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Hey everyone, thanks for joining us today on Pastor Rick's
Daily Hope.
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This is the place.
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Where Rick Warren brings you uplifting messages from God's Word
every day to help you grow deeper in faith and
live a life with purpose. Today we're continuing in a
powerful series called Toolbox for Life. In this series, Rick
teaches us four essential skills that you need to succeed
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wherever God has placed you, whether it's at home, at work,
at school, or in your community. These are tools that
every follower of Jesus absolutely needs. Okay, now here's Rick
with part two of a message called Ignoring the Naysayers.
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One time.
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Moses sent twelve spies in the spy out the Promised Land.
Two of them came back with a positive fort saying
we whipped these guys. God's prepared the place for us,
We're ready. And ten of them came back with the
negative report, said we can't do it. We're little weaklings.
Were like insects in their eyes, and that's typical. The
majority of people were against it, and they could have
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stayed out of the Promised Land. In fact, they did
for another forty years because of a negative report. Because
the majority was wrong God had already brought him out
of Egypt. Don't you think he'd take him into Israel? Yes,
but the majority said we can't do it, and the
negativity spread around, and so we have first delay, and
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second we have discouragement. Now why had everybody given up
in Israel? Because they were listening to the wrong voices?
Verse sixteen says, for forty days, twice a day, morning
and evening, this philistine giant is Goliath loudly berated the
Israelite army. So every day they're hearing for forty days,
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morning and evening, You guys suck.
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You guys are weak. You guys are losers.
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You're never going to make You know what, If you
listen to that long enough, you're gonna believe it. So
here's my question, who are you listening to about your life?
Are you listening to people who say you'll never amount
to anything? You can't do it?
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You know what?
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You may be listening to yourself. You lie to yourself
all the time. Did you know that just because you
say something to yourself doesn't mean it's true. A lot
of times you say things are good when they're not.
Lots of times you say they're bad. When when they're not.
And so just because you tell yourself something doesn't mean
it's true. What voices are you listening to? You need
to be listening to God. If you listen to negative
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statements long enough, you're gonna become negative. You get paralyzed.
And sometimes when you're in a work, you're an officer
in a project, and everybody says, this problem cannot be solved.
What you need is a fresh set of eyes and
a fresh set of ears from the outside. And that's
what happened when David, the little shepherd boy shows up
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on the scene. He hadn't been on the front line
listening to this negativity every day, morning and evening, day
after day, week after week, month after month.
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He wasn't infected with it. A new guy comes in
that we can do this. I'll take this guy on.
God's with me, God's with you.
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We can win this. It takes an outsider. The Bible
says this in verse twenty three. As David talked with
his brothers on the front line, they were fighting.
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He'd just just going to visit them.
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He saw Goliath start shouting his usual threats to Israel's army,
and when the army heard Goliath. They all ran away
in terror. If you don't get anything else, get this today.
Don't hang around negative people. Your best friends should not
be naysayers. If they are, they're not your best friend
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because they're holding you back through discouragement and delay. Now
there's a third naysayer David had to deal with, and
this actually was his own brother, his elder brother.
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Right this down.
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A third kind of people is his brother questioned his
motives and that was a hindrance. And they're gonna be
people who question your motives. When you share a big dream,
they just think you're on an ego trip. When you
share a big goal, they just think you know you
don't know what you're talking about. They don't know that
you're trusting God. This is the barrier of disapproval. There's
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the barrier of delay, there's the barrier of discouragement, and
there's the barrier of disapproval. Now, this is the one
that hurts the most because we all want to be liked.
We want people to approve of us, particularly our own family.
We want our own family to think we're cool. And
so when a relative, particularly a family member, thinks you're
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not cool, that's hurtful. You're always gonna have naysayers, and
you may even have them in your closest relationships. Now
here's an example, where's brother questions David's motives. David sees
what's going on, and he sees this wath out there,
and everybody's afraid to take him on. And in verse
twenty eight, David asked, what's the reward for killing this guy?
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For killing this philistine? What's the reward for killing this
philistine and ending this disgraceful abuse. Now, when David's older
brother heard this, he heard David ask this question, he
burned with anger at David.
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Okay, this guy's jealous.
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He doesn't like his younger brother asking those questions about
taking on Goliath, and his david older brother says, why are.
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You even here anyway?
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Why aren't you taking care of your scrawny little flock
of sheep, you cocky little brat. Then this sound like
sibling rivalry, you cocky little brat. I know how conceited
you are. Now let me ask you who's really the
conceited one here? It's the older brother. I know how
conceited you are. Now what have I done?
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Said David? Can I even ask a question. Can't you
hear the youngest.
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Person in the family saying that, now, what have I done?
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Now? What have I done?
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You know, all I did was ask a question, what's
the reward for killing this guy? David's older brother questions
David's motives. He treats him with disdain, He treats him
with disgust, with disregard, he belittles him. I hate to
tell you this, but sometimes there are family members in
your family who don't want you to succeed at your dream.
