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July 25, 2025 133 mins

This week on Pour Minds, we’re signing a peace treaty… but don’t get it twisted. This episode is all about clapping back vs. choosing calm, and navigating this wild digital world without losing your mind (or your account). Lex and Drea are joined by the hilarious KevOnStage, and it’s a laugh-packed sit-down full of real talk about internet beef, long booties, and why confidence will always win—even when the crack’s out.

We’re getting into cancel culture, content creation fatigue, and why Kev still posts even when Twitter tries to cook him. We’re breaking down internet drama, creator burnout, and how Kev keeps showing up online even when the timeline turns toxic. Lex admits she’s been on her rebrand journey, and Drea gets real about why keeping it cute sometimes takes more strength than clapping back.

 

and Kev keeps it all the way real about body image, filler rumors, and why he’ll never get a fake hairline (even if it rains).

By the end, we’ve dragged cookies, praised dad bods, and reminded everybody: you can be petty and peaceful… just not on the same day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever gotten any work done?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
If I've gotten any work done, and I still look
like this, what's the point.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
You're a churchman, but you're also a really now that
you said everybody likes.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
A little everybody, like.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Eighty percent of women had never received an you got
to go and ring that doorbell.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
My wife actually was a virginal when we got married.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
That is amazing, that's all she I'm the best there
ever is the best ever was.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I loved that for her. Though.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
On our wedding day there was a church mother who
was like, better not have no than that.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
She's had a long date.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We got back to that apartment.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
She was like me got thingsmel like, don't be a.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Within the man. You mean like sealing everybody just drinking,
we laughing. I walk up Dawn, Damn, I got long bodies.
You don't wear a belt.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I have a belt on. I'm weird.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
That girl said she got a Christian is a Christian BBL.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
There is a famous celebrity who like DM me delete
the video.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Another comedian hit me up like, yo.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 5 (01:35):
It's your girl LEXP and it's your girls trading the call.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Where a drunk mind speak sober.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
We gotta guess, We gotta guess.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Now listen now, y'all. Y'all know I do say this
a lot, but it be true. They have blown us up.
This has been because no for real, because we went
to l A. What was that about two or three
years ago? It was like two years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
We did athletes.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Yes, it was like it was a wild back. Yeah,
but I think Church he might have been three.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yea, y'all for suret three years ago, three years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
So when we went out there, we had did an
episode with to hear More and his wife and.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Then I was like, oh, I know these.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Coming, but we couldn't. We couldn't get our schedules right.
So ever since then, they had been blowing us up.
So we have a tar produce director, the content creator
all of the tours, all of the tours, and he's
on tour.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Y'all, thank you. I'm very happy to be here. I
love y'all. Me and Lex love beans. We be fighting
the bean fight. I do take all the last I don't.
I can't jump up the fight she is.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I got too many wild food takes. I can't add
no more to to You know, you got me.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Ate up on social media, right because when we did
the cookie review, they were.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So the video. Why did you let them beat me up?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't know they ate you up?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
But when you spent that cookie out, it felt it
sounds like rocks didn't concrete.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I know. Crumble was like, yo, we gotta stop. This
was rumble.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It was crumbling for real, like y'all didn't y'all didn't
have bad intentions to start their cookies really just like that.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
For us, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And they'd be getting killed all the time. That was
like the I promised at that time. That was like
the ten or fifteenth video.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I see. Yeah, I'm like, they really got it and it
hasn't stopped them at all. No, They've got bigger.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Like they do all of those collaborations celebrities and stuff.
And then it makes people like, oh, I want to
try to be nasty again.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
But a lot of the flavors sound very intrigued.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
Yeah, and I'll be like, oh, I think I want
to try to And now after our experience, I know it.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I haven't been back. They got a Benson Boone cookie
right now. I saw that they got a benc and
Boone cooking and stuff. So people the challenge like they're
trying the cookie, they start singing like him off, So
people just but the thing is everybody is we're in
a content creation area. Yeah, so a lot of their
sales are people just buying it to create content.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
They don't care if you're eating them, if you're enjoying them, you.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Still buyd And then people are influenced their followers be like,
oh I wanted the Kardashians cookie were getting destroyed, and
people were like, well.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Let me go try that. You ain't never liked it once.
I've never seen.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Never ever, it's always and then you want to go
taste it and see if it's as bad as people think.
And for them, sales is self yeah, as its ads organically,
like you can't pay for that type of market.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
So they got our because dra called me that morning,
she said, hey, let's do a crumbling and I was like,
when I spit out that cookie.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I that wasn't fake.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
It wasn't It was real reaction in real time.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Know what I took from it?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
The cookies that didn't taste like cookies or look like
cookies was the best one. Yeah, they they just need
to sell pastry.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, paste leave cookies, alonge.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know, you try to be like professional and stuff
online to a certain extent, so it's like, okay, I
don't care. I was like, I know, keV, I would
love to work with Kevin. One day I was in keV.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Missed cutting people out. I was cutting out of church
folk out. Girl, I don't like this.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Mother, I said, I know, Kevi's gonna be like, you
know what, she's a liability. I can't work with this girl.
I said, you know what, I got to do. What
I got to do.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Move over. Now, I got this.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I got this.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I feel like you have obviously you have done
so much, you know with the content creation stuff. But
now I feel like, because I mean you have Churchy
was amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We was in church, I had my life all that
one line.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yes, that's my favorite scene. Still, such a good scene.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I said, well, I love.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
That scene so much, y'all.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And I want to say dread and Les were so
professional because you don't like people don't know acting is
it's boring, like the set experience. It is very long
and arduous. You gotta come early, you gotta wait around
for a long time. And I be feeling bad, but
there's no fast way to do it. You don't know
when they they'll be ready for y'all. Seene y'all were pleasant,

(06:34):
y'all had y'all lines memorized. I think I don't know
how people you know, think of y'all. A lot of
times influences podcasters. People be like, oh, they don't be professional, y'all.
And ran y'all y'all, and we ain't had no good stuff.
Y'all did church, and when I paid for it, rooms
wasn't no nice stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Dress.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Y'all sat in the fellowsip hall of the.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Real church like it was real. And I was like,
I wish I had a trailer or something for the people.
People A guy I had no stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
We had a whole time because you had food though
we didn't have.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm gone people with snacks. I learned my first movie
we had made fifteen thousand. I had fifteen thousand dollars
I raised and people everybody nobody got paid. And them
niggas was like, I'm taking this whole snack freak. I
was buying new snacks every day they was clean. I
was like, God, damn, that's for tomorrow. Niggas was seeing

(07:27):
me out. But if you feed people, they will be
they'll be they'll be cool. You can't be hungry and
be waiting a long.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah. We were having a ball. Like we was out
there talking to people.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
It was my line was like three lines and I
was like out there studying.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
We were we were trying to like we gotta get
these down.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I was like practice. We was our moments. I was like,
this is it.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I love this. I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Then we were in La, so we said girl we
in lay. People started attaging. It's like is that drag lexus?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, I got something else I'm working on. I'm gonna
hit y'all. Yeah. We would love to be Yeah, y'all
were great and it was a good time.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I feel like we at this generation of content creators.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
We we work well together. Yeah, there's not like there's
no beef.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
People understand I'm gonna help you do your thing, you
help me do my thing, and we all can rise together.
And I think that is the previous generations weren't like that.
It was very like segmented and all that. But we
be like no, I got you. If we're available even
without the brand, people be.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Like no, yeah, because I think too with a younger
generation too, I think the disconnect with us and them
is we don't do stuff for like clickbait either, Like
it's a lot of what do they call it, clip farming?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, rage baiting clip Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I don't think like we don't do that like we
and if it is, it's something funny, it's not trying
to be like, oh, let's beef, let's act like we
don't fall out or something.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like yeah, no, no, no, I ain't going for that.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's none of that.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
So how do you pick the clips that you put
Because your little head be bobbling around? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Who you going to bed? Black women? Love it?

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Your little head, your little you be doing your little
bit head. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Anything that I feel like I basically scroll TikTok and
Twitter or whatever, and anything that I feel like I
would comment on, respond to and give my answer, I
just do it in video form, Like I just take
you know, three more minutes and be like, here's my
thoughts on this. If I can I have a rule,
if I can think of three funny things to say,
it's enough to make a.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Video, Okay, So I really can't.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
The only way I can create content at this pace
is to use the Internet to help me. I can't
think of this many things on my own with everything
else I got going on. So like today, this lady
put like a small piece of soap and.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
She was like, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, we're gonna put it together. Absolutely, But most people
just like, no, that ain't enough. Yeah that is enough.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I've done that.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just think about my thing, like, let me make
a video of And I was just about to take
a shower anywhay, and I just so happened to go
in there. My wife had put a big soup with
a little soup, and I was like, perfect, So I
just take one extra step and make a video and
then I go on about my day.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
That's really the only difference. I can't think of this
many things.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
But yeah, but I.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Think that's so amazing because a lot of the time,
I think one thing that social media has taught us
all is that we really all be living the same
life in the own mind.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
One thousand percent. I thought I was like unique, right.
I remember the video that really blew unique. The dude
had made a video about rain drops on a car
and like racing them and they connect to each other.
And I'm like, I never even said that out loud,
like I was a little kid in the car staring
out the window, like hold on wheat he did that,

(10:45):
And I made my video.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
About that, and everybody was like, okay, so what what
did I do?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
That was me because we all, especially black people, we
all had the same blanket, same everything was to stay.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Even across the United States, we had that same little blanket.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You had posted about a waterbed. Yes, my mom had
a waterbed and I used to put a little basket
a laundry basket because.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was young. I'm little then.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, at one point I used to be little ya
I put I used to in the ba and I
would get in it and I would act like I
was a pirate in her water bag. But I just
remember waterbeds being like luxury, like oh my gosh, you have.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
A water bag, like you got money. But it was
like who is sleeping on a waterbed?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I asked my dad about that after that video. I
was like, why did you like watch you buy that?
He said, the things I did with your mother?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
I said, hey, hey, yo, what aid? Why did you
buy it? He said, you ain't even have to do
that much work. You can get it going.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
He ain't sorry, Sorry, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I am a child, but a child, and.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I'm your child.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
When it comes to you, I am a I am
a children. Do not speak about my mother this way.
She gave if yeah, but yeah it was That's how
I got here. He said, I ain't got to do it.
And when your mother turned around, all right, I gotta go, man,
I gotta go. But I think it's so interesting, is
like all I did was talk about my experience. And
in my neighborhood, everybody's parents had water bed. But everybody

(12:17):
I'm forty two, there's people within ten years of me
on either side, all had that same experience. Some of
them's parents body, some of them was their bad. A
lot of people my age, we it was our parents' bad.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And it's just that thing over and over and over
and over and over again. I just want to stay
in your face. So when I have something to promote,
you'd be like, you know, he doesn't make.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Me laugh a lot, let me check out.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't care what you talking about. Like what what
Keff got going on.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's literally the only reason I make so many videos
because I want to stay in your face with positive mindset.
So when I have something that I need you to do,
you'll be like, oh, I know him, or I'm interested,
because y'all know, it's like it's tough to get people
to do the monotize, you know what I'm saying, Like
the YouTube stuff that makes money, but like the real

(13:04):
money is in something else, merch, live shows, TV shows.
That's where we're all trying to get to, which I
don't want to pause and say. I was so proud
of y'all for travel queens. I saw I saw that.
I saw y'all like posting that you were in Columbia.
I believe I was in Colombia. I was like, talk,
I know production, even if I don't see cameras. I like,

(13:25):
I no production when I see productions. And when I
saw that, y'all like, I feel like when any of
us win, we all win. It's not and like I
would love to make a travel show, but like on
the TV level, but when y'all do it, it's another
person from our generation, our type of content who's made it.
It's easier for all of us, not just y'all. Like

(13:46):
that's why I be like, what, we don't really hate
that much, So I don't want to even put that
out there. But I think people tend to be like
why they do that? Like older generations, why them? Because
they bring an audience. First of all, y'all did the
show the way talent does it, Like you need to
be interesting and curious, funny, captivating what y'all did, and
then you can also drive people to watch it. So

(14:06):
the networks are like, that's two for one. In the past,
you didn't have to have an audience. You just had
to have the talent.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Nowadays you gotta have everything.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You literally have to have it all.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
But I say that now I do disagree with you
a little bit because you're like, we're not hater. I'm
a hater. She open all the time on the show,
and I can't agree with I.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Can do that, who cast me get get high ass
out the white.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
So you're saying the quiet part out loud.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
I always do the thoughts, be whooping the ass every time.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But okay, you I was with you, but then I
can't agree with until you said that. But I will
say though I do agree because a lot of people
when we're in this space, they're like, oh, why are
especially like with journalism, I'll just that for example, why
are they having these people in this position and they
don't have a degree in that or they don't know

