Lindsay Ridgeway Meets World

She may have been in a super long timeout, but now she’s free and ready to chat! You know her as “the second Morgan Matthews,” but what you don’t know are the details of how it all went down, the secrets that were kept (including from Lindsay!) and why Will might not be allowed into a LEGOLAND.

We move on from the Weasel and hear all about the birth of a brand new Morgan. 

Same World. New stories. It’s time for a new, and highly anticipated, Pod Meets World…

This episode was recorded on June 6, 2023.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded June sixth, twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Have either of you ever been to Lego Land?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, the greatest place on earth?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Yeah, we're taking we're taking to go if you don't
have kids? Apparently, so I can't go. No, truly, they
don't let single Apparently they don't. No, I don't believe
they do. Like, you can't go to Lego Land unless
you have children. You can't just be a guy at
Lego Land.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I think this is worth a Google.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
I think so right now, Google landing right now?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I mean, okay for Easton, did just say I believe
it's greatly frowned upon?

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Well, we have been every year since Indie turned three.
It's where my goss should go for his birthday. Even
last year we were like, Indy, you're a little old
for this. He was like, Nope, wants to go to
Lego Land.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Adults eighteen plus must be accompanied by at least one
child seventeen and under to enter Lego Land.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
A right, wow, school it will I am we am
VIP very parents like thats not cool.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
But also no, that's partly why it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Partly why it's great.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
Yeah, because maybe you didn't it doesn't have like yeah,
I mean, look, it's an amazing park. What's great about
it is like because Disneyland with like a three year
old can be overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh, yes it was. I went and I wanted to
poke my eyeballs out.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yes, Like India is finally, like I've talked about Nott's
Very Farm and Disneyland on this podcast with Indy Now
is wonderful. Yeah, but like pre six, I don't understand
why parents go.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
To Disneyland with kids under six.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
It's so wait now it's just hell.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I'm sorry. Another article says you don't need a child
to go to Lego Land. All you need is like
minded pals who will adore every giant minifigure, every bright
colored model, every brick of Miniland. So yes, you can
go back.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's I don't know, it's too confusing, so I'm not going.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Well, it's definitely more it's younger, right, there's no rides
right like that anybody over the age of ten would
find thrilling in any way. It's very you know, and
it's also not like there's not a whole lot of
atmospheric rides the way that Disneyland, like, you know, because
you know you can enjoy Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
It's not like a thrill ride.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
It's just more like an an experience Lego it doesn't
even really have that so much. It's more just a
vibe and you get to look at like many Lego cities,
which is cool, but it's mostly as a parent. It's
the most relaxing place in the world because you just
stroll around. It's like the right size so it's not overwhelming,
and there are kids everywhere. Everybody's having so much fun.

(02:47):
And then you have to stay at the hotel.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
We are.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
We're staying at the Lego Land Hotel, which one the
past the.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Pirate the Okay, yeah, that's where we stayed first, and
we've since moved to the Castle for.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
The last different hotiers or whatever, but either one is great.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
I was just.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Stepping on Legos the whole time. I'm just curious if
the entire ow oh got this, why do we get
this hotel room?

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like when it was a bummer. One of the coolest
displays was a Star Wars Lego display, and Disney made
them pool all of the Star Wars They had like
all they had recreated scenes, famous scenes from all the
Star Wars movies in legos.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
They were like the coolest, one of the coolest sections.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
And then when Disney opened up their Star Wars area,
right they made Lego stop, which is a bummer, but yeah, no,
it's it's wonderful, and like there's little treasure hunts throughout
the park and then yeah, they have people dresses, giant
Lego figures.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's it's the best.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, great, thank you for hyping me up for that.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because Disneyland was I was excited to take Adler, even
though I'm not like a Disney crazy adult. I just
I was excited to see it through the eyes of
my child. And then he liked it. But he just
could not understand the concept of waiting in line for
an hour and then being on a ride for three minutes,
and then when the ride would end, other people were

(04:04):
getting onto the cars and you'd go, no.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's a mine.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
He like, he thought he had waited for two hours
and now he just owns this thing.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah, no, Lego Land, you will never wait more than
like thirty minutes for anything. Yeah, and make sure you
bring if he has little minifigures. Yeah, characters. You bring
one and he can trade with any Lego Land employee.
You can trade your figure for one of their figures.
They usually have like figures that they have like either
in their pocket or whatever. So you're constantly trading. And
I highly recommend before you go you make an agreement

(04:33):
that you're only going to buy like one Lego set
because there's multiple Lego stores on the part, and so
we made the agreement with Indy, like the first time
we went, We're not buying any Legos until the end
of the day. We hit the big Lego like the
main Lego store on the way out, and you get
one set at r because otherwise, you know.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Are there bars, are there a lot of Lego drinking
going on there?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
There is drinking, which is wonderful. You can actually drink
a Lego Land.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's great.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
There's one area where there's like a like you can
just let them run wild in like a playground area
with like bridges and slides and stuff. It's great.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's pretty cool, all right.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
It's so much better for under six year olds than
like other theme parks.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, Danielle, I'm like you, I'm not a disney freak either,
but going to Disneyland once every couple of years for
like a day, Oh yeah, fun.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Totally, It's pretty.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
And then we were doing We're doing our live show
in Orlando in September, and we were September seventeenth, and
we were talking about staying for an extra day or
two to go to Disney World and check that out.
And now it looks like we probably won't be able
to do that because we're so busy in September. I know,
but it Yeah, that would have been fun. I haven't
been a disney World in years.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I don't know if I would recognize any part
of it.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't think I would change.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
James always growing, evolving.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, we should though, plan maybe next summer we should
plan a little like I don't know where writers travel
plans are next summer, but.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
We should try.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
We could do We should just plan a group family
trip to Disney World just for funzies.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I like that, Okay, like that. I also think you
still need to do the group family camping trip because
I want to.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
My kids are still I think at least one year
too young. Keaton is one year too young, but once
he hits three. I think then I'll be ready.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Even when was the last time you went camping?

Speaker 7 (06:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
God, man, I camped all the time all throughout high school.
So probably you know, high school, like early twenties.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
You moved to La.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Oh no, early twenties.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, no, yeah, no, when I moved to La it
was probably probably when I stopped camping, you know, because.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I had a home. You came up to You came
up to my parents' house.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
Do you remember going to the urt? Yeah? You had
the ur song?

