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Speaker 1 (00:00):
God's trying to tell us that he's getting involved. So
he's giving us signs. Your servitis in.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And it comes into the houses under righteousness, hands the righteous.
We're called by God to stand him in the authority
of the name of Jesus and the devil house.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hello, and welcome to new level. We're hanking Branda Kooneman,
and God is on your side. In fact, he's fighting
for you. We're so thrilled that you joined us because.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Lord is in the fight. That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We are in the time when God is fighting for us. Well,
we have some very special guests that's going to talk
about some of the things that the Lord is doing
in this day and what our role is to.
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Fight alongside with God.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, that's welcome our great friends Jean and Terry Bailey.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You guys are no strangers, right, Oh no, this is
our second home. Yeah, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So Britta, let's ask them some questions because I want
to get into as much as we can.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, thank you again, guys for being on the broadcast today.
But we're going to let you take it away. We
want to talk a little bit about You have an
amazing book out called Flashpoint of revival, And of course, Jean,
people know you from Flashpoint. And by the way, what
a blessing that has been around the world continues to be.
It's just been a source of hope. It's been it's
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brought just a change to our thinking regarding culture, evangelism,
our role as the body of Christ. But I do
hear you talk a lot about revival. This has been
your lifeblood. You've studied the history of revival, revival and
of course I know you share this in the book.
But where are we at right now regarding revival?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Where has.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm just going to turn you loose to discuss what
is in your spirit regarding the church and where we're
going with that.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, I think we're in the middle of revival.
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But we didn't think it would look like this, and
we thought it would be just a wonderful We'd walk
in and there be signs and wonders and everywhere, And
there are signs and wonders, and it's amazing. In a
time where we have such great technology and the internet
and video everywhere, we still don't see there are miracles happening,
but they don't get shared a lot. That's true because
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people are scared. People don't want to, you know, push
the envelope, but listen, we are in. The reason we
wrote the book Flashpoint of Revival was this, I have
a program, another television show that not everybody realizes. It's
Revival Radio TV and where that's been going. We have
hundreds of hours of shows about the history of Revival
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and I really thought, Hank and Brenda, that's what we
would be we would be doing, you know. I My
goal was to have a tent somewhere and let's go
see God move. And I still love being in the tent.
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So that's why we always gravitate towards the tent.
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But the understanding when Flashpoint came around and suddenly you're
looking at politics and culture. I had a lot of
minister friends come and say, well, I guess you're you know,
you're kind of doing this politics thing. You're not really
you know, you're not going down that revival path. And
I mean that's almost a quote, and I'm like, no,
they're the same thing. We just never looked at it
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that way. We have to change the way we see
what's going on in America because if we don't get
this right.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
When we started in twenty twenty.
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The point was, if we don't get America right, you
can forget your five oh one c.
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Three, You can forget being the freedom of religion in America.
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It must be we must be involved in every aspect
because we do want to win the loss. We do
want to see signe wonders and miracles. But we we
if we don't do something, it's in both.
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This is why this.
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Demonic strategy of the separation of church and state is
exactly opposite of the way the found Fathers meant for
it to be.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Not that the church there was written. Of course, church and.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
State is nowhere in the Constitution, but the whole process,
the idea of church and state was the church is
to affect the state.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The state is to never affect the church. And that
was the purpose that this nation was.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Remember, we came here because of religious freedom, and here
this is the very thing that we're fighting for, is
religious freedom. So the flashpoint of revival is there's the
whole name. Flashpoint comes because there's a moment in time
and actually there's one definition that talks about culture where
there's an explosion, a spontaneous outburst that changes the course
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of culture and that's where the name came from. And
so understanding, we want revival. We're believers. We want to
see God moved, we want to open it up. But
we really want, we really want We just want a
great meeting. We want the reformation that comes that.
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Changes America like it did in Wales in nineteen oh six.
You know where Wales was corrupt.
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They were in the middle of election, economy was horrible
and the crime was at an all time high. They
have a great outpouring of God with Evan Roberts, and
look what happens. Corruption goes away. They totally walked away
from their election. They disbanded the election because nobody cared.
And suddenly they're going to church all the time, the
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uh and crime. The police were going to the event
because the church meetings, because there was no crime, because
everybody was so focused on that happened the heart change,
you know, and there's a whole lot of stories about that.
But Evan Roberts. But let's go back a little bit
in the revival side with Evan Roberts. Because he was
twenty six years old, young man, and his own father
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tried to get him committed to him as what we
would call an insane asylum. I'm sure there's a nicer word,
but you know what I'm saying. Because he was walking
around town muttering all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That was his dad. Now this is Evan Roberts.
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Father tried to get him committed because he thought he
was going mad because he was walking around town praying.
