October 1, 2024 • 56 mins
$25 for a new life, and the need to be nudged. Should we not be driving from dead centre? Tradwife sippy cup fertility mug. The fear of looking like a pile of lymph leads Jacqueline to thrilling appointments with specialists, and then on a designer men’s shoe chase. An IV drip and a B12 shot in the ass—ring me up! Dreams of a backyard sauna…but will Kate draw the line at cold plunge? Blue eyeshadow for dancing, Black Honey from mother. The poison is the dose, and a decision with a countdown is Jacqueline’s worst nightmare. Energetic exchange when they come for you. Suit by Amazon, shoes by OfferUp, and a life devoted to returns. What you really need is the drum pad and two sticks.
Mentioned: Yerba Mate, Backcountry, Joanna Czech, Kosha Spa, Environ, Ricari studios, Pause, Renew Sauna, Plunge Magic, Credo Beauty, ILIA, Celsius, Ferragamo, The Row
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is Poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two
obsessive freds.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is poog. Today's topics looselie speaking, velvet slipper, black, honey.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Home sona.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By the way, we're back, We're back, We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And by the way, I went live from the Emmys. Okay,
that was a gift. I went live with the Hags
from the Red Carpetlah. I will say, should that ever
happen again a rerun situation, we would just I was
thinking about, we just go live on Instagram together.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We just do live for however long we can manage.
You mean, as a as an apology for.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Essentially as a replacement. Yeah, like they get twenty minutes live.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
By the way, I mean, everything's fine. I can only
imagine when people worried. You know, everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, well, it's also important people don't realize
that technically Poog is seasonal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There are seasons. This is like a TV show.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's interesting and ultimately they're going to have to realize that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Next season is not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I love when you threaten the end. It's important because
this isn't no, no, nothing's guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's an odd thing for particularly, I mean like talk
about not just scarcity, but like as an artist, you know,
if it's just guaranteed, like I don't know, like like yeah,
I know, we talk about it like it's just life.
But I love to just threatening how could end at
any time?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I do let to threaten it, but it literally could sell.
Congrats on what you get, and just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So everyone knows. I think this does add an element
of suspense. I do get text from Jack cons sometimes
when she says we're quitting or she's like you've been
like you're like a couple.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Of times it's been like like let's end it, like
it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We end it, like you know, it can it can
still exist like another forms like you know, okay, maybe
we tour you know a year, yeah yeah, yeah, or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, it's not I need everyone to know it's not
going anywhere and we're going to be bigger and better
and brighter.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well no, but that's what I'm trying to say is
that I think ultimately we need to be able to
promise seasonally, okay, because then at the end of the season,
whatever that is for us, it's like opec, we can
decide if it's continuing. I just think to go like
for the next ten years every Tuesday, this is coming out, like,
(02:35):
I think it'll lead to issues. I think we also
want to be able to have a spirit of the
season where we go like here we go season whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Of course, of course, and they'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Like remember season four, you know or whatever. Several ideas
floating around at the point is nothing's guaranteed in this life.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
All may pass.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Away, and that's the fucking truth. But I'll tell you
one thing that is guaranteed in this life. You're bemte Listen.
Imagine me at the grocery store the day before yesterday, ravenous,
freaking out, grabbing snacks, eating them, going I need coffee
midday slump. I stroll past the Yurba mante this is
(03:14):
the jarred what's this brand? Yeah, it's bottled. Is it
Yurba or is it actually RBA? I don't fucking know.
I don't know about tea, Okay, but here's the point.
Unsweetened traditional this will get your rocks off. There's nothing else.
It's just good. I was excited.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Also, it was like three dollars versus what my eight
dollar macha.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You know, I wonder if that was the brand that
had the tie in with somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It was like sugar.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Probably they do energy drinks, but then the energy drinks.
Sorry not to be toxic, but we're talking about twenty
grams of sugar. You know, there's no sugar in this,
There's no this is just black.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
This is just tea.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, and the flavor you because like you know, when
you try to you're not saying. You're not saying this
is instead of coffee in your life. No, no, no, no,
I'm just saying, but unexpected. My beverage world is quite limited.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You know. It's like water, coffee, saltzer.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You just go time for some water. Now in the day,
how do you how do you remember to drink fertility
struggle or my my, oh when you're swallowing a pill,
No my yeah, my fertility jug just flew out. But
my my, my sippy cup. Oh your fertility mug.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, I call it fertility mug because I got that
water bottle when I was freezing my eggs because it
was like, you need to be drinking two liters of
water a day.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And I was like, fuck this.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I see these women, the trad wife, the tidwife, sippy cup. Yeah,
I see these women out here with this, and I
go join the ranks of them. Yeah, and that thing
is at my.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Side, tradwife, sippy cup, fertility mug.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it's at my side all day, every day.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, but listen. Yeah, and I got one too. It
freed me to get one. I got one way, you
got one? Well, I went to Backcountry at the Grove
you know store. I'm horrified to say, I don't sort
of like Moderne Ri. I kind of vibe you different
brands from there. Yeah, it is incredible, and I won't lie.
(05:11):
I was recognized on the way into the store and
someone working there hag huge.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It was un believable.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The hags are infiltrating all areas when they speak out.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Changing the day. Yeah, it really does give a give
a boost.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But that Country, Oh, I went in there and then
I was like, yeah, I want one because I drive
now and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wait, stop stop everything you're driving.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I've finally just like gotten the hag. When did you start, Like,
I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, maybe, I
mean mostly it's just like so I can go to Tracy,
you know, like in the morning without so you're driving yourself. Yeah,
And I said, how does it feel great?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Were you scared the first few times? No, it was
just like you driving is something. It's making me laugh,
something about you behind the wheels.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, the joke is like me. The joke is like,
I've driven all over this country. I grew up in
the suburbs drive. So it's just that we got in
this habit of like me not driving in Los Angeles,
and then it just felt like I was today the day,
like right, I don't know, it just sort of got
in this habit and then I love it. It's fun
(06:27):
and I've always experienced a mood lift in the car.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The car is a huge choice, like even like.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Real depression, if you just get on the road, you
get your ass on the road, like driving like drive, drive, drive,
the music.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Going, Oh yeah, it's it's huge.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Driving is so interesting because you're at either side, like
the Brits, you know, over on the right side or
the left side. I think it's weird. It's weird to
operate something not from the dead center. Think about that,
you know what I mean? Yeah, doesn't seem like the
driver's seats should be Oh no, look I did it
doing the thing like this is my microphone.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh she's holding the let my mic was this it
operating out from the center.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh yeah, it doesn't seem like it should be from
the center, and that like in that side you would
just be totally slamming into things so natural.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Completely it is crazy. It's weird in the center. And
then guess what you can fit a person on each side?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, I have a lot of ideas for uh oh god.
It reminds me and someone I think reached out. But
I really need like a technical drawing type person and
for my patents, because I have some products that are
not even nothing even splashy about them. They're just the
kind of thing where like no one noticed that we
needed them, and like we need them, and I'm just
(07:47):
gonna change them and I'm gonna be rich. Actually I
won't be the product ideal immediately taken.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If you build a mechanism, it's so hard to say anyway,
the add.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
My uncle asked me, I should if I was gonna
bite the bullet, get medicated to the dock.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For add Yeah. Oh, because I forgot you never made
a call. Oh yeah, full diagnosis, the whole full monty honey.
But not for fifteen years, right right and classic add fashion.
I got the number called, the woman left a message
or almost did, and they just never.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Pursued it beyond that. But yeah, I can feel this
in The seasons are shifting. Something is in the air.
Do you feel this well?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Seasons shifted as of today. To me, that's the first
day I felt and noticeable anything.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The other day. Put on a sweater, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I cracked open, and by open, I mean on and
fred heater outside.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Let the dust burn off.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I've been afraid for two years to turn it back
on because I let it get filled.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
With like dust. Wait the lightlight? No, no, just.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure Boo has some'mwhere
to be cozy right anyway, go on?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, just just the seasons that we need. The seasons
were guided by them. It actually is essential.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
The weather. It has to reflect the interior and vice versa.
It's like a it. We need it. Change.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We need to, We need to be nudged into new
into new moods and realities. And I can feel it
and I'm doing full new life now. Ceremony, Back on armor,
back on vitamin D. Vitamin D every day, I'm deficient
as we all are or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, but
then you got to be careful. See this has when
all spirals right, Vitamin D. Oh, I'm deficient.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Take vibin D.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You have to regularly take like five hundred a day,
but then like three months you have to go check
and make sure you're not overdosing, because if you have
too much vitamin D, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Anything where there's a risk of overdosing is where I go.
I guess I'm not getting it because I can't manage.
You know, the poison is the dose or whatever they say. Yeah,
remind me to tell you I had an explosive facial
with Johanna Check, so let's get into that at some point.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, remind me, just go right in.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I also finally went to Kosha Spa to what and
I got lymphatic dream image at a rikari. Okay, wait,
hand on, slow down. What's Kosha Spa? Were we offered no, no, okay,
you're paying out of pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, yeah, well you go to the SPA next week
with me five four three two decision you goriage decision.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
With a countdown, please, I mean, yeah, but I'm just
trying to think because I'm finally getting back in my
routine after.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You know, too bad, you have to go with me,
it's essential. I'm just saying, why, why isn't it the weekend.
I'm not good enough for your weekends? The weekends?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Tell those so crowded, right right? You don't want to
go to puss About on the weekend?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
What other fucking uncles there? I want to go somewhere?
I don't, I don't know, but yeah, I mean I'm
looking for that kind of experience. Although I did hear
about a spa in Palm Springs. That's like brand spanking new,
I think. And so it's just something nice about when
you're like, I'm a third person in this bath, spend
the night.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Maybe let's reach out what they call let's go listen
in folks listen in.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But wait, I yeah, so I've essentially had three premium
poog experiences, you know what I mean, Like in the
sense of but I paid. It was all and I'll
say it again pre Emmy's desperation.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Where you go? You said you got buckle massage. Yeah, Kosha,
I've been dying for that. What's Kosha? Kosha?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've sent you a bunch and I've recommended it on
this podcast. People have gone as a result. They got
there before even I got there. So Kosha, she has
an Instagram account, she's blonde. She does face massage, you know,
and then she shows doing it in her studio. Kosha
spa on Instagram. And so I wanted to go in
for a very long time and I went in. It
(11:38):
was with a different practitioner, but anyway, I went in there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It was heavenly.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I kind of like fell asleep essentially. I mean, while
their saw them is in your sheet. It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Loved it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
The environment was really quite nice, I mean, which isn't
always a case. And I don't even mind when the
environment is sort of whatever, as long as once around
the table with the environment was quite lovely.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Loved it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Not much to say Juanna check who I've followed for years.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is huge.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I was like nervous to meet the facialist because
she was a celebrity facialist. She was just suggestion everything
you could hope for. Oh yeah, I got suggestions, all right.
It's like what like what like what I mean? I
got major wisdom. I mean, first of all, she was
so cool, you know what I mean. Yeah, you'll see her,
(12:28):
you'll go, oh okay, yeah, like there's a a two
silver massager.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Like that's very classic her.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
She she just I was immediately at ease because did
you find her?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, to be clear, I know, I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
I was gonna say, I feel like I have seen
her before yeaheah.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I think she's like does she have thick black
rimmed glasses yep, yeah, and like blonde hair. And it's
just I was immediately at ease. And I get on
the table and this is like a classic thing, the
whole idea of like the facial before. You know, it's
this thing where it's like two to three days before
the enemies, and so there's this like it's like the
(13:11):
wedding thing with the facial It's like, well, normally maybe
I'd go after this or that, but this close to
the thing, you don't want to do anything too wild.
Take a risk, and you know my sort of sense
of always wanting everything to be extreme. Like I'm almost
like it, you know what I mean, like like do it.
I don't care if like you've you know, land popped
(13:33):
on my face. Yeah, like just like almost I'd rather
have the injury than the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Problem, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Like, but I trusted her whatever, and she was like
over my face, like she's like while she's doing things,
she's like almost whispering, like extensive scientific knowledge. Okay, extensive okay,
what like what she was? I think against the prescription retinoids?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, I love to hear this.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'm breaking in with a quick thing.
