You've Been Bamboozled FT. Devale Ellis

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think it's important for men and women to understand
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to sex. I get her right to where she edges.
Then I beat that thing up. And then when I'm
beating that thing up getting what I want, and I
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back and I say, baby, hold this one more time,

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and then I just what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Is your girl lex p And it's your girl's writing
a call?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mine,
where a drunk mind speaks for thought. You gotta guess,
we gotta guess, Saday. So, first of all, y'all have
been asking us to have this person on the blowing
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(01:18):
award winning podcast host, husband, father.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And come on, come onlaying the hell of it all right,
come on one and the only.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you happy to have you on the show that
I'm not gonna lie to you. I have had some
heavy hitters on this couch, right. Yes, that was probably
the longest intro I've had to do. You have done
a lot. I want to start from the beginning. So

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you know the girls, we love. We love a good athlete.
Now we're gonna start back in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Then, Okay, okay, okay, let's do that. Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
So talk about like your your football career and like
how that got started and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So the funny thing is first and foremost, I love y'all.
Thank you, like I'm excited. If you can't tell the bee,
I've been smiling since I walked in here, curious. I
was introduced to y'all last year when you'll introduced Crystal.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I love Crystal so ever since then, I just yes,
we love you for y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Come on, man, I knew because I knew y'all be
on the fashion. You know what I'm saying, So let
me make sure you show up a little bit. We're
trying to do a little one too. Period. But no
football to me was a means to an end. People
don't understand this. As a young black man growing up
in Brooklyn, I always wanted to be in the arts.
The first movie I ever saw in my life was

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Boys in the Hood. It was nineteen eighty nine. My
father bootlegged it. My bad group, I'm telling your business
legged it, but that he showed it in the living room.
He had a group, a men's group called the Junior Layman,
and there was a bunch of young black men watching
Boys in the Hood. I was five. I walked in
my pops, like, you want to watch? She sat me
right here and I watched all of these young men

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be captivated of what they saw on TV. And I said,
I want to do that. But this is Brooklyn in
the nineties. How many how many young black men you know,
walking around saying the artists? Homophobia was in the nineties,
So it was like, yeah, what am I going to
do to show people I'm tough?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You know what I'm so?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I played sports. I played sports. I danced. I did
a brook up. I don't know if you know, but
the brook up is a Caribbean dance. You said you've
seen the shoulder, so the brook up is a dance, right, yeah,
you see your laughing because you ain't know what the

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broke up was. I'm not this. I'm this. I've been
doing this. I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I just you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I used to dance. I used to be out in
the streets trying to entertain people. But I knew I
had to make money, so I was like, I'm gonna
make money. And I was like sports.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So wait, I know your wife is Caribbean. Are you
Caribbean too?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, I'm Caribbean by relation, not my birth. Come on,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
So you know what. My wife's Jamaican and Jamaican vincension.
So I adopted that culture. But I've always been big
in Caribbean culture. Coming from Boklands. Yeah, I just knew
that they had to find my way out of New York.
I never wanted to spend my whole life in Brooklyn.

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Sports came easy to me because I was fast, I
was athletics, so I said, I'm going to play sports.
I was going to play basketball. I was like, I'm
gonna be about six five, that's what. And then when
you go to the doctor, right, you know, the doctor
told you I'm looking at your phone, your growth places
you're about six or five. Buddy, I stopped growing and
I said, you know what I think football is it? Yeah,

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I'm not told enough to play basketball. Went and got
my degree and said I'm gonna focus on TV afterwards.
It was that simple. What was a means to an end.
I enjoyed it. The NFL was great to me. I
made a lot of money that I wouldn't have been
able to make. But it was just the plan to
get me the TV film because.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
A lot of people don't have that, and I hate
to see the story of like athletes when they leave
the NFL and they just don't know what to do.
They I mean, they try to make the transition as
you've made. A lot of them try to go to
like TV doing sports casting, but as you know, it's
hard to talk on camera.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's not it's not easy. And the funny thing is,
I thought I was gonna go into broadcasting first too.
I got my degree in broadcast journalism. Yeah, but that's
why I knew that y'all was good because we went
to school for this week season.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
But that's why y'all good at what Yeah, Barbara Walker's
shaking for a long time.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay. The funny thing is, no one to see. No
one wanted to see y'all coming like this, just the
way y'all dressed, looking, the way y'all look y'all not
supposed to be able to do what y'all do.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So the fact that y'all are doing is please give
yourself a round of a plank you and shout out
that you had degrees. Because people think that having degrees
is pointless. I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think it depends on what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, yeah, I think it depends on what you want
to do. But the things that I love about people
who have degrees, I think it just says that, like,
you finished what you started.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You saw something through completely.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And as a businessman, that's important. All the people I
go into business with are going to business people who
I've seen do things through completely, right, because that means
you had to do something you didn't want to do
to see it all the way through it. That's life.
So you know, I started off broadcasting. I worked for
MSG Varsity doing games and yes, why did you because

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they wanted me to say what they wanted me to say.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Ooh, and that's what I was going to say. Because radio.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
We hated it because they said, you can't say it
was certain.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
We just couldn't be our authentic selves the way that
we can on these couch and I mean it's cool,
you know what I mean, shout out to the people
that do radio, Kudos to them. I just don't think
it was it was for us.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah. I actually started off doing hard news. I used
to have an internship at my college at TSU, so
I would wake up at five o'clock in the morning,
go to the radio station. I'm reporting on all this
stuff like kids getting kidnapped, house and higher. I'm like,
this is depressing, ain't it. Oh my god? It was
so hard, and I was like, I don't want to

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do this. And then I kind of got into like
doing like entertainment news and I'm like, you know what,
I just want to talk shit and.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
You have for those I don't like. I don't like
the breaks.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, Like how you have to do you know how
you have to do so many posies and breaks when
you do radio.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Like on this show, you know, we just talk freely.
It's no breaks, it's it's not edited, it's not altered.
I think that you have to do that. Well, we
know you have to do that. It comes to like
radio and broadcasting. Podcasting is the evolution of medium.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It really is, you know, and it's going to become,
like I think it's going to become the main set
of where people consume all of their information.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'm not gonna lie to you. I I think it
is now though.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I think a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Of times when you are hearing people have authentic conversations
and you're not hearing somebody like, oh, I have to
ask this question, like we have talking points, but we're
gonna get off topic, and you go like, oh, this
is how this person feels about X Y Z. Oh
I really like them. Oh you know what, I didn't
really like that they were doing, But now that I
know them, I want to support everything that they need absolutely,

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So it could be good for you or bad. So
that's what I want to talk about too.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You getting into podcasting, yes, yes, How did they come about?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
My beautiful wife Kadin, very similar to you guys, went
to school for broadcast journalism. She wanted to do hard news.
She did hoghtra news and views. She worked at the
radio station and she hated it.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So when when I retired from the NFL at this
point she was having our first child, I felt bad
as a man that I was just like man like.
She has her own dreams. She always has to stop
doing her dreams we continue to have children. So I
was like, well, I can't even take credit for this.
Our manager at the time, Donor Donor Opinion shout out

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to do Nora because her vision for what she saw
for us was huge and we wouldn't be who we
were if it wasn't for Yeah, she got an opportunity
from Stitcher, and Stitch was like, hey, the volen Kadeen
do all these videos about Battle of the Sexist and
it's money. Have they ever thought about the podcast? And
Donor came to us and explained what the podcast was.

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I had never heard of a podcast, and I was like,
wait a minute, babe. We could do the podcast from home,
we could do the podcast from anywhere, but you'll get
an opportunity to continue to work and do what you
do in your field without having to pause every time
you get pregnant. So I was like, let's focus on
the podcast and build that out so that we can
ultimately get to your goal of being a daytime TV

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show host. And she was like, bet, let's do it,
and we started it and now we're fifteen seasons later
and amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
That is because being in this field too. You know
how many times we've seen people start it because they
used to be like, oh, I can do this if
they do, and then they started and then they quit.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Of course that it's not as easy as it was. Well,
nothing is easy. That's worth having. And the problem with
most people, especially in this generation, is they want instant gratification.
I was doing videos for years before any one of
my videos got traction to go viral, and then once
it went viral, that's when people say, oh my gosh,
the value doing this? I said, well, where were y'all
years ago when I had twenty six people viewing my

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videos and I was still making videos. I'm editing videos
and putting pictures up and you see three likes that
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, listeners, girl, what are you screaming for?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Ain't nobody watching it?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Watching?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
But we kept going on. You know who gave me
the biggest tip? Pause about just saying I got a
pause that you can say somebody gave me a big
tipping and I don't puuse there.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You felt how he gave me a big tip tool?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
You felt that moved? Did you pull no more?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Period?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Look?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, tip, I can't even tell this story now, especially
in this climate. But I worked as Amari Hardwick's a
stunt double. I see three years you see it, right,
I was. I had to suit on everything, walking through truth.
You know what I'm saying. Okay. My first speaking role
in television was when I played Ghosts and I had

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to curse Timmy out. Y'all might remember this, The fuck
you looking at? You see that? I said that to
tim me in jail. But it was a ghost.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
It was me, it was you, it was But why
did he need a double for that? Just out of curiosity?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Like back walking through truth? Well so this is what
So this is what happened. All right, this You're not
gonna shame me from my role.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm playing with y'all to ask trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
The role didn't start out as a double. The role
started with season two, I believe episode nine. Tommy had
went to jail and he's in jail and he sees
a guy who looks like ghosts, and then he goes
to him. He's like a ghost, a ghost, And then
I turn around and I say, the fuck you looking
at And then he realized, wait a minute, that's it,
that's not ghost I got to watch that episode. Right

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after that episode is when the producers just like, yo,
you look and your body type is a lot like Omari, right,
And he was like, how are you interested in being
his stunt double? So my thing was just like you
nigga be walking around and what the fuck does he
need a stunt double for? But I do it okay,
because I wanted to learn. I want to see what
it's like a leading man in the drama, the number

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one drama on all the television. So I'm doing that.
And years before that, I had did fifty cents funeral video.
I played Remo. So one thing about fifty cent, y'all
gotta notice fifty cent remembers everyone who's been around really
he does, because I mean he's from Queens. I'm from Brooklyn.
I understand this, this type of environment. He from Queens,

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He's had beef his whole life. When people around you,
you make sure you can recognize who's ane you. So
I was around him all day shooting his video. Two
years later, I go to do power and he looks
at me like yo, I said Remo, and he's just like, Yo,
what's good? Ge? Like people think fifty cent is like
this hard guy who always he is, but he's also
a businessman and a stud businessman. So me being a

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Brooklyn guy, it's the end of the night. It's like
one thirty. Of course, I'm just the stunt double. Stunt
doubles don't really do shit, you know. So fifty cents
walking through the lobby. I see him. He's with a
little PA, and I'm like, this is my chance. I'm
gonna go holler at fifty. So i jump up. Everybody's
quiet saying I'm like, fifty said, come through. I get up.

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He getting on the elevator. I go to get on
the elevator. The PA puts his hand on my chest.
I'm like, oh no, you're not use me me like
you know me walked right through that right and then
fifty was smirking, and I was like, yo, fake what up?
So then when he started talking to to P was like, okay,
I guess this is cool. So I said, yo, fifth man,

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you was in there real good. I was real comfortable.
I was real cocause I'm like, this is my moment.
This is a moment, you know what I'm saying. Walked
in that bitch. I was like, Fifth, what up. He
was like, what's up, my g and I was just like, yo,
I like you, Yo, you're bully like me. I'm a bully.
To see how I got on the elevator. So he
started laughing and I was like, Yo, this is before

(14:20):
BMMF was out. I said, y'all want to be on BMF.
He was just like, Yo, we're gonna work. We're gonna work.
Never got a chance, you know how that go. But
what he did do, He's like, Yo, what else you
got going on? He said, yo, come with me. I
went with him to his dressing room. He looked at
my social media because I told him the stuff I
was working on. He saw my videos of my family
before they ever went viral, and fifty cents said, Yo,

(14:42):
this shit is hilarious. He said, Yo, you gotta keep
doing this. He was like, let me tell you something.
He was like, don't worry about the views. What you
have here is a catalog of content, which means all
you need is one video to go viral, and when
people see that video, they're going to go back and
see what other videos. And when they see that you
do this, they'll follow you in their share because it's

(15:03):
not a one hit wonder right. I was like, oh,
he right, So that was June. That was June, I
believe two thousand and sixteen, Okay, September. June. September twenty sixteen,
Tyrol was born. I do a video goes viral. I
had about one thousand videos, all of those videos now

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getting hundreds of thousands of views from that one video.
First thing I thought was fifty was right. Yeah, he
was right. And the thing is, I've never not on
be in my but the information he gave me was
more valuable than a role because he taught me how
to build my own thing. So from this day, from
this day forth, I always say, y'all always get fifties.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, shout out to fifty cent.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I feel like that resonates with us too, though, because
it was kind of like the same thing when we
went on eighty five South for the first time, Like
that video got millions of views.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It hit a million in a week, It.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hit a million in a week, and it just it
trickled down and it makes people come back to all
of our old videos and watch all of our old videos.
And I remember on social media, we both gained like
eighty thousand followers on our personal pages and the poor
page like overnight it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
That shows you the value of consistency. Yeah, which most
people don't have. They want instant gratification. If they don't
get it, they quick, But consistency means you do stuff
when nobody's watching, then when people pay attention. You got
a catalog that happened to y'all, that happened to me.
And now look at y'all. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
And look at you.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm grinding baby.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
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Speaker 1 (16:31):
Y'all?

