February 7, 2025 • 58 mins
Las Vegas Raiders star Maxx Crosby chops it up with Doug & Marshawn while Gavin is out handling business. The guys dive into everything—from how far Marshawn went to make bed check during Super Bowl week to the financial impact of the Luka trade.
Plus, don’t miss Marshawn throwing down on the big screen in Love Hurts, hitting theaters February 7th.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw be Small Lynch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knew someone you're listening.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
To politics, you're knowing to be you're known to be.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Marshawn, my guy, how are you? Buddy fresh?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You're talking to me like I was just which's handing? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Damn cool? Cool, cooling?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
As you know, Marshawn and our listeners need to know,
our partner is down for a few weeks. That is
Gavin the governor. He's dealing with some stuff in La
as we know, and we want to wish everybody in
La all the best. In fact, we're just there and uh,
I think they're doing an incredible job out there as
we know. So he's doing some stuff out there, so
he won't be with us for a few weeks. But
(00:45):
guess what, me and you are going to be here.
We're gonna hold the ship down.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Aren't we gotta hold it now?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Feeling we'll hold it down for a partner. But he's
going to be listening.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, Batman doing bad Man doing Batman things right now.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's why he's Batman.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's why he's Batman Man, so Moreshawn.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
As you know, with with our partner not being here
this week, Gavin, we wanted to not not do an episode,
but this week's super Bowl week. Obviously you've been in
the super Bowl twice. It's a huge week and for
the fans to kind of hear more about it. We
want to make sure this show goes on this week
to talk about a lot of super Bowl stuff as well.
So we're excited about getting some stories today and some
(01:19):
things that you know, you and I have been through together.
I do think I've lost a few years off my
life with your Super super Bowl story. We can talk
about later back in Arizona, but before we get to
that stuff today, I was with you yesterday and I
got to be honestly, I was really proud of you
because I come in and it's your first movie premier
(01:42):
about to do. So take me through your mindset yesterday
as you're kind of leading up to the premiere, and
how was your first premiere?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
To be honest, it was it was solid, bron I
ain't gonna hold you. I had a hell of fun.
I did have hell of fun, but the highlight to
movie was a yeah. I mean I got to walk
the brother with my grandmother and my and my mama,
and yeah, I mean to see them, you know, I
mean get dolled up and ship and throw that shit on.
(02:10):
That was That was probably the highlight of my my
fucking night yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
How would you compare that to the super Bowl week
with your mom and grandma coming to the games.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's so look, I wanted to know that, right, So
I asked my mama. I'm like, Mama, real, talk like this,
this this type of ship like this or the super Bowl.
And my Mama answered that shit quick, hell look quick,
oh yeah, super Bowl for shure. It was okay, okay,
you know what I mean. But I never seen my
mama get dressed up like that to go to the
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super Bowl. You know, she come comfortable in the motherfucker,
you know what I mean, with her mama Lyn's jersey
on rocket and doing her ship. But to see her
with her dress on, with her makeup done, had her
hair pinned up, had on her little boots and ship, yeah,
I mean, and then my grandma too, Like my grandma
put that shit on too. And I'm like, okay, this
was this was big because you I'll never see them
(03:04):
with makeup and ship on. So yeah, I mean to
do that, but to have them experience that that ship
was big and then you know, the whole cast because
it's probably one of the first time that I ever
just like had to submerge myself into the into the
whole environment and just like doing the acting type ship.
So I got to meet a lot of the where
(03:25):
I don't want to say meet, I got to I
got to build with a lot of the actors. So
you know, I mean seeing them in they element, you
know what I mean, do their thing because that's what
they do. So you know, I just watching that ship
more so like damn it's crazy, but just taking notes
on it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So how was your Did you have anxiety like you
did before a big game or is it when you're
when you're walking the red carpet into the movie when
everyone hasn't seen it. Do you have any anxiety built
up like you did for an NFL game?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Nah, I don't know. No, Yeah, it's too too too
two completely different feelings. Well for me, but while I'm
doing it, while I'm actually doing it, then I kind
of get that feeling as if I'm going out there
to play. But you know, what I mean, because I
don't watch playback and you know, for me to sit
(04:15):
down there for that long to watch that movie, I mean,
that shit is kind of hard too.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So what I mean, it was really cool to see
you in that element in terms of transitioning from a
Hall of Fame NFL career to now this, which is
not normal. People don't normally do this. This isn't the norm,
you know what I'm saying. And to see you in
that element and with your mom and grandma walking the
red carpet and going down it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So it's a really proud moment for me. And that's
why I want to show up yesterday and be there
to the day the kind of witness it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, because you because you surprised the fuck out of me.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well I wanted to be there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Are you surprised the fuck out of me? And it's
crazy because as you're saying that, because I told to it,
uh to it a god like, Hey, yeah, man, I'm
a uh my agent, I mean my agent, I'm a
highlighting ma I'm gonna introduce you to him as ship
I was talking about, you know what I mean from
the entertainment son, when you popped up and I'm like, oh, yeah,
(05:08):
that's my agent. They're like, oh yeah, so cool. Can
we meet them? I'm like, nah, this ain't the right goddamn.
How many agents do you have?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What's funny? Key was like, Doug, I want to talk
to you about a rush movie with Marshan. We can
make a Rush Hour movie slash like the the the
Danny Glover movies and the movie. And I said, I said,
I wait a minute, I'm not the entertainment agent. I
go to the NFL agent and he's like, oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But they know you could get ship done, so that's
why they was fucking with you like that, like yeah,
let's let's get this ship done. We need to lung
and chain and command well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And the cool thing for you, more Seawan, is that
you were in Bottoms and you played a cool character
and this is a totally different character in Love Hurts
and I'm excited for your next role that's gonna be
coming out some point soon too. So you're hitting all
the different genres and hitting all the different character and
it's really really cool to see.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Me hold on fresh bro before we before we get
off that right. So while we were shopping right, tell
my mom my grandma shopping like yeah, hell yeah, I
want to get them some nice dresses and shit, get
all the ship right. So as we're in there, uh,
I see these three you know what I mean, these
three little ladies, you feel me? They kind of just
(06:24):
hanging out in the little area or whatever they got, like,
you know, a seating area. So I'm I see them
and I'm like, damn. They looked like they was fit
to make a move, like, you know, can I get
a picture type shit? So I'm like all right, so
I'm just preparing myself. Man, the three ladies come from
(06:46):
around the little mannequin. It was like, excuse me. I
know this is really random, but uh are you mister
G from Bottoms? And I'm like, oh shit. It caught
me so fucking off guard. Bro, I didn't know how
to respond to the little lady got huh she said, yeah,
I knew it was random, but are you mister G.
(07:07):
I'm like, man, hell yeah, I'm like how you know that?
I all know I loved you and Bottoms Wool And
I'm like I'm sorry. I'm like, you fuck me up
because I'm thinking you finna come over here and tell
me something about some football shit. She's like, no, no, no,
I don't you play football. And I'm like, nah, Now
I'm really fucking like damn, because I was you know,
(07:28):
I was throwed off. I wasn't expecting the little ladies to,
i mean, come in and speak to me, but especially
for you know what i mean, being in a movie.
So I go to the cash register and I'm trying
to check out and my mama looking, you know, behind me,
she looking down and I just see her shaking her
head like don't do that. So as I turn around
(07:51):
and it said, you know, it's a dude. He on
the ground like tying is his his kids shoot And
so when he popped up, I'm like, man, what the
fuck is you? And when I it's the fucking producer
from the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
My mama like no, no, no, don't do that. Don't
do that. She like, I've seen his phone, he had
his camera ready on it. I'm like, Mama, that's the
producer from the movie. I know blood. She like, oh,
because I was goin to tell him, I wouldn't do
that if I was you. But I'm like, oh shit,
but that's kind of let me you know what I mean.
The little lane that you know what I mean has
(08:28):
been created or is moving that shit is is is
you know what I mean in a sense like picking
up and you feel me?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Is?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's different for sure, Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's a very cool thing. And like I said, that's
a great story. And again, everybody, Friday, February seventh, Love
hurts every theater globally. This guy is a star, massive movie.
Come check him out. You will not not be disappointed.
Love hurts. Let's go, baby, Baby.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You are listening to k b il Lakes the.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Smooth No, it was a hell of a movie, my son,
it was a hell of a movie. Guys. We have
a special guest joining us now is one of the
best players in the NFL, not just defensively and offensively,
(09:27):
but players in the NFL, A four time Pro Bowl
player for the Las Vegas Raiders. A defensive end. Special
day for me because it's actually one of my clients
as well, the great mad Max Crosby Joe Mad Max?
What's up baby?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What up? You good?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Hold on? What kind of what kind of brother was
that that sounded too? Brothers? What kind of brother, hey brother?
What kind of hey brother? What kind of brother. Was
that man that was one of them? One a man?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm just saying, is this a safe place for me
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh my god, I'm great. Bro's chilling. Absolutely, it's an honor.
You got two legends of the building right here, Dougie
Fresh and mar shawan amen.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, So before it begin, guys, it's curious. This week
has been crazy, and want to I want to get
into Luca trade real quick because this has been fascinating.
So obviously it's a massive story. You'll probably remember we
were when you heard it when it went down, Max,
and so did more Sean. So I got a question
for you guys, because I'm curious, Like as as people
may not realize when Luca got traded, there's implications. So
(10:33):
he gets traded from Dallas the Lakers. Everyone thinks, Okay,
you're going from Dallas Lakers. This is great, you're playing
with Lebron. But no number one, he's now not eligible
for super Max extension. So in itself, he's going to
lose one hundred and twenty five million.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Dollars not eligible photo legs.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Under the NBA rules, he will not be eligible now
since he switched teams.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So so he'll lose one hundred and twenty five million
dollars by getting traded. Okay. The other thing that no
one talks about, he's now going from zero percent state
taxes okay to thirteen percent taxes. So Luca in itself
is going to make a lose. I would say, roughly,
(11:20):
you know, one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now, he's not an endorsement guys. We know he's not
going to go out and do commercials and things like that.
So I guess my question to you, Max is, as
a player number one, how do you feel about this
in terms of if you're Luca.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
If I'm if I'm Luca, I would be sick to
my stomach thinking about how that went down. What he
just did. He just took them to the finals. I
don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously there's
got to be more to the story, but the fact
that they didn't even have the like respect to have
(11:58):
a conversation and just let him know, like listen, we're
shopping you, we're trying to move on, we love you,
thanks for very service, but we're gonna move on. They
didn't even do that. They did it all behind the
scenes and got rid of him after he literally just
took him to a finals. He had five first team
All nbas in a row. I think it just shows you, how,
you know, it's a double standard when it comes to
loyalty In professional sports, players get held to the highest
(12:20):
standard when it comes to loyalty. If they leave, they're
a diva, the this and that. But if a front
office dumps a guy who's a twenty five year old
generational superstar, they just get to sit back and not
you know, people forget about it. So I think it's
just crazy. I feel like they could have handled that
way better. But we'll see how it turns out. But
I think, I mean, they could have got so much
more for Luca. I think I think the Mavericks made
(12:42):
a massive mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But Max, you're you're pissed off. You're pissed off. He
got straighted. But once Luca finds out he actually lost
this money.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, to answer your question, yeah, to the money part,
I mean, you got to be sick to your stomach.
I mean, he's literally was eligible for five for three
forty five, like he's about to break the bank and
now he's losing a lot of money. So I think
it's just gonna put an extra chip on his shoulder.
He's gonna he's gonna be on a war path. I
have no doubt in my.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Mind, Marshawn, how would you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm still trying to get over five tree forty five?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, that's what he would have gotten if he stayed
in Dallas. Now he can't get that much. But it's interesting, Marshawn.
I've been I've been through a trade with you, and
I got you traded, uh from Buffalo to Seattle. The
second question, Max is how pissed are you at me
as the agent? If you're if you don't know you're
getting traded, and you're getting traded and you lose one
(13:36):
hundred and fifty million bucks? Are you looking at me
sideways like Doug? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Fuck? Yes? What I'm fucking I'm storming y'all's office? What
if you coming? How do you not see that shit coming?