I got a facial two days ago. I've talked about
retinoids on the podcast. How dare I have a podcast
even pretending to about tective to beauty or wellness?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I myself are not on them. Yeah. I made
the decision. I'm doing it. And guess what, my germ, my.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
My facialists I really trust, gave me a veen, the
drug store French brand.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, retinal you know it's like mixed in with the cream,
non prescription straight. Yeah, just chiming in to say that
I'm planning on starting tonight. Okay, go, well, yes, exactly.
So she's explaining in this glorious flood of the retinoic acid,
you know what all these things are made of, Vitamin A.
Vitamin A is the first thing. Vitamin A.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
When it hits the skin, it turns into the retoic acid,
which okay, h two ls wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, like that's two kids.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And I'm like hoping that she knows how much I'm
enjoying it and how much I want more and like
doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm like loving it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So anyway, she's like the retinoic whatever, the prescription one.
I don't know if she said it was too drying
or too irritating or something, but it was like I
believe it. Yeah, like it's irritating or almost. Like so
she's she believes in these other ones. And then the
other thing that's really cool about her is she's like
she has products. And I got like a travel like
(15:22):
a really nice set of products in a gorgeous travel
bag like that. I was like, I might use this
as a purse, and like the only other people who'll
know are the other people, Like, like it's stunning okay, yeah, anyway,
but she has products, you know, but she's like, I
don't believe in lines like you know, in a skincare
and line, like, I believe in individual products like and
(15:45):
she even pushes and recommends things that are not the
Joanna chick.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So at the end, she's like she's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Laying out different things and different things I might be
interested in or whatever, and she's talking and They're all like,
all these products are laid out, and I'm like, well,
what would it be if I was getting everything or
like you know, like, well what do you have, like
do you have the placenta drops or whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yea, yeah, She's like yeah, she goes, she goes yeah,
but it's so expensive. Yeah, And I'm like how much okay,
and she's like two hundred dollars and I'm like, uh,
for the for the face of my dreams, people have
gone they go seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I've and I've had people say four point fifty
okay for the same amount or less product.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The straight face right, totally, so totally. I just thought
it was elegant and fucking cool. The people's facialists and
not just act like you know, and then and then
she's like and I'm like, and what about like the
other products, the ones you were recommending, like the vitamin A,
the particular C like you know her CE And she's like, oh,
this is a very affordable brand. It's called Environ. And
(16:48):
it was like all these Environ products this is and
I was like, ring me up, okay, ring me And
then she wrote she wrote down for me, like the
plan like morning night. Can I just I mean I
think so. But the headlines were I mean, it was
essentially it was a oh so. One of the big
things was, you know she has a toner. But a
(17:11):
toner anytime water touches the face, okay, washing whatever, whatever
it is, you know, toner instantly to reset the pH
of the skin.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
That is like if you strip away that pH, good luck.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you mean like once you once water's there, you
have to meetly apply something else you're saying.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, like like after you shower, after you cleanse whatever. Yeah,
it's like you strip some of the acid or I
think that you actually need. It's like the face is
supposed to be like slightly acidic or something. Yeah, you must,
and which you know makes sense to me. I mean
I've been using variety of essences and toners and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, I'm addicted to now the snail musin in the
spray bottle? Which one is that I'm on my second bottle.
It's costs r X.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm trying to picture it. It's like sixteen bucks and
it's I can sort of see it in my head.
Is it actually slightly thinner then the other one that
they have in the pump bottle?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
So here's what's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
When it hits my face, it feels a little bit thinner,
But when I'm looking at the bottle, it's thick in there.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So this is a huge question of like can you
force anything through an atomizer essentially spray?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I know, yeah, I mean I've tried and failed at times.
I've gone with something too thick, but wow, congrats.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So yeah, I was just I was really really just
lit up from within with her knowledge and her entire style,
and it was just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I'm going to be diving deeper into her world.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I do that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I do Kosha and I did lymphatic drainage at rick Haari.
Did we talk about that place?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I don't think so? Okay, sounds familiar. I got a
wreck from a dear friend, Tracy Anderson.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No it wasn't. It wasn't Tracy. I got a wreck,
and I was like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So psychologically, here's what I experienced about Red carpet preparation. Okay,
I think this is a notionan, I think this is interesting.
So I felt pressure to Oh God, what am I
supposed to be doing? There's all this stuff I'm supposed
to be doing to prepare for the Red carpet?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Right now? Why did I feel that way?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Our entire lives were reading in the magazines, here's what
the stars do to get ready for the Red Carpet,
And it's always it's the most extreme, and it's suggested
as kind of the most extreme, like more extreme than
even these wedding type things. Right, It's like you want
to do what they do because like it's like almost
like looking good is their job, Like everything's on the line.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So and it's the Red Carpet.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's the the biggest deal we have, you know, and
so you're like I was almost like, oh shit, there's
stuff I'm supposed to be doing. Of course, almost like
if I'm not emphatically drained and everyone else is well.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I just look like a pile of lymph up there,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, So it's just, you know, it's just like anxiety
and like kind of like I'm wanting a spot experience
and having like a you know, that'll be fun whatever.
So in I went, and it was a humongous machine.
I took photos and a huge machine. They move it
and they move the limb all over your body and
I want to hear results. They carve you out and
it cost hundreds. It cost hundreds.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Did you see a difference?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Who knows, But it's the one where you get into
the white smock body stocking. How many hundreds I can't
totally remember because four.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It feels like it was at least.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Four, because I don't know if that's like a turning
point for me, if something like still within the realm
of three hundred, yeah, I can almost be like, well,
that's practically like a two hundred dollars dinner that I
overspent at or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, Like but like four, you're like I start getting
into like, oh rent it, yeah, totally totally. Fuck. You're
reminding me of a bill I have to pay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I still get alert at my phone that says like
your account has more than one two hundred and forty
five dollars that I set up like or like a
million years ago when I first was in New York
and I just wanted to make sure I always had
my rent money in my account. Yeah, yeah, as though
that was enough, but I was just scared of dip below. Yeah, anyway,
still get it. Maybe it's time to update it for.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
A love that you still have your eleven fifteen alarm.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Something that I'm ready to really bag for. And I
don't know if you're interested in this too.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I think I want a sauna. Well, here we go.
What do you mean couldn't you? It's a huge question
because can't I do it in the back patio?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Do you want one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Sure do well, because it's the size of like, well,
there's a few things here.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Here's the fear, right, so be sacrificing precious outdoor space
as we all would be.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And then do I use it once every two months? Right?
Like this is the fear?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Or it's like you use it once every day for
two months and then never again exactly one bird drops
something on it and it's over.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, No, I want to get into this hardcore. I
want to get into this hard core.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So obviously, if you're getting that, you're gonna need the
cold Plunge next to it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
We'll see, this is where we go, this is where
we fuck. By the way, I've seen where you live.
You have the space.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Ooh yeah, so I'm thinking there's a little area that
I am like, fuck. By the way, I'll go further.
I could technically even fit the cold punch. But then
you're looking at fucking astronomical price.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So listen.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I have a fancy friend. Okay, she has an at
home SNA really nice. In my mind, I go, is
it fifteen K? Right?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I was like, how much is it? I go home,
look it up. You looked up a specific ones under
six K. I want to be clear, it's still very expensive.
Did you notice here's my question? Did you look at
the brand?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That was like, like, did you essentially clock the brand
when you were in the friends thing and go home
and google? Or did you ask no, no, no, I
clocked it fully. I was like, huh, and what was
the brand? Because I'm thinking it's.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Rerand new ri and or hang on, let me look
at this round. I'm seeing renew sauna.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, one for one or for two? Is it a
social experience? It's got to be for two, right, You've
got to do two because otherwise what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I want to be in there with my lover. I
want to be in there with my friends. Yeah, yeah,
it's okay. Right here, I'm looking two people we're looking
at It's basically six khundred and fifty four weird number.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Ray New Therapy. Are you looking at the one that
looks like a barrel? Yep? The Zeno barrel home sauna handsome? Yep.
I cant held on its, honey, I'm just laughing like this.
I saw one of these in my back patio, like
in my apartment complex. Like it was just charge charge people.
So here's a question. What does it run on? Okay,
(23:38):
So here's the reason why I feel empowered to do this.
Will confused.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
The little area in my backyard that has like a
power thing, like I think you just plug it into it.
I don't know these answers. Okay, let's look here, all.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Right, how much I'm wondering how much? And this is
I know this is relevant because everyone posts these questions.
It's like they all want to know you know, because
by the way, you see some cold plunges that look actually,
I'm going to go head to Amazon the cold Plunge.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I think that's where I kind of draw a line.
I go, I don't know, another stage in life. If
money is no object, why is Why do you think
the cold plunges is so cold? Punch is more expensive?
Well not if you not if you do it right,
look at the.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Look at this fucking ship. Not if you get the barrel.
The thing is the plastic barrel.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, but it's like I'm just looking at Amazon for
fun okay, and for real plunge magic Okay, it's inflatable,
so yeah, that's like a balloon, but six hundred dollars okay.
Then they seem like this this barrel cold plunge tub
ice bath. I think that's like something you there's a
big tub of water and then you drop that thing
(24:40):
in and it makes it cold.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You want to you want to tell me they're not
going to give us this. Well, here you guys, renew
we do a renew Oh, a renew arian renew Is
that what they want?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean it must be. I'm seeing the black cold Plunge. Yeah,
it's beautiful leak. Look a wooden top.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I also I went to after you did, I went
running to pause. This was part of my my prep.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I went in there. I did a sauna cold plunge.
By the way, I might be I might be going
to pause tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Oh my god, they're open at night. Yeah, you were
like the receptionist a hag. And I went in there,
like like which location, like West Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I guess Judio City is the hag. Okay, good to know, Cooper,
I believe shout out. So the cold, stoic, hysterical. That's
my way.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Imagine imagine thousand dollars. Yeah, me calling pause to make
a clear pause? Is a chain spaw experience in Los
Angeles maybe other cities.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know. They do sauna cold plunge float experiences whatever. Chea,
Okay they do. I got an ivy drip there. I
felt like a shot.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I got a shot of something as but yeah, oh no,
it wasn't be twelve it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Was I forget. Yeah maybe, but but they you know,
it ain't cheap, but it's nice and I will go
there and you know, but.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Imagine having it in your home. The ability to saugn
a cold plunge. Shit, let's just think about this. Let
me just think about this, think about it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean, well, here's the question. Here's the question. Right,
you go, we're getting it, We're getting in the body.
You can feel it. Really. Yeah. Because by the way,
listen to me, Listen to me. Let's call it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's almost twenty thousand, it's almost twenty grand. Okay, they're
going to do it, by the way, it's actually it
has to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Now, we need to see if they are currently if
they have any partners. So what I'm saying, do they
have a Instagram presence, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The renew God, imagine it? How often though, let's talk
about it. If there's a not a cold plunge. So
at first you're doing it, yeah, constantly, Yeah, and then
what happens? I think if you can do it three
times a week, it's worth having in your home.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
How do you feel about that? Certainly? My question is this,
Oh my god, see, I'm going so fucking I'm going
so like cosmic with this. Where I'm going if I
have this, you know, everything changes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Dropping into breathing where yeah, yeah, this is gonna be
the time that it's just you know, returning to the
self because I'm going I have to slow down the guides.
I'm not quiet enough for the guides to enter me,
for them to just give me their messages. I'm going
way too fast.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've relapsed. I have Instagram on my good phone. Is
everyone hearing this? I have Instagram on my good phone.
Instagram is on my phone. I'm fucked.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I have to take it off. Yeah. I've been struggling
with that a little bit. You go in there thing,
you see other stuff, and so hell, they actually have
to give us the free systems. That's like this, we're
going to pay. I'm so fixated. I'm seeing it. I'm
seeing a life of it.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So I just want to play this out right, because
there was a period where I'm trying to think I
would do the higher dose blanket.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, we had that going right, h I still have
it right now. It's full it up on your money too, Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
In a moment of chaos of like, you know, get
it out, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm
going I could be doing my own sweat in front
of even the infrared heater I have of several Okay,
if you're doing red light combo plus infrared sweat and
then getting a cold tub. I could be doing that, okay,
(28:23):
oh god, and having you know, getting the results. So
this is like the classic question. This is like buying
the fucking drum set, the full drum set, hoping that
will force you to you know, get get do the drums.
