"The Lost Commanders" (S2E3)

Captain Rex is back and Sabine has her new hair! The group talks about these epic moments and many others; and also talk about the fan reactions when it was revealed Rex was back. And are there hair salons in the Star Wars universe??

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of all the crazy Star Wars experiences you know with
fans that we've had. I think that one was at
the top or near the top of like sheer pandemonium
and people just elated, just you know, like a while,
you know, the crowd went wild.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, everybody, it's Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula
Specter two.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to Pod of Rebellion.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Today, I have with me, Hi, everyone, it's Taser Car
voice of Sabine Wren Specter five.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
And with us we have.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
What's up feeling good today? Taylor Gray, Ezra Bridger, spect six.
And we also got.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Me John Lee Brodie. I'm also feeling good and I'm
your friendly neighborhood moderator. And today we are going over
season two, episode three of Star Wars Rebels, titled The
Lost Commanders. Here we go. What's up everyone, How are
you doing? How's a little check in time? As always
before we we we do our thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Good happen to see y'all energized.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Football seasons here. That's probably why we're all feeling good,
because football training camps underway, like preseasons underway, like by
the time this airs, like the regular seasons. Underway like
this is for me, like sports fans, this is like
the best time of year when fall comes around, because
if you're in the baseball the playoffs are underway like
World Series. Then the football season starts, and then basketball
is right around the corner. This is like the sweet

(01:33):
spot of the years. That's my happiest time of year.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm also feeling especially good because I don't know if
any of you guys saw the college rankings, but.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Rankings are so whatever projection.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Texas is ranked number one going into the season.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
We have arguably the best QB.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Who is going to knock on whatod have a very
long and illustrious career, because how could he not? So
you can crap all over my joy, but it's not
going to work.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
I'm not crapping, and I'm just saying it's like, uh
a little.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's like falling in love with a specter, Like it's
just it's it's not real.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
A ranking. What does it mean?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It means that going into the season, Texas is number
one in the country and.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
We will see directly zero and zero.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
All right, you know what, let's just wait till we
have what sixteen days.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
I think they are going to crush though, and.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh well, well, well well I think they're going.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
To crush, but they could also be ranked twenty fifth.
And still, you know what I mean, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I hear what you're saying. I don't agree with what
you're saying. And it feels thrilling that with Sark and
arch manning at the helm we are and like a
d line anyway, we don't have to talk about football
too much. But when I'm feeling especially good going into
this fall sports season, because I have high hopes for

(03:09):
my team, I'll root for them for you.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Thank you well.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Two things I want to say that. One, congrats to
you to your long words. And I know we shared
that on our message threats.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Thank you. I accept your thank you.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
You know, as somebody who only won here by the way,
who has actually played college football, I'm just going to
say that the I don't I don't wear my resume
in my sleep, but I'll just throw that out there
if I have to. It's always exciting when your school
is ranked like that. My alma mater has not been
ranked in the preseason University of Illinois Fighting a Line
I since nineteen ninety. We are ranked number twelve and

(03:45):
the coaches.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's very exciting in the coaches.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Poll, in the AP and the coaches poll, we have
been ranked in the preseason since nineteen ninety when I
was that that was from the Hayday of the Fighting
A Lina so.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And that's very exciting.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Congrats, John, weren't you Taylor's losing his mind over there
in the Rose Bowl the Vick Young Vince Young sorr
the greatest college football game of all time, the one
that Wasn't that the two of you was not.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay? Then I'm thinking of a different The last time.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
We were at the Rose Bowl was right after I
graduated and we got spanked by USC.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And the Rose we spanked him back for you.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I appreciate that, but.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Uh, game, it's interesting word for it.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
But well again, as the only college football player when
you just keep growing.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Rough start today, you were feeling so good and then
you know.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
There's nothing There's nothing wrong with the little school spirit,
even if you're removed. However, many years from your alma mater,
I I still wrote for my school every year. But
it's it's an exciting time of year.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
This way of calling me old John dig we.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Are the same age. Okay, so let's put that the rest.
And also, I'm gonna put this out there if somehow
Texas and Illinois meet for the national championship, we're in
a bowl game, and I'm gonna.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Put a call out that's out there.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Listen, Hayter, I'm gonna mute your microphone again. As the
only former college football player here. No, I'm going to
say this if we meet in the bowl game, and
this is a call out to varsity, I who has
been great about alumni, former student athletes coming back varsity,
can you hook us up with tickets? If the only
place Texas, I'm going to find us a way to
get there anyway. But if Marcity I hook us up,

(05:31):
which usually they do. They invited me back every for
every home game down to Champagne Arbana. You never know.
So I'm just going to put.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That out there out there in the East and guess what,
We're gonna have four tickets exactly.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
We're gonna have everybody, the entire pot of rebellion crews
come in. And also, Taylor, it's fun you say ranking
to me, nothing, I'm looking at ranking here for most
beloved Star Wars characters and you know who's number one
as a bridger.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Are you serious?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, I want to I was gonna say.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
That would be I wouldn't believe it would be nothing, but.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
You know he's probably his top ten. Looked at I'm no.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I mean, I'll just bring this up now. So I
was going to say this later. And there's always like
an odd question I have or an odd proposition. Jace
can look at this further. I was at a convention
this last weekend. This is airing later, but someone had
come up to me and then we just ended up
having a long conversation and they had proposed this thought
that kind of blew my mind that I've never thought of,
and it relates to all of us, and also Steve

(06:30):
and Freddie Well, they were saying, in all of Star Wars,
because we're canon and everything, we're going to have spoken
more lines than almost any other characters in the entire
Star Wars universe.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
And they told me, so, Jace can look it up.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
That Han solo across every movie everything, because you think
a movie is two hours long, has said one thousand
and like thirty lines or something. If we did eighty episodes,
and we were saying a lot of stuff. They were like,
you said, way more than a thousand lines, right, like
we've you know what I mean, six so exactly like

