April 29, 2025 • 39 mins
From Ezra's birthday blues to Galactic Empire propaganda to the Rodian who is a key link to Ezra's past, this episode had a lot! And is 'drunk uncle' Kanan the best Kanan? The group discusses this, other behind the scenes stories and unwrap some of the mental health themes and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shout out to Freddy's performance as drunk Uncle.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I mean, yes, I wrote that down in my That
is so great. It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Pod of Rebellion. This is
Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula, Specter two, and
I am joined today by.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hi Antia Surcar, the voice of Sabine Run Spectrum five.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
And here with me we have.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Taylor Gray as Bridger Specter six, and we also.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Got John Lee Brody nonspector but full on moderator. And
we are going over season one, episode eight five eight
two three hundred Empire Day. I had a sneak in
that little commercial jingle, and I guess let's start the show,
all right, everybody. We are eight episodes in on season
one of Star Wars Rebels and also of our podcast
(01:04):
past the halfway point of season one, and this one
is is a bit of a doozy, as they would say,
there's a lot packed into these twenty two precious minutes
and leaves us. And this was the mid season finale too.
I remember seeing this in November twenty fourteen and we
had to wait till December to see the other side
of it, so, yeah, I guess how a y'all feeling?
(01:26):
How I do a little check in first before we
get into the recap and everything. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
This episode's kind of heavy?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I got five spoons today, ten spins.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Whatever, let's go.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
You're like an Atlantis Morriset song, like ten thousands spoons?
What all you need is a knife? Isn't that lyrics exactly?
Isn't it Ironicick? Before you start this fun fact? Just
fully about me listening to podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I listened to podcasts at one point five because I'm like,
people are thinking to a speeds it up a bit,
but whenever there was music on a podcast, because some
of the podcasts listener will have like John Mayer as
a guest and they'll be talking and then he'll like
sing a riff from a song. It sounds so funny
at one point five, and everyone's theme music on their
podcast is not what it actually is. So then I'll
(02:15):
hear it and I'll be like, what is that? But
it's because sped up everyone sounds insane. So while we've
been recording, I'm always like, okay, slow.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Four people who are going to be listening at that
speed because I'm gonna sound insane.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But what's funny is I live my life at one
point five because I have ADHD. So that's how I
can feel.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
All right then, So I guess, without further ado, I
should do my recap and I will not go at
one point five speed, at least I'll try not to.
So although the ads she does sometimes kickin, I might
go at two time speed. You never know. I think
that's just the fun of it. So shall I? Shall
I recap this episode?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
All right? Here we go, Season one, episode eight, Empire Day,
Canaan is training Ezra and trying to get into Channel's
inner dark, do little by way of the force and
connect with the loath cat. It's not working. As was
frustrated it doesn't see the point in the exercise. Kin
is a bit perplexed by Azra's aloof and somber attitude,
but as revealed, it's due to the fact that it's
Empire Day, a day that is meant to celebrate the
anniversary of the Empire's creation, and as if right on
(03:17):
cue the moment expresses this, three tie fighters fly above
them and with them a very dark cloud metaphorically speaking
Canan as a tracked on the Tie Fighter pilots and
see there in search of our Rodian. But not just
any Rodian. It's a Rodean that Ezra knows, the named Sebo,
someone who is friends with his parents. Between the Empire
loyalist high Fighter pilots and the Empire propaganda on the
hallow Net, this is all quite a lot for everyone
(03:37):
to deal with, but the Ghost Creu has plans to
disrupt the upcoming Empire Day parade. However, Ezra says he
needs time to be alone. While he's alone in his
communications tower bachelor pad, he meditates and hear's the voices
of his parents and it's led to a moment of clarity.
At the parade, Imperial troops led by Callus are continuing
their man hunt for Sebow like Tommy ey Jones pursuing
Harrison Ford in the Fugitive Whilere while the Empire plans
(03:59):
the Peacock, their latest high advanced fighter to citizens, but
thanks to the Ghost Crew being the ultimate party pooperus
like Orange Soorzenacer and Kindergarten Cop, those plans are derailed,
much to the dismay of Palpatine's cronies. However, these actions
put both the Inquisitor and Callus among others, in hot
pursuit of our beloved ghost crew. As A rejoins the
group and guides them to a hideout where they find Seaboat,
the very roading The Empire is after. Sibo, however, isn't
(04:20):
the Seabo as are ones new. He appears at being
given the lobot treatment, with cybernetic circuit implants, making him
apparently more machine than man or Rodian. With her text
Sabinus on full display, Sabina's able to tap into Seabo's
cybernetic implants and uncovers the Covenant intel in Sebo's brain
that the Empire is after. With the plan now shifting
the smuggling Seabo off a la Thal, the gang steals
(04:41):
an Imperial transport to make their getaway. The Empire attempts
the block all exists out of the city, but Sabine
adopts Keanu, uses mentality and speed and keeps the stolen
transport well above fifty miles an hour and plows right
through the empire blockade, and despite Callous being hot on details,
the crew is able to outrun him. Like how Devin
Hester outran everyone on Kickoff returns in two thousand, seve up,
look it up.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's it's pretty yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Of course, the crew makes it back to the on
the ghost with Cebo it's not a time to celebrate
duty the Inquisitor, with the fleet of tie fighters gunning
them down, putting the ghosts near red alert. The episode
ends with Cibo surprisingly talking coinheriently for the first time.
He says some to the ezram rode, in which, of
course the Queen of Xeno Linguistics of Being is able
to understand and translate. She reveals that Sebo says he
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knows what happened to Ezra's parents. Upon hearing this, Ezra
looks more shocked than moviegoers in nineteen ninety nine when
the twist of the sixth Sense was revealed, and before
we can delve any deeper, the audience is naturally left
hanging with the two we continued title card, and that
is season one, episode eight, Empire.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well done, John, that was a.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Big one, because there's a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Does that mean I get to be Sandy Bullock?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Absolutely, you can be our mis congeniality of the podcast.
I'm all for that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
With uh if she's wasn't she in Speed was?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, okay, I was crossing all over all those things.
And I love that the visual of Sabine slash Tea
driving the bus, like if there's a Speed reboot. I'm
just putting that out there. Let's just say so, this
is a big one. As Vanessa even said at the
top of the episode, this, this has a lot, it's
very heavy. We learn a lot more about Ezrah, and
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we also learn that it's his The Empire Day is
also his birthday, so it's like birthday blues on top
of the very triggering Empire Day. And and look, we
try to keep things, we want to keep things positive
everything here, but when you watch Star Wars and especially
this episode, you can't help but think of certain current events.