And then it's like, you know, know, what you need
is like the drum pad and the two sticks and
see if you can bring yourself to do it for
(28:43):
five minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's so I'm just now.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I also believe the purchasing things is one of the
only rituals well you have left, okay, and I'm modern
ritual of I don't know, you know, it's that's all
we have, right, So perse go I purchased, you know,
like I'm in an energetic exchange.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Let's be with this slip liner today. By the way,
walking by part of the reason I was late to
pood today.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Not only is she late, she's gone. She just disappeared.
She knocked her camera. She's gone. I think she did
something with the flipliner. I'll take this moment to do
a bit of reading. Oh she's in the lobbying a letter.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
In Hello, she's back. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So you did it at Alipliner today talk about energetic exchange.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So today I'm walking by. I already started a book.
Oh you were gone?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, okay, okay, going in the sales experience, right,
we talk about this endlessly.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Where'd you go in? I can't see the show. I
knew it was Credo. Yeah, I don't know why, but
I just knew. You went to Creto.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, I went into Creto. I was walking walking. I
walked by Blue Mercury because I go, I want a
new press powder. I go, Bloo Mercury. I keep walking.
I go, you have to leave by the way two
hags on the street or hags. I go, oh my god,
I'm late to go record with Jacoline. It was it was,
you know, I go buy Credo. I go, you got
a minute? You know it's you want. You're not browsing.
I go in there press powder. Anyway, The point is,
(30:12):
why do you want press powder? Shine for my purse?
Shine purse? But really like you look yourself and go shiny.
I get very shiny, and I do a loose powder,
like if I'm going out to my makeup, loose powder,
pup pup up. I'll do a setting spray, and I'm
usually fine, but like, particularly in the daytime because I'm
(30:32):
doing like Ilia skin serum. I have sunscreen on quite
f and I powder it and close it down, and
I want the little compact.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
With the mirror.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I want to be able to open it and look
at myself a little on the tea on the te zone,
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, so I'm in there. This woman is helping me.
She is very beautiful, she has unbelievable makeup. She's fucking young.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, she's maybe hmm, it's almost uncomfortable, like I think
she may have been like twenty three, honestly. And I
suddenly felt, by the way, what's uncomfortable because I felt
like lecherous or something like there's no way I wasn't
behaving in that way up but something.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
About it, like I hate little girl.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I felt like I was like a perverse old man
having like someone sell me a car and being like yeah, yeah,
like I.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't know, like I felt like and she she had
amazing ting up on. Yeah, well she had amazing I
loved her lip color.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We're talking about powders, and she's kind of like She's
like she's kind of like cool and like kind of
checked out and like she like doesn't fucking care and
like or something which draws me in, and I go,
I'm crowning.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh yeah by the end. So then it was your
first little like joke you made. Essentially it was visual.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I just felt myself just being crazy with my face
and you kind of laughed h and I go, oh yeah,
So I go, I love your lip color and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
She like that, yeah, I get ready. I'm like, what
did you what did you? Yeah? I felt my eye.
I love those lamps, and I just felt weird. She
takes me over.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
She showed me the slipliner very similar to her color
I have. I'm just like sold right, I'm like I'm
getting it. And it was like it was like because
of her, she sold it to me. She was to
me not a good sales person.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I say that with love. She wasn't, but or was she?
Because there's nothing worse. Okay, you can relate to this.
Went into a store the other day. I hate it
when they when they they come for you, when they oh,
when they come for you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I had a full come for which was having an
explosive morning with the community.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
We took this long walk. We're good to that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm talking to this guy. Oh you know she makes
the best and panadas. Oh my god, they sell out
by now. And we're having so much fun right.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
By all the time limit to give me meaning to life.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, going exactly, going into stores i'd never been before,
having fun. This guy goes, we just opened a new store,
brand new. It's our grand opening, grand opening, very stressful
time for a shop.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, so you want to go to support. We're eating,
we're finishing up, our food will come in after. Okay.
They were on me okay, oh no no, and they
were the guy that had brought you in in the bus, right,
so sweet, yeah, wish the business the best. No, but
I was checking. It was the same person.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, no, no, same no, And it was before and
they're showing you every item and it was like samples
of this, samples of that, and wait, what kind of
store was it?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Or you don't want to say, because.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The beauty products alongside some home objects, Oh my god,
high price point. Okay, boo a tik boutique. But so
so this woman today with the lip pencil, she kind
of seemed a bit inconvenienced by me.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It was empty. It was like no, right, we never
got to it right her, she seemed she seemed was better.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Her failed technique worked because I actually and it was
aspirational because she.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Had her makeup was amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
You wanted to impress her or like something, and it
was like I was buying the limp pencils she had on.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It was like it worked.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I was like hot girl, like I wanted to Yeah,
like it worked, and I really did feel like standing
next to her, she was like I like this one.
She was like yeah, I like this one too, like
like yeah, kind of like a darker right, And then
I was kind of like being like a girl with her.
I was like, yeah, like I have one just like that,
like the We're over at the checkout and she was like,
(34:15):
I love your purse and I was.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Like, I'm fucking in bitch, yeah. And I did it
like you mean like the house.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, I'm like in her eyes sixty five hunchback like
like lipstick on a pig, like like oinking my way
back to my car.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But by the way, it felt so fucking good. It
really worked. I felt transformed by the purchase. I was
like in the car, putting it on in the in
the little mirror, and I was like, I love this color.
It fucking worked twenty five dollars for a new life.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I mean, this is this is part of the trouble
at Sephora, right, It's like a multi world's problem. It's like, okay,
so it's like, so you have and you have like
a lot of brands in there, right, and you go
to one brand's shelf and you've got you know what
seems like every color lipstick in the world. Okay, yeah,
and then you walk over to another shel different brand,
every color lipstick in the world. Right, So you're going, okay,
(35:16):
could I, in theory find this pink over in this
other brand? Right, Like you're very aware of that fact
versus the makeup counter. Back in the day, you had
to buy into the brand that you wanted to go
look at first, Right, you gotta go, you know what,
I'm going to the Chanelle counter.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Right, You're like a stay louder. Oh my god, wait, sorry,
this is okay, it's bringing in was that here it
the whole time? No?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh my god, okay, Because I was yearning for a
Celsius and there weren't any of the fridge and then
one disappeared.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Amazing. Okay, so look at people, Oh shit, God, that
does sound good. Damn doing an aduava.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
By the way, Celsius, to be clear, sent us palettes
of Celsius, so shout out, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, and we got through them and now I'm back,
huge shout out.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I think there were some new flavors in there, and
imagine Celsius x poog.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Wait, hold on, but I'm not done. So you go,
you know what, I'm going to Chanel? Okay, by the way,
we go, you go like, well, let's go to the
mac counter and you're like, if you.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Could have a beauty, if you could have an endorsement,
you could be the face of a beauty brandmother to
be makeup brand.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
My Chanelle, your's a Chanel.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I love Channel makeup. I just do.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And I know it might be like made with rat poison.
When I was a teenager, it locked me and it's
a team sprung for this. As a teen someone said
like that the I forget how because I wasn't. I
wasn't over there, but then I somehow ended up over
there and I got not. I believe I've talked about this,
but it was this sort of shimmery kind of brightish
(37:15):
blue liqu no liquid wand eyeshadow, and we built I
say we like I think I was like at the
mall with my mom and it was like there was
some kind of dance and I'd gotten this gold kind
of a burnished gold on kids on kids dress kids
kids an kids, I mean, you know, just above the
(37:37):
knee and it's very like felt very like like Juliette,
like almost like a lace or some kind of pattern.
It was just it was gold, and it was like, well,
what's the you know, what's the dress? And and then
it was like, well this blue And the idea of
blue eye shadow was always sort of treated as like
kind of like a joke or something, you know what
I mean, like a blue eye shadow.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Like, but I was like, no, this is like a
beautiful you know, and like with the gold.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And then I remember also being like talking about the
brows and like something with the brown like they framed
the face. I feel like it was like an early
live experience on the whole, like the brows. You know,
if you get the brow right, you know, everything else
falls into place, and I think it's probably one of
those things that I never felt so beautiful, like meaningfully
put it together, choice by choice. This is actually relevant
(38:26):
also to the ammies. Okay, and then why this is
an issue and so forth. I want meaningful choices otherwise
it could be anything, right, everything has to mean something.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And so how do you do it? This is a
marketing lesson, folks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, so they used to do it by naming the shades.
That was their first attempt. Oh right, yeah, I mean
and what you flip it over, you know, and it's
ballets slippers.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, black honey clinique. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, honey, that
was That is Julia Robertson's stepmom. That is her passing
the lipstick. She lights up. Mommy gave me the entrance
into womanhood. The doors have been flung open.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
She brings down the mirror, puts on the black honey
lipstick that color, let me tell you. And that was
something it took off on TikTok or something in the
last couple of years. Yeah, it was like sold out.
You couldn't get it because the teenagers that like preteens,
were going crazy for it. That black honey that had mystique,
this mystical property to it. Yeah, and then I'm just
gonna say this. A few months ago, I'm standing in
(39:33):
a in a half circle a beautiful woman. Okay, shocking
famous there, I said it, hugely famous. Mid conversation, pulls
out black.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Honey and you could tell you could see it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I knew it instantly, and I go, that's branding.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Did you say black honey? Or yeah? I actually did? Close? No,
I know I did.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm gonna lookup right now if you can even fucking
buy it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's sold out in every country.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Sorry to bring up the enemies again, okay, but I
just want to say, like it.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Was, it was twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, I still have a love of clinique, like like
just a spiritual love of clinique.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's genius. It's called I'm sorry, but they call it
almost lipstick. Yeah. That's by the way. You can get
this ship on Amazon. That's crazy. You gotta be careful.
I mean, that's what I'm not getting. That's the rumor.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, you want to experience. You don't want it floating
like rapist sexlessness. Imagine something more depressing than buying makeup
on Amazon, except sometimes you got to and sometimes sometimes
you got to. And sometimes the fact that Amazon carries
something that you didn't think it would, I know, they
shock us. I mean, Chris, we ordered a suit overnight. No, yeah,
(40:47):
no sign Amazon side came. No, he slips it on,
perfect fit. Okay, they had length and you know, like
all the different iterations of what how it all? That's
like wild men's suits are like chaotic sizing.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And I was like, I'm doing it because like I'm
buying buck honey right now, keep going.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I am like King of Remember when I got the tuxedo.
We've got the tuxedo and at our last minute before
an event, and then we got that tailored.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
New War to the Emmys. Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I spent weeks doing brick and mortar, by the way
for his shoes. And it was another thing about the
meaningful thing.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It was about we're getting Okay, we're doing the Bana
Republic talks because that's what we have. We're gonna find
meaning and like we're going to use this as an
opportunity to get an exciting shoe.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh yeah, you see what I mean. Oh yeah. It's
like so we get into this idea, our friend Paul's.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Like, look at a pair of farragamos, you know the
last thirty years, right, Oh my god, so you go, okay,
here we go. He's given me meaning right, oh yeah yeah,
And I'm like, okat we have faaragamas and like whatever.
And he like sends me a picture of like his
like old farra gamos that like you know, are still
kicking right beautiful, and I'm like, yes, yes, yes, okay.
(41:55):
We literally Nemans sacks. We went to those ones in
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Another honey.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Even Marcus, Oh my god, do I tell you in
four days when I was talking about the name and
Marcus in the past episode and how there was no
Ac and it was fucking shocking.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh, your shoes are still sixteen hundred dollars, there's no Ac. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Somebody who worked at the North chums DM. She's a
hag sorry that worked at Demons.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
What section working at the road and meet them working
at the Row and this to call out to the Row.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
We need the Row to completely outfit Jacolin and myself.