He was praying, and so what's the if you want
to look at the prayer that Evan Roberts prayed at
the chapel was bend me Lord, Wow, that's it. That's it,
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and then this great revival breaks out, and it's staggering
what God did. So we have to understand that look
at what one man did, committed to God, and a
group of people that wanted to see God move, they didn't.
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They didn't.
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It wasn't a great marketing plan. It wasn't all of
these things that we try to do now. And I'm
not against marketing. I'm not against advertising, but the point
is that cannot be your focus. The focus cannot be that.
It has to be who God is. So that when
when that happened Pastor Hanking Brenda, what happens the whole
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nation changed at the same time. Azusa Street is one
on here there was There were actually cable that were
going back and forth, you know, communications going back and
forth on what was going on in Zeusa Street and
what was going on in Wales, because they were comparing.
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What God was doing. Now we know from there it
even went all the way to South Africa with John G.
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Lake.
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This blood on the world and it goes around the world.
So revival must affect culture, Revival must affect reformation, or
it was just a good meeting.
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That's right.
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Well, if that's what I like about Flashpoint very quickly
is you know, when it started, we had to address
the cultural issues, the moral issues that were affecting politics, and.
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We kept the God factor.
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We brought God into Flashpoint and it became a movement
and we began to discover this isn't just reform. What
is that rebuilding, reshaping different things that you know need
the God factor. But really people start you know, getting
saved at the meetings, They were getting healed, they were
getting delivered u. God was coming into those meetings and
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telling us what was next, and and uh we we
sat back and realized this is not revival coming. Revival
is here. God is in our mits. And I think
it's only begun, and I think it's going to continue
to build. But I do want you to tell people
you mentioned about you have a program Revival UH radio,
to tell people a little bit about before we go
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to a break where they can download some of this
that you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You can just go to the easiest way is Revival
Radio TV dot com. Revival Radio TV dot com. And
it's kind of a weird name because it was meant
to be a radio program because we found some old
recordings and so we were going to do this on
radio and Kenneth Copelan goes, no, bless God to do
it on TV, you know, and so we had to
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change the name.
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But everything is there. It's downloads.
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Schools are using it, Public schools are using it, of
course Christian schools, schoolers. And because people aren't talking about
what really happened in history.
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That's amazing. And I think just hearing that when you
mentioned the police they didn't have any crime, it just
shows you that Revival and Reform is meant its design
to touch the culture. I think we've had it in
our minds a little bit that you know somehow that
I don't know the ideology of the church being the church.
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Man.
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It's changed.
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It's that we have to be.
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It's not just a select few running for office that
effect government. We saw with Flashpoint, everybody was involved. People
all got involved.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Could it be that God knows the most effective medium
to use now, which is television, which is events to
reach the masses quickly to cause revival right now?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, guys, we're going to pick right back up on
this topic, and of course we want to give a
an opportunity to be prayed for. At the end, We're
going to have Gene and Terry pray for you, and
we're going to believe God in your life that God's
going to use you as a catalyst in the culture
wherever you live, because we are going to see revival
in the earth. So stay tuned, stay connected. We're going
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to pray for you, believe God. We're going to continue
to talk with Jeane and Terry Bailey about where they
see us going in this next great wave of revival.
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But guys, let's pick back up. We were talking before
the break about Revival and you were talking about your book.
Have two books today, the Flashpoint of Revival and of
course Killing America, And let's just break it out. Let's
talk about this amazing content because I think it's showing
us where God is taking.
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Us in this next season.
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Absolutely the you know, going back and look at it,
just some of the chapter titles here, you know, the
chapter one was big screen, skinny jeans and fog machines.
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Then we're talking.
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About how the Church has tray did tech for the anointing,
trade anoining for the tech. You know, so being awakened,
not woke to you are a reformer transitional moments, because
America has been in a transitional moment. What we're going
to do and what we're going to see, and I
believe the body of Christ now. But after this election,
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we are in a transitional moment. What are we going
to do with the gift we've been given, the freedom
that we've been given.
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What are we going to do with that? Heroes arise,
that's the church, that's you guys.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And the revelation of the Remnant. We started to see
this during the COVID years and all that went on.
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But what we're beginning to see is those that stand
apart from.
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Conventional the old religious carcass, the whited sepulcher, the scripture
talking about who was going to stand apart and go No,
wait a minute, that's not yes. I love like Jesus loved,
but I'm not going to let you mow over me.
And I'm not going to trade my freedom for your
religious jargon, you know. And I can't tell you how
many people I said that I won't go, I won't
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talk along the about Well, we just were not going
to talk politics.
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We're going to talk about Jesus.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm like, well, then you're not talking Jesus if you're
not talking Because Jesus was involved in politics, he was
very much in church, and so it is the early
church exactly. So you know, people, we've we've become uh conduced,
We've we've embraced that's the right word.
