Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3401

While Danielle is tearing up the ballroom on Dancing with the Stars, Will and Rider have decided to start a completely uneducated recap journey - breaking down every spin, cha cha, and step, in hopes of becoming the dance experts they never thought they could be!

We learn all about the guys’ perspective from the live studio audience and hear an unfiltered analysis of their best friend’s debut. They also share who they think could go all the way and which strategies seem to make the most sense out of the gate. 
Should they have a Dancing with the Stars recap podcast? Absolutely not. Are they going to do it anyway? Absolutely yes. Enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to pod meets Twirled, the Dancing with the Stars
recap hosted by two guys who can't dance don't want
to dance. Friend Danielle has joined the cast for season
thirty four. We're going all in. We are wil Fredell
and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes standing next to
Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the dan Yettes. Hi,

(00:31):
Hi rider, how are you good? I see you've opened
your shirt this morning?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, I feel that since we're going to be judging,
we have to have one of us anyway has to
be the really good looking one, right, and the other
one needs to be you sure?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
So I figured that's the best way to go.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Are you going to stand up every time after we
cover a dance? Because you notice Bruno whenever he's judging,
like just to take control.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh wow, you really have the shirt open? Went there's
one button at the bottom. And I'll be honest with you.
With the shape I'm in, it's holding on for dear life.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
All right. So we watched this show. We watched this
episode twice, once live in person for our first Dancing
with the Stars. Let's talk about that experience. It was
it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, the first thing you get is an email inviting
you to come. And the thing that shocked me was
it's like they ask for formal attire, right, so it
was dress cocktail dressed, and men they want in jackets
and ties and the women in and Sue and I
were looking at each other like, oh, I guess cocktail attire?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Do you have cocktail attire? I love that though. That
immediately put me in the right mindset. I was like,
all right, we're not going to some sleazy Hollywood dance show.
This is classy. They might kick you out if you
don't show up with.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
A jacket exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I really appreciated that. I did too.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I did not have a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
There's nothing with the caron with occasionally dressing up for
a Hollywood event.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Except that it was ninety five degrees and we got
stuck outside waiting for a while.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
We did, we did, and our spouses were not on
the list to get in, so they just apparently seat
four C was there was no plus one for there
was no seat five C. So you they just waved
you in with Alex right, yeah, yeah, okay, of course
we had like we were we were too We waited
in line for forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We got there. We were supposed to be there at
three thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
We got there at like three forty, right, and so
the yeah, we waited in line, and then they pulled
us out of line to stand there, and then they
had to so this is not a joke. The woman
who was helping us, there's people in red shirts everywhere
with the little microphones that are helping everybody. And she
turned to me and she said, yes, what's your name?
I said it's will for Dell. She said, oh okay,
oh yeah, it's right here. They had, like I've never

(02:47):
seen before, everything done alphabetically by first name, which I've
never seen done before. So there, I am no plus one.
Susan's not on the list. So they say you have
to step aside, and she grabs the microphone and she says, yes, Carol,
I'm here with will Fredell will Fredell.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Will Ford. And then she turns me.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
She goes, sorry, she's on the dance floor right now
and death And I went, well, then, what why the microphone?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
She so yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
So then they finally got word that we were allowed in.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Justa's friend, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
The other guy from.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
The show just let him on, not to Panga.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So we walked into this stage and having never seen
the show, I didn't have this reaction. But I feel
like a lot of people are like, oh, it's smaller
in real life. Yeah, but it's still felt pretty overwhelming
to me. Just the sheer number of crew members and dancers,
and it's beautiful. It's like deck to the nines. There's
little like tables. We had great seats. We were amazing

(03:52):
court side. What do you call it, Yeah, that would
be called dance ball side.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean three feet away. I mean the Flamenco sweat
was hit us in the chest. It was that close
to the action.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Lance Bass was there, yeplan Danielle's X blocking us. So
we were never seen by cameras, which is good. Well,
I got I was on camera because I got.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I got people sending me screenshots and of course all
the screenshots are like mid clap, so it's me like
and they're all brilliant. But yeah, no, the the other
thing now, So my parents asked this because of course
everybody's watching to support Danielle at this point.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
How many guests do you think were there?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Like if the entire audience there from it was what
multi tiered, two different tiers, So the bottom there's kind
of stadium seating and then the top there's like a balcony.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
People can stand around three hundred.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
People, yeah, two or two or three hundred people, and
so in not that big a space, right.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, because you also have probably about two hundred crew
members at least, it was an army. Got live. Television
is such a different beast than we are used to.
I mean when we would did our tapings of Boy
Meets World, there was an energy, but but it was
also kind of relaxing. You know, you're like, oh, cut
and everybody's you know, talking, there's never a moment like

(05:06):
you always have a big clock ticking down, somebody announcing
we're back. In ninety seconds, we're back and five four applause.
Yet so there's so.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Much energy going into this and well I'm in between
all that yelling, a DJ constantly playing music, so there's
no quiet, there's no calm, there's no Yeah, I it
made me so nervous.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, I was just really anxious. And then if I
we saw Danielle like from a distance a couple of times,
totally calm. Yeah, totally seems like in charge, looking beautiful. Yeah,
so I think the right person is doing dances with us.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
But I wanted to ask her because you know, we
watched it live and then we watched it back on camera,
and watching it back on camera and knowing Danielle.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I could see how nervous she was really for the
first time.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yet there was some There was some like obviously her
mouth was dry, so there was some like lipsmacking things
that you recognize in another criticizing Danielle.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
What we do it here, that's.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Why we're here.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We're here to just we're not even gonna talk about
any of the other performers. It's just criticizing Danielle and
her dancing. No, So it was no, But it's just
because I've known her for thirty years, so she she
can and fake it's not the right word.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
She's just a professional.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So's she can entertain even it's like a good entertainer.
It doesn't matter what you're feeling inside, you go out
and you entertain. And that's Danielle. So I know Danielle
well enough to know like, oh, she's nervous, But that
was it.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Nobody else would have picked it up. Yeah, she seemed
totally cool to me. All right, So what did you
know about Dancing with the Stars before going to the show.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Probably as much as you. I knew it was a
very popular television show on ABC.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think I knew it was on ABC.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I knew that celebrities, athletes, and social media stars go on.
I know a little bit of it because my other podcast,
Magical Rewind, my co host was a big celebrity dancer,
Subrin Bryan.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
She was also it was, I guess, a big.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
To do because no one thought she should be kicked
off when she was kicked off, like, she only made
it like six or seven weeks and that was a
big thing. So I knew a little bit about it,
but other than that, nothing I knew exactly what you did.
I didn't know how they scored it. I didn't know
any of the stuff they do. I still don't entirely
know how they score it or what. Don't either how
they help people off like that.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm what the relationship between the judges numbers and the
votes are, like, Yeah, they added up together, do the
votes ultimately counting? The judges numbers are just there as
like a guide. This is what the professionals think, but
you can just it's so. Is it just a popularity contest?
I don't know. How.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Then the sub question asking this to add to the
to some fuel to the fire. How are our critiques
gonna gonna you know, match in with the judges critiques
and the audience critiques, because now this is going to
be the pre eminent judge.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Major That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So so you can trust us as the new experts exactly.
That's all it takes is a you know, a microphone
and a smile.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now we're the experts too. So okay, so let's talk
about your experience with dancing. Have you ever done ballroom dancing?
Do you know anything about ballroom dance?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I back in the day, when I was a kid,
I think I took a ballroom dancing class. When I
mean kid, like ten eleven years old. And then, strangely enough,
one of the ways jokingly that Danielle and I would
pass the time behind the set of Boymants World is
I would grab her and we would fake tango or
fake salsa or fake cha chaws.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So you were her coach.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So I essentially taught Danielle. He was essentially okay, okay,
so correct. You know, he's the sense, right, and she
I was gonna say, I'm the hand, she's the clay,
and I'm only as good as the clay that I have,
and the clay that I had back in the nineties
not that great, right. So I think with the some
of the dancers she's working with now, we'll probably pull
a little more out of her than I could. But
that's only because I was working on such a higher

