TGI – Episode 515 “First Girlfriends’ Club” - Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
So I can't even say it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh no, I'm just gonna show you what.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
What, Oh old man in glasses, Well you can't.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Your glass eye stopped working.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
No, my reading eyes stopped working. And the first pair
that I ordered are in the other room, and she was.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Like, you can't. You can't wear those, You can't wear these.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
These are a real particular this is a real specific
choice of Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So if I take it off like this and I
start to talk like, it's all right, i'miony, no strong,
I can do that. But I was kind of going
Harry Potter.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
But the thing that's funny is I don't think I
need them, and then when I just put them on to.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Show you, you are both super clear. So maybe I do.
But I'm still not going to wear them.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
But yes, So we're getting to the age where I'm
needing implements to help me live my everyday life.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Who helped you with the style choice?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Nobody? Oh, nobody, Amazon, Amazon.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Did you literally type in Harry Potter glasses?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I just typed in glasses and the first ones I
got are these tiny little spectacles that I put on
the end of my nose, like Ben Franklin and she's like, please, please, don't, please,
don't do that. And so I ordered the next ones
and through.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
These Okay, this this exact same thing is happening to
Shiloh and he's freaking out the exact same way. And
we found these like cheap little kid glass like duct
tape to them and like a little loop around them
at our house. We're like, who's are these? They're like,
must have been one of Indy's friends. We're like, but Indie,
you know, we know which friends wear glasses. No one
wears glasses like this. I was like, these look like

(02:12):
a prop from like an eighties venture movie, like the
geeky kid glasses from Goodness.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, exactly it.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's basically it's it's Corey Feller, but it's like glasses,
but like with this little duct tape like rope attached
to him. But whose are And then Shiloh comes over
and he's like, oh you found my glasses?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, that makes sense. Okay, you can pull the loop.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
You need the loops so they don't pull off when
you're playing canasta.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's very do you.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Guys, Do you guys remember franchise from from Girl meets
World of course. Okay, So Frank wore glasses that I
clocked immediately and was like, when I need glasses, this
is what I'm getting. They they want a magnet in
the middle, and so you could put them on and
then you just take them apart and put them around
your It's so cool.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
I also, though, do want by the goals?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I want that then I have to lower down.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, I like writing and then I'll look up at
the TV reading or writing.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But the way you're acting prop it's a good business.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
You should I do that.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Well, I've noticed myself doing this when I'm thinking, I'll
be like this, it's good.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
What else you can do it?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
You can start massaging this part of Yeah, I've been
wearing the glasses all day.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
It hurts Daniel.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
You were you were saying some things as if you
don't appreciate the style that I've chosen for myself, almost
as if this isn't the look for me.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Am I wrong in that assessment that you've just come
up with.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'm on, I think you should go to shopping within
y'all for glasses that.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
We should know holy because then I'm going to have
zero point seventy five readers that cost me eleven hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I bought fourteen pairs for nine bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's the difference.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, looks like it. I can read. It's like if
John Lennon were a librarian exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's right when me started us.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I think, I think Sue is a great partner to
also go shopping with you.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You know, you don't, I don't know. Sue again goes
to the doctor at Costco, So I.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Think there's no way you got these at You.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Can go online and hold your phone up and'll put
the on your face.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You can do crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I've done that. You can do some virtual trials that
actually do with furniture now too. Have you seen that?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Like you buy a couch and you go to your
in the room and it like puts the couch in.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Your I sure have on Wayfair Absolutely there you best
thing ever.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
There's an amazing video you guys should both watch. It
was a It was a New York Times article I
want to say, like three or four years ago, all
about Meryl Street, who is just you know, living actor
of all time. But she she this essay broke down
how often she uses acting and it's so crazy you're like, wow,

(05:04):
I never noticed this. Once you've noticed it, you can
never see it. But it's really good. She actually does
it really well. I'm like, a kudos to Turgs. I never
noticed until this essay, but you should go check it
out because.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I remember reading that and thinking, wow, that's so cool.
It's like Brad Pitt with his easy eating.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, in this scene.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I just read something about that.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
In the scene where Brad Pitt is in it's I
think it's Oceans twelve or thirteen where he's got to eat. No,
it's the first one where he's eating the shrimp cocktail.
He refused to stop and ended up eating something like
forty shrimp and got horribly ill for the rest of
the day. So yeah, i'd be able to see it
perfectly now, though, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
We can't see her eyes at all, though I know
I never come off.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, it's okay, we just won't tell when he's sleeping exactly.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm Righter Strong,
and I'm wilfredell.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So jumping into our recap today, we are recapping season five,
episode fifteen, First Girlfriend's Club. It originally aired February thirteenth,
nineteen ninety eight, so it was the day before Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Rose Valentine's Day, yep ye the synopsis.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
On Valentine's Day, a trio of ex girlfriends kidnapped Sean
to keep him from hurting Angela. Meanwhile, Corey must face
the music when Tapanga reads Lauren's letter. It was directed
by Alan Myerson, The story is by Mark Blutman and
Howard Buskang, and the teleplay was by Patricia Carr and
Laura Ruynolds.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Laura writing, like a ton of this season.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yep, absolutely want to talk about our overall thoughts before
I jump into our fantastic trio of major returns.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's a strange episode.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't know what I thought about this episode.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
I'll be honest. I honestly I even said that I
watched it twice. I woke up this morning and I
said to Sushik, you can do and you run.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I was like, yeah, Sid, what do you think? I
was like, I honestly don't know. No, Trino was great.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
This was Trina's best episode so far. I agree, she
was really good. It was just weird.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what to think about it.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I don't, I don't. I literally feel exactly the same way.
I can't believe that we're all like on a fence
writing feeling about this episode. I really loved, like you said,
I thought Trina was spectacular, and I loved that it
actually really felt like Trina and Tapega, So Angela and
to Pinga actually had a friendship and that truthfully, Angela's

(07:33):
personality came alive with Tapega.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
She had a character. Yes, yes, yeah, it was like
the complete they wrote a finally like a character. You know. Yes,
I think it was a little at odds with the
Sean and angel Like the Angela we had already kind
of established, like I actually we hadn't established much, and
that's kind of point. But you know, she was like
in those in that first episode where we actually got together,

(07:58):
you know, and I Trina talked about this, she was
kind of soft spoken and like kind of sweet and
like the idea that she's into Vivaldi and like, you know, poetry,
whereas like this Angela is much more like kind of
she's tough. She if she makes she takes.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, Like and I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Okay, well this feels more right, like this is a
character you know, but agreed, but otherwise, yeah, this episode.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I also am now at a point with the Sean
and Angela storyline where I'm like, pick A Lane, do
you want to be Corey in Topanga or do you
not want to be Corey in Topanga?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Why do we have to keep going back and forth?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I don't understand, like.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
That is bothering me now, Like, on the one hand,
you're like, you know, in the last episode when Tapega
says a falcon because you always come home to me,
Angela looks at Sean and says, you know, kill me
if I ever get like that, and you say, oh,
I'd have to. And then in this episode you're like,
I've never wanted anything else but to have a love
like Corey and Topanga, and so I want to be
friends with you in order to replicate what they have.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's just weird.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And then.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, it's I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's an episode.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's an episode that operates on this like kind of
esoteric realm of ideas, you know, and it's just and
I feel like Boy Meets World is slipping more and
more into that, which I don't love because it's all
very abstract. It's characters talking about their feelings and these
like abstract, idealized way. Like it's just very esoteric. I

(09:28):
just don't like it's hard to wrap your head. And
then like, what's interesting about that is that it's actually
a very like externalized plot, Like I mean, it's kidnapped,
and you.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Care in what realm would this ever happen?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Right, But it's also there's there's a there we are
now officially to the point of and we've we had
inklings of it before, but now it's every character where
all love has to be true love, and if you
do anything that's not true love, you're somehow going against
love itself. Right at fifteen, how dare you only date
and kiss someone for two weeks?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I really liked you, Sean. We're supposed to have been together forever,
he said.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It was like we dated and then we were no
longer dating.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yes, oh exactly. We had some sort of relationship in it.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And then it's.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's this uneasy like relationship between On one hand, these
girls are supposed to be psychopaths, right, Like that's kind
of the point of the story, but then they also
end up having a good point that everybody like takes
and it's like, well, can we talk about the psychopathic behavior?
Like It's like, you can't have both, you know what
I mean. It's like, yeah, either this is a story
about three crazy ex'es doing something crazy, or it's a

