Chris Mitchell

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for joining us on this week's Pray dot Com
Dateline Jerusalem podcast. This week we sat down with Tim Ballard.
He's the man behind the movie The Sound of Freedom.
He has such a passion for children to protect them
from human trafficking. I think you're going to enjoy that
he's explaining why he's here in the Middle East, why

(00:20):
he went into Syria, why he's here in Israel, and
why he's standing up for the people of Israel for
such a time as this. Take a listen.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Tim, Baila, great to be with you, real honor to
be sitting down here with you and here in Jerusalem.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Tell us why you came. Well, we look, we rescue
kids wherever they are, and we've been tracking this situation
in southern Syria for since July fourteenth. We had some
IDEF and kind of nonstate actor assets who are giving
us information as it's going and it got to the
point where we realized that they're going to start they're

(00:56):
going to start him out now, so we just jumped
on a plane and came over. We've done this before,
you know, we've done this work before. It's very complicated
in the Middle East. But we're one of the few
groups who've led operations. In twenty seventeen through nineteen, we
were running rescue operations out of northern Iraq at the
Night of the Plains when Isis had occupied Mysool and

(01:16):
parts of the region there and they're beating up Christian
and Y City.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
We were there shidres, remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
So yeah, we based out of our bill and we
ran really cool, really cool complex operations and we actually
got ten thousand people out, so many out that we
had to move them, mostly to Australia who would take
them because there's there was no other place to put
them up there. So we know how to do this,
We know how to work in this very very you know,
difficult and high risk environment, and so we just we

(01:46):
just flew out and you know, the first thing we
did was we had to understand who the Jews people were,
and so we just started interviewing as many as we could.
We we got a meeting with the Sheik Tarif, who's
the Chikh, the Sheikh over the Jewish people in Israel
and beautiful, beautiful, spiritual, very spiritually powerful man. Okay, like

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just being with them just you know, and so we
learned about these people, and it was a very unique
perspective about who they were. You know, these are the
they hil from at least by tradition, if not by blood,
to Jethro from the Old Testament. And Jethro was the
great rehabilitator of Moses and the advisor and protector and
defender of Moses. And so they connect all of us.

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You know, we all love Moses. I mean, the founding
principles of our nation. You know, the founding fathers of
America spent more time in the Old Testament than any
other place when they were devising the plan for the Constitution.
And so it's a beautiful thing we're connected to. And
of course, you know they're like the praetoriat guard, you know,
just like Moses was the was being protected by Jethro.
These the Jews protect the Christians. It's beautiful. I mean,

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they take them in. There's been at least three in
the last week's three Christian villages just sacked burned, and
the same thing happening to them. And who took them in.
They can bring the sway that the Jews took them in.
They let them use their church for Christian services. They're
beautiful people. They just want peace and love and they'll
fight to the death for anyone. And I just grew
to love them very fast. And that made me even

(03:19):
more motivated to get in there and help these people
who have helped my Christian brothers and sisters for centuries.
And so, you know, we started getting loud. You know,
I have enough followers to get loud, and because no
one was talking about this, and it just pissed me off,
you know, because it's like everyone wants to talk about it,
usually smokescreen stuff and just lies and just click bait

(03:41):
and whatever about what's happening in Palestine and and and
yet none of these human rights groups who who's bleeding
hearts for children don't say a damn thing nothing about
this genocide, true genocide, no two ways about it, of
the Christianian Drews and otherwise other people. And I'm like,

(04:04):
what's going on, Like no one has their real heart
in the media that I could see. They don't really
care because if you double standard, do you lose credibility.
And so we're screaming, like wake up, look at this.
Open the gates because we couldn't get in right away,
like who's gonna open the gates for us? I'm king, Well,
King Abdullah opened the gates. Well, we'll prime minister now
who opened the gates? Well, right before I did my
first video a few days ago, right by the Sea

(04:28):
of Galilee, I'm like appealing to the Christians, like, look
where we're at. You know, what would Jesus do right now?
You think he'd let these little kids be They're being
tossed off roofs, they're being raped, they're being beheaded. They're
just one hundred miles away. Who's go? And then Trump
I say divine an invention, and other people are gonna
say we colluded. We didn't divine an intervention. Just two
hours before I did my first video, We're in the
Golden Heights and I see this tweet for this, you know,

(04:50):
this expost from from Trump inviting once again President all
Shada and others to join the abraham and courts, And
I was like, boom, there's my message. Peace through trade,
peace through commerce. No peace through throwing children off of
roofs and beheading women and raping children. That's no peace
has come together, you know, And so that kind of

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I was like, listen, hopefully that can be utilized and
maybe this this person who we don't really know too
much about, we'll do the right thing and liberate Shreda
and pull back the militants and signed the ABAMAC. Course,
wouldn't that be amazing? And so eventually we got to
the right people. And here's the shock. I was not.

