TGI - Episode 219 “Wrong Side of the Tracks”

Where to begin with “Wrong Side of the Tracks?” Sure, there’s a new, unexplained Harley and a world class ice skater cameo, but the cast sure seems to be getting more comfortable AND we see the breadcrumbs of Shawn & Turner. This recap we also find out why Nancy Kerrigan joined the Boy Meets World Universe and how a young mouthy Danielle was punished. 
Lace up those skates, it’s time to take the ice!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
My son, Indy has reached a stage where he is
he's eight years old now, and nothing makes him happier
than swearing. And so, you know, I've always had like
what I thought was a very cool, like attitude about this,
which is like Indy, Mom and I don't care. Like
we swear sometimes when you know ourselves, So you can

(00:39):
swear around us, but just don't do it around other
kids or you know, school or like anywhere where it's
inappropriate or your grandparents. You know, like my parents don't care.
But I know Alex's parents as cool as they are,
like they're still kind of old school in New York, like,
you know, they don't like it. So we have this
kind of agreement. But what now that that means is
that he wants to swear around us all the time,
to like let it out and like make a scene

(01:01):
out of it. And so he he this morning, we're
driving in the car and he had recently seen the
Super Mario Brothers movie and he's like, Dad, the funniest song.
There's a character named Bowser. I didn't see the movie.
So he's like, the character named Bowser and he's like,
it's played by Jack Black, and he sings a song,

(01:22):
and so we find this song, you know, and here's
a little side note, Jack Black. Can we just have
a moment of Jack Black appreciation unbelievably? You know, I
didn't quite realize it until you have a kid and
you start seeing like between Jumanji, the Goosebumps films, the
School of Rock. He he is like my son's Tom Hanks,

(01:44):
like he my son thinks he and he is. He's
so brilliant because he plays like villains in these movies
and yet he's so likable and so funny, and my
kid just loves Jack. But anyway, so we played He's.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Probably gonna win an Oscar for Best Song.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's like, yeah, Peaches is hysterical. So we play Peaches
and then I'm like, well, you know, Jack Black has
a band, and he's like what, So I go immediately
to Tenacious D. Man. Did I not realize I clicked
on the wrong song. And it was just like F
bomb boom and F bomb boom and I'm gonna F
you and F I was like, and he loved it,

(02:20):
and he's just like arms in the air, like what
did he say?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And it's like it's it's so over the top swearing.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I could not. I was like, you know, basically this
song exists for Jack Black to just saywork, oh my good,
huge parenting fail.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh my gosh, I know that way.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm gonna pick him uprom school today and all he's
gonna be is like, put on that song.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
How's he been doing with not using it? And like,
how does he do then? With not using it in
front of grandparents? Are at school? How does that go?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
He's okay, you know, he heats up occasionally. No, he
likes to push the envelope, so he likes to in
front of like another kid will be like if I'm
hanging out with him and a friend, he'll be like mother.
He knows all those wear words and he wants to
like insinuate them in front of his friends. And I
think he wants to show off to his friends that
he can do it in front of me. And it's

(03:10):
just like whatever, It's just so funny because it's like,
you know, a year ago, it was anything to do
with farting and pooping, right, like that was still funny.
And he goes through phases and it evolves. Now it's
just like pure awful swear words. As much as he
can throw into and it's like, how did you even
learn this? Like I don't say half of these things
in front of him, you know. But right, Danielle, did

(03:30):
you grow up swearing in.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Front of your parents?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Never. I was wondering if it was an East Coast
West coast thing, because we did. We had we had
soap in our mouth. Oh you got your mouth? Oh
my god, man, we got the bars open our mouth.
Absolutely the seventies.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It was the seventies back East man.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh no, it's I had a bar of soap shoved
in my mouth. It wasn't for saying about word. It
was just for being mouthy. Yeah, and you want to know, Yeah,
I was really mouthy and I was so I was.
You want to hear the story. It's actually really funny.
This will give you a sense of Danielle, like young Danielle,
the little terror that was young Danielle. So I don't
remember what I was being mauthy about, but I had

(04:07):
come home from school and was just mouthing back to
my mom and my dad was out of town because
my dad used to travel a lot for work, and
my mom called him and said, I just don't know
what to do with her. She's so mouthy, and she's
constantly challenging me, and at a certain point, like I
just don't know what to do. And so she had
sent me to my room, and I think I was
upstairs like screaming or slamming things or whatever. And my

(04:27):
dad was like, wash her mouth, that was sop. Try that.
You've never done that. You've never you know, they didn't
spank us, they didn't do anything like that, but my
dad was like, wash her mouth was soap. So my
mom was like, okay. So she goes upstairs and she
goes into the bathroom and I hear her from my room.
I can hear her that she's going into the bathroom,
and I actually thought to myself, Oh good, she's gonna apologize.

(04:50):
And she said, Danielle, I mean this whole story is
gonna be like, yeah, you're a mauthy kid. So I
think to myself, she's gonna apologize. So I get quiet, Danielle,
can you I'm in here, please? And I opened the
door quietly, calmly walk into the bathroom. And the minute
I step into the bathroom, she grabs me by the
back of the head and shoves a bar of soap
into my mouth and I start, I start fighting, and

(05:12):
then realize, oh, this is much better if I don't fight,
So I don't fight it. I just left the bar
of soap sit in my mouth. She has her hand
over my mouth and it sits there for a little
bit and then she takes it out and I spit
in the sink and she goes, so I go. Wasn't
as bad as I thought.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
It is such a story wanted.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I could see in her eyeballs like this, this was
going to be the thing. This was This was what
I had, and I just in the middle of it realized,
like what could be the worst thing I could do?
Just not really care that much?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, just decided to do that.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
There We had the famous fam famous Udell family story
with my older brother Greg, who was not a good kid,
and he was saying the F word and so my
parents put a bar a bar of soap in his mouth.
He did the same thing. She took it out and
he looked at it and he went I like it
and walked out of the room.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
And it's I mean, it's like, what do you do
to get back?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
At that point?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
The worst? The worst is like the impulse as a
parent is to punish them. Uh, but you end up
punishing them with things that you want as a parent.
Like We'll be like, right, no TV, but then I
actually have to parent you for the next four days
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know. You're like, we're taking that away for this
entire vacation.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're like, but then we can't.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
But then I don't have a break exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
So classics, you have to you have to stay strong.
Oh it's hard.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh boy, Will.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying anything. I'm just
going to sleep to eleven tomorrow and enjoy my morning.
I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm Rader Strong,
and I'm Wilfredell. I'm actually mouthy Daniel Fishle. So this
episode of Pod Meets World, we are recapping season two,
episode nineteen, Wrong Side of the Tracks. It originally aired
February twenty fourth, nineteen ninety five, and the synopsis is

(07:03):
after being dumped by a popular posh girl, Sean becomes
obsessed with the idea that he is trailer trash. When
he decides he should join Harley's gang of thugs, Corey
and mister Turner try to scare him straight. Also, Eric
learns how to ice skate in his sleep like you do.
It was directed by Jeff McCracken, was written by Susan