I can't even believe they can I can't. I didn't
even think they could do that shit, you know what
I mean. I can't believe that they kept it that
quiet talking about those biggest superstars to all NBA. This
(14:00):
never happened in NBA history, having two NBA guys getting
traded for each other.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So hold on them. Niggas didn't know that, they no.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Idea that an idea, didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was completely between the GM and Rob the Lincoln
for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Nobody else that's one of them. Uh, let's sit down
and have a.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Cigar on meeting yep, one hundred percent, and.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Then motherfucker's down probably had both of them, probably have
one too many shots and was like trade them, the
trade them then all right, I'm gonna call your bluff
and the motherfucker probably just like shit.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But Max, knowing that you're still pissed at me, like
I don't care what you have to know, I'm the money,
I'm losing, like I'm I'm You're you're not happy.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I might never look at you the same. I don't
think we might. We might not talk again.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Hey, and you know why, Hey, And look, I agree
with you because Doug, you just know random weird ass
fucking ship so and you tapped in and you are
one of the ones that probably would be sitting down
having the cigar with the motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Too, Yeah for you.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But if it was a different agent, then I yeah,
I might be able to say, all right, let them
motherfucking get away, but you nah, but yeah, that just
that just going to show you though, like, man, this
motherfucking businesses is cut throat, and you like you were saying, like,
don't nobody got nothing that I mean, nobody got an
answer to that. And then there's more so like oh, man, nigga,
(15:23):
eat my shiny ass toys, Like, don't tell me how
to play with my toys. Nigga, he's my toys. I'm
doing but they showing it. Can you say that two
superstars and this nigga. Luca was up for three foties
five and they just got Ridicus and then they sent
them to So look, first thing, first, we gotta go
talk to Gavin about these taxes in California. We gotta,
(15:45):
you know what I mean, figure out. We gotta figure that.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Out off of Lucas stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Max.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Obviously, your your main goal, I know, is to play
the Super Bowl. Morshawn's been in two and that's your
goal ultimately, like every NFL player is. For those people
that don't understand Super Bowl we we know the game,
but for Super Bowl Week, can you tell the listeners
Max and more Sean what the week's like in the
city where it's at. You were in Vegas last year
with their Max and you're going into New Orleans this year.
(16:11):
Tell me tell the listeners what the week is like,
the entire week of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, you know, obviously Marshan could speak more to the
experience as a player. You know. For me, obviously never
been getting ready for a Super Bowl. But the week
in Vegas was an absolute party. Basically from Monday to Monday,
the whole city. You can't even drive your car. Like
we had an event. We had to do a live
show last year with ap for the podcast and we
(16:42):
were stuck in such stuck traffic we had to jump
out on the strip. This is the middle of the strip,
jump out with my boys, and we ran across the
damn strip to get to the casino so we would
be late for our own show. You could not move, So, yeah,
it's a complete riot. I heard New Orleans is like
that too, Like it's super compact. That's a good thing
(17:03):
because you don't have to go as far. But Vegas
a little more spread out, so yeah. I heard New
Orleans about to be crazy and people are there on
a Monday. I heard it's already jumping. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I think for the listeners, they don't understand. They think
they see the game Sunday, but there's parties and events
and day parties, night parties from Monday through Sunday. Companies
and events and gifting suites and media row and it's
it's uh, it's unbelievable. Marshall. What's what's your best super
Bowl store You've been out other than the game? Give
(17:33):
me your best story, Marshall. And you've had at a
Super Bowl New.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
York trying to get back to bed check before you
get that goddamn one hundred thousand dollars fine from missing
bed check. And I ran through that fucking tunnel. What's
the tunnel from New York to Jersey. H the Lincoln Tunnel,
But I had to run through that fucking tunnel to
get back to uhit.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
A minute, You actually ran through the tunnel, man.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
The same one of the same situations. I had to
get to that mother fucking room where they was going.
You fear me I was gonna get here with one
of them fins, bro, I'm calling secure. Hey, I'm on
my way, bloodlet me. I got about like ten minutes
to get back in that bitch, bro. I knew we
was gonna make it in that whip, so I had
to be feet get for a quick fast and I
started running. That was That was. I told somebody, that
(18:19):
was the the hardest that I ran that whole week,
because I ain't I ain't do shitting the super Bowl
square touchdown. But my longest run was probably like maybe
fifteen fifteen yards or something. So that run from in
that tunnel back to the room with the hardest. I
went all for the week, but I was tired of him.
(18:40):
And then I mean, you know, we didn't. We Didnet
did this shit for many many moons. Man, nothing new
under the old move. But we been doing this shit
for a long ass time. To be super Bowl little,
you know what I mean. But as soon as I
started getting about to say the pleasure to play in them, yeah,
I mean, they they started to become you know, a
(19:00):
little you know what I mean, water down, because I'm like,
now I'm a custom to playing in the Super Bowl,
and you know, I mean, you really you really be
tucked off in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
To where you can.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean enjoy it the way that you want to.
So when you not, when you're not playing it, you
just got all access to that ship. I mean it
did becomes a long drawn out ass function like oh yeah,
I don't had enough for this ship enough.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Hey, well Max, Max, You're up for a really cool
honor Walter Payton Man of Your Award on Thursday at
NFL Honors and it congrats to you, by the way,
congratulations And for the listeners out there, there's thirty two
uh nominees from every team and then they announced the
winner Thursday night. And the cool thing is our our
family Snoop is going to be the host, which is
(19:51):
going to be fun for you. So take me through
what that honor is for you and how that how
that means, what that means for you to be a nominee,
and how excited would you be to.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Win that thing? Yeah, no, I would. You know, it's
just honored to be mentioned in that conversation, you know
what I mean. Growing up you see you know the
Walter Payman of the Year and how how big of
an award that is and just being a part of that,
you know, the legacy behind it, means everything to me,
you know, for me, you know this, you know you
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guys have known me for years, but it truly nothing
makes me happier than giving to others. And that's really
what it's all about. It's not about getting the credit
or getting the spotlight because I'm doing stuff in the community,
Like I really do a lot of stuff behind the
scenes that doesn't even get noticed or people know about.
Because that's just truly who I am, you know what
I mean, and that that gives me joy as a
human beings. So to be honored and recognized for it,
(20:44):
it's an honor, you know, just being It's it's the
National Football League, the biggest, most probably the greatest association
in the on the planet, you know what I mean.
You got some of the most powerful respected people in
the world, and you got you know, ownership, and people
like Dad nominate me for this award. It's humbling, to
say the least, but yeah, I'm excited. You know, we'll
(21:05):
see what happens, regardless if I win it or not.
Just being a part of it, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, it's a huge honor. It's the biggest honor of
any player can get. Is getting that nominee, and like
I said, good luck to you on Thursday. Max. I
know you're a competitor, and I know you are pissed
(21:34):
off at the fucking moon that you're not in the
super Bowl. So the question for you is will you
watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I watched every Super Bowl. I don't
know if I think you know this, Doug, but I
told you, like since I was a rookie, like, I'm
not going to the super Bowl unless I'm in it,
you know what I mean. I've stood to my word.
Last year was the first time I had to go
because I had to be on the field for the
Walter Payton deal. But I literally I left the field
(22:02):
and went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and went to
the cigar lines. I went to eight lounges. So, my god,
I need to spend one minute watching that game. I
had to do an obligation. I think it's a Marriott suite.
They're like, you got to come up here. It'll be
ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They're paying me some ridiculous amount just to come and
shake some man's kissing babies. I'm like, fuck it, We're
going up there real quick. I went up the elevator
boom and I went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and that
was it, you know what I mean. So until I'm
in the super Bowl, that's when I'll watch the super
Bowl and be a part of that. Like I want
to be the one in the in the heat. But
I was with my people chilling.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hey, you know what, I think that's the thing though,
what you mean. I think what you just said, like
not going to the super Bowl unless I'm playing in it,
especially while you're playing, because that that was the same shit.
I'll book up until Sunday. If I can get out
Saturday night, I'll get out Saturday night. If not, Sunday morning,
(22:54):
I'm on a flight and out of that. Yeah, I'm gone, bro.
So I think that's like a thing though, So so
when you do playing it, because I ain't gonna lie man,
I if it's anything I would say about it, it's
like the ceremony when we did win, and uh, what's
it called in New York? Like I was in the
(23:16):
locker room when all the shit had popped off, the
you know, the confetti, the trophy, this that and all
that shit. So when I come out, you know, I
had went go grab moms and you know what I mean,
the rest of my family, all the confetti is down
and ship day up on the stage doing all the shit. Yeah,
I mean, had I had, I ye know what I mean,
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knew better. I maybe would her, you know, I mean,
try to see what that shit was all about. Because
then I'm like, oh, you know what, fuck it. I'll
just keep that ship next year.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
The situation that we have so.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, Max was funny back to back years. This is
literally the date is almost an anniversary. He wins the
super Bowl in New York against Denver, comes off the field,
no joke. I go get him a hug and say, hey,
great with He's like, man, where's my money? I said,
what do you mean? Because we're going through contract stuff.
He's like, where's my fucking money? Go talk to the
GM right now about my money? I said, more Shaan.
The game ended thirty minutes ago. He's like, I don't care,
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go talk to Schneiner about getting me my new deal.
And he was dead serious. I'm like, bro, I'm like,
you got to give me a day. So anyways, that
was that day. A year later, no joke, is when
we're in Arizona. What he didn't get the ball? So
I'm waiting from outside the locker room. This time, it
wasn't about where's my money? It was like, what the
hell just happened? And that's when he gets in the
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car with me and Gavin and we roll out of
there with the bottle of Hennessy and some other things,
Uh to go meet Snoop.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But those were.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Back to back years as far as his mindset right
after the game, you know what I mean. So that
was pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You're you're one of You're one of one, my son,
I'll say, yeah, you're a special individ.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Hey, look, we're gonna we're gonna spare you, bro, because
we know you got to keep your show going and
you being a good host and ship. So we gonna
let you cook, just keep cooking, and then we're gonna
get into it because I ain't gonna let you get
up out of here without you know, I mean, we
gotta show a little peace from love. Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, Matt, Max, who do you root for? Then you
root for the Eagles, you root for the chiefs like
you can't stand the chiefs. That would imagine in your division.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'm not rooted for shit. At the end of the day,
I hate the Chiefs. Obviously they're in the division. I
think Philly's gonna win, I truly do. I think Saquan
is gonna do the Super Bowl MVP. But I don't
root for anybody, you know. It's talking about like the
super Bowl thing, like not going to the Super Bowl.
Like imagine Kobe going and watching fucking somebody else watching
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the Pistons play another team in the finals, Like the
fuck I would never do it, you know what I mean. So,
like I'm not rooting for shit, and so like I
want to be in that as a competitor, Like that's
all I think about is winning. I gotta watch these
other guys rust the quarterback when I should be fucking
on the field putting on the show. Like that's that's
what I look at it, you know, as it has
So I'm gonna be watching, of course, but I don't root.
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I don't root for either one, you know what.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But for both of you guys, it's curious my question
for both of you guys, watching that game is as
hard as it is to watch, does it also fuel
you like no other in terms of going God damn it.
I have to get here next year because I got
I bet. Watching the game and seeing the whole day
of TV and all the stuff building up to it,
it's got to piss you off even more not playing it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh yeah, I want to be in it. Like I
know Mars Marshon had the opportunity twice to be in
a Super Bowl. Like I've been in one playoff game
in six years. Like I watch these playoffs and the
fucking every year it gets harder and harder, you know
what I mean. Like that's all I want to do.
Like I've done cool individually, I've had success and Pro
Bowls and All Pros. All that stuff is cool, But
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like I want to be winning Super Bowls and being
in the biggest games.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No doubt, I tell you, there's a big dog. Consider
that I'm being on the shit will Pop saying you
win some, you lose some, but you live, you live
to find another day. And being being on the both
sides winning they losing one. Like realistically, blurr. It ain't
no feeling like it. It ain't no feeling like it.
(27:06):
We were just talking before you came on here about
uh and my mama is the one that put it
in perspective. Uh, because we just did the movie premiere
for Love Hurt, And after the movie I went and
asked my mom. I'm like, hey, mama, because you walk
the red carpet and did the whole ship. So I'm like, man,
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what you think was more? You know, I mean more?
What was more excited for you when going to the
super Bowl and doing that ship or walking this red
carpet to see me on the on the big screen ship.
My mama said it with no fucking hesitation at all.
Nigga winning the super Bowl? Yeah, come on, winning the
super Bowl? What what? What else on me? I'm like, well,
(27:50):
there you go. Put that ship in perspective quick. It
wasn't even no thought about it. That's where I'm like,
damn did I I mean, because I don't want to
say a last line about it, but it's like, all right,
I expect that, like we play this fort, like we
put in the hours, you know what I mean. Motherfuckers
know that they you know what I mean, dogs got
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that ship, So I expect. I expected, you know what
I mean. It's a matter of time, but I expected.
And now what I want to get into is you
got you know. I mean one of them dudes over
there with you now who I know can set a
foundation and from what I believe, like, you're gonna be
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the centerpiece to that. You're gonna be the building blocks
and you're gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you're talking about Pete Carroll right more? Shall I
talk about Pete Carroll?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, You're gonna be the You're gonna be the centerpiece
and the foundation to the building blocks that that motherfucker
want to you know what I mean put in to
bring to do his ship. And you know what I
mean just when we talk a little a couple of
days ago, like like I love that shit. That was
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probably the most important thing you could have said. And
once he understands that, he gonna ride the ship out
of your mindset and he's gonna hammer it into every
individual that come into that motherfucker office, and there's gonna
be no way in the world that y'all shouldn't be
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able to build what exactly it is that you see
for the writers to be brother for gonna take your
mindset and he gonna make motherfuckers adapted to it. And
I believe that there's gonna be some saucy shit because
you're bump head with this all the time, Like because
he wanted he wanted me to be that guy. Yeah,
(29:44):
and I'm like, nah, nigga, ain't me You know what
I mean. I when it's time to go to work
ni again, then you know what's happening. But before that, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Gonna be tired.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'll be trying to save all my energy. So you
know what I mean, We're gonna have to figure something
else out, but we will bump here. He is but
another fuck that I've seen to have that type of
mindset and that type of energy that you've got. He
build with that shit, He's gonna be right there. I
wouldn't be surprised if he come and lined up next
to you on your get off just to see if
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he could beat you.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So Max, how's the vibe there? How's it been? I
know he's just got hired and there's no practice stuff.
