just could
could not.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
We were hoping because at that point Madonna was attached
to the project, and that's all I remember, being like, oh,
maybe we'll meet Madonna.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so this is this is for Charlie corsmost part.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Wow, yeah, kid kid.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
The first audition they ever did, they were screen tested
on and so then after that we were getting agents
and who knew that saying hey, we you know, do you.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Guys remember what we did? Then when we went into
the audition, like how green and naive we were.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah, you were through the pages or something trying to.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
So they went off, they went off, they improved.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
How old were you writer? At nine? Okay? So Warren
Batty started trying to improv with me, and I thought
I was the first kid in the audition, like out
of the kids there, and I thought, oh, I have
the wrong pages NIGHTM well, that's written on my script.
You know, I've been reading for like four years, and
I'm like, I'm doing something wrong. And then, like an idiot,

(27:39):
I come out and tell the entire waiting room they
were saying lines that weren't on the script. They wanted
us to make them up on the spot. So then
all the other kids were totally prepared.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh man, I took one for the tea you took.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
So then how did you guys deal with that rejection
when neither of them booked it?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
How did they handle it? And how did you guys
handle it?

Speaker 7 (28:02):
How did you handle it? Rider?

Speaker 6 (28:04):
We did didn't any to us.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
It was just exciting adventure and yeah, you just got
to go in a limo and me orange Baby, I.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Mean so cool.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, I remember thinking it was It was an.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
After that we had the uh. They auditioned for Lemiz
for the live performance in San Francisco, and Ride was
booked that day. Charlotte was on a wait list to
see how tall, so he was a couple of months
later he auditioned again, but Bridan was booked right away.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Was too tall, but it had grown too much.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
So they measured us every week on Lima's Yeah, they
were a kid on stage.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So what was that like having to bring rider because
I you know, when we you do live stage, obviously
the schedule is grueling. So what was that like having
to shuttle him back and forth from San Francis Go
because you're you guys are what an hour hour and
a half outside.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Of the store and a half?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (29:04):
There?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
And was that every day.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Six days a week, one one day off?

Speaker 9 (29:10):
But uh, well you know Matt das two days performance, Yeah,
Wednesday and Saturday.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
But there was you know, what do you call curtain
call at the end, they had a standing ovation every
night and Writer, you wanted to stay for that, you know,
it's thrilling And that was at eleven fifteen at night.
Oh so then we had to drive home there, so

(29:42):
it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
What do you remember most about his stage debut?

Speaker 7 (29:47):
I I remember the audition. He yeah, we were practicing
what we're going to what we were going to sing,
and Writer changed his mind I think right before we
got in there to sing the Battle Hymn of the
Republic instead of like, I forget what he was supposed
to do. But anyway, and then you they had him

(30:09):
crawl across the stage singing the song.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Right because Cavarro has to die on stage. Yeah, so
I haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
It, so thanks spoiler alert.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Have you never seen mish? We talked about this, we
haven't seen it yet. Yeah. So Gavroche has this this
like like rousing theme song about how little people know
and little people find it. It's actually been completely cut
down the latest edition, which is a disaster. In the
original play, he had this whole song and then he
runs across He jumps over the barricade to go get

(30:40):
bullets because he's quicker and smaller than any of the
other like adults, and get shot. But he has to
like sing his He's singing his like song while he's
getting shot three times. It was a great yeah, and
so what for my audition? They were like I sang
the battle him in the Republic, and they're like, now
sing it, but you're dying and you're crawling across stage.

(31:02):
Whenever I pointed to you, you get shot and you
have to keep singing, which is you know basically, And
I of course loved it.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
I remember though, because I had gotten new clothes for
you to go. You were worried that it got old
dusty from the stage because you had to crawl across
the Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
You were like, sorry, mom, my clothes got dirty.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah, but that was it was exciting though. It was
an exciting time.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
After two and a half years.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
He was cheating while you were pregnant. Were pregnant? Yeah,
about thirteen women. More like if I would have stayed
married to Max, I think you would have cheated forever.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It was just toxic relationship.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Michael Cousin returns to wind Down with Janet Kramer.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Cousins.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
You don't want to miss this three parts re unions.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Were you ever worried that both of them being in
entertainment as actors would create competition between the two of them?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Sure, oh yeah, yeah, because they are going through the
same part sometimes.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Yeah, because they're only eighteen months apart, so they were
constantly auditioning for the same part.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
But we're both working on the TV series at the
same time too. That's like the complicated. But luckily I
had a job as a firefighter and I was able
to trade days so I could be Like when even
Rider got a movie in the New Mexico, New Mexico. Yeah,
and I was able to trade a couple of weeks
to go there for that. I can't remember the name