(07:24):
Estelle Jansen. Guest starring Jason Marsden as Jason Marsden, Blake
Soper as Joseph Joey the Rat Epstein, Ethan Sipple as
Frankie Stacchino, and introducing Kenny Johnston as Harley Kiner for
this one.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Episode episode one episode.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
So it has arrived the week that Danny came to
the table read and wasn't able to make it through
the I almost said the podcast.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, well for show in the podcast now are just
kind of one and the same.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's just the same now. So, yeah, Danny wasn't able
to make it through the table read and ended up
being hospitalized, and they spur the moment cast Kenny Johnston
to come in.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Which I would have assumed was like after Danny and
the guys had been on our show for two seasons
at least, like in my memory, they were such a
huge part of the show by the time that this happened.
So the fact that this episode is already here is
shocking to me.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I know really quick that I had that epiphany. I
also had the wow, Jason did a lot more episodes
than I thought, epiphany in this one. And uh, and
then we'll get into the whole Harley thing because a
bunch of things are going through my mind during that scene.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, this is this seems like a seminal episode. This
is like a turning point. I think, so a few ways.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I agree there. I saw one tiny little one for
Danielle too that I want to pick up because it's
right in the beginning and is something that I thought
was really interesting. It's the first time I saw it,
so I think I know what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I think I know what you're going to talk about,
because I was the same. I wrote down something that
I was like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Let's see, let's see all right, go ahead, Wow, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's then starring Christy Clark as Valerie, who played the
battery operated daughter in those weird dur Selkomer shoals where
they look like puppets.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh, I don't remember those.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Remember we talked about that. That's right, we talked about
Christy and I talked about how she did. You don't
remember the Dura Cel ads with the really weird, creepy
kind of robot family.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
No.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh yeah, it was a whole campaign that was like
super creepy, but it's really popular.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Also, the woman who played.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
She was Nebula.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
She was Nebby.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, she was Nebby. So yeah, this is they brought
her back as it was curly.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
When she was Nebula and then straight here which made
her look apparently totally different.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. Google, yeah, writer, eventually you know, google the images
of that durro cell family. It's like, whoa, it's like
max hedroomish weird.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's also guest starring Rebecca Herbst as Jill Hollinger. She
has went on to be in over two thousand episodes
of General Hospital.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh man, wow, that's almost two years worth of General Hospital.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
That's a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's so. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, And then Shane asked her as Mindy Barney is.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yes, so was she Mindy in the last one or
does she even have so?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I don't think she had a name though. She was
also an earnest scared stupid Ye.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
About such a great title.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And last but not least, Nancy Caragan as a Nancy
Caragan Nancy. So to jump into our recap, we start
in the school hallway. We see new character Jill Hollinger
saying yes to a date with Sean and he keeps
asking her to say it again and again with his

(10:38):
name now, and Sean appears rather smitten. Writer, you're shaking
your head.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
It is a weird scene.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I just scene made me uncomfortable. I was like, I
don't know, your best was on point is on point.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And her wardrobe in this.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Whole episodes, she must have ye second.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
One was a little weird where she just looked like the.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Bandjacket I love really.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Majorrette drum like.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
It was like, this is Argan Cooper.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I think that was Sarah Markowitz dressing her the
way Sarah Markowitz like to be dressed like the way.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It was just awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I have a great picture of Sarah and also a
band style jacket like that. And then when Jill leaves,
Corey comes over and says that Jill is a new
type of girl for Sean, and Sean says, yeah, she
has style, elegance and parents. Then Eric walks up alongside
the self titled Jason Marsden and calls them baby geeks,

(11:42):
discovering the female species. Sean says he doesn't see Eric
or Jason with any girls, and Eric says they only
hunt when they need to hunt. And then Eric he's
another new character, alert Valerie and uh he walks over
to ask her out. Right after, Jason says, ha, ha, season.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Another wardrobe thing that I really like that Sarah started
to do more than we did in the first season.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
She's having us re wear the clothes like normal life,
you know, almost.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Sweater a couple times where it's instead of you're in
you know, different clothes every single episode, which is so unreal.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's you know, we were wearing the same stuff, which
is cool.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I mean, that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And it was also cool just knowing Jason's you know,
proclivity for voiceover hearing him.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Oh that he's doing cartoon voices. Cartoon voices, yeah, because
he did that one episode where he was like doing
like a superhero thing too, where he's like, I'm so boy,
I heard the call.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, yes, so he can throw in his cartoon voices where.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
He can did you guys notice? And I thought that
maybe the blocking did end up kind of making sense,
But she walks by the hallway and then apparently just
does a full loop and goes.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Back to that back and around to the bench.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
The only thing I thought of is if her locker
is right over there, and she very quickly opened her locker,
threw something in, and then made it back to the bench.
But I thought, knowing the way that's set up, and
the fact that she walks by this way and then
ends up going this direction is very funny.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Blocking They also try to allude to the fact that
the schools a lot bigger than we think, because she's
a student at the school and she's heard of him,
but they haven't met, right, Whereas you know where I
grew up, the five hundred and six hundred kids in
the school, you know everybody, everybody. Yeah, there's two three
thousand kids in the school, and then the thirty extras
that are.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
And Corey is the most famous persons. The beginning of
school and Radio President is the I mean, he's a
super popular kid.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So before he can even say it, she predicts that
Eric was going to ask her out, but she can't
because she spends all her free time at the ice
skating rink. There's no time for boys. Jason jumps in
and says that sure is a coincidence because Eric sc
as well. Valerie loves this and invites Eric to skate
together on Friday, and Jason says yes for him. Basically, Jill,

(14:08):
Eric is full idiot.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
By now he's full, He's full.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Idiot, Like I can't think I'm it just it took
like three episodes and all of a sudden, he's just.
It's And I've heard some of the writers like Bark
Bluman and people like that say that I was involved
in helping to make the character an idiot, and I
don't disagree with that, especially later in the episode. But
I didn't do anything in three episodes all of a
sudden turn him dumb.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So it is funny.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh, I have no problem.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I think it the dynamics with Jason too, Like this
is probably one of my favorite episodes with Jason, and
I think it's because he's in the driver's seat and
you know, he's the sort of straight man. I feel
like before he was kind of the comic relief and
you were supposed to be the straight man and they
this is like by now it's completely reverted. So he's
the one who puts you in the situation by like line,
and then he also is the one that gets you

(14:54):
out of it. But he could still be funny. But
you're ridiculous, do you know what I mean? Like, you know,
I don't hear more absurd And I think that that's
dynamic fast. Yeah, but it works. It's better.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh, I think so too. It just happened real quick,
like they kind of went.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh no, it didn't kind of happened overnight.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, hey man, that's the way shows were, right, I mean, ye.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you do it in one episode and it works,
and then you go, let's keep it going. And if
it keeps working, you've now done and you're.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
On nine your's head. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So Eric breaks the news to Jason that he doesn't
skate at all, and Jason says, Canadians skate? How hard
can it be?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Hard?

