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Speaker 1 (00:00):
God's trying to tell us that he's getting involved. So
he's giving us signs.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Your servitus, inservity, law, yours, and it comes into the
houses under righteousness, hands of the righteousness.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're called by God to stand up in the authority
of the name of Jesus and cast the devil ouch.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hello, and welcome to new level. We're hanking Brenda Kooneman,
and God is on your side. In fact, he's fighting
for you. We're so thrilled that you joined us because
the Lord is in the fight. That's right. We are
in the time when God is fighting for us. Well,
we have some very special guests that's going to talk
about some of the things that the Lord is doing
in this day and what our role is to fight
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alongside with God. Well, that's welcome our great friends Jean
and Terry Bailey.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You guys are no strangers, right, No, No, this is
our second home.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, thank you for being here. So Britta, let's ask
them some questions because I want to get into as
much as we can.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, thank you again, guys for being on the broadcast today.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But we're going to let you take it away.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We want to talk a little bit about you have
an amazing book out called Flashpoint of Revival, And of course, Jean,
people know you from Flashpoint. And by the way, what
a blessing that has been around the world continues to be.
It's just been a source of hope. It's been it's
brought just a change to our thinking regarding culture, evangelism,
our role as the body of Christ. But I do
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hear you talk a lot about revival. This has been
your lifeblood. You've studied the history of revival, revival, and
of course I know you share this in the book.
But where are we at right now regarding revival?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Where is.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm just going to turn you loose to discuss what
is in your spirit regarding the church and where we're
going with that.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, I think we're in the middle of revival.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
But we didn't think it would look like this, and
we thought it would be just a wonderful We'd walk
in and there be signs and wonders and everywhere, And
there are signs and wonders, and it's amazing. In a
time where we have such great technology and the internet
and video everywhere, we still don't see there are miracles happening,
but they don't get shared.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
A lot. That's true because people are scared. People don't
want to, you know, push the envelope. But listen, we
are in.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
The reason we wrote the book Flashpoint of Revival was this,
I have a program, another television show that not everybody realizes.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It's Revival Radio TV and where that's been going.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We have hundreds of hours of shows about the history
of Revival and I really thought, Hank and Brenda, that's
what we would be we would be doing, you know.
I My goal was to have a tent somewhere and
let's go see God move. And I still love being
in the tent. So that's why we always gravitate towards
the tent. But the understanding when Flashpoint came around and
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suddenly you're looking at politics and culture. I had a
lot of minister friends come and say, well, I guess
you're you know, you're you're.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Kind of doing this politics thing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You're not really you know, you're not going down that
revival path. And I mean that's almost a quote, and
I'm like, no, they're the same thing.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
We just never looked at it that way.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
We have to change the way we see what's going
on in America because if we don't get this right.
When we started in twenty twenty, the point was, if
we don't get America right, you can forget your five
oh one c. Three, You can forget being the freedom
of religion in America. It must be we must be
involved in every aspect because we do want to win
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the loss. We do want to see signe wonders and miracles,
but we we if we don't do something, it's in both.
This is why this demonic strategy of the separation of
church and state is exactly opposite of the way the
founding Fathers meant for it to be. Not that the
church was written, of course, church and state is nowhere
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in the Constitution, but the whole process, the idea of
church and state was the church is to affect the state.
The state is to never affect the church. And that
was the purpose that this nation was. Remember, we came
here because of religious freedom, and here this is the
very thing that we're fighting for, is religious freedom. So
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the flashpoint of revival is there's the whole name. Flashpoint
comes because there's a moment in time and actually there's
one definition that talks about culture where there's an explosion,
a spontaneous outburst that changes the course of culture. And
that's where the name came from. And so understanding, we
want revival. We're believers. We want to see God moved,
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we want to open it up. But we really want,
we really want we just.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Want a great meeting.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
We want the reformation that comes that changes America like
it did in Wales in nineteen oh six.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You know where Wales was corrupt.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
They were in the middle of election, economy was horrible
and the crime was at an all time high. They
have a great outpouring of God with Evan Roberts, and
look what happens. Corruption goes away. They totally walked away
from their election. They disbanded the election because nobody cared.
And suddenly they're going to church all the time, the
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uh and crime. The police were going to the event
because the church meetings, because there was no crime, because
everybody was so focused on that happened the heart change,
you know, and there's a whole lot of stories about that.
But Evan Roberts. But let's go back a little bit
in the revival side with Evan Roberts. Because he was
twenty six years old, young man and his own father
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tried to get him committed to him as what we
would call an insane asylum. I'm sure there's a nicer word,
but you know what I'm saying. Because he was walking
around town muttering all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That was his dad. Now this is Evan Roberts.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Father tried tried to get him committed because he thought
he was going mad because he was walking around town praying.
