All the Way featuring Trinidad James

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate

(00:03):
the Black Effect Podcast Network is turning five, five years
of powerful voices, unforgettable moments, and a community that keeps growing.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is the power of the platform. Now let's get
into it.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
When a man.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Is leading correctly, life is perfect. When a man is
leading correctly, whatever correctly means to both of you, life
is grand. The big g man, what big r big, big,
fucking deep, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I feel like every time something has gone wrong is
because it was that switch up.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's inevitable, switches worse.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I can speak that because.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And I hate it, because you know, I did do
my research. I believe it, but I don't. I want
to finish you.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Boundaries, but so boom because we are traditionally and you
know doctrine to lead.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
A great leader knows to set boundaries.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
A great leader has to set boundaries. A great leader
has to have vision. Vision allows you to set boundary
because you can see that she's gonna fuck my life up.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Mm hmm, what's up, y'all? It's your girl lex P

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and it's your girl Dre and the call and you
are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Where mind speaks sober thought.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
We gotta guess, we gotta guess today.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Part of all, we have rapper, songwriter, music video director,
creative director, and a fashion god in the building.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know what I'm saying, swag on tea at all times.
We got Sudad James in the building at tea.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Now now you gotta tell them whatever. All of this
is just now off camera.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
So for everybody watching, first of all, it's a blessing
to be here, so you gotta make it here.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
You gotta earn it to be here.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
So I was saying to him, today's just a great
day for me. But also one of the cool things
is I love fun facts. I love fun culture facts.
So you know, we clocking. We started off clocking, and
before we was clocking, everybody was saying, what's that tea?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Right? And we love it.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It's just saying, whether you heterosexual, heterosexual or whatever, it
becomes a part because that's what culture are lingoed.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
It just becomes a part of it.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Right today, this brother got on I G and he
was like, you know where the t came from? He
said one of his old boys, And that's how he
said it to one of his old boys. So told
him that basically the whole idea of what's that tea
it comes from the word information and the word information

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the tea is silent, so it's like, what's the t Like,
I want to know what's really going on. I hear
what you're telling me, but I want to know what's
the tea? And that just blew my mind.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
He first explained to me. I was like, huh, but
I was information is silent.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
If you asked me to spell information after I had
a few of them todd drinks, I'm gonna say s
h u n at the end.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Poured up, she poured up.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, that's an information is.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Colwris will say look down up when.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
She died.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, that's why I gotta know what's the truth.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
But what's the teeth?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay? I love a good fun fact. How are you?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I am blessed, I am busy, I am grinding, and
it's all the things, all the things. To be honest
with you, Like I said to you before we started,
I'm a journey man. So I'm going to travel and
to travel for greatness, not just personal greatness.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Uh. Really good, ol g in minds. He was helping
me want some karate stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Back in the day, he said that you are not
the master of anything that you don't have students in.
And that really struck with me because I was like, Yeah,
for myself personally, yeah I'm great, but like, what about
the people around me? What can I say about them?
What can speak for them? Like the people that's like
consistently around me, and they are a.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Reflection of you.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
If you the boss and all that boss energy that
everybody is, you have to look at the people around
you because they are a reflection of your energy.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
They are a reflection of who you are as a
man or a woman.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
And if your people ain't like you, that is a
reflection of you.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
You are to blame. You can say that, hey man,
I'm showing them what to do.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Nah, bro, they doing what you're allowing them to do
and what you're showing them to do. And mind you
don't getting mistaken. You got some people that's gonna mess
it up and they're gonna do right. It just ain't
gonna do right. But once again, you are not the
master of anything you don't have students in.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
So do you feel like in saying it, do you
feel like we're responsible for the people around us.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
To a certain extent, what I.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Truly do believe is that you are not in control
of your success. You are in control of the momentum
of your success. So you are the developer and the
designer of your eco system, your ecosystem. Ecosystem has everything
to do with the tone that you set and that
attracts the people that.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Come to you.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
People will come to both of you because y'all are attractive,
but people stay because y'all are addictive.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And that's the fag and you ain't right, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So to be able to understand that I wouldever like
But at the end of the day, it's like, Okay,
when somebody get addicted to you or whatever, is like
as time goes it's like, why am I addicted? It
can't just be luss whatever LUSS runs out? You know that, right?
And so to take it back to what you're asking me, like,
I feel that that is a you are in control

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because you set the tone for what you attract.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's so crazy that you are talking about this because
on God, I promise I had a conversation with Beilee
today when I was getting ready and I'm getting ready,
and I was just like, man, I am so uncomfortable
if the people around me are uncomfortable, and I'm talking
my circle, everybody has to be comfortable. There's no way

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I can sit in the things that I'm doing and
feel like, oh well, she on home, they ain't got
shit to do with me. Like I have always felt
like that, like it's my responsibility to put all of
my friends in the greatest position that they can be in.
I'm not, you know, up there, I ain't know you know,
jay Z beyond that, but I feel like if I

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can connect the dot for you, I'm gonna connect them
dots good.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
And it's so crazy that you said that because I
was like feeling like I was feeling like that, like
is that my responsibility though?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
But I'm like, you know what, that's what makes me happy,
like me being in my position but also making sure
everybody around me straight.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know what I mean? Can I ask you a question?
Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
And it's a little bit of a hot take, but well,
actually let me ask you this because you're talking about it,
because I identify what you're saying is.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
A part of it.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Were not your pride, but more of like the competitor
in you is like I want to be like the boss.
I want to be the person that you'all depend on
in my friend's circle. Is that a part of it too?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
You know what is not though, because honestly, I really
feel like because people think that, like I'm the funny
friend whatever, but I'm like, these motherfuckers around me are
way funnier than me. Like I always say that I
do want to kick my feet up, I be wanting
them to be more. I want everybody around me because
as soon as I can kick these little corns up.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So I don't feel like that, I don't feel like
I want to be the leader and it has to
be me, me, me, cause I feel like my light
is always gonna shine.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Like she like Drea is a boss.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Like when we first started Poor Minds, and it was
like immediately once we started making money, she was like, oh, yeah,
I'm starting to use beauty. And it wasn't like I
was feeling like, oh my gosh, Drea surpassing. I was like, yeah, bitch,
I got amused beauty on right now. As soon as
the Marihana chicks come in that, I'm finna kick my
feet up on.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
The music beauty brand trip.

Speaker 7 (09:06):

Speaker 2 (09:07):
When you ain't even gonna have to be on a friend,
I'm going, I don't care, I'm gonna still go. But
I say I have to say no.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I want everybody around like if you surpassed me, hell.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
The fuck you.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I love to hear you say that because I work
with so many, so many women in the line of
business that I do, and it's intentional and I just
really I never realized it until I started working women.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I was like, man, y'all are out for.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Each other and out for each other where it's like boom,
you can get behind it the way you say you
can get behind your friend. But then there's the other
side of it where it's like I am trying to
cut this bitch's throat.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I'm like, whoa.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
What about the hello kitty hours and boyfriend? WHOA not
slit her throat?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Lit her fucking throat.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Women are just very competitive.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
A lot of women, I feel like, are very competitive,
if by nature, but I just don't think that's how
you win in life. Like I definitely think you win
by pulling other people up and helping other people now,
but in saying that, I'm more of the type of
person I will push people around me, but I'm not
gonna push you more than what I feel like you
want to be pushed, because I can't want more for

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you than what you want for yourself. And I think
a lot of the time us as people, when you
love somebody and you care about them and you feel
like they're not living up today full potential, you want
to push them. But if they don't see that for theirselves,
or they don't see their vision for themselves, then sometimes
I kind of feel like you doing it to no
end and you kind of wasting your time to yours.

