April 11, 2023 • 45 mins
The New Jersey sessions are more than airable. Kate’s in a hotel and hungry. Jacqueline did an ice plunge and took audio. A friend’s enthusiasm for The Bodyguard. The speed of the moon. The rollercoaster stomach drop. A series of measurements, unopened and expired. To shake from below. Continued next week.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate ber Lamp. I'm Jacqueline Novak. And this
is POUG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends,
two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products. This is HOUG.
Today's topics luicily speaking cyclone A series of measurements, so
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listeners shall be thrilled to know. In fact, here comes
the Jersey sessions. Enjoy the titillation of the repetitions. Etter,
enjoy it, enjoy it. I'm in New Jersey, Okay, I
am not at the law phone. Not is it a
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parking lot? I imagine there's nothing outside? Is it a
parking lot? Is it one of those off a highway?
So I pull up? Has its own glamor, I'll say,
but anyway, we'll get go. Why to reframe it all
for you? Glass doors, open, elevator, Where do I go?
So that was the lobby was empty except for an
The lobby is like hidden up. So then I go
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up and I was like, oh, Then up to the
lobby you go, Hi, checking in, checking in? They go, okay, Dad,
and I'm here for work. So you know, they're like incidentals.
I was like, sure, okay, and then it's like and
I was like, is there room service? She's like, no,
the way you get you get you get that. You
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can order food, but you have to come down to
the lobby to get it right. And that's when the
knife goes right through the between the two eyes, Yeah,
into the pinail gland, permanently disfiguring capacity for memory. And
I'm a sport I go, okay, thank you. She's by
like she's coughing all over her hands, handing me his trip,
and they've you've been put up. Yeah, that wast on here. Yeah, yeah,
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that's why. So okay, you haven't chosen, like, that's why
you're in this situation essentially. And I go up to
the room. First thing I do look up on Google
Maps where the love low. How far it is from you?
It's twenty seven minutes away. Twenty seven Your job is
in Jersey. It's better. I don't even know where I'm
shooting little life. I know it is it is. I
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believe it's in Jersey. And if I sound ungrateful, I am, Yeah,
who cares, It's fine. I'm so tired. I've yeah, you
know me nine hours a minimum, Yeah, I got. I'm
looking at one night of four hours, one night at
around five or six, and then another night dancing into
the night. Though probably knowing you, Yeah, yeah, I do
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to dancing, and so no one feels sorry for you
on that one. Okay, you've been arguing on poog for
six years. Okay, okay about how or sometimes getting no sleep,
But if you're dancing all night, you wake up more
refreshed than ever for one night. For one night, okay,
I think that. But I think you've been prisoner of
multiple nights dancing under the moon. You've been held prisoner
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by a series of invitations you couldn't refuse. I have
to say, last night I saw the moon. It felt
I mean, it was a significant moon to me. But
I had never even seen the moon over there. I've
been living at this place where seven years ago. What
this moon's never been over there in my own home,
and I could have sworn the moon had never been there.
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Remember we were talking about your patio and whether or
not you were going to need shade out there. Yeah,
I didn't understand the sun. I was like, well, go
out and see where the sun is on your porch
throughout the day easiest way, really, right, versus like I
faced north whatever shining on me. You're not clearing whether
the sun moves. That was the thing which I found surprising,
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that the idea that you weren't aware that, like relative
to your own experience. I'm not talking like I struggle
with that stuff too, okay, And I think it's weird,
not too Frankly, No, I agree because these people, Yeah,
they're like, I mean, are you kid, Like we're not
clear on movement? Yeah? I always remember it by you
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know what, where does the sun rise and set? Okay? Yeah? Um.
They used to try to remember via Beauty and the Beast,
like rising in the east. But then I was like,
where's it west? Yeah? The cowboy rides west and sunset
doesn't he sure fucking does. He rides into the sunset,
and he's obviously headed west right west. Yeah. Although, yeah,
all right, so this is what I'm talking about. To
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have an advanced degree, do not know where the sun is?
Is like exactly the contemporary to see your advanced degree.
It was a goddamn Galatin and cross. I was disciplined,
you know, so no surprise there. Yeah, I was studying
the fragment in its relationship to liminality. So how could
I possibly know where the hell the moon is? Yes?
On a good night? Oh my god? Sorry, go on?
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What was I saying? Oh? Yeah, so what am I saying?
Tired and plaining about a glorious But I will say
I was jet bluement, honey, and you know, be on
the plane and it was funny. Uh, it's not funny,
gonna it's funny. I it's the same menu for my
previous man experience, fucking bowl between the eyes. Well, and
I will say that I was shocked. I don't know.
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I kind of like thought every menu was like fresh
as fun. I know when they repeat what is it monthly?
I guess I don't know, but I don't know. I
was like I've rooted it twice. I was whatever, you know, emotional.
I was really swept up in the new Launa del ray.
It's my it's my first real Luna plunge. And I
when I tell you, yeah, I listened to kind of
the album for like five hours. What was under five hours?
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It was like four hours and something. I skipped around
to some other tracks. Of course, I'm not a lunatic.
But I'm in an altered state, so you could ask
me anything and I would. All I'll say is no,
this is about me physically, which is your energy? Is
so whatever? Right now that I'm slipping into something in
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response as hell you want me to go up? No,
I just felt myself like, no one's jealous or no,
no one's sad for you, Kate, like I slipped into it,
like it was funny and Jeremy Maguire energy it. But
I no, just how dare you wait? What are you
gonna sing? There's a tunnel sham bah okay, great? Um.
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So I took a cold ice plunge bath two nights
in a row. Wait, talk me through it? Okay are
you ready? Well? Why talk you through it? When I
have audio? Okay, let's see here. I just had to
record myself. One. Hey, I fall silent and I'm breathing.
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Now there's no the second amen, I cannot speak. This
was gonna be a live recording. Wait, so it's true ice.
So I dumped three trays of ice into just a
cold bathtub. Okay, now yeah, I know that's not that cold.
That good? Okay, I get in I'm like, oh no, okay,
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like you know, the immediately regret. It's like you're like,
it's mine and I'm gonna do it, and then you
go and and it wasn't like when you and we
have gotten into the cold plunges, which you're immediately up
to your neck and you're just fucking in. This is like,
because it's a bathtub, you kind of have to make
it work to get under. And so it's sort of
like I was almost in a pike position, you know,
like leaning down like that, and then my shoulders were
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still naked, and so the waters gently lapping at the
border of where it's covering me and not and like
getting me and and I couldn't speak. I immediately went
into like this like oh okay, it's intense. Breathing was
instantly brought on, and then pretty quickly it was like, fine,
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it's weird. Really, I mean the part I was under
and then last night I did it again is well,
I was like leaned down as a mergery. I mean,
I'm in a pike position, so I'm leaning down, so
you're trying to hike you throw hike position. I guess
it's an old gymnastics term. Okay, just legs straight in
front of you like you're doing a ham like you're
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doing a seated forward bend stretch. All I'm struck with
is the fact there's no baths over this hotel room
which I ran. When I ran and immediately peered in
nothing one of these. Okay, but okay, got it. You
see she's holding her toes with her legs spread out,
I mean, sorry, legs straight forward and reaching like you're
doing a forward seated stretch. So I'm bent down, so
you know, I'm mostly in Okay, So I do my
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tracy workout, and I do it with heat and humidity
in the room, as you know, and then I'm so
I'm cranked up, and then I prepare the bath like
or a few minutes before I go back in front
of my inferred space here to get really hot. And
then I go in. And last night I did it again.
I put on Whitney Houston. I was just looking for
a song like that was around like three minutes, because
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I want to be in there for three minutes. As
I put on I Will Always Love You. Why weird
you bring it up? Because I had a friend be like,
you have to watch The Bodyguard. I've never seen it,
you know, I don't think I've seen it either, and
she reenacted a scene. I thought it was like, it's
like the hottest thing I've ever heard. Something about a
sword and a scarf. Wow, yeah, wait, what's happening with
a sword? I'm gonna see it. But something about she's
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playing with his sword, that she has his apartment and
she's waving it around and this is hot. He takes
the sword and hold it to his chest, and then
from what I'm told, there's a scarf around her neck
or something. He takes the scarf. He throws it up
in the air, and the scarf starts to drift down
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and the blade slices it. The blade is so sharp,
the scarf is sliced. This was reenacted for me. That's
a phallic knife splitting the red woman. Yeah, yeah, into
I mean that right, Oh yeah, interesting. And I mean
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some ways it sounds hot. It was like nothing like
in some ways it sounds it's actually nothing. It sounds
like a magician and a Nightmary, you know exactly. This
is the thing about about memory. Um it was I'm
caught up in my friend reenacting it for me unexpectedly,
in the intensity in her eyes. Oh my god, yeah,
she grabbed. It was so real. I was exhausted. It
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was one I am. It's completely enraptured the friend. No, right,
the friends, the friend being enraptured by the memory enough
to communicate it to you, right, yes, yes, that's where
the seduction that worked on, the eroticization via the the
channel of the friend's enthusiasm. You know, there's nothing like
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a friend's enthusiasm to make you do anything. Um. By
the way, I packed in such a psychotic state that
I only brought one pair of shoes. Yeah, shoes take
up too much room. That's a first. I would say
one brought one more one. I brought one pair period.