Speaker 7 (06:45):
Do you no?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
I want to know the.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Song.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
You had a whole walk.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
And so my.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Brother built a yurt. If people know what a yurt is,
it's a Mongolian tent like structures, like the round tents.
It's like very very nineteen seventies northern California, And so
Shiloh built one in the woods when he was sixteen.
It's still there, and he put he built a deck
and put it up and he had been living in

(07:11):
it for a little while. But anyway, you came up
and visited. I guess boy was still going on.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Maybe that just ended.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
You and Greg came up and we were just we
decided to make an adventure out to the yurt at
like ten o'clock at night, and you were like, let's
go to the yurt and you started doing this. I
can't do it because we're a radio. We can't, but
you did this walk You're like a yurt.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
You just he did this.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
I can't. I have to like demonstrate with my body,
but you had us dying.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Hell, hanging out with wilfred Ell in the woods is
one of the funnest experiences.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
It was me and my friend Alyssa was visiting from
New York, my friend Melissa and so we were all
we had made it. I just like it was just
like we went to the yurt.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I don't think we slept there. We just went to
the yurt and hung out and came back.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
But I was.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Crying and I still was still singing a yurt song.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Was it will Fredell or was it fresh Boy who
came up with the song? That's the question, is rapning
Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right
or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
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Speaker 1 (08:27):
This one is going to be very special. It's the
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Speaker 2 (08:39):
We cannot wait to see you there. So today's episode,
the disappearing then reappearing tale of Morgan.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Matthews is ingrained in the history of Boy Meets World,
and until we started this podcast, the entire saga was
a bit of a mystery for fans. It is true
that at the end of season two, the young actress
who played the youngest of the Matthews children was relieved
of her duties, probably something she had hoped would happen
much earlier, and her absence wasn't addressed at all when

(09:12):
we came back the next season. That is until a
completely different young actress appeared as the same character.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Wellie will shaked a different actor.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Let's keep it all in, okay, That is, until a
completely different young actress appeared as the same character thirteen
episodes later. We weren't the first to do it. There's
Aunt Viv and Roseanne's Becky. Heck, it wasn't even the
first time we did it. Never forget Harley and Chubby,
but this particular switcheroo is one of the moments we're
asked about most, even thirty years later, and the child

(09:54):
actress who was once a replacement went on to appear
in seventy five episodes of Boy Meets World and not
only to become a fan favorite but part of our
family in many ways.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
We are thrilled to.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Welcome to Pod Meets World number two on Wikipedia, but
she shares first place in our hearts.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's Lindsay Ridgeway, what.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Is up.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
A long time?

Speaker 7 (10:24):
Like you guys are all waiting like we don't know
what she looks like as a human adult person.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
It's I know, We've done it. You're eleven, absolutely not
even worse.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
I'll be thirty eight this month.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
My gosh.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That was something that occurred to me when I was
figuring out what questions we were going to talk to you, like,
what we were going to talk to you about.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
You were only four years younger than me.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
But that's a huge difference at that age.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know, I fifteen and eleven.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Yeah, In doing my so full disclosure, I came in
to today knowing that I was woefully like not purposefully
did not listen completely to a lot of these episodes
because I came into the show in season three where
it was like, already done, everyone's already knowing each other,
already cool families, there the unit, and then like I

(11:19):
come in, I'm like, don't know anybody, don't know what's happening.
I treated this the same way. I'm like, I'm just
gonna come in and just be fresh, just like not
not have any context.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I'm just kidding, smart, smart, honestly.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
But I did. Honestly, I did listen to the one
full episode I listened to because I loved it. I
loved it, loved to love this so much, and actually
took like a huge amount of janky notes on this
notepad during it was the group therapy group therapy world.
I was like, yes, my people, Yes, because as a kid,

(11:54):
I'm like these guys are older and they know more
and they're doing all this. But now I'm like, no,
we all about the same stuff going on. We're all parents,
step parents, pet parents, aging family members. Now we're all
just like in the adult mode and it's such a
different dynamic. Yes, we're all we're all the same age now, Yes, right,

(12:14):
exactly the same category, right totally, but then the dynamic
is so different. And I obviously spent like way more
hours in the school room than you all did, just
by purely like being cut from the show. Just cut
scene after scene. We don't need you, We don't need you, Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I want to get into that, because of course we don't.
We probably don't have memory of that because it wasn't
It wasn't us.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
So I want to jump into that.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But where we start a lot of our interviews, and
I want to start with you as well, how old
were you when you first got into acting?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And do you remember what made you want to start acting?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
It's so interesting because I don't think like at the
point that I did start, And to be clear, I
started like on stage as a theatrical performer, so which
is a whole other thing. And it's so weird because
I work in that in the live theater industry now
too as an adult, and so I'm like, it's come
it's all come back. So performing live as a kid

(13:13):
was where I started, and then just an agent just
literally saw me in a in a performance and approached
my parents about representing me. So I didn't have to
do any of these weird you hear about it now,
like well I have to go read, you know, for
all these people and they have to choose, it's like
way more stressful. I don't I don't know as an adult,
as like a teen or an adult choosing to go
into acting, it would be so much more of a

(13:34):
weird different experience.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
How old were you then, I was like probably.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Six sixty years old. Yeah, performing because you know, singing
it was first and so.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I remember that about you.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
And then I was in the first my size Barbie
that was ever made. That was I was in the commercial.
I was the same height as the Barbie. We were
both just very similar. I could fitted to the Barbie's clothing,
which was the whole point of the thing, like you
can wear Barbie's outfit.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Also, it seems like something that's going to come alive
at night and strength.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
About great movie. By the way. I loved it so
much more more scary and my I know my parents
will listen to this. They have it like in the garage,
just like chilling. I'm like, please get this, really, just
get this out of your home, like I can't, I can't.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
It leaves at night by itself anyway, So don't worry
about it.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
It's fine, and it probably has my voice somewhere.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Because I want to wear its clothes.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
Yeah, you know what, that's a whole other true crime
podcast that we can get into another time.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Were your parents entertainers?

Speaker 7 (14:48):
No, well, I guess my mom counts us. But she
was a newscaster on the radio. So she did the
news in the morning. And actually, like that's the whole
other thing. My parents they met. My dad read the
stock report on the news in the morning because he's
a stockbroker, and then he like proposed to her live
on the radio and she like cut a commercial. It
was like super embarrassing for everyone. I know, adorable. You know,

(15:10):
they're divorced. Now it's great. I talk about it because
because we all get along as a family and we can.
But yeah, no, no super performer history. I just used
to just would would love singing and so it's essentially and
so yeah, so when and then that parlayed into commercials
purely of the Barbie variety.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Right, I'm with you. I also started in barb Barbie commercial.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
Pocket things all that stuff, like we all had to
do it, and they cared way more about the Barbie's
hair and makeup and things than the people, because like
I would just be waiting like that, we need to
touch up Barbie's hair. Barbie's okay, another reason why it's alive, right,
will Yes, Barbie is alive? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Does anybody actually know Barbie's last name? Because Barbie has
a last name.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
She does have last name. I'm forgetting it now when
you say, I'm gonna yes, Barbara.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Barbreath, Barbie Roberts.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yep, good old Babs.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I noticed before you made it to Boy Meets World,
I noticed in your IMDb history you were ten years
old on a show on a show called Bless This House,
which was created by Bruce Helford and starring Andrew dis Yeah,
what do you remember from that?