(10:40):
And yeah, exactly right right now, No, no, I agree
with you.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I agree with you. You really have to. I mean, discernment.
What you said right there. The word that pulls to
me is discernment is so important for you as a boss.
You know, whatever version of a boss you feel you
are to be able to discern are.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You for me?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I am one of my superpowers is being able to
understand when I'm hurting you and you don't realize I'm
hurting you all I got to get myself out of here.
I'm doing you at the service, you know, And that
goes both ways. It can in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's emotional maturity, that is.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
But women don't everything.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm great to everybody, but maybe I do need to
text something like maybe I'm hindering you.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's too great. You're too great too.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
And the thing about it is like the more that
you should never have to talk about greatness because it
shows itself.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I agree that all the time I feel greatness confident.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Why are we talking about greatness.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
If I'm confident and I really feel myself for real?
Do I really got to see here and be like, oh,
I'm so confident all the time.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's quiet and you can feel it in the room.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I saw a video the other day this girl talking
and she was like, that is the number one red
flag of somebody who's always talking about like I'm such
a good person, I'm so this, I'm so that.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I feel like if you are really all of those.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Things, you never we always talk about how people be
like I'm so funny, I'm so goofy, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
For girls be like I'm a girls girl.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
That is my number one red flag when I meet
a new woman and I'm possibly about to become friends
with her, if she just be like, I'm such a
girls girl. I love women, it's just always a red
flag because it's like, if you're a girls girl, it's
gonna show, like if you really have other women's back
and you really be looking out for women and you
really want to see women succeed, I'm gonna be able
to naturally see that, and you you don't have to

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tell me all the time.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
And with the man too, because I'm such a good guy.
I'm a great god. Like you know, I don't. I
don't do all that capping. That's how they're saying that.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
No, no, no, you look you look when it comes Look
you're talking to men. So it's one of those things.
It's like you you can't talk about greatness. The only
thing that you should ever talk about is what you're
doing if people.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Not realizing it.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
And that's another thing too, because if you're doing something great,
you feel like it should be recognized. That's the only
time where I, I mean personally, I draw the line.
And I had to learn that because I'm the one
person like I ain't telling you about nothing you don't
know nothing I do, then I don't care. But I've learned,
especially now. And I was selfish for a long time.

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I only had to focus on being trind that James.
So I was super selfish. That's an easy business for
me because God made it that way. But when I
started doing like my own clothing brand and sock brand
and other things, I was like, oh my god, why.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Do I got kids?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Because they feel like real kids, and so they eat
my money up. And I don't always do business right
as far as like, oh, I make a mistake, but
I love being able to afford, first of all, to
make my mistake right because I want to learn it
myself before I hire somebody else to make the mistake.
That like, I'm not trying to hire you to make

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the same mistake that I make. And that's why you
have to have good understanding of what you're doing. And
I say all that to say where being able to
now in this space, being able to see, okay, the
responsibility of like not being so selfish basically and pouring
in poor, pouring in count the poors and count the coors, baby,

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but not just all in all, just being able to
now now in the place that I'm at with everything
going on is like, man, I'm super super focused, and
it takes away it feels from who I used to be,
which was like super super free, and I'm more and
more tied down to my businesses and it feels like
I'm working for my businesses and the goal is to

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be able to make your business work for you. And
it's a great, great journey for me. But I would
never wish the path that I'm on on anybody else.
You know, anytime I'm talking to somebody, I'm always speaking
for more. It's like, bro, I've walked through seven seventh
that fires and I saw the fire burning it and

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I was like, I'm still walking into because I'm not
really one of those people to get scared of things
or people or things like that. It's like I'm gonna
do it whatever, Like if it don't kill me, well, hey,
you know the next fire.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
But I say that to say back to what we
were talking about with that fork in the row. When
it's come to like, if you are a great person,
you don't talk about it, But if you're doing great
things that they're not being recognized, you should talk about it, right,
And that's the point. Yes, And people should know because
if the if your goal is to scale, then people

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need to know what you're scaling. That's business you personally
and your character and who you are.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
As a woman, who you are as a man.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Let that speak for you, let the other person brag
on it or whatever. One of my most funniest lines
from I Think the Future of Somebody was like, it's
like when a girl bragging on how you.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Fucking, that's when you're doing some good fucking.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
But if you say, if I'm telling your mind.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Does the lame at one and then when it happen,
you'll be like, that's what.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
She was talking about.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I wanted a poor and you gave me.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
A little drop. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
That's the type of ship to make a woman hate you.
Oh yeah, but don't tell you that you hate. I
think that's the worst type because we hate that the
woman does not speak niguld be wanting that reactions. You
want to pisch you off so much you say I
hate you, nigga and happy.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'll tell you this though, but when when you got
be like.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Hate the worst time when we're reacting. When we're reacting,
we still care and we're.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Still into it. We want you to we going back
and forth. Once we stop reacting and there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, you're done about it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
You're done. It's the rape. Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
So before we get into the first topic, I do
want to talk I love to talk about this. I
love to talk about your style because one thing I
will say is I can appreciate people that marsh the
beat of their own drum and they're different unapologetically yourself,
because when you first stepped on the scene, like, it
was different, but it's not like how it is now.

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So talk about that progress from when you first stepped
on the scene with your style and who you are
versus now.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I think all those fires that I spoke to you
about you drinking a dirty one, were drinking jealous.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
We ad miss today. Okay. I was so jealous, like
an item. I was so jealous.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
For two seconds he was about to say, shit, man.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Black black, Oh don't judge me, period.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
But the those fires that I spoke to y'all about
seven thousand fires, this industry has burnt away my.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Carrying energy, a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I am.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I am a gun with no safety. I am.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
You know how people be talking about like automatic sticks
and stuff like that, but it's illegal to have a switch.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
It's just like for me, it's like I've stripped away
my safety. There's no governor on this car. Like I
don't know if y'all car ladies like that, but if
you are a car woman, cars that come from when
you rent a car, if you ever realize that I
can't go past one ten because they have a governor
on the car.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
So you don't speed and do something stupid. There's no
governor on me.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm going two hundred miles, I'm going three hundred because
I've done it. So now what you've seen is somebody
that started ahead, did not realize that they were ahead
and really trying to catch up with themselves. So all
you've been seeing is the progression of everything that I've
just been through. Like this is just what comes to
my mind. I'm not trying to impress, I'm not trying

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to influence, honestly, I'm just moving to that drum because
I'm the only one I feel I can hear it.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
It feels right to me. When people have a problem.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
With my nails, my heels, anything that I do, my hair,
you know just this is my black experience.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I ain't never been able to change it. You ain't
never seen me get a haircut. You know what I'm saying.
It's like when.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I wish.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
This is just like when you see me cut my hair.
Know that I ain't doing nothing else. Know that I
hit for a hundred million, Know that I'm married, Know
that I got a kid on the way, hopefully five,
And don't talk to me.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Don't talk to me. I want one or five?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
You have kids.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I have no kids.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
You have no kids, you want onee or so I'm like,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I understand because because they're we lonely, and.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I'm an only child, so I can speak to that.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
So I have four brothers and four sisters, but I
grew up by myself. So I have only child syndrome,
and I've got this far by myself. I didn't grow
up my.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Brothers and sisters. I grew up my mama. I grew
up with my dad some.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
So I understand that you can be as successful as
you want to be by yourself and be lonely. I'm lonely,
but I'm not alone. I'm alone, but I'm not lonely
right way, I'm alone, but I'm not lonely. And so
I say that to say with the one of five, right,
I am going to be an amazing father. So I'm
already claiming that that's already a part of my DNA,

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like an amazing and so my knowing when I need
to separate myself, knowing when I'm taking you down, I'm
making you lame. I'm hurting your value. If I am
adding value to you, I am not doing good by you.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's the truth. And that's the same thing with my children.
My child you know.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
And and the one to five to more answer your
question is what I can afford stop having more children
than you can.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's the word that's controversial. Now you shaking it up.
I don't like that. But he ain't lying out like
if people can't afford it, they shouldn't have. I've said

(21:36):
this before.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Don't don't walk into somebody's life to give them more
than you can help with.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's crazy because you're already putting them at a dc
Vani crazy.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
You're gonna stop her for nine months, You're gonna stop her,
and then you're gonna put her nine months on your
nine months. If you ain't ever been even good at
balancing more responsibilities.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
With your life or your jobs, or ever had other
type of kids, like you're like a business or a
dog or like I don't know, like things you know
that you had to actually take care of. You don't
know what you're doing. So all right, cool, the first one,
I'm going to give it to you. You deserved it,
she she, she wanted it. Great, y'all did it.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
But moving two three two three and you're not at
two three level, that's scary.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And it's a choice.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
It is a choice because you know what to do
with your business. You should. I mean, I'm a grown
man and I've been in control of my business forever.
You know what I'm saying. All right, I was about
to say, but then I was like, you know what
you know?

Speaker 6 (22:40):
I mean, the sectomies are available and their reversible. Just
wanted to put that out there.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
But you see, people don't want to invest in their
sex life. They don't want to invest in it. They
just want to fuck. Yeah, I just want to be together.
They want to be addicted to us.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because it's people are addicted to make it.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Children readers, Yeah, some people they they like have like
a they get turned on and aroused by the idea
of making children. It's like a certain word. I can't
remember what the term is called, but it's like a
real thing.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, I think, And that has to go with control too,
because sometimes in situations with women I can speak on
because I'm a woman, I've seen so a lot of
times a woman will have a baby because either she
wants to trap the guy or she wants to she
thinks it's gonna help the relationship, it's gonna bring us together.