Just want to be clear you, I did not pack
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a single shoe. I wore my shoe and I have
one shoe for the whole trap brought. Okay, good girl.
I'm like, I don't want to crowd breast. Now, what
what's the shoe? Because we're looking at You're working so exactly,
we're working, not going to be out. I didn't even
I went, I went, I'll bring some messcare, I'll bring somebody.
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I didn't even bring up whoa guys today, I not
bring a lipstick. That's unheard of. Wow, it's gotta be
a lipstick in there. But this is a I have
a DM is what the brand is like a kind
of a hiking sneaker. They're incredibly comfortable. Uh yeah, so
why I pulled something up? Um some of my interests
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screen grabs something for you. Let's see. Um. Oh you
know we need we need to get into I've heard
peptides were I can't believe you're talking about peptides. Because
Josh Rosebrook was talking who I met was it absolutely
met him spontaneously at Credo Beauty Magician. Yeah, I was
talking about it was unbelievable to meet him. M beautiful products,
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beautiful beautiful line. Incredible to hear his story. It was
like creating products when he's like a teenager dying to
try his products. I won't lie. Absolutely get well, yeah,
he's got to get them to you. But he makes peptides,
and he said he was likely listen, I don't do
great other brands, but there's a reason peptides are expensive. Yeah,
He's like, sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
If someone's selling you peptide cream and its thirty bucks,
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it's just not the real peptides. This is huge because
I'm talking about injectibles that you inject into your stomach.
Oh see, I was talking about talking about not for skin. Wow, Okay,
but I still think there's there's a good I don't
know what they're talking about. Yeah, So it's like one
of these things I see on the menus at like
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that place that I got them, the IV, the hydra,
the nadya, and it's like this other level under like
medical services, like what and then they say you can
also order them your home and stab yourself from the
lower abdomen with them, and you know, I know nothing,
and I'm sort of exhausted by the prospect of another thing.
Of course the whole time, if it's keeping up with
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anything that is supplementation is very hard. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
so I'm not I'm not even sure where to begin there.
And I think they're not cheap, can't imagine they are.
And then the problem is, you know, of course if
they work, now you're on the hook, right, So it's
like that's the problem with buying something. Well, peptides are
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I mean, it's it's like there's different ones and the
body produces them naturally. But like I think human growth hormone,
like is a peptide or something. I don't know. I
know nothing, but I've seen benefits promised and the other
thing I fucking want, and I send it to you,
and it is so it looks it looks like an
eighties informercial. And yet I guess who's buying into the
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pure reviewed science the bionic gym. I think I sent
you a clip you did, didn't straight up panels on
the legs that are activating fast twitch muscles. Okay, the
legs are dancing. Of course, I've seen okay, plug their
ass into all right, but no, but this is supposed
to be more than that. This isn't the laying on
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the doctor's table and it's the tens or whatever. This
is something else. This You are sweating your fucking face off,
and there's cardiovascular so people are sweating, their heart rate
goes up. Wow, so apparently it's a full workout while
you watch TVA. This guy at his office or whatever, okay,
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in his desk yet just like shaking from below. And
I reached out, not truly and said hey, and I
decided there was no time to gauge your interest and whatever,
and so I just decided to include you and said,
you know, we would love to try this. You know,
we traw all sorts of things, and I love the
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promise of spring no of of of muscular stimulation that
will burn six hundred and an hour. You know, But
now will that replace anything? Noah, okay, but it'll be
a nice bonus. I was thinking I could strap them
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on if I'm gonna lay in the higher dose. You freak,
why not also strap You're okay? And then how many
devices kind of get going? By the way, By the way,
huge news. I don't know if you've opened, but I'm
so excited. Dennis Gross new doctor Dennis spectral light. Okay,
I have to say something improved. Yeah, so I he
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sent us the spectral mask, the led, the blue light
that ice where to God? And red light? Yeah yeah,
I'm sorry, and red light. I don't even think this
might not even be it, but I sort of got
I do it, like two days in a row. I
felt a difference. Fox. Yeah, look that well, I believe.
So this so the new spectru light fullhead. Okay, but
the new spectrum light, it's not an AD to be there? Yeah, yeah,
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we will wait. So it's bigger, it covers more around
the eye area. It's just for the eye area. This
one is just for the eye area, though you could
move it around your entire body three minutes at a
time if you wanted to, because that's the thing as
three minutes, Why not too six? Right? Like, talk to
me about that, I think because three minutes has an effect,
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and you're selling people on how quickly can be done,
But why not pop in for six? I think you
can keep it on. I mean, I think you can,
but I believe the new one has more LEDs and
I think it might even penetrate deeper. But I have
to check on that. I I don't have it in
front of me. Although, um, so I've been so I've
been blasting myself with our light path led brand light
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at the end of my workouts. Yeah, I've been sitting
there in the nude getting blasted. Great, I gotta get
when I get back. You gotta get that. Yeah, it's
um the combo of red light and infred But I've
got all the spectrums going because I've got the heat
producing infrared that's heating up my body from the inside
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out versus cooking you from that outside end. Like the
average heater. Then we've got the infrared and the and
the red LED two different spectrums. So that's now we
got three going. I'm just looking to see if the
spectrulate information has launched here it is get ready for
next generation our new spectrum late ninety six red LEDs
and four wave links. That's thirty percent more than before. Yeah,
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you know, I love and to be clear, not an ad,
but you know I love when a brand isn't afraid
to improve their product. Okay, of course, I mean I
know new improved as an old, you know, bullshit thing. Yeah,
but in this day in hande, I feel it still
takes courage to go. You know, we're going back to
the drawing board on this one. Yeah, forgive me for um.
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I'm like clearly, I'm like, you gotta drive. I'm so um,
I'll drive you pull together. I screen grabbed something else
for us. Let me just see what it is. Open me,
uh damn me? You like it? Fuck me to del
(18:33):
Remember how hard we laughed the other day? Oh my god,
that felt really. I listened to have sent it because
I had sort of forgotten, and then I listened to it.
The joy brought the joy not believe it. And I
was talking to you today about the power of when
you laugh so hard or when someone really makes you
laugh like that. It's rare in life. There's about three
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people that can do that. To me. It really is. Yeah,
pure your four Yeah, oh god, yeah, it really is.
When it takes over. Well, you know, Nietzsche said, what
tell me now, oh, just like at the height of
wisdom is laughter. And here I go, oh, I'm trying
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the Zozo suit. I'm so ill. Um the Zozo suit
is the thing I got sent. You had no interest.
You were like, do you want a Zozo suit? I
was like, no, yes, and so it Well, what's funny
is that it started as um a way to get
like perfect measurements for like the idea. It started almost
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like it was like you're not a size, you're not
a number, Like you're a serious I've never okay, but
you know, like like but they're like they're like it
was almost for you know, this idea of a universalized
thing where you go, no, I'm not a I'm not
a six, I'm a you go girl, okay, Like it's
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like no, I'm thirty two. You know, here and this
and that whatever and so it's a suit you pull
on like a shirt and it looks like much like
um long John's. Okay, So it's a tight ish fitting thing.
It's covered in these little circles and these these other
things that then you um stand in front of your
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phone and you turn in a slow circle. They go
turn to three o'clock, turned to four o'clock. Scan complete,
and then this graphic image of like, you know, you
as a sort of whatever figure pops up and I
was like, yeah, that is my body anyway. So it
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started this thing like you're gonna have these really precise
measurements that you can like send. I think they thought
maybe it was going to become standard. Everyone has Zozo
suit at home and then everyone's custom sized you know clothes.
Then of course it was immediately it was immediately swept
up by the fitness nuts who were like, all gained
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afternoon my bicep. Yeah, and they love it because you know, measuring, measuring,
measuring is constant in that community. So then so then
it branded a quarterly Yeah well yeah, I mean it's
yeah and the women of Beverly Hills where yeah right
uh and me yeah, okay, because I love data and
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so in I go and I don't know. I just
love when the data feels. I don't know, it's fun
to see this weird model of my own body and go,
that's me stripped of all personality to finally be. And
I was like, there's also a remember in Madman, like
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take a paper bag and put it over your head.
We've talked abou right, analyze your strength and weakness, you know,
And I don't know, it's kind of a thrill. It's
kind of a thrill. Will see myself made of lines.
WHOA she's showing she's yeah, yeah, Um, I'm working with
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bands now right, I don't know, really no, no, I
was thinking, no, no, we can here's what we can do. Um,
I've been thinking shit all week to talk about I
really need to get my shit together with like writing
it down. I guess I have written some stuff down.
I was, um uh, I got nothing, no way around it.