(07:09):
that would be maybe the most like Ahsoka. But then
in that realm of not a ranking thing, but like
if you think of the entire universe, all of the
galaxy of Star Wars, we've said some of the most
people have lived with these characters, almost more than you
know what I mean, because the movie is a short
and our our episodes aren't long, but we did so

(07:31):
many of them.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I don't know the way they posed it.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
They were telling me the math of it, and I
was like, wait, that's nuts as far as like a
role in the universe, because I'm always saying like I
feel like a small pebble and this giant thing and
we are. But then when they were posting this, I
was like, oh, that's crazy, Like I can feel where
a sense of like ownership of characters in the galaxy
they would feel over some of the rebels.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
I don't know. It was really interesting.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
You can't look into the numbers of it all, but
the way they explained it, I was like, I think
you're right.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Hmmm.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
I never thought of that that's really cool, and I
buy it. That sounds right to me.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean, JC, if that's wrong, just don't don't tell
us the amount of hang ons I've said.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I think that alone hang.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
On gets you there in the ranking, the rankings, the rankings.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
That matters so much. I don't know, I'll mute myself.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
You're like your own Tony reality, like on around the horn,
like you have to mute yourself on your own comments. No,
but uh no, I think we're off to a great start.
And I guess we should probably go over the episode,
or we can just talk football all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But let's go over the episode.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Let's go all right, here we go, everybody, We're gonna
go over Season two, episode three, The Lost Commander's original
air date October fourteenth, twenty fifteen. Here we go. The
Ghost crew and Phoenix Squadron are a bit wounded befar
from down, but they are in need of finding a
viable place to set up a new base, and lucky
for them, Ahsoka knows a guy in the Selux system.
Upon I'm reaching sea, the Ghost suffers some damage and

(09:01):
it's basically all Chopper's fault. Hair stays back with the
ship as Canaan as resippens to being with their epic
new hair color, take the Phantom to track down the
ssterious ally of a Soca. But the crew definding is
an old guard of three older gentlemen. But instead of
gold frankets, that's a murr. These three wise men carry
battle tested judgment, a mobile fortress and coordinates for where
to hide next. And the answer to the name is Wolf,

(09:22):
Gregor and Rex, and they're all clones. Canaan is not thrilled,
and this causes his PTSD and betrayal trauma to rise
to the forefront, making them feel like this was the
wrong day to cancel his Talkspace of friction not our sponsor,
but you could be. Tenches are rather high, with neither
side unsure what to do, but like the NBC game show,
Gregor says, let's make a deal. The old retired clones

(09:43):
will help the Ghost crew with the list of possible
bases if they help them catch their food supply in
the form of a Jupa. Za bets up being used
as live bait attacking that Quentin Jaws would be very
proud of, and despite the size of the jupa, this
group does not need a bigger boat. Their teamwork. They
take down the Jupa and even invite the Ghost Crew
in diligent and meal afterwards, but the celebrations cut short
on Sabine discovered someone readed them out to the Empire.

(10:05):
As the group wonders how this could have happened. Like
the two thousand and four Usher song, this moment it's
Wolf's confession. He really reveals it was him and he
did out of a panic, and he takes full accountability.
The group then scrambled to try and stop pro Droid
with the loosiveness of nineties Barry Sanders. The group is
ultimately the Droid. It's ultimately taken down, but everyone knows
the damage is done because now the Empire knows their
exact location and thanks to the pro drawing, the Phantom

(10:27):
is too damaged to fly. It's only a matter of
time before the Empire arrives. The don't need a prep
for battle and fix the Phantom quickly, which means that
jupid dinner party will have to wait. And that's the
recap for season two, episode three, The Lost Commanders all right,
going well done as a episode. Yeah, they episode I

(10:48):
love that we talked to D before doing this because
it kind of informed more of the behind the scenes
stuff and the high and the why, and it made
me appreciate the episode more just hearing D side the stuff.
How about you?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh definitely yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I for some reason, Freddy really hit me in this
episode from his that one line. I think Ezra says like, well,
what does that mean? And he says, I have no idea,
as he's it's another classic Canaan line. I don't know why,
but to go into his trigger and his pain a

(11:25):
bit more in this episode with his lack of trust,
I thought was I mean, the episode was light and
fun and kind of like, I don't know, it was weird,
like they had like a hippie van, you know, with
the lanterns and the wing shines like they're freckled chests,
you know, just like the old surfer dudes or something.
But there when Rex says we all had a choice,

(11:50):
that was you know, I love seeing reconciliation and healing
in these things. It really means a lot to see
that example, you know. Anyway, I don't know, did that
guy did that strike you guys as well?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Or yes?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I agree John that, like you know, I I feel
like we get to see D often, not as often
as I'd like, but you know often, and so we
do talk, you know, when we all get together.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
We all uh uh, the two.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Of us and D and got together for dinner a
few weeks ago, and you know, we do talk about
we talked shop, but not in the in depth like
we got to with him when he was on the show.
And so it's you know, it's it's fun to now
watch these this episode and then the next episode having
had that conversation and really getting to hear.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I mean, I could I could listen to D.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I just want D to like tell me about stuff,
you know, just what do you think about stuff, like
any kind of stuff. He's so insightful and thoughtful and
you know, empathetic and he's just the best.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I could.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I could go on and on. I did, I think
last episode. But so yeah, it's it's it was even
more fun to watch. I'm always thrilled to watch characters
that D voices, but to hear like you know, how
the sausage is made from D and then getting to
watch it now is it's a it's a treat. I

(13:24):
have a potentially dumb question Taylor don't say anything.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Surprised.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So when okay, when Ahsoka at the top of the
of the episode, when Ahsoka is talking about her friend
in this ce Lo system and that that Caanan should
trust him or we should trust him, did everyone watching?

