March 5, 2025 • 49 mins
Live from the NFL Scouting Combine, Commanders GM Adam Peters stops by with the guys to talk about his journey to GM, what actually goes down in a team’s front office, and who are his top 5 Bay Area rappers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been here for six days and I think I've
(00:01):
lost about five years in my life.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Man, what's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, be Small Lynch.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politickets
you know.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To be you know to be.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So, Marshawn. I you know I got to tell you
from the Super Bowl. I see you on national commercial.
I see you on a Starbucks commercial. I get through
to NBA All Star Week and you're hosting one of
the coolest things I've ever seen, a community FanFest event
with the entire Oakland and the Bey area coming out.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You did it your way, a real way.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
On top of that, you're also in a little show
called Euphoria. Last I checked, it's the number one show
in the in the US. How you do so, Marshawn,
take me through your will win a couple of weeks
of all this incredible stuff you've done.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I mean, shit, Brice, you can't just go put me
on the spot man, Fresh.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know I apologize.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Look, I'm just saying Fresh. You know how I moved, man, Marshawn.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I want to ask, she's something real quicking in a
real note. You were close to someone very much uh
in your life, the former owner of the Seahawks, Paul Allen.
And this past few days you received the Paul Allen
Humanitarian Award.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Take me through that award and what that meant to you?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Man, Look fresh, you're gonna you're gonna have to let
me chew on something. You gotta let me eat one
time for the one time, man to But to get
that award was uh.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Was pretty big that.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Like, as I was sitting there and me and Babs
was talking, and I look on the on the award
thing and I realized, like, you know, this ain't something
that I you know, I'm not really good at receiving ship.
But then when I seen like my name and it
had Paul Allen name on it and being award and
award in his name, that was big for me because, uh,
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you know, towards the end of my career, me and
him started to we had we started the conversating. Uh,
you know, like I said at the award show, like
this would actually respond to me, Like I mean, you know,
we would have conversations and you know, I could ask
him questions about you know, whether it was some investments
(02:12):
that came out way or if I was looking for
real estate or should I be looking at like you know,
he he was. He would chop it up with me
because everything that I would hear about him was like, oh,
you know, Paul Ellen, he's no kind of different. You know,
you don't really talk to people, and you know all this,
that and the third. But I just remember him coming
(02:33):
to one of my foundation dinners that we were having,
and the response that I got from a few people
that was up on the third floor was like, hold on,
he'd really coming to your event.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And I was like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
He said he was gonna play as his guitar and
hell is shit. And I'm like they like, well, you
know he don't come out right. I'm like, nah, I
didn't know. But we reached out and he said he
was gonna come MiB too, And I just remember the
first about the first but two three minutes he was there.
I'm like, yeah, we taking shots of patrinity.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
By the way, I was right with you, me, you, me,
you him and Michael Bennett.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Remember that Michael Bennett and you had your boy Joe
was there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Too, yep.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And I'm like they like, man, I don't know what
the hell is going on, but he took a shot
of patrinity with you. And then I mean, you know
we sat at the table and I mean I just
was chopping it up with him on some on some
cool on a year feel me like, what's up with it?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Bro? And the nigga was solid to me.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So I don't understand, like you know, that was other
people's perception of me, but you know, for me, he
was solid. So being able to get this award, you
know what I mean? And his name is you know,
I mean, it's it's full circle for me, you know
what I mean. And and to me it's it's a
real life respect. And like I said, I mean, you know,
(04:01):
it made it a little easier to accept that award
because I know, you know what I mean, what it means.
And then I mean, you know all the philanthropy work
that he was doing. Like I remember he called me
one time. I remember you remember this too. He called
me and he was like, man, can you get into
Seattle tomorrow? And I'm like, yeah, wow, what's up? Like
I want to have a conversation with you. I'm like,
(04:23):
all right, cool, I'll be up there one time. Like, well,
I'm in the Philippines right now. I think I just
found the Japanese uh a Japanese fightership at the bottom
of the Philippine Ocean. But uh, I'll be in Seattle.
I'll need you there, like at four o'clock or some shit.
I remember getting off the phone like, hey, Fresh, I
gotta get to Seattle right now.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We gotta go.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You're like what, I'm like, yeah, man, Parly just called me,
told me we got to get up there.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're like, well, shit, we going? I say, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
This motherfucker just told me he was in the the
middle of the Philippine Ocean, found a Japanese cruise ship
and we went and got it on our private pe
you know what I mean. And we went up to
Seattle and we had an interesting conversation with that gentleman.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But I mean, you know that to get that award
was huge.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Everybody. What an incredible day for our politic and guests.
We have a former I want to say this same
high school as me, different time, the mean streets Mona
Vissa High School to junior college to UCLA football player
to then scout with the Patriots Broncos forty nine ers
(05:43):
and newly named last year general manager and executive the
Year of the Washington Commanders, the hottest gym in football.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Adam Peters guys, owed, what's up, Big Doug.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Adam.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I just told Marshawn, I keep telling about the mean
streets and Montaviston Creupatino, and He's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, what the fuck mean about them streets.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
There's a couple of blocks. There's a couple of blocks
that are.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Tough, you know, Yeah, a couple of tough blocks.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, we started getting into where the migos hanging out at.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Then you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, well, Adam.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Throughout these last fifteen years, as I was ever represented Marshawn,
I've told him that I grew up in the mean
streets of Creupatino and he came down one time to
my mom's house.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
He's like, dude, mean streets. Come on, bro.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But Marshawn, you'll love Adam. Adam is. Adam's like me, dude.
He's a state school, public school kid, grinder, scrapper, junior
college player at West Valley College to UCLA to now
the grind of an NFL scout and now a current GM.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Marshawn, He's been battling for a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Have you ever heard uh your back down? Your background
ran down like that?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Uh yeah, a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, you hear how it done. Just run your
whole background down. Yeah, you sound pretty pretty accomplished.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
My boy, Well, he's like he's kind of bragging about himself.
He's just like me. He did all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeeah, you feel well.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I got to be honest with Marshawn. I saw Adam
yesterday and we had a few. Uh, we had a few.
We had a lout this way. We had a long
lunch for many, many hours, and for me, it lasted
about nine hours.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Put it that way.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Adam had to go to work, but I had about
a nine hours lunch that turned into a lunch to
a dinner with a few cocktails in between.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I was going to ask you how many how many
drinks was involved in that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
There was a few right at him.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
There was a few. You had a lot. You had
a lot. I think was the night before I was
still struggling.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Hey, my boy, my boy drank like a guppy.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, I want to tell you a funny story, and
I'm not going to name the other GM that was there,
But there was a gem there Marshawn that came to
have a drink or two and he was going to
go to mass and there was a Friday Mass or
Thursday Mass, and let's just say he missed the Mass,
and he missed a few more things. So his intentions
were pure. But I think my my cocktail soda line
(08:07):
got the best of them, and he missed the mass,
so it's all good.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hey, I don't think that's something you should be bragging.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
No, I know, I think what you're telling him about that,
But you know what, that happens a lot here, a lot,
a lot of things are missed here, but those types
of deals get done during those situations, not so much meeting,
but when you're hanging out and you're talking and you're
being honest with each other and being straight and so
(08:36):
I actually had a good conversation with him too. Hopefully
we'll get something done. But that's how this place is.
You know, Like you know, you're not in your regular meetings,
you're really not doing a lot of shit. It's when
you're kind of in the meetings. After the meetings is
when the real talk goes down.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, Adam, before we get to that, you forget that
at him. I was like me and Marshaan is like
the origin story on things in life. And you know,
a lot of people don't know and their listeners, Like
you get done with UCLA, played football there, and then
instead of going to be a software salesman, instead of
investment banking, instead of whatever it may be, you get
into being a scout. How does one go from college
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to a scout because a lot of people don't know
how that is? How did you do that when you
left UCLA years ago?
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Yeah, it's really just the function of I didn't know
what I wanted to.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Do, Like, I had zero plans with my life.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
And I didn't really realize how not good I was
at football until I realized it really late. I always
thought I was better than I was so but by
the time I realized, Okay, I'm probably not going to
be doing this for a living, I wanted to stay
in that. I was a psychology major, and there's not
a whole lot of cool psychology jobs. It's really beneficial
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learning about it because you can talk to people a
certain way and you understand people a certain way a
little bit more.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
But I wasn't going to be a psychologist, so I
was like, I want to stay in football.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
So the year after I finished playing, I was bill
still in school, so I decided to.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Stay and start working in the in the football office.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
So I worked in the football office with a dude,
Randy Taylor, who was our director of operations. Had some
great coaches, guys that are still in the lead today.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
You ever play for Vienname my Sean.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I didn't get to play for him, but I got
a pretty good relationship with him.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, So he was a coach, and then John Hembry
was a coach.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Then my coach at the time was Don Johnson god
rest his soul is an incredible man and d line coach.
So those guys kind of all took me under their
wing and allowed me to work there. And so I
worked there for you know whatever, six seven dollars an hour,
just doing whatever I could to, you know, go and
getting sandwiches, coffee and watching Tate.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So he was grinding, dud, Do you hear that? Real grinding?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So Adam, all your all your friends leave college.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
We're making one hundred grand, sixty grand, seventy grand, and
what was your salary starting out with the Patriots as
a scout it was.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It was a hard negotiation. They said, you're making eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I said, okay, eighteen thousand.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I drove out there. I said, all right, I'm not men.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
So so I took a I took a Penske truck
from Westwood up to the Bay Area, loaded a bunch
of shit in there. It was towing My had this
like old accurate legend. This thing was actually awesome, six speed,
like I could hal ass in that thing. Yeah, throwed
that on the back, drove across the country to New
England and then, uh, ship.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hold on, hold on you you didn't even fly.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
You drove, drove five days, made a few stops, almost
died a couple of times, right through a snowstorm and
snow yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Oh yeah, it was during Uh it was during the spring.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
And hit a massive snowstorm on like I eighty, went
through like Montana and Wyoming, almost.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Drove off the side of the road.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It was.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
It was a wild trip, but but it was all
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Man.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
It was cool and a lot of cool people in
New England. Won a lot of games, and then uh
really kick started my career.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
As so you was you was over there when uh
when when I came and had my little run in.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Uh in Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Then, yeah, I went to New England three to nine
and I started.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
And you won't remember this, but obviously I knew you
really well because I became a West Coast scout in No. Six,
So I was scout in your area. So I was
coming to Cow all the time. I park up in
that bullpen. Yeah, seeing those meeting rooms when all those
fuckers were in the trees, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hippie Hill, Baby, Hippie Hill.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
That ain't hippie hell man, it wasn't in the hill.
