July 22, 2025 • 52 mins
The Ghost Crew takes some time to answer fan questions this week!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What color Ezra's hair? Is it blue? Is it black?
Is it animated as blue? But its supposed to be black?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
His hair is blue, navy blue.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I always assumed it was blue.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back, everybody to the Potter Rebellion. John Ley Brody here,
you're friendly neighborhood moderator. Now, I know, I know you're
very anxious to get the season two and so are we,
but so many of you have been so supportive and
so sweet sending these emails in we wanted to take
time not just for one, but two episodes where we
answer some of your emails, and of course not here alone.
(00:48):
We have our Captain, our voice of reason, the voice
of Harrison Dula, Miss Menisa Marshall.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello, everybody, we have.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Our jetpack Ambassador, and technically I'm coslaying to start. I'm
gonna explain that because it's appropriate, we're doing a Q
and A. Not only does she have answers, she is
the answer our resident. Allen Iverson.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Hello, y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Can't see, but I'm wearing an Allen Iverson jersey just
for the occasion, just so I could do that intro
shout out to Mitchell and us. You're not sponsoring, but
you could be, you know, but keep us a call.
And of course we have our resident Prodigy, our Scholar
of power, the voice of Bez Bridger, mister Taylor Gray,
(01:37):
whose internet is flitting out right now. But yeah, I
think you heard that. If you didn't, then he'll hear
at the playback.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Are you am frozen again?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We can hear you, but you are frozen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like I like Kristen Bell years ago. Taylor Gray is
frozen right now. But hopefully we can get them back. Look,
it wouldn't be the Potter rebellion. I look, it's things
are happening. And are you back? Did you hear any
of that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's very sweet.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm kidding me now. I saw you raise your jersey
and then I don't know, I don't understand. The internet
is fine, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now you missed a very sweet intro for you, for.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You, which I can do again, because not only do
we have our resident Alan Iverson, we have our resonant prodigy,
the Scholar of power is what I call him, the
voice of metribugery.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Taylor Gray.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh, thank you, see you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm glad you heard it this time.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was like a little bit and rounding out our
starting five is our walking Jedi Temple library, our fact
checker in real time today, mister J. C.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Reifenberg.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I love the fan ones. It's a lot less work
for me. I don't have to like figure stuff out
on the fly.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's just like, yeah, we got a few emails for
JC today for some fact checks. I don't say that yet,
but a little less work. Yes, it is nice to
have you. It's always nice when you're on this side
of it, Jac and you get to join it for
the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
They so furiously taking notes throughout the entire show.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well you still can, I mean, no one's if you
want to feeling, I don't know, Well how is everybody feeling?
And also how how awesome was James Arnold Taylor last week?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Like what enjoy?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was amazing? And like I've seen the show his
one man show in real life at Star Wars celebration
a few times, and yet when he goes from like
voice to voice to voice, it's it's mind boggling to me.
I do not have that ability as an actor. I
(03:44):
cannot do like mimicry like that man, that guy, it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
My favorite was I asked James one time. I was like,
what's it like reading bedtime stories for your daughter? And
he was like, Oh, it's wonderful for her because he
reads the stories and everybody is a different character.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Amazing can a different voice.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
It's like a radio drama bedtime story every night that
could be.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I was amazed by your history, you and me and James.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I didn't know all that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We do a thing with James where it's like, like
you just talked about like radio serials, like a Potter
Rebellion presents, like just James Arnold Taylor doing one man stories. Uh,
we can have some original series within our our Potter
Rebellion umbrella.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I don't know, just just throwing it out there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It happened, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So we got a lot of great questions, a lot
of great emails that came in when we put out
a little call to action on Instagram. And I'm always
just I wasn't surprised because I've seen the love that
the fans have for you all, but it is always
like wow, like they really do come in once we
put out that little call of hey, get your questions,
and all of a sudden, I see the inbox one.
(04:58):
So we're gonna do our best get to every single
one we can today. Everybody they just look. The occupational
hazard is sometimes we can't get to your question. That
does not mean your question or email was not seen.
I just want to make sure that's out there. But
we're going to get to as many as we can
the best we can. So we're going to start out
with someone and named JC, not to be confused with JC.
(05:18):
JC did not send an email in or maybe he did.
Maybe this is a burner account and you just went
You probably could have, you know, used the more incognito alias,
but you know, what are you gonna do? So JC says,
hello there, Potter Rebellion. First, I want to say how
is everyone doing? And how is Everyondnesday? That was kind
of the intro. I just want to say this before
(05:41):
I get to my question. I share the same name
as your fact checker. Now I'm starting to think this
is a burner account.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See he's not doing a very good job.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're like that SNL sketch when the Rock was Superman
and he was doing a really bad job of disguise
in the fact, like that he's Superman.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'd also like to say, I'm from North Illinois, right
by where jac and John grew up.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Funny enough, that was like, oh my god, that's the
next question question. So it makes me feel like I'm
a part of the podcast even though I'm not, which
is a pretty cool feeling. Well, JC slash JC, you
are a part of the podcast now. I have individual
questions for Tia, Taylor, and Vanessa. First up, mister Taylor,
they say, aka space alighten. I know you don't remember
(06:25):
a whole lot about the show, lol, but in your opinion,
what would you say is Azra's best moment?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
His best moment?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, my best moment is I just switched over wifis
I realized I needed to be on the Extension. Now
that I'm on the extension, I think this is a
lot better three of bars. I'm living in the present
as Ezer did. And I think Azra's best moment, Oh
this is sweet was the four minutes into the first
episode when he meets the Rebel crew, because that's the
(06:56):
call to action, that's this adventure. That might be scared
and it's not what he's used to and he doesn't
trust anyone. But I think we overlook how much it
took for him to be like, yeah, okay, I'll go
along with these people. And I think obviously the rest
doesn't happen if he doesn't do that. So I think
that's for sure his best moment. And then the very
(07:18):
very end that's sort of the mirror of that first choice.
And we'll eventually get to that, but for now, I
would say that very first moment, it's like five minutes
into the first episode.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I love that, and shout out to I guess Verizon,
fiber optic Internet or whatever you're on now.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Sometimes you got to get on extensions. Which I'm not
great with technology either.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But you but you're here and that's what matters. So
next one, Tia and she puts this person puts aka
Space da Vinci, which I haven't heard that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh gosh, I have never heard that before.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That is good job.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
J C.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Bernercount over the j oh. It's the course of the series,
we Sabine's hair and armor change. So my question for
you is which version is your favorite.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I have I don't know if I've ever told
this story on this podcast. Stop me if I have,
But I know I've told this, Uh stop not you,
So after season one, Dave Filoni pulled me aside and
he said, so, if we were to change Sabine's hair,
(08:29):
what would you want it to look like? And at
the time, I was so like touched and honored that
he would like be asking me for my input and
my opinion. And it was really just like overwhelmed that
he would even like, you know, care about my input
for that. And so I thought about it and I
was like, okay, okay, so this is what I would do.
(08:50):
And I described this hair to him and he was
like okay, and I thought, oh my god, it's like
is that gonna happen? Oh wow? And then we came
back to record season two and we saw the season
two artwork and it was totally different than Google. But
then season three rolled around, and it's exactly what I
(09:13):
had described today way back when after season one. And
I don't know, I don't know if he'd like had
taken that under advisement and put it in his back pocket,
but that is exactly what I had described. And so
season three, the like ombre kind of lavender hair, kind
of pinkish lavender hair is my favorite. So good if
(09:35):
I could have that hair in real life. I would,
but I don't think I could pull it off like
she does.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, you totally could, totally, yeah, you totally could. That'd
be awesome when we get our hair sponsor well, like
a whole activation for Memorial or Paul Mitchell whoever, whoever
wants to jump on first made the best hair product
person when I love that, And I love that look too,
and I'm glad that Dave came to his senses in
(10:00):
season three and realize that, Yeah, this is the way.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I love all of Sabine's looks lukes, her armor styles,
and her hairstyles, but that one is my fave. And
I also really you know, of course, I appreciate anytime
I meet a Sabine Cuse player in real life and
I get to see like their their own artwork and
their own handy handywork. But every time I see like that,
(10:28):
that Sabine wig or sometimes it's actually the real hair,
I'm like just completely, uh just it's it's the best.
It's the best feeling.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Absolutely, I love that. Thank you for sharing that. I
don't think you have told that story, so I appreciate
you sharing it just now. Yeah, if you had, then
I completely forgot about it, but now it's like turning
a new and rounding it out to Vanessa a space mom,
if the ghost didn't exist, what starfighter or are the
type of ship do you think Hara would pilot?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of course the being right, I mean I happen to
have one right here? Who did Vanessa just become.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Sorry for those of you who are listening and can't
see what I'm unboxing right now, something came in the
mail for me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Did you just get this? Yes? Oh wow, be still
my heart? Oh yeah? Wait?
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Where is she?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Do you even see it? Well? Oh wows? Yeah, I
don't know if she's a you? Yeah? Have you named her? Well?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
I mean it is one hundred grand what it is,
but it was given to me by my friend Tech,
so I might call it the Tech.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh I love that? Yeah, thanks Tech?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Thanks Tech?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, great question, Jac, I love it.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It was so confusing for me.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well next time, big a different alias, Josh.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Dear chet GPT. My name is JC.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Good alias? How about JC? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Chat GPT knows, I guess, so let's just go with it,
all right. Thank you all for your answers to that,
and thank you JC, slash JC. It's getting confusing for
us now too, but what a great way to start
this Q and A with all this confusion. The next
one is from Kyle Strom, who asks how different do
you think rebels basic storyline would have been if if
it had been written and produced after and Or. That
(12:38):
is an interesting question which I feel like JC would
have a lot of insight into, but of course it's
open to the entire group.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, I was just thinking, I wonder what jc's answers.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I R L j C. What do you have to say?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I mean, I don't. I honestly don't think he'd be
all that different. Maybe you get a little bit more
tie in with some of the mon mathma stuff, and
maybe you get a little bit more tie in with
the ISB Imperial Security Bureau type stuff. But I feel like,
again and we've talked about it, like Rebels was kind
of the foundation for the stuff that happens in that
(13:15):
time period in live action, So it's I don't It's
hard for me to say, like if Rebels was building
off of and Or versus and Or building off of Rebels,
or obi Wan building off of Rebels versus Rebels building
off of Obi wan what that would have looked like.