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It upsets the apple cart, It changes the equation, It
shakes up the system.
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Who's really conceded?
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Here the brother And by the way, people often misinterpret
confidence in God as conceit. David has great confidence in God.
His older brother does not. And when David goes, I'll
take this guy on, David's all the brothers, you're nuts,
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You're just conceited, You're egotist, You're a conceited little brat.
And people who don't hear God judge people who hear
God as cocky and conceited, and they go, what do
you think you are?
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Well, that's not it.
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I remember years ago when we bought the first piece
of property for Saddleback Church. It was this property like
Forest Campus. We now are going to have sixteen campuses,
and this is one hundred and twenty acres and it's
very expensive piece of property. And I remember rumors got
out all over South Orange County that this little church,
because we only had about a thousand people at that time,
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was going to go try to buy one hundred and
twenty acres. And so I would go around in South
County while we were trying to get this property, and
I would hear people in the barbershop and in the
grocery store going, who do those people think they are?
That saddle Backed church. They're going out there buying something.
They're buying more land than Saddleback College. They're buying more
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land than Saddleback Hospital. Who does that church think they're
they're gonna go buy? I don't know any church in
California that is one hundred and twenty eighth youre campus.
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Who do they think they are?
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And the noise got so loud I actually had to
address it, and one Sunday I got up and I said,
you know, I know, you guys are hearing these rumors
to the community, and they're asking the.
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Question who do those people at saddleback think they are?
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I said, they're asking the wrong question. The question is
not who do we think we are? The question is
who do we think God is?
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All Right, you.
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Let the size of your God determine the size of
your goal. If you only attempt in life what you
can do in your own power, you're gonna have a
puny little life because you can't accomplish much just by yourself.
But if you let the size of your God determine
the size of your goal, then.
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You're going to have a big God. You're going to
have a big goal.
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And you you only know a goal is from God
when you can't do it in your own power. If
your goal in life is something you're going to achieve
on your own, it's not a goal from God. Because
God will give you a goal that will so stretch
you and grow you and deepen you and pull you
and challenge your faith. It'll be so big you're bound
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to fail unless God bails you out. That's the kind
of goals that God gives. And so you know, the
people on the.
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Outside, they go those people are cocky.
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Listen, when God gives you a dream and it's really
from God that others have attempted and maybe failed. That
you will be misjudged, you will be misunderstood, you will
be maligned, you will be called cocky or arrogant, or
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out of touch with real or whatever. But they haven't
heard what God told you to do with your life. Now,
by the way, when David asked this question, what's the
reward for killing Goliath? He did actually find out the answer,
and there were three rewards for anybody who would kill
this giant. Number one, you would be given massive amounts
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of wealth and you would instantly become one of the
wealthiest people in the nation of Israel. Second, you were
given the king's daughter, Saul's daughter to marry. And Third,
this is the best of all, you were exempt from
taxes the rest of your life.
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Are you kidding me?
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I would have gone after Goliath for that one no
taxes the rest of my life. Those were the three
rewards for anybody who took on Goliath. But there was
this brother who said, you're doing this out of ego.
Now there was a fourth naysayer, And I want you
to write this down because all four of these you
have to deal with discouragement and disapproval. And the fourth
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one is the experts. So write this down. The experts
doubted his ability, and in your life there will be
experts who doubt your ability. And David had never served
in a war. He had no military training. He wasn't
an army ranger, he wasn't a Navy seal, he wasn't
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a Delta Force, he wasn't special ops. He had no
training at all as a professional warrior. The only thing
he had is he had a little slingshot, and he
knew how to use it real well. He once killed
a bear and once killed a lion.
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These are in the.
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Days when there's a lot more animals, obviously in Israel.
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To protect the sheep.
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So he had killed things with his slingshot. But he
had no professional training. And all the authorities and all
the experts and all of the professionals said.
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This kid can't do it.
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He's a pipsqueak, he's an amateur.
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He can't do it.
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And so when Kings here's about David volunteering, this little
shepherd boy, volunteering to take on a giant that everybody
else has been afraid to take on. Saul calls him
to his office and David says this verse.
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Thirty two in the Bible.
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David says to Saul, don't worry about a thing. David
told the king, I'll fight this philistine. Don't be ridiculous.
Saul replied, there's no way that you, a shepherd boy,
can go against this philistine, this giant. You're only a boy,
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and he's been a professional warrior all his life. Circle
that word professional. He's saying, leave this matter to the experts. David,
you are inexperienced. You should leave it to the pros.
And I'm going to tell you this that in your
life there will be people who will say that to you.
You're not a pro at this. Why are you even
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trying to start this business, Why are you're even doing
this hobby? Why are you trying to build this ministry?
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You're not a.
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Pro at this. Leave this to the experts. You're an amateur.
I want to tell you, just like I said that
the majority is often wrong. The experts are often wrong,
not always right. I have here this is a copy
of a very famous letter now in the publishing world.