(15:04):
how to do that. But I think when we show
up and we do these jobs and we do them well,
it makes it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It gives opportunity.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
For everybody because there's people who they didn't get an opportunity.
Like me Andrea, we were trying to get in radio
in Houston and it just was not.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Happening for Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
I interned at ninety seven nine the Box, which is
like a big radio station in Houston. I need it
for like a few months and then I was like, yeah,
it's not working out. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
what's nicks. I actually used to do red carpet interviews
for this company called Urban. It was called one Urban
something in Houston back in the day. I used to
do that for a while. I was just trying to
find my nie what it was that I wanted to
do in media, because you know, we both went to

(15:44):
school for mass media mass communication.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I wasn't actually applying for jobs, and it's a
lot of times it's like you can't find a job,
just create your own. And I think like a lot
of times, like you said, when you get that opportunity,
it makes them looking like you know what, it's a
lot of people that do content creation are actually talented.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And I say that all the time. People are using
content creation and the Internet as a billboard and a
business card, not because that's all they can do. Like
that's how the Internet is the great equalizer. It's part
of why I started posting videos on YouTube. It's like
I was living in Tacoma at the time, and like,
I know, I can't get to La Atlanta, New York to.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Do these auditions.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like I got kids, I got a wife, I got
regular bills. I can't just I ain't got no bread either,
But I ain't got no way to do this stuff.
So but anybody can post on the Internet. So once
I started doing that, I felt like, oh, I can
get my own fans and then I can do my
own stuff. So I basically been running that same play
ever since. But I love that the Internet has allowed
other chalents because there's only so many spaces. It's only

(16:53):
a radio show in Houston has so many hours. They
got usually four hosts four blocks. That's sixteen that can
have the job.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yep, in all of Houston, right sixty big as Houston is.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, and then people who got the job, they're not
trying to lose the job.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
For that main issue.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
I feel like a lot of these radio stations and
media outlets they love to keep the same people in
rotation for thirty fifty years.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
That's where until you die. Get your old ass out
the radio. It's my time. There was no feeling origin,
that feeling oges. That's when my head started. Get your
old asshome. I got something to say. So I want
to know.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Sorry, y'all, I love this version of you. You think that,
but she says it, say it out loud. It's everybody does.
We all have been there.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
But I wanted to know, So, how do you deal
with Have you ever had any back like serious backlash
from anybody specifically that you made like a perody video.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
About the person.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Yeah, because it's funny because of maybe two weeks ago
or three weeks ago, we were actually talking about you
on the show because we were talking.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
About when you did the oreo.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah, it's like it's so funny to me because you
be cracking me the fuck up. But I always wonder,
has anybody ever said anything yes when you make these videos.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
So most of the time, I try to make my
videos with such lightheartedness that you know, I'm not approaching
you with malice, Like I try not to make people feel.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Dumb or embarrass you.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
And if everybody's piling on, I'll try to take another
point of view. Now, Angela knew you know you ain't
have enough cookies to make no full bathtob Now you
know you know I got to say something.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Now, I got to say something.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I haven't had like a celebrity be mad publicly,
although in my book I talk about this, there is
a famous celebrity who I cannot name, okay, who like
DM me delete the video now, like we ain't never
had no beef. Like another comedian hit me up like yo,
ex is x y Z is looking for you. I
was like yeah, no, no, no, no, That's why I added,

(19:15):
just because like, oh I want to get next. But
everybody online was making fun of this person like and
I was very light and it was still like my
wife was like, you gotta stop making fun of celebrities
and people because they ain't coming for you.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
So I was like, why me?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
But to answer your question, yes, people hit me up
sometimes like can you delete this video? I'll do it
because I don't want no smokes. I will absolutely, I
don't want no smoke. I can't fight. It ain't that serious.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
You might go whoop me and I don't really need that.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I don't even want you mad to see me, like
and plus, I'm gonna make another video today, like it ain't.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Never that important to me to fight over.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I want you to have a negative thing with me
over a video like I'm creating up creative enough, I'll
make another video. But I have deleted videos. I have
had people mad. I've had whole communities mad at me before.
And I feel like you can't be a creator at
this level of visibility and not pissed people off. Y'all
eat y'all up on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Or I'm off to yeahs, y'all, I get on like
he like me. You know they're so mean they are.
I can't as much as I'm a hater, I'm as.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I can't hang on you. You can't hate on me that
and see that there's not I'm not even ceasitive.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
I'm just gonna go on a rambow rampage and cluss
all your bitches out.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
All y'all really be John snow Out fighting every y
we will.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And then y'all just stopped all of a sudden after
travel queens are y'all was like, all right, I'm I'm
done with this.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I'm a sophisticated lady.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
Got a tap like represent hold on, hold on, long off.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Since times, you gotta know what battles to fight.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And they're not gonna let you land on Twitter, like
the whole point is for you. I feel like my
day is a number two because may.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
On your ass on Twitter. It's so crazy because camp
is so nice. But like you said, you don't you
make lighthearted comedies. So the fact that people be fighting
an issue with the stuff you say like crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I said that one day I was shooting all day
and I get on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm getting cooked like this nigga fun of the.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Remember we was in there and I was like, we
were long fighting. We took all our jobs. We was
because I hold on not too much right, not too
much on it. I couldn't. It was mad.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's okay if you don't like me. Why are you
trying to gather other people together? Like you know what
I'm saying. So it's like, but nobody is exempt like
I saw when they came for time and keep like, okay,
nigga been nobody, nobody is safe. You just anybody can
get it. I'm not gonna be exempt from either. It's
just like, but how do.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You deal with that? Because I think, like, I think.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
You do such a good job of like cause I know,
like we said, being in this space, when you move
on to TV, like people usually move on to TV,
they're like, well, I don't need social media anymore, but
you still are in social media and you're doing TV.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You do a lot on TV.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, So how do.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
You balance that with like not being canceled or saying
the wrong thing and still in.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That I don't know TV world.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
The thing is, I would love to not have to
use social media, but that's just not how the world
works anymore. Like it's in the contracts, even for my
Spectrum commercial, in my contract, you gotta also post it
on TikTok or Instagram or whatever. So that's part of
the reason why you get in the job. It's part
of the reason they hire you, part of the reason
you get paid what you get paid. The truth is,

(22:57):
like you, I'm sensitive. I see the stuff and I'd
be like.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Nigga, I ain't even buying nobody.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So what I do as far as responding to negativity,
I made it because I used to go back and
forth with people. I'm competitive too, Like Nigga, you ain't
fitna just go crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
That was me.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
My wife is like, keV you really, you gotta stop
because I'm a competing y'all do live shows, like you know,
if you can have a thousand people in the audience
laughing and two people ain't laughing, your eyes you find
them too, But what hondare you?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Y'll have to go why is you here?

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Why are you here?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Literally a thousand people are laughing and you two don't
think it's funny.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Social media is the same way.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
So I challenge myself before I respond to any negative comment,
I have to respond to ten positive comments on three
different platforms, and if I still have the energy after that,
then I can respond. And what I found is I
never have the energy after I do it, because I
got to focus on.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
The people who are showing love.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Because people who are negative stick out way more, but
there's way more people showing love, and I'd rather make
their day respond to them than to give somebody who's
hating or mad or patrolling me sometime and I just
don't have after thirty, I'd be like, sometimes I don't
even make it to thirty. I make ten or twelve,
and I'd be like, bro, I'm not even going back
and looking at it.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
See. What I used to do was like I would respond.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I would respond to the negative ones, and then I
would go to the positive.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Me feel better. But that's actually a better man.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Response to the positive first, Yeah, because I know, like
the TV show You Gotta Live, Twitter, you gotta you know,
you gotta tune in. Like again, we are driving people
to something they're not doing as much. When we were
a kid, we were turning the TV on and just watching.
We're watching the commercials. We're you know what I'm saying,
Like your used to be good though, Yeah, and they
used to be talking about stuff that you also wanted

(24:39):
to see. Now we're having to get people to do
something they are not usually doing and stop them and
then go and you know, focus on them. And they
are on social media, like social media. The media is
in the words like it's our media platform and it's
our direct to consumer marketing platform. So you kind of
gott to withstand the negativity. But that's that's why I
feel like is the first one I probably will leave. Yeah,

(25:02):
because it's the hardest to regulate. And you don't make
you don't make no money.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
You don't make money.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
You don't make no money from it.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
And on Instagram you can hide come from people you
don't follow, you can restrict words.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
There's a lot more safeguards. Twitter. They just cooking you,
and they just cooking you all day.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Mute.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I muted a tweet that I had made that people
were going in on me about I had made a
tweet about like Cardi.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm like, let Cardi have fun. That's how you're supposed
to do it.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
Hey Bird, ain't thirty five, stupid bitch you Why are
you talking?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Hey Bird?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
But I'm friend rising bird, And I was like, let
me mute this.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Mute it now, you're still gonna get to know the cat.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
When you're used to mute it, you wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
It don't And that makes it harder because I would
mute it.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Things like virus goes outside of the people you who
follow you into the world, and it's like y'all niggas,
y'all an trying to get the joke. You just want
to be mad, and now you can see all the mentions.
Not just delete the tweet. I mean, yeah, I just
don't want to hear nobody say that.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
And I need to get to that point because I'd
be like I said, what the fun I said?

Speaker 6 (26:13):
And this ship gonna stay up. I don't care how
much y'all trying to cook me. Y'all still ain't got
no money, that is right up.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Oh, but life is the people. Though.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I don't never tell people look how you look unless
they say some crazy to me, because I am known
for taking somebody's profile like d Well.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Sometimes people, especially men, I be like, no, nigga, you
know what you look the unmitigated gol. You don't have
an enlargeable body.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
You're not enlargible. You should not ever.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Have somebody because the first thing they're gonna do is
let me see what every.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Time you go to your photos and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm not eligible. I know, I know my bet, I
love my wife, I pick up my kids on time.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'm not largible.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'm bald and heavy set, I'm bad built, don't enlarge meat.
I'm the hang way by the way. That that that
dude who got up on y'all show and his crack
was showing.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Y'all's response, Oh that.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Was a real response. I love my worst nightmare.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I be cracked out for hell.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I was wanted to beat out to the couch just
so it could not I was gonna wear I.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Kept telling them to sit down. I was like, I
came around, what's up.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And I'm letting y'all get up because my crack be
out and I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Why you don't wear a belt?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I have a belt on. I'm built weird, the crack
be above the belt. Well, got a long booty. I
got long booties, long bad, and I don't have a
big waist like my wife was. I was walking by
my wife naked. We finish, get I got a shower.
She was like, you ain't got no waste the right way.

(28:02):
Your pants ain't got nothing to hang on to. That's
why your butt.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's like, like, I hat heel.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You hate Hell, hank Hell.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I thought you were talking to hate Hell. Like a
woman's type of shoes.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes, exactly, okay, okay, And she was like.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I get it. You can't help it.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Roast with with love.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
She was like, oh you got it.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Start high.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm cut high.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
It's really I'm cut high. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So, and the booty meet there's nothing even in there.
It's just I don't know why God did mind like that.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Eat some more.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
It ain't nothing. It's just it's just cracks.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But you can take the drake row, you can get
a little bbl you. But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
I don't know if it's worse to have no booty
or to have a rotund booty.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I kind of got a tear drop booty too. I'm
sitting on that thing.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yea, yeah, I'm quiet.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
And I ain't no dude hit on me.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
He said, you think I said, period, okay, but I
still got high button crack showing. So it's it's the
best of both. But having a fat butt as a
man ain't no benefit.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Well, no, I said, I don't know which one is worse.
I feel like you need to be somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
He has a little like that means he works out
like a high booty like the football players have.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, that's like a spotting booty.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I like a little squat booty. People just got that.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
But let me ask you that because you're on TV,
it's as quiet as it's kept. A lot of men
do get surgery fillers, things like that.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Have you ever gotten any work done? A little bolltops,
a little never got any work done?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
If I have, I do have my cheek balls.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
If I've gotten any work done and I still look
like this, what's the point because obviously it's not enough.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I appear in the world as I am.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
No Turkish hairline, no, no real cheeks, real man boob.
That's my titties. But they sit. You can't take them move.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
They don't drop low. They sit.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know what I'm saying. I'm not proud of them.
When I go to shave, I get the mirror down,
I'll be like you.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
So you would never get no work done?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Never? What's the point like it? I feel like it
is better for me.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
First of all, the double standard don't swing that way
for men like for women it's socially acceptable to have
work done for minutes.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
It's really not.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
And I found as a man, you if you enter
the world confidently, you can be bad built and still win.
It's not the same the way women have, you know,
beauty standards for men, it's not the same. You can
be confident, especially if you're funny. Nowadays, more women are
more open about how do you treat me? Emotional intelligence, kindness,

(31:04):
and confidence. I think a lot of men's mistake is
they think how they think about men is how women
think about men and women. I've seen this on Twitter too.
Women are trying to tell you like, actually, nah, it ain't.
It ain't really about that. Men, be like, man, shut up, women,
I'm telling you what I know what men, I'm like
the person you're trying to talk to is telling you
what it is like. Me and my brother in law
were talking about this was going viral on Twitter around

(31:26):
the brother Tom Drake did that thing. It was like
a man with super cut and then he was like
a body and like a dead body, and the dude
was like more most women appreciated dad, ye more than
like a cut up dude. So he did a poll
and men thought women would like the supercut dude, and
women actually prefer the dad vibe and most of them

(31:47):
were like he gonna be talking about macros and micros
all day, like he not gonna want to have a drink,
He's not gonna have a good time, Like don't, I
don't want to do all that. And men saw the
stuff and they were like, man, nah, And what ends
up happening is men get super fit, they get kind
him from.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Other men more than they do women.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Women don't look for that the way men think they do.
So I said all that to say long in the
way of saying to me, I'm cool. However I am,
like that's I'm just living my life.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I ain't got to.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Have it all.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Sitting high crack as well. But still.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
That city, I was just saying, vanity in me and
is just not attracted.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
No, I am the prize.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I just could never say it even if I were
the prize, like I'm never gonna verbalize no man like
like I don't. I don't think it goes that way.
And I think confidence is key. Women are attracted to confidence,
I believe, and you can rock it high like Chico
for example. I just saw his video on the way
over here.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
That he were watching it too on the sides.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Like I believe, I agree with him.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
You can confidently rock that and a woman will be
like a nigga.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
He own it.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's much better than you. You know, the fake hairline.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's even worse. That's we who are you?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
But when they go to Turkey, it don't be looking
at mad.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
B the tattoos that they don't.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
When it rains, you need an umbrella lying to you
can't stand on the mind, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Elliott said, I can't stand the ring. Yeah, that one, Yeah,
I did you know that?