But I also think, you know, tonally, I think, you know,
(13:38):
Rebels is more what like everybody's critique of and Ors, like, oh,
it's great, but it's not Star Wars. The people who
don't like it, right, they're like, it's great, but it's
not Star Wars. There's no Space Wizards, there's it's not swashbuckling,
it's not it doesn't have the the the spirit of
what Star Wars is, which my thing is always like, well,
(13:58):
you do remember that twenty five minutes of a New
Hope is spent in a death Star conference room right
talking about the dissolve of dissolving the Senate. I think
what's interesting is this. I think and Or without Rebels
would be more interesting to see how they would have
done it, because I think that, you know, Rebels set
(14:21):
the stage for that whole idea of like rebel cells
all over the place, and then and Or is, especially
season two, is a show about bringing them together, which
is essentially what ahsoka and they're working towards across your
four seasons. So I don't know, I don't think it
would have changed. Honestly, I don't think it would have
(14:42):
changed and Vanessa. You talked a couple episodes ago about
how they had a they had a ten year plan,
you know, and they kind of knew what they were doing.
So I don't know if it would have changed that much.
I don't think it would have. Maybe a little bit more,
isb a little bit more mon Mathma, I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I have a question for you, and this is maybe
you know, going off on a tangent, but the same people,
the same people who have that critique of and Or
are those would they have that same critique or do
they have that same critique of Rogue one?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Mmmmm, I don't know. I'm not really no, not that honestly,
not really like the people that I can think about
that I've had like one on one conversations, know which
is interesting. And maybe it's just because Rogue one is
bite sized and it wraps up with Darth Vader and
(15:41):
Princess Leiah, and really it's just a physical handoff in
real time to a new hope, so you feel more
connected to that whereas and Or takes place, you know,
five years, four years before. That's a really good question, though, No,
I don't that would be the only explanation for it.
I just it's interesting, right because we talk about like
(16:03):
what do you look for, Like Star Wars is kind
of like there's something for everybody, and and it's neat
that there's you know, if you love the Acolyte, you
can go deep into the Jedi Temple and see what
that's like. And if you love the political taxation of
trade routs, stuff that has no relevance to anything happening
in the real world, you can also you can also
(16:26):
dive into that with and Or and if you just
want to yeah, yeah, And if you want to swashbuckling
good time, you can put on a New Hope or
Rebels or Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I do like Andor. I like and a lot. Actually
I do too.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's like a prestige Star Wars. I don't I know,
because all Star Wars to me is like it's a
prestige property. But like that has that like Oscar bait feel,
if that makes sense. With and Or, you know, when
I watch it, it's just it's I talked with JC
about this before. It's like Star Wars fans of our generation,
and it's like the show that grew up with us,
(17:02):
where it's like Star Wars has kind of remained for
younger audiences to maintain George Lucas's original intention. But and
Or is the one that got to grow up outside
of that and then become more geared towards like the
older demographic.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And I just think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, wah older demographic me, it's a lot of us.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I think younger people. I don't know. I
don't really talk to people about what they like with it,
but I found it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's her name, Denise go Goo Golf. One of the
best actions there is right now. I saw her do
this play that was mind blowing, and I was like,
I got and she hasn't done much film and TV.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was like, oh, well, let's check her out in.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
The Nest Diego Luna helps.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I love Diego.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I've been a fan of him since I was like
a teenager.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And moamen this top three.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Man, he's also so pad passionate about that character and
that project and what they're saying with it. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The first thing I saw Diego in was that movie
The Terminal with Tom Hanks and was directed by Steven Spielberg,
and that was like he just has this energy about him.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite Spielberg movies that doesn't
get talked about a lot because it's Spielberg.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He sets the bar so high.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
When it doesn't hit the marks of the other ones,
people tend to forget about it.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's one of those actors that you can tellly just
brings everything into it, you know, and the three of
you are that as well. But like, and that's that's
something that I see in the three Year performances and anything.
But he's one of those actors I'm like, wow, Like
he really has something extra, Like I hope he gets
opportunities to, you know, do more, and clearly he has,
which is amazing. But but yeah, it's it's great to
(18:46):
see people like that thrive. So I concur with everything.
Next question is from Doug Brooks, and this is an
interesting question. It's just pretty specific to ARC season one,
which is when did each of you figure out that
Golf Travis was an Imperial agent or was it just
a surprise when it was revealed on the show.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Us as people are characters like.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Your cat, like did you find out like you know,
like when did you find out I guess was it
in real time in the booth? I think that's what
this person's asking.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we got our scripts, generally speaking, we got our
scripts for the record for the next record the night
before the recording session. Wouldn't you agree with that? Is that?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, so they it wouldn't be very far in advance,
but it would be like we wouldn't. I don't think
we ever showed up not having the material, except for
I think I told the story a couple of episodes
ago when I recorded the epilogue that was on the
day in the moment, But everything else we would get
(19:52):
our scripts, like you know, within twenty four hours before
the recording session, so we probably would have found out
when we were reading the script.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, that question words, Yeah, your email is nice, but this.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
How did you guys get your scripts? Were they emailed
to you or was it like courier like for for
protection or for like.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Emailed it like password protected. You always had to type
in and I think it had to do with no.
The scripts were always wolf, but the pass code was
something with a wolf too.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think they were like water what are they called
water marked and password protected scripts? But they Yeah, it
was electronic.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Interesting encrypted Star Wars Rebel scripts.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I love that. Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Next question, so you just found out when you got
the script basically, and was that How did that make
you feel though, because at that point they've built it
up that gol Travis. Was this going to be this
ally for the Ghost crew or did you not feel anything?
Were you just like, Okay, well let's just do the
job or was there any sort of emotional attachment or
anything to that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, I think I was like, I love a twist,
So I was like, oh okay, but I don't remember
feeling like. I didn't we sleep over it or anything,
but I do love it. I was like, oh, we're
getting spicy, Okay, it's like, you know, switching things up
and making things interesting. I think I had kind of
(21:19):
a mom reaction.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I was really disappointed in this person, and I was
also worried how it would impact Ezra, and I felt
that it was the kind of bitter medicine that we
needed to receive in real time to understand that you
know this, that's how important this is, and that people
will let us down and they will be double agents
(21:41):
or they will lie to us, and we really can
only trust each other at this point. But it's just
it's just one of those things when you just wish
people would do better. And yet, you know, I think
Hara was on to him sooner than I was, or
at least Visa Vsa the animation, because there were looks
on her face where she was kind of rolling her eyes.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I'm glad that we came out of it closer
as a group.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, And that's a that's a great lesson to pull
out of there, And that's so well articulated best because
sometimes we you know, if you get external help, that's great,
but I think a lot of times the great lesson
is we'll look with it and then that can dictate
what external elements can't help you out, but figure out
what's going on here first. And you know this this
show is a shining example of that, and and the
(22:33):
arc of season one really is a shining example of that.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
So I'm so glad you put it that way.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
M Vanessa. You when you answer a question like that,
you just use nerd fandom for Star Wars, Like it's
so easy for people to say, like for you to
be like, oh, I had a Chewbacca figure and I've
been a huge fan of Star Wars forever, so like, yeah,
that's easy to say, but when you answer a question
where you're like, you know, I was just so disappointed
(22:58):
in this person, Like you speak about Star Wars as
if it's happening like a hundred light years on the
other side of the sun from from where we're at
right now, You're like, this isn't this isn't a story.
I'm just disappointed in this person that exists in this
other other part of space.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I love it, but and I mean, I'm not a mom.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't have any children, but I do I do
care about how the ignorant actions of whether they're characters
or people in real life, how it impacts children, and
how do you explain, you know, people not doing better?
And I guess you know, Like there are a few
moments like that with Ezra where I say, we have hope,
hope that things will get better, and they will, and
(23:47):
I think those are the times that I realize, like
I'm really one, and the same with with Harah in
terms of caring about that stuff and hoping to be
comforting and inspiring to Ezra as someone who holds a
lot of and also to Sabine. But I mean, look
(24:07):
what happened out of that. As is often the case,
you're up against it. How are we going to get
out of this? This person severely disappointed us? And look
at how we came together. Canaan did what Canaan does,
and you know, Sabine killed it. You know, you were like,
I got this right, you know, and then look what happens.
We realized we have faculties that we didn't know we
(24:30):
needed or possessed, and that to me is also so
Star Wars, Like, look at how we came out the
other end of it, stronger and.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Closer as a chosen family.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know. So there's a victory nonetheless, But I know,
in that moment, I really was concerned that it might
break Ezra's heart or because it's also connected to his
family and hearing a message and that his parents were
constantly broadcasting things and that this person was, you know,
in line with his parents.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That can be immensely triggering and distracting.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
And one can either react to that and hide or
get busy and do more, and luckily.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Ezra's built to do that. So I was concerned, but
get busy, do more.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, there's another merch IDEA. Next question is from Evan Anderson.
I don't know, maybe you're related to Kevin J. Anderson,
the Star Wars author who knows. Interesting question from Evan,
what would you guys think of a Star Wars Rebels
animated prequel series that follows the recruitment of Canaan zeb
(25:38):
and Sabine loved the podcast, by the way, grew up
with Rebels. I mean great, I that, Evan. And if
you are related to Kevin J. Anderson, there's some poll
there in the Star Wars universe, so make it happen.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh, you know, I've never even thought about that. That's
not true. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure I thought
about Lake. How did she how did she being you
know what was obviously we know what happened to her
in her past, but like how did this all? Like
how did she join the crew and how did they meet?
