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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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be sick? Get the air Robernardista in Instagram? You mean
every other Thursday at three pm Eastern time, we can
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Yes, join ar Bernard on Instagram live every other Thursday
at three pm Eastern NA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
What are your gifts and how can you use them
to glorify God? So you have to identify the graces
in your life, the gifts in your life, those talents
and abilities that God has given you. Jesus understood that
everything he did was powered by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Welcome to aar Bernard Ministries. You were about to hear
from aar Bernard, one of today's most influential voices in ministry,
a best selling author and charismatic teacher of spirit led truth,
today's thought provoking mess. That captivating word will empower you spiritually,
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Today. Joining Doctor Bernard is his son pastor Jamal Bernard.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Jesus said, you heard that it was said, But I
say to you that forced me to go back and
read some of the things that Jesus said. I was
taught in that context that God loves Christians and hates sinners.
So he loved the believer, but hates the world. And
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then I go back and read Jesus's comments and read
the scripture that God benevolently is common grace. God benevolently
loves the world. He doesn't hate the world, all right.
So I learned the difference between God's common grace, his
benevolence towards the righteous, the unrighteous and the righteous, the
the good and the evil in the world. He just
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he poured out his blessings. Paul puts it this way
so beautifully in Acts chapter fourteen, verse fifteen through seventeen.
He says that God allowed the nations to go their
own way, right to develop on their own. But in
fact He allowed them to develop on their own. I
was going to try to decide whether to read the
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text or just paraphrase it, to develop on their own,
establish their own systems of government and religious belief systems
and moral systems.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
All right, but he didn't leave them without witness the apostle.
Paul says, there, he gave them rains, the crops, gave
them joy, he gave them the experience of love. He
restrained let me, he put it this way, all right.
He gave them rain, sun, prosperity, health, happiness, natural capacities
and gifts.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
He restrained sin on.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Their behalf, even though they didn't realize it, from having
complete dominion over them and destroy them. And that helped
me understand God's sovereignty and God's providence and how it
works through human history because I was handed a lens
that's with them and us. It's it's us the believers,
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whom God loves. And if y'all out there you sin,
it's going to hell. But God loves people, and we
have to learn to love people whether they are in
relationship with God, because all of us were at one time.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And well, Paul Silken says that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, so I understood the difference between common grace, right
and God's saving grace. His common grace, which is his
love for all humanity and his benevolence towards all humanity,
and his saving grace which is that unique loving relationship
that God has with those who are in relationship with
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Him through Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So good, and you won't come to realization if you're
not connected with the word that's right, because when you
see the Old Testament, what you're seeing is God's administration
of his common grace and his saving grace.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And this helped me understand power because I would say,
how could God let people? Remember, power is the ability
to influence people, events and outcomes. And I would say, well,
how could God allow certain people in power? How could
he allow certain nations to develop in a certain way?
And their power is self destructive and the willingness to
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destroy all humanity. We have nations that if they ever
got whole of nuclear weapons, they don't care if they
destroy the whole world while they destroy in attempts to
destroy their enemy. All right, So how does God and
why does God allow this stuff? So going back in
to really look at what Jesus said, to really look
at what the scripture says, not just the lens that
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was handed to me, I was able to expand my
understanding understand political power, economic power, and how it works
to shape the world and who we are and how
we experience life today. So you got to study to
show you what it is it tecond tiventy two fifteen.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Study to show yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Approved unto God, A workman, King James, language that needs
not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And I don't use that to support a dispensed.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
A a radical, dispensational way of thinking or seeing the Bible.
All right, but I do say we're called to study
your your favorite passage, be ready to give every man
an answer of the hope, the reason for the hope
that is in you, in meekness and fear. Your study
of the Word determines the is the measure of your
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relationship with God. Yeah, we can enjoy the things of
the spirit. And unfortunately I talked about it a few
weeks ago and grab and go Christianity.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I was, I was at a Panera.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah I eat Panera, and they had a sign outside
grab and go, and I said, wow, you know that's
fast food, but it's also translated into people's relationship with God.
