March 4, 2019 • 50 mins
After last episode's emotionally draining encounter with Kelly Cutrone, Stephanie and Wells are still trying to make sense of it all. As a coping tool, Wells decides to lead a re-enactment of her job interview with Kelly so you find out what really took place.
You do not want to miss what happens when those old memories come to the surface.
But Wells has other tricks up his sleeve… and wants to help repair Stephanie’s love life by setting her up with his most attractive friend from The Bachelor.
And, as we know Steph struggles in the relationship department so we have enlisted the help of a professional. Dr. Hillary Goldsher gives Steph tools she can use to have longer and more meaningful relationships. She gets Steph to open up about her most painful break-up, and why she thinks of a relationship the same as a job.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is I Heart Radios. Pradcast with Stephanie Pratt and
Wells Adams. All right, here's yeah, time for another episode
of the Pratt Cast. Wells Adams here with the star
of the show, Stephanie Pratt. How are you? I'm great?
Please call me Steph. Have we not gone over this?
(00:23):
I know, but I was trying to do like my
like announcer voice, welcome body to the broadcast. We have
stubbornly Pratt at Wells Adams. You'd be like one of
those like really good rodeo cowboys announcers because all falls apart,
which it might at any point. Yes, I'll be a
rodeo clown announcer. I feel like it's been so long.
(00:45):
I know, I've been gone. I've been flying around the country.
I was in New York twice in two weeks. What ya?
How does that make? Well? I flew out there for
like a day to do this audition thing that I'm
not really loud talk about, but talk about it right now.
Who is it for? What's the jaw? I realized that
(01:06):
NDAs mean nothing to you, but I'm terrified lawyers. Uh yeah,
I went out there for like it was like a
chemistry read for a like a hosting gig for a show. Yeah,
so I don't know see how it goes. My god,
I'm going to go on Yelp and just review you.
I'm not sure about how it works. But excellent. Also
(01:26):
Quodoba terrible earlier today Kudoba it's like a Mexican restaurant.
Oh well, I thought that was like your chemistry friend.
I don't live in the valley or is it north
it's winter fell? Um? Okay, so wait, how did the
audition go? I think it went well, but you never
(01:47):
know what those things you know? Um? Is it uncomfortable? No?
I don't. I very rarely feel uncomfortable. Um, but it
was fun. I had a fun time doing it. So
if nothing else, like I got like some arians out
of it. But we'll see what happens. He's so humble.
Yeah right. And then okay, so why did you come back?
I came back so I had to do uh celebrity
(02:09):
family feud with Steve Harvey. Stop stop stop? Wait is
that coming back or is it already back? I mean
like it's still going, but it won't air for like
I think a couple of months. Oh my gosh, you're
gonna have to let us know. Yeah, I did it
with all the Bachelor guys. It was eric Um Bigger,
it was Jason tard Ick, it was Blake Horseman, I
(02:33):
think that's his last name, and then uh and Wills
and so we played them. We played the Victorious secret
it right now? Yeah, oh god, which was So you've
met models, I'm sure in your days, and I feel
I feel bad for models because their entire lives are
(02:55):
predicated around everyone wanting to screw them. So they're like
very standoffish to anyone with the penis, you know, which
makes total sense. But they were all very nice to
me because everyone knows I have a girlfriend, So I
was like zero threat. Wells, And how did Sarah feel?
She was cool with it. She was like, oh, I
should want one of the girls like that. I go
up against um is like one of her good friends.
(03:18):
It was actually at Paris's party that night. Jasmine really tall,
they're all seven million feet tall, beautiful girl. I can't
tell you what happened, but can you tell me who won? No,
I can't tell you who won. But this is my
second appearance on a Cleberty family feud. I gotta say
that the first time our team one and I actually
won Fast Money, and I will say this second time around,
(03:41):
maybe you should have just hung it up after the
first time around, because I mean, like I always looked
like an idiot. But I feel like this is a
new level of ideocracy that you're about to walk into.
When when Steve Harvey and I meet once again, I'm
so excited. I love Steve Harvey. Yeah, to his teeth
are amazing. Everything is mustache is fantastic. You know, it's
(04:02):
you know, it's a funny thing that people don't really
know about family feud. It's on the ticket, it says,
so it says family feud, and then it can parentheses
says but this is not a family show because during
commercial breaks, Steve Harvey will go up and do like
three minutes of like raunchy comedy for the audience. No way. Yeah,
he'll do like butt stuff jokes where you're like, wow,
(04:24):
Steve Harvey really getting in there. But wait, does it
not that? Does it air or not air? Does it
film in l A. Yeah, it films where they do
uh it's a CBS lot. It's like where they also
do U Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, okay, so I think, so,
I don't know, did that? Did that? Yeah? And then
I went back to New York because I did the
(04:45):
Today Show. Oh my god, by the way, Kathie Lee
wants to break off a piece I got, I'm just
gonna say it out loud. At the end of the interview,
she touched me on the arm, and she goes, oh,
you're so cute. Oh my god, I love that. Yeah.
Were they drinking? Yeah, And so I was with It
was like it was called Guys Tell All where they
(05:06):
give relationship advice, which is stupid because no guy should
ever give relationship advice about anything. Yeah, I know, but
a great relationship, that's true. But um, but you know,
it's still in the early stages, so who knows how
it's gonna work out. But um, I mean, I'm sure
it'll work out wonderfully. But I feel like they should have,
you know, someone who's been married for like thirty years
(05:28):
giving relationship advice. But um, they asked you if you
want to drink before the show starts, and this isn't
like nine in the morning, and I'm like yeah, yeah.
I was like, moscow mule please, and all the other
guys are like, you know, uh, soda, water and lime
to make it look like I'm drinking, but I without drinking.
(05:48):
Then I said, uh, I said moscow, m you on?
You all like okay, and then everyone I like started
revolution of alcoholism in the early in the morning. I
felt really good. God. Yeah, So anyways, it was really fun.
And then uh, Sarah was doing fallon Um, which was
cool because they talked about me. He said, I Love
(06:08):
Wells three times, which is pretty exciting. Not once, not twice,
three times. Uh. And then she did good Morning America
or I'm pretty sure that Michael Strahan hit on her,
which is totally understandable because she's beautiful. But Michael Strahan
step off, bro, what do you say? No he didn't,
I mean alright, and then uh, and then her dad
plays Dumbledore in the new Harry Potter on Broadway, so
(06:29):
we had to go see that performance with a bunch
of my friends. So that's why I was in New York.
And then I came back and literally I kept got
back late last night, so I'm I'm dragging ass right now.
So yeah, um, can we just really quick talk about
last episode because I still have pitt stains from the
stress that happened Kelly Cotrone and you straight up like
(06:54):
celebrity deathmatch. Oh can't you remember that show? It was great? Right,
they bring it back. They need to have you guys
fight the Yeah, like you rip off one of her
arms and let's started beating. Um. But that was so
I've done radio. I was telling someone about it. I've
been in radio since I was sixteen years old. I've
interviewed literally everybody. I've been on four reality TV shows
(07:16):
where the thing is is conflict and argument, and I
have never in my life been a part of an
interview or anything where I felt more uncomfortable. Welcome to
the Hills. Yeah, I know it's not a whole new
level of drama, which I am so excited about. So
I thought, as a like like a coping mechanism, we're
(07:36):
not calling her a gun. No, I don't think she again. Um,
I thought it would be fun if we re enacted
the original scene from the Hills where you meet Kelly
Catron and we both play it out. But uh, you
be Kelly and I'll be Staph. I like it. Okay,
(07:59):
So we've printing out the script here. Um, Oh my goodness,
are you ready? Oh? This is the exact scene. Yeah,
so the Hills. I'm done with you. Season five, Ep three,
Stephanie Pratt and Kelly Cotrone interview. Okay, so I'm Kelly.
You're Kelly. Hi. How are you. I've heard a lot
(08:20):
about you. You look very professional today. Okay, good are you? Okay,
I'm really nervous. You seem nervous. I haven't done an
interview in a really long time. This is my resume.
I don't really read resumes, but I will read yours
since you brought it. My final objective in life is
(08:41):
to have a handbag line. So I really wanted to
work here just to see, um, you have like a lot,
you have a lot of like great designers here and
the pr and you guys do really awesome stuff, and
I just want to like see how I can brand
my bags. So you basically want to use my experience,
(09:04):
my clients and they're inside knowledge to ultimately leave here
and go make your own handbag line. No no, no, no,
no no, no, Okay, I mean this is eventually in
like a decade. I mean I'm planning to like work
a lot of different jobs. You should be able to
move quicker than that, honey, I mean, it's good to
(09:26):
have life goals, but I'm running a business, so I'd
like to know more about what your goals are. How
do you know about people's revolution? I'm going into like
a man voice, okay, because that's how you hear in
your head, probably like authority, like an angry troll, like
prison guard. Yeah, prison okay, yeah, yeah, I've heard. Should
(09:47):
I do your voice? Please? Do? I've had a lot
about from venom and but make sure you go in
between the okay. Is that where you go to school? Yes?
Do you know how to use a computer? Yes? Do
you know how to print labels and all of those things? Labels? Yeah?
(10:12):
Like you get a label, put it in the printer
and then set it up on the list and it
comes out of the magical machine and then you is
it stickies? Oh, Stephanie, No, I just have never done it,
but it sounds simple enough. Bonjeur, kiss, getfe We get
(10:37):
to speak more French. Now I'm thinking, do you speak French? Yeah? No,
I'm just terrified. You know. I'm going to tell you,
like straight up, there's a rule that you cannot cry
(10:57):
in this office. And they're going to be million things
that make you cry every day. Whatever it is, no
nervousness or crying in my office. That's good. I want
a strong backbone. So I'm ready for this, are you sure? Yes?
(11:18):
Not by this resume. Not by this resume and seen
there is so much more. I'm I'm happy it ended there.