(08:51):
level of dance at the time that.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, I think I've drunkenly danced at maybe two weddings. Yeah,
and then I was told about it later, So I
don't even remember doing that. So not a dancer, never
been a dancer. How about you, what's your level of dance, Expolis?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, no, no, nothing. I have been to the ballet
twice in my life and loved it.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, both times I went.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And why don't I do this all the time, because
it's gorgeous, it's amazing, and when it's you know, telling
a story, especially like I just get so so. But
I just never think about it. I never think like, oh,
I should get tickets to the latest ballet, which I
now I really want to start doing. All right, Well,
the extent of my experience is having seen the movie
Strictly Ballroom in the nineties. That's that's my knowledge of

(09:36):
actual ballroom dancing. Yeah, all right, So let's get into
the opening episode of season thirty four of Dancing with
the Stars. Yes, opens with a big dance number done

(09:59):
by these incredible dancers. We got to see it twice
because they do a rehearsal first and then they do
it again. I was amazed. Immediately thought, these people are incredible.
Seems that there's so many of them. They're moving everywhere.
I don't understand how they're not bumping into cameras, bumping
into each other. It's insane.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I was just about to say, and I didn't
know if we should save this to the end, but
they're the best dancer of the night by far. Was
the steady cam up steady cam operator. You never saw
because I watched this back last night. You never watched
catch a glimpse of this guy. Nope, you never see
him on camera. He is up in the he's in
the dances. He is there with this giant.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Rig running around them in circles and doing all the
amazing shots which I could see what was happening while
we were there. I could see this guy working so
hard carrying this heavy camera rig. But then to watch
back the episode, it was just beautiful and you realize,
like this guy or this team, you know, all these
camera people are making the show so much better than

(11:01):
it would be if it was just like a static
you know, stage camera or whatever. It's incredible. It gives
it so much energy, and I found my interpretations of
the dances really changed. See I'm seeing them on camera
is a very different experience and being in the room.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
It is so different seeing and so one of the
things I noticed because when I was looking at the
judges a lot of the time, obviously your eyes are
over there to see what they know, and they're staring down.
They're not looking either either standing up looking close or
they're staring down. So they must have monitors right in
front of them connected directly to the camera. That is
that they're watching all the little stuff going on, because

(11:37):
they clearly saw that in a different way.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
All right, So after the opening number, we get introduced
to our first dance couple, Jordan Chiles and Ezra Sosa. Yes,
I will state clearly now I did not know who
anybody was. I don't know who any of the dancers
are except Corey Feldman similar generational actor, and Andy Richter.

(12:01):
I don't think I've ever seen Andy in anything other
than movies, but I knew who he was, right, yeah, yeah,
So those are the two. Not quite the same way.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I knew Jordan Chiles because I like the Olympics, and
obviously I knew gymnastics is big in the Olympics. So yes,
i'd heard her name, so I'd certainly seen her perform,
But I'm kind of in the same boat with you.
None of the dancers. Obviously, I didn't know a single
dancer there.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But so Jordan Chiles made headlines at the twenty twenty
four Olympics when the bronze medal she won on the
floor exercise final in Paris was stripped by the Court
of Arbitration for Sport following a challenge by Romania Crazy.
She still holds two Olympic medals, a team goald from
the twenty twenty four Games and a team silver from
the delayed twenty twenty Olympic Games in Tokyo. They danced
the salsa to the song Break My Soul by Beyonce.

(12:49):
I was pretty much blown away. I also I I've
always wondered about the line between gymnastics and dancing, because well,
that's what I want to talk about, please, Because you know,
I've always watched floor routines and gymnastics and been like,
they're dancing. They're just doing so much more athletic, you know, right,
flips and whatnot. But to see this dance and to

(13:12):
see some of that work integrated in and then to
hear the judge's response, which was not super positive about
all nos was was kind of jarring for me because
I was like, but come on, she can do these things.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right, but that dancing.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
No. I guess that's the question, this question what this
whole show is judging. I was like, yes, Bruno, Derek, guys,
calm down. The woman just flew through the air and
did all these crazy flips. Could you do that? But
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Matter no exactly If the show is called Magic with
the Stars and I'm awesome at juggling, did I do
magic or did I juggle? So that's the thing is,
it's like I watched it back and again knowing nothing
of Salza other than it's phenomenal on chips.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You could.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was one of those things where I was like, oh,
she's she's doing cool gymnastics, but is this also dancing?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So that gets to the heart of like my conflict
with the show is just not understanding enough about dance.
But I'm getting better. I feel like, having watched it
twice now, I'm like I could see what they were
saying this time around. I was like, oh, yeah, it
was just a little something was a little off. It
was a little stiffer or more stilted than it should be.
But I thought it was still so impressive. But I