(26:11):
And I've thought about those things, but heck, yeah, prequel, Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I got goosebumps when you read that, because they do
those like limited series like every year, right, that's like
three or four episodes, like Tales of the Jedi, Tales
of the Empire, Tales of the Underworld, Tars of the
Tales of Rebels, Tales of the Rebellion, Right, what better
three episode arc than one episode per person? And if
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you wanted to do more, it'd be like how Harrah
got the Ghost and then Harah and Caanaan, Harah and
deb Hara and Sabine, and then you have four seasons
of Harah and Ezra already, which is what we're talking
about now. Whoever's listening, that's the winner for the next
one of those, Like, somebody call Brad Row at Lucasfilm
(27:03):
Animation and be like, we got it. Thanks, Thanks Kevin
j Anderson's brother or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thanks for that question. That was pretty Yeah, that's that's
I mean.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
The John Jackson Miller book A New Dawn dealt with
how Harrah found Canaan, and I loved reading that to
get a sense of well, always the question of their
level of romance or intrigue in that way, like I
see now how they sort of stifled that for the cause,
and it was helpful to read that. It would be
(27:35):
even more interesting to see, you know, how do we
get zeb and Sabine And that would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Haarah, Yeah, where did you find Chopper? Where did where
was zeb Where was he? What was he doing? Questions?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We need the show, we need the show, we need answer. Sorry,
such a good idea, that's such a good idea. I'm
disappointed if it won't happen now.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Yeah, even if it's like a YouTube quickie, I'm just
saying the content anyway, I.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Want more, Evin Anderson, thank you for that. And I
would watch the heck out of that for sure, and
I know many many others would too. And and look,
that's appointment viewing. There's a look at be on brand
because you know, Star Wars is no stranger to prequels,
so it's all right there. Yeah, it's out there.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And nobody write a letter a petition.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Dear Lucasfilmanination. My name is JC, not to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Be confused with JC. Next question comes from I don't
know if it's Janelle or ge. Now, I'm okay if
it's Janelle. If I'm mist pronoun your name, I apologize.
Janelle Staley.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Are you related to Dawn Staley, the greatest college basketball
coach of all time?
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Haley?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I want to say gen l because it makes it
sound like you're from the planet Krypton, the House of Belp.
So anyways, Genelle says, hey, y'all and in parentheses, this
is definitely not one of Taylor's burners. So now you're
suspect Taylor's burner. I just because this next sentence kind
of makes it suspect. I just want to say how
much I love Ezra and Sabine. They are my favorite
(29:25):
Star Wars characters of all time. And I never tire
of educating people on Rebels when they ask who my
favorite character is and don't recognize their names and their question,
they have an interesting question U this. Janelle wanted to
know if Dave Filoni ever talked about the Studio ghibli
inspirations in Star Wars Rebels, which I found the reason
(29:49):
because I love Studio Ghiblie. I love, for instance, Montonok.
I love those films, and when you look at the designs,
you're like, oh, yeah, there's some definite anime inspired stuff.
But Janelle wants and know was that ever articulated to
any of you during recording sessions.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Not that I recall, but I've heard him talk about
that in other interviews. I do remember when we went
up to the ranch before the launch of season four,
I think, and.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We were shown a clip.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Where there are wolves, massive wolves running and I don't
remember exactly, but he had put it to a b
York song and turned sort of the dialogue off.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And he spoke.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
He did nod to those things slightly at that point
when he showed it to us, just to recontextualize that
scene with this music, just as like, I don't know,
just for fun, but I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't think, well, we're recording, we were ever told
any of that? Do you guys remember? Well, firstly, Janelle,
I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Thank you, thanks so much.
That's very kind. I had forgotten about that, Vanessa. The
when he showed us the wolves and said it to
(31:18):
that York song that was really that like game me
goosebumps too. I don't remember. I don't recall, which is
not to say I mean, I think we've established I
have the memory of an amnesiac, so that it's entirely possible.
I remember we talked a lot about Samurai films and
how inspired Dave was and is by Samurai films, and
(31:43):
you guys, am I wrong? Like did he Do we
ever talk about like Miyazaki? I feel like we did
or he did, or am I making that up? Maybe
I'm making that up, Taylor, I feel like you would
remember that.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, there are like slight references all us being.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
He never would make big claims to like this came
from this and this, but I think he was always
referencing it. And I often remember Freddy going like, oh,
that's this, and he's like, yeah, yeah it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is yeah, yeah, Oh that's it in Samurai and he's like, no, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Is awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Next question is from Lauren Stuck, who says, first of all,
Hi guys, my name is Lauren. I've been a fan
of Star Wars Rebels since right before the pandemic started,
and it's been my favorite show ever since. The story
and the characters means so much to me, and I
can't thank you all enough for what you did on
the show and for what you do for the Star
Wars community and for this podcast. I'm a Rebels fanatics,
so I probably have a million questions, but the most
(32:43):
pressing one I'll ask right now is what color Ezro's hair?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Is it blue?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Is it black? Is it animated as blue but as
supposed to be black. I've been trying to figure it
out for five years and I can't with it anymore. Please,
when you please my suffering, I will be eternally grateful.
Love you all, Lauren. Now, I actually do know the
answer to this. I know you do too, JC, because
you're a walking knowledge. But the reason I know the
answer is because you know those books from DK Publishing,
(33:09):
like the Visual Guide to Star Wars. So I have
the Star Wars Rebels one and there is a whole
breakdown of the color of the character's hair, and it
says that as Ro's hair is technically canonically like dark blue.
So it's like if you have like a navy blue
suit and some lights it looks like it's black, and
some lights you can tell it's navy blue.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Wait, his hair is blue, navy blue.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I always assumed it was blue, and there was like
a thing early on because everyone would always go like, oh,
the blueberry or and I think they're referring to his eyes,
but also his hair, and I always thought it was blue,
and also I have these photos of it and it
is blue often. But then to your point, someone was like,
but that isn't blue, It's black right here, And so
then I got all tripped up because I was like,
(33:54):
have I been deluding myself this whole time?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I've known that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It was blue, and so dark navy blue makes no
sense because I've always been just held on to like,
you know, I'm going to own this and stay with blue.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
That's what it is. It's a dark blue.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's crazy star Wars.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
It's Star Wars A why would.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
It not be dark blue?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I guess that's fair. I genuinely until right at this
very moment, I have always thought that, like, okay, ladies
and fellas, if you ever dyed your hair out of
a box like I did when I was in like
junior high, there's there's black, and then there's like blue black.
(34:33):
It's like a blue undertone so that there's no brown
in it. No one's nodding.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yes, I also have dark hair like yours, So if
you die over dark hair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So there's blue black, which is like cool blue undertones,
and then there's like warmer black, like brownish black. So
I just thought that was just letting us know that
he has very black hair that has blue undertones. But
now that I say this out loud, that doesn't make
any sense. So you know what, never mind.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Dude's hair is blue a rich navy blue is what
is basically described as. And the visual guy now here,
here's what. Sorry, gohad jac you're about to say.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I'm just gonna give a little fact check background on
colors in Star Wars again, colors in Star Wars has
been a big thing. Han Solo's jacket on Hawk, the
action figure that Kenner made in the eighties, it was
he's wearing a blue jacket, but when you look at
the jacket in real life, it's brown. And so there's
(35:39):
been this great debate between is Han Solo's Hawk jacket
blue or brown, to the point that when they made
the updated action figure of it, they released two different
versions of it. One figure had a brown coat, one
figure had a blue coat. This is also similar to
a lot of the imperial uniforms, like Grandma of Tarkin's
uniform from A New Hope. People are like, it's all
(36:01):
of green. No, it's gray, No, it's it's alive green,
And a lot of it comes down to like film
stock and color color correct, color grading, all of those things,
which is why there's like green Imperial officer and gray
Imperial officer and like what is it? Actually a lot
(36:22):
of it just comes down to the lights on a
set and the way it's represented any like nothing on
a TV or movie set is like pure white. Right,
It's always like kind of a cream color because when
the film lights hit it, it makes it look pure white.
So again, Ezras Harris just another thing in a long
line of Star Wars color controversy.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I'm glad you brought all that up, JC, because I'm
a big like nerd for color schemes on film, because
you know, I used to work in post production. I
work always really close in my DP when we're coming
up with production design. And when you look at the
color like a Napi blue, dark blue like As' case,
you know, usually that refer some sort of melancholy and
like some sort of untapped depth, which is really what
(37:04):
Ezra is when we first meet him, and that's really
symbolically tying to like his emotional vulnerability and ultimately Jedi
path he's going to be on. And what I also
found interesting was when you look at Sabin's hair, it's
described in that book indigo with the orange tips. Indigo
is another shade of like blue. So look, I wouldn't
(37:26):
put anything past Dave and all the creators of the
show of thinking the color schemes and JC Piggyback and
what you're talking about colors and Star Wars. Right from
the jump, when you look at it, they're establishing that
Ezra and Sabine are really kind of cut from the
same cloth, but in a very subtle way. The fact
that they both have like a different shade of blue
color hair, but those two shades made something different, Like
(37:49):
in Sabine's case, the orange tips are kind of like
the fire rebelliousness or explosiveness, but rooted in the same
tone as Azar, so it's's just a few steps ahead
of embracing the rebelliousness, where as there's a little newer.
So when that question came in, I was like, oh wow, yeah,
I never thought of it that way. But when you
look at it, it's all it's all right there in
(38:10):
plain sight. You just got to know where to look
and what to look for.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You also, I'll echo like, that's there's no way it's
an accident. There's no way that that's just just happened.
It's like, Oh, this looks cool, let's go with this.