(23:34):
And then on the male side, it'll be like they're
doing that because a control thing, Like they want to
have tabs on this woman. They want to So if
you have my child, you have to answer to me
whether especially when the woman is more successful too, because
a woman that's more successful and you're dating somebody who
is not as successful as you, they know that you're walking.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Out that door like that because I'm back. Once you
walk all that, don't and they'll do it. They'll do it,
but they be like, let me shoot it up, shoot.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
That club up.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
But that's why I'm not gonna lie to you. Like
I just feel like the family dynamic is not what
it used to be. Nobody values family no more.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Why not it needs to be.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
What I'm gonna put out there on the table is
that the contract needs to change. I think the contract
our expectations are not meeting the quality of life. People
are expecting tradition because traditionally this is how things went.
But in reality, if you really look at it, people
don't know how to be in a relationship and end

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up having kids before they understand how to be in
a relationship.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know, that's true.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
People date people, and people think that the people that
they have sex with the most is that's your person,
and that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
However, this is your sexual person.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
But if you're not truly understanding or taking the time
to understand who that person's character.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Is, that's not your person. Buddy.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You are very emotionally intelling you are you are.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
And I also felt like something just spoke to me
when you said that, and then when you spoke on that,
I don't know. I also just feel like back in
the day, to a certain extent, I do think that
there were happy families, but I think it was also
a lot of suffering, and people don't really talk about that.
Like a lot of suffering to make the family got work,

(25:28):
and now people don't care.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
To really do that anymore.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Like it's kind of like I'm choosing me. I do
want my kids to be happy. I don't want them
to experience a broken home. But also, if I'm not
happy in this situation, I'm not just staying for the
sake of my kids. And I feel like a lot
of people don't touch on that. And that's something that
went on a lot back in the day with our parents, grandparents,
great grandparents, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Our mother suffered, they did, my mother suffered. My father's
worked way too hard, and a mother's suffered. Nobody wants
to hear that, especially not people from that generation. Right,
But when we look at it as the intelligent adults
that we are, you suffer.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Honey, you're not living. You're not going through that. Girl,
you did that, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
And because your mother is still a woman, it's a
part of that where he can go both ways where
she could either be like that's my daughter or like
I hate that bitch.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Your own because you doing something that she didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Mama could be your biggest hater as a woman, and.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm so blessed recipes to my mother. But I'm so blessed,
Like I had a mother that was like my biggest fan.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
My mom is your biggest hater?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh my god. Yes.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
But I see a lot of women make videos they're
talking about how their mom like was their first hater.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
But crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
But I'll say this, though, you have to realize, first
of all, a lot of times they had the baby
to keep them to keep, to keep your dad, and
it didn't work. So every time they look at you,
you're remind her. And I'm not saying that it's okay
or that it's not or whatever, because I'm not judging
because I don't know how that feels. But I will say, like,
I had a situation years years ago, and this guy

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was just like preaching to me like, oh, my mama
worked two jobs.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
She did this, and she did that, and I talked
about this world.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Said and I told him, I said, your mom was depressed.
You keep telling me your mom. You keep telling me
how much of a woman that your mom was. And
she had school jobs and she was taking care of
all four of y'all. Y'all was in the two bedroom
apartment and she made it work. I said, your mom
was depressed, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Surprised that she made it for her eighties because she
was ready to jump off the bridge. She couldn't take
it no more. Goddamn it. You better be lucky she
made it to your graduation.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Hold, Annie, that's the thing we brag about Black struggle.
That's what I was nothing to brag about.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
And then we.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Condemned people who like, oh, yeah, I grew up with
a pool in my backyard, and they'd be like, you
ain't been through nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
You ain't been through shape or or.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
They condemn people who decide to leave relationships that they're
unhappy in.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, to be a single period, of course, but the breakthrough,
we're there, you know what I mean, Not this therapy.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Hey, that's the thing, man, that that is.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
All these things are important, because all these things affect
everything that's going on, the type of music that you hear,
the type of fashion, the type of just approach that
we take with each other when we.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
See each other out in the wild.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
You know, your mindset of whatever your roster, man looks like,
it's a reason that they're there.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And then whatever your roster You know what I'm saying,
it's the reason why they're there, you know.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
And you you build these different layers to protect your heart,
protect your business, both of you in the midst of it.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
And on the other side, it's good. Like really, to
take it back, what you said is like, really, women
stepped into that place.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Us as men, we've been there, bro, we've been like
having boundaries and doing bullshit. Yeah, like we've been having
our k either too, trying to our best to be
the most p that we can be on every type shit.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
But now women have said like, Okay, it's our turn,
it's our time. We're doing it. It's happening, and that's
what you're seeing right now.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
And for because of that, the word tradition it couldn't
have a really negative connotation to it, because of the
fact of when people love tradition when it works in
their favor in fact, but when oh, things change and
it doesn't work in the favor, then you got people,

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you know, going crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's crazy because a lot of men they hate patriarchy,
but they created it.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah, I mean he said a word to when he
said boundaries. Men have always said boundaries. Oh yeah, they
don't negotiate on their boundaries and us as women. We
will every time if me unhappy with something, he's going
to leave. It doesn't matter how the other person feels.
It's about me and my peace and my sanity. If
I'm not happy, I'm leaving. Women we will try to

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like conform, and we'll try to make things work, and
we'll try to give grace and do all of these things.
When it's like you already bended so much on the
boundaries that you already said, and now you looking in
the mirror, you don't even know who you are anymore?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
What are these boundaries that you put there because maneuvered
around them?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
When your boundaries start getting you know, criticized or conflicted,
it throws you off as a person spiritually, mentally, physically.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Why do you think it's easier for men to do that, though,
like to set boundaries than it is for women.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I mean, traditionally we are taught to conquer. Traditionally we're
supposed to leave in the midst of When I do
these type of interviews, and men always dm men like you.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Are you this this a trade that nigga a trading
right And I'm just telling truth.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
It is what it is because I look like this
I present myself like this, and then I have conversations
like this, right, but the actual question one more time.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Oh, I was just saying, why do you think men
it's easier for men to set boundaries than it is
for women to say it boundaries?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And so to answer that question, from my opinion is
we When that's all I was gonna say, When a
man is leading correctly, life is perfect. When a man
is leading correctly, whatever correctly means to both of you,
life is grand.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
The big g man, what big r big god, big
fucking I'm.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I feel like every time something has gone wrong, it
is because it was that switch up.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Switch is the worst. I can speak that because.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm just yes, and I hate it because you know
I did do my research.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
It's part.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I believe. I want to finish.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Boundaries, but so boom because we are traditionally and you
know doctrine to lead, A great leader knows to set boundaries.
A great leader has to set boundaries. A great leader
has to have vision. Vision allows you to set boundary
because you can see that she's gonna fuck my life up.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Sometimes. Because that's what I speak about. The And if
you ever do the t on me or the research
on me.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Any woman that would have an issue with me is
because the switch came, and it's like, why the fuck
the switch, But because I had the vision to see
that I'm not good for you, not that you're not
good for me.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm not good for you, and you were honest with that,
like you told them that, like I'm not good for you,
but not good because of the vision that you are.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, where I'm going and what I'm seeing, who you are,
where I'm going and where I'm seeing, where you are
and what it takes for you to be where I'm at.
It's not fair because I already see where you're at
the where I don't have the extra time to put
that work into you.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I need you to already be beating me.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
I'm like, I want you to even be better than me,
be better than I don't care, like I don't care,
Like I'm an incredible leader, so I don't care.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And I think you are more so talking about visions aligning.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
To yeah, like you're like you don't do the same
thing that I do or work for me. You know,
I either want that type of wife or like, hey,
great vision. It aligns I want to support you President
first lady, you know what I'm saying type vibe like
be doing great ship that I could show. I just
want to show up, and my presence is a present
to what you're doing because it's already lived.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's already you got bars for days like this is
you for real all the time? I know it.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But to answer your question, which it kind of puts
me in a in the doghouse, is I don't always
communicate that switch as I had as I grew old.
And that's the libra of that, because some people, to me,
don't deserve to know. It's like, bro, I'm out of here.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
That's me out of here that I'm happy to tell
you nothing.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Now, but I'm like hey until I'm not like hey,
like I'm gonna I don't just I truly feel like
I have never just one hundred ghosted somebody I was dating.
I feel like I told you what you were doing
that I did not like, that was irritating me, or
it needed to change or it didn't work for me.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And then if you didn't change it, then if I
stopped talking to you.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
When I cut off communication, I'm not wrong and I
don't necessarily feel like I owe you that because I'm
done talking, like I don't care. I feel like people
keep talking when they want to work things out.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I think when you.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Stop communicating with somebody, that's clear that like I'm done
with these.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'm overar eat, ghost hate, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
It ain't nothing else to talk about.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And so to go back to what we're saying, it's
a same exact person.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Like I have deep prayers because I'd be having a
lot of things going on, so I'll be having to
ask God for we be having conversation, they get really
really deep.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
And when I get out of a.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Really good prayer or a really good meditation, sometimes things
just pop to me like I need to cut you off, yop,
Like it just literally like just like oh what the hell?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Like I will ask God, who do I need to
cut off? Like what's going on?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Like something I don't feel spiritually right? Who do I
need to cut off? And if it show me, my girl,
you are gone?