So was it? What? Because no, we're not talking about this. Well,
I'm because you say like that she said to not
pursue your dreams, but in the script I don't hear
that there's more. That's why I just said there's like, mentally,
(11:42):
how are you after that whole thing? I totally forgot
about it until you brought this lovely script. I'm sorry.
I apologize for just like continuing to like drop up
and bring up just terrible moments in your life. But
I feel like this is what this show is until
the hill start, and then we'll just be bringing up
terrible moments in your life that are happening currently. Oh
(12:03):
my god, So we're going to bring all the horrible
moments from the past. Yes, you're gonna surprise me every week, present,
and future once the show starts. But by the way,
when is this going to happen? I cannot say it
has been pushed back. It has been we are going
to do some more filming. Okay, why some stuff has happening?
(12:24):
More stuff? Yeah, all right, um okay, So like but
mentally are you're fine with it? Though? Today? I am,
because like last episode, not only was it mentally taxing
on you just in terms of like the Kelly Cotrone
interview and conversation, but then we also talked about like
your your family, um, the pressures that the show has
(12:47):
has put on you and your relationships, whether they're whether
they're family relationships or even romantic relationships. So I had
an idea, Oh god, I thought it would be interesting
and probably behoove you two bring on a therapist and
talk about I don't know, like, um, some of the
(13:10):
issues that you've got. What is this not? Is it
the therapist that I have? Did you find her through
my rootex? Is your therapist? Dr Hillary gold Schert No
another one to add to my list? Yes? All right,
well this one I think we're getting this. You don't
have to pay like a copay for or anything. This
one is just um, so can we bring in Dr Hillary?
(13:33):
This is a therapist for my family or just for
like you and your relationships we gotta figure things out,
We gotta break things down. We gotta maybe, I don't know,
pull out some emotions that you are withholding. I'm just
gonna buy waterproof masca. Yeah, that's what this show should be.
(13:53):
Sponsored by Revlon Waterproof Mascara, use promo code steps crying again.
Oh my gosh, we just said, um an interview with
g m A. It's gonna eric closer to the air dates.
We just did like recording and she did a lightning
round and one of the questions so like we could
(14:14):
answer like which one like it wasn't directed anyone specific,
and she asked who cries the most? Everyone goes. Stephanie
was like to the entire Hills cast. Ye oh yeah,
I know you're doing stuff right now. I'm stalling and
my hands are clammy. Yeah, your palms are crying right now. God,
(14:37):
it's different when it's at the fast. You don't know. Well, well,
so let's just see what happens. If it's terrible, we'll
cut it out. Sure, no, we won't. You're sick. We're
gonna bring Dr Hillary Goldscher in in just a second,
but a real quick we got a break. Dr Hillary,
can you come, can you come in here and sit
with us live in the studio. That okay. So, I mean,
(15:00):
like you you heard the kind of lead up into this,
And obviously what makes Stephanie probably amazing reality TV is
that she wears her heart and her sleeve. Um, and
she's fantastically emotional, but she has issues with relationships with
her family or even um in like the dating world.
So I thought we'd bring you on to try to
(15:21):
kind of get to the bottom of like some of
her issues. Yeah, how would you? I mean, having issues
is a is a huge umbrella. I mean, I don't
know what well was talking about? What issues? I'm cool,
totally stable, I'm well, I don't want to talk about
my family um today, Okay, next time? Oh god, okay, Um,
(15:47):
so maybe just like my relationships with friends and dating? Yeah, yeah,
what's your dating history? Didn't like kind of a big question,
but terrible guys we've had. This has been like an
ongoing theme on the show where she chooses guys who um,
don't pay the bill, but then take the tip money
(16:08):
and leave the mill of date. So we got not
the tip money, the change the hun I'm so my
longest relationship was when I was seventeen and it was
eleven months. So I've never made it to that freaking year. Um,
(16:28):
which is really bad to say when you're dating someone.
So in the past five six years, they've all been
about three months. And then I had a seven month
relationship where we lived together. But then and we were
talking about like getting engaged and looking at rings. His
(16:49):
parents had bought a place in l A so we
could be you know, trans atlantic. I live in London,
and um, it was all very serious and I'm I
was on a reality show in London called Maid and
Chelsea and they came out here to film in l
a series for the summer. I showed up to filming
one day. I was at my sister's house earlier giving
(17:10):
my NIE's birthday presents. Showed up filming and my boyfriend,
who was I have a place here, he's living with
me here was standing like on a dock and Marina
del Rey and like, whenever you're near water on reality shows,
it's not a good conversation. Like that's just like rule
of thumb. So in London, like we're always on bridges
when there's a breakup. So he's like on this dock
(17:33):
and I'm like I don't even notice it because we're
so good. Walk over and we're like hey hi or
I am, and you just go straight in. Why are
we pretending? Oh wow? It was like do you have
a script? Like what? And he was like why are
we pretending? Why are we doing this? So I was
(17:55):
on camera like just speechless, complete shocked. I had no
idea where it was coming from. We had gone out
the night before and yeah, his my best friend, was
doing the interior design on the house that his parents
just bought so they could be closer to us. It was.
(18:17):
It was insane and we never spoke again. Yeah, I
had I had my UM agent go and pack up
all my stuff in the house that we lived in
in Fulham and put it all in storage. So I
didn't even get to pack up my own stuff because
I was stuck in l A filming. So when I
(18:38):
did go back to London, I found an apartment through
realtor when I was in l A. So I get
the key, I land, I get the keys to the apartment,
open it, see it, and then straight to big yellow
storage in Fulham to start getting my life and unpacking
my life. So that was intense. UM the other relationships
(19:02):
all about three months, um with horrible people. But I
think that's why they end at three months, because the
honeymoon's over. And then you know, I'm like Cinderella, Cinderella,
wash my clothes, pick me food, but I love it.
And then I'm like, wait a minute, I'm being taken
advantage of. Like he's not going to get his own place.
(19:24):
I never asked him to move in, and like here
he is sitting on the couch while I'm going to work,
and you know, then he'll want to do like a
photo and get some followers on Instagram. So I'm always
very cautious that anyone, I mean, and I really only
meet people on TV, is that they are looking for
(19:46):
that you know, covered chip where it's new couple, you know,
bloah blah blah. They want that kind of um, not fame,
but they just want to be in the press were
they asked to come on Made in Chills. See, yeah,
I mean, you you certainly have a special kind of
challenge by being someone in the public life, for sure.
(20:06):
I mean you're never quite sure when you first never
known someone whether or not their intentions are good. So
it's sort of like all you can do is know
your own right, So I'm curious what it's like how
you normally show up in the world of intimacy. You know, what,
what are your patterns and ways of being when you
start getting close to someone. I mean, I think I'm
(20:29):
a delight. I have got a career, I make my
own money, I'm great with animals and kids, and I'm
definitely the girlfriend that you know it is cooking and
cleaning and just waiting on you know, the king. Yeah, Like,
I'm very much like my mom and dad, or my
mom they've been married for thirty years, met on a
(20:51):
blind date, no, like forty years by now, but um,
they just start to resent me because I work more
than them, And for the last few years I've chosen
work over everyone, over my family, any relationship, my friends.
So once you start seeing sort of signs that the
(21:12):
person you've chosen isn't being fully supportive of who you
are and where your life is head and how you're
moving through the world, what do you do. I'm God,
I get really annoyed and every little thing they do
just pisces me off. Like you know, if they get
(21:32):
out of the shower, the towels on the sofa. I'm
just like what I'm doing? M M. And are you
able to kind of articulate I'm needing this as sort
of a fundamental aspect of this relationship is not happening
or are you more focusing on like the towel and
the smaller things. Um? Yeah, I don't voice it. I
(21:54):
just put it in this little jar until I explode.
Of course, do you think that you use that because
we've talked about this before where you say that like
the perfect time length for relationship is like three months.
Do you think that you that you look for those
things around that three month period to start self destructing
(22:16):
the relationship. I mean, you know, like when it's you,
you can't really tell. But I want to say, after
you know, two and a half months, like the honeymoon
stage is over, and like you know, towels on sofas.
I mean, I'm not like anal like that, but that
was just like an example. I think, Um, I start
(22:38):
to see who that person is, Like, Okay, they don't work,
they're always on their sofa. I know what this is
going to turn into. It's going to turn into my ax.
How he was always you know, so annoyed that I'd
be working all the time, and you know that just
starts fights and I don't. I don't need that. So
it's so I think it's them. I want to say
(22:59):
it's them, like I'm starting to see their true colors.
It's never about me. Well, well, it's definitely notable. I
would not have earned my credentials if I don't ask
you why. Three months seems to be the perfect amount
of time for a relationship. Yeah, but I go in
like fast and heavy. Yeah, like I love a vacation
(23:20):
right away. Have you ever been in love? Yes? That
was that seventeen year old relationship. Yes. I wonder if
there's a party of view that is ultimately afraid of
kind of true intimacy where once no, I'm an aries
And what does that mean to youst what makes you
(23:44):
do you think find ways and reasons to back out
my work schedule and my travel schedule? Okay? Yeah, I
mean my girlfriend when I was just in London, she
was like, okay, stuff, like, so what's your deal? You
really need to start dating? Because I never look But
I also like, don't go out, so it would be
(24:08):
like a delivery man like for a chance meeting and
chemistry sparks because I just have to work. I just
want to be home, watch friends, be with my dog.
I'm not like out looking in you know, the bar
or whatever. But I also it's really weird because as
well as knows, I love attention, but I only like
it when I want it. So when I walked down
(24:30):
the street, I'm always looking down. I never wear anything scandalous.
I don't wear makeup, and I'm usually in a beanie
or baseball cap, like I like to be very and
not because like I think I'm famous or anything like that.