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But I want to talk about since we were talking

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about podcasting, cause we were speaking a little bit earlier
and you were about to touch on cause we talk
about the freedom that we have with podcasting OFTO comes
with a little negativity because you can give your opinion,
but a lot of times people are not gonna agree
with it and they're gonna be dragging your age.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
One thing, me and Dre are not strangers to drags,
Like we are always getting drug about something understandable. So
not understandable, but you're supposed to say, damn not my girl, No.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, no, no, Well, I've been dragged. I've been dragged a
couple of times.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Talk about the time that you got dragged and you
were just like, oh my god, why did I say this?
Or you regretted it or something.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, the first thing is I never regretted saying what
I was saying. I got dragged because people have a
difference of opinion.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
The first thing I will say that I've learned as
an athlete is that people are not like you are
not entitled to having everyone's admiration or agreement. You say something,
people have the right to disagree with you. If they do,
you can't take that as hate, you can't take that
as negativity. It just is what it is. Because I

(18:54):
think about it's a lot of people that I don't
agree with So I'm like, you know what, when I
put something out, I put it out there is art,
and I say, regardless of what people say, this is
my truth. The problem with most people is is they
don't speak their truth. What they do is they say
something thinking and everyone's going to agree even if it
ain't their truth. Like and then when people don't agree,
they get mad. When you speak your truth, you can't

(19:17):
get mad if people don't agree. That's my truth. Whether
you agree with it or not, it's still my truth.
And I'm unapologetic about it.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
So you be standing on bing this when you say
stuff and they don't like it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yes, I still don't listen the podcast. I got dragged
for the most. They tried to cancel Your Boy. We
were talking about monogamy and I was speaking about how
I felt as a man. That is unfair for a
woman to say, hey, I want you to be monogamous
with me, but only monogamous with me when I want
you to be monogamous with me if you want to

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have sex and I'm not ready then And I was like,
that's kind of unfair if it's supposed to be a
partnership when I want to have sex, or when you
want to have sex, at least have a discussion about it.
It can't just always be when you want it. And
some women dragged me was just like, it's my body,
you can't tell me when. And I say, you know what,
if that's how you feel, If what I said made
you feel that way, then that's how it made you feel.

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I'm not gonna argue you down. Your perspective dictates the
fact that that made you trigger it in a way.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I think a lot of times people get so wrapped
up in people's opinions because they created this version of
you in their head. So if they watch sisters or
they watch the team and they like, oh my god,
this man and they see you with your wife, so
they're like, oh, I want a man like that. He's
a good father, he's then so they create this image
of you in their head, but they don't know you

(20:38):
absolutely day. So when you say something that doesn't fit
their narrative that they created, and they'd be ready to
be up in arms and that because that happens a lot.
I feel like a lot of times people tend to
feel like, oh, that's so funny, she's so sweet, she's
so nice, but I'm really like an introvert. I really
don't like people as much. I really just kind of,
you know, be doing my own things. So sometimes when

(20:59):
I say things that people like, they'd be great to
bring out the pitch for it, But I'm like, why
are you so upset at? I think the biggest thing
that shows people's ignorance is when you can't understand that
not everybody thinks the same. I mean, an opinion is
an opinion, Like, just because I say something and that's
how I feel, it doesn't necessarily mean it's factual.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Right, don't agree with me.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's okay for you not to agree with me, but
it shouldn't have you up in arms because it's my opinion.
You should be able to take a difference of opinion
and go about your day.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I agree with you. I agree with you one thousand percent.
But what we all have to understand is humans, is
that social media is in a place where everyone has
a prerequisite of being healed before they participate. R Yeah,
So when you hear people's responses to your opinions, typically
it's because they're going through something where your opinion triggers
something that they're going through and if it made them

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feel a way and they want to spit fire at you,
they have the right to do.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Sometimes it just be triggering that they a fucking hater.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yes, yeah, people just sometimes people be mean sometimes sitting
there taking it out on you.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But let me ask you a question that says more
about them than you, Right, So why do you let
that affect you?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You shouldn't because I'm sensitive though everything gets to me.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I'll be like, say my hair, my mail flex is
a little more sensitive than I am. Sometimes I'm not
gonna lie. For the most part, I let a lot
of ship roll off my back. But sometimes people do
say something. Every once in a while, I'm just like, oh,
I gotta respond. I want to get to that point

(22:34):
where I don't say Beyonce, we want to be beyond.
I want to be Beyonce to the bullshit. I feel
like I'm Rihanna.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with being Rihanna
or Beyonce. It just whatever allows you to have peace
in your day. You know what I'm saying. If peace
means today I'm about to clap back on this motherfucker,
then today is a clap back day. You know what
I'm saying if peace for me means that I'm going
to ignore it and I want to be Beyonce for
the day, then that's gonna be my piece for today.

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And the truth of the matter is, can't nobody tell
you how you're supposed to respond to what people make
you feel? That's that's That's one thing I've learned about
each social media people in general. If I said something
that made someone respond in a certain way, whether they
was hate or whether it was this something like that
person going through it, Oh well, if I felt like
clapping back on somebody that day, I was going through it,
Oh well.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So you'll be clapping back sometimes, I don't. Okay, did
you used to it?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I used to, but I never clapped back in a
way where I wanted to make someone feel small. I
always tried to clap back in a way where I
can educate someone on a different perspective. But even on that,
I learned that some people don't want a different perspective.
They want to exist in their own perspective. So I've
learned to let people live. If you understand, if you
understand history, and you understand the economy and the way
the world works, you start to have empathy for people. Right,

(23:50):
let's just listen to me.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'd be like you big big mother, I'll be.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
No, it's about It's so funny because we share obviously,
we share the log ins for like all of our pages.
I always be seeing the notifications when she go off
on people, and.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I be like, bro, every day every time we tell
you to say that, who talking?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Kay tail bitch? We said, big bag. The thing is,
I get it through them because I feel sometimes I
do feel like, how did you judge me and say
things to me and not look at your life first?
But I want you to consider this. Tell this, ninety
nine percent of the world's wealth is controlled by one

(24:40):
percent of the population. Yeah, which means ninety five percent
of the population is not comfortable with where they are
in their place in life, which means they're working in
a job they don't like, they have a husband or
a wife they don't like. They gotta but there's something
going on every single day, and the only thing they
have control over it's that social media. I can put

(25:02):
a comment on here and I can fuck with Lex today,
and you know what I'm gonna do today. I'm gonna
talk to Lex today because if she responds to me,
that's the only control I have. And when you give
people that control, now they winning. Yeah, and now you've
lost it because now all people going to talk about
is how you responded to the person that nobody knows
they know lex though, you know what I'm saying, I'll.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Be ready to crash out. I love to get on
Live and crash out.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
But you know what's crazy the few that I have
crashed out people have responded like I had posted a
screenshot on Twitter like two weeks ago because this guy
I had tweeted something and this guy had like a
crazy ass or bottle to me. I can't even remember
what he said. But then after I said something to him,
he posted, Look I reposted it, and I like kind

(25:51):
of went off on him, and then he was like, oh,
thank you for responding. I love you.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's like what this is he's talking about when I say,
people are fucking weird. All of that for him to
say I love you when I responded.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Because he wanted he wanted your attention. Yeah, and you
got into that a lot of people know, like they
know that I can't get this person's attention unless I
say something to trigger them, and then the minute they
get your attention, then all the love comes out. That's
why I don't respond with people with vitriol all the time,
because a lot of these people really don't have the
tools to articulate eloquently how they feel. I told you

(26:30):
I went to school graduat. You know what I'm saying,
I want to school. You know you're talking.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
About the hell is that? You know the park I
never popped the butriol. You know the hell is that
I means that it's just a baby.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
All change your life, that we all change your life.
Now change your life.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
So I definitely before we get we ain't even got
into the first topic yet. But before we get into
the first topic, I defin really want to talk about
your beautiful wife and your family.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
So how did y'all meet?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I think I did read somewhere or maybe y'all seen
it on y'all social media. Y'all met in college?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right? No? No, we went to the same elementary school,
Ohame elementary school. She she tells the story that she
recognized me when I was in first grade. She was
in second grade. I didn't you know not girls? You
know what I'm saying, sometimes Zach got to do that,
you know what I'm saying, even with Zach six, but

(27:30):
a girl still had coolies during that time. I wasn't
playing attention. But long story short, because this is a
long story. We have a brother the same age, and
we have a sister the same age, so we both
are family of three. You have brothers who are the
same age, sister the same age. And I used to
go back when we were in middle school to pick
up my brother and sister, and she used to see me.
We ended up going to rival high schools. She was
a cheerleader, I was a football player. And then my

(27:53):
senior year, I was being awarded by the elementary school
that we both went to, and that was the time
that she could finally see me and say, hey, dev
I'm interested and choose let me tell let me tell
you something, let me tell you something about my wife. Okay,
and I'll say this. All of the stuff that they
say you're not supposed to do on social media to
get a man, she did every single one. Really, she

(28:13):
walked up to me.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But it worked out in her.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Fast, and that's and that's what I'm saying. She did
every single she she walked up to me as me
and my but she said Brian and devale Ellis and
I was just like, I was looking at her and
I was like, damn, she's fine, but I got to
be cool. I was like, what's up? The whole night
we were sitting there chopping it up, and then at
the end of the night, I was trying to do
what my pops told me to do. My uncle they like, yo,

(28:37):
you don't be too thirsty, you know what I'm saying,
let her let her walk away a little bit. Then,
like they told me, as she's about to walk away,
that's when you grab her arm and you just be like,
excuse me, okay, you know what I'm saying. That was
you know what I was like, I was gonna.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
You was meant to TV because he was already living
your real.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Life, Like you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I had all this in my mind, but when.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
You me though I live my life every day, I
think I'm in a movie.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
My whole life's a rom com. You can't tell me
I'm not in a right now. It's called ditch, not hitch.
Ditch because I be ditching these holes and it's all
my wife that's why. But before I could, you know,
grab her arm. She grabbed my my thing and say, Yo,
since you ain't gonna ask me for my number, I'm
gonna just give it to you. I like her, which

(29:24):
they say online. Women are not supposed to do that.
You're supposed to be demure. He's supposed to be mindful.
My wife was not about that. She's like, tak my
number down, took the number down. I called her the
whole summer. She did not answer. She's a pageant she's
a pageant girl. She was on the road. She trying
to play me. So I'm like, man, fuck, this is
chasing after you. Man, I'm I got an eighty nine maximum,

(29:48):
I got black rims on that joint with two sup
with us.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'm I'm vibing them.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know what I'm saying. I had I had you twelves.
Well I had to twelves. But thank you, bro, you're
gonna miss your blessing. And I was like all for
And then she called me and I was like, I
was like, what the fuck? Hello, Hello, Hello, and hen
she was just like hey, handsome, and I immediately went
back to the way my dad told me to be.
I was just like, what's up? Stopped laughing. You see

(30:17):
you laughing. This is the problem. You're not trying to listen.
So I was like, what's up? And then when I
said what's up, he started vibing. She came and visit
me the next day and it was all on his
The thing that impressed me though she asked me on
first date. We in my dorm room. I was ready

(30:38):
to smash, like, I'm eighteen. I ain't gonna lie I'm eighteen,
said my wife. You know what I'm saying, long hand, slim,
you got a little fatty on him. I was like,
give me some of that.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'm a d one athlete. I'm not thinking about no
wives or nothing. So she's eating a hero and I'm like,
She's like, so she's eating here. She's like, so, what's
your plans in life? I was like, well, I want
to be an actor. I want to do that. She
was like what Martin was on TV? I was like,
I want to have my own sitcom. She didn't miss

(31:09):
a beat. She said, Okay, so how we gonna do that?
Mm hmm? Man. When I tell you, I was like,
she wanted to know.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
My dreams because at ninth because she so if you
were eighteen, she was like nineteen.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
She was about to turn.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
A nineteen year old woman asking something like that on
the first day, because I would have been like.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
To be you see what I'm saying, That's what I
was listening. Come on, you're right, you're right, and the
internet be telling you don't be. Don't be going out
there and trying to be wifely off the first date,
because she was wife she.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
First Also it was to the right man though, So
a lot of times though it's a lot of good
women that meet up and they're they're doing the right things,
but it's with the wrong man. So I think that
is why a lot of times you hear women giving
the advice of don't do this, don't do that, because
they did that it saw no results.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I agree, So I will say this. I will say
this though, lex I have a question. Now, I'm not
gonna have a question. So many women talk about these
bad men. Why do women choose bad men?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Red flagging and they be smacking y'all in the forehead
like black eye, red flag and.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I'm not really like that though, No I be leaving
the red flags, don't. I don't really play that ship
like I've always had a no nonsense policy, but sometimes
we really want to get into it. I feel like
that's why I'm still like not married and stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Because I'll show you I understand what you're saying. Yeah,
my boys, I got boys who are single, and they
always on our bases. Ain't this. I'll be like, nigga,
you be choosing the wrong woman every time, Like we
will see the woman, the woman that he and I
could tell in two minutes knock on work, not the one.
But here we are two months saying, and you eat it,
but D, but D. I'm like, bro, you keep choosing