He was praying, and so what's the if you want
to look at the prayer that Evan Roberts prayed at
the chapel was bend me Lord, Wow, that's it. That's it,
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and then this great revival breaks out and it's staggering
what God did. So we have to understand that look
at what one man did, committed to God, and a
group of people that wanted to see God move, they didn't.
They didn't. It wasn't a great marketing plan. It wasn't
all of these things that we try to do now.
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And I'm not against marketing. I'm not against advertising, but
the point is that cannot be your focus. The focus
cannot be that. It has to be who God is.
So that when when that happened, Pastor Hanking Brenda, what
happens the whole nation changed.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
At the same time Azusa Street is gone on.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Here there were actually cable that were going back and forth,
you know, communications going back and forth on what was
going on in Zeusa Street and what was going on
in Wales because they were comparing what God was doing.
Now we know from there it even went all the
way to South Africa with John G.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Lake.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
This blood in the world and it goes around the world.
So revival must affect culture, Revival must affect reformation, or
it was just a good meeting.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well, if that's what I like about Flashpoint very quickly
is you know when it started, we had to address
the cultural issues, the moral issues that were affecting politics,
and we kept the God factor. We brought God into
Flashpoint and it became a movement and we began to
discover this isn't just reform. What is that rebuilding, reshaping
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different things that you know need the God factor. But
really people start you know, getting saved at the meetings,
they were getting healed, they were getting delivered u. God
was coming into those meetings and telling us what was next,
and and uh, we sat back and realized this is
not revival coming. Revival is here God is in our
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midst and I think it's only begun and I think
it's going to continue to build. But I do want
you to tell people you mentioned about you have a
program Revival uh radioble to tell people a little bit
about before we go to a break where they can
download some of this that you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You can just go to the easiest way is Revival
Radio TV dot com.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Revival Radio TV dot com.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
And it's kind of a weird name because it was
meant to be a radio program because we found some
old recordings and so we were going to do this
on radio, and U and Kenneth Copelan goes, no, bless
God to do it on TV, you know, and so
we had to change the name.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
But everything is there. It's downloads.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Schools are using it, Public schools are using it, of
course Christian schools, schoolers. And because people aren't talking about
what really happened in history.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
That's amazing. And I think just hearing that when you
mentioned the police they didn't have any crime, it just
shows you that Revival and Reform is meant its design
to touch the culture. I think we've had it in
our minds a little bit that you know somehow that
I don't know. The ideology of the church being the
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church man, it's changed. It's that we have to be.
It's not just a select few running for office that
effect government. We saw with Flashpoint, everybody was involved. People
all got involved.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Could it be that God knows the most effective medium
to use now, which is television, which is events to
reach the masses quickly to cause revival right now?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, guys, we're going to pick right back up on
this topic, and of course we want to give ever
body an opportunity to be prayed for. At the end,
we're going to have Gene and Terry pray for you,
and we're going to believe God in your life that
God's going to use you as a catalyst in the
culture wherever you live, because we are going to see
revival in the earth. So stay tuned, stay connected. We're
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going to pray for you, believe God. We're going to
continue to talk with Jean and Terry Bailey about where
they see us going in this next great wave of revival.
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Speaker 1 (12:25):
But guys, let's pick back up.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We were talking before the break about Revival, and you
were talking about your book. You have two books today,
the Flashpoint of Revival and of course Killing America, and
let's just break it out. Let's talk about this amazing
content because I think it's showing us where God is
taking us in this next season.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Absolutely the you know, going back and look at it.
Just some of the chapter titles here, you know, the
chapter one was big screen, skinny jeans and fog machines.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Then we're talking about how the church has trade tech
for the anointing. Yeah, trade anoining for the tech. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
So being awakened, not woke to you're you are a
reformer transitional moments, because America has been in a transitional
moment and what we're going to do and what we're.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Going to see.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And I believe the body of Christ now, but after
this election, we are in a transitional moment.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
What are we going to do with the gift we've
been given, the freedom that we've been given. What are
we going to do with that?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Heroes arise, that's the church, that's you guys, and the
revelation of the remnant. We started to see this during
the COVID years and all that went on.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
But what we're beginning to.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
See is those that stand apart from conventional the old
religious carcass, the whited sepulcher.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
The scripture is talking about, who.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Is going to stand apart and go No, wait a minute,
that's not Yes, I love like Jesus loved, but I'm
not going to let you mow over me. And I'm
not going to trade my freedom for your religious jargon.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I can't tell you how many people I said
that I won't go, I won't talk long the about Well,
we just were not going to talk politics.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
We're going to talk about Jesus.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Like, well, then you're not talking Jesus if you're not
talking because Jesus was involved in politics. He was very
much in church and so it is the early church exactly.