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Can it be?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
What a diss to our neighbors.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
To the north.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I mean, we never diss anybody. I can't wait to
see you guys in Connecticut soon.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
But then I love this moment where you agree with
him as.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
That, and then I love that Eric goes one way
and Jason the other.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Way.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You guys even just continued it on with like now
we both split up. It's very cute. Your your dynamic
is the this.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Is I noted that. I was like, oh, Will is
having so much fun and just sort of owning it,
you know, like the scene has ended and then you
continue it with a beat, And that's my note for later.
I don't know if the same thing you noticed. Well, yes,
because Danielle does the same, Ya improvs and like has
a moment and it's like, oh my gosh, we are.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
All so like comfortable and natural and comfortable and wrote this.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
So it's so funny because you had this moment, Jason,
and then she did it the next seat. I was like,
oh my god, we've all like arrived where we're it's
just like in front of the audience having a good time.
It's so cool.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Absolutely, yep, I agree, it was really fun. Well, we're
in mister Turner's classroom and a new class project to
Panga says she is writing a biography on someone she
really admires, Katie Couric. Corey mocks Katie Couric for being
perky and phony, and Corey says he's writing about Captain
James T. Kirk of the USS Enterprise to.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Say, just as a nerd, I love that because they
easily in the nineties, Star Trek the next generation was
hugely popular, but they were old school star Trek, which.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is right USX Enterprise.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yes, Welly, like, have we established a court? I mean no,
in like baseball all ye that He's like they went
dar Trek guy, Like, is really not.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
That doesn't make any sense to love anyone old school,
love anyone old school.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean I like the reverence. I think it's funny
that he has, like, you know, this fictional. I just
thought it was a weird and this episode Corey kind
of felt weird to me, Like I feel like we're
discovering a new Corey. Like I don't know, he was
less likable in this episode than he has been in
the past, and I'm not sure what that was. Yeah,
I mean, maybe it's just me taking.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Sean loved the dynamic of the two together. Yeah really,
because oh yeah, I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I don't know. This is this is definitely like the
beginning of Shawn's new thing. Like I feel like this
is the turning point where it's like, oh, Shawn's now
in a soap opera and we are going to go
down this path.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, yeah, But it was also the kind of thing
that the dynamic that you've talked about how much you
like where it's look, I'm I'm Corey, You're Sean. That's
all we need to know about each other, in each
other's lives, and that's all we need. So I thought
I liked that.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
I thought I guess it just came out. I mean
Corey always. I like Corey lighthearted, you know what I mean? Like,
I like Corey as the sort of innocent and like
there's a level of like I don't want to say anger,
but intensity that Corey's bringing to like helping Sean in
this episode. That sure, it felt kind of negative to me.
It felt like I just didn't like it as much.
I was like, oh, oh so dramatic.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah him, he made it about him. But I think
I think a lot of that is. One of the
things I did really like about this episode is that
we've talked about it a lot, how as a kid
you look to external sources to tell you who you are,
and Sean has felt comfortable. You've been nothing but comfortable
in your own skin all this time until someone says

(18:37):
to you, what you are isn't good enough for me,
and I don't like it, And all of a sudden
you go, wait a minute, should I not be confident?
Should I not be comfortable? And Corey doesn't see that
it has everything to do with your internal state. He goes,
why is he taking it out on me? What did
I do? What about me?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Me? Me? Me?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And it's not until his dad says, he's not mad
at you, he's mad at himself, and he's taking it
out on you because he really needs you so, which
is also a very kid thing to do. You you
instantly somebody treats you bad, and you go, well, what
did I do?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Why?

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Me?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And it really has nothing to do with your right
What did I do? Exactly? So I really actually liked
that aspect of it. I felt like that's all that's
kid logic was really strong in this right. So, mister Turner,
who's in a very colorful tie, it's somewhat comic book looking.
It looked almost like comic strips.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Was cool.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Uh tries to tell Corey to pick someone real, but
Corey makes loud noises and covers his ears to drown
it out. La la la, Turner says Corey doesn't have
to pick someone famous, just someone he likes. So Corey
picks Sean, and Sean picks Corey to Panga tells Turner
he walked right into that one, and Turner agrees, and yes,
I do a little ad lib. That was terrible because
I just say yes, yes, terrible.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Just know each other.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
And that's what I liked about. I liked that it
was very much like uh, Turner and Topanga have after
episode after episode, by the way of Tapanga not even
being in Turner's class I like that it felt very
much like Turner and Topanga are the adults in the classroom,
certainly at least as far as the Cory and the
Shawn are concerned. So I thought that was really cute. Yes,

(20:19):
then we're in the school cafeteria. Corey is asking Sean
where he's from for his biography. I'm from here, and
then Corey writes down that Sean was raised by wolves,
and Sean Howel's in response.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
In a huge, huge shirt which one no Rider shirt
is enormous. It's absolutely enormous.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Shirt is so huge, two of them down to his knees.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Honestly bought large shirts until I was twenty something because
I thought you I thought that's what you did. You
were supposed to do size large.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, now that's very in, because oversized is very in.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Thank Really we've gone back.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Huh oh yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
That's why all my clothes are so oversized. Now comfortable,
so comfortable.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's why it's not because it's the most comfortable way
to dress.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Because it's so coolish. It's so coolish. I have good
street style, guys, I.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Have a good robe style all the time.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Jill comes over in a very cute band jacket, I
just love it and tells Sean she can't go out
with him Friday or Saturday, but she doesn't give him
a reason, and Sewan and Corey are confused as to
what happened. So Corey walks over to yet another new character,
alert Mindy, and asks what's wrong the.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Same unless it's Shay Plain, unless it was Mindy in
the episode that she was.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
In before, right, it could have been maybe but in.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
The last episode because she's just like Kicky, or that
she's the one who came forward about Sean saying girls
were icky. Right, Okay, so she must have had a name.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Then I don't know. Yeah, she had a different the.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Same because didn't she she walked off with Sean to
just cheeseburger.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, so she wouldn't be that anti Sean.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think it has to be different.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think she's supposed to be a different character character.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, I think so too. We had two hours in
this episode.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, Mindy is dressed well, she's wearing a pearl
necklace and a button down blazer. I know it really is.
She looks like Chelsea Clinton. She said it's pretty obvious
her parents have a problem with Sean, and she says
Jill and Sean don't belong in the same circle because
of where Sean's family lives and what they do. And
when Corey rejoins Sean, Sean says he shouldn't have ever

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asked her out, and Corey says she doesn't know what
Mindy is talking about. She's a snob.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well before that, here's the one thing I didn't understand.
So she says, you know, you can't possibly think they'd
want to go out because where Sean's from.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Can I go? And Ben's like, yeah, go, and the
audience laughs.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
It reminded me of the from the room where he
tells a horrible story. He's like, great story, Mark where
it's like, wow, you didn't hear what I just said
at all? Right, So they had like this tramatic scene
and the audio there was a laugh from the audience.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
It was like, this is the laugh that we're so obnoxious?
Like maybe is it just very odd?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Maybe it was at the reading. I don't know, but
it just it was a very misplaced last last.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
And it's a laugh after Ben says yeah you can go.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, she's She's like yeah go, like and it wasn't
like a funny yeah go. It was like you just
insulted my friend. You played it really dramatically like yeah go,
and there was like a laugh. It was like that
was straight huh. Yeah, it was really weird. It was
really weird.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Sean says he's never had a shot because he lives
in a trailer park, and Corey says, but it's a
nice trailer park. It even has a pool when it rains.
And then we are in the Matthew's kitchen. It starts
in the backyard side yard. Eric says he needs Jason's
help since he told Valerie he can skate. Jason says,
I always come up with something, don't I And Eric
says no, and Jason says, then I'm due, and uh.