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Stand there toos my mom, you can't standing on the mind.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Let that ship wash off. Let me see the.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Real I would die. I used to work with a
nigga with the full paint, like nigga paint than hair.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Let it go down the pop of the balloon.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
And she was like, oh, I don't like that you
have the Beijing or whatever, like, oh, this is a
status thing, Like if you get the Beijing, that means
you got money. Like he was, no, I feel like
you got money if you get the surgery. No, but
he was trying to convince himself and everybody else in
the room said it was like a status thing. Was
like where I'm from, if you get this and me,
He's like, I guess he was trying to say, like

(34:03):
you got extra money.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I've never heard. I mean that's I got five more
than you. Broke.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Now spread me up and hold the hold the newspaper
down and get my line.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Chrispy. Nah, I'm never doing never. I can be bald.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
That's the that's the proper thing to do. If you
start losing your hair, is a man go bad.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
God has decided for you.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
The Lord did this.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I'm big, I'm forty two big on your un
is bald A little heavy said let me see that ball, youngster.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
But listen, you aren't the same category as Morris.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, well you are.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
The sentiment is there.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
But Morris, you know I feel you.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Not appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Also, you know is more understand me with about black
men over forty a ball at a ball, but that's.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Where it is successful levels.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
But his bought in my ball different balls. You know
that nigga bore is still that nigga wars.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
But I'm saying, though, it's okay to go ball.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
But they gonna make you more. Just you just a ball, nigga,
and that's more.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You wanna be a you could. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
That's why you gotta be good at other stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
You gotta be funny.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
You gotta be funny.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
These niggas do not be That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
You gotta be funny. You gotta be cool. You gotta
be fun to be around. You don't be a weird nigga.
It's also, oh my god, just.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Don't be a weird nigga.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Let's put that at the time. Don't be a weird nigga.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Man, please, you don't even got to do nothing else.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Just be cool. He chilling, he don't bother nobody.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Weird nigga ruined the whole vibe of the whole everything
in an instant.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Just don't be a weird nigga. Man, that's smart enough.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Always killed the.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Vibe, always killed the vibe. Everybody was like, I'm finna
go because we sing them ruin the whole little.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You know, I mean, like selling everybody just drinking, we
laughing like we are no nigga.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Walk up, damn what size and titties And everybody's like,
and why.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Are you looking at y'all looking like that? Because they
look that look like terres damn bro.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
You you Dre, I follow you on Instagram, that's what.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And now you want to leave?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, I'm going now.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
I don't never want to leave.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I gotta go because the whole energy gone with one
persons enjoying one sentence.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Kill the whole vibe. Just be saying weird your niggas
the vibe. But you know what are we drinking to that?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
You need another one, Dre? Okay, cool, whatever you feel.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
Well, since we're talking about Bald brothers, we're gonna call
this one the Bald Bro. A tour coming up call
the ball brother So this one is in tribute to that.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
We have a little bit of gin for Kevan and Cav.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Okay is perfect.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
People think my name is Kevin, No, it's.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Cav, so sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
How much of the gin have you had?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (37:37):
So this one we're gonna call the Bald Bro in
honor of Kev's upcoming tour the Bald Brothers. All right,
So he has a little bit of gin in his
Drea has some tequila, Lex has somebodka. We have some
watermelon puree, a little bit of lime juice, and then
it's topped with some tonic water. This one is dripping
over here, wet wet, and then we have garnished it with.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Did you have the gen it's dripping. It was the
perfect file.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Nothing, no, be yourself. Church wentn't got that wet wet too.
Let's talk about it. Church's churches full.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Amen God, it was baptized.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
So we're gonna garnership with a lime wheel and a
mint sprig and that is the ball bro So cheers.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
It's good too crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
She actually said Kevan because I wanted to ask him
about that, and I forgot because it was somebody that
did something.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
It was one of them, like you know how you
pay people.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
To do the all the cameos cameo.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, you had paid somebody for a cameo because that
was a brilliant marketing.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
But somebody had did it and they were like cave
on stage.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
They weren't even playing Bond Stitch. It was.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I said, man, I should have liked I never thought
you could miss mess that name up that many ways.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, Redman was like Van Cavan.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I think it was James Worthy like Avon Stitch and
I'm like, brother, you James, I know you didn't see
those letters in there you ain't seen no t h
And I'm like, brouh, how are y'all seeing?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Even if you've never seen those letters?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Not feel that was the most entertaining marketing. It started
to get to the point so we were tuning in
to see how they were gonna say your name.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
But it's funny because I get it.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
I feel like, because people be calling me dreamy cold.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Dreamy call. Like I had people DM me like.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
What's up, dreaming, and I'd be like, excuse me, dreaming.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Dreaming call any call exact.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Dreamy as the yeah, and then called separately, and I'll
be like, that's funny special.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Because dream is no le.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
The funny thing about it is like we say our
names at the beginning of all we be like, hey,
what's up is your girl?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Leg speak your girl Drea Nicole.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
When people call you Drea, its dreamy, call dreamy and
Drea Drea.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
At least you can if you never, like watched the podcast,
maybe just saw your Instagram or Twitter handle, I could
get Drea Dreamy call You've never seen nobody else name that,
Like people believe stage is my last name government, but
that is some people.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
That's what I asked, who have you ever met?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
That?

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Last name is stage. They'd be like, so your name,
what your name is? My name is Kevin?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh my god, they say, come on stay ere.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I never looked at that and solve that.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, come on, Oh god, I got it.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I never saw Covan like I never did I so
he did the cameo thing and I'm like, oh, they
are really seeing on and now we know.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I get Kevan stage like Kevon stage, like dreaming Cold.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
That's an easy way to know people don't know me
for real.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
But it's also like you do kind of because the internet,
like if you don't hear me say my name, I
don't say my name, so they're just reading it.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
So I appreciate it. If you know me, if you
if you say it wrong or right.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Is dread under store, never dream you have that.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
You have never told me that. I swear.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
I have gotten so many messages over the years, y'all
from people Green Call or dreaming Underscore you.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Have gotten out? I don't.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Because Le's got the underscore underscore everything.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
And then three E's at the end be fucking people
up to.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
That is like dre and the call with three E's
bit is just three e's because dre and the call
with one E wasaking, like, okay, we need to add Okay,
i'n't get into the first So, but the first topic,

(42:49):
we really want us to talk to you about a
I taking over, especially with us all being content creatives,
Like it has been such an influx of AI videos
for like I would say the past three weeks or so,
so many people have been having a hard time deciphering
between what's real and what's fake. So how do you
feel about AI technology and it growing so rapidly, and

(43:12):
how it's impacting social media, and like, are you afraid
even maybe that somebody might steal Yoshi's I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I thought as artists we were safer than we are. Yeah,
I thought, okay, automated you know phones and computer is programming. Okay,
that's gonna be automated. AI is gonna take those jobs
we create art. I thought, oh, robots will never do
music facts. Yeah, they make music. Yes, they're making beats,
Timberland uploading beats. Like I was like, okay, music, ain't

(43:42):
say ro abouts playing chess. Comedy's not that far off.
Comedy is heavily created in cultural norms. All this stuff is.
I mean, if you can pull from the Internet and
I generate a lot of content.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Tweets, videos, if you're feeding a computer all of.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Me, they can make it cash.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's like pushing t raps about a lot of stuff,
but he gonna hit cocaine.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Right, So if a computer takes in all pusha T's lyrics,
they might be able to write a verse the way
he does. So I think it's also moving faster than
I realized. I feel like last summer, the Will Smith
eating spaghetti video was so obviously AI and this summer
it's like, well it ain't.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
They're like, hey, I met the cookout for Fourth of July.
They have the muckbans. Yes literally, I'm telling.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
You them hands gonna give it away right now. But
in a few months they won't have a podcast. And
they have done it to where it looks like me
and you acts like me.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, and they're doing different things that mean you probably
would never do or haven't thought of, but it's us,
like chicken bone and.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Green that part.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
But before she did that, like when you're just scrolling
do this, I didn't click.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
I didn't click. It didn't I didn't clock.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
She wasn't real until she put the whole chicken in
glass and I was like, wait, so had she not
done that, I wouldn't I wouldn't have immediately known.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I was just talking to my wife about this.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I was like, what is difference between like AI and
like CGI? Like movies have done this for a long time,
and I think it was just access, Like you had
to have millions of dollars to do that fifteen twenty
years ago. Now you just text Google. You need a
five ten dollars subscription and you can do whatever. And
low key as embarrassing as it is, A few done

(45:31):
caught me slip it.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
I got caught so bad. I got caught in AI
so bad. So y'all know I'm a down South girl.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I love crawfish. It was a.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Restaurant and it was pink. Everything was pink and the
crawfish were pink. And it was like, this is for
women to come eat crawfish, come have a good time.
I screenshot since the Kells, like why would somebody invest
millions in a stupid ass, pink ass restaurant. I was
going off on her messages like why do people have
so much money and do still? So she was like, friends, Auntie,

(46:01):
this is may. She said, Auntie, this is a fake restaurant.
It's AI, babe.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I was going off.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
The bird was real.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I was going off.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Question though, I won't y'all not tell, Like I feel
like every time I see an AI video, I automatically know,
like they have a lot of these AI videos going around,
like these older black women get like dating in relationships,
and I can tell by the.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Inflection in their voice, the way that they're speaking.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
And then I can also tell just by like the
way they the manner reasms, and just the way they
look like they look fake.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Here's a thing.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I feel like, if you're moving too fast, you won't
catch it.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Like if you like.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
You analyze, And I also don't know what to look for,
so you you like, the fingers give it away a
lot the inflections. But sometimes I'm just looking for a video.
I'm not not checking. My My sister in law sent
me a video of an AI video. She's always sent
me funny stuff. And the white lady tried to jump
off the boat and hit the platform and fell in things.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
She was like, this is funny. I was like, this
is not real.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
She's like, oh, like she didn't know, and I can't
be mad because like I ain't really shared nothing, But
there's been a few pictures that I'm just moving fast.
The internet's talking about I'm doing my regular thing and
I'm not really taking the time to decipher what makes
it real or not. And then the pace is better,
Like you really got to know what to look for now.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
I think we talk about today.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
In twenty twenty five, another year, another five years, it's
gonna be nearly indistinguishable from actual human being, especially if
it's not like if it's y'all or me, it's easier.
Kevin might not say that, Drea or LEXI say that,
But if it's just a person that you don't know,
you might not do an AI thing.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Some company took Dreya's image.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Did you see that, your image of you sitting on
this couch. They changed the way your mouth was moving
and they were selling some type of ad or something.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I oh, I meant, I thought I sent it to you,
but I have reported it and flagged it. I don't
know if I can pull it up now. But they
I mean, you could tell it was fake because they
were trying to sell something. But the way your mouth
was moving, But ken, is there a way that we
can like trademark ourselves.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I believe you can. I think the problem is.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Anybody can because your public figures and there's so many
images of you, and so many pictures of you because
you produce a podcast every day. Anybody could put had
you bet put dre in the cole and lexp and
fisherman's hat and put lungs on silvers. And if it's
if it's a company, you'll catch it. But if it's
just a person in Oklahoma, you might not see that person.
And by the time you go to sue them. You
know what I'm saying, like the amount of work it