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I almost kept writing.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Did everyone? Did most people know who she was talking about?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, did j C? What did you know who she
was I met? Or was that a surprise to everyone?
Because it was a surprise to me obviously, And uh,
I was just curious. I like that if any of
that was like a clue that people that who are
in the know would.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Have known who she was talking about. Okay, but anyway
I wished, I wish it were the case.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
But I was like, no way, yeah, okay, so that
when it prized came Yeah, when it came true, I
was like sobbing.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Just okay, okay, thrilled. Yeah, I will say it was
really hard to.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
It was. It was.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
It was emotional when Canaan kind of breaks down talking
about Order sixty six, And I think some of that is, like,
I know, we talk about how like our characters we are,
or how I feel that way about y'all. And y'all
your characters. But I think some of that is Canaan
and Canaan's strength, and some of it is Freddy and
Freddy's strength and stoicism, and you know, he doesn't allow

(15:03):
himself to be vulnerable at least, you know, maybe with Taylor,
but not with with the rest of us. And so
part of my feeling like, oh, you know a bit
the klunt at that moment is is yes, Kanaan and
the character, but also hearing Freddy go there and you know,
I don't know, it was moving, it was poignant.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's the first thing that struck me.
In addition to, of course D, I apologize. Your question
was what was it like to have D, you know,
tell I'm sorry after no, I mean, and I went
straight to Freddy without acknowledging D. I will say one
thing that D had said that was interesting to watch
the episode, and the context of what he had said
was that he worried that Gregor's you know, Gregor's laugh

(15:47):
was too much, or it might not work, or they
needed him to age in a certain way. So in
watching it this time, before you know, reviewing it, I
watched it again with that in mind. And it was no,
you have nothing to worry about. How it worked great,
you know, and once again like how many characters did
he play? By the way, like the Imperial Officer, he's
you know, Wolf is talking to him. He's talking to D.

(16:11):
Isn't anyway? Yes, I'm blown away by the d thing.
And then to circle back to Freddy again that just
really hit me as well.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
So anyway, it.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Was cool going off of the conversation with D. I
wrote Gregor was my favorite of all of them. It
also makes me understand why clones are such a bad shot.
I was like, these are the guys under the elements.
Of course they can't hit anything, but I thought they
were just clones.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Aren't bad shots? Right? Stormtroopers are bad shots?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think it's Stormtroopers, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
J C.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Geez, he's gonna go I'm about to help myself. Are
they not the same thing?

Speaker 8 (16:53):
No?

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Because I remember he throws shehad's like you're gonna be
in the next episode or jumping ahead, and he's like,
you're gonna need more than the snow Stormtroopers because they
got well to drop now. And then they brought in
the newer mindels.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay, hang talking with D.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
When we were talking with D and jac I asked
that question, like how are they all made the same,
and he said they're all from Boba Fette, and I
was like, oh, they're all Mandalorians. He's referring to clone
troopers and stormtroopers are not clone troopers. Yeah, right right,

(17:30):
Steve Bloom knows all the like you know, uh.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
What you know, Steve. You know they're always like falling
off a building or some stupid thing, and and.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
All questions now, and all the.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Clones have an Australian accent and sound like d because
they're they're that genre.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
When these clones one, they reminded me of like Vets.
I got a big sense of like, uh, which is cool,
like in a sense of mirroring our world in a way.
It felt like Vets after the war, and I thought
it was cool and like representative of that. But also
when they say they remove their chips, stormtroopers can't remove

(18:10):
their chips, they don't have a chip, but clone troopers
can because these guys are like we removed our chips
when freddie or when Kingan's going back and forth like
why do we trust them or how can we trust them,
and he says that they've done that. That's something where
all Clone troopers have a chip in them.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I believe they are genetically engineered and they could control.
They put the chip in there to ultimately destroy the
Jedis and stormtroopers are voluntary. John Boyega's character was like, Oh,
I guess I'll volunteer for this, or I guess I'm
being forced to join the Imperial Army. They're not genetic creations.

(18:47):
There are people who are recruited into I believe that
is the case.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And also is it an Australian or a New Zealand accent?
I could be wrong on the exact kind. JC is
literally going to have to do a dissertation today.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
We need a separate podcast episode for jay Z to
fact check us this time.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Do you know how many troopers there are?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
A lot that's sort of a riot trooper, a clone commando,
scout trooper.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Scout trooper. Troopers have those cool like screen masks.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Yeah right, or those apers anyway, but Storm, since now
we're on this a bit of a tangent, stormtroopers are
not clones.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Of each other.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, okay, you got me. No, I'm saying the Clones. No, no,
I know, I just meant like Taylor just had conflated
these these people clones and stormtroopers.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But clones are all troopers were troopers.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
All troopers are troopers.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
But they're not not all troopers are. Clones are stormtroopers?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Got you? Got you? But if you're from the plants, gotcha?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh boy?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh? I have I have a question for Jason for JC.
I'm so sorry JC in advanced man. I'm curious to
know if and maybe y'all know this probably not Taylor, though,
Does the Clones like that steampunk walker ship HiPE whatever

(20:32):
that is. Does it have a name, because it's got
so much personality and I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I was curious if it has a name.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
I just know it's an A T T E. But
I'm sure j C you have more information on the technicalities.
Or is it AT too. I don't know. I know
Jac likes ad AT. I don't know if there's another one.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Doesn't have as nice of a ring to it.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
The at To versus the ad Ads is going to
be the next one. I don't know. Like we'll let
JC decide what what the canonical pronunciations and Vanessa, you're
absolutely right about the chips that that was like a
control thing where that's why Ords sixty six was what
it was because the Troop Nose Clone Trip present no choice.
It like set something off in their brains where they
had to kill the Jedi, which is made me appreciate

(21:15):
episode three more like Clone Wars and Rebels are the
reason why episode three Revenge of This is my favorite
one because it's like all the layering that this show
did and Clone Wars did. Yeah, like the episode three
hits so much differently when you have all that context.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
You know, absolutely I feel like also and not you know,
not to get into anything specific about.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
What's happening in the world, but it was a powerful
reminder that like, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
How do I add trying to be.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Diplomatic, but I that it's okay not to follow unlawful orders,
you know, or that it is that it is noble
even to disobey unlawful orders or uh anyway, that we
don't have to get too far into that, but you know, there's.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
A lot going on in the world.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
And hearing him say like that, no, we we removed
our chips so that we didn't turn on our fellow
soldiers or you know, the Jedi that we were fighting
with alongside, right and so. And then he says, what
is it this? It's this episode. He says, you always,
we always have a choice exactly. Hit me hard, huge, Yeah,