(05:31):
I thought we were the tip of the spear, right,
I was wrong. We're not. Once we got through and
the gates got opened. That was an act of God,
by the way, I was a miracle. We got through,
and then we for deployed. I'm not going to say
more about where, how far we went or worry with
because I could compromise future operations. But I'll tell you this.
I was shocked and tearfully shocked to find out that
the IDF has been out there without cameras, without sans there.

(05:55):
They've been out there rescuing the Christians and the Jews.
And I'm talking like major efforts. I was, how do
we get provisions. Maybe we can divert some from Aman
that or that are heading south. Oh you don't need to,
Israel's already covered it. They have more than enough provisions.
It's just trying to get them into the places. I'm like,
who are you guys, Because Tucker Carlson and my friend

(06:18):
Candice and everyone else is saying that you're land grabbing, pedophile,
you know, predatory, bad guys. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm seeing that people who are only doing this for
I don't see much geopolitical strategy, and what they're doing
they didn't want you want to know, They're just helping
people who are dying and bleeding and being raped and
sent to sex markets. And I just felt the spirit

(06:40):
of God just like they got them wrong, the West
has them wrong. And so now you have to relook
at at the Palestinian conflict with Israel. Oh, now I
see clearer what's actually happening, you know, and you start
seeing a true narrative. And so that was the biggest
shock and blessing to see that these guys are already

(07:03):
they've been here and they didn't bring cameras. You know,
they're gonna say I'm in egomania because I brought cameras.
But I have to bring cameras because I'm gonna raise money.
I'm going to raise money because I don't know who
has what I want to make sure they have provisions.
So I said, fine. No one told me, no one
asked me to say this. They're gonna, you know, they're gonna.
I'm sure the conspiracy folks, even my friends are gonna say, oh,

(07:24):
he's got and paid. No one, no one even asked me.
They just even say will you tell them? Nobody from
the Israel government. I've been working with them the whole time.
Nobody has said, will you please tell them what we're doing.
They don't care. They just have their heads down doing
God's work. So I'm gonna do it on my own.
I'm gonna tell the truth. I'm gonna tell truth because
when I tell the truth, kids get rescued. When I

(07:44):
follow a lie, kids become worst collateral damage in the lie.
Whatever the lie is, truth is truth, Truth is sovereign.
Truth is a sovereign as Jesus himself. And when you
follow that, then you'll have the protection and power of
Heaven to rescue who God wants us to rescue, which
is his children. So that's my philosophy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
What would you say to Tucker Carlson and Candice Owing?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I would say several things. I actually may send a
message to all the media on my social media yesterday,
I think it is yesterday. And I said, guys, there's
a couple of things. One, you got to be what
I call Matthew eighteen compliant. Matthew eighteen is Jesus' command
on how to reconcile facts from fiction, how to reconcile
with your brother, how to reconcile with the truth. And
there's steps you have to take. You have to take

(08:28):
your time. Matthew eighteen compliant means go to the source,
don't make conclusions based off people's you know, Internet social
media posts, and go to the source. So I invited
them come to Israel. Come to Israel, have the experience
I just had. Go sneak into Syria, or find out

(08:48):
what they're doing there. Go to gaza and see the
pallets and pallets of food. Ask yourself questions like this.
Has there ever been a war in recent history? I
can't think of any, and I I love history, you know,
I can write quite a bit. I don't know any
war where after the counter strike incomes parachute provisions, palettes

(09:12):
and palettes of food. I saw it. I know it's real.
It's coming in from them on It's coming in from Israel.
Who does that. I'm thinking, like, you know Churchill and
the Allies all right, mostly Churchill, you know, had bomb
Dresden right as a counter strike to Hitler. Okay, innocent
people were killed, horrifying little children were killed, babies, women, innocence.

(09:34):
They bombed the city. Well, Hitler did the same to London.
So no one's bad and night. But I'll tell you
what the Allies didn't do. They didn't parachute in food
right away. I mean many many years later. The Marshall
Plan tried to make up for that, but no one
did that. Why why don't you calling all those Allies
just you know, land grabbing predators. You know, Israel's doing

(09:54):
things that no one has done. I'm talking to Drews.
They see the Drewis people are beautiful because they can
help with perspective. Why do they love Israel? They're a
minority group, just like the Palestinians. But why do the
Drews love Israel? Why because they take care of them,
They take care of each other. You know, people open
their eyes and understand that twenty percent of the Kandesset
are made up of minority Muslim Drews. Like minority ethnicities

(10:20):
like this, this is a this is a pluralistic society,
Jerusalem or Israel, and so that's what the Jews they love.
And this Jews soldier I was in their headquarters getting
intel for Syria and this guy starts crying. He's a
surgeon and he's a reserve officer in the idea if
he's drews and he's crying and he's like, please wake
up your people. He's like, Tim, I was in Gaza, okay,

(10:42):
and we knew that the hostages were in a certain place.
But the children are being and the women are being
used as human shields, and they're firing at us at
our location, and we did not fire back because we
didn't want to risk hurting innocent people. And he's crying.
He's like, how do they get this backwards? But if
that was your child and that house, how far would