(48:55):
will take to find them, it's gonna be too much work.
And that's just one person. Tens of thousands people are
doing it just for fun. They're not making money off
of it. Y'all gonna be like, I mean, it's it's
like the fake pages of us. Yeah, there's so many
on each platform. You can't even keep up with this,
So you just be like, man, it's.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Scared to think about it.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
There's like twenty of each of us. There's probably twenty.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Thirty fake pages per platform, maybe fifty, so it's like,
and that's what you can see if you start your
name not mentioning who's like using you for catfishing and
all that stuff. But I feel like our generation we
have been through the absolute most and everything. We've been
through so many technological advances. This is just another one
that we're just like, dang.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You about to go through World War three.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
I hope not, but I feel about our brain is giving,
but I'm weak because I really do feel like that
shit is crazy.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
We really have been through so much as a generation.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
As millennials.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
We have been through Columbne happened.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, we thought it could be nothing could be worse
than that, And now.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Nine to eleven was like, okay, it.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Can it can't get worse than it.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And it's just like thing after thing after thing for us.
But every generation is felt like that, like Vietnam War.
Their generation felt like that World War, Like everybody felt
like that.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But we are right.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
When Kalami happened.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
We thought like like, like.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You said, what could get worse than then? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
And that's why I said, now we look at it
like light work, because when school shootings happened, we're like,
oh my god, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Crazy after Sandy Hook happened and it was them kids
and nothing really changed after that.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I felt like in the moment.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Like low key y'all heard about the Texas floods, like yeah,
we like, obviously I don't know if you are a
Democratic Republican, but like we didn't. I see, I sue,
but I said Democrats. That was like that's what they get.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
The babies they're like sixth grades.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Oh, Like I think the Internet has us to humanity,
Like maybe their parents voted for Trump, but that don't
mean I'm not gonna feel bad about children losing their
life in the flood, Like we should never get that
bad that we don't feel bad for innocent life.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I think growing up with politics though, like being a Republican,
it was just like you are the opposite of what
I support, but you're not like out for blood.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's just like you believe in this and you believe
in that.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Now being a Republican or being a Democrats like you are.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
We can't be free. I can't fuck with you, but
it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I remember when when Obama went against John McCain, Like
I never felt like if John McCain won, America was
gonna fall apart or Romney.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Really like or if I had a friend or something
that felt like, oh I diied more with Republican views,
that's fine. We could still be cold back in them days,
back in them day before Trump.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, it's a humanity.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, those choices end up directly impacting people's life, like
Trump equals ice, deportations and stuff like that, like medicaid,
like and this is like, you know, I imagine we're
doing well in life. That doesn't always extend to all
of our family and friends. People be needing stuff like

(52:21):
that to survive. And even if it isn't us personally,
you like, especially black people, we are usually about the
greater good. Even black people who get rich often still
vote for the you know, the goodness of the black community.
Even if you know, Republican tax credits might help somebody,
you know, money wise, but you can't.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
You don't vote against your community.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And I feel like with with Trump in office, it's
like you he doing everything he said he was gonna do,
but it somehow it's worse than even when he said it,
Like the terrorist thing.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
We sell merchant stuff. It's like, dog, I can't buy
no shirts.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I could not I can't even charge I would have
to try hundred dollars to make it make sense. So
we just didn't do it. People are losing their jobs.
Unemployment is up for black women the most of all demographics,
Black women's unemployment is the most, and they generally are
the most educated of any demographic, especially in comparison to
black men, So it doesn't correlate that the most educated

(53:19):
has the highest unemployment. But that's the choice that you make.
And it's really be like, man, what do we what
do we do?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Because honestly, nowadays, voting Democrat or Republican is literally life
or death.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
It is literally literally no hyperbole, like for real, no.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Hyperbolero versus way. Yeah, like, what type of decisions are
you making? Are you even making an informed decision? I
think a lot of the time people base their political
views and who they decide to vote for based off
of what they see on social media. People don't do
any real research, they don't read books, they don't do
what they need to do to make an informed decision.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
People are stupid. Oh, I didn't want to say that.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
No, do like I.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Needed that because it's like you think that people are
operating with the same mindset as like the Medicaid thing.
They're like, then in legals they qualify for Medicaid, they
don't even they taking that away from American citizen.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Right. So it's like when we was in high school,
you knew there was.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Like, right, why the fuck is he called things?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Ain't nothing big and beautiful? But shut up? Girl?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah the name of it for me.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I'm an easy, breezy, beautiful cover girl. Bitch.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Ain't nothing big and beautiful about that goddamn bill.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Shut it down. I'm so tired. I'm tired him.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Oh man, he just it ain't even like barely been
six months.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
We got three and a half on me.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Do y'all remember when when like Clinton or Bush or
Obama was president. I feel like there'd be months go
by where I didn't think about the president at.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
All, like them talking to voting literally terms again.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Then we come back around Obama, Gray.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Was skinny, sdunking. Then the waves they wasn't waving. They
was just laid down.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
The wave wasn't wave.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Wasn't that when he first came in.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
It was.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Him. I'm seeing Trump every day every day.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Man, beefy. Oh, the girls are fighting.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The girls they talk about are you going to deport Elon?

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
We're not living in a real world. It's not real,
That's what it feels like. It feels like we're not
America be the most unstated, perious place ever.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
People be like, y'all need to move to.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Where where we're gonna go? My grandma stay here? Well,
I mean not to see my my grandma. You mean
to move somewhere. I can't see my my grandma. She
made peach cowboys. I can't just go to Watermolla. She
ain't gonna go over there. She's scared.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
They ain't even Ingredy.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
They're not gonna have the right peaches. You need the
right just for that stuff. Bro, I'm stuck. That's where
I'm from. I can't go nowhere. I live here, My
stuff is here. I need's got school, my stuff, my
car is here.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
The same like I was in Jamaica.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
My best friend is Jamaican and like her family still
lives out there, So she goes out there all the
time because they have like a few compounds and stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
So she goes there. She stays there for like months
at the.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Time, and she's like, and while I was out there,
that's when the bombings happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, weeks ago,
and so she was like, well girl, you know, we
don't gotta go back, bit y'all gotta go. I got
a new poor mind. My mama live here, Like I
have to go.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Back and it be funning, like we don't.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Like we're just going about our day and it's like
America bomb iren. We didn't why didn't even want?

Speaker 4 (57:19):
They're like death to America.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yo, soccer practice.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
I ain't have nothing to do with that, man.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
And I think that's all I'm part about it, Like
this is not like we are not in the group
chat altogether, and they lick the group chat the politicians.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Nigga, bro, this is war, y'all linking the war group chat.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Ain't talking about drop that motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Hey, y, we did not agree to this. Can we
do a peace treaty please? That's what I'm talking about,
Dreamy threats peace treaty right now.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
I definitely need to name the episode.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
You gotta watch the whole episode to even understand why
that makes it.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Got into I'm like, oh God, because I do so.
We all are scared of AI, you know what. I'm
scared of it. But I want to find a way
to embrace it because honestly, if I'm being real, if
I'm like seventy years old, I wouldn't mind having a
staff and having a team and having an AI lex
P and having love lex.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
P still going and they do it for you.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah, and it's running and it's things that I approve of.
But I wouldn't mind it because I feel like I
need to be around for years and years and years.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah, after I'm going, y'all still need to experience.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
But then when you're gone, they gonna be saying stuff
you never said.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Right, But it's gonna be like Apple, you know, like
when Steve Jobs died, they feel like Apple just went,
hey why, But they don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
They don't know the difference.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Also, if I ain't here no more, not my person.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
With them, Yeah, I have fun I'm dead.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
Yes, So I feel like I would like that's what
my grandchildren to worry about.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
That's not my problem.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
But I do feel like, yeah, I feel like I
would like to find a way to take advantage of
it to work in my favorite That's all I was like,
is there a way that we can like trademark ourselves
and our likeness and everything about it to where it
can be like you can't do this, but it's just.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
I kind of feel like maybe, But then I feel
like if it was a way, then they wouldn't be
using Rihanna's boys, they wouldn't been in Kanye's voice, Beyonce's boys.
Like they're using these people who are way bigger public
figures than we are, you know what I mean? Because
it's early, Yeah, working on that ship right now, trust

(59:57):
and belief, trust and believe. She went it's about to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Called Beyonce's law bit that AI ship. Jay Z is
like not my wife. You know, we don't play about
his wife. They're already working on it. So it's gonna
trickle down to us. We gonna get to Okay, So
I want to I have to talk to you about this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I am so intrigued about this topic. I talk about
it a lot on Love the Speed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
So do you believe that people are using God on
their platform for like clicks or like is it really genuine?
Because I feel like there's been a you know, the
girls are coming like, oh I'm a Christian. God has
saved me. I'm different now and it being a churchman.
But because you're but you're a churchman, but you're also

(01:00:44):
a realist.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, that's the only thing I can say. I couldn't cuss,
but I said it was right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
So do you feel like people are trying to be
like you know what? I see keV and he be
selling them churches out. I want to sell a church out. Yes,
say hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I can't speak to excuse me. I can't speak to
their intentions. But I think since the dawn of time,
people have turned to the church God for money.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Church has always welcome me right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
It's like an R and B act In the nineties,
you had your moment, they would go back to do
a church play. Member Mace was like he was rapping.
He was a pastor. He was rapping. He was a pastor.
Now he got a podcast, like if you follow his career.
People come back to church all the time. I think,
I don't want to say this, but it's sometimes I

(01:01:36):
feel sometimes it feels like an easy lick because it's
hard to criticize somebody for God's and it's only really
for God to know your heart, whether you're genuine or not,
and it's not beyond people to trade on God for money.
And that's not even like people switching. I mean like

(01:01:58):
pastors musicians. I can't say no names, and I probably wouldn't,
but being in the back, being backstage with some of
these concerts and stuff, you realize a lot of those
gospel artists and pastors are more like me and how
they approach life, but they are never comfortable being that
open because of how people will feel. So it's like

(01:02:20):
you really creating a caricature, not a character, a character
to do work or worship or pastor that you know
people will accept, and you know you can't be your
true self. And that's low key the reason I am
the way I am because I feel like Christianity has
gotten a bad rap because people are like, I need

(01:02:40):
to do this because this is what people think of
christian is like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
And that's why I love Kirk so much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Like Kirk, he does a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
He lets his failures and his faults be public, but
there's very few people who are like him. Like he
cussed his son out, he didn't put that out publicly. Yeah,
he cuts good, that wasn't the day because he miraculously
he was an expert in cut, so that not annoyed

(01:03:10):
that on you, but I think handed, yeah, no, but
I feel like he's also been chastised since the beginning
of time just for how he made music and stuff.
So I feel like, for me, it's about authenticity. This
is who I am. I'm also a Christian. That's why
I would say I'm a comedian who's a Christian, not
a Christian comedian. A Christian comedian feels like you can

(01:03:31):
only talk about church, you can only talk about God.
I talk about eating coci because I like to, and
absolutely you should, and people be like you a man
of God, and then I eat that cat and eat
that cat, and it's my wife, and it's my wife
that I've got to make sure she's happy, you know

(01:03:52):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
So I feel like you got to be if there's
not gonna be a may be trying. And I'm not
gonna like keV.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
When I first the first time I saw you make
a joke about that, I was shug.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I said, I wasn't like dra was like he always
talked like that. I love keV.