I took a lighting class with Joel erin Once upon
a Time at Star Wars celebration, I don't know, in
twenty ten or twelve or something, and in like forty
(38:34):
five minutes with Joel Erin, I learned more about lighting
and color and shadows at a Star Wars convention that
I learned in four years at film school. So there's
no way that that stuff gets on screen with that
kind of genius behind it.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Accidentally, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's I was just thinking as I was listening to
you guys talking about this, that like, this podcast is
wild because like I'm learning about a thing that I
was on myself, and you know, it's been over a
decade since we started that, and have you know, many
years since we finished it, and I'm like learning so
(39:16):
much because it never occurred to me that, like, well,
when you were talking about melancholy, I mean, Sabine carried
a lot of melancholy. She disguised it obviously, like she
tried to anyway, but that that idea that you know,
there's that indigo blue and then you know those fiery
(39:37):
orange tips at the end of her hair, which kind
of represents her like her spunk and her you know,
fighting spirit, I guess, but all of those are things
I don't think I don't recall having considered before. So
thanks guys, and thanks for your question.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, some great questions that come in. Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Next one is from Sophie Kaufman, who wants to say hi.
I just want to start up with saying I'm a
huge fan of the podcast. I listened anytime I can.
I started listening the day after the very first episode air,
which is basically my birthday, March thirteenth. So happy belated
to you, Sophie Kaufman. So I guess the Star Wars
universe gave me a gift. Anyways, please tell Vanessa I
(40:19):
say hi, and that I love her so much. Harah
is in my top three favorite characters, and also that
I'd love to see all the ghost who come to
Calgary or Edmonton Comic Expo. I'd be so grateful and happy.
But now for my question, since we're on the topic
of Harah, I want to know what Vanessa's initial thoughts
and reaction was to sing and getting to know a
new side of hair we hadn't seen before in the
(40:41):
Bad Batch. Personally, I found it super cool and I
was giggling and kicking my feet when I saw chopping
hair together, best you ever. Also, I hope maybe if
I get to meet Vanessa soon and Alberta, I really
want to try to make a Harra cosway and I'd
love to show her.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Okay, so many things to unpack.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Wow, Okay, first I will leave for Alberta today and.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Move in a me.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
When you do your cosplay, you can join the Hara
DM cosplay chain and we can help you sort out
the hair mom pants problem, as well as a clinique
color for lipstick that matches season three. Yeah, I got you,
and yeah, thank you for your for your kind words
(41:30):
and love me some Canada. So yes, bad Batch was
incredible because it was almost, you know, like we're talking
about prequels, and it was interesting to see what her
childhood was like. And I've talked about this on the
podcast before in terms of Hara's evolution. Did she start
out as this upstart, you know? Or was she shy
(41:52):
as a little girl that it makes her journey all
the more remarkable that she became such a strong, iconic character.
So it was fun to figure that out with brad Rao,
who's also been named here. He was very generous and
we did many many takes with more rye loth accent,
(42:14):
less rye loth accent, more moxie, you know, more shy.
We played with all of that, and I wasn't exactly
sure where it would have landed in the edit, And
ultimately I really do love sort of the mixture that
we discovered together to create the richest story of sort
(42:34):
of how she came to care so much about this cause.
So yeah, I was honored to do it, and I
also second the motion to find a prequel for how
Sabine and zeb and the whole gang came together. Similarly,
I think it would be rewarding and very nourishing for
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the soul.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And I'm done.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
Once again.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's like mic every time, every single I love your
answers always because you put so much thought into it,
but it's always like a mic drop moment, and I
always feel like, you remember the movie Old School, Uh,
that part with James Carvell went after.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
And he's like, we have no response. That was perfect.
That's what I feel like every.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Time you get no notes or what's the eighties clap?
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I don't know if that translates on the recording device
we're using here, but.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Anyway, moving on, we'll make it. We'll make it. Uh,
we'll make it. So moving on to the next question,
let me pull it up. You I had it and
then I lost it. This is going great, this is great,
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, It's I'm totally capable,
you know, whatever affirmations I gotta give myself. This person
(43:56):
did have everything, Okay from Varuna Uh he does.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
It was with like a lot of eyes. So that
wasn't just me, that wasn't just my internet collection, or
maybe it was. I've been listening to the podcast since
the first episode and I'm loving rewatching the show along
with you all. Thank you for this. Here's our question.
If Folcolman was calling the shots and Hara was falling,
what was told. Do you all think that she Ahsoka
knew that Ezra was a force user or at least
(44:26):
for sensitive and told Harra to go to lethal trying
to get Ezra and Kanaan to meet I think very
specific question. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
So, because that's why Ahsoka put the kaibash on saving Kanaan,
because it would risk possibly harming Ezra and he was
our hope, right JC am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
But that was later in the hole. No, but she knew.
I think she knew.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I think I wouldn't put why why wouldn't Ahsoka go
on her own?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Because she's gone it? Then why wouldn't she go to Lethal?
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Because I think she had other stuff she had to
handle and I was doing her bidding for her.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
But can I ask, maybe maybe a dumb question, how
how would she know that? How would she know before
any of us had ever met, any of our characters
had ever met that this like you know Scrappy Street
Urchin basically on this remote planet Lothal is for sensitive?
(45:29):
Is there any answer?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
So it's a piggy that My question is do Jedi
always now when Jedi are born?
Speaker 6 (45:38):
No? I can answer that no, because Darth Vader Anakin
didn't know that. An old canon the idea was when
Luke and Leer were being born. Vader, like Anakin, knew
he was going to have a child, but he didn't
know that there was going to be twins, and because
of the chaos involved with the birth and everything, he
(45:59):
didn't And he could sense Luke being born but not Leah.
He knew he had a single child, he didn't know
if they survived or whatever. So when the death star
blew up and people were like Skywalker blew up the
dust Star. That's what triggered Vader of being like Skywalker.
Oh my God, like my kids out there. Further on that,
(46:22):
Princess Leiah's Darth Vader's daughter. Darth Vader's the most powerful
Jedi of all time. They're standing in the same room.
He didn't know that Lea was for Sensitive, he didn't
know that they were related, He didn't know that they
were you know anything. So I don't I think that
you can be in the presence of another Jedi and
not have any idea.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Well, okay, guilty as charged. I think Ahsoka knows everything
all the time. I'm a huge one.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
So forgive my leaping to assume that she would have
a sense that there was something on Lowthal that needed
tending to, but maybe she'd discovered it in real time
as Canaan did. But again, my bias is that you know,
Ahsoka is my high power, So forgive.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Me, I mean, I'll give. I'll put some weight behind
Vanessa's comment, though, which is if Ahsoka is fulcrum and
she's listening to what all of this stuff is going
on in the galaxy and has this prerogative to try
to find the new hope. You're going to be listening
for the guy who always seems to get out of situations.
(47:32):
You're going to be looking and trying to find those
types of the kid who can the human who can
pod race and keeps winning despite the fact that no
other human can do it. You're going to be your goal.
Ahsoka is going to know the types of things that
people who have an affinity for the Force are able
(47:56):
to get away with that a normal person doesn't get
away with as often. So you know, there could be
some level of like, hey, there's a list of eighty
things that I'm hearing of these kids who are doing
these things, go check out lothal h.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Well, it's appropriate you gave that a bit of inside
jac because Veruna wanted to put at the end of
their email also shout out to Jac because wow, all caps,
are you amazing and such a wealth and knowledge. I
visited some Coming bill Ony last September for the first time,
but I hadn't know much about it other than it
was a Star Wars bar in California. Please open one
in Florida, So there you go.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Well, thank you, thank you for visiting. I hope you
had a good time, got to give.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Me, also said, But then then they all said, you
couldn't not just kidding'd be funny. Okay, we're just about
out of time everybody, at least for part one. So
I wanted to end this first part with this really
nice email. There's no question that just there was someone
that's one a really nice message, and I thought it
would be a nice way to end part one of
our Q and A, which is from Mattison who goes
(49:06):
by Maddie and Maddie, thank you for your email, and
this one's for you. Hello Potterbelling Crew. My name is
Mattie and I've been a Star Wars fan since childhood.
I grew up on the original in prequel trilogies. When
Rebels began airan on Disney Xten in twenty fourteen, I
aguarly tuned in as often as possible. I fell in
love with the Ghost crew, watching them embarking their missions
and adventures, their strong bomb with one another, and Canaan's
(49:26):
training of Ezra to become a Jedi. Unfortunately, I eventually
lost touch with the show because my family dropped our
TV provider and we primarily relied on streaming services and
DVDs and Blu rays. Fast forward twenty twenty, after my
family got Disney Plus, I decided to revisit the Star
Wars series, the movies, and the TV shows, especially Rebels,
falling in love with it all over again. Seeing the
Ghost Crew appearing in other Star Wars media like the
(49:48):
Soaka series makes me smile now. Listening to your podcast
with John and JC is something I look forward to
every week. I admire each member of the Ghost creuw individually,
Hair of the CRU's mom friend Sabin with their artistic talent,
and Ezra, one of my favorite characters as someone on
the autism spectrum. I didn't learn about this aspect of
myself until I was a teenager Jedi like Ezra who
(50:10):
discovered their force sensitivity later in life. Hold a special
place in my heart for that reason. May the Force
be with you all.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Wow, that's super super super street.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Thank you, And Maddie was even so like much saying
this isn't for the q and ah, but you know
that I felt it was just so sweet that it
was too good to not be shared. And I'm glad
that we could have your voice be heard here and
thank you for writing them writing anytime, Maddie, that was
so sweet. So with everything, you know, because with everything, look,
(50:46):
we have our pre recording talks and you know, you
look outside, there's there's stuff going on. There's a lot
of positive and a lot of hope out there, and
the people like Maddie are very much displaying that. And
everybody that's from writing in with these very thoughtful questions
and the thoughtful answers all of you give just goes
a show like within us, we all have this sort
of bright light that we can shine upon others. So
(51:08):
I'm glad we got to do that for our listeners
but also for each other. I think I think this
was some good medicine for today. Yes, indeed, but we
are not done. We'll be back next week with more
answers to some of our questions. But until then, Taylor,
you want to say the magic words to the music.
(51:31):
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What color Ezra's hair? Is it blue? Is it black?