(14:21):
guess it gets into this question of like the difference
between entertainment or just doing a show and doing a
dance right correctly doing a dance specifically.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, it's not just some Yeah, I think we also
have to throw in and this is a real thing.
They were first on the first episode of a brand
new season. It's like, you're there talk about nerve wracking.
You're the first one to go. That's got to be really,
really tough. So the question, and now I'm going to
throw this question out at you every week, would you

(14:51):
rather go first and get it over with or would
you rather sit there and watch other teams? And then
I think I'd rather go first to get it Yes,
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Sitting backstage for the whole time, just holding freaking out, yes,
freaking the same, same. Okay, So they did their dance
the judges. I noticed Bruno's standing to judge. I really
like his energy. He's funny, he's great, he's great. But
they both give amazing notes. Actually, like especially watching it
back a second time, I was like, yeah, this is
really good feedback. They are super positive. And then they

(15:21):
said that they were going to be harsh because it's
the first episode.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
So the number they want to give themselves somewhere to go, right, Yes,
which made sense. Yeah, So they both only only gave
this dance a five each, so it was a solid
ten I want amaze.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, no out of.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Thirty technically, because because the thing was judge, we missed
the third judge. The third judge, and apparently, from what
everybody said is you and I have never seen the show,
but apparently the third judge of the woman brings a
whole different level to everything. It balances out the judges
and it's really different way.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I kind of them.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
He wanted a little on a third voice, because these
guys were kind of in agreement. They have different energies,
but they were kind of in agreement with each other,
and they seemed very I mean, maybe this is everybody,
but they seem very focused on like dance and timing
and like less less blown away by somebody's ability to entertain,
which is actually pretty great and kind of important.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So yes, well it is. It's part you know, I
was taught. I think this would this would fit. I
was talking to you guys keep going back to magicians,
but I was talking to a magician yesterday who said,
it's so much easier to take an entertainer and teach
them magic than it is to take a magician and
teach them how to entertain.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So I wonder if it's easier to take an entertainer
and teach them how to dance than take a dancer
and teach them how to light up and entertain on
the floor.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
So, because they tend to agree with you, but then
after watching the show again, I don't know the ones
who were professional dancers when they were younger really stood out.
There's something about here. They have it in their bones
in a way that even people like Danielle, who was amazing,
they don't. She doesn't have it yet, you know, she
doesn't have a certain dancer thing. So I was kind

(16:59):
of I'm surprised by the fact that they allow ex
professional dancers to even be one of the stars. It
seems like kind of counter to the whole point of
the show, which is these people are not pros. But right,
I guess you know everybody, it's going to be interesting
to watch this journey me too.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Wait before we move on to our next pair, which
we have to do quickly, do you agree with the
judges scoring and would you have changed it in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Would you also have given them the same amount.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
In the room, I was like, no, she deserved a
six or seven, like at least for and but then
watching it back, yeah, I think five was a good
way to go if we're keeping the first episode like
low to like give them room to improve. Yeah, she
should know that, Like she can't get away with just that,
you know, the athleticism, it's it's impressive.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Integrate it better. Maybe agreed one hundred percent? All right,
so we're both in agreement with the first ten.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, all right, go all right. Then we had
Dylan Efron and Daniella car Gootch. So Dylan Efron is
Zac Efron's brother.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
He was in middle school middle school musical which nobody
saw one.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Season three of a show called Traders, which I've also
never heard of, but apparently is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
We keep saying that we're everyone's saying we're supposed to
watch this.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay. So I felt I felt for Dylan because in
his pre show package he was talking about how he's
really brave about doing adventurous stuff like outdoorsy stuff, but
the idea of dancing scares the crap out of him,
and that's why he's doing it. And I was like, yes,
near my guy, Near my guy. And given that, I

(18:30):
really enjoyed his dance because, you know, I was like, dude,
you're doing it. You're you're you're out there, you're putting
yourself out there. She was probably the best dancer of
the night for me. She was incredible, incredible, Believe how
good she was.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Part of that is because I think she was working
very hard to compensate, which I guess is kind of
the balance, right, Like these people because she was just
giving it everything and it was so impressive. For me.
It was like, oh, is this That's like the level
that we can achieve. And actually I don't think anybody
really beat her. For me, I thought Danielle Karagoch was
like the most amazing dnswer of the night.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
She was great.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
They yet but you could tell that he again, I
don't know if it's nervous or whatever, but it was
a stilted kind of he just seemed very stiff in
the room.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Though I enjoyed it a lot more watching it back again,
I was like, Oh, he didn't I know, but there's
something about him on camera, like when he jumped on
the table. In person, it was fantastic start and I
was like, oh, he's doing it. When I watched it
on TV, I was like, uh, you're trying a little hard.
But yep, so agree, it's an in person energy that
was very different.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
It is very different.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
But yeah, I feel I fell for him too, and
I agree with the judges score.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
And they were doing the Chacha shaw to a song
called Milkshake, which just didn't feel completely integrated. There's something
a little yeah, And the judges said that essentially and
gave them both. They both gave fives. So at this point,
I'm like, are we just going to give fives for
the whole night?

Speaker 4 (19:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know? What you could see because when the judges
said your timing was way off, when I was watching
it there, I was like, it didn't seem way off,
And then watching it on a camera, I was like, no,
the timing was off. He was doing one thing, she
was doing another. So yeah it was the timing was off.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Get out your metronome, ye, Dylan, all right, so we
agree with the scores? Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
Actually watching it back, I feel like they could have
could have been a little lower, a little harsher, but
I don't think they were.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
They're trying to do that. And then they did that
for some people. I was like, oh, they are going
lower than five. So yeah, it was yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And next up we had Elaine Hendrix and Alan Burston.
Elaine is not Ellen Burston. I had to look that up.
Totally different person in person. Elaine is an actor. She
was in The Parent Trap. She played Meredith Blake in that.
She's also appeared on Dynasty, Sex and Drugs and Rock
and Roll and Joan of Arcadia. I did not know

(20:51):
who she was, but when I saw her face was like, oh, yeah,
I think I've seen seen her around. They danced a
chat chaw to chat cha cha to woman and I
thought this was like really the first like, oh, this
is a great dance. She knew what she was doing.
She knew what she was doing. Turns out she was
a dancer in the past, so that.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
God had to give it up because she got hit
by a car.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
So she's got the chops and the story because I
think this the personal story is also hugely important for
because you're voting, so I mean, you have to keep
in mind that this is for the country, and I
think the story of a woman who wanted to be
a dancer and then got hit by a car, had
to give it up and then can still do that,
I think she's going to go pretty far in this competition.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, she really, she did great. She was great so
the judges. Actually, Derek said something about her performance. He
said it has a Broadway quality, and I thought that's
really accurate, you know, for it was an actor dancing
and I could tell that she was more of an actor.
But I liked that she was doing all these faces