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We've embraced what we this religious idea of.
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What it means to be a Christian instead of doing
the Bible and being biblically based and what it is.
So this book is really about and there's some stories
in here, but this is their three overline and it's
on the back cover of what you're supposed to do, mobilize, activate,
and deploy. The church has been we have been in
such a long mobilization phase, uh for for decades.
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But now it's time to activate and deploy and get you.
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Out and to do what you're you're called to do
and see you in the place where you are. Because
when you do your job, and you do your job
and I don't try to do your job, and I
do what I'm called to do, and we all do
our callings, the body is in is working together, and
that's when we see revival. Because I don't I don't
need to be jealous of your calling. I know I'm
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getting off on now something this is very good. But
if I'm jealous of your calling not doing what I'm doing.
Then there's a vacancy in the body that I'm not
feeling because I'm trying to be you or I'm trying
to be somebody I thought, or how many people you've
seen to want to be Billy Graham. You know it's like, no,
Billy was Billy. That's great, that was his calling. You
be you, and Terry we this is this is the
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beginning of flashpoint of Revival, and then Killing America took
to the next place.
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Yes, it did you know one thing which I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Put Let me tell you this. I mean, I loved
that book.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I could not put that book down.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Terry, Well, you know we've got when you read it.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, we got some heavy hitting indoor seats of the
book and you can go through that. I think there's
like fourteen of them, one of which is Eric Trump
correct Don Don Junior. Okay, but are some of our
chapters are Killing America an opportunity to hope? And that's
what we've got right now, right that's how about the facade?
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And that's what drove us all bananas because they were
saying it was one way and we just knew that
it was a different way. And still saying we're still
seeing that where they're trying well, and you see that
everywhere where the media, the left wing media still wants
to rewrite what's really going on with their words. Okay,
And what I find interesting, we're talking about Revival radio
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history TV show and Flashpoint of Revival show. At first
he was going like, I don't really get this, Terry.
I love revival. I've studied revival history for my whole life,
and and I don't know why I got this Flashpoint show.
And I said, don't you see what God's doing. God
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is taking and put a love of revival in you,
plus his media expertise, and he's taking the past into
the now using the best form of reaching people as
quickly as possible, which is the media. So it was
just like it was like an oh my gosh, that's
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what God's doing. So God is strategic in everything he does,
and he's strategic and pulling you into the picture to
the flash you know, the flashpoint Army. We talk about
a lot. So we have an opportunity to hope, we
have a facade. And then there's drawing the line and
we've talked about that on this show too. Is there's
a place where you get and I think especially Pastor
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hank In Brenda your heart for the children a lot.
I think they really cross the line. Oh yeah, they
cross the line when they start toss is the heart
of father, God and fathers everywhere. And we saw you've
had jon Amachuku here, okay, where he got in front
of school boards and he read the filth that they're
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putting and making available to our kids.
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Most people terry didn't even know were slimy put in
those libraries by corrupt school board officials.
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You know, we are fighting to keep them.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
In there, which is.
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Beyond next pornography, Yes, pornography. And you know, I had
a little bit of daycare background, and it doesn't make sense.
We have CPS that wants to breathe down parents' lives
and tell them how to raise their kids or take
them from people's lives. But then we've got the open borders, okay,
and the effects of the open borders of trafficking kids
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and sexually exploiting them, you know, and some you know,
President Trump has said, are they murdered? Are they gone forever?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, it's not just pornography, it's it's a form of
pedophilia that reaches at a level of abuse and exploiting
children that I'm glad that it's being addressed.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
So we talk about current issues and does flashpoint through
a biblical lens?
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Okay?
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And so Jing liked the title and came up with
the name killing America because if we don't stand up
as Christians, if we don't take our rightful places, if
there's we were talking about jealousy and the body you know,
everybody trying to be the mouth instead of some people
are ours and you know we're all different body parts.
If we don't do our jobs, then that's what we're
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going to see in America. We are going to see
our opportunity of hope, and we're going to see our
nation changed back in a blink of an eye to
what there We now know what their agenda is to
kill America. Yes, so let freedom bring. Weaponize your wounds.
You know, if you've been attacked during this time, and
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there's been people in your love life, whether it's been
through COVID, whether it's been through the drugs across the border,
whether it's been through transition, take whatever the devil tried
to kill you with. Destroy your life, and you weaponize
your wounds that he attacked you with, and you use
it and you use it against him. State of confusion,
fortifying the walls, gates and gatekeepers, and we are called
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to occupy.
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So let me talk about this gates and gatekeepers, because
you know, Lance, we're always I'm giving lands a hard
time about mountains, the Seven Mountains. But something he said
is we need to take the mountains, but we need
to take the gates at the top of the mountain.
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That needs to be a believer.