But how how excited are you to have Pete there?
Of what you've heard about him from me and Marshaun
and watching him. How excited are you guys right now
in that building?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah? You know, we have a good amount of guys
here right now, just working out and and starting to
get back in the groove of things. You know, I've
been here. You know, I started my off season early
because you know, my injury you know, was probably with
four weeks left in the season. So I've been here.
So just seeing kind of the transition from you know,
obviously with Ap getting fired to who's going to be
(30:52):
the next head coach? Is gonna be this guy's and
be that guy? Like it's just been kind of like
quiet and weird a little bit, But once Pete got
the job, he doesn't play around like it's funny. I
was talking to I ran by the GM earlier, you know,
where I was getting breakfast, and he was like, yeah,
he's like, Pete's got like this big ass JBL speaker
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up there. He goes, Now everybody's got JBL speakers. He goes,
It sounds like a frat house, you know, upstairs we're
playing music. And he just said, the energy is just
off the chart. So that's how Pete is. Obviously, having
you guys who've known him for so long, it's kind
of prepared me in that way. But it's it's kind
of weird because he legitimately like just having a conversation
with him, sitting down and talking to him. He reminds
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me of my college coach in so many ways it
freaks me out, Like like literally my coach creating that
Eastern Like this dude was no matter what, he would
have a mini who probably be like he's like all energy,
grab the ball and he's white Beard, the dude sixty
some years old. It does not matter. He's competing no
matter what. And you're like, you look at him, You're
like brothers. He like, is he seriously? Is he like
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he knows He's like that every day. He doesn't matter
what time it is. He is on a million all
the time. So like just talking to him, I'm like
this is this feels right? You know what I mean?
Like that's the first time I had I'm like, this
feels like what is supposed to feel like.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When he got hired, you know, as Marshan knows, he
let Moreshean be and more. Shawn, after Marshawn had that conversation,
quickly said no, no, no, I'm not doing this stuff.
I'm doing being me and he'll let you be you
as well too. And you've already your an iconic brand,
which is which is awesome, So that's gonna be exciting. Hey,
Matt question, No one really knows Max like Brady's involvement.
Obviously the greatest quarter backt of all time. He's doing
(32:30):
Fox stuff there. How involved is he with you? Do
you know him well? With the Raiders? Is he involved?
Is he there? Is he talking to you guys? What's
his involvement with you guys from a team standpoint?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, from what I've heard and obviously what I've seen, Like,
I know he's he's definitely working behind the scenes, you know,
putting things together. You know, Mark has that trust in him.
He came here to be you know, get part ownership,
to be involved and make an impact on this on
this organization. So I know he's a competitor, so he's
not just coming in as an investment opportunity. He wants
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to win. So that's what I love about him. You know,
at the end of the day, he's a winner. Nobody's
won more Super Bowls than Tom Brady. And I do
have a great relationship with him. I've known him for
the last few years. We text each other, you know,
here and there and keeping touch and obviously you know,
I work with Alex he does all my body work.
You know, we work every single day three sixty five.
So yeah, we've been connected for a while now. So
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it's it's exciting and seeing what they're doing, the moves
they're making, like they're not sparing a dime, you know
what I mean, not trying to save money. There's made
you know, brought in chip Kelly. You know, I've been
a bucket offense I was a kid. So seeing chip
Kelly after one and Natty get paid the way he
got paid, Like, they're not messing around. They're trying to
win now, and that's the most encouraging thing that that's
what'spent like the most encouraging things so far. Like they're
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not playing around, They're they're making moves now, they're being
aggressive and looking forward to seeing how how the rest
of that plays out.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So, guys, put your GM hats on, since I know
you both know football, put your GM hat on. Do
you draft a rookie quarterback in this draft or do
you take someone in free agency? Do you bring Aaron
Rodgers back for one year or do you draft one
of these young guys? What do you guys?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think you get a vet you bring in a
vet who's done it before. And you also draft a guy.
If you like a guy enough in the draft to
take him high, you do that as well, so you
kind of get you know, you get a bridge guy
and then develop a young guy behind him. You see
my homes. You know, I had to sit a year.
It's probably the best thing, the best thing ever happened.
You know. You see Aaron Rodgers, you see Jordan Love.
Those guys sat for years and then boom they once
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they were stepped into that role, they're ready to rock.
So yeah, I feel like, you know, if I was
a GM, that's what I would do. But we'll see.
You know, that's that's why they got those titles. Not me.
You know, I'm here to dominate and and and wreck
the game. But trust me, I know it matters. I
know it matters what they gotta do.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Even your involvement in that them. Hearing you say that, yeah,
I mean having that conversation with him, because you got
to remember when it was weird when I'm sitting there
listening to Pete talk at that uh, at that pressure,
that motherfucker talking about, Well I ain't I ain't coming
here to rebuild. I came in here to win right now.
Oh yeah, I came in here to win right now.
(35:13):
And the thing is it is weird because I mean,
you know, seeing this old ass up there and talk
that shit like like, damn, bro, you still like you
still on that ship, like you always on this hype
like to go there. And the thing is he really
he really serious about that shit. So I mean, you
know what I mean, I could see that that happening.
(35:35):
And I mean I'm not too you know, privy to
the conversations that he having behind closed doors, but I
know he he can do some shit with with Russ
that he's able to bring shit out of him. Like
I just I just witnessed it. And it's almost like,
you know, I mean, until you know whatever the situation
was that they had going on up in Seattle, But
(35:57):
you know what I mean, with time, you know, time,
he'll let so if they have been talking, and the
way that Russell ended the last season, he's the motherfucker
that be able to get him over that hump or
put him in position to make Yeah, I mean him
one of those elite quarterbacks that he did for so
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many years before, Like I don't know that motherfucker the
whispers to Russell Win it till me that kind of shit.
He get him to play in ways and I.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Agree, you get him, and you get a young guy
come in as well. One hundred percent. And it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Max.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
We talk about this all the time. Unlike baseball and basketball,
football you can turn the thing around in a year.
I always say this to the owner, Mark Davis. I said,
you have one of the most iconic brands in the world,
not just football but world Yankees, Red Sox Man, you,
et cetera. You got no state taxes, you got the
best facility, you got the best stadium, and every player
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wants to be a Raider. You can turn this thing
around and flip it very quickly in terms of what
needs to be done. And as Marshaun said, your voice
is very very well event because you are the cornerstone
of that team. You are the franchise player of that team,
and you are going to be winning Super Bowls. I
guarantee you that. And you're never going to be traded
without me knowing you're going to being traded, Otherwise you
might get mad at me. How you doing. Hey, I
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got a question, Max, And this is significant and it's
very it's very real to me, and and and it's
really cool. You know, you're coming up on five years
of a really important date, okay, your sobriety, And and
for people don't know, I believe it's on March twelfth.
I believe Max March eleven, March eleventh is your five
year anniversary of sobriety, which is fucking congrats, dude, very okay,
(37:49):
can you let can you let people know? Because I
know it's open, you've been open to it. How how
dark you were five years ago? Uh this week, I
should say, leading up to you and sobriety, I mean
you were in a dark spot.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Hell yeah, No, for sure, I was at my lowest
of lows. I think that's everybody's got their own story,
you know what I mean, Everyone's got their own demons
and everyday battles. And for me, I think that was
the one thing that was holding me back my whole life,
from being the best version of myself. Just realistically, from
the moment I took my first drink and smoked my
(38:23):
first blunt and whatever that was, like I knew right away,
like I was in love with it, and it runs
in my family. I wasn't you know, I've seen it's
i'n been on both sides of my family. I've seen
it up close. And for me, it's like I knew
from the day I started drinking. I love it way
too much, you know what I mean. And it at
first it was a lot of fun, but I knew
(38:44):
I had no control. I just got worse and worse
over time. So yeah, everybody's got their own shit, like
whether you want to hide it or not, Everyone's got
their own problems. And for me, like I always try
to hold it in and like hide it from the
world and act like everything was normal. And then my
behavior was just getting worse and worse and worse. And
I was doing crazier ship and getting in trouble and
(39:05):
doing all types of ship. But it got to a
point I hit my rock bottom, like I legitimately.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well you big ass dude, Bro, I don't know it. Man,
to see your big ass running around loaded like your
tripping bro was you was out there calling what's up?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Looking at beat your ass a little.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Out with this big ass man. This yella big man. Bro.
We got a whoop out man yellow big No.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I was I was out of control, Bro, I'd getting fights,
crazy ass ship all the time like that just it
was wild. But at the end of the day, it's
the best thing that ever happened to me because I
know I wouldn't be in this position right now. I
wouldn't be able to get a second contract now going
to be a third contract, wouldn't be able to be
in this situation to provide for the people I provide
for without cleaning that part of my life up, and
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to be the play you know that I am like
I wasn't my first two years in the league. Like
I was doing well, but I wasn't who I was,
you know what I mean? Who I am now and
where I'm going, Like if I didn't get that straight,
I don't know where i'd be. I don't know if
i'd be here.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Was there one moment where you said, do you remember
the moment you said I have to stop doing this?
Do you remember that particular minute of the day.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
One hundred percent? I absolutely, I'll never forget it. Like
you know, everybody's rock Bottom is different. I feel like
that's everyone talks about rock Bottom and they think of
like these crazy extremes, like even in college, like I
had wrecked my car, got a duy. That wasn't enough,
Like that wasn't my rock bottom I had been in,
you know, woke up fucking having no idea where the
(40:39):
hell I am type shit like blackout, wake up, where
the fucking my at, trying to find my phone Like
that wasn't rock bottom for me. It was waking up
in my own house, in this my first house in Vegas,
alone in my house, sweat like literally sweat through the
sheets of my bed, like I felt I was like
on a fucking bender for a while, I looked myself
in the mirror and like I didn't even recognize myself.
(41:01):
That was when I got on the phone. I called,
obviously called CJ and you and Rachel and everybody that
I've been closest with, like I need to get help,
Like I'm literally I don't even fucking know what I'm doing.
Hell yeah, bro everybody, Like I was like, I need
to go, and they kidnapped my ass legitimately took me
out of my crib. I was literally, ironically like I
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was trying to go back to the fucking gas station
like ten in the morning to go get some more
booze and shit and black and miles ironically shit, and
I was going to get some black and Miles and
they literally pulled into my driveway and they're like, go
back in the crib, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
What Seal Team six mission Marshawn Sealed Team Sex right now.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Real Team six. And they were on my ass and
they sat and it was it was our guy. And
he sat there and just looked at me and just
damn near twenty four hours, I'm like, I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
But you you in the mirror, Maxo, you look back.
You said, who is this dude?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't recognize. I legitimately was like
I've never been I've never felt like this in my life.
Like I've always been like I was a middle child.
I always had to go above and beyond to prove myself.
And I feel like that's why I fell in love
with it so much originally because I could like be
more outgoing and have more confidence and shit like that.
But over time it just became my like I was
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just fucking wild, like I couldn't just it's not about
the tenth drink that you have, it's about the first one.
And every time I took one, I didn't know where
the fuck that night he was gonna go. I would
end up at a strip club at three in the morning.
Have no idea that I even did it, you know
what I mean, like all time, you know, yeah, like
that was what it was. And I'm open about it
and real about it because that's who I was, And like,
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I'm most proud that I could say that, Like I
truly I don't give a shit, Like I think it's
hilarious people give me shit about how I used to
be because it makes me even happier that, Like I'm
in this position now because I knew how fucking wild
I was. I was completely out of control. So it's like, yeah,
I was a fucking shit show. My big ass was
run around wreaking.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
How well Marshawn, I'm gonna I'm gonna share this story, Marshawn,
And I know Max knows he was there, but it
was pretty cool. It was about a year ago. I'm
at dinner with Mark Davis and Max and we're at
this old school stake place in Vegas and ravin dinner,
just us three and this this waitress cames up and
she's like, Hey, you know, could you mind if I
come by and say something. And she looks at Max
(43:20):
and says, and she starts crying and says, you changed
my entire family's family life. And we're like, what do
you mean. She's like, when you went to rehab, my husband,
who is the father of my two kids, thought he
had his life under control and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It was.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
It was they were about ready to get divorced. He
was gonna do bad stuff. And because Max went to rehab,
her husband went to rehab and he's been sober now
I think four or five years as well. And she
started breaking down and gave Max a hug and said,
because of you, you saved my family and my kid's father,
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and for that, I can never be as great as
I am I And she started balling and all she
wanted was give Max a hug. Yeah, and Max, that
was so inspirational to hear that. I imagine you get
that a lot from everybody in life that knows your
story about how you've overcome that and how you've changed
other people's families as well from hearing your story.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
No, that's that's that's what it's all all about. Like,
that's why I came, you know, I went public about
it because I've seen guys like Darren Waller, you know,
sharing his story and he's so open about it, you
know at that time, and he's my teammate, and I'm like, damn,
like that could be me, you know what I mean,
and the impact he was making, I'm like I could
really go out and make an impact and help others,
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like in my whole life, like when you're drinking, you're
in that addiction, like all you care about is yourself,
Like and I know myself, like I got I got
a big ass heart, Like I care about others more
than anything, and for me, like this is a real
chance or I can give back to others and make
an impact on people's life. So yeah, that's you know
that instance, Like I was completely not I was thrown
(44:59):
off that like holy shit, like this is unbelievable. But
like I get messages all the time, like I screenshot
all of them, Like people message me out of nowhere
saying like, you know, listen, I got sober because of you.