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I noticed in this episode again a lot of different
blocking that I loved, like in the cafeteria when you
had your back Jeff mccaron and great, great blocking. I
love Jason saying that I'm dou as he's like literally
inches away from walking into the door. It was really great.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I also prefer and they had it in this episode.
I prefer more shorter scenes than fewer, longer scenes.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Really.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
In this episode, yeah, it seemed like there was kind
of like one pager here, a two pager here, a
three pager here. I like the way that.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Broke it up.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It just seemed like a lot more happened in this episode.
That's one eleven page scene.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's funny. I think I like the play scenes, you know,
and first season had a few more of those. I
feel like we had we had less characters, right, so
it was and it was more just focused on Corey,
so they would be like that that basketball scene where
he plays basketball fan that was like a ten to
twelve page scene.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, there's much to do about nothing with the one
door opening, another door shutting, very farcical, faulty tower keeps
it moving. This is starting and we're going to hear
picking up this scene and we're starting outside. Like I
like that kind of the movement that this episode had.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
And then when we go end up outside with Nancy
Kerrigan is a whole nother level to it.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
And it's just kind of the parking lot at the end,
Like it just felt like there was a lot going on,
but it was. There was a through line through the
whole thing that I really liked. So yeah, a lot
of energy. Thought it was good.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, they walked through the kitchen to where Amy and
Alan are and so is Sean, Corey and Morgan. They're
sitting at the kitchen table. Eric and Jason make their
way upstairs. As we hear Eric to Claire, he is
not wearing spandex.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And that was Amy, right, It wasn't Olivia Newton John.
I know, like Olivia Newton John.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
She had the he and her hair. Yeah, I know,
Look she had a little flash dance going on.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Did She's a maniac.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So, Corey, Shawn, and Morgan are looking at old pictures
for the school assignment and perusing his privilege via photos
Sean asks if Corey has always lived in a house.
He also notes that while Corey was playing in a sandbox,
Sean used to play in the burnt out old Chevy
back by the septic tanks. Sean says he's not going
to stay, but he invites Corey to his place for dinner.
Corey gives a disgusted look when he asks if Shann's

(25:59):
dead his broiling fish on the engine of his pick
up again. Sean, upset thought that Corey liked the fish
last time. Corey clearly didn't. Ben Sean leaves angry and
pointing out all the nice stuff Corey has. When asked
about helping Corey with the biography, he says, I lived,
I died, No big deal, and he exits struggle.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah. So this is I mean, it's it's it's that
you know, we I guess season one had that the
Christmas episode where Sean didon you know, Dad's got fired
and all that. But but then we've basically since then
been making the jokes abo trailer park poverty, right or
you know, all the guidance counselor the poem about Yeah.

(26:40):
So this is interesting too that this is the episode
where it all kind of starts to turn, yeah, into
the drama, and I think it's gonna stay there. Like,
I mean, I guess there's still jokes about uncles, and
but it's interesting that this turn starts happening.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think, really, I wonder if
it had a lot to do with them starting to
think about you know, we're nearing the end of season
two and they're probably starting, Yeah, they're thinking, how do
we make this seven seasons? And what is it going
to be? Is it going to be what is their
friendship dynamic going to be? Is it going to be
the friend who's from the wrong side of the tracks?
And how do you keep how do you maintain a

(27:15):
friendship when you're from different places? And so, you know,
I mean, it's smart to set that up.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, And I have a question since this is now
episode WHENY is that right?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Nineteen twenty or twenty one nineteen, So.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
We're coming towards the end of the season. I think
we've talked about this before, but I'm not sure we
ever got a definitive answer. Do you think they know
yet that we've been picked up for a third season?

Speaker 6 (27:36):
No, I don't think they ever knew no, no, not Michael,
nobody at the top.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
You don't think anybody knew at this point.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, But I think they are setting up probably some
cliffhanger moments in order to ensure it in case, because
clearly this is the beginning of the Sean Turner dynamic.
And I think this season ends with me moving in
with Turner if I remember correctly, or because it's close
to it, or me running away from home. I think
that this season. So they they, they they're starting to
connect those dots, which is great, you know, like, and

(28:03):
that's I think that's mostly what this episode is about,
is setting up that potential for for Sean and Turner
to have their relationship, which will carry into season three.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right, and then we're in the school hallway. Sean already
missed first period and said he had a conflict. Mister
Feenie was a man.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Am I loving rubbing my hands? I have a plan,
I've done something. I did Jesus.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I also noticed the change in wardrobe, the cameo pants
and striped Sure.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I couldn't see you from the waist down.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It disappeared.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I thought it definitely seemed like somebody who was up
to no good, up to no good. Mister Feoenie walks
down the hall in rain boots and warns students that
the lower hallway is flooded and the library is only
accessible by canoe. Phoene says the school is sink and
calls for Janitor Bud to get his big mop. I
love thinking to Janitor Bud and how much they poor

(29:08):
life dealing with these children. Sean says he also freed
the rats in the biology lab and turned all the
clocks ahead twelve hours, and then a bell goes off.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah right now, what I say, like, yeah sure or whatever?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yes, yes, sure.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
He casually has caused tens of thousands of dollars in
angry pranks. Cory asks what Sean is doing, and he
says he's giving Corey good stuff for his bio. Sean
says he realized he's trailer trash. Corey asks if this
is because of Jill, but Sean says no, she actually
did him a favor and she showed him where he belongs.
And then we reveal Harley the new actor. A new

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Harley comes walking over with Joey and Frankie and they
say they're not impressed with what Sean is doing. Blake
is so incredible.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
He's so funny with everything this whole episode, whole episode.
He's so good.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It is such a weird choice to me to just
replace the actor and keep it the same.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's just make any sense. It wasn't the night before shooting.
We had a whole week. Why not just remove the character,
which he they've done before and just have Frankie and
Joey and say Harley's off doing so. I mean, it's
one line. It would either way they did with with
you Rider when they got rid of the third best
Friend and just gave you all the lines. They could