Speaker 6 (35:49):
And I feel like God, But I feel like God
will show people too, And that's where a lot of
people be fucking up, because God will show you and then.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
They be like, what Jesus I didn't say him? And
That's why you can't ask for what you're not ready.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I really feel like this episode is so crazy because
I and I'm not look y'all knows up such telling
you last night that was in my prayer. I said, God,
please protect me from the people that are not supposed
to be around what you was thinking of that boy's

(36:29):
God protect me.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
That's when I said, I just want to leave.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
No, but I did.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
I did.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I said that because I was like.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I am, I'm very forgiving. I like I am just
like my own worst enemy. But I will say I
did pray that last night. I was like, Man, please
protect me from the people that I have to watch.
I like to be around people that.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Like, I know you got my back.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I know we locked in and it ain't no switching up,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
So I had that prayer last night because and honestly,
I'm now at the stage where I feel like I'm
more emotionally intelligent to where I'm paying attention to the signs.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Because that used to be me. I would pray, I
would pray God just show me, and he would show me.
And I mean it would be like.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I had God, cousin, get your ass up off that flow, bitch,
and I would be like, but I love.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Him or I love how this is my friend, and
I just wouldn't listen.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
But I feel like now it's like, girl, you're gonna
save yourself a lot of pain and heart that if
you just listen and pay attention.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Not before we get into the first topic, I do
want to talk about your career a little bit, because
everybody knows you as this amazing artist, but I want
to talk about you a little bit more behind the scenes,
as like a producer and a writer, because you're an
amazing producer and writer.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh could you touch on that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
It started back in twenty fifteen when I first got
a chance to do a record for Rihanna and DJ Mustard.
It was the first time somebody ever asked me to
come and do writing. And Rihanna didn't show up, so
I didn't get to meet her, and must didn't show
up either to me answer. But the beautiful thing about it,

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I still took advantage of the opportunity because he sent beats,
and so I took one of the beats, and actually
I made a song in that record and I'm going gold,
and I made a good It helped me build a
whole fan base on the West coast because I showed
up and I'm a big sign of I didn't go
to school for anything, so I don't know anything. I
just experienced things and learned from there that old school shit.

(38:38):
And so in twenty fifteen when that happened, it you know,
made me more privy to oh, I'm all right, I'm
gonna write for people.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'm a rite for people.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
And you know, wasn't landing nothing, landing nothing twenty fifth
they ended the twenty sixteen nothing, twenty seventeen nothing, and
then twenty eighteen, Oh no, God just said all right,
it's time I got better and caught some stuff for
Kevin Gates, then helped launch Bad Babies career, and then

(39:08):
from there it's just like people now, when you do
something in my industry, kind of like for the first
time or success comes there, everybody come under that door that.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
You open, like, oh, hey, cook, can you write for her?
Can you write for her? Her?

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Because nobody knows how to help women or work with women.
They just like to make money off of them. And
once I realized that, I was like, you know what,
let me take my time and actually try and make
these women cold at what they do. Everybody was everybody
was cool with a woman being cool?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Was she cool? She cool? Want to be missy? You
know what I'm saying. And even in the midst of
Lauren like they persecuted her through everything. You know what
I'm saying. It's hard to be great as a woman.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
And I saw that and I could share greatness because
I feel in my spirit I'm great.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I was like, I got extra greatness to share and so.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
That helped me to then go from writing music to
about like twenty twenty becoming the.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Creative director for this artist Boom. I was working with her.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
We called this crazy record with like number three on
not because we want to brag about it. That's why
you don't see me talking about it, me talking to
you about it now, because you asked me, and I
appreciate that question. But we come into people's lives, women's
lives to make you incredible because nobody's trying to make
you incredible.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I'm trying to make you incredible, Yes.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
Because you do a lot of creative direction for a
lot of music here, makeup nails, directing it, cover whatever.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Like we have been able and blessed enough to work
with a lot of women at R and B and rapped.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
To do all these things, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
And it's just one of those things where it's like,
because I've spent so much time working on my craft,
not really chasing fame. So that's why it's like, I'm
famous as the fuck. But at the same time, if
you ask the second person, they'll be like, what you're
talking about a nigga for all I know him for
is all go everything. And I feel you, bro, know whatever,
but you not.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You don't know me. You don't know what's going on, bro.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
And and that's totally fine because the artists that I like,
you don't know what's going on with them.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
What is Andre is doing right now?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
We have no clue, but he doing a life with
that flu.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Blue and dropping Shoe Brew and dry ass albums, just
being great, you know. And once again, what do we
say about greatness? It goes unspoken. So I believe that
the most high my ecosystem, my universe around me helps
me to be great. And I'm once again whether my
Karate instructures to teach me you are not the master

(41:48):
of anything that you don't have students in so I'm
not looking at these artists or these young women that
we work with as students or anything like that. But
we are more here to be your accountability partner because
inability in my industry go so far. If it was
only if it wasn't the two of you, this would
be so hard by yourself. Oh yeah, you couldn't do it,

(42:09):
now that you couldn't do it. But because y'all have
each other, that's what makes this ship increble.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Don't need somebody to.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
You felt it, not the little So that's that's what
it is. Is Like you know, I got Dad talks
on this my brand. Dad is a nickname that I
was given a long time ago. It's an acronym for
destroying all doubt. But a lot of people just like
your like if people got spirit animals. I'm like your

(42:42):
spirit father.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
See that.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Though I can see you being a spirit fault, I
can't too. Like I am pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Like we met you at the BT Awards, I was like, okay,
he cool, Like he cool, but you are actually very
extremely intelligent.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
We see each other time a ball? What we drinking?
The ball? Okay?

Speaker 8 (43:03):
So in honor of our guest, mister Trinidad James. We
are gonna call this one the Double Duck.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, that was wet.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So this is the Double Dutch.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
It has some a black owned bourbon, It has some
coconut liqueur. We have some passion fruit puree, some lime juice,
and some pineapple syrup, and then we've garnished it with
a dehydrated pineapple and a skeward lime wheel.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So this is the Double Dutch. Cheers y'allus episode, and
it's so good. Tell us about it. Men's Honor a
little bottle.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
We love you. I love just learning. I don't know anything.
I just learned ship shout out to Shout out to
my brother Eric.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I've known Eric for a long time from basketball because
that's my background, and he is like the global ambassador
for kind of really just putting people on black owned spirits.
Like he's immaculate with black owned spirits, and he's honestly
been teaching me. So Headman's Honor is one of the
brands that he's been showing me. And I've been kind of,

(44:23):
like you know, coming to their events and seeing what's
going on here in Atlanta. Locally, and I don't think
they're from Atlanta, but just in Jennial. For me, I
just love supporting black owned businesses. That makes sense. I
love when we do great business. Good business is cute,
but great business is not that easy. And when people
do great business, for me, I like to just salute
it and you know, support it, which.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Is like an umbrella for different black owned brands. Oh
so a little song ten to one Sierra's rum is
also under what about wow? Uncle Neary? Who is Ernest?
I forgot? I forgot the u C I know art

(45:09):
is I know a little artist Ernie. I know Arnest,
you know around the way. That's what you got him confused.
That's all right.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I knew what you meant the nearest right here, that's
all you meant. That's all right, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
But Amazon and everybody, you know, if you come to
Atlanta or they in different parts of pockets of the US,
if you like supporting black owned spirits, Amazon and Uncle NAAR's,
you know. For me, I'm not signed to anybody, just
like supporting black owned business when I can. You know
when I when I am doing one of these spirits,