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I am going to after this, I'm going to hopefully
sleep for twelve hours. I was sitting around Okay, last
night I had a dream that I had a coffee
machine that you had handed off to me, and I had,
therefore a means of steaming milk. Okay, I had to stream,
and then I woke up, going, I have no means
of stealing steaming milk. And then I thought to myself,
(23:15):
what was Kate talking about the other day? And she said,
you know then espresso steamer, and I was like, sounds
familiar with it, Like why do I don't I feel
like I had one of those. I couldn't. And then
I went to the cabinet and it was there. I
reached under and it was deep, and I pulled out
I can't live without it. And then I pulled out
I was going to use cream, and then I pulled
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it out and it expired. It was unopened and expired,
which is always an honor to have to deposit into
the trash directly, both a disposable container and union used
gorgeous cream. Disgusting um, Like, what's wrong here? I know
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what's wrong with you? Where there's a there's a layer
in which we're not the sun. I know what's wrong
with me. I'm severe hardness. Yeah, I'm a bit compromised
by a headache, by the fact I can't sleep with
a pillow apparently, or wake up in pain. I think
I'm gonna have to go back to no pillow and
a fucking wash that slept without a pillow. I couldn't
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believe this girl. No, it's what. Yeah, and by the way,
it started just because she like didn't get one and
then just it never took. Well, if you sleep on
your back, I think a lot of pillows fuck you,
because then you're like you got on the back. It's
like you're lying in your back and your head is
in the same position it was all day when you
were hunched over your device desk. Yeah, and uh, I
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dropped my phone and then I think toilet twice. Um,
I had to pluck it out a while the toilet
was flushing recently. Yeah, piss only Hell yeah, it's like
reached in and and it's back in use. That's all,
you know, Like it didn't visit didn't visit a government
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sanitization place. You know, I did my best, of course,
but I actually the government sanitation chambers, they you know,
if they offered them this at home. Yeah. Yeah, Well
here's a question, Uh, what do we think about a
machine that you know, a no scrub scrubber for the bathtub,
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because I want to get my bath in good shape
right now if I'm going to be doing these cold plunges,
but the usual harsh chemicals that I'm interested in using
for a bathtub. Yeah, then you're soaking. Then you're soaking
in them. So is there is it industrial? I have
this in my cart today that I'm or is it industrial?
Thirty percent concentrated white vinegar combined with baking soda. Throw
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it in there, a little bit of dish. So there's
one question though, talk to you about the smell of vinegar. Yeah,
well you know that, you know the claim always what
what the claim with the vinegar cleaning is that the
scent of vinegar just dissipates, not immediately, I'll say that much. Yeah,
I mind it. I've smelled it. I've smelled it before
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and I'm like, well, that smells like vinegar. But I
guess it's because it was just used in theory. But
I like the idea of it working. I like the
idea of the tub in baking soda right then spritzing.
That's the that's the that's like the healthy or the
you know, green version of ajax. Really and it works,
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it works. Wait, bond bond, I think that's what's called. Yeah,
you checked. I'm looking right now at it. At the product.
How quick did you move? You've only seem to go
one know, I'm typing in right now. You're sure it's
not bona bona shit? Because I say something because I
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saw something when I was when I was looking at today. Wait,
you've got it. Wait what's it called? Because there is
a thing called because I was looking today, Like essentially,
do I do I start up with swiffer again? You know, like,
oh I think I'm above it, am I? Because what
the fuck is good? The best mop is the one
you use? You know that that concept yea of photography.
(27:23):
Best camera is the one you have in your pop?
What's the cleaner called bona b Wait? Hold on, there's
something that was like yeah, oh okay, okay, okay, it's
called it's called works folks, bonbon bonbon folks. It works, Okay,
it's called bona me. I don't think, but bon bond
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is way cuter. And then there is also bonam mop.
I'm just looking next swiffer. It looks humongous, which you
know I'm interested in. I mean, let's see her open me. Yeah,
tell me you like it? Fuck me to death? Um,
(28:07):
this is this is not good. Let me tell you that. Yeah,
I almost go rerun. I mean i'd literally almost go rerun.
I know we could call this episode skip this episode.
We've done that before. We didn't know. Please don't say
that we haven't. We've We've pitched it, and I've said, like, folks,
this one is a skipper. I think. I think that's
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only the real die hards. I'll listen to this shit
and we're back. That is the Sessions, the Jersey Sessions.
(28:53):
I didn't listen to all of it. I won't lie
me neither, But I you didn't listen to all of it,
or any I didn't listen to any I'll admit I
listen to some. I can't lie to you. I've tried
to lie, and I just I won't have I'm not able,
and sometimes maybe I should learn. Okay, But as I
listened to I thought to myself, some might go, what
(29:15):
about this one? Did they think wasn't terrible? Right? This
is pure gold? Or this is no worse than anything else?
I of course I know. Anyway, Well, welcome to this week.
I'm having Can you hear my voice that I'm a
little diminished, sad or something? Sure, I'm fine, No, but
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I'm just a little here, I fucking go, let's hear it. Well,
yesterday it was a full moon. I just mean like
I am maternally self conscious about being someone who references astrology. Um, yeah,
you have to let go. It's it's here the patriarchal
voice I was raised with, which was um and you know,
watching Husbands and Wives the thirteen year old room, which
would he I wrote about a churcher who's you know,
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basically revealed to be a complete fucking fool um for
being a California yoga instructor into astrology. And it's dragged
out of the dinner party by her hair for being
an idiot. Um right, I'm not gonna go into that further.
But um, I have come to learn that my aries moon,
as you, no full moon, full moon, what fucking ever
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it was? It was full yesterday, full moon and libra.
And that's your aria all about the wounded Healer. Well,
now you've piqued my interests. Okay, Well you know what,
you know what I could talk about that archetype wounded
Healer's dan all that also, Joel, why the hell is
the wounded Healer president? You, let's hear it. I don't
know it's not always comes to mind first when I
think of caper Land. No, absolutely not. How about this? Apparently,
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this full moon's also about that which is unconscious, but
that which we know to be true. Wait, isn't that
a paradox in a certain sense? Oh, that which we
that which is uncon which is unconscious, but we know
to be true, the unconscious true. Right of course it doesn't. Dare. Please,
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don't anyone confuse me for someone who's uncomfortable with paradox. Okay, no, no,
I'm trying to meaning, no, it's unwise what I said?
What was it coming from an app and had they
said those words? And I think so, I'm kind of
paraphrasing unconscious. Is it something like something that had become like?
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Is it a linear? Is it a story something that
was unconscious that now is known? Is it that which
was once known? Wait, by the way, was the moon
in a new position near your home? Something that was
covered on the contents? Actually? Last well, last night, this
I'll never understand. Last night, I was sitting outside at
a bar. I look over, I scream, Wow, so bright
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full moon peering through the trees. I turn to the people.
I'm having a drink with talk talk talk. I turned
back maybe three minutes later. The moon's in the moon shifted,
it's higher. Wait it moves that quickly? What maybe you
were We talked about this during the contents, but um
of the episodated listening, but slightly different. That's why I
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referenced it, but slightly different issue. But okay, I can't
believe I'm the same. How many minutes every day were
you talking? Couldn't have been more than six six? I
think there are well I think about it this way quickly.
Is that moon moving well here, I don't know, but
here's the I mean, I don't even know at all moves.
But you think about a sunset, right, think about watching
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a sunset? Goddamn fast that ship moves god damn fast. Now, yeah,
those relative speeds in relation to you know, I don't know.
But the point is there's a moment when it's when
you can see it when you can't. And in that moment,
I refuse to believe we aren't ruled by the planets. Okay, Um,
I'm going to break through because I have good news
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for you. What's that or going to Disneyland? I know,
I know we are no so we have a date
the listeners we have Jacqueline and I with two friends
are going to Disneyland and Jacqueline so I have essentially
never been. I went as a child. I at Disneyland
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as a child for a friend's birthday party. I believe
I've talked about this on who lied to my friend's
mother about having diabetes because I'd seen it in the
Baby Serious Club movie Stacy. Yeah, I was like my
diabete in the books. But I'm sure the mother stopped
and was like you you're diabetic god? And I was like,
oh no, no, like she thought my mother had sent
me to Disneyland, not telling right, supervising adult. And then
you were like, no, I have diabetic tendencies. No, I
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just want to truro now. I Oh, you were trying
to get a snack. No, I don't know what it was.
One time my cousin and I were at Playland where
I Playland with my dad and my cousin Rachel, and
she she was so thirsty, but she couldn't bring herself
to ask my dad to get a drink. It went
so far as him offering like, does anyone want anything?
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I'm gonna get a soda and her being like, no, thanks,
She couldn't say that's so. By the way, this is
so because the childhood thing of being at the friend's
house after school and you're starving, You're fucking starving, gone on,
but it's not your parents, so you can't be like,
get me a goddamn snack. You just have to suffer
nothing scarier. Essentially, why I don't socialize. Yeah, it's acknowl
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Because the hunger. Yeah, the fear of hunger and then
having to put on a put on a massive show,
a full scale musical. Should I decide to break through?
