May 22, 2023 • 16 mins
NSYNC, for many, is considered the biggest and best boy band of all time! So, Lance Bass has decided it's time to lean in to everyone's love of boy bands.
Each week, Lance sits down with your favorite boy banders for an in depth conversation. From New Kids on the Block to 98 Degrees, Backstreet Boys to Big Time Rush, even the most elusive boy banders are joining Lance for truth telling, pop culture reminiscing, and a nostalgic deep dive.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Hello and welcome back to the iHeart podcast Speaker series,
where each week we get a chance to chat with
some of our favorite creators, podcasts, host producers, thinkers in
the space.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Today.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm really excited about our conversation because we're talking to
not the hosts of just one podcast within our network,
but the host of two podcasts. Will hopefully get to
a little bit of both of them. But the one
and only Lance Bass is joining us. Lance, Thanks for
joining us?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Are we going? How are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I love the spirit of this podcast This has come
out of our Burbank studio where we launched some really
really fun, really playful, terrific nostalgia based podcast and this
is certainly no exception, but Frosted Tips. I think it's
just a genius name for a podcast that you know,
has one boy band icon interviewing other boy band icons.
(01:33):
You're obviously known for much more than that, But the
focus of this podcast is that. Can you tell us
a little bit about the origin of the podcast here?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, you know, I've I've always wanted to use the
name Frosted Tips in some way on podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So you guys came to be and wanted to.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Do a podcast, I'm like, okay, I have the name,
I just don't know what the foe.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is just yet.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And y'all came up with a great idea, you know,
let's interview teen idols you know something about and specifically
with boy band members, because you know, there's so many
boy bands out there, but we really didn't get to
know all the individual ones, and especially right now looking back,
you know, twenty years ago, what was it like for them?
So I think it's just a nice recap of what
your favorite teen idols are doing. Today, and it has
(02:12):
been a blast because this show is all about the fandom,
you know, because boy bands, you know, teen idols.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's all about the fans.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
And so many times the fandoms were separated's like you
can only like this and I have to like this,
and we have to fight, you know. But now that
we're you know, older and mature, we can all kind
of you know, flow into one.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Each other's fandoms.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And that's what's been so fun about this podcast is
really crossing over all of these groups and sharing the
like experiences between everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh that's awesome, and you're absolutely right. It did feel
like there was this moment where you had to be
like all in on whoever your band was and that
total loyalty, which is fun in many ways. But actually
I'm curious sort of looking back, were you guys friends
with you know, members of other bands. Was there sort
of a kindred spirit or a shared you know, like,
oh my god, this is also crazy what we're going
through or what was that like at the time in
(03:02):
terms of relationships with other bands.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, in the moment, no, we really didn't get to
hang much with any other bands. We had no time
to be friends with these guys, and then of course,
especially with the Backstory Boys, you know, it was in
sync versus Backstreet and it became this kind of friendly competition,
but not so friendly to fans.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So that kind of kept us apart.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You know, even when we see each other to war shows,
we still kind of, you know, kept away because we
had to keep the rival going.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But you know, it's it's fun to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That now because it's just so ridiculous how we were
all fit against each other.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
But it also just kind of made it fun. And
I always tell those guys, I mean, we're all really
good friends.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Now. What I love about it is it really kept
us all on our toes. If we didn't have the
Backstory Boys on our tail at all times, we kept
going up and up and just really improving what we
were doing. So I mean, I kudos to those guys
to making us better.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That makes a lot of sense. Now, that's terrific. I
love that you launched the podcast. The first conversation that
you have was with jac because you've got somebody that
really hasn't given a whole lot of interviews, Like, tell
me about that experience getting him to agree to do
this and what was that chat like.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, he can't say no to me, right, which is great,
you know because having a host like myself, you know,
it's just a phone call away, and it's hard to
say no when someone asked you to directly, like will
you do this? Because you know, there's so many podcasts
now and I'm sure everyone gets asked, and you know,
I say no to so many things. But I think,
you know, with these guys, they want to tell their story,
(04:30):
you know, and I think it comes from you know,
the questions that I asked is probably questions that they've
never been asked before, and you really get to the
psyche of what they went through. A lot of people
just cannot relate to it all, especially you know, journalists
or interviewers. Unless you've lived it, you don't get it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, So with JC, yes, he doesn't do any interviews,
and I was super excited, you know, to get him,
and he was my first guest because that is the
number one person the fans wanted. They're like JC, we've
not heard from him. And then a lot of people
like ash Lee Parker, Rangel, you know, again very rare
to hear an interview from him. Jonathan Knight. You know,
it's just like all these Jordan Knight, a lot of
(05:09):
these musicians that just don't like to speak too much,
and these fans.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Have been wanting here, what has been going on in
the last few years.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So, yeah, Liver, what are you finding and in common
among the groups? Other than like it was clearly a
you know, I'm sure just a bizarre and surreal experience
to live through it all. What are you finding sort
of in common among the guests as you have them on?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, major similarities in the fan groups.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We all have very similar fan stories, scarily the same
fan stories.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's like it's it's like a repeat.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I've also realized that pretty much every single teen idol
has gone through horrible managers and just horrible business practices.