I just I'm super low key and I don't want
men's attention, and I'm like, oh stop. But obviously when
(24:51):
I do want attention, I'm like, you know, breaking out
the selfies. Does it feel like something you want at
this point in your life, a serious relationship? So I
thought it was so when my girlfriend was like, you
need to start dating, and I do. I'm going to
be thirty three in April, and it's you know, it's
been like years since I've dated, years since I've had
(25:14):
a three month or but I just went on a
blind day two weeks ago and then I had it
was great, and then I met him on Riah, and
then I saw him again during the day, but I
was I'm leaving, I'm going out of town tomorrow and
(25:36):
then I'm filming, and then i go back to London
in June, and then I'm in Greece and then I'm
in the Maldives. Like I just already have all these
travel plants and like there's no room for anyone else.
So it was like the weirdest feeling when I was
like standing, not standing sitting with him, Like I was
just like, this is like I'm looking at prison. Mm hmm,
(26:01):
what do you mean like this? If I pursue this,
it's going to destroy all my all my stuff. There's
some way in which you feel sort of engulfed by relationships. Ultimately, Well,
it's just one of those things like I wouldn't want
to date someone if they're always going out of town
and they put work before me and you know, and yeah,
(26:26):
well do you do a long distance relationship? Yeah? I
did for a while. Yeah, I say I could do those.
That sounds lovely actually, as longest relationships are are nice
for people that are super busy because then you just
you carve out the time that you're going to spend
with them um before and it works. But I will
say this so obviously, like my expertise in the dating
(26:47):
world comes from The Bachelor Harrison. Yes, Curse Harrison is
my guru. But everyone will go on the show and
say I'm ready for love, I'm ready to settle down,
and that's the right thing to say, but it's not.
It's rarely the truth, especially with a lot of these
people who are beautiful, under thirty years old and you know,
(27:11):
trying to start a career and whatever type of entertainment. Um.
I think that there for me, especially like because I
I went through like it was nice to be on
a TV show, it was nice to be recognized if
I went to a bar or something. It was easy
for me to get dates and stuff, which I think
it probably is easy for you're beautiful, which is would
be easy for you to get dates. Um I I
(27:36):
just okay, well they're probably intimidated by you. But there
there came a time in my life where I was like,
I I want to have a relationship. Now there's like
this this big hole in my life that I that
I that I'm ready now to fill this thing. And
I think that you can't truly allow yourself to fall
in love until you're like, this is what I really
(27:57):
want and it just sounds like that that's this is
something that you really really want, Like the whole Maldives thing. Dude,
you could have a relationship with someone. I still travel hell,
they could travel with you, and you can face time
with them and phone sex with them, and like it's
very doable. It feels like a job. That is not
a good sign. I feel well. Yeah, I mean that's
(28:18):
I think what we're wells and I are now teeming
up to suss out, which is like, is it like
a logistical thing that is doable, you know, where there's
just sort of practical solutions, or is it really a
time in your life like it's just not what I
want right now, or are there like a set of
psychological dynamics that have you kind of shut down and these,
(28:40):
you know, sort of practicalities and logistics are part of
what you use to to sort of ward off the
possibility of intimacy. I don't really need the last sounded
completely right, Yeah, I mean yeah, well, I mean what
you said at the beginning not and I certainly don't
want to push you in an area that's I want
to learn. That's for it to know. I found his
(29:01):
relationships ship expert. I mean, how people move through their
romance romantic romantic called their um intimate relationships is often
a reflection of the dynamics that exists in their family
of origin. You know. And you said at the beginning
to want to talk about your family, and I don't
want to push you on that, but I'm sure it's
related whatever stuff. I don't even think. So. My brother
(29:23):
has been with his wife, he's one woman man for
like eleven years, maybe twelve. My mom, dad, you know,
like forty years. So I also have these standards that
are super high. And actually, well, I don't think i've
ever told you this, but years ago we're watching The Bachelor.
Years ago, maybe ten years ago, my mom, dad and
(29:45):
I was at their house and my dad was like, Stephanie,
would you ever go on the show? And I was like,
uh no, unless I was the bachelorette, I would love that,
and he was like, okay, good good. I just never
want you to be one of those girls that you
know has to fight for the guy that you like,
(30:06):
because you know you'll find the right guy. But I
don't even want you to like I'd preferred if you
never got married and stay single. My mom's like, scap,
but I was like, thank you, dad. So it's kind
of like the opposite of all my friends where they're like,
you're thirty, why aren't you married? My dad is like
promoting me to just die alone. Well, I'm sure that
(30:30):
even impacts. Do you think about choosing someone that they
have to be perfect and live up to the standard.
My mom always says, you're never going to meet someone
like your dad, And I always say when I'm interviewed,
I just want literally someone like my dad. He's so smart,
but like mainly thoughtful and generous. He's just he's such
(30:50):
anna when one woman guy. Um. But there's just no
one out there like him. And so then I'm like, okay,
well there's no one out there. I don't have time
to like be trying to date. And also I know
how it ends up. What makes you say that. I mean,
when you're dating someone for three months, you're able to
(31:12):
date a lot of people that year, and it all
ends up the same. They present me because I put
work first, and you know, our conversations are usually about
like what happened up filming blah, blah blah, or they
use me for money or for getting in magazines. So
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I just know, like there's not they're going to get
something out of me, Like when I am seeing someone,
they're using me no matter what. You know what it
sounds like though, it sounds like you're not choosing the
type of person. It seems like you continue to choose
people that will end up inevitably do those things to you,
(32:00):
Like it sounds like you need to find a guy
who is independently successful, um that doesn't give a crap
about Instagram or Instagram, you know, but you keep on,
you keep on running into these kind of like, for
lack of better term, losers. I think we need to
find you like a winner. They're all married, No, okay,
(32:23):
so I'm going to wait for the divorcee round. Yeah,
early in there, like early my early forties. Well, I
think if there's this sort of habitual pattern of you
intersecting with or choosing people that have this tendency to
take advantage of you or use you, and it sort
(32:46):
of feels like you you already know the end of
the story, you already know the last chapter. They're not
going to be like your dad totally you know there's
a party that's sort of sitting out of the game anyway,
Like you've kind of benched yourself, you know, you're just
kind of bowing through the motions. Is that a security
blanket though, like like knowing that failure is inevitable, that
you can't be really hurt because you never emotionally let
(33:07):
yourself to be hurt by someone you care about. But well,
you know how open and honest I am with my feelings,
Like I don't think I protect myself from being hurt
because I when I'm hurt, like, it's not like I
don't communicate. And but I do think I do think
you do that, be Do I do think you do
that because you're you're not dating people that you can
(33:31):
get past a third month with. So that's your wall
that you're putting up for your those emotional and emotional barrier.
In a way, it's easier to be open and vulnerable
with people who aren't in the caliber of men that
you should be dating. Do you know what I mean?
There's like a comfort in it because you sort of
know it's not going to go anywhere. You sort of
know your emotional needs aren't going to get Matt so
(33:51):
being open and honest, which is, by the way, an
incredible quality, which will serve you well with the right person,
you know, but it it doesn't kind of help because
you're choosing people that can't respond to your needs. You know,
they can't take it in. I'm just choosing what's available. Okay,
I'm going to set you up with somebody. Okay, I'm
gonna say you with somebody I think is in the
(34:13):
caliber of your badass. Wait, are you friends with him?
Because I could destroy this friendship. No, yes, we're really
good friends. So okay he was. He was on the
Bachelrette with me. Okay, does he have a job? What
was his title? He's uh, he is in finance. Okay, normal.
(34:35):
He lives in New York, he works in finance. He's
independently wealthy. He's very successful. He doesn't really care about
the TV thing he did. He went on it. I mean,
it was still a fun adventure for him, but he like,
he's not like selling ads on Instagram to like make
his living, Like he goes and works at a bank
(34:55):
every day. Like right now, my quickest thought was, Okay,
he went on TV show. Sure he's not doing that. Anymore.
But if he gets it's on an opportunity, it's probably
like bad luck. If he has the bad luck in
dating me, he's gonna want to jump into that entertainment
stuff again. I know it. I know it. If he's
already been on TV, he's gonna reap the benefits of
(35:19):
dating me. But you're also on TV. Yeah, you know, like,
but I'm not. I'm not a guy Like they're getting sacks.
They're getting on TV. They're getting their laundry done, they're
getting you know, cooked meals, they're getting everything. What do
I get a job to make sure they feel needed?
(35:42):
Because my work is my priority. So if I fly
out my friend Derek on my Heart radio money, if
I get someone from my heart to fly him out,
will you go on a date with him? Can I
see a photo? Yes? Do you know who he looks like?
Do you ever to the office, Dwight? No, he doesn't
(36:03):
look like white no service down here. He looks like
Jim Helper. He looks like John Krasinski. Do you think
this is a good idea? And this is a bad idea?
You know you'll be there? Maybe I should aie. Yeah,
I was going to say, I think it's a good
(36:23):
idea for you to practice trusting your ability to decide
if someone's appropriate. Really, a lot of the people you're
gonna meet are going to be in the business. It
just is. I mean, unless you withdraw completely for like
five years or something. It's just like I wish they had,
like be the cameraman. You know, I get it, I
get it. You've been, don't, you know, go on a
(36:44):
show and pictures being passed over. So we'll pause for
her response. No, no, no, what's wrong with him? I'm
not gonna say it on air. You have still it's
not my type? What is it? Okay? Hold on. So
this is a very interesting thing that I remember learning
(37:05):
about myself when I was on the show is that
there were a bunch of people that weren't my type.
And I was watching people dating people that weren't their
types and then falling in love because here's the deal,
your type has always been a failure. But I have
to be attracted to them. I want to, like, it's
not a job if like I want to come home
(37:26):
and jump on them. You know, I'm asking, well, is
to get another picture I know well, which I don't
think is a bad premise even if you don't feel
initially attracted to him, and we're getting another picture just
to make sure. But I will go on a second
third day with someone just because my mom on her
(37:48):
blind date, she said that my dad didn't talk once
and then she saw me guy, even though she was like,
what a freak, And he like was just so nervous
that first date, and you know, he opened up more.