And I actually I don't know if I really deal
with this anymore. But um but wait, I have, in
the literal sense, never been to Disneyland. Wait what, well,
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it's here in California. I didn't grow up in California,
this one. I've lived in California for a couple of years.
So no. I went to Disney World when I was
like three, Okay, so you're in. When I was twelve,
you went and it was fucking phenomenal. I remember a
major sort of episode around Splash Mountain and can we
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get out of line? Because I'm just too afraid of
the big drop. It was like, can I get a
lot might be under renovation. I know, I saw that
you've been doing some research, which is no ears. I
want sparkly ears. Um, what do you mean mouse ears? Well,
I definitely that's a big part of the culture, is
wearing the ears. Really. Yeah, it's almost strange to not
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wear them there. Well, there's a question of what one
wears two it's really hard. I think, I know because
I'm gonna wear jeans. Yeah, I mean I do think
it is. I mean anything else? What else could you wear?
Wear a leisure as you know, I mean you have
worn it? I have, of course. Okay, No, I think
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it's jeans. But if you wear if you wear a
healed shoe or something, no bullshit like that. Come on,
you know, for sensuality, because like I want to be
turned on still at Disneyland. Okay, you never know who
I might meet in line? Well, exactly, that's also gone.
Anything I am I'll be wearing. I can see the
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sneaker in my eye. Did I tell you that I
had to return a sneaker twice because of the shoe size?
I said, sure? Did baby in the guard you haven't.
I was trying to. But first of all, I want
to be very clear, I am a massive repeater. It
generates to a point of yeah, like I feel like
I can talk six minutes straight, same sentence. Repetition. I
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love repetition of music. I like repetition. I enjoy repetition.
I enjoy fortunate on others. But does Disneyland. I just
think that's gonna be fun. That's all I have to say.
I'm wondering about You got to think about what, Well,
this is a huge topic for me. We're going to
really get into it. Sunscreen. Well, what kind of purse?
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You do not want to be a fool fuck with it?
When you're getting on a serious ride with a bunch
of bullshit. You also don't. So no, it goes You're
not gonna have something on one shoulder hauling your ass around.
There's one answer, and one answer only. Fanny pack. Yep,
and it doesn't It's not just for the moms and
the granddads. I have a Patagonia fanny pack that I
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will bore. Yeah, I think it is a fanny pack,
and our SPF will be in there. Wonderful, get high,
I won't. I want to pure. I actually haven't been
high months. I'm not like I haven't been. It's not
like I don't know yet. I mean marijandering me, Yeah,
I just haven't. I haven't consumed TC. Honestly, I gotta
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say I think it's been. I could actually do it
the math. Why not just do it here? I am
like eight months, I haven't I haven't had had THHC since.
Remember when I went off the gummies, the restless leg gummies.
I was going to sleep? Yeah, yeah, and then I
think I might get back into it. Yeah, I just
truly because I can't work, I can't perform and be
ingesting THHC. And I've been I used, I was working
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for so long, but I just naturally couldn't be high.
But now I'm unemployed again. I don't know why you
need to get back into it. I don't know why
you'd want like actively try to like add it to
the like, hey, like, why don't we ask just for fun?
I was like, no, it could be fun tonight having
a night in alone. Sure, I was thinking I could
maybe take a couple of hits of a Drew Martin
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low dose joint rithe in my bathtub, read some and
Carson and cry a little. Yeah, I don't. I've never
really enjoyed the marijuana high. It's interesting, like there are
times where it was like okay, well yeah something anything,
you know, like where I'm like, I want to have experiences. Sure,
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I don't know, I don't know. Wait but wait, but
I wanted to go back. I've had a good time.
I want to talk about I want to talk about
part more. Okay, So, so one you will be in
a proper shoe. I will not be slowed by a lie.
I had to hit off a joint last week. Okay,
keep going? What who cares? Do you remember or did
you remember earlier when you were trying to do the
math on how many months did it? Just now? Okay,
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oh so you located you know, truth not a lie.
And I'd say I took a hit in Jamaica too.
Didn't get high though. Okay, you know what I'm trying
to say. Basically, I haven't touched the stuff in a while. Okay,
keep going, keep going. Shoes. So yeah, there will be
no accommodating, like you know whatever, anything that you do
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for style, slowing us down Disney will not be acceptable. Okay,
if you show up with anything that could slow us down. Okay, listen,
I'm gonna Fannie pack good now. Now the next question,
how do you feel about roller coaster deaths? Because they're real?
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I have no interest in a serious roller coaster. There
aren't real roller coasters, aren't They all like for babies,
But roller coaster deaths dying on a coaster, yeah, well
I don't. We're not gonna. They don't have brain rattlers
at Disneyland. They have something I saw. I was looking
going because I was like, so as a kid, you know,
I faced the fear of the roller coasters and kind
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of enjoyed it in a classic sense and might be
like observational humor. And at the age of eight, was
that like the loop de loops, like, actually aren't scary
part like because those were like, oh, that's the scariest
one here. It's got a loop de loop. You go
upside Dad, never gone upside down in a roller coaster.
The upside down is nothing. It feels like you're just like, ah,
it's like nothing. It doesn't feel like anything, you know,
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it remains the most heinous thing ever. Drop drop, the drop,
a drop drop the drop is hearing it there is
I mean let's can we talk about the drop for
a few minutes. We talk about tea durings the top
of the coaster. The last time I was at the drop.
So I wrote the cyclone quite a few times at
Coney Island, yes, many many years ago. And that thing
is that will fucking rock you. That's whiplash. It's barely
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held together. Wait, I know it's genius. Um, Joey Gay
had a joke, was genius about I believe about Wait
what was it called? What is it? The cyclo cyclone
of Coney Island about like going and being like going
and being like waiting in line of the cyclone, the
whole thing, and being like, this is my one hundredth
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ride on the cyclone, like I've done it, I'm doing it.
This is my one hundred ride, you know, like getting
people really excited that he's done this many times. And
they gets on and they start going up, up, up up,
and he goes, oh, what's that noise? It's genius. That's good.
I love it. And then I remember I said some food,
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but ride Planeland, going up, going up a roller coaster
with my dad, like going and like this is you
know when you like make a joke as a child,
and it's not that well received. So I was I
was like making a joke. Like the joke I was
making was to yell out, um, you know, I was
scared going up the ride, so the joke I was
like to yell at like, let me off the ride.
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This is child abuse, okay, But I kep yelling this
is child abuse. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah again. My dad
was like, you know, like don't yell at like yeah, yeah,
And you get to the top okay, and you go
down and it hits oh fuck, the tension in the
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stomach and it's like this right, I don't know. My
dad once said try. I was like, what do you
do about that feeling in the stomach? It's hell? And
he was like, just relax the stomach instead, go try
fallen and loved all he goes, Just relax the stomach
instead of trying to tense up against it. I tried
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that once, literal hell, oh, just let it go. No,
the only thing is to brace the stum. Can't just end.
It still kills like, it's hell. The only the only
satisfaction is at to hold the stomach. It's not scary,
it's pain. That's I guess I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah,
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well I don't. For some reason, I was under the
impression of Zealand didn't have any true coasters there. I
looked and I saw and there was something called something
and I saw a big old, big drop, classic drop.
I don't want to do a big drop. All right, good,
I'm glad to hear that. I don't need it. I
don't need that. I want like fun ice cream. Um,
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I want like Pirates of the Caribbean, animatronic Okay, I want.
I do enjoy something like that's sort of like rattling,
like a bouncing train, whatever that one is. I think
there's one like that. Yeah. I want to be immersed
in theater exactly. Um set design. But I do want
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to talk about roller coaster desks. If we haven't talked
about them an injury on this podcast, and I think
we have. They're real, They happen, and how common are they?
You mean just someone just passes out dead and the
thing you wish or you mean like you mean like
six people are released upside down. Yeah, I'm a little
more like that. Oh fuck, okay, it fucking happens. I
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mean like I'm surprised you have just sign a release
every time you go into an amusement park. I think
you do, probably do when you buy the ticket home
when you pay. Oh yeah, of course. I mean I
think you are, essentially, But shit happens. I mean I
actually did, as a as a gag to myself when
we were planning this trip, I did look up Disney fatalities.
See you know they go by year and the whole
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thing and and some of them. I have to end
this up though, because the rest of it's going to
be used for next week. Okay, we need to sign off.
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Today's topics luicily speaking cyclone A series of measurements, so
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listeners shall be thrilled to know. In fact, here comes
the Jersey sessions. Enjoy the titillation of the repetitions. Etter,
enjoy it, enjoy it. I'm in New Jersey, Okay, I
am not at the law phone. Not is it a
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parking lot? I imagine there's nothing outside? Is it a
parking lot? Is it one of those off a highway?