That's all I will say. So I feel like it
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just it resonates on so many different levels, or it
affects you on many different levels.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Rather and shout out to the loft cat.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
The loft cat.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, great teeth right, good teeth work. I thought that
was pretty hilarious considering you become best friends with Pergols eventually,
I thought this really set the stage for your relationship
with animals and what have you.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
The episode felt really long to me.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I was watching on the friend and we stopped as
I was this like a double compared to everything else.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It just felt like it was a really long episode.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Or maybe it was just very dense, like we really
covered a lot, we had like a whole mission, We
did so many things.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
But also you did sort of get this. Maybe it
was just the underlying emotion of it. You got this
whole sort of like depth with Cibo.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I also loved what Canaan was saying about with vulnerability
comes power and obviously you were so troubled. Your character
was so troubled that you weren't able to commune with
the lost cat. I thought that was a valuable lesson
for anyone listening. And also shout out to gol Trevis
Brett Speiner remember.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Oh yeah, second appearance on the show. I believe, I.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Believe so yeah, his love performance. But another cute little
thing that you had said to Sabine, like did you
miss me? Another greatest Hits moment for me between the
two of your your playfulness. Those are my highlights, my
favorite takeaways other than the intense nature of the day
(08:13):
for Ezra, I think it was good to have a
better understanding. I mean, the last episode we got a
sense of Sabine's history, and in this one we really
get a sense of yours and why you're so you know,
upset and you say that you were alone since age seven?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Or that's pretty intense? How did it feel for you
watching it? You know, given that your character was sort
of revealing all that past trauma.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's funny because I think the last episode we spoke
about to you saying before sessions, we would talk with
Dave and we had had like a story book and
I remember just like working with like secrets and objectives
and different things, sort of classically with scenes. The thing
that I always was thinking about through the first season
(09:01):
was like, why is he this way?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Because I was like, my in for Star Wars is
not going to be knowing the world is just going
to be trying to know this person. And I remember
it was all about his parents, and so I knew
that was sort of coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And it hasn't really come to a head.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But this showed there was something that struck me though
watching it that I was like, well, that's some strength
that I definitely didn't have yet at that age where
he knows something's weighing on him, and rather than lash out,
which I think so many people do I've done before,
he was like, I'm just going to take time to
myself and I don't know. It felt so strong for
(09:39):
a kid to say, like, yo, I'm not ready to
unpack this yet, but like I'm not okay, but also
I'm not going to take this out on anyone else,
and I'm going to go be with myself. And I
thought that was pretty cool to see and very sort
of mature. Then obviously we see why, but I was
(10:03):
getting kind of confused with the whole Seaboat thing because
there were a couple of rotings we saw right this
is the other thing that I enjoyed was that his parents,
which we'll come to learn more about, were rebels that
they were broadcasting from down in their house. That it
just feels so right, So I thought that was very fun.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I love that you mentioned that because we talked a
little bit about mental healthnames last week with Sabine's character
the PTSD and trauma and everything, and I feel like
this is again where Taylor, you bleeding to Ezra and
vice versa, because you, since I met you, you're someone
who seems to always want to tap into, like how
can I get more emotionally intelligent? And I feel like
Ezra has this kind of inquisitive mind but also holds
(10:45):
himself back and I feel like, you know, you talking
about it from your perspective, it just so like goes
hand in hand with like the Ezra character. For me,
it's like before I started therapy, like until I started
learning these terms, I was like, Oh, that's what the
that is, that's what trauma, that's what you mean by trauma,
that's what you mean by this. And I feel like
Ezra is aware of it, but he doesn't know what
(11:07):
to call it. And he's also like has the maturity
to not lash out. But also the other side of
that is he's suppressing it and like repressing those feelings,
which as we know, can lead to like a pressure
cooker about the burst, which we kind of almost see
that happening for Ezra. So it's again it's mental health themes,
but not mental health themes. And it's like I said,
(11:29):
this episode's very very heavy, and I feel like when
it came out, we weren't having these transparent, open discussion
about mental health. At least I wasn't at the time,
but I think after going through the pandemic and now
where we are now ten years later, we definitely are,
so those themes seem the rise to the forefront more
for me on the rewatch.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, You're right though, because like every coin,
there's the flip side of it, which is he is
suppressing this thing, and that's where it goes to show
how beautiful the Rebel Family is, is that Caden meets
him and the entire group sort of rallies around him,
and he's able to because he's been on every mission
(12:07):
with them so far bar the last one when hern
Sabine went with the furnof But like the fact that
he showed up again, I think shows this sort of
growth and this desire to be a part of something.
And I think when we talk with like fans of
the show at different conventions or events or whatever, it
(12:31):
may be the thing that I hear most is this
like chosen family, this belonging and fitting in with the group,
because how much it helps with whether it be mental
health issues, whether it be just loneliness, anything that someone's
going through being around other people and being able to
speak with them or just be supported by them in
(12:52):
a nonverbal way means so much.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I think you see that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And it's fun that they It's always fun when they
take down a tie Fighter, and explosion is always a
good time.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
The tie advance too, That's that's a very fit. I
remember I used to play the PC game Tie Fighter
from Lucas Arts, and I remember one of the things
it wasn't the Tide Vance in this episode, but there
was like a Darth Vader TI Advance version. So I'm like, oh,
like they basically blew up the McLaren concept car at
the auto show and everything. That's what I think about.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Also shout out to Freddy's performance as a drunk uncle.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I mean, yes, I wrote that down in my That.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is so great.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You know what that reminded me of going back to
the basketball references. He kind of sounded like remember Bill Walton,
so he was just like, did you see it? It's unbelievable.
That's like, has there been a player better than deathlif Shrimp?
Like that's the vibe that basically Freddy was giving us
with that, And and I heard Freddy kind of you know,
(13:55):
he's a very stoic individual as you all know, but
he has moments like bro oh, come on like so
like it's one of those rare things where Kanaan doesn't
show that side. But also Freddie very seldom will show
that side. So it's it's a payoff if you know him,
but even if you don't, and you know Caanan, it's
a payoff as well. But I wrote that down is
like one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, that that was a That was a very fun
performance of his. Everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That was like a joint effort of do we know
where the meeting point is because we can't bring Zeb
with us. He's like, hey, shoulders, you're not going to
fit in wherever I want to take us. Zeb goes
and meets Haarah at the market. They run it, what
(14:42):
is it?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Then?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Can you get to the old market? And she was
like yes, old market?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, and then our holdout is just my my family's house.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, unbeknownst to the rest of us until.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We get there.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He really doesn't not too forward with information.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Really was folding for a fourteen year old kid. That's
you know, wise beyond your years, I guess, or you
have to sort of mature quickly when you're on your
own since what age seven.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, it's so hard.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
We learn about your life and your back you know
Ezra's life and his background and realize how long he's
been alone and having to be self sufficient, and it's
it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
And then when you hear your parents.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sorry, I keep saying you when as your hears his parents' voices,
and I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
When when I relearned as.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
In I watched it for you know.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
When they're like, we learn as audience that they were
like freedom fighters or rebels themselves, and they're like, that's so,
that's that's sick.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You come from good stock.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, the apple doesn't fall far from the true.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That one, it's sweet and Seebo, that is that a
thing that we've Is this a JC question or you
guys might note that we've seen before that sort of
lobotomy like thing where they've attached him to become just
this like classic slave worker.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
It looked like sabine knew what it was because she
was the one who said this is like a cybernetic implant.
But the first time I saw was on Lobot and
Empire strikes back. But I would think so, but Sabine
definitely knew because she was the one with her text
savvy is kind of unlocking everything.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But you can add that to the running tally.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, and you understand Rodian of course, because of course
you do. I mean when we get to the tally portion,
like when we get to our recap of season one,
I can't wait for the tally of how many languages,
how many special skills. If Sabine Wren was going on
in auditions and the resume on the back for headshot,
like the special skills, it would be like its own page,
(16:52):
like that's at this point, that's that's the course we're
set on to.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That, and her headshot would be something that she heard herself.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
They're like, wait a minute, this isn't this isn't something
from backstage West what's going on here? So I believe Also,
this is the first time we hear the mention of
Emperor Palpatine in this episode, because they do mention Palpatine
when they're on the hollow Net, and we get again
the Empire propaganda, and we get another mention of Governor Price,
who of course was voiced by Mary Elizabeth. We have
(17:23):
not met Governor Price I don't think we've even seen
Governor Price yet, but this is the second time we've
heard from her. I heard about him. Yeah, And what
I really liked about this episode too because it is
very heavy, but I felt they were very smart. It
was very smart to put in those comedic beats with
Canaan and channeling his inner Bill Walton, or the part
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that Vanessa alluded to earlier when I was like, oh,
did you missed me? And then on top of that,
Zeb's like ah, Like I was like, dude, come on,
you didn't have to do that. And then when they're
with Cibo, he just wandering around, he just knocks himself
into the door and falls down, and I was just like, oh, Like,
(18:04):
so it's because without that, it would be a very
depressing and heavy episode. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Heavy, It's like it's really I mean, it's information we
need as an audience.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But I don't know that any.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Of us were prepared for it, you know, just how
deep and how heavy it is.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
How about you as performers, you know, like when you
get this script or when you were about to do this,
like what's what can you recall anything? Of? Like oh wow,
like this is going even deeper like we've dropped breadcrumbs,
but now this is all in front of you, all
risen to the forefront and right in your face, and
you have to like perform and deal with it. So
I'm curious, like what was going through your mind at
that time?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
If you can recall, this was the first episode where
I had that sort of thing. I remember day of
telling us like, we're going to have a few these
episodes where it's going to go to a childhood, and
it was a dark childhood, and I remember being like, oh, well,
then I'll get to like act. I had this sort
of idea that you spoken about before, and this was
the first time I realized, oh no, it's all the same.