It was in the trees.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
In the trees. They filed them up. They built the community. Yeah,
in the tree. But I'm gonna tell you this. Them
trees still there.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
They wouldn't take them down.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
They couldn't. They tried it. Yeah, man, look, let me
tell you an interesting story about that. Not to get
not to get a sidetracked. But the police came. Men
was trying to get those people out the trees. Now,
like I said, they had a community up there. They
had buckets. I'm talking about trash buckets full of piss
and ship And when the police would come up to
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they would throw that ship on the police, and when
we would come up for practice, you could smell all
that ship and fish just everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But those trees are still there till this day.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Yeah, that was like a non negotiable when they built
the new stadium, the new stadium.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't kill those trees.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
They say, you building around these trees. These trees ain't
going nowhere, Adam.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What people know back then early on, like what what
does the scout do? I mean, so you you were,
you're the West Coast scout. What's trying to find uh
the best player? I mean, what what did that job entail?
And that grind early on?
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yeah, I think you know it's it's it is a grind.
And again, when you're in an area scout, you're not
making a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Just driving all around in my.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Area was huge, like all the way out you know,
up from the Bay Area, all the way up to Washington,
over to Idaho, down to Utah, all the way down
like New Mexico.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So I just drive around in a circle wall fall,
put like thirty thousand miles on my car all fall,
and just stop at these schools. Cows. One of them
went to a lot and just try to find guys,
and Marshawn was alone.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They don't they don't give you no budget to fly.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Not in the area. Scout.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Now you just drive. Now you get you get a
car stipend or you get like mileage. But not until
you're graduating to a national Scout or a director. You're
not flying anywhere. You're just drive and just just wearing
out your car. So you know, those drives are long
on the West coast man between the long fun Yeah,
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so i'd get like.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Ship what I listened to?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I listened to, you know, like this, we can get
into this too, Marshawnuh, some Bay Area rap. But I
would just listen to shit fucking on a loop, listening
to mac drad for like hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Well, look, man, you picked the good artist to listen
to if you're going to be driving from fucking Washington
to New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Like god damn.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But Marshaun, you know what these scouts did back then.
All they cared about is there damn Marriott points. They
all stayed in Marriott's because they all want to get
their damn points. And Adam's probably how many points of
Marriots you have right now, Adam, I use them all.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Some guys liked them and they keep them forever. But
I would.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I would.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I'd get like a million points in a year and
then I would just use them all in the summer
for like my summer vacation. But some guys have like
tens of millions where they just sort them and I
don't know why they're going to use them, but I
would just I would just blow it all every summer.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So the cool thing, Adam for the listeners is that
you know, I mean, there's thirty two GM jobs in
the world. Okay, it's probably one of the most coveted
things in the world. So for twenty some odd years
you were banging from New England to Denver to the
forty nine ers, and last year you got named the
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general manager, which is the the kreme de la crem
in terms of a football other than owning a team,
it's the GM. Did you ever think that day was
not going to come? In terms of all the stuff
you went through, the grinds, the drives, the battles, the
late night dinners, the waffle houses, all the stuff you
went through, did you ever think that day wasn't going
to come.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Uh, you know, I always wanted to come.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
But there was times, yeah, for sure, where I was
worried and I was like, man, I'm not gonna You
always have bumps in the road, right, you know, through
your school life, through your career, through your playing life,
and so there was a lot of times where you know,
I was really frustrated, either.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
With my performance or the situation or everything.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
But I think what was cool was I was I
was very, very fortunate to be one with four grade organizations.
Some started with New England it was like a dynasty
then and learned how to win and learn.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
How to you know, work really fucking hard. Then go
to Denver and we were really good.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
We won five Street Division titles, and learn from from
John Away, from Gary Kubiak, for Matt Russells, some really
like just really cool people.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
And then getting to San Francisco and being.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
With John and Kyle, and John's like, you know, the
biggest influence on my life and my career.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
As a man, as a personnel, person, as a leader.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And so there was a lot of times where I
was worried and frustrated and everything, but but I was
really really lucky to be around.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
A lot of great people and me to get this.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So how they look at your performances based off of
the players that you recommend, Like, all right, we got
Marshall and Lynch right here. I think he'll be a
good fit here, I'll come in. I'm a good fit.
That's points to you, right yeah. So if I come
in and I'm ash and I'm trash, then it's like,
hey man, what what the fuck? You're losing points for that,
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right yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And it's and there's there's so much that goes into it, right,
not just how good you are as a player, and
you were, you were fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So look, give me to give me, give me the breakdown,
just and then use me as a player.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And this is riding on your GM job as you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
If this player worked, then we give you the opportunity
to at least uh interview for the job. What does
it look like you got marshn Lynd shitting right here?
Two thousand and seven draft?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Yeah, as you and you had all day was your
draft class right all the way?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Hold on, Adam, Thank god there was no cell phones.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But back then too, we ain't gonna get it to
all of the up.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I apologize, go ahead at him, I apologize, go ahead
out hey.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
That goes for all of us. Man, trust me, that
wouldn't be yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
But you know, so the way we looked at it
New England is we always valued you know, your versatility,
What could you play on all three downs?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
So and I cross checked all the running backs.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
So not only did I do all the dudes on
the West Coast, but I did all the running backs.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
So my number one running back.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
That year was Marshawn and because I knew what he
could do not only on first and second down, but
on third down. And you're dynamic in the past game too.
So you're looking for a guy who fits your scheme.
It's not so much Shoe is the best guy, most
talented guy, but who fits your scheme, who fits your culture.
And the more and more that I've done this, how
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they fit is more important than the talent. Talent's always
extremely important, but you have to have that mix. So
finding a guy who fits what you do and fits
in your locker room and like you're a competitor and
loves ball and all that stuff that those are where
we make the mistakes. We don't make the mistakes on
how good a guy is. You make the mistakes on
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how much he fits, how well he loves it, you know,
how much of the competitor he is. And that's every
mistake that we've made is because that I've made is
the biggest ones.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Because of that, I can only imagine.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is interesting, morshon And I'm gonna ask you this question. Adam,
looking back to mo Sean in two thousand and seven, Okay,
coming from Oakland going to cal forget the talent and
all that, right, forget all that because you know that
was there. Would you have drafted him to Buffalo because
you're taking a kid from a different part of the
country to Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Would you've would you have? Was that a good move?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And Marshawn's same pulp questioned you, would you've drafted yourself
to Buffalo knowing that that that organization might not have
been ready for you back then?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Adam?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You first, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I think if I was at Buffalo by the time
the GM was at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
But Buddy Nicks, No, it wasn't Buddy Nicks, it was
Marv Levy, Marv Levys, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, and rest in peace Dick Jerome.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Man, they spent a ton of time with you, with
just a little bit of time with you before the draft.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Who was that Marph? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (20:52):
In Buffalo? Like the decision makers did they they fly
you out? Did you do a thirty visits?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
You do any of that stuff?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Well, I mean I did it all, man, I spend
a lot of well I spent a lot of time
with with Marv and.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
With uh dig Jerry.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, like I had to go up there and then
I did the Combine meetings and all of that ship.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
So I mean if they spent all that time with
you and they felt comfortable that you'd be a good
fit there, then that I think it's just a matter
how much work you do. I can't like say he
should or shouldn't have done it. I Mean, that's a
long fucking away from home, and Buffalo is a lot
different than the Bay. But you know, as long as
you have the right culture and the right people, you know,
guys can thrive in different environments. But you know that,
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you know that that's that's the biggest thing, is understanding
and putting getting as much information as you possibly can
to make the best decision and if they did that
and they thought that and they were true to themselves,
then that's a good decision. But if they were just
trying to sell themselves on something and trying to like
convince themselves as will work and maybe that's not right,
then that's when you make bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Adam, you'll you'll love this, and then we'll get to
the combine in a minute. But it's funny. So Marshawn's
going through all the visits and all that stuff. And
you know, back then, everyone to wear suits the visits
and and this this means guys, before the draft, players
will go in and the teams will bring them in
for a visit for a day to meet the coach
and the owner and whatnot. And so I never forget Marshaun.
I picked you up a cow, woke you up like
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a six in the morning. You were flying to Dallas.
And I pick him up, drop him off the Oakland airport,
at him and and and as he gets out, I say, hey,
what you forgot your suit bag? I throw him your
soup bag. He took the suit bag, ripped it up,
through it right back and across. I'm not wearing that shit,
I said, bro, what do you mean I'm not wearing that?
He said, and he'd never forget. He said, if Jerry
Jones doesn't like me for who I am, not what
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I wear, then I don't need to be a cowboy.
And he told Jerry the same thing. And that was
the first time a player said I'm not going to
go through this process and fake it or something I'm
not comfortable in. And Moreshawn didn't do it, and it
was such an eye opener for me as a young agent, thinking,
you know what, how cool is that because Moreshawn drafts
him for who he is. He's not gonna make put
a suit on to fake it. And Marshawn was the
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first player really to do that, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, it's ahead of his time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It was, man, that ship was almost career suicide.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Now it doesn't matter, man, I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Look well, I mean, you know it's gotta start somewhere. Yeah,
I'm just thinking, just just as your process as a
as a player, I know we're gonna get some young
players who I mean is probably gonna look at this
and see, you know what I mean, what what is
it that a GM look like? I mean, I know
you said that if you fish the culture and yeah,
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I mean talent is obviously a big deal. Get character
bo and I mean no particular order. But what does
that process looked for you?
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, it starts really with you know where I started
as an area scout in the area of Scouts. Like,
my job as an area scout when I went to
cal was not just to know like my point of contact.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But I knew Coach Googled, I knew Coach Malichick.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
I knew all those dudes right those and I developed
such relationships with them that way I could have a
real conversation with.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Them about who you are. You know, who you are
as a person.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
What time do you get in like, what do you
do extra like how much time do you put in
on it?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
How much do you love it?