So I pull up? Has its own glamor, I'll say,
but anyway, we'll get go. Why to reframe it all
for you? Glass doors, open, elevator, Where do I go?
So that was the lobby was empty except for an
The lobby is like hidden up. So then I go
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up and I was like, oh, Then up to the
lobby you go, Hi, checking in, checking in? They go, okay, Dad,
and I'm here for work. So you know, they're like incidentals.
I was like, sure, okay, and then it's like and
I was like, is there room service? She's like, no,
the way you get you get you get that. You
(01:29):
can order food, but you have to come down to
the lobby to get it right. And that's when the
knife goes right through the between the two eyes, Yeah,
into the pinail gland, permanently disfiguring capacity for memory. And
I'm a sport I go, okay, thank you. She's by
like she's coughing all over her hands, handing me his trip,
and they've you've been put up. Yeah, that wast on here. Yeah, yeah,
(01:52):
that's why. So okay, you haven't chosen, like, that's why
you're in this situation essentially. And I go up to
the room. First thing I do look up on Google
Maps where the love low. How far it is from you?
It's twenty seven minutes away. Twenty seven Your job is
in Jersey. It's better. I don't even know where I'm
shooting little life. I know it is it is. I
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believe it's in Jersey. And if I sound ungrateful, I am, Yeah,
who cares, It's fine. I'm so tired. I've yeah, you
know me nine hours a minimum, Yeah, I got. I'm
looking at one night of four hours, one night at
around five or six, and then another night dancing into
the night. Though probably knowing you, Yeah, yeah, I do
(02:37):
to dancing, and so no one feels sorry for you
on that one. Okay, you've been arguing on poog for
six years. Okay, okay about how or sometimes getting no sleep,
But if you're dancing all night, you wake up more
refreshed than ever for one night. For one night, okay,
I think that. But I think you've been prisoner of
multiple nights dancing under the moon. You've been held prisoner
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by a series of invitations you couldn't refuse. I have
to say, last night I saw the moon. It felt
I mean, it was a significant moon to me. But
I had never even seen the moon over there. I've
been living at this place where seven years ago. What
this moon's never been over there in my own home,
and I could have sworn the moon had never been there.
(03:22):
Remember we were talking about your patio and whether or
not you were going to need shade out there. Yeah,
I didn't understand the sun. I was like, well, go
out and see where the sun is on your porch
throughout the day easiest way, really, right, versus like I
faced north whatever shining on me. You're not clearing whether
the sun moves. That was the thing which I found surprising,
(03:44):
that the idea that you weren't aware that, like relative
to your own experience. I'm not talking like I struggle
with that stuff too, okay, And I think it's weird,
not too Frankly, No, I agree because these people, Yeah,
they're like, I mean, are you kid, Like we're not
clear on movement? Yeah? I always remember it by you
(04:05):
know what, where does the sun rise and set? Okay? Yeah? Um.
They used to try to remember via Beauty and the Beast,
like rising in the east. But then I was like,
where's it west? Yeah? The cowboy rides west and sunset
doesn't he sure fucking does. He rides into the sunset,
and he's obviously headed west right west. Yeah. Although, yeah,
all right, so this is what I'm talking about. To
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have an advanced degree, do not know where the sun is?
Is like exactly the contemporary to see your advanced degree.
It was a goddamn Galatin and cross. I was disciplined,
you know, so no surprise there. Yeah, I was studying
the fragment in its relationship to liminality. So how could
I possibly know where the hell the moon is? Yes?
On a good night? Oh my god? Sorry, go on?
(04:49):
What was I saying? Oh? Yeah, so what am I saying?
Tired and plaining about a glorious But I will say
I was jet bluement, honey, and you know, be on
the plane and it was funny. Uh, it's not funny,
gonna it's funny. I it's the same menu for my
previous man experience, fucking bowl between the eyes. Well, and
I will say that I was shocked. I don't know.
(05:09):
I kind of like thought every menu was like fresh
as fun. I know when they repeat what is it monthly?
I guess I don't know, but I don't know. I
was like I've rooted it twice. I was whatever, you know, emotional.
I was really swept up in the new Launa del ray.
It's my it's my first real Luna plunge. And I
when I tell you, yeah, I listened to kind of
the album for like five hours. What was under five hours?
(05:31):
It was like four hours and something. I skipped around
to some other tracks. Of course, I'm not a lunatic.
But I'm in an altered state, so you could ask
me anything and I would. All I'll say is no,
this is about me physically, which is your energy? Is
so whatever? Right now that I'm slipping into something in
(05:55):
response as hell you want me to go up? No,
I just felt myself like, no one's jealous or no,
no one's sad for you, Kate, like I slipped into it,
like it was funny and Jeremy Maguire energy it. But
I no, just how dare you wait? What are you
gonna sing? There's a tunnel sham bah okay, great? Um.
(06:21):
So I took a cold ice plunge bath two nights
in a row. Wait, talk me through it? Okay are
you ready? Well? Why talk you through it? When I
have audio? Okay, let's see here. I just had to
record myself. One. Hey, I fall silent and I'm breathing.
(06:45):
Now there's no the second amen, I cannot speak. This
was gonna be a live recording. Wait, so it's true ice.
So I dumped three trays of ice into just a
cold bathtub. Okay, now yeah, I know that's not that cold.
That good? Okay, I get in I'm like, oh no, okay,
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like you know, the immediately regret. It's like you're like,
it's mine and I'm gonna do it, and then you
go and and it wasn't like when you and we
have gotten into the cold plunges, which you're immediately up
to your neck and you're just fucking in. This is like,
because it's a bathtub, you kind of have to make
it work to get under. And so it's sort of
like I was almost in a pike position, you know,
like leaning down like that, and then my shoulders were
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still naked, and so the waters gently lapping at the
border of where it's covering me and not and like
getting me and and I couldn't speak. I immediately went
into like this like oh okay, it's intense. Breathing was
instantly brought on, and then pretty quickly it was like, fine,
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it's weird. Really, I mean the part I was under
and then last night I did it again is well,
I was like leaned down as a mergery. I mean,
I'm in a pike position, so I'm leaning down, so
you're trying to hike you throw hike position. I guess
it's an old gymnastics term. Okay, just legs straight in
front of you like you're doing a ham like you're
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doing a seated forward bend stretch. All I'm struck with
is the fact there's no baths over this hotel room
which I ran. When I ran and immediately peered in
nothing one of these. Okay, but okay, got it. You
see she's holding her toes with her legs spread out,
I mean, sorry, legs straight forward and reaching like you're
doing a forward seated stretch. So I'm bent down, so
you know, I'm mostly in Okay, So I do my
(08:34):
tracy workout, and I do it with heat and humidity
in the room, as you know, and then I'm so
I'm cranked up, and then I prepare the bath like
or a few minutes before I go back in front
of my inferred space here to get really hot. And
then I go in. And last night I did it again.
I put on Whitney Houston. I was just looking for
a song like that was around like three minutes, because
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I want to be in there for three minutes. As
I put on I Will Always Love You. Why weird
you bring it up? Because I had a friend be like,
you have to watch The Bodyguard. I've never seen it,
you know, I don't think I've seen it either, and
she reenacted a scene. I thought it was like, it's
like the hottest thing I've ever heard. Something about a
sword and a scarf. Wow, yeah, wait, what's happening with
a sword? I'm gonna see it. But something about she's
(09:16):
playing with his sword, that she has his apartment and
she's waving it around and this is hot. He takes
the sword and hold it to his chest, and then
from what I'm told, there's a scarf around her neck
or something. He takes the scarf. He throws it up
in the air, and the scarf starts to drift down
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and the blade slices it. The blade is so sharp,
the scarf is sliced. This was reenacted for me. That's
a phallic knife splitting the red woman. Yeah, yeah, into
I mean that right, Oh yeah, interesting. And I mean
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some ways it sounds hot. It was like nothing like
in some ways it sounds it's actually nothing. It sounds
like a magician and a Nightmary, you know exactly. This
is the thing about about memory. Um it was I'm
caught up in my friend reenacting it for me unexpectedly,
in the intensity in her eyes. Oh my god, yeah,
she grabbed. It was so real. I was exhausted. It
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was one I am. It's completely enraptured the friend. No, right,
the friends, the friend being enraptured by the memory enough
to communicate it to you, right, yes, yes, that's where
the seduction that worked on, the eroticization via the the
channel of the friend's enthusiasm. You know, there's nothing like
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a friend's enthusiasm to make you do anything. Um. By
the way, I packed in such a psychotic state that
I only brought one pair of shoes. Yeah, shoes take
up too much room. That's a first. I would say
one brought one more one. I brought one pair period.
Just want to be clear you, I did not pack
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a single shoe. I wore my shoe and I have
one shoe for the whole trap brought. Okay, good girl.
I'm like, I don't want to crowd breast. Now, what
what's the shoe? Because we're looking at You're working so exactly,
we're working, not going to be out. I didn't even
I went, I went, I'll bring some messcare, I'll bring somebody.