(11:03):
you go? And we're trying to show restrain. They drop
leaflets at a time, leave because we're gonna bomb. We
don't want to hurt you. And you know what happened
when they started leaving. The Huma starts killing their own people. Right,
they're not their own people. The whole thing is, if
you understand the history of it. It's not some somethno
nation like right, it's made up, yes, or air fats

(11:26):
at Egyptian's not Palestinian, right. I mean, if you know
the history, this is all you've got to spend time.
I tell Cannice and Tucker and everyone else, if you
haven't spent twenty five hours dedicated to reading everything, you
can both sides of the story and use what I
call spiritual intellectualism, which is you've got to You've got
to and they're both God people, both Christians. You've got
to harness the power of God as you're reading, or

(11:49):
you'll violate with what Paul says and Timothy three six.
I believe you can learn and learn and learn and
never come to the knowledge of truth if you don't
employ what I call spiritual intellectualism. I told everybody to
read this book. It's one of many. It's Jonathan khn
He's a master at spiritual and intellectualism. And read it's
called The Dragon Prophecies. I haven't talked to Jonathan conn

(12:10):
in ten years. He didn't ask me to do this.
I just read that book and I got a lot
of perspective. But you got to do a lot of
reading beyond that it's scriptural. This whole concept is killing
me about people on Well, when you say, Israel, you
can't make application of the Old Testament because it's now spiritually,
and they get into this replacement or fulfillment, it's boulegates.
It's not scriptural. Okay, this land is what it is.

(12:30):
It always says been. It's a covenant land. God doesn't
make covenants to break them, and he's eco thirty seven
other references tell us they're gonna come back. Okay, it's
all there, it's all there. And so they justify their
positions again Israel saying, oh, the state of Israel is
not the same as it was. It's corrupt. Well, guess what.
There was corruption in the Old Testament, a whole lot
of it. Go read the Old Testament. It's full of

(12:52):
Jews making horrible mis decisions. Right, and then you have
these righteous kings, you know, the King David comes in,
you have these prophets like Samuel. They're having their own
internal struggle. But it's still a covenant land, right, and
so I tell them to do that. I tell them come,
they said, get your butts over here. You've got to
see it. You got to feel it. You know. The
first thing when I landed is I've worked all around

(13:13):
the Middle East and thirty countries. I've never been here.
It's crazy. The one place I've always want to be,
I never got to come here. But the first thing,
and I've studied these issues for many years, you know,
because you have to, in my opinion, if if you
want to understand American politics, you have to understand the
entire history of this promis land, because America is a
promised land emulated. After they called the Founders called the

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America the new Israel. They were trying to emulate. We
know that it's facts, it's facts. They use the Old
Testament more than any other philosopher, more than Hobbes and
Law and Plutark and Csoro. They consulted the Old Testament,
specifically in the Book of Deuteronomy, which teaches you how
to build one nation under God? How does a covenant?
How does a nation covenant with God to build an
and Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, they

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all made reference to the covenant relationship. And the first
thing I realized when I got to Israel last week,
and I'm driving and I'm like, you know, just being here,
I've just learned a thousand lessons. I'm driving up out
of the Bengurian Airport and there's land everywhere, beautiful land everywhere.
There's no shortage of land here, And I thought, they're

(14:22):
not land grabbers. You think they want this kind of
miserable little strip that borders Egypt, Like they need that
land so bad. The Drews can build and build and
build and build, and they say keep building. They love it. Well,
if I will protect you as you build it, do
you need some supplies, you will help you build it.
They have beautiful villages all over. And then you know
how I have to credit too. Not my favorite president,

(14:43):
but Bill Clinton is being He's showing a lot of
integrity right now. If you're listening to him, he's going,
he's speaking and he gets up on the stage and
he's like, let me talk about Hamas and Noah. They're
all like, yeah, you're gonna beat up his straw and
he literally says, shut up, I'm not gonna say what
you want me to say. He said, I was there
in the in the ninety I think ninety six, and

(15:03):
I helped negotiate a deal between yes, between yes you're
Arafat and aerial Charon. And I'll tell you what, Yes
you're Arafat lied to me. He said, they got They
were going to give them everything they had, the West Bank,
most of the West Bank, all of Gaza. And I
even negotiated for them four percent of any unoccupied land
in Israel as part of their their their own state,

(15:26):
any they could go anywhere. And then he said, and yes,
you lied to me. At the end he said no.
And then Bill Clinton, saying this right now, he said,
and so I had to conclude, and I conclude today
that the reason they say no is because they want
to kill juice. That's why they are here. They want
to kill Jews as part of their sick ideology. And
that's it. And the crowd is quiet because he's not

(15:46):
he's not he's not giving them the coolie they want
to drink. And I got to give it them for
being honest. And that's the truth. That's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Based on way you say, which is experienced, is we
searing right seeing right now? A battle for truth?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Absolutely, it's the same battle. It's the same battle that's
been going on for fourteen hundred years around these lands.
It's the same battle that we thought against MAOIs China
and Nazi Germany and Stalin is Soviet Union. It's the
same Marxist sick ideology just spun in a different way.
Think about everything that political Islam wants is what Stalin wanted.

