April 8, 2019 • 56 mins
We finally begin the official countdown to The Hills: New Beginnings Premiere! (June 24th) Stephanie admits to Wells that her relationship with her brother Spencer is not good, and she blames her sister- in - law Heidi. Steph reveals to Wells all the details about the relationship with Heidi and Spencer, why it's falling apart, and can it be repaired. Wells expresses his concerns about the ramifications that may occur following the airing of this episode.
On a happier note, Steph and Derek Peth are on their second date in Napa and they give us all the juicy details.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is I Heart Radios Pradcast with Stephanie Pratt and
Wells Adams live from Nappa The Pradcast, Wells Adam, steph
Pratt hanging out. We're in a ballroom right now. I
suppose I don't know. We've been drinking on a train, yes,
because they don't remember. We've been on the Napa Valley
Wine train and now we're at the River Terrace. Inner.
(00:25):
Remember I'm not I'm actually pretty. You're a bit drunk
on the trains the show, dude? Oh yeah, I'm totally
sober too. Okay, Yeah, this is a super podcast. Just
watched the Hills promo video that's on your Instagra. Yes,
(00:46):
that came out on Monday. Feel the rain on your skin.
That's how it sounds. It's exactly how it sounds. Nailed it,
we God, damn it, Wells we you nailed it. Yes.
I was going to answer, but like, yeah, that was
(01:06):
a that was amazing all right. By the way, a
lot of stock footage. Not proud of it, all right,
I want to see new stuff. This is what I
found out. What's going on? Okay. It made me feel
a lot of things, a lot of emotions of things.
I don't know what you're doing with your face right now.
A lot of things must stomach. I think you're still
(01:26):
doing with your face. Made me feel a lot of things,
But then what kind of things? Emotions? Happy, sad, like sad, happy, elated, excited,
and most of all, June, what date twenty fock dear Jesus,
(01:47):
that this show is actually gonna happen alright day, June mona, No,
it's fine, really long when I say it this way,
but we are eleven short weeks away from having the
Hills New Beginning. I just want everyone to know that
when we started this podcast, we thought it was going
to come out in March. Okay, you guys have gone
(02:10):
on in in a very long journey with us, and I
appreciate it. What our hope is is that everyone listening
just continues with us for eleven more weeks it's gonna
be and then we're really going to bring the fire.
But if you could tell three friends to also tune
in for the next eleven weeks, forget that. I'm ready
to spill all the beans before you do that. For me,
(02:31):
I've already filmed the whole series. I'm ready to dish
before you do that. What I found interesting about the
video that you posted on your Instagram, stopped doing that
what you're doing because it's distracted. What I found interesting
about what you posted was in that video, that intro
video for the Hills New Beginnings. You know who's in
(02:53):
the middle, you, oh, in the photo. It's a video
and at the end of the video it's everyone in
the cast and who's in the middle. You and Brodie
are the two people in the middle of the video,
which makes me interested because if I was a producer,
I would put the two most important people in the
(03:15):
middle of my intro video. Well god, that that puts
me in an awkward position. Wells how because I like
to be modest and humble. But yeah, for sure you
saw that. I saw it right, Okay, good cool, I
bring the drama. But here's the problem. Like it was
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literally by default, because every no, no, no, nothing happens
by default and reality TV. I'm sorry this does because
I've been on reality TV for ten years. There was
only one year that I was off reality TV. So
when I left Maid in Chelsea to do The Hills,
I am still in this frame of my whole life
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is on TV. Like, don't hide anythinging like, you know,
you have to confront everything, blah blah blah. But everyone
else who haven't they haven't been on TV for eight years,
so they're coming on the show and they're like, you know,
some of them have kids that they're married, but they're like,
this is my comeback and I want my image to
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be a certain way. So the majority of the all right,
everyone but me basically is holding back, and you know,
they want to put the right information out that they
feel comfortable with, which is like totally understandable and it
doesn't make for a reality show. Yeah, step this is
(04:41):
the worst way to explain what I brought up, which
is you're in the middle of a photo shoot. Let's
race all that. Okay, go on. What you said had
nothing to do with the fact that producers are like, okay,
we need Steph and Brody in the middle of this food.
I'm saying I brought it. Brodie brought it. So yeah,
(05:03):
let me ask you that does Brodie bring it? Brodie
doesn't bring it. He denies and lines about everything that's
going on in his life, so he does bring it,
but his directly. But yes, Brodie's story is going to
be like the main story on the Hills. I think
people will be shocked at how he lives his life. However, okay,
(05:28):
that was a promise to producers, and he took a
while to sign his contract, and I assume this was
why because he wasn't the press. He was saying that
he wanted to, you know, share all this world law,
so he waited for the whatever fee that he got it.
And by the way, I'm getting paid the least everyone.
I just wanted to know, how do you know that?
How would you know? Duh? I asked everyone? Okay, and
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everyone loved telling me how much more they make them me,
And I was like, do you want to throw out
a number? No, but like, let's just say I'm getting
a fourth of what people are getting because I was
supporting casts on the original one. But here's me. You
know who's in the middle of that intro video Me? Yeah, yeah,
(06:14):
So what are you going to try? And like, oh
my god, season two, I'm asking for a palace. So
I can't imagine that Heidi and Spencer don't bring it.
They don't. Heidi is at home with Gunner and protecting,
protecting her image. Spencers out there being as nice as
(06:36):
he can look with like his crystals and good energy.
So I feel I sense a little animosity towards your
brother and Heidi right now. Yes, we are not on
good terms. We are not on speaking terms. I do
not consider them my family. This is so weird because
when we started the show you were like, we're doing good.
The first episode was with Spence. We were great, we
(07:01):
were absolutely great. And what had happened Heidi? Heidi? We
had our photo shoots for press and for the opening titles.
We had three days of it that went to like
three am. There were long shoots and Heidi I had
(07:22):
a bottle of champagne that she gave all the girls
except for me. Why not you? I don't know, And
I asked Spencer. I was like, we're literally in the
middle of a photo shoot, all standing in a living
room like taking photos, and She's like, Trea, I do
you want to refill? Whitney came get a refill and
I'm like can I I'm family, like, why can't I
(07:45):
have a glass? And she just would blank me. And
then as I went on, my brother looked over and
gave me like thumbs up, like a you okay. Because
we were in such a good place you wanted to
check on me because it had been like a twelve
hour day already. And I looked at and I was
like no. I was like, why aren't you letting me
have champagne? And he goes out loud. He's like, this
(08:06):
is Heide's deal. This is Heide's deal. And she's hugging sponsor.
So she's literally like ten inches in front of me,
but her back is to me. My brother is looking
at me saying this heids alcohol. She got it from Postmates.
She does not turn around. Can we insert the Postmates
add right here? We were like in a house in
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the hills, like and the hills was like very hills.
Can I ask a question? Is she worried about your drinking?
I'm not an alcoholic? So what is your take on this?
Then she's okay, So Whitney, sweet Whitney, like is mouthing
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to me. This is weird? Is this normal? Because she
keeps inviting everyone free refills and I'm saying, my brother,
I'm family, why can't I have a drink? Can I
ask the question that think a lot of people are
probably asking right now, why didn't you confront Heidi and
say why am I not involved in the alcohol because
(09:09):
of my parents. And you know what, and that's that
is the last time I'm putting my parents as the
priority part of this relationship. Okay, I respect that answer,
but I don't understand it fully. What does that mean? Like,
because your parents and your brother have been in through
(09:29):
so much that you were just like, I just don't care.
What does that mean? Okay, so ever since my brother
and Heidi started dating, they're on the hills. I don't know.
Hopefully some of you guys are Hills Watchers viewers. They
went a wall and they were fired from the show,
and they moved to Costa Rica, as you do, right,
(09:53):
and they got arrested for legal weapons. So when that happened,
my dad got them a private jet, flew them into
Santa Barbara, moved them to our beach house. And again like,
I had a memoir that I wrote. It was a
Sunday Times best seller. It's called Made in Reality. But anyways,
this book and came books actually very juicy, all order
(10:16):
for you right now Amazon, Sunday Times forst seller. But
I wasn't allowed to say any of this because at
this point I was working for my parents, and what
that means is I was trying to keep the peace.
But here's what really happened. They had illegal weapons. They
got arrested in Costa Rica. They called my father after
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three years of not speaking to any of us, we
had all of our locks changed. It was not a
good situation, and so my dad hears from him he's
arrested in Costa Rica, gets him a private jet, flies
him to Santa Barbara and moves him into our beach house. Temporarily.
They lived there for seven years. Not only do they
(11:01):
live there, but Heidi had the goal to read you
my mom's walking closet. My sister called me. Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait you guys, no one
knows the real Heidi. No, I love. This is an
amazing story. Did your mom want a new walk in clothing? No?
So here's the thing for the news the beginnings. My
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mom and my brother and I all sat down and
we said we will not let this ruin our family again. Yeah.
How long did that last? Last week? Okay? I'm done. Yeah,
I don't care. I'm not protecting them anymore. Who my
brother and Heidi? Okay, so here's the thing I did. Okay,
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everyone should actually have this in mind. You have to
put on your oxygen mask before you put on someone else's,
and now is the like number one of self care.
So that's what I'm doing right now. If my mom
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can't handle this, that's her issue, and I cannot help her.
I'm thirty three. So what I'm doing to make it
easier for her is I'm not discussing anything I do
with work to her. It's completely off limits, off boundaries.
I'm not doing anymore. But I'm also not going to
(12:31):
pretend that Spencer and Heidi are good people. Okay, like
I was doing for most of the series for my parents,
but with the behavior that I've seen, not the behavior
that i've seen for they have done to me recently,
I'm done. This is why I moved to London. I'm done.
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I cannot live near them. They're the most toxic people
I've ever met. They are Bonnie and Clyde till they die.
So if they say the sky is black, all of
us are morons. Were saying it's blue, okay, And I'm done.