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I didn't even bring up whoa guys today, I not
bring a lipstick. That's unheard of. Wow, it's gotta be
a lipstick in there. But this is a I have
a DM is what the brand is like a kind
of a hiking sneaker. They're incredibly comfortable. Uh yeah, so
why I pulled something up? Um some of my interests
(11:50):
screen grabs something for you. Let's see. Um. Oh you
know we need we need to get into I've heard
peptides were I can't believe you're talking about peptides. Because
Josh Rosebrook was talking who I met was it absolutely
met him spontaneously at Credo Beauty Magician. Yeah, I was
talking about it was unbelievable to meet him. M beautiful products,
(12:13):
beautiful beautiful line. Incredible to hear his story. It was
like creating products when he's like a teenager dying to
try his products. I won't lie. Absolutely get well, yeah,
he's got to get them to you. But he makes peptides,
and he said he was likely listen, I don't do
great other brands, but there's a reason peptides are expensive. Yeah,
He's like, sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
If someone's selling you peptide cream and its thirty bucks,
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it's just not the real peptides. This is huge because
I'm talking about injectibles that you inject into your stomach.
Oh see, I was talking about talking about not for skin. Wow, Okay,
but I still think there's there's a good I don't
know what they're talking about. Yeah, So it's like one
of these things I see on the menus at like
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that place that I got them, the IV, the hydra,
the nadya, and it's like this other level under like
medical services, like what and then they say you can
also order them your home and stab yourself from the
lower abdomen with them, and you know, I know nothing,
and I'm sort of exhausted by the prospect of another thing.
Of course the whole time, if it's keeping up with
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anything that is supplementation is very hard. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
so I'm not I'm not even sure where to begin there.
And I think they're not cheap, can't imagine they are.
And then the problem is, you know, of course if
they work, now you're on the hook, right, So it's
like that's the problem with buying something. Well, peptides are
(13:42):
I mean, it's it's like there's different ones and the
body produces them naturally. But like I think human growth hormone,
like is a peptide or something. I don't know. I
know nothing, but I've seen benefits promised and the other
thing I fucking want, and I send it to you,
and it is so it looks it looks like an
eighties informercial. And yet I guess who's buying into the
(14:03):
pure reviewed science the bionic gym. I think I sent
you a clip you did, didn't straight up panels on
the legs that are activating fast twitch muscles. Okay, the
legs are dancing. Of course, I've seen okay, plug their
ass into all right, but no, but this is supposed
to be more than that. This isn't the laying on
(14:25):
the doctor's table and it's the tens or whatever. This
is something else. This You are sweating your fucking face off,
and there's cardiovascular so people are sweating, their heart rate
goes up. Wow, so apparently it's a full workout while
you watch TVA. This guy at his office or whatever, okay,
(14:48):
in his desk yet just like shaking from below. And
I reached out, not truly and said hey, and I
decided there was no time to gauge your interest and whatever,
and so I just decided to include you and said,
you know, we would love to try this. You know,
we traw all sorts of things, and I love the
(15:13):
promise of spring no of of of muscular stimulation that
will burn six hundred and an hour. You know, But
now will that replace anything? Noah, okay, but it'll be
a nice bonus. I was thinking I could strap them
(15:35):
on if I'm gonna lay in the higher dose. You freak,
why not also strap You're okay? And then how many
devices kind of get going? By the way, By the way,
huge news. I don't know if you've opened, but I'm
so excited. Dennis Gross new doctor Dennis spectral light. Okay,
I have to say something improved. Yeah, so I he
(15:55):
sent us the spectral mask, the led, the blue light
that ice where to God? And red light? Yeah yeah,
I'm sorry, and red light. I don't even think this
might not even be it, but I sort of got
I do it, like two days in a row. I
felt a difference. Fox. Yeah, look that well, I believe.
So this so the new spectru light fullhead. Okay, but
the new spectrum light, it's not an AD to be there? Yeah, yeah,
(16:20):
we will wait. So it's bigger, it covers more around
the eye area. It's just for the eye area. This
one is just for the eye area, though you could
move it around your entire body three minutes at a
time if you wanted to, because that's the thing as
three minutes, Why not too six? Right? Like, talk to
me about that, I think because three minutes has an effect,
(16:41):
and you're selling people on how quickly can be done,
But why not pop in for six? I think you
can keep it on. I mean, I think you can,
but I believe the new one has more LEDs and
I think it might even penetrate deeper. But I have
to check on that. I I don't have it in
front of me. Although, um, so I've been so I've
been blasting myself with our light path led brand light
(17:06):
at the end of my workouts. Yeah, I've been sitting
there in the nude getting blasted. Great, I gotta get
when I get back. You gotta get that. Yeah, it's
um the combo of red light and infred But I've
got all the spectrums going because I've got the heat
producing infrared that's heating up my body from the inside
(17:26):
out versus cooking you from that outside end. Like the
average heater. Then we've got the infrared and the and
the red LED two different spectrums. So that's now we
got three going. I'm just looking to see if the
spectrulate information has launched here it is get ready for
next generation our new spectrum late ninety six red LEDs
and four wave links. That's thirty percent more than before. Yeah,
(17:50):
you know, I love and to be clear, not an ad,
but you know I love when a brand isn't afraid
to improve their product. Okay, of course, I mean I
know new improved as an old, you know, bullshit thing. Yeah,
but in this day in hande, I feel it still
takes courage to go. You know, we're going back to
the drawing board on this one. Yeah, forgive me for um.
(18:12):
I'm like clearly, I'm like, you gotta drive. I'm so um,
I'll drive you pull together. I screen grabbed something else
for us. Let me just see what it is. Open me,
uh damn me? You like it? Fuck me to del
(18:33):
Remember how hard we laughed the other day? Oh my god,
that felt really. I listened to have sent it because
I had sort of forgotten, and then I listened to it.
The joy brought the joy not believe it. And I
was talking to you today about the power of when
you laugh so hard or when someone really makes you
laugh like that. It's rare in life. There's about three
(18:56):
people that can do that. To me. It really is. Yeah,
pure your four Yeah, oh god, yeah, it really is.
When it takes over. Well, you know, Nietzsche said, what
tell me now, oh, just like at the height of
wisdom is laughter. And here I go, oh, I'm trying
(19:32):
the Zozo suit. I'm so ill. Um the Zozo suit
is the thing I got sent. You had no interest.
You were like, do you want a Zozo suit? I
was like, no, yes, and so it Well, what's funny
is that it started as um a way to get
like perfect measurements for like the idea. It started almost
(19:54):
like it was like you're not a size, you're not
a number, Like you're a serious I've never okay, but
you know, like like but they're like they're like it
was almost for you know, this idea of a universalized
thing where you go, no, I'm not a I'm not
a six, I'm a you go girl, okay, Like it's
(20:19):
like no, I'm thirty two. You know, here and this
and that whatever and so it's a suit you pull
on like a shirt and it looks like much like
um long John's. Okay, So it's a tight ish fitting thing.
It's covered in these little circles and these these other
things that then you um stand in front of your
(20:41):
phone and you turn in a slow circle. They go
turn to three o'clock, turned to four o'clock. Scan complete,
and then this graphic image of like, you know, you
as a sort of whatever figure pops up and I
was like, yeah, that is my body anyway. So it
(21:02):
started this thing like you're gonna have these really precise
measurements that you can like send. I think they thought
maybe it was going to become standard. Everyone has Zozo
suit at home and then everyone's custom sized you know clothes.
Then of course it was immediately it was immediately swept
up by the fitness nuts who were like, all gained
(21:22):
afternoon my bicep. Yeah, and they love it because you know, measuring, measuring,
measuring is constant in that community. So then so then
it branded a quarterly Yeah well yeah, I mean it's
yeah and the women of Beverly Hills where yeah right
uh and me yeah, okay, because I love data and
(21:44):
so in I go and I don't know. I just
love when the data feels. I don't know, it's fun
to see this weird model of my own body and go,
that's me stripped of all personality to finally be. And
I was like, there's also a remember in Madman, like
(22:06):
take a paper bag and put it over your head.
We've talked abou right, analyze your strength and weakness, you know,
And I don't know, it's kind of a thrill. It's
kind of a thrill. Will see myself made of lines.
WHOA she's showing she's yeah, yeah, Um, I'm working with
(22:27):
bands now right, I don't know, really no, no, I
was thinking, no, no, we can here's what we can do. Um,
I've been thinking shit all week to talk about I
really need to get my shit together with like writing
it down. I guess I have written some stuff down.
I was, um uh, I got nothing, no way around it.