(21:54):
and like twiddling her fingers and then they did that
one like handshake at one point where they did like
the you know, the up down thing. Yes, it was great.
So I was thoroughly entertained. And they the judges gave
them a six and a six. I think I would
have given them a seven.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I agree on hundred percent. I agree on hundred percent.
I thought she was great. It reminded me of like, oh,
that's the person you cast in Chicago the movie or
one of these kind of big dance number of movies,
because she had the whole package. The outfit looked great,
the start with the big hat, her partner was awesome.
She was just so happy to be there. She was
was there and now, Yes, so it was.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
She's a contender, She's up. Definitely. She had me.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
She was she was great, and I agree with you
one hundred percent. I think they could have gone a
little bit higher.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
With her score. So next up we had Whitney Levitt
and Mark Ballas. Whitney is a social media influencer and
entrepreneur who stars alongside the fellow Dancing with a Star
season forecast member Jen Affleck on the secret lives of
Mormon wives She is a mom of three. She has
over two point five million followers on Tip Ta Geez.

(23:01):
But she is also a dancer. I thought she was
really good to the tango to the song Golden from
K Pop Demon Hunters, which is just like the best
song of the night, and it's like it was such
a good selection because it's so of the moment, like
this is the song my kid is listening to. Every
everybody's kid is listening to. It's been super smart.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Apparently her partner Mark Ballas is like, this is the
guy who's won a whole bunch of times. He is
the man when it comes to the dancers, apparently. And
I guess he had left the show. By the way,
producer Tara, if anything we're saying is completely and totally wrong,
and you know the answer, please jump in with this stuff,
because I but I think he like left the show

(23:43):
under some kind of It wasn't controversy, but it was
more like he just wanted to take off. And then
he's recently come back, so I think this was kind
of a big deal, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
So he basically he's been on His first ever partner
was Sabrina and Bryan. Oh yes, and that was his
first season and he left he had an injury. I
think it was I can't remember what kind of injury,
but he had an injury. So he wasn't dancing regularly
because it's very hard on your body. Yeah, but he
came back and won with Charlie Dmilio, and he just
he basically talked about that he's been healing and taking

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care of his body and he wanted to come back.
So there was no controversy.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
It was just okay.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But he was like, am I wrong that he was
like the face of the male dancers for Dancing with
the Stars for a while.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
He was like the guy right.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
It was always like him and Derek were on at
the same time.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Derek, right, who's the who's the judge?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (24:32):
And then we have Max whose VAL's brother. There was
a lot of those key players.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, man, all right, this this this one with Whitney
and Mark was like, I was like, oh, it's going
to keep getting better, Like this was, oh, the last
one was the best of the night. Now it took
it to even the next level. I was like, well,
this is great. The judges gave him a seven and
an eight in a weird controversial moment.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yes, apparently, yeah, you have to.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's one thing apparently, and they we heard the voice
over the loudspeaker saying yet, which they cut out from
the live show.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
You have to lock Oh no, they had it in
the live show.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You have to lock in your number first, So apparently
the judges they have to literally hit a button to
lock in their number and then pick up their paddle.
He locked in an eight, but picked up a seven.
So when they then cut later to Julianne Huff talking
about it, she got a message in your euro pier
saying no, they actually put an eight, so that was
a fourteen and then went up to a fifteen because

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apparently he had locked in the eight button, so which.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I think it deserved. I feel like pretty much overall
this was the highest scoring dance of the night from
the judges point of view, I think it was probably
top top three.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It was one of the top agreed one hundred percent.
I don't think it was the best. But I also
have the question for you, which we're going to have
to talk about as the show progresses, especially, is the
balance between stage props.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
And flashy stuff going on just dancing.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Who makes these decisions I think they do okay, because
there were some that had such high production value and
then others like Danielle Fishel would just very straightforward and
just think about the dance and in the room, I
was like, well, we should be having all the fire,
but then watching it back, I was like, no, there's
some too being classy and yes, dude, and also you

(26:20):
can grow.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
This game is strategy, yes, yes, And there's strategy involved
in every decision that's made on this show. And Danielle
and Pasha and all the dancers that you saw are
making decisions based on what they want on the stage,
what they want their creative to be. They all have
their hands in it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, and they're telling a story in such an interesting
way because like when I you know, I have watched
American Idol for years. I've watched other competition shows where
they spend more time with the contestants behind the scenes,
where you the part of the storytelling is like getting
to know them as people or like their families or whatever.
There's very little of that in this show. We get

(26:57):
the like one minute package to introduce each one of them,
and I'm very curious to see how that happens every week.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Like because it'll grow because as if people get kicked off,
the package is going to get longer because then there's
only six people. So I imagine the dance gets longer and
the package goes longer. I would think, Yeah, So I
guess what I'm saying is the dancing is.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
The storytelling, right, do you know what I mean? So
watching these people now that we've like sort of taken
notes and watching them progress is going to earn more appreciation,
you know, So like, yes, that's going to be very
interesting to see somebody who probably out of the gate
was just a solid dancer and then maybe stays there
over the course of the season, and the people who
get better and better, and I feel like, yeah, I'm

(27:38):
going to be invested in those those stories without even
knowing anything about you know, them as people or really
seeing them like hanging out that much, or like I
can tell you really cool, that's something I care about this, I.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Agree, But watching watching it back and watching just the
people that danced without all the pageantry on the stage,
it made me think they have a place to go
with this. They can grow from here. Whereas if you
started at ten, I know, where do you go it's like.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Okay, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
You killed it on the first night when nobody's going
to be kicked off, But where you know, you got
to ramp this up every week?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
How do you do that?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
So my question to you then is strategically about Dancing
with the stars. If you're given the opportunity to have
a car on your stage or something like that, and
you can do it in week one, do you say
no because week two and three you don't have it anymore,
or you can't do that every week?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I say no.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I start exactly how Danielle started, which is two people
dancing to great music with great costumes.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
And I will make I will make this is no
inside Baseball because I would have noticed this just by
watching the show. But Mark and Pasha and Val are
three of the most seasoned veterans on the male side.
Two of the three had no nothing on the stage,
and the Val had Alex Earl the influencer, and he