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So here we are faced with this time and history
in America's history where we need to push harder. We
need to push in the publishing realm and the children
and children's animation like you're doing. We need to take that,
not just be in that mountain. We need to take
control of that mountain. And that's why we must understand
our role as believers. And people want to give you
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a hard time. I get misquoted all the time in
the media and all the stuff talking about well they're dominionist,
and they went like, yeah, pretty much.
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I believe we should be in charge. I believe that's
the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But we have to understand this is all part back
to something we talked about on the other program. If
we're going to occupy, we need to occupy, and we've
got to get aggressive in what it means.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And that's what these two books really are. And I
recommend that you get these books.
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You're not gonna be able to put him down. But
I was just thinking here very quickly, from the beginning
of creation that you read in Genesis, God was countering
Jesus comes in the earth, and everything he did he countered.
When men was sick, he countered it with healing, right
when the Pharisees were trying to get him ensnared by
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their lies and their laws.
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He countered it.
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And then he told his disciples to do the same thing.
And lastly, I'm just going to say this very quickly.
The Book of Acts the modern Church, the acts of
the Holy Spirit. Know, it's what the Holy Spirit was doing.
He was acting out through obedient vessel who would engage
themselves in the issues of the day, including politics, religion.
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And there were three expressions. You see Jerusalem expression where
they were in the church, holy Spirit comes.
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That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Most people want revival.
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They only stay in the church.
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But then it branched out to Antioch, where they're first
called Christians discipleship, that's getting involved in every aspect of
the Seven mountains. But then it moved over into Ephesus,
which is a confrontation and a countering that affects not
only your life, but things beyond cities, nations, neighborhoods.
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You know so well, And I'll just say this, I
like to ask people who think that the church shouldn't
be involved in political, culture, government, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
What's our endgame?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Then to just let evil continue to have its path
And the only outreach the church does is you know,
backpack drives and soup wines and then that people will
come in to the church house. I think it's so
much more than that. And you know, I've always said
it this way. If the church doesn't want to be
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involved politically, if it doesn't want to be involved in
shifting culture, evil's going to take its place to where
look at some nations that they can't have a pulpit
to preach in, they go underground and so and people say, yeah,
but you know, the underground church, it has succeeded.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
God still saw millions.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Said well, I'd like to push back on that a
little bit because the Bible says that after Saul the Apostle,
Paul got saved. In Acts nine thirty one, it says
at the time of his salvation, the churches then had
rest and they were multiplied. So multiplication is better when
there is political liberty for us to preach the gospel. So, guys,
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we just have a couple minutes left. I want you
to pray for people, because there's people that need that
boldness still. There's people that their minds are changing and
shifting and all the work that we've all been doing.
Let's stretch our hands to the camera. Let's ad minister
to people as you feel love.
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Father, we thank you Lord, We thank you that we
do have the mind of Christ. I thank you Lord
that you open the eyes of every believer. I thank
you Lord that they study out the word government in
the Bible. And this is not a political issue, this
is a moral issue. Yes, I thank you Father, that
you give them a holy boldness that they've never known before.
I thank you Lord that they desire to be in
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your presence, because where your presence is, there is direction,
there is clear mind, there is strength, and there is wisdom.
I thank you Lord that they walk in all of
those things in increasing fashion. And the more that they
hang out with the father, son and Holy Ghost, I
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thank you Lord that they become more evidently on fire
for you and affecting just by them simply walking into
the room. Lord, we have a hunger for you. They
have a hunger for you. Meet them, Lord, and guide
them and direct them, and let them be so quick
to hear your voice and obey in Jesus naming it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And I speak to the fathers that are watching, and
the fathers, even if they don't have children, that they
step into their roles. If fathers in this special in
this generation that is crucial to America, the mothers and
the fathers there are to arise that we stand up
and take control and take the understanding of our responsibility
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for the children, that we do not abdicate our authority
any longer, or our positional authority that we've been given.
That we step into that place what we're called to be,
that we walk in boldness, not in arrogance, but in boldness.
Oh yes, and I thank you Father for it. The
people receive it and walk in it. In Jesus, Jesus names.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, they're going to put the two books by the
Baileys up on the screen pastor Jine and Terry tell
people how to get a hold of that and your
website give them that information.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Sure you can track everything that we're doing, whether you
want to or not, at gen Bailey dot com.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's our home website.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Everything is there, and I would encourage people to sign
up for the Insider Report. That's where we tell you
things that we're doing, some of the stuff with Flashpoint, Yes,
but either you know, we do so much more on
social media social media. I'm at Gene Bailey Official on Instagram.
She's at Terry Bailey.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Terry Lynn Bailey Mama Bears.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
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God's trying to tell us that he's getting involved. So
he's giving us signs. Your servitis in.