They were all taking advantage of it at such an
early age, and unfortunately it still happens today. You know,
the business hasn't changed too much. I'm still hearing horror
stories about teen musicians and teen actors just going through it.
(05:59):
That's one thing that we really really relate to is
everyone has that horror story of their first manager, their
first age.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Everyone taken advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
With that in mind, have you guys had a chance
to talk to many of the sort of more more
recent boy bands and others that have been coming up
and share some of your experiences passed down some of
that wisdom in more recent years.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, you know, we just had because you know, the
show isn't just for us old people.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, we want to bring in all these.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You know, teen idols and that's now we have bts,
we have you know, all the great kpop happening. And
the newest band that has been put together is the
New Menudo just had those boys on last week and
it was so fun to see them because they're so young.
I'm talking about ten years old and twelve years old,
and just to see the star in their eyes about
like what they're about to experience and their first single
(06:44):
is doing so well and they're getting all these fans.
It reminds me a lot of when in Sync started
and watching them go what they're going through now, I
just feel like I need to protect them, Like, oh,
so I'm just giving them so much advice. I don't
know if they were listening to me, but I'm like, okay, guys,
make sure this doesn't happen to you and you know,
when you write together right as a group, you know,
as a brotherhood, before you go to bed at night,
make sure that you know, you get everything out and
you communicate. So many life lessons I've learned I would
(07:07):
love to pass on to these future boy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Bands, and hopefully they'll listen to their elders.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I would think they would, or at least I would
hope so. But you know, it's interesting as you think
about looking back on this time, sort of in contrast
to the music space. You know, we have a lot
of shows that we call the rewatch space where we
might have you know, Zach Braff and Donald Fazen looking
back on Scrubs, or Zoey Deschanel looking back on New Girl,
or lots of other shows like this. So many of
(07:34):
them say, this is the first time I've watched any
of these episodes since you know, I was living in
that time, And some of them honestly never even watched
some of the episodes. They went, they acted, they did
their thing, they walked away, and that was sort of
the end of the experience. I would imagine in the
music space, you sort of can't escape it. Right wherever
you are, you're hearing your music from time to time,
But has there been any part of it where you've
(07:56):
gone back and you were like, oh my god, I
completely forgot about like this aspect of what it was
like to live through that time.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I mean, you're right.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know, as a musician, you kind of live with
it always, but you know, going back, there are especially
when I'm interviewing you know, the guys from in Sync,
There's so many stories that I've been telling for years,
and then I'll tell the story on you know, on
the show, and that Joey Vinton's like, no, that that
didn't happen that way. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Actually was this? I like what?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So? Just how your mind just completely rewrites history.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, fascinating. I mean I could swear.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Something happened this way and it just did not, and
they'd show you the video.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like, no, you here it is. But it's amazing what your.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Brain will trick you to thinking and what you just
create as you get older. Yeah, I mean it's it's
it's fun. So I get called out a lot on
my story. Is that just weren't true?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, revisionist history there, That's that's pretty great. Let's talk
a little bit about the extra Frosting. I love this idea.
(09:10):
I love any excuse to have somebody like Debbie Gibson
on the podcast. But tell the listeners, if they've not
had a chance to check out the podcast yet, what
happens with extra Frosting.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, you know, there are a finite amount of boy
band members out there, so we are opening up to
this extra Frosting, which we released twice a month, Extra Frosting.
Literally right before I got on with you, we had Tiffany.