(32:48):
of the movie.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
You remember, writer, The Long Kill. It was a TV Yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
This is why you're still on Boy Meets World too.
I think.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, that was before Boy was before Boy. Yeah. Yeah,
you and I spent like three weeks in New Mexico together.
I just remember playing cards constantly, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
What card games? Did you play?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Egyptian Rat? You taught me that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You taught me that game game.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't remember it now, but I a great way
to kill time on a set with your dad when
you're eleven years old.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
We uh.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Pile you have to like slash to slap the pile
and you have doubles. I think you can call it
Egyptian Rat screw it but whatever, Yeah, or Egyptian War.
But yeah, my dad and I played that, and yeah,
we just had I remember, we had a great time.
And we went and saw the The Cliff Dwellings and uh,
you know, I had had a lot of downtime because

(33:41):
I was a very small part in this movie. But yeah,
and then I went to Australia for a job with
you mom. Yeah, yeah, they took turns and then my
brother would be like, Charlotte was off doing movies in
North Carolina. A bunch of.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
It was. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Do you remember hearing about then and Boy Meets World
came up? Was this just another another one in the
long line of auditions or did you think that maybe
this was going to be special? I mean, do you
remember hearing.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
About the show?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Nothing about it.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
It was just it was any other audition, and it
was surprising that there was lasted seven years.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
That was incredible.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
But it was such a good show right from the
beginning that you knew it was going to last. But
then Ryders part got bigger and bigger scenes.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, I listened to you guys your podcast.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
I'm amazed how much I didn't know when all behind
the scenes and what you guys did it is amazing.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know my mom says the same thing.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
My mom's like, man, I feel like I feel like
I knew it all, She's like, And then I realize
we all think we know it all because we just
have our own little POV.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
You're right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Well, but you know, at least those moms were.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
There all the time, exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I know my parents still ask what a podcast is,
so a little bit a little bit different. But yeah, yeah,
but mom, you were there for the first really the
first three seasons consistently, right, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
So what was that like for you?

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Uh, you know, initially it was very exciting me and
everybody and seeing, yeah, how it all works. But it
got boring very quickly.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
You didn't have I mean, you weren't being paid to
be there, you know, so it was you know, but
it was a job and I was supposed to stay
within sight and sound of my child kind of thing.
But he was in school and I knew he was
fine in the school with David Combs and Wesley and
uh so I got to read a lot of books.

(35:40):
Initially I was happy about because when you have when
you're raising boys out in the country, you never have
time to read a book.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
So that was that was nice.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
I was able to catch up with reading a lot
of biographies.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
That's all. I remember. Many times I spent there was
just reading a book. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
I mean it's such a sacrifice for you, you know, like
you could have with those days, you could have been
working you could have been doing, you know, anything else
you wanted to do for yourself, but instead, for no money,
you're sitting on a set literally quietly doing nothing.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Thankfully you liked to read, so you got to accomplish
you know, you got to read a lot of books,
and I know you got you know, for my mom,
you were a real source of knowledge and wisdom because
you guys had been in the industry certainly for a
lot longer than we had, and my mom looked up
to you so much, and my mom has such fond
memories of spending time with you on set.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, what was the set of Boybet's World like in particular?

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Mom?

Speaker 7 (36:50):
What was it?

Speaker 6 (36:51):
What?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
What was the set of boy Meets World like as
compared to other sets or like the group of people,
the cast, the crew to Crown?

Speaker 7 (36:59):
Okay, I the one that really stood out for me
was that you had done a guest spot on Home
Improvement and I think they were right next door. Yeah,
but anyway, but you were there for one or two weeks.
In fact, it was a Halloween which they were getting
nearby there. But the three kids, the three boys that

(37:25):
were on Home Improvement, they were being yelled at I was.
I was upsetting to see how they treated them, you know.
So I really appreciate the fact that the whole of crew,
everybody in Boy Meet's World, they respected you as actors