(19:04):
I'm doing the same thing that I would if I
was on screen. The only thing is you're not seeing
my face. But then I realized they're using some with
that thing. I know exactly how I would play this
in a show, and it's it's you convey a lot
through We see he doesn't want to share it as
(19:24):
much with words. He's processing these things, and they I
saw that parallel to exactly how I would and what
I was doing when we were there, and I realized, oh,
we approached this the way we do anything, whether we're
on stage, whether it's a three hundred million dollar movie
or it's an indie TV show or at Star Wars Rebels.
(19:46):
You approached the character with what their given circumstances are.
And for me that was a big turning point, Like,
I'm glad you asked that because I forgot about that.
I remember that episode being like, Oh, this is all
the exact same. We're coming in and we're playing this
person's reality.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
How about you, Tia or Vanessa, like any any recollection
of getting this because you're essentially like uncovering a lot
of the mystery box that's been established at this point.
And then this is like I said, it's very heavy,
right in your face. That could literally be an episode
of This Is Us. You know, they give you all
the feels.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Came later, which I'm know too, But I would say
before those episodes where we were really delving into more
emotional or just you know, our characters being in a
more vulnerable place, and especially with Sabine, she just she
(20:40):
doesn't allow herself to be vulnerable or feel emotion. That's
not rage so but I would say that before those episodes,
it was helpful because you know, Dave Filoni would sort
of sit us down, or I'll speak for myself, sit
me down and really talk it through and give me,
(21:01):
give me the information I needed to like to make
it work and to give the best performance I could.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And so I think.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Those chat those the chats were always helpful, but especially
for those episodes that were we needed to be a
little more, be a little more del look it with.
I found those like uh chats to be informative and
helpful and kind of get me in the right head
(21:28):
space to do what I needed to do.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I felt personally, I was intrigued to consider the concept
that one his parents were a sort of part of
the very silent rebellion, if you will, or the building rebellion.
That felt like a confirmation of Harrah's instincts that this
kid should join them. But also this episode seems to
(21:54):
hint that if Sebo knows where his parents are, there's
hope that they can be reunited, and that ultimately I
felt more hope than sorrow because of that. Now we
all know where that lands. However, at least at the
end of this I had hope, but I definitely had
(22:15):
much more compassion for the person who mounts chopper and
is you know, horsing around here and there, or forgetting
to check the fuel gauge, etc. When you start to
understand where people come from, it's not as simple as
it appears initially, and so it was helpful information not
(22:38):
only for me, you know, trying to understand how I
gathered all these people, but how I might be able
to help Ezra form a new family and maybe find
his original family. But it was heavier. I think it
was heavier in the rewatch for me. In the moment,
I felt more hopeful, and in the rewatch I was like, whoa,
this is heavy, especially, like you said, for a kid
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to be like yo, I need time to myself Like wow,
remarkable self care and self awareness for a young dude.
Not everyone takes that space to say I'm not ready
to unpack this. I mean, maybe that's more common today,
but I thought that was admirable to have that boundary
that if if that's modeled for kids to do that
(23:21):
in their own lives, I think that's amazing because I
think it is important to take time to process things
and they don't need to be discussed every you know,
five minutes or displayed that everyone deserves that right to privacy,
and I respected the character for taking it in the rewatch.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
That was what struck me.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, and that just goes to show like the real
intelligent writing of the show, because it is the gift
that keeps giving, because you know, there's certain shows or
movies that you can you know how it ends, but
because of where you are personally in terms of your
own personal growth, they may hit you differently. Just like
me watching this now versus twenty fourteen, it's night and day,
Like it's a very different version of me that watched
(24:00):
it in twenty fourteen, unaware what my own mental health
was and I was going through my own personal stuff
and now having you know, being on the path of
being better adjusted and trying to improve each and every day,
you're like, oh wow, Like the themes were there, and
it just goes to show I just to any writers
out there, you don't have to beat people over the
head with it. You don't have to say, hey, this
is a mental health talk. Just be authentic with the
(24:22):
characters and let that performers perform it authentically, and then
whoever it resonates with is what it resonates with. As
long as it comes from a genuine place, that's what matters.
But then as viewers go through their own personal journey,
then they pick out what really is resonating with them personally,
and that's what rebels does. I mean, we're eight episodes in,
I got all this information. But that's the really cool
(24:47):
thing about shows like this, or like a movie like ET,
Like you can watch ET as a child versus ET
as an adult. It's way way, way, way way different.
And one thing I wanted to point out is that
when Sibo reveals Azra was born on an Empire day,
this is going to be something that JAC can pick
up on. This means that technically, and this I guess,
I make him a couple of days older, but he's
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the same age as Luke and Lea because we're like
because they were born the same year. Because this is
what fifteen years after the formation of the Empire of
episode three.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
JC dot gov Let's go.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
JC will know. And then they also mention a five
year plan when they get all the intel from Cibo,
and as we know, this is five years before the
Battle of Yeven. So are these are we hinting at
the Death Star plans? Essentially that is in Cibo's brain
and going back to what you said to us about hope,
so we are hinting at a new hope. So it's
all full circle. The circle is complete, as Darth Vader
(25:44):
would say. And one thing that stood out to me
on this rewatch is when that little disc like Azra
has that little disc, it looked like I think Jacon
will know this as well. I feel like that's some
sort of nod to the star or video game or
computer game, or it's just looks like every floppy disc.
(26:04):
But I grew up in the era of floppy disk.
But I feel like if anybody knows j C as
our T shirts say, I don't know if our merchan
is out yet, but eventually our teachers will sagment.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's another good T shirt. If anyone knows j C News, Yes, truly.
There's all kinds of different iterations that.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I'll work for j C News.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, here's one that is prettymature. How many to be
continued episodes did we have? Because that at the end,
I was like, oh, okay, what's that mean? Is it
the whole show to be continued?
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Like the show good point? Good point?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Maybe part one and two of the first episode, or
you know, the first two episodes.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Did they say that at the end of the first
Sparker value to be continued?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
I don't remember they were.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I mean at least they aired back to back in
one evening, so I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
It wasn't our series finale. Wasn't that two parts? I mean,
we'll get there.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We have.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, it's definitely the second time on our rewatch because
I know on the Disney Plus versions it says to
be continued Doctor spark Rebelling Part one, and it says
it on this So I think so far twice what
like Taylor said, And if we're going back to the
genesis of when George Lucas created this, he was inspired
by the action serials from back in the day, which
(27:25):
was always cliffhanger ending. So I think I think you're right.
I think Star Wars or maybe just life in general
is always to be continued?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Is this is now curse? Your question? Is Lobot short
for lobotomy is what they called him that?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Well, you know, who's gonna know.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Throw that flag on the field. I don't know, buddy.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Here's the thing, like who knows more? It's like remember
Bonos in the nineties. It's like, I feel like JC
knows is a new Boos at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I love that added to the march.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
The line along with the Zinger slingers.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Oh that's right, I'd like zeus Zinger slingers. I know
we're waiting to hear I guess the official results from
our audience members. But when you said Zinger slinger I'm like,
that's it.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
That's kind of it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I'm sure someone out there is going to come home
with something infinitely better, but for now, until then, I'm
all with singers.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I remember growing up there was these things, not from Hostess,
but they looked like Twinkies, but they were called zingers.
It's a nineties thing, So that's what I think. I
don't know if they're still around, but if they are,
maybe maybe that's a brain. Yeah, you're giving everybody diabetes. Basically.