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And it comes into the houses under righteousness, hands the righteous.
We're called by God to stand him in the authority
of the name of Jesus and the devil house.
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and God is on your side. In fact, he's fighting
for you. We're so thrilled that you joined us because.
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The Lord is in the fight. That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We are in the time when God is fighting for us. Well,
we have some very special guests that's going to talk
about some of the things that the Lord is doing
in this day and what our role is to.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Fight alongside with God.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, that's welcome our great friends Jean and Terry Bailey.
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You guys are no strangers, right, Oh no, this is
our second home. Yeah, thank you for being here.
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So Britta, let's ask them some questions because I want
to get into as much as we can.
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Well, thank you again, guys for being on the broadcast today.
But we're going to let you take it away. We
want to talk a little bit about You have an
amazing book out called Flashpoint of revival, And of course, Jean,
people know you from Flashpoint. And by the way, what
a blessing that has been around the world continues to be.
It's just been a source of hope. It's been it's
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brought just a change to our thinking regarding culture, evangelism,
our role as the body of Christ. But I do
hear you talk a lot about revival. This has been
your lifeblood. You've studied the history of revival, revival and
of course I know you share this in the book.
But where are we at right now regarding revival?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Where has.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm just going to turn you loose to discuss what
is in your spirit regarding the church and where we're
going with that.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, I think we're in the middle of revival.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But we didn't think it would look like this, and
we thought it would be just a wonderful We'd walk
in and there be signs and wonders and everywhere, And
there are signs and wonders, and it's amazing. In a
time where we have such great technology and the internet
and video everywhere, we still don't see there are miracles happening,
but they don't get shared a lot. That's true because
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people are scared. People don't want to, you know, push
the envelope, but listen, we are in. The reason we
wrote the book Flashpoint of Revival was this, I have
a program, another television show that not everybody realizes. It's
Revival Radio TV and where that's been going. We have
hundreds of hours of shows about the history of Revival
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and I really thought, Hank and Brenda, that's what we
would be we would be doing, you know. I My
goal was to have a tent somewhere and let's go
see God move. And I still love being in the tent.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So that's why we always gravitate towards the tent.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But the understanding when Flashpoint came around and suddenly you're
looking at politics and culture. I had a lot of
minister friends come and say, well, I guess you're you know,
you're kind of doing this politics thing. You're not really
you know, you're not going down that revival path. And
I mean that's almost a quote, and I'm like, no,
they're the same thing. We just never looked at it
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that way. We have to change the way we see
what's going on in America because if we don't get
this right.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
When we started in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
The point was, if we don't get America right, you
can forget your five oh one c.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Three, You can forget being the freedom of religion in America.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
It must be we must be involved in every aspect
because we do want to win the loss. We do
want to see signe wonders and miracles. But we we
if we don't do something, it's in both.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
This is why this.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Demonic strategy of the separation of church and state is
exactly opposite of the way the found Fathers meant for
it to be.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Not that the church there was written. Of course, church and.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
State is nowhere in the Constitution, but the whole process,
the idea of church and state was the church is
to affect the state.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The state is to never affect the church. And that
was the purpose that this nation was.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Remember, we came here because of religious freedom, and here
this is the very thing that we're fighting for, is
religious freedom. So the flashpoint of revival is there's the
whole name. Flashpoint comes because there's a moment in time
and actually there's one definition that talks about culture where
there's an explosion, a spontaneous outburst that changes the course
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of culture and that's where the name came from. And
so understanding, we want revival. We're believers. We want to
see God moved, we want to open it up. But
we really want, we really want We just want a
great meeting. We want the reformation that comes that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Changes America like it did in Wales in nineteen oh six.
You know where Wales was corrupt.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
They were in the middle of election, economy was horrible
and the crime was at an all time high. They
have a great outpouring of God with Evan Roberts, and
look what happens. Corruption goes away. They totally walked away
from their election. They disbanded the election because nobody cared.
And suddenly they're going to church all the time, the
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uh and crime. The police were going to the event
because the church meetings, because there was no crime, because
everybody was so focused on that happened the heart change,
you know, and there's a whole lot of stories about that.
But Evan Roberts. But let's go back a little bit
in the revival side with Evan Roberts. Because he was
twenty six years old, young man, and his own father
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tried to get him committed to him as what we
would call an insane asylum. I'm sure there's a nicer word,
but you know what I'm saying. Because he was walking
around town muttering all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That was his dad. Now this is Evan Roberts.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Father tried to get him committed because he thought he
was going mad because he was walking around town praying.