(37:50):
and professionals. And I never remember anyone ever yelling or
degrading to any of you. So that was that was.
I was very impressed with how well they treated you
as as and treated you like professionals that you were.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah, I know that the Home Improvement Boys have talked
about that. I heard things about that set that where yeah,
the kids there were treated like second class citizens basically
friend and not actors or you know, other professionals. So
I'm sure that was quite a change where Boy Meets
World definitely felt more like a family environment.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and very professional.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
How's the thing. Yeah, Boy Me World was just sort
of an inversion and that the kids were. I mean
it was called boy right, I mean it was built
around band. It was like the show started with the kids.
The adults were cast around him essentially, you know. So, yeah,
there was no there was no avoiding the fact that
the show only existed for child actors.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, good point, that's true.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
It's just like the one child that was on the
mommies who was so far towards them the good parts,
But it wasn't like the kid's story. So on the
last of two seasons that was.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Chilte was just like making out with a girl on
the couch every week, right, And how is that different?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Then by season three or four with you yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Girl and che exactly, that would be literally an.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Extent in his part. It was like a recurring joke
that he was just always laying on the couch making
girl and like that was his entire world.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
Flipping Berg is as joineder or something really yeah, yeah,
something weird like that.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Now, did you ever worry about the kind of you know,
we we've heard about. It was mostly in the in
the eighties, so we weren't there. We were coming up after.
But did you ever worry about Rider or Shiloh falling
into the young actor trap of you know, what Hollywood
could do with clubs or going out and partying or
any of that stuff. Was that ever a concern in

(39:50):
any way?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
No, never thought touched together kids, No, it was never something.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Well, we all also made a point to fly home
every week, and we literally live in a redwood forest
right up here in northern California, and I just always said,
I want to I want to keep them grounded in
the redwoods.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yep. So yeah, and that's that's really smart.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
You can limit the exposure and limit the downtime in
the environment. And and even if you're going to have
a very hands off approach in the redwood forest, you know,
you know what's out there. At least it feels a
little it feels like you have a little bit more
control then you do.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I mean, kids might get stabbed, but that's not.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Exactly that can happen.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
But no, that's true. I mean I think that's one
of the most dangerous combinations of a young child actor
is a lot of money and a lot of time,
and so you put those two things together and sometimes
it's not a great combination. So yeah, I think we
all kind of avoided that that hole, which is great.
But I know that one of the things that made
me feel so good, especially one time, Lynn, was that

(41:07):
I knew that you started to really trust me, uh
with hanging out with Ryder because we were going somewhere
and You're like, I don't want to go here, just
take the Previa, and you tossed me the keys to
your car and you were like, you just take them,
let's go. And I had everybody in the car. They
were just driving your car around. I was like, Oh,
this is good. She trust me, now, this is awesome.

(41:27):
So I remember that. Yeah, I remember feeling good about that.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
You were the older, you know, the elder in the groups.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That was so great.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:40):
Yeah, we lived initially, you Will and Rider and Child
and I were all in Oak Woods.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, and Lee and Lee Lee. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
So as Rider got a little bit older, he ended
up being on the cover of every teen bop mag
magazine you could possibly think of. What was that like
for you as parents to see your son be a
teen heart throb?

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Felt good about it.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
But I still have a whole chest with drawers full
with all those magazines pictures.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I love that.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
So I did collect them. I did, you know, I'd
go and buy the magazine and see what they had
to say.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
Niece had to take care of, niece had to take
care of so much, it was incredible.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
That's right. My cousin Alicia, Yeah, Alicia, Yeah, she came
up to call over. It was really nice. So much work.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
What do you don't all the letters.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Right, she read all of them, and that's when you
then started doing the headshots with the printed autograph, right,
So you would get a headshot sign one of them,
and then they would make copies of it.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
And you do too.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, we all did that.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, you have to, you need to.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
There's just a bit much. I wouldn't want to do
it myself, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
And so king did anybody at the fire station, like
what did your friends think?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
In your small little town? You have these two kids.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
That that strike it kind of big in Hollywood, Like,
you come from this tiny town and you have two
very famous young men in your family.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
What did people say to you?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Did that?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Did people know?

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Yeah, they knew, but I can't remember being anything special.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
They just didn't care.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Say to this day. Asked about what's weird? Yeah, yeah,
when we got the fireman's ball, yeah.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
The fire department.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
Yeah, those guys were really impressed for some reason. Yeah,
I think locally, I don't of course, right here country,
what's local? You don't have all these people around you family.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
It's like a fifteen min drive to the town of Sebastopol,
which is a town of seven thousand people. That's a
that's that's a drive away.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
So yeah, but writer, our podcast has made local press.
We've been in your paper. I imagine you were probably
in the local paper back then too, No.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You know, I mean I think it goes back to
the idea that like no one really cared. Nobody cares
because we were kids show. So yeah, we were sort
of flying under the radar at home. Like I remember
just I would go home and like Insanoma County basically
feel invisible, Like I felt like a totally normal.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Which is one of the reasons you loved it.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
We wanted to.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, that's why we came home every weekend.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
I mean, if anything, when I ended up at the
high school I ended up at, which is you know,
a very alternative, you know, out in the woods, hippie school,
Like if anything, I got made fun of for being Hollywood,
you know, like if if I dressed, if I cared
about how I looked, if I if I I ever
had product in my hair, and it was like just
pure mockery. I remember my teacher calling me out, like

(45:06):
talking about consumerism and and how how ridiculous and like
somehow he found out that we had more than one
VCR and like he like made fun of me in
front of the entire school that like I had, how
dare somebody have more? And it's like, but this is
what I do for a living, Like, yeah, video equipment
is kind of important. But I felt bad, If anything,
I felt bad about being an actor in Its.