That's why that storm Trooper couldn't make it. It's like, oh,
(28:45):
I T.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Two, you know, and it just kind of a real weapon.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Well, I mean that's a whole other discussion we can
go down, considering Empire Day and everything. Uh I and
I also love we don't get a whole lot of
one on one with Zeb and Sabine. We get a
moment here, and I love the whole thing of you
hand him. He's like he'd just like wait now, now now.
(29:12):
And then the way they edited together too, like they
getting closer and closer and closer, and then just the
way that's being casual, like yeah now, but like Zeb
is clearly like panicked, and it's so fun to see
this big hulking guy. Wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on, don.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And and she's cucumber like now yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
And yeah the way through it, that was a funny
thing because the accent he's doing. I was like, oh,
it's rugby. He like most people conventionally you think, would
throw like that. He like under arms, like a rugby
toss up in the air, which I thought was very funny.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
And then he did it again. He kept throwing fireworks.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
We should we should break that down. Remember remember the
late great Kobe had a show called Detail and he
would break down everybody's game tape. Taylor, I feel like
you can break down Zeb's throw.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm no a.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Fan of it because also I know Jay C's got
an eye for it because he saw that as through
something left handed that I picked up early on. You know.
The thing that stands out to me though, when we're
talking about people in the booth, I remember how everyone stood.
I remember people would get into these poses when they
would be on the mic, and it was fun like
Freddy would do two different things depending on what the
(30:23):
scene was, and he would like grab one to his
wrist and every time, like certain people had ways of
going about it. And the guy who played suit Visago,
he would sit down, I think, yeah, which I always
was like, what a gangster.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's right, that's funny. Yeah, there are people who who
sit and those who stand.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Didn't you say Mark Hamill is a sitter of Vanessa?
I remember, I think about that.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In the regular show he sat, he would read the
paper and then say Selene and then go back.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Talk about gangster. Yeah, yeah, the oh.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
My gosh, what who is the minister?
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Uh? By the way, porcelain skin that guy right, he.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Looks like a Bernard Buffet uh painting? Yes, like whoever
drew him?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, oh, that's literally how Bernard Buffet who
like him and Pacasso at the time, they drew these
very angular faces. You would do all the like circus
artists in France, and I was like, this is identical
to one of those characters.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
We should do a side by side that could be
that could be another social clip, just kind of side
by side of what you're talking about there. And uh
and the Inquisitor who we're talking about, Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Jason Isaacs who you know, he gets more and more
to do as the the the show goes on. But
and and also like the moment that I like to
again like this episode jam packs so much and that's
(31:56):
so amazing to me because this was originally for broadcast
where there are combs breaks and it has to be
written and edited that way where these these break points
are put in. But you pack in so much. It's
a very Ezra heavy episode. But you're getting more and
more of these other characters. And even that moment where
zeb has to choose between he can shoot Agent Kallis
(32:17):
or the Inquisitor, and he has to do the right
thing and go out to the inquisitor because that's for
the to quote Spock from Rathicon, like the needs of
the many outweigh the needs of the few sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And David David Shaughnessy was Commandant Oresco. Is that who
you were talking about me?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know, I was talking about the minister who says, oh,
Governor Price can't be here because she's.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
On where she?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Of course where she? And I think I think that's
the case because that's who I'm talking about. It looked
like Bernard.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh yeah, like he has like the little hat on
and a very long face.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Is that who you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I'm talking about the woman who Oh.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, that's Kats to see sorry, Oh Cats Suc is
the woman, right? I thought you were asking about the
male character, Minister Minister Tua. Yeah, yeah, that's Cats Suc.
Peter mcnicholl was ce Bo.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Well, they both were great. Indeed, they were both fantastic.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
And I love that Dee Bradley Baker was your dad.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh yeah, that was when I did. I was like,
that's d yep.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'll have to go back and when you.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Rewatch that part.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, all the Easter eggs, all the Easter eggs. Okay. Well,
I think that we covered this upisode quite well, and
it's funny how there's so much, but we also like
were able to I think over everything and I think
now without further Ado as always it's time for I
believe our favorite part of the podcast, which is Fact
Tech Fact. Let's just rewind and now it's time once
(33:54):
again for our favorite part of the podcast, our fact
check with our guy JC. What do you got?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right?
Speaker 8 (34:00):
But not a ton I just wanted to mention you guys,
shouted out Devin Hesser at the beginning of the show
during my favorite part of the show, which is John's
clever recap Devin Hester. I went to college with Devin Hester,
so I have to say college football.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
And you're from Chicago too, so you understood. Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Brett Speiner was in episode three and again here. It's
his second appearance in the show that came up briefly
the Deep Dive this week. The Tie Advanced V one
is what we see in this episode. It's the inquisitors
version of the Tie Advanced, the Taie Advance that we
see and that you played video games with as the
(34:41):
X one, which is also known as Darth Vader's Tie Fighter.
Some of the differences the wings of the V one
fold in, which is the only tie fighter that kind
of does that. It also only has the solar panels
on the inside. It's plated with armor on the outside
and the wings fold on that to conserve hangar space.
(35:05):
The X one is referred to in a book by
Dan Wallace, The Rebel Files that was released in twenty
seventeen as the next iteration of the V one. So
Dart Vader sci Fier from a New Hope is the
next version, the new model of what we see in
this episode. Canonically, you guys mentioned Cibo and Lobot. My
(35:29):
pull from the cebo head thing was Echo from Backbatch,
so it's almost like Echo was the precursor to what
they did with Cibo, even though I think timeline wise
it may be a little bit different. Luke and Lea
were born two days after Empire Day, so Ezra's in
(35:50):
facts slightly more than Luke and Lea and Vizago was
played by a person named Keith, And I'm so sorry
about the pronunciation of this last name.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Keith Zara Baca is great.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I love.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Wait, jac did you play college ball?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
I went to University of Miami, though, which was like
the best college football program in the world. While I
was there not to age myself, but yeah, like twenty
seven first round draft picks out of my four years there.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Hey, no, wow, I mean they did have that reputation.
I mean there was nothing like Miami football back in
the day when they were at their miamis just those
Florida colleges in general. You know, now it's definite a
transfer portal and everything, nil deals, but back in those days,
it was. It was something you probably just won't see again.
And there's a great thirty for thirty on it.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
There's two of them. There's the you and the U
part two. I saw Michael Vick's last college football game
at the Orange Bowl. Really yeah, I was. I was
there at a very fun time to be a college
football fan.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Other bear that, I uh, just because we're going to
talk sports that I went to college with is Greg Olsen,
who now does college.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, and what were so obviously everyone knows for our sportsman,
So we were trying to set ourselves up for some
sports activations. So you know, if college football or Super
Bowls or World Series or NBA championships like need our presence, Like,
we're ready. I don't speak of everybody, but I'm pretty
sure our starting five here is ready to.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Be dying for you.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Oh my god, Austin College game day. I'm saying, be
incredible or inside the NBA just so we can hear
Charles byke go. Oh no, no, let me just tell
you some Star Wars levels is not toable. It is great.
It's fantastic, and it's going to be in my tough Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
You know, isn't there a March Madness thing that they
do with Star Wars? Like maybe we get up in
the March Madness thing.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I would love that because I personally like college basketball more.