He was praying, and so what's the if you want
to look at the prayer that Evan Roberts prayed at
the chapel was bend me Lord, Wow, that's it. That's it,
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and then this great revival breaks out, and it's staggering
what God did. So we have to understand that look
at what one man did, committed to God, and a
group of people that wanted to see God move, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
They didn't.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It wasn't a great marketing plan. It wasn't all of
these things that we try to do now. And I'm
not against marketing. I'm not against advertising, but the point
is that cannot be your focus. The focus cannot be that.
It has to be who God is. So that when
when that happened Pastor Hanking Brenda, what happens the whole
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nation changed at the same time. Azusa Street is one
on here there was There were actually cable that were
going back and forth, you know, communications going back and
forth on what was going on in Zeusa Street and
what was going on in Wales, because they were comparing.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What God was doing. Now we know from there it
even went all the way to South Africa with John G.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Lake.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
This blood on the world and it goes around the world.
So revival must affect culture, Revival must affect reformation, or
it was just a good meeting.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well, if that's what I like about Flashpoint very quickly
is you know, when it started, we had to address
the cultural issues, the moral issues that were affecting politics, and.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
We kept the God factor.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We brought God into Flashpoint and it became a movement
and we began to discover this isn't just reform. What
is that rebuilding, reshaping different things that you know need
the God factor. But really people start you know, getting
saved at the meetings, They were getting healed, they were
getting delivered u. God was coming into those meetings and
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telling us what was next, and and uh we we
sat back and realized this is not revival coming. Revival
is here. God is in our mits. And I think
it's only begun, and I think it's going to continue
to build. But I do want you to tell people
you mentioned about you have a program Revival UH radio,
to tell people a little bit about before we go
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to a break where they can download some of this
that you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You can just go to the easiest way is Revival
Radio TV dot com. Revival Radio TV dot com. And
it's kind of a weird name because it was meant
to be a radio program because we found some old
recordings and so we were going to do this on
radio and Kenneth Copelan goes, no, bless God to do
it on TV, you know, and so we had to
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change the name.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But everything is there. It's downloads.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Schools are using it, Public schools are using it, of
course Christian schools, schoolers. And because people aren't talking about
what really happened in history.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's amazing. And I think just hearing that when you
mentioned the police they didn't have any crime, it just
shows you that Revival and Reform is meant its design
to touch the culture. I think we've had it in
our minds a little bit that you know somehow that
I don't know the ideology of the church being the church.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's changed.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's that we have to be.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's not just a select few running for office that
effect government. We saw with Flashpoint, everybody was involved. People
all got involved.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Could it be that God knows the most effective medium
to use now, which is television, which is events to
reach the masses quickly to cause revival right now?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, guys, we're going to pick right back up on
this topic, and of course we want to give a
an opportunity to be prayed for. At the end, We're
going to have Gene and Terry pray for you, and
we're going to believe God in your life that God's
going to use you as a catalyst in the culture
wherever you live, because we are going to see revival
in the earth. So stay tuned, stay connected. We're going
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to pray for you, believe God. We're going to continue
to talk with Jeane and Terry Bailey about where they
see us going in this next great wave of revival.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
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But we want to make sure that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You get all the resources we're making available on the
broadcast day, and of course make sure you stay tuned
until the end because we are going to allow our
special guests Jeane and Terry Bailey to pray for you
and believe God for whatever needs that you have in
your life.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I want you to get ready for that today.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But guys, let's pick back up. We were talking before
the break about Revival and you were talking about your book.
Have two books today, the Flashpoint of Revival and of
course Killing America, And let's just break it out. Let's
talk about this amazing content because I think it's showing
us where God is taking.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Us in this next season.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Absolutely the you know, going back and look at it,
just some of the chapter titles here, you know, the
chapter one was big screen, skinny jeans and fog machines.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Then we're talking.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
About how the Church has tray did tech for the anointing,
trade anoining for the tech. You know, so being awakened,
not woke to you are a reformer transitional moments, because
America has been in a transitional moment. What we're going
to do and what we're going to see, and I
believe the body of Christ now. But after this election,
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we are in a transitional moment. What are we going
to do with the gift we've been given, the freedom
that we've been given.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What are we going to do with that? Heroes arise,
that's the church, that's you guys.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And the revelation of the Remnant. We started to see
this during the COVID years and all that went on.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But what we're beginning to see is those that stand
apart from.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Conventional the old religious carcass, the whited sepulcher, the scripture
talking about who was going to stand apart and go No,
wait a minute, that's not yes. I love like Jesus loved,
but I'm not going to let you mow over me.
And I'm not going to trade my freedom for your
religious jargon, you know. And I can't tell you how
many people I said that I won't go, I won't
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talk along the about Well, we just were not going
to talk politics.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
We're going to talk about Jesus.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm like, well, then you're not talking Jesus if you're
not talking Because Jesus was involved in politics, he was
very much in church, and so it is the early
church exactly. So you know, people, we've we've become uh conduced,
We've we've embraced that's the right word.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
We've embraced what we this religious idea of.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
What it means to be a Christian instead of doing
the Bible and being biblically based and what it is.