Speaker 7 (16:23):
So one? Deero? Do I remember about it? Which I
also completely identified with you, Danielle saying that like some things,
you just do not remember, like you have no recollection.
And what I do remember comes from my parents who
were obviously there all the time. My mom was one
of those like child labor laws, you can't make my

(16:44):
kid work. Now I'm out, and I love and trust one.
I'm thankful for that for that frame of mind now,
especially as a parent myself, and you know it it was.
I just remember her saying it was a very volatile
situation like that, that was very weird. And who was
the woman that was on it? What was her name?
Oh gosh, she was in the movie Casper, the one

(17:07):
who played the mom. What was her name? She had short,
blond ter and I think, so, I want to say,
when you say her name, I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like, yes, Kathy Moriarty, Kathy Moriarty.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Was that her? Yes? I think she was the female lead,
I want to say. And I don't remember a lot
about it. I just remember that my mom was like,
we kept you sort of in the school, like we
kept you in one place until you had to go.
And that was so short lived too. I really don't
I really don't remember. I think one of the only
memories I have of it is the whole walkout right

(17:42):
where they introduced him for the live audience and you
just all walk out onto a set like That's kind
of what I remember. I don't know. I could not
tell you my character's name, I couldn't tell you what
I said. I couldn't tell you anything about it, to
be honest.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
So you were you were very into singing.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
And then also you started with voice acting as well, right.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
I I feel like these were all like around the
same time. I did a few I did, like episode
of Sonic maybe the headshot Sonic tune. That other voiceover
credit that's on my IMDb page is absolutely inaccurate, Like
I didn't even do whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Cartoon totally spies. I think it says didn't do that.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Don't know what that is, don't remember it?

Speaker 6 (18:23):
No, No, because my mom, do you get the residual
checks for it?

Speaker 7 (18:26):
I don't know. Yeah, that fifty cents comes in handy
for sure.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, you say, your parent, I'm sorry. I'm still stuck
on the fact that you had kids just one.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Just one, yeah old. She just turned three in April.
She was born in April of twenty twenty. You guys,
it was that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine what that hospital
situation was like for you.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Oh, my husband couldn't leave to like.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Go anywhere, like he was able to be there.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Yes, he was the only one because you know, like
his family, my first grandkid for both sides of the family.
So it's like a whole lot of pressure to like
we're getting there. We're flying and driving by car, boat,
a train right to get there. Like, yeah, no one
can see her right now, like one hundred percent you can't.
So when she was about four weeks old when everyone

(19:18):
got to finally meet her for the first time. But
it was Yeah, it was intense for sure. I think
nothing like it, really, I can't. I know. You guys
have either older or kid that was born after the
initial craziness, right, Daniell your second kids twenty one, So
that's like you had you had a.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Better Yeah, twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one, if you
missed the whole Yeah, it was a whole middle.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So let's get into your audition for Boy Meets World.
You were eleven when you started in season three. What
do you remember about your audition.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
And turning eleven my audition, I was told, well, I
remember it was raining because I had to run across
the curve and that was very dangerous at the time. Show. Yeah,
that's like I was in the rain. It was bad.
It was ragerous on the curb the street.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It never rained.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
Right falling from the sky. What is this phenomenon? But
the show that I auditioned for was not going to
all the sides weren't the script if I was told
it was a completely different show, Uh, it was a
guest starring role for a completely made up situation. And
they're like, yeah, it's just a guest starring role for
this right, cool read for it. I think I had

(20:40):
to go back in because this was the time where,
like I think now they do like video submissions, right,
you have to leave your house sometimes audition ersu but no,
like we had a hall to the first audition, you
had to go home and you're likeep, deep, let me
a haul back in two days later they want to
see you again. So I had to go back in
and I landed it. I got I got the agent

(21:01):
called and said you got it, and just so you know,
like it's actually for a recurring role for this show
that already exists. And so that was like what So
they lied to me?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
What a what a weird secret super.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
And and I was like is this and I think
of it now, I was like, was it really that weird?
Like did they have to completely go covert on this?
Like you know, there's how do they do that on
like giant movies?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
You know, because they want to like you know, they
don't want agents and managers calling and like enough require that.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah one keeping it out of the press. It's not
like we were getting pressed for anything anyway, So it
is and like.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
This is a time where no one followed you around.
There was no weird like social media people to be
like stalking you in your daily lives to be like
what is this for? Huh huh? Is it for a
boy world? And to me, none of that. So it
was very weird.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
But would do with the fact that I was replacing
Lily that to keep.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Trying to keep it. Maybe really didn't.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Her family or she didn't hear something about it, or
something's going to maybe call her and say, hey, why
why are they auditioning for your role, which which totally
makes sense. And I feel like she was, I mean,
she's younger than me, I believe, maybe yeah, for years
and uh, you know, so I don't know how much
of that would have affected her to be like hurting
her feelings, but yeah her and I mean her dad

(22:28):
would produce it, right, her dad's in the industry still
and whatnot, So I don't know, I feel like that
must be the reason why. But I truly coming into that,
like I had no concept of what had occurred with her,
what had occurred in general with that role, Like I
had zero concept of why that was occurring, or why
they were replacing or aging up the character or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Had you seen Boy Meets World at all in seasons
one or two?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
I don't think so, no, because when I look at
those episodes, like I have no I don't even know
like those and like the thug guys you know, and
all those like bullies, like they weren't in what they
they started to like not have those plotlines really anymore
when I came in the only So, yeah, this morning
I attempted to watch my first I say attempted because

(23:13):
like I had this, I was like, I can't watch myself.
This is per I can't do it. I won't be
able to listen to this me talking without like cringing completely.
But yeah, I was watching it, and I was just thinking, like, wow,
people must have been like really confused.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
We haven't got full disclosure. We haven't gotten to your
episodes yet.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
So I just watched like twenty minutes of the because
it's fourteen it's like fourteen episodes into season three. Granted
we had like way more episodes per season then like
now it's like what a standard eight or ten one
of a show and it's like, no, no, you guys
are here for twenty four episodes, but buckle up.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
So do you remember anybody else or did you know
anybody else who was auditioning for it? And do you
then remember the phone call for when you got it?

Speaker 7 (24:03):
My parents got all the calls. I don't think I
ever like you know, at the time it was, I
was probably at school and then they probably waited till
I got home from school and like, hey, guess.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
What you got this?

Speaker 7 (24:13):
So because I went to public school in my hometown
for the duration that I was on this show, if
I was not there at the set, I was at
my school.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
And where did you grow up?