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I'm done. I'm I'm confident and secure enough in myself
to not pussy foot around them. Like I'm done. I'm
going to expose them for who they are. Just to
take the contrarian side here, I would imagine that a
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lot of people are saying, well, in a couple episodes ago,
you were saying how great your brother was, and how
great hard he was, and how great everything was in
your own No, no, I always say how great my
brother is. I've never said how great Hidie is. Valid
what happened my brother met Hidi Well? I don't know
how much to say after that. If you ever have
(14:00):
a son Wells, I pray that he does not meet
a hiding Montag. Wow, because what hiding Montag does? She
has played my family for money. When my mom said
what do you want from Costco? Toilet paper, paper, Twells,
(14:22):
she said a treadmill. She slept to my parents room
in the beach house that they built, had closets by design.
Come and read you my mother's walk in, took out
the bathtub in the bathroom and installed another closet with
my family knowing no on my dad's credit card. Yes,
(14:47):
I've never known anyone to be so entitled and have
so much goal. And you know what, like this feels
so therapeutic right now because I'm so tired of protecting
her going to happen? No, really, no, I'm done with them.
I am so dumb. What about your parents? I don't care.
Here's my real question. I'm I'm very interested in this,
(15:10):
and uh, I find it very interesting that m women
find it very easy to attack other women. And I
wonder if like you're, you're you're going super hard in
the pain after Heidi? Is there any this is twelve
years coming well to your brother. I mean, I understand her,
(15:38):
and I'm not like dumb dumb, Like I understand that
when you get married, your wife becomes the most important
thing before family, before sibling, everything, and I love that.
I hope my future husband puts me before his family.
That's fair. I'm but when we first met Heidi, when
they first started dating, she said to my mom and
(16:01):
sister and I, she said, what do I need to
do to get attention from Spencer? Drowned chance? And that
was our goal and retriever dog that my brother were like,
was best friends with right now. So my he died
four years ago, but drowned no no, no, no, notural pussies.
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But my mom and my sister and I all gave
each other look like, we will discuss this later. I
want to know though, because this is about to go live.
I don't know you're going to regret it. Absolutely not.
I'm so dumb protecting, But what about this is why
I moved to London, Amy. I understand many people have
difficult times with their sister in laws. I'm not gonna
(16:47):
pretend they don't. Well, here's the thing. If I was
your mom and dad, don't care, hold on, hold on,
wait here, I was a sister in law. Well, sorry
to interrupts. If I was a sister in law and
my husband wasn't getting along with anyone in his family,
it would be my goal to make sure I got
(17:08):
them back together. Because family is everything. There wouldn't be
a month that would go by where I wouldn't reach
out to his sister or his brother or whoever he
was funing with and be like, this is ridiculous. Where
family at the end of all this, Like that's all
we have. She has never tried to do that. She's
(17:28):
the one that eggs on the fights. If you're listening
to this podcast, what people are hearing is there was
a photo shoot and Steph didn't get champagne, and that's
why sounds really silly, and it was everyone except from me,
(17:50):
and I was standing next to her. To me, it's
the straw that broke the camel's back. Totally understand. I
understand that, but I need we need context or you're
going to look like the villain in this situation. So
I need context for what the f happened? Give me
one other thing that made this thing not work? Does
(18:13):
that make sense? It is I have literally protected her
for ten years. I don't even think we have the
time for me to tell you everything. And we have
eleven episodes Heidi Part three. But so okay, if it
(18:34):
weren't for Heidi, I would have an epic relationship with
my brother, so with my parents. But Heidi does not
want my brother to be connected to my mom, dad
or me. Why not? Why do you think that is?
She needs all of his attention. What about your other
sister who I'm not going to say her name because
I'm friendly with your other sister and she's very private.
(18:56):
How is her relationship? And what about all the cousins,
because that's an important relationships. She's got kids. Anything Heidi
lets people see Gunner. Do you think my mom gets
to see Gunner. My parents bought them a house five
minutes away from their house. Do you think my mom
has ever invited to go up there and see Gunner
after the jet from Costa Rica? No kid time? Does
(19:18):
that tell me? Well, they were in Santa Barbara for
seven years after the jet and then they had the babies,
like one and a half or something. Still that, No,
my mom is always crying to me, always crying to me,
and she's always saying to me, which makes me feel awful?
Is it's so different when it's not your daughter. What
(19:41):
is the fallout? And that makes me feel like, well,
like I need to have kids, like but I don't.
I'm not. It's so stress. There is another issue that
we could dig into many episodes from now where the
Mother of the Sun does have a bit of a
harder time with the grandchildren. The You would just think
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if someone had been supporting you financially for ten years,
put you up in their twenty million dollar beach house
and then a four million dollar house in the Palisades
when you were pregnant, you would say, come up, come
see the baby, or also, we're going on date night.
Couldn't you guys do a little babysitting, But I think
(20:23):
we'd also say that if we lived in an apartment
in you know what I mean. But what I'm saying
is that she doesn't want anyone to have any connection
to Spencer or two Gunner. Okay, so I realized that
she's trying to monopolize everyone's time. Here's another question. What
is the fallout going to be like when people hear
this horrible? Is it horrible? I guess? More importantly, I
(20:47):
don't really care about everybody else. I do love all
of the audience members, but I really care about what
your mom thinks of this and what Heidi will say this.
So what do you think answer in that question in
that way? What do you think your mom's going to
say when she hears all this? And then what do
(21:09):
you think Heidi will say? As of Tuesday, and Heidi
was horrific to me and all the girls at filming
Spencer's will if we had all the ID right now,
would they all be like, yeah, she's kind of being
honest about it? Oh god? Yeah. OK. I had to
call them all the next day and apologize on behalf
(21:30):
of my family. So you're doing pretty well getting along
with Audrina and all of them, and I had to
call all of them the next day, did you damage Control?
Because they were so horrible. They hadn't seen that side
of Heidi, and I was like, well, that's what I've
been living with for ten years. That's why I moved
to London. People will we see? I guess So that
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Tuesday night. The next morning I woke up and if
it was like when I first landed in l a
in October, I would have been and devastated, crying like
a complete mess, which I was for the beginning of
filming the series October November, December. But now it's gone
(22:12):
on so long and I'm I'd be fine to protect
them forever. But the last couple of months is just
a reminder with like what she's been doing, of how
awful this person is. Let me remind you that she
(22:32):
was in high school watching The guna Beach and she said,
I'm going to be a famous pop star. I'm gonna
move to San Francisco, go to fit hum, find Lauren Conrad,
and become famous. She did what she's been calculating since
she was what fifteen? Did she ever like Lauren Conrad? No,
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she made up a rumor that she had a sex tape.
What do you think that Heidi would say if she
was sitting in that chair right now hearing all this, Oh,
should be denying it. Duh, Yeah, what would she say? Well,
she'd asked my brother talk for her. She likes my brother.
What would your brother say for Heidi? For what you
(23:16):
had to say? My brother would be like, get out
of her Sephanie, like you're not part of our family,
blah blah. But you know what, I'm taking myself out
of my family. And my mom said to me because
I never told her about what happened on Tuesday night,
I was just like, you know what for this for
my life to continue being balanced, and I struggle with
(23:38):
depression and anxiety, and I have bipolar depression. For me
to be okay and do this not only obviously Samui medication,
but I cannot have everyone's back, I cannot worry about
everyone else. I need to worry about myself. I need
(23:58):
to put my oxygen mask on first. And I told
my mom, I said, I'm not going to tell you
about work anymore. When I'm in London, I never tell
you about work. So we're going to communicate as if
I'm in London still, how she wants to take the
information that's on her. I do not control her. I
only can control my perception and my attitude. I do
(24:23):
feel for your mom. She's in quite a predicament because
she has two children on the same show that is
about relationships and family and life, and of course it's
going to explode. But again, it was going great and
sul Heidi, I just want your mom to hang out
with her grandkids. That's all I care about. And the
fact that you're saying so I don't know if this
(24:45):
is true or not, but if she's not hanging with
her grandkid, then that's a problem. No, it's heartbreaking. So
I'm gonna play the tough right now. It's really sad,
and that's the only thing I'm really upset about. Is
Like the next day when I was talking to the producers,
I was like, they're like, are you okay, And I
was like, yeah, Like they're dead to me. I'm done.
Like I'm going back to Lyndon. It's all good, but
(25:06):
like I'm going to really miss Gunner. So let's dig
into it. I know this is gonna be hard. Typically
what I've learned in my forty five years, is that
we we do play some role in conflict, even if
we're certain the other person is to blame or the
other person is wrong. So for a minute, with Wells,
(25:28):
can you dig into is there any element that you
can take responsibility for? Yes, that I also use my
parents money, and Heidi wants it all to herself. Is
there enough money? They're like, I just like, can I can?
But here's what I think is funny about that, because
(25:51):
I know, I think I know what if you live
in there, if you're living the hills, there's a certain
amount of money that you want. Is that in the will?
Is that even a realistic possibility out of the will?
(26:12):
Because of how horrific he is human? But do you
understand what I'm asking here? Is she wants something that
might not exist. She might want seven and now and
it might be there. Is it a ridiculous thing that
she wants? No, she's getting everything. What about my parents
(26:34):
are very well? What about you and Spencer making it
for yourselves? No, you not need to dig into that.
It is always Heidi is always number one Spencer, So
you know what, Spencer is dead to me. But let's
say that's the only way I can handle it. You
just said. People are going to say, well, you're taking
(26:58):
the easy way out because you're going in reality TV
and you are half baked reality t V star or whatever,
and you're using that way to get fame and get money,
and that's faking it. Anyways, I get that. But my
thing is fine, if they want to go on TV
and you want to go on TV and become quote
successful and you know, have whatever product do you want
(27:21):
on your Instagram or start whatever businesses you want and
make money yourselves, I think that might help everybody rather
than being so dependent on on their parents. Okay, I'm
not dependent on my parents. I moved to London and
I've been on a TV show, I've worked, I have
a jewelry line, I have a clothing line. I had
(27:43):
an nutrition company that I had to close in two
thousand seventeen because I was so busy. All I do
is hustle. I do not want anything for my parents,
like I'm doing this all to make them proud of me,
like I want to give everything back. I'm so grateful
that they have helped me, and I'm not denying in
(28:05):
any way that they don't give me money and they
haven't helped me buy my place in l A. They have,
but no, and I'm sure they're happy that they're able
to do that. It gives a parent a lot of
fulfillment to be able to help their children, I'm sure.