(22:52):
I am going to after this, I'm going to hopefully
sleep for twelve hours. I was sitting around Okay, last
night I had a dream that I had a coffee
machine that you had handed off to me, and I had,
therefore a means of steaming milk. Okay, I had to stream,
and then I woke up, going, I have no means
of stealing steaming milk. And then I thought to myself,
(23:15):
what was Kate talking about the other day? And she said,
you know then espresso steamer, and I was like, sounds
familiar with it, Like why do I don't I feel
like I had one of those. I couldn't. And then
I went to the cabinet and it was there. I
reached under and it was deep, and I pulled out
I can't live without it. And then I pulled out
I was going to use cream, and then I pulled
(23:37):
it out and it expired. It was unopened and expired,
which is always an honor to have to deposit into
the trash directly, both a disposable container and union used
gorgeous cream. Disgusting um, Like, what's wrong here? I know
(24:02):
what's wrong with you? Where there's a there's a layer
in which we're not the sun. I know what's wrong
with me. I'm severe hardness. Yeah, I'm a bit compromised
by a headache, by the fact I can't sleep with
a pillow apparently, or wake up in pain. I think
I'm gonna have to go back to no pillow and
a fucking wash that slept without a pillow. I couldn't
(24:22):
believe this girl. No, it's what. Yeah, and by the way,
it started just because she like didn't get one and
then just it never took. Well, if you sleep on
your back, I think a lot of pillows fuck you,
because then you're like you got on the back. It's
like you're lying in your back and your head is
in the same position it was all day when you
were hunched over your device desk. Yeah, and uh, I
(24:47):
dropped my phone and then I think toilet twice. Um,
I had to pluck it out a while the toilet
was flushing recently. Yeah, piss only Hell yeah, it's like
reached in and and it's back in use. That's all,
you know, Like it didn't visit didn't visit a government
(25:11):
sanitization place. You know, I did my best, of course,
but I actually the government sanitation chambers, they you know,
if they offered them this at home. Yeah. Yeah, Well
here's a question, Uh, what do we think about a
machine that you know, a no scrub scrubber for the bathtub,
(25:33):
because I want to get my bath in good shape
right now if I'm going to be doing these cold plunges,
but the usual harsh chemicals that I'm interested in using
for a bathtub. Yeah, then you're soaking. Then you're soaking
in them. So is there is it industrial? I have
this in my cart today that I'm or is it industrial?
Thirty percent concentrated white vinegar combined with baking soda. Throw
(25:56):
it in there, a little bit of dish. So there's
one question though, talk to you about the smell of vinegar. Yeah,
well you know that, you know the claim always what
what the claim with the vinegar cleaning is that the
scent of vinegar just dissipates, not immediately, I'll say that much. Yeah,
I mind it. I've smelled it. I've smelled it before
(26:17):
and I'm like, well, that smells like vinegar. But I
guess it's because it was just used in theory. But
I like the idea of it working. I like the
idea of the tub in baking soda right then spritzing.
That's the that's the that's like the healthy or the
you know, green version of ajax. Really and it works,
(26:41):
it works. Wait, bond bond, I think that's what's called. Yeah,
you checked. I'm looking right now at it. At the product.
How quick did you move? You've only seem to go
one know, I'm typing in right now. You're sure it's
not bona bona shit? Because I say something because I
(27:01):
saw something when I was when I was looking at today. Wait,
you've got it. Wait what's it called? Because there is
a thing called because I was looking today, Like essentially,
do I do I start up with swiffer again? You know, like,
oh I think I'm above it, am I? Because what
the fuck is good? The best mop is the one
you use? You know that that concept yea of photography.
(27:23):
Best camera is the one you have in your pop?
What's the cleaner called bona b Wait? Hold on, there's
something that was like yeah, oh okay, okay, okay, it's
called it's called works folks, bonbon bonbon folks. It works, Okay,
it's called bona me. I don't think, but bon bond
(27:45):
is way cuter. And then there is also bonam mop.
I'm just looking next swiffer. It looks humongous, which you
know I'm interested in. I mean, let's see her open me. Yeah,
tell me you like it? Fuck me to death? Um,
(28:07):
this is this is not good. Let me tell you that. Yeah,
I almost go rerun. I mean i'd literally almost go rerun.
I know we could call this episode skip this episode.
We've done that before. We didn't know. Please don't say
that we haven't. We've We've pitched it, and I've said, like, folks,
this one is a skipper. I think. I think that's
(28:29):
only the real die hards. I'll listen to this shit
and we're back. That is the Sessions, the Jersey Sessions.
(28:53):
I didn't listen to all of it. I won't lie
me neither, But I you didn't listen to all of it,
or any I didn't listen to any I'll admit I
listen to some. I can't lie to you. I've tried
to lie, and I just I won't have I'm not able,
and sometimes maybe I should learn. Okay, But as I
listened to I thought to myself, some might go, what
(29:15):
about this one? Did they think wasn't terrible? Right? This
is pure gold? Or this is no worse than anything else?
I of course I know. Anyway, Well, welcome to this week.
I'm having Can you hear my voice that I'm a
little diminished, sad or something? Sure, I'm fine, No, but
(29:37):
I'm just a little here, I fucking go, let's hear it. Well,
yesterday it was a full moon. I just mean like
I am maternally self conscious about being someone who references astrology. Um, yeah,
you have to let go. It's it's here the patriarchal
voice I was raised with, which was um and you know,
watching Husbands and Wives the thirteen year old room, which
would he I wrote about a churcher who's you know,
(29:59):
basically revealed to be a complete fucking fool um for
being a California yoga instructor into astrology. And it's dragged
out of the dinner party by her hair for being
an idiot. Um right, I'm not gonna go into that further.
But um, I have come to learn that my aries moon,
as you, no full moon, full moon, what fucking ever
(30:22):
it was? It was full yesterday, full moon and libra.
And that's your aria all about the wounded Healer. Well,
now you've piqued my interests. Okay, Well you know what,
you know what I could talk about that archetype wounded
Healer's dan all that also, Joel, why the hell is
the wounded Healer president? You, let's hear it. I don't
know it's not always comes to mind first when I
think of caper Land. No, absolutely not. How about this? Apparently,
(30:46):
this full moon's also about that which is unconscious, but
that which we know to be true. Wait, isn't that
a paradox in a certain sense? Oh, that which we
that which is uncon which is unconscious, but we know
to be true, the unconscious true. Right of course it doesn't. Dare. Please,
(31:08):
don't anyone confuse me for someone who's uncomfortable with paradox. Okay, no, no,
I'm trying to meaning, no, it's unwise what I said?
What was it coming from an app and had they
said those words? And I think so, I'm kind of
paraphrasing unconscious. Is it something like something that had become like?
(31:29):
Is it a linear? Is it a story something that
was unconscious that now is known? Is it that which
was once known? Wait, by the way, was the moon
in a new position near your home? Something that was
covered on the contents? Actually? Last well, last night, this
I'll never understand. Last night, I was sitting outside at
a bar. I look over, I scream, Wow, so bright
(31:51):
full moon peering through the trees. I turn to the people.
I'm having a drink with talk talk talk. I turned
back maybe three minutes later. The moon's in the moon shifted,
it's higher. Wait it moves that quickly? What maybe you
were We talked about this during the contents, but um
of the episodated listening, but slightly different. That's why I
(32:12):
referenced it, but slightly different issue. But okay, I can't
believe I'm the same. How many minutes every day were
you talking? Couldn't have been more than six six? I
think there are well I think about it this way quickly.
Is that moon moving well here, I don't know, but
here's the I mean, I don't even know at all moves.
But you think about a sunset, right, think about watching
(32:34):
a sunset? Goddamn fast that ship moves god damn fast. Now, yeah,
those relative speeds in relation to you know, I don't know.
But the point is there's a moment when it's when
you can see it when you can't. And in that moment,
I refuse to believe we aren't ruled by the planets. Okay, Um,
I'm going to break through because I have good news
(32:56):
for you. What's that or going to Disneyland? I know,
I know we are no so we have a date
the listeners we have Jacqueline and I with two friends
are going to Disneyland and Jacqueline so I have essentially
never been. I went as a child. I at Disneyland
(33:16):
as a child for a friend's birthday party. I believe
I've talked about this on who lied to my friend's
mother about having diabetes because I'd seen it in the
Baby Serious Club movie Stacy. Yeah, I was like my
diabete in the books. But I'm sure the mother stopped
and was like you you're diabetic god? And I was like,
oh no, no, like she thought my mother had sent
me to Disneyland, not telling right, supervising adult. And then
you were like, no, I have diabetic tendencies. No, I
(33:40):
just want to truro now. I Oh, you were trying
to get a snack. No, I don't know what it was.
One time my cousin and I were at Playland where
I Playland with my dad and my cousin Rachel, and
she she was so thirsty, but she couldn't bring herself
to ask my dad to get a drink. It went
so far as him offering like, does anyone want anything?
(34:01):
I'm gonna get a soda and her being like, no, thanks,
She couldn't say that's so. By the way, this is
so because the childhood thing of being at the friend's
house after school and you're starving, You're fucking starving, gone on,
but it's not your parents, so you can't be like,
get me a goddamn snack. You just have to suffer
nothing scarier. Essentially, why I don't socialize. Yeah, it's acknowl
(34:23):
Because the hunger. Yeah, the fear of hunger and then
having to put on a put on a massive show,
a full scale musical. Should I decide to break through?
