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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Eastern proclamation is much more than just going around and saying, hey,
Jesus died for your sins. God loves you. He's giving
you his grace. Jesus rose from the dead so that
you may have life. No proclamation is much much broader

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than that.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome to A.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Ar Bernard Ministries. You were about to hear from aar Bernard,
one of today's most influential voices in ministry. A best
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stand boldly in your purpose and live out your faith

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Joining doctor Bernard is his son, Pastor Jamal Bernard.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
The more resilient you are, the loudier testimony will be
because people are watching and God doesn't take us to
save us, and then, you know, put us to the
side and say, okay, that's what I'm He takes us,
he saves us, but he shows us off. You know,
we're one of the individuals that God's gonna say, look
at you know, doctor ar Bernard.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
You know, I.

Speaker 7 (01:40):
Don't know, it's too late.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
He did it. I mean he did it.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
I read about Job, but that was a different situation.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
That was a different situation. That was a different situation.
There's times that God.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Shows us off to the people, to the public, and
there's times like in Job, God was having a conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
Keep me off the radar?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
No too late because you were just on TBN this week.
Tell about keep you on the radar.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
All right, as low as possible, Yes, but no.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
But the thing about it is you. The way you
live your life helps that happen in a certain way.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
Right. I believe that you.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Just even a message of how you live your life
compared to other ministers is a message in itself.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
On okay, let me behave right.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
We all have a distinct calling yes, and purpose and character, personality, style,
I mean, all of that goes in to make each
individual unique. And yeah, so times like these people are
looking at what's happening around them and they're trying to

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get a handle on it from a biblical perspective to
the less of their faith. So for that reason, this
past week, I've been invited to comment news outlets, Christian
news outlets, secular news outlets about the inauguration. What does
it mean? Where are we? Because the transition of power

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is an opportunity for progress, for creativity, for positive change,
you know, and that's what we want, yes, But the
circumstances surrounding this transition of power has been quite strange
and different, quite different in the history of American society.

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So we moved from and that's that's the resilience of America.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
God bless America.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Because we go from a January sixth storming of the
Capitol Building, right, that's unprecedented, and people are in shock
around the world, and then you know, a week or
so later, or two weeks later, the sixth, the twentieth,
you know, two weeks later, there we are having you know,

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a ceremony and tradition and custom of the you know,
trans of power, peaceful transition of power. Now there was
military presence, and people will say, some people have said, well,
you see, you didn't even need that military presence because
nobody showed.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Up the riot.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, if the military wasn't there, would they have shown up.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
We can't say that, you know, we can't say that.
But look, you know, and I I gosh, I pray
that the rhetoric is going to calm down. I know
it's not going to end, it's going to continue, but
I'm praying that the rhetoric would calm down from both sides.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I think the way Biden leads and makes decisions will
help either increase the rhetoric or help it calm down.
You know, because you're looking at some of the executive
bills that he's signed, executive orders, executive orders that he
has signed, has caused other extremists to start back up with.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Some of the rhetoric.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
And let me say this to you about executive orders.
All right, every president, when they go into office, they
undo what the former president did if that president was
of another political party. So if you have a Republican
you know, when George Bush went into office junior junior son.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
All right, you know, he did what he did.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But then when Barack Obama came into office, he wrote
out a robust.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Uh plan of executive order. It's a chain thing.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
When Donald Trump came into office, he went through the
executive order process and writing off and you know, and
now Biden is in and he's doing the very same thing.
So the media, and that's what I mean by the
rhetoric keeps playing up that, oh, Biden's coming in and
he's undoing everything that Trump did and has no Look,

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every president does that in some way because they were
representing their political party.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
So don't don't don't.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Let the rhetoric get you a critical listener. And one
of the things that this atmosphere, this environment of misinformation
disinformation does, all right, it actually robs us of freedom
of thought if we're not careful, because freedom of thought
is foundational to every other freedom, because we have to

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be able to think critically, follow the dictates of our conscience,
and that's all tied to freedom of thought, to weigh
things carefully, to come to conclusions and make judgments, to
gain understanding, and take that from us, all right, then
we become robots, you know, and whatever voice we're listening
to controls our actions, our thoughts, our feelings, our emotions.