Speaker 6 (01:04:17):
I love him down fucking funny, I be cracking up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I feel like you don't see people talk, especially in church, right,
But like I think I don't know the exact staff,
but it's eighty percent of women had never received an orgasm. Yeah,
and they can because they don't have That is you
got to go and ring that doorbell. You're going to

(01:04:45):
go busting through the doors past the doorbell on the
way in. You're just kicking in at the kit kit
kit kit kit kid kid pumps, pumps, pumps.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
But a lot, yes, because I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
That first lady is sad she got that rose, not
of sharing regular that rose, not of sharing that regular rose.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
And I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Here for it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I'm talking about me and my wife had a podcast
called The Love Hour, and I learned a lot in
that moment. And I think that's part of the reason
why I am so open is because I want people
to be for real. Like I literally my nieces and
them say you be for real, uncle, but like, be
for real. I feel like people can relate to you
more if you don't appear perfect. Right, I'm not perfect

(01:05:44):
in anything. I'm happily married, but I'm not perfect. I say, nigga,
I'm a Christian. I watch Powerless in a rap you know,
whatever it is, and I think there's more people and
I have a lot of pastor friends who I realize
they just are like caged by the thoughts of the saints,
like they can't really live their life for fear of

(01:06:04):
what people will say. And I'm not gonna live my
one life all afraid of what people will say, because
it doesn't really matter what I do anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
No matter what I do, they gonna be mad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I remember they killed me because I had a drink
at the reunion concert. I had a margarita, and let
me tell you, I was up there, and the funny
thing is, I wasn't. That's my He's so talented. I

(01:06:37):
will connect y'all with her. Y'all will get along. She
is so it is a blessing from the Lord that
we crossed passed, so funny, so talented, brilliant actress, brilliant everything.
And we get She's like the female version of me,
church kid, but literally the same. We get along so well.
But the concert was at the Forum. I was at

(01:06:59):
the Forum two months before that watching Bruno, Like they
sell liquor there and I wasn't gonna drink, and then
not because there was a church concert. Because the lines
were longer than they normally were. I was like oh nigga,
I'm this line's crazy. So my brother in law brought
me margarita. And I didn't even think twice about it
because I have a drink from time to time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
But people were living. How you drinking that old church?
We drink the forum? This is it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I paid for a ticket. I gave them money, like
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Get free tickets to that. I bought those tickets entertained me.
And so what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I was talking to a pastor backstage on my church
tour and he was like, brother, he was he didn't
live in la he had been. He went to that
concert so he could drink in peace because he had
a church in a different city.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
The pastor and he was like, keV, I let you
out there to hang the drive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
But I appreciate what you did because I had to
go to a different city and that concert came to
his city.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
So I'm like, what, you literally flew to another city.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Just enjoy himself, just to enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
That's insane. And I didn't want to tell church people
grow up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Jesus drunk.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
He turned water into wine wine.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
They give cup yes, and we take a little lot
of work, but honestly, all seriousness.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
So because like recently I've been probably it's probably been
about six seven months now, I've been going on the
like personal religious journey myself, going to church.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I love for you, yes, And you know I have been.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I go to therapy and I changed my counselor to
a Christian therapy. It's like I've been doing you know,
I'll be reading my Bible. I love this, but it's
very private because honestly, like with my platform, I'm not
changing who I am and I'm just strengthening my faith.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Here's the thing about that, right, I love this for you,
and I'm very happy for you, and I'm glad you
shared that. I think you should be able to share that.
The reason you probably don't feel comfortable is because you
don't have a You are still who you are, right,
and it's like you're not gonna do a one eighty,
but people are. Now you go to God and you

(01:09:12):
still cussing, You're still drinking and stuff like that. And
it's like in the Bible they talk about the Pharisees
and the Sadduceees a lot, and those were really the
thing the people Jesus was the most frustrated with in
the Bible wasn't the sinners. It was the overly religious
law people that God that Jesus was like, y'all, are
y'all are so lawful that you don't care about people.

(01:09:35):
It wasn't the gay people, or the sinners, or the
or the harlots. Jesus never got nearly as frustrated with
them as he did with the overly religious people.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
So the harts are safe, well, I mean I'm safe,
bitch talk about them now.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
I just I grew up in church, so for me
it's always been I'm gonna cuss in. I'm a praise
I grew up in Catholic church too. That's why I
feel like I might have me a little drinks. Well,
because we drunk real wine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Yeah, we drunk real wine. I think cran beer juice.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
I grow drinking real wine too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
And I was a child, by the way, children.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
To be having a long put it down little and
don't know Catholic Actually.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
The funerals that belong no Catholic church is actually short.
I feel like no Baptists. I went to a Catholic
funeral though, That's what it was. I went to and
it was so it's no that yeah, yeah, And I
was like, okay, y'all, I think she up there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I think she was gonna they do the road up.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Sometimes you are like zero, wrap it up, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Have to fuck with me, Okay stop.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I'm glad you talked about this because that makes me
feel you know a little more.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
But but I know I always tell you, I feel
like you should be ouping about your journey, your walk
with Christy at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Why not share it with people?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
And there's no there's no like like category like people think, oh,
say you found Jesus this week and you died and
you went to heaven. You're not going to be in
a more or less heaven than somebody who was safe because.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I got it in before you took me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
And you know I was coming up there all found
and I did it myself before you took me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I should be up at Chalon.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
You got that headed to the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
You want a special heaven.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I found christ seven days before you knew you was
on took You need to be like you know what
you did, Joe thing girl, come on up and be
I p.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Send me here. I'm supposed to r ip I just
kicked the club. See why. That's why I was struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I love it. It's all a struggle. We all struggling.
The Bible says all have sin and falling short of
the glory of God. Oh so I'm no better than
anybody when we fall down, but we get up.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
Yeah, in the same it's just a sinner down, sail down.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Come on dreaming, you know, dream all I am.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Yeah, I see a lot of people do stop. You
know what's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Because God forgives all and he knows my heart. One
thing about I wake up every day, I pray, I
praise God. I listen to my gospel. Play with you
this morning. Yeah, bone cuss and I'm gonna have me
a little cocktail.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
You know it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
When I moved to La, somebody challenged me on cussing
in a way that I had never been challenged before.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
He was like, he wasn't even a Christian. He was like,
what is worse using what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Language decides is a cuss word, or like cursing someone
talking negatively about.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Tearing them down?

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
You know, church people, we can tear somebody down without
ever using a cuss word, whereas cussing is, you know,
relative to culture, who you are. Like I grew up,
you could say pissed off, and to some people that's
a cuss work. I couldn't say that, right, See, some
people couldn't. My wife grew up. You couldn't say live.
You had to say story. Lie might as well been
a cuss word. So I think that's culturally differ. Friend,

(01:14:00):
what that word means, But everybody knows what it means.
If I if I, if I were to tear you
down on purpose, sure, or tear you down, that's way
worse than cussing. So he was like, he was saying,
I think cursing is like cursing somebody, not the words
you speak, because you can cuss at somebody in love, right,
You can be joking with your homeboy, I hate you
or whatever the thing is and still mean love. And

(01:14:22):
I really sat with that. I was like, dang, I
never thought about that. I was, and listen, I was
so holy than now. I was like, I don't cuss
fully fornicating all through high school, but I don't in
high school.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
Dreaming Cold was summer of ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
I was climbing Paul is about to take me out.
I was climbing in this Why you can't tell people
who's funny nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
You know, I'm not letting you down.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Whatever I was climbing in the window, I was, I was.
I was this before list met Melissa, Queen. I loved
my wife, but before I met her, I was in pasta.
I was climbing in the deacons uh house, smood smashing
his daughter, his granddaughter in the daytime.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Melissa.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
No, no, this before List, before queen or my queen,
before when I was a.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Safe and I was a sinner and somebody else so
but I felt so saved because I didn't cuss.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
I'm like, cav what is your I cussed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I just didn't cuss regularly at that time. I didn't
cuss at all. But I fully had sex all the time.
And it's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
What that makes you. I wasn't doing it. I wouldn't
say it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I was like, god, how I mean, I ate a
little couchie from time to time, but I ain't gonna cuss.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I'm never gonna let us forget that that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
First cutie I ate. It tastes like a nine vote battery.
I was like, I'm out a non vote. That thing
stung my tongue. I said, she said, try it. I said,
I tried it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I was like a shark tank. She was younger, we
was in tenth grade. She didn't know. I felt like
a shark. I was like, this is too spicy for
that reason, I'm out. I said, I gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I was like, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I think has some rotch on it. You know, But
as I got married, you know, it was a different scenario. Yes,
so I think it's just my whole point is, you
pick and choose what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
And I realized when I was young.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Saved, I was so morally like, my whole point was
to feel more safe than you. And I'm trying to
decide for myself, like I don't do that and you
do this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
It's all. It doesn't matter all exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
I feel exactly. I agree for years though I know,
but I guess for me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
But the breach will tell her you hit different. No,
it don't hit different. It don't because I'm just listening.
But I'm learning on my own, my own path, and
I'm also doing what I feel comfortable with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
But you know, when you told me that, I felt you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
When I heard you, but I still have to be
comfortable with it. Yeah, and it's it's a journey, you
know what I'm saying, because I still feel like again
I'm sensitive because as soon as I talk about my
journey and somebody be like, lex you still talking about this?

Speaker 7 (01:17:19):
Someone say look, bitch, I'm at churchto ad nigga, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Here, bitch, And when I leave you big back, slopping,
slow foot, knocked need ass oh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Hose be knocked mee.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
Nave like I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Drell heard all that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
It was like, you know what knocking I'm saying, be knocking.
I'm a war judging everybody else what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
So I'm a work in progress. But I'm also learning
to take my time. I think at the beginning, when
I first started going, I was like, oh, I have
to tell everybody, I has to show everybody. Was like, now,
I'm like, you know what, I'm doing this on my
own part. Whenever I'm ready to talk about it and
talk about my growth in my progress, I'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
And the thing is, because of who y'all are, right,
I say this all the time. Because of who y'all are,
there's gonna be somebody who sees themselves in you, that
they would never see themselves in a pastor or pastor's wife.
They'd be like, oh, Lex, I can connect with And
that's why I feel like it takes all of us
to lead each other to Christ. Because like my niece,
for example, she's young, she's twenty two, face tattooed. If

(01:18:29):
she saw oh Lex go to church, she might listen.
Or Drea, she listened to Gospels every morning. They will
connect with you way more than like Serena Jakes or c. C.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Winings.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
They're like, they don't see themselves in those people, but
they might see themselves in y'all. And I think that's
why it's important that we are authentic, so that people
can see a hope in each of us versus being like, well,
there's nobody like me who's trying to do it from
my point of view, or who's done the things I've done,
or has lived.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Life I lived.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
But lex bi and drew all our life at them.
I watched their podcast. They're more like me than I realized.
Everybody can't be Sereni Jacks or CC Wines and they
have their place. I love them. But my niece twenty
two she not checking for CCI, but you know what,
saying she'll check me poor would be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Like okay for c C. Was she checking for legs?

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
P nex me and dream?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I feel like but I feel like I could.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
See myself being the first lady in my future life
like later down the line, but more like a Shawnee.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
O News Love Shawne just got.

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
A vaccine to I said, that's gonna be me a
first lady, and we're still getting tatted up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yes, people want a pastor first lady who've been through
something done?

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
You ain't got no stories.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, save your whole lify what has God done for you?
If you've been saving your whole life? Why we were
wasting his sins?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I'm telling he got up on that cross.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
I'm gonna make it worth his while.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Do my stuff that cross a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
I'm gonna do my because he already got up on
that cross.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Yeah, you think I'm gonna waste all that bad?

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Sure nothing. Do a cent or two so you it's
always worth your while.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
I got a little messy question though, Yeah, so what
you think about the Christian content creator.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Ran for president.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
He lost because of excitement. Bigga got excited They were like,
you're done, buddy. You want to be president?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
That bad?

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Get him out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You want to say go home. We don't like that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
You need to be a little more maling colleague.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Yeah, yeah the job. Let's get messy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
You're done, buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
How do you feel about the Christian content creators they
be doing like the get ready with me in a
starting off in the underwear.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
On TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Calvin Klein, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Okay, So this is why I don't put Christian in
front of what I do, because now you you've already
kind of like pre classified yourself and that low key
like obviously everybody gets dressed, right if you're a woman
or man, you got underwear, T shirt, socks, draws, you know,
pants shirt. But if you are a Christian concreator, content creator,

(01:21:20):
I'm going to church starting off in your panties, It's like, well,
that don't go with what I associate that with. It's
the same thing I was just I was on podcast
with the pastor and he was like, I can't do nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
You can do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Well, that's because I'm a comedian. People already received me
with like keV is being funny, I'm allowed more stuff.
I can say the same thing a pastor says, and
he's not gonna get the same you know, leniency as
I get. And that's the same thing I think about
that girls like she's doing, she's not doing. Get ready
with me is the way a lot of people doing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
She's not supposed to have on draws, she's supposed to
have on Nickers have to wear.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Spy flipping stockings is for real.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
Yeah, wear jeans till I turned eighteen. Mom was like,
you know, every Sunday, Mom was like, you're not wearing
jeans to church? When I turned eighteen, I couldn't wait
to put them Levi's on and I put her face
and I said, she said, where are you going to church?

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
You had the jeans skirt pants, you know, like a
jeans girt.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
That's but I try to still prove it. We ain't
a church right now though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
But I think to answer your question, I feel like
it's unfortunate that people need to categorize you. They got
to put you in a box to make it make sense,
and those.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Two things don't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
You can't be in the panties and the bral to
people and then be like I'm a Christian content creator.
That's why I don't put that in front of my
comedy because I'm not just talking about church, I'm talking
about life. So I think sometimes Christian we can be
a little bit overbearing, over righteous, and we'd be focused

(01:23:07):
on the wrong stuff. And then you just and then
that person be like, I ain't even a Christian content
career now, just panties and jaws because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Do y'all think of Christian BBL?

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Is possible that girl says she got a Christian bb
isn't Christian BBS?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I don't know. Now. I watched her video, so you
know exactly what it meant.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
And I know she had to defend herself, but I
think she was maybe saying the reasoning that she got.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
It was a little different.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
The reason she got it was a Christian reason God.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Wanted her to get there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Well, I think maybe she was just like it was
for herself, for her confidence, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
But I know she's recently trying to like going through
a rebrand.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
I didn't even hear this Christian BBL.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
It was a girl who got a Christian BBL.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
I don't know. That's why I said, BBL is a BBL.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Christian because she's a hers was not that means you
can have Christian bracest you Christian glasses like this is
all cosmetic, correct what you want to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
I think that's what I think in her position, the
community made her feel like that all of a sudden,
she making her content and they're like, where did that
ass come from?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
And you at church where you we.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Didn't see that last week? Bitch, because that's me. I'm
in the back like this, I'm the hater. Oh where
did that ass come from? And I'm looking like that,
I'm swisspering where that ass came from?