But I that think for your own self esteem, that's
what I It's for my self esteem. What do you
(28:25):
think your brother thinks about this? There's no way that
your brother doesn't doesn't see what's happening. If what you're
saying is true, If what you're saying is true, there's
no way that he doesn't perceive what's happening as well.
She's just trying to get that money that he doesn't see.
Because if it was me, you would be very emasculating, right,
(28:49):
like I'm not doing enough here for my girl. You're
dealing with someone that calls the Papa Rozzi on himself
every day. At least I'm fine with that because he's
doing that. He's been crafty and smart business. I actually
think he's smart about that kind of stuff. See that
that makes me embarrassed for him totally. But if what
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he's trying to do is be in the public eye
and constantly being noticed and being in us magazine for
being a huge douche. But it doesn't really matter as
long as you're getting the exposure and the numbers are
going up, and his exposure is being because you think,
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and if they're going to take a picture anyway, at
least getting a couple of bucks for it. Totally. So,
So what I'm trying to say is is that, like,
what you're saying is interesting if it's true, what do
you think he thinks about it? And I understand what
you're saying is like a guy that calls the paparazzi
on himself doesn't care either way. But I would imagine
that your brother doesn't like the idea of taking your
(29:55):
parents money. He much rather would take the parazi's money.
Does that make sense? Absolutely? But he made millions upon
millions and spent it all on crystals and on Heidi's
pop music career. They never bought a place, They never invested.
They never do you think that's who talks? Will you
(30:18):
both do it better this time? I've always I always
give my money to my dad, and I say invested,
I don't want to see it. That's why I own
a place in l a And that's why I can
afford to have an apartment in London. My brother is, um,
I don't know. I've been doing radio sixteen years old.
(30:44):
This is the hardest show of ever. It stumps me
every time I say that so serious. I think it's
also because it's so real and like this is it's
they have this show, but then they also have this
relationship and your sweet sweet parents are involved. Well. Actually
I was in a fight with my mom when I
landed here today. Tell us um, because I was going
(31:06):
back to London next week and I changed my plans
and I was like, I'm actually going to rent that
house and go back to Hawaii. And she said, oh,
I'm scared to tell your father about this, and I
was like, I'll tell him. And she was like, well,
how much was your ticket? And I was like, I
(31:26):
bought my own ticket. I'm paying for the rental. And
I was like, what's your deal and she was just like,
you know, seventy is just like so hard. And I
was like, you're not bankrolling me. Do not make me
feel guilty for going on a whole day so I
will go out of town and I said, and I
have no problem mom cutting you out if you want
(31:48):
to continue to make me feel guilty and shameful for
when I do something with my own money. I don't
need you, and she said, and she said, eight, if
you cut out me, then you've cut out the whole family. Yeah,
and he's but at times they have supported you. So
I think it's very confusing. Look, I would love to
(32:09):
be on good terms with my mom, love love to
but you got your family has a thing where you
guys like to use each other's relationship as leverage. Well,
here's the thing. I didn't. Don't come out with money
to stop in wells. I want you to know that
I have stopping that. I didn't tell my mom or
dad about filming on Tuesday. I don't tell them when
(32:31):
I have photo shoots. I don't tell them when I'm filming.
I keep it now, I keep it completely secretive. And
if Spencer wants to tell them what's going on, then
that's fine. But before this, it would be like me
saying one thing and Spenser saying one thing, and my
mom just like this poor thing, just like coming on glued.
So now I just don't say anything about filming or anything.
(32:55):
And she's in charge of herself. I'm in charge of myself,
and you know what, I do not have a brother,
and I never had a sister in law. I get stumped,
wells because it's so complex. It's like normally somebody's like, hey,
my boyfriend's mean to me, Okay, break up with him.
You know, it's very cut and dry. This is so complicated,
(33:16):
and there's so much involvement with each other, tied with
their business, the family is tied. There is money, she's getting,
Spencer's getting support. There's all these tentacles to let's let's
make a family tree of problems. But here's the thing,
a wh who's the top of the family tree of problems? Heidi?
(33:38):
If you if a pyramid, if you will, who's the
top of the pyramid? Heid is the problem at the top.
Absolutely everything went south when he started dating that gold digger. Okay,
so then you have Heidi, and then your brother is
also an issue. He's fine telling Matt Heidi, Okay, who
(33:59):
else is My brother? Used to hang out my mom
and dad and I NonStop. How do you used to
tell him? It's not normal for a grown man to
invite their mother to lunch all the time. Why do
you have a relationship with them? You're married to me.
My mom called me crying years ago when my brother
told her that Heidi does not want Spencer to have
(34:22):
a relationship with anyone but her. You know it, That's fine.
I don't want a relationship with Spencer anymore, Gunner. Yes,
I will miss the fact that I'm gonna miss out
on the cutest, cutest, cutest cutest little boys early years,
but like, it's not worth it. Do you think you
(34:43):
and Heidi could have a heart to heart and dig
into this and work it out. No, because Heidi is
a fake person. She says that she lives by Jesus
and she's always praying for everyone. But at the same time,
she's playing my parents for money, playing me against my brother,
and also spending all of our money. Why to me?
(35:07):
And wells you jump in? Is it me? Or's money?
Just keep coming up? There's some sort of a money
issue because Heidi didn't have any How do you resolve
any of this? I don't. I go back to London.
It doesn't doesn't fix itself. I don't give it anymore.
When I first got here in October, I did and
I really thought I had a chance. I thought so too,
(35:29):
because there were moments when you were like, we're really good. Yeah,
I'm so excited. I was the happiest came on. People
should go back and listen to episode one. Like Spencer
and Heidi were getting on. I mean, sorry, Spencer and Staff,
we're getting all amazing, and I felt good about the
three of them. I also don't think that Spencer and
you are not getting along anymore. I feel like, you
(35:50):
know what, at this photo shoot there was a producer
on set. I kept on saying, Wow, Heidi always scales
at you. She doesn't like you, does she? And it's
a no. It was it was it was It was
a stylist production. Like it was not. It was a
photo shoot. It wasn't someone trying to get and then
(36:11):
to fix. No. And then my makeup artist also was like,
she's been a complete bitch to me all day. She
does not like me, and it's because she's seen Spencer
not and get on so well for two months and
every time I make him laugh it must be a
dagger in her heart. Can I ask the question I
(36:31):
think a lot of people are asking, is that is
this something that's a directive of MTV? Is this a
great storyline for you? Guys, No, this is me actually
exiting my family. And I hate to make you emotional.
It's not what I'm trying to do. I know, I
just want It's better me do it now than it.
(36:54):
Ha happened in Twitter, right, like have someone say something
means so like that's the question I think a lot
of people are gonna be asking, is is this not
a real thing? And it's okay, you're crying, so it's
very real. I've given them. I've tried to be nice
to her for ten years because I love my brother
(37:14):
and we used to be like but I can't. Even
when The Hills first started shooting, it got up to
a rocky point because I only was home for Christmas
and that was all I saw them, the New Hills.
And then a few weeks into filming, we started communicating more,
(37:41):
just the two of us and talking more, and I mean,
wells it was like I was back in high school
with him. I mean, I couldn't you saw me. I
couldn't have been happier and I was playing with Gunner
all the time. But that that that's it. What happened.
(38:06):
This is it? You just kid, It never it never changes.
They flipped this they flipped the switch on me and
I have no idea. And Bodie said the same thing
to me when we're at this photo shoot and I
was calling and Bodie goes, and Bodie and I don't
get along. Bodie goes, you know what, Stef, Like, this
is my problem with your brother, Like, I don't know
(38:26):
when he's mad, I don't know when we're in a fight.
I don't know what we're good. This is the real question.
Then are they doing what they think is best for TV? No,
because they promised my parents that they would not be outrageous,
that doesn't really mean anything to me. It sounds like
a lot of it would be really great. If I'm
(38:49):
angry at stuff this week, it would be really great.
I'm well as I'm telling you what we shot on
Tuesday was right after the photo shoot bullying. But none
of them you have understand why, Brody, Jason, Waller, brand Lee,
(39:10):
We're all in a green room and they're all saying, Steph,
is this normal? And my mom on speaker and we're
talking about Heidi like everything that we've known about it
for ten years, and everyone's just in awe and in shock.
I know, but I like where Wells is coming from.
Because here's the thing, there's a cast of ten people,
and you don't get on a magazine cover if you're
(39:33):
the nice one or the corner shy guy in the corner.
So is there a chance your brother is incredibly smart?
Is there a chance that this is all crafted so
that he is on the cover of US magazine instead
of Audrina or I don't know. I'm just playing note.
From what happened to him, I understand that, and that
(39:55):
makes perfect sense. But from the past what happened mean
he was on CNN's Most Hated list like above Ben Lauden,
below Suddam Hussein. I mean like he was so hated,
he had death threats. That's why he has so many
weapons now and he loves that he doesn't. I think
(40:16):
he got really fat. But I do think that he's
a smart enough guy to being like, no, I think
he's that guy. At the beginning, it was, and then
it took such a toll on him that he was
eating at the beach house and just like he was
in a very sad, dark place. I get that well.
So I don't know if if we talked to a
villain from the beast. They think it's cool, and then
(40:38):
it becomes Look, he was getting a hundred he was
getting a hundred thousand. Wells, he was getting a hundred
thousand dollars an episode and we'd have twenty episodes. Heid
he also got a hundred thousand. If someone told me
I'd be the villain for a hundred thousand, I would
take it. He took it, but the effects of it
after the show ended were so detrimental to his mental health.
(41:01):
I mean, like it was heartbreaking. We saw him paranoid,
so scared to even open his door for a pizza delivery.
I mean, he had a seal team like that. That's good.
You do not think that that's what's happening again, That's
what's crazy to me, because this whole story that you're
(41:22):
telling me very interesting. It makes zero sense to me.