(22:36):
And I thought I thought that was really powerful.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I got chills. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Same.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
It goes into the why Star Wars. I feel like
it's always just so timeless. You know, the messaging you know,
may have been made it a certain year, but it's
relevant now more than ever, and it probably you know,
will be years from now too. But it's the whole
thing of when you go against the majority, it's a
scary thing, but when you know it's the right thing
to do, the right thing to do doesn't always feel right.
And that's basically what Rex is alluding to, what you

(23:04):
just brought up. So that's very important to remember, especially
in times like the curtain. So I'm glad that's being
brought up, Tay. I like that you brought up like
the three guys, like these vets. I think of because
I love Western movies and I love Samurai movies, which,
of course Star Wars is very much derived from those things.
So I thought of some samurai, kind of the hidden

(23:25):
away samurai, you know, for the quiet life, but then
they got to rise up and defend the townspeople. Or
I thought of Shane, where Shane was this guy who
was just trying to get away from it all, but
then he's got like one more thing to do, which
Joe is very indicative of, you know, Rex, Gregor and
Wolf here, it's like they got away for the quiet life.
And also, and I just want to say that this
is one of those episodes where I wish you could

(23:46):
have watched it with a crowd and a theater, just
like when that Spider Man movie came on they brought
back Toby and Andrew Garfield. How the theater went crazy
when Rex appears. Like that's a moment where you know
that if this was in a movie theater, Oh, people
to have gone absolutely bonkers, like seeing those three show up.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Yeah, perfect up right at what celebration?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, get to watch it with it was in it
It was in a theater, but just the trailer which
showed Rex right, oh man.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I was of all the crazy Star Wars experiences you
know with fans that we've had, I think that one
was at the top or near the top of like
sheer pandemonium, and people just.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Elated, just you know, like a while. You know, the
crowd went wild.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It was it was almost like their college team number
one of the rankings.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
And that's time. I just lightsabers and they were all
orange and they're throwingoking.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
We were all sitting in a row and I I
remember they said we're going to play the trailer. So
we all went to the edge of the stage, the
Fauna stage, and turned around and we're looking up I
remember on the stage and looking up and watching it,
and the crowd behind us just freaking out. And then
we all got up after it and everyone was just like,

(25:09):
you know, it was it was electric.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
It was insane. It's a really cool moment. Yeah, you're right, John,
that is exactly what is Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
I wonder if there's footage of that. Do you think
there's footage of that anywhere?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah? Yeah, probably Actually, Yeah, I wonder if anyone listening
right now was there and maybe like has a clip
of that on their cell phones, we may you could
potentially share with us.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I have yet another question for Jason.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
We're gonna.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm going to send him like a Postmates card just
for the stress of this, just to like medicate with food.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
The number five seven sixty five.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Uh, I feel like that's significant, and I don't I
can't lock onto.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I mean, Taylor, I believe that's the code that you
used to say.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, I can also write a dissertation now in Clone
Wars and storm Troopers.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I read up on it right now.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Oh good, I'm glad you were very good engaged and
listening to our conversation.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
I needed to because I was realizing I also messed
up with Jango Fett, not Boba Fet.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Correct myself, jac.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I mean, I know that's isn't that his old Trooper number?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I get that quite literally, that's what that code. But
I feel like there's something else with it that I
could not I just felt like, oh, j C, you'll know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Totally, because nothing's my accident. In the Star Wars universe,
like every number has significance, like May.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
May sixty five, there's not much.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Should let the.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Voting Rights actors passing the US love that, Yeah, Malcolm
X died on Oh okay, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
I don't know, but yeah, jac another one.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Should we just let I mean I feel like he's
got a whole lot on his plate. Do we just
hand it off?

Speaker 6 (27:02):
How about the.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah? So what yeah, here's another like what would a
jup but taste like like because it seems like I'm good, well,
I don't know, like these clones seem to really like it.
So what what what? What is the.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Like like eel, yeah, that's going to.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Have They got some sort of I know, Sammon, crab roll,
you know.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Anyone who's not thanks, I got That's what it was.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Uh, you would alluded to Vanessa D's like wisdom and
I think a lot about about I'll think about that
quite a bit, just all the knowledge and just his
I love his philosophy and life. But Hara brings them too,
like right out of the pages of like Plato and
Aristotle by telling Kane we can't help I can't help
others unless we help ourselves first, which it's a one line,

(28:01):
but it's like it's enough for him to be like,
yeah you're right without him to say yeah you're right.
But again, it's one of those lines in Star Wars
and just in media in general, you're like, oh, that's
a very valid statement. You know, just as much as
like put your auction mask on first before you help others.
I wanted to like touch on that because I felt
like hair a little bit, you know, just drops these

(28:22):
little nuggets. But I feel like that's like the moral compossite.
That's almost like the thesis of this episode is help
yourself so you can help others.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oftentimes I would listen to the sound of my voice
in this episode, I'd be like, I do not remember
saying that at all, And how did I, like, of
all the choices in the world, why that one like
not doubting it, but just like, well, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean, we must have just been.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So in the flow and the vibe of our crew
and whatever else that there were a lot of highs
and lows and shades and per of wisdom and I
mean and Zeb by the way, Zeb dude.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Zeb covered in like Jupus spit. That was some next level.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I I also felt that he was quite memorable in
this episode in Sadin your hair, your hair, Yeah, really
truly had some very special moments in this episode.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, she's so cool.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, her armor redesigned too, because Vader hit me with
the because he deflected the blast and it got her helmets,
so she redid her helmet and her armor too, her
whole things out.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Of wait, is that why?