(10:42):
story about Sean needing this good lesson that he learned
from his three psychopathic ays.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like it's just hard, which really you ended up learning
from Corey into Panga because Corey makes the point that
if you've if you've been together with somebody long enough,
at some point you're going to disappoint them, which is
why you don't have to be perfect to be in
a relationship, but you have to be able to forgive
because we're all going to at some point disappoint another person,

(11:10):
even if we try our hardest to be the best
possible us we can be, someone will eventually feel disappointed
by something you do, and then in order to make
it work, you have to be able to forgive and
move on. So you really ultimately ended up learning that
from Corey into Penga.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
But but did you the.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Only person I think has any leg to stand on
with a pov in this is Dana Pruet Larissa Olainek,
because you guys actually established kind of a real girlfriend
boyfriend relationship, right and you promise and then it just
fizzled out and disappeared and we don't know what happened
with that. The other girl you made out with once
at a party where already attacked you and set you

(11:47):
up for that, and the other one having that out
broken up with you and didn't want to be with
you because of Corey.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's like, so, but she's actually the only one that
is justified in being this psychopathic And I think that
is a funny plot idea. But yes, the idea to
make all three girls sort of in cahoots for this
storyline is a little weird and like it doesn't make
it just needed more time. It needed like an another rewrite,
and I don't know like something first of all, that

(12:15):
they're how.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
From a writing standpoint, you come off the episode we
just had and Corey and Topanga and what they're going
through are not the A story is ridiculous. That's the
story you want to see. So if the B story
is then this one crazy girl. Christianna Logan's character hijacks
you and maybe some of the ex girlfriends get together

(12:37):
to help rescue you because hey, Sean and Sean, he
did a bad thing. And then they well, wait a minute,
you're right, Sean, you did that to me too, So
it's not the three of them kidnapped you.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
One of them did.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
And then it leads to an interesting conversation, but that
should be a B story next to what we want
to see, which is Tapanga has the damn letter.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's where I mean.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
And then they open with that, so I was like, okay, great,
we're really going to get into this and this, and
then it was like, oh, that just kind of pushed
to the side. And then Tipanga comes in as a
special guest at the end to say, I don't it
was weird.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
It was weird.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It was a weird story.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
But hey, it did end with Sean and Jack dating
high school girls, So all right, girl, so there.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You go, there you go.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
At least we have that, at least we have that
redeeming quality quality going of them dating girls in high school.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Guest starring Christianna Logan.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is back as Jennifer Bassett, her second appearance, both a
child star and a terminator, and then we have Larissa Olenex.
She returns as Dana Pruett. Larissa, a childhood friend of writers,
as you all know, is the coolest and I loved
her in this episode. I thought she was so great,
especially the ending, that little joke at the end where
she says she isn't having friends great and she gets

(13:51):
shot down by Christana Logan.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Again, they were all good. It was just weird.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I feel like Larissa was hung out to dry. I
feel like and apprude. It's just like, who are you?
What are you know? I mean like Laris is a
great actress, but I feel like she was uncomfortable. She's like,
what am I doing?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah? No, I can totally see how she could be
uncomfortable here and uncomfortable with the storyline. But I did
think she was good with what I mean, you know,
having to accept this whole premise.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
She was great and I loved that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I loved her little joke at the end where she
seemed like she had just been bitten, had her head
bitten off by a terminator, which she did. And then
Lindsey McKee in his back as Libby Harper. But please
don't ask her anything about boy meets World. It will
not end well.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
But if you like Stevie Nicks, then she she's your gal.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Then ask her about boy mets World.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now, writer, dude, what do you remember specifically about the
three of them coming back?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Not much, honestly, do you remember.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Any conversation with Larissa about this being awkward or weird?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
No, you know, if anything, I you know, I got
along with all of them, and so I I didn't
remember the details of this episode at all, Like I
remember thinking probably even at the time that it was
it was strange, you know, And so no, if anything,
I have positive memories of all three of them, So
it was probably just fun to hang out with them.
But watching it back, I was like, what is going on?

(15:16):
And like I feel a little lost, like I, you know,
and I guess I kind of can be Sean's just
kind of reacting to what's happening around him for so
much of this episode, but also like I kind of missed,
like there was this moment when when I got handcuffed
to the thing where I was like wanted it to
be like the Witch episode, where like maybe Sean's like,
whoo cool, let's have a part, you know, Like I

(15:39):
was like where's that Sean, you know, like why am
I so serious suddenly? And like I don't know it?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Just yeah, what year was this? Was this ninety eight?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Ninety eight?

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, okay, so First Wives Club was really big and
that was ninety six. First Wives Club was the Goldie
Hawn movie about the all the three first wives getting
revenge on their ex husband's gotcha moved on with second one?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Okay, so this is yes, that would be my guest.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
But it's like a year and a half later, so right, right.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well it's only February of ninety eight, so this would
have been a shooting at the end of ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, so like a year a year lady all right
with development and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
That and all those boy bees world fans who loved
First Wives Club.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
To go to the First Wives Club.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah yeah, well if you were if you were fifteen, Goldie.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Was even a better favorite.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Diane Keaton.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
I mean, if you're a fourteen year old girl, you're like,
I'm a Diane Keaton fan.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So jumping into our recap, we are in John Adams
High The school is decked out in Valentine's Day decor.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
We have got quite a budget for school holidays.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Angela and Topanga walk out of Phoene's class together and
Angela asks, what's with you? Phoenie asked twenty questions and
you only answered twelve to Pega pulls out the letter
that fell out of Corey's bag at the ski lodge.
She thinks it's from Lauren. Angela's in shock Talk all night, Lauren,
that girl should have a radio show.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
What more could she have to say?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
And this is right off the bat where I was like,
I love this Angela.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
She's a person.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
She's a person, she's funny.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
She Panga.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
The actual dialogue is written different. It's differently, you know,
like it's written for her voice, and it's like, oh, okay,
this is a character now.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, it's really good. Topanga hasn't read it.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Angela snatches it from her and doesn't believe her, but
it's true. Topanga didn't read it. She thought it wouldn't
be right. Angela wonders, and stealing your boyfriend is? Topanga
reminds her all they did was talk and I am
continuing this season to be very impressed with Topanga's level headedness.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like all this in In.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Response to this teenage Danielle would have ripped that letter
open immediately, yeah, up out of the fake snow and
finger in let her out, would have read it.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I don't think I ever would have.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I would have been like, what is this girly riding
on the front. So the fact that Topanga continues, at
least in this season, we've certainly seen her have her
moments of irrational behavior, But in this season so far,
I feel like she's so adult, so an adult in
a relationship, and I'm impressed.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't know, and it's very common.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I will I will say that I don't know how
realistic it is, but it's impressive. Angela is an utter disbelief.
She calls Topanga the saint of the deep deep denial
to Panga insists it's trust. Angela takes matters into her
own hands and rips open the envelope, pretending it was
an accident. Tapanga tries to stop her. She doesn't want
anything to change her relationship with Corey. Angela is too