You know, let me just you know, get a quick
interaction with God. Can you imagine if husbands and wives
operated that way, just quick, quickly quick interaction with I'll
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leave it there, quick interaction with your spouse and then
you're gone. No, you need intimacy, you need time, you
need interaction. You get to know God in his word.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Wow. That's good stuff, Yes, very good.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Another thing that you and I talked about and going
to power is calling, sense of calling and sense of purpose.
You sent me a text this week about understanding your
role you're calling and defining that clarifying that you remember
that text.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, but it was my overall calling. I understand. Right.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But when we look at the regression of one Christianity,
one society, I think that you know, out of that person,
certain voices emerged, right. So when you look at your
growth as a pastor, the voice that emerged was based
on what the context in which you were ministering.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
So the context is not necessary geographic, but also the time. Right,
So we look at the time within the context, you
look at your voice that is louder than you know,
you know, specific other voices that you would talk about.
And when I talk about voice, you know, trying to
make sure I don't sound crazy. But the one voice
that emerges is based on the time that the church
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is in, right, so look at the time that the
church is in, the question is, okay, what voice is
going to emerge to respond to the condition of the church,
the condition of society, to knowing that God is still
not done and as long as we still got breadth
and things are going the way it is gone, we
still have work to do it. So the question is
based on that understanding, what is the voice is going
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to emerge out of Jamarborn.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Arts See yeah, and for me all right, because I
am in circles now that are dealing with issues of race, inequity,
social justice. You know, I'm working within a lot of
those circles right now, and they're asking for my voice,
my insight on this, my biblical lens on all of this.
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So the last forty two years of ministry was actually
preparing my voice to be a voice in this present time.
God knew all this stuff would happen. God knew how
the condition of humanity in the church right now, So
he prepares you. Sometimes he takes time to prepare you
for a specific season where your voice can then emerge.
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Everybody wants their voice to emerge right away, you know
that's not it. I thought about this in turn to
Luke four eighteen Luke chapter four, verse eighteen. And this
will help you if you're still wrestling, you know, with
number one, you're calling sense of calling purpose and application
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of that purpose because people are still wrestling with this.
And you know, I think I thought Rick Wahman wrote
a great book, you know, The Purpose Driven Life, and
it sold so many copies just because of the title alone,
before you even get to the content of the book,
the title purpose. Everybody is hungry.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
They want to know purpose.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Because I know we spoke about this before. My passion
is to encourage Christians to have fun living this Christian walk.
But it's biblically centered Christian walk, right, which means you
got to know the word. You have to know the
word because you I think that the more you know
the word, the more freedom you can live this Christian walk.
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There's more freedom in this Christian work, right because as
as as you develop and mature, what wasn't good for you?
You know, because some people need a radical change, right,
They need radical change to any cold turkey.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Right. That's why.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
From the and that cold Turkey took you from things
that you wasn't good, not because you're a Christian, but
because of how you're wired.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right, everything was everything, everything was sinned. You couldn't touch
that at that time. Right.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
But and I think as you get more educated in
the walk with God, through the relationship with the Bible,
you start seeing certain things, uh that you can you know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
To say this carefully because I'm not giving a green
light for anything. Yeah. Yeah, but you find mature, you
find you find freedom.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, put this way.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You find freedom and the maturity you gain through your
relationship with the Word of.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
God, you move from concrete authority to abstract authority. Concrete
authority we exercise over our children when they're young, because
I said so, no explanation, because they don't.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
They're growth of development.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They need commands, they need precepts. They don't they're not
ready for principles and patterns which require experience and judgment
and discernment. No, they need precepts, they need commands. I said, so,
So that's concrete authority. As they mature and grow, now
you can reason with them. That's abstract authority. We have
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people incocerated because they did not transfer transition from concrete
authority to abstract authority. So they're inconcerated white because they
need concrete authority, They need those commands and those boundaries
and forced. But as you get older, you begin to think,
you begin to reason. That's the whole. When I was
a child, but all said, I thought like a child,
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I reason like a child. I understood like a child.
But when I became a man, I put away childish thing.