(30:33):
have given one of them or broken it up between
the two of them, given them the lines or.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You just say Harley's not here this and that would be.
Part of the thing, is that I want to be Harley,
or like I want to be in the game.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
It's like it could have so out of the show
to go, wait, that's now Harley.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's a confusing choice. I would love to know more
about what went into but I mean, yeah, because because
you know, we talked about this before. But I really
do think there was just an assumption that people didn't
rewatch shows and that you could just insert a different
actor and nobody would really care or notice enough for
it to be a big deal. And it's just by the.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Way, Kenny Johnston's actually really good.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
He is most completely different.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's a totally different take.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's a totally different take, but it's he's.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Still like a funny, charming like.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
He didn't do him any favors because like, if he
was just a different character, you may have liked him
like that. You're like, exactly, they brought in another character.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I mean they did this. Why, It's like, why not
do that?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
It's a bummer because like when he says baboon, you're
just like upset that it's not Danny's delivery. There's like
a couple of moments where I was like, I feel
bad for Kenny because I'm like judging the delivery. But
that's only because I have such Danny.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
You know, you just hear it's written for Danny, either
of them exactly know, you know, it's it's like he's
doing the best he can, but it's yeah, we as
an audience are so aware of how it should be delivered, right,
and they didn't change it enough.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
It's it's a bizarre choice.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It was such a bizarre choice, I know.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Going back to Blake, he says a line here that
I forgot that we said over and over we.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Ain't impressed with your piddly little monkey shine.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Little monkey shines. We said that for like five yearslyle
monkey monkey shine.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
He says, everything just so fun I mean, this whole episode.
I was just again blown away by him.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Biscuits later, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Oh my favorite was still you gotta slouch a little,
a little bit, a little bit, so.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Good, so funny. Harley says they always need to look
out for new talent, and they offer him a spot
in their Bully internship program. Harley invites Sean to sit
in the parking lot with them, and Sean starts to
make his way into his new role. Just then the
bell rings and mister Turner says class is starting. Corey
tries to stop Sean from ditching class and hanging out
with Harley's gang, but Sean ends up walking out anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
All right, so now this Tony's tie, I was trying
to figure it off.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
The top is blue and then there's stuff at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I thought. All I could think is that they look
like ice pine cones. That's all I can see. I
was like, I'm trying to describe what these shapes are
and there I think they're blue ice colored pine cones.
I don't know, it's beautiful. But I was like, I
just want high death. I want all of these ties
like in a museum so we can walk around and
serious appreciate the worry I do.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I want a picture of all them. And you know
she took them. I mean I doubt she still hasn't,
but you know, as part of wardrobe, they take polaroids
of everything you're wearing. Oh wo, so we should you
know what, I need to contact Sarah Markowitz and ask
her if she has turned by any chance, any of
those Turner tie polaroids. That would be amazing. Then we're
in the Matthew's backyard. Corey asks mister Feenie if he
can ask him something, and mister Feenie assumes it's to

(33:47):
write about him for the biography assignment.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
This first beat with Bill behind the fence, that was
great because it was like it was so funny him
just like, oh god, and because it's like we can
now comment on that this is the trope that the
show knows has to happen when Actually, it hasn't happened
this entire season. We've not had a Cory Phoenie over

(34:09):
the fence moment we've had. I think we've had Feenie
and Allan over the fence.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know, we've had this maybe. Yeah, it's so great
Phoenie and Turner. I think I might have even had
a fen scene this year.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, but yeah, you're right they did.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I never thought about it. But it is also a
home improvement thing, right, Yeah, do you remember Wilson, Yeah,
of course Wilson.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, absolutely, he went from being on home improvement to
being a volleyball Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
So Bill starts talking about himself as mister Feenie. A
lot of people think I was born in Boston. Corey
inter reps and says he's not writing about Phoenie, He's
writing about Sean, and Phoene says, yes, that's the obvious choice.
Falling somewhere between Gandhi and Soupy Sales.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Sure, hello, Supe Sales got a reference in our show
and then.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Came on our show.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Listen we had, we had? It is no surprise where
those guest stars came from, directly from the minds of
our writers of our writers.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think I think we should make a T shirt that's,
you know, like Harley shirt, but it's just sean somewhere
between soupy sale.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's funny. Cory asks if people turn out a certain
way because of where they come from and who their
parents are, but phoene says he believes a man, no
matter where he comes from, chooses his own path. Amy
calls for Corey to dinner, and he responds, I'll come
in when I choose to, but Amy tells him to
get his butt in the house, and feoene and Corey
realize that Phoeney's idea bites.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That was a good, a good little little coupling at
the end there for that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, and the two of them, I'm thinking, I'm yacky.
And then we're in the school hallway. Jason gives Eric
a tape to learn how to skate in his sleep,
but Eric says, I don't want to skate my sleep.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Which he does. By the way, you're doing it, the.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Legs going exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Jason says, you're lucky you have that cute smile. Jason
says he dubbed over his mom's weight loss tape and
it worked for Eric says, no, it didn't. Your mom
is huge, and Jason says yeah, and in only eight weeks,
which I don't get. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
There's there's nothing to get. It's just it's funny words
next to each other. I think it's pretty much just what.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
A funny rep parte? That doesn't okay?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, sure. Eric says this is a stupid idea and
he's just gonna tell Valerie he can't skate, but then
she walks by having a conversation that ice skating skirts
are getting shorter and shorter and pretty soon she won't
be wearing anything.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
It's sorceled again, ladies, It's sorceled again. I have lost
the ability to breathe on my own.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
So what happened? Do you think they just they came
up with this bit like what what? What came first?
Nancy Kerrigan? And then they had to write an episode
around it? Or like I'm so curious what they were thinking,
Like because this is a storyline, I think it's hysterical.
Like I like the idea that you lie and you
have to skate, and then I like the idea of
like the tape and the food stuff but it's pretty funny.
But I wondered, what, like was it to have a

(37:04):
dream sequence? Is Nancy Kragan I rationalize having her on
the show? Or did they come up with a skating
pitch first and then like maybe we could have the
dream sequence be the most famous skater of the world.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Like, it's a good question. I honestly have no idea.
Who knows strong storyline?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And Kendall we should ask? I'm so because it's either
that it's just a great pitch, right, like a tape
that teaches you how to to skate in your sleep
and then who's that's funny? Or it's that the writers
were just really good at taking the challenge of how
do we write Nancy Kerrigan into the show and then