(33:08):
the same woman over and over and over again. Then
your response to that is all these bitches, No.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
You keep choosing this one, the same one.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
So that's why I'm asking you, because I want to
know a woman's perspective.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So I'll say this. In my twenties, I was having
a ball. I wasn't looking for nothing serious. I was
having a good time. So I'll say as in my
thirties and my mid thirties, I'm intentionally dating. You know,
I'm in a relationship. I've been in a relationship for
a year, so I can talk about the things that
I was dealing with beforehand, and I'll just use the
last guy I dated before him for example. I'm not

(33:40):
gonna lie. A lot of times, I knew the type
of men I was dating, and I knew what I
was in the situation for, whether it was to have fun,
he was spending money X y Z. But once I
started dating intentionally and I'm like showing like who I
really and what I really wanted to do in my
goals the last time. I will say, a lot of

(34:01):
men they put up a good front. Okay, they're auditioning.
It's like they look at it like a job application.
So if I'm applying for a job, when I show up,
they'd be like, what is the worst thing about you
when it comes to work? Oh, I'm just always on time.
In the fact, I'm just so punctual and sometimes I
work whenever I'm supposed to be clocked out. That's how

(34:23):
men are. So you'll ask a man, You're asking all
the right questions, you're doing the right things, and they're like,
oh my gosh, this woman is amazing. I'm not really
looking for nothing serious though, but I don't want her
to leave me alone because I'm not ready to be
the man for her. But I don't want her to
leave me alone because she's doing all these wifey things.
So a lot of women have experienced that. Now, one

(34:44):
thing about me, I don't date. I'm not a bitter dater.
So just because this man does this to me, Okay,
we broke up, i'ma still move on and I'm gonna
still be happy and try it. I'm not gonna be
tainted about love. So I feel like now I'm in
a relationship where I am with somebody who appreciates the
thing that I do. And it's like, but I will say,
I wasn't a situation where I felt bamboozled.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
So can I just give you guys some insights? Sure,
based on what you said, you said in your twenties
you was having fun. Would you say that you bamboozled
a bunch of men? Oh yeah, okay, fair, So we're
in agreement, right. You know why men in their twenties
can't bamboozle women because we don't got no fucking money, period.

(35:28):
So you know what happens. We spent all of our
twenties getting bamboozled. And I'm not pointing you out, Lex,
but a beautiful woman like you who we may have
thought like that could be my wife, and you bamboozled
us in our twenties. Now a nigga got money. Now
it's time to do the bamboozling. And what happens is
is when a woman is now when her position late twenties,

(35:49):
early thirties, she's like, I'm ready to be someone's wife. Well,
now you've been, you finna get bamboozo And I'm just
being honest. That's that's that, And I'm not saying it's okay,
But what I'm saying is is that you had your
time in bamboozoo. A man can't bambooso until he got
the resources to do some bamboozling. Show me a black
man in the early twenties who don't come from a

(36:10):
prominent family who got resources to bambootho. So you know,
so then finally when they make some money, I'm finally
a VP at my job. I'm thirty. Wait a minute,
I can do all the things that I watched that
woman do with that other guy that I liked, So
now I'm gonna do that to these women and I
feel like women get upset when a man does it,
but then they'll openly say, like you just said, in

(36:30):
your twenties, I was bamboozling niggas. I wasn't think.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It was also a guy that had been trying to
holler at me for three years.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And I feel like you should never get in.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So it was like, aut why you can't give that
guy for three years?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I don't says God bad he was. He was hounding
me a year and a half, trying to holler at me.
When I say, he was going above and beyond trying
to get me talk to him. And then I finally
gave me and I was like, Okay, let's see what's up.
He played the fuck out. He played the and it
took me years to get over the hurt.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
It took me, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
And that's why I feel like, if you initially not
interested in the man and you carved him, he gonna
remember that.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Leave it alone. I'm not I'm not man. Yeah, I
didn't did that. I didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I'm sorry for three years.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I was chasing that three years, and you made me
feel like I wasn't deserving. So you know what those
men do like having a bet them men be up
at night, they being in bed, like just not even
I'm gonna get that, just have gone. And the minutes
you say hey, they like, wait a minute, this is

(37:42):
my time. But but but the truth, you don't give
him no chance. If he hasn't healed, then don't. Yeah,
because the truth is man like, you're not wrong for
wanting to party in your twenties. Yeah, Like, let's and
here's the truth. Can we at least be honest for
once with people. If a woman, what's the party in
her twenties, let her party?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
If a man wants to party in his thirties when
he first got his money, let him party. Let's stop
shaming people who have worked their life for what they want,
enjoying their life, and then when that person is ready
to settle down, they're going to meet the right person
for them. I think the problem is most people want
to put a wide net around the entire species. All
men act like this, because the men that I dated

(38:24):
act like that. No, that's just the men you choose,
all bitches, ain't shit, No, that's just the women you choose.
My g If we start to realize that, well, you
know what I'm saying, We'll be like, we'll give each
other a little bit more grace, and you know what.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Circling back to your original question, I think that women
I can only speak now that I'm in my thirties.
I have a lot of friends and people around me
who I feel like, once you get to thirty, it
starts to become like we talked about this with another case.
I think desperation, the desperation of being his thirty, I
get it. I think when women hit thirty now it's

(38:59):
like this time clock it is, I gotta get married,
I gotta have kids. So I think when the red
flags be red flagging, they be like, oh, it's fine,
because I want to be married, even if it's not
to the right man. Society has made me feel like
I gotta be married and I gotta have kids, And
then what, I'm thirty two, I don't have kids yet.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
They're biological clock ticking, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
And I really think that that is more so what
it is I can say for women in their thirties,
cause I think when you in y'all twenties, some women
do want to get married in their twenties. But a
lot of women that I know they wouldn't even think
about that, and then it stuff. When you turn thirty,
all of a sudden, the pressure is low.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean, I don't I don't thinks. I don't blame
women for not wanting to be married in their twenties. Bro,
Like we live. We live in a capitalist society where
misogyny rules. Yeah, if you are a beautiful woman and
you're getting attention from a bunch of dudes, enjoy yourself. Yeah,
I enjoy yourself.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Of course everyone is going to say what you need
to settle down and not be promiscuous and stuff, But
let's be honest. Monogamy, much like veganism or Christianity, is
a voice. Yes, someone has to choose to want to
be that, and someone has to want to be that
in order to enjoy that aspect of life. I think
it's a disservice to people when we try to cast
a wy net over everybody, like everybody got to be monogamous,

(40:14):
everybody got to be Christian, everybody like that. We got
to stop doing that because we're all different people.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
And I thine having that mindset. Because I do have
that mindset, I don't take things out on it because
everybody is different, everybody's experience is different, absolutely, So I
think I agree with Drea the desperation of women in
the thirties. Like I said, we just talked about this,
But for me, I will say this, I'm just such
a like, Okay, let it be. So now I'm like,

(40:41):
if it's in my path to be with a man
and get married, that's exactly what's going to happen. Because
I know myself and I know it's a good person.
I know I'm a damn good woman. So I don't
have no pressure on it, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
But what you just said makes all the sense in
the world. Though. Think about it. I know who I am.
I'm not going to going to define my existence on
this plan it based on what all the other women
in the world are doing. That's not even your plight
to carry, you know what I'm saying. For me, it's
like whoa Okay, Lex wants to get married. Now I'm
in my thirties. I'm going to be deliberate about finding
the right person. Now. Listening to the statistics and all

(41:14):
of that shit don't really even matter because because none
of that, none of that will ever fit to every
man or woman in the world. I say that because
monogamy works for me, period. But then when men ask me, yo, dude, man,
how you do this? How you do that? The first
thing I asked them do you want to be monogamous
or do you think that being monogamous is the only
way that you can be considered high functioning? And they're

(41:36):
just like, well, I'm listening to these podcasts and they
say monogamous men are high functioning. And I said, bro,
stop just listening to people and ask yourself what you
really want out of life. You know what I'm saying, Like,
we got to stop shaming people for not following the
lifestyle we follow. Monogamy works for me because Deval knows that,
you know what, I love women like a lot. I

(41:58):
do truly love women thing I do. I look at
your mine, She's gorgeous. She's gorgeous. But I also know
that if I'm not disciplined enough to control my urgens
and I'm attacking it, running after every woman, I don't
have the ability to focus on the things that's gonna
help me provide for myself and my family. So monogamy
works for me. There are some men who can balance

(42:18):
both and can chase skirts and chase money and make it.
I would never tell that brother, you gotta be monogamy
or you not high functioning, may get the fuck out
of here. For example, like a fifty cent or Floyd Mayweather.
Both of them brothers are doing way better than I am.
How I look telling them all, you better be monogamous
or you ain't gonna make it in life. It's the
same thing for women. We should never tell women you

(42:38):
better get married or you ain't gonna make it in life.
Oprah ain't never been married. She one of the richest
people in America.

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Speaker 3 (45:20):
So to yo back to your point, though, you made
a really really good point when you said, like basically,
you you can't convince a man that doesn't want to
get married to get married. And I think that that's
where a lot of women mix up too, because they're
dating men who it's obvious that's not the goal, that's
not his goal. So why are you even pursuing that?
Why are you even staying in that situation. In order

(45:42):
for a relationship to be successful, you have to date
somebody where y'all want the same things, yes, and y'all
goals aligned.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yes, it's that simple. That's why I think that the
whole fifty to fifty argument is annoying. The whole who's
going to be submissive to who? Is annoying and pointless
because I know what I'm looking for life. Every woman
in the world is not looking for the same thing
I'm looking for. So what I do is those women
who are not looking for what I'm looking for, I
applaud them for looking for whatever they're looking for. I

(46:10):
don't shame them. For example, they're like, I need a
submissive wife who won't follow me.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Okay, so that's what you look at, the type of
wife you need.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
What if you have a woman here who is a
seven eight nine figure earner, you telling me I'm supposed
to tell that woman she's supposed to submit to me
and she can make more. No, that woman's journey is different.
In like, let her find someone, But it's social the
same thing for men, right, women will sell the time.
I want somebody six y two abs, make a lot
of money, can fuck all night. But if that nigga

(46:39):
just want to be a homebody and take care of
his kids, there's a woman for him. It may not
be for you. But why why shame him? To mold him?
You see what I'm saying. Why try to mold him.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I can shame him a little bit. I ain't gonna
mold him. You can't shame it's a little bit work.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
So so here's the thing I I and I've been
called misogynistic because of this. Really I believe it is
the man's job to work. The reason is, well, I
was called misogynistic because some women, and I had to
agree with this segment. Some women are not made to
have children. Some women don't want to have children. But

(47:18):
you can't define their womanhood by saying if you don't
have children, for a man, you're not more of a woman.
And I had to mature enough as a man to
understand that. You know what, that's a valid fucking point.
So for me, I personally feel for devow that I
want to be able to support my wife. I want
to be able to make all the money, and if
she wants to make money, she can. But if she
don't and she wanted to be a homemaker, she could

(47:39):
do that too. I was called misogynistic by some women
who feel like I'm controlling my wife. But you know
what I learned in that I'm not for that woman.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
She need to write a house to buzz because she
got all the answers.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
A lot of people feel they got all the answers.
You know, when you realize you don't got all the answers,
that's when you start to advance in life.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
How do you start to evolve?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
When you evolved when you realize, you know what, I
hadn't arrived the minutes you think you arrived, that's when
you really lost.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
So the first topic we wanted to ask you because
there's two different sayings that people always say. They always
say behind every successful man is a strong woman. You know,
married men are more successful. Technically show this right. And
then on the other hand, they have statistics to show
single women live longer, single women are happier, you know,

(48:32):
like being independent and being free. And you know, we
see people like Oprah who has a little situation, but
she does what she can do. You know, we see
the Tracy Ellis Ross, so we see all these women
were like, hmm, that don't look so bad. So, how
do you feel like as a married man, society should
approach things like that?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
And do you feel like that's true? Like Brian and married,
do you feel like, for example, your success is it
attributed to a certain extent by your relations and ship
in your marriage.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah. The first thing I will say is that I
wouldn't be the person I am if it wasn't for
my wife and my partner. Right when I was eighteen
nineteen years old and I told Kadeen that I wanted
to be an actor, I'm going to use the NFL.
She made my breakfast, she did the stretches when I
separated my shoulder and I had to sleep sitting on
her dance. She was sitting. That's why. That's what it was.