I would fucking die to meet you. And you know
what I mean, You like that that means more than
you know, more to me than anything, because that's what
it's about, Like you can be a great player, you
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can have a great career things like that, But like
the icons in the game really impacted human beings. Like
I look at guys like Kobe, like Kobe really just
with his mentality to the game and what he did
and how he approached it. Like people talk talk about
Kobe to this day, and he hasn't been here for years.
You know, obviously, God rest his soul and his daughter,
But like that's the type of impact he made. He
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changed people's lives, and that's that's just as important as anything.
Like obviously I care about my play and being an
you know, Hall of Fame player and all that, but
like being able to really make change that shit, that
shit goes forever. That's where you build statues about and
people talk about. Is really taking the time to go
out and help and impact others. So yeah, stuff like
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that is it means the world for real.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well, and that's cool, and that's and that's how you
want to be remembered.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Max.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You're obviously a great your great father to your daughter,
and and those are the things that are legacy things
that you want to be remembered that way. And you
know you've always talked is cool and Marshaan, I'm gonna
share something with you. He's always admired you more, Shawn
in terms of how you've handled your career and you know,
saved your money and invested in things and Max talk
about your your strategy now is obviously you're an investor
(46:30):
in in barre knuckle fighting. You and Dana White are
very very close. That's a big mentor to you. Have
you always been a UFC fan in regards to that
that fight, that sport and fighting.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, you know, to to answer your first you know
question you know about Marshawn. I know Doug. You know
Doug is not not lying when he says that the
reason I went with Peter as my financial advisor, I
legitimately you guys CEJ. I went in there. I said,
who does Marshawn have? Because when I was in college,
I watched one of your interviews and you're talking about
money and how you need to save it and you know,
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invest it in the right shit. And like I was
sitting there as a kid, like I didn't know nothing
about money. I didn't have a business degree, none of that.
My family, I didn't grow up with money. So it's
like I always learned from Afar and just watch videos,
and you were literally the guy talking about it that
inspired me. So I came in, I met with CJ.
And ironically, Peter is the financial advisor that you guys,
one of the financial guys you would, you know what
(47:26):
it's called advice or push out to other people. So
I'm like, whoever that is, I want him. Whoever Marshaun's got,
I want that guy. And that's before I ever met you.
And so I met with Peter. Immediately, I'm like, this
is my guy. And then years later I get I
get connected with Mitch, and me and Mitch are locked in,
you know what I mean? Because I was seeing it,
like I seen guys like Dana, like being in Vegas.
I've spent time with Floyd and Dana. Like these guys
are really building an empire, and like that's something I
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take a lot of pride in. And I see you
in movies and you got ownership and hockey team and
you got all this shit going on. I'm like, that's
what I want to be, Like I want to want
I'm want to really build something that's forever and build
real wealth. And so that's why Fair and Nuncle you
know Slate Milk with Dana, like Dana I met. I
met these guys in Boston with Dana, and now you
see Slate Milk and the damn Octagon now and they're
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promoting that everywhere and I got a piece of it.
Me and Dana are in that together. So it's like
there's so many things, you know, from real estate to
I can go on and on, but like that investment
side of me, that like hunger to just build something
huge off the field, that came from looking up to
guys like you and seeing you do the right way.
And I'm not just saying that because we're here, but
(48:29):
like I've never even told you this before, like we're
boys like, but I've never told you that you before
I even knew you, Like I truly wanted to build
that empire. And you inspired me for sure.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Hey man, you know what, I appreciate that, And yeah,
I mean considering where I'm at in my life right
now because everybody they they ask for advice and shit,
right and then just listening to you list off everything
that you got going on and the shit that you're
interested in and the shit that you're doing, Like you said,
you can go on and on for the real estatesments
(48:58):
to the slate milk. Yeah, I mean the very nuckles.
The biggest thing, br that I've actually learned through all
of this shit. It's like, it's not even about the investing.
It's not even about yeah, I mean having these things
that you I mean, that you can reach out, you
can see, that you can touch, that you can be
involved with. It's more so about the knowledge and the information. Like,
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as long as you don't lose your niche to inform yourself,
you gonna continue to grow. Once you get to a
point and it's like, oh, I got it, I understand it,
I know what's up. That's when shit started, you know,
I mean, go back down. But as long as you
keep the mindset to I could get better. I can
(49:48):
learn something new or let me see, let me try it,
let me. As long as you keep that type of
shit going on, you'll continue. You'll continue, You'll continue to grow, bro,
and it it'll take you the lift that you didn't
even know. And then listening to you when you talk
about like you know what I mean about Peter and shit,
I remember you with and Waller come to the house, bro. Yeah,
(50:12):
and I'm like and I'm thinking to myself, like, you
know what I mean. I come to the house and
you know what I mean, I'm like, damn, I'm like,
I'm not a what you call that, like a host
and all that all you gotta put all this ship out.
So I'm like, I don't got nothing. All I had
was some what's some Hennessy, But so man, I bro,
(50:34):
I put Hella Hennessy on the table, like fuck it.
I you know what I mean. I have a drink
with my niggas like what's that and Peter like what
you're doing? Bro, I'm like, well shit, you know, He's like, nah,
that ain't that ain't the look like you gotta put
that ship up.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I'm like, oh, so when y'all come here, I'm trying
to take the bottles of tuckle like nah, it's good, bro,
you know what i mean. I'm like, okay, but that
shit was opening for me, though, you feel what I'm saying,
and then I'm getting to then I get to meet
charm But you know, I mean it was important for
me because I'm like, Damn, this the younger generation, and
(51:11):
I'm thinking, like, if we have more interactions with the
younger generation and the older generation that put shit in
perspective like that. You don't have that disconnect that a
lot of you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
And Marshaun, the coolest thing you just said is this
is it's interesting to say that when I signed you,
when you're a twenty year old kid, I knew you
had it in you to be the guy you are now.
As far as a mentor the guys like Max I did,
I didn't know that. I didn't know that as many
years you took off my life, I didn't know that.
And the point with Max right now, Max, you look
(51:46):
back six years ago, you probably didn't think you would
be the guy that's going to be mentoring the same thing.
This whole thing comes full circle.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
It's crazy what you guys have been through and the
people around you in your corner, in your life is
helping you guys the point where now you don't even
know how many people are touching, whether it be financial literacy,
whether it be the investing stuff, whether it be sobriety
these things. Guys, your impact is massive, both of you guys.
(52:13):
Platforms are so big and like what Kobe did Max
before he passed, our rest and peace and all the
other icons. You guys have the same ability to touch
people in a way where most people have no concepts.
So it's really cool to see what you guys are doing.
And Max, I appreciate you sharing the story about Marshawn
because that's real in regards to you looking up to
(52:33):
him and seeing what he did. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
No, that's that's what it's all about at the end
of the day. It's and Marshall, I hit it right
on the head, like, as long as you are continuing
to be curious and grow and build and take the
next step forward and never get content, you're gonna have
a chance to win. And that's It's the same thing
with football, you know what I mean. If you're a player,
you have a great year, you're a defensive Player of
(52:57):
the year, your first team. Okay, now what's next? You know,
just you go right back to the square one. You
don't just get to start from last year. No, you
got to start right from the bottom again and build
that shit up. And that's what the great ones do,
you know what I mean? And I look at that
through through business like shit, I never thought I'd be
in a meeting with fucking Hunter Campbell and Dana White
and Floyd May, Like I'm sitting there to say, I'm like, fuck,
(53:19):
I feel like I don't belong in this motherfucker, you
know what I mean, Like, what's the fuck? I'm twenty
and now, like you know, I feel a little bit
more confident I'm sitting here with Connor McGregor and shit
like that. I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I really
belong in this room, you know what I mean. That's
a whole different flip, but it's like I belong here.
But now, okay, let me learn. Like I don't know
nothing about the fight world, but I've spent time with
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Dana and those guys, and they've taught me so much
and I'm still learning, you know what I mean. It's
like every aspect of my life. That's how I look
at it, Like I want to fully maximize everything I
do in my life, like I'm already twenty, Like I'm
twenty seven years old, but life is so short, Like
I want to get everything out of it and every
experience that I want to do when I was a kid,
Like I really am doing that, Like that's how I
(54:01):
want to live my life. Like I look at shit
like my basketball. It's something as simple as like the
crib I'm building right now in Summerland, like the basketball
hoop with the fucking mural and the jersey, and I
want my ping pong say, and I want this, Like
that's the shit I was thinking about when I was
eight years old, Like I'm doing that, Like that's I'm
not waiting around and thinking about. No, I'm gonna put
the fucking work in. I'm gonna do what I gotta do,
(54:22):
and like I'm gonna live my life the way I
want to live my life. And in Marshall, you're the
same fucking way. You're gonna walk in that business a
black and mile and talk to your ship. But that's
exactly what the fuck you are because it's real and
that's who you are at the core. So I truly,
you know, I remember being a rookie. People tell me,
like you know, one of my coaches, like, man, you're
gonna spend all your money on damn tattoos and you're
(54:44):
cussing in the media. You can't be doing that. And
like I literally walk into interviews now with a cigar
with my shirt off and talking my shit and people
pay me to do that. Now you know what I mean,
I'm authentic And that's that's the life's about, bro, It's
full circle.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
It's because of what you did, all of that ship
come back, like you know what I mean, because you
your story, you know what I mean. But then I mean,
you know everybody got a story. Then you also put
in the work to solidify, like you know, I mean
you you gave him a reason to pay attention to
(55:19):
your story. Like it ain't just because you know what
I mean, You I got tattools, I talked my ship
and I smoke a cigar. How many motherfuckers we know
do that? And then you go and and then you
go and you give them a reason to say, oh,
I see why you talk your ship, why you got
that tools, and why he ain't here smoking a cigar
(55:40):
because he's gonna go put the work in that ship?
Is that ship is is uh infectious as well? Bruh?
And I mean you know, like I'm like I learned.
I try and learn from every every situation, trying to
learn from uh every person that all the ship. So
I mean as much as you, I mean, we talk
about it like having y'all come to the house, like
(56:02):
that ship is is eye opening to me because now
I'm getting to look at it from you, I mean,
for three four different different perspectives and to see how
y'all see shipping. Okay, yeah, but I can learn from that.
So I mean, you know, just as much as like
you were saying about you helping, like that's that's that's
my ship, you know what I mean, That's that's where
(56:24):
all of this ship come from. I don't know how
many uh Doug's clients done came through me, and he
always talked about, you know, he only take three percent
and all that other kind of agent bullshit he be running.
But I'm like a lot of these clients ain't really yours.
Br like I didn't be it on the phone joking
plays like yeah, we need to come sign over here,
(56:46):
and you know what I mean talking about. So, I mean,
we gotta we gotta figure out I don't know how
many costs he had you make, but we gotta find
a way to get our back pay on you know
what I mean, our fine fear.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Se.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Hey, but here's the deal, Marshaun. I remember back in
the day he told me Max, he said, fresh, don't
come at me crooked, And I never did and here's
the deal. Max, We're gonna let you go. But I
got to tell you something, Man, this has been really
cool and I'm really praying that a year from now
you're in the super Bowl. Okay in our backyard in
the Bay Area. You're gonna get there. Your rock star
(57:21):
in terms of what your story, where you came from,
what you've done, how you've lived your life. Can't be
more proud of you and your five year sobriety thing
coming up. You're living life like you have no idea.
And congrats to you, Max and everything you're doing. Man,
the sky's limit for you as a person, as a player,
and your role model. So many people, bro and really
(57:41):
really excited if you join us today. I can't thank
you enough, man, and we look forward to seeing you soon.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Hey Man, No, for real, I appreciate every every minute
we spend together. You know what I mean. I love
you guys for real, like you we're in this ship forever.
So I love all.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Just bullet proof, my boy. Love is bullet prove.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Now, Max, get back to work. You're ready for the
next year super Bowl. I know you got to get
back to therapy right now.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Rehab time I'll see y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
H m
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Hm.
Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw be Small Lynch.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knew someone you're listening.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
To politics, you're knowing to be you're known to be.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Marshawn, my guy, how are you? Buddy fresh?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You're talking to me like I was just which's handing? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Damn cool? Cool, cooling?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
As you know, Marshawn and our listeners need to know,
our partner is down for a few weeks. That is
Gavin the governor. He's dealing with some stuff in La
as we know, and we want to wish everybody in
La all the best. In fact, we're just there and uh,
I think they're doing an incredible job out there as
we know. So he's doing some stuff out there, so
he won't be with us for a few weeks. But
(00:45):
guess what, me and you are going to be here.
We're gonna hold the ship down.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Aren't we gotta hold it now?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Feeling we'll hold it down for a partner. But he's
going to be listening.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, Batman doing bad Man doing Batman things right now.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's why he's Batman.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's why he's Batman Man, so Moreshawn.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
As you know, with with our partner not being here
this week, Gavin, we wanted to not not do an episode,
but this week's super Bowl week. Obviously you've been in
the super Bowl twice. It's a huge week and for
the fans to kind of hear more about it. We
want to make sure this show goes on this week
to talk about a lot of super Bowl stuff as well.
So we're excited about getting some stories today and some
(01:19):
things that you know, you and I have been through together.
I do think I've lost a few years off my
life with your Super super Bowl story. We can talk
about later back in Arizona, but before we get to
that stuff today, I was with you yesterday and I
got to be honestly, I was really proud of you
because I come in and it's your first movie premier
(01:42):
about to do. So take me through your mindset yesterday
as you're kind of leading up to the premiere, and
how was your first premiere?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
To be honest, it was it was solid, bron I
ain't gonna hold you. I had a hell of fun.
I did have hell of fun, but the highlight to
movie was a yeah. I mean I got to walk
the brother with my grandmother and my and my mama,
and yeah, I mean to see them, you know, I
mean get dolled up and ship and throw that shit on.
(02:10):
That was That was probably the highlight of my my
fucking night yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
How would you compare that to the super Bowl week
with your mom and grandma coming to the games.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's so look, I wanted to know that, right, So
I asked my mama. I'm like, Mama, real, talk like this,
this this type of ship like this or the super Bowl.
And my Mama answered that shit quick, hell look quick,
oh yeah, super Bowl for shure. It was okay, okay,
you know what I mean. But I never seen my
mama get dressed up like that to go to the
(02:42):
super Bowl. You know, she come comfortable in the motherfucker,
you know what I mean, with her mama Lyn's jersey
on rocket and doing her ship. But to see her
with her dress on, with her makeup done, had her
hair pinned up, had on her little boots and ship, yeah,
I mean, and then my grandma too, Like my grandma
put that shit on too. And I'm like, okay, this
was this was big because you I'll never see them
(03:04):
with makeup and ship on. So yeah, I mean to
do that, but to have them experience that that ship
was big and then you know, the whole cast because
it's probably one of the first time that I ever
just like had to submerge myself into the into the
whole environment and just like doing the acting type ship.
So I got to meet a lot of the where
(03:25):
I don't want to say meet, I got to I
got to build with a lot of the actors. So
you know, I mean seeing them in they element, you
know what I mean, do their thing because that's what
they do. So you know, I just watching that ship
more so like damn it's crazy, but just taking notes
on it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So how was your Did you have anxiety like you
did before a big game or is it when you're
when you're walking the red carpet into the movie when
everyone hasn't seen it. Do you have any anxiety built
up like you did for an NFL game?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Nah, I don't know. No, Yeah, it's too too too
two completely different feelings. Well for me, but while I'm
doing it, while I'm actually doing it, then I kind
of get that feeling as if I'm going out there
to play. But you know, what I mean, because I
don't watch playback and you know, for me to sit
(04:15):
down there for that long to watch that movie, I mean,
that shit is kind of hard too.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So what I mean, it was really cool to see
you in that element in terms of transitioning from a
Hall of Fame NFL career to now this, which is
not normal. People don't normally do this. This isn't the norm,
you know what I'm saying. And to see you in
that element and with your mom and grandma walking the
red carpet and going down it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So it's a really proud moment for me. And that's
why I want to show up yesterday and be there
to the day the kind of witness it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, because you because you surprised the fuck out of me.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well I wanted to be there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Are you surprised the fuck out of me? And it's
crazy because as you're saying that, because I told to it,
uh to it a god like, Hey, yeah, man, I'm
a uh my agent, I mean my agent, I'm a
highlighting ma I'm gonna introduce you to him as ship
I was talking about, you know what I mean from
the entertainment son, when you popped up and I'm like, oh, yeah,
(05:08):
that's my agent. They're like, oh yeah, so cool. Can
we meet them? I'm like, nah, this ain't the right goddamn.
How many agents do you have?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What's funny? Key was like, Doug, I want to talk
to you about a rush movie with Marshan. We can
make a Rush Hour movie slash like the the the
Danny Glover movies and the movie. And I said, I said,
I wait a minute, I'm not the entertainment agent. I
go to the NFL agent and he's like, oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But they know you could get ship done, so that's
why they was fucking with you like that, like yeah,
let's let's get this ship done. We need to lung
and chain and command well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And the cool thing for you, more Seawan, is that
you were in Bottoms and you played a cool character
and this is a totally different character in Love Hurts
and I'm excited for your next role that's gonna be
coming out some point soon too. So you're hitting all
the different genres and hitting all the different character and
it's really really cool to see.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Me hold on fresh bro before we before we get
off that right. So while we were shopping right, tell
my mom my grandma shopping like yeah, hell yeah, I
want to get them some nice dresses and shit, get
all the ship right. So as we're in there, uh,
I see these three you know what I mean, these
three little ladies, you feel me? They kind of just
(06:24):
hanging out in the little area or whatever they got, like,
you know, a seating area. So I'm I see them
and I'm like, damn. They looked like they was fit
to make a move, like, you know, can I get
a picture type shit? So I'm like all right, so
I'm just preparing myself. Man, the three ladies come from
(06:46):
around the little mannequin. It was like, excuse me. I
know this is really random, but uh are you mister
G from Bottoms? And I'm like, oh shit. It caught
me so fucking off guard. Bro, I didn't know how
to respond to the little lady got huh she said, yeah,
I knew it was random, but are you mister G.
(07:07):
I'm like, man, hell yeah, I'm like how you know that?
I all know I loved you and Bottoms Wool And
I'm like I'm sorry. I'm like, you fuck me up
because I'm thinking you finna come over here and tell
me something about some football shit. She's like, no, no, no,
I don't you play football. And I'm like, nah, Now
I'm really fucking like damn, because I was you know,
(07:28):
I was throwed off. I wasn't expecting the little ladies to,
i mean, come in and speak to me, but especially
for you know what i mean, being in a movie.
So I go to the cash register and I'm trying
to check out and my mama looking, you know, behind me,
she looking down and I just see her shaking her
head like don't do that. So as I turn around
(07:51):
and it said, you know, it's a dude. He on
the ground like tying is his his kids shoot And
so when he popped up, I'm like, man, what the
fuck is you? And when I it's the fucking producer
from the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
My mama like no, no, no, don't do that. Don't
do that. She like, I've seen his phone, he had
his camera ready on it. I'm like, Mama, that's the
producer from the movie. I know blood. She like, oh,
because I was goin to tell him, I wouldn't do
that if I was you. But I'm like, oh shit,
but that's kind of let me you know what I mean.
The little lane that you know what I mean has
(08:28):
been created or is moving that shit is is is
you know what I mean in a sense like picking
up and you feel me?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Is?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's different for sure, Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's a very cool thing. And like I said, that's
a great story. And again, everybody, Friday, February seventh, Love
hurts every theater globally. This guy is a star, massive movie.
Come check him out. You will not not be disappointed.
Love hurts. Let's go, baby, Baby.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You are listening to k b il Lakes the.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Smooth No, it was a hell of a movie, my son,
it was a hell of a movie. Guys. We have
a special guest joining us now is one of the
best players in the NFL, not just defensively and offensively,
(09:27):
but players in the NFL, A four time Pro Bowl
player for the Las Vegas Raiders. A defensive end. Special
day for me because it's actually one of my clients
as well, the great mad Max Crosby Joe Mad Max?
What's up baby?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What up? You good?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Hold on? What kind of what kind of brother was
that that sounded too? Brothers? What kind of brother, hey brother?
What kind of hey brother? What kind of brother. Was
that man that was one of them? One a man?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm just saying, is this a safe place for me
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh my god, I'm great. Bro's chilling. Absolutely, it's an honor.
You got two legends of the building right here, Dougie
Fresh and mar shawan amen.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, So before it begin, guys, it's curious. This week
has been crazy, and want to I want to get
into Luca trade real quick because this has been fascinating.
So obviously it's a massive story. You'll probably remember we
were when you heard it when it went down, Max,
and so did more Sean. So I got a question
for you guys, because I'm curious, Like as as people
may not realize when Luca got traded, there's implications. So
(10:33):
he gets traded from Dallas the Lakers. Everyone thinks, Okay,
you're going from Dallas Lakers. This is great, you're playing
with Lebron. But no number one, he's now not eligible
for super Max extension. So in itself, he's going to
lose one hundred and twenty five million.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Dollars not eligible photo legs.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Under the NBA rules, he will not be eligible now
since he switched teams.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So so he'll lose one hundred and twenty five million
dollars by getting traded. Okay. The other thing that no
one talks about, he's now going from zero percent state
taxes okay to thirteen percent taxes. So Luca in itself
is going to make a lose. I would say, roughly,
(11:20):
you know, one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now, he's not an endorsement guys. We know he's not
going to go out and do commercials and things like that.
So I guess my question to you, Max is, as
a player number one, how do you feel about this
in terms of if you're Luca.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
If I'm if I'm Luca, I would be sick to
my stomach thinking about how that went down. What he
just did. He just took them to the finals. I
don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously there's
got to be more to the story, but the fact
that they didn't even have the like respect to have
(11:58):
a conversation and just let him know, like listen, we're
shopping you, we're trying to move on, we love you,
thanks for very service, but we're gonna move on. They
didn't even do that. They did it all behind the
scenes and got rid of him after he literally just
took him to a finals. He had five first team
All nbas in a row. I think it just shows you, how,
you know, it's a double standard when it comes to
loyalty In professional sports, players get held to the highest
(12:20):
standard when it comes to loyalty. If they leave, they're
a diva, the this and that. But if a front
office dumps a guy who's a twenty five year old
generational superstar, they just get to sit back and not
you know, people forget about it. So I think it's
just crazy. I feel like they could have handled that
way better. But we'll see how it turns out. But
I think, I mean, they could have got so much
more for Luca. I think I think the Mavericks made
(12:42):
a massive mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But Max, you're you're pissed off. You're pissed off. He
got straighted. But once Luca finds out he actually lost
this money.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, to answer your question, yeah, to the money part,
I mean, you got to be sick to your stomach.
I mean, he's literally was eligible for five for three
forty five, like he's about to break the bank and
now he's losing a lot of money. So I think
it's just gonna put an extra chip on his shoulder.
He's gonna he's gonna be on a war path. I
have no doubt in my.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Mind, Marshawn, how would you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm still trying to get over five tree forty five?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, that's what he would have gotten if he stayed
in Dallas. Now he can't get that much. But it's interesting, Marshawn.
I've been I've been through a trade with you, and
I got you traded, uh from Buffalo to Seattle. The
second question, Max is how pissed are you at me
as the agent? If you're if you don't know you're
getting traded, and you're getting traded and you lose one
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hundred and fifty million bucks? Are you looking at me
sideways like Doug? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Fuck? Yes? What I'm fucking I'm storming y'all's office? What
if you coming? How do you not see that shit coming?
I can't even believe they can I can't. I didn't
even think they could do that shit, you know what
I mean. I can't believe that they kept it that
quiet talking about those biggest superstars to all NBA. This
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never happened in NBA history, having two NBA guys getting
traded for each other.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So hold on them. Niggas didn't know that, they no.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Idea that an idea, didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was completely between the GM and Rob the Lincoln
for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Nobody else that's one of them. Uh, let's sit down
and have a.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Cigar on meeting yep, one hundred percent, and.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Then motherfucker's down probably had both of them, probably have
one too many shots and was like trade them, the
trade them then all right, I'm gonna call your bluff
and the motherfucker probably just like shit.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But Max, knowing that you're still pissed at me, like
I don't care what you have to know, I'm the money,
I'm losing, like I'm I'm You're you're not happy.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I might never look at you the same. I don't
think we might. We might not talk again.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Hey, and you know why, Hey, And look, I agree
with you because Doug, you just know random weird ass
fucking ship so and you tapped in and you are
one of the ones that probably would be sitting down
having the cigar with the motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Too, Yeah for you.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But if it was a different agent, then I yeah,
I might be able to say, all right, let them
motherfucking get away, but you nah, but yeah, that just
that just going to show you though, like, man, this
motherfucking businesses is cut throat, and you like you were saying, like,
don't nobody got nothing that I mean, nobody got an
answer to that. And then there's more so like oh, man, nigga,
(15:23):
eat my shiny ass toys, Like, don't tell me how
to play with my toys. Nigga, he's my toys. I'm
doing but they showing it. Can you say that two
superstars and this nigga. Luca was up for three foties
five and they just got Ridicus and then they sent
them to So look, first thing, first, we gotta go
talk to Gavin about these taxes in California. We gotta,
(15:45):
you know what I mean, figure out. We gotta figure that.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Out off of Lucas stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Max.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Obviously, your your main goal, I know, is to play
the Super Bowl. Morshawn's been in two and that's your
goal ultimately, like every NFL player is. For those people
that don't understand Super Bowl we we know the game,
but for Super Bowl Week, can you tell the listeners
Max and more Sean what the week's like in the
city where it's at. You were in Vegas last year
with their Max and you're going into New Orleans this year.