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So you've got to be careful.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
But you see some of that because there's two things
that they say that especially younger generations having a hard time.
The younger generation is having a harder time decision matrix.
So your thought process plays a lot into your decision
mat how you make decisions, and what is that And
because they are so caught up in the world of

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social media, it's somewhat of a disconnect from reality.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
So here it is on social media.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
You know, you know, Jane Doe is doing X, Y
and Z looking good and stuff like that, and they
want their life to look good.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
But this is how it looks in front of the camera.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
But now you get Jane Doe behind the scenes and
it's like, oh, the tension is totally different.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
My life is totally different.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
You know, My life evolved around being, you know, creating
a persona right, but this is not really who I am,
and I think social media has that's the negative aspect
of social media. You know, there's good, a lot of
good aspects of social media, but so the decision matrix
of the individual is not at the same level as
it used to be.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You got to teach that. You got to do that
on a Sunday teaching talking about how to make decisions.
We got to do that because people want to know,
how do I make decisions? Is their process? Especially as
a Christian, as a believer, How do I make decisions?
I mean, when it comes down to anything in life, business, family,
buying a house, a car.

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A spouse, how do you make decisions?

Speaker 5 (08:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
And there is a matrix that you need to consider
and can be quite.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Helpful because your decisions matrix also plays a part with
the low of attraction.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
Ah no, but we're not going. Okay, we're not going
to today. We've got it.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
We owe them and thank you for all of your
emails of complaint that we took too much time with
the testimonies. We want more word. Okay, so we're gonna
jump in. All right, let's go, all right, let's a
question that I missed.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
No one, what's three or four? Has been a question?
That's three or four? We got one of you know,
uh and then you know, just expounding on the first
two voices, the redemptive voice, and what does that look
like you know.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
So we talked about redemptive voice and a moral voice.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
You know, I lean a lot heavier in that moral
voice because of the Church.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
And I put an indictment on the Church.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
If one lady I was watching and she was talking
about Christianity and she referred to as the trans Atlantic
white Christianity white yes, And I said, wow, wow, that's
the view right now for a lot of individuals that
are looking at Christians. It's not the first it's not.
It's it was called the white man's religious right at

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that time. Now it's called the white the chance white fans.
And I don't, I don't, okay, But but that's that
comes out of a lack of knowledge because in the sixties,
it was the same thing when in the sixties when
I was younger than I am young now, But in
the sixties, remember the role that was playing Christianity was
playing in that time and Jesus movement.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, but did you hear part about when I was
younger than I am not?

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Thinking?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
So, So there where we left off last week, because
we were talking about the four voices, and let me
give a little context to the four voices of the Church. Uh,
the Great commission, which you may be aware of, is
go into all the world preats of gospel, make disciples,
teaching them. All the things that I commanded to you,
uh you uh can be summed up in three words proclamation, discipleship,

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and humanitarianism.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
This is me.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm presenting the three words that sum it up for
us in our house, all right. And I say proclamation
because proclamation includes more than just the gospel of the life,
the death, and the resurrection of Jesus, but it also
deals with the implications of that life, death and resurrection.
What does it mean? What does it mean to humanity

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as a whole? What does it mean to us socially, politically, morally, spiritually.
So when you talk about proclamation, because we proclaim truth
to power, which is our prophetic voice, we're going to
get into. So proclamation is much more than just going
around and saying, hey, Jesus died for your sins. God
loves you, He's giving you his grace. Jesus rose from
the dead so that you may have life. No, proclamation

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is much much broader than that. So proclamation, all right,
is the commission, the great commission discipleship. And if we
were to define that it's simply to make people followers
of Christ. That's a lot to unpack there, Yes, because
people call themselves followers of Christ, and yet they're following

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political parties, they're following ideologies, they're following things that are
inconsistent with Christ, which we're going to talk about. So
when we get into the prophetic voice of the church today,
so making them followers of Christ, what does that mean?
How do we understand Christ? Because you can see many
images of Jesus. You know, if he was to be painted,
he'd look different, you know, all over the place. So