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focused on reading the letter to care. Tapanga tells her
she wants to burn it, and Angela admits, you don't
have to burn it. This thing's already smoking. To Panga
is now jumping for the letter, desperately trying to reach it,
and I thought, of you will when we were talking
about me doing more physical comedy. Yeah, like a couple
episodes later, they were like, let's have Danielle jump.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Around and because you're good at it, so yeah, right
to it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Angela successfully avoids her attempts. I'm trying to protect you,
you short little white girl, which got a real laugh
for me. Very cute to Panga size. You're right, I
don't want to read that letter. But right when Angela
puts her guard down to Pega snatches the letter. And
this is where I noticed the school's vending machine, which
appears to be from nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Just zag nuts and bottle caps.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Just the oldest vending machine. It's like maybe the first
vending machine that's ever.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It was, and they still actually use cocaine.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
It looks like it has cigarettes in it, exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I just want some pall malls and some zag nuts.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Great as what.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Is zagnat zag nutt is a it's a candy bar
from like the seventies.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, that nut?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Also, why open the letter like a raccoon? Like, why
not at least make it to her. If you want
to seal it up again, you can.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
It was like no going back at the top, and then.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
No going back after that.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's like shredded into She's done it.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh man y Tavenga sits down on the couch to read.
She's only a few seconds in when she met hers.
Oh no, right then Sewn and Corey come waltzing through
the hall. Sean says he always feels depressed around Valentine's Day,
but Corey doesn't understand.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
He has a girlfriend. Now it'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Sewan explains, this isn't like Christmas, where he has the
whole month to remember. It sneaks up on him out
of nowhere. Last year, the mail man just gave him
a Valentine. Corey asks who it was from, and Sean
says it was from the mailman, and of course he
didn't get him anything in return, and he can't even
tell him it's in the mail.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's so good, just so.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Fun, I love Sean. Yeah, yeah, it's so much responsibility.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Sean admits it's the first Valentine's Day that ever that
has ever meant anything to him, and he's afraid he's
going to screw it up.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Corey says he'll help him.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Here comes Corey with the theme we've seen before, bad
advice on how to treat your lady for your long
term relationship. He's a Valentine's Day veteran. He even marches
in the parade. Sean asks him what he and to
Panga were doing the perfect romantic evening. Corey proudly nods, yes,
we have dinner at Chubby's every Valentine's Day. Me and

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to Panga try to recreate our first date so we
remember how much we love each other.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, what we just did this episode, we know four
episodes ago. I can't understand.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So Sean wouldn't know that they do that every year.
If that's what they had done, and our first date
was now with Chubbys.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
When you were three or however hell old you were
at this point, at least we have some continuity with
your own story.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's like, my god, do you think is there a
part of the right?

Speaker 5 (22:06):
This is how I go And I'm hoping because if
it's true, it's a beautifully crafted joke, which is that
it's the joke is that it changes every time.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
But I don't think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, because they did that joke, you know, when he's like,
this is a she when Tepeg was like, I don't
even remember what this is the anniversary of. Right, it's
the universary the first time we went to that restaurant
or whatever. Right, it would be funny if, yes, in
this episode, if Tepeg had been like, I don't even
know which which first date were celebrated, that's all I
would have taken. And then he's like, this is the
first Valentine's Day there, and he has a whole set

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of rituals that are complicated and full of expectations that
would be hysterical. But they didn't lean into that joke.
They didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
So they just say this as if this is.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
The given, and I'm like, I'm so confused. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Sean compares it to renewing their vows. Corey agrees, which
is especially important to do in your teen years.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
So at least they may.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Joe right, right, you're an old married people.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I was so happy to see them at least acknowledge
that these storylines lay better if you are an adult marriage.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Exactly right, write it just write two fifty year olds
in a marriage and make them high school students.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's funny. But then stick with that.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yep, I know it's Yeah, it's weird. They begin to
walk and talk. If you want a perfect relationship, just
do what Topanga and I do. On cue, Topanga cross
checks him into a locker. Good, I want to Yeah,
I want to talk to you. And then there's a
lot of very fun background after reactions here, including our
Scream episode.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Sean, who is.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Very well feature bracketed in feature during this episode, you
saw him several times.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes, Sean remembers Corey said to follow his lead, and
he then slams Angela against the lockers. I want to
talk to you.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Okay, So I thought this happened in the Starry Night episode,
Oh because because I remember me slamming Trina up against
a wall being like a tricky thing because she was pregnant.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
She's pregnant, right, But I.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Did it in this episode too.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know how many times do you possibly slam this
pregnant woman against a wall?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a choice. No, it's
written to the script like that's the thing. But I
remember it being like a oh, like he was during
the Starry Night episode. It's like the tag is like
me throwing her up against a wall in the museum
or whatever. And I remember the whole crew being.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
And Trina was fine, but like she and I were like,
is this okay? It was like a constant and then
we had already done it here.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
It's a It's a decent sized slam too. I mean
it's I mean it.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Makes a lot of noise because so it just requires
a tiny bit of impact for.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Her hands a little more, but still, I.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Mean your I will say that what you do to
Angela is soft compared to the full body check I
give Corey, yeah, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
You put your shoulder.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I was laid. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, yeah, efinitely.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
We're in the eye formation and Corey's up against the locker.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So nearby, Topanga is holding the letter from Lauren. How
long was he going to wait to tell her about it?
Corey stutters, uh, and now I was going to tell
you about it now to Panga, serious, I have never
had to wonder if you were telling me the truth.
You kissed her, and you lied to me about it.
I don't know how We're going to work that out, Corey.
She gives the letter to Corey and walks away with Angela.
Corey begins to read the letter and mutters oh no,

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with sad music, taking us into a tense commercial break.
And I was very in that moment. I was very
much reminded of the the time we first met Libby
Harper where Corey is kissed by Missy Robinson.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, and I because I.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Of course, was like, well you have he has cheated
on you before, so I was trying to find a
flaw with the logic there. But really in that episode,
he did exactly what he should have done in this
episode told me he had the opportunity in the Missy
Robinson episode which Penga runs into him and Chubby's and
he's getting her the ice cream, he has the opportunity

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where Tapega would never have known it happened, and he
makes the choice to tell her, and then I say
something like okay, well thanks for telling me the truth,
and then I soorcel him with a kiss to get
him sick.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
But like that is then I kind of think about what.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I said in the last episode where I was like,
I think if he told her the truth that he
had kissed her to Penga would have broken up with them.
And I think the only difference between when we saw
this with the Missy Robinson episode and we saw it
here is that, well, for one thing, he lied, and
the other thing that Topanga wouldn't have necessarily known, although
she could infer it from the fact that he lied,

(26:46):
was that the Missy Robinson he was not emotionally connected
to her. He felt trapped and she wanted to make out,
and he was like thirteen. They were thirteen, but they
were in a committed relationship, and the boy was world,
you were married. They were in a very committed relationship.
He had asked permission to go to the party. She
was sick at home. He felt bad, he knew he
shouldn't really go. He went anyway. The only real difference

(27:10):
two things. He lied in this one, and he lied
because he was emotionally invested in Lauren and he was
not in the first one.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
It doesn't it seem like being in a relationship, by
the logic of Boyby's world, means being miserable, Like yes,
is there any joy in like do Qureyan Tapanga or
even Sean and Angela ever have just joy together that
we see. I mean, I know it's hard because the
point of story is that it's contact, but it does
seem like the cumulative effect of all these episodes is

(27:44):
that you get into a relationship because it makes you
morally superior, and you stick to it despite all the
whole joy. If you were not in this relationship, you
could be so much sex and making out with so
many people if you just gave in and stop trying to.
But it's a bet you're a better person to stick

(28:05):
with love no matter what. And that's just like it's intense,
and it's like I just I just I feel this,
Like why why is Sean so tortured? Why is Core
and why is everybody so tortured? Just don't be in
a relationship.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But that's the thing is there doesn't in this world.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
There's no differentiation between love and a relationship. There's plenty
of people madly in love that should not be together.
Right It just Hey, I love you, This is toxic.
It doesn't work. So I think here they it's like, well,
we're in love, so we're going to suffer together. However
makes us work? And that's just obviously not the way

(28:41):
it goes. I have another question from from a legal standpoint, okay, okay,
calling yes. So in the in the Boy Meets World
World and the relationship they're in, how much of Corey
lying to Topanga is mitigated by the fact that it
was Sean's idea to do it and talked him into

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doing it.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
MM is responsibility exactly, horrible advice all the time, of course, but.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
In the real world, of course, in The Boy Meets
World World, how much of Sean.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Told me to do it I wanted to tell you
the truth right away?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
And how much of that mitigates Corey's responsibility.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Don't I don't think it any in this I don't
think he would share it. You know. It was Sean's idea,
and I should never have gone with it.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I think that's like, but no, I would.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Have opened up a whole can of worms. WHI Chipanga
would turn on Sean, you know, and instead but.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
She but Sean tells openly Angela, Oh, it was the
best I could come up with at the time.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
And she's like, would you lie to me?