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Your buddy is going to school Riverside, So just a
little bit outside of where you guys are. Yeah, So did.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
You celebrate, Like do you remember then finding out you
got the show? Oh guess what, surprise, it's not the
show you auditioned for. It's a different show. Did you
guys do anything to celebrate, like it's a recurring role?
Was it a big deal or was it just another
day in your life.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, Like, no, I'm sure it was a big deal
at the time. I just feel I I do, and
I'm and I'm grateful for it. As I say now
as an adult, it wasn't. I don't think it was
made to be like the only cool thing going on
for me as a kid, which I think is good.
I think it's you know, I'm sure my parents probably
talked about it after I went to bed and they
were like, that's cool, Like, oh, kid actually got this,

(25:06):
you know, But at the time it was probably just
like okay, and also knowing too, like I'm like I've
heard well mentioned before, you know, a few episodes, like
it could go away so fast, you write, So it's
just like any pilot you could or even any recurring
guest star whatnot, you could just they could just be
like now we're gonna kick it, and so you never
truly know. So I feel like also there's that element

(25:27):
of like, this is good, but we also don't want
to bank on this being correct. We're going to concentrate on.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I have a question for you, uh, Danielle and Ryder,
just curiously, do either of you remember because I don't
remember ever being talked to about Hey, we're replacing Lily.
Do you remember any conversation of we're going to get
a new actor.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
I think they saved it because I remember we were
all dying at the table read, like I remember it
was one of the funniest yes, And I think they
had saved it as a reveal. Yes, yes, when you came, Yeah,
because you remember when you enter, you're like, I've been
in my room for a.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Very long time on a very long time out. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
And so I think I, knowing knowing Michael's flair for
the dramatic, I have a feeling he probably brought you
in for the table read and stood up and made
an announcement about you entering the cast, and then we
all read it and we I just remember the table
I just remember. I don't remember that speech. I'm just
saying that sounds like something because Michael used to make

(26:41):
speeches before and after table reads and like right, And
I have a feeling he would have welcomed you to
the cast knowing that you were you know, and I
think you know it was a tricky thing because Lily
had been gone and we all knew that that had
you been sort of fraught, So you coming in, I
feel like he would have made a very special announce
but I don't think he would have prepped us ahead
of time, because I remember all of us loving your
entrance and thinking it was so funny that we were

(27:03):
like commenting on it, you know, and just and then
I and then I remember you and your mom just
being like the coolest people ever, Like there was no
you were you were so confident, Like it felt like
you were already like a twenty five year old professional
singer who was like slumming it as an actor, Like
that was the vibe. You always had that vibe, And

(27:23):
it's so funny to think about now, like, yeah, like
you just always seemed like completely confident and in control,
like you and your mom were like, yeah, we know
what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, it's that's Nolan Michael. That's also another reason I
bet why they made it a secret audition is he
didn't want any eight and of our agent's calling going,
you know, they're recasting, so it's just like we're going
to keep it completely private. And because it was, it
was such a good it's it's our Because one of
the things we've been talking about, especially with now starting
season three, is some of the entrances of new characters

(27:54):
aren't great, like the are The entrance of Alex Bezier's
character was a terrible entrance for his character. It's just right,
and your entrance is arguably one of the best entrances
of any cast member of Boy Meets World.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Well, I think they wised up because you talked about
the Harley replacement is so weird and awkward and like,
and I think that, you know, it just finally like
let's break the fourth.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wall and just make a joke.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
And it worked, yeah, right, and and I mean then
to bring the joke back, it's like on girl having
both of us in the same room, right, that's Bonker's ridiculous,
Like you would we even do that at that point?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
It just it doesn't matter. It's just like, yeah, let's
bring a boat.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
That's fine, like here, you know, I mean if it
were I thought about it after the fact, like this
is years after, because this is years ago now, and
I do remember the producer's reaction to seeing me as
an adult there too, and they were all just like, ah, get.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Out, like it's weird, it's weird.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
But I was thinking, like, man, it kind of would
have been better if it was like multiple scenes and
we were interchangeable and like not in the same place, right,
Like that would have been like the ultimate.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
You looked different. What are you talking about it?

Speaker 7 (29:08):
I was just here not sure what you guys are
talking about.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
From shot shot, I feel like, yes.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Exactly, Like it's like a jump cut and then jump
come back and it's a new person like straight, you know,
like the Haunting of Hill House where they in that
one shot where they replaced the adults with the kids
back just like that.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Do you remember anything about that first week and how
you felt. You mentioned when we started this podcast today
that like there was that a little bit of a
feeling of like, this is already an established.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Family, And yes, did you do you remember.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
That feeling of like, oh I have to somehow fit
into this already established group.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
It's a weird. Yeah, it's a weird vibe. And I
always sort of felt too, like I mean, I was
obviously the youngest person right a before the new baby
came on. I was like cool baby boy, and that
was Mike, that was Michael's son, Right, I'm not remembering
that wrong, Okay? And yes, so I always felt like

(30:11):
out of the loop because everyone was like already in
this loop, you know, and then it's like and I'm
over here, and you know, even with the even with
Rusty and and Betsy and everybody like that, you know,
like they you all had your your thing and like
writer and Danielle, like I have probably had such a
little time with you guys, like.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Did we I was wondering this, did you and I
ever have a scene together? Like did we ever have line?
I don't think we to each other all about together.
You might not have interacted, but you're in big I
swear to god, I don't think Sean says a.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Single line, I truly do.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
I think we have to keep it eye for this
because I was thinking about I was like, I don't
think like we hung out on the backstage, but like
we would never I don't think I ever on stage
looked at you and said a line.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
No, I don't think. I was thinking about that too,
And like same with Matt Lawrence, right, like I probably
never had anything with him. And I know the most
the most scene time I had with with Danielle with
you with the wedding episodes, which are all like leading
up to the hardest thing for me ever to film
on this darn show it. You know, tried to not

(31:19):
say the cuss word in that scene and rust you
to cover my mouth at the right time. It came
out multiple times. I was like, I can't not say it.
It has to sound natural, right right, and it can't
sound like.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yeah, I remember thrown it out at the table read
I remember you just like that was the word that
was like the time I said, and it was Everyone's like, oh, okay,
I guess we're just throwing there.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Oh no, well, and it's like, you know, I did
Ruthless the musical on stage when I was eight and
had to say like the F word like other things
on stage, like as an eight year old kid. So like,
for me, for the sake of the aart, you should
say it right. You need to be there, like you
need to have it ready to go. It's got to
be locked and loaded to be natural. And I just
and I something I do remember, and like I love

(32:03):
Rosie Sellers, but I do remember at one point just
be like, this guy just needs to put his hand
on my face like he was he was afraid to
like physically grab my face, which I totally appreciate as
an adult man. In a scene with a child. But
at the point I'm like, you just got to yank it,
just yes.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
I can't say this one more time, right, and then
what and you know, then night we had like Jacob's
back there, just like it's bottom you gotta gop and.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
You're like, I can't do it if someone is just
not going to cover my Actually, that's absolutely the only
thing I remember about Jacob's all right. Oh, like that's it.
That's all I remember. And to this day, like my
mom will still do that. She'll just be like you good,

(32:51):
but we're like, no, no, we can't bring that back
into the We gotta keep that back where it belongs.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We're not bringing that up.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
And I remember thinking when I came for just the
one single episode of Girl Mes World first, I was like,
oh my god, Laurie is still here doing the hair
for the show, Like.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Right, oh my gosh, I recognize these crew members.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
Oh my god. Yeah. And then I'm like okay, and
we got like Mark Budskang over here, like we've got
all these dudes, and then Michael Jason, I like, how
does he look exactly the same, Like this man is
a vampire. She just looks like exactly the same, and
I remember him as a kid, which was very trippy
because I'm like here, I am looking legit, fifteen years older, right,

(33:33):
and no one else has said. Everyone's just like, no,
we've stopped aging here, great caught up books now, thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Question for you about the schoolroom. Was dand Holmes your
teacher or did you have I had Wesley?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Okay, most, that's what I thought. I thought you had
mostly had Wesley.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Stay. I do remember David for some time, but it
was like also they divided them, right like so you
guys got some and then I but I mostly had
Wesley as mine. And who had those horrible hissing cockroaches
and pets?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Do you remember his cockroaches? I love them, my god?