Speaker 7 (24:33):
How much have you competitor on the field, you played
through injuries and all that. So you as an area scout,
you know your job is to be an expert in
your area and know fucking every single.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Thing about Marshaun Lynch.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
And then he brings that back to the college director
and then we have meetings and the GM So all
my now, all my information I get from our scouts
and they tell me in the better the scout out,
the more they know, because the more people they're type
with so understanding everything that makes you tick, man.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Not I mean everything that's their job. What do you
do tonight? Do your homebody? Do you go out? Do
you do you have the girl?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
I mean like all that stuff. Do we know everything
about these guys possible in order to make that decision?
Like fucking everything?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So is it the all right?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Because look, man, I used to think this was bullshit,
So now it sounds like it's the gms who do this.
But I would, I mean, I got drafted, and then
I would come back home, maybe like maybe three four
years after, and I go to some of you know,
the same stores that I used to go to as
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a kid. The guy in there used to call me
Mars Bors. Hey, Mars Bars, Mars Bars. He's like, Man,
a couple of years ago, Man, some people came in
here asking me questions about you and shit, and I'm like, Man,
what the fuck is you talking about? He's like, Man,
I don't know, Man, I don't know. Maybe they was
with the NFL. I'm like, the fuck out. I had
no idea. I didn't think nothing of it. But then
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I went to my elementary school and they asked me something.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like, hey, more shine. Now you know, I see you
doing your football ship and whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
But you know, some people came here a couple of
years ago asking you questions, is it really that deep?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
It's not always that deep, but I think if someone's
going to spend that much, you know, a first round
pick some guys, some guys recycled, Like I never did
the farthest. I would go with high school. I wouldn't
do an elementary schools. But I know some guys that
were area scouts with me out there that would just
like they drive around Oakland and they would they would
ask people ship. And that's a little like on on
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the stage like that was just like a myth like man.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
All right, yeah, so look man, so that ship is
true because like nowadays, you know, you got well, I
guess they make it easy now because they got this
social media ship. How much of that, dude you look
at when it comes to who I want to check
this guy out in a little deeper debt, would you
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go and check social media and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Well, we have a team of people that look at
the social media and all flag This is millions and
tens of millions of dollars. So you know, whatever we
spend on that to help us not make a catastrophic decision,
it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So Moreshawn, that's interesting because you and I talk about
all the time these owners being impatient and the owner
is like wanting results. And so you know there's some teams,
as you know more Shawn in the league that they
can't find a quarterback. You know, your old team, the
Raiders can't find a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And so Adam here, it's it's fate or whatever you
call it. He gets to Washington and guess what, he's
got the number two pick, and who does he get
the quarterback of? You know, probably the next twenty years.
So Adam taking me through how how great that was?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Bucket is wrong. That motherfucker is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Wrong, and that would be Jade and Daniel.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Well, whatever kind of investigating you did, you need to
if it was the PI that you put on him,
you need to go put that motherfucker on everybody because
she he would have found something special.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
He's special, and you know what's cool is and we did.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
We went back to high school, we went back to everywhere,
you know, and talking about him, and the same it was.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Ever, the story was the same every time.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
This is a man, this is a competitor, This guy
loves ball, this guy will do anything to win this.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I mean it was like you couldn't hear every single story.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
High school coach, Herm Edwards, college coaches, private quarterback coaches,
you know, guys that play with them like we talked
to you like you loves him, like I mean, every
single step of the way, teammates, whatever it is, support staff.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
It was just like, this is this is a dude.
Now he's he's reserved, he's laid back, so don't let
that fool you.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Like this is a fucking dog competitor that will will
fucking raise the level of your team.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
And that's what he did, man.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
And uh so you got to rely on all those sources.
But when you hear it over and over and over,
and it's the same thing that gets you a lot
of confidence to pull that trigger.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So you get that, you get this guy at him
as a as a res a rookie GM and it's
like you look pretty.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Good with this guy, don't you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I Mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty good get
in there.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, It's funny. You get like you almost feel guilt because.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Just so really really really blessed, really lucky that that
he was there and that it doesn't happen every draft,
and so yeah, we're very lucky. I feel guilty sometimes,
but just very happy for our organization.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, mar Shawn is it's pretty cool your brother and
your former teammate, Bobby Wagner and him have become very close.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And dan Quinn big head.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
As he would love him too. Man, you would love
playing for d Q, man, he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I did play with d Q.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, I played with him as head coach.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, not as a head coach, but yeah, we used
to sit down and he used to throw some defenses
at me, make sure I stayed on my ship. And
then he got Bobby over there command and everything. So
ship that's you know, I mean, I know he got
some big but I wish you would have brought Cable
with him.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah. Now, we we talked to him. We talked to
he was integrated.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Man, Cable because them too, they tight.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, we had a good good talk with him.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
But Cable might be too just a little bit too
gangster for y'all up there right now, man, y'all probably
gotta get you'all feet. We then come bring in at
pind the cable up here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So, Adam, it's interesting we you know as actually you
know a year ago today you saw j Deannis the
first time and we're actually out the scouting combine in Indy.
And by the way, I've been here for six days
and I think I've lost about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Five years in my life.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I got actually I went to go get an IV today, truthfully,
and the place was closed.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I was kind of pissed off.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What people don't understand is that, you know, they look
at the combine at them, and they see the stuff
on TV, the forty yard dashes, they see the broad
jumps all that. What nobody understands is the seven days
of what we go through here as an agent, as
a former player in a GM. And you know, from
my perspective, it's funny. I'll never forget is my thirty
second year at the Combine, thirty second year here. I'll
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never forget early on in the process back then, you know,
you went from the combine right there free agency. I'll
never forget Marshaan, like ninety five, I was doing a deal,
and I met this guy named Bill Pollie and the
former GM of the Colts, who was an old school guy.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He said, hey, meet me at eight o'clock in the morning.
Well the night before I'm out drinking, partying, and I
know what to expect. I meet this guy out and
he's ready to get a deal done. I had no
idea what I was doing. I'm like, oh my god,
I said, hey, I said, mister Polly, I'm gonna have
to get back to you when I get back. I
had no clue how to get a deal done eight
in the morning back then. But the combine atom has
evolved to now this massive week of you know, financial
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advisors are here, businesses are here, equipment companies, interviews, the
whole deal. But it's a huge job, fair for a
lot of people. But take me through quickly outam, how
this has changed from when you started it now?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a huge thing. It's a when
they say a tent pole event for the NFL. It's
a big big deal now and I mean it's on TV,
and it didn't you speak on TV.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
You used to speak out free for all, like when
I first started, when you were a scouting assistant. When
it started at like, in order to interview players, you
had to like fight for guys.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It wasn't organized. There wasn't formal interviews or anything.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
So you'd be fighting other scouting assistants to get interview
these guys for your coaches.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
There would be fist fights, there would be like guys.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Pushing, punching, yelling, Like I had a guy like chasing
after me for like three days that took the guy
that he wanted in order to interview for our coaches.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
So a lots of change. It's a lot more organized.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
It's a lot bigger event, like you said, but there
was no I mean, there was no fanfare to it
at all.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, out of speaking of fights, I don't know if
you heard this mor sewn, there was a fight last
night or the night before in Indy between two media members,
Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport got in a fight, ironically
at a Starbucks. And Jordan's dad is, I can't make
this up, bro. They got in a fight at a Starbucks? Yes,
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because they were they got I don't know what what,
I don't know what happened, but these motherfuckers getting a
fight at a Starbucks at four o'clock in the afternoon
during the combat.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yes, man, So hold on, do they still I mean
I can remember they They was measuring every goddamn thing
on this.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They measure your hand like that, They measure every fuck
like this in.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Reach you know, they measure your joints. They measure Yeah,
they do.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Oh it sounds like it's gotten even more extensive. I remember, Wayne.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Span as you do do your arm.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
They just they just introduced wingspan like a few of you,
like maybe five ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
What I mean, I don't ship, man, I just remember
sitting back there behind this little fucking curtain and motherfuckers
talking about ut yep. They go to meet and all
you can hear and from out the crowd is like
I mean, the it was like an auditorium. I guess
with all these you just heard Hella righting on them.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What the fuck going on out here?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Like, man, they got motherfuckers on the chopping block, Like,
what the fuck going on?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The funniest part is that these guys get you know,
they get to interview players for fifteen minutes, as you know,
or maybe it wasn't back then, but is now and
I never forget like these these are the meetings. And
again I'm not going to name any gams or personnel people,
of course, but they'll ask some young kids, so, you know,
do you drink, do your part a lot?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
And you know, kids gonna you know, no, I don't
smoke pot or I don't drink that much, whatever, And
these guys will kind of get in them like I've
heard you do this, I've heard you do that. And
then I see these same gms at two in the
morning that are damn near passed out in the hallway
the hotel, can't find the room they're in or there
they're far and I'm like, listen, you were the fucking
same guy that grilled my client about partying too much
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as a nineteen year old. You're fifty five years old
and you can't even make back your room.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You've been drink drinking so much? Is am I right?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Adham.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
I've seen guys asleep on the couch in the lobby
as we're going to the wig ins in the morning
and there's like everybody's walking by them talking and this
dude is sound asleep on a bench in the lobby
because they didn't know how to get back to their room.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
That happens every single year.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yet more, Shawn, these guys are then are now downgrading
players in college for these same things that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So it's a little hypocritical. It's gotten better over time, I.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Believe at them, right, Yeah, but it's still funny. So, Marshaun,
here's a funny story. So last year, Adam gets the
job and there's a steakhouse here called Saint Elmo Steakhouse,
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real famous steakhouse. It's like nineteen forty two, and we
go there for a big dinner.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It's a late dinner and it's it's me and Adam
and six seven other people, and we're sitting there and
having some you know, having some drinks, not even that
much food, and so, you know, about midnight, the bill
comes and the waitress puts the bill next to me
and I look at I'm like, I'm sorry, I think
that must.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Be for the wedding. There's a wedding rehearsal in the
other room.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And all of a sudden, I look up and she's
still sitting there and she's like, no, this is your bill,
And I said it was sixty nine hundred dollars, and
I'm thinking to myself, we have no bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
None of us even had miy steaks.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I said, I think this is the wrong check, and
she's like, no, this is the right check. And I said, well,
how do you figure? And she's like, well, you ordered
this tequila and so you know the class Zool, the
blue tequila that's used like fifty bucks a glass, no
matter where in the country, maybe it's forty bucks, fifty
sixty whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
She's like, no, no, you ordered the.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Classe Zuol Ultro Nueva black bottle tequila. And this was
six hundred and seventy five dollars a glass.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I had like six or seven of them myself.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm like, oh my god. And I said no, no, no,
I didn't order this. She's like, yes, you did. I said,
all right. Was your manager around and she's like no.