(16:19):
It's what Mao wanted in China. It's what Hitler wanted power,
you know. And I'm trying to wake people up to
this concept that the beauty of a constitutional republic. And
people hate when we say. Obama says, we can't call
it a Christian nation, and I probably wouldn't call it
that either, except it was based on Judeo Christian principles.
Why is that? We got to ask, why is that

(16:40):
these were Christian people? They love the Jews. Washington loved
the Jews as well. But I would make the argument
that if I'm an atheist, a Muslim, a Buddhist, I
would want to live in a Christian nation because it's
the best. Why Because what those people wanted, but those
founders wanted, was a God experience. That's why live, That's
why I live, That's why you live. We want a

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relationship with our God and our and our cases as
our Lord and city of Jesus Christ. We want that.
And so they built a government first and foremost to
protect what they want most, salvation, a God experience. And
what did Jesus teach, I knock at the door, and
you can answer or not answer. I knock at the door.

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You have to if you don't open And and you
and I both know, because we've had spiritual experiences, you
have to take this. You have to open the door
or the spiritual experience doesn't work. God Jesus didn't say
I'm gonna I'm gonna knock down your door with an
M sixteen to your face and tell you convert, pay
a Jesus Jesua tax, or be killed. There's no God
experience in that. You can't have a God experience. You

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can't be compelled to do it as Satan's plan right,
And so what the Christians founders of the West wanted
was a government that protected the experience, where Jesus can
say I knock at the door and you can answer
or not. Well, I would some of my atheist friends,
don't you want to live in this society because you
have the right to choose Jesus or choose nothing, choose

(18:07):
no God. You can choose whatever you want. Isn't that
what you want? You're blessed to be in a Christian
nation or what I would call a constitution republic because
you get to do whatever you want as long as
you don't interfere in our rights to have our God experience.
That's it. That's the purpose of the government. That's why
the founders built it. And so you don't want to
replace that with shari allah. AOC seems to want to,

(18:30):
those types seem to want to be okay with that.
But you kill the God experience, the very essence of life.
You kill it with shari allah because shari a lah
is compulsion, and with compulsion, like I said, no, there's
no God experience for that.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
What's the message that you want to get a had
you want to get across to Americans?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
My message is this, I see the world in a
very unique place and it's just because of what I do.
I see the world through the eyes of children always.
If I can't if I can't see politics and wars
and conflicts, if I can't see if you guys have children,
will never make sense to me. And once you do that,
the world view changes completely and you start seeing the truth.

(19:09):
Because I look, I believe in good and evil. Okay,
I believe there's I believe there's a demon, there's a devil.
I know that because of what I do for a living.
I look in the eyes of demons all the time.
And it's real. It's a real spiritual battle. And if
people don't don't recognize that, or they're neutral on that,

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you're gonna get so spun up. You're gonna get confused,
and you're gonna get the smoke screen that we're getting
about what's happening here. And so if we believe that,
then you believe that Satan wants to kill, wants to
punch God. He can't though, because God sits in his
throne protected. So if you're the day, if you're the
demon and you can't punch God, you're gonna punch the

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closest thing to God. And I would ask myself, what
is the closest thing on this earth to the image
of God? A sweet child they come, And I've watched
seven babies come out of my wife, okay, in the
miracle of life. And you watch that process, you tell
me there's no God and you're crazy. Uh, And that's
what If I can get the children and abuse and

(20:14):
hit them, that's his fastest way that he thinks he's
punching God, right, And so children will always be at
the end of this. So I just told you how
whatever the evil ideology is of oppression, whether it's wearing
a stal in his uniform, a Maoish uniform, a Nazi uniform,
or a political Islamis uniform, it's the same evil ideology
at the base of all those ideologies. If you study
the history of Mao's China, of the Soviet Union, political Islam,

(20:39):
you know what they all do. They have one thing
in common. They all hurt kids. They usually the form
of sexual abuse, slave markets, every one of those, that's
what they produce. And so that's why we need to
look at the eyes of the most victimized, and please,
I asked the world look a look at it through
those eyes, and things become clear, and the spiritual war
becomes clear. And you want to protect children. So if

(21:01):
you want to protect children, what do you do? Oh,
you do this. You do this if you're the Idea,
if you do this, if you're the Jews, you do this.
If you're an American. It becomes very clear when you
consider a policy decision and your first and last question
is how does this affect children? Everything becomes a lot clear.
So I ask people to please do that. Look at
the world through the eyes of a suffering child. Pretend
you're that child. What would you want for that child?