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Remember in the last episode, because she tries to shoot
at Vader, he deflexed with his lightsaber, it hits her
helmet and it actually damages it. Oh, so that's why,
like she gets the whole redesign in her armor too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't know if I've ever realized that, thank you
as really I should have.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yeah, there's one you don't need, JC, I got that
one for you.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
So way to make lemonade out of lemonade. Lemonades.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
You saying I love that, I'm.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Saying node lemonade.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
You guys know what I meant. Anyway, she's the coolest.
That's I stand by that statement.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Let's talk about ZEB because I love his his and
I wish we had Steve here to talk about this too,
because it just seemed like you could feel like he
was having fun with Zeb this episode. And I was
having fun watching Zeb this episode. But you know, it
was very Jaws, and De alluded to that in our
conversation with him. Instead of the barrels, we're using Zeb
as like our barrel basically, and Jaws is one of
my favorite movies of all time. And Spielberg is you know,

(30:48):
Spielberg is amazing. But I love the thing about it
was afterwards voice like I was in that things mo, no, no.
But then when he gets that positive reinforcement, he's like, yeah,
you know, actually it wasn't that bad. Yeah, I lovely.
We see this side of Zeb of Yeah, he is
the tough guy. He is the muscle, he can he
can clean house when he needs to, but he's also

(31:08):
that person who does want that validation. And it reminds
me a lot of Shaquille O'Neil. Like Shak's this big guy,
but Shack grew up with a military father and he's
very much like he wants orders. And Phil Jackson used
to talk about this. He said, I had to let
Kobe kind of be Kobe and be independent. But I
knew Shack even though he was the biggest guy on
the team, he liked me to give more of like

(31:31):
a discipline regiment. He liked taking orders. She was very yes,
sir and no ser sort of guy. I see that
with Zeb, Like he is a guy who can kind
of be a free flowing maverick, but he also is
someone who really likes that sort of regiment. He likes
that those sort of boundaries, And I just thought that
was this really displayed that really well.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, Stee, You're right.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Steve did seem like he was having like it was
especially fun for him this episode.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
He was He's the best.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Yeah, just a fun activity to fishing in Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I love when they bring it, is like when I
asked about brushing their teeth, Like do they ever go
to the bathroom?

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Like?

Speaker 6 (32:13):
I like when they bring in very quotitian things.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I love fishing, and I'm just I think it's fun
that they had the like a laser line. I could
use one of those, feeling the line breaks way too often.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
The animation was incredible. The line was so vivid, and
even the glow of things later, you know when they're
all before Sabine finds that the Imperial you know that
we've been compromised in some way or you guys were compromised.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
But the glow of the.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Lanterns and just the vibe of it, and even the sound,
like I said, with the wind chimes there, it really
created a whole environment that was very much like a
ship at sea in this desert, but of course it's
on sand. But I just it was so interesting and
I do think that that ship had a personality for sure.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, like a coper. Yeah exactly, Vanessa.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
You said earlier, like, oh, like the freckles on their
chest and I was like, yeah, like I noticed it
on was it Wolfe's arm, like like like sun damage
that like salty old sailors would have from being on
deck for you know, years and years out in the
sun and the sea spray or whatever. And I was like,
that's such a that's such a thoughtful kind of touch,

(33:38):
you know, to like these weathered old seafaring guys or whatever,
except they're not seafaring.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But yeah, even the saliva, Yeah, I was like, ah,
it was very visceral.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, the glatinous nature of it. I was like, oh,
I mean we take it.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't take it for granted, but I just when
I stopped to think about how difficult it must be
to make Sabine's hair look so yeah, perfect. I'm so
grateful that they took all that time and went to
all that trouble. I appreciate every single frame.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
More what's that, I said, more toys, more toys. The
dresser in the Galaxy.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Well, that's the way I want to bring up because
you're talking about the mundane, like brushing your teeth and
using the refresher. It's like where what's where is the
salon on the ghost that Sabine has to be.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Doing it herself. She's absolutely not interesting anyone else to do.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Sabine Shavedra's hair.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Well, that's what I want to find out, Like maybe.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Maybe Hara might have done it. I feel like you
probably like a paster and she was like absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Who does Ezra's hair? Because Ezra's hair is always like
really put together too, He's got the perfect middle part
all the time.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Does it?

Speaker 5 (35:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Not a chance? Maybe canaan fit.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
To each other's hair.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
For him.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
And that's the episode. That's the episode we all, we
all deserve, is like the hair dressing episode of Like, well.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I feel confident that Sabine does her own, makes the dye.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
She does it herself.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
She's not entrusting anyone else to execute her vision. Yeah,
and I can almost guarantee you that she has nothing
to do with Ezra's hair because thank you. Yeah, it's
just I feel like when Ezra shaves.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
His head it's like he hass deb to do it.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
With a lightsaber.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, and then like, doesn't dev have like prehensil or whatever.
I don't even know what his I guess his hands
look like normal hands, right, I don't know does he
have like an extra finger or something?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Kind of webed aren't they? Aren't they? They're not like
normal human hands, are they?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Ja Z, you don't have to fact check that you have.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Let me make it up.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Hold on, anyway, I think that that's who he would
have probably gotten to help him out.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
But I think Sybin doesn't need any help with that
in that department. Let's see.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
But I do love for a season two look, it's
like there's something about that that teal blue shade. It
was like there's something cool about that really cool. Oh okay,
well yeah, what'd you find?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
It looks like.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Three fingers?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Your fingers?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I knew to say, well, let's see.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Hold on, No, I think it's Hondo. Honda's the hairdresser.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
For a book.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think Hondo will do whatever you want exactly. I
know he's got like like three three.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Also, I mean, now that we're on this, dang, who's
shape it up? Callouses? Right, perfect cheek bone.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
He has people for that. He has a million like
a thumb and three fingers.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Okay, we're having like three different conversations going hold on
all right.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, thumb and three fingers and then four toes. Okay,
well get the job done.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Well it's enough to hold clippers. I guess the shape
as said, So there we go.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Uh with callous, I would agree with you like he
is that the Empire has more resources. So I'm sure
there's a whole team of people that uh does that
or they just have like maybe it's all automated and
they're they're the what kind.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Of troopers do we call that?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Some kind of droid?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
The Salon Troopers. They're sponsored by Paul Mitchell and they
get them all taken care of over there.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean like the hair and and or was epic.
Mmm you know, I mean maybe everyone's just really good
at doing their own situations.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
But that's true. But the Star Wars as a whole,
like keep we'll have generally have really good hair or
just or just really memorable hair.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Hell, yeah, you know Luke for Scottwalker, the braid the
single Jedi right, sure, what did they call that?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Lay?