Is it animated as blue? But its supposed to be black?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
His hair is blue, navy blue.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I always assumed it was blue.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back, everybody to the Potter Rebellion. John Ley Brody here,
you're friendly neighborhood moderator. Now, I know, I know you're
very anxious to get the season two and so are we,
but so many of you have been so supportive and
so sweet sending these emails in we wanted to take
time not just for one, but two episodes where we
answer some of your emails, and of course not here alone.
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We have our Captain, our voice of reason, the voice
of Harrison Dula, Miss Menisa Marshall.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello, everybody, we have.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Our jetpack Ambassador, and technically I'm coslaying to start. I'm
gonna explain that because it's appropriate, we're doing a Q
and A. Not only does she have answers, she is
the answer our resident. Allen Iverson.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Hello, y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Can't see, but I'm wearing an Allen Iverson jersey just
for the occasion, just so I could do that intro
shout out to Mitchell and us. You're not sponsoring, but
you could be, you know, but keep us a call.
And of course we have our resident Prodigy, our Scholar
of power, the voice of Bez Bridger, mister Taylor Gray,
(01:37):
whose internet is flitting out right now. But yeah, I
think you heard that. If you didn't, then he'll hear
at the playback.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Are you am frozen again?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We can hear you, but you are frozen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like I like Kristen Bell years ago. Taylor Gray is
frozen right now. But hopefully we can get them back. Look,
it wouldn't be the Potter rebellion. I look, it's things
are happening. And are you back? Did you hear any
of that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's very sweet.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm kidding me now. I saw you raise your jersey
and then I don't know, I don't understand. The internet
is fine, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now you missed a very sweet intro for you, for.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You, which I can do again, because not only do
we have our resident Alan Iverson, we have our resonant prodigy,
the Scholar of power is what I call him, the
voice of metribugery.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Taylor Gray.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh, thank you, see you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm glad you heard it this time.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was like a little bit and rounding out our
starting five is our walking Jedi Temple library, our fact
checker in real time today, mister J. C.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Reifenberg.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I love the fan ones. It's a lot less work
for me. I don't have to like figure stuff out
on the fly.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's just like, yeah, we got a few emails for
JC today for some fact checks. I don't say that yet,
but a little less work. Yes, it is nice to
have you. It's always nice when you're on this side
of it, Jac and you get to join it for
the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
They so furiously taking notes throughout the entire show.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well you still can, I mean, no one's if you
want to feeling, I don't know, Well how is everybody feeling?
And also how how awesome was James Arnold Taylor last week?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Like what enjoy?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was amazing? And like I've seen the show his
one man show in real life at Star Wars celebration
a few times, and yet when he goes from like
voice to voice to voice, it's it's mind boggling to me.
I do not have that ability as an actor. I
(03:44):
cannot do like mimicry like that man, that guy, it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
My favorite was I asked James one time. I was like,
what's it like reading bedtime stories for your daughter? And
he was like, Oh, it's wonderful for her because he
reads the stories and everybody is a different character.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Amazing can a different voice.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
It's like a radio drama bedtime story every night that
could be.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I was amazed by your history, you and me and James.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I didn't know all that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We do a thing with James where it's like, like
you just talked about like radio serials, like a Potter
Rebellion presents, like just James Arnold Taylor doing one man stories. Uh,
we can have some original series within our our Potter
Rebellion umbrella.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I don't know, just just throwing it out there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It happened, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So we got a lot of great questions, a lot
of great emails that came in when we put out
a little call to action on Instagram. And I'm always
just I wasn't surprised because I've seen the love that
the fans have for you all, but it is always
like wow, like they really do come in once we
put out that little call of hey, get your questions,
and all of a sudden, I see the inbox one.
(04:58):
So we're gonna do our best get to every single
one we can today. Everybody they just look. The occupational
hazard is sometimes we can't get to your question. That
does not mean your question or email was not seen.
I just want to make sure that's out there. But
we're going to get to as many as we can
the best we can. So we're going to start out
with someone and named JC, not to be confused with JC.
(05:18):
JC did not send an email in or maybe he did.
Maybe this is a burner account and you just went
You probably could have, you know, used the more incognito alias,
but you know, what are you gonna do? So JC says,
hello there, Potter Rebellion. First, I want to say how
is everyone doing? And how is Everyondnesday? That was kind
of the intro. I just want to say this before
(05:41):
I get to my question. I share the same name
as your fact checker. Now I'm starting to think this
is a burner account.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See he's not doing a very good job.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're like that SNL sketch when the Rock was Superman
and he was doing a really bad job of disguise
in the fact, like that he's Superman.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'd also like to say, I'm from North Illinois, right
by where jac and John grew up.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Funny enough, that was like, oh my god, that's the
next question question. So it makes me feel like I'm
a part of the podcast even though I'm not, which
is a pretty cool feeling. Well, JC slash JC, you
are a part of the podcast now. I have individual
questions for Tia, Taylor, and Vanessa. First up, mister Taylor,
they say, aka space alighten. I know you don't remember
(06:25):
a whole lot about the show, lol, but in your opinion,
what would you say is Azra's best moment?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
His best moment?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, my best moment is I just switched over wifis
I realized I needed to be on the Extension. Now
that I'm on the extension, I think this is a
lot better three of bars. I'm living in the present
as Ezer did. And I think Azra's best moment, Oh
this is sweet was the four minutes into the first
episode when he meets the Rebel crew, because that's the
(06:56):
call to action, that's this adventure. That might be scared
and it's not what he's used to and he doesn't
trust anyone. But I think we overlook how much it
took for him to be like, yeah, okay, I'll go
along with these people. And I think obviously the rest
doesn't happen if he doesn't do that. So I think
that's for sure his best moment. And then the very
(07:18):
very end that's sort of the mirror of that first choice.
And we'll eventually get to that, but for now, I
would say that very first moment, it's like five minutes
into the first episode.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I love that, and shout out to I guess Verizon,
fiber optic Internet or whatever you're on now.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Sometimes you got to get on extensions. Which I'm not
great with technology either.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But you but you're here and that's what matters. So
next one, Tia and she puts this person puts aka
Space da Vinci, which I haven't heard that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh gosh, I have never heard that before.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That is good job.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
J C.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Bernercount over the j oh. It's the course of the series,
we Sabine's hair and armor change. So my question for
you is which version is your favorite.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I have I don't know if I've ever told
this story on this podcast. Stop me if I have,
But I know I've told this, Uh stop not you,
So after season one, Dave Filoni pulled me aside and
he said, so, if we were to change Sabine's hair,
(08:29):
what would you want it to look like? And at
the time, I was so like touched and honored that
he would like be asking me for my input and
my opinion. And it was really just like overwhelmed that
he would even like, you know, care about my input
for that. And so I thought about it and I
was like, okay, okay, so this is what I would do.
(08:50):
And I described this hair to him and he was
like okay, and I thought, oh my god, it's like
is that gonna happen? Oh wow? And then we came
back to record season two and we saw the season
two artwork and it was totally different than Google. But
then season three rolled around, and it's exactly what I
(09:13):
had described today way back when after season one. And
I don't know, I don't know if he'd like had
taken that under advisement and put it in his back pocket,
but that is exactly what I had described. And so
season three, the like ombre kind of lavender hair, kind
of pinkish lavender hair is my favorite. So good if
(09:35):
I could have that hair in real life. I would,
but I don't think I could pull it off like
she does.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, you totally could, totally, yeah, you totally could. That'd
be awesome when we get our hair sponsor well, like
a whole activation for Memorial or Paul Mitchell whoever, whoever
wants to jump on first made the best hair product
person when I love that, And I love that look too,
and I'm glad that Dave came to his senses in
(10:00):
season three and realize that, Yeah, this is the way.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I love all of Sabine's looks lukes, her armor styles,
and her hairstyles, but that one is my fave. And
I also really you know, of course, I appreciate anytime
I meet a Sabine Cuse player in real life and
I get to see like their their own artwork and
their own handy handywork. But every time I see like that,
(10:28):
that Sabine wig or sometimes it's actually the real hair,
I'm like just completely, uh just it's it's the best.
It's the best feeling.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Absolutely, I love that. Thank you for sharing that. I
don't think you have told that story, so I appreciate
you sharing it just now. Yeah, if you had, then
I completely forgot about it, but now it's like turning
a new and rounding it out to Vanessa a space mom,
if the ghost didn't exist, what starfighter or are the
type of ship do you think Hara would pilot?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of course the being right, I mean I happen to
have one right here? Who did Vanessa just become.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Sorry for those of you who are listening and can't
see what I'm unboxing right now, something came in the
mail for me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Did you just get this? Yes? Oh wow, be still
my heart? Oh yeah? Wait?
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Where is she?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Do you even see it? Well? Oh wows? Yeah, I
don't know if she's a you? Yeah? Have you named her? Well?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
I mean it is one hundred grand what it is,
but it was given to me by my friend Tech,
so I might call it the Tech.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh I love that? Yeah, thanks Tech?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Thanks Tech?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, great question, Jac, I love it.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It was so confusing for me.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well next time, big a different alias, Josh.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Dear chet GPT. My name is JC.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Good alias? How about JC? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Chat GPT knows, I guess, so let's just go with it,
all right. Thank you all for your answers to that,
and thank you JC, slash JC. It's getting confusing for
us now too, but what a great way to start
this Q and A with all this confusion. The next
one is from Kyle Strom, who asks how different do
you think rebels basic storyline would have been if if
it had been written and produced after and Or. That
(12:38):
is an interesting question which I feel like JC would
have a lot of insight into, but of course it's
open to the entire group.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, I was just thinking, I wonder what jc's answers.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I R L j C. What do you have to say?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I mean, I don't. I honestly don't think he'd be
all that different. Maybe you get a little bit more
tie in with some of the mon mathma stuff, and
maybe you get a little bit more tie in with
the ISB Imperial Security Bureau type stuff. But I feel like,
again and we've talked about it, like Rebels was kind
of the foundation for the stuff that happens in that
(13:15):
time period in live action, So it's I don't It's
hard for me to say, like if Rebels was building
off of and Or versus and Or building off of Rebels,
or obi Wan building off of Rebels versus Rebels building
off of Obi wan what that would have looked like.