(49:23):
It was the shoulder that Lex. I ain't fucking with you, man.
I heard my shoulder playing football. Okay, okay, I'm out
here in the street. I'm out here. I got stats
to prove it.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Probably the brook Churst.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I'm gonna fight Lex before I leave. I'm gonna fight
les all my Brooklyn nights. Y'all know what the Brooklyn is.
The brook Up, I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But she was doing the stretchy.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
She she was all of those things. She was there
when I was training for the NFL. She she was there.
She she helped me create. Okay, I'm a visual learner. Right,
you get playbooks. The playbooks sound like this, you know,
hop the trips, right motions, scot right five twenty five
f post swing, ready break. Every word, every word has

(50:08):
a meaning. My wife made flash cards with every word
in those things, and it had a definition. And that's
how I practice learning the place. So she was when
they know what they say. She wasn't with me shooting
in the gym. She was with me shooting in the gym.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Because maybe they sounded like a whole different language than me.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I was like what, But that's why I praise in
honor my wife's much, because she literally was. And sometimes
people say, like, man, why you doing all of that
like your wife? I say, yeah, maybe your wife didn't
do it what my wife did, but I will. The
first thing I say is I am who I am
because I have a support system. Not only my wife,
my parents, her parents, that the mentors in my life
were poured into me. They all made the vow possible.

(50:49):
So it wasn't just my wife. It wasn't just me,
It wasn't just God. It was a combination of everything.
But I will say this about statistics. First and foremost
statistics are skewed because I will say this, nobody never
asked me a fucking question. Where are these statistics coming from?
I've been married for fourteen years and no one ever
asked me.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
You never did, went on family feud? Who asked them?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
You see what I'm saying. We've asked one hundred would
be white people. That's the first thing. You know, it's
one hundred white people.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You ain't.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Nobody else asking, right, You see what I'm saying. So
the first thing we gotta do is throw out those
things because they typically don't ask Black people. A lot
of the things they ask and these statistics and stuff
like that aren't about us, so we can just dismiss that.
The second thing I will say is if we're going
to rate success based on Western views, which means what
white people say is considered successful, yeah, we're all going

(51:39):
to fall short, because these views have never been made
for us. Remember, we would consider three fifths of a
human being in this country since since seventeen when in
this country seventeen seventy four we want to consider humans Keith.
So since we weren't consider humans, why would we ever
listen to their rhetoric about how we're supposed to behave
That's why I say, find out what works for you.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I'm know somebody who listened to doctor Umar. When I
see it, a walk king, I know that's right, brother.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
What do you call the doctor Umar?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I don't know, but listen. I'm not one hundred percent
always in agreement with everything doctor Umar said, but he
love when he talks when he talks about the black family. Yeah,
you know he's cooking. He'd be cooking when you talk
about the black family. If you look at the history
of this country, we like. Nothing they talk about when

(52:33):
they talk about family and relationships is ever with us.
I think we will look at those things and say, well,
percentages say the percentages don't include up.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
That was a great point because I never thought about
that because honestly, when they talk about statistics, like he said,
you have been married for what twelve years, wife, four kids,
twenty two years and ain't nobody asked you? She never
first time you asked me when Alexandroya.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
And you would be the candidate. Well, i'll give you
another statistics. Right, what's the narrative that we hear about
black men. They don't give me no, no, no, they
don't like who oh, they don't like black black women.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
So the national average for black men who are married,
what do they married to? It's got to be bla
black women at what percentage? Over eighty five percent? So here,
here's another one. Here's another one. But it don't matter though,
because once they make money, that's when they go get
white women, white women. The national average for making over
two hundred thousand dollars black men, right, how many of

(53:28):
those women men are married to black women? I'll give
him bout a cools ninety five percent, not at five.
This is why this is listen, because they'll show you.
They'll show you the one black athlete who may be
married to a white woman. Right, But then think about
Russell Westbrook, Russell Wilson, Von James, Steph Curry. I can

(53:52):
keep going and going, Willie Cologne or who else? These
I'm talking about my friends now that I know, Stephen Bowen,
Marcus Colston, Kyle Aronson, all married, all wealthy, they money,
all married to black women.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
And then when you hear the horror stories we got
to talk about Scottie Pippot.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
You see what I'm saying, girl, what's let's.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
But bitch outside with future is crazy?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Lex has a good point, though, because they'll show the
Scottie Pippins right, and they'll say, look, this is how
black men behave. But that's not the fact I'm married
to a black woman. My woman is black, she's Jamaican, Evincenti,
and her mom is black as a motherfucker, a grandmother
Black is a motherfucker. But they'll never push that out
there because it don't fall in line with the narrative
they want. You got to understand that destroying the black

(54:38):
family has been on the the the forefront of the
mind of the people created this country.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
We weren't allowed to get married first, right, and even
when we got married, there was a lot of times
they took our women and raped our women and we
had to watch because they do not want us to
get together. Because if you have black the black family
and we continue to work together. What's gonna happen to
the wealth that happens in this country is gonna who
black people are kids. How do you destroy the black

(55:04):
wealth in this country, destroy the black family, make black
women think that black men don't love them, make black
men think that black women don't respect them. That's all
a fallacy. It's not true. The older I get, I'm
forty years old now, the more I realize that everything
I've learned from mass media has been programmed by people
who have an agenda. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist,

(55:25):
but I'm not, but it is what it is. You
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I mean because I oh, we had this conversation a
while back with the guests that we had and I
can't remember, but we were basically talking about like government
assistance and housing and things like that, and they were saying,
how literally, like if you are a struggling you know,
a woman, and you're on housing, you can't have a
man in the house.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
You can't purposefully the minutes you have a man in
the house, they will take yours. So you know what
people started to do in the seventies. I noticed, because
I have a family who've been through this. Dad may
be in the home common law marriage because men was
if I'm married, you can't get the assistance. I also
won't be there when the person who comes and checks
on the house and the kids. So when they come

(56:07):
by this, so this woman here by herself, the dad
will be in a closet, the dad will be somewhere else.
I have family members who I watch go through this
and they're like, you know, the government coming by. But
the reason why they do that is to be able
to get what they need from the government. And I
hate to say this to say this, but I'm going
to say this. Matter of fact, I'm not gonna say it.

(56:27):
I'm not even give her name. But there is a
talking head who always speaks about the black family in
the black community, and because we have painted her as
a villain, we won't listen to what her messages are.
I don't agree with all of her messages. That's why
I want to accept her. I won't say her name
because I won't even give her I think you do.

(56:50):
I won't give her any press on your platform. So
it's fair because of what you do. So I won't
do that. But when you listen to some of the
things she says. She's absolutely true. The black black people
in this country are the best when we are together.
Look at Black Wall Street right. The minute we start
to work together, they tear it down, right, and they

(57:11):
tear it down. They tear us apart, and they tell
us all the time, mass incarceration was the same thing.
How can we get black fathers out of the house.
Let's put them in prison. Right. Let's look at the
voting cycle, right, Only four percent of black men in
this country voted this year, not four percent of black men.
Four percent of the voting population were black men. And
the first thing they'll say is, mind you, we're only

(57:33):
fifteen percent of the population. First they say is black
men don't vote. But what they won't say is that
eighty percent of the prison population is black men, and
if they can't vote, it brings down the numbers. But
rather than say that, you know what, they'll say, black
men don't vote and they won't vote for Kamala. You
see what I'm saying. It's like they just do things
in order to tear us apart, and we have to

(57:53):
do a good job or a better job of staying together.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Which is so crazy.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Because it's like, how do we live in a tree
where feelings can't vote, but one could be the president.
But that's another time.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Because this country was never made for us. Think about it,
This constitution and everything was made for a white man.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
And I'm not gonna lie. I have seen that narrative
a lot today because obviously when y'all see this episode,
we already know that Trump has won again president. Yeah,
and it's been a lot of the narrative that they
were trying to blame, you know, like the black men
and all this stuff. But when you saw the voting
and everything they.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Had the statistics, Yeah, I think voted for Kamala because
I said that to my man and he went off
on me.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
What you said to say? What you said? You said
black men are going from?

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I was like, I feel like black men didn't show
up and nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
He was like, hold on, oh, he's gonna get them
numbers out. That's one thing.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I was like, my bad, I'm sorry, no, but but
I mean this is this is really important for us
as a community of people to stop pointing a finger
at each yeah, and let me sit down with some queens.
Not for enough. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. Right,
I'm not gonna lie to y'all the first the minute
my team sending me yo, you're gonna go to poor minds.
You know why I want to sit down with black

(59:08):
women and discuss about relationships. I told you, I've been
watching y'all. I want to discuss it so that it
doesn't have to be combative.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Right. A long time ago, we decided to stop that
gender war because we used to do that a lot.
We were in that gender war.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Like all they used to say we was male bashers.
I never feel like we were, to be honest, I
just think we had a lot of different opinions.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Can I be honest? Sure, I never thought that y'all
were male bashing, but I did think that based on
what you've lived through in your life, you told your truth,
and the truth is a lot of people don't want
to hear your truth if it doesn't fit what they
want yeah to be. So I can understand why you
got that label and not say that it was fair.
But I mean I get the same label too. If

(59:53):
I tell my truth about life, whoever is on the
opposite side of that truth is going to feel like
I'm bashing them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And that goes to a good point, because that's why
our community is so separated. Because you'll say one thing,
they'll be ready to cancel you and not solidary. One
thing about the white folks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
They gonna stick together. They gonna stick together, but they
But I'm gonna challenge you on this. We talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Today we talk about black Twitter. Why because we're all
on black Twitter. How much time if you spend on
white Twitter or Spanish Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
But what I can say Chinese Twitter, you're right, but
black Twitter is, but black Twitter ourst enemy exactly. Black
Twitter is also the people who be dragging me everything
just because I'll be like, oh I don't like pork chops.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Oh my god, you don't like sick. Don't don't even
bring up grits because if you talk about grits on
black Twitter, whether it's sugar problem. But what I will
say this is you don't know the beefs that go
on in the other Twitter. We don't be on it.
White people be beefing, bro. I've seen white people and
white men and white women going at it over Taylor

(01:02:16):
Swift because white women been saying Taylor Swift is their saviors,
She's their Beyonce. Right, So white women is up here.
I'm independent, and I've seen white men going at them.
There was there was a post on white Twitter today,
White Twitter Twitter that Fox News posted that Taylor Swift
is a hypocrite because she always talks about climate change,

(01:02:39):
but she flew a private jet to get to the game,
and it has more A private jet has more emissions
than any veg. So I'm watching these white people go
back and forth, and I'll saying, you know what's funny.
If this was a black news site and this was Beyonce,
we would be saying that black people are our own
worst enemy. White people do the same thing. Today's Stars
two and they people, we got to stop giving them

(01:03:00):
a past, like they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I don't give them a past because I'll say this
because people always look at black podcasts, they be like, oh,
they don't do that, man. White podcasts be doing the
same they do. The podcast take away the microphone. I
agree as far as Like what you're saying is they
be doing the same thing as far as they talk
about relationship tipes and they talk about fifty to fifty,
they do this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
They do the same things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
But when I say solidarity, I'm talking about when it
comes to like one cause as serious and as big
as politics, they do not care that this man has
a feeling he's been accused of rape, assault, everything under
Sunday Like, we don't want a black woman in there,
so we gonna come together. And that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I feel when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Making a change or what kind of change that they
want you, they don't care about what's white women As
a woman, it doesn't matter what race you are as
a woman. To vote for Trump is absolutely insane. But
what they do is they're gonna stick by their skin
color before what's even best for them as it's an
individual person.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
So that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
It's also a marriage thing though, because I was having
a conversation. I was having a conversation with I'm men
and he was just like, to be honest, a lot
of people didn't vote for her because people in marriages
want to have babies. If that's like like most people
are one policy voters, So a lot of people voting
for Kamala just because she was more you know, pro choice.
And he was basically saying, like people who are married,

(01:04:25):
women who are married, they don't care about abortion men.
But it's not about the abortion man, because what happens
when you're on the table and you're hemmerid I'm saying,
I feel like dying because they're looking at abortion as Oh,
I have sex with somebody and I got pregnant. There's
women on the table that are hemorrhaging and they're dying. Yeah,
and they can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Abort the baby because it's illegal. I don't care that
you went to the club and had sex with somebody.
Now you're pregnant. Yea, that's not what we're talking about.
But they're using that as an excuse. But they're not
looking at the thousands and thousands of black women who
are dying giving birth. You know what I'm saying. It's
a much bigger issue. So I get But as a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
White woman, why do you but guess?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
But it's going to be different when you sit on
you have a you have a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Good point, and this is what I will have to say.
We as a Black community, expect everybody to just understand
our plight and care about our plight, and the plight
don't address you while why would a white why would
a Karen care about a Dre' see?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Black women, you see what I'm saying, they wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
And if we're being fair about not representing, seventy eight
percent of black men voted for Kamala. Ninety one percent
of Black women voted for Kamala. Not that many white
people voted for Trump like it wasn't in the nineties
and the seventies. There were less white people who voted