Speaker 7 (34:09):
No, okay, absolutely not keep them away from me? At
a whole cast, I.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Told the story that we left them there while we
were gone over the summer, and when we came back
they had escaped and read and they were there.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
And then there are still his cockroaches at ktla'.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
And it is our fault and we have admitted it.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
Now.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Yeah, no, that's what I do. Remember that and David
I remember slightly, but I didn't have him. I think
I don't think I had him as my main teacher.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah, so when you got there, we were in the
divided KTLA and we had those two rooms, and Wesley
became your primary teacher, and I think I was with David,
but then I must have graduated like that year. I
think we were only in the school room for like yeah, yes,
and then I probably probably right, and then David last one,
and then I think Wesley was there for for d
and Yell and it was just two yeah, and other.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Guest stars that came through that like need to be there.
And then I think at some point they probably had
like other ones they would bring in if we had
other guest star well that needed them. But yeah, no,
and I spent I mean like I spent a lot
of time in school room like that was my that
was my jam, you know. And then there would be
times where we get through because what table reads for

(35:25):
Fridays and then we would come back on Monday for
rehearsal block and shoot and whatever pre shoot live audience
on Thursday. There would be a time like where we
get to live audience thing on Thursday and they'd be like, yeah,
well your scene's got So I was just yeah. There
are some episodes now where I'd be like, oh, man,
I was supposed to enter just then, so they.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Would You'd be in the script all week, you'd be
there all week, you'd rehearse all week, and then sometimes
right at the last minute, they would just cut in
for time.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
I assume and or I know. I know that for
some of them it was a worktime hours issue also,
like we're gonna lose Lindsay and thirty and if we
can't shoot it, then it can't happen. And you know,
credit to my parents, my mom, They're like, no, we're
not gonna let our ten year old stay here for
two more hours on a Thursday. You know, like we're

(36:21):
not doing that. And so yeah, there were instances where
I know it was time, but then our time, our
work hours. But then I'm yeah, then it was just
like I'm always the first person to go, oh my god,
and it's fine. You know, there comes a point to
where your name's just on the credits of every episode anyway,
regardless of whether you're in the episode. So that's cool,

(36:41):
my name, you got paid, I got paid.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I got bad.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
The thing is that even if they cut you and
you don't. You don't end up taping, you still get
paid for that week.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
So yeah, exactly, it's a week by week basis. But there,
but when I was a recurring guest or that I
didn't that, I don't believe it was. I mean, you know,
there was a time where then I became a series
series regular. Also, I was watching the first episode I
was ever in for season three. I have no idea
what those main titles were. That weird song with like
the weird colored picture like overlas.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, a cool one.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
I had forgotten that.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Remember that one. I just remember the with the car
and he's like, come, I'm give it in the car
and everyone we remember that.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
That's the worst one. That's the worst one. That's season four.
Must be season four.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
We just kept changing them.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
I think I think we have to recreate that one.
That we should do a whole photo day created those opening.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
Credits end and then like the side of your mirror
and then it's just me just like a great shot.
Love that.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
No, I think you and I worked together more than
for for this crew, because you were part of the family.
You and I worked together more than anybody else. Yeah,
I just remember you fitting in and you were like
you liked the joke and you could hit the joke
and you knew the joke. And I remember one specific scene.
I don't know why this this comes into my head,
maybe because it was such a pivotal episode, but it's
you singing loser freak.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
I had to make it up. I had to make
it up.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
And it was like great and you had and you
had Ben and I laughing the whole time, and I remember.
So what I remember is you're coming down the stairs
singing He's a woman hating loser freak, and you're singing
it like right in my ear, and Ben and I
keep laughing, and you came up to us and you're like,
are you laughing at me? Like am I doing something wrong?
And I'm like, no, you're making us laugh, Like you're

(38:36):
actually cracking us up in the scene because you would
come in and you're the way you were like hitting
the notes like right in my ear. It was really funny.
So Ben and I kept losing it and you thought
we were laughing at you, and you're like, why are
you laughing at me? He's like, no, you're making us
laugh with your performance. So it was great.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
It was the episode laughing at me, like still to
this day, Well now you are.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
But then we were laughing. Right now we're laughing at you.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
You're just not in on this joke because this is
not even a podcast right now. You don't even know that.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
I've been drunk. It it makes me, It makes my
adults so happy here to know that maybe I wasn't
completely out of the circle of trust if you will
trust and like I and I don't you know, I
remember more about like the behind the scenes that like

(39:30):
like like Ryder was saying, we had like that gum
drawer that was hidden that we would just like constantly
be chewing gum out of there, and like the stairs
obviously if you went up too fast behind that kitchen,
like you were gonna go down like like and also
is that legal anymore? Can I don't think like a.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Cliff like and like immediately do a U turn, You're
gonna into a drum.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
Wall right now? Like a lawsuit pending currently the ocean violation.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Do you have any like real specific favorite memories from set.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Definitely the gum drawer and candy drawer because that was
and then and I would always be chewing gum and
it's so weird because to this day, like I have
like a major TMJ problem, and I'm like, it's all
this gum choy I did as a kid, Like it's
for real ruin my dram muscle. But I will not
give it up. I chew gum constantly to this day.
For you, my dentist is like, please stop. I am
begging you.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
First of all, you should stop going to the dentist
before you stop chewing gum. That's the thing. That's what
we need to know here, important safety tip today exactly priorities.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
This is from will Fredelle personally. Yeah, and I remember
my mom would have to come like, and Michael Jacob would.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
Be like but I and my mom would have to
literally come up and and you don't ever want to
think like cause then you're just like, oh bad, I
made my mom.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
I made my mom carry my gut. But like the
stuff I've had to fish out of my three year
old's mouth, I'm like, yeah, one hundred percent, as a parent,
that's just what you do. I remember having to spit
out my gum multiple times. I remember when Jennifer loved
Hugh it came to the set. I remember that being
a big deal and lent the biggest, the biggest memory

(41:21):
I had to because my sister would would come to
the taping nights. She'd go to school and my dad
and my sister would call meet us for like the
live taping nights and things like that, so then she
would always get to hang out with everyone, which was
really awesome. And the yes, specifically when you guys did
the lip syncs to the insinct songs.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yes, yeah, that's a crowd favorite.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
I mean it's good. I mean I wouldn't say that
it was like great performances from you guys, but like no, kid.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
It was Matt Lawrence. Matt Lawrence was a great performance.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Lawrence could actually dance, you could Dan, and then the
other the rest.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Of the three of us, it was just the backup.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
And I do I do remember, and I think you
guys mentioned this too that like Ben would always say
like rubbish garbage things right before they would call action
to like make everybody try and just completely mess up
what they were doing. He would just come down and
just like just go like us, like you pretending to
talk in your face or bring up a topic that
you're just like wait what and then they're like Nope,