(45:44):
you will know for sure, for sure, because the bottom
will be nice.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's right, the creative and.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
It is.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, this drink I had messed up.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I really coming.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
We we like almost hey, hey, all right now, all right,
go ahead, what we got? What we got?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
So for topic number one, we really wanted to talk
about can you be successful as an artist today without
going viral? First, because obviously you came up at a
time where we didn't. I mean, social media was I
do feel like privalent, but not what it is now.
Like now you have so many people that are literally

(46:23):
getting signed and becoming artists because they had a clip
go viral or a song go viral. So how do
you feel about that? Do you think that is something
that is necessary for an artist's career today.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I think that you have to have a social media
presence period.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
I think that if you started music today in twenty
twenty five and you did not care nothing about going viral,
I believe that if you, but you're a great artist.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
So like are you Sexy Red? Right? You didn't know
anything about her and now she is everywhere. He's a
goddess right with the Internet really helped Sexy's career. But
if she never had the Internet.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
And she really just stayed consistent. Oh she'll still go crazy,
But it's just according to who you want to be.
You see a lot of people once again tradition, you know,
clouds what success looks like for you because you think
it's supposed to look like this, bl blah blah blah.
I signed a three million dollar deal. How everybody's like, man,

(47:32):
don't sleep on the independent grind if that's who you are,
because the other side, which is not the independent, it
comes with a lot of ghost stress that you don't
know about it. Like you you know you have a
bunch of money, but then it's like how do you
feel as a person, And to some people to be

(47:52):
like man, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
I want to be rich cool. Hey, sure, but that
has a toll that it takes on you emotionally and consistently.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
And you got to look at the consistency of these
people who you know, move that are not independent compared
to like how somebody is when you come and they're
successful and independent.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
So to answer your question, yes you can be. But
if you know that your work ethic is trash, forget
about it. Now.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know anything
about the music industry.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
But I do feel like.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like industry, like the record labels used to invest in
artists development, Like when music was good, they're like, we're
gonna push this record because it's a good record. Now,
like artists are getting one song record deal, right, so
they can push this song because they see it going
up on TikTok. And it's like, I feel like that's

(48:50):
why people feel like certain genres are dead and stuff,
because they feel like it's not a hit if it's
not viral on TikTok. So do you feel like that's
what's happening and why people feel like music is so
bad now because the record labels aren't investing in artist
development and pushing actual good music.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yes, that's that. That is a part of it. So yes,
for you not to know music, he definitely said some
real good stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Some things that I hear and I'm like, this song
is ours. And then I'll hear some songs that I
was like, I discover artist.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'm like, what the fuck? I always say.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
I feel like links could have been a r in
like another life, if this wasn't her career, that could
have been like probably very gordeous a lot alive legend.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
To answer your question, Corporate is corporate man, and corporate
is not culture.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Corporate is the tool that us. Corporate is the bank
for culture.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Corporate uses culture in order to be rich, to stay rich,
are development. It really should start with the people around you.
That's really where you start. Because what I think is
happened is this. It's Labels when they did it. They
did it for so many years spending money into artists development.

(50:14):
Yea that they look they put the formula on the
table for.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
You to learn it and do what you need to do.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Labels look at it now. It's like, man, I'm not
gonna spend that more money there. It's like I showed
you what to do. Take the blueprint and do it.
Because the ones that do it, we want to come
in when you're doing it, because we showed you how
to do it. You wouldn't know how to move like
a label if the labels never showed you how to
do it.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
And people take.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
People take the information that they learned when Labels was
spending money on artists development, and they're the ones who
come and I'll show other people like this how you
do this. So you shouldn't do that or you shouldn't
do this, and you shouldn't do that. So I feel
like big labels, you know, they are looking at It's
like why spend it on that? Like the blueprint is
out there. TikTok is show you everything. YouTube will show

(50:57):
you everything. YouTube is a world within the internet.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Do you feel like people chasing viralities like killing their
creative juices and you know, are you sacrificing originality for cliques?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
It's a choice, it's a choice. Nobody knows anything. People
just want to be seen, That's true. People are lonely.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Attention is so bad. Have we seen people on the
internet eating corn stars and just why are you eating cornstar?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I want you attention.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I want you to talk about why are you eat
corn because you're going to talk about your podcast and
you are talking about it.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
The corn stars people are.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Like, I just think it's.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Literally and like it's different when you eat corn star
stuff because some people what is it called some people
have pika where they like literally needed because I think
they have like low iron or something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
They don't need it. They just need to take their
iron pier.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Well, yeah, but they do it because it's more of
a craving because of something else going on with like
their iron versus people who are literally getting on the
internet just eating corn starts just.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
So they can go viral, smacking myself in the face
of yeah it's a little weird.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I want your attention.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yes it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
But as you know, just like a child, it's like
people are they are lonely and alone. It's just a
different time because people are getting lost in the attention
of the Internet. They're not what's happening is I think
that they're not investing into other people and they want

(52:44):
to be valued through what the Internet thinks about them
and not the neighborhood, Like your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Has no value no more.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And that's so crazy to me because I feel like
being valued on the internet but not being valued.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
In the in real life crazy and also thinking you
valued on the internet but you're not actually being paid.
It's crazy. I mean, a lot of people be just
wanting to go viral. They don't even be making no money.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
That is now that part of it right there is
where it's like, that's what's messing up. The people who
just like fuck it, I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Lit and they'd be like, well, I'm getting paid for this,
Like if your video is under a minute, I know
you ain't.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Getting paid forget about it, Like you're a liar. You're like,
I know that you're lying. Yeah, what do you You're
a liar?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yes, It's just I think we're in weird times because,
like I said, like, I just feel like when I
came up and the internet became a thing, right, you
actually though you had to have something about you, you
still have to have that it factor, you know what
I'm saying. Oh my gosh, what was the girl's name?
I can't remember. JD had signed her a long time ago.
I'm sorry, y'all came remember name. I've been drinking. It's

(53:57):
the wrong. But she used to get on the on
YouTube and she would sing and she could just sing
Dondrea Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
And she could I mean she could sing oh my god.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
And it was like that when Jackie ain't a first
came on the scene, like she really knew how to
do makeup. Like it wasn't like, oh she can do
makeup for like dark skinned women. No, she could do
makeup for anybody, you know what I'm saying. So I
feel like when I came up, I was like I
don't what you had to do something, you know what
I'm saying. I feel like it's just so different now.
But it's bled over to music now too. It's bled

(54:32):
over to music now because you could just do a
little when Sierra did the one two step, that was
a hit.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
They trying to do the one two step, but they ain't.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
It ain't given that and everybody be remixing everything too sometimes,
which I feel like it's kind of a little bit
in my opinion, killed originality. Like I know, artists have
been using samples for a really, really long time, but
now I feel like you said all time, h.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
That what I'm saying, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
People are not chasing the originality the way they used to,
and it's unfortunate. It's very very unfortunate. But at the
end of the day, you have to stand on your standards.
That's what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Because and to go to your point, samples used to
be like you had to really listen to it, like
is this not they just taking a whole beat and
they add a snare on there.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
That's what they everything everything. Okay, all right, We're gonna
move on to the next topic. Because we used to
getting chatty. I love a good deep convo.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
We'll be getting to it today. Okay, So topic too
is believe it are not? Okay, We're gonna talk about
conspiracy theories, like what's the conspiracy theory that you fully believe?
Or you be like, okay, y'all tripping like it's not
you know what I'm saying. Now, we have some written down,
but I'm gonna talk about mine.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Okay, but sure that.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
This is stupid, but I don't I believe it. I
really do think it's true. Like I believe that pigeons
were man made? Why I have never seen a baby pigeon.
I don't see baby pigeons. I see pigeons that but like,
what's up, as nigga? Can I have some of your sandwich?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
What if they being protected until they could fly away?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
No pigeons were man made. Pigeons are not real. I
don't feel like every baby. I don't think you meant
to see every baby of something.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I've seen every baby.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
The only thing I haven't seen a baby of I
haven't seen a baby pigeon, and I haven't seen a
baby Samuel L.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Jackson. That's it. Then he might be man made too, Damn.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'm just saying, Damn.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Pigeons aren't real. Pigeon shaped it up. I don't know what. Yeah,
that pictures are you can show me.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I have never seen a baby pigeon in person, pigeons
in parson saying.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Who is that? I don't believe it. That's a girl. Hell.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Now, what I'm saying is that might be here for damn,
that is it?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
That as hell? But always we're gonna stop, We're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I say all that to say because I feel like
in New York you see pigeons everywhere.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You never see a nest? Where are they going? Where
are you? You donne took my sand with you? Done
grab my chip?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Where?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
And they just go in the alley with other big pigeons.
Pigeons aren't real, and you cannot convince me.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
That they are. That was a man made experience experiment
that got taken out of hand.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
You want to say yours, you want me to go?