(01:05:47):
for Trump, which means there were less white people who
were in agreement with his policies and his politics, which
means white people don't always rock with white people. The
bottom line is is that black people only fifteen percent
of the population. It's fifty population, then Kamala would be
the president. But the truth is is that we're still
the minority, and we would need our Latino and Latina

(01:06:11):
sisters and brothers, and yes, I mean I mean a lot.
A lot of those groups failed us. But that brings
me back to my point. We should not ever be
worried about any of those groups.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
This is that's like this, this is the building we
got to the people of color, the POC and trying
to group us all together this election. You didn't know before,
you know now it ain't no one one for all groups.
Oh we are people of color.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
That's not what it's getting. No, it's never been that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It's never it's never been that. I mean, they've always
tried to group us together. So I just hope that
this woke up our I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Mean they do, but I think that us being a
part of the community, we know it's always being a divide.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I was having a conversation with some I was on live.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I was on TikTok Live because I know you've watched
probably some of our shows whatever, but I talked about
being apt and stuff. So like my biological dad is
half Dominican. So I was on live one day and
somebody had said something about that and they was like,
but I was like, I'm still like because they were like,
aren't you mixed or something? And I was like, no,
I'm not mixed. Like my biological dad is half Dominican,

(01:07:15):
but my grandfather was Afro Latino, like he was a
black man and ethnicity, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
They was like they was like don't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
They was like, don't say that on Live Dreia it
do it do? And they was like, don't say that
on Live Drea because you know, Dominicans get mad when
you say they black. But it's like, but why y'all
on the same island with Haiti and y'all look just
like facts, But y'all mad that people say y'all black.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I mean it's always been.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Do you know what I mean? Man, it's easy. It's
easier to be accepted when you are in alignment with
European value. M It's that simple, like we can't sit
here and make it seem like that ain't what it is.
The reason why Puerto Ricans and Dominicans beef is because
Puerto Ricans say, well, we're Americans, you're not a marria Can.
But then when you look at Puerto Rican culture, they

(01:08:02):
tend to assimilate to European ideals, whereas Dominicans, like you say,
look like Haitians. They share the same island Spanish, you
see when they just speak Spanish. But they was like,
I'm not black, I'm Dominican. If you understand. Oh god,
so here's a funny thing, right, you look at me

(01:08:23):
I'm from New York. You look at me. Right, There's
a bunch of Dominicans walk into a bodegga. I'm like,
you'll probably let me get a baker egg and cheese,
like all you Dominican. They start speaking Spanish like no,
I'm not Dominican, I'm black. And I'm like, yeah, we
could be brothers. They literally say to me, I'm black,
I'm Dominican. Yeah, and they they'll be darker than me. Please.

(01:08:45):
I just if there's one thing I want you all
to think about, don't shame people for their ideals. I
don't understand where they're coming from. And even as ignorant
and as it is, like for example, Dominicans saying I'm
not black, as ignorant as it is, you got to understand, like,
you know what, that person's trying to survive and exist
in this world. And if they got something negative to

(01:09:05):
say to me because I said the dominicand that's where
they are in that moment, I'm not gonna waste no
energy going back at something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's earlier about like
the percentages of what people make and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
And how Yeah, yeah, that's that's how you learn to
love people and not be so upset when they disagree
with you. You're like, okay, you disagree with me because
you're going through something the value you'd always da da Okay,
you will never understand because you know what you may
be right. I may never understand. But what I did
was I put out some content and it made you
feel a way. So then now you got to deal

(01:09:39):
with how you feel. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's how I address everything I had two years ago
is when the slap happened, and I had people in
the industry ask me, what's your thoughts about this? And
this is always with my answer. I said, well, I'll
tell you like this. If your father and a dad
and you you've been in a public eye and your

(01:10:00):
kids have been scrutinized and been called names, and your
wife has been picked on and stuff, you know who
you side with? You side with Will If you're a
comedian and you're just trying to do your art and
you're trying to go out hand and entertain people and
you just got slapped on stage, you know who you
side with, Chris Rock. If you're a content creator and
you you know you out here trying to make the
best images possible, and then you're upset that Will Smith

(01:10:22):
and Chris Rock destroyed the Oscars. You side with Will
Packer because Will Packer is the one who produced the Oscars,
the first black producer, and the Oscars happened in twenty
twenty two. And this is what we gotta deal with.
If you're a woman and you feel like you've never
been protected and finally someone stood up and slapped the
shit out of somebody, you siding with Jada. And when

(01:10:43):
I say that, people be like, I never thought about
it like that. That's how we gotta think about life, Yo,
think about what you're going through in a moment. You're
gonna side with, not who's right, You're gonna side with
who you relate to. You know what I'm saying, there's
no black and white right or wrong. There's so many
shades of great. And you got to start asking yourself
if I felt like this, what am I going through?

(01:11:04):
That made me relate to that? And then start thinking
like that, because that's what I did the minute it happened.
The first thing I said was good for that motherfucker
he got slapt because I'm tired of him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
And then I had to think about, like shit, because
that comment was just so unnecessarious.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
It was unnecessary, It was the wrong time. It wasn't
his first time saying something to you. Yeah, like they
had a lot, they had what he was from.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
When I found out that, you know, he was trying
to you know, that's what it made it a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
They didn't intention yeah, yeah, since since two thousand and
I think it was twenty seventeen, the first time he
hosted the Oscars. But the reason why I brought that
point is I think I hope people listen to this
and realize them when I disagree with someone, Am I
disagreeing with them because I really don't agree? Or am
I disagreeing because what they're saying triggered something in me
that I had to look at myself, right, you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Know, so in the same breast as we were talking about.
And I hate to bring it back to these it
was so many I hate to say this, but it
was a lot of like higher up like white people
who were so like, will how dare you? How dare you?
But y'all are acting like this man gutted him on
stage in front of you know what, I'm saying he
was it right. No, you should put your hands on nobody. Now.

(01:12:14):
I'm not saying that what he did was whatever, but
y'all were acting like he just hung this man on
National TV Live. But then, y'all are the same people
who were in Trump's corner understandable and things for we
know for a fact that he's done things that could
land you in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Can I tell you something funny that you said that
My thirteen year old son brought up to me made me.
That gave me perspective. And he wasn't thirty at the time.
He said, Dad, I got a question. Why were so
many more people upset about the slap than they were
about George Floyd. Hmm, okay, this is mine at the time.
Twelve year old son. Yeah, And I had to explain him.

(01:12:55):
I said, you know, when people can't see themselves in
a victim, they think it does matter. So if you're
not a black man, if you never dealt with substance abuse,
if you're not a George Floyd, then you look at
that situation and then you think of every excuse as
to why that had to happen. But then if you're
a rich, pampered elitist white person and you see another

(01:13:17):
person walk over and slap someone on stage on national TV.
The first thing you think of is this is appalling.
That's how I had to explain it to him, and
he was just like, that doesn't make sense. Said, emotions
don't make sense, bro, you know what I'm saying. Like emotions,
the fact that they feel a way. You see what
I'm saying. No, I say that don't got to make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
It only has to make sense to the person that's
having any emotion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Something that It was just a moment for them to
like shit on wheel too, like the waiting. They cannot
stand that the one of the number one actors in
the world who can literally drop a movie right now
it's gonna do millions in the box office because movies,
it's hard to do a movie right now. Most movies
are going to the theaters, but they're also going to stream. Absolutely,

(01:14:03):
Will Smith can drop a movie and it's gonna be nowhere,
and he'll put it at AMC only and it's still
gonna do one hundred million. So this was their moment,
like we got it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yeah, I still agree. I agree. I would have to
be a thousand whenever you get a chance to hate
someone who's doing so well that they're doing better than me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
I mean, but we always get we always get a
different response. So many people was like, I mean, this
last Bad Boys movie, it was good, but let this
be the last one. Y'all ain't say that about y'all
ain't said that about Rocky.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Y'all didn't say that about it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
And it's like fifteen reason said three words.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Bro, we know they killed the dog. I'm sorry, and
they got ten motherfucker John Wicks. Y'all, let them Bad Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Keep coming because I'm gonna still go watch you every time.
Every time. I'm gonna watch every time. I watched every
Bad Boy. That's my favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I'll watched sorry that with a son in law d.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Favorite part of the movie. It was a bad part,
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Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
If We've been wanting to talk to somebody that's married
about it for a while because I grew up in
a two parent household. My parents were married my whole life,
and my mom, she always, you know, tells me that
her and my dad they just had one joint bank account,
and I'd be like, girl, you won't have a little stash.
But then I ain't never been married, So maybe that's
the wrong ideology.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
To have, don't. I don't think it's the wrong I
don't think it's the wrong ideology. Like Kadein and I,
we have multiple bank accounts. Okay, we have our business
bank account where all of the money come because that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
You avoid are we like a married couple, you know,
being in business with somebody who's like But we got
the same type of citus.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
So I also got I almost got canceled being canceled.
I said, marriage is a business.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Well, the Bible boppers came to me and was like,
marriage is a covenant on the God. The fact that
you said marriage is a business, I can't follow. I said, fine,
if that's how it made you feel, you know what
I'm saying, That's how I felt. I said, Hey, I
think two things can be true. I didn't say that
it wasn't a covenant of the but it is definitely
a business right. Kadin and I share a business account.
Under that business account, we have a trust. All of

(01:17:33):
our money goes to our trust, our kids first, to
make sure that we're good. Then we have a joint
bank account, which is our savings. Her and I agree,
this is what we're working on in this calendar year.
Under that. She got her own checking account and I
got my own checking account because I don't want you
checking me on what I'm trying to buy, and I
don't want to have to check you on what you

(01:17:53):
trying to buy because you're also an individual.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
But as long as but all the money goes through
the business account, and you can.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Still absolutely no, I can't. I can't see her checking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
What I'm saying. But you know how much goes in
there every every week?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Every week? I know so because because that's the partnership.
Partnership is. And but the thing is her having her
own her little stash. I ask her sometime, like how
much money you got in your checking account? And she's like,
I got a little song. Why I just make it
on and I still I'm making sure you're good. Because
one thing about Kadeena, She's gonna ask me. She was like, baby,
I saw this bag, and I'm like, why are you
asking me? You got your money? Yeah, And she's like, no,

(01:18:32):
I just want to make sure that we are good.
And I tell her, by the time it gets to
that account, which is your account, You're gonna ask no
fucking questions because I'm not asking no questions. If I'm
a plan something for you and surprise you, I don't
want you to know what I'm supprised. My vice is
not her vice. I like cars. I like cars. She
likes bags and shoes and trips. I don't want her

(01:18:52):
to have to She's an individual. Imagine somebody's baby. Can
I buy? Get the fuck? You're an adult and she works.
She works, so you have your money that goes to you.
I got my money to go to But ultimately, the
estate building and the legacy building is already done before
it gets to that point. So at that point, there's
no arguments because we've already taken care of the kids

(01:19:14):
and ourselves, you know. And the truth is I made
that a priority when we first got together. I told
her I said, Yo, if we're going to live together
and be together, we got to be able to discuss
finance in real time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
That's an uncomfortable conversation. What but you know what I
had I tell you all the time, if you can't
have an uncomfortable conversation with your partner, your friend, your family,
that exactly. Uncomfortable conversations always lead to growth every time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
But you also realize that the uncomfortable conversations you're having
isn't because that person just wants to be defiant or you.
It's because y'all grew up differently. And I learned that
my father in law never discussed with my wife finances.
He was the bread well he wasn't. Well, this is
another thing. My wife's mom was the breadwinner. Jamaican woman

(01:20:07):
came over, became a nurse, director of nurse and she
made over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
Her father was a CNA. CNA's you know, they aren't wives.
He made about forty five kids, but all the money
they got collectively he bought property in the eighties and nineties,
so here he wasn't the type of man that made
a lot of money. On the salary, but he had

(01:20:28):
the mental fortitude and the vision to buy multiple properties
and put all of their kids through college with the
properties he bought in equity within the So watching that,
watching my dad, I said, Okay, it's my job as
the man to make sure that we have a plan financially.
But I don't want my wife to feel like she's
a child in the house. And she got to come
to me every day and be like, Babe, I want

(01:20:49):
to get a nun. Here's your salary based on what
you make. Here's my salary based on what I make.
My salary goes to the kids like I just don't.
I don't. I'm like, I'm gonna lie. My wife bought this.
I was about to say, you want you want to
hear a funny story? Funny stories. Thirty eighth birthday, my

(01:21:13):
wife says to me. He's like, hey, baby, get up,
You're going to the mall, like the mall, Like it's
my birthday. Why the fuck we going to the mall.
Like we go to the mall, we go to the jeweler.
She goes, get whatever you want. I know that this
is my wife. Now now now mind you, I'm the
I'm the breadwinner. She'd be frinking. And when I tell you,

(01:21:34):
I felt like a bad bitch in it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I was like, I was like, I can get down.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Get I got this watch, I got this bracelet, I
got this necklace, he said. And I was like, is
this too much? Is too much? And she was like no,
get it off. She's like, get it off. And then
when she went and got she got me this because
I don't I don't buy jewelry, so she got me
all of these things. She got me all these things.