Speaker 5 (38:17):
We're giving JAC a lot of homework today, but like
even Luke Skywalker's very bon Jovi feathered bangs, you know,
it's just like or even solo stuff that I don't
give a I don't give f you know, just my
hair is gonna be what it is. But it's just
casually what it is, Yeah, I think, which is very
indicative of Harrison Ford. He's just like, yeah, whatever, that's
my hair. But uh, yeah, I don't. We may have

(38:41):
to just go to jc's fact check early because unless
there's anything else you want to go over this, this
episode like had a lot of you know, layers to it.
The next episode, which is part two of two of
this this whole arc has a lot. So if there's
not anything else, I think we can just go to
our fact check early with JAC. What do y'all think?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
I think let's get the people what they want to
because we all look forward to the fact check. So
to our listeners on JAC, if you're done with the homework,
we're ready for you.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
Oh my goodness, you guys, this is the day JC
quits the podcast. By the way, Okay, there are some
triggering things in this podcast for me, that I'm going
to get on a little bit of soapbox for and
it'll start with, uh, the idea of college football rankings.

(39:32):
I have to say, as a University of Miami alumni
that got hosed out of so many national championship games
because people rank Miami low because they hate University of
Miami because they're not as good as University of Miami,
I'm with Taylor. I have seen college football rankings continually

(39:54):
rank worse teams over better teams aka the University of Miami.
So I'm with Taylor on this. I'm going to sit
out going to your guys football game with Taylor now
that I've got that off my chest. John, you said
at one point, mute your mic during the sports conversation,
which also rehinded me of Tony really in Around the Horn,

(40:16):
which you later made reference to with Taylor muting his
own mic. So I wanted to point that out, which
is Around the Horn is a game show on ESPN
that's been around for stuff anymore fifteen years. It just
ended after a million episodes. Taylor, you were talking about
the person at the convention you talked to who was
talking about hours of dialogue in Star Wars that was

(40:40):
read by you guys. This is actually a conversation ten
years ago I had with James Arnold Taylor when they
canceled Clone Wars about him being Obi Wan, which was,
you guys do do significantly more dialogue as your characters
than any live action actor ever?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Did?

Speaker 7 (41:01):
It skews a little bit now that there's the Disney
Plus TV series, But I pulled some numbers on of
just how long the shows have been so, like you said,
Harrison Ford was in five Star Wars Movies episode four, five, six, seven,
and then a little cameo in episode nine as a

(41:23):
as a dead guy. Spoilers, sorry, so you have to think.
So here here are the rundown on number of hours
per Star Wars. Star Wars Rebels has around thirty hours
and twenty five minutes. Now, every episode of Star Wars
Rebels had you guys in it. I don't think that
there were really episodes that, like, well as was just

(41:46):
not in this episode that you guys had that core
group Clone Wars one.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Or two that I wasn't in.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
I remember, yeah, like very few though versus Clone Wars,
which sometimes they'd just be like in ah Soca episode
or an and again an Obi episode or whatever. Clone
Wars had sixty six hours of runtime. So if you're
if you're looking at it, you're like, yes, like James
voice significantly more Obi Wan dialogue than either than even

(42:18):
aleganis and you and McGregor combined. And I've got some
more numbers Live Action Star Wars. So this is all
of live action Star Wars is at eighty five hours total. Now,
if you break that down more, twenty five hours of
that is the live action films, and sixty hours of
it is all of Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fad

(42:41):
and Ahsoka and all of that combined. So if you
look at that, yes, the math is completely right in
that you guys were able to become and identify with
and flesh out your characters way more than any actor
in a live action thing so far. And maybe that

(43:01):
changes is if we get ten seasons of and Or,
but we know that's not going to happen. So yes,
I'm not going to debunk that. That is a myth.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
YEA.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
It kind of blew my mind, shut Tia.

Speaker 7 (43:13):
You asked if I knew it was Rex when I
watched the episode. It was about eight nine years ago.
I didn't. I don't remember being like, oh, it's Rex.
I was like, what are they talking about? And then
when it was Rex, I was like, ah, it's Rex.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Okay, okay, good good.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
All right. This is where I'm gonna get on my
soapbox a little bit, because the meme is that stormtroopers
can't aim. That's the joke. I'm going to debunk that
stormtroopers can aim. However, I'm gonna I will. I'm jumping ahead, Taylor,

(43:49):
stormtroopers are not clones. They go way more into this
in the Bad Batch Tarkan. There's a whole episode, many
episodes about Tarkan decommission, the Clones, trying to wipe out
all the clones, hunting the Clones, and bringing in enlisted people. So,
I don't know, Vanessa, you said it's volunteer. I don't

(44:10):
know if it's quite volunteer. I think it's kind of
obviously for volunteerism.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, you can you can choose to do you know,
ro OTC or you can be obviously forced to fight
for your countries.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
But I mean in terms of war, no, you're probably
forced to do it.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Yeah. And then Vanessa, you also mentioned is it Australian
or New Zealand. I do believe that it is. It's
a New Zealand accent. Yeah, they're all doing factors are
from New Zealand. Yeah yeah, Okay. Now to the Stormtroopers.
Missing Stormtroopers aren't bad shots evidence Obi Wan Kenobi to
Luke Skywalker and Star Wars episode four says, and these

(44:50):
blast points sand people aren't this accurate. Only Imperial Stormtroopers
are so precise when looking at the destruction of the
sand Crawler right before Luke runs back and sees his
dead aunt and uncle. Next point, the troopers were instructed
by Grandma Tarkan and Darth Vader to miss the rebels