So it's kind of like to follow up on our
DeBie interview.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's so good, and I'm so.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Interested in bringing in, you know, people like Donnie Osmond,
you know, people that live this teen idol world but
in different booket.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's like, what was it like for him in.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The seventies compared to what it was like to me
in the nineties, compared to what it was like for
Dream Street in the two thousands, what it's like for
bts today, And see what those similarities are because it
was so similar, but then you have like, whoa, there
was no social media, so it must have been so
much safer. But yeah, I mean it's so intriguing, and
especially because it's selfish for me because I get to
(10:03):
catch up with the idols that I liked, you know,
to bring the people that I was a fan of,
which is just really special just for you know, little Lance.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh Man, that's so fun. Well, you co host the
podcast with your husband Michael, and I'm curious for him,
what's been most surprising for him? Is there any part
of like your life in that era that has surprised
him or any part of this I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He never really tells me that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I mean, I love having him here because we're both
such pop culture fans, you know, and he's a little
younger than me, so he really got to experience the
en sync of it all on Backstreet and Brittany and Christina,
so you know, it's awesome. I had the inside view,
but he had the outside view. So it's very interesting.
His take as a kid watching all this and what
he thought was going down, but what was actually happening
(10:46):
we can actually talk about now.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But it's fun.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And I'm learning how to share my space because you know,
his interviews and I forget is that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm like, oh crap, I'm like, yo, you joined here too.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You can ask questions, but I talked a little much,
but I'm getting better at it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, it sounds so much fun. You guys are a
great duo on the show.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Now he makes fun of me the whole time, so
the fans love that he just got everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was going to say, I didn't want to admit it,
but that, yeah, is sort of like the best part
of the show. So yeah, So we got to see
each other a few weeks back at a conference called
Podcast Movement, when we announced the launch of a network
of shows Caught out Spoken, dedicated to LGBTQ voices. We're
so thrilled to have you jump in on this with us.
You know, a big part of our mission here at
(11:29):
iHeart is to make sure that we're bringing in voices
from all different communities and making sure that the diversity
within podcasting should reflect what the population looks like and
the industry as a whole. Has a long way to go,
but we see it as a big part of our
mission to do that, and your involvement in this has
meant that we get to promote shows from creators that
(11:49):
aren't as well known but our members of the community
and have incredible podcasts, but maybe talk a little bit
about that. You shared the stage with a couple of
other members of the team again who are emerging creators.
They're not necessarily household names yet but have unbelievable shows.
But can you talk a little bit about the launch
of Outspoken and why it was important for you to
jump on board when we said we were launching it.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, it's important as a storyteller to tell your story
and to share that stage with such brave people from
my community, and our community is so diverse, you know,
I will never understand what it's like to be trans,
I will never stand what it's like to be a lesbian.
I will never understand what it's like to be bisexual.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But we're all.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Family together, so I'm learning as the listeners are learning too.
So when you're sitting next to a doctor and all
these professionals that are living their authentic life and sharing
their personal stories and people listening being like wow, I
can relate to that, And Yeah, you don't have to
be a celebrity or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You have to have an incredible story and be passionate
about it.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So I was just honored to be up with those
guys and learning so much about them because you know,
they've had a lot of struggles, even more struggles than
I have.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You know, it was lucky to be able to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Be in a band that you know, became popular and
add a lot of you know, people loving me at
the time, but a lot of these especially content creators,
they grew up with just so much hate just by
being who they are, so to come out of it
in such a positive way and to be able to
share their stories and help so many people out there,
it's incredibly be a part of a network like that well,
and it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Was really fun to hear some of the creators as well,
who are a bit younger, be able to say what
you meant to them and what other creators have meant
to them, who have shown them bravery, have shown them courage,
have shown them just intelligence and energy and all of this.
And to get a chance to hear them express some
of that gratitude was really fun as well. We're really
(13:38):
excited about the launch of Outspoken and everything that's there,
but it's just the beginning. To your point, it's such
a diverse community and there's such a range of voices.
The last thing we want to do is launch a
network and say Okay, here's our fifteen shows, and now
we're done with the launch of that, like every month,
launching new shows and bringing in more voices, and it
just feels so important to find the right ways to
do that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's a beautiful thing, and I applaud you guys for
being able to do that, because you know it's not easy.