(01:22:00):
You brought it for my birthday. This is why I
wear it because I want people know she got me
all of these van cleaves. I don't know what a
vain clee was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I was like, no, that this that is expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
That risks. She taught me about Van Cleave and Cardier bracelets.
But I'm like, man, you get to do what you
want to do as a woman. That's got to make
you feel empowered. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Because
she make home money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Period. Man, he is expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Now that's the fact. If a woman comes to me,
I'm gonna be like listen, now, listen, I'll smash Can
you get me an ap ice style? That's that's hilarious.
I'm expensive. I'm a bad bitch. I'm expensive. I thought it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
So now it's time take it into the big, big foul.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
We don't get in your business to look shoulder. That's
my wife about the shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I am so good. Okay, this is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
So we were talking about snogamy earlier, right, and we
were talking about you know you were You're saying like
that is a decision that you made what you wanted to.
But monogamy does look different for you know, everybody. So
I just want to know, not saying that you do
this or anybody. I'm just saying, what is your opinion
on hall passes? And let me define hall passes for

(01:23:37):
the big that are watching. So a hall pass is
basically like a man or a woman they let their
partner like, Okay, you can go out whatever it is
like once a year, twice a year and do whatever
you want with whoever you want, and that's your hall pass.
I can't get mad. I don't ask you what. There's
no conversation about it, and that's your hall pass. So
how do you feel about hall passes?

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Me? Personally, I'm not a whole past god selfish. Yeah right,
But I also understand that my wife is selfish. So
when it comes to that, I know that I have
to do my best to be everything she needs. People said,
if I why you work out all the time. I
work out all the time because when I get out
the shower, I want my wife to look at me
and be like, yeah, yeah, I got so I get

(01:24:24):
out the shower and slow motion with you. I'm good
with you. I'm like, you see this glisten. You see
this glisten? Baby? Do you see the glisten? That's what
I do, and I and I think it's important that
men understand it's just important for us to keep ourselves
up as we ask our women to keep ourselves up.

(01:24:45):
I like a slim waist, fat ass, you know what
I'm saying. Some some perky joint. Some I like the
full lips. Yeah. I like a nice you know, nice,
subtle makeup. I don't like too much makeup. I like
subtle makeup, light beat, you know what I'm saying. Not
too much contour. I don't like the contour too much.
You know what I'm saying. I don't like that. Man.
I got I got my demands. I feel you but
my wife got her demands too, you know what I'm saying.

(01:25:07):
So I got to stay six packed up. You know,
she like broad shoulders, she like a big chest. I'm
ab ump like im. Don't I cut I cut dairy
out my dollet, I cut red meat. My wife told
me what she like. I was like, okay, okay. She
she like a strong man with a strong physique. So

(01:25:27):
I still deadlift, I still squat, I still hang clean.
Because if I got a picture I picked, I pick
off up here, I'll be like, come on, baby, I
put her on here. I just like, come on baby.
Sometimes women like the lift up, you know, they like
to climb on. And it's like, let me grab here.
And just she's five five.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Small right the average, and I'm five eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I'm five eleven, So I know most women prefer six
oneing up. I said, I understand that, but I'm not
six one. You know what I'm saying. But I'm strong though,
no father love, it ain't too shy of it, but
it ain't six to one. And I get you. And
one thing I tell you, gentlemen, if you have deficiencies
in your life, man, don't don't be upset about it.
I could never be six to one. But what I
will do is lift my ass so that I can

(01:26:16):
you know, you know what I'm saying, And I eat
right so that I can be here. You know what
I'm saying. I don't do the two minute joint. If
we're gonna be honest, I know. I am the type
of lover I love so never a quickie. Sometimes I
don't like quickies. You want to know why I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I don't like long sakes either, though I get that
she don't like long So we got four kids, she
don't got time for all, but she do like to orgasm.
I think it needs, Yeah, it needs to be a
good amount of time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
But but so we we've been married for a long
time and not for nothing. Men do like the long
sex sessions because we like to be in there. We
like to see y'all. Yeah, but I've learned to understand.
I've understood that if you're not helping your women get
to her place, you can't have long sessions. I've also
learned that if she gets to her place too fast,

(01:27:04):
it's gonna be over. So what I learned how to
do is help my wife edge, which means I'll keep
her on the like, this is this is my move.
You know I'm gonna put y'all up on because they
don't know this is my this is my thing. I'm
gonna tell you the game, this is what you do,
this is what you do. Tell you, I'm gonna tell
you that's what you do. Right. I love to see

(01:27:26):
my woman enjoy sex. For the first thing I'm gonna
do is I'm gonna put my mouth on it. You
know what I'm saying. I got nice lips. I know
women like my lips, so I make sure that she
did right. Then what I do is I make sure
it's right there to the point, and then I stop.
Then I beat that thing up. Because when I beat
that thing up, because now she's edging, I feel like no.

(01:27:50):
I think it's important for men and women to understand
that men don't only think about themselves when it comes
to sex. I get her right to where she edges.
Then I beat that thing up. And then when I'm
beating that thing up getting what I want and I
know that I'm about to, that's when I stopped. That's
why y'all go. Then I put a back on her
back and I say, baby, hold this one more time,

(01:28:11):
and then I just.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
There you putting this drink.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Then I make I make them means I get them
legs shaking. I'm gonna get them legs shaken. I'm gonna
get them lugs shaking. Once the legs starts shaking, that's
when I get behind that joint and I just you
see the should I get behind.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
That, he'll be beating that up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Four kids later, baby, okay one half? Four kids? Was
that like the golf was it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Just like?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
We both we had them three we both came from Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
So I told her in college, I only have boys.
I don't have girls. And I told her that right,
I'm not lying, but I wanted a girl. You don't
wanted the girl because I felt like my wife deserved
a little version of her that she.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Could groom into being, you know, and want have been
so cute because y'all kids are extremely.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
That's crazy though, because I think my sister is like that.
She only has boys.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Yeah, She's like, does she want to have another one?
I think they do. I think they do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
But she's like, I can't deal with this. She's like,
I'm in the house with three boys.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Three men.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
That's what I'm saying. So for your wife, oh lord,
And I've.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Been following you and your wife on social media for
a while because, like I said, I'm a I'm a
fan of listens and I love y'all dynamic too. But
like I know that y'all said, y'all not gonna have
any more kids.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
You can't. Yeah, you can't have any more kids. I
gotta rect me know that's right. You see, he needed
one the alone, like I didn't need one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
That show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Y'all we are the Only reason why God to a
sected me is because she was postpartum, yeah, I think
after the last one, and she got on birth control.
But the birth control made her knee mick and I
was like, Yo, you've already did enough to give us
for kids. Let me do my parts. Plus I thank you.
I received that, But I also was being selfish, and

(01:30:14):
I knew that if I had a resected me and
she didn't have to worry about it, she would be
more inclined to be you know what I'm saying, I
am freaking so listen. I will say this about monogamy.
This is why I enjoy monogamy. I'm nasty clearly. I
like to I like to lick and kiss, and I
like i'm I'm I'm the type of guy that kay,

(01:30:35):
come up here, sit up, sit up here, let me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
You can't do that whatever, But do you feel like
that's why y'all's relationship in y'all marriage have lasted so
long because y'all keep his spike.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Absolutely, I'm allowed to be the sexual being that I
am because my wife embraces it. I don't. I don't
come home and have to deal with that's my camera man,
My camera man over there, that's my boy Matt. He
will tell you around nine thirty, right, no matter how
many people we got in the house, Kadeen is gonna

(01:31:04):
go put on some red shorts they say co ed
on the back. It's gonna be a crop top. Matt
will be the one to say, yo, trying to wrap
this ship up because she knows what her husband needs.
She knows my oldest son, Jackson knows Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Will come to me like that, Oh I have a jackson,
my nephew's Jackson, and you'll be like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Know, And that's the responsibility as a man. My responsibility
is provided make sure that I give everything I have
sexualy to my wife. My wife understands that it's my opportunity,
it's my obligation to make sure my husband's good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
But I love that fun too. It's say I love
that like I love hearing their perspectiveness because it makes
you actually look forward to being married, which which makes
me have a question for you. Okay, y'all. So now
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Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
We have our first product, you guys. It's called La
La land Cosmetics. I have one the creamy red lip gloss.
It's called such an Aries. It's so pretty and look
at the packageing I love. I love that it's bling bling.
Oh okay, so but it's so pretty though.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Yeah, you're a lipstick lip gloss connis, you know, so
talk about like the texture of it, the shine, the sheen,
all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
So I love the texture of it. It's very much
non sticky. I hate a super sticky lip gloss. It's
not sticky at all. It's very creamy. And I've been
having it all for you know, hours, so we've been last.
It's real cute and look at the pigmy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I like that, So y'all know me. I am a
highlighter girly. I love a good highlight. So she also
sent us and shout out to La La This brand
is actually it's vegan and cruelty free, and it's black owned,
so you are supporting a black owned business. So I
don't know if y'all remember a long time ago when
they used to have the Anastasia Beverly Hills highlighter palettes.

(01:33:12):
The girl's not doing highlighter palates no more. And you
can also use this as a bless you girl, use
it as an eyeshadow. So I actually have on the
Sunset highlighter.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
And the good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
About this palette is it gives you options, Okay, And
she sent a brush with us, so she does have
highlighter brushes. Brushes very soft and went on super smooth.
And I always love a gold highlight. I think on
that brown skin, it just gives like I've been sitting
in the sun all day. Yes, so yes, shout out
to La La land Cosmetics. I love the highlighter. And

(01:33:47):
then she also has a what's it called the Chocolate
chocolate lit bloss set. So I have on box of
chocolate li box of chocolate lipt gloss set. So I
put on the rees kisses. It's like a nude color.
And one thing I love because they be forgetting about
the brown skin girls when it comes to nude colors.

(01:34:08):
So these are like nude for like the women of color.
So it has like a darker brown in there, like
a darker kind of like pinkish chocolate chocolate color. But
I have on the more like nude pink and I
put it on with a brown lipliner, a dark brown
lipliner and a clear gloss. And baby, I'm just a
I stick to the same colors on my lip.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
And I feel like this chocolate brown color will be
perfect for the fall. Y'all, fall is coming up, So yeah,
this would be really really cute with like a chestnut lipliner.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I love that.

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Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Yeah, Like I wanted to ask you because, like I
feel like, your beautiful family, your beautiful wife, so many
people look up to y'all as couple goals. So do
you ever feel the pressure to be a couple goals?

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
It's funny. It's funny you ask that question because the
first thing I hate, the whole couple of goals things. Yes,
in this conversation, I realized I don't think that there's
one monolithic way to describe a couple. So when you
say a couple goals, people are asking, we all got
to be that way? Know the fuck you don't? You know?
You know what I'm saying. Nobody has to emulate me
and Kadeen to be a couple goals. So I hate it,
but I do understand why we get that label. I

(01:35:34):
don't think it's pressure because I'm just being myself. Yeah,
if I wasn't truly in love and wasn't truly monogamous
and didn't really value my wife, it be pressure because
I'm like, I got to keep this shit up, but
I really get to wake up in the morning, look
at my wife, love her, love my kids, love my life,
and just live it, you know what I'm saying. So
I don't feel a need to put on. This is

(01:35:56):
who I am. I can talk about my wife and
all day and not feel like putting on because this
is how we live.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
You know. I love that for y'all. I love that
for her because I'm not gonna lie. Like I said,
I'm not a man, but my being a woman in
my experience at dating, you know, y'all both have something
very rare and beautiful. So it's good to see a
healthy relationship but also people that not not admire but appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Yeah, yeah, seeing the appreciation. I think everybody can see
that and be like, okay, it's possible because I think
for us as black women, like she said, getting in
our thirties, you kind of lose hope a little bit.
You lose hope to finding your partner or your forever.
You'd be like, you know what, I'm okay with this,
and I'm okay with that, but you know that gives
us hope. And I think that's okay, not necessarily being

(01:36:43):
couple goals, but just letting us know like, hey, there's
still good men out here. Not everybody's the same, not
all women are the same. So I think that it's
good that we see not necessarily be a couple goals,
but we need to see healthy black relationships. We need
to see men being fathers because to stick theistically, men
are fathers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Yes, especial black households.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Yes, we all have this narrative about debt beat dads,
but the black.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Men are in the house, and statistically, the black men
is the most active father in the household.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
And that's something I didn't even know. I had to
educate myself on that. So I think that it's just
important for us to see that. And even though it's
like social media we like to say is not real life,
but like you said earlier in the episode, people are
looking at social media for their news.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
When I was literally updating myself last night on the
I was on Google, like, okay, electoral college, let me
see what the numbers are. I'm not looking at seeing in,
I'm not looking Fox. I'm just looking at the numbers.
So we use our phones for infacs absolutely, So unfortunately
and fortunately for us, people watch us for okay, educate me,
meet me something that I need to know so I