And so I didn't want to make a big deal.
So I paid the bill. I come back the next
day and I said, listen, I don't want to be
the guy that like has the bill. I says, not
about the money. I got the money, Yes I do,
mar Sean, I says, not about the money.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, you got it. For me.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yes I did. I said, but listen, here's the deal.
I didn't order this damn tequila. And I and he's
and they're like, well, we're gonna check the video monitors.
I said, listen, no disrespect to Indiana, no disrespect to
Saint Elmo's.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Okay, But if I was to.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Order this bottle, I'd want to be in a yacht
santra Pe. I'd want this bottle coming out with dancing
girls and sparklers. I want the bottle at my table.
I didn't order this damn bottle. So this went on
for a month. We had to investigate this order, and
finally the managerer called me back about a month later,
said I'm sorry, mister Hendrickson, you right, you did not
order this.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
What should we do?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And I said, listen, I'll make it easy and he
charged me one fifty glass. I'll still tip the waitress.
She was fantastic. Credit me like four thousand bucks. But
those are the kind of stories that evolved from the combine.
And that was that was That was a good one.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, you got to point there, buddy. You got to
point there, buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's some shit, Adam.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Any any stories like that, you can remember besides that
one with me last year that.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Was the most recent for sure. I think I told
one earlier where I mean I got chasing me around
all week because the like I'd look over my shoulder
and this motherfucker be staring at me because I took
his player that he wanted to interview. And it was
literally for four days, I had a guy chasing me
around the whole times. It was really fucking weird, and
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it was like, dude, what are we doing here, Like
it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hold on it is it still at that it was?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
We was in like I think it was like a
train station that they turned into the whole.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Teap same place more, same place.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
This guy would chase me around, the trains still in
there right now. They don't do it anymore.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
They do everything in the dome now, but it's the
same kind of thing, but it's a lot more civilized
the train.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Station where you ain't got people chasing your ass down
for your interview.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
When I was I went to Combine, look I had
about you know, I was in some I was in
some ship or I had some shit going on. So
I had to meet with all thirty two teams, and
I had to tell that story all thirty two fucking times,
and I just, oh my god. I remember coming back
like motherfucker's like, yeah, man, man, I met with like
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five teams, and I'm like, I feel like, what the fuck.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Kind of man?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well? Who? Man?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I gotta go talk to my agent because I know
this shit ain't right. What you mean five teams?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Man?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Man with thirty two fucking teams today, Like, man, I'm
tired as fuck. And then we got to go out
there and run the show. My man, I was hot
than a motherfucker, Like god damn.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But then that's why I tell.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Doug as he said, well, I mean, you know that's
the penalty you gotta pay for doing dumb shit.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
It sure is, Marchamp, but guess what, guess what you evolved?
Just fine, you battle through it. And speaking of the combine, Adam,
I know you have to run to go go back
to interview players and to go basically watch some more
forties and whatnot. But listen, a man, I'm really proud
of you. You've built an incredible team and you've made
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it to the pinnacle. Okay, now you got to go
win the Super Bowl in two or three or four.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
That's right there. That's the pinnacle. That is the pinnacle.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You've done it, Bro, and I I just appreciate the
grind in battle to make it through a junior college
U c l a walk on grind, your scrapp or scout,
driving your car through the through the Upper West and
Pacific Northwest and now being in the big chair. And
by the way, he got a good view there. You
must have a nice suite at him. I think your
owner might have some money.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Huh, he's got a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He got a couple of doubts. Hey, man, go get
a deal done with Bobby too, Man.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
I know I just texted him earlier. We're working on it.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Go get a deal done with Bobby.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
He's hard Marshall, he's a good negotiator, man.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Real, Yeah, I mean that's my that's my son. Man.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I read out of here's the deal. Why in closing
at him? Why don't you get Bobby on FaceTime today?
Put more Shawn on the FaceTime of Bobby and you
can you can do the deal with Bobby and Marshawn.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I want to reach out to him now, but as
I just seen him over the Super Bowl, I'm like,
I'm actually when he gonna hang it up?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
He like, hang it up?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Oh, man, I ain't going no, God damn. Where I said,
all right, was s it? Man, go ahead and get
a deal done with my boy.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
He's special, man.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
I know, worry about him. So they used to competition Wednesday.
They used to like punching at the ball and all
that shit. And Bobby was young. He was coming up
trying to hit on me and shit and not just
telling hey, Bobby, hey, you gotta learn how to practice, bro,
And I walk away. He looking at me like what
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the fuck is he talking about? He come up and
do it again. But as he was coming up to
me and trying to punch the ball, I just stopped
and I dropped it in front of him. He looked
at me like, what you doing. I said, I told
you learn how to practice. Don't be coming up trying
to hit on me, motherfucker. I gotta to make it
to Sunday. He like, oh that's what I said, Yeah, motherfucker.
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If I waste all my hits on you, then I
don't have nothing for Sunday. Like, man, they make me
do it. Man, you're gonna get me in trouble. I said, well, look, man,
you either get in trouble during the week or we're
gonna be in trouble on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
How you want to play it?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
He said, Man, I'm finna learn how to practice. He did.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Man, smart, smartest hell but he.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
He actually he actually is is is Yeah, I mean
one of the greatest that I've seen do it, and
one that I played with.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
So yeah, man, go take care of my boy.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Man, go find some more players out him, Go find
some more players.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
All right, I got one more for you, Doug. You're ready, Yes,
we'll go.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
Top five Barrier Rappers. Marshan, you're out of this, Dug.
I don't think you don't.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Okay, go ahead more Sean, No.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
It's his Now, I'm gonna see what you got.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Who I got?
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Who's number one for me? Yeah, wrapping around rapping, I
got mac.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Dra number two, Marshawan.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
All now, if you just going, I mean, because it's
the ways you could go about this.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
I'm a little older than you too, so you know
you got a little further back you got. He's a mess.
You got mess for sure.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Yeah, you know, I think the one of the originators
and and still fucking good.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Is too short.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
See that's cheating.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Well, I mean you want to go underground. You want
to go like rb Oposse.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
You want to go like dra Dogs, like Andre Higgs. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta go dray Dog. You dog for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Just the fact that you said that, I'll give you
the pass. You can say one time right now, you
dog baby?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Sean? Who else? Give me some mother? Gi me two
more more? Sean?
Speaker 2 (44:33):
You said two more? Yeah? Where you want to go?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
You want to you want to go into the Bay
or you want to go in in in Oakland.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Yeah you can go. Let's go Oakland.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I want to go to Oakland. I'm gonna go a group.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I'm gonna go two groups, The Loney's in the Delinquents.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
It sucks because they're just known for one song, but
many like it came out, I.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Mean world wide. They known for one song. But she
yeah at home. Yeah it's a little different. You know.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
You know one guy that I always think about and
he's not a he's not a rapper, but he was
the producer.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
You remember Kyrie. Kyrie.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
See he did all the stuff for mac tre for
mac mall for like real Love Like.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
He did all the beats. He did all the beats,
and he just disappeared off the face of the earth.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Hey, you know what I told you, you get you
get one pass.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
You get one, you get one pass.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Never using a buddy, you never. Oh, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Okay you really are you really an old school Yeah?
You really old school Bay Area.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I respect it, Adam. I appreciate that right there. That
is that is really fucking cool, bro.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Hey, he had dou I know, look, and he excluded
you for a reason.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't know any
of those fucking guys, I got it.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
I love the insane down to E p A remember them. Yeah,
it might be too old for you.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Nah, hell no, you're right. You gotta. You got band
aid and school the hood stars out of E p
A too.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, mister fab you know obviously toes.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Out there, uh out out that way was saying oh
or something like that. But yeah, man, but then you
start getting back this way. Yeah, that's that's real ship.
I mean, you know, I could go younger too, but yeah,
I don't know any of the new stuff.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
We had a couple of guys on our team, like
one of ducks clients, Jeremy mc nicholas put.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Me on some new guys.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
I gotta start listening to that, man, because I'm like,
I just listened to ship that I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Man, I understand it.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
But you you went and you went in your uh
you went in your bag, my boy. A lot of respect, man,
and congratulations on the success that you've been having.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
And I know you because you got to.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You got a good group over there.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Really, you got a good group over there.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I mean with with with with d Q quarterback Bobby
right in.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Man, you'd be right. I mean, this is this is
the kind of guys you like. Man.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Oh no, we do with Mo Shaun all over.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
I could give you a play, No, I couldn't look that.
When I came out of retirement for the Seahawks. The
last time I.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Remember that was with the Niners, and y'all had him.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I don't know who the fuck was y'all left d
n and a big motherfucker, big, big motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I came out and tried to hit him with that
little chip before I got into the fucking flat.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Oh, my whole right side went up.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Why, I ran straight to the I chipped him and
ran straight to the sideline, took a knee, like man,
hold on. These little motherfuckers built different.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
Yeah that was in Seattle, right, that was when we're
in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, I remember that because we were
like wondering, why is he not in the game?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, because that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
My whole right side of my body was numb than
a motherfuck the game, wondering what Man. I went to
the sideline for like two plays and I while I'm
down there on my while I'm down there on the knee,
they give me water more shan you all right? I'm
like yeah, you know, just shaking back into it. And
the whole time I had the fucking epiphany come to
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my mind. Pee, I could be on my couch right
now watching this game, smoking a blunt with a shot
of Hennessy, and I'm out here trying to hit this
big motherfucker light. Oh man, I had to shake that
ship real quick, come back to terms, like all right,
let's get back into the game. But then we went
and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
They trick so well, Adam, listen, you gotta run, buddy. Uh,
what a way to end it? On the on the
Barrier rappers. Man, that's awesome. I appreciate the knowledge. You're
welcome with more Shawn and Oakland anytime and season.