(16:11):
Tell me tell the listeners what the week is like,
the entire week of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, you know, obviously Marshan could speak more to the
experience as a player. You know. For me, obviously never
been getting ready for a Super Bowl. But the week
in Vegas was an absolute party. Basically from Monday to Monday,
the whole city. You can't even drive your car. Like
we had an event. We had to do a live
show last year with ap for the podcast and we
(16:42):
were stuck in such stuck traffic we had to jump
out on the strip. This is the middle of the strip,
jump out with my boys, and we ran across the
damn strip to get to the casino so we would
be late for our own show. You could not move, So, yeah,
it's a complete riot. I heard New Orleans is like
that too, Like it's super compact. That's a good thing
(17:03):
because you don't have to go as far. But Vegas
a little more spread out, so yeah. I heard New
Orleans about to be crazy and people are there on
a Monday. I heard it's already jumping. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I think for the listeners, they don't understand. They think
they see the game Sunday, but there's parties and events
and day parties, night parties from Monday through Sunday. Companies
and events and gifting suites and media row and it's
it's uh, it's unbelievable. Marshall. What's what's your best super
Bowl store You've been out other than the game? Give
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me your best story, Marshall. And you've had at a
Super Bowl New.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
York trying to get back to bed check before you
get that goddamn one hundred thousand dollars fine from missing
bed check. And I ran through that fucking tunnel. What's
the tunnel from New York to Jersey. H the Lincoln Tunnel,
But I had to run through that fucking tunnel to
get back to uhit.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
A minute, You actually ran through the tunnel, man.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
The same one of the same situations. I had to
get to that mother fucking room where they was going.
You fear me I was gonna get here with one
of them fins, bro, I'm calling secure. Hey, I'm on
my way, bloodlet me. I got about like ten minutes
to get back in that bitch, bro. I knew we
was gonna make it in that whip, so I had
to be feet get for a quick fast and I
started running. That was That was. I told somebody, that
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was the the hardest that I ran that whole week,
because I ain't I ain't do shitting the super Bowl
square touchdown. But my longest run was probably like maybe
fifteen fifteen yards or something. So that run from in
that tunnel back to the room with the hardest. I
went all for the week, but I was tired of him.
(18:40):
And then I mean, you know, we didn't. We Didnet
did this shit for many many moons. Man, nothing new
under the old move. But we been doing this shit
for a long ass time. To be super Bowl little,
you know what I mean. But as soon as I
started getting about to say the pleasure to play in them, yeah,
I mean, they they started to become you know, a
(19:00):
little you know what I mean, water down, because I'm like,
now I'm a custom to playing in the Super Bowl,
and you know, I mean, you really you really be
tucked off in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
To where you can.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean enjoy it the way that you want to.
So when you not, when you're not playing it, you
just got all access to that ship. I mean it
did becomes a long drawn out ass function like oh yeah,
I don't had enough for this ship enough.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Hey, well Max, Max, You're up for a really cool
honor Walter Payton Man of Your Award on Thursday at
NFL Honors and it congrats to you, by the way,
congratulations And for the listeners out there, there's thirty two
uh nominees from every team and then they announced the
winner Thursday night. And the cool thing is our our
family Snoop is going to be the host, which is
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going to be fun for you. So take me through
what that honor is for you and how that how
that means, what that means for you to be a nominee,
and how excited would you be to.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Win that thing? Yeah, no, I would. You know, it's
just honored to be mentioned in that conversation, you know
what I mean. Growing up you see you know the
Walter Payman of the Year and how how big of
an award that is and just being a part of that,
you know, the legacy behind it, means everything to me,
you know, for me, you know this, you know you
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guys have known me for years, but it truly nothing
makes me happier than giving to others. And that's really
what it's all about. It's not about getting the credit
or getting the spotlight because I'm doing stuff in the community,
Like I really do a lot of stuff behind the
scenes that doesn't even get noticed or people know about.
Because that's just truly who I am, you know what
I mean, and that that gives me joy as a
human beings. So to be honored and recognized for it,
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it's an honor, you know, just being It's it's the
National Football League, the biggest, most probably the greatest association
in the on the planet, you know what I mean.
You got some of the most powerful respected people in
the world, and you got you know, ownership, and people
like Dad nominate me for this award. It's humbling, to
say the least, but yeah, I'm excited. You know, we'll
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see what happens, regardless if I win it or not.
Just being a part of it, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, it's a huge honor. It's the biggest honor of
any player can get. Is getting that nominee, and like
I said, good luck to you on Thursday. Max. I
know you're a competitor, and I know you are pissed
(21:34):
off at the fucking moon that you're not in the
super Bowl. So the question for you is will you
watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I watched every Super Bowl. I don't
know if I think you know this, Doug, but I
told you, like since I was a rookie, like, I'm
not going to the super Bowl unless I'm in it,
you know what I mean. I've stood to my word.
Last year was the first time I had to go
because I had to be on the field for the
Walter Payton deal. But I literally I left the field
(22:02):
and went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and went to
the cigar lines. I went to eight lounges. So, my god,
I need to spend one minute watching that game. I
had to do an obligation. I think it's a Marriott suite.
They're like, you got to come up here. It'll be
ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They're paying me some ridiculous amount just to come and
shake some man's kissing babies. I'm like, fuck it, We're
going up there real quick. I went up the elevator
boom and I went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and that
was it, you know what I mean. So until I'm
in the super Bowl, that's when I'll watch the super
Bowl and be a part of that. Like I want
to be the one in the in the heat. But
I was with my people chilling.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hey, you know what, I think that's the thing though,
what you mean. I think what you just said, like
not going to the super Bowl unless I'm playing in it,
especially while you're playing, because that that was the same shit.
I'll book up until Sunday. If I can get out
Saturday night, I'll get out Saturday night. If not, Sunday morning,
(22:54):
I'm on a flight and out of that. Yeah, I'm gone, bro.
So I think that's like a thing though, So so
when you do playing it, because I ain't gonna lie man,
I if it's anything I would say about it, it's
like the ceremony when we did win, and uh, what's
it called in New York? Like I was in the
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locker room when all the shit had popped off, the
you know, the confetti, the trophy, this that and all
that shit. So when I come out, you know, I
had went go grab moms and you know what I mean,
the rest of my family, all the confetti is down
and ship day up on the stage doing all the shit. Yeah,
I mean, had I had, I ye know what I mean,
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knew better. I maybe would her, you know, I mean,
try to see what that shit was all about. Because
then I'm like, oh, you know what, fuck it. I'll
just keep that ship next year.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
The situation that we have so.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, Max was funny back to back years. This is
literally the date is almost an anniversary. He wins the
super Bowl in New York against Denver, comes off the field,
no joke. I go get him a hug and say, hey,
great with He's like, man, where's my money? I said,
what do you mean? Because we're going through contract stuff.
He's like, where's my fucking money? Go talk to the
GM right now about my money? I said, more Shaan.
The game ended thirty minutes ago. He's like, I don't care,
(24:11):
go talk to Schneiner about getting me my new deal.
And he was dead serious. I'm like, bro, I'm like,
you got to give me a day. So anyways, that
was that day. A year later, no joke, is when
we're in Arizona. What he didn't get the ball? So
I'm waiting from outside the locker room. This time, it
wasn't about where's my money? It was like, what the
hell just happened? And that's when he gets in the
(24:33):
car with me and Gavin and we roll out of
there with the bottle of Hennessy and some other things,
Uh to go meet Snoop.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But those were.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Back to back years as far as his mindset right
after the game, you know what I mean. So that
was pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You're you're one of You're one of one, my son,
I'll say, yeah, you're a special individ.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Hey, look, we're gonna we're gonna spare you, bro, because
we know you got to keep your show going and
you being a good host and ship. So we gonna
let you cook, just keep cooking, and then we're gonna
get into it because I ain't gonna let you get
up out of here without you know, I mean, we
gotta show a little peace from love. Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, Matt, Max, who do you root for? Then you
root for the Eagles, you root for the chiefs like
you can't stand the chiefs. That would imagine in your division.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'm not rooted for shit. At the end of the day,
I hate the Chiefs. Obviously they're in the division. I
think Philly's gonna win, I truly do. I think Saquan
is gonna do the Super Bowl MVP. But I don't
root for anybody, you know. It's talking about like the
super Bowl thing, like not going to the Super Bowl.
Like imagine Kobe going and watching fucking somebody else watching
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the Pistons play another team in the finals, Like the
fuck I would never do it, you know what I mean. So,
like I'm not rooting for shit, and so like I
want to be in that as a competitor, Like that's
all I think about is winning. I gotta watch these
other guys rust the quarterback when I should be fucking
on the field putting on the show. Like that's that's
what I look at it, you know, as it has
So I'm gonna be watching, of course, but I don't root.
(25:58):
I don't root for either one, you know what.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But for both of you guys, it's curious my question
for both of you guys, watching that game is as
hard as it is to watch, does it also fuel
you like no other in terms of going God damn it.
I have to get here next year because I got
I bet. Watching the game and seeing the whole day
of TV and all the stuff building up to it,
it's got to piss you off even more not playing it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh yeah, I want to be in it. Like I
know Mars Marshon had the opportunity twice to be in
a Super Bowl. Like I've been in one playoff game
in six years. Like I watch these playoffs and the
fucking every year it gets harder and harder, you know
what I mean. Like that's all I want to do.
Like I've done cool individually, I've had success and Pro
Bowls and All Pros. All that stuff is cool, But
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like I want to be winning Super Bowls and being
in the biggest games.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No doubt, I tell you, there's a big dog. Consider
that I'm being on the shit will Pop saying you
win some, you lose some, but you live, you live
to find another day. And being being on the both
sides winning they losing one. Like realistically, blurr. It ain't
no feeling like it. It ain't no feeling like it.
(27:06):
We were just talking before you came on here about
uh and my mama is the one that put it
in perspective. Uh, because we just did the movie premiere
for Love Hurt, And after the movie I went and
asked my mom. I'm like, hey, mama, because you walk
the red carpet and did the whole ship. So I'm like, man,
(27:28):
what you think was more? You know, I mean more?
What was more excited for you when going to the
super Bowl and doing that ship or walking this red
carpet to see me on the on the big screen ship.
My mama said it with no fucking hesitation at all.
Nigga winning the super Bowl? Yeah, come on, winning the
super Bowl? What what? What else on me? I'm like, well,
(27:50):
there you go. Put that ship in perspective quick. It
wasn't even no thought about it. That's where I'm like,
damn did I I mean, because I don't want to
say a last line about it, but it's like, all right,
I expect that, like we play this fort, like we
put in the hours, you know what I mean. Motherfuckers
know that they you know what I mean, dogs got
(28:12):
that ship, So I expect. I expected, you know what
I mean. It's a matter of time, but I expected.
And now what I want to get into is you
got you know. I mean one of them dudes over
there with you now who I know can set a
foundation and from what I believe, like, you're gonna be
(28:32):
the centerpiece to that. You're gonna be the building blocks
and you're gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you're talking about Pete Carroll right more? Shall I
talk about Pete Carroll?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, You're gonna be the You're gonna be the centerpiece
and the foundation to the building blocks that that motherfucker
want to you know what I mean put in to
bring to do his ship. And you know what I
mean just when we talk a little a couple of
days ago, like like I love that shit. That was
(29:01):
probably the most important thing you could have said. And
once he understands that, he gonna ride the ship out
of your mindset and he's gonna hammer it into every
individual that come into that motherfucker office, and there's gonna
be no way in the world that y'all shouldn't be
(29:24):
able to build what exactly it is that you see
for the writers to be brother for gonna take your
mindset and he gonna make motherfuckers adapted to it. And
I believe that there's gonna be some saucy shit because
you're bump head with this all the time, Like because
he wanted he wanted me to be that guy. Yeah,
(29:44):
and I'm like, nah, nigga, ain't me You know what
I mean. I when it's time to go to work
ni again, then you know what's happening. But before that, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Gonna be tired.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'll be trying to save all my energy. So you
know what I mean, We're gonna have to figure something
else out, but we will bump here. He is but
another fuck that I've seen to have that type of
mindset and that type of energy that you've got. He
build with that shit, He's gonna be right there. I
wouldn't be surprised if he come and lined up next
to you on your get off just to see if
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he could beat you.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So Max, how's the vibe there? How's it been? I
know he's just got hired and there's no practice stuff.