(01:37:49):
think that even though you don't like the couple goals,
I think it's important that people see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Now. I received that, and first of all, I thank
y'all for forgiving me this platform to speak on it.
But I do I do think that it's unfair for
us to make it seem as if Kadeen and I
were the first people to live like this, right. Truth
of the matter is is that we're just the first
people to pick a phone up. Yeah, and let people say,
you know what I'm saying, like, I am just a

(01:38:14):
reflection of my dad. I'm a reflection of my uncles
and my grandfather. So I can't sit here and make
it seem like listen follow me. Yeah, No, that's not
And every day I wake up thinking like, yo, Devada,
don't fuck this up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
But I feel like it's amazing though, because you're pouring
into like the younger generations that didn't get to grow
up around it the way that you did.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Well, I'm delibered with that. When I was in college
nineteen years old, my sophomore professor, Professor Traciaty, access to
write a mission statement. The mission statement I came up
with each day I worked to build a legacy, not
to be defined by my greatness, but by the masses
I inspire to be greater than myself. I grew up
idolizing Michael Jackson, and it wasn't because he could dance

(01:38:56):
and he could sing. I idolized him because he had
massive of people who followed him. When he talked about
healing the world, when he talked about it doesn't matter
if you're black and white. I watched masses of people
be like, Yeah, if Michael Jackson can do this, I can.
And I just felt like, you know what, we have
a greater responsibility and in fact, the fiduciary responsibility as people,
to pay it forward. You know what I'm saying, Like

(01:39:18):
it's it's not enough to just say I'm gonna do
this for me and my family. No, we should share
so that masses after us can say, you know what,
I want to live like that. I mean, that's what
Jesus lived on all of these religious people. Jesus wasn't
out here saying looks and I'm the son of the
son of God. I'm perfect. Jesus was amongst the rapist,
the sinners, the disciples. He turned water into wine he

(01:39:42):
sat down with the worldliest of the worldleiest and just
showed them a different way. He didn't judge them, He
didn't say I'm perfect, be like me. He just said, hey,
let's let's build right. And that's and I'm not saying
that I'm Jesus because I know how the in and
that can be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
They're gonna flip it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
On the Poor Minds episode he canceled. I knew him
and his wife wasn't perfect like this, and there you know,
they crazy, they crazy.

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Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
In a black business said that, But I mean anybody, smad,
any business is welcome, obviously. Like I said, I love Sisters,
Like I've been watching so much one I am tuned in. Yes,
I love you and Fatima. Then you're on the Teama Yes.
And then you also have a new movie coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
Well it just came out today, come out today xlix.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Yes on Netflix. So I definitely want to talk to
you about Sisters. Like, let's talk about Zach and his
character development. Okay, let's talk he has changed so much.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Yes, Zach was a young man dealing with recidivism when
we first met him, didn't have anything to his name.
He was making money. He was trying to give Danny
money so that he can stay there once in a while.
He wasn't the best boyfriend, and he gave Karen an STD.
He was, you know, not not pretty, not not advanced
when it comes to being an adult. He was behind

(01:42:03):
the totem poland and we learned a lot about his character.
But I enjoyed playing is the role of Zach because
Zach is so many young men. Maybe you're not dealing
with recidivism or deal with being in and out of prison,
but I remember my early twenties being lost and not
knowing who I was or who I was going to be.
So we get a chance to watch Zach go through
a come innovage story. He meets a black woman who

(01:42:24):
is powerful and strong, who's able to give him empathy
and have the strength to go, you know, deal with
him through his trials and tribulations, which I understand for
a lot of black women. Black women say, man, why
we got to deal with struggle love all the time?
You know? But when I watch Sisters, and I watched
the Team, but the one thing I say about struggle
love is that struggle love is Black love. You know,

(01:42:45):
most of us don't come from parents who've had money.
Most of us come from a place where we have
to get it from the ground up. So when I
look as a team and I look at Sisters, I say,
this is our story. Everything isn't happy, everything is in
rainbows and sunshine. It's work.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
I think That's why people really love it though, because
I think people can see the parts of their selves.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Absolutelyships, absolutely, and Fatima's relationship on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I enjoy planes at So you are.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
In the Tyler Perry universe. Yeah, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I gotta ask this because how is y'all filming schedule?
Because you know they'd be saying he filmed movies in
thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
I filmed twenty five episodes in seven days, by Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
But Crystal told us that too when she came on
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Shout out to Crystal, like, girl.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
What's up? Chris? Now, I think people need to understand
the business aspect of it and what Tyler's trying to create. Right,
So I'll give you an example. You're a producer. You
get a budget of thirty million dollars. Thirty million dollars, right, people,
there's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Do you know how far thirty million dollars goes on
the traditional TV set? Not that far? Five episodes? Maybe six? Yeah,
I figured that maybe six. Yeah. What Tyler has figured
out is a way by So you're talking about anywhere
between five to six million in episode. Tyler spends about
seven hundred and fifty thousand in episode. You see what

(01:44:07):
I'm saying. You see what I'm saying. But here's the thing.
You know, with TPS, I'm glad you said that all
of the actors, everybody on there makes more money in
that two weeks than they ever made. You see that,
But sometimes the things don't look the same as someone
who's doing an episode for two weeks. You gotta understand.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
And let me be sitting in the living room for
thirty minutes, it's the whole episode.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Who you telling I'd be in the motherfucker And let
me ask you. You laughing like, I don't know you
ever get a thing? So let me tell you something, right,
I got me. Let me I'm gonna talk about this.
A scene in television is typically one page for one minute. Yeah,
I get my scene sometimes for team and I'm like,
this is fifteen fucking pages. Yeah, that's fifteen minutes me

(01:44:55):
on the same thing. Yeah, But then you realize, I
gotta make this entertaining for the viewers. If you do theater,
sometimes you have a scene in theater that may be
fifteen minutes. If you are a thestpian, you find a
way to make what you do entertaining. If you're not
a theestpion and you're a person that just wants to
be presented in the most beautiful way possible and you

(01:45:17):
don't want to do no work, that fifteen minutes is
going to be fucking hell. And the truth is, sometimes
it happens to people who act with you. They don't
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
The truth is, Sisters is a soap opera.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
It is a soap opera in prime time, which is
what we don't see. Soap operas happen every single day.
Sisters happens every week, so a lot of people and
maybe like, oh, this is slow, this is slow. When
you watch soap operas every day, you're getting something every
single day, so.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
It never finishes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
I get it too. And the thing is I get it.
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
He don't never make us wait too long. It'd be
like three months in between seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Stap in my foot, like shoot twenty five episodes and
a wake.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Betch but.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Drop in a month. I gotta ask you, do you
ever get your scripts though?

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
And you'll be like, no, you're fucking lying, because Sisters
is so chaotic, like it's just like kidding me, Like
when I found out that Karen was pregnant with your
baby and a preacher, man, I was like, and it
only happens to like one percent of people.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
I was like, Tyler Perry being so fucking for.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Real right now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I just knew it wasn't gonna be your baby, true.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I bean, Matt is over there. Matt will say, I'll
be getting the script sometimes and I'll be like, I'm
not saying none of the words just on that page.
Am I lying? I'm not? But and I had a
conversation with Tyler, uh huh, And I said to Tyler,
I said, yo, tea man, like like, come on, man,
what we doing? And this is this is how you
know somebody really knows.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
And Karen been pregnant for like false seasons, but.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
It hasn't been forced. It been like three he's been
six seasons. She was pregnant season three, no on season eight, three, four, five, six,
seven day Crazy season.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
And see I was giving grace sometime.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
I three scenes. Because you gotta understand, each episode is
only the morning portion of that episode. But we watched
this week, it's the morning, next week the afternoon. The
following week is I'm just being honest. That's so when
you watched three weeks of television, You're like this three

(01:47:30):
weeks of a pregnancy. No, that's one day. You've watched
that pregnancy for three weeks. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
And I know she ain't gonna have a baby still
next season.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Now, I'm gonna tell you the genius of Tyler because
I said to them, I was like, yo, man, I
think that we should I think we should not. I
went forty five minutes. I was saying we should do this,
and you know, my generation thinks and we shouldn't. And
he sat there and he listened right, and he said
the value done. I said, yeah, I'm done. He said,
you think I made over three billion dollars up?

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Real bad?

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Sorry it ate me the fuck up bad. I said,
no you didn't. But he's just so listen to me.
I know my audience. I write from my audience. So
then I said, well, what do you mean by your audience?
He says, most people do content thinking. I can expand
over all these different genres. I can expand for these people.

(01:48:22):
I write for the people who support me. And then
when I thought about the people who support him, I'm
thinking the Bible Belt. I'm thinking about black women between
the ages of twenty five to sixty five. And I
said to myself, those women grew up watching what soap
operas general because.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
They loves you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
People have a lot. I'll be complaining about the seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
But I've tuned in. You know what I'm saying. But
they do that. I don't constantly complain about Tyler Perry,
but every time he drops a movie it's number one.
Every time he drops Beauty and Blade, it goes to
number Oh, Beauty finish. I finished Beauty in Black. It
was afternoon for you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
You see what I'm saying, les, I swear to let's
some must clap this, you bro the whole half of
the season, it was afternoon. Now just finished. I'll give
you a contrast, and then you'll you'll be like, oh,
you know what, I get it? Fast and Furious has

(01:49:21):
how many movies and tennis? They complain every time a
new fashion of Furious comes out? Right, and every time
it comes out, what is it in the box office?
Number one? Number one? So who cares about who complains?
You can complain because you don't watch it. Or if
you do watch it, why are you watching every week
and complaining me? You know what I'm saying. It's like

(01:49:43):
people complain about content like Fast and Furious. It's a
lot of them, they watch it, people complain about it.
It's number one. Tyler is a businessman. He's a content creator,
and he understands that this, this film, or this show
was made for a specific group of people. It ain't
made for everybody else who's gonna complain? It's made for them?

(01:50:03):
And those are the people who are typically forgotten. How
many films or projects, For example, Precious Precious was a
movie that would have never ever gotten made if it
wasn't an Oprah Winfrey and Tyler peer Right, it won
an Oscar. Monique won in Oscar. I think Gabaret citebe
won in Oscar. If it wasn't for those people Tyler

(01:50:24):
Perry and Oprah Winfrey and Lee Daniels who knew that
this audience would love this film, it would have never
gotten made. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
I will never be mad at Tyler Perry too, because
I'm not an actress and I'm not in Hollywood, but
I will say we've had a lot of actors and
actresses sitting on the couch and they talk about how
hard it is to get rolls keeps, he keeps the
people paid.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
I'll tell you, oh no, I was just gonna say.
And I feel like, at least for me, I be
complaining because Tyler Perry don't give us the instant gratification,
Like people be wanting instant gratification, Like I don want
to know what the fuck is gonna happen, and he
do not let you know right away. He gonna he gonna,
it's gonna go on for seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
And he be edging. He'd be since we back on that.
I like that, since like edging, and he is a
pro added.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
But the shows are so good you can't stop watching
so good, so it's like you're gonna complain, gonna be like,
come on, like when we gonna know what the climax
is the then you can't stop watching. I'll tell you
he's a pro with it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
That's why he he sayed three billion.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Here's the thing. He won't be considered three billion liquid
for a couple of years, but I can tell you
right now that man is worth more than three billion dollars.
I believe you more than three billion dollars. And another
thing is I've made more money working with Tyler Perry
than I ever made as a professional athlete. But I
made even more money with the information he gave me,
just like fifty cents when it came time to contracts,

(01:51:59):
when it came time to letting people. For example, I'll
tell y'all this is podcasts I went. I met with
Tyler in twenty nineteen after we did Sisters. We talked
and he gave me the story about the ninety ten rule.
When he went to CBS. CBS had offered him his
own television show and they were just like, oh, we
got writers, we got people, and Tyler was like, I

(01:52:20):
don't need that, I'll do it, and they were like, oh,
we really don't do it that way. So we walked away,
went to TBS, went to TBS and got his own
TV show where he got ninety percent and the company
got ten percent because he put his own money up
House of Pains. And then after House of Pain came
Meet the Brown. He was super successful with my podcast.

(01:52:41):
When I was first for Stitcher, they undershot me. They
didn't know the value of the black dollar, and they
didn't know the value of black following right at Stitcher.
They said to me just like, hey, you know, you know,
we'll give you a fifty thousand dollar bonus. You gotta
get fifty thousand dollars downloads in the first six months
and all this other stuff. And I was like, I'm
cool on the bonus and They're like, excuse me because

(01:53:04):
I knew my value. Yeah, And I was like, I
don't want to I want fifty revenue share everything. Hello.
I only noticed because I had been talking to Tyler
and they were just like, they were like, wait a minute,
So we don't got to give you fifty thousand. I said, no,
I want ownership. Dead Ass Podcast is mine. I want
that name, and I also want I want the ability

(01:53:25):
to put it on digital content video and you don't
own it. You know what? They said, Sure, go ahead
the vow. You think you're going to get fifty thousand
downloads first week of Dead Ass Post Podcast. Guess how
many downloads? Nope? IM think yes, I'll sell two hundred
and seventy five thousand. So you know what happened with that.