(45:10):
on the Death Star so that they because they knew
that they had already planted the tracking beacon on the
Millennium Falcon. Further evidence. Sitting in the cockpit, Princess Leah
says to Hans Han Solo says, not a bad bit
of rescuing, hey, and Lea goes, it's the only reason
for the ease of our escape. Lea says, Han Solo says, easy,

(45:34):
you call that easy? She goes, they're tracking us, not
this ship's sister. Well, at least of the data in
our two so even Lea points out the fact that
their escape from the Death Star was far too easy. Now,
if we want to get into some real world math
on it, in Star's episode four, stormtroopers take around three
hundred shots at the good guys during the escape of

(45:58):
the dusth Star. They hit at to an accuracy rate
of two point five percent. In real world soldiers have
an accuracy rate of around point zero zero two percent
in their good masks. Some good math, and there is
there's evidence that in Vietnam, the best soldiers had an

(46:21):
accuracy of one hit out of one hundred and eighty
seven shots taken, which is point four five percent. So
stormtroopers are actually five times more accurate than the best
soldiers that we have today. So internet bad at me.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I'm just curious by comparison. Are clones just as good
or better?

Speaker 7 (46:50):
I don't think anybody says clones were bad shots, so
I don't have any data on clones.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Well, but what I'm saying is that if perhaps the
clones are better the storm seam wars, but they're actually
both quite good.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Yeah. I mean, look, people are gonna be like it's
a movie and they the heroes have plot armor and
all this stuff. But also like clones are shooting at
droids most of the time, which would be easier to
hit because they're far less maneuverable than human beings.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
It makes sense like comparison bias. Like it's like if
you went from Jordan to like whoever followed, even if
they're amazing, and then you're going to live up to
that Jordan and Pippen.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
Yeah, you know, Scottie Pippen is fighting so hard for
relevancy after the last dance. I mean, Scottie Pippen was
would have been one of the best players in the
league without Jordan. He just lived in Jordan's shadow the
whole time.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Well, I can go on the whole thing about that
when we won't go there. Look there's a whole deep
dive I have on that, but not.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
Today anyway, I call the Stormtrooper thing like Family Guy syndrome.
Like as soon as Family Guy came on and started
making fun of Star Wars and like all of the
little quirks of Star Wars, everybody like memified all of it,
and you know so that like it's all like Star
Wars all became a joke at a certain point right
around then I love Family Guy. Yeah, I'm I love

(48:08):
Family Guy. I watched it all the time, but like,
you know what is better? Sure?

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Seven five six seven? You guys had it flipped. You
said five seven six seven seven five six seven is
Rexes number?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Why did I write five seven sixty five?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Lord?

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I need help? What is it? I said, Vic Young?

Speaker 7 (48:28):
And what seven seven five six seven is Rex's number?
So I did a deep dive on July fifth, nineteen
sixty seven. Is it d Bradley Baker's birthday? Is it
Dave Filoni's birthday? Is it any of their birthdays? It
is not. So then I went deeper and I was like, who,

(48:49):
what is the first appearance of seven five six seven
in dialogue in the Clone Wars? And uh, I didn't.
I didn't pull the Oh Dark on Umbra was the
first episode, and in that episode I looked up the
director and the writer of that episode and I could
not find their birthdays. But so whatever number reference this is,

(49:13):
it is very inside baseball reference to something because it's
not any big famous person and it's nobody I can
find that actually worked on that episode of the show.
So it keeps going something. I noticed The logo on
Gregor's shirt because I loved it is the logo from

(49:37):
Gregor worked as a chef at a diner called Powersliders
in a Clone Wars episode called Missing an Action, and
it is the logo of the diner he worked at,
which I thought was super cool. Which if you want
that shirt, you can buy an iron on on Etsy

(49:58):
or whatever and you can sure. Okay, final thing we
talked about that I may have missed something, and if
I did, I am sorry to the people listening. But
the final thing we talked about hair. I don't know
who's the hairstylist is among the ghost crew. However, Ben Bert,
the sound designer for Star Wars legendary sound designer, also

(50:20):
edited the prequel movies, or maybe just episode three, I
can't remember offhand. There's a Bert book that Benbert put
out a very long time ago called the Galactic Phrase
Book and Travel Guide, and in that book they talk
about the Barbers of Sullest. Cullest is that species is
nine to numb from the co pilot Lander's Copilot from

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Return of the Jedi. It's where the Rebel fleet is hiding.
Apparently there was a big battle between the barbers is
Cellist and the Wookies for control of the global or
the galaxy wide barber Union. So more likely than not

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all of the Rebels crew goes to one of the
barbers of Cellist somebody and from Cellist the ironic thing.
People from Cellist have no hair.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
That's amazing.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
That's what I got. I don't know how much time.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I took it.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
I'm so sorry to somebody listening at home was incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Really, JC question the name of the ship, sorry.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
Yes, uh haha my notes pages, it's uh it is
all T T Altering Tactical Enforcer a T T E.
And I think because it was only in these two episodes,
they didn't I didn't find like a name for it,
like a cute name that they they dubbed their weird

(51:51):
we'll call it. Which also something something else that I
missed in my notes, John, you referenced it in your
open when they're fishing with zeb. If you listen to
the music, it's very Jaws. If you go on Spotify,

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you look up the Jaws soundtrack and go to the
track called one Barrel. I think something Barrel. I wrote
it down and I accidentally deleted what did I call it?
I don't remember, something like one barrel hunting or something
one barrel up or one barrel down, something like that,
and you go forty seconds in the music is a

(52:34):
huge homage to that track from Jaws, the barrel seques.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Yeah. How they get so specific with little callbacks to
other things out there.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
It's kind of amazing and all from the legacy of
John Williams. You know, they're just continuing that on through
Kevin Culler. It's really cool.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
Yeah, one barrel chase at the forty second mark's that
is if you want to hear the inspiration for that
scene for the music, it's all right there.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
One last thing, a friend of mine called and said
that he was listening to the podcast this last week
and that, you know, he feels like he's it, gets
to hang with us and he's friends with us.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
And the one thing he.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Said is like, I really yearned to see Jc's mohawk. Yeah,
it's my friend Joey and his whole family there. I've
known him for years and they're huge Star Wars fans.
So you have a following jac and many are curious
as to this legendary factchecker. So maybe we'll have to
do like a special post and reveal. I know you've

(53:38):
been in certain posts, but people are curious about you.