(28:55):
put a lot on the stage with fire and bring
a fire, and I think she needs that because she
is a very showy celebrity. But you notice the other too,
strategically did not do it. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I also have a question when it comes to the
actual dance aspect of the show. So, if you're a
male professional dancer on the show and Danielle Fischel is
your partner, great, you come on, I'm going to teach
you how to dance.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I'm the man, so I lead. That's traditionally how it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Works when the woman is the professional dancer, is the
woman leading or is the woman not.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Only teaching the dance but teaching the man to lead.
Does anybody know it's all of it? It's both. Yeah,
I mean I think, I mean, you can see that
they're working with what they've got right, But no, I
think technically the man always has to lead, so that
determines whose arm is, which arm and which direction.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, because it's like, not only do I have to
teach you how to dance, but I have to teach
you how to lead me.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
This is a whole strategy though, because it's all plays
in it. Because I think it's easier for the men
because dancing ballroom dancing has a focus on the female
and you're mostly looking at the female in any case
where he's the frame, so it's harder. You could argue
both ways, it's easier for the male celebrity, or it's.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
More I don't know if I mean, I definitely think
they're leading, but I'm not sure if leading necessarily means
that it takes more skill, right, you know what I mean,
It's just a different skill.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Did you also notice in most of the dances, which
of course we do not see when we're on the stage,
there are many a time, especially with the women, where
the women professional dancers, where they are speaking to the
dancers as the.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Dance is going on.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Like at one point for the Corey Felman dance, she
says to him before he does his own thing, and
I rewound it and rewound it and kept reading her lips.
I'm pretty sure she says, do it. They love you,
and so she's like pumping him up before. So I
think the women are really trying to like, yeah, smile.
You saw smile a lot because you're probably in your
head trying to think of the dance steps.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yes, and so it's like smile.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So the women, especially, we're really leading the man and
with like okay, smart, you can do it. You're And
it was amazing to watch that back. You could really
see them talking to them while they're dancing.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
All right.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Next up was Baron Davis and Britt Stewart. Barons. Yeah,
he's a basketball player. Apparently. I really liked him his energy.
They sang h are they They danced the too you
Can't Touch This by mc ammer. So yeah, so this
was the first like, ah, now I'm watching somebody who really, yeah,

(31:40):
really is like stretching us. Yeah, exactly, you know, as
much as as as Dylan Efron was sort of saying
that he was uncomfortable, like you know, Baron was also
dealing with an older body and like an injuries and
everything between being an athlete, you know, and then being
a dancer where it's like it's a whole different thing

(32:01):
and you're using your body differently, And he was visibly uncomfortable,
but he gave it as all. I thought it was
fine and super entertaining.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
He was really there's a couple of times and he
wasn't the only one where there you could really tell
that somebody has no dance experience, probably does not how
cannot move particularly gracefully.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
This would be me.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And so it's one of those things where it's like
you're essentially gonna move a little bit and hold.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Your hands up and I'm going to dance around you exactly.
And that's what Britt was like Daniella just killing it, yes,
and fantastic, Hared He's kind of static while she's like
spinning all around him and like kept giving him time
to like do like little moves on his own. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Right, I don't know I would say no, no, no, yes, Yeah.
It was just and again, you're right, this is where
we're trying to balance the younger. You've got somebody like
Jordan Childs who's also a an athlete like Baron Davis is,
but somebody who's an athlete who is probably still in
her twenties, who's been flipping all over the place as

(33:04):
a gymnast, so it's like it's easier to cover maybe
you don't have the dance aspect when you're doing splits
in mid air and all this other stuff where he's
probably like, I'm fifty something years old and my body's
a little bit wrecked. So yeah, I'm going to do
the running Man, which was kind of cool, And it's
more that's more about the personality and the entertainment than
anything else. Right now, we have to see if they

(33:25):
progress actually as dancers.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I know, I'm really hoping they do, because I did
find it entertaining, it was fun.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I did too, But he's also on my list of
it's real possible that he's on the bubble to go. Yeah,
And this is where we're going to see if it's
about dancing or it's about a personality contest, because there's
two or three. If it's just about dancing, where it's like, okay,
they're clearly not dancers, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
They both got fives from the judges, giving them a
total score of ten, which seemed like a.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Bit of a gift.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yes, and a bit of a gift since later people
got a little bit lower that easily could have been lower,
but I think his personality pushed it over the edge.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Next up we had Alex Earl and Val Schmerkovski. Alex
is an online influencer. Her effect has been dubbed the
Alex Earl Effect, referring to her ability to make products
go viral.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
She has an effect. She's big enough to have her
own effect, I guess. So they danced to Britney Spears Circus.
This was a This was the biggest set of the night.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
The big fire boobies behind you.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You see the fire boobies circle, but they did. When
you look at it straight on, it looked like two
pairs of fire boobies. Really, I thought it was just
one circle. What are you talking about? No, this was
fire boobies.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
In the BacT, there's two things like spinning that looked
like she started.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
On a little stand with a whip. It was. There
was a lot going on, and frankly, I don't think
they needed it. I think she I think she was
a very good dancer. But going back to like what
what what Elaine Hendrix brought to her performance, this was
like the opposite of that. I felt like she was

(35:00):
kind of stiff. Stiff. I agree, we're doing all the
moves right, but you under dead inside. It was, yes,
there's no soul like it was a little bit soulless,
like it was technically very good, but there was kind
of no soul behind it. And I feel like all
the fireworks and fires and whips was all an attempt
to kind of distract from that. So the judges gave