You know, there's a lot of hate in this world,
and anything you try to do something positive and good
people like to rip it apart. But I love that
you've been able to give us this platform and it
really is as cliche as to say it helps people
and it saves lives out there, It really does well.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Fortunately the response so far has been very, very positive.
But yeah, absolutely hear you on that. Well, before I
let you go, I mentioned at the top here you're
not just host of one podcast, which is Frosted Tips,
you're also the host of another fantastic podcast, which, by
the way, right now is ranking in the top twenty
of all podcasts. When the last time I checked the charts,
The Last Soviet. Can you give the listeners just a
(14:38):
little bit of an overview of the podcast?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean The Last Soviet. It's been a pleasure
to do. I mean it's taken us a long time.
We started that show in November. I just finished recording
it yesterday. Oh wow, a long this has been because
it's a scripted documentary podcast about Sergei Krukolov, who was
this Russian cosmonaut who got stuck in space as communism
fell in Russia.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You was stuck in space for over three.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Hundred days, and it's just one of these stories that
we need to be reminded of. It's a piece of
history that we never really got to learn because you know,
us Americans, we only studied our Apollo days. But just
to really show how politics has always been involved in
space and how it is even day through his story,
all the similarities are just uncanny. But the way that
(15:22):
they put this sound effects and all these old interviews,
it's just one of those you want to put the
earbuds in and just escape into this world. It is
beautifully produced, and I think that's why it's doing so great.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I had no idea people would like this.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I mean, you know, space is very niche and like
really people want to know about Russian cosmonaut hosted by me?
But yeah, the fact that it went number fourteen this
week of all podcasts, and it's the number one documentary
podcast right now. I'm just excited people want this type
of programming because this is what.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm getting into.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I love the scripted I love giving you that sound
bath where you just the tape, and I want to
bring more of these, you know, in the future.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, it's done in our partnership with a brilliant production company, Kaleidoscope.
Love that they got you involved in this and that
this is a show we could all do together. But again,
congrats on once you've pulled off Frost. The Tips has
been off to a fantastic start. The fan base if
you look at the number of reviews and the five
star reviews, like, it's just a fan base that was
clearly craving this. So congrats on that and the success
(16:22):
of the Last Soviet as well. But it's always good
to see you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Lance, Well, good to see you, and thanks again for
let me do what I do.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
All right, we love it. Well, thank you guys for
tuning in. We'll see you again next week.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Hello and welcome back to the iHeart podcast Speaker series,
where each week we get a chance to chat with
some of our favorite creators, podcasts, host producers, thinkers in
the space.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Today.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm really excited about our conversation because we're talking to
not the hosts of just one podcast within our network,
but the host of two podcasts. Will hopefully get to
a little bit of both of them. But the one
and only Lance Bass is joining us. Lance, Thanks for
joining us?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Are we going? How are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I love the spirit of this podcast This has come
out of our Burbank studio where we launched some really
really fun, really playful, terrific nostalgia based podcast and this
is certainly no exception, but Frosted Tips. I think it's
just a genius name for a podcast that you know,
has one boy band icon interviewing other boy band icons.
(01:33):
You're obviously known for much more than that, But the
focus of this podcast is that. Can you tell us
a little bit about the origin of the podcast here?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, you know, I've I've always wanted to use the
name Frosted Tips in some way on podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So you guys came to be and wanted to.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Do a podcast, I'm like, okay, I have the name,
I just don't know what the foe.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is just yet.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And y'all came up with a great idea, you know,
let's interview teen idols you know something about and specifically
with boy band members, because you know, there's so many
boy bands out there, but we really didn't get to
know all the individual ones, and especially right now looking back,
you know, twenty years ago, what was it like for them?