Speaker 8 (45:29):
Funny because you always wanted to quit and go back.
It's not always that one period through the schooling.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Writer you mentioned about the high school. The schooling was tough,
you know, because they were when they were smaller, they
were going to the public school. But they don't want
they want the child there in the seat. They get
the money that way scare in California, and so for
him to be pulled out all the time for even

(45:57):
in an audition and then more, it was difficult. It
was just hard, right. So we ended up we ended
up looking at several private schools around the area that
could be that would work. And the one we did find,
I mean we had we had actually rafted we're river
rafting with the husband of the owner of the school,

(46:20):
and we were on one of the trips with her
and her family and I was talking to her about
it and she goes, oh, we can work something out.
We can, you know. And luckily both both the boys were.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
Liked school.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
They were they could be trusted with assignments and get
them done. Even though they were off someplace doing the
acting and the job, they would get the work done.
So every three weeks when there was hiatus, they could
come back and get their hand the work in.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
And yeah, that must have felt nice to have that
one less worry on your plate of like, oh, are
they getting an education?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
You always knew that they were. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (47:04):
Unluckily you guys were. You had a great schooling.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
The best.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Wesley and David were just two of so good, the
best in the world.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
I truthfully would put either one of them up against
the best teacher anybody in the world and be like, yeah,
dare you to do better than these two?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
So I have a.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Question because we when Jen Fischer came on, we had
to talk a little bit about Danielle's dating history, and
I think it's only fair that we do the same
when we talk about Rider, because Ryder has so. I
met him he was twelve, he'd already been married for
thirty two.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Years, falling in line with the old man inside the
young man's thought.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, he has been relationship guy since day one that
I met him, and I was wondering if you could
talk just a little bit about I mean, a man
who wears his heart on his slee leave when it
comes to the relationships he's in. What was it like
raising somebody who has been in love you know one
and there's I think people he's a tortured in love

(48:13):
young man from the time I had met him. Can
you walk us a little bit through Writer's love life?

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Oh? He would just yeah, I mean you just described
it perfectly. Yeah, Yeah, he just falls totally and it's
that one and only person. Yeah, for they were all
long term relationships.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
No, did you ever want to encourage him to, like,
you know, because my mom I would always I would
usually fall for the very first person that would appear
in front of me after a breakup, and my mom
would go, Danielle, you can't just keep stumbling into quote
unquote long term relationships if you're never available, how are

(49:02):
you going to meet the right person? Like if you're
just always taken? Did you ever want to encourage Writer
to not be so obsessation been finding the one at
twelve and to maybe just kind of be a little
freer and date a round. I'm asking for young Danielle
who really just never had her chance.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah, Dan, young did.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
That's the problem is Danielle is retroactively trying to get rid.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Would you ever encourage you to just be a little
single for a while.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
No, I don't. I don't remember encouraging to the woman
that he was with. Where great, good choices, good choices.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Everyone he ever dated was always like, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, you guys had a very you guys had a
very cool, hands off approach to a lot of a
lot of your parents.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Where do you think that comes from. Were you guys.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Raised with a lot of freedom as kids, or were
your parents a little more strict?

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Oh? My parents were totally free. I mean, do whatever
you want to do as all as you want to.
I never had any restrictions at all in any part
in my life. Sometimes I was a little kid and
you had little I had restrictions. You had restrictions, And
I ended up.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
Moving three thousand miles away to feel free.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
San franc in nineteen seventy.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
San Francisco was home because there was freedom. There was
Yeah at that point, I was what twenty two anyway,
But they still had control over me. I felt. You
know that that's.

Speaker 8 (50:43):
Totally different to two of us. Like I said, I
had total free different times. I was ten, eleven, twelve
years old, but twenty two.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
And you had to move to get it.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Yeah, really I did.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, what a time in a place, though. Can you
tell me just a little bit what San Francisco in
the late sixties early seventies was, like, I mean, that
was like a cultural phenomenon in the United States. What
was it like at twenty two, moving across the country
and seeing San Francisco at it's arguably its height of coolness?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
What was that like?

Speaker 7 (51:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Boy?