(35:23):
them a seven and a six.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Fire boobies do it every time, and.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's it's interesting because you know, I feel a little
unfair because we're saying, you know, but by the criteria
and of like was I was watching or going, well, yeah,
you can dance, but I don't know if I want
to keep watching you dance.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Isn't that weird? It's not fully entertaining.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
And also I noticed this like fire Boobies is a
perfect example, which I'm going to keep saying as often
as I can.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's a perfect example of when we were watching.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
When I was watching it back on TV, I was
watching all the stuff going on around her, all the
fire in the flames and everything else, and then I
was like, oh, that's right, concentrate on her dancing. It
was secondary to everything else that was happening on stage.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
So I, yeah, it's there's a lot going on. There's
a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, all right, So you would you have kept the no?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I would have They gave it one, gave us seven,
and one gave us six.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I would have probably done dual sixes or maybe even
a five and a six. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think they're really reacting to the dancing more than
the game. Yes, all right. Next up, we had Scott
Hoyne and Riley Arnold. Uh. Scott is a Grammy and
an Emmy Award winning musician from the group Pentatonics.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, this on our Christmas playlist.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Their Little drummer Boy brings the house down, my friend,
their real life pitch perfect.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, I want to check them out. They've they've sold
over thirteen million albums, thirty.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Two billion albums.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
They did the.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Tango to Abercadabra by Lady Gaga. You could tell in
his package, his pre dance package that he was uncomfortable
and kind of an awkward dancer, and he said this
thing about being more vulnerable than singing, which I found
really interesting. I was like, do I feel that way,
because singing is also very vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Right, but not when you're He's in a group with
like six other people doing harmony, so it's like you're
there with your friends. Like when I go on stage
by myself, I'm terrified. When I'm there with you and Danielle,
I'm totally completely relaxed.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah true. So yeah, So what'd you think of the dance?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I thought he was clunky and a bit stiff, and
she was over compensating a little.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Dred percent. She was trying hard.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And I think one of the things we also never
talk about and should never in the history of this show,
by the way, we're halfway through our first episode, that
the professional dancers have to be pretty, you know, pretty
nervous as well. So I felt for the first time
that the professional dancer was a little bit nervous and that,
like you said, pushing it a little bit, and it
was not my favorite dance of the night.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
What a hard job to be these dancers. I couldn't imagine.
I mean, you no idea what you're dealing with, what
you're going to get, and you have to work with
what you've got, right, Yeah, So when you when when
you know, Baron shows up and he's wanting to do
something like hip hop related, but you're trying to do
you know, like that's a challenge.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Or I'm so sure Sue and I were talking about this.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm sure that when they find out who their celebrity is,
there's a bunch of them that are like, oh, I'm
not going to win this year, Like there's.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
No because I think winning is a big deal for
the dancers.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
So it's I think there's times where they get paired
with somebody where they're like, Okay, well it'll be fun,
they'll be nice, but there's no way.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
We're going to win anything this year. So, yeah, the
judges gave them five and five.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I thought it was fair.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
It could have gone a little lower, agreed, lower it agreed,
but I thought it was fair, but lower.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Next up, the one and only one. Let's gip this, Daniel,
we should just skip this one. Let's just skip this one.
Daniel Fisher and Pasha Pashkov. If you don't know who
Danielle is, look her up.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I thought these guys killed it. Yes, we're obviously biased,
but for all the reasons we've already sort of talked about.
It was stripped down, it was focused, it was delightful.
I in the room, I liked it a lot. Seeing
it back, I liked it even more. One hundred percent
agree they had Uh so they did the tango too

(39:05):
Stronger by Kelly Clarkson. They had for the first time
I felt, and maybe like the truly the most of anybody,
a real connection as dancers.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It was well, did you also notice it started with
the most Danielle thing you'll ever see in your life?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
What? Well?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It started and the lights come up and she fixes
his suit. Really, Yeah, it's the first thing she did
was pat his shoulders down and fix his suit like
the mom. And Danielle is always there tak care of
her partner. And that's so the first thing. I was like,
that's the most Danielle thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
They felt so alive, they felt like they were having fun. Ye,
it was like sexy and like it was still technically good,
but it felt human. It felt like they were owning
it like only these two people could. And that to
me is like the greatest that's it.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And they were just dancing. There's no fire, there's no thing.
When she's grabbing the back of his head and looking
him in the eye. You believed that almost more than
you did anybody else who was dancing tonight, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
So the judges gave them six and six gave her
a note about her shoulders, which I didn't notice, but
I guess is a common note, and I took a
only note ya, do your shoulders things okay?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And they even said they commented on how they're going
to say that all season long.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Shoulders shoulder, shoulders, shoulder, that's a thing. Yeah, I think
I think Derek should have probably given them a seven.
I'm not sure why.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I thought they were absolutely wonderful.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
But I also thought, you know a word I love
George Bush word strategery, thinking of strategicy. They have a
lot of places to go now with where they can.
I'd also like to take a very brief pause here,
because I'm going to be introducing a little segment here
every week that I am calling.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Will his history of dance? Oh please?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Now, yes, because you know I don't dance myself. But
the other thing you might not know is all I
do is read and study it out dancing.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Really, so all of this is off the top of
my head.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I just want you to know.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
So every week I'm going to be doing a very
very small and brief history of the dance that Danielle
is doing, unless she doubles up, and then we'll pick
on something. If she does the tango again, we'll do
something else. But we're going to get everybody the brief
history of dance. So, just off the top of my head,
I wanted you to know that tango originated in the
late nineteenth century in the Rio de la Plata region
of Buenos Aires, Argentina and Montevideo, Uruguay.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
You're not reading this. This is this is I just
figured you'd want to know this.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'm not reading this, reading it as a fusion of
musical and dance traditions from European immigrants and African rhythms. Initially,
this is interesting the expression of immigrants and outcasts in
the slums and bordellos. Tango gained popularity by the turn
of the twentieth century, spreading to the middle class, into
the upper class, and then eventually becoming a global phenomenon,
notably in Paris. Today, encomasses various styles, with Argentine tango

(41:53):
remaining a cherist cultural tradition alongside ballroom and North American variations.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Do you regularly just throw the word bordellos into I do?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I was gonna say brothels, that's but you know I
I thought everybody would want to know that again, just
t oh baby, top of the head. I thought everybody
should know what was going on. We're gonna do that
every week because I have it all in the dome.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So I'll just let you know, okay. Next up, Jen
Affleck and Jan Ravnik. Jen is the other secret Mormon
wive wife. Why wife? Are they all married to the
same person?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, that's not. They're not polygamous.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
There's just and I think there is something comical about
the fact that there's multiple Mormon wives.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
They're dancing, all right. They danced the salsa to Nueva
Yold by Bad Bunny. I thought this was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I did too. I did too.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I thought they were actually dancing this alsa. Yes, it
wasn't a bunch of fluff.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It was dancing this. In the pre show bagage, they
announced that she had just had a baby eight weeks ago. Yeah,
what isn't that crazy? Like we thought Danielle was taking
on a lot doing this, Like seriously, She's has three kids,
all under three, and she took this on. I thought
she was incredible, amazing, not even just even if I
hadn't known that, but knowing that it makes it even