There was so like I always give people a second chance,
unless they're rude to a waiter. Then I'm like, you suck. Yeah, Well,
because there's something that's making you continue to say yes
(38:11):
two guys that end up taking advantage of you or
using you, And so it might be a good idea
to go out with someone who you sort of know
you know, well, is that that isn't who this person is. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like every guy that well, this
is so not my type. This is like I don't
know what your type is. I told you Garrett Headland, Okay,
well I don't have his number in my phone. Um,
(38:34):
but here's the thing. Every every story that I've heard
about guys that haven't worked out with you, there's a
common denominator and the common nominator is there they're unsuccessful? Yes, Okay,
So I went and found my most successful friend. He
has a master's degree, he's in finance, he owns like
(38:56):
three houses. Really smart guy, really good looking dude. And
I just think that you should, you guy, should least
go on a date, just just see what happens. I
will never turn down a date. That sounded desperate. I
had to do like a long list of reasons why
(39:18):
you should go on a date with him for you
to accept it. Huh, you said, I will never turn
onto date, even though initially you're like, no, he's not
my type of Okay, all right, well we're gonna fly
out here. You guys are going to go on a date.
Are you going to be on it? No? But then
we're going to bring him in no, oh my god,
(39:38):
and we're going to talk about it with him. Yeah.
I want. I want to see what's going on. And
and uh dr Hillary will be there too, thank god.
Oh my god. See, I actually think we should look
at it not so much like if you happen to
connect and hit off grade, but more of an exercise
of like, I'm sure you've had this before, but at
(39:59):
this point in your It's like, what's it like to
be treated well by someone, to be respected and taken
out and with someone who doesn't have another agenda? It
sounds like you know that to be true? Wells, and
just see what that feels like. Just have that experience. Yeah,
it's so hard because I'm just so like happy with myself,
Like I I can go weeks without talking to someone
(40:20):
like and I like that. I you know, I talked
to my dog. But yeah, that's an unfulfilled life. But
is it? Yes, because look at the look at the
happiness that your brother and his wife have, or your
dad and your mom have. Trust me, When I go
to my parents house and I'm in the fridge, all
of the photos on the fridge are of their grandchildren.
And I realized the other day. I was like, you
(40:43):
know what, that's how you repay your parents for everything
they've done. You repay them with grandchildren. And I actually
got pretty like deep in my thoughts and went on
a little rabbit hole and got really emotional, and I
was just like, my parents have done so much. The
fridges covered with you know, for grandchildren, and I've got
(41:06):
like a photo of me on a horse. But I
just was like, like, I feel really bad, Like my
parents are probably like not my dad. My mom's probably
like okay, well she's my you know, I'm not going
to have any grandchildren with her. Yeah, you know this
is what stands out to me, and I kind of
keep circling back to it. But you keep changing people
(41:27):
who have this similar tendency, right that you found out
our taking advantage of you in some way. I want
something from you. And the question to me isn't that
like are you doing something to like draw people like
that to you? But the question is when they're in
your sphere, why are you letting them stay even for
three months? You know that you've had so many stints
of three months with people like that, even after the
(41:50):
but it starts off good. But at some point before
three months now I'm like way more. Yeah, um, I
don't know what the word is, but like I because
it's happened so many times, I'm like way more like
privy to like noticing it. But before like two years ago,
(42:13):
three months were fine because you know, it wasn't until
it happened for like the fifth time and I was like, okay,
well they're all using me. But until then, like the
three months was fine because I was naiven, gullible. Yeah,
And I think that's that's the part we need to
kind of shore up within you. You know that that
I mean sort of a sweetness, but that you know,
(42:34):
naivete and gullibility that makes probably part of you vulnerable
and appealing and charismatic and all those wonderful things about you.
But that you want to kind of shore up a
little bit so that people who don't get through your filter,
do you know what I mean? For even like date
number two, you know, and that's someone like Derek. And
I'm not saying this is like the guy if you
want on a Derek, but that right, that someone who
has like a resume at least, or like someone who
(42:56):
can vouch on their behalf. Um, that these qualities that
are are so important to you exist like gets through
you know what I mean? That too much of your
time and days have been spent with people like that
in your romantic life, and that like, to me, that's
more than like will you get married and how grandchildren?
I'm sure you will. I mean I don't know five
years or ten years or two years, you will. I
(43:16):
just decided this summer that I was open having kids,
like I'm a real late bloomer waiting for my boobs growing. Well,
some of this is evolving for you, though, and that's okay.
I mean that's kind of your personal journey if like
there's a part of you that hasn't wanted like or
hasn't either been ready for it, hasn't wanted or hasn't known,
or all those things intersecting to make it very messy
(43:37):
and confusing that you're just evolving into like yes, I'm
a woman who wants these things. Then I get super paranoid,
like and that's why I'm like, oh my god, I
should look on Rya or whatever, because I'm so set
in my ways. I've always lived by myself, and I like,
you know, specific things like that I'm scared that I'm
(43:58):
going to get crazier and crazier and crazier, just you know,
when like you can't share with someone, like you can't
share a space. That I'm so set in my ways,
and that is like probably what I think about the most,
and like when I yeah, I'm really worried that the
older I get, the harder I'm gonna make it all myself.
(44:19):
Not on purpose, but just being so used to being
alone and doing everything for myself. I mean, like I
have a toolkit pint in my own walls, you know,
like I don't need a guy are I think what
you're saying is real. I think it is by definition
true that as you get older, and not that you're old,
but as you get older, that you're more set in
(44:41):
your ways and it is harder to adjust a living someone.
I think it's a real thing, and you might struggle
and you might mess up in that process, but growing
together with someone and kind of moving through those challenges
as part of what builds intimacy and like family. So
do you think I should date someone my age or
older or younger? And I don't know if I have
an answer. I just think that you should date someone
(45:02):
who's evolved and has a life that's full and can
offer something to you. You know that is that often
someone who's like around your age or older shore but
is it sometimes not? Yeah? You know, I think it's
more about finding someone who's like on their own sort
of established emotionally, mentally, financially, professionally. I mean, it sounds
(45:26):
like this guy is starting off horribly, but now I've
want someone with their own life, their own career, their
own money, and then I have that on my own
and then we have a life. To insist on it.
Never date someone again who doesn't have that. I would
just make that a rule for yourself. Insist on it.
You deserve it. Anyways, in fear of you turning into
(45:50):
a crazy cat lady, we're setting you up on a date,
all right, and I want to get to the bottom
of this whole thing. And I think it'll be interesting
for you to go on a date with Derek, who,
by the way, I vouched for, super solid dude, one
of the nicest guys I've ever met. He was that friendship. Well,
I don't trust me. I don't think I don't think
anything's gonna happen with that, But I want Derek now
(46:12):
he's going out with stuff. Yes, I was, I was,
I was. I was just in New York. I was
with him and I was talking you up and he
was really excited about it. What did he think of
Stephanie's picture, Well, Stephanie's definitely he is beautiful, So he
was like, yeah, cool, definitely, totally. Uh. He was excited
(46:33):
about it. So it made me sad to hear you're like, no,
he's not my type. Also, like Derek is like a
one of like the prettiest men I've ever met in life,
So that was throwing me for a curveball. But regard,
I hope he's not listening to this. I'm not gonna
allow him to listen to this at all, um, But
I do think that you should go on this date
(46:53):
no matter what happens. Listen. I don't think you guys
are gonna get married, but I do think that you
have constantly dated guys that we're not of your caliber,
and I do think this guy is one of those.
So I want you guys to go on a date.
And then I want you guys to both come back
here and I want to bring Dr Hillary Goldscher back
and I want us to break it down and see
if we can really get to the root of this
(47:14):
whole thing. Okay, last thing, I just want you to
like have the heads up. I and like first dates.
I love them. So I went on one on the
hills and it's blind day and like after it that
produces like, oh my god, this is amazing, Like you
(47:35):
guys really hit it off. You were like bam bam bam,
and smiling and laughing, and I was like, oh no,
I don't want to see him again, and they're like
what I was like, I just had a fun dinner
with him, so I love I have a lot of fun.
Like that's the problem, Like you'll you'll never be able
to tell if I'm not into it, because I can
(47:56):
have fun with like a stone, you know, I find
fun everywhere I got. Well, it'll be That's good to know.
It'll be interesting if that's how it goes. That if
you have this like sort of energetic date but we
find out behind the scenes you weren't feeling you know,
chemistry're attracted, that we can at least break that down,
(48:17):
you know, why not? And what does that mean in
terms of how you evaluate who's appropriate for like a
second date or something. But that's good to know that
we may see that or we may hear that that's
how it went regardless, hopefully see I'd really like you
to be there, just like at another table. You know,
we're not doing the Hills episode where there's like producers,
(48:37):
a gam people around, just normal date you guys, I
need cameras. It's weird without cameras. Um Dr Hilary Gouldcher,
thank you so much for something but my pleasure. I'm
excited to come back and here the next phase of
this process. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Okay, so
we broke it down for you and then so the
next episode is really the therapy. I can't wait. Yeah,
(49:03):
we're going to get some answers here. Okay, all right,
we're running out of time. So okay, thank you so
much for hopefully saving my life, for having no pressure,
real quick in and out or shake shack on three
one two three, shake shock from my birthday. There's one
in London, like in Covent Garden. Really they have in London, Yes,
(49:25):
and now they've got like four over there like it
was before it even came to l A shake shock
is my life. Cheeseburgers are my number one favorite food. Really,
there's nothing better than chick shock. I swear all my life.
You guys all natural angus beef burgers. I didn't even
know that. Loving me more, we've got them outside of
the studio or but what rush ah if that's a joke. No,
(49:49):
I'm not how terrible to the person you think I am. No,
it's just you know, the hills. You never know it's
really there's a really shake shock, if there is, I
did go right now, I've got to go to the
bathroom wells and that's that where you're going right now. Okay,
maybe we should end. Yeah, let's just eat some shake shock.