So this book is really about and there's some stories
in here, but this is their three overline and it's
on the back cover of what you're supposed to do, mobilize, activate,
and deploy. The church has been we have been in
such a long mobilization phase, uh for for decades.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But now it's time to activate and deploy and get you.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Out and to do what you're you're called to do
and see you in the place where you are. Because
when you do your job, and you do your job
and I don't try to do your job, and I
do what I'm called to do, and we all do
our callings, the body is in is working together, and
that's when we see revival. Because I don't I don't
need to be jealous of your calling. I know I'm
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getting off on now something this is very good. But
if I'm jealous of your calling not doing what I'm doing.
Then there's a vacancy in the body that I'm not
feeling because I'm trying to be you or I'm trying
to be somebody I thought, or how many people you've
seen to want to be Billy Graham. You know it's like, no,
Billy was Billy. That's great, that was his calling. You
be you, and Terry we this is this is the
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beginning of flashpoint of Revival, and then Killing America took
to the next place.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yes, it did you know one thing which I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Put Let me tell you this. I mean, I loved
that book.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I could not put that book down.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Terry, Well, you know we've got when you read it.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, we got some heavy hitting indoor seats of the
book and you can go through that. I think there's
like fourteen of them, one of which is Eric Trump
correct Don Don Junior. Okay, but are some of our
chapters are Killing America an opportunity to hope? And that's
what we've got right now, right that's how about the facade?
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And that's what drove us all bananas because they were
saying it was one way and we just knew that
it was a different way. And still saying we're still
seeing that where they're trying well, and you see that
everywhere where the media, the left wing media still wants
to rewrite what's really going on with their words. Okay,
And what I find interesting, we're talking about Revival radio
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history TV show and Flashpoint of Revival show. At first
he was going like, I don't really get this, Terry.
I love revival. I've studied revival history for my whole life,
and and I don't know why I got this Flashpoint show.
And I said, don't you see what God's doing. God
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is taking and put a love of revival in you,
plus his media expertise, and he's taking the past into
the now using the best form of reaching people as
quickly as possible, which is the media. So it was
just like it was like an oh my gosh, that's
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what God's doing. So God is strategic in everything he does,
and he's strategic and pulling you into the picture to
the flash you know, the flashpoint Army. We talk about
a lot. So we have an opportunity to hope, we
have a facade. And then there's drawing the line and
we've talked about that on this show too. Is there's
a place where you get and I think especially Pastor
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hank In Brenda your heart for the children a lot.
I think they really cross the line. Oh yeah, they
cross the line when they start toss is the heart
of father, God and fathers everywhere. And we saw you've
had jon Amachuku here, okay, where he got in front
of school boards and he read the filth that they're
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putting and making available to our kids.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Most people terry didn't even know were slimy put in
those libraries by corrupt school board officials.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know, we are fighting to keep them.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
In there, which is.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Beyond next pornography, Yes, pornography. And you know, I had
a little bit of daycare background, and it doesn't make sense.
We have CPS that wants to breathe down parents' lives
and tell them how to raise their kids or take
them from people's lives. But then we've got the open borders, okay,
and the effects of the open borders of trafficking kids
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and sexually exploiting them, you know, and some you know,
President Trump has said, are they murdered? Are they gone forever?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, it's not just pornography, it's it's a form of
pedophilia that reaches at a level of abuse and exploiting
children that I'm glad that it's being addressed.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
So we talk about current issues and does flashpoint through
a biblical lens?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
And so Jing liked the title and came up with
the name killing America because if we don't stand up
as Christians, if we don't take our rightful places, if
there's we were talking about jealousy and the body you know,
everybody trying to be the mouth instead of some people
are ours and you know we're all different body parts.
If we don't do our jobs, then that's what we're
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going to see in America. We are going to see
our opportunity of hope, and we're going to see our
nation changed back in a blink of an eye to
what there We now know what their agenda is to
kill America. Yes, so let freedom bring. Weaponize your wounds.