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Thanks guys, thanks for the time. MANI
I've been here for six days and I think I've
(00:01):
lost about five years in my life.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Man, what's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, be Small Lynch.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politickets
you know.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To be you know to be.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So, Marshawn. I you know I got to tell you
from the Super Bowl. I see you on national commercial.
I see you on a Starbucks commercial. I get through
to NBA All Star Week and you're hosting one of
the coolest things I've ever seen, a community FanFest event
with the entire Oakland and the Bey area coming out.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You did it your way, a real way.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
On top of that, you're also in a little show
called Euphoria. Last I checked, it's the number one show
in the in the US. How you do so, Marshawn,
take me through your will win a couple of weeks
of all this incredible stuff you've done.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I mean, shit, Brice, you can't just go put me
on the spot man, Fresh.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know I apologize.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Look, I'm just saying Fresh. You know how I moved, man, Marshawn.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I want to ask, she's something real quicking in a
real note. You were close to someone very much uh
in your life, the former owner of the Seahawks, Paul Allen.
And this past few days you received the Paul Allen
Humanitarian Award.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Take me through that award and what that meant to you?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Man, Look fresh, you're gonna you're gonna have to let
me chew on something. You gotta let me eat one
time for the one time, man to But to get
that award was uh.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Was pretty big that.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Like, as I was sitting there and me and Babs
was talking, and I look on the on the award
thing and I realized, like, you know, this ain't something
that I you know, I'm not really good at receiving ship.
But then when I seen like my name and it
had Paul Allen name on it and being award and
award in his name, that was big for me because, uh,
(01:51):
you know, towards the end of my career, me and
him started to we had we started the conversating. Uh,
you know, like I said at the award show, like
this would actually respond to me, Like I mean, you know,
we would have conversations and you know, I could ask
him questions about you know, whether it was some investments
(02:12):
that came out way or if I was looking for
real estate or should I be looking at like you know,
he he was. He would chop it up with me
because everything that I would hear about him was like, oh,
you know, Paul Ellen, he's no kind of different. You know,
you don't really talk to people, and you know all this,
that and the third. But I just remember him coming
(02:33):
to one of my foundation dinners that we were having,
and the response that I got from a few people
that was up on the third floor was like, hold on,
he'd really coming to your event.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And I was like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
He said he was gonna play as his guitar and
hell is shit. And I'm like they like, well, you
know he don't come out right. I'm like, nah, I
didn't know. But we reached out and he said he
was gonna come MiB too, And I just remember the
first about the first but two three minutes he was there.
I'm like, yeah, we taking shots of patrinity.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
By the way, I was right with you, me, you, me,
you him and Michael Bennett.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Remember that Michael Bennett and you had your boy Joe
was there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Too, yep.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And I'm like they like, man, I don't know what
the hell is going on, but he took a shot
of patrinity with you. And then I mean, you know
we sat at the table and I mean I just
was chopping it up with him on some on some
cool on a year feel me like, what's up with it?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Bro? And the nigga was solid to me.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So I don't understand, like you know, that was other
people's perception of me, but you know, for me, he
was solid. So being able to get this award, you
know what I mean? And his name is you know,
I mean, it's it's full circle for me, you know
what I mean. And and to me it's it's a
real life respect. And like I said, I mean, you know,
(04:01):
it made it a little easier to accept that award
because I know, you know what I mean, what it means.
And then I mean, you know all the philanthropy work
that he was doing. Like I remember he called me
one time. I remember you remember this too. He called
me and he was like, man, can you get into
Seattle tomorrow? And I'm like, yeah, wow, what's up? Like
I want to have a conversation with you. I'm like,
(04:23):
all right, cool, I'll be up there one time. Like, well,
I'm in the Philippines right now. I think I just
found the Japanese uh a Japanese fightership at the bottom
of the Philippine Ocean. But uh, I'll be in Seattle.
I'll need you there, like at four o'clock or some shit.
I remember getting off the phone like, hey, Fresh, I
gotta get to Seattle right now.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We gotta go.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You're like what, I'm like, yeah, man, Parly just called me,
told me we got to get up there.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're like, well, shit, we going? I say, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
This motherfucker just told me he was in the the
middle of the Philippine Ocean, found a Japanese cruise ship
and we went and got it on our private pe
you know what I mean. And we went up to
Seattle and we had an interesting conversation with that gentleman.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But I mean, you know that to get that award
was huge.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Everybody. What an incredible day for our politic and guests.
We have a former I want to say this same
high school as me, different time, the mean streets Mona
Vissa High School to junior college to UCLA football player
to then scout with the Patriots Broncos forty nine ers
(05:43):
and newly named last year general manager and executive the
Year of the Washington Commanders, the hottest gym in football.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Adam Peters guys, owed, what's up, Big Doug.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Adam.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I just told Marshawn, I keep telling about the mean
streets and Montaviston Creupatino, and He's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, what the fuck mean about them streets.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
There's a couple of blocks. There's a couple of blocks
that are.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Tough, you know, Yeah, a couple of tough blocks.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, we started getting into where the migos hanging out at.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Then you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, well, Adam.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Throughout these last fifteen years, as I was ever represented Marshawn,
I've told him that I grew up in the mean
streets of Creupatino and he came down one time to
my mom's house.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
He's like, dude, mean streets. Come on, bro.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But Marshawn, you'll love Adam. Adam is. Adam's like me, dude.
He's a state school, public school kid, grinder, scrapper, junior
college player at West Valley College to UCLA to now
the grind of an NFL scout and now a current GM.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Marshawn, He's been battling for a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Have you ever heard uh your back down? Your background
ran down like that?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Uh yeah, a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, you hear how it done. Just run your
whole background down. Yeah, you sound pretty pretty accomplished.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
My boy, Well, he's like he's kind of bragging about himself.
He's just like me. He did all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeeah, you feel well.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I got to be honest with Marshawn. I saw Adam
yesterday and we had a few. Uh, we had a few.
We had a lout this way. We had a long
lunch for many, many hours, and for me, it lasted
about nine hours.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Put it that way.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Adam had to go to work, but I had about
a nine hours lunch that turned into a lunch to
a dinner with a few cocktails in between.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I was going to ask you how many how many
drinks was involved in that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
There was a few right at him.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
There was a few. You had a lot. You had
a lot. I think was the night before I was
still struggling.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Hey, my boy, my boy drank like a guppy.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, I want to tell you a funny story, and
I'm not going to name the other GM that was there,
But there was a gem there Marshawn that came to
have a drink or two and he was going to
go to mass and there was a Friday Mass or
Thursday Mass, and let's just say he missed the Mass,
and he missed a few more things. So his intentions
were pure. But I think my my cocktail soda line
(08:07):
got the best of them, and he missed the mass,
so it's all good.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hey, I don't think that's something you should be bragging.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
No, I know, I think what you're telling him about that,
But you know what, that happens a lot here, a lot,
a lot of things are missed here, but those types
of deals get done during those situations, not so much meeting,
but when you're hanging out and you're talking and you're
being honest with each other and being straight and so
(08:36):
I actually had a good conversation with him too. Hopefully
we'll get something done. But that's how this place is.
You know, Like you know, you're not in your regular meetings,
you're really not doing a lot of shit. It's when
you're kind of in the meetings. After the meetings is
when the real talk goes down.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, Adam, before we get to that, you forget that
at him. I was like me and Marshaan is like
the origin story on things in life. And you know,
a lot of people don't know and their listeners, Like
you get done with UCLA, played football there, and then
instead of going to be a software salesman, instead of
investment banking, instead of whatever it may be, you get
into being a scout. How does one go from college
(09:13):
to a scout because a lot of people don't know
how that is? How did you do that when you
left UCLA years ago?
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Yeah, it's really just the function of I didn't know
what I wanted to.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Do, Like, I had zero plans with my life.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
And I didn't really realize how not good I was
at football until I realized it really late. I always
thought I was better than I was so but by
the time I realized, Okay, I'm probably not going to
be doing this for a living, I wanted to stay
in that. I was a psychology major, and there's not
a whole lot of cool psychology jobs. It's really beneficial
(09:46):
learning about it because you can talk to people a
certain way and you understand people a certain way a
little bit more.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
But I wasn't going to be a psychologist, so I
was like, I want to stay in football.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
So the year after I finished playing, I was bill
still in school, so I decided to.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Stay and start working in the in the football office.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
So I worked in the football office with a dude,
Randy Taylor, who was our director of operations. Had some
great coaches, guys that are still in the lead today.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
You ever play for Vienname my Sean.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I didn't get to play for him, but I got
a pretty good relationship with him.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, So he was a coach, and then John Hembry
was a coach.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Then my coach at the time was Don Johnson god
rest his soul is an incredible man and d line coach.
So those guys kind of all took me under their
wing and allowed me to work there. And so I
worked there for you know whatever, six seven dollars an hour,
just doing whatever I could to, you know, go and
getting sandwiches, coffee and watching Tate.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So he was grinding, dud, Do you hear that? Real grinding?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So Adam, all your all your friends leave college.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
We're making one hundred grand, sixty grand, seventy grand, and
what was your salary starting out with the Patriots as
a scout it was.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It was a hard negotiation. They said, you're making eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I said, okay, eighteen thousand.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I drove out there. I said, all right, I'm not men.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
So so I took a I took a Penske truck
from Westwood up to the Bay Area, loaded a bunch
of shit in there. It was towing My had this
like old accurate legend. This thing was actually awesome, six speed,
like I could hal ass in that thing. Yeah, throwed
that on the back, drove across the country to New
England and then, uh, ship.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hold on, hold on you you didn't even fly.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
You drove, drove five days, made a few stops, almost
died a couple of times, right through a snowstorm and
snow yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Oh yeah, it was during Uh it was during the spring.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
And hit a massive snowstorm on like I eighty, went
through like Montana and Wyoming, almost.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Drove off the side of the road.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It was.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
It was a wild trip, but but it was all
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Man.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
It was cool and a lot of cool people in
New England. Won a lot of games, and then uh
really kick started my career.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
As so you was you was over there when uh
when when I came and had my little run in.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Uh in Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Then, yeah, I went to New England three to nine
and I started.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
And you won't remember this, but obviously I knew you
really well because I became a West Coast scout in No. Six,
So I was scout in your area. So I was
coming to Cow all the time. I park up in
that bullpen. Yeah, seeing those meeting rooms when all those
fuckers were in the trees, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hippie Hill, Baby, Hippie Hill.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
That ain't hippie hell man, it wasn't in the hill.