And I actually I don't know if I really deal
with this anymore. But um but wait, I have, in
the literal sense, never been to Disneyland. Wait what, well,
(34:46):
it's here in California. I didn't grow up in California,
this one. I've lived in California for a couple of years.
So no. I went to Disney World when I was
like three, Okay, so you're in. When I was twelve,
you went and it was fucking phenomenal. I remember a
major sort of episode around Splash Mountain and can we
(35:07):
get out of line? Because I'm just too afraid of
the big drop. It was like, can I get a
lot might be under renovation. I know, I saw that
you've been doing some research, which is no ears. I
want sparkly ears. Um, what do you mean mouse ears? Well,
I definitely that's a big part of the culture, is
wearing the ears. Really. Yeah, it's almost strange to not
(35:30):
wear them there. Well, there's a question of what one
wears two it's really hard. I think, I know because
I'm gonna wear jeans. Yeah, I mean I do think
it is. I mean anything else? What else could you wear?
Wear a leisure as you know, I mean you have
worn it? I have, of course. Okay, No, I think
(35:52):
it's jeans. But if you wear if you wear a
healed shoe or something, no bullshit like that. Come on,
you know, for sensuality, because like I want to be
turned on still at Disneyland. Okay, you never know who
I might meet in line? Well, exactly, that's also gone.
Anything I am I'll be wearing. I can see the
(36:15):
sneaker in my eye. Did I tell you that I
had to return a sneaker twice because of the shoe size?
I said, sure? Did baby in the guard you haven't.
I was trying to. But first of all, I want
to be very clear, I am a massive repeater. It
generates to a point of yeah, like I feel like
I can talk six minutes straight, same sentence. Repetition. I
(36:37):
love repetition of music. I like repetition. I enjoy repetition.
I enjoy fortunate on others. But does Disneyland. I just
think that's gonna be fun. That's all I have to say.
I'm wondering about You got to think about what, Well,
this is a huge topic for me. We're going to
really get into it. Sunscreen. Well, what kind of purse?
(37:01):
You do not want to be a fool fuck with it?
When you're getting on a serious ride with a bunch
of bullshit. You also don't. So no, it goes You're
not gonna have something on one shoulder hauling your ass around.
There's one answer, and one answer only. Fanny pack. Yep,
and it doesn't It's not just for the moms and
the granddads. I have a Patagonia fanny pack that I
(37:21):
will bore. Yeah, I think it is a fanny pack,
and our SPF will be in there. Wonderful, get high,
I won't. I want to pure. I actually haven't been
high months. I'm not like I haven't been. It's not
like I don't know yet. I mean marijandering me, Yeah,
I just haven't. I haven't consumed TC. Honestly, I gotta
(37:43):
say I think it's been. I could actually do it
the math. Why not just do it here? I am
like eight months, I haven't I haven't had had THHC since.
Remember when I went off the gummies, the restless leg gummies.
I was going to sleep? Yeah, yeah, and then I
think I might get back into it. Yeah, I just
truly because I can't work, I can't perform and be
ingesting THHC. And I've been I used, I was working
(38:05):
for so long, but I just naturally couldn't be high.
But now I'm unemployed again. I don't know why you
need to get back into it. I don't know why
you'd want like actively try to like add it to
the like, hey, like, why don't we ask just for fun?
I was like, no, it could be fun tonight having
a night in alone. Sure, I was thinking I could
maybe take a couple of hits of a Drew Martin
(38:27):
low dose joint rithe in my bathtub, read some and
Carson and cry a little. Yeah, I don't. I've never
really enjoyed the marijuana high. It's interesting, like there are
times where it was like okay, well yeah something anything,
you know, like where I'm like, I want to have experiences. Sure,
(38:48):
I don't know, I don't know. Wait but wait, but
I wanted to go back. I've had a good time.
I want to talk about I want to talk about
part more. Okay, So, so one you will be in
a proper shoe. I will not be slowed by a lie.
I had to hit off a joint last week. Okay,
keep going? What who cares? Do you remember or did
you remember earlier when you were trying to do the
math on how many months did it? Just now? Okay,
(39:12):
oh so you located you know, truth not a lie.
And I'd say I took a hit in Jamaica too.
Didn't get high though. Okay, you know what I'm trying
to say. Basically, I haven't touched the stuff in a while. Okay,
keep going, keep going. Shoes. So yeah, there will be
no accommodating, like you know whatever, anything that you do
(39:33):
for style, slowing us down Disney will not be acceptable. Okay,
if you show up with anything that could slow us down. Okay, listen,
I'm gonna Fannie pack good now. Now the next question,
how do you feel about roller coaster deaths? Because they're real?
(39:54):
I have no interest in a serious roller coaster. There
aren't real roller coasters, aren't They all like for babies,
But roller coaster deaths dying on a coaster, yeah, well
I don't. We're not gonna. They don't have brain rattlers
at Disneyland. They have something I saw. I was looking
going because I was like, so as a kid, you know,
I faced the fear of the roller coasters and kind
(40:16):
of enjoyed it in a classic sense and might be
like observational humor. And at the age of eight, was
that like the loop de loops, like, actually aren't scary
part like because those were like, oh, that's the scariest
one here. It's got a loop de loop. You go
upside Dad, never gone upside down in a roller coaster.
The upside down is nothing. It feels like you're just like, ah,
it's like nothing. It doesn't feel like anything, you know,
(40:38):
it remains the most heinous thing ever. Drop drop, the drop,
a drop drop the drop is hearing it there is
I mean let's can we talk about the drop for
a few minutes. We talk about tea durings the top
of the coaster. The last time I was at the drop.
So I wrote the cyclone quite a few times at
Coney Island, yes, many many years ago. And that thing
is that will fucking rock you. That's whiplash. It's barely
(41:01):
held together. Wait, I know it's genius. Um, Joey Gay
had a joke, was genius about I believe about Wait
what was it called? What is it? The cyclo cyclone
of Coney Island about like going and being like going
and being like waiting in line of the cyclone, the
whole thing, and being like, this is my one hundredth
(41:22):
ride on the cyclone, like I've done it, I'm doing it.
This is my one hundred ride, you know, like getting
people really excited that he's done this many times. And
they gets on and they start going up, up, up up,
and he goes, oh, what's that noise? It's genius. That's good.
I love it. And then I remember I said some food,
(41:43):
but ride Planeland, going up, going up a roller coaster
with my dad, like going and like this is you
know when you like make a joke as a child,
and it's not that well received. So I was I
was like making a joke. Like the joke I was
making was to yell out, um, you know, I was
scared going up the ride, so the joke I was
like to yell at like, let me off the ride.
(42:05):
This is child abuse, okay, But I kep yelling this
is child abuse. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah again. My dad
was like, you know, like don't yell at like yeah, yeah,
And you get to the top okay, and you go
down and it hits oh fuck, the tension in the
(42:25):
stomach and it's like this right, I don't know. My
dad once said try. I was like, what do you
do about that feeling in the stomach? It's hell? And
he was like, just relax the stomach instead, go try
fallen and loved all he goes, Just relax the stomach
instead of trying to tense up against it. I tried
(42:47):
that once, literal hell, oh, just let it go. No,
the only thing is to brace the stum. Can't just end.
It still kills like, it's hell. The only the only
satisfaction is at to hold the stomach. It's not scary,
it's pain. That's I guess I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah,
(43:10):
well I don't. For some reason, I was under the
impression of Zealand didn't have any true coasters there. I
looked and I saw and there was something called something
and I saw a big old, big drop, classic drop.
I don't want to do a big drop. All right, good,
I'm glad to hear that. I don't need it. I
don't need that. I want like fun ice cream. Um,
(43:32):
I want like Pirates of the Caribbean, animatronic Okay, I want.
I do enjoy something like that's sort of like rattling,
like a bouncing train, whatever that one is. I think
there's one like that. Yeah. I want to be immersed
in theater exactly. Um set design. But I do want
(43:53):
to talk about roller coaster desks. If we haven't talked
about them an injury on this podcast, and I think
we have. They're real, They happen, and how common are they?
You mean just someone just passes out dead and the
thing you wish or you mean like you mean like
six people are released upside down. Yeah, I'm a little
more like that. Oh fuck, okay, it fucking happens. I
(44:15):
mean like I'm surprised you have just sign a release
every time you go into an amusement park. I think
you do, probably do when you buy the ticket home
when you pay. Oh yeah, of course. I mean I
think you are, essentially, But shit happens. I mean I
actually did, as a as a gag to myself when
we were planning this trip, I did look up Disney fatalities.
See you know they go by year and the whole
(44:36):
thing and and some of them. I have to end
this up though, because the rest of it's going to
be used for next week. Okay, we need to sign off.
Okay to be continued. That was poog. If you enjoyed Poog,
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