(37:40):
worked backwards and came up with a great like B storyline.
It's really strong and funny. Yeah, I don't know either way.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
It's cool, but I'm sorry, I'm texturing him right now.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I just get the answer, please. So Eric then changes
his mind, of course because he's ensourceld, and he clarifies
with Jason, So I just played the tape while I
sleep nearby, Joey is showing Sean how to be like
them by just sitting and pouting, and then they send
him to go get the bagels. And this little scene
with you and Blake is so great, good, so funny.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, we could have they could have been a whole
episode of just Sean trying to fit in with them,
Like it would have been Ethan and Blake and Sean
and would have been so many great scenes. Yeah, but
this is Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Just this little bit of it we get. I wanted
so much more.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Favorite moment of the whole episode is that just a
little bit, that's just the way, a little bit a
lit and.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
He's like, look a little bit, like, oh, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Blake is so timitted.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Makes me want to have just again. And having nothing
against Kenny, but just having the two of them there
with you would have been as good without being jarring
at all. And it was just really kind of jarring.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Writer, you did this mouthing. Do you remember when you
jumped down off the thing you like, did you notice
that you wiped your mouth before you went to go speak.
I was trying to figure out if it had something
to do with you know, sometimes you're in a scene
and you have to do something like he was making
your mouth pout, and then you realize you have like
you have something on your face, but you're in the
middle of the scene, and so you try to like

(39:09):
make it natural that you fix you did something where
you like went like this, like right before you went
to the.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Man's spittle, where you occasionally.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It is good.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
It happens.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So Sean runs into Corey, and Corey asks where he's been,
and Sean says, nowhere, man, And then Sewan starts nice impression.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
That was a great read. Can we talk about something.
I don't know how to describe this exactly, but this
is like the classic boy meets World thing and it's
going to become and it was big and girl meets World,
but it's going to become a recurring like I don't
know what to call it, like a law of Boy
meets World dynamics, like which is a character being aware

(39:52):
of themselves as a character and making decisions based on that. So,
like this whole episode is built around this idea that
Sean is supposed to be trailer trash, is supposed to
be a bad kid, and he's saying that out loud
as a character and then making choices, and it's kind
of it's a very strange storytelling technique that we will

(40:13):
spend a lot of boy Me's world time on like, yeah,
every companion will always be like we were supposed to
be together. You're my core You're where we actively talk
about the sort of laws of the world of the
show as if they're like things that we would ever
know or think about in real way.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
It's an incredible self awareness that normal people don't have
until they have decades to look back and they that's
why I that's why I was attracted to that certain
type of person, because I tell myself this story, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
I wasn't supposed to go to college. I'm supposed to
be I'm supposed to be whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
We haven't done it that much yet, have we, Like,
I feel like until they get into it, because this episode,
like when I leave that the kitchen scene and I'm like, no, no, no,
I'm supposed to be this way is like one of
the first times I feel like we've really hit that,
because it's one thing to have, like the Corey Sean
dynamic where Corey's freaking out and Sean says, no, you're Corey,
I'm Sean, we're supposed to be framing like, that's different.

(41:12):
This is a character self consciously making decisions and changing
their behavior based on their awareness of themselves as a
certain type of character.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
And it's just like this strange meta thing that I
don't you know, and I felt it happening in this
episode and then like the memory came back, like, Oh,
we're going to be We're gonna be doing this a lot,
like and I know, what's.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
One of the things that people love so much about
it is because it started to make people think of
their own lives that way, Like is this why I
feel this way? Because I see myself in this person
and I see what they're thinking and they're saying right,
just outright, Well, the reason I'm doing this is because
my family is different. I comes from this different place.

(41:52):
I'm supposed to be this.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's my face anyway. So I mean, that's exactly what
Sean says. It's like he gets to let me get there. Now.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
It's like a weird form of ideasy politics, right, It's
like a weird sense of awareness about your identity in
the world and how other people.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Perceive how you play into it.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Now, you play into it and then making decisions either
falling into that or working against it, and the choices
you make. Yeah, it's a I don't know. I don't
know what to call it or how to think about it,
but it's something we should keep an eye on because
it's going to keep happening. It is the show in
a lot of ways. It's a defining, defining characteristic of
our writing.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
You're absolutely right. We'll come up with the name for that,
because you're right, we're going to want to refer to
it a lot, I think so.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
So.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Sean starts to compare the differences in his life to
Corey's and says he knows how he's going to end up,
so he might as well get there now. Sean leaves
and Corey follows. After punching a locker and mister Turner
approaches Harley and says to cut Sean a break. Turner
says this is not what Sean needs right now. Harley
basically tells Turner to mind his business, which leads mister
Turner to threaten Harley by saying he's going to get

(43:02):
a lot more than a speech if Sean isn't back
in his classroom.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Quick update from David Kendall. Disney had Nancy on some
sort of a deal and wanted her on as many
shows as possible. We were asked to find a way
to incorporate her. It was a whole thing. I had
to pitch her manager whom she later married, on the
dream sequence idea in a phone call. But we ended
up shooting something very funny.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So it was they backed into a really funny.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Storyline, a really great storyline.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
That's cool. That's so cool. I yeah, that makes me
feel good about our writing staff. You know that they
had to, like they have this challenge, like how do
we getance A Karragan on our show? Yeah, and they
came up with a very funny.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Creator, like, we have Nancy Kerrigan, so we're going to
use her in a dream sequence. Yes, how does this
tie into Eric dating?

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yes, exactly. The sleeping the subliminal message tape such a thing.
Oh god, it was so funny. When she's becomes the
tape turnover to the sitting next favorite. I just love
her because she says it's so earnestly, like committed. This
is the end of side of the end of side one.
You're like, oh god, it's so cool.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
That's cool. That's what that was.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
That is cool. So Turner leaves, and Harley says he
now has the perfect initiation idea for Sean. And then
we are in Corey and Eric's bedroom. Eric is asleep
listening to the tape that Jason gave him. It's a
weight loss tape, but with words like ice, skate and skate,
real good.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Real good, feel good again Jason mars and voiceover.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
As he listens, Eric dreams of Olympic figure skater and
recent assault victim Nancy Kerrigan, grabbing his hand and pulling
him onto an ice drink in the middle of a
big wintery scene. Nancy says she will help Eric skate
right into Valerie's heart, even though his last time he
was he skated was at a third grade party where
he fell and split his lips.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Lips, lips.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I always say my lip right on Eric lips.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
My lips, split his lips. He couldn't even eat the cake.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
We were in lake They took us to Lake Placid.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
They flew I was with Kendall and Karen McCain and
flew us to Lake Placid and it was freezing cold.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Oh gosh, freezing, freezing, so beautiful. Though, Kendall then directed
this whole scene, right he did.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
He directed the entire dream sequence. I think that's the
first time he ever directed me, and he directed the
whole dream sequence. And Okay, so I can finally tell
you we had some amazing stories going into this about
recording all this stuff. But I'm not going to tell
you now because next week Nancy Kerrigan is on our podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
She is coming on.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Herself and we will be able to talk about all
this cool stuff and uh and more So, I don't
want to ruin anything because we want to talk about
it with Nancy. But there are some great stories and
some some you know, stuff that we went through while
over there. But it was it was really fun. It was.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
I'm so excited and as I was rewatching, it's just
another thing that the show has allowed me to do
and the industry has allowed me to do where you
have these moments where it's you know, at the time,
arguably the greatest figure skater in the world and I'm
sitting there on a private lake, private frozen lake, as she.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Skates around me, and it's just like, where else do
you get to experience something like that? I mean, it's
so cool.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I was also reminded, will didn't you date a professional
skater for a while, like after this, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
No, she wasn't professional. She was she was the runner
up national figure skating champion of Canada, but yeah, for
years she was. She was the skating double in a
movie I did with Matt Lawrence called so Skating.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Cut Oh And then they needed them. So skating kind
of became a part of your life.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Skating did, and it was their because when the whole
episode where she was like, Hey, I can't really have
boys in my life because I spend the whole time
at skating, some people were like, oh, come on, who
does that? But when you've seen the world, that's what
it's like. I mean, Kila was her name was Kila
Ohs the skater that I did. Shoutout Quila. I haven't
seen her in years, but very sweet girl. And that
was her life. I mean, she went to school and