But I also think, you know, tonally, I think, you know,
(13:38):
Rebels is more what like everybody's critique of and Ors, like, oh,
it's great, but it's not Star Wars. The people who
don't like it, right, they're like, it's great, but it's
not Star Wars. There's no Space Wizards, there's it's not swashbuckling,
it's not it doesn't have the the the spirit of
what Star Wars is, which my thing is always like, well,
(13:58):
you do remember that twenty five minutes of a New
Hope is spent in a death Star conference room right
talking about the dissolve of dissolving the Senate. I think
what's interesting is this. I think and Or without Rebels
would be more interesting to see how they would have
done it, because I think that, you know, Rebels set
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the stage for that whole idea of like rebel cells
all over the place, and then and Or is, especially
season two, is a show about bringing them together, which
is essentially what ahsoka and they're working towards across your
four seasons. So I don't know, I don't think it
would have changed. Honestly, I don't think it would have
(14:42):
changed and Vanessa. You talked a couple episodes ago about
how they had a they had a ten year plan,
you know, and they kind of knew what they were doing.
So I don't know if it would have changed that much.
I don't think it would have. Maybe a little bit more,
isb a little bit more mon Mathma, I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I have a question for you, and this is maybe
you know, going off on a tangent, but the same people,
the same people who have that critique of and Or
are those would they have that same critique or do
they have that same critique of Rogue one?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Mmmmm, I don't know. I'm not really no, not that honestly,
not really like the people that I can think about
that I've had like one on one conversations, know which
is interesting. And maybe it's just because Rogue one is
bite sized and it wraps up with Darth Vader and
(15:41):
Princess Leiah, and really it's just a physical handoff in
real time to a new hope, so you feel more
connected to that whereas and Or takes place, you know,
five years, four years before. That's a really good question, though, No,
I don't that would be the only explanation for it.
I just it's interesting, right because we talk about like
(16:03):
what do you look for, Like Star Wars is kind
of like there's something for everybody, and and it's neat
that there's you know, if you love the Acolyte, you
can go deep into the Jedi Temple and see what
that's like. And if you love the political taxation of
trade routs, stuff that has no relevance to anything happening
in the real world, you can also you can also
(16:26):
dive into that with and Or and if you just
want to yeah, yeah, And if you want to swashbuckling
good time, you can put on a New Hope or
Rebels or Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I do like Andor. I like and a lot. Actually
I do too.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's like a prestige Star Wars. I don't I know,
because all Star Wars to me is like it's a
prestige property. But like that has that like Oscar bait feel,
if that makes sense. With and Or, you know, when
I watch it, it's just it's I talked with JC
about this before. It's like Star Wars fans of our generation,
and it's like the show that grew up with us,
(17:02):
where it's like Star Wars has kind of remained for
younger audiences to maintain George Lucas's original intention. But and
Or is the one that got to grow up outside
of that and then become more geared towards like the
older demographic.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And I just think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, wah older demographic me, it's a lot of us.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I think younger people. I don't know. I
don't really talk to people about what they like with it,
but I found it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's her name, Denise go Goo Golf. One of the
best actions there is right now. I saw her do
this play that was mind blowing, and I was like,
I got and she hasn't done much film and TV.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was like, oh, well, let's check her out in.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
The Nest Diego Luna helps.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I love Diego.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I've been a fan of him since I was like
a teenager.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And moamen this top three.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Man, he's also so pad passionate about that character and
that project and what they're saying with it. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The first thing I saw Diego in was that movie
The Terminal with Tom Hanks and was directed by Steven Spielberg,
and that was like he just has this energy about him.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite Spielberg movies that doesn't
get talked about a lot because it's Spielberg.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He sets the bar so high.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
When it doesn't hit the marks of the other ones,
people tend to forget about it.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's one of those actors that you can tellly just
brings everything into it, you know, and the three of
you are that as well. But like, and that's that's
something that I see in the three Year performances and anything.
But he's one of those actors I'm like, wow, Like
he really has something extra, Like I hope he gets
opportunities to, you know, do more, and clearly he has,
which is amazing. But but yeah, it's it's great to
(18:46):
see people like that thrive. So I concur with everything.
Next question is from Doug Brooks, and this is an
interesting question. It's just pretty specific to ARC season one,
which is when did each of you figure out that
Golf Travis was an Imperial agent or was it just
a surprise when it was revealed on the show.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Us as people are characters like.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Your cat, like did you find out like you know,
like when did you find out I guess was it
in real time in the booth? I think that's what
this person's asking.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we got our scripts, generally speaking, we got our
scripts for the record for the next record the night
before the recording session. Wouldn't you agree with that? Is that?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, so they it wouldn't be very far in advance,
but it would be like we wouldn't. I don't think
we ever showed up not having the material, except for
I think I told the story a couple of episodes
ago when I recorded the epilogue that was on the
day in the moment, But everything else we would get
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our scripts, like you know, within twenty four hours before
the recording session, so we probably would have found out
when we were reading the script.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, that question words, Yeah, your email is nice, but this.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
How did you guys get your scripts? Were they emailed
to you or was it like courier like for for
protection or for like.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Emailed it like password protected. You always had to type
in and I think it had to do with no.
The scripts were always wolf, but the pass code was
something with a wolf too.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think they were like water what are they called
water marked and password protected scripts? But they Yeah, it
was electronic.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Interesting encrypted Star Wars Rebel scripts.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I love that. Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Next question, so you just found out when you got
the script basically, and was that How did that make
you feel though, because at that point they've built it
up that gol Travis. Was this going to be this
ally for the Ghost crew or did you not feel anything?
Were you just like, Okay, well let's just do the
job or was there any sort of emotional attachment or
anything to that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, I think I was like, I love a twist,
So I was like, oh okay, but I don't remember
feeling like. I didn't we sleep over it or anything,
but I do love it. I was like, oh, we're
getting spicy, Okay, it's like, you know, switching things up
and making things interesting. I think I had kind of
(21:19):
a mom reaction.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I was really disappointed in this person, and I was
also worried how it would impact Ezra, and I felt
that it was the kind of bitter medicine that we
needed to receive in real time to understand that you
know this, that's how important this is, and that people
will let us down and they will be double agents
(21:41):
or they will lie to us, and we really can
only trust each other at this point. But it's just
it's just one of those things when you just wish
people would do better. And yet, you know, I think
Hara was on to him sooner than I was, or
at least Visa Vsa the animation, because there were looks
on her face where she was kind of rolling her eyes.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I'm glad that we came out of it closer
as a group.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, And that's a that's a great lesson to pull
out of there, And that's so well articulated best because
sometimes we you know, if you get external help, that's great,
but I think a lot of times the great lesson
is we'll look with it and then that can dictate
what external elements can't help you out, but figure out
what's going on here first. And you know this this
show is a shining example of that, and and the
(22:33):
arc of season one really is a shining example of that.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
So I'm so glad you put it that way.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
M Vanessa. You when you answer a question like that,
you just use nerd fandom for Star Wars, Like it's
so easy for people to say, like for you to
be like, oh, I had a Chewbacca figure and I've
been a huge fan of Star Wars forever, so like, yeah,
that's easy to say, but when you answer a question
where you're like, you know, I was just so disappointed
(22:58):
in this person, Like you speak about Star Wars as
if it's happening like a hundred light years on the
other side of the sun from from where we're at
right now, You're like, this isn't this isn't a story.
I'm just disappointed in this person that exists in this
other other part of space.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I love it, but and I mean, I'm not a mom.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't have any children, but I do I do
care about how the ignorant actions of whether they're characters
or people in real life, how it impacts children, and
how do you explain, you know, people not doing better?
And I guess you know, Like there are a few
moments like that with Ezra where I say, we have hope,
hope that things will get better, and they will, and
(23:47):
I think those are the times that I realize, like
I'm really one, and the same with with Harah in
terms of caring about that stuff and hoping to be
comforting and inspiring to Ezra as someone who holds a
lot of and also to Sabine. But I mean, look
(24:07):
what happened out of that. As is often the case,
you're up against it. How are we going to get
out of this? This person severely disappointed us? And look
at how we came together. Canaan did what Canaan does,
and you know, Sabine killed it. You know, you were like,
I got this right, you know, and then look what happens.
We realized we have faculties that we didn't know we
(24:30):
needed or possessed, and that to me is also so
Star Wars, Like, look at how we came out the
other end of it, stronger and.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Closer as a chosen family.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know. So there's a victory nonetheless, But I know,
in that moment, I really was concerned that it might
break Ezra's heart or because it's also connected to his
family and hearing a message and that his parents were
constantly broadcasting things and that this person was, you know,
in line with his parents.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That can be immensely triggering and distracting.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
And one can either react to that and hide or
get busy and do more, and luckily.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Ezra's built to do that. So I was concerned, but
get busy, do more.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, there's another merch IDEA. Next question is from Evan Anderson.
I don't know, maybe you're related to Kevin J. Anderson,
the Star Wars author who knows. Interesting question from Evan,
what would you guys think of a Star Wars Rebels
animated prequel series that follows the recruitment of Canaan zeb
(25:38):
and Sabine loved the podcast, by the way, grew up
with Rebels. I mean great, I that, Evan. And if
you are related to Kevin J. Anderson, there's some poll
there in the Star Wars universe, so make it happen.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh, you know, I've never even thought about that. That's
not true. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure I thought
about Lake. How did she how did she being you
know what was obviously we know what happened to her
in her past, but like how did this all? Like
how did she join the crew and how did they meet?