(42:22):
we got to start.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Over four was ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
I used to ride the boom mics like down when
they would roll them. Oh yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's fun.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
You would jump up there and then just jump up there.
Also probably highly unsafe.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, they probably didn't love that, but they do that.
I didn't like, that's cool.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Yeah, I would just be like it was Steve right,
Steve was the stage, the stage, very tall.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Having a baby.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Are you now you were eleven when you started the show,
ten turning it? Yeah, ten turning eleven, and then so
you did from ten to you were fifteen fifteen when
we ended. Okay, yep, that's cool. Yeah, because I remember
by the end they'd really changed your character where you
were kind of the sassy one line.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
It was, yeah, well but it is, but like you know,
self esteem issues rife are rife within this, like remembering
for me personally, because such negative comments about my character
from people in the ether, you know, like why they
make Morgan so rude, I like the only one better
and like stuff like that, which is so fine, but

(43:35):
also like again I was a kid doing what they
were saying, like this is how it's supposed to be,
Like you were gonna be rude. You're yeah, like come
down the stairs and act like you own the place.
I'm like, okay, that's that's what it calls.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Yeah, very very rarely ten or eleven. As an actor,
you go in, can we really talk about my character?
Because I feel we're taking her if you go okay, yeah, exactly, So.

Speaker 7 (44:01):
You're looking dramaturgically at my character right now, I would
like to say, you know, no, you don't argue with that,
and then you just continue on that path, and then
you and then you're pigeonholed into this one thing that
works for the the you know, the greater good if
you will of the show, right, and then you're you know,
you you get into that zone and then it's hard

(44:23):
to leave that and and and then essentially too, like
if you know that your lines might not make it
into final cuts of things, you know too, that sort
of has a role in how you approach it. I'm
not sure, like I do not know, like later, you know,
in the ages of fourteen to fifteen, I kind of
went into every week thinking like, oh, what's going to

(44:44):
get sholved this time? Like it was a joke to
me myself, so I'd be like, all right, whatever, Yeah,
you want me to wear the tankini? Bye, and I'll
just wear it fine, I will wear across the top.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
What is a tankini?

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Did you not remember that episode?

Speaker 5 (45:03):
We haven't gotten there yet.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You don't remember it either, what do you do?

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Well? If you look, just have me come back for
that one. It's great, Okay, it sounds.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
Like a drink.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Is that as.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
Exactly he's got correct?

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Of course writer would know it.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yes, of course writer's got one on right now.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Under I heard.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
Lulu Lemonda probably does still tanking news for men, So
you should go try one on.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Would you let your your child act if they wanted to?
She wanted to?

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Dude, it's such a do you guys all get that
question too? For your kid? Are you?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Are you right?

Speaker 7 (45:42):
I meant the two, the two will. Congrats to you friends.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Congratulations on your childhoodious, thank you you have not sunk
lower beneath.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
No, I I get that a lot too. Like going
to at, I'm like at. My first reaction is like,
oh right, absolutely not. Like I want my kid to
like invent the cool robot that will take care of
me as an elderly person, like I want her to
do that cool stuff, right and be part of like
new things that are going to be another cause for

(46:19):
success in society. But like, honestly, I can't argue with
the fact that she is exactly like me and she
rolls around singing doing all that stuff, wants to take
dance class and do all those things. But I I
don't find the need to encourage her in that direction.
I think that if we do our job as parents
and we do present things in a realistic way and

(46:42):
don't idolize certain things over others and just sort of
keep that neutral ground, that you are setting someone up
as an individual child, teenager, young adult to make their
own decision. And you know, I eventually had to get
to that point too, right where I'm like, you know,
I don't like this doesn't serve me and my needs

(47:03):
and what I want to accomplish, and so you have
to forge your own path if you will. But yeah,
it's a question. I get a lot. And and I
think people assume as kids too, that your parents like
force you into these things, and I don't think that
that's true. I mean I don't like for me, it
just sort of went It was like one thing snowballed

(47:24):
into all these other things, right, and then you just
find yourself in this path that you didn't quite choose,
but you also didn't quite stop, and then you're in
this dynamic right that you have to.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You're like, oh, I have a career to manage suddenly, oh.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
And I am eight. This is wonderful, right. But I
can also just say, like, thank goodness for the precautions
that were put in place for the unfortunate situations with
child actors in the past that had to deal with
such terrible conditions, working hours, getting their money taken by
their parents and their family members. Like these things were
put in then there were there were things put in

(47:57):
place for kids like us that didn't have to do
that go through that and like be subject to those things,
which I also find a very positive a positive aspect,
But you know, it's it, I I don't know. I mean,
I don't want to make put words in my kid's
mouth and say like no, you're not allowed to do

(48:17):
that mom orself as well. But I just feel like
opening opening hobbies and opening you know, your mind to
different things and exposing them to different things throughout their
life will make all the difference, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
And when you came and did Girl Meets World and
you were in that scene with Lily.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Was that the first time you and Lily had ever met?

Speaker 7 (48:40):
I don't think so. I want to say that I
probably had seen her at some other point in time,
because we did, but specifically for like when the DVDs
were released, we all got together for like commentary and things.
I feel like there's been other instances in which I
had met her, but obviay just those younger in the
younger twenties time. But it's probably we do a photo shoot.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
We did a photo shoot together, like for Entertainment Weekly
or something to you.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
We all went to a house and yeah, whatnot? And
and yeah because I because I remember that Bill was there,
Bonnie and a bunch of other bogues.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
But that was the Entertainment Weekly around the time of
Girl Meets World, like that.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
What we earlier, I wasn't. Yeah, I was like.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Two or something time ago somewhere you.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Were there, Daniel, Yeah, you were.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I believe you.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
I believe you, believe us.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I do.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I just I've given I've given given it over.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
The Entertainment Weekly shoot, you are looking for what are you?

Speaker 6 (49:44):
What are you doing now?

Speaker 7 (49:46):
Me? Yeah, a lot of it. I know what they're doing,
jedis No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. So I work in
the nonprofit field, specifically and development of fundraising, so I
may prefertional fundraiser and as an adult at one of
the largest regional theaters in the United States currently here

(50:08):
in Atlanta. That's where I am. Yes, the atl if
you will. I've people ask you, like where my accent
is from. I'm like, no, I'm just from so in California. Bro,
where are you from? My kid just said dude and
bro this week and I'm.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Like, yes, keep it up. Nice.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Yeah. So you know I'm involved in, you know, raising
money for causes and that I believe in things. I think,
you know, the arts is it's such an important thing
to preserve, especially live performance and being as that's where
I started. I love being able to bring that to
as many people as possible. Just watching my kid go
to live theater performances now as a kid and experiencing

(50:54):
that it's so great, and so I just really want
to I really want to open her eyes in that
respect too, because I feel like when we were kids
and when.