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she skated. That was it.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
And when she wasn't skating, she was working out.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
That's it was.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
It was her life.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
That's what she did. And it was, as you know,
blood sweat and tears. To get to that level of
any competitive excellence and that's what her life was, so
that that resonated when she was like, I'm sorry, I
can't date you skating, that's that's real. But sitting there,
it was just that moment of I'm sitting here in
Lake Placid watching Nancy Kerrigan skate around.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Me really cool obviously or was that you?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
That was all me?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
A lot of people don't know that. I'm also again,
this is where we're glad we don't have high death because.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I changed my last name to Fudell. I was actually
born Will Kpaids. A lot of people don't know that.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I don't get.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
There, you go anyway.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
So Nancy says, not to put barriers up, and you
just need to believe in yourself. She says, hush, take
my hand, and then she does an incredible like mini
routine as you just stand there in awe. Eric then suddenly,
though slow at first, knows how to perfectly ice skate
and he has jumps and turns.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
The music tells you how to feel so like when
you first start, the music is literally turned swells into
this beautiful orchestoral.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Moment yep, and then you do a triple lots LUTs,
double axle sow cow and uh, the stunt double is
like two miles away, so we don't see his face.
They also made sure you had a hat and a
scarf on so that you know when he was tucked in,
you couldn't even see him. Eric says he never wants
this to end, but Nancy says it must and then

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tells him to turn the tape over. Eric wakes up
from his dream as Nancy was actually saying what the
tape is repeating. He gets out of bed and excitedly
says he can skate now, and food has no power
over me, power over me.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
And Den's face after one of the best eyebrows the
other thing I wrote down, and I obviously understand why
they have to do it this way.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
But every television show, along with pushing the food on
your plate, everybody sleeps on their back. H huh oh, yes,
there's never There's never a scene where you come up
and the person sleeping on their side or sleeping on
their stuff face. Never a thing. It's always everyone sleeps
like this all the time in every television show.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Actually, his arms behind him.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
It's just like naturally sleeping sound asleep like you do
all night long while the person next to you also
sleeps like this all night long. Yeah, it's so funny.
It was great.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Corey pours orange
juice and in his cereal instead of milk, and Alan
notices that something is wrong. Corey tells Alan that Sean
doesn't want to be his friend anymore, since Sean thinks
they're going to grow up and not be friends, so
he wants to stop now, all because of where he
lives and what a snobby girl thinks.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Rusty's response is just so great. He has something he's
like since when. Like the way he said the phrase
since when was so I don't know. It's also like
a Yeah, it was so real and earnest, and it
was just like the best dad thing he could have done,
you know what I mean. There's no judgment, there was
no it was just like, please tell me more.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I want to like, it was just it was I'm
starting to get a little miffed though, and it's just
my own personal thing that now every time we see him,
it's just a small scene in the kitchen because he's
so good. He's so good that I want and I
know that they're trying to work him in. I get
that we now have a bunch of character shifting is.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
The way it's going to be for the rest of
the show. I know he's so good.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
That I just want to see both of them more
and more because every time he comes down and gets
a pie and it's five sentences, it's just so engaging
and so good and so real, and man, I just
want to see twenty minutes of that. I know we can't,
and I get it it's my own personal thing, but
he's just so good that I.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Just want those.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I know, I do want more of it. I want
the show to be an hour so that it's.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah, like the Ben the Corey Allen scenes are just
so good. They've kind of taken over for the Corey
Feenie scenes.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
They have and they're great.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
They're just so engaging and like you said, they're so
real that you're just there, you're mesmerized.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I also want to acknowledge that we've talked about how
some of our episodes have come before Seinfeld episodes, before
certain Friends episodes, and this storyline here and Corey break
it down. I was like, this is a real band,
she's of inassurance, this is the real band. She's of
Inassured episode.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Years ahead of It's.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
A great movie. Will you have to watch it? Incredible
farrel just truly incredible.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
It's really is it animates are their wizards? No?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
No, okay, but it's very funny. It is a funny.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
It's dark, but it's funny, a dark.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Dark comedy. Yeah. So Alan says, Sean probably isn't really
mad at Corey, and people tend to push them. People
tend to push you away when they need you the most.
And I thought, what a really beautiful way, exactly like
you said writer the minute, he says, since when you
know he's invested, interested and concerned.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
The best at ever.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Also, we've also established that he was Shawne, so that's
the other thing he's coming at it from a place
of he's been.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It would have been nice to have a little hint
to that, a little bit, but we don't have time.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah, So it's we've already established that he's probably did
that to his best friend at one point. So yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
So then we're in the school parking lot. Harley is
sitting on Turner's Harley while Joey holds a baseball bat
Frankie says, it's so clean you could eat it, but
Joey corrects him, you mean you can eat off it,
And Frankie says, I said what I said.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I said what I said.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
There's a couple. I mean this is okay. So I
mean Ethan's whole role in this scene is like food jokes,
I know, and it's a bummer, like because we also
we didn't talk about it, but in the the you know,
when they go to the movie theater and he like
has to get out of the thing because he.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Does to get the snack.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
It's all wait, it's all about it.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's all weight jokes, which must have been a bummer
for him, you know, like her to have to, Like
I don't think they would make these jokes these days,
you know, I don't think shows do this anymore, but
like back then it would have been, and in fact,
we probably didn't do you know, wait the way other
shows would have Like I feel like back in the day,
like old I don't know, you know, making fun of

(53:06):
kids teenagers are being overweight was like standard fair. It
was like it was just part of part of comedy
you watch, like goonies, and and that's like what they're doing,
so in a weird way, like we were probably more
restrained or more clever, Like these are clever lines, like
I said, I mean, but it's still kind of a bummer.
I feel. I feel, I felt, you know, especially haring
what he has gone through, you know, like that this