Well that they came drunk to filming and that is
the real that's what you're chalking it up to. Is
there anyone because I'm just trying to be the voice
of the listener right now in my mind, my being
like super combative, I'm just great. My question is are
(41:42):
you in your mind doing what is in my mind
right now, which is this is bad, bleep crazy? What's happening? Yes?
So I'm completely like what's happening? And I'm insisting there
is some connection to money. It keeps. This is how
I always feel. I see them one day and we're cool.
I see them another day and we're in a fight.
(42:03):
And that's what Brodie was saying as well. They I
don't know what goes through their head, but they are
a team and one day in one dear, let's try
this exercise one more time. Okay, at first, ever, take
a breath. I want to know from anyone in the room.
We've got some other people in the room here, could
(42:25):
we Because I believe you and I want to support
you and I believe you, is there any culpability that
you will be willing to again acknowledge other than everybody
mooches off your parents, which I'm just gonna say it, Yeah,
do you guys need anything? I love your parents. These
are the nicest people and they're very private also, which
(42:47):
I feel bad because your parents are so private too,
and they get dragged into this. But let's dig into
Stephanie for a minute. Is there anything that we could
an a lie for your part in it? My part
in this. I don't have a part in this. London
to get away from that great I'm a big empathy guy,
(43:09):
walk a mile in your shoes, that type of person.
It's an interesting it's an interesting concept. What do you
think Heidi or Spencer would say you are feeling right
now in this moment? Mm hmm. If if let's say
(43:30):
Tori is Spencer or Heidi and I and I said
to Tory or assistant toris here or assistant Tori here,
she's beautiful and wonderful. I don't know her so much.
And I said, you're Spencer, okay, And I said, what
do you think that Steff is feeling in this moment
right now? What do you think that Spencer would respond
to with that question? And Steph you answer, try to
(43:54):
put yourself in Spencer's shoes after hearing all of this,
because she's crazy, she's bipolar, she needs to go back
to London. Okay, Okay, let's keep going with this. I
like where we're going with this. Finger he's angry, he's angry,
he's defending, he's defensive. What would same thing Tory is Heidi? Now, hardy,
(44:18):
what do you think that Steph is feeling right now,
now you answer that question, She's ruining your whole family, Spencer,
like they just need to cut a route so we
can have all their money. You think she'd say that.
I don't think she would say that. She would she
(44:40):
would you guys, I've been dealing with this for twelve years.
What would your mom say? Yeah, my mom, you're getting
nothing now. My mom would have a problem with it.
And then my dad because he doesn't lose he doesn't
want to lose my brother again, We'll say, Janet, you're
the problem. I'm going to divorce you, and I'm going
(45:00):
to give a Spenser whatever he wants because I'm not
losing my only son. Everyone. Family, it's the amount of therapy.
Why do you think I'm the London everyone take, I'm
only normal one. Let's take a break. Yeah, let's do it,
because I want Wells to talk about how wonderful Thrive
Market is. Thrive Market is like delicious, They're there is
(45:26):
the best their bone they're beef bone brothious. Basically save
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I love it. Well, what was your favorites. You gave
me a list of your five favorites. You love the
(45:48):
chicken box because I had the salmon boxed all I
saw that. I'm let me tell you, what do you
want the truth? I do? Dude, So okay, So if
you go I do like answers dot Com or whatever
twenty one and me and whatever. You know, you know
what I'm talking about. And so you do that and
it's like, oh, you're seven percent Jewish, and I was like, oh,
(46:09):
I know seven seven. Uh So I got that. Those
numbers that helped me none. But then there was other
website that I went to where you can put in
that raw data and then it tells you what your
problem is and they'll be like, dude, you are probably
going to have you have Silly Act disease. They think
you should go gluten free. And so I thinking that
(46:30):
I have a problem with gluten with my butt and
a lot of bread with garlic. It always makes me
nervous on your cooking wells when you rub that garlic
on it, do it? And so I did that and
guess what got it? So that's why on on Thrive
Market all paleo nothing but protein, no bread. I love
(46:54):
that place. I believe if you go to thrive market
dot com slash prad cast Eastern is It podcast, you
can see well favorites and if it's not up yet,
it will be up soon and you can just order
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pratt Cast that chicken cutlets we are, you know, I
(47:15):
think they're Gluten free crackers are some of the most
They'm called Molly's. The Molly's gluten free crackers are better
than gluten filled crackers. Okay, yeah, yeah, true, yeah, I
can't have regular crackers now because I'm so into the Molly's.
Because here's the thing. I actually I feel wounded listening
(47:38):
to your story, Like it makes me feel bad, and
there's no there's something I can say to make it right.
There's something that can be done to make it right.
It's okay, Honestly, I have a therapist. I made the
right decision for myself, which is removing myself from my family.
Is this what your therapists like, Hey, it would be
(47:59):
better if you just kind of like step away for
a second, Like what is the thought process on all?
My therapist would like them to come in to see them,
but that's never gonna happen, so that's okay at that,
So I just take her advice and and I know me,
I can't live in the same little villages them, you know.
(48:23):
And I was doing so well in London, and it
wasn't until I came back for This Hill's reshoot that
everything fell apart. It's impossible to do the show with
keeping my parents happy, so I just need to take
care of myself. And I I urge listeners to make
sure that you know that phrase put your oxygen mask
(48:50):
on first you can help. I like that analogy. I
think it is really true because I remember my therapist
being like, what would you do with Matt? Max is
my dog? And I'd be like, I put on Max's first,
of course, and that's yeah, you need to do yours
before you can help anyone else. And I told my mom,
I was like, if you can't deal with what I'm saying,
(49:13):
my needs are and and these are not only just
random needs, they're my emotional needs, physical needs, and I
mean it's like down to my mental health. If you
can't understand that, then we're not going to have a relationship.
Because I'm trying to survive. Not all is bad in
(49:35):
your world though, right now I would say that hang
out with you today. We had a nice young gentleman
that came up along our little one trip through Napple. Okay,
let me have a sip of my champagne so I
get happier drink. Let's just all do Oh my god,
(49:55):
good ridden's Pratt family and hello Path family. Don't don't talk.
I haven't said your name yet. I just said it.
Puff No, I haven't said it. I was made, made
the role. No, don't don't do that. Obviously, very obedient
(50:16):
tonyau of him to hold back like everyone's in dang it,
you said his name. Derek Paith is in the studio
right now. And by studio I mean a convention center
in Napa. Anyways, Um, there's there's actually like this is
(50:36):
kind of a live showing right now. It is everyone
gets to experience it. Block a horseman is here. That's
the weirdest last name ever. I hate, I hate your name.
Someone has a horseman last name. That's his name, Blake Horseman.
To marry you. Well, he alright, real quick, Stephanie horn
(51:00):
s men. That is literally like I've been flying this
kid out from New York. Blake was here the whole time. Anyways,
you guys have been on your second date today, But
was it thinking enough alone time? Yeah, we'll get that
tonight next couple of days. Next I'm leaving tomorrow and
(51:23):
so you guys are going to get to spend some
more time tonight. But how was it seeing Derek again?
Initial thoughts, nervousness, anxiousness. This is weird to do in person.
I was really excited. Okay, I gave big hug, but
then I heard the worst story. What was the story? Ever?
You don't hear what happened to him? Oh my god, Derek,
(51:46):
tell us, actually, I've already moved past this kind of
I know, but tell our listeners actually, like so sad.
So I flew in last night and I hung out
with Venmo John because he lives in San Francisco, So
I stayed there with him, and I like, it's so
weird calling him then John but John but John, and uh,
(52:07):
because he owes him money. That's probably why I know
them owes him money much much debt um Well, like
now I have debt to somewhere else, which is like
I went to my car this morning that I rented
and somebody broke in the back window and stole like
all of my clothes. You did a bad job playing
the story. You've done a bad job, Like how am
(52:32):
I supposed to tell this? Because you texted me and
you said, dude, I have lost the key. Yeah, so
first I thought I lost the key. Yes, so you
texted me that, which I did? You did do that?
I did do that? And then uh so, so like
first I called the car company, was like, hey, I
lost the keys, which is probably something that happens a
(52:53):
lot for sure, because they were like ready with it.
They were like, here's what's going to happen next. And
then I walked to the car like ten minutes later,
and I saw a back window is broken in and
all of my stuff was just Pierre gone. So I'm
wearing the same clothes pretty much. You're being really nice
about it. It's very my laptop, so like I'm sure
(53:17):
there's like financial stuff on his well nothing like so gone.
Basically everyone that invested in you is screwed. I carry
a bag of cash with me exports. I'm not someone
that's on their laptop a lot from work. Like I
(53:37):
know obviously that everyone else is so you guys went
on the first date and then you went on a
second date he got robbed. Yeah, this is like it's
it's the universe is saying things here. We should not date.
Just obviously, there's really a thing you can say. Oh,
(53:58):
they're holding him and I'm in the middle of it.
I'm holding with him. You want to get your hand
off our This is weird. Take my hand away. Every well. Um, So,
I think I think the thing that we need do
is that next episode, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I want to say this. I want to say this
(54:19):
because I had, like this really crappy thing happened to me, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Steph did for like ten fifteen minutes make
sure that I was okay today, which is super cute.
It's like a really nice things. It's not like not
everybody does that. You know. What I'm excited about in
terms of this thing is that nothing's happened so far.
(54:43):
Don't wink at me. I saw that nothing has happened
so far tonight. But I think the next episode we're
gonna have a real good Yeah. We don't like is
that audience? Yeah? Sorry, wells, we'll invite you next time.
Well has not moved his mouth. He's so upset. That's
(55:08):
my question, Derek Venmo John is your buddy and he's
here and doesn't have a room right now. Do I
need to get him one? Or am I good to go?
Are you basically saying him? Derek say that wasn't a
question for me. Derek can stay with me. I don't
(55:33):
worry about that. You'll never see any skin perfect. I'm like,
the thing that is the most disgusting to me is
skin what okay, joke, I'm happy about that. Do you know?
You know what's knowing about you guys. I love how
you're holding the mic a scary story because you guys
(55:55):
are the most nerdy people. I'm not nerdy. I'm cool. Yeah, totally.