Thank you. What goes without fucking saying yeah okay, but
wait keep going?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
No, so did you get the breaking water experience, multiple trips, Okay,
sizes the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What are we getting pat and leather? Then you go,
what is a tuxedo?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I start to go like, what's what are the shoes?
All this thing? It's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
They don't have the size, And so we go down
the oh and we've decided like we're spending it, like
that's going to be the thing. We're spending money on
nine hundred and fifty dollars for a Farragamo shoe. Yep,
it was a It was such an intense like endeavor
and like the sizing and this is where brick and
mortar fails. And it's like they act like the fact
like well, we know we can order it to the
store and have it here in nine days.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
We know.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, it's like hey, I know we can in your size.
We can say, and I could drive you know over here.
So whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh. Also, actually, actually I had an experience where so
we went in, we're looking around.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
They don't have the thing. I've researched it extensively online.
This is the thing. I know exactly what's in stock
right and emails or what they have. So we get
to the store.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I go up, I go looking for the exact one
that I'm interested in, you know, and this woman comes
over and is starting to kind of offer help, and
I'm like, thank you, okay, and it's like, do you
have this in the bl blow size? They say no, right,
she goes and checks, comes back as it says no.
Now it begins this kind of well if you're looking
for a nice tuxedo shoe, right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And then just showing me things and it's like I'm
there with a specific thing and I'm not I'm not
just a I'm looking for a tuxedo shoe, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Mean, Like yeah, of course, and then she's sort of
pushing this one and it's like and Chris is like,
like I forgot Chris said, But basically I was like, well,
I'm not I'm not ready, okay.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I was like I was like it was like this
confusing thing like and I just like like I was like,
it was like I just I need a break or something.
And then like I'm like I just need to like
walk around and think. We left.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
We ended up coming back two hours later, okay, and
I had to go in with a fresh attitude because
I was like you know, she might not like me
from earlier went in and we're like, all right, let's
look around. Maybe we can they don't have that, but
we need something fast now. I will go to the
last minute, you know. And you know, Chris is like
four days out and he's like, I don't know shoes.
(44:41):
He's like kind of freaked, you know what I mean,
Like just whatever, Yeah, but I'm like, all right, let's
look at some other brands. Like we're springing for a shoe.
We're like, yeah, like, let's see what else this year
and be find some y SL shoes okay.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
And we're like, oh, We're like that's pretty, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
And I'm like that's that's pretty right, and like into it,
and the whole thing tries it on and I start
sort of selling myself on whatever we like. I'm like
the paragama like I've moved on whatever becomes so intense
on these Laurels, okay. And then we get them and
it's the whole thing with the sizing that she's going
to send us the bigger size to our home, but
we're going to bring home the one that's smaller in
(45:19):
case blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Whatever. We do the whole thing. You know, we're going
in the enemage, oh you know. And then and then yeah, yeah,
and then I get home and my stomach flies into
a knot.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Okay, no, because and I send a picture to Paul
right my friend, and I go, Paul, like the Paragamas
fell apart on us, we got why I sell?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I go tell me is the quality? Is the quality enough? Okay?
Because I'd forgotten, like it wasn't just like oh, we're
getting the loss forever. And so I go, oh God.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
And then I googled the quality of a Laurent Laurels shoes,
you know, and like, you know, you see some stuff
and you just don't know whatever. And then like he's
not replying right away, I'm like panicking, oh no. And
then like later we got on He's like what I
didn't see it? And I'm like, okay, Paul, I'm like,
we got Laurel. And I'm like, just is that good call?
I's like yeah, I'm like no, but Paul, like the
whole idea is like the Pharagama and the quality like
(46:13):
is it good or is it just like one of
those things where they make it cheap and they you know,
put the name Laurel on. It started panicking, going, Italy
is the only place.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
That can make a shoe. Yeah, go, you're not wrong,
but I go.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You know, I was like, and he's like, if Faragamo
is an A, it's an A minus, but it is
definitely an A minus.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That was his okay, and I breathed.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But then it can't. It came around to them not
being comfortable. They're so pointy the whole thing. We go
back on the hunt for the Paragamas. We decide we
want a velvet Faragama slipper.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Okay, hang on, hang on with thousands of dollars of
shoes are sitting in mining. No no, no, wait, keep going.
This is amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
It's slowly coming back back. You want a Feragama slipper,
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
So we decide fara Gamo, and we decide, I go, Chris,
would you be excited about because he wasn't that excited
about the Laurent technically, and he was excited that it
was a nice shoe, but it wasn't like inherently loving
the shoe.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And I was on this pat and leather kick because
of the just I was.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
And then I'm reading, oh, velvet slipper is a tuxedo,
a nice tuxedo look, and his eyes lit up, okay,
And I was like, I was like, you like this?
And I found the most beautiful, the most beautiful velvet
slipper from Ferragamo. I was like, that's the one. I
knew that's the one, okay. And so then it becomes
a whole hunting for the size, the whole thing. It's
(47:34):
not I order the size overnight from Burgdorfs forget to
click the final button.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
The next morning. I'm going, oh god, okay, I click it.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Then it's like it'll come Sunday morning, the day of
the Emmys, right, I go, fuck, Okay, So we got
that coming. We got the Laurent sitting there. You know,
this is like talk about like a credit card thing,
and just being like yeah, like is it real?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And then and they're not going to come in time.
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We get this other one at the wrong size. I
can't even remember. There were so many trippers on me.
It all comes down to a half hour before we
are leaving for the Emmys. No, no, okay, half far
for the Emmys. The pair in the cric size is
located at stop Nordstrom. I think Chris is showered and
(48:17):
I go, Chris, it's there. I go, Chris, Now, can
you imagine mistakes headed in the other direction? Okay, the
car is going to be there. They come fifteen minutes earlier,
like you know, okay, and he's like, I'll do it,
like knowing the risks. If I still want it to
be done, he's like, he's like, you know, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah. I'm like, uber, there's no time for parking. Okay,
oh my god. He goes. He gets back in time.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
The most beautiful fair slippers, pictures of them on the gram,
slips them on and off we go.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Oh that's fun. I'll have to post them.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
They're so please and now like our life is devoted
to returns, our life is completely going to be held.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
So we're trying to go back to the Laurel and
then the can you wear them out? So you're fine,
Oh yeah, they were only tried on in the house. Amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I think we've got three pairs going back on the
going back on the m three pairs going back. Yeah,
there was because there was an initial, it's like oh
and then I'm sorry, Like like the story is both
like I can't even apologize for story because like it
actually is like to me kind of like it is poog.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
You know what I mean. Yeah yeah, but like of course,
so then like because there's an eight D, like the
hyper focus.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
When I'm able to achieve if you just like leave
me be, when I'm able to achieve in mere minutes
with the flying brain that's coming up with creative options,
it's like amazing, And that's how I pull it out.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
That's how I like your fly research.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
And I was trying to stay Chris, like you do
understand like the levels of research I've done, like speedy research,
Like I know the stock at every store in this country,
like you know, like every shoe, Like it's like and
then and then we realize, like, oh fuck, he doesn't
have a shoe to go with the suit I got
On Amazon, I find an offer up the correct size
of a Ferragamo loafer for seventy dollars from a doctor
(50:14):
in the Hills.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Okay, no, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
And I'm like sending the message this guy, like do
you think they could be worn out tonight? Like they
spiffy enough to be worn out tonight. It's like seventy
bucks or something, and he's like absolutely okay. He's like
they're the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. Okay, whatever
what happened?
Speaker 1 (50:30):
I sent an Uber Okay, I go, I'll vemmo you
now I don't care, like like I'm not afraid. I'll
take the risk, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Like before get him in hand, they send an Uber
package whatever, They scoop him up, they drop him off,
Chris slides his feet into them, and out we go
with a suit from Amazon. This was, you know, like
a night before thing. So now we got two faragaumas,
one used for like seventy bucks.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, that's amazing. And then the full price I don't know,
I just like it was it was.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
You can get some amazing. I'll just say I love
a Manola. Blank, I have a few pairs of Panola's.
I've never paid full price for a Manola.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Now, how are the bottoms when you get him? Good?
And guess what I do resol Okay, well that's what
I was going to say. How much? Not a lot? Right?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It is no, no, very reasonable. It depends a pair. Yeah,
I have a pair of precious.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Manolas that I'm actually going to take to the because
I have a really fancy shoe guy who will basically
take a shoe in. It's like a brainish shoe and
he's fucking expensive, meaning one hundred bucks maybe.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Okay, your shoe better be less than that, but almost. Yeah,
so it can be done. Because I mean, so you.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Could find a because I feel like the bottoms are
the part that buns me out. Yes, I mean because
it was what the actual leather of the top is
going to be fine. It's like the bottom is what
makes you feel like it's an old parachute.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's a beating. Yeah. Total, you get a so you
find like a beat up pear and you bring it
to a coll.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Not a beat up hair even you can find listen,
you know you know what style you want, you know
what size you can find these shoes on. Like they're
they're fine, and by some of them, I'm not saying
they're cheap. You might still be spending two hundred, three
hundred dollars, but it's a Manola and it's in totally
fine quality.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I was lay like at a moment, like see us
from the outside, just like into two microphones, you know
what I mean, Like yeah, you're paying three hundred, but
I mean it's a Manolo for christ sake.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
No, I mean I stand by it. I justn't.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
It's twenty five minutes on going to shoes with me, man,
I know, I know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
I absolutely I love it. I felt like a shiver
of excitement as you said it.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Okay, So I've never had a par of Minola's, although
it's very hard for me to buy.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I mean that would be the gateway in I think
would be the the used pair. But again it's like, well, bang,
a brand new listen. I've pained in a fetishistic way once.
That was very important to me. I feel like we've
talked about oh my sandals product, Yeah, exact product, product
product blues.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Isn't it like that? I remember too? Like that's how
it is? Yeah, And the joy they bring me.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
I think about them every time I walk through this show.
I go, I go, well, Kate went for it with
those those ones. I go, But I'm walking around and go,
am I just gonna spot something?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Again, it's like, how do I if I'm going to
go for it, how do I seduce myself into the purchase?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Like? Am I going to ink act.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yeah, but is it like I could get into the
spirit of I'm gonna go to like whatever is the
greatest store, and what's going to be like cool about it?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Is that I just sort of spot something I like.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I like those in yellow please, you know, to be
in that space that takes a lot. I think I'm
just rubbing this over my face. It's like the glowing thing.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I don't really know why I'm doing it, but yeah,
it's make up.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
But wait, I said, I said not to bring up
the Emmys again, but then I never said the thing,
which is I just don't say, like it was kind
of incredible, okay, because I'm standing there and I go,
oh my god, because it's sort of this waiting around
period going in oh uh huh huh, like on the
red carpet. That isn't like they're not photographing you. You're
just staying there, you know what I mean. Yeah, So
(54:19):
it's like kind of like waiting and just like looking around,
and I go, I should go live for the Hags. Okay,
but it all feels very high stakes to me.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Now, like I feel like I'm in a military complex.
Like I feel like I am like almost like is
it even legal? You know, like right, so like like
intense and serious, like you know, like it's like it
actually feel like this is the most important.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Event in the entire world, you know. I'm like, I
don't do it. I'm like and then I click over
and I hit go live.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
I don't say anything. I don't even turn the camera
like up, like I kind of like it was like
I was like a spy for the Hags.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, I just went.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
I just went silent and was like, in my mind,
it was like the Hags were like my best friends, okay,
and they're like all I have to do is like
call them. I don't have to say shit, and they
know where I am and they know what's happening, and
they get to like peek around. And then I was
like okay, okay, you gotta go. And it was pretty spectacular.
That was a real bonding with the Hags. So said,
(55:25):
I missed it, and then I didn't post it. I
just oh, damn, it's just you know, but I think
it's archived somewhere if I want to like like check
it out.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Vable well, I we're going to get a renew renew
is going to outfit us renew and the row together
at last, but we get the.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Cameras set up.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
I think every episode of Pood could be a fashion demonstration.