So you know, people, we've we've become uh conduced, We've
we've embraced that's the right word. We've embraced what we
this religious idea of what it means to be a
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Christian instead of doing the Bible and being biblically based
in what it is. So this book is really about
and there's some stories in here, but this is there
three overline and it's on the back cover of what
you're supposed to do, mobilize, activate and deploy. The church
has been we have been in such a long mobilization phase,
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uh for for decades. But now it's time to activate
and deploy and get you out and to do what
you're you're called to do and see you in the
place where you are. Because when you do your job,
and you do your job and I don't try to
do your job, and I do what I'm called to do,
and we all do our callings, the body is in
is working together and that's when we see revival because
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I don't I don't need to be jealous of your calling.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I know I'm getting off on now something. This is
very good.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
But if I'm jealous of your calling not doing what
I'm doing, then there's a vacancy in the body that
I'm not feeling because I'm trying to be you or
I'm trying to be somebody I thought, or how many
people you've seen to want to be Billy Graham. You
know it's like, no, Billy was Billy. That's great, that
was his calling. You be you, and Terry we this
is this is the beginning of Flashpoint of Revival, and
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then Killing America took it to the next place.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yes, it did.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
You know one thing which I.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Couldn't put let me tell you this. I mean, I
loved that book.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I could not put that book down. Terry Well, you
know when you read it.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, we got some heavy hitting indoor seats of the
book and you can go through that. I think there's
like fourteen of them, one of which is Eric Trump
correct don don Jr. Okay, but are some of our
chapters are Killing America an opportunity to hope? And that's
what we've got right now, right that's how about the facade?
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And that's what drove us all bananas because they were
saying it was one way and we just knew that
it was a different way. You're still saying, we're still
seeing that where they're trying well, and you see that
everywhere where the media, the left wing media still wants
to rewrite what's really going on with their words? Okay,
And what I find interesting, we're talking about Revival radio
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history TV show and Flashpoint of Revival show. At first
he was going like, I don't really get this, Terry.
I love revival. I've studied revival history for my whole life,
and and I don't know why I got this Flashpoint show.
And I said, don't you see what God's doing. God
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is taking and put a love of revival in you,
plus his media expertise, and he's taking the past into
the now using the best form of reaching people as
quickly as possible, which is the media. So it was
just like it was like an oh my gosh, that's
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what God's doing. So God is strategic in everything he does,
and he's strategic and pulling you into the picture to
the flash you know, the flashpoint army. We talk about
a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So we have an.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Opportunity to hope, we have a facade, and then there's
drawing the line and We've talked about that on this
show too. Is there's a place where you get and
I think, especially Pastor Hank in Brenda, your heart for
the children a lot. I think they really cross the line.
Oh yeah, they cross the line when they start.
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Toss is the heart of father, God.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
And fathers everywhere. And we saw you've had jon Amachuku here, okay,
where he got in front of school boards and he
read the filth that they're putting and making available to
our kids.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Most people Terry didn't even know were slimy put in
those libraries by corrupt school board officials.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
You know, we are fighting to keep them.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
In there, which.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Beyond next pornography, yes, pornography. And you know, I had
a little bit of daycare background, and it doesn't make sense.
We have CPS that wants to breathe down parents' lives
and tell them how to raise their kids or take
them from people's lives. But then we've got the open borders, okay,
and the effects of the open borders of trafficking kids
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and sexually exploiting them, you know, and some you know,
President Trump has said, are they murdered?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Are they gone forever? Well, it's not just pornography. It's
it's a form of pedophilia that reaches at a level
of abuse and exploiting.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Chill that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'm glad that it's being addressed.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
So we talk about current issues and does flashpoint through
a biblical lens?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (19:10):
And so Jing liked the title and came up with
the name killing America because if we don't stand up
as Christians, if we don't take our rightful places, if
there's we were talking about jealousy and the body, you know,
everybody trying to be the mouth instead of some people
are ours and you know we're all different body parts.
If we don't do our jobs, then that's what we're
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going to see in America. We are going to see
our opportunity of hope and we're going to see our
nation changed back in a blink of an eye to
what there. We now know what their agenda is to
kill America. Yes, so let freedom ring weaponize your wounds.
You know, if you've been attacked during this time and
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there's been people in your love life, whether it's been
through COVID, whether it's been through the drugs across the border,
whether it's been through transitioning, take whatever the devil tried
to kill you with, destroy your life, and you weaponize
your wounds that he attacked you with and you use
it and you use it against him. State of confusion,
fortifying the walls, gates and gatekeepers, and we are called
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to occupy.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So let me talk about this gates and gatekeepers, because
you know Lance, we're always I'm giving Lance a hard
time about mountains, the Seven Mountains. But something he said
is we need to take the mountains, but we need
to take the gates at the top.