You guys are the coolest you all remember met in
Lina Tarla and you guys have a and I love
you guys so much. Uh, we gotta go. Well as
you're silly shows over Yeah. Follow Pratt cast on I
(56:20):
Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcasts.
This is I Heart Radios Pradcast with Stephanie Pratt and
Wells Adams live from Nappa The Pradcast, Wells Adam, steph
Pratt hanging out. We're in a ballroom right now. I
suppose I don't know. We've been drinking on a train, yes,
because they don't remember. We've been on the Napa Valley
Wine train and now we're at the River Terrace. Inner.
(00:25):
Remember I'm not I'm actually pretty. You're a bit drunk
on the trains the show, dude? Oh yeah, I'm totally
sober too. Okay, Yeah, this is a super podcast. Just
watched the Hills promo video that's on your Instagra. Yes,
(00:46):
that came out on Monday. Feel the rain on your skin.
That's how it sounds. It's exactly how it sounds. Nailed it,
we God, damn it, Wells we you nailed it. Yes.
I was going to answer, but like, yeah, that was
(01:06):
a that was amazing all right. By the way, a
lot of stock footage. Not proud of it, all right,
I want to see new stuff. This is what I
found out. What's going on? Okay. It made me feel
a lot of things, a lot of emotions of things.
I don't know what you're doing with your face right now.
A lot of things must stomach. I think you're still
(01:26):
doing with your face. Made me feel a lot of things,
But then what kind of things? Emotions? Happy, sad, like sad, happy, elated, excited,
and most of all, June, what date twenty fock dear Jesus,
(01:47):
that this show is actually gonna happen alright day, June mona, No,
it's fine, really long when I say it this way,
but we are eleven short weeks away from having the
Hills New Beginning. I just want everyone to know that
when we started this podcast, we thought it was going
to come out in March. Okay, you guys have gone
(02:10):
on in in a very long journey with us, and I
appreciate it. What our hope is is that everyone listening
just continues with us for eleven more weeks it's gonna
be and then we're really going to bring the fire.
But if you could tell three friends to also tune
in for the next eleven weeks, forget that. I'm ready
to spill all the beans before you do that. For me,
(02:31):
I've already filmed the whole series. I'm ready to dish
before you do that. What I found interesting about the
video that you posted on your Instagram, stopped doing that
what you're doing because it's distracted. What I found interesting
about what you posted was in that video, that intro
video for the Hills New Beginnings. You know who's in
(02:53):
the middle, you, oh, in the photo. It's a video
and at the end of the video it's everyone in
the cast and who's in the middle. You and Brodie
are the two people in the middle of the video,
which makes me interested because if I was a producer,
I would put the two most important people in the
(03:15):
middle of my intro video. Well god, that that puts
me in an awkward position. Wells how because I like
to be modest and humble. But yeah, for sure you
saw that. I saw it right, Okay, good cool, I
bring the drama. But here's the problem. Like it was
(03:37):
literally by default, because every no, no, no, nothing happens
by default and reality TV. I'm sorry this does because
I've been on reality TV for ten years. There was
only one year that I was off reality TV. So
when I left Maid in Chelsea to do The Hills,
I am still in this frame of my whole life
(03:57):
is on TV. Like, don't hide anythinging like, you know,
you have to confront everything, blah blah blah. But everyone
else who haven't they haven't been on TV for eight years,
so they're coming on the show and they're like, you know,
some of them have kids that they're married, but they're like,
this is my comeback and I want my image to
(04:20):
be a certain way. So the majority of the all right,
everyone but me basically is holding back, and you know,
they want to put the right information out that they
feel comfortable with, which is like totally understandable and it
doesn't make for a reality show. Yeah, step this is
(04:41):
the worst way to explain what I brought up, which
is you're in the middle of a photo shoot. Let's
race all that. Okay, go on. What you said had
nothing to do with the fact that producers are like, okay,
we need Steph and Brody in the middle of this food.
I'm saying I brought it. Brodie brought it. So yeah,
(05:03):
let me ask you that does Brodie bring it? Brodie
doesn't bring it. He denies and lines about everything that's
going on in his life, so he does bring it,
but his directly. But yes, Brodie's story is going to
be like the main story on the Hills. I think
people will be shocked at how he lives his life. However, okay,
(05:28):
that was a promise to producers, and he took a
while to sign his contract, and I assume this was
why because he wasn't the press. He was saying that
he wanted to, you know, share all this world law,
so he waited for the whatever fee that he got it.
And by the way, I'm getting paid the least everyone.
I just wanted to know, how do you know that?
How would you know? Duh? I asked everyone? Okay, and
(05:54):
everyone loved telling me how much more they make them me,
And I was like, do you want to throw out
a number? No, but like, let's just say I'm getting
a fourth of what people are getting because I was
supporting casts on the original one. But here's me. You
know who's in the middle of that intro video Me? Yeah, yeah,
(06:14):
So what are you going to try? And like, oh
my god, season two, I'm asking for a palace. So
I can't imagine that Heidi and Spencer don't bring it.
They don't. Heidi is at home with Gunner and protecting,
protecting her image. Spencers out there being as nice as
(06:36):
he can look with like his crystals and good energy.
So I feel I sense a little animosity towards your
brother and Heidi right now. Yes, we are not on
good terms. We are not on speaking terms. I do
not consider them my family. This is so weird because
when we started the show you were like, we're doing good.
The first episode was with Spence. We were great, we
(07:01):
were absolutely great. And what had happened Heidi? Heidi? We
had our photo shoots for press and for the opening titles.
We had three days of it that went to like
three am. There were long shoots and Heidi I had
(07:22):
a bottle of champagne that she gave all the girls
except for me. Why not you? I don't know, And
I asked Spencer. I was like, we're literally in the
middle of a photo shoot, all standing in a living
room like taking photos, and She's like, Trea, I do
you want to refill? Whitney came get a refill and
I'm like can I I'm family, like, why can't I
(07:45):
have a glass? And she just would blank me. And
then as I went on, my brother looked over and
gave me like thumbs up, like a you okay. Because
we were in such a good place you wanted to
check on me because it had been like a twelve
hour day already. And I looked at and I was
like no. I was like, why aren't you letting me
have champagne? And he goes out loud. He's like, this
(08:06):
is Heide's deal. This is Heide's deal. And she's hugging sponsor.
So she's literally like ten inches in front of me,
but her back is to me. My brother is looking
at me saying this heids alcohol. She got it from Postmates.
She does not turn around. Can we insert the Postmates
add right here? We were like in a house in
(08:26):
the hills, like and the hills was like very hills.
Can I ask a question? Is she worried about your drinking?
I'm not an alcoholic? So what is your take on this?
Then she's okay, So Whitney, sweet Whitney, like is mouthing
(08:47):
to me. This is weird? Is this normal? Because she
keeps inviting everyone free refills and I'm saying, my brother,
I'm family, why can't I have a drink? Can I
ask the question that think a lot of people are
probably asking right now, why didn't you confront Heidi and
say why am I not involved in the alcohol because
(09:09):
of my parents. And you know what, and that's that
is the last time I'm putting my parents as the
priority part of this relationship. Okay, I respect that answer,
but I don't understand it fully. What does that mean? Like,
because your parents and your brother have been in through
(09:29):
so much that you were just like, I just don't care.
What does that mean? Okay, so ever since my brother
and Heidi started dating, they're on the hills. I don't know.
Hopefully some of you guys are Hills Watchers viewers. They
went a wall and they were fired from the show,
and they moved to Costa Rica, as you do, right,
(09:53):
and they got arrested for legal weapons. So when that happened,
my dad got them a private jet, flew them into
Santa Barbara, moved them to our beach house. And again like,
I had a memoir that I wrote. It was a
Sunday Times best seller. It's called Made in Reality. But anyways,
this book and came books actually very juicy, all order
(10:16):
for you right now Amazon, Sunday Times forst seller. But
I wasn't allowed to say any of this because at
this point I was working for my parents, and what
that means is I was trying to keep the peace.
But here's what really happened. They had illegal weapons. They
got arrested in Costa Rica. They called my father after
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three years of not speaking to any of us, we
had all of our locks changed. It was not a
good situation, and so my dad hears from him he's
arrested in Costa Rica, gets him a private jet, flies
him to Santa Barbara and moves him into our beach house. Temporarily.
They lived there for seven years. Not only do they
(11:01):
live there, but Heidi had the goal to read you
my mom's walking closet. My sister called me. Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait you guys, no one
knows the real Heidi. No, I love. This is an
amazing story. Did your mom want a new walk in clothing? No?
So here's the thing for the news the beginnings. My
(11:25):
mom and my brother and I all sat down and
we said we will not let this ruin our family again. Yeah.
How long did that last? Last week? Okay? I'm done. Yeah,
I don't care. I'm not protecting them anymore. Who my
brother and Heidi? Okay, so here's the thing I did. Okay,
(11:50):
everyone should actually have this in mind. You have to
put on your oxygen mask before you put on someone else's,
and now is the like number one of self care.
So that's what I'm doing right now. If my mom
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can't handle this, that's her issue, and I cannot help her.
I'm thirty three. So what I'm doing to make it
easier for her is I'm not discussing anything I do
with work to her. It's completely off limits, off boundaries.
I'm not doing anymore. But I'm also not going to
(12:31):
pretend that Spencer and Heidi are good people. Okay, like
I was doing for most of the series for my parents,
but with the behavior that I've seen, not the behavior
that i've seen for they have done to me recently,
I'm done. This is why I moved to London. I'm done.
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I cannot live near them. They're the most toxic people
I've ever met. They are Bonnie and Clyde till they die.
So if they say the sky is black, all of
us are morons. Were saying it's blue, okay, And I'm done.
(13:16):
I'm done. I'm I'm confident and secure enough in myself
to not pussy foot around them. Like I'm done. I'm
going to expose them for who they are. Just to
take the contrarian side here, I would imagine that a
(13:37):
lot of people are saying, well, in a couple episodes ago,
you were saying how great your brother was, and how
great hard he was, and how great everything was in
your own No, no, I always say how great my
brother is. I've never said how great Hidie is. Valid
what happened my brother met Hidi Well? I don't know
how much to say after that. If you ever have
(14:00):
a son Wells, I pray that he does not meet
a hiding Montag. Wow, because what hiding Montag does? She
has played my family for money. When my mom said
what do you want from Costco? Toilet paper, paper, Twells,
(14:22):
she said a treadmill. She slept to my parents room
in the beach house that they built, had closets by design.