(53:28):
contributor in his personal life. Yeah, like it's just hard man.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, I mean, we've talked about it with our guest
with our guests too, like when you get put into
a certain box and then you just you get those
same jokes in general, same same jokes just fed back
to you in different ways. It really takes.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
But again, had they not brought on the new Harley
and given part of those storylines, we wouldn't needed that,
you wouldn't have needed any of that kind of stuff
because he wouldn't have just been the one line guy
here or there. He would have been one of the
people driving the whole scene. So it just was unnecessary
to bring this poor actor in to fill a role
nobody could at that point.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I know.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Just yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
So Sean asks what they're going to do with the bike,
and Harley tells Sean that he's actually going to hit
the motorcycle. It appears to be an initiation of sorts.
Frankie suggests starting with the headlight. Sean misses with his
first swing and asking we.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Talk about how beautiful the motorcycle is.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Probably gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
It's gorgeous. I didn't remember that, like the color. I
was like, yes, that might be.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I could be wrong and I could just be making
this up. That might be one of Michael Jacob's actual motorcycles.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Michael motorcycles.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Oh yeah, Michael's a big motorcycle rider. Absolutely so that.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Oh yeah, I knew Rusty had a beautiful bike. Rusty
had like a cool old Harley, but he had like
a small handlebar situation he had.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
His was like the Cafe La, but this was I'm
I'm pretty this could have been one of Michael's bikes. Wow. No,
Michael was a big rider.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Sean asks for a couple of practice hits, but Joey
and Frankie call him a chicken, and again we get
an absolutely genius read from joe and uh Aka Blake.
And this time I pulled a clip, so let's play
thank you.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, I'm just smelling chicken.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
A big one extra Crispy, I said, we think him
to the current, go pluck you, frya and serve you
in a bucket with biscuits. Biscuits. It is so musical.
He's basically reciting a poem. He's like, oh my gosh,
it's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I love it. I couldn't even I couldn't even just
write it down. I was like, we have to just
it's just incredible.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Why do we fall in love so much with all
these characters they get rid of every single time, every time.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
So Frankie then leaves and the bashing is about to start,
but then Corey walks out right at the perfect time.
Sean tells Corey to leave. Corey tries to grab the
bat from Sean, but Sean says Corey doesn't belong there.
Harley calls Cory a baboon, and that's when it felt
extra They Harry Les don't have him say that, and
he suggests he walks away. Corey stands up to Harley,

(55:57):
but then his reality kicks in. He makes an amazingly
cute face and laughs. I thought Ben's reaction to this
when he's like, your greasy hair and your rat face thing.
And then Harley just stares at him, and he goes,
he is so cute.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Little response.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Right as Harley is getting ready to hit Corey and responds,
mister turn Mister Turner walks out again with impeccable timing.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Runs.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
He's been looking out that window and running down I
don't know thirty six flights of stairs.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
He's been running half a mile to get there.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
He thanks Corey for protecting his bike. I saw from
my window that it looked like some clowns are about
to mess it up. The bullies a little intimidated walk away. Turner,
now angry, asks why Sean wants to hang out with
Harley and his thugs when he has a good friend
like Corey looking out for him, and Sean says, this
is where he belongs. Sean says he doesn't know who
he is, but Corey says he does. He read he

(56:51):
reads it in his biography. He wrote the entire biography
about him. Turner tells Sean deep down he's all right,
and Sean keeps asking Turner if he thinks he'll be
all right, referring to mister Turner. Turner says, if he
stays away from this Harley and that, then yes, Tony is.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
So good in this scene, which is drama, really witches
to drama perfectly and just yeah, And this is that
dynamic between Sewn and Turner, which I guess we're going
to see.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
A lot YEP. It's foreshadowing this relationship between the two
of you big time, and it is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Sean goes back inside and Corey asks Turner if he
really thinks Sean will be okay, and he says sure,
and then Tony flips a bat to sad music and.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
That isn't it. That's the beginning. That's the moment where
it's like every other episode of Boyme's World where you
would have had this situation would have probably resolved it.
But having Tony give that look back where it's like,
maybe Sean's not going to be all right is such
a nice touch and it's such a like, you know,
in a weird way. It reminded me of the like
I Miss Wendy when he looks at her socks at

(57:58):
the end of the Wendy episode. It's like the sort
of lingering like letting.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Jeff McCracken episode.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
By the way, oh interesting, playing the little beats.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I think it's it's like this sense that we don't
need a joke, these characters are going to continue to it.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
You're right, that's such a great point.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
And the last Jeff McCracken episode we also talked about
how Eric was starting to add lib a little bit
and jump over the walls and it was kind of
there was a freedom to it, and that same kind
of thing happened with you, Danielle, with ad libbing a
little bit in the scene and it's just yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, but writer, to your point, I actually love that
even the way it is in the dialogue, the fact
that the way he even says, you know, there's nothing
that's even the word sure sure isn't yeah sure feels
a little like maybe yeah, And so I loved that
that that it was very much like it could still

(58:51):
go either way. Yeah, And it's a lot of it's
up to you, and it depends on how badly you
want to change the trajectory of your life or can
you know it is it's it's so great. And then
we are in the tag in the ice skating rank,
Valerie asks why Eric didn't tell her he was such
a good ice skater, and Eric says he didn't think
she would believe him. She asks Eric to Chubby's, but

(59:12):
Eric says food has no power over him. And I thought,
this is such a great this is a great callback.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
It was it was fun. It was that the whole
storyline was absurd and fun and crazy. And by the way,
why did you run out of your room when you
woke up in the middle of night when you're going
to ice skate at midnight?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I just realized that now I'm.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Like the skating thing out of like trying to get
skating on the floor, like trying to get out of
the room.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
It makes a great beat.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
But of course not, no, no, of course not.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
So then when she says, well, would you like to
just watch me eat? You can order dessert, he says
it'll go right to his hips. He can't even save
food even though he's trying to. It's that darn weight
loss tape. Jason comes over and shoves a hot dog
in Eric's face, and Eric runs away, and then in
his absence, Jason sits next to Valerie and offers her
a hot dog and then tells her he taught Eric

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how to skate. Eric's face pops up from a closed
door and he does that little puffer fish face you
like on the door.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
I used to do that all the time, and Michael
remember puff puffer fish thing. I was like, all right,
I'll do that, and I'm the second the first take,
I just got up and ran out, and Michael, I think,
gave me there was like, could you flip off? So yeah,
I flipped off the gun. Ah and then he's like
and then the note he gave me I'll never forget
it was perfect. He goes, as he's coming at you
with the hot dog, I want you to be Frankenstein's

(01:00:30):
monster being chased by the villagers with the torches. It's like,
which is a great way to say it. So it was, Yeah,
that's that's we incorporate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's like a family with a cross right right. Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Eric appears to now be allergic to hot dogs or
food in general. Awhere, that's the end of our episode.
Uh really really a pivotal episode.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I think so, and a good episode.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
I thought that was a fun episode. Yeah I did too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I did too, I did too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Join us for our next recap, season two episode twenty
pop Quiz, which originally aired March tenth nineteen ninety five,
but most importantly next week, as will revealed, we are
talking to Nancy Caragan, so make sure you check that
episode out. Thank you guys for joining us. You can
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