Jake shock dot com to find one near you. Apparently
(50:11):
one in London, three in London. Yep, dang, you want
to do the outro? Don't we do it together? Now? Yeah?
Well okay, ready, yeah, hell yeah, shows over yeah. Follow
Pratt cast on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen
to podcasts.
This is I Heart Radios. Pradcast with Stephanie Pratt and
Wells Adams. All right, here's yeah, time for another episode
of the Pratt Cast. Wells Adams here with the star
of the show, Stephanie Pratt. How are you? I'm great?
Please call me Steph. Have we not gone over this?
(00:23):
I know, but I was trying to do like my
like announcer voice, welcome body to the broadcast. We have
stubbornly Pratt at Wells Adams. You'd be like one of
those like really good rodeo cowboys announcers because all falls apart,
which it might at any point. Yes, I'll be a
rodeo clown announcer. I feel like it's been so long.
(00:45):
I know, I've been gone. I've been flying around the country.
I was in New York twice in two weeks. What ya?
How does that make? Well? I flew out there for
like a day to do this audition thing that I'm
not really loud talk about, but talk about it right now.
Who is it for? What's the jaw? I realized that
(01:06):
NDAs mean nothing to you, but I'm terrified lawyers. Uh yeah,
I went out there for like it was like a
chemistry read for a like a hosting gig for a show. Yeah,
so I don't know see how it goes. My god,
I'm going to go on Yelp and just review you.
I'm not sure about how it works. But excellent. Also
(01:26):
Quodoba terrible earlier today Kudoba it's like a Mexican restaurant.
Oh well, I thought that was like your chemistry friend.
I don't live in the valley or is it north
it's winter fell? Um? Okay, so wait, how did the
audition go? I think it went well, but you never
(01:47):
know what those things you know? Um? Is it uncomfortable? No?
I don't. I very rarely feel uncomfortable. Um, but it
was fun. I had a fun time doing it. So
if nothing else, like I got like some arians out
of it. But we'll see what happens. He's so humble.
Yeah right. And then okay, so why did you come back?
I came back so I had to do uh celebrity
(02:09):
family feud with Steve Harvey. Stop stop stop? Wait is
that coming back or is it already back? I mean
like it's still going, but it won't air for like
I think a couple of months. Oh my gosh, you're
gonna have to let us know. Yeah, I did it
with all the Bachelor guys. It was eric Um Bigger,
it was Jason tard Ick, it was Blake Horseman, I
(02:33):
think that's his last name, and then uh and Wills
and so we played them. We played the Victorious secret
it right now? Yeah, oh god, which was So you've
met models, I'm sure in your days, and I feel
I feel bad for models because their entire lives are
(02:55):
predicated around everyone wanting to screw them. So they're like
very standoffish to anyone with the penis, you know, which
makes total sense. But they were all very nice to
me because everyone knows I have a girlfriend, So I
was like zero threat. Wells, And how did Sarah feel?
She was cool with it. She was like, oh, I
should want one of the girls like that. I go
up against um is like one of her good friends.
(03:18):
It was actually at Paris's party that night. Jasmine really tall,
they're all seven million feet tall, beautiful girl. I can't
tell you what happened, but can you tell me who won? No,
I can't tell you who won. But this is my
second appearance on a Cleberty family feud. I gotta say
that the first time our team one and I actually
won Fast Money, and I will say this second time around,
(03:41):
maybe you should have just hung it up after the
first time around, because I mean, like I always looked
like an idiot. But I feel like this is a
new level of ideocracy that you're about to walk into.
When when Steve Harvey and I meet once again, I'm
so excited. I love Steve Harvey. Yeah, to his teeth
are amazing. Everything is mustache is fantastic. You know, it's
(04:02):
you know, it's a funny thing that people don't really
know about family feud. It's on the ticket, it says,
so it says family feud, and then it can parentheses
says but this is not a family show because during
commercial breaks, Steve Harvey will go up and do like
three minutes of like raunchy comedy for the audience. No way. Yeah,
he'll do like butt stuff jokes where you're like, wow,
(04:24):
Steve Harvey really getting in there. But wait, does it
not that? Does it air or not air? Does it
film in l A. Yeah, it films where they do
uh it's a CBS lot. It's like where they also
do U Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, okay, so I think, so,
I don't know, did that? Did that? Yeah? And then
I went back to New York because I did the
(04:45):
Today Show. Oh my god, by the way, Kathie Lee
wants to break off a piece I got, I'm just
gonna say it out loud. At the end of the interview,
she touched me on the arm, and she goes, oh,
you're so cute. Oh my god, I love that. Yeah.
Were they drinking? Yeah, And so I was with It
was like it was called Guys Tell All where they
(05:06):
give relationship advice, which is stupid because no guy should
ever give relationship advice about anything. Yeah, I know, but
a great relationship, that's true. But um, but you know,
it's still in the early stages, so who knows how
it's gonna work out. But um, I mean, I'm sure
it'll work out wonderfully. But I feel like they should have,
you know, someone who's been married for like thirty years
(05:28):
giving relationship advice. But um, they asked you if you
want to drink before the show starts, and this isn't
like nine in the morning, and I'm like yeah, yeah.
I was like, moscow mule please, and all the other
guys are like, you know, uh, soda, water and lime
to make it look like I'm drinking, but I without drinking.
(05:48):
Then I said, uh, I said moscow, m you on?
You all like okay, and then everyone I like started
revolution of alcoholism in the early in the morning. I
felt really good. God. Yeah, So anyways, it was really fun.
And then uh, Sarah was doing fallon Um, which was
cool because they talked about me. He said, I Love
(06:08):
Wells three times, which is pretty exciting. Not once, not twice,
three times. Uh. And then she did good Morning America
or I'm pretty sure that Michael Strahan hit on her,
which is totally understandable because she's beautiful. But Michael Strahan
step off, bro, what do you say? No he didn't,
I mean alright, and then uh, and then her dad
plays Dumbledore in the new Harry Potter on Broadway, so
(06:29):
we had to go see that performance with a bunch
of my friends. So that's why I was in New York.
And then I came back and literally I kept got
back late last night, so I'm I'm dragging ass right now.
So yeah, um, can we just really quick talk about
last episode because I still have pitt stains from the
stress that happened Kelly Cotrone and you straight up like
(06:54):
celebrity deathmatch. Oh can't you remember that show? It was great? Right,
they bring it back. They need to have you guys
fight the Yeah, like you rip off one of her
arms and let's started beating. Um. But that was so
I've done radio. I was telling someone about it. I've
been in radio since I was sixteen years old. I've
interviewed literally everybody. I've been on four reality TV shows
(07:16):
where the thing is is conflict and argument, and I
have never in my life been a part of an
interview or anything where I felt more uncomfortable. Welcome to
the Hills. Yeah, I know it's not a whole new
level of drama, which I am so excited about. So
I thought, as a like like a coping mechanism, we're
(07:36):
not calling her a gun. No, I don't think she again. Um,
I thought it would be fun if we re enacted
the original scene from the Hills where you meet Kelly
Catron and we both play it out. But uh, you
be Kelly and I'll be Staph. I like it. Okay,
(07:59):
So we've printing out the script here. Um, Oh my goodness,
are you ready? Oh? This is the exact scene. Yeah,
so the Hills. I'm done with you. Season five, Ep three,
Stephanie Pratt and Kelly Cotrone interview. Okay, so I'm Kelly.
You're Kelly. Hi. How are you. I've heard a lot
(08:20):
about you. You look very professional today. Okay, good are you? Okay,
I'm really nervous. You seem nervous. I haven't done an
interview in a really long time. This is my resume.
I don't really read resumes, but I will read yours
since you brought it. My final objective in life is
(08:41):
to have a handbag line. So I really wanted to
work here just to see, um, you have like a lot,
you have a lot of like great designers here and
the pr and you guys do really awesome stuff, and
I just want to like see how I can brand
my bags. So you basically want to use my experience,
(09:04):
my clients and they're inside knowledge to ultimately leave here
and go make your own handbag line. No no, no, no,
no no, no, Okay, I mean this is eventually in
like a decade. I mean I'm planning to like work
a lot of different jobs. You should be able to
move quicker than that, honey, I mean, it's good to
(09:26):
have life goals, but I'm running a business, so I'd
like to know more about what your goals are. How
do you know about people's revolution? I'm going into like
a man voice, okay, because that's how you hear in
your head, probably like authority, like an angry troll, like
prison guard. Yeah, prison okay, yeah, yeah, I've heard. Should
(09:47):
I do your voice? Please? Do? I've had a lot
about from venom and but make sure you go in
between the okay. Is that where you go to school? Yes?
Do you know how to use a computer? Yes? Do
you know how to print labels and all of those things? Labels? Yeah?
(10:12):
Like you get a label, put it in the printer
and then set it up on the list and it
comes out of the magical machine and then you is
it stickies? Oh, Stephanie, No, I just have never done it,
but it sounds simple enough. Bonjeur, kiss, getfe We get
(10:37):
to speak more French. Now I'm thinking, do you speak French? Yeah? No,
I'm just terrified. You know. I'm going to tell you,
like straight up, there's a rule that you cannot cry
(10:57):
in this office. And they're going to be million things
that make you cry every day. Whatever it is, no
nervousness or crying in my office. That's good. I want
a strong backbone. So I'm ready for this, are you sure? Yes?
(11:18):
Not by this resume. Not by this resume and seen
there is so much more. I'm I'm happy it ended there.
So was it? What? Because no, we're not talking about this. Well,
I'm because you say like that she said to not
pursue your dreams, but in the script I don't hear
that there's more. That's why I just said there's like, mentally,
(11:42):
how are you after that whole thing? I totally forgot
about it until you brought this lovely script. I'm sorry.