Speaker 7 (53:43):
It's very like Unkept today. I was supposed to have
my wife do it yesterday and we get too busy.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Well, you're going to visit your galactic barber, just like
everyone else in Star Wars.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
I now I have to go find mysels barber.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well, the bonus is if we do live events every
we'll get to see your glorious mohawk.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Yeah, you're gonna have the longest meet and Greek line
out of all those because you'll want to see mohawk.
We're all here for it, and so that's that's what it's.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
I love questions for you. It'll be great.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Thanks for humoring us, jac That was thank you.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
We appreciate you rising through occasion as always to our
like pop quast homework assignments that we give you throughout
the hour of the episode.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
But it all did I did anything slide under?

Speaker 5 (54:27):
If we forgot anything, we got next week to go over.
Because we never know, people will let us know.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Actually, so I fear as the Stormtroopers or whatever. As
we all know, I have a handbag full of things
for everyone's low blood sugar, and when people were growling
stomachs during the session, you know, whenever people needed a
bite to eat, I would go get bananas. Then Steve
Bloom sent me the meme of the Stormtrooper holding a

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banana as a gun. Then I reached out to the
artist in England, his named Stephen Quick, and I said,
do you mind if I make T shirts to give
away to hashtag Star Wars family friends that I meet
around the way. He said, not only will I give
you permission to make T shirts to give away for free,
but also I'm going to paint you a hara with
a banana, which you can't see because you're listening to

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the podcast, but I have it featured here in my
streaming room. So it's not that I'm invested in the
Stormtroopers being horrible, but I am very grateful for what
came out of whatever myth that is, you know, thanks
to family Guy or spaceball, you know, whatever made it funny.
I'm just grateful that it brought people together vis a

(55:39):
vis my caretaking and food catering business, those part time
activity during the records, but it led to a lot
of jokes. I mean, I think the people, the fans
that still wear the shirts. They refer to themselves as
the Potassium Troopers. Yeah, there's a a group out of Toronto.

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I think they're the six one seven I follow on Instagram.
I hope they're all well, but they periodically check in
and I'm like, hey, the Potassium Troopers are still here.
I'm sure it's all obviously given your statistics, it's all wrong,
but I am grateful that, for whatever it's worth, we
all had a laugh.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Is interesting though, because sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (56:22):
I was just going to say, I have one of
those shirts that you gifted me and my whole crew
when we did an interview with you, like again ten
years ago and David Collins on my ancient Star Wars
show called The Komlink, which I think is still on
YouTube if anybody listening wants to go watch watch new

(56:42):
Hara Vanessa talk about being the character. I think we've
got a forty five minute interview with you up there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Right next to Porthos. Yeah again food, I'm there.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
There's a quick sting because that's interesting hearing your checking over,
hearing what you just said, and I said, like the
some of these narratives that get put out there, whether
it's the word or mouth of fans or whatever, it
is interest because it does exist. So where did that
come from? Because with those statistics, it's hard to argue
with what you just said, jac and and not going
to argue with like old Ben Canobe even though he's old,
you know, I think he still knows what he's talking

(57:17):
about with blast radius and all that stuff. But even like, okay,
I'll breath the karate kid. Some hack on some websites said,
oh the kick that the crank kick was illegal. No
it was not, but I have the entire internet went
behind this and said, yeah, Daniel Larusso's kick to the
face was illegal as somebody who has competed in martial
arts tournaments won a couple world titles. Little flex in there,

(57:40):
but I don't, I don't wear my resume and my sleeve.
Kicks to the face are legal. It's punches to the face.
But even though that's legal now too, if that kick
was illegal, then the referee would have called no point,
reset bow and then go again. So this but it's
funny how things like that like can get such a
following or people just fall behind it. That that becomes
the narrative. So that kind of goes into what you're saying,

(58:03):
where somebody who had a very prominent voice or some
people that people can follow, they just kind of follow
that narrative. But we yeah, they're all just horrible shots.
So that's really interesting to think about.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Well, and then to validate Vanessa. Because of that internet narrative,
we got the wonderful thing, which was Cobra Kai. So
because of the Internet narrative, we got the wonderful thing
of the Potassium Troopers, right.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Which is weird because Harah obviously is not a bad shot,
but I think it's more hilarious that she has a
banana instead of a gun.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
I don't know, Well, she's nothing if not practical. So
let's just say, oh god, can we i've do you
do have the name of the artist that made that?
It'd be cool to feature them maybe on our Instagram
or something.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Oh definitely, step Yeah, yes, I do. Indeed, Yeah, he's
we we right back and forth all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
He's in the UK. Stephen quick Art is.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
His and he texted to me, I'm gonna forget that.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Stephen st e p h e N. Steven quick Art yeah,
I'll share this with you right now.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
No, that'd be great to feature that, because that's a
very cool I don't because just so people can maybe
get a visual of what we're talking about. So absolutely, well,
we didn't just get a fact check, we got a
whole epilogue too, So this was a fun one. Well,
thank you guys always JC, we always feel just, you know,
a little bit smarter, thanks that, thanks to you with
your fact checking. And now we know that stormtroopers are

(59:32):
not bad shot. So we all learned something today. We'll
be back next week everybody to go over episode four
of season two, which is when a lot of the
heavy action starts. It's a really great episode. But until then,
keep on listening, keep on telling your friends about us,
and you know, keep on supporting. We always appreciate it.
We very much see it, and we want to keep
delivering for you and we'll doing exactly that. But until then,

(59:54):
Taylor's got the magic words.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Hear the music.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producer,
hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Taylor Gray and John
Ley Brody Executive producer and in house star Wars Guru
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