So as you mature in life, you think differently. You
have a different lens. So four verse eighteen Luke four eighteen.
The spirit of the Lord. This helped me a lot.
All right, The spirit of the Lord is upon me.
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This is Jesus talking. Hear me, This is Jesus talking.
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because so
there's a reason why God places his Holy Spirit on
an individual. Right, the spirit of the Lord upon me
because He has anointed me.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
You get that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
To anoint an Old Testament ceremonial practice was to rub
oil on a person they were anointed. What it meant
was that they were being consecrated, They were being separated
by God towards something, and they were going to be empowered.
Jesus said, the spirit of the Lord is upon me
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because there's a reason he has anointed me to do something, to.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Do what to bring good news to the poor.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives
and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the
oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favorite.
So anointed me, which means he has placed certain graces
in Jesus's life. Right, certain gift talents and abilities in
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my life.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I can put.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Myself in that God has anointed me, He has consecrated me.
He has placed certain graces in my life, certain gift
talents and abilities in my life, and has consecrated me
to use them for His glory. And that's a very
broad expression there. So now, to glorify God is essentially
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to bring honor to God. The proverb says, honor the
Lord with your substance. It's not just your material well,
but you as a whole being, as a person. So
the question is what are your gifts and how can
you use them to glorify God. So you have to
identify the graces in your life, the gifts in your life,
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those talents and abilities that God has given you. All right,
Jesus understood that everything he did in Luke eleven twenty.
Jesus understood that everything he did was powered by the
Holy Spirit. When they were challenging him about casting out demons,
they accused him of casting out demons by the power
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of Belsiebal right, So they weren't questioned his ability to
cast out They saw his power, they witnessed it.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
They didn't challenge that. They challenged his motive and his source.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So he turns around and in Luke eleven twenty he says,
if I, with the finger of God cast devils, who
do you cast them out with?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Right? So exorcism was real.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It was believed because that was the world in which Jesus,
you know, existed here on earth. But he understood that
everything that he did was powered by the Holy Spirit,
which is God's active presence in our lives. It was
God's active presence in his earthly life, right, and it's
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God's active presence in our earthly life. The presence of God, however,
present of the Holy Spirit and power. The Holy Spirit
in Jesus was without measure all right, John three twenty four.
He was given the spirit without measure. The same is
true for us in terms of everything that we do
is powered by the Holy spirit we do for God
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in the glory of God is powered by the Holy Spirit.
But with us they're boundaries. Yes, we are given the
spirit with mesure and Paul says that we should function
within the measure of God's grace in our line because
you know, we humans, our flesh gets in it.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
We want to be Jesus. Yeah, and then we want
to be a wonder Then I believe we will. We
will abuse that power. Look at a young person. Compare
the older individual driving a sports car.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Right, the likelihood statistically speaking, for that person to get
in an accident.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's just higher with a young person because.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
They don't have the maturity level in order to operate
that car with all of the variances and variables that
come into play when driving at high speeds.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
So does it require yeah, maturity.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yeah, So our level of maturity will never get to
a place where we understand everything that's going on. Right,
our limited mind does not have the capacity understand everything
is going on. So therefore there has to limit the
power that we operate in.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And Ephesians chapter four, which talks about the gifting of
the church the building up of the body, says that
we have a responsibility to contribut to the whole our
measure of grace. So it's about working together. It's not
about you being the superstar. It's about taking what God
has blessed you, what he has anointed you with, all right,
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and bringing that to bear on the body as a whole.