There's something about college basketball that's just special and student
sections and everything, so I would love that.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Maybe next year.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
I'm just happy you guys are talking about doing like
pregame and postgame. I thought you were like, the five
of us are going to go up in a physical
challenge of basketball game.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Although I wasn't mean forward, but.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, I'm trying to spectatem.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Ll do it.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Taylor still got the young legs. So Taylor still got
the young legs. He's good, h.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I just you don't want to be on my team.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I'll tell you that we'll.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Play together, bringing it back, bringing it back's well, we'll see,
we'll see you all very soon on some of these
UH sports pre and post talk shows. But until then,
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Speaker 2 (39:00):
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Shout out to Freddy's performance as drunk Uncle.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I mean, yes, I wrote that down in my That
is so great. It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Pod of Rebellion. This is
Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula, Specter two, and
I am joined today by.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hi Antia Surcar, the voice of Sabine Run Spectrum five.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
And here with me we have.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Taylor Gray as Bridger Specter six, and we also.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Got John Lee Brody nonspector but full on moderator. And
we are going over season one, episode eight five eight
two three hundred Empire Day. I had a sneak in
that little commercial jingle, and I guess let's start the show,
all right, everybody. We are eight episodes in on season
one of Star Wars Rebels and also of our podcast
(01:04):
past the halfway point of season one, and this one
is is a bit of a doozy, as they would say,
there's a lot packed into these twenty two precious minutes
and leaves us. And this was the mid season finale too.
I remember seeing this in November twenty fourteen and we
had to wait till December to see the other side
of it, so, yeah, I guess how a y'all feeling?
(01:26):
How I do a little check in first before we
get into the recap and everything. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
This episode's kind of heavy?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I got five spoons today, ten spins.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Whatever, let's go.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
You're like an Atlantis Morriset song, like ten thousands spoons?
What all you need is a knife? Isn't that lyrics exactly?
Isn't it Ironicick? Before you start this fun fact? Just
fully about me listening to podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I listened to podcasts at one point five because I'm like,
people are thinking to a speeds it up a bit,
but whenever there was music on a podcast, because some
of the podcasts listener will have like John Mayer as
a guest and they'll be talking and then he'll like
sing a riff from a song. It sounds so funny
at one point five, and everyone's theme music on their
podcast is not what it actually is. So then I'll
(02:15):
hear it and I'll be like, what is that? But
it's because sped up everyone sounds insane. So while we've
been recording, I'm always like, okay, slow.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Four people who are going to be listening at that
speed because I'm gonna sound insane.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But what's funny is I live my life at one
point five because I have ADHD. So that's how I
can feel.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
All right then, So I guess, without further ado, I
should do my recap and I will not go at
one point five speed, at least I'll try not to.
So although the ads she does sometimes kickin, I might
go at two time speed. You never know. I think
that's just the fun of it. So shall I? Shall
I recap this episode?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
All right? Here we go, Season one, episode eight, Empire Day,
Canaan is training Ezra and trying to get into Channel's
inner dark, do little by way of the force and
connect with the loath cat. It's not working. As was
frustrated it doesn't see the point in the exercise. Kin
is a bit perplexed by Azra's aloof and somber attitude,
but as revealed, it's due to the fact that it's
Empire Day, a day that is meant to celebrate the
anniversary of the Empire's creation, and as if right on
(03:17):
cue the moment expresses this, three tie fighters fly above
them and with them a very dark cloud metaphorically speaking
Canan as a tracked on the Tie Fighter pilots and
see there in search of our Rodian. But not just
any Rodian. It's a Rodean that Ezra knows, the named Sebo,
someone who is friends with his parents. Between the Empire
loyalist high Fighter pilots and the Empire propaganda on the
hallow Net, this is all quite a lot for everyone
(03:37):
to deal with, but the Ghost Creu has plans to
disrupt the upcoming Empire Day parade. However, Ezra says he
needs time to be alone. While he's alone in his
communications tower bachelor pad, he meditates and hear's the voices
of his parents and it's led to a moment of clarity.
At the parade, Imperial troops led by Callus are continuing
their man hunt for Sebow like Tommy ey Jones pursuing
Harrison Ford in the Fugitive Whilere while the Empire plans
(03:59):
the Peacock, their latest high advanced fighter to citizens, but
thanks to the Ghost Crew being the ultimate party pooperus
like Orange Soorzenacer and Kindergarten Cop, those plans are derailed,
much to the dismay of Palpatine's cronies. However, these actions
put both the Inquisitor and Callus among others, in hot
pursuit of our beloved ghost crew. As A rejoins the
group and guides them to a hideout where they find Seaboat,
the very roading The Empire is after. Sibo, however, isn't
(04:20):
the Seabo as are ones new. He appears at being
given the lobot treatment, with cybernetic circuit implants, making him
apparently more machine than man or Rodian. With her text
Sabinus on full display, Sabina's able to tap into Seabo's
cybernetic implants and uncovers the Covenant intel in Sebo's brain
that the Empire is after. With the plan now shifting
the smuggling Seabo off a la Thal, the gang steals
(04:41):
an Imperial transport to make their getaway. The Empire attempts
the block all exists out of the city, but Sabine
adopts Keanu, uses mentality and speed and keeps the stolen
transport well above fifty miles an hour and plows right
through the empire blockade, and despite Callous being hot on details,
the crew is able to outrun him. Like how Devin
Hester outran everyone on Kickoff returns in two thousand, seve up,
look it up.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's it's pretty yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Of course, the crew makes it back to the on
the ghost with Cebo it's not a time to celebrate
duty the Inquisitor, with the fleet of tie fighters gunning
them down, putting the ghosts near red alert. The episode
ends with Cibo surprisingly talking coinheriently for the first time.
He says some to the ezram rode, in which, of
course the Queen of Xeno Linguistics of Being is able
to understand and translate. She reveals that Sebo says he
(05:25):
knows what happened to Ezra's parents. Upon hearing this, Ezra
looks more shocked than moviegoers in nineteen ninety nine when
the twist of the sixth Sense was revealed, and before
we can delve any deeper, the audience is naturally left
hanging with the two we continued title card, and that
is season one, episode eight, Empire.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well done, John, that was a.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Big one, because there's a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Does that mean I get to be Sandy Bullock?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Absolutely, you can be our mis congeniality of the podcast.
I'm all for that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
With uh if she's wasn't she in Speed was?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, okay, I was crossing all over all those things.
And I love that the visual of Sabine slash Tea
driving the bus, like if there's a Speed reboot. I'm
just putting that out there. Let's just say so, this
is a big one. As Vanessa even said at the
top of the episode, this, this has a lot, it's
very heavy. We learn a lot more about Ezrah, and
(06:20):
we also learn that it's his The Empire Day is
also his birthday, so it's like birthday blues on top
of the very triggering Empire Day. And and look, we
try to keep things, we want to keep things positive
everything here, but when you watch Star Wars and especially
this episode, you can't help but think of certain current events.