(01:53:48):
They had to pay me fifty thousand dollars in the
first week because we had surpassed to fifty thousand. Hello,
you had to pay me that every single week now
every single month because we had the revenue share. Yeah,
but I learned that from Tyler because it's like them
underestimate you. Let them underestimate the black value, the black dollar,
black viewership. And that's what they always do to tire.
They always underestimate black viewership. Right, and you know what

(01:54:10):
Viacom does. Viacom comes in here, Tyler will give you
this and see what you do. Number one, number one,
number one, number one, every time, Netflix, number one, number one,
Amazon every number one, number one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
I mean, right there, i'morne, y'all watch this motherfucking show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Like he's whether people like it or not, they still
be talking. I'm a person who I just be feeling
like you know all Public City is always talking about
it every time he drops something. It's number one trending.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Got off topic a little bit, but talk about the
new movie. Yes, yes, yes, Christmas movie Chris talk about
that's me me.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Next Christmas comes out today on Netflix, starring Christina Milion, myself,
and Kobe Saribo. I'm excited about it because and then
Tyler will admit to this too, but it's outside of
the Tyler verse, which means I get to do something
on my own, outside of that universe to show my
value not only Tyler, but to BT two Netflix, to
the people and say, hey, Devala is a draw. So

(01:55:20):
this was an opportunity for me to showcase what I
can do. Christina Milion like she's legend. Come dip it low,
pick it up slow, come.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
On now, like that's the movie that she did with
Nick Cannon. That was her character's name, Perry.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
I'll be like, oh my gosh, she is just so beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Here's here's the thing. She's an even more beautiful person
in person.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
She's good at rom com she is, she's really. She
has a few Netflix rom coms. I watched all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
She's good. She's good. She's good. So to me, this
was like a no brainer. I want to expand myself
as an artist. I want people to see me outside
of the BT Universal and Talent University. Netflix has three
hundred million viewers. Hopefully that can expand what I do.
But it's fun. If you are the spind or not,

(01:56:18):
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because sometimes we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Be giving y'all bad advice. That's the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
Okay, So this is the question.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
You think you would good as you think you give
good advice. I don't. I don't think i'll give good advice.
How I think? Did I give my perspective? How you
can take it or leave it? Figure? If you don't
want to throw that motherfucker out, all right, well be
about to get the veiled perspective get him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
I've been following you guys for about four or five
years now, and I always feel in tune with you
guys weekly and I look forward to Friday's religiously. It's
always so enlightening that I connect with most topics each week.
I'm a leo. I just turned thirty in July. I
have an eight year old daughter, and I just left
the most stereotypical one and a half year jail relationship.

(01:58:27):
Who wasn't her father. I met him through my friend
who I've known since middle school. We always plan to
be on love after lockup. Once he was close to
a date, and now that he.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
You rode into the show, LEXI, what may go ahead, Dre?
I just not see.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Oh my fucking godess see what I jumped on you?

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
I see you? You said like, wait a minute, Oh
y'all about the love?

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
This next port? What y'all about the love? This next word?

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
She said?

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
And now that he is home, he ended things with
me saying I'm not for him. Such a blessing. I
wasn't embarrassed on TV like that, l L. It felt
like I was literally stabbed in the heart and I
seen the future with him. I knew there was something
off by intuition, and I would ask and he would
say he was locked in and he's with me. He
sent me, gives money, seen and talked to him daily

(01:59:18):
and weekly until he didn't need me anymore and he
was close to release. I feel like I dodged a bullet,
and I also feel stupid as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
But I say this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
I say this to say that this week's episode y'all
made me feel like the show must go on and
I need to focus on me way more lo ill
and it's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
I love you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Y'all are like my big sissies for real, and God
does amazing things through you too, So I guess it
wasn't really a question.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
It was that's what girl Na was locked up.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
And let me tell y'all because I say.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
This a lot, lad, you loved that nigga alone?

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Since I glad we helped you come to your sensey
what I mean, but I mean a man he was
already in jail.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
She happy to leave that nigga alone because God said
I he loved first.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
He was like, which was a blessing in disguise. He said,
we locked in, ain't no switching up sight.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
So how do you feel about women dating men in jail?

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
She said they were gonna be on love after lock up?

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
Like, what are you doing to cry?

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Talk about that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
SELEXI a nigga?

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
Don't leave me? Oh my god? Man, so, oh my god.
It was a very chaotic question. I mean, she said,
I was with this dude. As soon as he got out.
He was just like, yeah, he said, man, okay, So

(02:00:58):
oh man, wow. First thing I realized she's thirty. Y'all
going to hell? Person, I'm gonna say y'all going to hell.
Both of y'all going to hell, for you for reading
that question out loud, and for you for laughing and
making them jokes. And I'm trying to be serious trying
to help this young lady. It's the first thing I'm

(02:01:18):
gonna say. She's thirty, she has an eight year old.
The fact that she was dating someone in lock up
and she probably hasn't met tells me that she probably
has some self esteem issues. If you feel you have
to just go jump to a dude that's locked up
that you met through your middle school friend and you
can't meet someone that's out, means you don't value yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
You can't meet the man.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
You can't meet him at that's free. I didn't say that,
let's y'all, don't say that. What you starting trump? I
didn't say that's where, but I meant that. I didn't
say it, but I meant that. LEXI say what I meant,
because I'm not trying to get canceled. I said, I
didn't say that, but I but I said that. All right.

(02:02:00):
If a woman is like, you know, I gotta go
find somebody who's locked up, I don't think her self
esteem is good. I think that you dodge the bullet.
I think that you have to focus on yourself and
also your eight year old child. You don't gotta worry
about chasing men. If you are catch and you out
here in parenting and being the best version of yourself,

(02:02:20):
the right man will come for you. Hopefully he'll be free. Okay,
not see you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Better?

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
You know what, you know what you're right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Let me see but let me but let me say
this to her. Let me say this to hear and
all women out there and even man too. When you
really truly love yourself, I'm gonna say something good. You
never know what's not but for real, because I went
through a time in my life, like in my early

(02:02:55):
thirties where I was just like doing anything, and I say,
this is so somebody, Yeah, you've never done it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
Never. She had never, never, she had me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
She's like, that's beneath me, that is beneath me. If
he don't try, if he on trial or he got out,
I'm with that. But in jail, I not doing that.
So you would data Zach, you would date, you would
date a Zach a x con No. I know plenty
of I I know plenty of good x cons.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Okay, but it depends on like what what murder?

Speaker 6 (02:03:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
No, if you can murder somebody, you might murder me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
So how about what if what if I told you
a stat that you didn't know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:41):
I don't want to know stats about no murder, I
true crime.

Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Over eighty percent of the inmates who are in jail
are in jail because they they they accepted a plea deal,
finds that they didn't come.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
But guess what A hundred percent can't get me. That's
my statistic.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Iry to help you all out in jail.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Like dating somebody in jail, it's crazy me now I
have dated. It's a reformed hoom I used.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
To love me or reformed hood nigga back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
I've changed.

Speaker 3 (02:04:20):
I'm wrong, but I feel like they desire a chance
to I won't get you a chance, but I know
a lot of X con.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
That's what I'm saying. So different people accept different things,
But this is what I was saying. When you truly,
truly love yourself, you will not accept anything beneath that.
When you treat yourself well, when you love yourself, when
you just work on yourself, you won't even be in
a situation where a man can be in jail and
get out and you felt used and abuse.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
I agree with Yeah, so you have to really, Yeah,
you gotta really.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
When you really love yourself and you know the value
and what you bring to the table, you're not gonna
accept no bullshit. And it takes a while to get there.
But whether he left you, or you left him, or
you dodge the bullet, at least you realize that now
and you can do what you need to do to
move forward.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
I agree with that. I agree with that. Let me
preach now, go ahead, let the words.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
I don't got three billion, but I got three dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Talk about it, talk about it. Lets you know what
I'm saying. We ain't even do the bob.

Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
That's all right, we gotta Okay, we ain't gonna do
the bob.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Let him know what? What's THEO?

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
Another week? Okay? Well, what do you were about? What
you've been jamming? This week?

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
I've been listening to changes by Tupac. I was this
government and this is this election that had me, you know,
it's had me stressed. So I've been listening to changes
about to because I'm old LEXI, I swear to God,
I'm gonna fight you when this camera go up. We
don't stop, but we the like. I swear to god,

(02:05:57):
we're almost the same ass. Y'all are how old are
you five?

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
I'm thirty five.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
I'm thirty three. Oh yeah, we ain't that. They're right
there too. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
I talk tupac changes. Did you ever see that video
of Santana's working?

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
It changes?

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Okay, you seen He.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Don't know you've seen this first of all, said saying,
this is my mans a rock with Santana. We did
some stuff together, but I'm not gonna watch a video
with something and it went viral. Why would I watch that?

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
Though I don't know it went.

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
Virals ant I come up on your timeline.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
It ain't gonna not play just because you fwiped up.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
He said that. Yeah, but you said if I watched it,
I can.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
I can.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
I can look up and I can see Santana talking
about some Oh that's just funny. I can look up
and see Santana's working and just swipe that motherfucker. So
I didn't see him. That's a good. I'm not trying
to see him t work. That's just my man. I'll
take your work and I'll just be like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
Not Santana, let us know when I could find your podcast,
what days it drives, where they can find you and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
Well, you can find me at Imdavao on all platforms,
the Dead Ass podcast That's Dead Ass with Kadeen and
the Vale. You can find us there. You can watch
Meet Me Next Christmas today November sixth on Netflix. Make
sure you watch Sisters on BT and Zatima on BT Plus.
I feel like we gotta have you back on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:07:19):
You and your wife.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
We gotta have that would be I think, y'all funny.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
We gotta have her.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
I think y'all can bring the parts of Kadeen out
that people don't know because Kadeena hood chicks, she's for
and she's so used to being like, you know, put together,
and this would be fun for her.

Speaker 2 (02:07:38):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Definitely, we'll definitely come back. We'll definitely go.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
But thank y'all tuning in. Make sure y'all subscribe to
our Patreon. New episodes drop every Monday. Y'all. Check out
Music Beautycollection dot com all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
What else we got.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
Make sure you subscribe to the channel. Subscribe to the channel.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Tour dates are dropping there going on tour, aga on
your money and what's.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Se y'all next week by y'all, y'all, make sure y'all
share the content like subscribe, follow all that good stuff.
And let me say this before we close off, y'all,
there is one Twitter account that is connected to pour minds.
It's p oh, you are underscore in my nds. Y'all
are tagging the wrong poor minds page. If you see

(02:08:26):
at poor minds with no underscore, that is at fake page,
do not follow that page. Okay, they block me Andrea
and the poor Minds page on both. So we only
have one Instagram, one Twitter, one TikTok. It is p
oh you are underscore in my nds, all right, and
we got hell a fake Facebook page. The Facebook page

(02:08:49):
our face. The crazy thing is our Facebook page actually
have the least amount of fileport. So if you're on Facebook,
one that's ours got the least amount of file but
one that's not us it's got like two hundred if
you actually look at the content, because the caption is
like whoever it is, don't speak English because their captains
are like bumba clade. Should men should men pay bill?

(02:09:11):
Should men pay bill?

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Yes? No?

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
Check answer below block block.

Speaker 3 (02:09:18):
Like that's literally what the captions?

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
I'm like, what that DG is? Bumba Claude claud were
ready hobby.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Got a little something something.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
In my bedroom? Oh yeah, so girl, please don't be.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
There's a meeting in my there's.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Amazing in my bedroom.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
So please don't make me away you. I know I'm waiting.
There's a meaning and there's a meeting in my bedroom.
Looking at my roading, girl, I see it's almost time.

Speaker 6 (02:10:13):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, got a little something signing for
my sexy. No no, no, no, I like having you around,
so I gotta put you down. I like I said,

(02:10:34):
run wrong words. I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
So be there. There's amazing in my bedroom. Room never.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
So girl, please don't be. There's meaning in my bedroom.

Speaker 7 (02:11:00):
There's a meaning and moaning my benerom Laura loa, So girl,
don't mean me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:11):
Way my bet.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
There's a meeting in my bed.

Speaker 5 (02:11:19):
Yea step into me casso layer down boom, Mama, Hana,
got a little sun sumthing on my sexy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
My mom, Mama.

Speaker 5 (02:11:37):
Been checking for you since day one yr my mooning
you're my son, love.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
No real, do you chicking? And you know that I'm stilling,
yesty lo.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
So be therebesquare yo, So girl, please don't be lave me.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
Don't be lame.

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
Don't be lame, don't be lame. Ro man. Okay, you
know what the bed Bozlers, the bear bolers, We ain't

(02:12:32):
that ship.

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
And we'll see y'all next week. My Mama, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Mama, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Mama,
Ma Ma.

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
Mom Hey ma Ma.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
Ma Ma, Ma, Ma Ma, Mama, Mama, Ma, my mama.
What you're going to now, What you're going to now? No,
I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know the words.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Don't care. We're in my room, y

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