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I feel like for me it's COVID nineteen. I want
to do think that that was a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I want to throw where the admins at good God, almody.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Now you can't say that we lost a lot of
it's a lot of fallish soldiers.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It is the COVID nine.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
But I feel like it's been a lot of falling
So just that have happened with a lot of things
that people think are conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Oh but you think that that was like something that
people that it wasn't like an accident. No, oh, okay,
that makes sense, you spit.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
I don't want to say something Nils that I think
is a conspiracy theory because it's real controversial.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
But I ain't gonna say that, want to Yeah, I'm
sure it's another virus like to do that.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
That's what she do.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
It's another viwerry though, but it's making a day. Oh,
we're not gonna talk about that when I'm thinking my dream.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
We're gonna move forward.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Yes, I believe that everybody has another person look like them.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
So what happened to me?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
One time I'm in New York City. I'm moving, I'm
moving around. I like to walk when in New York
because I like to just walk with the city and
catch the flow. And were walking, me and my guy
Jay are actually he would be right here now, and
were walking, and this guy coming down on the bike.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
White guy on the bike or whatever. Boom, boom.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I stopped so that he can go, because you know,
the bikes, they run the world. You can't tell them
niggas nothing. We keep walking, we go two blocks and
we make a ripe. As we're walking up on this
block that we're walking up on, boom, this guy walking
towards me. Inside of my head, I'm like, oh my god,
that's the same dude I just saw on the bike,

(59:26):
but he not on the bike in a different outfit,
the same exact, same exact white man. I didn't say
nothing because I'm like, I'm a conspiracy theory. I want
to sound crazy. My god, J already said, ain't that
the same dude? He just said it out of blue?
Would I say, nigga, yes, said it's the same person.
That was the same and it's no way possible that

(59:48):
he would have took the bike. It's no way possible.
I mean, and then look, if it was twins, well
then God work in mysterious ways, right sure, sure, and do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Don't doubt them now now, but what is the odds?

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah, like come on, like God wanted, Yeah, I'm not
looking for white men in New York, Like, that's not
why I'm outside, like, oh, let me go find these Caucasians.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
We're not doing that. That's not what we're doing it
right right now?

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
We're not Caucasian hunting out here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
So I've got enough of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I'm with you on that because I Another conspiracy theory
that I believe is I think that every time we
make like a life changing decision, right, I think like
a space I'm about to start talking about space again,
y'all know how I get. Yeah, space is the most
interesting thing you will ever dive into learn about. It

(01:00:46):
is crazy, and once you get into it, you can't stop.
So I decided to believe like every there is. I
can't talk about how big the universe is because you
can't fathom it, you can't really understand it. But I
truly think like every time we make a decision, it's
like another planet. Like if you go right instead of left,

(01:01:06):
there's another planet that went right and you're down here
going left. But this is what your life would have
looked like. I do think like there's different planets and
we're all it's a different version of us. It's a
different version of us. Yes, If y'all like and people
are gonna be like, Lex, you sound crazy. But if
y'all understood how big the universes, I'm not just talking

(01:01:30):
about the Milkyway, because the Milky Way as big as fuck,
and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
A this to the whole thing all to the universe,
and we can't even see like past a certain amount
of light years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
If y'all think that Earth is the only planet with
living human beings, y'all are crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Oh, I for sure believe in other beings.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Which version I'm asking both of you this question, Which
version of yourself would you like to meet that wasn't
the version that's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I would like to meet the version of me that
stood on business and was like unapologetically herself, just the
billy badass.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Version that was just like I don't give a fuck
because I give.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
A fuck, right right, No tears like she don't find
I would.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Love because I would love to see like where she
is right now, because she's on another planet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I know she's richest fuck living, having a ball.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
It's like I feel like I don't forget the version
of me that wasn't scoring about like I would love
to meet that version of myself because I don't even
feel like I remember that person, Okay, because I feel
like when you really think about it, for most of us,
like trauma started as a child, so you don't even
really remember that version of yourself and how happy you were,
and so just.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
An unscoring version of this stuff like yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
your version.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
I would love to meet the man I went to
four years of college, got my doctorate, like just the
education version of myself, Like just like that person, like
went to school and do no street shit, no rap shit,
none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Just like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Traditional version if you would have took the Yeah, like
it was really good in high school, really good in college,
really like just killed it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Like y'all, hey it's out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I'm telling y'all, no hair got the waves a little fade,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
I feel like by the time like a Earth can
reach like another type of Earth that's out there, Like
it's gonna be way, like we're gonna be long gone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Now, it's gonna be somebody that figures out how to
travel light years or to get something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It's gonna be somebody that comes on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
They show us in the movies. They travel, you know,
multi verses all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
They and they go through like the black hole and
it takes them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Oh, Spider Man got seventeen thousand versions of I'm saying,
think I got a Mexican version, an Asian version.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Show black Bird.

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
Cut up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Really is a pig version of you out there in
the universe.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
He better has some good shoes on. I'm gonna be
pissed if any version of me don't have good shoes on.
For me, you gotta have a good none of any
version of me better has some good shoes on it.
I'm gonna fight and kill the ship out of him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I'm glad you brought up your shoes. Bring us into
the next topic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Let's get it now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
It's time to get into the bowl a bow about.
So today we're gonna talk about masculinity and sexuality.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Okay, oh ship talking to me about this is We're
gonna fil.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Right the good top well, because I think it's important
to have a conversation about it. Because I mean, I'm
gonna be blunt. This is Look, this is the room talking.
I'm gonna be blunt. I think a lot of people
probably look at you and be like, oh, he gets
his nails done, he wears heels, he's gay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
You know he likes men. But you know, we go
back brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
They used to love a good hell, a crop top
and a crop to Prince used to have them cheeks
out and he cheky and our prince was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
That's what I'm moving. The cheeks too, not just like
turn around.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Crazy magic city check make Braik Prince that magic city cheeks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I'm telling you he knew how to make that right cheeks,
left cheek bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I want to talk about your style. You know, people
would look at you like you're a certain type of way,
so talk about it though. I'm gonna let you talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, because I wanted to talk about your nails.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
When we met you at the BS Awards, I was like,
oh my god, your nails are so fab you got
met a nails that men.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I'm not creative.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
No competition.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
It ain't no competition, but it is though, you know
what I mean. You ate, I'm just a French tip girly.
I don't much. Yeah, I'm like, if I had somebody
that could do him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Like that, I would get.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I would get.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Whenever you're in LA, I'll take it to the girls. Tachi.
What's but so? All right? Man, do not as a man,
do not do what other men do. Do what is

(01:06:26):
good for you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
I do not want any man, or any young man
or your son or anything to be like me, because he,
first of all, he can't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
He cannot. How I got here.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Is a journey. I'm a journey man. I'm on to travel.
I'm on a journey for greatness. What I do in
the midst of with myself is totally and solely for me.
I've never kissed a man, been kissed by man, has
sex with a man, man has sex with me, none
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
If a man look good, he look good, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
But even you saying that, they'll be like, ah, but
I feel like, what's wrong with that? I don't even
look at you know, if a nigga fine or not.
I don't care what man say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Y'all know or not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Niggas always know. Like I literally heard that somebody say
the other day, yesterday. Maybe he's like a couple days
he's like, oh, yeah, you know, the east Side nigga
find a here, that's what they're known for. And in
my mind I was like he just said that or whatever.
But but that's what they're pretty boys. Like back in
the day, like them, the pretty boys. You called another

(01:07:34):
man a pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Boy or whatever could be looked at as like hey man,
what the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Yeah, But once again the obvious in the room is like, bro,
he looks better than you. Look at him at you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
If you call somebody ugly, you can recognize somebody's unattractive.
You can recognize it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
When they're when their greatness speaks, when their greatness speaks.
Like we said, the great person not going to say nothing.
You're gonna do the talking because that person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Is making you feel uneasy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
So I say all that to say, whereas like everything
that I do is intention is not lucky. I have
never chased clout because God did not make me that way.
If you look at my birthright of all go everything
and truting that Jay is that's how I started. If
you look at that man where he started, anything that
I'm doing now should not surprise you because I've always,