That's all I will say. So I feel like it
(06:42):
just it resonates on so many different levels, or it
affects you on many different levels.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Rather and shout out to the loft cat.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
The loft cat.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, great teeth right, good teeth work. I thought that
was pretty hilarious considering you become best friends with Pergols eventually,
I thought this really set the stage for your relationship
with animals and what have you.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
The episode felt really long to me.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I was watching on the friend and we stopped as
I was this like a double compared to everything else.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It just felt like it was a really long episode.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Or maybe it was just very dense, like we really
covered a lot, we had like a whole mission, We
did so many things.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
But also you did sort of get this. Maybe it
was just the underlying emotion of it. You got this
whole sort of like depth with Cibo.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I also loved what Canaan was saying about with vulnerability
comes power and obviously you were so troubled. Your character
was so troubled that you weren't able to commune with
the lost cat. I thought that was a valuable lesson
for anyone listening. And also shout out to gol Trevis
Brett Speiner remember.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Oh yeah, second appearance on the show. I believe, I.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Believe so yeah, his love performance. But another cute little
thing that you had said to Sabine, like did you
miss me? Another greatest Hits moment for me between the
two of your your playfulness. Those are my highlights, my
favorite takeaways other than the intense nature of the day
(08:13):
for Ezra, I think it was good to have a
better understanding. I mean, the last episode we got a
sense of Sabine's history, and in this one we really
get a sense of yours and why you're so you know,
upset and you say that you were alone since age seven?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Or that's pretty intense? How did it feel for you
watching it? You know, given that your character was sort
of revealing all that past trauma.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's funny because I think the last episode we spoke
about to you saying before sessions, we would talk with
Dave and we had had like a story book and
I remember just like working with like secrets and objectives
and different things, sort of classically with scenes. The thing
that I always was thinking about through the first season
(09:01):
was like, why is he this way?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Because I was like, my in for Star Wars is
not going to be knowing the world is just going
to be trying to know this person. And I remember
it was all about his parents, and so I knew
that was sort of coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And it hasn't really come to a head.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But this showed there was something that struck me though
watching it that I was like, well, that's some strength
that I definitely didn't have yet at that age where
he knows something's weighing on him, and rather than lash out,
which I think so many people do I've done before,
he was like, I'm just going to take time to
myself and I don't know. It felt so strong for
(09:39):
a kid to say, like, yo, I'm not ready to
unpack this yet, but like I'm not okay, but also
I'm not going to take this out on anyone else,
and I'm going to go be with myself. And I
thought that was pretty cool to see and very sort
of mature. Then obviously we see why, but I was
(10:03):
getting kind of confused with the whole Seaboat thing because
there were a couple of rotings we saw right this
is the other thing that I enjoyed was that his parents,
which we'll come to learn more about, were rebels that
they were broadcasting from down in their house. That it
just feels so right, So I thought that was very fun.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I love that you mentioned that because we talked a
little bit about mental healthnames last week with Sabine's character
the PTSD and trauma and everything, and I feel like
this is again where Taylor, you bleeding to Ezra and
vice versa, because you, since I met you, you're someone
who seems to always want to tap into, like how
can I get more emotionally intelligent? And I feel like
Ezra has this kind of inquisitive mind but also holds
(10:45):
himself back and I feel like, you know, you talking
about it from your perspective, it just so like goes
hand in hand with like the Ezra character. For me,
it's like before I started therapy, like until I started
learning these terms, I was like, Oh, that's what the
that is, that's what trauma, that's what you mean by trauma,
that's what you mean by this. And I feel like
Ezra is aware of it, but he doesn't know what
(11:07):
to call it. And he's also like has the maturity
to not lash out. But also the other side of
that is he's suppressing it and like repressing those feelings,
which as we know, can lead to like a pressure
cooker about the burst, which we kind of almost see
that happening for Ezra. So it's again it's mental health themes,
but not mental health themes. And it's like I said,
(11:29):
this episode's very very heavy, and I feel like when
it came out, we weren't having these transparent, open discussion
about mental health. At least I wasn't at the time,
but I think after going through the pandemic and now
where we are now ten years later, we definitely are,
so those themes seem the rise to the forefront more
for me on the rewatch.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, You're right though, because like every coin,
there's the flip side of it, which is he is
suppressing this thing, and that's where it goes to show
how beautiful the Rebel Family is, is that Caden meets
him and the entire group sort of rallies around him,
and he's able to because he's been on every mission
(12:07):
with them so far bar the last one when hern
Sabine went with the furnof But like the fact that
he showed up again, I think shows this sort of
growth and this desire to be a part of something.
And I think when we talk with like fans of
the show at different conventions or events or whatever, it
(12:31):
may be the thing that I hear most is this
like chosen family, this belonging and fitting in with the group,
because how much it helps with whether it be mental
health issues, whether it be just loneliness, anything that someone's
going through being around other people and being able to
speak with them or just be supported by them in
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a nonverbal way means so much.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I think you see that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And it's fun that they It's always fun when they
take down a tie Fighter, and explosion is always a
good time.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
The tie advance too, That's that's a very fit. I
remember I used to play the PC game Tie Fighter
from Lucas Arts, and I remember one of the things
it wasn't the Tide Vance in this episode, but there
was like a Darth Vader TI Advance version. So I'm like, oh,
like they basically blew up the McLaren concept car at
the auto show and everything. That's what I think about.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Also shout out to Freddy's performance as a drunk uncle.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I mean, yes, I wrote that down in my That.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is so great.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You know what that reminded me of going back to
the basketball references. He kind of sounded like remember Bill Walton,
so he was just like, did you see it? It's unbelievable.
That's like, has there been a player better than deathlif Shrimp?
Like that's the vibe that basically Freddy was giving us
with that, And and I heard Freddy kind of you know,
(13:55):
he's a very stoic individual as you all know, but
he has moments like bro oh, come on like so
like it's one of those rare things where Kanaan doesn't
show that side. But also Freddie very seldom will show
that side. So it's it's a payoff if you know him,
but even if you don't, and you know Caanan, it's
a payoff as well. But I wrote that down is
like one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, that that was a That was a very fun
performance of his. Everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That was like a joint effort of do we know
where the meeting point is because we can't bring Zeb
with us. He's like, hey, shoulders, you're not going to
fit in wherever I want to take us. Zeb goes
and meets Haarah at the market. They run it, what
(14:42):
is it?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Then?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Can you get to the old market? And she was
like yes, old market?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, and then our holdout is just my my family's house.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, unbeknownst to the rest of us until.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We get there.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He really doesn't not too forward with information.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Really was folding for a fourteen year old kid. That's
you know, wise beyond your years, I guess, or you
have to sort of mature quickly when you're on your
own since what age seven.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, it's so hard.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
We learn about your life and your back you know
Ezra's life and his background and realize how long he's
been alone and having to be self sufficient, and it's
it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
And then when you hear your parents.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sorry, I keep saying you when as your hears his parents' voices,
and I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
When when I relearned as.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
In I watched it for you know.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
When they're like, we learn as audience that they were
like freedom fighters or rebels themselves, and they're like, that's so,
that's that's sick.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You come from good stock.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, the apple doesn't fall far from the true.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That one, it's sweet and Seebo, that is that a
thing that we've Is this a JC question or you
guys might note that we've seen before that sort of
lobotomy like thing where they've attached him to become just
this like classic slave worker.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
It looked like sabine knew what it was because she
was the one who said this is like a cybernetic implant.
But the first time I saw was on Lobot and
Empire strikes back. But I would think so, but Sabine
definitely knew because she was the one with her text
savvy is kind of unlocking everything.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But you can add that to the running tally.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, and you understand Rodian of course, because of course
you do. I mean when we get to the tally portion,
like when we get to our recap of season one,
I can't wait for the tally of how many languages,
how many special skills. If Sabine Wren was going on
in auditions and the resume on the back for headshot,
like the special skills, it would be like its own page,
(16:52):
like that's at this point, that's that's the course we're
set on to.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That, and her headshot would be something that she heard herself.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
They're like, wait a minute, this isn't this isn't something
from backstage West what's going on here? So I believe Also,
this is the first time we hear the mention of
Emperor Palpatine in this episode, because they do mention Palpatine
when they're on the hollow Net, and we get again
the Empire propaganda, and we get another mention of Governor Price,
who of course was voiced by Mary Elizabeth. We have
(17:23):
not met Governor Price I don't think we've even seen
Governor Price yet, but this is the second time we've
heard from her. I heard about him. Yeah, And what
I really liked about this episode too because it is
very heavy, but I felt they were very smart. It
was very smart to put in those comedic beats with
Canaan and channeling his inner Bill Walton, or the part
(17:44):
that Vanessa alluded to earlier when I was like, oh,
did you missed me? And then on top of that,
Zeb's like ah, Like I was like, dude, come on,
you didn't have to do that. And then when they're
with Cibo, he just wandering around, he just knocks himself
into the door and falls down, and I was just like, oh, Like,
(18:04):
so it's because without that, it would be a very
depressing and heavy episode. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Heavy, It's like it's really I mean, it's information we
need as an audience.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But I don't know that any.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Of us were prepared for it, you know, just how
deep and how heavy it is.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
How about you as performers, you know, like when you
get this script or when you were about to do this,
like what's what can you recall anything? Of? Like oh wow,
like this is going even deeper like we've dropped breadcrumbs,
but now this is all in front of you, all
risen to the forefront and right in your face, and
you have to like perform and deal with it. So
I'm curious, like what was going through your mind at
that time?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
If you can recall, this was the first episode where
I had that sort of thing. I remember day of
telling us like, we're going to have a few these
episodes where it's going to go to a childhood, and
it was a dark childhood, and I remember being like, oh, well,
then I'll get to like act. I had this sort
of idea that you spoken about before, and this was
the first time I realized, oh no, it's all the same.