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Of the mountain. That needs to be a believer.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So here we are faced with this time and history
in America's history where we need to push harder.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
We need to push in.
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The publishing realm and the children and children's animation like
you're doing. We need to take that, not just be
in that mountain. We need to take control of that mountain.
And that's why we must understand our role as believers.
And people want to give you a hard time. I
get misquoted all the time in the media and all
the stuff is talking about well, they're dominionist, and they
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want like, yeah, pretty much. I believe we should be
in charge. I believe that's the way it should be.
But we have to understand. This is all part back
to something we talked.
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About on the other program.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
If we're going to occupy, we need to occupy, and
we've got to get aggressive and what it means.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
And that's what these two books really are.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And I recommend that you get these books. You're not
gonna be able to put him down. But I was
just thinking here very quickly, from the beginning of creation
that you read in Genesis, God was countering Jesus comes
in the earth, and everything he did he countered. When
men was sick, he countered it with healing, right when
the Pharisees were trying to get him ensnared by their
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lies and their laws, he countered it. And then he
told his disciples to do the same thing. And lastly,
I'm just going to say this very quickly. The Book
of Acts the modern Church, the Acts of the Holy Spirit.
Know it's what the Holy Spirit was doing. He was
acting out through obedient vessel who would engage themselves in
the issues of the day, including politics, religion. And there
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were three expressions you see Jerusalem expression where they were
in the church, Holy Spirit comes. That's the problem most
people want Revival, they only stay in the church, but
then it branched out to Antioch, where they're first called
Christians discipleship. That's getting involved in every aspect of the
Seven Mountains. But then it moved over into Ephesus, which
is a confrontation and a countering that affects not only
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your life, but things beyond cities, nations, neighborhoods.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
You know so well.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And I'll just say this. I like to ask people
who think that the church shouldn't be involved in political, culture, government,
all of those things. What's our endgame then to just
let evil continue to have its path and the only
outreach the church does is you know, backpack drives and
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soup lines and then that people will come in to
the church house. I think it's so much more than that.
And you know, I've always said it this way. If
the church doesn't want to be involved politically, if it
doesn't want to be involved in shifting culture, evil's going
to take its place to where look at some nations
that they can't have a pulpit to preach in, they
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go underground and so and people say, yeah, but you know,
the underground church, it has succeeded.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
God still saw millions.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Said, well, I'd like to push back on that a
little bit, because the Bible says that after Saul the Apostle,
Paul got saved in Acts nine thirty one, it says
at the time of his salvation, the churches then had
rest and they were multiplying. So multiplication is better when
there is political liberty for us to preach the gospel. So, guys,
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we just have a couple minutes left. I want you
to pray for people, because there's people that need that
boldness still. There's people that their minds are changing and
shifting and all the work that we've all been doing.
Let's stretch our hands to the camera. Let's a minister
to people. As you feel love.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Father, we thank you, Lord, We thank you that we
do have the mind of Christ. I thank you Lord
that you open the eyes of every believer. I thank
you Lord that they study out the word government in
the Bible. And this is not a political issue, this
is a moral issue. Yes, I thank you Father, that
you give them a holy boldness that they've never known before.
I thank you Lord that they desire to be in
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your presence, because where there is your presence is there
is direction. There is clear mind, there is strength, and
there is wisdom. I thank you Lord that they walk
in all of those things in increasing fashion. And the
more that they hang out with the father, son and
holy Ghost, I thank you Lord that they become more
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evidently on fire for you and affecting just by them
simply walking into the room. Lord, we have a hunger
for you. They have a hunger for you. Meet them, Lord,
and guide them and direct them, and let them be
so quick to hear your voice and obey in Jesus
naming it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And I speak to the fathers that are watching, and
the fathers, even if they don't have children, that they
step into their roles. If fathers in this special in
this generation that is crucial to America. Amen, the mothers
and the fathers there are to arise, that we stand
up and take control and take the understanding of our
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responsibility for the children, that we do not abdicate our
authority any longer, or our positional authority that we've been given.
That we step into that place what we're called to be,
that we walk in boldness, not in arrogance, but in boldness.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Oh yes, And I thank you Father for it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
The people receive it and walk in it in Jesus
Jesus name.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well, they're going to put the two books by the
Baileys up on the screen. Pastor Jine and Terry tell
people how to get a hold of that, and your
website give them that information.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Sure, you can track everything that we're doing, whether you
want to or not, at gen Bailey dot com.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
That's our home website.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Everything is there, and I would encourage people to sign
up for the Insider Report. That's where we tell you
things that we're doing, some of the stuff with Flashpoint.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yes, but either you know, we do so much.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
More on social media social media. I'm at Gene Bailey
Official on Instagram. She's at Terry.
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