I apologize for just like continuing to like drop up
and bring up just terrible moments in your life. But
I feel like this is what this show is until
the hill start, and then we'll just be bringing up
terrible moments in your life that are happening currently. Oh
(12:03):
my god, So we're going to bring all the horrible
moments from the past. Yes, you're gonna surprise me every week, present,
and future once the show starts. But by the way,
when is this going to happen? I cannot say it
has been pushed back. It has been we are going
to do some more filming. Okay, why some stuff has happening?
(12:24):
More stuff? Yeah, all right, um okay, So like but
mentally are you're fine with it? Though? Today? I am,
because like last episode, not only was it mentally taxing
on you just in terms of like the Kelly Cotrone
interview and conversation, but then we also talked about like
your your family, um, the pressures that the show has
(12:47):
has put on you and your relationships, whether they're whether
they're family relationships or even romantic relationships. So I had
an idea, Oh god, I thought it would be interesting
and probably behoove you two bring on a therapist and
talk about I don't know, like, um, some of the
(13:10):
issues that you've got. What is this not? Is it
the therapist that I have? Did you find her through
my rootex? Is your therapist? Dr Hillary gold Schert No
another one to add to my list? Yes? All right,
well this one I think we're getting this. You don't
have to pay like a copay for or anything. This
one is just um, so can we bring in Dr Hillary?
(13:33):
This is a therapist for my family or just for
like you and your relationships we gotta figure things out,
We gotta break things down. We gotta maybe, I don't know,
pull out some emotions that you are withholding. I'm just
gonna buy waterproof masca. Yeah, that's what this show should be.
(13:53):
Sponsored by Revlon Waterproof Mascara, use promo code steps crying again.
Oh my gosh, we just said, um an interview with
g m A. It's gonna eric closer to the air dates.
We just did like recording and she did a lightning
round and one of the questions so like we could
(14:14):
answer like which one like it wasn't directed anyone specific,
and she asked who cries the most? Everyone goes. Stephanie
was like to the entire Hills cast. Ye oh yeah,
I know you're doing stuff right now. I'm stalling and
my hands are clammy. Yeah, your palms are crying right now. God,
(14:37):
it's different when it's at the fast. You don't know. Well, well,
so let's just see what happens. If it's terrible, we'll
cut it out. Sure, no, we won't. You're sick. We're
gonna bring Dr Hillary Goldscher in in just a second,
but a real quick we got a break. Dr Hillary,
can you come, can you come in here and sit
with us live in the studio. That okay. So, I mean,
(15:00):
like you you heard the kind of lead up into this,
And obviously what makes Stephanie probably amazing reality TV is
that she wears her heart and her sleeve. Um, and
she's fantastically emotional, but she has issues with relationships with
her family or even um in like the dating world.
So I thought we'd bring you on to try to
(15:21):
kind of get to the bottom of like some of
her issues. Yeah, how would you? I mean, having issues
is a is a huge umbrella. I mean, I don't
know what well was talking about? What issues? I'm cool,
totally stable, I'm well, I don't want to talk about
my family um today, Okay, next time? Oh god, okay, Um,
(15:47):
so maybe just like my relationships with friends and dating? Yeah, yeah,
what's your dating history? Didn't like kind of a big question,
but terrible guys we've had. This has been like an
ongoing theme on the show where she chooses guys who um,
don't pay the bill, but then take the tip money
(16:08):
and leave the mill of date. So we got not
the tip money, the change the hun I'm so my
longest relationship was when I was seventeen and it was
eleven months. So I've never made it to that freaking year. Um,
(16:28):
which is really bad to say when you're dating someone.
So in the past five six years, they've all been
about three months. And then I had a seven month
relationship where we lived together. But then and we were
talking about like getting engaged and looking at rings. His
(16:49):
parents had bought a place in l A so we
could be you know, trans atlantic. I live in London,
and um, it was all very serious and I'm I
was on a reality show in London called Maid and
Chelsea and they came out here to film in l
a series for the summer. I showed up to filming
one day. I was at my sister's house earlier giving
(17:10):
my NIE's birthday presents. Showed up filming and my boyfriend,
who was I have a place here, he's living with
me here was standing like on a dock and Marina
del Rey and like, whenever you're near water on reality shows,
it's not a good conversation. Like that's just like rule
of thumb. So in London, like we're always on bridges
when there's a breakup. So he's like on this dock
(17:33):
and I'm like I don't even notice it because we're
so good. Walk over and we're like hey hi or
I am, and you just go straight in. Why are
we pretending? Oh wow? It was like do you have
a script? Like what? And he was like why are
we pretending? Why are we doing this? So I was
(17:55):
on camera like just speechless, complete shocked. I had no
idea where it was coming from. We had gone out
the night before and yeah, his my best friend, was
doing the interior design on the house that his parents
just bought so they could be closer to us. It was.
(18:17):
It was insane and we never spoke again. Yeah, I
had I had my UM agent go and pack up
all my stuff in the house that we lived in
in Fulham and put it all in storage. So I
didn't even get to pack up my own stuff because
I was stuck in l A filming. So when I
(18:38):
did go back to London, I found an apartment through
realtor when I was in l A. So I get
the key, I land, I get the keys to the apartment,
open it, see it, and then straight to big yellow
storage in Fulham to start getting my life and unpacking
my life. So that was intense. UM the other relationships
(19:02):
all about three months, um with horrible people. But I
think that's why they end at three months, because the
honeymoon's over. And then you know, I'm like Cinderella, Cinderella,
wash my clothes, pick me food, but I love it.
And then I'm like, wait a minute, I'm being taken
advantage of. Like he's not going to get his own place.
(19:24):
I never asked him to move in, and like here
he is sitting on the couch while I'm going to work,
and you know, then he'll want to do like a
photo and get some followers on Instagram. So I'm always
very cautious that anyone, I mean, and I really only
meet people on TV, is that they are looking for
(19:46):
that you know, covered chip where it's new couple, you know,
bloah blah blah. They want that kind of um, not fame,
but they just want to be in the press were
they asked to come on Made in Chills. See, yeah,
I mean, you you certainly have a special kind of
challenge by being someone in the public life, for sure.
(20:06):
I mean you're never quite sure when you first never
known someone whether or not their intentions are good. So
it's sort of like all you can do is know
your own right, So I'm curious what it's like how
you normally show up in the world of intimacy. You know, what,
what are your patterns and ways of being when you
start getting close to someone. I mean, I think I'm
(20:29):
a delight. I have got a career, I make my
own money, I'm great with animals and kids, and I'm
definitely the girlfriend that you know it is cooking and
cleaning and just waiting on you know, the king. Yeah, Like,
I'm very much like my mom and dad, or my
mom they've been married for thirty years, met on a
(20:51):
blind date, no, like forty years by now, but um,
they just start to resent me because I work more
than them, And for the last few years I've chosen
work over everyone, over my family, any relationship, my friends.
So once you start seeing sort of signs that the
(21:12):
person you've chosen isn't being fully supportive of who you
are and where your life is head and how you're
moving through the world, what do you do. I'm God,
I get really annoyed and every little thing they do
just pisces me off. Like you know, if they get
(21:32):
out of the shower, the towels on the sofa. I'm
just like what I'm doing? M M. And are you
able to kind of articulate I'm needing this as sort
of a fundamental aspect of this relationship is not happening
or are you more focusing on like the towel and
the smaller things. Um? Yeah, I don't voice it. I
(21:54):
just put it in this little jar until I explode.
Of course, do you think that you use that because
we've talked about this before where you say that like
the perfect time length for relationship is like three months.
Do you think that you that you look for those
things around that three month period to start self destructing
(22:16):
the relationship. I mean, you know, like when it's you,
you can't really tell. But I want to say, after
you know, two and a half months, like the honeymoon
stage is over, and like you know, towels on sofas.
I mean, I'm not like anal like that, but that
was just like an example. I think, Um, I start
(22:38):
to see who that person is, Like, Okay, they don't work,
they're always on their sofa. I know what this is
going to turn into. It's going to turn into my ax.
How he was always you know, so annoyed that I'd
be working all the time, and you know that just
starts fights and I don't. I don't need that. So
it's so I think it's them. I want to say
(22:59):
it's them, like I'm starting to see their true colors.
It's never about me. Well, well, it's definitely notable. I
would not have earned my credentials if I don't ask
you why. Three months seems to be the perfect amount
of time for a relationship. Yeah, but I go in
like fast and heavy. Yeah, like I love a vacation
(23:20):
right away. Have you ever been in love? Yes? That
was that seventeen year old relationship. Yes. I wonder if
there's a party of view that is ultimately afraid of
kind of true intimacy where once no, I'm an aries
And what does that mean to youst what makes you
(23:44):
do you think find ways and reasons to back out
my work schedule and my travel schedule? Okay? Yeah, I
mean my girlfriend when I was just in London, she
was like, okay, stuff, like, so what's your deal? You
really need to start dating? Because I never look But
I also like, don't go out, so it would be
(24:08):
like a delivery man like for a chance meeting and
chemistry sparks because I just have to work. I just
want to be home, watch friends, be with my dog.
I'm not like out looking in you know, the bar
or whatever. But I also it's really weird because as
well as knows, I love attention, but I only like
it when I want it. So when I walked down
(24:30):
the street, I'm always looking down. I never wear anything scandalous.
I don't wear makeup, and I'm usually in a beanie
or baseball cap, like I like to be very and
not because like I think I'm famous or anything like that.
I just I'm super low key and I don't want
men's attention, and I'm like, oh stop. But obviously when
(24:51):
I do want attention, I'm like, you know, breaking out
the selfies. Does it feel like something you want at
this point in your life, a serious relationship? So I
thought it was so when my girlfriend was like, you
need to start dating, and I do. I'm going to
be thirty three in April, and it's you know, it's
been like years since I've dated, years since I've had
(25:14):
a three month or but I just went on a
blind day two weeks ago and then I had it
was great, and then I met him on Riah, and
then I saw him again during the day, but I
was I'm leaving, I'm going out of town tomorrow and
(25:36):
then I'm filming, and then i go back to London
in June, and then I'm in Greece and then I'm
in the Maldives. Like I just already have all these
travel plants and like there's no room for anyone else.