It's what you contribute to the whole. And and that's
why we have to be careful with with our pursuit
of greatness, all right, And and and and and misunderstand
that that it becomes all about you. No, Jesus said,
if you want to be great, serve, find a way
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to serve. So it is in your service that you
become great. And it is in your service that you
contribute to a whole that comes together and it makes
up this word spirit and community and it built this
good stuff.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yep. So that was my week. That was your week.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, So we spent the whole service on his week
brought to you by Hejas passag Jamal or not.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
But my resolve is that God is still in control,
absolutely right. And the question is and the question that
we all have to ask. It wasn't just passed.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Jamal had to ask that we all have to ask
because The next level of growth in the church is
not just because of the pasting right right, the on
the ground tangible expression of what a Christian looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is you.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
So I'm putting this on you as well. What is
your voice that's going to emerge at this time and
your sphere of influence? Everybody has a voice, whether it's
with your friend group, the corporate arena that you're working in,
your social area that you're working in. What is your
voice that's going to merge at this time? And is
that voice be found dation to that voice is going
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to be the Word of God or it is going
to be your emotions that you're trying to be all
fancy about.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Absolutely good stuff. Man, say it, bam. I think we
have a minister now waiting, Yes, in the wait right, yes.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So as as as we transition to minister, my question
is really few to think about what role you're gonna play,
what your voice is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
What has God annoyed you to Why the spirit of
the Lord is upon you because He has anointed you
for something. Yes, find out what that is. You discover
it in the context of your gift, talents and abilities,
using them to bring glory to God and.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
So some housekeeping. So we're having in person service.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, let's first start, there's no impersonal service for the
fourth of July.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
For July fourth, What there is no personal service? I repeat?
Why no personal service because it's July fourth.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And we're giving our staff off. Yes, that's great, that
is really nice. But we're still having service. We're still
gonna have services still streaming like we like we serve here. Yes,
but it's not going to be in We won't be
gathering because we gather every first Sunday in person in
the building.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
We won't be in the building gathering.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
But July eleventh, we will be back in the building
gathering the same times. But there is no registration for this,
so you just come, yes, just come, beautiful. We are reopening, Yes,
we are reopening, and it's just the July eleventh and
then August first. I'm going to be in person and
in September, the first time of September launches us back
into the building. As long as things go smooth this summer, amen, amen,
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So please keep that in prayer and some of the
stuff we share as an announcement, but also for you
to pray for.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, you don't what I think.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's important to refer to an email that came in
from Suleiman.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Is it Wiggins, Yes, you want to read it? Yeah,
I'll read it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Thanks and thank you for all of your Father's Day wishes.
The car and I car the expressions of love.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We appreciate that. As your spiritual father, it means a
lot to hear from you and to have you share.
But one of our members, Suli Mon Wigan, said Happy
Father's Day to Passor Vernaud and Pastor Jamal. I continue
to pray for you and your entire family as daily
as the Lord has instructed me to do so. Also,
thank you to all the leaders and the whole ministry
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team at CCC. Thank you for continuing to serve us
and encouraging us at home. It's working. It's working. This Sunday,
I could just feel the anointing and the love of
God coming through the screen as I watched the program.
What we have at CCC is so special, it's unique.
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It's God given, pure and true. Please continue to let
the Lord lead you forward. It's working. At the end
of the program, I felt so refreshed, so new. I
struggled to keep the tears in my eyes. So thank
you for doing what God has given you to do.
It is definitely working. I'm so glad to be a member,
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so proud to be a Christian. Happy Father's Day. God
bless and thank you for your obedience to the Lord.
See the silly mom. Thank you for sharing this. This
is so important. We appreciate the affirmation and the encouragement
that comes from you.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Two more announcements and we out of here. Just to
remind us for all the parents, just keeping the loop.
C three has some summer events that they're doing I
think four for the summer. One of the events is
skating back at the building. Really yeah, so we were
trying to do some things to get the kids back together,
to socialize them because they haven't really gathered. Youth haven't
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really gathered, so work on that. Please go on the website.
Registration is open. You can join through the website and
there's a lot of couple of events, nice things that
we're looking to plan and doing and hopefully, you know,
things really open up.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
We can start going back to the retreats until next time.
As we leave this place. For every guy's presence, Jesus,
it is Lord period. We believe it, we proclaim it,
and we're seeing it. Come to the past. God blessed
and enjoy the rest of your week.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Did you say that real Rabernard is on Instagram to
be sick? Get the air Robernardista in Instagram? You mean
every other Thursday at three pm Eastern time, we can
catch the real ar Bernard live on Instagram.