Speaker 10 (51:05):
We were on this show, it was such an elevated
status right to be on TV, Like anybody anywhere with
a computer and or phone and or tablet can be on.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
The screen and do whatever they want and get a
bunch of attention and get a bunch of whatnot and
go viral for their videos and certain things like we
didn't have Like that wasn't the case for us, right,
And so I think it gets it's really easy for
actual performing arts fields and craft to get lost in
all of that now, so it's really important to keep

(51:37):
those align and going. And you know from the like
the government needs to fund more school arts programs and
things like that that we should be advocating for. So
you know, I've worked in nonprofits. I got my master's
degree also and went to college and got my master's.
After leaving the show, I was on the mock trial
team at my high school. After bruthbol that I wanted

(51:59):
to go to lost cool and then I was like, no,
that's a lot of stress for me. So yeah, no,
much like you will, like I have, I have a
history of straight up panic attacks anxiety really like that.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Yes, oh godle bond from a darkened room.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
It'll be great, seriously, And it's like debilitating, right, it's
just like horribly Yeah, and so you know, I'm not
going to say that this like you know, obviously the
industry if you want to call it that, it's not
too blame. But you definitely grow up and in this
whole other world that doesn't exist. And so yeah, you know,

(52:34):
I struggle a lot with like my career choices, my
life path and things, and how people view that. And
you know, once you're seen as like, well, why wouldn't
you want to be on TV, you know, it's like, well,
you know, you don't really have to do that. But yeah,
so it's interesting. It's an interesting dynamic. What is the.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Reaction you get now when you tell people you were
on Boy Meets World or it comes up?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
What's the response?

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Yeah, so I don't normally tell any one.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Because you can kind of get away with it because
you look different enough, you were young enough.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
That's my game. Yeah, And it's not from a plant,
because one I hate sounding like that is a I
hate bringing that up as a way that people should
see me in a certain light like that that is
not like, that's not my vibe. I am.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I'm a huge part. It's the part of yourself.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Right right, like you're talking constantly talking about being on
the high school football team, right.

Speaker 7 (53:28):
Yes, or anything else, or like I was in the
Olympics one time and then people are only like, cool,
how's you're running going? And You're like, no, I don't
see that anymore, Like I did that one time. I
use the worst sports I do not like jogging or running.
I'm gonna put that out there. So yeah, I don't
usually lead with it. It made it people will figure

(53:50):
it out every job I've ever been to, I've worked
in schools, I've worked with students, school sites, nonprofit. Everybody
will figure it out, and then it will come up
in this weird way of like, so like what was
it like?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
And I was like what was what?

Speaker 7 (54:04):
Like? Like would you be more specific? And so I
sort of make other people lead the conversation because I
don't like assuming what people know about it, or would
want to assume that they think. I'm just going to
bring it up and talk about it at will or
at length. It made like dating as an adult pretty
hard because you google people now like you meet people

(54:25):
on apps, you go out, and then it's like it
sometimes would become the only thing that people wanted to
discuss and like ask and like and honestly, it's not
even about me. People would be like, well, what was
it like where he was Danielle visheral, oh my god,
you about to hang out with Ryder's start. I'm like yeah,
but I was ten brute like dude, like what do
you want me to do? And be like, yes, I

(54:46):
stared at him all day on the set. I was
in this score room. Okay. So it's like they think
of this huge experience and what we actually had was
just like normal day to day interactions, right, and they
it's elevated in this way that people who haven't gone
through it don't understand. And they see that finished product

(55:06):
and they see the us that is put out there
and you know, the images that come with that and
the assumptions that come with that, and then don't really
think about like, well, yeah, no, Like I drove an
hour and a half to two hours every day from
my hometown to get to set in the morning, one
back and like commuting, yeah one way, you lived in
Orange County. You know the oh thing, you can't get
anywhere in Orange County right now for like under one hour. Yeah,

(55:29):
Like you know, Like so they don't see the grueling
things as like oh the disappointment of having of having
your scenes cut, or like oh no, I didn't get
to go in this week. I went to school instead,
my regular school, and I'm just a regular person. And
so all the friends that I have now and continue
and have had since elementary school, like they one hundred percent.
And I don't mean this in a bad way, but

(55:49):
they just don't care. I don't care that I was like,
they really don't, just like you're just Lendy and you're cool.
We're your friends that.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
You and yeah, I mean when you look back on
the show, is it overall a good experience.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
For you, Yes?

Speaker 7 (56:02):
No, And I think that it's because I had so
much normalcy. And I have said to my family and
other people that I know, like, out of the casts,
I believe and this is just from my perspective, I'm
curious to see if you guys agree with me or not,
given the difference in our involvement obviously in scene work
and working in general, because I had less to do
than you guys on the show. But I think our

(56:24):
cast as a whole, compared to other casts that exist
on shows like this was one hundred percent normal people
who had other parties also and just sort of had
regular lives also, And I think that makes a huge difference.
I think when you're surrounded by people who are consumed
by constantly talking about it or being about it or

(56:47):
letting people know what's going on, you know, I think
that makes a difference in how you treat it and
how you react to it as a human. And so
I think that all of us are pretty well rounded
people and how other interests had regular school, family lives
things like that. You know, we all weren't graduating high
school or pulled out of school at the age of

(57:08):
twelve to do this, right, Like, we all finished and
did those things and had those other things, And I
think that makes a huge difference.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
We also didn't come with with much ego, right, Like
we all we all gained ego because of the show,
but like we didn't. Like a lot of shows are created,
especially when they're populated by adults, there are people who've
already been on failed shows or from a you know,
from a huge hit show, and so when they come together,
it's like a bunch of clashing egos or fragile egos.
Whereas like we had Rusty and Betsy and Bill Dangels

(57:35):
like those are the people who were like the pros
and they were the nicest most people.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
So yes, yeah, I would say like our probably like
our drama people or the producers and like the writer folks,
you know who I didn't have a lot of interaction
with outside of like the read through and then that shooting. Right,
So yeah, no, I don't even think Sometimes I think
I got to leave for notes if they were too
like to be honest, but.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
I don't like after run through it they'd be like,
do you have anything for lindsay no, okay, really, yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
You're really But didn't we all sit on the ground,
like I remember, we all just like sat Night, we
all had to go like sit on the ground like
circle time at preschool, and we're like, let's circle time.
Let's hear some reasons why we were bad today. But no,
it's like, no, I'm.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Just anti circle time.

Speaker 11 (58:23):
Let me tell you why you suck as.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Let me tell you why this line is not working
for me right now? Yeah, so it's you.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
Know, to range circle time. I love that.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
That's exactly what the notes felt like.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
You know what, trade I'm gonna trademarket you gotta give
it and yeah, you know, but I and I remember
specifically like I cut my own bangs at home, like
and I got in trouble for that, and like someone
got really mad, like they just like that doesn't fit
the care. I just literally got home in my bathroom
just like trot my own bans. Daniel, you have cut
your own things in your life.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I haven't. I was always way too afraid.