It was in the trees.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
In the trees. They filed them up. They built the community. Yeah,
in the tree. But I'm gonna tell you this. Them
trees still there.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
They wouldn't take them down.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
They couldn't. They tried it. Yeah, man, look, let me
tell you an interesting story about that. Not to get
not to get a sidetracked. But the police came. Men
was trying to get those people out the trees. Now,
like I said, they had a community up there. They
had buckets. I'm talking about trash buckets full of piss
and ship And when the police would come up to
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they would throw that ship on the police, and when
we would come up for practice, you could smell all
that ship and fish just everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But those trees are still there till this day.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Yeah, that was like a non negotiable when they built
the new stadium, the new stadium.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't kill those trees.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
They say, you building around these trees. These trees ain't
going nowhere, Adam.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What people know back then early on, like what what
does the scout do? I mean, so you you were,
you're the West Coast scout. What's trying to find uh
the best player? I mean, what what did that job entail?
And that grind early on?
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yeah, I think you know it's it's it is a grind.
And again, when you're in an area scout, you're not
making a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Just driving all around in my.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Area was huge, like all the way out you know,
up from the Bay Area, all the way up to Washington,
over to Idaho, down to Utah, all the way down
like New Mexico.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So I just drive around in a circle wall fall,
put like thirty thousand miles on my car all fall,
and just stop at these schools. Cows. One of them
went to a lot and just try to find guys,
and Marshawn was alone.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They don't they don't give you no budget to fly.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Not in the area. Scout.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Now you just drive. Now you get you get a
car stipend or you get like mileage. But not until
you're graduating to a national Scout or a director. You're
not flying anywhere. You're just drive and just just wearing
out your car. So you know, those drives are long
on the West coast man between the long fun Yeah,
(14:46):
so i'd get like.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Ship what I listened to?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I listened to, you know, like this, we can get
into this too, Marshawnuh, some Bay Area rap. But I
would just listen to shit fucking on a loop, listening
to mac drad for like hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Well, look, man, you picked the good artist to listen
to if you're going to be driving from fucking Washington
to New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Like god damn.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But Marshaun, you know what these scouts did back then.
All they cared about is there damn Marriott points. They
all stayed in Marriott's because they all want to get
their damn points. And Adam's probably how many points of
Marriots you have right now, Adam, I use them all.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Some guys liked them and they keep them forever. But
I would.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I would.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I'd get like a million points in a year and
then I would just use them all in the summer
for like my summer vacation. But some guys have like
tens of millions where they just sort them and I
don't know why they're going to use them, but I
would just I would just blow it all every summer.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So the cool thing, Adam for the listeners is that
you know, I mean, there's thirty two GM jobs in
the world. Okay, it's probably one of the most coveted
things in the world. So for twenty some odd years
you were banging from New England to Denver to the
forty nine ers, and last year you got named the
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general manager, which is the the kreme de la crem
in terms of a football other than owning a team,
it's the GM. Did you ever think that day was
not going to come? In terms of all the stuff
you went through, the grinds, the drives, the battles, the
late night dinners, the waffle houses, all the stuff you
went through, did you ever think that day wasn't going
to come.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Uh, you know, I always wanted to come.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
But there was times, yeah, for sure, where I was
worried and I was like, man, I'm not gonna You
always have bumps in the road, right, you know, through
your school life, through your career, through your playing life,
and so there was a lot of times where you know,
I was really frustrated, either.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
With my performance or the situation or everything.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
But I think what was cool was I was I
was very, very fortunate to be one with four grade organizations.
Some started with New England it was like a dynasty
then and learned how to win and learn.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
How to you know, work really fucking hard. Then go
to Denver and we were really good.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
We won five Street Division titles, and learn from from
John Away, from Gary Kubiak, for Matt Russells, some really
like just really cool people.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
And then getting to San Francisco and being.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
With John and Kyle, and John's like, you know, the
biggest influence on my life and my career.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
As a man, as a personnel, person, as a leader.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And so there was a lot of times where I
was worried and frustrated and everything, but but I was
really really lucky to be around.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
A lot of great people and me to get this.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So how they look at your performances based off of
the players that you recommend, Like, all right, we got
Marshall and Lynch right here. I think he'll be a
good fit here, I'll come in. I'm a good fit.
That's points to you, right yeah. So if I come
in and I'm ash and I'm trash, then it's like,
hey man, what what the fuck? You're losing points for that,
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right yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And it's and there's there's so much that goes into it, right,
not just how good you are as a player, and
you were, you were fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So look, give me to give me, give me the breakdown,
just and then use me as a player.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And this is riding on your GM job as you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
If this player worked, then we give you the opportunity
to at least uh interview for the job. What does
it look like you got marshn Lynd shitting right here?
Two thousand and seven draft?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Yeah, as you and you had all day was your
draft class right all the way?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Hold on, Adam, Thank god there was no cell phones.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But back then too, we ain't gonna get it to
all of the up.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I apologize, go ahead at him, I apologize, go ahead
out hey.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
That goes for all of us. Man, trust me, that
wouldn't be yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
But you know, so the way we looked at it
New England is we always valued you know, your versatility,
What could you play on all three downs?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
So and I cross checked all the running backs.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
So not only did I do all the dudes on
the West Coast, but I did all the running backs.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
So my number one running back.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
That year was Marshawn and because I knew what he
could do not only on first and second down, but
on third down. And you're dynamic in the past game too.
So you're looking for a guy who fits your scheme.
It's not so much Shoe is the best guy, most
talented guy, but who fits your scheme, who fits your culture.
And the more and more that I've done this, how
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they fit is more important than the talent. Talent's always
extremely important, but you have to have that mix. So
finding a guy who fits what you do and fits
in your locker room and like you're a competitor and
loves ball and all that stuff that those are where
we make the mistakes. We don't make the mistakes on
how good a guy is. You make the mistakes on
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how much he fits, how well he loves it, you know,
how much of the competitor he is. And that's every
mistake that we've made is because that I've made is
the biggest ones.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Because of that, I can only imagine.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is interesting, morshon And I'm gonna ask you this question. Adam,
looking back to mo Sean in two thousand and seven, Okay,
coming from Oakland going to cal forget the talent and
all that, right, forget all that because you know that
was there. Would you have drafted him to Buffalo because
you're taking a kid from a different part of the
country to Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Would you've would you have? Was that a good move?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And Marshawn's same pulp questioned you, would you've drafted yourself
to Buffalo knowing that that that organization might not have
been ready for you back then?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Adam?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You first, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I think if I was at Buffalo by the time
the GM was at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
But Buddy Nicks, No, it wasn't Buddy Nicks, it was
Marv Levy, Marv Levys, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, and rest in peace Dick Jerome.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Man, they spent a ton of time with you, with
just a little bit of time with you before the draft.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Who was that Marph? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (20:52):
In Buffalo? Like the decision makers did they they fly
you out? Did you do a thirty visits?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
You do any of that stuff?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Well, I mean I did it all, man, I spend
a lot of well I spent a lot of time
with with Marv and.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
With uh dig Jerry.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, like I had to go up there and then
I did the Combine meetings and all of that ship.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
So I mean if they spent all that time with
you and they felt comfortable that you'd be a good
fit there, then that I think it's just a matter
how much work you do. I can't like say he
should or shouldn't have done it. I Mean, that's a
long fucking away from home, and Buffalo is a lot
different than the Bay. But you know, as long as
you have the right culture and the right people, you know,
guys can thrive in different environments. But you know that,
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you know that that's that's the biggest thing, is understanding
and putting getting as much information as you possibly can
to make the best decision and if they did that
and they thought that and they were true to themselves,
then that's a good decision. But if they were just
trying to sell themselves on something and trying to like
convince themselves as will work and maybe that's not right,
then that's when you make bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Adam, you'll you'll love this, and then we'll get to
the combine in a minute. But it's funny. So Marshawn's
going through all the visits and all that stuff. And
you know, back then, everyone to wear suits the visits
and and this this means guys, before the draft, players
will go in and the teams will bring them in
for a visit for a day to meet the coach
and the owner and whatnot. And so I never forget Marshaun.
I picked you up a cow, woke you up like
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a six in the morning. You were flying to Dallas.
And I pick him up, drop him off the Oakland airport,
at him and and and as he gets out, I say, hey,
what you forgot your suit bag? I throw him your
soup bag. He took the suit bag, ripped it up,
through it right back and across. I'm not wearing that shit,
I said, bro, what do you mean I'm not wearing that?
He said, and he'd never forget. He said, if Jerry
Jones doesn't like me for who I am, not what
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I wear, then I don't need to be a cowboy.
And he told Jerry the same thing. And that was
the first time a player said I'm not going to
go through this process and fake it or something I'm
not comfortable in. And Moreshawn didn't do it, and it
was such an eye opener for me as a young agent, thinking,
you know what, how cool is that because Moreshawn drafts
him for who he is. He's not gonna make put
a suit on to fake it. And Marshawn was the
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first player really to do that, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, it's ahead of his time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It was, man, that ship was almost career suicide.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Now it doesn't matter, man, I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Look well, I mean, you know it's gotta start somewhere. Yeah,
I'm just thinking, just just as your process as a
as a player, I know we're gonna get some young
players who I mean is probably gonna look at this
and see, you know what I mean, what what is
it that a GM look like? I mean, I know
you said that if you fish the culture and yeah,
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I mean talent is obviously a big deal. Get character
bo and I mean no particular order. But what does
that process looked for you?
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, it starts really with you know where I started
as an area scout in the area of Scouts. Like,
my job as an area scout when I went to
cal was not just to know like my point of contact.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But I knew Coach Googled, I knew Coach Malichick.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
I knew all those dudes right those and I developed
such relationships with them that way I could have a
real conversation with.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Them about who you are. You know, who you are
as a person.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
What time do you get in like, what do you
do extra like how much time do you put in
on it?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
How much do you love it?