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Yes, join ar Bernard on Instagram live every other Thursday
at three pm Eastern NA.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
What are your gifts and how can you use them
to glorify God? So you have to identify the graces
in your life, the gifts in your life, those talents
and abilities that God has given you. Jesus understood that
everything he did was powered by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Welcome to aar Bernard Ministries. You were about to hear
from aar Bernard, one of today's most influential voices in ministry,
a best selling author and charismatic teacher of spirit led truth,
today's thought provoking mess. That captivating word will empower you spiritually,
inform you intellectually, and motivates you with renewed strength to
stand boldly in your purpose and live out your faith
(01:09):
in today's ever changing culture. Tune in and join us
now for ar Bernard.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Today. Joining Doctor Bernard is his son pastor Jamal Bernard.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Jesus said, you heard that it was said, But I
say to you that forced me to go back and
read some of the things that Jesus said. I was
taught in that context that God loves Christians and hates sinners.
So he loved the believer, but hates the world. And
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then I go back and read Jesus's comments and read
the scripture that God benevolently is common grace. God benevolently
loves the world. He doesn't hate the world, all right.
So I learned the difference between God's common grace, his
benevolence towards the righteous, the unrighteous and the righteous, the
the good and the evil in the world. He just
(02:02):
he poured out his blessings. Paul puts it this way
so beautifully in Acts chapter fourteen, verse fifteen through seventeen.
He says that God allowed the nations to go their
own way, right to develop on their own. But in
fact He allowed them to develop on their own. I
was going to try to decide whether to read the
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text or just paraphrase it, to develop on their own,
establish their own systems of government and religious belief systems
and moral systems.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
All right, but he didn't leave them without witness the apostle.
Paul says, there, he gave them rains, the crops, gave
them joy, he gave them the experience of love. He
restrained let me, he put it this way, all right.
He gave them rain, sun, prosperity, health, happiness, natural capacities
and gifts.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
He restrained sin on.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Their behalf, even though they didn't realize it, from having
complete dominion over them and destroy them. And that helped
me understand God's sovereignty and God's providence and how it
works through human history because I was handed a lens
that's with them and us. It's it's us the believers,
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whom God loves. And if y'all out there you sin,
it's going to hell. But God loves people, and we
have to learn to love people whether they are in
relationship with God, because all of us were at one time.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And well, Paul Silken says that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, so I understood the difference between common grace, right
and God's saving grace. His common grace, which is his
love for all humanity and his benevolence towards all humanity,
and his saving grace which is that unique loving relationship
that God has with those who are in relationship with
(03:57):
Him through Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So good, and you won't come to realization if you're
not connected with the word that's right, because when you
see the Old Testament, what you're seeing is God's administration
of his common grace and his saving grace.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And this helped me understand power because I would say,
how could God let people? Remember, power is the ability
to influence people, events and outcomes. And I would say, well,
how could God allow certain people in power? How could
he allow certain nations to develop in a certain way?
And their power is self destructive and the willingness to
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destroy all humanity. We have nations that if they ever
got whole of nuclear weapons, they don't care if they
destroy the whole world while they destroy in attempts to
destroy their enemy. All right, So how does God and
why does God allow this stuff? So going back in
to really look at what Jesus said, to really look
at what the scripture says, not just the lens that
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was handed to me, I was able to expand my
understanding understand political power, economic power, and how it works
to shape the world and who we are and how
we experience life today. So you got to study to
show you what it is it tecond tiventy two fifteen.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Study to show yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Approved unto God, A workman, King James, language that needs
not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And I don't use that to support a dispensed.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
A a radical, dispensational way of thinking or seeing the Bible.
All right, but I do say we're called to study
your your favorite passage, be ready to give every man
an answer of the hope, the reason for the hope
that is in you, in meekness and fear. Your study
of the Word determines the is the measure of your
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relationship with God. Yeah, we can enjoy the things of
the spirit. And unfortunately I talked about it a few
weeks ago and grab and go Christianity.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I was, I was at a Panera.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah I eat Panera, and they had a sign outside
grab and go, and I said, wow, you know that's
fast food, but it's also translated into people's relationship with God.