(21:23):
Do you want that child in Palestine? In Gaza? Do
you want that child to be given a gun and
kindergarten a fake gun and march around saying kill the Jews,
kill the Jews. Is that what you want? No, No,
you don't want that. You want to rescue that child
from that situation. I would like to go rescue every
child in Gaza from first and foremost Hamas. Okay, not Israel.
Though I understand the claddal damage and the moral predicament

(21:45):
that they are in. It stinks, But those kids are
being used as human shields, all right. It's the craziest thing.
I tell my wife the other day, I was like,
what if one of our kids kept going around and
lighting our neighbor's houses on fire, right, and then those
neighbors came back and said, what are you doing? Stop?
And then they did it again, and then they then
they throw rocks to our windows to stop us. Okay,

(22:06):
I'd be mad at my neighbor probably, but I'd be
more mad at my kid and said, you know what,
knock it off. You're grounded. Stop doing this right, And
that's what That's what I hope the cousins people they
can't cause they're all the control they need. They need
to shut shut down mamas. Hamas is getting them in trouble,
using them as human shields. I ache for the children,

(22:27):
and guy said, I ache for them. I'd like to
figure out a way to go rescue them from this situation.
But you've got to knock out their oppressors. Their oppressors
are Hamas. The Center for Democracy and Peace just put
out these videos they leaked out. These brave Gusins are
putting out like we don't want to be here. They're
raiding the food storage that Hamas is keeping from them,
that Israel's trying to give them. They're selling the food.

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And then the stupid media is doing these fake photo shoots.
We see it. We caught them. They're you know, they're
using false kids who have cerebral Palsyes, so look at
they're starving. Oh no, the brother is healthy. Cut him
out so they're lying. You can't don't lie. That's not
being Matthew eighteen compliant. And if you know, if you're
not Mathew eighteen complaint, at the end of the day,
it's children who get hurt. Does that make sense? Or

(23:10):
am I saying too much? What would you say?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
What's your mess your message? But what would you want
Americans or anybody listening to this to do and how
to pray?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well? Right now, I would ask people to go to
the tien Valland Foundation TBF rescue dot org. We literally
stood the foundation up for right now for the main
purpose of getting of rescuing the kids in this whole region.
We're starting. We're starting in Syria. We're going to go
to Gaza. And I'm telling you, the people who are
gonna help me do it first and foremost are the

(23:41):
same people who are helping us work in southern Syria.
The idea f they want those kids out of there too.
They do. I've talked to them, They've wept, but in
front of me, they don't like it either. They don't
like this kids are getting hurt, but they're kind of
stuck because their kids are gonna get hurt. It's horrible.
They're counter striking, right, So help us TBF rescue dot org.

(24:03):
Go donate what you can because we're not going anywhere.
We're here, We're sending about office here, We're not Those
are gonna be years and years of work.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
What would you say to the media.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I'd say, stop being lying pieces of bleep. You're lying,
and those who aren't lying you're being deceived. Look, I
just watched this interview. I love Tucker, but I have
to be honest. He has this nun. She has this
interview he did with this nun. I don't know what
kind of nun she is. It was gross. It was gross.
You know what she's saying in the interview is you know, Oh,

(24:36):
the Christians are being persecuted in Israel. Oh, Israel's the
worst place to be if you're a Christian. Are you
kidding me? You've been a Christian here for thirty years.
Do you feel persecuted by the Jeus? Are you kidding me?
They love us. I'm wearing my cross hat all day.
I wouldn't do that when I'm working in Iraq. Look
at Lebanon. It used to be a Christian nation. Now

(24:56):
it's like less than twenty percent. They're only two hundred
thousand Christians left and rack right now. And this woman's trying,
and Tucker's giving voice to this woman who's lying saying
it's better to be a Christian in one of the
other Middle Eastern countries. They cherish our Christian sites, they
take care of our Christian sites. If I was, if
I lived there, I mean, how many American Jews live here?
They fight for the IDF. It's it's ridiculous. But the

(25:18):
argument is so backwards, it's so twisted. And this is
what I say, Tucker, Candice, be Matthew eighteen compliant. You
believe in the Bible. Go read Bathu eighteen. Come here,
go to the source. Don't don't follow every wind of
doctrine that takes you anywhere. You stand for nothing, You're
gonna fall for anything. Stand for something is starting the Bible.
It starts there. And what this Christian woman none is

(25:40):
saying is, oh, you know all the places of the
Christian sites from Bethlehem to Jacob's Well to so on
and so forth. You know, they're getting beat up by
the occupation. They like wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait,
back up, back up in the eighties, Bethlehem was eighty
percent Christian. Now it's less than ten percent Christian. So
those break Christians who still want to stay in Bethlehem.