(26:11):
And I've thought about those things, but heck, yeah, prequel, Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I got goosebumps when you read that, because they do
those like limited series like every year, right, that's like
three or four episodes, like Tales of the Jedi, Tales
of the Empire, Tales of the Underworld, Tars of the
Tales of Rebels, Tales of the Rebellion, Right, what better
three episode arc than one episode per person? And if
(26:42):
you wanted to do more, it'd be like how Harrah
got the Ghost and then Harah and Caanaan, Harah and
deb Hara and Sabine, and then you have four seasons
of Harah and Ezra already, which is what we're talking
about now. Whoever's listening, that's the winner for the next
one of those, Like, somebody call Brad Row at Lucasfilm
(27:03):
Animation and be like, we got it. Thanks, Thanks Kevin
j Anderson's brother or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thanks for that question. That was pretty Yeah, that's that's
I mean.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
The John Jackson Miller book A New Dawn dealt with
how Harrah found Canaan, and I loved reading that to
get a sense of well, always the question of their
level of romance or intrigue in that way, like I
see now how they sort of stifled that for the cause,
and it was helpful to read that. It would be
(27:35):
even more interesting to see, you know, how do we
get zeb and Sabine And that would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Haarah, Yeah, where did you find Chopper? Where did where
was zeb Where was he? What was he doing? Questions?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We need the show, we need the show, we need answer. Sorry,
such a good idea, that's such a good idea. I'm
disappointed if it won't happen now.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Yeah, even if it's like a YouTube quickie, I'm just
saying the content anyway, I.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Want more, Evin Anderson, thank you for that. And I
would watch the heck out of that for sure, and
I know many many others would too. And and look,
that's appointment viewing. There's a look at be on brand
because you know, Star Wars is no stranger to prequels,
so it's all right there. Yeah, it's out there.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And nobody write a letter a petition.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Dear Lucasfilmanination. My name is JC, not to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Be confused with JC. Next question comes from I don't
know if it's Janelle or ge. Now, I'm okay if
it's Janelle. If I'm mist pronoun your name, I apologize.
Janelle Staley.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Are you related to Dawn Staley, the greatest college basketball
coach of all time?
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Haley?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I want to say gen l because it makes it
sound like you're from the planet Krypton, the House of Belp.
So anyways, Genelle says, hey, y'all and in parentheses, this
is definitely not one of Taylor's burners. So now you're
suspect Taylor's burner. I just because this next sentence kind
of makes it suspect. I just want to say how
much I love Ezra and Sabine. They are my favorite
(29:25):
Star Wars characters of all time. And I never tire
of educating people on Rebels when they ask who my
favorite character is and don't recognize their names and their question,
they have an interesting question U this. Janelle wanted to
know if Dave Filoni ever talked about the Studio ghibli
inspirations in Star Wars Rebels, which I found the reason
(29:49):
because I love Studio Ghiblie. I love, for instance, Montonok.
I love those films, and when you look at the designs,
you're like, oh, yeah, there's some definite anime inspired stuff.
But Janelle wants and know was that ever articulated to
any of you during recording sessions.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Not that I recall, but I've heard him talk about
that in other interviews. I do remember when we went
up to the ranch before the launch of season four,
I think, and.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We were shown a clip.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Where there are wolves, massive wolves running and I don't
remember exactly, but he had put it to a b
York song and turned sort of the dialogue off.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And he spoke.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
He did nod to those things slightly at that point
when he showed it to us, just to recontextualize that
scene with this music, just as like, I don't know,
just for fun, but I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't think, well, we're recording, we were ever told
any of that? Do you guys remember? Well, firstly, Janelle,
I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Thank you, thanks so much.
That's very kind. I had forgotten about that, Vanessa. The
when he showed us the wolves and said it to
(31:18):
that York song that was really that like game me
goosebumps too. I don't remember. I don't recall, which is
not to say I mean, I think we've established I
have the memory of an amnesiac, so that it's entirely possible.
I remember we talked a lot about Samurai films and
how inspired Dave was and is by Samurai films, and
(31:43):
you guys, am I wrong? Like did he Do we
ever talk about like Miyazaki? I feel like we did
or he did, or am I making that up? Maybe
I'm making that up, Taylor, I feel like you would
remember that.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, there are like slight references all us being.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
He never would make big claims to like this came
from this and this, but I think he was always
referencing it. And I often remember Freddy going like, oh,
that's this, and he's like, yeah, yeah it.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is yeah, yeah, Oh that's it in Samurai and he's like, no, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Is awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Next question is from Lauren Stuck, who says, first of all,
Hi guys, my name is Lauren. I've been a fan
of Star Wars Rebels since right before the pandemic started,
and it's been my favorite show ever since. The story
and the characters means so much to me, and I
can't thank you all enough for what you did on
the show and for what you do for the Star
Wars community and for this podcast. I'm a Rebels fanatics,
so I probably have a million questions, but the most
(32:43):
pressing one I'll ask right now is what color Ezro's hair?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Is it blue?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Is it black? Is it animated as blue but as
supposed to be black. I've been trying to figure it
out for five years and I can't with it anymore. Please,
when you please my suffering, I will be eternally grateful.
Love you all, Lauren. Now, I actually do know the
answer to this. I know you do too, JC, because
you're a walking knowledge. But the reason I know the
answer is because you know those books from DK Publishing,
(33:09):
like the Visual Guide to Star Wars. So I have
the Star Wars Rebels one and there is a whole
breakdown of the color of the character's hair, and it
says that as Ro's hair is technically canonically like dark blue.
So it's like if you have like a navy blue
suit and some lights it looks like it's black, and
some lights you can tell it's navy blue.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Wait, his hair is blue, navy blue.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I always assumed it was blue, and there was like
a thing early on because everyone would always go like, oh,
the blueberry or and I think they're referring to his eyes,
but also his hair, and I always thought it was blue,
and also I have these photos of it and it
is blue often. But then to your point, someone was like,
but that isn't blue, It's black right here, And so
then I got all tripped up because I was like,
(33:54):
have I been deluding myself this whole time?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I've known that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It was blue, and so dark navy blue makes no
sense because I've always been just held on to like,
you know, I'm going to own this and stay with blue.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
That's what it is. It's a dark blue.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's crazy star Wars.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
It's Star Wars A why would.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
It not be dark blue?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I guess that's fair. I genuinely until right at this
very moment, I have always thought that, like, okay, ladies
and fellas, if you ever dyed your hair out of
a box like I did when I was in like
junior high, there's there's black, and then there's like blue black.
(34:33):
It's like a blue undertone so that there's no brown
in it. No one's nodding.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yes, I also have dark hair like yours, So if
you die over dark hair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So there's blue black, which is like cool blue undertones,
and then there's like warmer black, like brownish black. So
I just thought that was just letting us know that
he has very black hair that has blue undertones. But
now that I say this out loud, that doesn't make
any sense. So you know what, never mind.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Dude's hair is blue a rich navy blue is what
is basically described as. And the visual guy now here,
here's what. Sorry, gohad jac you're about to say.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I'm just gonna give a little fact check background on
colors in Star Wars again, colors in Star Wars has
been a big thing. Han Solo's jacket on Hawk, the
action figure that Kenner made in the eighties, it was
he's wearing a blue jacket, but when you look at
the jacket in real life, it's brown. And so there's
(35:39):
been this great debate between is Han Solo's Hawk jacket
blue or brown, to the point that when they made
the updated action figure of it, they released two different
versions of it. One figure had a brown coat, one
figure had a blue coat. This is also similar to
a lot of the imperial uniforms, like Grandma of Tarkin's
uniform from A New Hope. People are like, it's all
(36:01):
of green. No, it's gray, No, it's it's alive green,
And a lot of it comes down to like film
stock and color color correct, color grading, all of those things,
which is why there's like green Imperial officer and gray
Imperial officer and like what is it? Actually a lot
(36:22):
of it just comes down to the lights on a
set and the way it's represented any like nothing on
a TV or movie set is like pure white. Right,
It's always like kind of a cream color because when
the film lights hit it, it makes it look pure white.
So again, Ezras Harris just another thing in a long
line of Star Wars color controversy.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I'm glad you brought all that up, JC, because I'm
a big like nerd for color schemes on film, because
you know, I used to work in post production. I
work always really close in my DP when we're coming
up with production design. And when you look at the
color like a Napi blue, dark blue like As' case,
you know, usually that refer some sort of melancholy and
like some sort of untapped depth, which is really what
(37:04):
Ezra is when we first meet him, and that's really
symbolically tying to like his emotional vulnerability and ultimately Jedi
path he's going to be on. And what I also
found interesting was when you look at Sabin's hair, it's
described in that book indigo with the orange tips. Indigo
is another shade of like blue. So look, I wouldn't
(37:26):
put anything past Dave and all the creators of the
show of thinking the color schemes and JC Piggyback and
what you're talking about colors and Star Wars. Right from
the jump, when you look at it, they're establishing that
Ezra and Sabine are really kind of cut from the
same cloth, but in a very subtle way. The fact
that they both have like a different shade of blue
color hair, but those two shades made something different, Like
(37:49):
in Sabine's case, the orange tips are kind of like
the fire rebelliousness or explosiveness, but rooted in the same
tone as Azar, so it's's just a few steps ahead
of embracing the rebelliousness, where as there's a little newer.
So when that question came in, I was like, oh wow, yeah,
I never thought of it that way. But when you
look at it, it's all it's all right there in
(38:10):
plain sight. You just got to know where to look
and what to look for.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You also, I'll echo like, that's there's no way it's
an accident. There's no way that that's just just happened.
It's like, Oh, this looks cool, let's go with this.
I took a lighting class with Joel erin Once upon
a Time at Star Wars celebration, I don't know, in
twenty ten or twelve or something, and in like forty
(38:34):
five minutes with Joel Erin, I learned more about lighting
and color and shadows at a Star Wars convention that
I learned in four years at film school. So there's
no way that that stuff gets on screen with that
kind of genius behind it.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Accidentally, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's I was just thinking as I was listening to
you guys talking about this, that like, this podcast is
wild because like I'm learning about a thing that I
was on myself, and you know, it's been over a
decade since we started that, and have you know, many
years since we finished it, and I'm like learning so
(39:16):
much because it never occurred to me that, like, well,
when you were talking about melancholy, I mean, Sabine carried
a lot of melancholy. She disguised it obviously, like she
tried to anyway, but that that idea that you know,
there's that indigo blue and then you know those fiery
(39:37):
orange tips at the end of her hair, which kind
of represents her like her spunk and her you know,
fighting spirit, I guess, but all of those are things
I don't think I don't recall having considered before. So
thanks guys, and thanks for your question.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, some great questions that come in. Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Next one is from Sophie Kaufman, who wants to say hi.