You know, let me just you know, get a quick
interaction with God. Can you imagine if husbands and wives
operated that way, just quick, quickly quick interaction with I'll
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leave it there, quick interaction with your spouse and then
you're gone. No, you need intimacy, you need time, you
need interaction. You get to know God in his word.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Wow. That's good stuff, Yes, very good.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Another thing that you and I talked about and going
to power is calling, sense of calling and sense of purpose.
You sent me a text this week about understanding your
role you're calling and defining that clarifying that you remember
that text.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, but it was my overall calling. I understand. Right.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But when we look at the regression of one Christianity,
one society, I think that you know, out of that person,
certain voices emerged, right. So when you look at your
growth as a pastor, the voice that emerged was based
on what the context in which you were ministering.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
So the context is not necessary geographic, but also the time. Right,
So we look at the time within the context, you
look at your voice that is louder than you know,
you know, specific other voices that you would talk about.
And when I talk about voice, you know, trying to
make sure I don't sound crazy. But the one voice
that emerges is based on the time that the church
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is in, right, so look at the time that the
church is in, the question is, okay, what voice is
going to emerge to respond to the condition of the church,
the condition of society, to knowing that God is still
not done and as long as we still got breadth
and things are going the way it is gone, we
still have work to do it. So the question is
based on that understanding, what is the voice is going
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to emerge out of Jamarborn.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Arts See yeah, and for me all right, because I
am in circles now that are dealing with issues of race, inequity,
social justice. You know, I'm working within a lot of
those circles right now, and they're asking for my voice,
my insight on this, my biblical lens on all of this.
(08:33):
So the last forty two years of ministry was actually
preparing my voice to be a voice in this present time.
God knew all this stuff would happen. God knew how
the condition of humanity in the church right now, So
he prepares you. Sometimes he takes time to prepare you
for a specific season where your voice can then emerge.
(08:56):
Everybody wants their voice to emerge right away, you know
that's not it. I thought about this in turn to
Luke four eighteen Luke chapter four, verse eighteen. And this
will help you if you're still wrestling, you know, with
number one, you're calling sense of calling purpose and application
(09:18):
of that purpose because people are still wrestling with this.
And you know, I think I thought Rick Wahman wrote
a great book, you know, The Purpose Driven Life, and
it sold so many copies just because of the title alone,
before you even get to the content of the book,
the title purpose. Everybody is hungry.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
They want to know purpose.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Because I know we spoke about this before. My passion
is to encourage Christians to have fun living this Christian walk.
But it's biblically centered Christian walk, right, which means you
got to know the word. You have to know the
word because you I think that the more you know
the word, the more freedom you can live this Christian walk.
(09:57):
There's more freedom in this Christian work, right because as
as as you develop and mature, what wasn't good for you?
You know, because some people need a radical change, right,
They need radical change to any cold turkey.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Right. That's why.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
From the and that cold Turkey took you from things
that you wasn't good, not because you're a Christian, but
because of how you're wired.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right, everything was everything, everything was sinned. You couldn't touch
that at that time. Right.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
But and I think as you get more educated in
the walk with God, through the relationship with the Bible,
you start seeing certain things, uh that you can you know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
To say this carefully because I'm not giving a green
light for anything. Yeah. Yeah, but you find mature, you
find you find freedom.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, put this way.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You find freedom and the maturity you gain through your
relationship with the Word of.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
God, you move from concrete authority to abstract authority. Concrete
authority we exercise over our children when they're young, because
I said so, no explanation, because they don't.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
They're growth of development.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They need commands, they need precepts. They don't they're not
ready for principles and patterns which require experience and judgment
and discernment. No, they need precepts, they need commands. I said, so,
So that's concrete authority. As they mature and grow, now
you can reason with them. That's abstract authority. We have
(11:31):
people incocerated because they did not transfer transition from concrete
authority to abstract authority. So they're inconcerated white because they
need concrete authority, They need those commands and those boundaries
and forced. But as you get older, you begin to think,
you begin to reason. That's the whole. When I was
a child, but all said, I thought like a child,
(11:54):
I reason like a child. I understood like a child.