So I think it's just a nice recap of what
your favorite teen idols are doing. Today, and it has
(02:12):
been a blast because this show is all about the fandom,
you know, because boy bands, you know, teen idols.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's all about the fans.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
And so many times the fandoms were separated's like you
can only like this and I have to like this,
and we have to fight, you know. But now that
we're you know, older and mature, we can all kind
of you know, flow into one.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Each other's fandoms.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And that's what's been so fun about this podcast is
really crossing over all of these groups and sharing the
like experiences between everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh that's awesome, and you're absolutely right. It did feel
like there was this moment where you had to be
like all in on whoever your band was and that
total loyalty, which is fun in many ways. But actually
I'm curious sort of looking back, were you guys friends
with you know, members of other bands. Was there sort
of a kindred spirit or a shared you know, like,
oh my god, this is also crazy what we're going
through or what was that like at the time in
(03:02):
terms of relationships with other bands.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, in the moment, no, we really didn't get to
hang much with any other bands. We had no time
to be friends with these guys, and then of course,
especially with the Backstory Boys, you know, it was in
sync versus Backstreet and it became this kind of friendly competition,
but not so friendly to fans.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So that kind of kept us apart.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You know, even when we see each other to war shows,
we still kind of, you know, kept away because we
had to keep the rival going.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But you know, it's it's fun to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That now because it's just so ridiculous how we were
all fit against each other.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
But it also just kind of made it fun. And
I always tell those guys, I mean, we're all really
good friends.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Now. What I love about it is it really kept
us all on our toes. If we didn't have the
Backstory Boys on our tail at all times, we kept
going up and up and just really improving what we
were doing. So I mean, I kudos to those guys
to making us better.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That makes a lot of sense. Now, that's terrific. I
love that you launched the podcast. The first conversation that
you have was with jac because you've got somebody that
really hasn't given a whole lot of interviews, Like, tell
me about that experience getting him to agree to do
this and what was that chat like.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, he can't say no to me, right, which is great,
you know because having a host like myself, you know,
it's just a phone call away, and it's hard to
say no when someone asked you to directly, like will
you do this? Because you know, there's so many podcasts
now and I'm sure everyone gets asked, and you know,
I say no to so many things. But I think,
you know, with these guys, they want to tell their story,
(04:30):
you know, and I think it comes from you know,
the questions that I asked is probably questions that they've
never been asked before, and you really get to the
psyche of what they went through. A lot of people
just cannot relate to it all, especially you know, journalists
or interviewers. Unless you've lived it, you don't get it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, So with JC, yes, he doesn't do any interviews,
and I was super excited, you know, to get him,
and he was my first guest because that is the
number one person the fans wanted. They're like JC, we've
not heard from him. And then a lot of people
like ash Lee Parker, Rangel, you know, again very rare
to hear an interview from him. Jonathan Knight. You know,
it's just like all these Jordan Knight, a lot of
(05:09):
these musicians that just don't like to speak too much,
and these fans.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Have been wanting here, what has been going on in
the last few years.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So, yeah, Liver, what are you finding and in common
among the groups? Other than like it was clearly a
you know, I'm sure just a bizarre and surreal experience
to live through it all. What are you finding sort
of in common among the guests as you have them on?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, major similarities in the fan groups.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We all have very similar fan stories, scarily the same
fan stories.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's like it's it's like a repeat.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I've also realized that pretty much every single teen idol
has gone through horrible managers and just horrible business practices.
They were all taking advantage of it at such an
early age, and unfortunately it still happens today. You know,
the business hasn't changed too much. I'm still hearing horror
stories about teen musicians and teen actors just going through it.
(05:59):
That's one thing that we really really relate to is
everyone has that horror story of their first manager, their
first age.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Everyone taken advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
With that in mind, have you guys had a chance
to talk to many of the sort of more more
recent boy bands and others that have been coming up
and share some of your experiences passed down some of
that wisdom in more recent years.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, you know, we just had because you know, the
show isn't just for us old people.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, we want to bring in all these.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You know, teen idols and that's now we have bts,
we have you know, all the great kpop happening. And
the newest band that has been put together is the
New Menudo just had those boys on last week and
it was so fun to see them because they're so young.
I'm talking about ten years old and twelve years old,
and just to see the star in their eyes about
like what they're about to experience and their first single
(06:44):
is doing so well and they're getting all these fans.