Absolutely imagine clamoring people, clamoring brands, designers, clamoring to send.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
The outfit of the week.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Oh wow, I really missed you, really miss Poog. I
want to thank everyone who is still here hanging on
and I'm still working on that mailing list situation.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You can sign up with the usual link. IM all right,
love you bye, I love you. That was Poog.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
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Speaker 3 (56:31):
And iHeartRadio Podcasts. Creative and hosted by Kate Berlin and
Jacqueline Novak.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Executive produced by Lyra Smith, Edited and mixed by Ali Graham,
Music by Theta Hammil artwork by Robert Baty.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Follow Poog on Instagram at Poog podcast, or on TikTok
at this is Poog.
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is Poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two
obsessive freds.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is poog. Today's topics looselie speaking, velvet slipper, black, honey.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Home sona.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By the way, we're back, We're back, We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And by the way, I went live from the Emmys. Okay,
that was a gift. I went live with the Hags
from the Red Carpetlah. I will say, should that ever
happen again a rerun situation, we would just I was
thinking about, we just go live on Instagram together.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We just do live for however long we can manage.
You mean, as a as an apology for.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Essentially as a replacement. Yeah, like they get twenty minutes live.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
By the way, I mean, everything's fine. I can only
imagine when people worried. You know, everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, well, it's also important people don't realize
that technically Poog is seasonal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There are seasons. This is like a TV show.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's interesting and ultimately they're going to have to realize that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Next season is not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I love when you threaten the end. It's important because
this isn't no, no, nothing's guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's an odd thing for particularly, I mean like talk
about not just scarcity, but like as an artist, you know,
if it's just guaranteed, like I don't know, like like yeah,
I know, we talk about it like it's just life.
But I love to just threatening how could end at
any time?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I do let to threaten it, but it literally could sell.
Congrats on what you get, and just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So everyone knows. I think this does add an element
of suspense. I do get text from Jack cons sometimes
when she says we're quitting or she's like you've been
like you're like a couple.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Of times it's been like like let's end it, like
it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We end it, like you know, it can it can
still exist like another forms like you know, okay, maybe
we tour you know a year, yeah yeah, yeah, or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, it's not I need everyone to know it's not
going anywhere and we're going to be bigger and better
and brighter.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well no, but that's what I'm trying to say is
that I think ultimately we need to be able to
promise seasonally, okay, because then at the end of the season,
whatever that is for us, it's like opec, we can
decide if it's continuing. I just think to go like
for the next ten years every Tuesday, this is coming out, like,
(02:35):
I think it'll lead to issues. I think we also
want to be able to have a spirit of the
season where we go like here we go season whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Of course, of course, and they'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Like remember season four, you know or whatever. Several ideas
floating around at the point is nothing's guaranteed in this life.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
All may pass.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Away, and that's the fucking truth. But I'll tell you
one thing that is guaranteed in this life. You're bemte Listen.
Imagine me at the grocery store the day before yesterday, ravenous,
freaking out, grabbing snacks, eating them, going I need coffee
midday slump. I stroll past the Yurba mante this is
(03:14):
the jarred what's this brand? Yeah, it's bottled. Is it
Yurba or is it actually RBA? I don't fucking know.
I don't know about tea, Okay, but here's the point.
Unsweetened traditional this will get your rocks off. There's nothing else.
It's just good. I was excited.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Also, it was like three dollars versus what my eight
dollar macha.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You know, I wonder if that was the brand that
had the tie in with somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It was like sugar.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Probably they do energy drinks, but then the energy drinks.
Sorry not to be toxic, but we're talking about twenty
grams of sugar. You know, there's no sugar in this,
There's no this is just black.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
This is just tea.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, and the flavor you because like you know, when
you try to you're not saying. You're not saying this
is instead of coffee in your life. No, no, no, no,
I'm just saying, but unexpected. My beverage world is quite limited.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You know. It's like water, coffee, saltzer.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You just go time for some water. Now in the day,
how do you how do you remember to drink fertility
struggle or my my, oh when you're swallowing a pill,
No my yeah, my fertility jug just flew out. But
my my, my sippy cup. Oh your fertility mug.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, I call it fertility mug because I got that
water bottle when I was freezing my eggs because it
was like, you need to be drinking two liters of
water a day.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And I was like, fuck this.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I see these women, the trad wife, the tidwife, sippy cup. Yeah,
I see these women out here with this, and I
go join the ranks of them. Yeah, and that thing
is at my.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Side, tradwife, sippy cup, fertility mug.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it's at my side all day, every day.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, but listen. Yeah, and I got one too. It
freed me to get one. I got one way, you
got one? Well, I went to Backcountry at the Grove
you know store. I'm horrified to say, I don't sort
of like Moderne Ri. I kind of vibe you different
brands from there. Yeah, it is incredible, and I won't lie.
(05:11):
I was recognized on the way into the store and
someone working there hag huge.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It was un believable.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The hags are infiltrating all areas when they speak out.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Changing the day. Yeah, it really does give a give
a boost.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But that Country, Oh, I went in there and then
I was like, yeah, I want one because I drive
now and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wait, stop stop everything you're driving.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I've finally just like gotten the hag. When did you start, Like,
I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, maybe, I
mean mostly it's just like so I can go to Tracy,
you know, like in the morning without so you're driving yourself. Yeah,
And I said, how does it feel great?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Were you scared the first few times? No, it was
just like you driving is something. It's making me laugh,
something about you behind the wheels.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, the joke is like me. The joke is like,
I've driven all over this country. I grew up in
the suburbs drive. So it's just that we got in
this habit of like me not driving in Los Angeles,
and then it just felt like I was today the day,
like right, I don't know, it just sort of got
in this habit and then I love it. It's fun
(06:27):
and I've always experienced a mood lift in the car.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The car is a huge choice, like even like.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Real depression, if you just get on the road, you
get your ass on the road, like driving like drive, drive, drive,
the music.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Going, Oh yeah, it's it's huge.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Driving is so interesting because you're at either side, like
the Brits, you know, over on the right side or
the left side. I think it's weird. It's weird to
operate something not from the dead center. Think about that,
you know what I mean? Yeah, doesn't seem like the
driver's seats should be Oh no, look I did it
doing the thing like this is my microphone.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh she's holding the let my mic was this it
operating out from the center.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh yeah, it doesn't seem like it should be from
the center, and that like in that side you would
just be totally slamming into things so natural.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Completely it is crazy. It's weird in the center. And
then guess what you can fit a person on each side?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, I have a lot of ideas for uh oh god.
It reminds me and someone I think reached out. But
I really need like a technical drawing type person and
for my patents, because I have some products that are
not even nothing even splashy about them. They're just the
kind of thing where like no one noticed that we
needed them, and like we need them, and I'm just
(07:47):
gonna change them and I'm gonna be rich. Actually I
won't be the product ideal immediately taken.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If you build a mechanism, it's so hard to say anyway,
the add.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
My uncle asked me, I should if I was gonna
bite the bullet, get medicated to the dock.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For add Yeah. Oh, because I forgot you never made
a call. Oh yeah, full diagnosis, the whole full monty honey.
But not for fifteen years, right right and classic add fashion.
I got the number called, the woman left a message
or almost did, and they just never.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Pursued it beyond that. But yeah, I can feel this
in The seasons are shifting. Something is in the air.
Do you feel this well?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Seasons shifted as of today. To me, that's the first
day I felt and noticeable anything.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The other day. Put on a sweater, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I cracked open, and by open, I mean on and
fred heater outside.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Let the dust burn off.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I've been afraid for two years to turn it back
on because I let it get filled.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
With like dust. Wait the lightlight? No, no, just.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure Boo has some'mwhere
to be cozy right anyway, go on?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, just just the seasons that we need. The seasons
were guided by them. It actually is essential.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
The weather. It has to reflect the interior and vice versa.
It's like a it. We need it. Change.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We need to, We need to be nudged into new
into new moods and realities. And I can feel it
and I'm doing full new life now. Ceremony, Back on armor,
back on vitamin D. Vitamin D every day, I'm deficient
as we all are or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, but
then you got to be careful. See this has when
all spirals right, Vitamin D. Oh, I'm deficient.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Take vibin D.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You have to regularly take like five hundred a day,
but then like three months you have to go check
and make sure you're not overdosing, because if you have
too much vitamin D, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Anything where there's a risk of overdosing is where I go.
I guess I'm not getting it because I can't manage.
You know, the poison is the dose or whatever they say. Yeah,
remind me to tell you I had an explosive facial
with Johanna Check, so let's get into that at some point.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, remind me, just go right in.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I also finally went to Kosha Spa to what and
I got lymphatic dream image at a rikari. Okay, wait,
hand on, slow down. What's Kosha Spa? Were we offered no, no, okay,
you're paying out of pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, yeah, well you go to the SPA next week
with me five four three two decision you goriage decision.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
With a countdown, please, I mean, yeah, but I'm just
trying to think because I'm finally getting back in my
routine after.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You know, too bad, you have to go with me,
it's essential. I'm just saying, why, why isn't it the weekend.
I'm not good enough for your weekends? The weekends?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Tell those so crowded, right right? You don't want to
go to puss About on the weekend?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
What other fucking uncles there? I want to go somewhere?
I don't, I don't know, but yeah, I mean I'm
looking for that kind of experience. Although I did hear
about a spa in Palm Springs. That's like brand spanking new,
I think. And so it's just something nice about when
you're like, I'm a third person in this bath, spend
the night.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Maybe let's reach out what they call let's go listen
in folks listen in.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But wait, I yeah, so I've essentially had three premium
poog experiences, you know what I mean, Like in the
sense of but I paid. It was all and I'll
say it again pre Emmy's desperation.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Where you go? You said you got buckle massage. Yeah, Kosha,
I've been dying for that. What's Kosha? Kosha?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've sent you a bunch and I've recommended it on
this podcast. People have gone as a result. They got
there before even I got there. So Kosha, she has
an Instagram account, she's blonde. She does face massage, you know,
and then she shows doing it in her studio. Kosha
spa on Instagram. And so I wanted to go in
for a very long time and I went in. It
(11:38):
was with a different practitioner, but anyway, I went in there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It was heavenly.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I kind of like fell asleep essentially. I mean, while
their saw them is in your sheet. It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Loved it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
The environment was really quite nice, I mean, which isn't
always a case. And I don't even mind when the
environment is sort of whatever, as long as once around
the table with the environment was quite lovely.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Loved it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Not much to say Juanna check who I've followed for years.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is huge.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I was like nervous to meet the facialist because
she was a celebrity facialist. She was just suggestion everything
you could hope for. Oh yeah, I got suggestions, all right.
It's like what like what like what I mean? I
got major wisdom. I mean, first of all, she was
so cool, you know what I mean. Yeah, you'll see her,
(12:28):
you'll go, oh okay, yeah, like there's a a two
silver massager.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Like that's very classic her.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
She she just I was immediately at ease because did
you find her?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, to be clear, I know, I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
I was gonna say, I feel like I have seen
her before yeaheah.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I think she's like does she have thick black
rimmed glasses yep, yeah, and like blonde hair. And it's
just I was immediately at ease. And I get on
the table and this is like a classic thing, the
whole idea of like the facial before. You know, it's
this thing where it's like two to three days before
the enemies, and so there's this like it's like the
(13:11):
wedding thing with the facial It's like, well, normally maybe
I'd go after this or that, but this close to
the thing, you don't want to do anything too wild.
Take a risk, and you know my sort of sense
of always wanting everything to be extreme. Like I'm almost
like it, you know what I mean, like like do it.
I don't care if like you've you know, land popped
(13:33):
on my face. Yeah, like just like almost I'd rather
have the injury than the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Problem, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Like, but I trusted her whatever, and she was like
over my face, like she's like while she's doing things,
she's like almost whispering, like extensive scientific knowledge. Okay, extensive okay,
what like what she was? I think against the prescription retinoids?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, I love to hear this.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'm breaking in with a quick thing.
I got a facial two days ago. I've talked about
retinoids on the podcast. How dare I have a podcast
even pretending to about tective to beauty or wellness?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I myself are not on them. Yeah. I made
the decision. I'm doing it. And guess what, my germ, my.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
My facialists I really trust, gave me a veen, the
drug store French brand.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, retinal you know it's like mixed in with the cream,
non prescription straight. Yeah, just chiming in to say that
I'm planning on starting tonight. Okay, go, well, yes, exactly.