But when I became a man, I put away childish thing.
So as you mature in life, you think differently. You
have a different lens. So four verse eighteen Luke four eighteen.
The spirit of the Lord. This helped me a lot.
All right, The spirit of the Lord is upon me.
(12:17):
This is Jesus talking. Hear me, This is Jesus talking.
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because so
there's a reason why God places his Holy Spirit on
an individual. Right, the spirit of the Lord upon me
because He has anointed me.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
You get that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
To anoint an Old Testament ceremonial practice was to rub
oil on a person they were anointed. What it meant
was that they were being consecrated, They were being separated
by God towards something, and they were going to be empowered.
Jesus said, the spirit of the Lord is upon me
(13:02):
because there's a reason he has anointed me to do something, to.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Do what to bring good news to the poor.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives
and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the
oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favorite.
So anointed me, which means he has placed certain graces
in Jesus's life. Right, certain gift talents and abilities in
(13:37):
my life.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I can put.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Myself in that God has anointed me, He has consecrated me.
He has placed certain graces in my life, certain gift
talents and abilities in my life, and has consecrated me
to use them for His glory. And that's a very
broad expression there. So now, to glorify God is essentially
(13:59):
to bring honor to God. The proverb says, honor the
Lord with your substance. It's not just your material well,
but you as a whole being, as a person. So
the question is what are your gifts and how can
you use them to glorify God. So you have to
identify the graces in your life, the gifts in your life,
(14:20):
those talents and abilities that God has given you. All right,
Jesus understood that everything he did in Luke eleven twenty.
Jesus understood that everything he did was powered by the
Holy Spirit. When they were challenging him about casting out demons,
they accused him of casting out demons by the power
(14:42):
of Belsiebal right, So they weren't questioned his ability to
cast out They saw his power, they witnessed it.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
They didn't challenge that. They challenged his motive and his source.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So he turns around and in Luke eleven twenty he says,
if I, with the finger of God cast devils, who
do you cast them out with?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Right? So exorcism was real.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It was believed because that was the world in which Jesus,
you know, existed here on earth. But he understood that
everything that he did was powered by the Holy Spirit,
which is God's active presence in our lives. It was
God's active presence in his earthly life, right, and it's
(15:28):
God's active presence in our earthly life. The presence of God, however,
present of the Holy Spirit and power. The Holy Spirit
in Jesus was without measure all right, John three twenty four.
He was given the spirit without measure. The same is
true for us in terms of everything that we do
is powered by the Holy spirit we do for God
(15:50):
in the glory of God is powered by the Holy Spirit.
But with us they're boundaries. Yes, we are given the
spirit with mesure and Paul says that we should function
within the measure of God's grace in our line because
you know, we humans, our flesh gets in it.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
We want to be Jesus. Yeah, and then we want
to be a wonder Then I believe we will. We
will abuse that power. Look at a young person. Compare
the older individual driving a sports car.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Right, the likelihood statistically speaking, for that person to get
in an accident.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's just higher with a young person because.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
They don't have the maturity level in order to operate
that car with all of the variances and variables that
come into play when driving at high speeds.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
So does it require yeah, maturity.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yeah, So our level of maturity will never get to
a place where we understand everything that's going on. Right,
our limited mind does not have the capacity understand everything
is going on. So therefore there has to limit the
power that we operate in.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And Ephesians chapter four, which talks about the gifting of
the church the building up of the body, says that
we have a responsibility to contribut to the whole our
measure of grace. So it's about working together. It's not
about you being the superstar. It's about taking what God
has blessed you, what he has anointed you with, all right,
(17:14):
and bringing that to bear on the body as a whole.