Speaker 5 (29:43):
And You're like no, and she's like, you answered that fast,
then walks away and it's never addressed again. Right, and
it was kind of like, that's weird not to bring
that up again. It's like the start of kind of
an important conversation in your relationship. Yeah, so yeah, that
was kind of I was just curious, how as I
agree it's it's completely on Corey, but in the Boy
meets World world they're an entity, and one of them said,

(30:05):
don't do this, don't do this, don't do now.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
If we're going to talk legally, legally, uh, these three
girls need to be charged with if we're talking about
a legal response, Yes, this is crazy. Lord a guy
to a boat house and tied him or handcuffed him, that.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
They impersonated another person.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
No responsibility at this point, you just say, get call
the police, arrest these three girls, and Sean go, dude, like,
this is a problem and the parents need to be
notified because this is like many many that happen. Even
if Sewan decides not to bring charges, like, they need
to know the severity of the Yeah, this is this
is not reflecting love, just breaking and entering.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Guessing none of them owned the boathouse to be there
any places.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Just have a boat house that everyone knows where it is.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
In all fairs, it was just the wilderness store with
the stuff tipped on the side. It's just the empty wilderness.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
So then we're in John Adams High continuing. Corey is
slumped on the floor in the hallway while Sean reads
the letter. How could you let to Penga read this?
Cory sarcastically says he let her read it on the
bus ride home because he was bored and wanted to
destroy the relationship. But actually he thought he lost it.
Sean reminds him, Hey, don't jump on me. I'm not
the one who kissed you, Corey bark's back. No, but
you are the one who told me to lie about

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the kiss in the first place.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Sean says it was the best he could think of
at that time.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I don't see where lying is the issue, and tell
the gym coach I have malaria, Corey. Here's a group
of girls, all former flings of Sean from past seasons,
talking about the letter. I heard Corey Matthews met some
mountain girl on the senior ski trip and to Pega
found out. Corey stops dead iness tracks and addresses Jennifer
Akaa the very tall Christana Logan.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, well, I hear you're really a guy. She hovers
over it.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And asks in a deep voice, So, which was funny?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Another ahead of its time joke?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeap it is? He scurries away.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
That's what I thought. We stay with the past girlfriends,
and Libby says, Corey into Panga our history. I told
you that wasn't going to work out. Dana adds, you
said that twelve years ago. And here comes Angela down
the hall. Dana decides to ask her why did Corey
lie about the kiss and the letter? Angela is shocked.
How do you possibly know about this? The girl reveals
the school newspaper. The front page reads Corey into Panga

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split with a cute little picture of us two.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Jennifer breaks in.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Is this supposed to be later than when they just
had the fight and she found the letter? I mean,
I'm just curious, aready?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I think it's a little late. Okay, next period they
went broke exactly?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Jennifer breaks the news. All men are dogs. Angela is offended.
Not all men, what she's a Not all men? Come on,
it's nice, it's nice. It feels like that feels more
like Corey, not Azela. But so Libby laughs, Oh, come on,
you got Kujo. Angela insists that Sean's not a dog,

(33:14):
he's a nice guy. Dana Pipe's in Yeah, I thought
so too. He made a picnic for me in the
snow and told me how special I was. We even
made plans for this Valentine's Day. Wait a minute from
season three? Season three, or are we supposed to infer
that there were dates we didn't see leading up to

(33:35):
you getting into the relationship with Angela?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think so, Well, for years, So you've been with
Dana for two years.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Off and on, off and on while he was having
his two week rule.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Maybe Dana got another two weeks, because otherwise it makes
no sense that it's a.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Lot of this, a lot of that. The timing in
this episode was a little suspect.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, I'm going to say there were occasional dates with
all three of these women in the time, eating up
to Angela, because probably.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Not Christiana Logan. I think they set that up where
she's still Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But it's all a sign of the fact that, like,
you know, the the tail not shown problem, which is
that we were always told that Sean is like the
ladies man date, but we've actually only seen him date,
really date three characters, and one of them is Libby,
who what like, but that's the thing we didn't have,

(34:26):
Like the Jennifer is really the only Jennifer and Larissa
really had, you know, arcs or moments on the show.
But but but we're implying that, yes, Sehn is Kujo,
he's a dog, and it's like, but we actually haven't
seen that. And he's pretty straightforward. But he just wants
to make out with a lot of girls, and he's
honest with all of them, so like, yeah, they all knew.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I mean, it's like they go in and going it's
the two week rule. I mean, there was a name
for it. So yeah, he's not lying to them.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I mean, and it's probably not the best behavior in
the world, but he's not certainly not lying to them
about it.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
No, And I don't know why it had to be
that you made plans with all three of these women
for this Valentine's Day as opposed to just the Valentine's
Day when you were dating. Oh yeah, he told me
the same thing about Valentine's Day. Are Valentine's Day?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
He did this?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh yeah, well my Valentine's Day, like Why does it
have to be for this one?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Just yeah, that's what it should have been about.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Is Valentine's Day represents a real relationship to Sean, and
it's when he bails. Yeah, and so you know, the
fact that he really wants to go through it with
Angela shows how committed he is to her.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
It's super easy to do.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I don't know they made it all for.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
This Valentine's Day. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Libby joins in, he made plans with you this Valentine's Day.
He made plans with.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Me and he said I was his girlfriend, which lasted
about a week. Jennifer puts the cherry on top. Oh,
I got two weeks, but he gave me a cold.
They ask Angela. Sean told her the same things. Angela
shrugs them off. We're going to dinner in a movie,
nothing fancy, no big deal. They tell her he's going
to back out. Oh, of course twice. The van damage
knows how important the day is and it's just too

(36:01):
much for him. He doesn't know how to be a boyfriend.
Jennifer thinks he should pay then to Pang. The storms
down the hallway, followed closely by two students with notepads
and a camera.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
I said, no comment, you little Jimmy Olsen freak. She
grabs the camera.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Remember that the female extra? Who's who's the reporter chasing
me down?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
She was in I forget all the time. She used
to always tell me.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
She's like, people mistake me for your girlfriend because everyone
thought she looked like love love right, totally, Yes, she
would know. She was very sweet. She was so soft
all the time.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I can't remember her name. Yeah, the second I saw
her face, I was like, oh, it filled me with
such warmth. I was like, I remember her. She track
her down.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, that's a good idea. No pictures. The ex girlfriends
feel bad for her. Dana mentions that whenever she's ready,
her brother's face is really clearing up.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Danielle, did you when you shot the scene this would
be a this would be a hard but long pull memory.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
But did you know who Jimmy Olsen was?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
As you were saying, I don't know who Jimmy Olsen is?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now, wow, do you really not know? Jimmy Olsen is?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Not a clue.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Jimmy Olsen is the photographer and reporter that is Clark
Kent's right hand man.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Superman Oh no, I did not know this is a
cub reporter.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, okay, I didn't know it then. I don't know
it now, well you.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Do know it now.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Superman is a hero, is a superhero? Another planet is.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
A technical and what is like will.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Because he does well Clark pretend to be a human, Yes,
exactly what what what's his his super what's his his
Kryptonian name?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Writer?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Kel El daniel whoa you are also from crypton? Your
dan Danielle Danel? Yeah you got Kelda.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
That's the father. Okay, Yeah, what's justice for Jimmy?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh god?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Who is his mom?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Now you're gonna people kill me?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't remember I'm Superman too, and they had to
like adjust it. So it's his mom giving him all
the advice to remember. Remember it was like, yeah, I'll
do the movie and if you give me another two
million dollars zero.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, oh, how do you know? You know kal l
but you don't know Jimmy Olsen. That's something strange. Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Angela calls the girls vultures and Topanga tells them what's
going on between me and Corey?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Is going on between me and Corey? Okay?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
The student with the notepad vigorously writes this down to
Banga Yel's that's not a quote, Ira. She walks off,
and the two journalists continue to follow her worth noting.
Ira is played by Buzz McIntyre, an uncredited background actor
who has very little credits but was a background voice
in two thousand and eight's Metal Gear Solid four.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Really what yes is some deep cuts?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Jensen research and love.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Jensen loves nothing more than to stay up till two
in the.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Morning and research stuff background actors.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I might have.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Been in that.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Wow, I think I did.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
A Metal Gear I can I don't know, I think
I did anyway.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Angela tells the group of girls that she appreciates their concern,
but she knows Sean better than all of them, and
she trusts him. She walks off, and Jennifer mutters under
her breath she thinks she knows him. Huh. Nearby, Angela
walks up to Sean, who is making a coffee like
they're in an insurance office. He admits he can't believe
what's going on between Corey and Tapanga. Angela agrees, whose