It reminds me a lot of when in Sync started
and watching them go what they're going through now, I
just feel like I need to protect them, Like, oh,
so I'm just giving them so much advice. I don't
know if they were listening to me, but I'm like, okay, guys,
make sure this doesn't happen to you and you know,
when you write together right as a group, you know,
as a brotherhood, before you go to bed at night,
make sure that you know, you get everything out and
you communicate. So many life lessons I've learned I would
(07:07):
love to pass on to these future boy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Bands, and hopefully they'll listen to their elders.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I would think they would, or at least I would
hope so. But you know, it's interesting as you think
about looking back on this time, sort of in contrast
to the music space. You know, we have a lot
of shows that we call the rewatch space where we
might have you know, Zach Braff and Donald Fazen looking
back on Scrubs, or Zoey Deschanel looking back on New Girl,
or lots of other shows like this. So many of
(07:34):
them say, this is the first time I've watched any
of these episodes since you know, I was living in
that time, And some of them honestly never even watched
some of the episodes. They went, they acted, they did
their thing, they walked away, and that was sort of
the end of the experience. I would imagine in the
music space, you sort of can't escape it. Right wherever
you are, you're hearing your music from time to time,
But has there been any part of it where you've
(07:56):
gone back and you were like, oh my god, I
completely forgot about like this aspect of what it was
like to live through that time.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I mean, you're right.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know, as a musician, you kind of live with
it always, but you know, going back, there are especially
when I'm interviewing you know, the guys from in Sync,
There's so many stories that I've been telling for years,
and then I'll tell the story on you know, on
the show, and that Joey Vinton's like, no, that that
didn't happen that way. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Actually was this? I like what?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So? Just how your mind just completely rewrites history.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, fascinating. I mean I could swear.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Something happened this way and it just did not, and
they'd show you the video.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like, no, you here it is. But it's amazing what your.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Brain will trick you to thinking and what you just
create as you get older. Yeah, I mean it's it's
it's fun. So I get called out a lot on
my story. Is that just weren't true?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, revisionist history there, That's that's pretty great. Let's talk
a little bit about the extra Frosting. I love this idea.
(09:10):
I love any excuse to have somebody like Debbie Gibson
on the podcast. But tell the listeners, if they've not
had a chance to check out the podcast yet, what
happens with extra Frosting.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, you know, there are a finite amount of boy
band members out there, so we are opening up to
this extra Frosting, which we released twice a month, Extra Frosting.
Literally right before I got on with you, we had Tiffany.
So it's kind of like to follow up on our
DeBie interview.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's so good, and I'm so.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Interested in bringing in, you know, people like Donnie Osmond,
you know, people that live this teen idol world but
in different booket.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's like, what was it like for him in.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The seventies compared to what it was like to me
in the nineties, compared to what it was like for
Dream Street in the two thousands, what it's like for
bts today, And see what those similarities are because it
was so similar, but then you have like, whoa, there
was no social media, so it must have been so
much safer. But yeah, I mean it's so intriguing, and
especially because it's selfish for me because I get to
(10:03):
catch up with the idols that I liked, you know,
to bring the people that I was a fan of,
which is just really special just for you know, little Lance.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh Man, that's so fun. Well, you co host the
podcast with your husband Michael, and I'm curious for him,
what's been most surprising for him? Is there any part
of like your life in that era that has surprised
him or any part of this I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He never really tells me that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I mean, I love having him here because we're both
such pop culture fans, you know, and he's a little
younger than me, so he really got to experience the
en sync of it all on Backstreet and Brittany and Christina,
so you know, it's awesome. I had the inside view,
but he had the outside view. So it's very interesting.
His take as a kid watching all this and what
he thought was going down, but what was actually happening
(10:46):
we can actually talk about now.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But it's fun.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And I'm learning how to share my space because you know,
his interviews and I forget is that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm like, oh crap, I'm like, yo, you joined here too.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You can ask questions, but I talked a little much,
but I'm getting better at it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, it sounds so much fun. You guys are a
great duo on the show.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Now he makes fun of me the whole time, so
the fans love that he just got everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was going to say, I didn't want to admit it,
but that, yeah, is sort of like the best part
of the show. So yeah, So we got to see
each other a few weeks back at a conference called
Podcast Movement, when we announced the launch of a network
of shows Caught out Spoken, dedicated to LGBTQ voices. We're
so thrilled to have you jump in on this with us.
You know, a big part of our mission here at
(11:29):
iHeart is to make sure that we're bringing in voices
from all different communities and making sure that the diversity
within podcasting should reflect what the population looks like and
the industry as a whole. Has a long way to go,
but we see it as a big part of our
mission to do that, and your involvement in this has
meant that we get to promote shows from creators that
(11:49):
aren't as well known but our members of the community
and have incredible podcasts, but maybe talk a little bit
about that. You shared the stage with a couple of
other members of the team again who are emerging creators.