(43:11):
more incredible. Yeah, I could tell that it was a
bigger production. Again, she was being tossed around a lot. Yes,
but that kind of makes sense. She had a baby
eight weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Ye. So.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
But the judges actually commented on the lifts, the amount
of lifts, slowing down the flow, which I did feel.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I got that as well.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But I also thought there was something interesting about seeing
what I imagine and again I could be wrong. A
traditional salsa. The music there, the costumes, the pageantry. It
seemed like this is what traditional salsa is. And again
I could be wrong, but that's what I It seemed
like to me, right, and it was as hugely entertaining.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Well, the judges gave it six and six, so that's fair.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I think that was fair.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Really, I'm wondering if it was a little high. Really, yeah,
because if we're going with the first week, you know,
challenge your self mentality. I think I think one of
them could have probably given them a five. Interesting cut
them on their toes, fair enough, all right? Next up
Corey Feldman and Jenna Johnson. Cory. You know, I've actually
never met Corey, we haven't. Is an interesting dude. Yeah, yeah,

(44:17):
So he was a child star in the eighties from
stand By Me, the Goonies, Lost Boys, Tene mun Ninja,
Turtles in the nineties and he's been a musician, uh
lately and is has this dance history, but it's all
very Michael Jackson, straight up like Michael. So they danced
the tango too. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah, this,

(44:38):
you know, this was one of those examples of somebody
bringing a lot of personality, bringing a certain skill set,
but is it the tango.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Also, I was not a huge fan you're talking about personality.
Wasn't a huge fan of some of his facial expressions.
I thought it was a little much at times. Okay,
I thought it was a little bit much. And yes,
he's he talked about how he has scoliosis, so you know,
I'm sure he can't there. Mobility is probably an issue
with some of it, especially since every single dance ends
with the woman bent over and the guy holding her

(45:06):
for some reason, every single dance the whole night. But yeah,
this was one of those kind of stiff, a little
cringey ones for me.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, the judges gave it a four and five. This
was the first four of the night.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I thought that was fair.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
You see. I didn't at the time when we were alive,
because I was like, come on, the guy is doing
everything he can. But when I watched it back, I
was like, yeah, it's not. It's I want to see
you actually pull off the dance moves, I agree, not
just do your little Michael Jackson's stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yes, so yeah, and she was talking to him the
whole time. Yeah, she's talking to him the whole time. Yep.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
All right.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Then we had Lauren Hereggie and Brandon Armstrong. Lauren is
a singer known for the girl group Fifth Harmony. This
was incredible. I thought this was probably the best dance
of the night. She's up there.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's not my favorite one, but she's certainly up there.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
As I mean, well, you're in the back for Irwin,
aren't you.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I could not how do you?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
How can you not be? I mean the guy brought
the hose down at the end. It was so good.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
But there's a problem with that, which we'll get to.
But yes, no, she was. She was great, uh all
of it.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I mean it was super entertaining and yeah she was
personable and the yeah, great, great, totally great.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
The judges gave uh seven and six and it could
have been double seven's. I think it could have been
double sevens agreed, I agreed, yep, this could have been higher. Agreed,
one hundred percent. All right. Next up we had Andy
Richter and Emma Slater. So this was another example of
a non dancing man well known for comedy coming out

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and uh doing his best. I felt the age, which
is a bummer he said he was worried about his
legs holding up, and you could feel that tension to
tell it, you could tell, and you know, he was
so entertaining to watch. His faces were great. He had
a you know, this sort of fun mugging quality, maybe

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we'll call it, but it totally worked for me. But
I wanted to see him pushing his body a little
bit farther, which I don't know if he can.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
He also lost it in the interview.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Because they asked him why are you here, and the
first thing he answered was a paycheck? And when you
say that, even as a joke, you're going to turn
off some people, right, So I feel like he kind
of might have lost it in the well, he's on
the bubble.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
To me, he's a comedian, right, so he's used to
a sort of level of irony that probably doesn't feel
appropriate to this show. This show feels very earnest. You know,
this show is very much like beautiful people are doing
beautiful things, and like it takes seriously Yeah, and I
think if you try and like do that in any
sort of ironic or mocking or you know, self even

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somewhat self deprecating way, I don't know if it works. No,
I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Self deprecating is fine, but this is they want you
to stand up there and say, I'm so happy to
be here.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I was, you know, this has been a struggle for me.
That's what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
They're looking for that open, honest and so even kind
of making light of like, well, I'm here for the paycheck,
we thought.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
We know where he's coming from because we live in
kind of a world of comedy.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
But for the voters, I'm not sure that was the
way to go.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
They ended up with a score of nine. Next up
was Laria Baldwin and Gleb Suchenko. So, Alaria Baldwin is
Alec Baldwin's wife, and she's a yoga instructor, podcaster, an author.
They have seven kids. Seven kids? How many children people have? Yep?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And apparently was a dancer and had an injury and
had to take take a long time off that came
back with the Chacha chaw Let's get loud by j
Lo And this was just wonderful. She was incredible And
this is like clearly like the beginning of a return
for her to something that she's really good.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
At Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I think there's between her and Elaine. I think the
two of them are probably going to go very far.
And you can tell these are people with dance experience.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I mean you can you know.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
It's the whole show is about race racing cars, and
two of them used to race cars.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You're going to be able to tell.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So it's you know, they used to dance, and you
can tell that they used to dance, and it was great.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Can she win them back? If she's good enough and
humble enough, can she? Her story is pretty great. You
know that she's rediscovering her dance self is pretty That
is a good story.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
It is, I would argue it's a good story if
you don't know the backstory. And since I didn't really
know the full backstory until my wife let me in
on it, then it's kind of like, oh, so, yeah,
I don't Again, Jensen's right, it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
It's going to be.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
If it's a popularity contest, you got to see what's
going to happen, right right, So, but yes, the dance
was wonderful and I thought they deserved the scores they got.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Frankly, ut final Dance of the Night, Robert Irwin and
Whitney Carson. Yeah. So Robert Irwin is the son of
Steve Irwin and he's a global advocate for life and conservation.
Sister one d one season twenty one. I can't believe
how many repeat people in groups, Like everybody, everybody feels