So it was like the weirdest feeling when I was
like standing, not standing sitting with him, Like I was
just like, this is like I'm looking at prison. Mm hmm,
(26:01):
what do you mean like this? If I pursue this,
it's going to destroy all my all my stuff. There's
some way in which you feel sort of engulfed by relationships. Ultimately, Well,
it's just one of those things like I wouldn't want
to date someone if they're always going out of town
and they put work before me and you know, and yeah,
(26:26):
well do you do a long distance relationship? Yeah? I
did for a while. Yeah, I say I could do those.
That sounds lovely actually, as longest relationships are are nice
for people that are super busy because then you just
you carve out the time that you're going to spend
with them um before and it works. But I will
say this so obviously, like my expertise in the dating
(26:47):
world comes from The Bachelor Harrison. Yes, Curse Harrison is
my guru. But everyone will go on the show and
say I'm ready for love, I'm ready to settle down,
and that's the right thing to say, but it's not.
It's rarely the truth, especially with a lot of these
people who are beautiful, under thirty years old and you know,
(27:11):
trying to start a career and whatever type of entertainment. Um.
I think that there for me, especially like because I
I went through like it was nice to be on
a TV show, it was nice to be recognized if
I went to a bar or something. It was easy
for me to get dates and stuff, which I think
it probably is easy for you're beautiful, which is would
be easy for you to get dates. Um I I
(27:36):
just okay, well they're probably intimidated by you. But there
there came a time in my life where I was like,
I I want to have a relationship. Now there's like
this this big hole in my life that I that
I that I'm ready now to fill this thing. And
I think that you can't truly allow yourself to fall
in love until you're like, this is what I really
(27:57):
want and it just sounds like that that's this is
something that you really really want, Like the whole Maldives thing. Dude,
you could have a relationship with someone. I still travel hell,
they could travel with you, and you can face time
with them and phone sex with them, and like it's
very doable. It feels like a job. That is not
a good sign. I feel well. Yeah, I mean that's
(28:18):
I think what we're wells and I are now teeming
up to suss out, which is like, is it like
a logistical thing that is doable, you know, where there's
just sort of practical solutions, or is it really a
time in your life like it's just not what I
want right now, or are there like a set of
psychological dynamics that have you kind of shut down and these,
(28:40):
you know, sort of practicalities and logistics are part of
what you use to to sort of ward off the
possibility of intimacy. I don't really need the last sounded
completely right, Yeah, I mean yeah, well, I mean what
you said at the beginning not and I certainly don't
want to push you in an area that's I want
to learn. That's for it to know. I found his
(29:01):
relationships ship expert. I mean, how people move through their
romance romantic romantic called their um intimate relationships is often
a reflection of the dynamics that exists in their family
of origin. You know. And you said at the beginning
to want to talk about your family, and I don't
want to push you on that, but I'm sure it's
related whatever stuff. I don't even think. So. My brother
(29:23):
has been with his wife, he's one woman man for
like eleven years, maybe twelve. My mom, dad, you know,
like forty years. So I also have these standards that
are super high. And actually, well, I don't think i've
ever told you this, but years ago we're watching The Bachelor.
Years ago, maybe ten years ago, my mom, dad and
(29:45):
I was at their house and my dad was like, Stephanie,
would you ever go on the show? And I was like,
uh no, unless I was the bachelorette, I would love that,
and he was like, okay, good good. I just never
want you to be one of those girls that you
know has to fight for the guy that you like,
(30:06):
because you know you'll find the right guy. But I
don't even want you to like I'd preferred if you
never got married and stay single. My mom's like, scap,
but I was like, thank you, dad. So it's kind
of like the opposite of all my friends where they're like,
you're thirty, why aren't you married? My dad is like
promoting me to just die alone. Well, I'm sure that
(30:30):
even impacts. Do you think about choosing someone that they
have to be perfect and live up to the standard.
My mom always says, you're never going to meet someone
like your dad, And I always say when I'm interviewed,
I just want literally someone like my dad. He's so smart,
but like mainly thoughtful and generous. He's just he's such
(30:50):
anna when one woman guy. Um. But there's just no
one out there like him. And so then I'm like, okay,
well there's no one out there. I don't have time
to like be trying to date. And also I know
how it ends up. What makes you say that. I mean,
when you're dating someone for three months, you're able to
(31:12):
date a lot of people that year, and it all
ends up the same. They present me because I put
work first, and you know, our conversations are usually about
like what happened up filming blah, blah blah, or they
use me for money or for getting in magazines. So
(31:37):
I just know, like there's not they're going to get
something out of me, Like when I am seeing someone,
they're using me no matter what. You know what it
sounds like though, it sounds like you're not choosing the
type of person. It seems like you continue to choose
people that will end up inevitably do those things to you,
(32:00):
Like it sounds like you need to find a guy
who is independently successful, um that doesn't give a crap
about Instagram or Instagram, you know, but you keep on,
you keep on running into these kind of like, for
lack of better term, losers. I think we need to
find you like a winner. They're all married, No, okay,
(32:23):
so I'm going to wait for the divorcee round. Yeah,
early in there, like early my early forties. Well, I
think if there's this sort of habitual pattern of you
intersecting with or choosing people that have this tendency to
take advantage of you or use you, and it sort
(32:46):
of feels like you you already know the end of
the story, you already know the last chapter. They're not
going to be like your dad totally you know there's
a party that's sort of sitting out of the game anyway,
Like you've kind of benched yourself, you know, you're just
kind of bowing through the motions. Is that a security
blanket though, like like knowing that failure is inevitable, that
you can't be really hurt because you never emotionally let
(33:07):
yourself to be hurt by someone you care about. But well,
you know how open and honest I am with my feelings,
Like I don't think I protect myself from being hurt
because I when I'm hurt, like, it's not like I
don't communicate. And but I do think I do think
you do that, be Do I do think you do
that because you're you're not dating people that you can
(33:31):
get past a third month with. So that's your wall
that you're putting up for your those emotional and emotional barrier.
In a way, it's easier to be open and vulnerable
with people who aren't in the caliber of men that
you should be dating. Do you know what I mean?
There's like a comfort in it because you sort of
know it's not going to go anywhere. You sort of
know your emotional needs aren't going to get Matt so
(33:51):
being open and honest, which is, by the way, an
incredible quality, which will serve you well with the right person,
you know, but it it doesn't kind of help because
you're choosing people that can't respond to your needs. You know,
they can't take it in. I'm just choosing what's available. Okay,
I'm going to set you up with somebody. Okay, I'm
gonna say you with somebody I think is in the
(34:13):
caliber of your badass. Wait, are you friends with him?
Because I could destroy this friendship. No, yes, we're really
good friends. So okay he was. He was on the
Bachelrette with me. Okay, does he have a job? What
was his title? He's uh, he is in finance. Okay, normal.
(34:35):
He lives in New York, he works in finance. He's
independently wealthy. He's very successful. He doesn't really care about
the TV thing he did. He went on it. I mean,
it was still a fun adventure for him, but he like,
he's not like selling ads on Instagram to like make
his living, Like he goes and works at a bank
(34:55):
every day. Like right now, my quickest thought was, Okay,
he went on TV show. Sure he's not doing that. Anymore.
But if he gets it's on an opportunity, it's probably
like bad luck. If he has the bad luck in
dating me, he's gonna want to jump into that entertainment
stuff again. I know it. I know it. If he's
already been on TV, he's gonna reap the benefits of
(35:19):
dating me. But you're also on TV. Yeah, you know, like,
but I'm not. I'm not a guy Like they're getting sacks.
They're getting on TV. They're getting their laundry done, they're
getting you know, cooked meals, they're getting everything. What do
I get a job to make sure they feel needed?
(35:42):
Because my work is my priority. So if I fly
out my friend Derek on my Heart radio money, if
I get someone from my heart to fly him out,
will you go on a date with him? Can I
see a photo? Yes? Do you know who he looks like?
Do you ever to the office, Dwight? No, he doesn't
(36:03):
look like white no service down here. He looks like
Jim Helper. He looks like John Krasinski. Do you think
this is a good idea? And this is a bad idea?
You know you'll be there? Maybe I should aie. Yeah,
I was going to say, I think it's a good
(36:23):
idea for you to practice trusting your ability to decide
if someone's appropriate. Really, a lot of the people you're
gonna meet are going to be in the business. It
just is. I mean, unless you withdraw completely for like
five years or something. It's just like I wish they had,
like be the cameraman. You know, I get it, I
get it. You've been, don't, you know, go on a
(36:44):
show and pictures being passed over. So we'll pause for
her response. No, no, no, what's wrong with him? I'm
not gonna say it on air. You have still it's
not my type? What is it? Okay? Hold on. So
this is a very interesting thing that I remember learning
(37:05):
about myself when I was on the show is that
there were a bunch of people that weren't my type.
And I was watching people dating people that weren't their
types and then falling in love because here's the deal,
your type has always been a failure. But I have
to be attracted to them. I want to, like, it's
not a job if like I want to come home
(37:26):
and jump on them. You know, I'm asking, well, is
to get another picture I know well, which I don't
think is a bad premise even if you don't feel
initially attracted to him, and we're getting another picture just
to make sure. But I will go on a second
third day with someone just because my mom on her
(37:48):
blind date, she said that my dad didn't talk once
and then she saw me guy, even though she was like,
what a freak, And he like was just so nervous
that first date, and you know, he opened up more.