(39:21):
idea was it to lie to her?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
I literally said, like just a couple weeks ago. We
need vending machines and a coffee machine in that Eric,
how they put a bunch of stuff. Now you've got
things to do. Get coffee in your lucky stripes, because
you know that they must have felt the same thing.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
We have something.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why are we all just hanging out of this couch
in this hallway right.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
At this dead end? So Sean reveals, well, it was
the best idea I could think of at the time.
Angela's rightfully taken aback and Sean insists he was only
trying to protect Corey. She asks if Sean would ever
lie to her, and he immediately says no. She's suspicious
he said that a little fast. Shawna sures her he
would never lie to her. Angela asks if they're still
on for tonight. Sean enthusiastically responds, yeah. In fact, I'm

(40:06):
going to take you someplace nice and I'm going to
surprise you with candy and flowers. She explains she doesn't
care about the candy and flowers as much as just
them being together. Sean leans in and they give each
other a passionate kiss. The ex girlfriends watch that all
go down. She's buying it. Dana wishes there was a
way to show Angela what Shawn's really like before she
gets hurt. Jennifer has an idea. I think Sean Hunter

(40:29):
is finally going to keep a date for Valentine's.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
If we tie them to the train tracks before the
locomotive comes.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
And then we're in the guy's apartment. Jack's complaining about
Valentine's Day to Eric. It's a big scam greeting card
company's candy stores. They're all ripping off the innocent customer.
Eric asks, no dat, huh. Jack whimpers, I'm so only.
Eric encourages him. You rejoice in your solitude and kiss
it on the lips. Jack doesn't understand. Eric continues having
a date on Valentine's Day is like having an IOU

(41:10):
for the rest of your life. Jack agrees, women take
this day too seriously. Eric adds, today is the one
day women turn their men into love puppets. Just then,
Sean walks out of his room with a big smile
on his face, holding a heart box of chocolates. Jack sneers,
got a hot date there, Pinocchio. Sean gives a nerve
a shrug, I got her candy. Eric disapproves, give her instead.

(41:31):
She'll appreciate the cash and maybe she'll buy you something nice.
He breaks open the box and eats a chocolate.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Is this new good?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
That's good?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Back the.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Eat some business, do some business as.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Time, any kind of zesty drink tap the not doing.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's horrible, so good.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
But Jack is impressed. So my little brother likes somebody
enough to go on a Valentine's Day date. Huh, Sean admits,
usually I find a reason not to show up, but
I think I'm going to make it to this one.
Just then there's a knock at the door. Eric Yell's love.
We got love, And I was like, is he looking
for love? Hughe?

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Who?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'm clear again? Now the necklace is on full display.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
What are you carrying a vial of her blood?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Or oh no, it's even worse. It's it looks like
a little coke spoon.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh oh right, she wore.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
One and I wore one, And so it was like, oh, okay,
I'm fully and my hair is going out.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
There, my hair, your hair's going very long quickly.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
It was like we took a break in between shooting.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Because you weren't in the last week.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
In that week, your hair yeah, your hair grew three
inches that week?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Neutraful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
When Love comes on in the screen episode, do we
also see Love's spoon?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm guessing, I mean, I get.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I'm probably Yeah. Do your spoons make out with each other?

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
They would connect magnetically, Yes, incorrigibility.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It worked well.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Jack asks Sean does she feel the same way about you?
But before he can answer, they see that no one
is at the door. Sean looks down and sees a
bouquet of flowers. Jack answers his own question, Yeah, I
guess she does. Sean reads the note attached, I can't
stop thinking about you. Here's to our night of romance.
Meet me at the boathouse, Love Angela.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
That's a youthful mism for a vanouse.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
He turns to the boys, excuse me, but I have
a date that I want to keep, And as he.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Leaves, don't you think Sean should be slightly responsible?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like he's such an innocent victim.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
He gets a love rendezvous note and goes and then
still learns a lesson like he is literally like a
completely innocent victim of like, oh doing this plot by
three x's And yet at the end of the episode,
he's learning something and like having this revelation. I know,
I feel like it should be a little bit like,

(44:12):
you know, this note is from somebody else, or like
just just a hint of like Sean saying, I'll meet
Angela later, but I need to go do this other thing,
or maybe he's tempted in some way, because as it is,
Sean's completely innocent, Like there's no reason Sean should feel
bad about anything. Nope, at this point now, like the
whole epit and yet I have this big like breakdown
by the end where I'm like, you know, passionately telling

(44:35):
Angela what I want and how I'm going to change,
And it's like, but but Sean, you're doing everything right, Like.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I don't know you also did change.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
We've done this already, you say throughout the episode in
the boat House, I wasn't lying to you at the time.
I did feel for you, Dana Pruitt. I liked you.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
You are a little scary, but you all say'd be
one thing if you were like you At the end,
I kissed you like I loved you to Libby Harper,
which did you though?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I mean, at this part, what.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
If that were the case that you said these women
are never going to let me make out with them
unless I lie and say I'm gonna lie to get
what I want. If that had been the case, then
I could totally see even though their psycho and a
kidnapping plot, you saying you're right, I lied to you.

(45:32):
I have been a sham my entire life, and I
promise Angela, I'm not doing that now.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
I'm different, but you're different.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
They even have Dana say, you said to me you
you really loved me, but you didn't love me that way.
So they had a conversation where he broke up with
her and said, look, I just don't feel it.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I like you, but I don't love you like you.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I mean, my god.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
It's like he literally talks to her about howationship isn't
going anywhere. So, yeah, I don't see how they they
made Sean a dog at all. They made him somebody
who likes girls, who makes out with a lot of women. Okay, sure,
but if he's honest with all of them about it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Then what the hell is the problem?

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Exactly, And they're forcing a situation for him to hurt
Angela to then learn from her, and it's like, hold on,
I didn't hurt Angela like I'm in a situation, so
it's it's yeah, it's like they're trying to have their
cake and eat it too. As far as Shawn's character,
and it's very common make Shawn a dog like, just
make him, make him almost cheat on her or lie
to her in this moment, and then there's some responsibility there.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
But he could have lied to Angela right off the
bat about something, even something as small as why why
would he lied to to Panga?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I don't know, I don't know that idea.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Something like that. That would have been easy.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And then it's like she finds out no sho and
then she goes to Corey, and Corey says, Shan's the
one who told me to not tell her about the kiss.
And then she could be like, Sean did lie to me,
that's weird, and then yes, super easer.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
But no, he was instantly like, yeah, I'm not one
to told him to do.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I mean, he's been honest with everybody.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
So as Sean leaves, Jack asks next Valentine's Day, Eric
nods dates. Definitely dates, and then we're at the boat
house new set alert or perhaps it's the wilderness.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, I love too.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
How they have to do things to make it seem
like It's like, A why does the boat house need
a dartboard? And B why is the dart board seventeen
feet off the ground and there's a.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Dark board up by the ceiling, Like what? Why? Who's
doing this? It was very strangely decorated this place.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
It's it's a giant's boathouse.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Who comes to you?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
My god?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
So then Sean bursts through the door, Angela, you're Valentine's here.
There's no response, so he hangs his coat and looks around.
Women can't be on time for their own romantic rondevoue.
Women probably doing her makeup.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I'm at the boathouse zone time.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
But Jennifer appears.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Men don't know a trap set by their ex girlfriends
when they walk right and do it.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, I would Why that.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Wasn't on This was not on my bingo guard. You're right,
this took me by surprise.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yes, Seawan is shocked. Jennifer, What are you doing here?
She smiles, Just keeping our dates for Valentine's Day? Remember?
Then Dana pops up and proceeds to handcuff Shan to
a poll Shawn's impressed. Wow, your tastes have changed since
our last date when we went skating, which.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Can I wish we'd done a little bit more of
this this is Sean had been like, what do we doing?