So she's explaining in this glorious flood of the retinoic acid,
you know what all these things are made of, Vitamin A.
Vitamin A is the first thing. Vitamin A.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
When it hits the skin, it turns into the retoic acid,
which okay, h two ls wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, like that's two kids.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And I'm like hoping that she knows how much I'm
enjoying it and how much I want more and like
doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm like loving it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So anyway, she's like the retinoic whatever, the prescription one.
I don't know if she said it was too drying
or too irritating or something, but it was like I
believe it. Yeah, like it's irritating or almost. Like so
she's she believes in these other ones. And then the
other thing that's really cool about her is she's like
she has products. And I got like a travel like
(15:22):
a really nice set of products in a gorgeous travel
bag like that. I was like, I might use this
as a purse, and like the only other people who'll
know are the other people, Like, like it's stunning okay, yeah, anyway,
but she has products, you know, but she's like, I
don't believe in lines like you know, in a skincare
and line, like, I believe in individual products like and
(15:45):
she even pushes and recommends things that are not the
Joanna chick.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So at the end, she's like she's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Laying out different things and different things I might be
interested in or whatever, and she's talking and They're all like,
all these products are laid out, and I'm like, well,
what would it be if I was getting everything or
like you know, like, well what do you have, like
do you have the placenta drops or whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yea, yeah, She's like yeah, she goes, she goes yeah,
but it's so expensive. Yeah, And I'm like how much okay,
and she's like two hundred dollars and I'm like, uh,
for the for the face of my dreams, people have
gone they go seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I've and I've had people say four point fifty
okay for the same amount or less product.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The straight face right, totally, so totally. I just thought
it was elegant and fucking cool. The people's facialists and
not just act like you know, and then and then
she's like and I'm like, and what about like the
other products, the ones you were recommending, like the vitamin A,
the particular C like you know her CE And she's like, oh,
this is a very affordable brand. It's called Environ. And
(16:48):
it was like all these Environ products this is and
I was like, ring me up, okay, ring me And
then she wrote she wrote down for me, like the
plan like morning night. Can I just I mean I
think so. But the headlines were I mean, it was
essentially it was a oh so. One of the big
things was, you know she has a toner. But a
(17:11):
toner anytime water touches the face, okay, washing whatever, whatever
it is, you know, toner instantly to reset the pH
of the skin.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
That is like if you strip away that pH, good luck.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you mean like once you once water's there, you
have to meetly apply something else you're saying.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, like like after you shower, after you cleanse whatever. Yeah,
it's like you strip some of the acid or I
think that you actually need. It's like the face is
supposed to be like slightly acidic or something. Yeah, you must,
and which you know makes sense to me. I mean
I've been using variety of essences and toners and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, I'm addicted to now the snail musin in the
spray bottle? Which one is that I'm on my second bottle.
It's costs r X.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm trying to picture it. It's like sixteen bucks and
it's I can sort of see it in my head.
Is it actually slightly thinner then the other one that
they have in the pump bottle?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
So here's what's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
When it hits my face, it feels a little bit thinner,
But when I'm looking at the bottle, it's thick in there.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So this is a huge question of like can you
force anything through an atomizer essentially spray?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I know, yeah, I mean I've tried and failed at times.
I've gone with something too thick, but wow, congrats.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So yeah, I was just I was really really just
lit up from within with her knowledge and her entire style,
and it was just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I'm going to be diving deeper into her world.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I do that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I do Kosha and I did lymphatic drainage at rick Haari.
Did we talk about that place?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I don't think so? Okay, sounds familiar. I got a
wreck from a dear friend, Tracy Anderson.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No it wasn't. It wasn't Tracy. I got a wreck,
and I was like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So psychologically, here's what I experienced about Red carpet preparation. Okay,
I think this is a notionan, I think this is interesting.
So I felt pressure to Oh God, what am I
supposed to be doing? There's all this stuff I'm supposed
to be doing to prepare for the Red carpet?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Right now? Why did I feel that way?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Our entire lives were reading in the magazines, here's what
the stars do to get ready for the Red Carpet,
And it's always it's the most extreme, and it's suggested
as kind of the most extreme, like more extreme than
even these wedding type things. Right, It's like you want
to do what they do because like it's like almost
like looking good is their job, Like everything's on the line.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So and it's the Red Carpet.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's the the biggest deal we have, you know, and
so you're like I was almost like, oh shit, there's
stuff I'm supposed to be doing. Of course, almost like
if I'm not emphatically drained and everyone else is well.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I just look like a pile of lymph up there,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, So it's just, you know, it's just like anxiety
and like kind of like I'm wanting a spot experience
and having like a you know, that'll be fun whatever.
So in I went, and it was a humongous machine.
I took photos and a huge machine. They move it
and they move the limb all over your body and
I want to hear results. They carve you out and
it cost hundreds. It cost hundreds.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Did you see a difference?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Who knows, But it's the one where you get into
the white smock body stocking. How many hundreds I can't
totally remember because four.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It feels like it was at least.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Four, because I don't know if that's like a turning
point for me, if something like still within the realm
of three hundred, yeah, I can almost be like, well,
that's practically like a two hundred dollars dinner that I
overspent at or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, Like but like four, you're like I start getting
into like, oh rent it, yeah, totally totally. Fuck. You're
reminding me of a bill I have to pay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I still get alert at my phone that says like
your account has more than one two hundred and forty
five dollars that I set up like or like a
million years ago when I first was in New York
and I just wanted to make sure I always had
my rent money in my account. Yeah, yeah, as though
that was enough, but I was just scared of dip below. Yeah, anyway,
still get it. Maybe it's time to update it for.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
A love that you still have your eleven fifteen alarm.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Something that I'm ready to really bag for. And I
don't know if you're interested in this too.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I think I want a sauna. Well, here we go.
What do you mean couldn't you? It's a huge question
because can't I do it in the back patio?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Do you want one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Sure do well, because it's the size of like, well,
there's a few things here.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Here's the fear, right, so be sacrificing precious outdoor space
as we all would be.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And then do I use it once every two months? Right?
Like this is the fear?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Or it's like you use it once every day for
two months and then never again exactly one bird drops
something on it and it's over.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, No, I want to get into this hardcore. I
want to get into this hard core.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So obviously, if you're getting that, you're gonna need the
cold Plunge next to it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
We'll see, this is where we go, this is where
we fuck. By the way, I've seen where you live.
You have the space.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Ooh yeah, so I'm thinking there's a little area that
I am like, fuck. By the way, I'll go further.
I could technically even fit the cold punch. But then
you're looking at fucking astronomical price.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
So listen.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I have a fancy friend. Okay, she has an at
home SNA really nice. In my mind, I go, is
it fifteen K? Right?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I was like, how much is it? I go home,
look it up. You looked up a specific ones under
six K. I want to be clear, it's still very expensive.
Did you notice here's my question? Did you look at
the brand?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That was like, like, did you essentially clock the brand
when you were in the friends thing and go home
and google? Or did you ask no, no, no, I
clocked it fully. I was like, huh, and what was
the brand? Because I'm thinking it's.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Rerand new ri and or hang on, let me look
at this round. I'm seeing renew sauna.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, one for one or for two? Is it a
social experience? It's got to be for two, right, You've
got to do two because otherwise what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I want to be in there with my lover. I
want to be in there with my friends. Yeah, yeah,
it's okay. Right here, I'm looking two people we're looking
at It's basically six khundred and fifty four weird number.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Ray New Therapy. Are you looking at the one that
looks like a barrel? Yep? The Zeno barrel home sauna handsome? Yep.
I cant held on its, honey, I'm just laughing like this.
I saw one of these in my back patio, like
in my apartment complex. Like it was just charge charge people.
So here's a question. What does it run on? Okay,
(23:38):
So here's the reason why I feel empowered to do this.
Will confused.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
The little area in my backyard that has like a
power thing, like I think you just plug it into it.
I don't know these answers. Okay, let's look here, all.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Right, how much I'm wondering how much? And this is
I know this is relevant because everyone posts these questions.
It's like they all want to know you know, because
by the way, you see some cold plunges that look actually,
I'm going to go head to Amazon the cold Plunge.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I think that's where I kind of draw a line.
I go, I don't know, another stage in life. If
money is no object, why is Why do you think
the cold plunges is so cold? Punch is more expensive?
Well not if you not if you do it right,
look at the.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Look at this fucking ship. Not if you get the barrel.
The thing is the plastic barrel.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, but it's like I'm just looking at Amazon for
fun okay, and for real plunge magic Okay, it's inflatable,
so yeah, that's like a balloon, but six hundred dollars okay.
Then they seem like this this barrel cold plunge tub
ice bath. I think that's like something you there's a
big tub of water and then you drop that thing
(24:40):
in and it makes it cold.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You want to you want to tell me they're not
going to give us this. Well, here you guys, renew
we do a renew Oh, a renew arian renew Is
that what they want?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean it must be. I'm seeing the black cold Plunge. Yeah,
it's beautiful leak. Look a wooden top.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I also I went to after you did, I went
running to pause. This was part of my my prep.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I went in there. I did a sauna cold plunge.
By the way, I might be I might be going
to pause tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Oh my god, they're open at night. Yeah, you were
like the receptionist a hag. And I went in there,
like like which location, like West Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I guess Judio City is the hag. Okay, good to know, Cooper,
I believe shout out. So the cold, stoic, hysterical. That's
my way.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Imagine imagine thousand dollars. Yeah, me calling pause to make
a clear pause? Is a chain spaw experience in Los
Angeles maybe other cities.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know. They do sauna cold plunge float experiences whatever. Chea,
Okay they do. I got an ivy drip there. I
felt like a shot.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I got a shot of something as but yeah, oh no,
it wasn't be twelve it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Was I forget. Yeah maybe, but but they you know,
it ain't cheap, but it's nice and I will go
there and you know, but.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Imagine having it in your home. The ability to saugn
a cold plunge. Shit, let's just think about this. Let
me just think about this, think about it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean, well, here's the question. Here's the question. Right,
you go, we're getting it, We're getting in the body.
You can feel it. Really. Yeah. Because by the way,
listen to me, Listen to me. Let's call it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's almost twenty thousand, it's almost twenty grand. Okay, they're
going to do it, by the way, it's actually it
has to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Now, we need to see if they are currently if
they have any partners. So what I'm saying, do they
have a Instagram presence, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The renew God, imagine it? How often though, let's talk
about it. If there's a not a cold plunge. So
at first you're doing it, yeah, constantly, Yeah, and then
what happens? I think if you can do it three
times a week, it's worth having in your home.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
How do you feel about that? Certainly? My question is this,
Oh my god, see, I'm going so fucking I'm going
so like cosmic with this. Where I'm going if I
have this, you know, everything changes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Dropping into breathing where yeah, yeah, this is gonna be
the time that it's just you know, returning to the
self because I'm going I have to slow down the guides.
I'm not quiet enough for the guides to enter me,
for them to just give me their messages. I'm going
way too fast.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've relapsed. I have Instagram on my good phone. Is
everyone hearing this? I have Instagram on my good phone.
Instagram is on my phone. I'm fucked.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I have to take it off. Yeah. I've been struggling
with that a little bit. You go in there thing,
you see other stuff, and so hell, they actually have
to give us the free systems. That's like this, we're
going to pay. I'm so fixated. I'm seeing it. I'm
seeing a life of it.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So I just want to play this out right, because
there was a period where I'm trying to think I
would do the higher dose blanket.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, we had that going right, h I still have
it right now. It's full it up on your money too, Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
In a moment of chaos of like, you know, get
it out, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm
going I could be doing my own sweat in front
of even the infrared heater I have of several Okay,
if you're doing red light combo plus infrared sweat and
then getting a cold tub. I could be doing that, okay,
(28:23):
oh god, and having you know, getting the results. So
this is like the classic question. This is like buying
the fucking drum set, the full drum set, hoping that
will force you to you know, get get do the drums.