You know, if you've been attacked during this time, and
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there's been people in your love life, whether it's been
through COVID, whether it's been through the drugs across the border,
whether it's been through transition, take whatever the devil tried
to kill you with. Destroy your life, and you weaponize
your wounds that he attacked you with, and you use
it and you use it against him. State of confusion,
fortifying the walls, gates and gatekeepers, and we are called
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to occupy.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So let me talk about this gates and gatekeepers, because
you know, Lance, we're always I'm giving lands a hard
time about mountains, the Seven Mountains. But something he said
is we need to take the mountains, but we need
to take the gates at the top of the mountain.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
That needs to be a believer.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So here we are faced with this time and history
in America's history where we need to push harder. We
need to push in the publishing realm and the children
and children's animation like you're doing. We need to take that,
not just be in that mountain. We need to take
control of that mountain. And that's why we must understand
our role as believers. And people want to give you
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a hard time. I get misquoted all the time in
the media and all the stuff talking about well they're dominionist,
and they went like, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I believe we should be in charge. I believe that's
the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But we have to understand this is all part back
to something we talked about on the other program. If
we're going to occupy, we need to occupy, and we've
got to get aggressive in what it means.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And that's what these two books really are. And I
recommend that you get these books.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
You're not gonna be able to put him down. But
I was just thinking here very quickly, from the beginning
of creation that you read in Genesis, God was countering
Jesus comes in the earth, and everything he did he countered.
When men was sick, he countered it with healing, right
when the Pharisees were trying to get him ensnared by
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their lies and their laws.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
He countered it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And then he told his disciples to do the same thing.
And lastly, I'm just going to say this very quickly.
The Book of Acts the modern Church, the acts of
the Holy Spirit. Know, it's what the Holy Spirit was doing.
He was acting out through obedient vessel who would engage
themselves in the issues of the day, including politics, religion.
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And there were three expressions. You see Jerusalem expression where
they were in the church, holy Spirit comes.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Most people want revival.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They only stay in the church.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But then it branched out to Antioch, where they're first
called Christians discipleship, that's getting involved in every aspect of
the Seven mountains. But then it moved over into Ephesus,
which is a confrontation and a countering that affects not
only your life, but things beyond cities, nations, neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know so well, And I'll just say this, I
like to ask people who think that the church shouldn't
be involved in political, culture, government, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
What's our endgame?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Then to just let evil continue to have its path
And the only outreach the church does is you know,
backpack drives and soup wines and then that people will
come in to the church house. I think it's so
much more than that. And you know, I've always said
it this way. If the church doesn't want to be
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involved politically, if it doesn't want to be involved in
shifting culture, evil's going to take its place to where
look at some nations that they can't have a pulpit
to preach in, they go underground and so and people say, yeah,
but you know, the underground church, it has succeeded.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
God still saw millions.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Said well, I'd like to push back on that a
little bit because the Bible says that after Saul the Apostle,
Paul got saved. In Acts nine thirty one, it says
at the time of his salvation, the churches then had
rest and they were multiplied. So multiplication is better when
there is political liberty for us to preach the gospel. So, guys,
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we just have a couple minutes left. I want you
to pray for people, because there's people that need that
boldness still. There's people that their minds are changing and
shifting and all the work that we've all been doing.
Let's stretch our hands to the camera. Let's ad minister
to people as you feel love.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Father, we thank you Lord, We thank you that we
do have the mind of Christ. I thank you Lord
that you open the eyes of every believer. I thank
you Lord that they study out the word government in
the Bible. And this is not a political issue, this
is a moral issue. Yes, I thank you Father, that
you give them a holy boldness that they've never known before.
I thank you Lord that they desire to be in
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your presence, because where your presence is, there is direction,
there is clear mind, there is strength, and there is wisdom.
I thank you Lord that they walk in all of
those things in increasing fashion. And the more that they
hang out with the father, son and Holy Ghost, I
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thank you Lord that they become more evidently on fire
for you and affecting just by them simply walking into
the room. Lord, we have a hunger for you. They
have a hunger for you. Meet them, Lord, and guide
them and direct them, and let them be so quick
to hear your voice and obey in Jesus naming it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And I speak to the fathers that are watching, and
the fathers, even if they don't have children, that they
step into their roles. If fathers in this special in
this generation that is crucial to America, the mothers and
the fathers there are to arise that we stand up
and take control and take the understanding of our responsibility
(25:26):
for the children, that we do not abdicate our authority
any longer, or our positional authority that we've been given.
That we step into that place what we're called to be,
that we walk in boldness, not in arrogance, but in boldness.
Oh yes, and I thank you Father for it. The
people receive it and walk in it. In Jesus, Jesus names.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, they're going to put the two books by the
Baileys up on the screen pastor Jine and Terry tell
people how to get a hold of that and your
website give them that information.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Sure you can track everything that we're doing, whether you
want to or not, at gen Bailey dot com.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's our home website.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Everything is there, and I would encourage people to sign
up for the Insider Report. That's where we tell you
things that we're doing, some of the stuff with Flashpoint, Yes,
but either you know, we do so much more on
social media social media. I'm at Gene Bailey Official on Instagram.
She's at Terry Bailey.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Terry Lynn Bailey Mama Bears.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, and consider partnering with them and being a blessing
to them as they continue to bring revival and reform.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Amen, and that's that's the best way. And you get
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Speaker 3 (26:40):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Make sure you get out and partners. We want to
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