(26:02):
When when when when the folks and Bethlehem come out
and start attacking and start writing and being terrorists, there's
anna big response. There's collateral damage, which are the remaining
Christians there? Okay, it's not the intent of the idea
to hurt the Christians. It's akin to saying, look during
Nazi Germany occupation of the world, right, if you if
you were the few Christians who wanted to huddle up

(26:24):
next to Hitler's tent for whatever reason, good, bad, or ugly,
and you decide to do that, when the Allies bomb
and you get hurt, don't pretend that that that that
the Allies wanted to hurt Christians. They didn't. You were there.
They wanted to hurt Hitler. And that's that's the the
the ass backwards h logic that Tucker's allowing to be

(26:46):
spewed on his show. It's not true. What I said
is true. That's what's true. I wish to God they
never conceded the land in Bethlehem. It's it's you know
it's it's but they did. They made those decisions with
optimism and hope that that the ideology wasn't to kill,
but it is to kill. You give them land, Thank you.
Now you have a better shot at your face. That's

(27:08):
their ideology. It's not they're not gonna seek peace. They're
gonna seek jihad, which means death to the infidel, or
you can pay our Ji's attacks and live under our
our rule an oppression. It's and so I don't like that.
I don't like that they're doing that. They're not being
they're not being intellectually honest, they're not being Matthew eighteen compliant.
They should come to Bethlam. I was in Beflam a

(27:28):
few days ago. Come to Bethlehem. Understand what I just
told you is true. It is true. And this woman
is spewing this, this nun is spewing lies. Maybe she's
deceived and she doesn't know she's lying because she's not
being Matthew eighteen compliant. But it's not true. It's twisted.
It's twisted, twisted history.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, so when you went into Syria, what did you
see in here?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Hell? Hell, I am I watched there's an eight year
old girl who died in front of me. Do you
know how hard it is to watch a child die?
I have eight children, you know, nine children. I can't
see a child without automatically superimposing my child's face. It

(28:13):
just happens. Do you know what it's like to watch
a child die? It is hell. It's horrifying. Another little girl,
eight years old. I want to say their names because
it's how personal, but I can't. But I know their names.
I pray for them every day, all day. Her face.
She watched her family in sway that be gunned down

(28:35):
by the giadist and they shot her, but they misaimed,
and she came from the side, blew off her face.
Her nose is gone, her eyes out, but she lived.
I almost wish she had died and could be in
the arm to Jesus. But she's going to live, and
she's going to have Hell visit her entire life. So

(28:58):
that's what I got to see, Okay, And and and
and that's what people don't. They want to tweet and
twitter and blah blah blah. And they don't want to
see that, obviously because I'm not paying attention. That's what
I see. And and then a beautiful thing happened. This
was a God moment. So two days ago, I think
it was like my body's I doesn't know what time

(29:18):
it is, but we were in Syria and and we
got this little girl out, this little Jewish girl, and
it was like such a beautiful God moment. And she
had some issues because of the trauma. And I had
her in my arms and I was taking her into
the into the idea of medical tent. She was screaming

(29:42):
in pain and her mom was inside and we're trying
to get her to her mom and to the doctors.
And then I am I'm holding her and she's just
screaming in pain. And you know, having you know, being
a father and a grandfather, even it's horrifying when your
child is in pain, right, it's the worst cheeling and
you're helpless, and and I gave the little girl to

(30:02):
her mom and then and there's if you go on
my if you go on my instagram, Tim Ballad eight
N and I have the pictures of this and I
tell the story and we filmed the whole thing too.
And then this little girl, the mom's holding her and
the doctor's consultings, she's trying to explain the issues she has,
all sorts of cardiovascular issues from the trauma. And I
mean buildings were falling all over people, and that's how

(30:22):
the other little girl died, and and and so I
stand behind her. And to the point I made earlier
about what the image of God looks like, I mean,
we all are an image of God. But children, especially
anyone who has watched a baby be born and raised
a child knows what I'm talking about. They are pure
and they speak if you listen to them, the angels

(30:46):
or the Holy Spirit, whatever it is, will speak through them.
I know this. I'm an expert and and and and
learning what a child is telling you, that God is
telling you through that pure vessel. And I just stand
behind her and we lock eyes. And anyone who knows
a two month old, right, they don't walck eyes yet

(31:06):
they'll look at you for two seconds. You're like, yeah, go,
they're gone. You know, you just want to This little
girl locked eyes for four minutes, hardly blinked, and she
starts smiling at me. Go look at the pictures. In fact,
you should post them on your show. You've never seen,
says Angelic Eyes. And I thought I was there to
comfort her. There's the opposite. She was comforting me and

(31:29):
I saw God everywhere. I'm not embarrassed to say it
because I know it. I know it's true. She was
comforting me and telling me. And it was in that
moment that my mind went back to Iraq and I
have the idea like aha, based on the intel we
gathered that day, I realized the plan be employed in
Iraq to rescue the Zadian Christians is gonna work. Here,

(31:51):
It's gonna work. But it was in that moment of
divining communication and this little girl just go look at
the picture, and the picture says it better than than
I can with a thousand words. Look at her eyes
and you tell me you don't see God in her eyes?
And uh? And she she? In fact? Can I just
show you me, just show me the picture because I don't.