But how how excited are you to have Pete there?
Of what you've heard about him from me and Marshaun
and watching him. How excited are you guys right now
in that building?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah? You know, we have a good amount of guys
here right now, just working out and and starting to
get back in the groove of things. You know, I've
been here. You know, I started my off season early
because you know, my injury you know, was probably with
four weeks left in the season. So I've been here.
So just seeing kind of the transition from you know,
obviously with Ap getting fired to who's going to be
(30:52):
the next head coach? Is gonna be this guy's and
be that guy? Like it's just been kind of like
quiet and weird a little bit, But once Pete got
the job, he doesn't play around like it's funny. I
was talking to I ran by the GM earlier, you know,
where I was getting breakfast, and he was like, yeah,
he's like, Pete's got like this big ass JBL speaker
(31:12):
up there. He goes, Now everybody's got JBL speakers. He goes,
It sounds like a frat house, you know, upstairs we're
playing music. And he just said, the energy is just
off the chart. So that's how Pete is. Obviously, having
you guys who've known him for so long, it's kind
of prepared me in that way. But it's it's kind
of weird because he legitimately like just having a conversation
with him, sitting down and talking to him. He reminds
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me of my college coach in so many ways it
freaks me out, Like like literally my coach creating that
Eastern Like this dude was no matter what, he would
have a mini who probably be like he's like all energy,
grab the ball and he's white Beard, the dude sixty
some years old. It does not matter. He's competing no
matter what. And you're like, you look at him, You're
like brothers. He like, is he seriously? Is he like
(31:54):
he knows He's like that every day. He doesn't matter
what time it is. He is on a million all
the time. So like just talking to him, I'm like
this is this feels right? You know what I mean?
Like that's the first time I had I'm like, this
feels like what is supposed to feel like.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
When he got hired, you know, as Marshan knows, he
let Moreshean be and more. Shawn, after Marshawn had that conversation,
quickly said no, no, no, I'm not doing this stuff.
I'm doing being me and he'll let you be you
as well too. And you've already your an iconic brand,
which is which is awesome, So that's gonna be exciting. Hey,
Matt question, No one really knows Max like Brady's involvement.
Obviously the greatest quarter backt of all time. He's doing
(32:30):
Fox stuff there. How involved is he with you? Do
you know him well? With the Raiders? Is he involved?
Is he there? Is he talking to you guys? What's
his involvement with you guys from a team standpoint?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, from what I've heard and obviously what I've seen, Like,
I know he's he's definitely working behind the scenes, you know,
putting things together. You know, Mark has that trust in him.
He came here to be you know, get part ownership,
to be involved and make an impact on this on
this organization. So I know he's a competitor, so he's
not just coming in as an investment opportunity. He wants
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to win. So that's what I love about him. You know,
at the end of the day, he's a winner. Nobody's
won more Super Bowls than Tom Brady. And I do
have a great relationship with him. I've known him for
the last few years. We text each other, you know,
here and there and keeping touch and obviously you know,
I work with Alex he does all my body work.
You know, we work every single day three sixty five.
So yeah, we've been connected for a while now. So
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it's it's exciting and seeing what they're doing, the moves
they're making, like they're not sparing a dime, you know
what I mean, not trying to save money. There's made
you know, brought in chip Kelly. You know, I've been
a bucket offense I was a kid. So seeing chip
Kelly after one and Natty get paid the way he
got paid, Like, they're not messing around. They're trying to
win now, and that's the most encouraging thing that that's
what'spent like the most encouraging things so far. Like they're
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not playing around, They're they're making moves now, they're being
aggressive and looking forward to seeing how how the rest
of that plays out.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So, guys, put your GM hats on, since I know
you both know football, put your GM hat on. Do
you draft a rookie quarterback in this draft or do
you take someone in free agency? Do you bring Aaron
Rodgers back for one year or do you draft one
of these young guys? What do you guys?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think you get a vet you bring in a
vet who's done it before. And you also draft a guy.
If you like a guy enough in the draft to
take him high, you do that as well, so you
kind of get you know, you get a bridge guy
and then develop a young guy behind him. You see
my homes. You know, I had to sit a year.
It's probably the best thing, the best thing ever happened.
You know. You see Aaron Rodgers, you see Jordan Love.
Those guys sat for years and then boom they once
(34:29):
they were stepped into that role, they're ready to rock.
So yeah, I feel like, you know, if I was
a GM, that's what I would do. But we'll see.
You know, that's that's why they got those titles. Not me.
You know, I'm here to dominate and and and wreck
the game. But trust me, I know it matters. I
know it matters what they gotta do.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Even your involvement in that them. Hearing you say that, yeah,
I mean having that conversation with him, because you got
to remember when it was weird when I'm sitting there
listening to Pete talk at that uh, at that pressure,
that motherfucker talking about, Well I ain't I ain't coming
here to rebuild. I came in here to win right now.
Oh yeah, I came in here to win right now.
(35:13):
And the thing is it is weird because I mean,
you know, seeing this old ass up there and talk
that shit like like, damn, bro, you still like you
still on that ship, like you always on this hype
like to go there. And the thing is he really
he really serious about that shit. So I mean, you
know what I mean, I could see that that happening.
(35:35):
And I mean I'm not too you know, privy to
the conversations that he having behind closed doors, but I
know he he can do some shit with with Russ
that he's able to bring shit out of him. Like
I just I just witnessed it. And it's almost like,
you know, I mean, until you know whatever the situation
was that they had going on up in Seattle, But
(35:57):
you know what I mean, with time, you know, time,
he'll let so if they have been talking, and the
way that Russell ended the last season, he's the motherfucker
that be able to get him over that hump or
put him in position to make Yeah, I mean him
one of those elite quarterbacks that he did for so
(36:18):
many years before, Like I don't know that motherfucker the
whispers to Russell Win it till me that kind of shit.
He get him to play in ways and I.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Agree, you get him, and you get a young guy
come in as well. One hundred percent. And it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Max.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
We talk about this all the time. Unlike baseball and basketball,
football you can turn the thing around in a year.
I always say this to the owner, Mark Davis. I said,
you have one of the most iconic brands in the world,
not just football but world Yankees, Red Sox Man, you,
et cetera. You got no state taxes, you got the
best facility, you got the best stadium, and every player
(36:52):
wants to be a Raider. You can turn this thing
around and flip it very quickly in terms of what
needs to be done. And as Marshaun said, your voice
is very very well event because you are the cornerstone
of that team. You are the franchise player of that team,
and you are going to be winning Super Bowls. I
guarantee you that. And you're never going to be traded
without me knowing you're going to being traded, Otherwise you
might get mad at me. How you doing. Hey, I
(37:22):
got a question, Max, And this is significant and it's
very it's very real to me, and and and it's
really cool. You know, you're coming up on five years
of a really important date, okay, your sobriety, And and
for people don't know, I believe it's on March twelfth.
I believe Max March eleven, March eleventh is your five
year anniversary of sobriety, which is fucking congrats, dude, very okay,
(37:49):
can you let can you let people know? Because I
know it's open, you've been open to it. How how
dark you were five years ago? Uh this week, I
should say, leading up to you and sobriety, I mean
you were in a dark spot.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Hell yeah, No, for sure, I was at my lowest
of lows. I think that's everybody's got their own story,
you know what I mean, Everyone's got their own demons
and everyday battles. And for me, I think that was
the one thing that was holding me back my whole life,
from being the best version of myself. Just realistically, from
the moment I took my first drink and smoked my
(38:23):
first blunt and whatever that was, like I knew right away,
like I was in love with it, and it runs
in my family. I wasn't you know, I've seen it's
i'n been on both sides of my family. I've seen
it up close. And for me, it's like I knew
from the day I started drinking. I love it way
too much, you know what I mean. And it at
first it was a lot of fun, but I knew
(38:44):
I had no control. I just got worse and worse
over time. So yeah, everybody's got their own shit, like
whether you want to hide it or not, Everyone's got
their own problems. And for me, like I always try
to hold it in and like hide it from the
world and act like everything was normal. And then my
behavior was just getting worse and worse and worse. And
I was doing crazier ship and getting in trouble and
(39:05):
doing all types of ship. But it got to a
point I hit my rock bottom, like I legitimately.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well you big ass dude, Bro, I don't know it. Man,
to see your big ass running around loaded like your
tripping bro was you was out there calling what's up?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Looking at beat your ass a little.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Out with this big ass man. This yella big man. Bro.
We got a whoop out man yellow big No.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I was I was out of control, Bro, I'd getting fights,
crazy ass ship all the time like that just it
was wild. But at the end of the day, it's
the best thing that ever happened to me because I
know I wouldn't be in this position right now. I
wouldn't be able to get a second contract now going
to be a third contract, wouldn't be able to be
in this situation to provide for the people I provide
for without cleaning that part of my life up, and
(39:59):
to be the play you know that I am like
I wasn't my first two years in the league. Like
I was doing well, but I wasn't who I was,
you know what I mean? Who I am now and
where I'm going, Like if I didn't get that straight,
I don't know where i'd be. I don't know if
i'd be here.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Was there one moment where you said, do you remember
the moment you said I have to stop doing this?
Do you remember that particular minute of the day.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
One hundred percent? I absolutely, I'll never forget it. Like
you know, everybody's rock Bottom is different. I feel like
that's everyone talks about rock Bottom and they think of
like these crazy extremes, like even in college, like I
had wrecked my car, got a duy. That wasn't enough,
Like that wasn't my rock bottom I had been in,
you know, woke up fucking having no idea where the
(40:39):
hell I am type shit like blackout, wake up, where
the fucking my at, trying to find my phone Like
that wasn't rock bottom for me. It was waking up
in my own house, in this my first house in Vegas,
alone in my house, sweat like literally sweat through the
sheets of my bed, like I felt I was like
on a fucking bender for a while, I looked myself
in the mirror and like I didn't even recognize myself.
(41:01):
That was when I got on the phone. I called,
obviously called CJ and you and Rachel and everybody that
I've been closest with, like I need to get help,
Like I'm literally I don't even fucking know what I'm doing.
Hell yeah, bro everybody, Like I was like, I need
to go, and they kidnapped my ass legitimately took me
out of my crib. I was literally, ironically like I
(41:23):
was trying to go back to the fucking gas station
like ten in the morning to go get some more
booze and shit and black and miles ironically shit, and
I was going to get some black and Miles and
they literally pulled into my driveway and they're like, go
back in the crib, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
What Seal Team six mission Marshawn Sealed Team Sex right now.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Real Team six. And they were on my ass and
they sat and it was it was our guy. And
he sat there and just looked at me and just
damn near twenty four hours, I'm like, I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
But you you in the mirror, Maxo, you look back.
You said, who is this dude?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't recognize. I legitimately was like
I've never been I've never felt like this in my life.
Like I've always been like I was a middle child.
I always had to go above and beyond to prove myself.
And I feel like that's why I fell in love
with it so much originally because I could like be
more outgoing and have more confidence and shit like that.
But over time it just became my like I was
(42:20):
just fucking wild, like I couldn't just it's not about
the tenth drink that you have, it's about the first one.
And every time I took one, I didn't know where
the fuck that night he was gonna go. I would
end up at a strip club at three in the morning.
Have no idea that I even did it, you know
what I mean, like all time, you know, yeah, like
that was what it was. And I'm open about it
and real about it because that's who I was, And like,
(42:42):
I'm most proud that I could say that, Like I
truly I don't give a shit, Like I think it's
hilarious people give me shit about how I used to
be because it makes me even happier that, Like I'm
in this position now because I knew how fucking wild
I was. I was completely out of control. So it's like, yeah,
I was a fucking shit show. My big ass was
run around wreaking.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
How well Marshawn, I'm gonna I'm gonna share this story, Marshawn,
And I know Max knows he was there, but it
was pretty cool. It was about a year ago. I'm
at dinner with Mark Davis and Max and we're at
this old school stake place in Vegas and ravin dinner,
just us three and this this waitress cames up and
she's like, Hey, you know, could you mind if I
come by and say something. And she looks at Max
(43:20):
and says, and she starts crying and says, you changed
my entire family's family life. And we're like, what do
you mean. She's like, when you went to rehab, my husband,
who is the father of my two kids, thought he
had his life under control and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It was.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
It was they were about ready to get divorced. He
was gonna do bad stuff. And because Max went to rehab,
her husband went to rehab and he's been sober now
I think four or five years as well. And she
started breaking down and gave Max a hug and said,
because of you, you saved my family and my kid's father,
(43:56):
and for that, I can never be as great as
I am I And she started balling and all she
wanted was give Max a hug. Yeah, and Max, that
was so inspirational to hear that. I imagine you get
that a lot from everybody in life that knows your
story about how you've overcome that and how you've changed
other people's families as well from hearing your story.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
No, that's that's that's what it's all all about. Like,
that's why I came, you know, I went public about
it because I've seen guys like Darren Waller, you know,
sharing his story and he's so open about it, you
know at that time, and he's my teammate, and I'm like, damn,
like that could be me, you know what I mean,
and the impact he was making, I'm like I could
really go out and make an impact and help others,
(44:39):
like in my whole life, like when you're drinking, you're
in that addiction, like all you care about is yourself,
Like and I know myself, like I got I got
a big ass heart, Like I care about others more
than anything, and for me, like this is a real
chance or I can give back to others and make
an impact on people's life. So yeah, that's you know
that instance, Like I was completely not I was thrown
(44:59):
off that like holy shit, like this is unbelievable. But
like I get messages all the time, like I screenshot
all of them, Like people message me out of nowhere
saying like, you know, listen, I got sober because of you.