(19:04):
I'm doing the same thing that I would if I
was on screen. The only thing is you're not seeing
my face. But then I realized they're using some with
that thing. I know exactly how I would play this
in a show, and it's it's you convey a lot
through We see he doesn't want to share it as
(19:24):
much with words. He's processing these things, and they I
saw that parallel to exactly how I would and what
I was doing when we were there, and I realized, oh,
we approached this the way we do anything, whether we're
on stage, whether it's a three hundred million dollar movie
or it's an indie TV show or at Star Wars Rebels.
(19:46):
You approached the character with what their given circumstances are.
And for me that was a big turning point, Like,
I'm glad you asked that because I forgot about that.
I remember that episode being like, Oh, this is all
the exact same. We're coming in and we're playing this
person's reality.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
How about you, Tia or Vanessa, like any any recollection
of getting this because you're essentially like uncovering a lot
of the mystery box that's been established at this point.
And then this is like I said, it's very heavy,
right in your face. That could literally be an episode
of This Is Us. You know, they give you all
the feels.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Came later, which I'm know too, But I would say
before those episodes where we were really delving into more
emotional or just you know, our characters being in a
more vulnerable place, and especially with Sabine, she just she
(20:40):
doesn't allow herself to be vulnerable or feel emotion. That's
not rage so but I would say that before those episodes,
it was helpful because you know, Dave Filoni would sort
of sit us down, or I'll speak for myself, sit
me down and really talk it through and give me,
(21:01):
give me the information I needed to like to make
it work and to give the best performance I could.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And so I think.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Those chat those the chats were always helpful, but especially
for those episodes that were we needed to be a
little more, be a little more del look it with.
I found those like uh chats to be informative and
helpful and kind of get me in the right head
(21:28):
space to do what I needed to do.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I felt personally, I was intrigued to consider the concept
that one his parents were a sort of part of
the very silent rebellion, if you will, or the building rebellion.
That felt like a confirmation of Harrah's instincts that this
kid should join them. But also this episode seems to
(21:54):
hint that if Sebo knows where his parents are, there's
hope that they can be reunited, and that ultimately I
felt more hope than sorrow because of that. Now we
all know where that lands. However, at least at the
end of this I had hope, but I definitely had
(22:15):
much more compassion for the person who mounts chopper and
is you know, horsing around here and there, or forgetting
to check the fuel gauge, etc. When you start to
understand where people come from, it's not as simple as
it appears initially, and so it was helpful information not
(22:38):
only for me, you know, trying to understand how I
gathered all these people, but how I might be able
to help Ezra form a new family and maybe find
his original family. But it was heavier. I think it
was heavier in the rewatch for me. In the moment,
I felt more hopeful, and in the rewatch I was like, whoa,
this is heavy, especially, like you said, for a kid
(23:00):
to be like yo, I need time to myself Like wow,
remarkable self care and self awareness for a young dude.
Not everyone takes that space to say I'm not ready
to unpack this. I mean, maybe that's more common today,
but I thought that was admirable to have that boundary
that if if that's modeled for kids to do that
(23:21):
in their own lives, I think that's amazing because I
think it is important to take time to process things
and they don't need to be discussed every you know,
five minutes or displayed that everyone deserves that right to privacy,
and I respected the character for taking it in the rewatch.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
That was what struck me.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, and that just goes to show like the real
intelligent writing of the show, because it is the gift
that keeps giving, because you know, there's certain shows or
movies that you can you know how it ends, but
because of where you are personally in terms of your
own personal growth, they may hit you differently. Just like
me watching this now versus twenty fourteen, it's night and day,
Like it's a very different version of me that watched
(24:00):
it in twenty fourteen, unaware what my own mental health
was and I was going through my own personal stuff
and now having you know, being on the path of
being better adjusted and trying to improve each and every day,
you're like, oh wow, Like the themes were there, and
it just goes to show I just to any writers
out there, you don't have to beat people over the
head with it. You don't have to say, hey, this
is a mental health talk. Just be authentic with the
(24:22):
characters and let that performers perform it authentically, and then
whoever it resonates with is what it resonates with. As
long as it comes from a genuine place, that's what matters.
But then as viewers go through their own personal journey,
then they pick out what really is resonating with them personally,
and that's what rebels does. I mean, we're eight episodes in,
I got all this information. But that's the really cool
(24:47):
thing about shows like this, or like a movie like ET,
Like you can watch ET as a child versus ET
as an adult. It's way way, way, way way different.
And one thing I wanted to point out is that
when Sibo reveals Azra was born on an Empire day,
this is going to be something that JAC can pick
up on. This means that technically, and this I guess,
I make him a couple of days older, but he's
(25:07):
the same age as Luke and Lea because we're like
because they were born the same year. Because this is
what fifteen years after the formation of the Empire of
episode three.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
JC dot gov Let's go.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
JC will know. And then they also mention a five
year plan when they get all the intel from Cibo,
and as we know, this is five years before the
Battle of Yeven. So are these are we hinting at
the Death Star plans? Essentially that is in Cibo's brain
and going back to what you said to us about hope,
so we are hinting at a new hope. So it's
all full circle. The circle is complete, as Darth Vader
(25:44):
would say. And one thing that stood out to me
on this rewatch is when that little disc like Azra
has that little disc, it looked like I think Jacon
will know this as well. I feel like that's some
sort of nod to the star or video game or
computer game, or it's just looks like every floppy disc.
(26:04):
But I grew up in the era of floppy disk.
But I feel like if anybody knows j C as
our T shirts say, I don't know if our merchan
is out yet, but eventually our teachers will sagment.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's another good T shirt. If anyone knows j C News, Yes, truly.
There's all kinds of different iterations that.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I'll work for j C News.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, here's one that is prettymature. How many to be
continued episodes did we have? Because that at the end,
I was like, oh, okay, what's that mean? Is it
the whole show to be continued?
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Like the show good point? Good point?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Maybe part one and two of the first episode, or
you know, the first two episodes.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Did they say that at the end of the first
Sparker value to be continued?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
I don't remember they were.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I mean at least they aired back to back in
one evening, so I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
It wasn't our series finale. Wasn't that two parts? I mean,
we'll get there.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We have.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, it's definitely the second time on our rewatch because
I know on the Disney Plus versions it says to
be continued Doctor spark Rebelling Part one, and it says
it on this So I think so far twice what
like Taylor said, And if we're going back to the
genesis of when George Lucas created this, he was inspired
by the action serials from back in the day, which
(27:25):
was always cliffhanger ending. So I think I think you're right.
I think Star Wars or maybe just life in general
is always to be continued?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Is this is now curse? Your question? Is Lobot short
for lobotomy is what they called him that?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Well, you know, who's gonna know.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Throw that flag on the field. I don't know, buddy.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Here's the thing, like who knows more? It's like remember
Bonos in the nineties. It's like, I feel like JC
knows is a new Boos at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I love that added to the march.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
The line along with the Zinger slingers.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Oh that's right, I'd like zeus Zinger slingers. I know
we're waiting to hear I guess the official results from
our audience members. But when you said Zinger slinger I'm like,
that's it.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
That's kind of it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I'm sure someone out there is going to come home
with something infinitely better, but for now, until then, I'm
all with singers.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I remember growing up there was these things, not from Hostess,
but they looked like Twinkies, but they were called zingers.
It's a nineties thing, So that's what I think. I
don't know if they're still around, but if they are,
maybe maybe that's a brain. Yeah, you're giving everybody diabetes. Basically.
That's why that storm Trooper couldn't make it. It's like, oh,
(28:45):
I T.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Two, you know, and it just kind of a real weapon.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Well, I mean that's a whole other discussion we can
go down, considering Empire Day and everything. Uh I and
I also love we don't get a whole lot of
one on one with Zeb and Sabine. We get a
moment here, and I love the whole thing of you
hand him. He's like he'd just like wait now, now now.