I just want to start up with saying I'm a
huge fan of the podcast. I listened anytime I can.
I started listening the day after the very first episode air,
which is basically my birthday, March thirteenth. So happy belated
to you, Sophie Kaufman. So I guess the Star Wars
universe gave me a gift. Anyways, please tell Vanessa I
(40:19):
say hi, and that I love her so much. Harah
is in my top three favorite characters, and also that
I'd love to see all the ghost who come to
Calgary or Edmonton Comic Expo. I'd be so grateful and happy.
But now for my question, since we're on the topic
of Harah, I want to know what Vanessa's initial thoughts
and reaction was to sing and getting to know a
new side of hair we hadn't seen before in the
(40:41):
Bad Batch. Personally, I found it super cool and I
was giggling and kicking my feet when I saw chopping
hair together, best you ever. Also, I hope maybe if
I get to meet Vanessa soon and Alberta, I really
want to try to make a Harra cosway and I'd
love to show her.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Okay, so many things to unpack.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Wow, Okay, first I will leave for Alberta today and.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Move in a me.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
When you do your cosplay, you can join the Hara
DM cosplay chain and we can help you sort out
the hair mom pants problem, as well as a clinique
color for lipstick that matches season three. Yeah, I got you,
and yeah, thank you for your for your kind words
(41:30):
and love me some Canada. So yes, bad Batch was
incredible because it was almost, you know, like we're talking
about prequels, and it was interesting to see what her
childhood was like. And I've talked about this on the
podcast before in terms of Hara's evolution. Did she start
out as this upstart, you know? Or was she shy
(41:52):
as a little girl that it makes her journey all
the more remarkable that she became such a strong, iconic character.
So it was fun to figure that out with brad Rao,
who's also been named here. He was very generous and
we did many many takes with more rye loth accent,
(42:14):
less rye loth accent, more moxie, you know, more shy.
We played with all of that, and I wasn't exactly
sure where it would have landed in the edit, And
ultimately I really do love sort of the mixture that
we discovered together to create the richest story of sort
(42:34):
of how she came to care so much about this cause.
So yeah, I was honored to do it, and I
also second the motion to find a prequel for how
Sabine and zeb and the whole gang came together. Similarly,
I think it would be rewarding and very nourishing for
(42:55):
the soul.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And I'm done.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
Once again.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's like mic every time, every single I love your
answers always because you put so much thought into it,
but it's always like a mic drop moment, and I
always feel like, you remember the movie Old School, Uh,
that part with James Carvell went after.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
And he's like, we have no response. That was perfect.
That's what I feel like every.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Time you get no notes or what's the eighties clap?
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I don't know if that translates on the recording device
we're using here, but.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Anyway, moving on, we'll make it. We'll make it. Uh,
we'll make it. So moving on to the next question,
let me pull it up. You I had it and
then I lost it. This is going great, this is great,
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, It's I'm totally capable,
you know, whatever affirmations I gotta give myself. This person
(43:56):
did have everything, Okay from Varuna Uh he does.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
It was with like a lot of eyes. So that
wasn't just me, that wasn't just my internet collection, or
maybe it was. I've been listening to the podcast since
the first episode and I'm loving rewatching the show along
with you all. Thank you for this. Here's our question.
If Folcolman was calling the shots and Hara was falling,
what was told. Do you all think that she Ahsoka
knew that Ezra was a force user or at least
(44:26):
for sensitive and told Harra to go to lethal trying
to get Ezra and Kanaan to meet I think very
specific question. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
So, because that's why Ahsoka put the kaibash on saving Kanaan,
because it would risk possibly harming Ezra and he was
our hope, right JC am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
But that was later in the hole. No, but she knew.
I think she knew.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I think I wouldn't put why why wouldn't Ahsoka go
on her own?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Because she's gone it? Then why wouldn't she go to Lethal?
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Because I think she had other stuff she had to
handle and I was doing her bidding for her.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
But can I ask, maybe maybe a dumb question, how
how would she know that? How would she know before
any of us had ever met, any of our characters
had ever met that this like you know Scrappy Street
Urchin basically on this remote planet Lothal is for sensitive?
(45:29):
Is there any answer?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
So it's a piggy that My question is do Jedi
always now when Jedi are born?
Speaker 6 (45:38):
No? I can answer that no, because Darth Vader Anakin
didn't know that. An old canon the idea was when
Luke and Leer were being born. Vader, like Anakin, knew
he was going to have a child, but he didn't
know that there was going to be twins, and because
of the chaos involved with the birth and everything, he
(45:59):
didn't And he could sense Luke being born but not Leah.
He knew he had a single child, he didn't know
if they survived or whatever. So when the death star
blew up and people were like Skywalker blew up the
dust Star. That's what triggered Vader of being like Skywalker.
Oh my God, like my kids out there. Further on that,
(46:22):
Princess Leiah's Darth Vader's daughter. Darth Vader's the most powerful
Jedi of all time. They're standing in the same room.
He didn't know that Lea was for Sensitive, he didn't
know that they were related, He didn't know that they
were you know anything. So I don't I think that
you can be in the presence of another Jedi and
not have any idea.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Well, okay, guilty as charged. I think Ahsoka knows everything
all the time. I'm a huge one.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
So forgive my leaping to assume that she would have
a sense that there was something on Lowthal that needed
tending to, but maybe she'd discovered it in real time
as Canaan did. But again, my bias is that you know,
Ahsoka is my high power, So forgive.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Me, I mean, I'll give. I'll put some weight behind
Vanessa's comment, though, which is if Ahsoka is fulcrum and
she's listening to what all of this stuff is going
on in the galaxy and has this prerogative to try
to find the new hope. You're going to be listening
for the guy who always seems to get out of situations.
(47:32):
You're going to be looking and trying to find those
types of the kid who can the human who can
pod race and keeps winning despite the fact that no
other human can do it. You're going to be your goal.
Ahsoka is going to know the types of things that
people who have an affinity for the Force are able
(47:56):
to get away with that a normal person doesn't get
away with as often. So you know, there could be
some level of like, hey, there's a list of eighty
things that I'm hearing of these kids who are doing
these things, go check out lothal h.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Well, it's appropriate you gave that a bit of inside
jac because Veruna wanted to put at the end of
their email also shout out to Jac because wow, all caps,
are you amazing and such a wealth and knowledge. I
visited some Coming bill Ony last September for the first time,
but I hadn't know much about it other than it
was a Star Wars bar in California. Please open one
in Florida, So there you go.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Well, thank you, thank you for visiting. I hope you
had a good time, got to give.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Me, also said, But then then they all said, you
couldn't not just kidding'd be funny. Okay, we're just about
out of time everybody, at least for part one. So
I wanted to end this first part with this really
nice email. There's no question that just there was someone
that's one a really nice message, and I thought it
would be a nice way to end part one of
our Q and A, which is from Mattison who goes
(49:06):
by Maddie and Maddie, thank you for your email, and
this one's for you. Hello Potterbelling Crew. My name is
Mattie and I've been a Star Wars fan since childhood.
I grew up on the original in prequel trilogies. When
Rebels began airan on Disney Xten in twenty fourteen, I
aguarly tuned in as often as possible. I fell in
love with the Ghost crew, watching them embarking their missions
and adventures, their strong bomb with one another, and Canaan's
(49:26):
training of Ezra to become a Jedi. Unfortunately, I eventually
lost touch with the show because my family dropped our
TV provider and we primarily relied on streaming services and
DVDs and Blu rays. Fast forward twenty twenty, after my
family got Disney Plus, I decided to revisit the Star
Wars series, the movies, and the TV shows, especially Rebels,
falling in love with it all over again. Seeing the
Ghost Crew appearing in other Star Wars media like the
(49:48):
Soaka series makes me smile now. Listening to your podcast
with John and JC is something I look forward to
every week. I admire each member of the Ghost creuw individually,
Hair of the CRU's mom friend Sabin with their artistic talent,
and Ezra, one of my favorite characters as someone on
the autism spectrum. I didn't learn about this aspect of
myself until I was a teenager Jedi like Ezra who
(50:10):
discovered their force sensitivity later in life. Hold a special
place in my heart for that reason. May the Force
be with you all.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Wow, that's super super super street.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Thank you, And Maddie was even so like much saying
this isn't for the q and ah, but you know
that I felt it was just so sweet that it
was too good to not be shared. And I'm glad
that we could have your voice be heard here and
thank you for writing them writing anytime, Maddie, that was
so sweet. So with everything, you know, because with everything, look,
(50:46):
we have our pre recording talks and you know, you
look outside, there's there's stuff going on. There's a lot
of positive and a lot of hope out there, and
the people like Maddie are very much displaying that. And
everybody that's from writing in with these very thoughtful questions
and the thoughtful answers all of you give just goes
a show like within us, we all have this sort
of bright light that we can shine upon others. So
(51:08):
I'm glad we got to do that for our listeners
but also for each other. I think I think this
was some good medicine for today. Yes, indeed, but we
are not done. We'll be back next week with more
answers to some of our questions. But until then, Taylor,
you want to say the magic words to the music.
(51:31):
Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing,
Hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Taylor Gray, and John
Ley Brody. Executive producer and in house star wars guru
slash back checker J C. Reifenberg Our music was composed
by Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil
Fraser of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Free
and Aaron Kaufman over at iHeart, Evan Krasco or at
(51:51):
Willie Morrison, Devor Trasy Canobio, George Lucas for creating this
universe we love so much, and of course all of
our amazing listeners. Follow us on Instagram at Potter Rebellion
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