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Well, like I said, I felt at home and felt
totally free. You could do whatever you wanted. We had
gotten into marijuana and so we were enjoying that. And
then there were protests at Golden Gate Park that you
could just join in and it's very it was just exciting.
It was very exciting and free.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
And when did you guys reconnect?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
So you guys met at Penn State and then and
then moved separately to San Francisco. At what point did
you guys reconnect and what were you doing separately at
the time that you guys reconnected.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
Well, the first when I first came out to San Francisco,
I only came out for the summer, and uh, but
during that summer I decided I need to move out.
So but the first night I was in San Francisco,
I went out with King, not as a date, his
old roommate who I had dated at the State. You know,

(52:26):
I went out and I saw him, and so I
saw King the first night, actually.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Visited after about a year, I guess.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
That winter, I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (52:40):
Somewhere in there, Bill, who she was dating, said to me,
I was back back at the time a lot, and
she said he said to me, you know, uh, bac
take why don't you date her?

Speaker 7 (52:53):
Yeah? Well, I mean Phil and I were never serious, ever,
ever serious.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
So that's how we got to go.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Wow, I love that Lyn's boyfriend set you to. That
is my favorite met.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Yeah, but it turned out great.

Speaker 8 (53:14):
Yeah, a great friend of mine and good friend of hers,
and we got together and then.

Speaker 7 (53:21):
Actually riding you called a local Bill.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, but then I never saw him after the age
of like four or five.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, he went out for cigarettes.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
He moved back back to Pennsylvania. Were Yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Guys really you you were dating on and off, but
you really it was the trip to Alaska that really.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Oh yeah, that's definitely what happened on that trip.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Uh. Well, we went up on a Honda three fifty
one bike with the two of us on it and
our one.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Pack back back that had.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
Little stove for cooking meals and one other change of clothes,
and we just took off. Yeah, it was we.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
Got how far we get? Eighty miles?

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Yeah, we got up to Cinama County, where we now.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
The brand new bike, and we had to pull over
to a place which was just an abandoned farmhouse and
we slept there from right now it's a.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
It's a ko Kwa campground.

Speaker 8 (54:30):
Somebody bought the property is a big campground now, but
we're the first camps there. And the next morning we
pushed it over to uh which was in at Alum
at the time, and they fixed that day. We continued
on our trip and go all the way to Act.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
When I look back on that, I'm surprised we just
kept going. Yeah that we never we never discussed let's
go back home, let's go back to San Francis.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
He was only eighty miles away.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
I know, you guys were just tell me about like
where was it the end, in the middle of the
trip whatever, when you were when you were doing the
backpacking where Dad wanted to build a raft and like
go across the thing and that's when you finally had
your breakdown.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Mom, that was that was the West Coast Trail on
Vancouver Island.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Okay, that's the first trip.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
No, that was after elastic it was, but.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
That was a trip that I mean, we had been
together several years, living together. I think we were up
here at redwood Shire or place we call it. And uh,
but we took that trip and the king was very
he was very excited about building the rift and we
had to have a tie watch the tides and anyway,

(55:45):
it was a awful trail. It was not well maintained.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
I was trees across the road.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
How many days angry? You were like three or four days?

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Yeah, just a couple of days. Yeah, and and uh yeah,
and I just said, this isn't fun. My bedroll was wet,
everything was wet.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
We met two campers on the coming the other director
who had lost all their equipment crossing that river.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
And they said and they had nothing, they had no
We gave him some of our food.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Great challenge, and she was worn up, and so you know,
this isn't fun.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
It was the only trailing, you know. But but I
told him, I said, look, you you go on, I'll
hike back because we've already just came from there. I
can go back and then all yourself.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I guess, well, it's like bear country, like Jesus, I'll.

Speaker 7 (56:39):
Stay in the hotel and then when you get when
you get.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Back, yeah, honestly, but not a bad decision.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Listen, King, if you want to take the chance with
your bed and all of our belongings, I'll go to
a motel and I'll see you on the other side.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Sir.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I think that was a healthy moment for my parents.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
But but but King said, no, we're doing this together
and I'll go back with you.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Good.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
So he went to the motel and he didn't force
you to go down the river. Just air air dry
your bed, air dry your bed.

Speaker 7 (57:16):
But at that point I knew he was a keeper.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, that was I knew.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
You should have known that.