Speaker 7 (59:01):
No even yeah, I know that's a common thing for it.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I know that is a common thing, but I was
way too afraid to have anything to do with my
hair on my own.

Speaker 7 (59:13):
I remember the episode where you cut your hair and
they had like fake hair ready to like take back
on your head to do it again. And I was thinking,
like this is wild man, this is crazy. What and
how nervous everybody was. It was like silent.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
It was obsession, hairsession.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
We were mostly cast for our hair. It was like
hair first, acting second. I was like if we walked
into that audition room with good air, chances.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
Strong, Yeah exactly, It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
And I do like I remember everyone's siblings too, I
think because I had a sibling that came and like
hung out because I remember Chris coming, you know, when
he was just a little kid, little kiddo, and it
seems to how you guys feel about me. I'm like,
oh no, Chris Fishel is like thirty something, right.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yeah, he's gonna be I thirty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
Oh my yes, yeah, remember him coming?

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Yes, And it completely just alters my reality. And I'm
like this, this is not a reality that exists for
me at a step am I in West World? I
don't understand you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
Did they did morgane I ever have like friends or
boyfriends or any characters. So that's that's what's crazy to me,
is like, see, we all started at you know, maybe
a little bit older than when you came on the show,
but we all had each other, We had like other
kids our same age, and guest stars coming in constantly,
the youngest person on the set.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
So it is that tank keaty episode that you all
haven't made it to yet where it's like Morgan's going
out with a boy and that's why she's dressed that
way and her parents think she's dressed inappropriately to go
out on set. And that's the only real instance that
I can remember having like an interaction with somebody for
my character that was that same age and in the

(01:00:57):
same sort of zone, which is really which is crazy.
And then obviously the younger sibling came and that was
you know, then there were.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Other STI he was a baby, and then three episodes
later he was like fourteen.

Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
Yeah, right, which is insane at best. But yeah, I
mean most of my most of what I remember is
like there is a scene occurring between you all, and
then I just sort of walk through and go like
and then leave.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
It's like, right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Exactly. It's never like a hard hitting like Morgan is
having a mental health crisis and needs assistance from her
siblings and friends. Asafa, it was purely a sort of
drive by what I call the drive by comedic situation
on my way up or down a staircase in the home, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
You really did go up and down the stairs more
than anybody else on the show. I think, yeah, that
was what you did.

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
Physical fitness. I also teach fitness. That's my second job too.
I am as instructor too good, and that is what
I have determined to be my optimal like performing outlet,
I am like leading a class of awesome people instructing
them to have a good time.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
On you don't sing anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
You don't sing anymore?

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
I well, I do anthems every now and again.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
Yeah, okay, because you did a lot of that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Yeah, I used to do a lot. And I'm actually
quite sad that I didn't track them with little tick
marks like jail cells jail cell style, because then I
could like win some sort of Guinness record how many Yeah, yeah,
and I've and I've still done them up until well,
like before COVID times, because then, like I recorded a
national anthem for an MLB team that they just like

(01:02:47):
played on the jumbo trot to an empty stadium during COVID.
It was Yeah, it was crazy, and like my baby
was asleep like in my apartment. We're in a home now,
but in my apartment at the time, I was like,
I'm gonna wake up this newborn, like I have psycho.
Why am I doing this right now? I'm singing at
full volume in my apartment. We're a four week old.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Oh my gosh, Wow, she slept through it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Newborn sleep through a lot. It's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
It they do. It's wild. And yeah, and I taught
my whole I taught while I was pregnant my whole
my fitness class. Throughout my whole pregnancy, I was waylifting
and leading and working full time and doing that. And
when she was little, like a tiny baby, she would
fall like get crying and wake up, and I would
play like the hard hitting techno beats that are from

(01:03:36):
my class, my fitness class, and she would fall asleep
to it. She was so used to hearing it, like
I like all day. She's like, look, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Well, lindsay, thank you so much for spending your time
with us today. Thank you for coming back and trying
to dredge up those memories of those seventy five episodes
you did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Uh many, I know so many. It was a real
pleasure to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Congratulations on all of your success and all the wonderful
things you do as an adult and on motherhood and
being a wife and all the nonprofit stuff you do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
You're really selfish.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Just sounds like you're just a real selfish individual.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
I do my best.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Well, it was great see you again.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
It's yeah, it's awesome to see you guys too. I'm
so you know, I feel like this is what every
every ten ishu years, we all sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I love it. What's the high school? You do it?
You do it every ten years, you try to see
each other.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
My high school hasn't had a reunion because it's like
our asb really sucks and no one can get their
act together.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So you know this, consider this your high school.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
This is it, this is my high school. I am
now among my peers. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Well, thank you, lindsay you. We'll see you again soon.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
If you need a more episode commentary, you know where
to find me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Thank you in the atl Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
We'll see it so soon.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
She's all grown up.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
I can't fathom that that was It's like a pod
person came down.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
And you know what's cool is that she still has
the e same personality. Got that, Yes she has not
like she's she was always like just super friendly, uh
and and full of personality and like positive and.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
She still is, like she's still exactly that same person.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I know, just now in a thirty eight year old
woman's like yeah, weird, yeah, I know it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
She was never.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Intimidated by the moment though. She walked kind of walked
down to our set and was like I know I'm party.
Now here we go, I'm part of it was great.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
Yeah, yeah, no, which is the only way that that
could have worked, you know. I mean that's like a
really tough position for an eleven year old to walk
in to, and man, she was just always undaunted, you know,
she has real court.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
So, very very briefly, why do you think they recast Lily? Like,
why do you think the character had to come back?
Do you think we could have just gone on where
she just never came back? Why do you think they
actually brought the character back?

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
I mean, I'm curious. Yeah, there has to have been
a narrative pressure, right, There has to have been a
storyline or two where they were like, we need to
bring the family back on a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Network for something. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I'm
just curious why, because they easily could have done, Oh
I put you know, Morgan to sleep Morgan's that you
could have mentioned the name and not actually recast, And
I'm wonderous why they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
You know, we were a very male dominated cast.

Speaker 6 (01:06:39):
Yeah, it would have, you know, especially with mister Turner
coming in and Eli and season and we had all
the thugs the second season, so like we were dropping
female care so it could have been a network note like, hey,
maybe we need to have someone for the girls to
roof for besides just the love interest, you know, because
we have all the love interests every week and then
we have to panga.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
But I still think all so going back to Indy
finding Morgan hysterical, we were missing. We basically lost all
the young sibling contingent when Morgan was gone. So I
think it was also a matter of reaching, you know,
trying to bring those kids back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I love you know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
He always said that Indy was laughing so hard at
Morgan that you're right, we the younger kids didn't have
anything to watch for anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
No, when we watched an episode relatively recently, that was
the first thing that he said, Where was the sister?

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Right there?

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
You go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
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