I would fucking die to meet you. And you know
what I mean, You like that that means more than
you know, more to me than anything, because that's what
it's about, Like you can be a great player, you
(45:22):
can have a great career things like that, But like
the icons in the game really impacted human beings. Like
I look at guys like Kobe, like Kobe really just
with his mentality to the game and what he did
and how he approached it. Like people talk talk about
Kobe to this day, and he hasn't been here for years.
You know, obviously, God rest his soul and his daughter,
But like that's the type of impact he made. He
(45:44):
changed people's lives, and that's that's just as important as anything.
Like obviously I care about my play and being an
you know, Hall of Fame player and all that, but
like being able to really make change that shit, that
shit goes forever. That's where you build statues about and
people talk about. Is really taking the time to go
out and help and impact others. So yeah, stuff like
(46:04):
that is it means the world for real.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well, and that's cool, and that's and that's how you
want to be remembered.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Max.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You're obviously a great your great father to your daughter,
and and those are the things that are legacy things
that you want to be remembered that way. And you
know you've always talked is cool and Marshaan, I'm gonna
share something with you. He's always admired you more, Shawn
in terms of how you've handled your career and you know,
saved your money and invested in things and Max talk
about your your strategy now is obviously you're an investor
(46:30):
in in barre knuckle fighting. You and Dana White are
very very close. That's a big mentor to you. Have
you always been a UFC fan in regards to that
that fight, that sport and fighting.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, you know, to to answer your first you know
question you know about Marshawn. I know Doug. You know
Doug is not not lying when he says that the
reason I went with Peter as my financial advisor, I
legitimately you guys CEJ. I went in there. I said,
who does Marshawn have? Because when I was in college,
I watched one of your interviews and you're talking about
money and how you need to save it and you know,
(47:04):
invest it in the right shit. And like I was
sitting there as a kid, like I didn't know nothing
about money. I didn't have a business degree, none of that.
My family, I didn't grow up with money. So it's
like I always learned from Afar and just watch videos,
and you were literally the guy talking about it that
inspired me. So I came in, I met with CJ.
And ironically, Peter is the financial advisor that you guys,
one of the financial guys you would, you know what
(47:26):
it's called advice or push out to other people. So
I'm like, whoever that is, I want him. Whoever Marshaun's got,
I want that guy. And that's before I ever met you.
And so I met with Peter. Immediately, I'm like, this
is my guy. And then years later I get I
get connected with Mitch, and me and Mitch are locked in,
you know what I mean? Because I was seeing it,
like I seen guys like Dana, like being in Vegas.
I've spent time with Floyd and Dana. Like these guys
are really building an empire, and like that's something I
(47:49):
take a lot of pride in. And I see you
in movies and you got ownership and hockey team and
you got all this shit going on. I'm like, that's
what I want to be, Like I want to want
I'm want to really build something that's forever and build
real wealth. And so that's why Fair and Nuncle you
know Slate Milk with Dana, like Dana I met. I
met these guys in Boston with Dana, and now you
see Slate Milk and the damn Octagon now and they're
(48:09):
promoting that everywhere and I got a piece of it.
Me and Dana are in that together. So it's like
there's so many things, you know, from real estate to
I can go on and on, but like that investment
side of me, that like hunger to just build something
huge off the field, that came from looking up to
guys like you and seeing you do the right way.
And I'm not just saying that because we're here, but
(48:29):
like I've never even told you this before, like we're
boys like, but I've never told you that you before
I even knew you, Like I truly wanted to build
that empire. And you inspired me for sure.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Hey man, you know what, I appreciate that, And yeah,
I mean considering where I'm at in my life right
now because everybody they they ask for advice and shit,
right and then just listening to you list off everything
that you got going on and the shit that you're
interested in and the shit that you're doing, Like you said,
you can go on and on for the real estatesments
(48:58):
to the slate milk. Yeah, I mean the very nuckles.
The biggest thing, br that I've actually learned through all
of this shit. It's like, it's not even about the investing.
It's not even about yeah, I mean having these things
that you I mean, that you can reach out, you
can see, that you can touch, that you can be
involved with. It's more so about the knowledge and the information. Like,
(49:26):
as long as you don't lose your niche to inform yourself,
you gonna continue to grow. Once you get to a
point and it's like, oh, I got it, I understand it,
I know what's up. That's when shit started, you know,
I mean, go back down. But as long as you
keep the mindset to I could get better. I can
(49:48):
learn something new or let me see, let me try it,
let me. As long as you keep that type of
shit going on, you'll continue. You'll continue, You'll continue to grow, bro,
and it it'll take you the lift that you didn't
even know. And then listening to you when you talk
about like you know what I mean about Peter and shit,
I remember you with and Waller come to the house, bro. Yeah,
(50:12):
and I'm like and I'm thinking to myself, like, you
know what I mean. I come to the house and
you know what I mean, I'm like, damn, I'm like,
I'm not a what you call that, like a host
and all that all you gotta put all this ship out.
So I'm like, I don't got nothing. All I had
was some what's some Hennessy, But so man, I bro,
(50:34):
I put Hella Hennessy on the table, like fuck it.
I you know what I mean. I have a drink
with my niggas like what's that and Peter like what
you're doing? Bro, I'm like, well shit, you know, He's like, nah,
that ain't that ain't the look like you gotta put
that ship up.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I'm like, oh, so when y'all come here, I'm trying
to take the bottles of tuckle like nah, it's good, bro,
you know what i mean. I'm like, okay, but that
shit was opening for me, though, you feel what I'm saying,
and then I'm getting to then I get to meet
charm But you know, I mean it was important for
me because I'm like, Damn, this the younger generation, and
(51:11):
I'm thinking, like, if we have more interactions with the
younger generation and the older generation that put shit in
perspective like that. You don't have that disconnect that a
lot of you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
And Marshaun, the coolest thing you just said is this
is it's interesting to say that when I signed you,
when you're a twenty year old kid, I knew you
had it in you to be the guy you are now.
As far as a mentor the guys like Max I did,
I didn't know that. I didn't know that as many
years you took off my life, I didn't know that.
And the point with Max right now, Max, you look
(51:46):
back six years ago, you probably didn't think you would
be the guy that's going to be mentoring the same thing.
This whole thing comes full circle.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
It's crazy what you guys have been through and the
people around you in your corner, in your life is
helping you guys the point where now you don't even
know how many people are touching, whether it be financial literacy,
whether it be the investing stuff, whether it be sobriety
these things. Guys, your impact is massive, both of you guys.
(52:13):
Platforms are so big and like what Kobe did Max
before he passed, our rest and peace and all the
other icons. You guys have the same ability to touch
people in a way where most people have no concepts.
So it's really cool to see what you guys are doing.
And Max, I appreciate you sharing the story about Marshawn
because that's real in regards to you looking up to
(52:33):
him and seeing what he did. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
No, that's that's what it's all about at the end
of the day. It's and Marshall, I hit it right
on the head, like, as long as you are continuing
to be curious and grow and build and take the
next step forward and never get content, you're gonna have
a chance to win. And that's It's the same thing
with football, you know what I mean. If you're a player,
you have a great year, you're a defensive Player of
(52:57):
the year, your first team. Okay, now what's next? You know,
just you go right back to the square one. You
don't just get to start from last year. No, you
got to start right from the bottom again and build
that shit up. And that's what the great ones do,
you know what I mean? And I look at that
through through business like shit, I never thought I'd be
in a meeting with fucking Hunter Campbell and Dana White
and Floyd May, Like I'm sitting there to say, I'm like, fuck,
(53:19):
I feel like I don't belong in this motherfucker, you
know what I mean, Like, what's the fuck? I'm twenty
and now, like you know, I feel a little bit
more confident I'm sitting here with Connor McGregor and shit
like that. I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I really
belong in this room, you know what I mean. That's
a whole different flip, but it's like I belong here.
But now, okay, let me learn. Like I don't know
nothing about the fight world, but I've spent time with
(53:40):
Dana and those guys, and they've taught me so much
and I'm still learning, you know what I mean. It's
like every aspect of my life. That's how I look
at it, Like I want to fully maximize everything I
do in my life, like I'm already twenty, Like I'm
twenty seven years old, but life is so short, Like
I want to get everything out of it and every
experience that I want to do when I was a kid,
Like I really am doing that, Like that's how I
(54:01):
want to live my life. Like I look at shit
like my basketball. It's something as simple as like the
crib I'm building right now in Summerland, like the basketball
hoop with the fucking mural and the jersey, and I
want my ping pong say, and I want this, Like
that's the shit I was thinking about when I was
eight years old, Like I'm doing that, Like that's I'm
not waiting around and thinking about. No, I'm gonna put
the fucking work in. I'm gonna do what I gotta do,
(54:22):
and like I'm gonna live my life the way I
want to live my life. And in Marshall, you're the
same fucking way. You're gonna walk in that business a
black and mile and talk to your ship. But that's
exactly what the fuck you are because it's real and
that's who you are at the core. So I truly,
you know, I remember being a rookie. People tell me,
like you know, one of my coaches, like, man, you're
gonna spend all your money on damn tattoos and you're
(54:44):
cussing in the media. You can't be doing that. And
like I literally walk into interviews now with a cigar
with my shirt off and talking my shit and people
pay me to do that. Now you know what I mean,
I'm authentic And that's that's the life's about, bro, It's
full circle.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
It's because of what you did, all of that ship
come back, like you know what I mean, because you
your story, you know what I mean. But then I mean,
you know everybody got a story. Then you also put
in the work to solidify, like you know, I mean
you you gave him a reason to pay attention to
(55:19):
your story. Like it ain't just because you know what
I mean, You I got tattools, I talked my ship
and I smoke a cigar. How many motherfuckers we know
do that? And then you go and and then you
go and you give them a reason to say, oh,
I see why you talk your ship, why you got
that tools, and why he ain't here smoking a cigar
(55:40):
because he's gonna go put the work in that ship?
Is that ship is is uh infectious as well? Bruh?
And I mean you know, like I'm like I learned.
I try and learn from every every situation, trying to
learn from uh every person that all the ship. So
I mean as much as you, I mean, we talk
about it like having y'all come to the house, like
(56:02):
that ship is is eye opening to me because now
I'm getting to look at it from you, I mean,
for three four different different perspectives and to see how
y'all see shipping. Okay, yeah, but I can learn from that.
So I mean, you know, just as much as like
you were saying about you helping, like that's that's that's
my ship, you know what I mean, That's that's where
(56:24):
all of this ship come from. I don't know how
many uh Doug's clients done came through me, and he
always talked about, you know, he only take three percent
and all that other kind of agent bullshit he be running.
But I'm like a lot of these clients ain't really yours.
Br like I didn't be it on the phone joking
plays like yeah, we need to come sign over here,
(56:46):
and you know what I mean talking about. So, I mean,
we gotta we gotta figure out I don't know how
many costs he had you make, but we gotta find
a way to get our back pay on you know
what I mean, our fine fear.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Se.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Hey, but here's the deal, Marshaun. I remember back in
the day he told me Max, he said, fresh, don't
come at me crooked, And I never did and here's
the deal. Max, We're gonna let you go. But I
got to tell you something, Man, this has been really
cool and I'm really praying that a year from now
you're in the super Bowl. Okay in our backyard in
the Bay Area. You're gonna get there. Your rock star
(57:21):
in terms of what your story, where you came from,
what you've done, how you've lived your life. Can't be
more proud of you and your five year sobriety thing
coming up. You're living life like you have no idea.
And congrats to you, Max and everything you're doing. Man,
the sky's limit for you as a person, as a player,
and your role model. So many people, bro and really
(57:41):
really excited if you join us today. I can't thank
you enough, man, and we look forward to seeing you soon.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Hey Man, No, for real, I appreciate every every minute
we spend together. You know what I mean. I love
you guys for real, like you we're in this ship forever.
So I love all.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Just bullet proof, my boy. Love is bullet prove.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Now, Max, get back to work. You're ready for the
next year super Bowl. I know you got to get
back to therapy right now.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Rehab time I'll see y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
H m
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Hm.
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