Speaker 8 (57:24):
That was three months getting back to that, the original one.
It took about a month to get up there, so
it slowly were because it rained the whole time on
the on the motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
H on the you're riding a motorcycle. It's raining the
whole time.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Stuck a couple of places because all the springs in
the rear wheel broke.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
This is not a good ad for Honda. I gotta
be honest. Thank god we're sponsored by Honda.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Honda the Yukon, all through the Yukon, the al Falcan
Highway was all gravel and it went It was.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
Very, uh wind.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Winding, incredibly windy.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Because of World War Two, they made it really windy
so that anybody straighten they wouldn't be able to wipe
out the whole convoy.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
So they made it like this all the way up
to the last so it.

Speaker 7 (58:12):
Was crazy and all all the only other people on
the on the highway there was these big trucks delivering
up to Alaska, and every time they went by this
gravel would come up and we'd have to cover up.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh my gosh, because you get gravel spit at you.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Yes, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
This sounds like my absolute nightmare.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I was gonna say, Danielle and I I'm just staying
quiet because it's like this is the riders, like, yeah,
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I love this.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I'm going to like when I have a camera Van
is when I have a camera Van, I'm like, what
are we doing? This is like the height of luxury.
We should be on on bicycles or a motorcycle to
carry all our own gear.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Going back to King saying, well, we just met two
hikers coming the other way who love so I thought
this was a good challenge, like June.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Asking how we recently?

Speaker 8 (59:09):
It's all paid, it's beautiful, They straightened it out, took
its huge campus, biggest one you can get.

Speaker 7 (59:17):
Well, that's what I said, I said, if we go
up again. Forty years later, I said, I want a mattress.
That's a couple exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Thank you. You deserve it.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Right, isn't there isn't there a four seasons in Alaska?
There's got to be a four seasons in Alaska?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
There's There was an article that was written. Do you
guys still have that article where some like reporter ran
into you guys on your last year?

Speaker 6 (59:40):
I was in Washington and a.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Photo of my parents and it got published in the newspaper.
Do you guys still have that? We should find that
because I would love to post that it's like basically
a profile of like, look at these crazy hippies in
their tiny motorcycle driving all the way up to we
were doing.

Speaker 7 (59:58):
We were doing our laundry, the you know, the pair
of jeans that we were switching, the only change we had.
So we were doing our laundry and he just came
up and approached us, and he took our picture and
got our names such, and then he said, uh, if
you make it. He was like, you know, this is Washington,

(01:00:20):
You're still a long way to go. So if you
make it, send me a postcard and tell me that.
So I did and that that's when he posted it.
He said, they believe.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I want to see.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Please, the movies, the movies that you made of writer
as a little kid, robbery.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I think we actually need that. We need to plan
a screening up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yes, I want to see all that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Okay, we speaking of productions at redwood Shire. I have
to talk to you about something very near and dear
to this podcast and my heart grinders inline. I recently
watched it and it was such a fun time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Capsule brought back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
So many memories of shooting up there. It was very entertaining.
You guys, produced it. We shot it at your property.
What do you remember about that, that whole production and
having all those people there and and just that whole
just producing that movie.

Speaker 8 (01:01:30):
Well, I had to build the ramp, the halfpipe. Yeah,
the half pipe. Actually bought it from somebody else at
the dis reassembled there and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Then I remember the batch stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
It was a nine foot half pipe. It was huge,
and it was a big hand pipe.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
Yes, I mean I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Wouldn't go on it. I was terrib but it was
like it was. But they put it right in the
meadow where we used to camp out in the Redwoods,
and it's it's just one of the most gorgeous spots
and so it was so perfect for filming because you
could just get these incredible shots in the middle of
the Redwoods. And yeah, I mean we attracted a lot
of talent because there was it was a big skating
community that somehow we got tapped into and came out

(01:02:14):
and just.

Speaker 8 (01:02:15):
Yeah, guy what's his name? That started? Actually that was
because Angel went up there and filmed him up in
the Tahoe I can't remember his name, be still the
biggest name in skateboarding, Tony.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Hawk. Yeah, yeah, so it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
Was it's the same thing. You know. We we did
produce a feature here Buck Naked Arson few years later.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So much and what'd you say, I said, so much fun? Yeah,
Christine Lincoln, Rusty no questions As showed up and filmed
with us for like, we shot a whole feature in
like what twelve days or fourteen days or something. It
was like one of the first digital features. We were
using the same cameras that Lucas had developed for the

(01:03:04):
new Star Wars films, and there were only like six
of them in the world, but we got we got
them two of the cameras and shot a movie in
like no time. And that was Amy Snow who was
a pa, a phone pa on a stage pa at
boys script and then she handed me the script and
I was like, this is great. We could probably shoot