Speaker 7 (24:33):
How much have you competitor on the field, you played
through injuries and all that. So you as an area scout,
you know your job is to be an expert in
your area and know fucking every single.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Thing about Marshaun Lynch.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
And then he brings that back to the college director
and then we have meetings and the GM So all
my now, all my information I get from our scouts
and they tell me in the better the scout out,
the more they know, because the more people they're type
with so understanding everything that makes you tick, man.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Not I mean everything that's their job. What do you
do tonight? Do your homebody? Do you go out? Do
you do you have the girl?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
I mean like all that stuff. Do we know everything
about these guys possible in order to make that decision?
Like fucking everything?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So is it the all right?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Because look, man, I used to think this was bullshit,
So now it sounds like it's the gms who do this.
But I would, I mean, I got drafted, and then
I would come back home, maybe like maybe three four
years after, and I go to some of you know,
the same stores that I used to go to as
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a kid. The guy in there used to call me
Mars Bors. Hey, Mars Bars, Mars Bars. He's like, Man,
a couple of years ago, Man, some people came in
here asking me questions about you and shit, and I'm like, Man,
what the fuck is you talking about? He's like, Man,
I don't know, Man, I don't know. Maybe they was
with the NFL. I'm like, the fuck out. I had
no idea. I didn't think nothing of it. But then
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I went to my elementary school and they asked me something.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like, hey, more shine. Now you know, I see you
doing your football ship and whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
But you know, some people came here a couple of
years ago asking you questions, is it really that deep?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
It's not always that deep, but I think if someone's
going to spend that much, you know, a first round
pick some guys, some guys recycled, Like I never did
the farthest. I would go with high school. I wouldn't
do an elementary schools. But I know some guys that
were area scouts with me out there that would just
like they drive around Oakland and they would they would
ask people ship. And that's a little like on on
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the stage like that was just like a myth like man.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
All right, yeah, so look man, so that ship is
true because like nowadays, you know, you got well, I
guess they make it easy now because they got this
social media ship. How much of that, dude you look
at when it comes to who I want to check
this guy out in a little deeper debt, would you
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go and check social media and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Well, we have a team of people that look at
the social media and all flag This is millions and
tens of millions of dollars. So you know, whatever we
spend on that to help us not make a catastrophic decision,
it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So Moreshawn, that's interesting because you and I talk about
all the time these owners being impatient and the owner
is like wanting results. And so you know there's some teams,
as you know more Shawn in the league that they
can't find a quarterback. You know, your old team, the
Raiders can't find a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And so Adam here, it's it's fate or whatever you
call it. He gets to Washington and guess what, he's
got the number two pick, and who does he get
the quarterback of? You know, probably the next twenty years.
So Adam taking me through how how great that was?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Bucket is wrong. That motherfucker is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Wrong, and that would be Jade and Daniel.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Well, whatever kind of investigating you did, you need to
if it was the PI that you put on him,
you need to go put that motherfucker on everybody because
she he would have found something special.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
He's special, and you know what's cool is and we did.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
We went back to high school, we went back to everywhere,
you know, and talking about him, and the same it was.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Ever, the story was the same every time.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
This is a man, this is a competitor, This guy
loves ball, this guy will do anything to win this.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I mean it was like you couldn't hear every single story.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
High school coach, Herm Edwards, college coaches, private quarterback coaches,
you know, guys that play with them like we talked
to you like you loves him, like I mean, every
single step of the way, teammates, whatever it is, support staff.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
It was just like, this is this is a dude.
Now he's he's reserved, he's laid back, so don't let
that fool you.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Like this is a fucking dog competitor that will will
fucking raise the level of your team.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
And that's what he did, man.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
And uh so you got to rely on all those sources.
But when you hear it over and over and over,
and it's the same thing that gets you a lot
of confidence to pull that trigger.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So you get that, you get this guy at him
as a as a res a rookie GM and it's
like you look pretty.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Good with this guy, don't you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I Mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty good get
in there.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, It's funny. You get like you almost feel guilt because.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Just so really really really blessed, really lucky that that
he was there and that it doesn't happen every draft,
and so yeah, we're very lucky. I feel guilty sometimes,
but just very happy for our organization.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, mar Shawn is it's pretty cool your brother and
your former teammate, Bobby Wagner and him have become very close.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And dan Quinn big head.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
As he would love him too. Man, you would love
playing for d Q, man, he's incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I did play with d Q.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, I played with him as head coach.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, not as a head coach, but yeah, we used
to sit down and he used to throw some defenses
at me, make sure I stayed on my ship. And
then he got Bobby over there command and everything. So
ship that's you know, I mean, I know he got
some big but I wish you would have brought Cable
with him.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah. Now, we we talked to him. We talked to
he was integrated.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Man, Cable because them too, they tight.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, we had a good good talk with him.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
But Cable might be too just a little bit too
gangster for y'all up there right now, man, y'all probably
gotta get you'all feet. We then come bring in at
pind the cable up here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So, Adam, it's interesting we you know as actually you
know a year ago today you saw j Deannis the
first time and we're actually out the scouting combine in Indy.
And by the way, I've been here for six days
and I think I've lost about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Five years in my life.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I got actually I went to go get an IV today, truthfully,
and the place was closed.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I was kind of pissed off.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What people don't understand is that, you know, they look
at the combine at them, and they see the stuff
on TV, the forty yard dashes, they see the broad
jumps all that. What nobody understands is the seven days
of what we go through here as an agent, as
a former player in a GM. And you know, from
my perspective, it's funny. I'll never forget is my thirty
second year at the Combine, thirty second year here. I'll
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never forget early on in the process back then, you know,
you went from the combine right there free agency. I'll
never forget Marshaan, like ninety five, I was doing a deal,
and I met this guy named Bill Pollie and the
former GM of the Colts, who was an old school guy.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He said, hey, meet me at eight o'clock in the morning.
Well the night before I'm out drinking, partying, and I
know what to expect. I meet this guy out and
he's ready to get a deal done. I had no
idea what I was doing. I'm like, oh my god,
I said, hey, I said, mister Polly, I'm gonna have
to get back to you when I get back. I
had no clue how to get a deal done eight
in the morning back then. But the combine atom has
evolved to now this massive week of you know, financial
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advisors are here, businesses are here, equipment companies, interviews, the
whole deal. But it's a huge job, fair for a
lot of people. But take me through quickly outam, how
this has changed from when you started it now?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a huge thing. It's a when
they say a tent pole event for the NFL. It's
a big big deal now and I mean it's on TV,
and it didn't you speak on TV.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
You used to speak out free for all, like when
I first started, when you were a scouting assistant. When
it started at like, in order to interview players, you
had to like fight for guys.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It wasn't organized. There wasn't formal interviews or anything.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
So you'd be fighting other scouting assistants to get interview
these guys for your coaches.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
There would be fist fights, there would be like guys.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Pushing, punching, yelling, Like I had a guy like chasing
after me for like three days that took the guy
that he wanted in order to interview for our coaches.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
So a lots of change. It's a lot more organized.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
It's a lot bigger event, like you said, but there
was no I mean, there was no fanfare to it
at all.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, out of speaking of fights, I don't know if
you heard this mor sewn, there was a fight last
night or the night before in Indy between two media members,
Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport got in a fight, ironically
at a Starbucks. And Jordan's dad is, I can't make
this up, bro. They got in a fight at a Starbucks? Yes,
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because they were they got I don't know what what,
I don't know what happened, but these motherfuckers getting a
fight at a Starbucks at four o'clock in the afternoon
during the combat.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yes, man, So hold on, do they still I mean
I can remember they They was measuring every goddamn thing
on this.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They measure your hand like that, They measure every fuck
like this in.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Reach you know, they measure your joints. They measure Yeah,
they do.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Oh it sounds like it's gotten even more extensive. I remember, Wayne.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Span as you do do your arm.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
They just they just introduced wingspan like a few of you,
like maybe five ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
What I mean, I don't ship, man, I just remember
sitting back there behind this little fucking curtain and motherfuckers
talking about ut yep. They go to meet and all
you can hear and from out the crowd is like
I mean, the it was like an auditorium. I guess
with all these you just heard Hella righting on them.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What the fuck going on out here?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Like, man, they got motherfuckers on the chopping block, Like,
what the fuck going on?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The funniest part is that these guys get you know,
they get to interview players for fifteen minutes, as you know,
or maybe it wasn't back then, but is now and
I never forget like these these are the meetings. And
again I'm not going to name any gams or personnel people,
of course, but they'll ask some young kids, so, you know,
do you drink, do your part a lot?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
And you know, kids gonna you know, no, I don't
smoke pot or I don't drink that much, whatever, And
these guys will kind of get in them like I've
heard you do this, I've heard you do that. And
then I see these same gms at two in the
morning that are damn near passed out in the hallway
the hotel, can't find the room they're in or there
they're far and I'm like, listen, you were the fucking
same guy that grilled my client about partying too much
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as a nineteen year old. You're fifty five years old
and you can't even make back your room.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You've been drink drinking so much? Is am I right?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Adham.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
I've seen guys asleep on the couch in the lobby
as we're going to the wig ins in the morning
and there's like everybody's walking by them talking and this
dude is sound asleep on a bench in the lobby
because they didn't know how to get back to their room.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
That happens every single year.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yet more, Shawn, these guys are then are now downgrading
players in college for these same things that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So it's a little hypocritical. It's gotten better over time, I.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Believe at them, right, Yeah, but it's still funny. So, Marshaun,
here's a funny story. So last year, Adam gets the
job and there's a steakhouse here called Saint Elmo Steakhouse,
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real famous steakhouse. It's like nineteen forty two, and we
go there for a big dinner.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It's a late dinner and it's it's me and Adam
and six seven other people, and we're sitting there and
having some you know, having some drinks, not even that
much food, and so, you know, about midnight, the bill
comes and the waitress puts the bill next to me
and I look at I'm like, I'm sorry, I think
that must.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Be for the wedding. There's a wedding rehearsal in the
other room.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And all of a sudden, I look up and she's
still sitting there and she's like, no, this is your bill,
And I said it was sixty nine hundred dollars, and
I'm thinking to myself, we have no bottle of wine.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
None of us even had miy steaks.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I said, I think this is the wrong check, and
she's like, no, this is the right check. And I said, well,
how do you figure? And she's like, well, you ordered
this tequila and so you know the class Zool, the
blue tequila that's used like fifty bucks a glass, no
matter where in the country, maybe it's forty bucks, fifty
sixty whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
She's like, no, no, you ordered the.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Classe Zuol Ultro Nueva black bottle tequila. And this was
six hundred and seventy five dollars a glass.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I had like six or seven of them myself.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm like, oh my god. And I said no, no, no,
I didn't order this. She's like, yes, you did. I said,
all right. Was your manager around and she's like no.