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Bitch?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
I made a TikTok this hold on gotta bba and
now she gotta make a video until but maybe it
was forced.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
I don't know why she made it, but that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
She named the video Christian Baby.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
That's that's just good content creating. I think absolutely. I'm clear.
If I saw that, I'm I gotta's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Happened years ago and people are still really yeah, it
was years ago. She recently did an interview when they
were talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
That's that's that's the wild I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
I'm gonna think Christian bb and then when they click
on the video and be like watch four Minds every Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
See Christian Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
That's what the bblbe, or to bbls in Bible it is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
We're gonna keep with the same, you know category, but
now it's time to get into the b all the
bout about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Value. So that's how you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
I love this is legit podcast, y'all pull the cars up.
Let me take a look at my third question.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Trying to love? Were having too much mone with certain
people and we get off? I love it. We have
been completely off. It was great.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I'm having a great time. All my dreams are coming true.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
Some of the band topic we wanted to talk to
you about being holy but horny.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Yes, because clearly, clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Clear, make it clear.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Listen, Fozzy, let me let me let you ask y'all
questions growing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
Up in the church stunts your sexual growth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
No, I don't think so at all. I think, if anything,
that whole. Like I tried to be celibate until marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I really tried until I was about sixteen. I gave
up the ghosts. My wife actually was a virgin when
we got married. It was actually a human virgin when
we got married.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
So she's you are, so that is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
That's all she done. I'm the best there ever is
the best ever would for her though. Yeah, And I
remember when we were on our wedding day, there was
a church mother who was like, and you better not
have no sex with.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Her or not.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
She's had a long day. You've been waited this long.
You can wait another night.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
And I was like, oh dang, Like okay, like man,
we got back to that apartment, she was like, I
gotta stay with it, like, let me see with that thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Smell like right, So I think listen.

Speaker 8 (01:27:25):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
I beat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Sometimes I'd be in that and I'd be like, God,
you really did your big one when you created this,
because this is as close to you as I ever feel.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
I'd beat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I'm not in heaven, but I'm outside. I'm six hundred
feet away. If we're a GPS, I'm in the realm. So, yeah,
my wife is beautiful. I'm attracted to her. I'm hoping
for Coochie tonight. I'm like, okay, I get back by
ten thirty, about eleven, about thirty minutes out. If I
get back by twelve, I'm hoping well, taking shower, take

(01:27:57):
a shop, a long day.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
I'm hoping. I'm thinking about it right now. Her birthday Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I know that's out. It's her birthday. I gotta give
your birthday. But Saturday, I'm hoping for a Saturday. You
know what I'm saying. Para menopause, I don't know, period
coming period go, That's what I want to do. Right
So I think I'm a man first, Hey man, primal
big she walking by that buddy, I see it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
But you want me to marry fine? She is violently fine.
She's got great style. God smells amazing, Like what you
want me to know?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
What it is about her?

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
She don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
She's so confident no matter who cav going on to
interview with, what he talking about, what he's doing, She's
just like that, Yeah, she.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Know where I'm going when I come home. I'm coming
home to her. And I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
She was like, if I know you like you know
because I text you know women in this industry, She's like,
I trust you. Like we did this a podcast when
you to do the Love Hour, she was like, and
this wasn't ours, And somebody said that we kind of
adopted it. It was like, I'm not finna be checking
your phone, checking your email, checking your DMS. I'm gonna
give you enough rope to hang yourself, either to pull

(01:29:11):
yourself up or to hang yourself. And she's like, I
understand that you work in this industry. You're gonna be
having to text women and meat and stuff like that,
but I trust you. Don't give me a reason not
to trust you, right, And I've never given her a
reason not to trust her. And also it's never been
even before Muless, it's never been my personality to cheat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
I don't have time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Yeah, I'm not going to try to navigate three or
four different women I low key with. I've realized I'm
more creative and efficient and effective because I'm happily married
and faithful now because after a show, y'all know, after
a show, you you be exhausted. You give it your
all on that stage. You want to take a shower,
get something to eat, go to bed. After I do that,
I text my wife, called my wife for thirty minutes, and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Then I go to sleep. I'm not then like, now
let me go out Atlanta. Now let me call Houston, let.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Me call I'm in the bed so that I can
get up and perform the next night. So I honor her,
like I don't even I don't even go to the
hotel lobby.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I go to the room room service. If we can
afford a hotel. You know, I do all right, But
you know what I'm saying, But I also do that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
I got to walk down to the lobby and get
my Uber eats. Babe, that room service is expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
You'll be ordering room service.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Why would you mint.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Order?

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Because we be checking out in hers and be like
twelve hundred. Am I to be like, like, why you're
a two hundred ordered room service?

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
See people get out here and lie because I'm a lie.
I'm like, hey, I'm finishing stowing up. You go and
you get your room service and you go to be and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
But yeah, I think it's completely healthy, natural and you
should be doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
We are made to love, what about we made to
love one person?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
I believe that, But I do feel like, how do
you feel about like Preacher's kids? Because like, you know,
the I had Okay, I'm gonna tell a story.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
No no, no, it wasn't me. It was a It
was a preacher's kid when we went.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
To school, and they were very good kids, and the
daughter like, she just went missing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Nobody knew where she was. Like, we were all so worried,
we know what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Come to find out she had ran away with one
of the coaches at the school. Oh damn, they had disappeared,
and like she had finally reached out to one of
her friends and was like, hey, I'm safe, I'm cool,
I'm with such and such, and the friend was like,
she let everybody know, and it just spread like wildfire.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Oh my god, it was so it was such a scandal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
I'm so down in Orange. I couldn't wait. I was
going to I was going to.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
Market Basket, that's our HV market. Market Basket is like
Kroger h B.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
And I was like, did you hear what the word?
I had to spread the word, y'all? I had to
let did you hear about it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Talking to my teachers after social studies lesson, they classes
dismissed everybody going on the way and she's like, Pierre.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
You can go, but did you hear I had to
stay after. I just want to make sure you knew
that in case you was looking for but it was
a preacher's kids.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
My thing with preacher's kids is this, and p k's
are usually no different than the other kids in the church,
except they are placed on a pedestal. They are expected
to be different because of who their parents are, but
they're usually no worse than any other kid in the church.
They just are expected to do stuff, and then they're

(01:32:53):
vilified for regular stuff. So then they usually either become
super preacher's kids or they lean in. And I feel
like if we the Body of Christ, would treat them
like everybody else, then they would turn out like everybody else.
But we either pushed them further into you know, now
they become preachers, or they leave and have sex and
have a baby or whatever. But it's usually the expectations

(01:33:16):
that are too heavy and unfairly placed on them. To me,
I feel like Sarah Jake's is the great example of that,
like just vilified her, destroyed her. But I also think,
I don't want to say tragedy is a part of
God's plans.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
She had a kid, all not only she have a kid,
you is TD Jake's daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
She had the nation. I remember hearing about that and
I didn't even go to his church. He was like, well,
you know TD Jake's daughter, Like she was the PK
of p K. So it's like the whole Black church
was like you even though she didn't do nothing that
was that unusual, like teenage pregnancy was it's very normal

(01:33:58):
among black people and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
White kids that time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
I mean, yeah, people have like it's not that unusual.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
But I also believe that because that's her story, she
is uniquely placed where she is now because she's not
I've been saved all my life.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
I've never done nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
I feel like she's the perfect person to be in
the position sher and Terra are in because of how
she was treated by the church. I think it's like
she's perfect and how she approaches that position is only
possible because of how she lived her life and how
she was treated as a result.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
That was such a good example because you did say
like earlier, like people would like to see us talk
about that movie. Yes, but she's actually somebody I listened
to because I feel like she's a human.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
It doesn't give like go to church perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
She is somebody I can listen to and I really
enjoy her.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Serr.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Yes, she seems like a real person. Yeah, she's so
down and she is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
She's very cool in person, yes, and I think she
she can go in the breakfast club and talking and
it be like, Okay, you know what, maybe I was
wrong about Christianity and Christians. So I think that's why
I say we all need to be who we are
and go through what we go through. But Church folks,
I don't want to make it seem like we're all bad,
but we do what everybody else does. It just seems
to have more damage sometimes because you didn't expect it

(01:35:17):
from us, right, Okay, So.

Speaker 6 (01:35:19):
How do you feel about because I love that you
touched on the fact that your wife was a Vergin
when y'all got do you feel like it's really good
for women to only explore one partner in life because
it's like if you explore that one partner, then you
don't know what you missing out one. Yeah, you need
to explore everything with that one person and you get

(01:35:39):
to know yourself and then I also feel like the
love is just deeper too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
If this is your first I feel like I've been
blessed even though I didn't deserve it. I was blessed
that she only had one partner because there's no expectation, right, listen.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah, get and listen, And I only got to be
good to you. Yeah, right. And I think what I've found.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Because I had sex with other people before her, what
I didn't have was like freedom. I remember feeling like
super convicted, super guilty. What if she gets pregnant, what
if I get an STD Like that's I was like sixteen.
I was worried about all those things. What's she gonna
tell her friends and all that type of stuff. But
I feel like the covenant of marriage there's a certain
freedom and trust and relaxation that allows that you can

(01:36:29):
have with each other when you have like complete trust.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Even outside of the bedroom.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Like if you feel like I got your back as
a husband, then you're you'll you'll be more trusting in
the bedroom.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
So I feel like with one person, there's things you
can do and be in the bedroom that you might
not be if you're just like trying to be with
this person, that person, this person, that person, this person,
that person. So I feel like that's what I understand
and you know, appreciate about marriage. But at the same time,
I understand like the Bible days people was getting married

(01:37:01):
at twelve and thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
So nowadays we I don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
The expectation that if my son's not married at thirty
five that he would be a virgin. Like I would
have the hope, but I would be like, now, if
you you done smash the couple of times, you understand,
you understand, you know what I'm saying. You did what
you could, But I do understand the value of being
married or even if you're not married. Of like teaching
my boys about consenting sex. It's just like, if you're

(01:37:28):
having a one night stand, your chances of something negative
happening are much higher if that's your first interaction. If
you are in a committed relationship with her and y'all
been together for a few months and you've met her
parents and then y'all have sex, you're just less likely
that a whole bunch of other negative stuff is gonna happen.
So that's I try to parent with God and realism,

(01:37:48):
you know what I'm saying, versus like my mom was like,
don't you have sex ever?

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
And I remember it was nineteen. She was like, you're
still a virgin, ain't you? And I was like, no, Mom,
she was like I feeled you and then walked off
like that ain't that's not realistic. But there was some
man Dad.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
There were some moments in between. We probably should have
had a conversation, but y'all was just turning.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Y'all blind.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Nine, I was climbing out the window. I was riding
the bus across town and doing sex.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Getting on the Greyhound for some is nuts.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
In the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
This was three pm.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Sin oh, I got to be home by dark. I
can't just be out here. I told my mama was
going to the mall. I gotta be back by six.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
This is grazy.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
You getting married so young. Did you feel the pressure
to get married or were you just very convicted, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
No, this is my this is my partner, one of
my best things in life.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Completely convicted, not convicted, convinced. This is as good as
it gets for me. I put when I when I
convinced her. It took me like a whole semester and
a half to convince her to date me. I was
a junior in high school and I didn't think I
was gonna get married at the time. But in college,
I'm like, I'm surveying the land. I'm like, this is

(01:39:00):
as good it's gonna get for and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Worse than that.

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
I love who person so young. I feel like that's
one of the most amazing things that you can do.
That's why I asked you that question about like do
you feel like it's pressure to make that person happy?
But then at the same time, it's like if you
don't know anything else, it's not any pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
We grew up together, and there's benefits and there's drawbacks
to being that young. Like, imagine who you were at
sixteen and how who you are now. You had so
many different changes, even just living life. You've got jobs,
you got fired, you move, you have loved ones, you know,
born and die. All that affects who you are and

(01:39:44):
how you approach the world. So we've had to navigate
that in our lives, that in each other's lives, and
then that in the relationship, you know what I'm saying.
So it's been more work, but it's also been We
have like twenty year old inside jokes, twenty two year
old inside jokes.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
Our kids don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Remember us not being together. Our siblings they have no
memory of not being together. I feel like that is
a benefit and it was worth it for me. It
was just like I'm very happy with Melissa. Even at twenty,
I was like, or eighteen nineteen, I wanted to get
married the year prior. I was like, we get good
financial aid. If we like girl, we can have an apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
It was ready.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
I was ready, that's right, and Loki I was the
last of my friends to get married.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
But I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
That's a testament of how good of a person she
is because she ain't even put it on yet.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I ain't even put it on, and he was ready
to you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
And it wasn't just so we can have sex.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
I was like, I remember, the reason I decided I
wanted to propose is because we were like, you know,
we're halfway through college, and I'm like, you're starting to
think about what your life's gonna be after college, what
I'm gonna be do, what I'm gonna do for job.
And I was realizing I was gonna be in the
Air Force at the time before they kick me down
on all TC.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
And I was like, Okay, so if I get.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Stationed here, she's a military girl, she'll understand what it's like.
We can get say she get a job blah blah
blah blah blah. And I realized I was planning my
life with her without even asking her. She wanted to
be a part of my plant life. And that's when
I realized, oh, I want to marry her because I'm
not even factoring a life without her in it. I
should maybe ask her if she wants to go through

(01:41:16):
my whole life like that with me. So at that moment,
I was like, and I remember her ring was like
ninety dollars. Wow, I got he from the PX no
tax and it was not real obviously, you know what
I'm saying. The gold came off too through.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Ring.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Now now now it's real. No, I done got her?
I done got her?