(32:14):
I don't want you to think I'm a liar. I
can't make I can't make this stuff up if I
wanted to. So so this is this is this is me.
We blurt out all the ideas, folks, and this I'm
taking her into the tent and then I take her

(32:34):
to her mom and then I sit behind her like this, Okay,
look at those little eyes.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And then here she is a look at these little
eyes that happened for four minutes straight. That doesn't happen.
And she was actually calming me. I wasn't calming her.
She was comforting me, and she was telling me you
can do this. God has a plan. Save us, say
save us, you can do it. And it was just like,

(33:04):
you know, you need those tender mercies when you're in hell.
I thank God for those tender mercies. Otherwise you just
give up, to give up, and instead I'm encouraged more
than ever.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
So you saw that inside Syria, and then from there
you saw what the idea was doing.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh yeah, we're nothing compared to what they're doing. I
don't have to find provisions and divert them into Syria.
They already got them. They're just trying to figure out
how to get them to the villages, the Christian villages.
There's mountain villages up there with Christians, and they're already
doing it. They're already doing it. And we're just praying

(33:45):
that the roads get liberated. You know, I keep saying
hashtag liberate the roads, liberate the highways. Right now they're
not liberated, and so we can't get things to them,
but there's ways to get them out. And we're and
we've begun that, we've spun up phase two. We're going,
We're so and yet that story seldom told, hardly ever told.

(34:05):
You're probably the first one to tell the story right here,
right now. Truly, this will be the first one that
airs probably about what is actually happening.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Set the image of many people have the idea.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
For reason, they don't want to. They would rather think
how sick this is. They would rather falsely demonize the
IDF than see children and be rescued. What a horrific
commentary on our people. They would rather continue a false
narrative that demonize the IDF. They would rather no one
rescue those kids than IDF rescues those kids. The same

(34:39):
thing happened with Trump. The first time I met with
Trump back in twenty nineteen, he called me into the
White House. He saw me in the Lord Ingram Shones.
Just the next day, come to the White House. Okay,
so I'm meeting with them talking about a thing we
both love, which is rescuing children from the southern border.
I spent ten years as a specializer on that border,
and so we come up with plans. I end up
getting a position of the White House consulting on that issue.

(35:00):
I'm working with cash MATEL and others. And I came
out of that White House and my my, my development team.
The fundraisers started calling me, Oh my gosh, Tom, we
just lost a thousand donors because you met with him,
because people have, you know, Trump derangement syndrome, and you
met with him, and you got to call him and
tell them that you would have you would have gone
to Obama and Biden and I would have I would

(35:20):
have gone to I would have run Jesus vest and
said the same thing, because I don't care. I'm not
a politician. I don't like politicians. I just want to
risk your kids, you know, with I'll shake hands with
the dictator if I have to. If that's the power
I need to go rescue a child, of course I will.
And they said call them, call them, and I said no,
I said, I'm not calling any of them because they

(35:41):
just broadcast something to me that's a very important message.
They just told me that they hate one man or
one party more than they love rescuing children from sex slavery,
and if that's who they are, I want nothing to
do with them. I don't need that very low vibration

(36:03):
in my life. That's sick, that's gross, and that's what's
happening right now. They would rather have these children be raped,
be headed, tossed off roofs, then support the IDEF going
in and rescue in them. And that's gross. And I
am here to scream as loud as I can to
change hearts and tell them that there's nothing more important
than rescuing children from being raped. Therefore, you can work

(36:26):
with anyone. And by the way, learn the true story
of the IDEAF in Israel, because it's not what you
think anyway. That's my message.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Any final thoughts, tim and would it closes in prayer?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I would love to. And my final thought is, guys,
Jesus told us what to do in these situations. Be
Matthew eighteen. Comply it, okay, Be honest with God and
with yourself. Children's lives are at stake. Stop playing political
games over this. It's not going to be a good
day for you when you meet Jesus. If that's what
actually the Christians who are doing it like, wake up

(37:02):
read Matthew eighteen read Revelation three. I can be rof
on that. But the lukewarm don't be a lukewarm. Jesus says,
you know you are neither hot nor cold. You were lukewarm.
Therefore I'll vomit you out of my mouth. That's the
lukewarm people that have the cloak of righteousness and they

(37:25):
don't apply they're not Matthew eighteen comply it, and so
they just say what they want with some kind of
fake authority. They're they're in the biggest trouble. The hottest
seat in hill is for them. They're the next level evil.
They're Pharisees. That Pharisees, this next level evil. You're using
the cloak of God to wreak havoc and persecute innocent
people and in the end hurt children in the effort
to rescue children. I think that's the hottest seat in

(37:47):
hell personally, because you're using sacred truths and turning them
into political poker chips for your own gain. That's what
the Pharisees did. And the scary thing about Pharisees is
the Pharisees didn't know they were Pharisees and that's a
very scary thought. They didn't know. They thought the whole
time until they died, they were doing dots work by

(38:09):
killing Jesus. They read from the very book that this
guy wrote, and they think they're taking his instructions and
then killing him. It's the most ironic, demonic thing I
can think of. And so I would tell the Christian people, especially,
be Matthew eighteen compliant. Jesus told you what to do
in conflict. Why did World War One happen because people

(38:32):
weren't Matthew eighteen compliant. Millions of lives would be saved
if you were just Matthew eighteen compliant. And most people aren't.
Go to that person, Go to the source. Go to
the person. If you want to talk about Israel, Tucker
and Candace come to Israel. I'll come with you. I
love them. Candace has supported our rescue efforts for years.