And so I didn't want to make a big deal.
So I paid the bill. I come back the next
day and I said, listen, I don't want to be
the guy that like has the bill. I says, not
about the money. I got the money, Yes I do,
mar Sean, I says, not about the money.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, you got it. For me.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yes I did. I said, but listen, here's the deal.
I didn't order this damn tequila. And I and he's
and they're like, well, we're gonna check the video monitors.
I said, listen, no disrespect to Indiana, no disrespect to
Saint Elmo's.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Okay, But if I was to.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Order this bottle, I'd want to be in a yacht
santra Pe. I'd want this bottle coming out with dancing
girls and sparklers. I want the bottle at my table.
I didn't order this damn bottle. So this went on
for a month. We had to investigate this order, and
finally the managerer called me back about a month later,
said I'm sorry, mister Hendrickson, you right, you did not
order this.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
What should we do?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And I said, listen, I'll make it easy and he
charged me one fifty glass. I'll still tip the waitress.
She was fantastic. Credit me like four thousand bucks. But
those are the kind of stories that evolved from the combine.
And that was that was That was a good one.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, you got to point there, buddy. You got to
point there, buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's some shit, Adam.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Any any stories like that, you can remember besides that
one with me last year that.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Was the most recent for sure. I think I told
one earlier where I mean I got chasing me around
all week because the like I'd look over my shoulder
and this motherfucker be staring at me because I took
his player that he wanted to interview. And it was
literally for four days, I had a guy chasing me
around the whole times. It was really fucking weird, and
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it was like, dude, what are we doing here, Like
it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hold on it is it still at that it was?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
We was in like I think it was like a
train station that they turned into the whole.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Teap same place more, same place.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
This guy would chase me around, the trains still in
there right now. They don't do it anymore.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
They do everything in the dome now, but it's the
same kind of thing, but it's a lot more civilized
the train.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Station where you ain't got people chasing your ass down
for your interview.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
When I was I went to Combine, look I had
about you know, I was in some I was in
some ship or I had some shit going on. So
I had to meet with all thirty two teams, and
I had to tell that story all thirty two fucking times,
and I just, oh my god. I remember coming back
like motherfucker's like, yeah, man, man, I met with like
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five teams, and I'm like, I feel like, what the fuck.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Kind of man?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well? Who? Man?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I gotta go talk to my agent because I know
this shit ain't right. What you mean five teams?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Man?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Man with thirty two fucking teams today, Like, man, I'm
tired as fuck. And then we got to go out
there and run the show. My man, I was hot
than a motherfucker, Like god damn.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But then that's why I tell.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Doug as he said, well, I mean, you know that's
the penalty you gotta pay for doing dumb shit.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
It sure is, Marchamp, but guess what, guess what you evolved?
Just fine, you battle through it. And speaking of the combine, Adam,
I know you have to run to go go back
to interview players and to go basically watch some more
forties and whatnot. But listen, a man, I'm really proud
of you. You've built an incredible team and you've made
(40:48):
it to the pinnacle. Okay, now you got to go
win the Super Bowl in two or three or four.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
That's right there. That's the pinnacle. That is the pinnacle.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You've done it, Bro, and I I just appreciate the
grind in battle to make it through a junior college
U c l a walk on grind, your scrapp or scout,
driving your car through the through the Upper West and
Pacific Northwest and now being in the big chair. And
by the way, he got a good view there. You
must have a nice suite at him. I think your
owner might have some money.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Huh, he's got a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He got a couple of doubts. Hey, man, go get
a deal done with Bobby too, Man.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
I know I just texted him earlier. We're working on it.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Go get a deal done with Bobby.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
He's hard Marshall, he's a good negotiator, man.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Real, Yeah, I mean that's my that's my son. Man.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I read out of here's the deal. Why in closing
at him? Why don't you get Bobby on FaceTime today?
Put more Shawn on the FaceTime of Bobby and you
can you can do the deal with Bobby and Marshawn.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I want to reach out to him now, but as
I just seen him over the Super Bowl, I'm like,
I'm actually when he gonna hang it up?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
He like, hang it up?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Oh, man, I ain't going no, God damn. Where I said,
all right, was s it? Man, go ahead and get
a deal done with my boy.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
He's special, man.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
I know, worry about him. So they used to competition Wednesday.
They used to like punching at the ball and all
that shit. And Bobby was young. He was coming up
trying to hit on me and shit and not just
telling hey, Bobby, hey, you gotta learn how to practice, bro,
And I walk away. He looking at me like what
(42:19):
the fuck is he talking about? He come up and
do it again. But as he was coming up to
me and trying to punch the ball, I just stopped
and I dropped it in front of him. He looked
at me like, what you doing. I said, I told
you learn how to practice. Don't be coming up trying
to hit on me, motherfucker. I gotta to make it
to Sunday. He like, oh that's what I said, Yeah, motherfucker.
(42:40):
If I waste all my hits on you, then I
don't have nothing for Sunday. Like, man, they make me
do it. Man, you're gonna get me in trouble. I said, well, look, man,
you either get in trouble during the week or we're
gonna be in trouble on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
How you want to play it?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
He said, Man, I'm finna learn how to practice. He did.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Man, smart, smartest hell but he.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
He actually he actually is is is Yeah, I mean
one of the greatest that I've seen do it, and
one that I played with.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
So yeah, man, go take care of my boy.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Man, go find some more players out him, Go find
some more players.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
All right, I got one more for you, Doug. You're ready, Yes,
we'll go.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
Top five Barrier Rappers. Marshan, you're out of this, Dug.
I don't think you don't.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Okay, go ahead more Sean, No.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
It's his Now, I'm gonna see what you got.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Who I got?
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Who's number one for me? Yeah, wrapping around rapping, I
got mac.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Dra number two, Marshawan.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
All now, if you just going, I mean, because it's
the ways you could go about this.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
I'm a little older than you too, so you know
you got a little further back you got. He's a mess.
You got mess for sure.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Yeah, you know, I think the one of the originators
and and still fucking good.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Is too short.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
See that's cheating.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Well, I mean you want to go underground. You want
to go like rb Oposse.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
You want to go like dra Dogs, like Andre Higgs. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta go dray Dog. You dog for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Just the fact that you said that, I'll give you
the pass. You can say one time right now, you
dog baby?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Sean? Who else? Give me some mother? Gi me two
more more? Sean?
Speaker 2 (44:33):
You said two more? Yeah? Where you want to go?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
You want to you want to go into the Bay
or you want to go in in in Oakland.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Yeah you can go. Let's go Oakland.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I want to go to Oakland. I'm gonna go a group.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I'm gonna go two groups, The Loney's in the Delinquents.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
It sucks because they're just known for one song, but
many like it came out, I.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Mean world wide. They known for one song. But she
yeah at home. Yeah it's a little different. You know.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
You know one guy that I always think about and
he's not a he's not a rapper, but he was
the producer.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
You remember Kyrie. Kyrie.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
See he did all the stuff for mac tre for
mac mall for like real Love Like.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
He did all the beats. He did all the beats,
and he just disappeared off the face of the earth.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Hey, you know what I told you, you get you
get one pass.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
You get one, you get one pass.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Never using a buddy, you never. Oh, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Okay you really are you really an old school Yeah?
You really old school Bay Area.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I respect it, Adam. I appreciate that right there. That
is that is really fucking cool, bro.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Hey, he had dou I know, look, and he excluded
you for a reason.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't know any
of those fucking guys, I got it.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
I love the insane down to E p A remember them. Yeah,
it might be too old for you.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Nah, hell no, you're right. You gotta. You got band
aid and school the hood stars out of E p
A too.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, mister fab you know obviously toes.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Out there, uh out out that way was saying oh
or something like that. But yeah, man, but then you
start getting back this way. Yeah, that's that's real ship.
I mean, you know, I could go younger too, but yeah,
I don't know any of the new stuff.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
We had a couple of guys on our team, like
one of ducks clients, Jeremy mc nicholas put.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Me on some new guys.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
I gotta start listening to that, man, because I'm like,
I just listened to ship that I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Man, I understand it.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
But you you went and you went in your uh
you went in your bag, my boy. A lot of respect, man,
and congratulations on the success that you've been having.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
And I know you because you got to.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You got a good group over there.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Really, you got a good group over there.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I mean with with with with d Q quarterback Bobby
right in.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Man, you'd be right. I mean, this is this is
the kind of guys you like. Man.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Oh no, we do with Mo Shaun all over.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
I could give you a play, No, I couldn't look that.
When I came out of retirement for the Seahawks. The
last time I.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Remember that was with the Niners, and y'all had him.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I don't know who the fuck was y'all left d
n and a big motherfucker, big, big motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I came out and tried to hit him with that
little chip before I got into the fucking flat.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Oh, my whole right side went up.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Why, I ran straight to the I chipped him and
ran straight to the sideline, took a knee, like man,
hold on. These little motherfuckers built different.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
Yeah that was in Seattle, right, that was when we're
in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, I remember that because we were
like wondering, why is he not in the game?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, because that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
My whole right side of my body was numb than
a motherfuck the game, wondering what Man. I went to
the sideline for like two plays and I while I'm
down there on my while I'm down there on the knee,
they give me water more shan you all right? I'm
like yeah, you know, just shaking back into it. And
the whole time I had the fucking epiphany come to
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my mind. Pee, I could be on my couch right
now watching this game, smoking a blunt with a shot
of Hennessy, and I'm out here trying to hit this
big motherfucker light. Oh man, I had to shake that
ship real quick, come back to terms, like all right,
let's get back into the game. But then we went
and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
They trick so well, Adam, listen, you gotta run, buddy. Uh,
what a way to end it? On the on the
Barrier rappers. Man, that's awesome. I appreciate the knowledge. You're
welcome with more Shawn and Oakland anytime and season.
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Thanks guys, thanks for the time. MANI
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