Come and read you my mother's walk in, took out
the bathtub in the bathroom and installed another closet with
my family knowing no on my dad's credit card. Yes,
(14:47):
I've never known anyone to be so entitled and have
so much goal. And you know what, like this feels
so therapeutic right now because I'm so tired of protecting
her going to happen? No, really, no, I'm done with them.
I am so dumb. What about your parents? I don't care.
Here's my real question. I'm I'm very interested in this,
(15:10):
and uh, I find it very interesting that m women
find it very easy to attack other women. And I
wonder if like you're, you're you're going super hard in
the pain after Heidi? Is there any this is twelve
years coming well to your brother. I mean, I understand her,
(15:38):
and I'm not like dumb dumb, Like I understand that
when you get married, your wife becomes the most important
thing before family, before sibling, everything, and I love that.
I hope my future husband puts me before his family.
That's fair. I'm but when we first met Heidi, when
they first started dating, she said to my mom and
(16:01):
sister and I, she said, what do I need to
do to get attention from Spencer? Drowned chance? And that
was our goal and retriever dog that my brother were like,
was best friends with right now. So my he died
four years ago, but drowned no no, no, no, notural pussies.
(16:25):
But my mom and my sister and I all gave
each other look like, we will discuss this later. I
want to know though, because this is about to go live.
I don't know you're going to regret it. Absolutely not.
I'm so dumb protecting, But what about this is why
I moved to London, Amy. I understand many people have
difficult times with their sister in laws. I'm not gonna
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pretend they don't. Well, here's the thing. If I was
your mom and dad, don't care, hold on, hold on,
wait here, I was a sister in law. Well, sorry
to interrupts. If I was a sister in law and
my husband wasn't getting along with anyone in his family,
it would be my goal to make sure I got
(17:08):
them back together. Because family is everything. There wouldn't be
a month that would go by where I wouldn't reach
out to his sister or his brother or whoever he
was funing with and be like, this is ridiculous. Where
family at the end of all this, Like that's all
we have. She has never tried to do that. She's
(17:28):
the one that eggs on the fights. If you're listening
to this podcast, what people are hearing is there was
a photo shoot and Steph didn't get champagne, and that's
why sounds really silly, and it was everyone except from me,
(17:50):
and I was standing next to her. To me, it's
the straw that broke the camel's back. Totally understand. I
understand that, but I need we need context or you're
going to look like the villain in this situation. So
I need context for what the f happened? Give me
one other thing that made this thing not work? Does
(18:13):
that make sense? It is I have literally protected her
for ten years. I don't even think we have the
time for me to tell you everything. And we have
eleven episodes Heidi Part three. But so okay, if it
(18:34):
weren't for Heidi, I would have an epic relationship with
my brother, so with my parents. But Heidi does not
want my brother to be connected to my mom, dad
or me. Why not? Why do you think that is?
She needs all of his attention. What about your other
sister who I'm not going to say her name because
I'm friendly with your other sister and she's very private.
(18:56):
How is her relationship? And what about all the cousins,
because that's an important relationships. She's got kids. Anything Heidi
lets people see Gunner. Do you think my mom gets
to see Gunner. My parents bought them a house five
minutes away from their house. Do you think my mom
has ever invited to go up there and see Gunner
after the jet from Costa Rica? No kid time? Does
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that tell me? Well, they were in Santa Barbara for
seven years after the jet and then they had the babies,
like one and a half or something. Still that, No,
my mom is always crying to me, always crying to me,
and she's always saying to me, which makes me feel awful?
Is it's so different when it's not your daughter. What
(19:41):
is the fallout? And that makes me feel like, well,
like I need to have kids, like but I don't.
I'm not. It's so stress. There is another issue that
we could dig into many episodes from now where the
Mother of the Sun does have a bit of a
harder time with the grandchildren. The You would just think
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if someone had been supporting you financially for ten years,
put you up in their twenty million dollar beach house
and then a four million dollar house in the Palisades
when you were pregnant, you would say, come up, come
see the baby, or also, we're going on date night.
Couldn't you guys do a little babysitting, But I think
(20:23):
we'd also say that if we lived in an apartment
in you know what I mean. But what I'm saying
is that she doesn't want anyone to have any connection
to Spencer or two Gunner. Okay, so I realized that
she's trying to monopolize everyone's time. Here's another question. What
is the fallout going to be like when people hear
this horrible? Is it horrible? I guess? More importantly, I
(20:47):
don't really care about everybody else. I do love all
of the audience members, but I really care about what
your mom thinks of this and what Heidi will say this.
So what do you think answer in that question in
that way? What do you think your mom's going to
say when she hears all this? And then what do
(21:09):
you think Heidi will say? As of Tuesday, and Heidi
was horrific to me and all the girls at filming
Spencer's will if we had all the ID right now,
would they all be like, yeah, she's kind of being
honest about it? Oh god? Yeah. OK. I had to
call them all the next day and apologize on behalf
(21:30):
of my family. So you're doing pretty well getting along
with Audrina and all of them, and I had to
call all of them the next day, did you damage Control?
Because they were so horrible. They hadn't seen that side
of Heidi, and I was like, well, that's what I've
been living with for ten years. That's why I moved
to London. People will we see? I guess So that
(21:51):
Tuesday night. The next morning I woke up and if
it was like when I first landed in l a
in October, I would have been and devastated, crying like
a complete mess, which I was for the beginning of
filming the series October November, December. But now it's gone
(22:12):
on so long and I'm I'd be fine to protect
them forever. But the last couple of months is just
a reminder with like what she's been doing, of how
awful this person is. Let me remind you that she
(22:32):
was in high school watching The guna Beach and she said,
I'm going to be a famous pop star. I'm gonna
move to San Francisco, go to fit hum, find Lauren Conrad,
and become famous. She did what she's been calculating since
she was what fifteen? Did she ever like Lauren Conrad? No,
(22:55):
she made up a rumor that she had a sex tape.
What do you think that Heidi would say if she
was sitting in that chair right now hearing all this, Oh,
should be denying it. Duh, Yeah, what would she say? Well,
she'd asked my brother talk for her. She likes my brother.
What would your brother say for Heidi? For what you
(23:16):
had to say? My brother would be like, get out
of her Sephanie, like you're not part of our family,
blah blah. But you know what, I'm taking myself out
of my family. And my mom said to me because
I never told her about what happened on Tuesday night,
I was just like, you know what for this for
my life to continue being balanced, and I struggle with
(23:38):
depression and anxiety, and I have bipolar depression. For me
to be okay and do this not only obviously Samui medication,
but I cannot have everyone's back, I cannot worry about
everyone else. I need to worry about myself. I need
(23:58):
to put my oxygen mask on first. And I told
my mom, I said, I'm not going to tell you
about work anymore. When I'm in London, I never tell
you about work. So we're going to communicate as if
I'm in London still, how she wants to take the
information that's on her. I do not control her. I
only can control my perception and my attitude. I do
(24:23):
feel for your mom. She's in quite a predicament because
she has two children on the same show that is
about relationships and family and life, and of course it's
going to explode. But again, it was going great and
sul Heidi, I just want your mom to hang out
with her grandkids. That's all I care about. And the
fact that you're saying so I don't know if this
(24:45):
is true or not, but if she's not hanging with
her grandkid, then that's a problem. No, it's heartbreaking. So
I'm gonna play the tough right now. It's really sad,
and that's the only thing I'm really upset about. Is
Like the next day when I was talking to the producers,
I was like, they're like, are you okay, And I
was like, yeah, Like they're dead to me. I'm done.
Like I'm going back to Lyndon. It's all good, but
(25:06):
like I'm going to really miss Gunner. So let's dig
into it. I know this is gonna be hard. Typically
what I've learned in my forty five years, is that
we we do play some role in conflict, even if
we're certain the other person is to blame or the
other person is wrong. So for a minute, with Wells,
(25:28):
can you dig into is there any element that you
can take responsibility for? Yes, that I also use my
parents money, and Heidi wants it all to herself. Is
there enough money? They're like, I just like, can I can?
But here's what I think is funny about that, because
(25:51):
I know, I think I know what if you live
in there, if you're living the hills, there's a certain
amount of money that you want. Is that in the will?
Is that even a realistic possibility out of the will?
(26:12):
Because of how horrific he is human? But do you
understand what I'm asking here? Is she wants something that
might not exist. She might want seven and now and
it might be there. Is it a ridiculous thing that
she wants? No, she's getting everything. What about my parents
(26:34):
are very well? What about you and Spencer making it
for yourselves? No, you not need to dig into that.
It is always Heidi is always number one Spencer, So
you know what, Spencer is dead to me. But let's
say that's the only way I can handle it. You
just said. People are going to say, well, you're taking
(26:58):
the easy way out because you're going in reality TV
and you are half baked reality t V star or whatever,
and you're using that way to get fame and get money,
and that's faking it. Anyways, I get that. But my
thing is fine, if they want to go on TV
and you want to go on TV and become quote
successful and you know, have whatever product do you want
(27:21):
on your Instagram or start whatever businesses you want and
make money yourselves, I think that might help everybody rather
than being so dependent on on their parents. Okay, I'm
not dependent on my parents. I moved to London and
I've been on a TV show, I've worked, I have
a jewelry line, I have a clothing line. I had
(27:43):
an nutrition company that I had to close in two
thousand seventeen because I was so busy. All I do
is hustle. I do not want anything for my parents,
like I'm doing this all to make them proud of me,
like I want to give everything back. I'm so grateful
that they have helped me, and I'm not denying in
(28:05):
any way that they don't give me money and they
haven't helped me buy my place in l A. They have,
but no, and I'm sure they're happy that they're able
to do that. It gives a parent a lot of
fulfillment to be able to help their children, I'm sure.