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you know what Jesus are we talking about? So proclamation,
discipleship and humanitarianism, and humanitarianism really expresses the life, the
love of God, the light of God as it relates
to human society, and that whole thing of redemption, reconciliation, restoration, healing,

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all of that built into it. So Jesus did say
that there's nothing greater than the Word of God. Man
shall not live by bread alone. So he elevated the
scripture and the Word of God and man's relationship with
God as the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
But at the same time he fed the five thousand,
he fed the four thousand. So it's not like he
exalted religion and belief in God without considering human need
and human reality.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
It reminds me of that that message that you used
to teach, what's the worth of Christianity if it ignores
your socio economical condition?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Exactly? Exactly. Yeah, you know, what is it, James says it.
What is it You see someone in need? You know
they're naked, and you say, be clothed, be well, be fed,
and don't do anything to address their need. So the
church is not just a religious institution. It is a
social cultural institution and we have to understand that. So
that's what we engage in, you know, the whole idea

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of the becoming a site for the distribution of vaccines,
which we did this past week. And again if you
are uncomfortable about the vaccine.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Don't don't take it. They were going in on a chat.
We need some maturity on this chat. You know, we
need to understand. Hey, voice opinion, but don't start doubting.
You know the fact that we're trying to respond to
the ones that say yes and that need it and
you know, are concerned about their life.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Just buying into the culture that demonizes anyone that disagrees
with you. So you shouldn't be doing that, period, especially
as Christians, as believers, you know, we should be able
to have differences of opinion on certain issues. You know,
certain things are non negotiable in the faith, you know,
but things like this you may not agree. But we

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have a responsibility as part of our humanitarianism to make
these things available for the good of the community. And
we had some of our golden saints say, you know,
thank you, we couldn't get in. Is there going to
be another distribution? So we're working on that. We're waiting
for the word from the governor's office. You know, last

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I heard two hundred and fifty thousandvaccines are going to
be coming in. So it's how it's rolling out. But
that's our responsibility. We take that on. So proclamation, discipleship, humanitarianism.
So the four Voices of the Church, the voices of
the Church has to do with proclamation what we proclaim.

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So the first is our redemptive voice. And if we
were to go to a wonderful text, I would go
to two Corinthians five nineteen where it says four and
I'm reading today out of the New Living Translation NLT.
All right, For God was in Christ reconciling the world

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to himself, no longer counting people's sins against them, and
he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation. So we
are Christ's ambassadors. God is making his appeal to the
world through us. We speak for Christ when we plead

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come back to God. For God made Christ, who never sin,
to be the offering for our sin, so that we
could be made right with God through Christ. So our
redemptive voice has to do with the reconciliation and healing
of humanity by reconnecting them back to God, the restoration

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of peace, those things that were disrupted as a result
of the fall, which includes, of course the destruction of
satantic rule, darkness, ignorance, you know, spiritual moral ignorance, all
of that.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
And that's so good because when you look at the
rhetoric that even Christians are saying, how is that, where's
the redemptive aspect of it?

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Right, And even in the text it tells us, if
we have a problem with the individual, let's deal with it.
So you know, the relationship between them and God is
not hindered by the contension between the two bus within
the church and.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Your your relationship with your brother and sister is more
important than you're gifting and that anything that you bring
to the altar, because Jesus said, if you at the altar,
ye have ought to remember that there is a problem
between you and your brother. Lee specifically says, leave your gifts,
so what you have to offer God becomes less important.

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What's most important is the relationship. And that's important because
that's one of the things that He gives us in life.
He gives us relationships, that's part and how we manage
those relationship is critical.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
That's why I think one of the greatest gifts that
we as Christians can have is the art of communication.
You know, to be able to say what we need
to say in a way that it maintains a particular
style of relationship.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Communication is the basis for life, especially the life of
a relationship. It's true in family and friends, husband and wife,
parents and children, children and the children across the board,
you know, So that's important. So that's the first one,
the redemptive voice. Do I need to rewrite them on
the board or what?