(29:12):
And then the way they edited together too, like they
getting closer and closer and closer, and then just the
way that's being casual, like yeah now, but like Zeb
is clearly like panicked, and it's so fun to see
this big hulking guy. Wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on, don.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And and she's cucumber like now yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
And yeah the way through it, that was a funny
thing because the accent he's doing. I was like, oh,
it's rugby. He like most people conventionally you think, would
throw like that. He like under arms, like a rugby
toss up in the air, which I thought was very funny.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
And then he did it again. He kept throwing fireworks.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
We should we should break that down. Remember remember the
late great Kobe had a show called Detail and he
would break down everybody's game tape. Taylor, I feel like
you can break down Zeb's throw.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm no a.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Fan of it because also I know Jay C's got
an eye for it because he saw that as through
something left handed that I picked up early on. You know.
The thing that stands out to me though, when we're
talking about people in the booth, I remember how everyone stood.
I remember people would get into these poses when they
would be on the mic, and it was fun like
Freddy would do two different things depending on what the
(30:23):
scene was, and he would like grab one to his
wrist and every time, like certain people had ways of
going about it. And the guy who played suit Visago,
he would sit down, I think, yeah, which I always
was like, what a gangster.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's right, that's funny. Yeah, there are people who who
sit and those who stand.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Didn't you say Mark Hamill is a sitter of Vanessa?
I remember, I think about that.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
In the regular show he sat, he would read the
paper and then say Selene and then go back.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Talk about gangster. Yeah, yeah, the oh.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
My gosh, what who is the minister?
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Uh? By the way, porcelain skin that guy right, he.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Looks like a Bernard Buffet uh painting? Yes, like whoever
drew him?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, oh, that's literally how Bernard Buffet who
like him and Pacasso at the time, they drew these
very angular faces. You would do all the like circus
artists in France, and I was like, this is identical
to one of those characters.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
We should do a side by side that could be
that could be another social clip, just kind of side
by side of what you're talking about there. And uh
and the Inquisitor who we're talking about, Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Jason Isaacs who you know, he gets more and more
to do as the the the show goes on. But
and and also like the moment that I like to
again like this episode jam packs so much and that's
(31:56):
so amazing to me because this was originally for broadcast
where there are combs breaks and it has to be
written and edited that way where these these break points
are put in. But you pack in so much. It's
a very Ezra heavy episode. But you're getting more and
more of these other characters. And even that moment where
zeb has to choose between he can shoot Agent Kallis
(32:17):
or the Inquisitor, and he has to do the right
thing and go out to the inquisitor because that's for
the to quote Spock from Rathicon, like the needs of
the many outweigh the needs of the few sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And David David Shaughnessy was Commandant Oresco. Is that who
you were talking about me?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know, I was talking about the minister who says, oh,
Governor Price can't be here because she's.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
On where she?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Of course where she? And I think I think that's
the case because that's who I'm talking about. It looked
like Bernard.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh yeah, like he has like the little hat on
and a very long face.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Is that who you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I'm talking about the woman who Oh.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, that's Kats to see sorry, Oh Cats Suc is
the woman, right? I thought you were asking about the
male character, Minister Minister Tua. Yeah, yeah, that's Cats Suc.
Peter mcnicholl was ce Bo.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Well, they both were great. Indeed, they were both fantastic.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
And I love that Dee Bradley Baker was your dad.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh yeah, that was when I did. I was like,
that's d yep.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'll have to go back and when you.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Rewatch that part.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, all the Easter eggs, all the Easter eggs. Okay. Well,
I think that we covered this upisode quite well, and
it's funny how there's so much, but we also like
were able to I think over everything and I think
now without further Ado as always it's time for I
believe our favorite part of the podcast, which is Fact
Tech Fact. Let's just rewind and now it's time once
(33:54):
again for our favorite part of the podcast, our fact
check with our guy JC. What do you got?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right?
Speaker 8 (34:00):
But not a ton I just wanted to mention you guys,
shouted out Devin Hesser at the beginning of the show
during my favorite part of the show, which is John's
clever recap Devin Hester. I went to college with Devin Hester,
so I have to say college football.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
And you're from Chicago too, so you understood. Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Brett Speiner was in episode three and again here. It's
his second appearance in the show that came up briefly
the Deep Dive this week. The Tie Advanced V one
is what we see in this episode. It's the inquisitors
version of the Tie Advanced, the Taie Advance that we
see and that you played video games with as the
(34:41):
X one, which is also known as Darth Vader's Tie Fighter.
Some of the differences the wings of the V one
fold in, which is the only tie fighter that kind
of does that. It also only has the solar panels
on the inside. It's plated with armor on the outside
and the wings fold on that to conserve hangar space.
(35:05):
The X one is referred to in a book by
Dan Wallace, The Rebel Files that was released in twenty
seventeen as the next iteration of the V one. So
Dart Vader sci Fier from a New Hope is the
next version, the new model of what we see in
this episode. Canonically, you guys mentioned Cibo and Lobot. My
(35:29):
pull from the cebo head thing was Echo from Backbatch,
so it's almost like Echo was the precursor to what
they did with Cibo, even though I think timeline wise
it may be a little bit different. Luke and Lea
were born two days after Empire Day, so Ezra's in
(35:50):
facts slightly more than Luke and Lea and Vizago was
played by a person named Keith, And I'm so sorry
about the pronunciation of this last name.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Keith Zara Baca is great.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I love.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Wait, jac did you play college ball?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
I went to University of Miami, though, which was like
the best college football program in the world. While I
was there not to age myself, but yeah, like twenty
seven first round draft picks out of my four years there.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Hey, no, wow, I mean they did have that reputation.
I mean there was nothing like Miami football back in
the day when they were at their miamis just those
Florida colleges in general. You know, now it's definite a
transfer portal and everything, nil deals, but back in those days,
it was. It was something you probably just won't see again.
And there's a great thirty for thirty on it.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
There's two of them. There's the you and the U
part two. I saw Michael Vick's last college football game
at the Orange Bowl. Really yeah, I was. I was
there at a very fun time to be a college
football fan.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Other bear that, I uh, just because we're going to
talk sports that I went to college with is Greg Olsen,
who now does college.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, and what were so obviously everyone knows for our sportsman,
So we were trying to set ourselves up for some
sports activations. So you know, if college football or Super
Bowls or World Series or NBA championships like need our presence, Like,
we're ready. I don't speak of everybody, but I'm pretty
sure our starting five here is ready to.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Be dying for you.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Oh my god, Austin College game day. I'm saying, be
incredible or inside the NBA just so we can hear
Charles byke go. Oh no, no, let me just tell
you some Star Wars levels is not toable. It is great.
It's fantastic, and it's going to be in my tough Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
You know, isn't there a March Madness thing that they
do with Star Wars? Like maybe we get up in
the March Madness thing.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I would love that because I personally like college basketball more.
There's something about college basketball that's just special and student
sections and everything, so I would love that.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Maybe next year.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
I'm just happy you guys are talking about doing like
pregame and postgame. I thought you were like, the five
of us are going to go up in a physical
challenge of basketball game.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Although I wasn't mean forward, but.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, I'm trying to spectatem.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Ll do it.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Taylor still got the young legs. So Taylor still got
the young legs. He's good, h.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I just you don't want to be on my team.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I'll tell you that we'll.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Play together, bringing it back, bringing it back's well, we'll see,
we'll see you all very soon on some of these
UH sports pre and post talk shows. But until then,
thank you once again for listening to Potter Rebellion. Reminder
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it's just time to what Cue the.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Music, Ja the music, Cue the music.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing,
hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Taylor Gray, and John
Lee Brody Executive producer and in house star Wars guru
slash backchecker j C. Reifenberg. Our music was composed by
Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil Fraser
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Kaufman over at iHeart, Evan krascoor At, Willie Morris Endeavor,
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