But I that think for your own self esteem, that's
what I It's for my self esteem. What do you
(28:25):
think your brother thinks about this? There's no way that
your brother doesn't doesn't see what's happening. If what you're
saying is true, If what you're saying is true, there's
no way that he doesn't perceive what's happening as well.
She's just trying to get that money that he doesn't see.
Because if it was me, you would be very emasculating, right,
(28:49):
like I'm not doing enough here for my girl. You're
dealing with someone that calls the Papa Rozzi on himself
every day. At least I'm fine with that because he's
doing that. He's been crafty and smart business. I actually
think he's smart about that kind of stuff. See that
that makes me embarrassed for him totally. But if what
(29:09):
he's trying to do is be in the public eye
and constantly being noticed and being in us magazine for
being a huge douche. But it doesn't really matter as
long as you're getting the exposure and the numbers are
going up, and his exposure is being because you think,
(29:32):
and if they're going to take a picture anyway, at
least getting a couple of bucks for it. Totally. So,
So what I'm trying to say is is that, like,
what you're saying is interesting if it's true, what do
you think he thinks about it? And I understand what
you're saying is like a guy that calls the paparazzi
on himself doesn't care either way. But I would imagine
that your brother doesn't like the idea of taking your
(29:55):
parents money. He much rather would take the parazi's money.
Does that make sense? Absolutely? But he made millions upon
millions and spent it all on crystals and on Heidi's
pop music career. They never bought a place, They never invested.
They never do you think that's who talks? Will you
(30:18):
both do it better this time? I've always I always
give my money to my dad, and I say invested,
I don't want to see it. That's why I own
a place in l a And that's why I can
afford to have an apartment in London. My brother is, um,
I don't know. I've been doing radio sixteen years old.
(30:44):
This is the hardest show of ever. It stumps me
every time I say that so serious. I think it's
also because it's so real and like this is it's
they have this show, but then they also have this
relationship and your sweet sweet parents are involved. Well. Actually
I was in a fight with my mom when I
landed here today. Tell us um, because I was going
(31:06):
back to London next week and I changed my plans
and I was like, I'm actually going to rent that
house and go back to Hawaii. And she said, oh,
I'm scared to tell your father about this, and I
was like, I'll tell him. And she was like, well,
how much was your ticket? And I was like, I
(31:26):
bought my own ticket. I'm paying for the rental. And
I was like, what's your deal and she was just like,
you know, seventy is just like so hard. And I
was like, you're not bankrolling me. Do not make me
feel guilty for going on a whole day so I
will go out of town and I said, and I
have no problem mom cutting you out if you want
(31:48):
to continue to make me feel guilty and shameful for
when I do something with my own money. I don't
need you, and she said, and she said, eight, if
you cut out me, then you've cut out the whole family. Yeah,
and he's but at times they have supported you. So
I think it's very confusing. Look, I would love to
(32:09):
be on good terms with my mom, love love to
but you got your family has a thing where you
guys like to use each other's relationship as leverage. Well,
here's the thing. I didn't. Don't come out with money
to stop in wells. I want you to know that
I have stopping that. I didn't tell my mom or
dad about filming on Tuesday. I don't tell them when
(32:31):
I have photo shoots. I don't tell them when I'm filming.
I keep it now, I keep it completely secretive. And
if Spencer wants to tell them what's going on, then
that's fine. But before this, it would be like me
saying one thing and Spenser saying one thing, and my
mom just like this poor thing, just like coming on glued.
So now I just don't say anything about filming or anything.
(32:55):
And she's in charge of herself. I'm in charge of myself,
and you know what, I do not have a brother,
and I never had a sister in law. I get stumped,
wells because it's so complex. It's like normally somebody's like, hey,
my boyfriend's mean to me, Okay, break up with him.
You know, it's very cut and dry. This is so complicated,
(33:16):
and there's so much involvement with each other, tied with
their business, the family is tied. There is money, she's getting,
Spencer's getting support. There's all these tentacles to let's let's
make a family tree of problems. But here's the thing,
a wh who's the top of the family tree of problems? Heidi?
(33:38):
If you if a pyramid, if you will, who's the
top of the pyramid? Heid is the problem at the top.
Absolutely everything went south when he started dating that gold digger. Okay,
so then you have Heidi, and then your brother is
also an issue. He's fine telling Matt Heidi, Okay, who
(33:59):
else is My brother? Used to hang out my mom
and dad and I NonStop. How do you used to
tell him? It's not normal for a grown man to
invite their mother to lunch all the time. Why do
you have a relationship with them? You're married to me.
My mom called me crying years ago when my brother
told her that Heidi does not want Spencer to have
(34:22):
a relationship with anyone but her. You know it, That's fine.
I don't want a relationship with Spencer anymore, Gunner. Yes,
I will miss the fact that I'm gonna miss out
on the cutest, cutest, cutest cutest little boys early years,
but like, it's not worth it. Do you think you
(34:43):
and Heidi could have a heart to heart and dig
into this and work it out. No, because Heidi is
a fake person. She says that she lives by Jesus
and she's always praying for everyone. But at the same time,
she's playing my parents for money, playing me against my brother,
and also spending all of our money. Why to me?
(35:07):
And wells you jump in? Is it me? Or's money?
Just keep coming up? There's some sort of a money
issue because Heidi didn't have any How do you resolve
any of this? I don't. I go back to London.
It doesn't doesn't fix itself. I don't give it anymore.
When I first got here in October, I did and
I really thought I had a chance. I thought so too,
(35:29):
because there were moments when you were like, we're really good. Yeah,
I'm so excited. I was the happiest came on. People
should go back and listen to episode one. Like Spencer
and Heidi were getting on. I mean, sorry, Spencer and Staff,
we're getting all amazing, and I felt good about the
three of them. I also don't think that Spencer and
you are not getting along anymore. I feel like, you
(35:50):
know what, at this photo shoot there was a producer
on set. I kept on saying, Wow, Heidi always scales
at you. She doesn't like you, does she? And it's
a no. It was it was it was It was
a stylist production. Like it was not. It was a
photo shoot. It wasn't someone trying to get and then
(36:11):
to fix. No. And then my makeup artist also was like,
she's been a complete bitch to me all day. She
does not like me, and it's because she's seen Spencer
not and get on so well for two months and
every time I make him laugh it must be a
dagger in her heart. Can I ask the question I
(36:31):
think a lot of people are asking, is that is
this something that's a directive of MTV? Is this a
great storyline for you? Guys, No, this is me actually
exiting my family. And I hate to make you emotional.
It's not what I'm trying to do. I know, I
just want It's better me do it now than it.
(36:54):
Ha happened in Twitter, right, like have someone say something
means so like that's the question I think a lot
of people are gonna be asking, is is this not
a real thing? And it's okay, you're crying, so it's
very real. I've given them. I've tried to be nice
to her for ten years because I love my brother
(37:14):
and we used to be like but I can't. Even
when The Hills first started shooting, it got up to
a rocky point because I only was home for Christmas
and that was all I saw them, the New Hills.
And then a few weeks into filming, we started communicating more,
(37:41):
just the two of us and talking more, and I mean,
wells it was like I was back in high school
with him. I mean, I couldn't you saw me. I
couldn't have been happier and I was playing with Gunner
all the time. But that that that's it. What happened.
(38:06):
This is it? You just kid, It never it never changes.
They flipped this they flipped the switch on me and
I have no idea. And Bodie said the same thing
to me when we're at this photo shoot and I
was calling and Bodie goes, and Bodie and I don't
get along. Bodie goes, you know what, Stef, Like, this
is my problem with your brother, Like, I don't know
(38:26):
when he's mad, I don't know when we're in a fight.
I don't know what we're good. This is the real question.
Then are they doing what they think is best for TV? No,
because they promised my parents that they would not be outrageous,
that doesn't really mean anything to me. It sounds like
a lot of it would be really great. If I'm
(38:49):
angry at stuff this week, it would be really great.
I'm well as I'm telling you what we shot on
Tuesday was right after the photo shoot bullying. But none
of them you have understand why, Brody, Jason, Waller, brand Lee,
(39:10):
We're all in a green room and they're all saying, Steph,
is this normal? And my mom on speaker and we're
talking about Heidi like everything that we've known about it
for ten years, and everyone's just in awe and in shock.
I know, but I like where Wells is coming from.
Because here's the thing, there's a cast of ten people,
and you don't get on a magazine cover if you're
(39:33):
the nice one or the corner shy guy in the corner.
So is there a chance your brother is incredibly smart?
Is there a chance that this is all crafted so
that he is on the cover of US magazine instead
of Audrina or I don't know. I'm just playing note.
From what happened to him, I understand that, and that
(39:55):
makes perfect sense. But from the past what happened mean
he was on CNN's Most Hated list like above Ben Lauden,
below Suddam Hussein. I mean like he was so hated,
he had death threats. That's why he has so many
weapons now and he loves that he doesn't. I think
(40:16):
he got really fat. But I do think that he's
a smart enough guy to being like, no, I think
he's that guy. At the beginning, it was, and then
it took such a toll on him that he was
eating at the beach house and just like he was
in a very sad, dark place. I get that well.
So I don't know if if we talked to a
villain from the beast. They think it's cool, and then
(40:38):
it becomes Look, he was getting a hundred he was
getting a hundred thousand. Wells, he was getting a hundred
thousand dollars an episode and we'd have twenty episodes. Heid
he also got a hundred thousand. If someone told me
I'd be the villain for a hundred thousand, I would
take it. He took it, but the effects of it
after the show ended were so detrimental to his mental health.
(41:01):
I mean, like it was heartbreaking. We saw him paranoid,
so scared to even open his door for a pizza delivery.
I mean, he had a seal team like that. That's good.
You do not think that that's what's happening again, That's
what's crazy to me, because this whole story that you're
(41:22):
telling me very interesting. It makes zero sense to me.
Well that they came drunk to filming and that is
the real that's what you're chalking it up to. Is
there anyone because I'm just trying to be the voice
of the listener right now in my mind, my being
like super combative, I'm just great. My question is are
(41:42):
you in your mind doing what is in my mind
right now, which is this is bad, bleep crazy? What's happening? Yes?