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yes, for those individuals, you know, they're like that.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Okay, So let me find the and and and that's
why truth matters.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
For those individuals say that truth doesn't matter, truth matters.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yep, Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth and the life.
So the way matters, truth matters, and the life we
live matters. So this our redemptive voice, right, I'm not
going to our moral voice. And every society needs government
to maintain peace, order, law, right to protect its citizens.

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But every society also needs a moral value consensus, and
that is to remain to hold the society accountable to
issues of justice, equity, fairness, right, and that's what brings
and that's what brings peace and comm called within the society.
So the church has a moral voice. So when we

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think about moral we're thinking about right and wrong conduct.
And some people get mixed up between moral and ethical.
What's the difference between the two. I'm glad you asked.
So if I were to so moral is I would
say that it's transcendent, that it is universal. Morals are

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guiding principles. Ethics are specific rules of behavior. All right,
If I could say that morals are guiding principles, Remember,
a principle is a broad and basic truth right upon
which we build. Everything that God does, he does according
to a pattern and based on a principle. So there

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are a set of principles that are universal. Moral means
a set of guiding principles. Ethics means rules specific rules
of conduct. And here, if we can make this illustration,
there was a time in the United States where it
was the rule, the law, the legal code to own slaves.

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All right, that was ethical because it was within the
rules of the society. And ethics really come from the culture,
all right, the contextual to the culture. So within American
society at that time, all right, that was one of
the legal codes.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
But was it moral. Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So you could have something that's ethical within the rules,
right sif rules, but it moral.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
And this is why.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Doctor King, Martin Luther King, was able to address America
and issues of discrimination, marginalization, disenfranchisement of black and brown
people in this country on a moral basis. He was saying,
this is morally wrong, regardless of what your law says,
what your rules say, that's where we come up with
unjust laws, regardless of what your ethics say. This is

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morally wrong. Has to change. So we have to be
able to you know, distinguish the two. So on a
moral basis, we're talking about universal laws, guiding principles within
a society. So for us from the very beginning, you know,
God made man in his image. Let us make man
in our image and our likeness, all right, So man

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bears the image and likeness of God, and that speaks
to the life and dignity of the human person. That's
a moral value, that's a moral principle that every human being,
no matter what the color of their skin, their education,
their economics, their geographic location, every human person is worthy

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of life and dignity. The life and dignity of the
human person is very important. So now if we have
rules and laws conduct built into our social system and
structure that denies the life and dignity of the human person,
then we have a conflict between what is moral and
what is ethical. So that's really really the best way

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to break it down. So as a church, right our
moral voice is to uphold a standard of right and
wrong conduct when it comes to those higher values, those
higher principles, especially to those in power, because we have
responsibility to speak truth to power. That's what we do,
and that goes right into a profetic voice. And here's why,

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every decision that is made in government by those in power,
every decision that is made that impacts human life is
a moral decision.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
I'll say it again.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Every decision that is made that impacts human life, the
quality of life right, is a moral decision. So we
have moral grounds, yes, to challenge that decision or support
that decision, and we have responsibility as a church to
call that out. So we have a redemptive voice, We
have a moral voice, and we have prophetic voice. And
we got to spend a minute here because this is

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something that has been a views.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
Prophecy is not fortune telling.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Number one, don't you don't go to the prophet like
you go to the fortune teller and try to find out,
you know, what's going to happen to you six months
from now. That is not what the gift and I
emphasized the word gift of the prophetic is for the
prophetic is to be respected. The prophetic is an essential
part of our experience, especially with the charismas of the

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Holy Spirit, right, but it is not to be abused
or toyed with. And that's why all of this stuff
about you know, profits predicting you know that Trump would win.
God did not give the prophetic for us to predict
winners of elections or horse races or mega million, mega millions,
powerful I know, I thought.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So God has given us a prophetic voice, and the
prophetic voice is sometimes predictive to the.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Future, right yep, but.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Towards a very specific end, and we'll talk about that.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
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