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Game?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
That actually makes more sense for this character?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, totally.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Dana admits a lot of things have changed, but not you,
even though Angela thinks you have. Finally, Libby reveals herself
with some duct tape. Maybe how you doing? What's the
tape for? I wonder? She explains, this is the one
time you're sweet talking isn't going to get you out
of anything. They're not going to let him hurt Angela.
Sean asks, why would I hurt Angela?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You guys are hurting Angela by not.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Letting me go.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Why are you doing this?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
And what is the plan? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
This is exactly. This is where first of all, it
gets very serious. And what happens if no one shows up?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I don't know. Were they just going to leave Sean
here all night? And then like you, well, it's this trial, right,
that's what we're putting you on trial for.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Your relationship is guilty, right?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
If you learn your lesson what happens you have to
break up with Angela.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Maybe maybe the whole point is you're going to realize
you're a jerk and you're a liar and you don't
actually care about her, and and we're going to force
you to come clean and then we're gonna throw your
body in the river.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Is like, wait, what?

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I don't really know. I don't know either. So Jennifer smirks, Oh,
you'll have your time to speak. Sean Libby places some
tape on his mouth, apparently apparently barely tape. It's already been.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, no, there's this.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
This is easy tape to live you liquid, and it's
gone TV show tape.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
This is a TV show tape.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, Jennifer smirks, Oh, I heard a mine that. Now
you're in our court. Let the Trial of Sean Hunter begin.
Dana smiles and eats a chocolate from Angela's gift Happy
Valentine's Day. Sean stands helplessly in the middle of the room.
And this is basically the movie saw. So yeah, yeah,
just see what happens now.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Could it have been better if they say, let the
Trial of Seawan Hunter begins begin. The front door opens
and another ten girls walk in right, you know, and
it's like then you cut to them giving testimony of
what Sewan has done while he's taped.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
There, or if there's a there's they're recording it for
Angela or inviting Angela in just for her.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
To see, because they didn't even invite Angela. Now what
the hell is the point?

Speaker 3 (51:06):
They're going to have this trial for Sean to see, right,
and then for Sean to learn his lesson to then
be able to swee talk his way out of it,
which is exactly what happens. So it's like, I don't Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, they also don't want that many witnesses when they
murder you and send your body to post, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's did they leave you for Feenie.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
That's what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Exactly you're going to be. And Feenie was never going
to tell I think.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I mean a lot of this could have just been
easily fixed if it was like, you know, Dana and
Libby were like, what are we doing next? And Jennifer
is like the ringleader and she's actually a psychopath, and
she's like, we're going to you know, and then they're
kind of like questioning it along the way, but instead
they unify them all yeah, unfairly like it's not yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So then we are back at the guy's apartment. Jack
calls a girl named Melissa to wish her a happy
Valentine's Day. He tells her, I know you probably don't
remember me. Oh you do, And we get our first
facting from and it's not bad long. It's not bad
long antenna. Yeah, I missed.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
The long, I missed the nineties antenna.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah. He turns to Eric. She was the hottest girl
and third grade man. He returns to Melissa and asks
if she has a date tonight. After she responds, he's surprised,
Oh that's sister Melissa. Now are you still hot?

Speaker 1 (52:20):
His turn was so Lawrence brothers? Yeah, yeah, are you
still like? It was such such like? It was such
a Laurence Brother's turn.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
He's got the face, you're still hot?

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It was Lawrence Brother.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Jack hangs up.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
We even hear a beep and Eric tells him he
gave up too easy. Matt bushes down the antenna.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
For no reason.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Right, some real phone, it's over. Then there's a knock
at the door. It's Angela. She's there to meet Sean
for their Valentine's date. They're confused. Angela is too. He
isn't here, is he. The guys look at each other
for a nervous uh, and.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Matt starts laughing, Oh really, yeah, Oh that's.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Funny, And then we're back at the horror movie that's
going on in the boat house. Sean is still being
held captive, and Libby interrogates him. You said you were
gonna call, and you never did. One night of kissing
and you were out the door. Do you think that
didn't mean anything to me? Sean tries to talk, but
he's muffled by the duct tape. Libby rips it off
of him. Oh, the girls all smile at his pain.

(53:22):
Sean defends himself.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
It was kissing.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I mean, I didn't know it was supposed to mean anything.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
If Sean's supposed to defend himself, why tape his mouth?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
No, No, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
You're sure a good button. At the end of the.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Kings, Libby suggests they move right to the penalty phase.
Sean jumps in, wait, can I say something? Dana informs
the other girls. We should let him talk. Sean let's
out a sigh of relief. Thank you, Dana, you were
always the reasonable one. Jennifer stands up and asks, what
was I sewn is terrified you were the Yeah. Shawn
assures them they don't need to protect Angela because he

(53:58):
really cares about her. Dane asks, so you really didn't
care about me? Sean shrugs, Yeah, I did at the time.
Libby asks, and what about me? Sean's eye again, Yeah
I did. Jennifer smirks, and what about me? Sean cowers yeah,
And we see Eric and Jack peeking into the boathouse window.
Eric whispers, look at that Sean broke his date with

(54:20):
Angela it to be with three girls. Jack points out
that he's handcuffed and Eric giggles a little devil. Jack
rolls's eyes. I don't think he's enjoying it. Eric says,
then that's his problem, and I love that. Now you
too are the Corey and Sean, right, you know, you
too are the Krey and Sean. Now that Corey and
Seawann are preoccupied with lady issues, you two have taken

(54:41):
that on and it is really rad.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Well, it is crazy that we've moved away from the
letter and the Lauren story. So it was like literally
a cliffhanger episode, huge story point where god, nothing not nothing, I.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Know, And why didn't Angela go with the guys? Why
didn't Angela go with you two?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Oh, you're right, it would have said, like he went
to the boathouse to meet you, let's go.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Why does she then show up at Corey? What do
they How do you guys lie? And why do you lie?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
There's no reason, I guess there're they're they're assuming that
maybe I lied to Angela, so they're protecting me in
some sort of guy code. You got the letter and
the flowers, and you're like meeting Angela at the boat
hat Like it was like, so, no, there.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Is no reason that Angela wasn't there unless yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Why didn't they say you sent him flowers to meet
at the boat house. He went to go meet you
at the boat house. What I didn't ask, you know, Like,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I just don't know, Angela.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
This isn't the boat house, you know what?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, anything, you're in our apartment, you know, I don't.
I'm a little confused. So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen.
Morgan comes walking in with two giant boxes, of chocolate.
Amy notes, that's an awful lot of chocolate for somebody
who's already so sweet, one.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Who's eight years old still in dressed like a princess
and somebody dressirl is not one thing we know about
her character.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Morgan is not sweet. She was the most bitter, cynical
little kid. That's the joke of her character.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yes, exactly exactly. And why is she not wearing like black?
They should have this girl in dress Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yes? Why? I mean, come on, Morgan explains. One box
is from Henry and one box is from Jimmy. I
haven't decided which one is my boyfriend yet. Alan whispers
to Amy, ooh, we're raising a very fickle woman, because
I mean, you've got two choices, pick one, honey, yes exactly.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Or someday she's gonna end up tied up in a
boat house because she has more than one day exactly crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Amy frowns, Well, at least someone got candy. Allan explains,
I was going to get you a box, but I
know you're watching your weight. Alan quickly realizes his mistake,
and nervous, he tries to cover it up. Gee, he
isn't that an interesting thing? I just said the wait
thing and the uh and the uh. Eric said that
maybe you'd prefer cash. He starts handing her bill after bill,

(57:11):
pleasing Amy. So here I happen to have some cash
on me. As they leave the room, we see Corey
on the phone and Ben is facting on a courted
home phone.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Now he's also I'm sorry on Valentine's.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Day night ordering ordering a dozen roses to miss the
pang Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
Please, there is not a florist in the world up
to and including the national one eight hundred flowers that
could fill that order, but on Valentine's dice couldn't.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Even get those flowers to you in time.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
No.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Also, this order is twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
You want the same thing, it's a forty thousand dollars
order that I need a half an hour on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
To the address of course known as missed a Bengo.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Thanks Lauren, you know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Click.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I was like, what the I was literally at this
point looking around my room, like this is a joke, right,
what's happening? What's going on? The hell is happening right now?