(01:08:25):
once again walked to the beat of my own drum.
The issue that is happening now is that because everybody
is so influenced by influencers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
That's why influencer is literally a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Million dollar job, because that means that you can make
yourself a leader. You can make yourself influence people because
of that. That is what throws people off, because they're
looking at it as like you're a bad representation. They're
looking at it like, hey, you're a leader. I think
that you're a leader, but you're not the type of

(01:08:58):
leader that I want you to be. And it's like whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey,
what I say you You should more pay attention to
what I say and then understand why I do what
I do, because what you do for yourself should always
still be based on like why you feel this way

(01:09:20):
when I get my nails done consistently and to this
level because I love art, Like I would have never
been a French tip girl.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
I would have never been. I would no no no
no no no no no no no no, I just
I would have never just because I mean, look look
at me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I just love to vibrate.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Because I don't want to talk about how great I am.
I want my fashion.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
I want myself to express that when like it's not
like Prince started off cheeks, he got the cheek.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
And I say all this the same way it's like anybody.
Everybody will still always have a problem with me presenting
myself like this, like this, like this.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
I love you know, but that's the thing about it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Like for me, I ain't even women have a problem,
but like I've been living a great life, like in
my journey, any woman that I've ever dealt with, they
made me like this, you know what I'm saying. And
I and it's never been a problem because a woman
could tell if you're not a man, you can have

(01:10:38):
none of this.

Speaker 7 (01:10:38):
I will.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I could take you to some men that if we
just put them right there, you'll be like, jeezus Christ,
this nigga find a ship.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
This nigga gave us hell. And he ain't got none
of this stuff that I got on.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Right, none of this I mean, waves abs, all the
tatty at the neck nigga, all that, whatever you think
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
And he don't want nothing to do with y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
No, it's so funny that you said that, because I
was literally just gonna ask you that, like, has you
being how you are, as creative as you are, wanting
to express yourself the way that you do, has it
hindered your day in life, but you already answered that. Well,
something that really comes to mind for me is that
back in the day, like I feel like, and not
to compare you to a pimp, but pimps used to

(01:11:29):
dress real flamboyantly and they were really expressive well how
they dressed, and nobody ever considered them gay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
And you know that that comes from the aspect of
when you are really free, you everything. You a man,
you're a woman, you everything. All this shit look at
on me like this is me challenging the universe. I
ain't even seeing y'all no more.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
I am. I'm in a different spectrum. Like I don't
even see these nails. I just have these nails. You
know what I'm saying, Like, I don't this my Jordan
one right here? You know that, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
That that that is just once again, you are looking
at the black experience from a free perspective. Like I
started off this particular topic on, I am not trying
to influence you. I am not trying to give you
pointers on what to look like or who to be right,
I am just truly walking to the beat of my
own drum.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
I love that, and I think the confidence shows too,
Like when you're doing certain things because you're trying to
be something people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
That's when it comes off like weird.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
You can't even talk. You can't even talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's like now who you are?

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
Okay, Well now it's time Hey into dub Hey the
about boo about Boo?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
So the bop tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
It's our music that we've been jamming this week.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
So I have been cleaning. I've been in a cleaning
mode and I listened to an album. I want to say,
this album came out maybe, I'm like, let me see,
I have to look it up two thousand and nine.
And when I say, this is one of my favorite albums,
and I was like, you know, the mind is so
interesting because you cannot listen to something for a very

(01:13:19):
long time and then when you hear it, it's like,
oh yeah, this album came out in two thousand and nine.
Do y'all remember the band LaRue This Time Baby, So
the album that they had dropped in two thousand and nine,

(01:13:40):
I'm not kidding is one of the best albums ever,
like Start to Finish No Skips. Now, if you like
the electronic dance music type music, you'll like it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
If not, don't even listen to it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
You've Vegas a couple of times, yes, But you know the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Reason I like this album now and I replayed it
I was listening to it, It's because they had that
bas in there, so it kind of gives like it
doesn't give like hip hop vibe, but you can hear
that bas in there. And the thing she was talking about,
like struggling in relationships and going through it. And there's
this one song called cover My Eyes and she's talking

(01:14:20):
about how she's in love with this man and she
saw him with another woman and she had to cover
her eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
I'm like, we all going through it, man, you know
what I'm saying. And I was listening to it and
I was like, Wow, this is what we call a
perfect album.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
And I think I talked about it a long time ago,
like when it was Wine down Wednesday, but I ran
it back the other day and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Like, man, I think this is the album that you
would appreciate. You have to listen to it. It's the
first album. It's the album that has bulletproof on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
So just listen to it, and I'm gonna hit you
in like a week and see what you think about
it because it's so good from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
So that's my bop of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
LaRue's first album is the self titled album LaRue. If
you went to the different type of music, listen get
my phone ja Yeah, I put.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
That on there.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
My fop of the week is Chris Brown and Brison
Tiller have a new song. It's called It Depends, and
it's actually because we were just talking about samples. US
shirt is on the song because they use the sample
from Nice and Slow. And I really really love these songs.
I love I love when people do do samples.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
The right way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I knew that song was I ain't look.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
I literally got that listen to because I said Chris
Brown being first of all, shout out to Chris Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
God is good. Yes, but they don't really work together
like that, Chris Brown and the person till they don't.
But Chris Brown is strategic. Let Chris don't. Nobody work
hard in Chris Brown and the R and B Y.
I agree, but he's strategic the time. And I said,
it's like when you waited to work with Drake when
it didn't Nobody that timing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Was crazy because everybody do they hate each other exactly
these songs ever worse.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
The song still I still Chris Brown, the person that
dropped thirty songs, forty songs the album this album way,
It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Y'all keep thinking, y'all keep thinking them boot. I know
that song good. I know it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I promise you could trace me. It's a really really
good I know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Like I said, I love when people's when people do
samples the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I live.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Bryceon Tailor, Yeah, bryceon Taylor is fire problem. Sometimes I
feel like, now what you've been jamming?

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Ooh, you know, I'm all over the place. So what
I've been loving is two songs, Uh, all right, three songs.
I'm a lie every three songs on the album give
us three the three songs. One is Loretta Lynne. It's
a song called you Ain't Woman enough. The lyrics on

(01:16:56):
there aren't saying. The lyrics on there are in sane insane,
You ain't woman to forget about it, penmanship insane.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Now what genre is this?

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
This is Americana nineteen sixties, trying to be the perfect
woman or whatever. Instillin't enough?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
So you know what I'm saying that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Okay, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
The next song is Sliding family Stone called a song
called Family Affair Instant Family Affair. It feels so good.
I just love things. It's just like I weren't even
in cleaning mode. I was just in thinking mode and
it came on and it made my complete body feel good. Yes, okay, oh,

(01:17:49):
thank you very much. And then last song, completely different genre.
There's some twins from Atlanta, they called the am G
Twins MG Twins from Atlanta. They got a song called
No Gimmicks and it just feel like when.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Future was ready to go and be that man. Okay,
it made me feel like, oh my god, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
It's turn up time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
That's turn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Let me let me add that on in now. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I got another song I want you to listen to to.
It's called heat Waves by Glass Animals. It's kind of
like in that same genre of what I was giving before.
But listen to that song too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Glass Animals are done. Got it all right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
That was some good but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Now it's Oh the album was Eclipse. I'm sorry, Oh
the new album.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Oh, I was so wait quick story times now. He
said that I was riding the car the other day
and I had to make a snap. I made a Snapchat.
I said, I don't know what's going on because I
usually I don't listen to a lot of rap music.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
And I said, this album is for boys, but I
like it. That is so good That niggas was on there,
but I grew up on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
That album is so good because you know we always
see push your t Yes. Melie said, let me let
y'all know why I'm big bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Y'all forgot about me. Oh, and he reminded us real
fucking quick that album No Skips.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
I really listened to the whole thing. I was like,
I was driving through Washington. I said, real rap, this
is good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
When we were talking about real rap, like this is
what they were talking about at the top. It's good.
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I was like, because it's crazy. Because my friend was like, oh,
the clips just dropping the new album. I was like,
I don't know, like you know, like I'm just I
listened to stuff. I dibble and dabble. He said, let
me run it when he did that tiny dashk and
he was, oh, let me go see what he talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
That's why I stay out of people be That's why
I stay out to people beef. I just want to
hear the music. But I'm here for the music. You
are not my friend music.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
That song that the Clips had back in the day
with for Real, I can't remember. No, the hot Damn
song Hot Damn you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Was a great song. Hot you know from was a
great song.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
Yeah, that's a big cut.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
That's a yeahs. My favorite bar from the from the
Clips you know it the Chinchilla. I put this on
my My beef was pold.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Shut up?