There was so like I always give people a second chance,
unless they're rude to a waiter. Then I'm like, you suck. Yeah, Well,
because there's something that's making you continue to say yes
(38:11):
two guys that end up taking advantage of you or
using you, And so it might be a good idea
to go out with someone who you sort of know
you know, well, is that that isn't who this person is. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like every guy that well, this
is so not my type. This is like I don't
know what your type is. I told you Garrett Headland, Okay,
well I don't have his number in my phone. Um,
(38:34):
but here's the thing. Every every story that I've heard
about guys that haven't worked out with you, there's a
common denominator and the common nominator is there they're unsuccessful? Yes, Okay,
So I went and found my most successful friend. He
has a master's degree, he's in finance, he owns like
(38:56):
three houses. Really smart guy, really good looking dude. And
I just think that you should, you guy, should least
go on a date, just just see what happens. I
will never turn down a date. That sounded desperate. I
had to do like a long list of reasons why
(39:18):
you should go on a date with him for you
to accept it. Huh, you said, I will never turn
onto date, even though initially you're like, no, he's not
my type of Okay, all right, well we're gonna fly
out here. You guys are going to go on a date.
Are you going to be on it? No? But then
we're going to bring him in no, oh my god,
(39:38):
and we're going to talk about it with him. Yeah.
I want. I want to see what's going on. And
and uh dr Hillary will be there too, thank god.
Oh my god. See, I actually think we should look
at it not so much like if you happen to
connect and hit off grade, but more of an exercise
of like, I'm sure you've had this before, but at
(39:59):
this point in your It's like, what's it like to
be treated well by someone, to be respected and taken
out and with someone who doesn't have another agenda? It
sounds like you know that to be true? Wells, and
just see what that feels like. Just have that experience. Yeah,
it's so hard because I'm just so like happy with myself,
Like I I can go weeks without talking to someone
(40:20):
like and I like that. I you know, I talked
to my dog. But yeah, that's an unfulfilled life. But
is it? Yes, because look at the look at the
happiness that your brother and his wife have, or your
dad and your mom have. Trust me, When I go
to my parents house and I'm in the fridge, all
of the photos on the fridge are of their grandchildren.
And I realized the other day. I was like, you
(40:43):
know what, that's how you repay your parents for everything
they've done. You repay them with grandchildren. And I actually
got pretty like deep in my thoughts and went on
a little rabbit hole and got really emotional, and I
was just like, my parents have done so much. The
fridges covered with you know, for grandchildren, and I've got
(41:06):
like a photo of me on a horse. But I
just was like, like, I feel really bad, Like my
parents are probably like not my dad. My mom's probably
like okay, well she's my you know, I'm not going
to have any grandchildren with her. Yeah, you know this
is what stands out to me, and I kind of
keep circling back to it. But you keep changing people
(41:27):
who have this similar tendency, right that you found out
our taking advantage of you in some way. I want
something from you. And the question to me isn't that
like are you doing something to like draw people like
that to you? But the question is when they're in
your sphere, why are you letting them stay even for
three months? You know that you've had so many stints
of three months with people like that, even after the
(41:50):
but it starts off good. But at some point before
three months now I'm like way more. Yeah, um, I
don't know what the word is, but like I because
it's happened so many times, I'm like way more like
privy to like noticing it. But before like two years ago,
(42:13):
three months were fine because you know, it wasn't until
it happened for like the fifth time and I was like, okay,
well they're all using me. But until then, like the
three months was fine because I was naiven, gullible. Yeah,
And I think that's that's the part we need to
kind of shore up within you. You know that that
I mean sort of a sweetness, but that you know,
(42:34):
naivete and gullibility that makes probably part of you vulnerable
and appealing and charismatic and all those wonderful things about you.
But that you want to kind of shore up a
little bit so that people who don't get through your filter,
do you know what I mean? For even like date
number two, you know, and that's someone like Derek. And
I'm not saying this is like the guy if you
want on a Derek, but that right, that someone who
has like a resume at least, or like someone who
(42:56):
can vouch on their behalf. Um, that these qualities that
are are so important to you exist like gets through
you know what I mean? That too much of your
time and days have been spent with people like that
in your romantic life, and that like, to me, that's
more than like will you get married and how grandchildren?
I'm sure you will. I mean I don't know five
years or ten years or two years, you will. I
(43:16):
just decided this summer that I was open having kids,
like I'm a real late bloomer waiting for my boobs growing. Well,
some of this is evolving for you, though, and that's okay.
I mean that's kind of your personal journey if like
there's a part of you that hasn't wanted like or
hasn't either been ready for it, hasn't wanted or hasn't known,
or all those things intersecting to make it very messy
(43:37):
and confusing that you're just evolving into like yes, I'm
a woman who wants these things. Then I get super paranoid,
like and that's why I'm like, oh my god, I
should look on Rya or whatever, because I'm so set
in my ways. I've always lived by myself, and I like,
you know, specific things like that I'm scared that I'm
(43:58):
going to get crazier and crazier and crazier, just you know,
when like you can't share with someone, like you can't
share a space. That I'm so set in my ways,
and that is like probably what I think about the most,
and like when I yeah, I'm really worried that the
older I get, the harder I'm gonna make it all myself.
(44:19):
Not on purpose, but just being so used to being
alone and doing everything for myself. I mean, like I
have a toolkit pint in my own walls, you know,
like I don't need a guy are I think what
you're saying is real. I think it is by definition
true that as you get older, and not that you're old,
but as you get older, that you're more set in
(44:41):
your ways and it is harder to adjust a living someone.
I think it's a real thing, and you might struggle
and you might mess up in that process, but growing
together with someone and kind of moving through those challenges
as part of what builds intimacy and like family. So
do you think I should date someone my age or
older or younger? And I don't know if I have
an answer. I just think that you should date someone
(45:02):
who's evolved and has a life that's full and can
offer something to you. You know that is that often
someone who's like around your age or older shore but
is it sometimes not? Yeah? You know, I think it's
more about finding someone who's like on their own sort
of established emotionally, mentally, financially, professionally. I mean, it sounds
(45:26):
like this guy is starting off horribly, but now I've
want someone with their own life, their own career, their
own money, and then I have that on my own
and then we have a life. To insist on it.
Never date someone again who doesn't have that. I would
just make that a rule for yourself. Insist on it.
You deserve it. Anyways, in fear of you turning into
(45:50):
a crazy cat lady, we're setting you up on a date,
all right, and I want to get to the bottom
of this whole thing. And I think it'll be interesting
for you to go on a date with Derek, who,
by the way, I vouched for, super solid dude, one
of the nicest guys I've ever met. He was that friendship. Well,
I don't trust me. I don't think I don't think
anything's gonna happen with that, But I want Derek now
(46:12):
he's going out with stuff. Yes, I was, I was,
I was. I was just in New York. I was
with him and I was talking you up and he
was really excited about it. What did he think of
Stephanie's picture, Well, Stephanie's definitely he is beautiful, So he
was like, yeah, cool, definitely, totally. Uh. He was excited
(46:33):
about it. So it made me sad to hear you're like, no,
he's not my type. Also, like Derek is like a
one of like the prettiest men I've ever met in life,
So that was throwing me for a curveball. But regard,
I hope he's not listening to this. I'm not gonna
allow him to listen to this at all, um, But
I do think that you should go on this date
(46:53):
no matter what happens. Listen. I don't think you guys
are gonna get married, but I do think that you
have constantly dated guys that we're not of your caliber,
and I do think this guy is one of those.
So I want you guys to go on a date.
And then I want you guys to both come back
here and I want to bring Dr Hillary Goldscher back
and I want us to break it down and see
if we can really get to the root of this
(47:14):
whole thing. Okay, last thing, I just want you to
like have the heads up. I and like first dates.
I love them. So I went on one on the
hills and it's blind day and like after it that
produces like, oh my god, this is amazing, Like you
(47:35):
guys really hit it off. You were like bam bam bam,
and smiling and laughing, and I was like, oh no,
I don't want to see him again, and they're like
what I was like, I just had a fun dinner
with him, so I love I have a lot of fun.
Like that's the problem, Like you'll you'll never be able
to tell if I'm not into it, because I can
(47:56):
have fun with like a stone, you know, I find
fun everywhere I got. Well, it'll be That's good to know.
It'll be interesting if that's how it goes. That if
you have this like sort of energetic date but we
find out behind the scenes you weren't feeling you know,
chemistry're attracted, that we can at least break that down,
(48:17):
you know, why not? And what does that mean in
terms of how you evaluate who's appropriate for like a
second date or something. But that's good to know that
we may see that or we may hear that that's
how it went regardless, hopefully see I'd really like you
to be there, just like at another table. You know,
we're not doing the Hills episode where there's like producers,
(48:37):
a gam people around, just normal date you guys, I
need cameras. It's weird without cameras. Um Dr Hilary Gouldcher,
thank you so much for something but my pleasure. I'm
excited to come back and here the next phase of
this process. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Okay, so
we broke it down for you and then so the
next episode is really the therapy. I can't wait. Yeah,
(49:03):
we're going to get some answers here. Okay, all right,
we're running out of time. So okay, thank you so
much for hopefully saving my life, for having no pressure,
real quick in and out or shake shack on three
one two three, shake shock from my birthday. There's one
in London, like in Covent Garden. Really they have in London, Yes,
(49:25):
and now they've got like four over there like it
was before it even came to l A shake shock
is my life. Cheeseburgers are my number one favorite food. Really,
there's nothing better than chick shock. I swear all my life.
You guys all natural angus beef burgers. I didn't even
know that. Loving me more, we've got them outside of
the studio or but what rush ah if that's a joke. No,
(49:49):
I'm not how terrible to the person you think I am. No,
it's just you know, the hills. You never know it's
really there's a really shake shock, if there is, I
did go right now, I've got to go to the
bathroom wells and that's that where you're going right now. Okay,
maybe we should end. Yeah, let's just eat some shake shock.
Jake shock dot com to find one near you. Apparently
(50:11):
one in London, three in London. Yep, dang, you want
to do the outro? Don't we do it together? Now? Yeah?
Well okay, ready, yeah, hell yeah, shows over yeah. Follow
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