And then it's like, you know, know, what you need
is like the drum pad and the two sticks and
see if you can bring yourself to do it for
(28:43):
five minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's so I'm just now.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I also believe the purchasing things is one of the
only rituals well you have left, okay, and I'm modern
ritual of I don't know, you know, it's that's all
we have, right, So perse go I purchased, you know,
like I'm in an energetic exchange.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Let's be with this slip liner today. By the way,
walking by part of the reason I was late to
pood today.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Not only is she late, she's gone. She just disappeared.
She knocked her camera. She's gone. I think she did
something with the flipliner. I'll take this moment to do
a bit of reading. Oh she's in the lobbying a letter.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
In Hello, she's back. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So you did it at Alipliner today talk about energetic exchange.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So today I'm walking by. I already started a book.
Oh you were gone?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, okay, okay, going in the sales experience, right,
we talk about this endlessly.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Where'd you go in? I can't see the show. I
knew it was Credo. Yeah, I don't know why, but
I just knew. You went to Creto.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, I went into Creto. I was walking walking. I
walked by Blue Mercury because I go, I want a
new press powder. I go, Bloo Mercury. I keep walking.
I go, you have to leave by the way two
hags on the street or hags. I go, oh my god,
I'm late to go record with Jacoline. It was it was,
you know, I go buy Credo. I go, you got
a minute? You know it's you want. You're not browsing.
I go in there press powder. Anyway, The point is,
(30:12):
why do you want press powder? Shine for my purse?
Shine purse? But really like you look yourself and go shiny.
I get very shiny, and I do a loose powder,
like if I'm going out to my makeup, loose powder,
pup pup up. I'll do a setting spray, and I'm
usually fine, but like, particularly in the daytime because I'm
(30:32):
doing like Ilia skin serum. I have sunscreen on quite
f and I powder it and close it down, and
I want the little compact.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
With the mirror.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I want to be able to open it and look
at myself a little on the tea on the te zone,
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, so I'm in there. This woman is helping me.
She is very beautiful, she has unbelievable makeup. She's fucking young.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, she's maybe hmm, it's almost uncomfortable, like I think
she may have been like twenty three, honestly. And I
suddenly felt, by the way, what's uncomfortable because I felt
like lecherous or something like there's no way I wasn't
behaving in that way up but something.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
About it, like I hate little girl.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I felt like I was like a perverse old man
having like someone sell me a car and being like yeah, yeah,
like I.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't know, like I felt like and she she had
amazing ting up on. Yeah, well she had amazing I
loved her lip color.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We're talking about powders, and she's kind of like She's
like she's kind of like cool and like kind of
checked out and like she like doesn't fucking care and
like or something which draws me in, and I go,
I'm crowning.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh yeah by the end. So then it was your
first little like joke you made. Essentially it was visual.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I just felt myself just being crazy with my face
and you kind of laughed h and I go, oh yeah,
So I go, I love your lip color and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
She like that, yeah, I get ready. I'm like, what
did you what did you? Yeah? I felt my eye.
I love those lamps, and I just felt weird. She
takes me over.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
She showed me the slipliner very similar to her color
I have. I'm just like sold right, I'm like I'm
getting it. And it was like it was like because
of her, she sold it to me. She was to
me not a good sales person.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I say that with love. She wasn't, but or was she?
Because there's nothing worse. Okay, you can relate to this.
Went into a store the other day. I hate it
when they when they they come for you, when they oh,
when they come for you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I had a full come for which was having an
explosive morning with the community.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
We took this long walk. We're good to that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm talking to this guy. Oh you know she makes
the best and panadas. Oh my god, they sell out
by now. And we're having so much fun right.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
By all the time limit to give me meaning to life.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, going exactly, going into stores i'd never been before,
having fun. This guy goes, we just opened a new store,
brand new. It's our grand opening, grand opening, very stressful
time for a shop.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, so you want to go to support. We're eating,
we're finishing up, our food will come in after. Okay.
They were on me okay, oh no no, and they
were the guy that had brought you in in the bus, right,
so sweet, yeah, wish the business the best. No, but
I was checking. It was the same person.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, no, no, same no, And it was before and
they're showing you every item and it was like samples
of this, samples of that, and wait, what kind of
store was it?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Or you don't want to say, because.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The beauty products alongside some home objects, Oh my god,
high price point. Okay, boo a tik boutique. But so
so this woman today with the lip pencil, she kind
of seemed a bit inconvenienced by me.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It was empty. It was like no, right, we never
got to it right her, she seemed she seemed was better.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Her failed technique worked because I actually and it was
aspirational because she.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Had her makeup was amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
You wanted to impress her or like something, and it
was like I was buying the limp pencils she had on.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It was like it worked.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I was like hot girl, like I wanted to Yeah,
like it worked, and I really did feel like standing
next to her, she was like I like this one.
She was like yeah, I like this one too, like
like yeah, kind of like a darker right, And then
I was kind of like being like a girl with her.
I was like, yeah, like I have one just like that,
like the We're over at the checkout and she was like,
(34:15):
I love your purse and I was.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Like, I'm fucking in bitch, yeah. And I did it
like you mean like the house.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, I'm like in her eyes sixty five hunchback like
like lipstick on a pig, like like oinking my way
back to my car.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But by the way, it felt so fucking good. It
really worked. I felt transformed by the purchase. I was
like in the car, putting it on in the in
the little mirror, and I was like, I love this color.
It fucking worked twenty five dollars for a new life.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I mean, this is this is part of the trouble
at Sephora, right, It's like a multi world's problem. It's like, okay,
so it's like, so you have and you have like
a lot of brands in there, right, and you go
to one brand's shelf and you've got you know what
seems like every color lipstick in the world. Okay, yeah,
and then you walk over to another shel different brand,
every color lipstick in the world. Right, So you're going, okay,
(35:16):
could I, in theory find this pink over in this
other brand? Right, Like you're very aware of that fact
versus the makeup counter. Back in the day, you had
to buy into the brand that you wanted to go
look at first, Right, you gotta go, you know what,
I'm going to the Chanelle counter.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Right, You're like a stay louder. Oh my god, wait, sorry,
this is okay, it's bringing in was that here it
the whole time? No?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh my god, okay, Because I was yearning for a
Celsius and there weren't any of the fridge and then
one disappeared.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Amazing. Okay, so look at people, Oh shit, God, that
does sound good. Damn doing an aduava.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
By the way, Celsius, to be clear, sent us palettes
of Celsius, so shout out, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, and we got through them and now I'm back,
huge shout out.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I think there were some new flavors in there, and
imagine Celsius x poog.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Wait, hold on, but I'm not done. So you go,
you know what, I'm going to Chanel? Okay, by the way,
we go, you go like, well, let's go to the
mac counter and you're like, if you.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Could have a beauty, if you could have an endorsement,
you could be the face of a beauty brandmother to
be makeup brand.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
My Chanelle, your's a Chanel.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I love Channel makeup. I just do.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And I know it might be like made with rat poison.
When I was a teenager, it locked me and it's
a team sprung for this. As a teen someone said
like that the I forget how because I wasn't. I
wasn't over there, but then I somehow ended up over
there and I got not. I believe I've talked about this,
but it was this sort of shimmery kind of brightish
(37:15):
blue liqu no liquid wand eyeshadow, and we built I
say we like I think I was like at the
mall with my mom and it was like there was
some kind of dance and I'd gotten this gold kind
of a burnished gold on kids on kids dress kids
kids an kids, I mean, you know, just above the
(37:37):
knee and it's very like felt very like like Juliette,
like almost like a lace or some kind of pattern.
It was just it was gold, and it was like, well,
what's the you know, what's the dress? And and then
it was like, well this blue And the idea of
blue eye shadow was always sort of treated as like
kind of like a joke or something, you know what
I mean, like a blue eye shadow.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Like, but I was like, no, this is like a
beautiful you know, and like with the gold.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And then I remember also being like talking about the
brows and like something with the brown like they framed
the face. I feel like it was like an early
live experience on the whole, like the brows. You know,
if you get the brow right, you know, everything else
falls into place, and I think it's probably one of
those things that I never felt so beautiful, like meaningfully
put it together, choice by choice. This is actually relevant
(38:26):
also to the ammies. Okay, and then why this is
an issue and so forth. I want meaningful choices otherwise
it could be anything, right, everything has to mean something.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And so how do you do it? This is a
marketing lesson, folks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, so they used to do it by naming the shades.
That was their first attempt. Oh right, yeah, I mean
and what you flip it over, you know, and it's
ballets slippers.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, black honey clinique. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, honey, that
was That is Julia Robertson's stepmom. That is her passing
the lipstick. She lights up. Mommy gave me the entrance
into womanhood. The doors have been flung open.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
She brings down the mirror, puts on the black honey
lipstick that color, let me tell you. And that was
something it took off on TikTok or something in the
last couple of years. Yeah, it was like sold out.
You couldn't get it because the teenagers that like preteens,
were going crazy for it. That black honey that had mystique,
this mystical property to it. Yeah, and then I'm just
gonna say this. A few months ago, I'm standing in
(39:33):
a in a half circle a beautiful woman. Okay, shocking
famous there, I said it, hugely famous. Mid conversation, pulls
out black.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Honey and you could tell you could see it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I knew it instantly, and I go, that's branding.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Did you say black honey? Or yeah? I actually did? Close? No,
I know I did.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm gonna lookup right now if you can even fucking
buy it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's sold out in every country.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Sorry to bring up the enemies again, okay, but I
just want to say, like it.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Was, it was twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, I still have a love of clinique, like like
just a spiritual love of clinique.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's genius. It's called I'm sorry, but they call it
almost lipstick. Yeah. That's by the way. You can get
this ship on Amazon. That's crazy. You gotta be careful.
I mean, that's what I'm not getting. That's the rumor.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, you want to experience. You don't want it floating
like rapist sexlessness. Imagine something more depressing than buying makeup
on Amazon, except sometimes you got to and sometimes sometimes
you got to. And sometimes the fact that Amazon carries
something that you didn't think it would, I know, they
shock us. I mean, Chris, we ordered a suit overnight. No, yeah,
(40:47):
no sign Amazon side came. No, he slips it on,
perfect fit. Okay, they had length and you know, like
all the different iterations of what how it all? That's
like wild men's suits are like chaotic sizing.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And I was like, I'm doing it because like I'm
buying buck honey right now, keep going.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I am like King of Remember when I got the tuxedo.
We've got the tuxedo and at our last minute before
an event, and then we got that tailored.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
New War to the Emmys. Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I spent weeks doing brick and mortar, by the way
for his shoes. And it was another thing about the
meaningful thing.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It was about we're getting Okay, we're doing the Bana
Republic talks because that's what we have. We're gonna find
meaning and like we're going to use this as an
opportunity to get an exciting shoe.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh yeah, you see what I mean. Oh yeah. It's
like so we get into this idea, our friend Paul's.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Like, look at a pair of farragamos, you know the
last thirty years, right, Oh my god, so you go, okay,
here we go. He's given me meaning right, oh yeah yeah,
And I'm like, okat we have faaragamas and like whatever.
And he like sends me a picture of like his
like old farra gamos that like you know, are still
kicking right beautiful, and I'm like, yes, yes, yes, okay.
(41:55):
We literally Nemans sacks. We went to those ones in
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Another honey.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Even Marcus, Oh my god, do I tell you in
four days when I was talking about the name and
Marcus in the past episode and how there was no
Ac and it was fucking shocking.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh, your shoes are still sixteen hundred dollars, there's no Ac. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Somebody who worked at the North chums DM. She's a
hag sorry that worked at Demons.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
What section working at the road and meet them working
at the Row and this to call out to the Row.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
We need the Row to completely outfit Jacolin and myself.
Thank you. What goes without fucking saying yeah okay, but
wait keep going?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
No, so did you get the breaking water experience, multiple trips, Okay,
sizes the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What are we getting pat and leather? Then you go,
what is a tuxedo?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I start to go like, what's what are the shoes?
All this thing? It's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
They don't have the size, And so we go down
the oh and we've decided like we're spending it, like
that's going to be the thing. We're spending money on
nine hundred and fifty dollars for a Farragamo shoe. Yep,
it was a It was such an intense like endeavor
and like the sizing and this is where brick and
mortar fails. And it's like they act like the fact
like well, we know we can order it to the
store and have it here in nine days.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
We know.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, it's like hey, I know we can in your size.