It's what you contribute to the whole. And and that's
why we have to be careful with with our pursuit
of greatness, all right, And and and and and misunderstand
that that it becomes all about you. No, Jesus said,
if you want to be great, serve, find a way
(17:35):
to serve. So it is in your service that you
become great. And it is in your service that you
contribute to a whole that comes together and it makes
up this word spirit and community and it built this
good stuff.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yep. So that was my week. That was your week.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, So we spent the whole service on his week
brought to you by Hejas passag Jamal or not.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
But my resolve is that God is still in control,
absolutely right. And the question is and the question that
we all have to ask. It wasn't just passed.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Jamal had to ask that we all have to ask
because The next level of growth in the church is
not just because of the pasting right right, the on
the ground tangible expression of what a Christian looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is you.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
So I'm putting this on you as well. What is
your voice that's going to emerge at this time and
your sphere of influence? Everybody has a voice, whether it's
with your friend group, the corporate arena that you're working in,
your social area that you're working in. What is your
voice that's going to merge at this time? And is
that voice be found dation to that voice is going
(18:45):
to be the Word of God or it is going
to be your emotions that you're trying to be all
fancy about.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Absolutely good stuff. Man, say it, bam. I think we
have a minister now waiting, Yes, in the wait right, yes.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So as as as we transition to minister, my question
is really few to think about what role you're gonna play,
what your voice is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
What has God annoyed you to Why the spirit of
the Lord is upon you because He has anointed you
for something. Yes, find out what that is. You discover
it in the context of your gift, talents and abilities,
using them to bring glory to God and.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
So some housekeeping. So we're having in person service.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, let's first start, there's no impersonal service for the
fourth of July.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
For July fourth, What there is no personal service? I repeat?
Why no personal service because it's July fourth.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And we're giving our staff off. Yes, that's great, that
is really nice. But we're still having service. We're still
gonna have services still streaming like we like we serve here. Yes,
but it's not going to be in We won't be
gathering because we gather every first Sunday in person in
the building.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
We won't be in the building gathering.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
But July eleventh, we will be back in the building
gathering the same times. But there is no registration for this,
so you just come, yes, just come, beautiful. We are reopening, Yes,
we are reopening, and it's just the July eleventh and
then August first. I'm going to be in person and
in September, the first time of September launches us back
into the building. As long as things go smooth this summer, amen, amen,
(20:24):
So please keep that in prayer and some of the
stuff we share as an announcement, but also for you
to pray for.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, you don't what I think.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's important to refer to an email that came in
from Suleiman.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Is it Wiggins, Yes, you want to read it? Yeah,
I'll read it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Thanks and thank you for all of your Father's Day wishes.
The car and I car the expressions of love.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We appreciate that. As your spiritual father, it means a
lot to hear from you and to have you share.
But one of our members, Suli Mon Wigan, said Happy
Father's Day to Passor Vernaud and Pastor Jamal. I continue
to pray for you and your entire family as daily
as the Lord has instructed me to do so. Also,
thank you to all the leaders and the whole ministry
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team at CCC. Thank you for continuing to serve us
and encouraging us at home. It's working. It's working. This Sunday,
I could just feel the anointing and the love of
God coming through the screen as I watched the program.
What we have at CCC is so special, it's unique.
(21:37):
It's God given, pure and true. Please continue to let
the Lord lead you forward. It's working. At the end
of the program, I felt so refreshed, so new. I
struggled to keep the tears in my eyes. So thank
you for doing what God has given you to do.
It is definitely working. I'm so glad to be a member,
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so proud to be a Christian. Happy Father's Day. God
bless and thank you for your obedience to the Lord.
See the silly mom. Thank you for sharing this. This
is so important. We appreciate the affirmation and the encouragement
that comes from you.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Two more announcements and we out of here. Just to
remind us for all the parents, just keeping the loop.
C three has some summer events that they're doing I
think four for the summer. One of the events is
skating back at the building. Really yeah, so we were
trying to do some things to get the kids back together,
to socialize them because they haven't really gathered. Youth haven't
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really gathered, so work on that. Please go on the website.
Registration is open. You can join through the website and
there's a lot of couple of events, nice things that
we're looking to plan and doing and hopefully, you know,
things really open up.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
We can start going back to the retreats until next time.
As we leave this place. For every guy's presence, Jesus,
it is Lord period. We believe it, we proclaim it,
and we're seeing it. Come to the past. God blessed
and enjoy the rest of your week.
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