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It was written to me by a publisher in the
middle of two thousand and two. When I was writing
the book Purpose Driven Life. And I had sent the
publisher the first draft of the book, and this publisher
expert wrote back a three page letter on why this
book would never, never, never sell a copy. For those
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who don't know, it became the best selling book in
the world for four years. It became the best selling
book in world history. Sixty two million Americans read The
Purpose Driven Life. It's translated in one hundred and thirty
seven languages. It's the most translated book in the world
except for the Bible. But the expert said, nobody's going
to read this book. And then he gives me five
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reasons why purpose Driven Life would never never sell.
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And then this is the clincher. He says.
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His recommendation on page three is that I hire a
freelance writer, a professional to rewrite the book. Well, I
politely wrote back and said, thank you, I'll take it
to another publisher. I believe this book could make history. Now,
some people would say that's cocky. No no, no, God
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had told me to write the book. I'm not a
professional writer. I'm a pastor. I've never taken a class
on writing. I want to remind you that the arc
Noah and the Arc that saved the world was built
by amateurs. Professionals built the Titanic. I am an amateur.
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I'm an amateur pastor.
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You know what. I love the word amateur.
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I'm proud of why because amateur means it comes from
the Greek the Latin word amour or amore.
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You know love.
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An amateur does it for the love a professionals paid
to do it. I'm not paid to be pastor of
this church. I do it for free. I don't take
a salary. You know that I'm an amateur pastor. I
do it for free.
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I do it out of love, not out of money.
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But the professionals are, the experts are often wrong by
the way I would. Before I go on, I want
to mention how did David learn about Goliath? Since he
was just a shepherd boy working back in the fields.
His dad had held him back because he was willing
to serve in small always. And God said, you've been
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faithful there, and I'm going to let you have a
bigger opportunity.
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Let me show your verse. Look up here on the screen. First.
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Samuel seventeen says this, David's father said to David, take
this bread to your brothers. On the front line and
take this cheese to their commander. That's how he ended
up going up to the battle scene seeing Goliath, goes, oh, I'll.
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Take that guy on.
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He wouldn't have seen him if he hadn't been able
to had been saying his dad said, take this bread
and take this cheese.
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Now, here's the moral of the story.
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Before you get to David and to fighting Goliath, you
may have to serve some cheese and crackers.
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Are you willing to do that or that beneath you?
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God looks for people who are willing to do the
little things before he gives them the big things. God
looks for people who are willing to do the insignificant
ministry before he gives them the heroic ministry. Are you
willing to serve cheese and crackers? Or you just want
to go take on goal? David proves faithful even in
the little things of life. Are you faithful? Have you
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been proven faithful in the little things of life? Do
you do the little things that nobody else sees that
shows your faithfulness to God? And God says, I'm going
to let you take on Goliath.
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So he did that.
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I will tell you this, I've learned this from personal experience.
Small kindnesses often open the door to bigger and better opportunities.
Sometimes you just be kind to somebody out of just
being kind, and it opens the door to bigger, wider
It puts you in the right place at the right time,
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And that's what.
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Happened with Goliath and David.
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Now, how do you handle the naysayers in your life?
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There are four things you need to do.
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This is a skill you have to learn if you're
ever going to be a leader.
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So let me give this to you. Write these down
four things.
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That David did, the skills of leadership on how to
handle the naysayers in your life, whether it's a parent
or a brother, or the crowd or the experts, whether
it's delay or doubt, or discouragement or disappointment or disapproval, whatever.
Here's the first thing the naysayers in your life. Number one,
remember they are not God. They may be good people,
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they may love you, they may be great people, but
they're not God, and so don't treat their opinion like
it's God's opinion. Remember they are not God. The people
who are negative in your life. Proverbs twenty nine, Verse
twenty five says this. The fear of human opinion disables,
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but trusting in God protects you from that. I love
that the message. Some of you are disabled and don't
know it. You have a disability. You know what your
disability is. You're addicted to the approval of others, and
that's your disability. The fear of human opinion disables, but
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trusting in God protects you from that. When you trust
in God, you don't worry about the opinion of other people.
Today's English version says it's dangerous to be concerned with
what other people think of you. What other people think
of you is none of your business. What other people
think of you as none of your business. You shouldn't
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care about what other people. You should only care about
what God thinks of you. And if you care about
what other people think of you, you'll get paralyzed. You'll
won't attempt things. Some of you have been locked in
a prison of self made fear, and my job is
your pastors to help open that door, help you break
the chain, help you get out and become who God
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wanted you be. To go after that dream, you'll get
sidetracked from God's purpose for your life.
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If you're living for somebody else's purpose.
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Such a great message from Pastor Rick today, and I
hope you were just as encouraged as I was. You know,
the truth is desire and determination alone aren't enough to
succeed in life. So many people already work so hard,
but real success isn't just about working harder. It's about
working smarter. It's about working God's way. Did you know
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that the Bible is packed with practical instruction to help
you do just that. Yeah, that's why Pastor Rick Warren
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you'll discover and develop for essential, real life success building
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