So I'm completely like what's happening? And I'm insisting there
is some connection to money. It keeps. This is how
I always feel. I see them one day and we're cool.
I see them another day and we're in a fight.
(42:03):
And that's what Brodie was saying as well. They I
don't know what goes through their head, but they are
a team and one day in one dear, let's try
this exercise one more time. Okay, at first, ever, take
a breath. I want to know from anyone in the room.
We've got some other people in the room here, could
(42:25):
we Because I believe you and I want to support
you and I believe you, is there any culpability that
you will be willing to again acknowledge other than everybody
mooches off your parents, which I'm just gonna say it, Yeah,
do you guys need anything? I love your parents. These
are the nicest people and they're very private also, which
(42:47):
I feel bad because your parents are so private too,
and they get dragged into this. But let's dig into
Stephanie for a minute. Is there anything that we could
an a lie for your part in it? My part
in this. I don't have a part in this. London
to get away from that great I'm a big empathy guy,
(43:09):
walk a mile in your shoes, that type of person.
It's an interesting it's an interesting concept. What do you
think Heidi or Spencer would say you are feeling right
now in this moment? Mm hmm. If if let's say
(43:30):
Tori is Spencer or Heidi and I and I said
to Tory or assistant toris here or assistant Tori here,
she's beautiful and wonderful. I don't know her so much.
And I said, you're Spencer, okay, And I said, what
do you think that Steff is feeling in this moment
right now? What do you think that Spencer would respond
to with that question? And Steph you answer, try to
(43:54):
put yourself in Spencer's shoes after hearing all of this,
because she's crazy, she's bipolar, she needs to go back
to London. Okay, Okay, let's keep going with this. I
like where we're going with this. Finger he's angry, he's angry,
he's defending, he's defensive. What would same thing Tory is Heidi? Now, hardy,
(44:18):
what do you think that Steph is feeling right now,
now you answer that question, She's ruining your whole family, Spencer,
like they just need to cut a route so we
can have all their money. You think she'd say that.
I don't think she would say that. She would she
(44:40):
would you guys, I've been dealing with this for twelve years.
What would your mom say? Yeah, my mom, you're getting
nothing now. My mom would have a problem with it.
And then my dad because he doesn't lose he doesn't
want to lose my brother again, We'll say, Janet, you're
the problem. I'm going to divorce you, and I'm going
(45:00):
to give a Spenser whatever he wants because I'm not
losing my only son. Everyone. Family, it's the amount of therapy.
Why do you think I'm the London everyone take, I'm
only normal one. Let's take a break. Yeah, let's do it,
because I want Wells to talk about how wonderful Thrive
Market is. Thrive Market is like delicious, They're there is
(45:26):
the best their bone they're beef bone brothious. Basically save
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bunch of percentage of when skin masks, by the way,
I love it. Well, what was your favorites. You gave
me a list of your five favorites. You love the
(45:48):
chicken box because I had the salmon boxed all I
saw that. I'm let me tell you, what do you
want the truth? I do? Dude, So okay, So if
you go I do like answers dot Com or whatever
twenty one and me and whatever. You know, you know
what I'm talking about. And so you do that and
it's like, oh, you're seven percent Jewish, and I was like, oh,
(46:09):
I know seven seven. Uh So I got that. Those
numbers that helped me none. But then there was other
website that I went to where you can put in
that raw data and then it tells you what your
problem is and they'll be like, dude, you are probably
going to have you have Silly Act disease. They think
you should go gluten free. And so I thinking that
(46:30):
I have a problem with gluten with my butt and
a lot of bread with garlic. It always makes me
nervous on your cooking wells when you rub that garlic
on it, do it? And so I did that and
guess what got it? So that's why on on Thrive
Market all paleo nothing but protein, no bread. I love
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that place. I believe if you go to thrive market
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can see well favorites and if it's not up yet,
it will be up soon and you can just order
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pratt Cast that chicken cutlets we are, you know, I
(47:15):
think they're Gluten free crackers are some of the most
They'm called Molly's. The Molly's gluten free crackers are better
than gluten filled crackers. Okay, yeah, yeah, true, yeah, I
can't have regular crackers now because I'm so into the Molly's.
Because here's the thing. I actually I feel wounded listening
(47:38):
to your story, Like it makes me feel bad, and
there's no there's something I can say to make it right.
There's something that can be done to make it right.
It's okay, Honestly, I have a therapist. I made the
right decision for myself, which is removing myself from my family.
Is this what your therapists like, Hey, it would be
(47:59):
better if you just kind of like step away for
a second, Like what is the thought process on all?
My therapist would like them to come in to see them,
but that's never gonna happen, so that's okay at that,
So I just take her advice and and I know me,
I can't live in the same little villages them, you know.
(48:23):
And I was doing so well in London, and it
wasn't until I came back for This Hill's reshoot that
everything fell apart. It's impossible to do the show with
keeping my parents happy, so I just need to take
care of myself. And I I urge listeners to make
sure that you know that phrase put your oxygen mask
(48:50):
on first you can help. I like that analogy. I
think it is really true because I remember my therapist
being like, what would you do with Matt? Max is
my dog? And I'd be like, I put on Max's first,
of course, and that's yeah, you need to do yours
before you can help anyone else. And I told my mom,
I was like, if you can't deal with what I'm saying,
(49:13):
my needs are and and these are not only just
random needs, they're my emotional needs, physical needs, and I
mean it's like down to my mental health. If you
can't understand that, then we're not going to have a relationship.
Because I'm trying to survive. Not all is bad in
(49:35):
your world though, right now I would say that hang
out with you today. We had a nice young gentleman
that came up along our little one trip through Napple. Okay,
let me have a sip of my champagne so I
get happier drink. Let's just all do Oh my god,
(49:55):
good ridden's Pratt family and hello Path family. Don't don't talk.
I haven't said your name yet. I just said it.
Puff No, I haven't said it. I was made, made
the role. No, don't don't do that. Obviously, very obedient
(50:16):
tonyau of him to hold back like everyone's in dang it,
you said his name. Derek Paith is in the studio
right now. And by studio I mean a convention center
in Napa. Anyways, Um, there's there's actually like this is
(50:36):
kind of a live showing right now. It is everyone
gets to experience it. Block a horseman is here. That's
the weirdest last name ever. I hate, I hate your name.
Someone has a horseman last name. That's his name, Blake Horseman.
To marry you. Well, he alright, real quick, Stephanie horn
(51:00):
s men. That is literally like I've been flying this
kid out from New York. Blake was here the whole time. Anyways,
you guys have been on your second date today, But
was it thinking enough alone time? Yeah, we'll get that
tonight next couple of days. Next I'm leaving tomorrow and
(51:23):
so you guys are going to get to spend some
more time tonight. But how was it seeing Derek again?
Initial thoughts, nervousness, anxiousness. This is weird to do in person.
I was really excited. Okay, I gave big hug, but
then I heard the worst story. What was the story? Ever?
You don't hear what happened to him? Oh my god, Derek,
(51:46):
tell us, actually, I've already moved past this kind of
I know, but tell our listeners actually, like so sad.
So I flew in last night and I hung out
with Venmo John because he lives in San Francisco, So
I stayed there with him, and I like, it's so
weird calling him then John but John but John, and uh,
(52:07):
because he owes him money. That's probably why I know
them owes him money much much debt um Well, like
now I have debt to somewhere else, which is like
I went to my car this morning that I rented
and somebody broke in the back window and stole like
all of my clothes. You did a bad job playing
the story. You've done a bad job, Like how am
(52:32):
I supposed to tell this? Because you texted me and
you said, dude, I have lost the key. Yeah, so
first I thought I lost the key. Yes, so you
texted me that, which I did? You did do that?
I did do that? And then uh so, so like
first I called the car company, was like, hey, I
lost the keys, which is probably something that happens a
(52:53):
lot for sure, because they were like ready with it.
They were like, here's what's going to happen next. And
then I walked to the car like ten minutes later,
and I saw a back window is broken in and
all of my stuff was just Pierre gone. So I'm
wearing the same clothes pretty much. You're being really nice
about it. It's very my laptop, so like I'm sure
(53:17):
there's like financial stuff on his well nothing like so gone.
Basically everyone that invested in you is screwed. I carry
a bag of cash with me exports. I'm not someone
that's on their laptop a lot from work. Like I
(53:37):
know obviously that everyone else is so you guys went
on the first date and then you went on a
second date he got robbed. Yeah, this is like it's
it's the universe is saying things here. We should not date.
Just obviously, there's really a thing you can say. Oh,
(53:58):
they're holding him and I'm in the middle of it.
I'm holding with him. You want to get your hand
off our This is weird. Take my hand away. Every well. Um, So,
I think I think the thing that we need do
is that next episode, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I want to say this. I want to say this
(54:19):
because I had, like this really crappy thing happened to me, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Steph did for like ten fifteen minutes make
sure that I was okay today, which is super cute.
It's like a really nice things. It's not like not
everybody does that. You know. What I'm excited about in
terms of this thing is that nothing's happened so far.
(54:43):
Don't wink at me. I saw that nothing has happened
so far tonight. But I think the next episode we're
gonna have a real good Yeah. We don't like is
that audience? Yeah? Sorry, wells, we'll invite you next time.
Well has not moved his mouth. He's so upset. That's
(55:08):
my question, Derek Venmo John is your buddy and he's
here and doesn't have a room right now. Do I
need to get him one? Or am I good to go?
Are you basically saying him? Derek say that wasn't a
question for me. Derek can stay with me. I don't
(55:33):
worry about that. You'll never see any skin perfect. I'm like,
the thing that is the most disgusting to me is
skin what okay, joke, I'm happy about that. Do you know?
You know what's knowing about you guys. I love how
you're holding the mic a scary story because you guys
(55:55):
are the most nerdy people. I'm not nerdy. I'm cool. Yeah, totally.
You guys are the coolest you all remember met in
Lina Tarla and you guys have a and I love
you guys so much. Uh, we gotta go. Well as
you're silly shows over Yeah. Follow Pratt cast on I
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