Speaker 7 (58:10):
So smiley and happy as if nothing bad is going
on in the really.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Hello ten.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Please instantly delivered to TL five one thousand.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
It's like, what the hell is happening?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Just then, Angela knocks frantically on the back door. Corey
rushes to open it, and an out of breath, Angela
asks if Sean is there. Corey gives a nervous uh.
She interrupts him. Stop it. He's standing me up, isn't he?
Cory says no, but Angela doesn't care. I guess Jennifer
was right. He's just not ready for a serious relationship.
Corey tries to reason with her. You're doubting your whole

(58:44):
relationship over one misdate. When you're in a relationship, you
don't doubt first, You trust first.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Wait, Janielle, I'm sorry. I never do this. Can you
go back and one more time? Read what the letter.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
That the girls the fake letter the girls put to
get him to the boat house?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yes, what did that say?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
It says?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Let me see? Okay? Yeah, I guess she does. Sean
reads the note attached. I can't stop thinking about you.
Here's to our night of romance. Meet me at the
boat house, love Angela?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, don't they?

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I don't know it's very convenient confusion.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
It's convenient confusion to keep the plot going.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, and to act as though even though they it
was directly in their face that Angela left him Roses
and told them to meet him at the boat house.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
That all men will assume.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
That they need to protect their friend friend, right, that
they must be being shady for a reason, and bro
code is protect them at all costs.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Yes, but he was so excited to go see Angela
and they were criticizing him for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well, no, I wouldn't say they were criticizing, but they
were actually saying, Okay, he's doing it well, and they
want They didn't call him a love puppet. They said
women turn men into love puppets. Then they said, wow,
Sean feels strongly enough about a girl, Well, does she
feel the same about you? Oh, I guess she does.
And then the button to that was next year, we
need dates doing it right. He's doing it right. He's

(01:00:26):
in a relationship with someone. They love each other equally.
That's the way to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Yeah, this really makes no sense, makes no sense. Wow, Okay, yeah,
geez okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
So and then when Corey says, you don't doubt first
you trust first, which is exactly what Tapega did. I
would like to point out she did trust him and
then he lied, So I don't know why he is
in any position to be making this sort of push
to Angela. But okay, Angela realizes, interesting, you say that
considering your current situation, or he tells her his current

(01:00:58):
situation is only his current situation, and then the phone
rings and Corey runs to answer it to Panga, Nope,
it's Eric. Corey fully facting, says aloud, Sean did what
And a little bit of a rare occurrence for Boy
Meets World, we can hear what's on the other Angela's
draw jaw drops, Corey answers the caller, Yeah, Angela's right here,

(01:01:20):
and then we hear all the boys say in unison, uh,
which again is like, how do we lie to protect
Sean in this situation?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
And Sean has done nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Nothing wrong, and they knew where he was going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
He was going to see the house, he was meeting you, So.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
All of the you know what, I bet you this
was a rewrite. I bet you there was a version
of this exact scenario where Sean did get a note
from a mysterious other and decided to go and decided
to go, or it was just vague enough that it
could have been like, oh, maybe you know, maybe I
can do this before I meet Angela or whatever, because
then it would make sense that all the guys are

(01:01:58):
paralyzed from Defender.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
And wanting to protect him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Yeah, right, they do, like, and I know what you
did last summer thing. You get a note saying I know,
and if you don't meet me at the boat house,
I'm telling you something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
But I think in a rewrite they were like, well,
we can't have Sean be that much of a scumbag,
so therefore they just Yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Literally this is one writing wise where it's like what
happened in one scene made no sense to the next scene,
and this doesn't make sense with that, and it's like, wow,
that's that's it's we We will have some story issues
with a lot of episodes of Boy, but it's very
rare that it's this blatantly like, wait a minute, this
just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
A major problem.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, back at the boat house slash the
possible murder scene, Sean is still handcuffed and Dana is
telling her story. Then he said he wanted to be

(01:02:57):
my boyfriend and only go out with me, and I
believed him. And you said that you liked me, but
you just didn't love me like me, which is forever
a reasonable and a very polite thing to say to someone. Yes,
Jennifer asks what Dana thought about that. She admits, I
didn't understand him. Actually, then when he stopped calling, I

(01:03:19):
understood that. Okay, So he was going to stop calling,
and then he did, and then then he got it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Jennifer thanks Dana, then calls Libby Harper to the stand.
Libby says, Sean came over to her house and they
made out for like three hours. She really liked him,
and she thought that he really liked her. Sean earnestly
tells her he did, which gets a weird laugh from
the audience, but he says people grow apart. And I
had another date that night, which gets a normal laugh.

(01:03:52):
I did think that was kind of funny. Jennifer stands up. Yeah,
the date was with me, She smiles. Sorry, lib it's fine.
The only person Sewan Hunter is capable of really liking
a Sean Hunter. Jennifer ads, and that little curly haired guy,
which funny joke coming from her. The door bursts open

(01:04:12):
and Jack declares, how about a witness for the defense.
Sewn is so relieved to see his older brother and Eric.
Jack asks the girls what they're doing, and Eric wants
to know why Sean's getting all the attention. Jennifer says
they're friends of Angela. Shawn's on trial for sins against womanhood.
Eric immediately tells them I gotta go and tries to
jet out, but.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Is stopped by Jennifer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeow. They smile at each other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I walked in. I thought how I walked in was
funny where it's like Eric saw.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I also thought they were trying to set it up
to or maybe it was like an inside joke between
you two, but where writer was like, oh thank god
my brother Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
And Eric and Eric, Yeah that was great.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
There was like a little bit and then you're like,
so I feel like that was a joke between you two,
that there was something going on. They smile at each other.
Jack steps in to defend his brother. He's a good
guy and any girl would be lucky to have him.
Jennifer is now tickling Eric's neck. He's completely unsourceld. She
asks him and what about you. Sean tries to wake

(01:05:14):
him up. Eric, you know me, tell her what kind
of guy I am so I can get out of here.
Eric looks lovingly into Jennifer's eyes. You're pretty. He's a bad,
bad man. Sean tells his brother he was supposed to
meet Angela over an hour ago.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
He needs help. Jack has a plan, yeels out. I object.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
When asked on what grounds, he says he doesn't know
any better. He's a man, a no good, lousy man,
just like the rest of us. And I see Will
shaking his head. Will hates this storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, I hate You're a man. So you're bad.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Yeah, And it's like, especially when they've set it up
to her so far, Sean hasn't done you wrong. No,
so I mean my god.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yep, he asks Libby, Oh God, why was I born
with this curse? And he leans his head on her
shoulder and smiles. Eric checks the handcuffs while Sean begs please,
it's Valentine's Day. I made a promise to Angela.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Now that was something I don't know if you noticed,
but that was something righter. You and I obviously had
some kind of inside something or because when I go
over to check the handcuffs, I'm like looking at him,
and then I look up at you and you look
at me, and we both look away quick because we're
both about to lose it. So there is something with
the cuffs. It was something where it was like, don't look,

(01:06:34):
don't look, because we are about to laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Yep, so Dana reminds him he made the same promise
to her. Sean realizes she's right, but that was six
months ago. So unless season three or was six months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Yeah, they did date more recently.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, so okay, no one makes a promise that far
in advance that they expect to keep. Jennifer asks, how
far in advance can you make a promise? A week
a day? Libby asks how long it will take until
he hurts Angela just like the rest of them, Jennifer
asks a week a day. Sean doesn't know, and right
then Angela and Corey come rushing in. What do you

(01:07:15):
three witches think you're doing? Shawn is so happy to
see her. Jennifer tells Angela they're doing her a favor.
She just doesn't know it yet. Angela says she knows
one thing Sean would have been there for our date
if it wasn't for you, guys valid and then.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
She unlocks Sean's handcuffs. How did she have the keys?