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Come on now, they've been spending for clips.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
That's what good rap does. It makes women feel great men,
That's what great rap does. Yah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah, shut up. Every We love everybody in the beast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
We just we just talked about it, all right, Okay,
so uh now it's time to move on what we
got next row.

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Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
So now it's all to get into our favorite segment
of the show of the show, which is pour your
heart out. If you have any questions, send them to
ask poor Minds at gmail dot com. That's a s
kp oh you are in my NDA's at gmail dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I like that, pour your heart out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
You can ask us a let question.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
I used to write a testimonials. What have you writing
a testimonials? Okay, hey, beautiful women, my name is Loay.
Can y'all please come to Charleston, South Carolina? I need
advice on a relationship I was recently in. I broke
up with my boyfriend because his mother was always calling him,
like every hour, even when we were on dates. Am

(01:22:30):
I wrong for that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
What? Do you think? It can go both ways?

Speaker 9 (01:22:34):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
When a when a When a man loves his mother,
it's different, right, And it's not like a good man
can't love his mother too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
I think that in her issue. Man, I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I think what what the issue comes is when you're
not getting the that the tension that you like, when he.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Doesn't know how to balance.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Like I said, a great leader got his mama in check,
his daddy in check, and girl in check. Like a
great leader got everybody in check. Him and his mama
are best of friends. Girl, You ain't never gonna match that.
He loved his mama. They damned it doing everything, but
fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
You know what I'm saying. They love each other.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
You know she made that, nigga. But a great leader
knows how to balance his time. And I don't think
he was a great leader, And so I think she
did the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Yeah, So you mean like more so like if we're
on to day, my mom know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Not to call, or just like whenever a man feels
like he has to answer every call from his mother
or whatever. You know what I'm saying, it's like, your
mother can't just call you in the emergencies. Your mother
should be able to call you. But if your mother
here is like if you have a great relationship with her.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Already knew he was going on this day.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
She already knew he was going to day, nigga, she
knew yesterday you told her because y'all right. So if
you're a real leader, she's not calling you at eight am,
A PM, I PM.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
She's not calling you during that time. She's not.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
So once again, if he's a great leader, you don't
have to worry about those type of things. Now, what
I've a little bit of my devil horn, very devil's advocate,
is that just to make sure that you're not cutting
them off and you're not trying to understand the dynamic
that he has that he I love my mother and
like you know, because once again, girls be beefing with
their mother.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
I would ever say you beefing with your mother? You
don't understand what it is that I love my mama.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
You know what I'm saying, And that can throw off
the energy there. You know, if you i'll judge a
woman off how you treat.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Your mama, I agree say, and I'll judge a man off.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
It is well, of course, as you should, as you should,
but i'll judge a woman off here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
You treat your mama whatever because you should.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
That says a lot about a party whoa and even
if it's not their fault, but a relationship that a
person has with their parents says a lot about.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
How they develop.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
How you carefu your dad in his old age, your mother,
what type of relation the things that you say about
her is like, that's gonna stick with me, dog, It's
gonna stick with me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Like I'm not even trying to judge you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
I am not trying to, but it's going to stick
with it because I love my mother, because she's earned
my love, you know what I'm saying. So it's just like, look,
everybody's relationship don't have to be the same, but hey,
if I were to, if I really care a lot
about you and I want to be with you, that
mean they might be a point time where I need.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
You to take care of my mama.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
And if you treat your mama like that, I mean you're.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Gonna treat my MoMA like that. Now we're gonna have
a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I feel you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
I have a friend that I actually cut off like
back in the day because I didn't used to like
I used to try to turn a blind eye to
it for a little bit, but eventually I was like,
I can't be friends with you no more because I
don't like the way she will talk to her mom.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Sure would be so disrespectful.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Towards her mom, and I just couldn't believe sometimes that
I would see her talk to her mom like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
It was so off putting.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
You make me, you make my spirit feel a type
of way, the way if you treat the people in
your family.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Do you say you care about Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I agree, I agree, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Question number two, Hey, Dre and Lex Lex, I love, love,
love how funny you are and how direct you are
with things. Drea, I really love how you eat every
outfit up. More of the story is I've been with
my boyfriend for almost four years now, and I always
have to remind him to be romantic or to do
small gestures for me, like buying me flowers or asking

(01:26:25):
how my day was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Simple things like that, things I believe I always do
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Lately, it's gotten more serious with me asking him to
contribute more in the relationship since we'll be moving in
together soon. I recently noticed that I've been the only
one asking to spend time together or do anything in general.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
What should I do?

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
So let's break it down in the context clues. You
spent four years with a manager you didn't move in with. Ooh,
that's the first thing. You spent four years with a
man you didn't move in with, So that mean you
spend four years understanding what type of man he is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
How he treats his house is how you treat y'all's house.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
The things that's dirty in his house will be dirty
in y'all's house if you don't clean it, So you
have to Now I think she has to look at
what type of woman are you trying to be? If
you really want to continue to build four more years
together with this person, are you going to make up
for his faults? Because some things are not going to

(01:27:27):
change with him because the things that are makes him great.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
A man is only trying to be great, right, And
I think we have to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Stop looking at people's potential. Sometimes you just gotta look
at a person for what they are, who they are,
and accept it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Get there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Sometimes it's time to run stay with the person. Sometimes
you just gotta be like, Okay, this is who they
are because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
I think, and I'm not even talking about the flowers.
Why is he not even asking how y'all day was?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
That's a little weird.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
The Girl Girls twenty five years from now, twenty years
from now, they are going to be laughing at you
because girl, you stupid, Like this is the era of
being able to get the hell out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Yeah, and you you're an idiot. You're an idiot.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
The girls ten years from now you're telling your story
or seeing your story.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
She's an idiot. Yeah, you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
You really don't have to stay because this is you
spent four years with this man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Y'all didn't move in.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
I mean you got to come over to his place
and see exactly who he is for four years straight.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
The Queen there is periods.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
This is some good advice there was from a man perspective,
because I feel like we always believe an advice, you know,
and they'd.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Be like, oh, well now you got it from a man,
so exactly. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Obviously they know where to find you and all that
good stuff. But what you got coming up, let the
people know all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I'm out here journeying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
We got our collab with the Atlanta Dream here coming out.
I'm performing at the halftime show. We did clothing with them.
I'm wearing one of our jackets that were did with them,
the socks and learning dream logos, you know, more collabsed
with the brand. We got new music coming out, new
project coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
So that bag which is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Ready for World Cup next year, you know, getting the
businesses together so that we make sure that, you know,
we get some of that money that money hunt too.
But all in all though, I mean, if you really
want to know what I got going on, really tap in,
because I'm really just protecting culture, combining culture, always trying
to do something that keeps our people and people inspired.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
I love that, and I'm glad you're reminded me. The
World Cup is next year. It's going to be crazy
about to be wild already, know, thank you so much.
Amazing time up it up.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Period, and y'all make.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Sure y'all tune in next week. We'll see y'allo.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Poor Minds Records distribution. I got the all the ways
with me. Everybody, make sure you tap in. What's the
man of factory on that baby? Makeup must be from
Virginia Beach, Sit a rump, shake up make up brother,
double touch her playing with my paper girl?

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
You the pope lease her? You my biggest hater. If
you want to go, let's go. Oh the you wanna go,
let's go. If you wanna go, let's go the If
you wanna go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
The way I say thug at the Fizz.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
I get crazy off the mans half the things out
THEE did. I won't never get the cred until I'm
dead or decease. For my unreleased release, haters, make a
meme of me until my news nine leak for a Grammy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I'm going John Cena, the Bougie Brother, the Pretty Nails,
My Chanelle, Nina, her big dog Pepper Stepper, her big
Diva Sharon. Need a paum baby with lips like Gina,
So let me know what's the man affected on that baby?
Make up must be from Virginia Beach rom Shake or
make a brother double Dutch her playing with my paper girl,

(01:31:15):
You the Poelice her you my biggest hay that.

Speaker 7 (01:31:18):
If you want to go, let's come. Oh the what
you wanna go?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Let's go?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Oh then go, let's go, oh the go, Let's go. Hey,
I'm going all away, Hey, hey.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
Hey, thanks for listening and celebrating five years of the
Black Effects Podcast Network with us. Keep following, sharing, and streaming,
because the next five years are about to be even

(01:31:58):
bigger thing

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