(01:03:24):
this in my parents' property, and we did.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
It was so much time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
But honestly, like truly, you two and writer and Shiloh
were so ahead of your time. Now, it's very common
practice for every child actor who has a family or
a team, they start a production company and they start
doing their own stuff. But that was not common practice
in the late eighties early nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
No, So what was that good.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
What it Wasn't it as easy? Yeah? No, I could
see everybody would.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Do it yet exactly. And so that's my question is
that you guys being so ahead of your time. What
was that like for you going into it and being like,
we're just gonna We're gonna learn as we go.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
It's a stupidity. Again, No, it was.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
It was exciting to do, it was fun to do.
At the same time, it was not profitable, right, you
have to know what you're doing. You have to be
a marketing person or have a marketing person, and we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
From my perspective, what was so? I mean, what's so
amazing about you guys? As you always just approach any
project and you just do it right, You just figure
it out. And you know, like when you didn't know
how to build a house, Dad, You've always said, you
just read a book, right, read a book, figured it
out and built a house. And I think you, you
guys so admirably approached all of filmmaking the exact same way,

(01:04:43):
which is exactly right. The problem is the industry of
Hollywood is a whole another Like making a film is
one thing, right, like putting a production together, getting the
creatives getting the equipment and like all of that, you
guys thrived at and we you know, we're so good
at beause is that that can do attitude that you
bring to everything you do was perfect for independent cinema

(01:05:05):
and perfect for making projects. The problem is once the
project is finished, you need you need money in capital,
and you need marketing, and you need distribution, and you
need all these attacks and you need every content and
you know, being up in the Redwoods, really really far
from Hollywood is not super helpful in that regard. And
I don't think either one of you wanted to be
like festivals.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
No, no, we can produce things, but we don't. We can't.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Robert Record does right of a connection. No.

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
I think the value, at least with with Butt Naked
Arson and Grinders in Line earlier was I just wanted
to teach the boys that they can do it. If
they you know they can do it, you know it
can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
It's so smart.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
They're both still in the business.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Yeah, and what were your thoughts when writer decided he
wanted to stop acting?

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Hmmm, all right, I am okay, no problem.

Speaker 8 (01:06:13):
I like being home more than going this place. It
was fun for a while. You know, if you go
one or two, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
Like, Okay, I got to read all that books about it.
I reading four or five books at a time at
that time. I remember I could probably leave a book
somewhere and get another one to read it. So whenever
you going to quit Boymate's World, like sure, but.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I think I needed to hear so badly. Yeah, I
was under so much pressure at the age of sixteen.
I felt like the whole world was forcing me to
be on a TV show that I was not happy with,
you know, and I was just unhappy, and so I
really needed your support that it didn't matter to you
that you would love me no matter what. That you know,

(01:06:53):
I could. I could fail at boy Meets World and
still be a success in your eyes, you know. Like
that's that's what I know to hear from both of
you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
And you were there were.

Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
Ye just knowing that then you were.

Speaker 8 (01:07:05):
Yeah, but it was fun to see all the other
stuff you got up with afterwards that we weren't.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Involved, you know, just well, I remember after you turned sixteen,
I didn't have to be on the set right with you,
and so I writer got at Loft and Downtown Los.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Angeles, and I left on his own.

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
Yeah, and I other people were critical of that. How
can you leave a sixteen year old on their own?
And I was like, writers so ready to be that,
and he's so he's responsible. I'm not worried about that.
Plus he was working, you know, he had and you

(01:07:53):
that whole cast and crew when the swirled, we're looking
after him too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Feel that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Did you feel that confident right from the beginning with
it or was it something that at first you were
a little more hesitant about and then you grew into
the comfort of it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
I probably grew into the comfort just getting to know
everybody and the friendships and things, you know, being together
for a couple of years at that point, was you
felt together? And I just know he was being watched
over or taken care of, and he could take care
of himself even at sixteen. He was ready that old soul.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Yeah, I remember, Lynn.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We actually we talked about that once because when I
because you had told me, you know, my parents weren't
out on the set all the time, and I was
by myself sixteen seventeen, and at first you had said
to me, you were like, I'm kind of amazed you're
here by yourself. And then when Ryder had the loft hisself,
you and I had to talk where you're like, I
kind of get it now you're if you're a responsible
person and you were ready for that, then it's what

(01:08:57):
you do. So yeah, we had a cool conversation about
that where you were like, Okay, I get I get
what you were doing, I get what your parents were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
And it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
So yeah, he was he was pretty responsible this one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I mean at first you were coming down. You were
going to come down like every other week. Do you remember, mom?
You were like, I'll come down every other week and
you only did it like twice, and then you were
like okay, yeah, because then you were just sleeping in
my loft, like we had like a separate bed on
the top for you, and it was like, this is uncomfortable.
This is a sixteen year old lost. I'll just get
out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
How does it make you feel now watching writer with
a family of his own, and what are your thoughts
if Indy wanted to become an actor, what do you
guys think about that?