We can say, and I could drive you know over here.
So whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh. Also, actually, actually I had an experience where so
we went in, we're looking around.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
They don't have the thing. I've researched it extensively online.
This is the thing. I know exactly what's in stock
right and emails or what they have. So we get
to the store.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I go up, I go looking for the exact one
that I'm interested in, you know, and this woman comes
over and is starting to kind of offer help, and
I'm like, thank you, okay, and it's like, do you
have this in the bl blow size? They say no, right,
she goes and checks, comes back as it says no.
Now it begins this kind of well if you're looking
for a nice tuxedo shoe, right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And then just showing me things and it's like I'm
there with a specific thing and I'm not I'm not
just a I'm looking for a tuxedo shoe, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Mean, Like yeah, of course, and then she's sort of
pushing this one and it's like and Chris is like,
like I forgot Chris said, But basically I was like, well,
I'm not I'm not ready, okay.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I was like I was like it was like this
confusing thing like and I just like like I was like,
it was like I just I need a break or something.
And then like I'm like I just need to like
walk around and think. We left.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
We ended up coming back two hours later, okay, and
I had to go in with a fresh attitude because
I was like you know, she might not like me
from earlier went in and we're like, all right, let's
look around. Maybe we can they don't have that, but
we need something fast now. I will go to the
last minute, you know. And you know, Chris is like
four days out and he's like, I don't know shoes.
(44:41):
He's like kind of freaked, you know what I mean,
Like just whatever, Yeah, but I'm like, all right, let's
look at some other brands. Like we're springing for a shoe.
We're like, yeah, like, let's see what else this year
and be find some y SL shoes okay.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
And we're like, oh, We're like that's pretty, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
And I'm like that's that's pretty right, and like into it,
and the whole thing tries it on and I start
sort of selling myself on whatever we like. I'm like
the paragama like I've moved on whatever becomes so intense
on these Laurels, okay. And then we get them and
it's the whole thing with the sizing that she's going
to send us the bigger size to our home, but
we're going to bring home the one that's smaller in
(45:19):
case blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Whatever. We do the whole thing. You know, we're going
in the enemage, oh you know. And then and then yeah, yeah,
and then I get home and my stomach flies into
a knot.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Okay, no, because and I send a picture to Paul
right my friend, and I go, Paul, like the Paragamas
fell apart on us, we got why I sell?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
I go tell me is the quality? Is the quality enough? Okay?
Because I'd forgotten, like it wasn't just like oh, we're
getting the loss forever. And so I go, oh God.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
And then I googled the quality of a Laurent Laurels shoes,
you know, and like, you know, you see some stuff
and you just don't know whatever. And then like he's
not replying right away, I'm like panicking, oh no. And
then like later we got on He's like what I
didn't see it? And I'm like, okay, Paul, I'm like,
we got Laurel. And I'm like, just is that good call?
I's like yeah, I'm like no, but Paul, like the
whole idea is like the Pharagama and the quality like
(46:13):
is it good or is it just like one of
those things where they make it cheap and they you know,
put the name Laurel on. It started panicking, going, Italy
is the only place.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
That can make a shoe. Yeah, go, you're not wrong,
but I go.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You know, I was like, and he's like, if Faragamo
is an A, it's an A minus, but it is
definitely an A minus.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That was his okay, and I breathed.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But then it can't. It came around to them not
being comfortable. They're so pointy the whole thing. We go
back on the hunt for the Paragamas. We decide we
want a velvet Faragama slipper.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Okay, hang on, hang on with thousands of dollars of
shoes are sitting in mining. No no, no, wait, keep going.
This is amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
It's slowly coming back back. You want a Feragama slipper,
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
So we decide fara Gamo, and we decide, I go, Chris,
would you be excited about because he wasn't that excited
about the Laurent technically, and he was excited that it
was a nice shoe, but it wasn't like inherently loving
the shoe.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And I was on this pat and leather kick because
of the just I was.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
And then I'm reading, oh, velvet slipper is a tuxedo,
a nice tuxedo look, and his eyes lit up, okay,
And I was like, I was like, you like this?
And I found the most beautiful, the most beautiful velvet
slipper from Ferragamo. I was like, that's the one. I
knew that's the one, okay. And so then it becomes
a whole hunting for the size, the whole thing. It's
(47:34):
not I order the size overnight from Burgdorfs forget to
click the final button.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
The next morning. I'm going, oh god, okay, I click it.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Then it's like it'll come Sunday morning, the day of
the Emmys, right, I go, fuck, Okay, So we got
that coming. We got the Laurent sitting there. You know,
this is like talk about like a credit card thing,
and just being like yeah, like is it real?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And then and they're not going to come in time.
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We get this other one at the wrong size. I
can't even remember. There were so many trippers on me.
It all comes down to a half hour before we
are leaving for the Emmys. No, no, okay, half far
for the Emmys. The pair in the cric size is
located at stop Nordstrom. I think Chris is showered and
(48:17):
I go, Chris, it's there. I go, Chris, Now, can
you imagine mistakes headed in the other direction? Okay, the
car is going to be there. They come fifteen minutes earlier,
like you know, okay, and he's like, I'll do it,
like knowing the risks. If I still want it to
be done, he's like, he's like, you know, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah. I'm like, uber, there's no time for parking. Okay,
oh my god. He goes. He gets back in time.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
The most beautiful fair slippers, pictures of them on the gram,
slips them on and off we go.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Oh that's fun. I'll have to post them.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
They're so please and now like our life is devoted
to returns, our life is completely going to be held.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
So we're trying to go back to the Laurel and
then the can you wear them out? So you're fine,
Oh yeah, they were only tried on in the house. Amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I think we've got three pairs going back on the
going back on the m three pairs going back. Yeah,
there was because there was an initial, it's like oh
and then I'm sorry, Like like the story is both
like I can't even apologize for story because like it
actually is like to me kind of like it is poog.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
You know what I mean. Yeah yeah, but like of course,
so then like because there's an eight D, like the
hyper focus.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
When I'm able to achieve if you just like leave
me be, when I'm able to achieve in mere minutes
with the flying brain that's coming up with creative options,
it's like amazing, And that's how I pull it out.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
That's how I like your fly research.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
And I was trying to stay Chris, like you do
understand like the levels of research I've done, like speedy research,
Like I know the stock at every store in this country,
like you know, like every shoe, Like it's like and
then and then we realize, like, oh fuck, he doesn't
have a shoe to go with the suit I got
On Amazon, I find an offer up the correct size
of a Ferragamo loafer for seventy dollars from a doctor
(50:14):
in the Hills.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Okay, no, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
And I'm like sending the message this guy, like do
you think they could be worn out tonight? Like they
spiffy enough to be worn out tonight. It's like seventy
bucks or something, and he's like absolutely okay. He's like
they're the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. Okay, whatever
what happened?
Speaker 1 (50:30):
I sent an Uber Okay, I go, I'll vemmo you
now I don't care, like like I'm not afraid. I'll
take the risk, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Like before get him in hand, they send an Uber
package whatever, They scoop him up, they drop him off,
Chris slides his feet into them, and out we go
with a suit from Amazon. This was, you know, like
a night before thing. So now we got two faragaumas,
one used for like seventy bucks.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, that's amazing. And then the full price I don't know,
I just like it was it was.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
You can get some amazing. I'll just say I love
a Manola. Blank, I have a few pairs of Panola's.
I've never paid full price for a Manola.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Now, how are the bottoms when you get him? Good?
And guess what I do resol Okay, well that's what
I was going to say. How much? Not a lot? Right?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It is no, no, very reasonable. It depends a pair. Yeah,
I have a pair of precious.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Manolas that I'm actually going to take to the because
I have a really fancy shoe guy who will basically
take a shoe in. It's like a brainish shoe and
he's fucking expensive, meaning one hundred bucks maybe.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Okay, your shoe better be less than that, but almost. Yeah,
so it can be done. Because I mean, so you.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Could find a because I feel like the bottoms are
the part that buns me out. Yes, I mean because
it was what the actual leather of the top is
going to be fine. It's like the bottom is what
makes you feel like it's an old parachute.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's a beating. Yeah. Total, you get a so you
find like a beat up pear and you bring it
to a coll.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Not a beat up hair even you can find listen,
you know you know what style you want, you know
what size you can find these shoes on. Like they're
they're fine, and by some of them, I'm not saying
they're cheap. You might still be spending two hundred, three
hundred dollars, but it's a Manola and it's in totally
fine quality.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I was lay like at a moment, like see us
from the outside, just like into two microphones, you know
what I mean, Like yeah, you're paying three hundred, but
I mean it's a Manolo for christ sake.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
No, I mean I stand by it. I justn't.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
It's twenty five minutes on going to shoes with me, man,
I know, I know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
I absolutely I love it. I felt like a shiver
of excitement as you said it.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Okay, So I've never had a par of Minola's, although
it's very hard for me to buy.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I mean that would be the gateway in I think
would be the the used pair. But again it's like, well, bang,
a brand new listen. I've pained in a fetishistic way once.
That was very important to me. I feel like we've
talked about oh my sandals product, Yeah, exact product, product
product blues.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Isn't it like that? I remember too? Like that's how
it is? Yeah, And the joy they bring me.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
I think about them every time I walk through this show.
I go, I go, well, Kate went for it with
those those ones. I go, But I'm walking around and go,
am I just gonna spot something?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Again, it's like, how do I if I'm going to
go for it, how do I seduce myself into the purchase?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Like? Am I going to ink act.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yeah, but is it like I could get into the
spirit of I'm gonna go to like whatever is the
greatest store, and what's going to be like cool about it?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Is that I just sort of spot something I like.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I like those in yellow please, you know, to be
in that space that takes a lot. I think I'm
just rubbing this over my face. It's like the glowing thing.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I don't really know why I'm doing it, but yeah,
it's make up.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
But wait, I said, I said not to bring up
the Emmys again, but then I never said the thing,
which is I just don't say, like it was kind
of incredible, okay, because I'm standing there and I go,
oh my god, because it's sort of this waiting around
period going in oh uh huh huh, like on the
red carpet. That isn't like they're not photographing you. You're
just staying there, you know what I mean. Yeah, So
(54:19):
it's like kind of like waiting and just like looking around,
and I go, I should go live for the Hags. Okay,
but it all feels very high stakes to me.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Now, like I feel like I'm in a military complex.
Like I feel like I am like almost like is
it even legal? You know, like right, so like like
intense and serious, like you know, like it's like it
actually feel like this is the most important.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Event in the entire world, you know. I'm like, I
don't do it. I'm like and then I click over
and I hit go live.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
I don't say anything. I don't even turn the camera
like up, like I kind of like it was like
I was like a spy for the Hags.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, I just went.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
I just went silent and was like, in my mind,
it was like the Hags were like my best friends, okay,
and they're like all I have to do is like
call them. I don't have to say shit, and they
know where I am and they know what's happening, and
they get to like peek around. And then I was
like okay, okay, you gotta go. And it was pretty spectacular.
That was a real bonding with the Hags. So said,
(55:25):
I missed it, and then I didn't post it. I
just oh, damn, it's just you know, but I think
it's archived somewhere if I want to like like check
it out.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Vable well, I we're going to get a renew renew
is going to outfit us renew and the row together
at last, but we get the.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Cameras set up.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
I think every episode of Pood could be a fashion demonstration.
Absolutely imagine clamoring people, clamoring brands, designers, clamoring to send.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
The outfit of the week.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Oh wow, I really missed you, really miss Poog. I
want to thank everyone who is still here hanging on
and I'm still working on that mailing list situation.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You can sign up with the usual link. IM all right,
love you bye, I love you. That was Poog.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
If you enjoyed Poog, please subscribe, rate and review. If not,
we will press charges. Poob is a production by Will
Ferrell's Big Money Players.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
And iHeartRadio Podcasts. Creative and hosted by Kate Berlin and
Jacqueline Novak.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Executive produced by Lyra Smith, Edited and mixed by Ali Graham,
Music by Theta Hammil artwork by Robert Baty.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
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