They're not necessarily household names yet but have unbelievable shows.
But can you talk a little bit about the launch
of Outspoken and why it was important for you to
jump on board when we said we were launching it.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, it's important as a storyteller to tell your story
and to share that stage with such brave people from
my community, and our community is so diverse, you know,
I will never understand what it's like to be trans,
I will never stand what it's like to be a lesbian.
I will never understand what it's like to be bisexual.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But we're all.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Family together, so I'm learning as the listeners are learning too.
So when you're sitting next to a doctor and all
these professionals that are living their authentic life and sharing
their personal stories and people listening being like wow, I
can relate to that, And Yeah, you don't have to
be a celebrity or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You have to have an incredible story and be passionate
about it.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So I was just honored to be up with those
guys and learning so much about them because you know,
they've had a lot of struggles, even more struggles than
I have.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You know, it was lucky to be able to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Be in a band that you know, became popular and
add a lot of you know, people loving me at
the time, but a lot of these especially content creators,
they grew up with just so much hate just by
being who they are, so to come out of it
in such a positive way and to be able to
share their stories and help so many people out there,
it's incredibly be a part of a network like that well,
and it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Was really fun to hear some of the creators as well,
who are a bit younger, be able to say what
you meant to them and what other creators have meant
to them, who have shown them bravery, have shown them courage,
have shown them just intelligence and energy and all of this.
And to get a chance to hear them express some
of that gratitude was really fun as well. We're really
(13:38):
excited about the launch of Outspoken and everything that's there,
but it's just the beginning. To your point, it's such
a diverse community and there's such a range of voices.
The last thing we want to do is launch a
network and say Okay, here's our fifteen shows, and now
we're done with the launch of that, like every month,
launching new shows and bringing in more voices, and it
just feels so important to find the right ways to
do that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's a beautiful thing, and I applaud you guys for
being able to do that, because you know it's not easy.
You know, there's a lot of hate in this world,
and anything you try to do something positive and good
people like to rip it apart. But I love that
you've been able to give us this platform and it
really is as cliche as to say it helps people
and it saves lives out there, It really does well.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Fortunately the response so far has been very, very positive.
But yeah, absolutely hear you on that. Well, before I
let you go, I mentioned at the top here you're
not just host of one podcast, which is Frosted Tips,
you're also the host of another fantastic podcast, which, by
the way, right now is ranking in the top twenty
of all podcasts. When the last time I checked the charts,
The Last Soviet. Can you give the listeners just a
(14:38):
little bit of an overview of the podcast?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean The Last Soviet. It's been a pleasure
to do. I mean it's taken us a long time.
We started that show in November. I just finished recording
it yesterday. Oh wow, a long this has been because
it's a scripted documentary podcast about Sergei Krukolov, who was
this Russian cosmonaut who got stuck in space as communism
fell in Russia.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You was stuck in space for over three.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Hundred days, and it's just one of these stories that
we need to be reminded of. It's a piece of
history that we never really got to learn because you know,
us Americans, we only studied our Apollo days. But just
to really show how politics has always been involved in
space and how it is even day through his story,
all the similarities are just uncanny. But the way that
(15:22):
they put this sound effects and all these old interviews,
it's just one of those you want to put the
earbuds in and just escape into this world. It is
beautifully produced, and I think that's why it's doing so great.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I had no idea people would like this.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I mean, you know, space is very niche and like
really people want to know about Russian cosmonaut hosted by me?
But yeah, the fact that it went number fourteen this
week of all podcasts, and it's the number one documentary
podcast right now. I'm just excited people want this type
of programming because this is what.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm getting into.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I love the scripted I love giving you that sound
bath where you just the tape, and I want to
bring more of these, you know, in the future.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, it's done in our partnership with a brilliant production company, Kaleidoscope.
Love that they got you involved in this and that
this is a show we could all do together. But again,
congrats on once you've pulled off Frost. The Tips has
been off to a fantastic start. The fan base if
you look at the number of reviews and the five
star reviews, like, it's just a fan base that was
clearly craving this. So congrats on that and the success
(16:22):
of the Last Soviet as well. But it's always good
to see you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Lance, Well, good to see you, and thanks again for
let me do what I do.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
All right, we love it. Well, thank you guys for
tuning in. We'll see you again next week.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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