(38:52):
She's donated quietly so much way. I love Candie owns.
I love her, and I don't understand what. I just
want to say, Well, you just be open enough to come. Come.
I will come with Candace. I will come with Tucker.
I will come. I will take them across the border.
I will show them the kids. I will walk them
into gaza. I will let them meet a Drew's idea
of soldier and get their perspective. Why do the Drews

(39:13):
love them if they're predatory land grabbers and this is
a pedophile state and all these things. Ask the drewis
soldier why he loves Israel? How come every time I
went into a Drew's house, the idea of soldiers came
in and they hugged and drank coffee. And what's going on?
This is not what the message I'm getting from Candace
and Tucker right now. So I would invite Candace come
with me. I love her, I love her husband, I

(39:35):
love her family. We're friends. Come with me. I will
show you, and I won't all shut up. Just you
ask questions. No one's paying me, No one's paying me anything.
We're gonna be out for a long time. Come and
just look. That's what I asked people to do, because
so much as at stake, children's lives are at stake
if you aren't Matthew eighteen compliant, And so I would

(39:55):
ask I would ask her to do that, and Tucker
as well, and anyone else who wants to know the truth.
You can't, especially these days, you can't get the truth
by scrolling through the internet. You're gonna actually have the
opposite of that. You're gonna call evil good and good evil.
That's prophesied. That's where we're living right now. You have
to go to the source more than ever. We used
to have Walter Cronkites where we can actually trust the news.

(40:15):
You can't do that. You've got to put extra effort,
extra Matthew eighteen complaint on steroids. You've got to come
to the place. I tell people read. Spend twenty hours
at least before you start commenting, because commenting could be
hurting your own country or your own children. And both sides.
I'm not limited read everything. Read both sides. Get the

(40:36):
best Islamic scholar that's gonna justify why the Jew why
the why the Jews are hurting them? Read it and
be open to that too, see their perspective. Twenty hours minimum,
and a visit to Israel for at least a week.
Then go talk and if we haven't convinced you, then
say what you want to say. But at least you're
Matthew eighteen. At least you can tell God you tried

(40:57):
to be Matthew eighteen complaining. Right, so's my ask, Yeah,
put your closest in prayer. Thank you, our Father and Heaven.
We are so grateful that we can just be humble
tools in your hand, Father, and just help us to
just keep that childlike humility, and help us to see
the world through those through the children's eyes, because you,

(41:18):
we know you talk to us through them. And please
bless the hearts of the West. Well it will soften
and be humble at least to the point that they
will be as honest as they can. And and and
understand that the words matter, words matter, ideologies matter. If

(41:39):
you get it wrong, a child could be dead at
the end of that road. And that's real. And so please, Father,
help people see the world through the eyes of children,
and and and and just soften their hearts and just
be humble and listen. And we are we are grateful
Father for the opportunity we have had in my team,
that we've had to work so closely with such amazing people,

(42:03):
including the the, the the, the, the Drews, beautiful beautiful,
God fearing, God loving Drew's people and and and and
their partners in this The the the the idea of
soldiers who are volunteering, volunteering to go across the border
into hell because they love people regardless of creed, nationality,

(42:24):
or in the city. Father, I saw it. I watched
them do it. And we're so grateful that we are
just honored to be able to serve alongside these people
who don't let ideology or religion or thought get in
the way other than serving you. And the best way
to serve you, we know, Father, is to serve your children.
When we serve the least of the of these, Father,
we know we're serving you, and help help the world

(42:47):
to see that and and that they'll come to a
place of truth, and that they will not continue to
learn and learn but never come to the knowledge of truth,
as as Paul teaches us, help them to use spiritual
intellectualism for lack of a better term, to read and
learn with your spirit and get to the place of

(43:08):
truth so that we cannot further allow lies to hurt children.
And we're just grateful, Father, We're grateful for your son,
for his atoning sacrifice, for the opportunity to make mistakes
and learn but still be cleaned through his blood. What
a blessing What a blessing to be able to make
mistakes still and still be worthy to at least be

(43:31):
tools in your hand. And these things we pray, Father,
blessing all the people of this land, of all nationality, creeds,
and ethnicity. Bless them all, they're all your children. And
help us to love one another and learn to love
you most of all. And these things we pray in
the name of our Savior, our Shepherd, the King of Israel,
Father Jesus Christ. Amen.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Hope you enjoyed this podcast with Tim Ballads such a
passionate man with the love of the Lord. It's really infectious.
So please check out his website and pray for the
people of Syria, the people of Israel, and the people
of Gaza right now. And we look forward to seeing
you next week. And please share this podcast with people

(44:14):
that you know. In love, God bless