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Right, I said, yeah, dig of the damn that's a
ring or nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
I want to know how do you navigate those challenges though,
because you spoke on you know obviously y'all getting married
really young, Yeah, going through grief, going through different changes
in life?

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
How do you navigate that? Is it just good communication?
Is it therapy?

Speaker 6 (01:41:59):
Because when you marry somebody at such a young age
and then now it's twenty years later, you're not the
same person anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
You're a whole different.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Person for us.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
It was all of the above, good communication, but it
was therapy for sure. Like we I remember thinking at first, like, man,
is that if we gotta go therapy, Like maybe we're
not gonna make it right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
But the pandemic was like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
Tough for everybody everybody, But like I'm on the road
traveling and stuff. We both working, like we had not
spent twenty four hours a day together every day ever.
Even when we were in college we spent a lot
of time together. But eventually I went to my dorm,
she went to her dorm. When we had our first job,
she went to work. All of a sudden, we're here together,
and I'm like, man, why do I want to be
in my office kind of by myself right now? And

(01:42:47):
She's like, you don't want to be with me? Men,
why does she want to be her? She started feeling
guilty about that, and I remember it started with like
we didn't we hadn't non therapy yet. She was like,
we don't really talk deep. That's the language ahead of
the time. We don't really have deep conversations. We don't
really talk like that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
So I'm like, girl, we talk every day, Like what
did you talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
But what she eventually found the words for is like,
you're not vulnerable with me. She was like, you don't
share your fears with me. And I had to realize
because I was doing couple therapy and individual therapy. I
had to tell her one day, like, I don't share
my fears with myself, so I can't be somebody for
you that I'm not even for me. So I had

(01:43:27):
to because to me, if I voice this fear, then
that made to real that's how I approached it. So
it took therapy to get to this stage. Like we've
been together for twenty five years, all in off beautiful.
We couldn't have made it without therapy. I had to
learn how to be vulnerable. I had to learn how
to communicate at her level. She's more emotionally intelligent than me,

(01:43:50):
as women often are, but I couldn't just be like
I'm not going to be emotionally intelligent at all, Like
I don't have to match her to be to communicate
with her.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
It's like last night I helped her take her braids down.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I have this thought, Yeah, I'm like, I'm never gonna
be as fast as she is taking her braids down.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
But that don't mean I can't help. And I think
that's really all it takes, is like I'm willing to try.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
And if it's stuff like that that women fall into
the effort, yes, Like and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
I'm terrified about cutting her actual hair, Like that's a
big job helping her take her braains down and cut them.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Because exactly, the bow hoo braids are harder than way
hard because it's a lot of hair.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
So she's like, cut the boho off, and I'm like,
but the bow hoo with the real hair at the top,
because it's twisted.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
Around in the real hair.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Girl, don't don't give me this. Let me stop on
the bottle on the phone. Lop, whoa you asking a
lot out of me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
I didn't grow up doing this. I'm only doing this
because you my wife, and you asked me. I remember
sometime this dude made a video he was so mad
at me. What kind of nigga may help his wife
take his break down?

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Nigga, what you mean I happily married man, happily like
you talking about That's why all agreed people your messages,
I'll do. I'm gonna hit you lext get them hey
and I'm right there because I'm always on my phone.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
Hit me if you just want people, I'll block everybody always, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Actually fuck you goodbye?

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
Block Because why are you saying anything to me like
you telling me that I'm wrong for taking my wife's
braids down? Toxic masculinity and it's a lot of that
existing online, right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
I don't understand why.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Men think twice about it, Like it's no different to
me than like taking the trash out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Can you move my car?

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
Can you pick up my son?

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Help me take my braids down because I gotta get
my hair done tomorrow and not even And here's what
I have to learn as a husband too. You can't
do everything like to braids. I'm trying to smash. Women
can smell that a mile away.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
I remember when I was young and married, I realized
if I cooked, I get the draws right. And all
I knew how to make was hamburgers at the time,
So then I can.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Burger.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
But me, so I came in this is like the
first year of mayor six months, I was running this play.
Every time she came in the house smeth burger. She
was like, no, no, I'm not going no, and I
was like, God, dang to come up with something else.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
I gotta actually just do stuff because I love you.
I can't always have Kucia on their mind.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
So like I help her take a breaks down because
she needed help for no other reason, took a shower,
went to bed and because that that's being a partner.
It ain't all nobody likes when somebody's just doing something.
Everything's transactional. You're helping me to get something, helping me
to do something, like just help me because I need help,
you know what I'm saying. So this is all things
that I've learned over the time. But you can't let

(01:46:49):
no nigga who don't live what you upset the person
who's sleeping in your bed. I'm not trying to make
your nigga I don't know, happy, Like I ain't taking
your brains down, So real, nigga one three four can
think I'm real.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
That's the same thing about it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
If I'm not for my gender anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:47:07):
I'm building a life with these one person, so it
only matters to me with these one person feels about me.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Absolutely, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Like I'm trying to be married, happily married, like even
my mom and grandma, Like I had to tell them,
like Melissa sleeps in my bed like when we were young.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
They're like, come visit us.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
I was like, we don't have the money. It's three
thousand dollars to fly all four of us. Like, well
you find it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Oh, but Listen is happy. She is, and she put
her body on me at night. That's what I'm going for.
I ain't put that moody on me as soft as
it is, put it on my thigh. I'm mna sleep
better at night.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
So like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
I'm confident in making. I want her to be happy
and I want to be happy. And it literally I
feel like social media has made me more like focus.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
People are awful.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
They're awful, awful to only exist here.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Yeah, and I'm putting this on the charge and I'm
going to bed, and I'm booty school, booty school scooch
and let me come up on and hold the tenny.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
I got to come underneath that arm.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
And I got to cup it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
I got to go around, I got to come around
on the underneath, on the underneath, and I got.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
To hold that. Now I know the church, Haten, see
you come if.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
You ain't coming to he's in bed. You're doing this
all you're doing?

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
What is all?

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
You ain't coming on the underneath that little school If
you're not schooling.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
The school is what is we doing? We got to
go to therapy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
If you ain't scooching, I ain't coming.

Speaker 5 (01:48:36):
Yeah that's some moo and come now him?

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
What is your sign?

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
I love?

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Oh my wall, that's why. That's that's why why he first.
My mom was April twenty second. Me and her mom
had the same birth. Wow, my sisters may seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
That's why we get along.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Grew up around to it. I love tauruses.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
We're not we'd niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
That's we're not real and I hate on y'all everything.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
Okay, yeah, that's big. I got to take over the world.
See me, see me. That's Leo.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
One of my home boys is a leoid and I
see the similarity between him and and let That should
be me is big Leo energy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
It's like and it's like a Meryl Street in her oscar.
That should be be bitch, you stole my oscar hole.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
And like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Just work harder, shut up. That's im, Like you can
have it too. That be me? I mean like that
be a wrong. Nothing gonna be out buck that little hole.
I could have did that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Lemonade. I did that big ain't number water, sugar and lemon.
You ain't no scientist.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Every time I see it, I'm like, I could have
did do everything. Okay, we gonna move on real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
The item of the week, Muse beauty. What we got
this week?

Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
Muse beauty. I have on its giving lip gloss.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
I have on a chestnut lip liner, and then I
also have on the lip plumper and yeah, that's my
look for this week.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Okay, period, And y'all know I have a new unit.
I know a ball.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Y'all love the ball we love. Go out to a
Rich Look hair, y'all. Make sure y'all go to Instagram.
Hit up rich Look hair and get you a little unit.
They come ready to wear like she'll literally send it
to you, PLoP it on.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Your head like I did this morning. Okay, so now
it's time to get.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
The bow.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Bow. I'm having a ball. I am keV. Do you
can tell the episode nine.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
Because I'll be ready to cut it off. I'm letting
you know I'm having a ball, perfect because I'm the
one that cuts people off. I'm like, okay, moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
And as a tourist, I'd be having a ball. We
can do this another yeah, yeah, so I am having
a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
So both of the week is like the music that
we've been jamming this week and what we've been listening to. Okay,
so my bop this week. K Camp came out with
an album. It's called Built Different, And y'all know I
am a K Camp saying, I don't think we give
k Camp his flowers enough for the box that he
used to give to us.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Cut that bit, cut that bit off, you know what
I'm saying, Like your whole will gets slate.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Your whole will get slate. You know what I'm saying.
He had, he had so many hits.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
So he has a new album called Build Different, and
he has a song on there called it was You
the Whole time? And one thing about K Camp but
he knows how to rap to the ladies. One thing
about K Camp he don't do too much though, Like
he knows how to wrap to the ladies, but relate
to the men, because you know, the men getting their
feelings and things like that. So it's like I don't
know how he does that, but he connects to both
audiences and make them come together and have a good time.

(01:52:20):
So y'all make sure y'all go download the album and
listen to it. K Camp Built Different, it was you
the whole time. Shout out to you, k Camp. We
love you over here at Poor Minds and we wait
you for you to come on the couch period period.

Speaker 6 (01:52:33):
Yeah, so my vibe, y'all know, I be getting into
my afrobeat's bag sometimes. So my bop is offered me
by the Veto featuring Victoria Money. I tek like if
this a summer and so like, it's such a feel
good So I love a feel good song where I
could put my top down on my card and let

(01:52:53):
the breathe. You got a drop top, I got a
range rover can't ring and she could pull off, take.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
The roof off because my wig might fly, so I'd
be like, open it up a little bit dry. I
don't even be in the car. I been in the
car sometimes my car broke down because my call old.
So sometimes I love my ship old than the motherucker.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
So I love that song. It's such a feel good song.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Were feeling breezy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
Blow Through the Through the Victoria Monette is so good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:31):
I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
She's so good. The versatility of her she's amazing. She's
beautiful too, like she can dance.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Her asshole old school artist.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Oh and you know she used a lot of instruments
in her music. That's what I really like about her.
There was a lot of instruments. That was a great
bop of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
You I've been listening to Little Sims. She is a
British She's in it UK.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
I love it so she beds.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
Did you watch Top Boy?

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
I watched the first few.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
She's one of She's an actress as well. That's how
I found out. My boys like yo. She raps as well.
She has a new album called Lotus. Thief is the
first track off of it, and it's amazing, Like she's
I like when rappers are telling the story of their life.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
I love themed album.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
That's why like Kendrick Lamar because he's like each album
is like a time capsule about what he's talking about.
And I've listened to other albums of hers. This one
she's like, it's a little darker. She's talking about some
family stuff, some real issues. So I want you to
tell me about your life in music. So that's her album,
her name Little Sims as I Am. I'm gonna check

(01:54:47):
that out.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
She's got a good little album. I've been listening to
it when I work out.

Speaker 5 (01:54:51):
Okay, it's work on music, because i'd be in a
gym it be workout.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
I mean, I listen to anything when I work out,
but I feel like some things are better fit, like
because gospel.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
I'll be like, man, I'll be thinking about what he's
done for me. I get distracted.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
I'd be in the gym listening to me. I was
he Lamar song. I will listen to anything get me
through them real, don't listen to this. I deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
That is the greatest gym song because you really end
up working for it, and you deserve everything you work for.

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
He's absolutely say a conditioning my week's d like, yeah,
I'll deserve it because I'll be conditioning my wi.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:55:40):
Into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour
your heart out, so you know if you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Have how many mores we got last one? I got
a piece so bad?

Speaker 6 (01:55:48):
Okay, I almost but we can do this.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
He's a professional.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
I just didn't know we had like four or five.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
I'm like, so we can delete that part, Craig, I.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
Take it out. I love that I'm not alone, though you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Love come up. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:56:13):
Like this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Listen, at this age.

Speaker 4 (01:56:15):
We got the pew is not.

Speaker 7 (01:56:20):
What is.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Don't let me too hard. You might have to call
the clean.

Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
It's all right, I've been over here tapping my foot.
I'm not alone. All right, you can leave some of that,
but I'm gonna reintroduce the stigma. Okay, So y'all know,

(01:56:47):
if y'all have any questions, any testimonials, y'all can send
them to ask Poor Minds at gmail dot com. That's
ask k p Oh you are in my n d
s at gmail dot com. This is our favorite segment.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
We love Ask.

Speaker 6 (01:57:00):
Po Let's get into question number one. Hi, ladies, thank
y'all in advance for helping me love the show. And
y'all I look at y'all and I see pieces of
who I want to be one day from each of you.

Speaker 5 (01:57:14):
I'll get to the point.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
Started dating this started dating this guy when I was eighteen.
I'm twenty eight now. I thought, based on his actions
and conversations that we had over the years, that we
were moving towards marriage. I recently caught this man secretly
communicating with another woman. This isn't the first time I
have forgiven in the past, because his reasoning made sense.

(01:57:37):
Each time I catch him doing this, he says something like,
we haven't been having enough sex. He doesn't feel close
to me. He seeks the closeness with others, but he
only messages them, never anything physical. I know that we
could be having sex more, and that sometimes when life
is hard, I can be not emotionally and sexually present

(01:57:58):
for him. He is saying that he is so sorry
and he wants to work this out and he doesn't
want to lose me. There's a voice in my head
that's like, if I forgive him, how do I know
we want to be here again. But there's another part
of me that's like, yeah, he handles it wrong. Maybe
I handled it wrong first, and that's what caused all
of these What would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
Thanks again? Whoo it's a that is ten years man,
she said eighteen, and now she's that is.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
A great question I do. It's just for me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Sex does make us feel close to women. It becomes
a chicken or egg scenario because a lot of times
women want to talk and you know, you feel emotionally close,
then you want to be sexually close, and if you're
not doing that, then it's like, well, it's hard to
give my body if you don't have the emotional connection.
And for men it's the inverse. If it's hard to
want to talk if you not you know, I don't

(01:58:54):
feel sexually connected to you. I don't feel close to you.
So what I would say is what has happened in
my marriage, one of us has to go in first
to draw the other one in. So if we're not
having sex, me and my wife, if I were him,
I at this stage because you know, messaging another girl

(01:59:14):
like that isn't an option for me in that way,
So I would probably lean more into the how can
I be more promotionally connected to you?

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
How can we be more close?

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
And hopefully you feel close and you're like, you know what,
let me open up myself that way versus going outside
is just going to create a greater chasm between us
and ultimately makes my you know, my goal of feeling
closer that much harder.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
And then you have the distrust in there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Now every time I'm in my phone, she's like, is
he messages somebody else, he's you know what I'm saying now,
she's looking over my shoulder. So in my marriage, Melissa
and I both taken turns leaning in to help pull
the other person back. So that's what I would say
to her. She might lean in first when she's not
all the way there, and then hopefully if they have
a good relationship, he leans in as well.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
So that's what I would say.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
And I also think like though two like ten years,
she's been with him and she wants to get married
and he hasn't taken that step. And instead of him
being like, you know what, let me commit to you
and take that next step, and instead of him leaning
into you after ten years, yeah, and he's deciding to
lean into someone else after ten years.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
This might not be for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:00:27):
I think people be so afraid of wasting invested time,
but sometimes it's kind of like, Okay, yeah, you might
have spent ten years with this person, but do you
want to spend.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Another ten years or another.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
Five years in the situation that you know is not
right for you when you could just move on and
cut your losses. Yeah, So I agree because with what
you were saying, like you're married though.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
But I think marriage.

Speaker 6 (02:00:53):
Changes things, like I think it's more of a willingness
to work things out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
Because we made these vows.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
To each other weeks. That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
Ten years of dating somebody is no commitment.

Speaker 4 (02:01:05):
Yeah, that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
That's a that's a long time. And you're absolutely right.
I think I'm approaching it from my yeah, like a
married man. So that's how because I'm you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Yeah, because you're being married for a while and.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
Married for for twenty one years, so for her, you
don't have that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
They was on your ass, toul keV.

Speaker 6 (02:01:24):
I was laughing because I was laughing so hard because
I remember you had posted about your anniversary the other
day and they was like run this bag. You need
another They was like, you need another ceremony to redo
you'll vows and.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
You was like, no, no, period. We ran the ticket up.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
I know it was you.

Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
It was amazing. It was like and that's why we
have pictures and videos anytime you feel it, if.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
You if anytime you want to see go back and
look at it. Somebody, No, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (02:01:59):
That picture is still my phone from the first time. No,
you good?

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
We good? I remember?

Speaker 4 (02:02:04):
I remember good?

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Last question, Hey, Lexandrea, just a little background. Me and
my boyfriend have been together for five years. We live
together and are really serious. We are four years apart.
I pay my own bills and he pays his. He
makes about two times what I make. He states how
tired he is of being the main spender of our relationship.

(02:02:28):
I don't live above my means, and I do help
out when I can. He likes to have nice things
and offers me things that I don't always need. I
reject them, but he still sometimes decides to get certain
things for me or try to talk me into letting
him buy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
Them for me a new purse, for example.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
I feel like I'm trying and I'm doing okay with
me being in college and working full time. What do
y'all think of all of this?

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
I was with you till college, saying I was like, so,
y'all been together in high school?

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
Stuff, man, the first thought I had. And I don't
know if this is the right thing or not, So
I'm curious with y'all. Think a lot of times we
take social media arguments into our actual relationship, like who's spending.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
Who's that? How much you make?

Speaker 2 (02:03:24):
How much you spend when you're in a relationship, Like
with me and Melissa, even before we were married, we
was just in relationship. There wasn't like we ain't go
fifty to fifty Applebee's ain't no real date, like none
of that stuff matter, Like we just going for ice cream.
That sounds very like Wonder Years, I'm well aware, but

(02:03:45):
it was also Nigga couldn't afford nothing but ice cream, right,
So it's like we going here because I love you,
and also we only got the ten and two ice
creams is eight, you know what I'm saying. So I
feel like we can't. You'll never win your relationship in
a social media argument. You just gotta live your relationship.

Speaker 4 (02:04:02):
What it is like.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
So I feel like if he's making more like your
big spinning, if beneath your means, and we got to
have a conversation about what's what?

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
What is?

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
What is a lot?

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
Right? Because if I'm spending beneath my means, it's to
me then and you think I'm going over, then maybe
we have a disconnect on what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
But we might not be aligned.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
But because it sounds like he wants her to be
more flashy, and yeah, she doesn't want to be and
that's what I'm saying, so, which is rare because a
lot of the time I think I see women online
complaining about me and not wanting to spend money yea
more so than me, and spending too much money and
then wanting to be more reserved.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
So in a situation like that, I feel like, maybe
they're just not aligned.

Speaker 6 (02:04:44):
They don't have the same values, they don't have the
same goals, they don't place emphasis on the same things
when it comes to material positions and stuff like that.
So I feel like, in a situation like that, maybe
she might need to get her somebody who is more
equally op with what she cares about, because clearly he
cares about those things. And one thing that I've learned,

(02:05:06):
especially now being in my thirties, when people.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
Like what they like, that's what they like.

Speaker 6 (02:05:12):
They don't like what they like, and you don't like
what you like, and either y'all are going to be
able to understand each other and be okay with each
other's differences and effect that, Oh, this person might be
a little more materially stick and I'm not, or you
might not be able to be okay, and you might
need to find somebody.

Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
Who more aligns with your more simplistic.

Speaker 3 (02:05:33):
And I think like she needs to be before and
I'm not going to say necessarily leave, but because I
don't know if she's had a conversation with him, yeah,
say hey, I don't care to have purses, I don't
care to have shoes.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
This is what I value.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
Maybe it's time, maybe it's physical touch. I think we
all need to be vocal in what you want in
a relationship. We all assume because of social media, every
girl wants a Chanelle bag. Every girl wants a trip
to Greece. And while that's great, that's not what every
girl wants. Some people truly don't like to travel.

Speaker 6 (02:06:04):
It is what I want, though, Just if anybody watches
this episode, I want.

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
I want to go to Grease, but I want all
of it and her situation. She is a girl who
doesn't care about that.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
Right, So I think I wanted to put that out
there as you should, Queen, because you deserve it, and
I been.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
Hitting me, you know, so wrisk don't you checking your wrists?

Speaker 4 (02:06:31):
Beget hey?

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
But I feel like you have to put it out
there you have to put it out there of what
you want. Like, if you want that, you have to
put it out there of what you want. So I
think with her, that's obviously not what she wants. So
tell him that if you show it with it, I
don't care how much the bag is. You can show
it to a girl with a ten thousand dollars nail
bag if she's not into Chanelle or things true, it's

(02:06:54):
not gonna matter.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
It is not gonna matter. That's telling me I just
might not be equally old period. All right, keV, let
us know where we can find you.

Speaker 4 (02:07:08):
Yeah, tour Kevin? What the book?

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
Yes, Successful Failure is coming out uh this fall September
twenty third. Play pre order that new album dropping September
twenty third. Trying to make the New York Times Bestsellers list.
Bob Brothers tour tickets are on sale now. Whenever you
watch this, it's on sale. Go to Kemo stage dot
com or just follow me if you don't do nothing else,
just subscribe to my YouTube page.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
I'm trying to get a million. I'm like six thousand away.
Oh I'm right there. I've been trying for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
And you said with what Facebook on YouTube? YouTube?

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
I got a million on Facebook and Instagram and TikTok,
but YouTube was the first platform. YouTube is hard, especially
once they went to like algorithm suggestions. When they show
you the stuff without having a subscribe, people think they're subscribing.

Speaker 4 (02:07:53):
They're really not.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
YouTube and Snapchat are the hardest.

Speaker 4 (02:07:56):
Snapchat's even worse.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Snapchat is so hard. But I said I'm a six
on both. Yeah, I got my personal YouTube.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
Now I saw and I love this for y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
Yeah, I love that y'all can spread your wings. And
still people assume, like we go with this guy, this
ain't going nowhere ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
But we also are going to do other things.

Speaker 6 (02:08:17):
But I feel like we have a lot of things
that we want to do collectively together poor Mind's other projects, yes,
which we're gonna talk to you about.

Speaker 4 (02:08:25):
Absolutely talk to me. But then also we work on
and that's how it should be.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
Like me and Tony are going on tour together, but
prior to that, I went on my tour, he wanted
his tour, and then we come together, and after that
we can go separate and come together. Like you ain't
got to own you to work with you, right, only me?
We can only do stuff together. He looks a movie.
That's my nigga. Congratulations, I do a commercial. If I
can get him on, I get him on if he

(02:08:52):
ain't tripping.

Speaker 4 (02:08:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
But we should celebrate each other even if it ain't
together that we're doing the thing.

Speaker 6 (02:08:57):
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Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
Bring.

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Let's do it, y'all go follow me on Snapchat, lex
P zero five, I'm on Facebook now and lex P
and we gotta go, Peece speaking of peace.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
Literally gotta go. I'm gonna let. I'm gonna be a man.
Let y'all go first, we got we gotta go back.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
First, you first.

Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
What is I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna take you,
take take.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
But yeah, y'all, make sure y'all follow cove on.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Stayt's say y'all next week.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
Bye y'all, girl, I know this is let me know.

Speaker 5 (02:09:49):
If I'm out of order for step you this ways,
see then why you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
For wow and not just gotta unless you know that.

Speaker 10 (02:10:02):
I'm really setting your style and I have to know
your name, leave you with my mother, hope.

Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
That you would call me someday. If you want, you
can give me your suit.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
I ain't mad at you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
I get still be eagle. I ain't trying to pressure you.
Just can't stop thinking about you.

Speaker 6 (02:10:30):
You ain't even really gotta be my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
I just wanted to know your name even made me.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
Sometimes we can hook up, hang out, just.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
Dropping drey up.

Speaker 4 (02:10:47):
I'm surprised that you call so where you walked O way?

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
I thought I wasn't gonna see you no more since
you didn't wanna give me your name.

Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
I thought it was name of this doctor. You was
digging me and wasn't digging me.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
But anyway, what you do until night, I'm probably be
my piece. If it's cool with you, maybe we'll swim.

Speaker 4 (02:11:15):
By and you can just chill within up, or you
can just cheer with me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
Long as you're comfortable.

Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
You feel sec when you with me. I'm not trying
to impressure you. Just case stop thinking about you.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
You ain't eating really gotta be my girlfriend. I just
want to know your name.

Speaker 4 (02:11:39):
Lady.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
Sometime we can't hook up, hang out, just sit here's
the part.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Come on last. Maybe the girl. Maybe we can still
hang out. Girl, whatever you want to J just let
you know it's up to you. I say, start thinking
about you. You ain't read here, gotta be my girlfriend.

(02:12:16):
I just want to know your name.

Speaker 4 (02:12:19):
Maybe he's sometime.

Speaker 8 (02:12:34):
You ain't gonna be my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (02:12:41):
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