(50:08):
like they already have some relationship to the show, which
I guess makes sense. They did the jive, which I
don't even didn't even know was a type.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
I didn't either.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I didn't to want to be wild by Steppenwolf, and Yeah,
this just blew the house down. It was amazing, And
watching it back, he was really good. He was great.
He felt like he was her equal, Yeah, which I
won't I don't think I can say about any of
the other men.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
No, he also felt like he was so excited to
be there, that he's wanted to do this for years
and he just couldn't wait to get out there.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
He's also, what nineteen something like that, twenty one. He's
so young, and you feel like, oh, there's a part
of dancing that's just a young man's.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Game, and directors just jumping off a car.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
No, your body has to be going for it, and
he has not only the physical capability but also that energy. Yeah,
he can hurl it body around, you know, safely.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
So he's also did this last I mean he had
to sit there all night and watch everybody else go
and the nerves could have gotten to you, and he
just everybody jumped to their feet when we were Where's
he got to go from?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
That's the question.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
If you start out of this one goes to eleven,
Well that's great, where do you.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Go from there to eleven?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
But this goes to eleven? But yeah, it's this.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
He was amazing and incredible, and it seemed like this
should have been a fourth or fifth week performance.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I see.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I wonder if that's all part of an actual strategy
where you blow it out and then you can sort
of take it easy for a little while.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Man, just show a dance or something next time.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I mean, watching it back like, his rhythm is perfect,
his physicality is really spot on, and like I said,
he kept up with her to where I felt like
I was watching two pros agree in the opening dance number.
You have all the people that I was like, oh,
he fits in with this crew. So in the night,
in my opinion, he won the night. For all the reasons,
pageantry or not, he won the night. It was just

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it was really entertaining to watch.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
And somebody who has no dance background, knows nothing of dance,
doesn't like dance, whatever you want to say, would watch
that and be like.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
All right, that was entertaining.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
I will say, my wife is on the show he had.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
He's number one.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I don't have any any doubts about that. I just
wonder the position he's put himself in.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
That's exactly interesting because we want to see him grow.
That's what I mean. Everybody else has room to grow,
and part of the journey is going to be watching
them tell that story through the dance.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
I mean, you, guys, can you not imagine? I can.
I can give you an exact wording. A judge might say,
you know, I'm not sure you've captured what you had
that first week. Yes, the exact sentence.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
But the thing is, if he does grow every week
and that's where he started, no.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
One's going to catch you.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Well, then he's Ben Vereen at the end exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
So Ben Karen, oh my god, come on, Gregory, heines
Ben Gregory Hines Verst of that name, Rishtikov No dance.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Have you heard of dance.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Dance ESK Dance's man, Yeah, no, that was It was
a way to break. It was a great way to
end the show. I just wonder if he just started
too heavy out of the game.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Okay, so let's talk about who we expect to get
kicked off and our top five.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I think on the bubble, you're gonna have Feldman. It's
going to be Corey Feldman's going to be on the bubble.
I think you're going to have Andy Richter is going
to be on the bubble. And hot take. I was
talking about this with Sue last night after watching it again.
Hot take, I think Jordan Chiles might be on the bubble.
Those those are my three possible on the bubble. I

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think because of his personality, Baron Davis is going to
get through. I think, really, I don't think so. I
think people I think his personality is going to be
enough to get him through.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
That's my guess.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I feel like just picking you can't touch this also
aged him up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
But that I think you want to play into the
fact that let people know, man, let's give him another
time he's older.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
So yeah, if.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
You're a deeper cut, do you know what I mean,
like to do like the big mainstream hit from when
you were a teenager or whenever it was cool to
dance to this song ages you up and maybe it
felt like you know.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So then he's he's so who's going home? Those are
my three on the bubble. Who do you think is
going on?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah? I agree with you. I think Corey Feldman is
going to stick around for another week.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
So so you think it's going to be Baron Davis
and Andy Richter that are going to go Yeah, very
very I think the women clearly did better than the men.
I think even the quote unquote older women had dance experience,
and you could tell they had dance experience, where the
older men Andy richteror Baron Davis clearly did not.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I think we're going to see some real shine from
Dylan Efron as the show goes on, because I think
so too. I think he's gonna now he got it
out of a system, and I think he's going to
be like, oh I can do this, I'm going to
figure this out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
So I think Lauren. I think Lauren has a lot
of potential.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I think both the Mormon wives have a lot of
potentially very good I think Danielle.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Has positioned herself perfectly perfect. That she displayed an ability
to do the actual dance what it's supposed to do,
and have personality and really draw you in to the
dance itself. So she's I think she's a great position.
I think she's a.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Soft four strong five position right now, and I think
that's kind of exactly where you want to be after
the first week.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Gives you to grow a fair number. That's a fair number.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Between soft three, probable four, you know, very low.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Five yeah, high five Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, No, she's and that's again room to grow. So amazing,
Uh she did. We couldn't have been prouder of her.
It was because this it be really easy for us
to sit here and do the show and be like,
Danielle wasn't great, but she was.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We don't have to lie.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
It's awesome because she killed it and she had such
a strong connection with her partner. It showed she trusts.
They trust each other, you can tell. And it was
just it seemed like this was their fourth or fifth dance,
not their first one.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yep, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
There is one more thing that I'd like to do
rider before we end here, and it's another little segment
I'm going to be doing every week called the Strong Incentive.
And now what we're going to do is we're going
to start low and then we're going to keep adding
every week, and the point of this is to see
what it would take to get you right or strong

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to be a contestant on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Oh god, I don't think there's a price.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Well, we're going to find out.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
We're going to start this week with just a price,
but then every week we're going to add on to
that price, not just with money, but with other strong
incentives to see if what it would take to get
you on Dancing with the Stars. So we're going to
start just very easily. Someone knocks on your door, they
put down a briefcase. It's got five hundred thousand dollars

(56:51):
in cash. Would you go on Dancing with the Stars?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
No, Okay, Well we will see you again next week
and add to.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
The Yeah, that's just no, it's not because it's not money.
It's it's like it would just be so painful.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I mean, god, Well, we'll see it's gonna take and
I take it to the next.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Level of like will you're being selfish because that money
could go to whatever you want, like charity if you want. Well,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
That's week one. It's gonna get harder. I can tell
you I wouldn't go on the show for one reason
because there is not a dancer in the world that
could teach me how to dance.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And that's the honest truth.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But the strong incentive we are starting at five hundred
kN cash and that is a hard no from Rider
or Strong.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Let's keep this up people, all right, that's it for
this first episode of Podmeates Tworld. Join us next week
as we continue watching season thirty four of Dancing with
the Stars, a journey that's teaching us way more about
sequence and sambas than we ever expected. But in the end,
mostly it's reminding us what we already knew back in
Phoenie's class. Daniel Fishle is the star of the show.

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