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
That had?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
And it was the key with the little if you
noticed it had like that hine foot on. I mean
it was like, yeah, she had the key.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Oh where were these? Okay? And he assures her I tried.
I wanted to be with you more than anything tonight.
He gives her a big hug. Jennifer claims Sean is
trying to use his charm on the witness, and Dana
says they're not leaving until Sean admits he's not boyfriend Ceial.
Corey tells the girls to give him a break. Shawn's
made mistakes, but he's learning from them. Jennifer points out,

(01:08:05):
I guess you would know a thing about making mistakes.
Corey Matthews, you made the biggest one of all when
you lied to Tapanga the girls. Oh, Cory asks Jennifer,
I never liked you, did I?

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
She whispers no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Then she states her case about Corey Matthews exhibit a
nice guy. If he can't be trusted, can any man
be trusted? Corey defends himself. We all make mistakes and
that's all right, because love doesn't require you to be perfect,
but it does require you to forgive. And then Jennifer
surprises everyone with a surprise witness. She turns to reveal
Topanga Sean, Eric and Jack I'll gasp and do the

(01:08:41):
dramatic Topanga whisper. Corey asks what she's doing here, and
Tapega explains, they wanted to know if I could ever
trust you after what you've done.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
I heard what you said.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
And it was a call Topanga.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Right, so somehow it's going to be here, but not
Angela and not Corey. But Corey was so Yeah, they
called Topanga but not Cory, and Corey came.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
As a surprise witness.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
I think to prove that even nice, No, because then
you'd have to call Corey.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
No, it just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
No, Corey is so glad she's there. I'm so sorry
about this whole thing. Let's just pretend it never happened.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
What a great suggestion from a person who's just screwed up.

Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
I have an idea. What if what if hear me
out we just written I didn't do that?

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Yeah, what if and then take your feelings? You put
him in a little box and down inside yourself. Yeah,
and you think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
You never if it comes up, you go no, no,
no is wrong to Pega winces, I wish it never
happened to Corey smiles. Good. Then let's go to Chubby's.
We'll start all over to Panga tells him, I don't
want to have to start all over, but I'm just
so disappointed in you, and she walks away without saying

(01:10:02):
another word. Angela tries to follow Topanga, but Sean stops her.
He wants to talk. Angela just insists she doesn't care
what these girls think. Sean argues, but they're right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Are they are?

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
They have we that what we've learned here was established.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
In single and I've never done anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
You were honest this whole time about it. I did
feel for you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
It's not even like as the trial was going on
you were getting light bulbs.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
You were actually but I did and I didn't. But
that was six months ago, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I no, I have always wanted to feel for somebody
what Corey feels for Tapanga, he continues to the exes.
So I made promises I couldn't keep, and I said
things that I wanted to feel and I kissed you
like I loved you. I'm sorry if I hurt any
of you. I didn't mean to. They all nod, seeming

(01:10:55):
to accept his apology. Sean turns back to Angela. But
I care about you too much to do that to you.
I want to change our relationship because I think you
have to be friends before you can fall in love.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
This made no sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
It does a friendship.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Problem. Is not that he's not a good friend.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
He's a great friend.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
The problem is a bad lover like he.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Is friends with Angela.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yes, they were friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
They were friends, they went out for two weeks, they
broke up, they maintained a friendship, right, Yeah, And so
is he trying to say, let's just not make out anymore.
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
I don't know the lesson. I don't know the lesson
other than man bad. Yeah, I mean, cheating need to
be forgiven exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I mean basically it's like you, you know, like I said,
the logic is the most evolved male thing to do
is to be tortured in a relationship, like to be
committed to somebody. Despite all the desires to not be
in a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Relationship, Angela says, you want to be my friend. Sean nods,
that's where I want to start. She asks, and where
do you want to end up? Which feels like a
weird thing for Angela to ask. Yeah, he admits, I
don't want to end up saying things that I don't mean,
and I don't want to end up making a promise
that I can't keep.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Not to you, She asks, why.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Not to me?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Sean, I know make any promise that he was killing
his promises, yet I knowing else it literally makes no
sense this entire I think that is in reference to
six months out from now or going back to the
very beginning of the episode, which I did think was
really if there had been any sort of callback to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
You made the promise. Sean made the promise to Angela.
I will never disappoint you or I will never let
you down.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
It's one of those two right.

Speaker 8 (01:12:57):
Days.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
That too, He says, that too, right, and then he says,
I will never disappoint you. I wouldn't because I because
I will never disappoint you. That is a thing that
you can say, I would never knowingly disappoint you. But
like you could never promise I'm never going to do
something living my life that you're not going to feel

(01:13:20):
strongly about and feel let down by. So I guess
like that him saying that at the beginning, because I
did notice that is if you're if you're planning on
being in a long term relationship with somebody and you say,
I promise you will be.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Thrilled with me one hundred percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I think the entire episode should should be built around
Sean telling Corey to lie. Yes, and then this could
just be you know what I've learned my lesson. I
shouldn't have told Corey to lie. I will always be
honest with you, yep, simple, clear, Yeah, And she could
say thank you, But instead it's like friendship and let's
take a step back, and then I won't Just it's

(01:13:56):
like it's all this abstract stuff that doesn't but that relationship.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
To this Situaly point out that Sean didn't lie to
the girls, and then if they all came in and said,
here's how he lied to me. He told me he
was going to be at such and such a place,
and then it found out he was with another girl
and then told me that was his cousin, but it
turned out to be her.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I mean, it's like if they went something bit, but
they didn't do any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
He told me he liked me, but he wasn't in
love with me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Oh okay, he broke up with me after making out
with me.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Okay, after we dated for a while and we were fifteen.
He was honest and broke up with me, and it
hurt my feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
So Angela asks why not to me? Sean doesn't want
to say. She tries to guess, because you care about me.
But now suddenly Sean insists he's not talking, even though
saying that yes, he cares about her would not be
a lie. She asks what he's doing tonight and he
says nothing. She asks, you want to hang out? He
smiles and puts his arm around her to leave. He

(01:14:50):
tells Corey he shouldn't be alone and invites him to
come along. Corey siys, no, you guys, go ahead. I'm
going to go to Chubby's. Sean's confused. Why would you
go there? Corey says, was certainty because the Pang is
going to be there. I know her. She'll be there,
at least I hope she's there. After the three of
them leave, Dana gets emotional. It was just so sweet.
Isn't it the best to have friends? Jennifer snaps, oh,

(01:15:12):
shut up, Valentine's say blows. Eric casually interjects, it really
doesn't have to What do you guys think about a
nice romantic dinner. He plops himself down in Jennifer's lap.
Jack puts one arm around Libby and the other one
around Dana. No lies, no false promises. Apparently they're setting
up a threutle. Eric adds, just a lovely evening with

(01:15:34):
two well intentioned guys. Jennifer asks if there's really such
a thing, and Eric scoffs, Oh, You've got to learn
to be more trusting. As the girls and Jack and
Eric all file out of the boat house, Eric takes
a quick stop to grab the pair of handcuffs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Because of course I'm hanging out with high school chicks yep, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
And I'm assuming showing us that no, you can not
ever trust a man. You just said too well intentioned,
and you run.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Out with hagus so that the shades of Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
We're in the tag. Remember our last episode didn't have
a tag tag list. This one has a tag. Silence
Or is sitting at a booth all by himself with
a bouquet of roses set on the table, looking at
his watch. The Chubbies workers are starting to clean up
for the night, leaving only him, Sean, and Angela waiting
at a table close by. Eventually they get up from
their table and join Corey in his booth. Sean puts

(01:16:30):
his arm around his best friend for comfort and we
fade out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
So we all did go to chub come with us,
and he said, no, I'm going there. So then we
just went and said of a different table.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Yeah, him himself at Chubbies and empty Chubbies as they're
cleaning up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
What the hell is the point of having I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Think that there's just to show that they're good friends.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Oh that he already invited I know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Okay, Well, we didn't love it, I think when it started,
and then by the end we were like, I think,
actually I'm on the side of I don't love it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, it's just the story made no sense. Ull afterhole
after hole in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Well, join us for our next episode recap, which will
be season five, episode sixteen, Torn between two lovers Feeling
like a Fool, which originally aired February twenty seventh, nineteen
ninety eight. Thank you all for joining us for this
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