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
Sure, so that's what he wants to do.

Speaker 8 (01:09:44):
He's an actor already, yep, yeah, great, he's.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Taking acting clists right now, right right?

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
Yeah, Yeah, he's just so good.

Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
And he's been on a camera ever since he's been born,
so yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
We all have him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Is there a possibility of the Great Toy Caper too?
Is that possible to play there?

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Writer, Yes, let's do it. Will you guys put bags
on your head again?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Can we can we be a part of this one?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I want to be in this film.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Well, I want to thank you both for coming on here,
and I also want to thank you for raising such
a special incredible I just truly like a one of
a kind man who has meant so much to both
Will and I over the years. And I want to
end with asking you of all of the amazing qualities

(01:10:50):
Writer has, and there are many, what do you think
your favorite quality about Writer is? If you could, if
you could select one quality that Writer has and say
this is something I would want for everyone to have
her to experience. What would you say is your favorite
thing about him?

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
I agree, there's so many.

Speaker 7 (01:11:12):
His wisdom, yeah, wisdom and intelligence yeah that he applies to.

Speaker 8 (01:11:18):
Ah, yeah, I'm understanding, which he had when he was
two years old.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
He sensed it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
So man, I want to see two year old, writer,
I really need me, You really need to do a screening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Of these crying over the girl he just woke up with. Yeah,
two years, two years old. He's already been a relationship
for five years. He's angsty, he can't get over her. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Man, he enjoys that as a process.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
It motivates him, it keeps him going.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Great.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Thank you guys so much for this question.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
So cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
It's so good to see you. And we're inviting ourselves
up to Redwoodshire too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I think we should actually do whole world journey and
should I think absolutely, all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Right, we'll schedule that. Thank you both so much for me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Take care bye.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Well, writer. They killed it, crushed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
They crushed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Yeah, they're great. Oh my god, I may miss them
so much. I just want to be with them right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I know, crossing the river like meeting two people who've
just lost everything in the river, and your dad's first
instinct is sounds like a challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Sounds like a good challenge. I'm in, let's go, Lynn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I mean the stories that they tell, like, I mean, yeah,
it's just it's funny because I didn't really have perspective
on it until relatively recently, you know. I feel like
when I was little, it was always just like, well,
this is what you do. You you go into the
wilderness for six days and you figure it out and
you have a machete and you like build yourself a shelter,
and it's just like and what like, I know that's

(01:13:19):
not you know, And I used to put so much
pressure on myself too, Like I remember, you know, like
going back to how my dad never wants to pay
for anything. Like part of that is you don't pay
anybody to fix anything in your house. You fix it yourself,
like that is what you do. And I remember when
Alex and I first started dating, like something went wrong
with our old O'Keefe Merritt's stove, like one of those

(01:13:40):
old like la stoves at every like, and we had
one in Laurel Canyon and it was just a disaster.
It's like and I'm sitting there trying to fix this
stupid gas stove. I know nothing about fixing stoves, but
I also won't bring myself to like pay somebody to
do it. And Alex is just like sat me down.
She's like it's okay, Like I don't think you're less
of a man. If you can't do this because you

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can't fix a stove, it's okay. Rider just you know what,
you have other qualities. You can pay somebody use those
other qualities to make money, and then you pay somebody
else who's very good at fixing a stove to fix
it for you, and that that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
And the time you save is also worth something.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Yes, And it was like such a like okay, okay,
you know, and just ever since then, I have to
you know, I still have to remind myself. But it's like, yeah,
but my parents are you know, they're both just amazing people.
I love them so much. They they and I Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
How long they've been married now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Oh god, since seventy four. No, they bought the property
in seventy four, but they actually didn't get married. I
don't think until seventy seven. Okay, yeah, forty six years, yeah,
forty six years. But it's so funny because in their
you know, for their generation, they were late getting married
and having kids. You know, they dated for six years
before they got they actually got married. But you know,

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my mom was thirty thirty two whatever when I was born,
and that was so late. Now it's pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, now now you're actually on the early side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, your parents are amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
I have a really wonderful photo of my parents and
your parents on the cruise and they have they have
swapped and my dad is sitting on your mom's lap,
and I think my mom is sitting on your dad's
lap and it's a very cute.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
You know what, Let's talk about cruises. Let's we'll do
the cruise episode, bring them back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
We do have to have the Sale with the Stars
cruise episode because we have not talked about that, but.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
That we have, that's a that's we will do that
for sure. Oh yeah, Well, thank you all for listening
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